August 14, 2025 • 17 mins
Jaguars OC Grant Udinski and QB Trevor Lawrence speak with the media after practice ahead of the Preseason Week 2 matchup against the New Orleans Saints.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Do you feel about that? Scrim interesting? Just what you
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guys are have to accomplish.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
It's good work.
Speaker 3 (00:04):
Good to get the work in a lot to improve.
I think the guys know that. We know that, so
I'm excited to.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Dig into the tape and see what we can work on.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
How concerning would it be that, you know, just having
all the drops of the picks and d the disjointed
this like, how concerning would that be moving forward?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Or is this one from one piece of many things
that we're working on trying to improve, whether it's fundamentals, communication,
just simple execution, a place here and there, alignment, assignment,
all of those details are important. So we're trying to
improve everything, not just a drop here.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
There is the.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Offensive line still at work in progress. I mean you
got I think we used I think you used seven
different six different left tackles or right tackles in there.
Is it still piece mealing this thing together?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I don't know that I would frame it necessarily as
piece mealing.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I think one of the questions you guys asked last
week was about the flexibility the offensive line. I would
probably still look at it like that. We have had
some injuries, guys, go in and out, even temporary injuries
where guys miss a drive, and those have been opportunities
for other guys to step up and play different positions.
So you probably see out there today we have multiple
guys play on different sides, play guard, play tackle, inside outside,
different centers. So it's great that those guys have the
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ability to do that and we have the chance to
get that type of work.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
So is there a point, though, with the season three
weeks wa point where you want to get the five
solidified and let them work together.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Absolutely, I think so, But I think at the same
time you recognize that over the course of the year,
it's very rare nowadays for the five same starters to
play every single play for an entire season. So this
work to get guys working with each other that might
not always work together on week one or week two
is invaluable to have right now.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
How would you evaluate Beachiel Tutor and kind of how
he's come along in camp.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I think the growth has been encouraging, a testament to
his work, Coach Morten's work with him and really all
the running backs their ability to improve, whether it's in
the run game as runners, in the pass protection game,
or as pass catchers. The entire room, all those guys
have really embraced all fast to that position and what
we're asking them to do.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
So between him, TJ.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Tank, you know, the Quinn to Quinn and all of
those guys have been awesome to work with, a lot
of fun to work with, and it's great to see
their improvement kind of day over day.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
What have you seen from from Trevor just over the
last few weeks and obviously during the preseason game as well.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
I think you see that growth in terms of the
master of the offense. We talked about it a little
bit at the very beginning of training camp and even
a little bit in the spring.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I think you see that starting to click.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
Now.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
There are still things around him that can improve, and
there are still areas that he can improve, and he
knows that. But each day, in a different setting or
a different play, you see one little thing or two
little things, or sometimes it's a lot of things that
come together where you see that improvement in terms of
that mastery of his role.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
If you could just pick one one thing that he's
really improved on greatly over the last few weeks, what
would that be.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
It's hard to pick just one. I try to try
to count all the things that he improved on and
appreciate all of them. So I don't know that I
would just pick just pick one. But I think when
we look at the operation of the offense and his
control of the line of scrimmage, the cadence, some of
those things that we still are working to improve as
a unit, but his personal growth is evident in that stuff.
The footwork, some of the reads, playing fast completion. So
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there's a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
That they see. It makes it tough to pick one
that you guys.
Speaker 7 (03:13):
Gave him to work on. Do you see him I
guess missing that less, you know what I mean, like
not doing it less and less as camp goes, I'm
not making mistakes.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I would say he's improved and he will probably continue
to improve.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I mean that's our goal.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
There really is no point where you take your foot
off the gas on that stuff. You're always building the
fundamentals even throughout the season. Now, the time you can
allocate towards that shrinks as the season continues. But he's
improved and the goal is that he continues to prove
throughout the year.
Speaker 8 (03:38):
It seems like the Quins kind of stood out in
pass pro is it rare for rookiees come in and
able to handle that responsibility right away.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
I think it kind of depends on the guy, But
like I mentioned, he's done a great job of learning
the system his willingness to go in there and pass
protect in a bunch of difficult situations. The defense throws
a lot at those guys, not just from a mental standpoint,
but physically. They're asked to do a lot of different
things when it comes to picking up twists or getting
up in the a gap and taking on a back
or defensive end at times. But all of those guys,
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whether it's him or the rest of the room, have
really embraced that role because we're asking them to do
things that maybe they haven't done before, play techniques that
they haven't done before.
Speaker 9 (04:14):
What do you like about Tank Bigsby?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
There's a lot to like about Tank.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
I think you see the style of runner he is
and it almost pops out at times on tape with
the physicality and his ability to take one cut and
really attack lanes or holes depending on the run scheme.
It is I think his explosiveness in the run game
and hopefully that's something that we can say about all
the running backs in the room, whether it's him, Twoton, LeQuinn,
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or tj all of those guys have that ability to
take a two yard run, three yard run in the
five yard run, ten yard run, explosive run beyond that,
with their ability to break tackles or accelerate opening space,
probably have Thomas is.
Speaker 7 (04:51):
Frustration's pretty evident for those who also watching.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Is that at a concern level for you?
Speaker 9 (04:56):
Where is the concern level?
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Or that?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I don't know that I would listed like that. I
think that he holds himself to.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
A high standard, which we appreciate, and when he doesn't
play to the standard that he holds himself to, sometimes
that comes out in frustration. But this is what practice
is about. You're trying to improve on things. You're trying
to put yourself in challenging situations. If you're going out
there and just succeeding at everything every single day, you're
probably not pushing yourself hard enough. So we expect there
to be some element of frustration.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
With every position.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Whether it's a receiver, whether it's an offensive line, whether
it's mentally or physically. Most guys are going to be
in a situation at some point throughout the course of
a practice, throughout the course of a training camp, where
they probably push themselves, maybe beyond their limits, or maybe
they just don't perform to their standard. So I think
that frustration for all of us coaches, players included, it
becomes a part of the process of growth.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Whatever we're doing.
Speaker 7 (05:45):
I'd assume you'd want them to stop slam and the
helmet down there. Maybe not like bury the frustration, but yeah,
release it a little more constructively.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, I would love to see. I think
the equipment guys more are morencerned about that portion of
it than me in terms of the helmets. But but yeah,
there's a way we handle things, and we want to
have kind of a what now mindset in terms of
be able to learn from things and move on and
be in the present. So we're all working on that.
None of us are perfect at it.
Speaker 8 (06:13):
When you see a guy at Parker Washington just make
big plays throughout the entire course of a camp, how
much confidence does that.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Give in you on game day?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
They can translate it from practice to the game. I
mentioned it last time.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
I think that when you see a guy execute something
consistently in practice, it gives you the confidence that he
can go out there in the game situation. Now, the
practice setting is a little different than the game, but
like I just mentioned previously, we're trying to put these
guys in challenging positions and for him to go out
and execute those things in the most challenging positions when
he's tired, and the heat gives you the confidence, whether
it's him or anybody, to go out and do those things.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
On game day, what'd.
Speaker 9 (06:45):
You make of it?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
What'd you feel out there?
Speaker 6 (06:48):
You know, it was good competitiveness out here, guys going
at it, you know, competing, trying to make each other better.
So I thought that was the I guess the positive.
And today a little sloppy offensively. I thought we started
a great head of long I don't know how many
plays it was at a long drive to start, went
and scored and then from there, defense, you know, picked
it up a little bit and we had some some mistakes,
just self inflicted wounds. Kind of been the story of
camp of trying to clean up some of that stuff
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pre snap. So just got to clean up the operation.
The mistakes that you know, the defense doesn't inflict on
you, you do on yourself so that all those mistakes are
we just got to get better and cleaner. But I
thought there were some good competition guys flying around, so
there were some goods and bad We'll watch it, we'll
learn from it all.
Speaker 9 (07:28):
You sort of talked about it.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
But just at these mistakes that can just be cleaned up,
you know, these are these are correct ful mistakes offers
for sure.
Speaker 6 (07:35):
I mean it's you know, pre snap stuff. It's uh,
you know, there's always a little bit of that in camp,
but the amount we've had has been a little too
sloppy for the offense that we want to be. You know,
if we want to be a great offense, you have
to be really smart not make those mistakes that hurt yourself. Obviously,
execute and I think the execution has been actually decent
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once the ball snapped. But the other stuff before the snap,
you don't ever get a chance if you don't do
that right. So there's been some stuff that we just
have to lock in on the details, you know. For
me as a quarterback, got to operate a little cleaner.
Let's get up to the line faster so guys can
communicate and think and have time to you know, process
and you know, remind each other of the cadence, all
those things.
Speaker 9 (08:14):
It's all of us in it. We just have to
be sharper.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
I saw William was kind of talking to you and
Parker just now. I've seen it a few times act
like after practice where he'll kind of debrief just what
is it like having a coach that doesn't mind showing you, Hey,
this is exactly how I want it.
Speaker 9 (08:27):
It's great, you know, his communication.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
He's very i'd say thorough too, just with the details
of every play, of what he's thinking, the way he
communicates with me on the sideline from play to play,
between series and practice, and he does a great job
of talking to me and see seeing what I'm seeing.
And I think we're really starting to get on the
same page as far as I'm thinking, how he's thinking
in certain concepts and playing faster, and you know that's
going to be something that just continues to grow as
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we play more together and obviously as we get in
the season and start playing these real games. But it's
been awesome having them as our coach and just the
teaching he's been able to do for our group, not
just the quarterbacks, but the whole offense. You know, the
offensive line there running backs to the white outs. He's
he's done a great job of just teaching us all
a lot.
Speaker 9 (09:09):
And where's the.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Concern level with the drops?
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Seven of them I think today, had some last week.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
And the.
Speaker 9 (09:17):
Well, yeah, i'd have to watch it. You know, some
of those.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
You know it's in for some of them, but then
on the sideline looking at the dip out with some
of the guys here in between series when the other
groups were in, so i'd have to see him. It's just,
you know, some of its focus obviously, guys just looking
at the ball and focus and not trying to get
up feel too fast. Some good contested catches by our
defense to breaking up some passes, but we got we
got to treat all of them like their ours. And
then sometimes the throws aren't always perfect. You know, they
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got to be in the right spot at the right
time and give guys a chance to catch tuck and
get upfield. And if you're late against the good defense
like ours and give them time to close and make
a play on the ball, it makes it tougher. So
there's there's a lot of factors that could be involved
in that. It's not all on just guys catching the ball,
but that is part of it, is just you know,
focusing looking it in, not trying to get up field
too quickly, and making sure we secure it. But yeah,
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you know, we got to do our job as quarterbacks
too and give them the ball accurate on time.
Speaker 8 (10:06):
Because there were mistakes today with the drops and penalties.
Does that change the outlook for Sunday? I mean, if
this was a perfect practice, you guys probably wouldn't go.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
Do you expect to play?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (10:18):
I expect to play.
Speaker 6 (10:19):
And that's the kind of the mindset in the preseason
is expecting to play, and it's always kind of a
very variable or whatever, very number of snaps you don't
really know exactly what it's gonna be, but expecting to play.
I'm not sure if there was old it, today's practice
would or wouldn't have changed it. I don't know as
far as what coach is thinking, but I'm prepared to play,
and from always communicated to us, we're prepared to go
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and play a little bit. So it's just another opportunity
for us to get better.
Speaker 9 (10:45):
You know.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
I think it's you got to take it for what
it is and learn from it and watch the tape,
and you know, you can't be doom and gloom come
game time because we had a rough practice. You gotta
be able to bounce back. But we do have to
clean this stuff up, some of the stuff showing up
all camps. So we got to be deliberate and how
we and what we do to change it. You do
something different in order to get different results.
Speaker 7 (11:05):
I think you talked to us earlier in camp and
you said those footwork change and stuff that you guys
that you made and worked on, you wanted to see,
like would you revert back to some of the old
stuff when you're in a game or a scrimmage or
something like that. So what did you less than you
thought you would or how have you like manage that.
Speaker 9 (11:21):
A little bit?
Speaker 6 (11:21):
I felt like in the game a little bit reverted
to some of this old stuff I used to do,
not a ton though I thought it's about what I
would expect. You know, some snaps where it wasn't perfect,
like it's practice, and where you're not gonna get hit
and you're not in the tight pocket, you know all
those things. It's obviously easier to control that out here
because of this for the Red Jersey.
Speaker 9 (11:42):
You're not going to get hit.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
So I think that's great practice for me, is keeping
calm feet, keeping calm eyes, being disciplined with my feet
in the pocket, staying in the safe spots, finding those
safe spots. And I thought overall the game was pretty good,
but there's a couple snaps of just bouncing around a
little bit that I want to clean up and that
stuff that we already watched and kind of started working
on for this week.
Speaker 7 (12:02):
Is it start to feel most of time the like
second Natures at this.
Speaker 9 (12:05):
Point, Yeah, No, it does.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
It's starting to feel starting to feel a lot more
comfortable and natural.
Speaker 9 (12:10):
I'm not having to think about it.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
I'm not having to say, okay, let's you know, it's
my footwork on this play. You know none of that
stuff anymore obviously, so I feel comfortable with it. Some
of the just mechanical stuff that you've done for years
is just the way you hitch, the way you transfer way,
and some of that stuff takes a little longer to
train out. But we do such a good job of
working in Indie in all the periods that aren't team
periods to where I'm starting to build that muscle memory
where I see it carrying over, but I don't think
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about it when I'm playing and when I'm in team
periods or in a game, because you don't want to
be thinking about what am I doing with my mechanics?
That's you can't play that way. You got enough to
think about. So we've done a great job of working
on it, really really detailed work in Indie and trying
to pinpoint the issues in those periods.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Sorry, is it like rebuilding a golf swing?
Speaker 6 (12:55):
I should, That's something I need to do. I don't
know to answer your question. I'm not good enough at
golf to answer that. Where I haven't changed my swing,
I probably should for all the people watch and probably
think I need to, But I don't know.
Speaker 9 (13:10):
That's a tough question.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
But like when you when you shotgun, to his point,
you don't ever walk up there going reminding yourself left before.
Speaker 9 (13:15):
Not anymore. Okay, in the spring, it was a little bit.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
I'd get up there and I'd have to, you know,
switch my feedback, you know, because I've done it for years.
Speaker 9 (13:24):
Not that long, but a long team.
Speaker 6 (13:27):
I don't remember what I did when I was seven
or eight or whatever.
Speaker 7 (13:32):
From your perspective, when does the starting offensive line, So
I need to be set so that you can start
building the rhythm with that group.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
I mean, that's not really a question for me to answer.
I think continuity is important. But the way this game is,
you know, guys get hurt and injured and you got
to O line is a group where I don't know
what the stats are, but typically you don't have the
same five guys every single game for the whole season.
So there's value in getting other people in there and
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playing and building that chemistry with more than just five guys,
because the reality is something could happen and you might
not have one of those guys too.
Speaker 9 (14:08):
Those guys who knows. I mean, it just depends on
the type of year you have.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
But and hopefully, you know, pray all our guys are
healthy all year. But I think I think we have
a good feel for the five up front and who
it's going to be and and those guys are working
well together. But we have a lot of guys that
can play, which is encouraging. But we just got to
get a little bit more on the same page. When
guys come in at these different positions, and like we
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talked about before, it's not always the most comfortable thing
for those guys to bounce around, but it's valuable for us.
So I think they've done a good job of doing
it and doing it pretty well for the most part.
We just got to clean up some of the simple
stuff that we could fix.
Speaker 8 (14:43):
Leaves said last week. They've took into consideration of what
guys like Hainesy and herself said about.
Speaker 9 (14:48):
Wanting to play.
Speaker 8 (14:49):
What does it mean do you have a coach you
want your guys in put when it goes decision making process.
Speaker 9 (14:53):
He's been awesome, you know.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
I feel like there's been a lot of I couldn't
name all of them, but there's been a lot of
just little things where he's taken something to players said
or suggested and implemented it. And I think as players
that goes a long way, because you're like, all right,
we're in this together and he wants us to be
And it's not all about being comfortable, but it's also
listening to your players and taking that feedback and using
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it to make your team better.
Speaker 9 (15:17):
And whether it's the schedule or practice.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
Or whatever, how guys are feeling. I think he just
has a really good pulse on the team and it
goes along way with the guys, like even some of
the stuff in training camp, the way he structured things,
we've been able to get our bodies back, and I
think guys are very one appreciative of that. And notice that,
especially when you've been in the league now for a
few years, you see how other places work, how other
training camps are, and you're appreciative of the stuff he does.
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And then on the flip side, we have to take
care of him and come out here and be clean
and crisp and practice hard because he's done a great
job of really helping us feel good coming into these
I mean, you never feel great in training camp, but
for training camp, I think everyone would say, we feel
pretty good for you for it being training camp.
Speaker 8 (16:00):
And how much Cross says the point happened or from
you guys and pass where it seems like he's kind
of sit out there.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
He's done a great job ever since he came in.
It's it's been something I've noticed is his pass protection.
He's picked it up really quickly. But the biggest thing is, yeah,
he knows what to do, but the way he does
he's really physical, violent, meeting linebackers in the line of scrimmage,
and that's huge. You get these games inside with these
linebackers trying to pick off our centers and guards, and
if you can, the sooner you can meet them, the
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more physically you are, it knocks them off their game.
They're trying to run and you can pass it off.
And that's a that's a killer for a group up front,
is if you get picked on a game, it could
be a four man five man rush and you should
be blocked. And if we get picked and it's an
unblocked hitter on you. So he's been he's been a
really you know, key blocker for us in pass protection.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
He likes top.
Speaker 9 (16:46):
Yeah, that was that was a good stuff.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
I love how we Yeah, obviously we don't want to
make a habit of that, but the competitiveness and then
right after both of them are great and like like
nothing happens. So that's what you want to see. I mean,
it gets competitive out here and it should be. Uh
don't want to cross the that line too often, but
we're all teammates at the end of the day.
Speaker 9 (17:04):
For sure. Would
Do you feel about that? Scrim interesting? Just what you
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guys are have to accomplish.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
It's good work.
Speaker 3 (00:04):
Good to get the work in a lot to improve.
I think the guys know that. We know that, so
I'm excited to.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Dig into the tape and see what we can work on.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
How concerning would it be that, you know, just having
all the drops of the picks and d the disjointed
this like, how concerning would that be moving forward?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Or is this one from one piece of many things
that we're working on trying to improve, whether it's fundamentals, communication,
just simple execution, a place here and there, alignment, assignment,
all of those details are important. So we're trying to
improve everything, not just a drop here.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
There is the.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Offensive line still at work in progress. I mean you
got I think we used I think you used seven
different six different left tackles or right tackles in there.
Is it still piece mealing this thing together?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I don't know that I would frame it necessarily as
piece mealing.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I think one of the questions you guys asked last
week was about the flexibility the offensive line. I would
probably still look at it like that. We have had
some injuries, guys, go in and out, even temporary injuries
where guys miss a drive, and those have been opportunities
for other guys to step up and play different positions.
So you probably see out there today we have multiple
guys play on different sides, play guard, play tackle, inside outside,
different centers. So it's great that those guys have the
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ability to do that and we have the chance to
get that type of work.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
So is there a point, though, with the season three
weeks wa point where you want to get the five
solidified and let them work together.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Absolutely, I think so, But I think at the same
time you recognize that over the course of the year,
it's very rare nowadays for the five same starters to
play every single play for an entire season. So this
work to get guys working with each other that might
not always work together on week one or week two
is invaluable to have right now.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
How would you evaluate Beachiel Tutor and kind of how
he's come along in camp.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I think the growth has been encouraging, a testament to
his work, Coach Morten's work with him and really all
the running backs their ability to improve, whether it's in
the run game as runners, in the pass protection game,
or as pass catchers. The entire room, all those guys
have really embraced all fast to that position and what
we're asking them to do.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
So between him, TJ.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Tank, you know, the Quinn to Quinn and all of
those guys have been awesome to work with, a lot
of fun to work with, and it's great to see
their improvement kind of day over day.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
What have you seen from from Trevor just over the
last few weeks and obviously during the preseason game as well.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
I think you see that growth in terms of the
master of the offense. We talked about it a little
bit at the very beginning of training camp and even
a little bit in the spring.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I think you see that starting to click.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
Now.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
There are still things around him that can improve, and
there are still areas that he can improve, and he
knows that. But each day, in a different setting or
a different play, you see one little thing or two
little things, or sometimes it's a lot of things that
come together where you see that improvement in terms of
that mastery of his role.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
If you could just pick one one thing that he's
really improved on greatly over the last few weeks, what
would that be.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
It's hard to pick just one. I try to try
to count all the things that he improved on and
appreciate all of them. So I don't know that I
would just pick just pick one. But I think when
we look at the operation of the offense and his
control of the line of scrimmage, the cadence, some of
those things that we still are working to improve as
a unit, but his personal growth is evident in that stuff.
The footwork, some of the reads, playing fast completion. So
(03:09):
there's a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
That they see. It makes it tough to pick one
that you guys.
Speaker 7 (03:13):
Gave him to work on. Do you see him I
guess missing that less, you know what I mean, like
not doing it less and less as camp goes, I'm
not making mistakes.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I would say he's improved and he will probably continue
to improve.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I mean that's our goal.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
There really is no point where you take your foot
off the gas on that stuff. You're always building the
fundamentals even throughout the season. Now, the time you can
allocate towards that shrinks as the season continues. But he's
improved and the goal is that he continues to prove
throughout the year.
Speaker 8 (03:38):
It seems like the Quins kind of stood out in
pass pro is it rare for rookiees come in and
able to handle that responsibility right away.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
I think it kind of depends on the guy, But
like I mentioned, he's done a great job of learning
the system his willingness to go in there and pass
protect in a bunch of difficult situations. The defense throws
a lot at those guys, not just from a mental standpoint,
but physically. They're asked to do a lot of different
things when it comes to picking up twists or getting
up in the a gap and taking on a back
or defensive end at times. But all of those guys,
(04:06):
whether it's him or the rest of the room, have
really embraced that role because we're asking them to do
things that maybe they haven't done before, play techniques that
they haven't done before.
Speaker 9 (04:14):
What do you like about Tank Bigsby?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
There's a lot to like about Tank.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
I think you see the style of runner he is
and it almost pops out at times on tape with
the physicality and his ability to take one cut and
really attack lanes or holes depending on the run scheme.
It is I think his explosiveness in the run game
and hopefully that's something that we can say about all
the running backs in the room, whether it's him, Twoton, LeQuinn,
(04:38):
or tj all of those guys have that ability to
take a two yard run, three yard run in the
five yard run, ten yard run, explosive run beyond that,
with their ability to break tackles or accelerate opening space,
probably have Thomas is.
Speaker 7 (04:51):
Frustration's pretty evident for those who also watching.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Is that at a concern level for you?
Speaker 9 (04:56):
Where is the concern level?
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Or that?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I don't know that I would listed like that. I
think that he holds himself to.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
A high standard, which we appreciate, and when he doesn't
play to the standard that he holds himself to, sometimes
that comes out in frustration. But this is what practice
is about. You're trying to improve on things. You're trying
to put yourself in challenging situations. If you're going out
there and just succeeding at everything every single day, you're
probably not pushing yourself hard enough. So we expect there
to be some element of frustration.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
With every position.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Whether it's a receiver, whether it's an offensive line, whether
it's mentally or physically. Most guys are going to be
in a situation at some point throughout the course of
a practice, throughout the course of a training camp, where
they probably push themselves, maybe beyond their limits, or maybe
they just don't perform to their standard. So I think
that frustration for all of us coaches, players included, it
becomes a part of the process of growth.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Whatever we're doing.
Speaker 7 (05:45):
I'd assume you'd want them to stop slam and the
helmet down there. Maybe not like bury the frustration, but yeah,
release it a little more constructively.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, I would love to see. I think
the equipment guys more are morencerned about that portion of
it than me in terms of the helmets. But but yeah,
there's a way we handle things, and we want to
have kind of a what now mindset in terms of
be able to learn from things and move on and
be in the present. So we're all working on that.
None of us are perfect at it.
Speaker 8 (06:13):
When you see a guy at Parker Washington just make
big plays throughout the entire course of a camp, how
much confidence does that.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Give in you on game day?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
They can translate it from practice to the game. I
mentioned it last time.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
I think that when you see a guy execute something
consistently in practice, it gives you the confidence that he
can go out there in the game situation. Now, the
practice setting is a little different than the game, but
like I just mentioned previously, we're trying to put these
guys in challenging positions and for him to go out
and execute those things in the most challenging positions when
he's tired, and the heat gives you the confidence, whether
it's him or anybody, to go out and do those things.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
On game day, what'd.
Speaker 9 (06:45):
You make of it?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
What'd you feel out there?
Speaker 6 (06:48):
You know, it was good competitiveness out here, guys going
at it, you know, competing, trying to make each other better.
So I thought that was the I guess the positive.
And today a little sloppy offensively. I thought we started
a great head of long I don't know how many
plays it was at a long drive to start, went
and scored and then from there, defense, you know, picked
it up a little bit and we had some some mistakes,
just self inflicted wounds. Kind of been the story of
camp of trying to clean up some of that stuff
(07:10):
pre snap. So just got to clean up the operation.
The mistakes that you know, the defense doesn't inflict on
you, you do on yourself so that all those mistakes are
we just got to get better and cleaner. But I
thought there were some good competition guys flying around, so
there were some goods and bad We'll watch it, we'll
learn from it all.
Speaker 9 (07:28):
You sort of talked about it.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
But just at these mistakes that can just be cleaned up,
you know, these are these are correct ful mistakes offers
for sure.
Speaker 6 (07:35):
I mean it's you know, pre snap stuff. It's uh,
you know, there's always a little bit of that in camp,
but the amount we've had has been a little too
sloppy for the offense that we want to be. You know,
if we want to be a great offense, you have
to be really smart not make those mistakes that hurt yourself. Obviously,
execute and I think the execution has been actually decent
(07:57):
once the ball snapped. But the other stuff before the snap,
you don't ever get a chance if you don't do
that right. So there's been some stuff that we just
have to lock in on the details, you know. For
me as a quarterback, got to operate a little cleaner.
Let's get up to the line faster so guys can
communicate and think and have time to you know, process
and you know, remind each other of the cadence, all
those things.
Speaker 9 (08:14):
It's all of us in it. We just have to
be sharper.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
I saw William was kind of talking to you and
Parker just now. I've seen it a few times act
like after practice where he'll kind of debrief just what
is it like having a coach that doesn't mind showing you, Hey,
this is exactly how I want it.
Speaker 9 (08:27):
It's great, you know, his communication.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
He's very i'd say thorough too, just with the details
of every play, of what he's thinking, the way he
communicates with me on the sideline from play to play,
between series and practice, and he does a great job
of talking to me and see seeing what I'm seeing.
And I think we're really starting to get on the
same page as far as I'm thinking, how he's thinking
in certain concepts and playing faster, and you know that's
going to be something that just continues to grow as
(08:52):
we play more together and obviously as we get in
the season and start playing these real games. But it's
been awesome having them as our coach and just the
teaching he's been able to do for our group, not
just the quarterbacks, but the whole offense. You know, the
offensive line there running backs to the white outs. He's
he's done a great job of just teaching us all
a lot.
Speaker 9 (09:09):
And where's the.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Concern level with the drops?
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Seven of them I think today, had some last week.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
And the.
Speaker 9 (09:17):
Well, yeah, i'd have to watch it. You know, some
of those.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
You know it's in for some of them, but then
on the sideline looking at the dip out with some
of the guys here in between series when the other
groups were in, so i'd have to see him. It's just,
you know, some of its focus obviously, guys just looking
at the ball and focus and not trying to get
up feel too fast. Some good contested catches by our
defense to breaking up some passes, but we got we
got to treat all of them like their ours. And
then sometimes the throws aren't always perfect. You know, they
(09:42):
got to be in the right spot at the right
time and give guys a chance to catch tuck and
get upfield. And if you're late against the good defense
like ours and give them time to close and make
a play on the ball, it makes it tougher. So
there's there's a lot of factors that could be involved
in that. It's not all on just guys catching the ball,
but that is part of it, is just you know,
focusing looking it in, not trying to get up field
too quickly, and making sure we secure it. But yeah,
(10:03):
you know, we got to do our job as quarterbacks
too and give them the ball accurate on time.
Speaker 8 (10:06):
Because there were mistakes today with the drops and penalties.
Does that change the outlook for Sunday? I mean, if
this was a perfect practice, you guys probably wouldn't go.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
Do you expect to play?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (10:18):
I expect to play.
Speaker 6 (10:19):
And that's the kind of the mindset in the preseason
is expecting to play, and it's always kind of a
very variable or whatever, very number of snaps you don't
really know exactly what it's gonna be, but expecting to play.
I'm not sure if there was old it, today's practice
would or wouldn't have changed it. I don't know as
far as what coach is thinking, but I'm prepared to play,
and from always communicated to us, we're prepared to go
(10:41):
and play a little bit. So it's just another opportunity
for us to get better.
Speaker 9 (10:45):
You know.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
I think it's you got to take it for what
it is and learn from it and watch the tape,
and you know, you can't be doom and gloom come
game time because we had a rough practice. You gotta
be able to bounce back. But we do have to
clean this stuff up, some of the stuff showing up
all camps. So we got to be deliberate and how
we and what we do to change it. You do
something different in order to get different results.
Speaker 7 (11:05):
I think you talked to us earlier in camp and
you said those footwork change and stuff that you guys
that you made and worked on, you wanted to see,
like would you revert back to some of the old
stuff when you're in a game or a scrimmage or
something like that. So what did you less than you
thought you would or how have you like manage that.
Speaker 9 (11:21):
A little bit?
Speaker 6 (11:21):
I felt like in the game a little bit reverted
to some of this old stuff I used to do,
not a ton though I thought it's about what I
would expect. You know, some snaps where it wasn't perfect,
like it's practice, and where you're not gonna get hit
and you're not in the tight pocket, you know all
those things. It's obviously easier to control that out here
because of this for the Red Jersey.
Speaker 9 (11:42):
You're not going to get hit.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
So I think that's great practice for me, is keeping
calm feet, keeping calm eyes, being disciplined with my feet
in the pocket, staying in the safe spots, finding those
safe spots. And I thought overall the game was pretty good,
but there's a couple snaps of just bouncing around a
little bit that I want to clean up and that
stuff that we already watched and kind of started working
on for this week.
Speaker 7 (12:02):
Is it start to feel most of time the like
second Natures at this.
Speaker 9 (12:05):
Point, Yeah, No, it does.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
It's starting to feel starting to feel a lot more
comfortable and natural.
Speaker 9 (12:10):
I'm not having to think about it.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
I'm not having to say, okay, let's you know, it's
my footwork on this play. You know none of that
stuff anymore obviously, so I feel comfortable with it. Some
of the just mechanical stuff that you've done for years
is just the way you hitch, the way you transfer way,
and some of that stuff takes a little longer to
train out. But we do such a good job of
working in Indie in all the periods that aren't team
periods to where I'm starting to build that muscle memory
where I see it carrying over, but I don't think
(12:31):
about it when I'm playing and when I'm in team
periods or in a game, because you don't want to
be thinking about what am I doing with my mechanics?
That's you can't play that way. You got enough to
think about. So we've done a great job of working
on it, really really detailed work in Indie and trying
to pinpoint the issues in those periods.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Sorry, is it like rebuilding a golf swing?
Speaker 6 (12:55):
I should, That's something I need to do. I don't
know to answer your question. I'm not good enough at
golf to answer that. Where I haven't changed my swing,
I probably should for all the people watch and probably
think I need to, But I don't know.
Speaker 9 (13:10):
That's a tough question.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
But like when you when you shotgun, to his point,
you don't ever walk up there going reminding yourself left before.
Speaker 9 (13:15):
Not anymore. Okay, in the spring, it was a little bit.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
I'd get up there and I'd have to, you know,
switch my feedback, you know, because I've done it for years.
Speaker 9 (13:24):
Not that long, but a long team.
Speaker 6 (13:27):
I don't remember what I did when I was seven
or eight or whatever.
Speaker 7 (13:32):
From your perspective, when does the starting offensive line, So
I need to be set so that you can start
building the rhythm with that group.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
I mean, that's not really a question for me to answer.
I think continuity is important. But the way this game is,
you know, guys get hurt and injured and you got
to O line is a group where I don't know
what the stats are, but typically you don't have the
same five guys every single game for the whole season.
So there's value in getting other people in there and
(14:00):
playing and building that chemistry with more than just five guys,
because the reality is something could happen and you might
not have one of those guys too.
Speaker 9 (14:08):
Those guys who knows. I mean, it just depends on
the type of year you have.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
But and hopefully, you know, pray all our guys are
healthy all year. But I think I think we have
a good feel for the five up front and who
it's going to be and and those guys are working
well together. But we have a lot of guys that
can play, which is encouraging. But we just got to
get a little bit more on the same page. When
guys come in at these different positions, and like we
(14:31):
talked about before, it's not always the most comfortable thing
for those guys to bounce around, but it's valuable for us.
So I think they've done a good job of doing
it and doing it pretty well for the most part.
We just got to clean up some of the simple
stuff that we could fix.
Speaker 8 (14:43):
Leaves said last week. They've took into consideration of what
guys like Hainesy and herself said about.
Speaker 9 (14:48):
Wanting to play.
Speaker 8 (14:49):
What does it mean do you have a coach you
want your guys in put when it goes decision making process.
Speaker 9 (14:53):
He's been awesome, you know.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
I feel like there's been a lot of I couldn't
name all of them, but there's been a lot of
just little things where he's taken something to players said
or suggested and implemented it. And I think as players
that goes a long way, because you're like, all right,
we're in this together and he wants us to be
And it's not all about being comfortable, but it's also
listening to your players and taking that feedback and using
(15:16):
it to make your team better.
Speaker 9 (15:17):
And whether it's the schedule or practice.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
Or whatever, how guys are feeling. I think he just
has a really good pulse on the team and it
goes along way with the guys, like even some of
the stuff in training camp, the way he structured things,
we've been able to get our bodies back, and I
think guys are very one appreciative of that. And notice that,
especially when you've been in the league now for a
few years, you see how other places work, how other
training camps are, and you're appreciative of the stuff he does.
(15:42):
And then on the flip side, we have to take
care of him and come out here and be clean
and crisp and practice hard because he's done a great
job of really helping us feel good coming into these
I mean, you never feel great in training camp, but
for training camp, I think everyone would say, we feel
pretty good for you for it being training camp.
Speaker 8 (16:00):
And how much Cross says the point happened or from
you guys and pass where it seems like he's kind
of sit out there.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
He's done a great job ever since he came in.
It's it's been something I've noticed is his pass protection.
He's picked it up really quickly. But the biggest thing is, yeah,
he knows what to do, but the way he does
he's really physical, violent, meeting linebackers in the line of scrimmage,
and that's huge. You get these games inside with these
linebackers trying to pick off our centers and guards, and
if you can, the sooner you can meet them, the
(16:24):
more physically you are, it knocks them off their game.
They're trying to run and you can pass it off.
And that's a that's a killer for a group up front,
is if you get picked on a game, it could
be a four man five man rush and you should
be blocked. And if we get picked and it's an
unblocked hitter on you. So he's been he's been a
really you know, key blocker for us in pass protection.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
He likes top.
Speaker 9 (16:46):
Yeah, that was that was a good stuff.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
I love how we Yeah, obviously we don't want to
make a habit of that, but the competitiveness and then
right after both of them are great and like like
nothing happens. So that's what you want to see. I mean,
it gets competitive out here and it should be. Uh
don't want to cross the that line too often, but
we're all teammates at the end of the day.
Speaker 9 (17:04):
For sure. Would
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