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The New York Jet and are now on the board.
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right now the New York Jet Flick. Welcome to another
episode of NFL Draft Preview. The draft is here, Ethan Greenberg,
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Dame Brugler, the Draft Thursday night. We're coming in hot.
We got a seven round bock draft right now. The
Jets last pick is in round five. But we're gonna
talk about all of them. We're gonna give a little preview.
But first I gotta know, Dane, this week for you, like,
what are the days leading up to the draft for you?
Because for someone like me, a little calm before the storm,
then Thursday, Friday, Saturday comes around pedal to the metal.
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I assume that's not the case for you, though, Yeah,
you know it's crazy. Uh. First and foremost, just trying
to preserve my voice a little bit, so I don't
I don't lose it before Draft weekend. But you know,
I think it's there's a lot of noise this week,
and a lot of it is just late info that
makes sense, but isn't going to happen. A lot of
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it is spin. A lot of it is just rumors,
and so it makes it tough to try to weed
through everything and figure out fact from fiction. Um, every
year this happens, and it could be tough to just
figure out what makes sense because and it's not always
what makes sense, because sometimes what makes sense to me
or you maybe is not what makes sense to one
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of these teams and what's actually going to happen. And
it doesn't help that this is the most unpredictable draft
we've had in a long time, and a big part
of that is because we we're missing those tentpoles, those quarterbacks.
Last year, you know, we new quarterbacks are going one
to three, so it was a little bit easier to
forecast okay, four or five, six and so on. This year,
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good chance, we don't have any quarterbacks until maybe twentie pick.
And so there's just there's no no real feel for
where those quarterbacks are gonna start coming off the board,
and so that makes it even tougher to figure out, Okay,
how's that top ted gonna play out? Um, you know,
even the top three, I don't know that to Jets
have a great feel for who's gonna be left on
the board when they pick up four, So it makes
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it really interesting. And we're gonna talk about the just
some general draft questions after the seven round mock draft.
Let's dive right into it, all right, Pick number four,
you're throwing a curveball at us because you've published a
seven round mock draft for the Athletic You had Cavon
Thibodeau out of Oregon as your fourth overall pick. Now
the fourth overall pick in this mock draft is Ikey
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A Kwanu out of NC State. Why did you go
with Ikey? Why the change? And what do you think
that he adds to an already crowded Jets offensive line room. Yeah,
you know, I'm just I'm not I'm not thinking cave
On Tibodeaux at four. I don't. I just I'm not
sure it's going to happen. Um. And I think they'd
love to get a pass rusher, but it's Jermaine Johnson.
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Uh two is four too early for him? I think
that's the question. Um. And if it is, then we're
looking at our offensive line because I don't think they
go owner. And if they don't go corner and they
don't go cave on Thibodeaux, then we're really looking at
offensive line or Jermaine Johnson. UM and I opted for
the offensive lineman here. And you know, McKay Beckton is
a little bit of wild card right now. Is he
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in the long term plans? What's his outlook for this
upcoming season? Um, I think there's a lot of unknown
there and there's a lot of speculation, a lot of
we just have to wait and see how it plays out.
But with ikiakwan who's sitting there from NC State, a
guy that can be your tackle, UM has a ton
of potential. Uh, long term has a lot of things
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going for him that you feel like as uh he
gets more reps, as the technique and the awareness developed,
he's only going to get better and better and better.
So ik Ikwanu, that'shy pick right now at number four.
I mean ask me in ten minutes, maybe that will change,
but uh, you know, I think for right now, let's
go with Ikiakwanu to the Jets of number four. I
think that there there's so many different directions they could
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go here and offensive tackle. Uh, it's definitely one of
those directions. That's that's that's on the board for them
all right, there's a lot to unpack here. My first
question is about Ikey as a player. You view him
as a tackle, right, because he does have tackle guard versatility.
So you think for the Jets at four he would
play tackle, no question. I think the Jets love their
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guard situation. Uh, you know, with a V T and Tomlinson,
I think they they really feel like they have two
of the best guards in the NFL tandem. And so
now at tackle, you know, they really like George fan
Um and it's just a matter of do they see
Aquanu as a clear upgrade h at tackle over the
McKay Beckton situation, and that's that's that's an unknown right now,
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you know. And so uh, if they have a chance
to go get a Quantu, I think that's in play. Uh.
He's a guy that played some guard but mostly played
tackle at NC State, and he first and foremost just
a devastating run blocker. That that's what he does. That
that's his bread and butter, explosive at contact, the play
violence is outstanding, one of the best finishers I've ever
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scouted on the offensive line. Um and then hit the
strides that he has made in past protection um and
he's still work in progress there a little bit. He'll
he'll tend to overset quite a bit. But I think
the strides that he has made, the improvements just in
the last calendar year tells him. It gives me great
optimism that he's going to continue to get better and
better and better as a pass walker. So um ikiakwanmu.
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I think that he's gonna be well liked in that building,
and you know, could be. Uh, it's gonna be on
a shortlist. I think of the players they discussed that
number four. If he's still there, you never know, he
could be off the board. And the first three picks,
I know the Jaguars like Iky quite a bit. Uh,
the Texans are looking at him as well. So no
guarantee he's gonna be there, but if he is there,
he's at least part of that conversation for Joe Douglas,
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coach Sala and the Jets brain trust as they make
their decision. All right, My second question pick number four
is you've been you've been banging the drama of no
cornerback four, So you believe for the Jets, and I'm
just curious your reasoning behind it, because the Jets they
could use an upgrade at cornerback. They upgraded with DJ Reid,
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They have Bryce holland Brandon Ecles. That room would look
totally different where it ended last year if they added
someone like Sauce Gardner at number four. But Joe Douglas
hasn't selected a cornerback in before round five as general
manager of the New York Jets. That's Bryce halland Michael
Carter the second actually I looked it up. Since two
thousand fifteen, Joe Douglas has been a part of the Bears,
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the Eagles, and now the Jets. The earliest selected corner
was Sydney Jones in round two for the Philadelphia Eagles. Now,
is that the reasoning purely behind why you think corner
will not be a New York Jet position at four?
That's part of it. The other part is the coaching staff.
You know, Coach Salad coming from UH You know that
that system where they play a ton of zone and
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they just I don't think they feel like they need
to invest a top five pick at the position, even
though corner clearly a premium position in today's NFL. With
the scheme that they have and where coach Sola comes from.
How they've invested in corner in the past. I just
don't think they feel like they need to use that
high of a pick, that type of price tag on
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the position. Um And who knows. Maybe maybe I'm wrong
and maybe they'll surprise us and take a corner there.
But I just based on their history, I don't think
that they view corner as being uh, that a position
they have to draft that early. They can wait to
the second round and feel really good about the guy
they're going to get there and focus on pass rush
because that is coach Solo where he's come from. That's
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what he wants. He wants pass rush. It all starts
upfront for that coaching staff. And I think Joe Douglas
coach Solo there, I think they're aligned in that thinking.
All right, So that brings us to pick number ten. Well,
you said Jermaine Johnson could be in the consideration of
four maybe a little early. He is your pick at
number ten in this mock draft for the Green and White.
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If you're Joe Douglas, are you holding your breath at
Jermaine Johnson even is there at ten? Or do you
feel pretty confident that will be available? Yeah? I think
that you're feeling good about your options, because even if
Jamaine Johnson isn't there, I think they feel pretty good
about one of the receivers that would be there. So
even I think they prefer to go pass rush again,
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it all starts up front for that scheme. They want
to get more disruption. Um, I think they'd still feel
good about Garrett Wilson or Jamison Williams or you know
whoever ends up being whichever receiver ends up being their
attend So uh, you look at how the top ten,
the top nine, Atlanta at a Seattle at nine to
possible landing spots for Jermaine Johnson. Jamaine Johnson is a
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good player, and you know, it would not shock me
if he went four. I think that's at least uh,
there's at least a chance that that could happen. So um,
I don't know that he'll be there at ten, but
there's a decent chance he will be. And I think
that might be the ideal scenario for the Jets. Pass
on pass rush at four, still get a guy that
you really really like at number ten. Um, And I
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think the Jets are in good shape addressing both the
offensive and defensive lines with those two top ten picks. Obviously,
this draft is more unpredictable, it feels like than years
past because of no clear cut blue chip talent, no
clear cut quarterback at the top of the list. So
if you're the Jets, or if you're a Jets fan
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and you're and you're looking at the top ten and
you're crossing your fingers, Jermaine Johnson is there, Like, who
who are other teams or what are other teams that
you're like, if he would just get past this team,
because I could see that team going in Jermaine Johnson,
then he's got a really good chance at going or
being available at number ten for the Jets at seven,
eight nine. I think you know, the Giants, the Falcons,
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the Seahawks. I think all three of those teams could
you a pass rusher. There's a good chance we see
cave On Thibodeau go to one of those three teams.
Um And I think there's every team I talked to
in terms of you know, because I think people need
to realize the NFL teams you mock drafts as well.
It's not just those of us on the outside, and
you know, people like the mock the mock drafts. Teams
do mock drafts because they want to try and forecast. Okay,
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if we think this team is doing this, this seems
doing that. Okay, this is who will be available for us.
So teams that are picking in the teams they're doing
a mock draft of the first twelve picks. Talking to
those teams, they have no idea. They say it's so unpredictable.
They say they be prepared for a shocking pick. It's
going to happen um and so I think that their
chaos is ready, and it's just a matter of where
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does that chaos start. Is it somewhere top ten? Do
we wait? To the teams? So there's a lot of
intrigue with how it's all gonna play out because I
don't think it's going to happen the way that a
lot of us think it might. And and NFL teams
are preparing for that, alright. So the Jets pick four
and pick ten ich Kuai, Jermaine Johnson, they have thirty
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five and thirty eight. Pick number thirty five, you're going
wide receiver. Wide receiver on the board. Jahan Dotson. Maybe
not the biggest guy, although you love his catch radius
and are you nervous at all about the size in
the Jets wide receiver room with Corey Davis coming back
to the biggest of the bunch, then you have Alijah
More and then you have Bracks and Barrios. You add
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Johan Dotson. What does he add to the group And
what do you think about the height discrepancy between those
three guys and Corey Davis. Yeah, it's certainly fair to
talk about the height. Um, it's not there. But I
will say that I think that Jermaine John or excuse me,
John Dotson has probably the largest catch radius of any
sub five eleven receiver scouted. Maybe the best ball skills too.
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I mean it's really uh fascinating to watching the tracking
skills that that my ball mentality that I'm gonna go
up there and get it. Um. And he's an outstanding
athlete four fourth three speed h I mean, if you
leave him in one on one coverage, he can set
up those moves and create that separation, give the quarterback space,
so you know, if you feel comfortable that you know
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he can get off press. He's not gonna get out
physical by the physical dbs that he's gonna see in
the NFL. Then you're gonna love John Dotson what he offers. Now,
a chance he's off the board in the first round,
but there's also a chance he might slip to the
second round, just like Elijah Moore did last year and
could be right into the lapse of the Jets who
are picking pretty earlier in the second So John Dotson
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definitely wanted to watch there. Who are other receivers in
that mold that could go round one, could go round
two and it wouldn't surprise you either way. I know
you mentioned Elijah Moore was in that mold, like another
guy that comes to mind from last year or shod
Bateman feels like he was in that mold he ended
up going in around one. So if Johan Dotson is
one of those guys, who are the others, uh from
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from this draft or pass draft from this draft? Like
is it George Pickens, like is it? Then? Like, who
are some of the guys that are in that Johan
Dotson could be first round, could be at the top
of the second. Yeah. I think Sky More from Western
Michigan's also in that group that that tier. If I
just just my opinion, I think the top tier is
Garrett Wilson, Jamison Williams, Drake London. Those are the top
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three and the second tier is a crowded group. That's
where think you have Trail and Burke's Jahan Dotson, Uh,
George Pickens is in their sky Moore's in there, Christian
Watson from North Dakota State UM is in there. UM.
And so I think that with that group, you're trying
to figure out okay, because every team is gonna look
at these guys a little bit differently. Some are gonna
bank on the traits that Christian Watson offers, while others
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are gonna look at, okay, with George Pickens, that competitiveness
that he's got, true ex traits. Uh, he can be
a wide receiver one for us down the road. They're
gonna look at Pickens, but someone look at sky More
and say, Okay, well you know he fits exactly. What
we need is that underneath player has speed, has yak potential.
So each one of these receivers brings something a little
bit different, and each team is looking for something a
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little bit different receiver, and that will dictate who ends
up going first round, who slips to the second, and
who knows there's a good chance we can see as
many as seven receivers in the first round. That's only
happened once before in NFL draft history. That was two
US on four with That was the Larry Fitzgerald Draft. So, uh,
seven receivers are possible in the first round? Own if
we see six? Okay, who falls? Who's that guy's? Is
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it Dotson? Is it Pickens? Is it? Is it Watson?
So a lot of intrigue with these receivers. How many
go first round? How many are still left for those
teams in the early second still looking for a pass catcher?
And then the Jets have picked thirty eight somebody that
we really haven't talked about, Kyler Gordon out of Washington,
the teammate of Trent McDuffie, a projected first round pick.
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What's been the pre draft arc with Kyler Gordon? Felt
like everybody was extremely excited to see how he would test.
Didn't meet expectations, it feels like, and what kind of
player is he? And do you think that he's a
good fit for what the Jets offer from a schematic standpoint? Yeah,
And I think with with Kyler Gordon, he's you know,
average size, just under six ft ud pounds ran a
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four or five two at the combine, which you know,
a little uh it was a little bit of a
letdown based on the hype that kept hearing. And but
he goes to the Pro day stands on that four
or five two, did not run the forty again, but
the vertical thirty nine and a half short shuttle under
four seconds three cones six six seven, which is just unbelievable. Um,
I don't care what position. If you're under six, if
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you're under six seven, that's uh that that's that's pretty
remarkable time. Um. And he also put up twenty on
the bench. This is a guy that has physicality. Uh.
He's not a guy that's not afraid to, uh you know,
play with play with a little bit of power, a
little bit of strength to his game. So Kyler Gordon,
I think is a you know, coming from that Washington
scheme where they played a lot of zone uh you know,
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they played inside outside, They asked their corners to do
a lot of things. And so Kyler Gordon maybe not
as advanced as Trip McDuffie, uh is Washington teammate who
likely goes somewhere top twenty. Uh, you know, I think
there's still some areas of his game that he needs
to mature. But the fluidity that he plays with, the
toughness that he plays with, um, I think that that's
something that will appeal to the Jets and how he
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would fit their scheme. Alright, So the Jets address corner
in round two as opposed to pick number four, like
we talked about earlier, moving on to pick sixty nine
in the third round, you have the Jets addressing the
offensive side of the ball more interior. Luke getticky, So
what do you think also a central Michigan Guy teammate
and Bernard Raymond played with the Jets on the Senior Bowl,
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but didn't really play in Mobile right, he was he
was out of the lineup, And what do you think
he offers as a pro? Yeah, And I mean you
just had to look at uh Luke after he was
It was like the first practice and he had to
go to the locker room and he was in tears
because he was so excited to show what he could
do with the Senior Bowl and unfortunately, because of that
hamstring injury, wasn't able to go and he wasn't able
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to go at the Combine wasn't able to go at
the Pro day. Actually had to have a separate workout
that A lot of teams were represented at, including the
Jets to see him work out, and I was totally
had a really good workout that day. So a fascinating
backstory started. Uh, you know, kind of enrolled a Division
three school, UM and kind of just walked under the
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football team. After high school, bet On himself transferred up
to Central Michigan and uh, he moved from tight end
to offensive tackle, started at right tackle and says a nineteen,
then he missed all of with an injury, returned back
at right tackle and really put himself on the NFL
map UM because he does. He's not the longest player UM.
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A lot of teams I think they want to move
him inside guard or center, but I think he gives
you that position versatility where you think he could play center,
you think he played guard. UM. And so for a
guy like Luke GETTICKI he's maybe your long term center.
He's a guy that's gonna help you at guard, giving
you that depth and then in a pinch he could
kick out the tackle and give you some reps there,
so that that position flex is a big part of
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why I think Luke A. Decki is going to be
a Day two pick, possibly the Jets there in the
third round for a good Deckie year one, are you
hoping that he's like a just a versatile backup offensive
lineman if somebody gets nicked up here or there, that's
where he finds the field and then hopefully in year
two he projects as a potential starter. Yeah, I think
that's fair. I think he's a utility man. You know,
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he's your he's the the sixth offensive lineman, first guy
off off the bench there, and uh, it can do
a lot of things for you. We know how much
Joe Douglas wants to build on the offensive line, and
they've done a great job of that up to this point.
And they're not done obviously, and that shows in this draft,
to this this mock draft, I should say with Ikey
a four and then coming back here with an interior
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offensive lineman in the third round, a guy that gives
you starting potential on the interior center or guard, but
gives you that depth most importantly where he can fill
in where wherever's needed. Uh, if there's someone that goes
down with an injury, all right, so let's move on here.
Kirby Joseph safety out of Illinois. The Jets gave a
bit of a facelift to that safety group. You add
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Jordan Whitehead, you bring back LaMarcus Joyner. They have high
hopes for Jason Pennock moving from corner to safety, as
he did in his first season as a New York
Jet started a couple of games. But what does Kirby
Joseph add to that room and what is he like
as a prosper act range speed? Um, He was a
one year starter at Illinois, kind of a little bit
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off the radar, and uh, he was able to get
on the field as a senior this past year and
he just continued making plays. Five interceptions, a really long
player over thirty three inch arms and that shows I
mean they played him deep and so they let him.
They trusted him to beat that last line of defense
and use that speed, that range so he can make
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plays at either sideline. He could run the alley, make
plays as a tackler. So you look at the play speed,
you look at the ball skills. Uh that there's a
lot to like about Kirby Joseph as as an ascending player. UM,
I want to see him go a little bit stronger.
But he's a guy that's gonna help you on special teams.
He's a guy that's gonna compete for starting reps. UM.
I really do like him for the Jet scheme. What
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they'd like to do on defense, especially in that back half.
Is that mostly because of his speed or because of
the range or both both. And the reaction quickness that
he plays with I think really fits what they what
they ask of their safeties. UM. And I talked in
to Kirby. Uh. He credits his volleyball background for his
reaction quickness. He's a big volleyball player in high school. UM,
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which you know a lot of times we talk about, uh,
you know wrestlers with football players, former wrestlers or former
basketball players or you know, a lot of truck guys.
Kirby Joseph was a volleyball player, and so you know,
he he credits that sport as really helping develop that
those reflexes, the reaction quickness. And I think that's something
that the Jets really prioritize and what they're looking forward safety.
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All Right, So the Jets add back in the back
end of the secondary with their second pick of the
fourth round, six picks after one eleven. You have them
going back to the offense with a tight end, and
the Jets added a pair of tight ends in free agency.
In this scenario, they wait until round four they add
Charlie Koehler. All right, So with Charlie Kohler, what does
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he add that maybe the Jets don't have right now?
And with c j uzam On Tyler Conklin or does
this just simply a depth piece and in case somebody
gets hurt, he steps in and the drop off is seamless. Yeah,
I think he's more of a depth piece. Um. You know,
he's a guy that's not really going to threaten defenses vertically. Um,
even though he did run a four six to um
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and it's in the forty yard dashed the Pro day.
You don't see him as a guy as a seam
uh stretching type of tight end. But he's really good
and contested situations. Um, he's a guy that plays through contact. Uh.
Crowded catchpoints really don't face him all that much. So
a guy that can help you in the red zone. Um,
you know it needs to give a little bit better
as a blocker, but this is a high floor player,
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just the type of guy you want your depth chart,
really really smart, won the Academic Heisman this past year. Um,
so just you know, you don't know what you're getting
from an intelligence perspective, Uh, tough, smart, competitive, the type
of guy that I think this coaching staff and Joe
Joe Douglas would really like it the position. So what's
your argument? If you know, if you're talking to a jessman,
they're like, why are you taking Charlie Cohl? Or the
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Jets added cj Usama, they added Tyler Conklin, they have
Trayvon westco can you bow? The tight end room is
obviously more crowded down than it will be at the
time the regular season starts. But what is your argument
for taking what may seem like a luxury pick to
some Well, I mean, part of it is Charlie Cohler
is a a third or fourth round pick, and if
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he's still available at that second fourth rounder for the Jets,
the value I think is outstanding. So part of it
is the value. The second part of it is, uh,
you know, looking at tight end, obviously they wanted upgrade
that position, and they clearly did in free agency with
the two as they made um and I don't I
there's a chance they might not be done. I mean
there's a chance that they could look at a guy
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on day three that they you know, fill out the
rest of that room. Give someone that can step up
in case there is an injury, give them a long
term answer position. Charlie Cohler could be one of those
guys that are looking at in the in the fourth
fifth round range. All right, so the Jets have two
fifth round picks as well. It's with the first one
pick defensive tackle. Alright, the Jets lose fully photo Kasi
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in free agency now a member of the Jacksonville Jaguars.
You have the Jets adding Eric Johnson out of Missouri
State to plug the middle of that defense. What is
he like as a prospect and what do you expect
realistically from someone who is drafted in the fifth round
in year one? Yeah, this is my highest graded non
combined player, uh, and I think it's someone that really
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uh put him put himself uh in the draftable range
for teams with what he did the nflp A collegiable
and then what he did the Senior Bowl was really
uh an impressive player during those practices where blockers had
a tough time, you know, keeping him contained. He has
a really good movement skills for that size. He's six
four or three pounds. Um. You see the grip strength
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of his hands. Uh. He stays square with his engagement um.
And there's there there's a plan to what he's doing.
He's not just out there, uh, you know, throwing whatever
he can at at blockers. There's a thought process to
every single move that he's making so he can win
gaps um. And he's a guy that's still growing, still
still learning, and I think there's upside there as well.
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So six four three h pounds over thirty four inch
arms ran a four eight six at his pro day.
Tested really well. Let's have a numbers that I I
know this Jets front office uh is you know take
a note of so I would not be surprised if
the Jets are one of those teams in the fourth
fifth round that look at Eric Johnson and say, Okay,
this guy can you know, really help us in the
defensive line, be a death piece. But that also has
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some looking upside where you know, maybe down the road
he could compete for a starting job. Also something a
note that Jets did also draft defensive tackle last year,
only played a couple of games. Jonathan Marshall out of
Arkansas was the Jets final pick in two thousand twenty one.
And you know that Robert Saloon Joe Douglas always want
to add to the trenches. So I under I totally
understand what you're saying. I think it's a good pick,
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and I think they're all good picks for the record.
So this is how we're gonna wrap up this mock draft.
Going back to the offense, playmakers and production. Accelerate the
growth of Zach Willson. Accelerate this offense a little bit.
It's got to Missouri. We were just in Missouri State.
Let's stay there. Tyler Beatty alright, five eight one in
your draft guide, what do you like about the fit
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between Tyler Beatty and what the New York Jets want
to run. I mean, he just gives them a lot
of options. He's so good catching the ball out of
the backfield. Uh, He's a guy you want to get
in space because he's not the biggest. As you said,
he was under two h pounds, so he's not the
biggest um, but he can make guys miss Uh, he's
really really good in the screen game where he's going
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to create when he has the ball in his hands. So, uh,
you know a guy that rushed for over six yards
last year in the SEC. That's not easy to do.
So with Tyler Beatty, you see the balance, you see
field vision, um, the past catching treats. So I think
he could be the type of running back you're looking
for to, you know, kind of round out that running
back room, give you a little bit of versatility with
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what he brings on when he's on the football field. Uh,
and be just a nice compliment to uh, you know,
Carter and the rest of the guys that backfield. You know.
I just wanted to bring this up real quick. Last year.
So obviously the Jets and forty nine ers parallels. A
lot of people look at the forty niners what they do,
what the Jets do because of their coaching staff with
Robert Saloon, MICHAELA. Floor, So Elijah Mitchell last year's sixth
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round pick, his height and weight five ten, two hundred pounds.
Right now you have Beatty in the fifth round to
the Jets five eight one seven. So I just want
to draw the comparison here. Maybe not as players, but
that both teams enjoyed Day three running backs like Michael
Carter for the Jets. Last year, the Jets drafted la
Michael p Ryan in round four. Ty Johnson wasn't drafted
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by the Jets, but he was a six round pick
of the Detroit Lions. So what is it about the
Day three running back pick that you think is a
popular one for a scheme that the Jets have And
what do you think about the Beatty Mitchell comparison, if
there is one at all? Yeah, I know, I think
there you could drust some similar charities there. Um, and
I think it really comes down to, uh, understanding that
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the position is very very deep more years than not.
This year, especially in running backs, we'll see a few
come off the board. Uh, you know in the first
three rounds. You know, Breece Hall and Kenneth Walker and
maybe a few others. But if you wait till Day three,
you're gonna find some gems at the running back position.
We saw it last year, we saw the year before,
We'll see it again this year. And it's all about opportunity.
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You give the guy like Tyler Batty an opportunity. Uh,
he's going to be able to take the ball and
run with it. Uh, figurative, figuratively and literally. So I
mean it's uh, it's something also that you know, we
can draw connections with the Senior Bowl. Uh, you know
Kirby Joseph coached by the Jets and the Senior Bowl.
Uh with Tyler Beatty coached by the Jets in the
Senior Bowl. Charlie Cohler coached by the Jets and the
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Senior Bowl. So these guys have this team has a
little more knowledge about these players than maybe some other
teams do just because of that opportunity to coach down
in Mobile. All right, before I ask you some some
rapid fire questions about the draft overall, Is there a
pick in this mock draft that you like just it's
your favorite pick for the Jets, or you feel more
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confident about this pick compared to the other picks for
any reason that you choose. Um, it probably attend to
Jamaine Johnson. Um. I think that they really like Jermaine Johnson.
And again, it would not shock me at all if
they went that route and number four just because they
were afraid to lose them at number ten. Um, But
if they're able to get him at number ten. I
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think that might be the ideal scenario, regardless of you know,
if they go whoever they go at number four. If
you're able to Jermaine Johnson, uh defensive end who is
very stout first to run, give you some disruptive qualities
rushing off the edge, I think that's exactly what they're
looking for and the type of guy that I know
this coaching staff wants to coach. So I think Jermaine
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Johnson number ten definitely my favorite in terms of what
I think the Jets would love to see happened on
draft day. That is a wrap on a mock draft.
That's a beautiful mock draft. I think Jets fans would
be very excited about what you laid out for them.
So now we're gonna hit hit you with some general
draft questions and it could be rapid fire if you want.
You know, you could be a short. You know, you
got to preserve the voice. We talked about it, so
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you your answers could be just a single name. You
could put whatever reasoning you want behind it. If you choose,
totally up to you. So let's start with this. Where
does the two thousand twenty two NFL draft start in
your eyes. I one, I mean, it's it's kind of crazy.
We're forty eight hours from the draft, less than and
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we don't have a great feel for what the Jaguars
are gonna do. Um. And even if you believe that
whoever goes one will go to or whoever won't go
one will go to. So maybe we know the first
two picks, okay, then three if us uses a team
that is rebuilding from the ground up, literally, I think
besides quarterback, you know, any positions on the board for them,
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I think they you know, I I don't think they're
gonna go quarterback, but you never know. It's a corner
with Lovey Smith's scheme, that's possible there uh, someone somewhere
in the trenches where they want to go defensive end,
you want to go offensive line. So you know the
pick right in front of the Jets there at four
with the Texans. That's a big kind of pivot point
of the first round, especially the top ten. How about
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a guy who will be drafted earlier than most people expect. Um,
that's a good question. Um, I think that maybe Trevor Penning.
I think these offensive tackles are gonna go quickly. Um.
So you know, if let's just say we see an
offensive tackle go uh three to the Texans, four possibly
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the Jets. We could see one go five uh two
to the Giants, and then that's it scenario. Panthers we
know would love to draft left tackle. Do they take
a pass rush there at five or at six? Or
would they take Trevor Penning? So I think Trevor Penning
is gonna go a lot earlier than I think a
lot of uh, you know, the mock drafts have him
as uh, you know, a guy that's not gonna be
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off the board until seventeen or whatever. A chance Trevor
Penning is off the board, um the top ten as possible. Um,
I don't think he gets past Baltimore four tea. I
love it. Wow, Trevor Penning to the Ravens. That'd be that.
I think that tracks anyway. How about a guy same question,
but reverse, who's the guy that you think will be
drafted maybe a little later than most people expect. Um.
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I think that's uh and part of its part of
its injury. But Andrew booth and clumpson there's a chance
just because we haven't seen him, you know, corners, they
stop watch position, haven't seen him work out because of
the injuries that could knock come out of the first round. UM.
And then Tyler Linderbaum, it's you know, we've talked about him,
talked about him quite a bit, uh throughout the year
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as being this really awesome center prospect. But at the
same time, uh, he's a center only he schemes specific
and a lot of teams are just gonna be out
because of that lack of like a length that he has.
So I would not be surprised at all if Tyler
inner Ball uh falls out of the first round and
into Day two. And then you have to wonder, okay, eight,
with Jets having two picks early in the second round,
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could they be in the mix there for Tyler lendar
Baum if he would followed up far so UM, at
this point, it seems like Tylernerbaum has a real chance
to fall on defense. You know, George carl offt this
is is interesting because there's a lot of teams that
believe he's the second round pick, and obviously, all it
takes is one team to say, Okay, he know he's
he's worth a first round pick. But you know, obviously
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We're gonna see plenty of second round grades go in
the first round. There's not thirty two players great at
his first round players in this draft or most times so.
Karl Loftons still has a very good chance to go
in the first round. He plays the right position, he's
a good player. But I think it's also a realistic
scenario where he falls in the second round as well.
George carl Offtons feels like not a lot of people
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are talking about him right now. Definitely happy you brought
him up. The first wide receiver off the board is home.
M M. That's a good question. I think it'll be
one of those three guys in that top tier Wilson,
Drake London, Jamison Williams, and it could be as early
as eight to Atlanta. Um, right now, I'll guess that's
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Jamison Williams, uh coming off the A c L. I
think that he's a you know, the the speed is
special and that's what teams are looking for. And for
a team like Atlanta that's rebuilding and they don't need
a guy that's gonna step in from day one and
be the guy. They can afford to wait a little
bit on a Jameson Williams and they're gonna take their
top ranked receivers. So right now, I'll guess Jamison Williams
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and first quarterback off the board and under over pick
ten and a half that I'll definitely take the over
on that um, and I'll guess it's can you pick
it to the Steelers at twenty UM. I don't have
a great feel for it. Nobody that I talked to
in the NFL has a great feel for where these
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quarterbacks are gonna land. How how early do we see
a run? Um? If you let me, let me throw
one at you. Over under two and a half quarterbacks
in the first round, that is a great question whether
I feel like it. You said over under two and
a half in the top picks, which is tough because
you know, could we see maybe a few teams in
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the second round trade into the first just to get,
you know, get one of these guys. Maybe I don't
know what would your what would your guest? I think
my gut says no under because yeah under under day no, Yeah,
my gut would say under. Assuming that there's no like
Carolina picks six and they draft a quarterback and that
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drives up you know, somebody wanting to get somebody, whether
it's let's say Carolina takes Willis or Pikett, somebody else
takes the other one, and then another teams like I
don't want to wait till till day two to get
Desmon Ritter if that's the guy, and they want to
make sure they get their guy, or Corral or whomever.
I see that. I want to say under though, because
if you're saying that first pick is picked twenty, to me,
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that only leaves that you know, twelve teams, and a
lot of those teams are playoff can tenders that have
a quarterback. Now the one the one wild card to
me is Detroit. I pick thirty two and one. If
two guys have already been selected, that I could see
that being three. But right now, I feel like my
gut says under. Even though there is a there's a
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quarterback capital that maybe drives everything up. So that's how
I see it. You know, I I could be as
right or as wrong as anybody else, but my gut
says no, just based on what you and other evaluators
think of the quarterbacks as a whole. Yeah, and I
would agree with you. I think it's I think it's
under um and I think we see two quarterbacks go
in the first round. Maybe we see someone else sneak
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in there, but right now I will guess. I'll guess
the under This feels like, you know, it could be
a Lamar Jackson situation. Inen like at the eleventh hour,
the Ravens coming in pick thirty two and that's the Lions,
And I could see the Lions selecting a quarterback there
if they wanted to, but also if they wanted pick
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it or Willis, and they Willis, then you know that
that's your guy. Maybe you don't wait till thirty two
and you want to move up. It's gonna be fascinating
to see how what actually ends up happening, not only
a quarterback but the entire draft. My question to you is,
who's the freakiest athlete in this entire draft class. I
think I know who you're gonna say, and I think
it's your guy, but I just want to hear it.
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I gotta go Travonta Walker, And I'm guessing that's who
you thought I was gonna say. But Travon Walker, I
mean guys that are uh six five two seventy two
pounds and run a four or five one. It's not
just the four five one, Um, it's the one five
for ten yard that's really really impressive. That's top five
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in this class among edge rushers. So uh, you know,
it's for a guy that big to run that that
quick right out of the gate, so so impressive. Um,
And he's not just a linear athlete. Six eight ninth
three cone. That change of direction is is remarkable. The
length thirty five and a half. It arms. You can
understand why Travon Walker is being talked about as a
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potential number one overall pick when you look at the
trades and think about what he could grow into. Um,
is he a risky pick? Sure, I mean there's still
some upside there that is unrealized. There's a projection involved
with Travon Walker. But if you're gonna take a swing
on a on a guy that has ability, why not
take a swing on on a guy that's got the
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best natural ability, the best raw ability in the draft
and that Trevan Walker. Yeah, that is exactly who I
thought you were gonna say. Well, and that that is
you know, that's standing on your and I don't know
what the word is. I'm looking for it's escaped me.
But standing on your belief, let's go with that. That's
an easier way to say whatever I was thinking about it.
So anyway, you're sticking to your guns. Maybe that's what
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I was looking for. You're sticking to the guns at
the eleventh hour. I love it. One last question for you,
it's a fun one. Your favorite name in the two
thousand two NFL draft is what? There's a lot of
good ones. Um, I think I'm gonna go with Bear Hunter.
Uh center from app State. Of course he's a center
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from app State, right, So bear Hunter. I think that
that's that's my answer. He's my Uh let me see,
he was my like thirty six rink center and the draft.
Um so, uh yeah, that that would be my answer.
A lot of good ones though this year for sure,
bear Hunter. I mean, first of all, is it criminal
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or is it a good thing? That it's b A
E er not B D A R right exactly, So
it just gotta put his own spin on it, which
is kind of fun. I would love to see Bear
Hunter and Smoke Monday in the Oklahoma drill. What do
you think about That's it a lot of smoke Monday?
I think that's that's the favorite. You know that that's
the uh, you know, the I think the the easy answer, um,
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which is just you know, obviously an amazing name. Um,
but yeah, I gotta go. I gotta go with bear Hunter.
It's uh, you know, but there's a lot a lot
of names in this draft that are that are really
interesting and we should almost create like a bracket and
have people vote on it just to see, you know,
who who meets in the final four and who meets
for the who meets for the title. So this drafts
got some really good ones. Yeah, bear Hunter might be
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the champion, but I would I would also like to
see a a bracket, you know now that I'm looking
at where bear Hunter is ranked in your draft guide
A couple names earlier. I don't even know how to
say this guy's name, but I'm gonna give it a go.
It's a lot of vowels, you ready, yea news Kio
bound him that Oregon State? Yeah, pretty close. Yeah, I
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mean it wasn't better, not better than I would have done,
or uh it probably was. No, I mean sorry, it
was probably better than I would have done. So yeah,
I know, I think that that's pretty spot on. Okay, alright,
well Bear Hunter it is. And that's how we wrap
up the pre Dre Halft final episode of NFL Draft Preview.
Remember we're gonna have a review after the draft. Dank,
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thanks a lot. We'll talk to you next week, all right,
thanks either