September 17, 2025 • 21 mins
This week on Jordan & Jake, the guys recap the week 2 loss to Arizona, highlight the bright spots they saw on Sunday, identify ways in which this Panthers team can improve, look ahead to this weekend's home opener against the Falcons, and so much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wow, Jordan and Jake. I'll go good. I'm excited, ready
to go the home stops.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
He throws at a crossfield. Guess who, George Gross.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Here are your Panther Hall of Honor members Jordan Gross
and Jake Delome.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Jake, Diloone, Jordan Gross, the Jordan's Jake Podcast Jake. Today
is September seventeenth when we're recording this a happy FFA workday,
Jake Well saying to you, Jordan, FFA Future Farmers of America.
Are you familiar with this? Yes? I am. Yeah. It's
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a high school program nationwide. Some places are more into
it than others. Soccer Fruitland, Idaho happened to be quite
into FFA. So today is the work day where you
go out and you earn your FFA fees by doing
some job, preferably in an agricultural field. So my daughter
Rainey and I are spending the day outside of this
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podcast recording doing stuff around our property, trim and trees,
moving water. We get to pick some potatoes later, just
all that kind of stuff. So I just thought you
might enjoy knowing what was going on with me.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Well, I think it's awesome, and I think it's great
you're doing it with your daughter, Rainy who it sounds like,
you know, she might be into everything.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
She might be one of those which I think is great.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Well, you live in a small town that you kind
of got to do everything because those are your only options. Well,
you know, like if you live in a city, it'd
be like, hey, I could go to a music festival here.
FFA workday almost as good, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
But I think you get I think you get more
out of the FFA work.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
You'll be quite honest. But it is good quality work
time together. And I had some quality time with you
this last weekend. Buddy, thoroughly enjoyed the face to face
fellowship and a pretty good game. We got to watch Jake,
but we had sponsored dinner. You and I just I mean,
what a good weekend. And the panther at halftime, I
was thinking to myself, okay, twenty to three, I mean,
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what are we doing here? We're getting our snack. We
talked to Darren Gant out there at the media in
the media press box, but the second half came alive.
Jake just ended up, in my opinion, being a positive
weekend all things considered, But lots of things to definitely
discuss Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Jordan, I just think for the second week in a row,
we just we put ourselves in such a hole that
we don't even know what our game plans look like,
to be honest, you know, we have some first half
stuff and then but we're in such a hole due
to kind of turnovers, and then the second half we
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become this one dimensional team. So I'd love to see
our running game get gone because that's what I think
we wanted to try to hang our hat on, but
we really haven't been able to do that. And then
we took a major blow with a couple of starting
offensive linemen being out for looks like an extended period
of time. So you know, it's a it's tough starting
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out oing to love, love the fight and the resilience
of this football team and coming back and continue to
battle to give ourselves a chance. I mean, I don't
think it's been talked about nearly enough. Recovering an on
side kick. The percentage of recoveries is extremely low, So
to be able to do that to give ourselves a chance,
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and it looked like we just kind of ran out
of gas a little bit, to be quite honest, because
throwing it fifty five times, those poor receivers and those linemen,
and you can attest to that. It's a whole lot
different firing out on the run block than at this
setting on a pass set and catching some of these
big d linemen.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Jake, I want to talk right off the bat, you
hit it. The i R situation with the O line
man was that it was in the same drive, wasn't it.
I mean, I know it was both fourth quarter? Was
it same drive? We lost Hunt and then Corbett. I
think it was either yeah, it was either two drives
back to back or whatever Hunt goes out we talked
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about on the radio. Here comes the Bala. Immediately Kileus
Campbell lines up over him. They run some twist games,
there's pressure, and then you see Corbett down on the ground.
In comes Cad Mays. I don't think I've ever been
a part of that, Jake. To lose two linemen in
this like even in the same game is rare, but
they have it back to back like that, and just
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like as good of luck as the on side kick was,
that's the equal bad luck. I mean, I think we
said it on the air, five percent chance to recover
an onside kick. I mean it's it's gotta be less
than that to lose two starting offensive linemen back to
back like that, So, I mean, what could have happened?
That's the game I've been playing these last few days
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since the game. If we would have had our starting line.
I have a lot of faith in Cade Mays. He's
played a lot for US at center. Zabala has had
some reps, not as much a younger player. But you know, like,
would the game, would it still have ended on a sack?
Would there have been as much pressure on that last drive? Man?
I don't know, and just it's gonna be hard. I
was listening to Panther talking. The guys were asking coach
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Canalis about, Yeah, so you feel good about Kid? Made
you feel good about Zabala? Sure? If you know they're
not starters, or they would have been from the beginning.
But now your backup, which was depth that we've I've
been applauding. I told Danbourg before the game, I said, man,
I just am so impressed with how you were able
to keep everybody but together and have that depth. That's
so great. I think I jinxed the team because now
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our depth had to bring in a guy off of
another practice squad sign him to our active roster. So
that's gonna hurt Jake. And yeah, yeah, a lot of
fight in that game. Sure. I at the end of
the game said how impressed I was with Bryce to
start off with a fumble for a touchdown, then an interception,
Man like, if you if you have any self doubt
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going on, that could have just reared it's ugly head.
Whole game. He ended up having a career day for attemps, completions, yards,
and tight his career high with three touchdowns. So I
was impressed with that young man and a really pressure game.
And then T Mac, you and I both were having
a ton of fun just watching him in this game.
He ended up going for one hundred yards. He's up
for Rookie of the Week, so make sure you can
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vote for him. But there are bright spots, Jake, and
I'm gonna focus on that.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I agree with you, Jordan.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
I think listen the whole I think a lot of
the rookies, and I'm gonna start there. I think T Mac,
I think we've all seen Jordan. It's it's effortless when
he catches the football. He snagged it out the air.
I thought one of his better plays the other day
was the third down play and it was a couple
of yards shot in the first down.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
He caught it.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
He took a step to the inside and then Whirley
burn out to the outside and the cornerback wift and
was able to get the first and he just it's
extremely easy and when he catches the football, and I
think Bryce is a connection there already. You know, Nick
Spordan was able to be in play a little bit.
I think Princeville had his first sack. He can close
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to the quarterback. That's something that I was very impressed with.
Even Etn It's pretty easy when he catches the ball
when he fields these kicks on the kickoff returns, and
he's got great natural contact balance and things like that.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
And made a nice play. And Bryce threw them the
ball one time.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
And then Latham Lathan Ransom. I thought his tackles, there's
an intentness when he tackles.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
It's a it's a thump, it's a grab and put
to the ground immediately. I believe Mitchell Evans had to
catch his first catch.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
So that was always that was nice. So we're getting
some production. In my opinion, out of these guys and
just we're gonna need them to continue to step up
and to hit the old line situation. I feel good
about Kade Mays. He's played center. He's a big body
for us. You know, you never want to lose Corbs,
Austin Corb, but he's such a leader and things like that.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
But I feel good about kid coming in. It's the vallid.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
This is a big opportunity for him and he's battled
some injuries. Because Robert Hunt, he's a difference maker. I
mean this a big, large man that can move well
because he brings the energy, he brings juice, and he
brings some thump to the offensive line. So that's gonna
be an area where hopefully Zabola can grow as much
as he can as a player this year because he's
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had some injuries.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
We drafted him, I believe the fourth.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Round out of NC State, So you know that's that's
something you'd like to see some progress there.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Well, it just to lose in the line last year
is Derek Brown right like right off the bat boom.
He's out for the year. And now we haven't been
to my knowledge, we haven't officially declared either one of
these guys out for the year, but a torn ruptured bicep,
that's a year deal. Man like I would be shocked
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if he comes back. I don't know yet about Korb's knee,
but yeah, just I mean unfortunate man to put more
pressure on Bryce right off the bat. Leg Yet, that's
the guy we talked about during the broadcast, Jake, he
had eight targets. Now, I don't think all those were
like catchable balls, you know, we mentioned that on the air.
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I was I continue to be to be really to
really respect coach Canalis because his messaging does not change
his coming out being oning to like when you listen
to him on his presser or panther talks. It doesn't
seem to be like any doubt in his process and
how you do things. And I liked it. He stood
up for Lega said, I believe in this guy, and
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just he needs to keep grinding and good things will
come his way. After having a little bit of time
to think about that receiver position, Jake, what do you
think about Excel?
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Yeah, Jordan, I'm one that I expected a big jump
from him in year two, to be very honest, because
we saw flashes last year I know he had an
offseason what foot surgery. I believe he battled a risk
injury last year. But you saw flashes of a big,
big strong man who was fast right, and we just
haven't seen it so far now in his Vince. I
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think the Jacksonville game he needed to get on the
corner out.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
He needed to drag that other foot. It's very simple.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
And then I don't know what happened on the miscommunication
in the Jacksonville game on our fourth down play inside
the ten yard line, but to go into this game,
we tried to get him the ball early.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
We tried to get a speed suite.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
We didn't block the in man on the line of
scrimmage and he had to belly it out. He did
a good job of getting two yards because it should
have been a loss. And then we tried to quick
screen rip him, but the ball was behind him so
he had to turn away from the line of scrimmage,
so it.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Really couldn't freeze that.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
And then in the game a couple did bounce in
front of him, and there was a couple that there
was sticky coverage. He just couldn't separate and the dB
made a play. We did try to go to him
on the two minute drive late in the game, Jordan,
he was the number three receiver inside on a nod move,
on a double move, and he was wide open and
Bryce was throwing it. He Bryce had pushed the guard,
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got pushed back into Bryce's lap, and the ball got
batted down when he went to throw it. So you know,
that would have been an opportunity. So yeah, I like you,
I still think there's something there. I'm like Canalys, I'm
not giving up on the guy. We're gonna need him
at some point in this season. And you just sometimes
there's just one catch, right, one catch, and next thing
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you know, something happened, something clicked. So yeah, but you
get since there's maybe a little frustration because I thought
we would.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Have seen more out of him.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Isn't it weird. I've never been a receiver, obviously, I've
never been a quarterback. But as an offensive lineman, you
have times when you just feel as if everything is
easy and smooth. Your past sets, your footwork, your body
feels good, You're understanding the play structure, your assignments. For me,
like anticipating the snap count. You know, we've had fun
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in the past about off sides or whatever. But there's
times when you're in the groove, you're in the done
whatever that is, and then there's times when you're not.
Man it's the same body, the same technique. It doesn't
feel good. It feels like you're clung, you're over analyzing everything. Jake,
what and I'm not. I don't know, Xcel, I've never talked.
I didn't talk to him. I'm just talking about, for instance,
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if you're if you're not having the production you want, like,
how do you what's the process to get back on track,
to get on track, to get out of a punk.
If you're a quarterback and you know things aren't going right,
how did you correct that? Jake?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
In your career, well, I think.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
The biggest thing, Jordan, and there comes moments and times
where you want to get in rhythm right. And I know,
especially when Dan Henning was our offensive coordinator, I thought
he was fabulous at this. You know, as the game
plan went along during the week, you build your game
plan up from first and second down passes and runs
and things of the in screens on Wednesday, and then
the third down in red area gets introduced and you
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practice that on Thursday to kind of everything on Friday
with shorty origin goal line in a two minute.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
So you build it up right and you feel comfortable.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
But Dan Hinting always made me I had to highlight
in every area of the game plan my first and
I can play that I like the most, and so
I would do that, and then on the back of
the game plan, he would want me to write down
six pass plays that I felt I could compete complete
without any questions asked. It didn't matter what coverage, whatever
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it may be. And if ever I was out of rhythm,
he'd start calling those pass plays. He'd go down the
list and he could kind of get you back, jump
you back into rhythm. And that's something that you know,
I think that can be done sometimes with a player
to get them back going. I don't know if with
the old line, Hey, this is a play that we
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run well, we know how to run it. We can
make adjustments on the fly for defense, will stem late
or move late or whatever look we get from the
defensive front and things of that nature. But that was
something that I always felt very comfortable in that there
was a time where just kind of wasn't seeing it
the best for whatever reason.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
And it seemed like that's what Canals is trying to
do early in the game. But let that threw him
that little game, you know, the fly sweep. They gave
them that quick throw out there. So now to your point,
a big old body man, strong kid and excited with
what t Max done, and I think XL comes along,
that's gonna be a pretty impressive young situation for our
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quarterback and our receivers. There. Uh, we're we're oh and
to Jake, there's ten teams that are owing to right now.
Some of the surprising ones the Chiefs are in there, Texans,
you know, the other one the Titans, you know, with
the rookie quarterback. Maybe not a surprise there. Dolphins has
had some issues going on. The Saints, another division opponent,
are owing two Falcons we're playing next week, or one
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on one in the Bucks or two and oh. So
this is the time of year, fourth year in a row, Jake,
that we've been oh and two, which is, you know,
something that we've kind of gotten used to. But two
and oh, oh and two this part of the year,
you can say, there's all things to say that, hey,
we're only you know, a couple of games away. We
could get back in the hunt quickly. Oh and two
okay is the hey, we can live with this? Oh
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and three? Ooh, Jake, one and two? All right, now,
we're only one game away from five hundreds. So this
coming for a home opener against the Falcons with an
incredible running back in Robinson and Pennix, you know, still
kind of finding his identity. But pretty pivotal game for US.
Jake at Bank of America Stadium this weekend.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Yeah, I think so, Jordan and one because it's division
and it's Atlanta, and I saw great when we left
the Atlanta Stadium in early January last year, watching his
drop a forty piece on him and watching Bryce, I
think what threw for three maybe ran for two and
just kind of watch just make plays. And I just
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think defensively, we're so much better just due to the
sheer fact of the personnel that we have. But Atlanta
had a big win last Sunday night on the road
in Minnesota. They feel good about some of their young
draft picks, as do we, and the second year quarterback
and Michael Pennix they feel good about.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
They have a phenomenal running back. I think he's one
of the top ten players at any position in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
I think this guy is a freak show.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
But Jhon Robinson a really good receiver in Drake London.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
So yeah, it's a huge game for us, and it's
back to home and I think the biggest.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Thing We've got to start fast. That's where we killed
ourselves in the last two games. We've got to come
out and start fast. Be it getting to stop on defense,
our offensively, get a drive, get points. Can't turn the
ball over. That's been so critical in our first two games.
You don't give yourself a chance to win if you
turn it over.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
And we're not that team that we're not good enough
to turn the ball over and overcome that.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Right now, we're just not there yet.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
So we do you if you're a if you're a
Panther fan, you're going to Banko Merrick Stadium this weekend, Jake,
what's your ask for our Panther fans? Right? Like, so
everybody's holding their breath right now? What are we going
to be? What's gonna happen here? And the Falcons they
travel well, Jake, They're not a team that historically like
would take over and away stadium. But there's gonna be
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a lot of Falcon fans in there are Panther fans,
I would I would guess some of them are deciding
right now, all right, what are we why are we
in ay out? What what are we going to do
here with the team this year? So what's your ask
for Panther fans coming to the stadium to watch this game?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Well, there's come and be ready to be loud, right.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
And this hopefully we can answer the bell on offense
and defense and special teams, and let's get them into
the game. Let's give them something to scream and holler
and cheer about, because I mean, we don't like Atlanta.
I mean like that's a professional hatred, right, That's a
division opponent, and we're searching for our first win. So
you know, there's a ton of optimism going into the
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season that you would hear kind of in the Charlotte
area and things of that nature. And I think the
biggest thing for us, and I said it before the season,
I want to see continued growth from this football team.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I don't think we've seen it yet.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
I thought defense played a lot better last week. I
put in a bad.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Situation, but for the most part, really played some decent
football last weekend. Offensively, you know, it's a turnover issue
that's biting us because we haven't had a chance to
get our run game going, and that's what we want
to hang our hat on. I think we have some
players that have showed up and they're the consistent selves.
So just come out, be ready to be allowed, and
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let's hope we can give them something to be loud about.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
You're in the booth. Is Luke back in the booth
with you?
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yes, sir, he is back in the booth, and so
I know he's chomping at the bit like I am
for us to kind of get in the win column
and get going. Let's get try to get some momental
moving in the right direction.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
After our first.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Game together, Jay, give me the scouting report. Differences between
having Luke to your right and myself. I mean, I
know I'm better, but just you know, break it down.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
There's no doubt listen all jokes aside. I think Luke is,
and especially sitting next to him, I have the visual
I can kind of see out the corner of my
eye just watching him diagnose an offense and watching you know,
from shifts in motion and things of that nature, just
the technical aspect of playing defense, and that's where he's
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just he sees it so fast. He sees offensive line
play on like pinn and pull play or gap scheme
or zone because that was his reads, that was his
eyes at all time. And I think just with you,
you pick up so many things on the offensive line.
Like on one of the sacks the other day, you
in essence, you were very upset in the booth. You
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were like, hey, we've got to pass that off. That
is not They should not have had a free runner
at the quarterback. And that's something that I think is
so it's fun when you sit with an offensive lineman
because you know what was supposed to be done here
where a hand was supposed to be posted. It should
have been passed off between two offensive linemen with a
game from the defensive line. So that's kind of the
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you know what, I like enjoy from both.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Of those sides.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
As I sat there next to you, I'm going to
tell you the truth sometimes I like, I don't really
want to say anythings. I want to hear what Jake
has to say because looking around, like when you're when
you're talking, you're grabbing a niche or me. You're looking
side to side like with that Jake DeLoone intensity, man,
it was. It was a great time for sure. Hey,
you know we talked about it during the game that
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we I spotted Ikey puking right before the play. We
were able to confirm that afterwards. Jake, you were with
me down in the player family area. He said, yes,
I did puke. And I said, did it keep the
defensive end from rushing you? He said yeah. Man, he
stopped halfway through and said, ew, so it is a
new technique to be utilized for every offensive lineman listening.
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It is.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
He was walking and I said, hey, did you puke?
And he said twice? And he said I felt so
much better after. You know, you know, just think about it.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
And you missed I.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Mean hit an appendect toy, I mean missed a couple
of weeks and and all the plays in past setting.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
I don't think people understand.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
What's it like, you're just past setting the whole second half.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
It is so difficult.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Yeah, enough to make a guy puke. Cool. Let's hope
he doesn't do any of that in Charlotte this weekend.
It goes smooth, man, I'm I'm gonna miss being there.
Had a great time seeing you, but have fun with
everybody out there, and uh tell everybody hi. I'll talk
to you next week.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
But sounds good.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Good luck this week
Wow, Jordan and Jake. I'll go good. I'm excited, ready
to go the home stops.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
He throws at a crossfield. Guess who, George Gross.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Here are your Panther Hall of Honor members Jordan Gross
and Jake Delome.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Jake, Diloone, Jordan Gross, the Jordan's Jake Podcast Jake. Today
is September seventeenth when we're recording this a happy FFA workday,
Jake Well saying to you, Jordan, FFA Future Farmers of America.
Are you familiar with this? Yes? I am. Yeah. It's
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a high school program nationwide. Some places are more into
it than others. Soccer Fruitland, Idaho happened to be quite
into FFA. So today is the work day where you
go out and you earn your FFA fees by doing
some job, preferably in an agricultural field. So my daughter
Rainey and I are spending the day outside of this
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podcast recording doing stuff around our property, trim and trees,
moving water. We get to pick some potatoes later, just
all that kind of stuff. So I just thought you
might enjoy knowing what was going on with me.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Well, I think it's awesome, and I think it's great
you're doing it with your daughter, Rainy who it sounds like,
you know, she might be into everything.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
She might be one of those which I think is great.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Well, you live in a small town that you kind
of got to do everything because those are your only options. Well,
you know, like if you live in a city, it'd
be like, hey, I could go to a music festival here.
FFA workday almost as good, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
But I think you get I think you get more
out of the FFA work.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
You'll be quite honest. But it is good quality work
time together. And I had some quality time with you
this last weekend. Buddy, thoroughly enjoyed the face to face
fellowship and a pretty good game. We got to watch Jake,
but we had sponsored dinner. You and I just I mean,
what a good weekend. And the panther at halftime, I
was thinking to myself, okay, twenty to three, I mean,
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what are we doing here? We're getting our snack. We
talked to Darren Gant out there at the media in
the media press box, but the second half came alive.
Jake just ended up, in my opinion, being a positive
weekend all things considered, But lots of things to definitely
discuss Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Jordan, I just think for the second week in a row,
we just we put ourselves in such a hole that
we don't even know what our game plans look like,
to be honest, you know, we have some first half
stuff and then but we're in such a hole due
to kind of turnovers, and then the second half we
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become this one dimensional team. So I'd love to see
our running game get gone because that's what I think
we wanted to try to hang our hat on, but
we really haven't been able to do that. And then
we took a major blow with a couple of starting
offensive linemen being out for looks like an extended period
of time. So you know, it's a it's tough starting
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out oing to love, love the fight and the resilience
of this football team and coming back and continue to
battle to give ourselves a chance. I mean, I don't
think it's been talked about nearly enough. Recovering an on
side kick. The percentage of recoveries is extremely low, So
to be able to do that to give ourselves a chance,
(03:24):
and it looked like we just kind of ran out
of gas a little bit, to be quite honest, because
throwing it fifty five times, those poor receivers and those linemen,
and you can attest to that. It's a whole lot
different firing out on the run block than at this
setting on a pass set and catching some of these
big d linemen.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Jake, I want to talk right off the bat, you
hit it. The i R situation with the O line
man was that it was in the same drive, wasn't it.
I mean, I know it was both fourth quarter? Was
it same drive? We lost Hunt and then Corbett. I
think it was either yeah, it was either two drives
back to back or whatever Hunt goes out we talked
(04:04):
about on the radio. Here comes the Bala. Immediately Kileus
Campbell lines up over him. They run some twist games,
there's pressure, and then you see Corbett down on the ground.
In comes Cad Mays. I don't think I've ever been
a part of that, Jake. To lose two linemen in
this like even in the same game is rare, but
they have it back to back like that, and just
(04:27):
like as good of luck as the on side kick was,
that's the equal bad luck. I mean, I think we
said it on the air, five percent chance to recover
an onside kick. I mean it's it's gotta be less
than that to lose two starting offensive linemen back to
back like that, So, I mean, what could have happened?
That's the game I've been playing these last few days
(04:48):
since the game. If we would have had our starting line.
I have a lot of faith in Cade Mays. He's
played a lot for US at center. Zabala has had
some reps, not as much a younger player. But you know, like,
would the game, would it still have ended on a sack?
Would there have been as much pressure on that last drive? Man?
I don't know, and just it's gonna be hard. I
was listening to Panther talking. The guys were asking coach
(05:13):
Canalis about, Yeah, so you feel good about Kid? Made
you feel good about Zabala? Sure? If you know they're
not starters, or they would have been from the beginning.
But now your backup, which was depth that we've I've
been applauding. I told Danbourg before the game, I said, man,
I just am so impressed with how you were able
to keep everybody but together and have that depth. That's
so great. I think I jinxed the team because now
(05:35):
our depth had to bring in a guy off of
another practice squad sign him to our active roster. So
that's gonna hurt Jake. And yeah, yeah, a lot of
fight in that game. Sure. I at the end of
the game said how impressed I was with Bryce to
start off with a fumble for a touchdown, then an interception,
Man like, if you if you have any self doubt
(05:57):
going on, that could have just reared it's ugly head.
Whole game. He ended up having a career day for attemps, completions, yards,
and tight his career high with three touchdowns. So I
was impressed with that young man and a really pressure game.
And then T Mac, you and I both were having
a ton of fun just watching him in this game.
He ended up going for one hundred yards. He's up
for Rookie of the Week, so make sure you can
(06:18):
vote for him. But there are bright spots, Jake, and
I'm gonna focus on that.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I agree with you, Jordan.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
I think listen the whole I think a lot of
the rookies, and I'm gonna start there. I think T Mac,
I think we've all seen Jordan. It's it's effortless when
he catches the football. He snagged it out the air.
I thought one of his better plays the other day
was the third down play and it was a couple
of yards shot in the first down.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
He caught it.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
He took a step to the inside and then Whirley
burn out to the outside and the cornerback wift and
was able to get the first and he just it's
extremely easy and when he catches the football, and I
think Bryce is a connection there already. You know, Nick
Spordan was able to be in play a little bit.
I think Princeville had his first sack. He can close
(07:02):
to the quarterback. That's something that I was very impressed with.
Even Etn It's pretty easy when he catches the ball
when he fields these kicks on the kickoff returns, and
he's got great natural contact balance and things like that.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
And made a nice play. And Bryce threw them the
ball one time.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
And then Latham Lathan Ransom. I thought his tackles, there's
an intentness when he tackles.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
It's a it's a thump, it's a grab and put
to the ground immediately. I believe Mitchell Evans had to
catch his first catch.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
So that was always that was nice. So we're getting
some production. In my opinion, out of these guys and
just we're gonna need them to continue to step up
and to hit the old line situation. I feel good
about Kade Mays. He's played center. He's a big body
for us. You know, you never want to lose Corbs,
Austin Corb, but he's such a leader and things like that.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
But I feel good about kid coming in. It's the vallid.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
This is a big opportunity for him and he's battled
some injuries. Because Robert Hunt, he's a difference maker. I
mean this a big, large man that can move well
because he brings the energy, he brings juice, and he
brings some thump to the offensive line. So that's gonna
be an area where hopefully Zabola can grow as much
as he can as a player this year because he's
(08:20):
had some injuries.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
We drafted him, I believe the fourth.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Round out of NC State, So you know that's that's
something you'd like to see some progress there.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Well, it just to lose in the line last year
is Derek Brown right like right off the bat boom.
He's out for the year. And now we haven't been
to my knowledge, we haven't officially declared either one of
these guys out for the year, but a torn ruptured bicep,
that's a year deal. Man like I would be shocked
(08:49):
if he comes back. I don't know yet about Korb's knee,
but yeah, just I mean unfortunate man to put more
pressure on Bryce right off the bat. Leg Yet, that's
the guy we talked about during the broadcast, Jake, he
had eight targets. Now, I don't think all those were
like catchable balls, you know, we mentioned that on the air.
(09:09):
I was I continue to be to be really to
really respect coach Canalis because his messaging does not change
his coming out being oning to like when you listen
to him on his presser or panther talks. It doesn't
seem to be like any doubt in his process and
how you do things. And I liked it. He stood
up for Lega said, I believe in this guy, and
(09:30):
just he needs to keep grinding and good things will
come his way. After having a little bit of time
to think about that receiver position, Jake, what do you
think about Excel?
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Yeah, Jordan, I'm one that I expected a big jump
from him in year two, to be very honest, because
we saw flashes last year I know he had an
offseason what foot surgery. I believe he battled a risk
injury last year. But you saw flashes of a big,
big strong man who was fast right, and we just
haven't seen it so far now in his Vince. I
(10:01):
think the Jacksonville game he needed to get on the
corner out.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
He needed to drag that other foot. It's very simple.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
And then I don't know what happened on the miscommunication
in the Jacksonville game on our fourth down play inside
the ten yard line, but to go into this game,
we tried to get him the ball early.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
We tried to get a speed suite.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
We didn't block the in man on the line of
scrimmage and he had to belly it out. He did
a good job of getting two yards because it should
have been a loss. And then we tried to quick
screen rip him, but the ball was behind him so
he had to turn away from the line of scrimmage,
so it.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Really couldn't freeze that.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
And then in the game a couple did bounce in
front of him, and there was a couple that there
was sticky coverage. He just couldn't separate and the dB
made a play. We did try to go to him
on the two minute drive late in the game, Jordan,
he was the number three receiver inside on a nod move,
on a double move, and he was wide open and
Bryce was throwing it. He Bryce had pushed the guard,
(10:54):
got pushed back into Bryce's lap, and the ball got
batted down when he went to throw it. So you know,
that would have been an opportunity. So yeah, I like you,
I still think there's something there. I'm like Canalys, I'm
not giving up on the guy. We're gonna need him
at some point in this season. And you just sometimes
there's just one catch, right, one catch, and next thing
(11:17):
you know, something happened, something clicked. So yeah, but you
get since there's maybe a little frustration because I thought
we would.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Have seen more out of him.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Isn't it weird. I've never been a receiver, obviously, I've
never been a quarterback. But as an offensive lineman, you
have times when you just feel as if everything is
easy and smooth. Your past sets, your footwork, your body
feels good, You're understanding the play structure, your assignments. For me,
like anticipating the snap count. You know, we've had fun
(11:46):
in the past about off sides or whatever. But there's
times when you're in the groove, you're in the done
whatever that is, and then there's times when you're not.
Man it's the same body, the same technique. It doesn't
feel good. It feels like you're clung, you're over analyzing everything. Jake,
what and I'm not. I don't know, Xcel, I've never talked.
I didn't talk to him. I'm just talking about, for instance,
(12:08):
if you're if you're not having the production you want, like,
how do you what's the process to get back on track,
to get on track, to get out of a punk.
If you're a quarterback and you know things aren't going right,
how did you correct that? Jake?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
In your career, well, I think.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
The biggest thing, Jordan, and there comes moments and times
where you want to get in rhythm right. And I know,
especially when Dan Henning was our offensive coordinator, I thought
he was fabulous at this. You know, as the game
plan went along during the week, you build your game
plan up from first and second down passes and runs
and things of the in screens on Wednesday, and then
the third down in red area gets introduced and you
(12:45):
practice that on Thursday to kind of everything on Friday
with shorty origin goal line in a two minute.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
So you build it up right and you feel comfortable.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
But Dan Hinting always made me I had to highlight
in every area of the game plan my first and
I can play that I like the most, and so
I would do that, and then on the back of
the game plan, he would want me to write down
six pass plays that I felt I could compete complete
without any questions asked. It didn't matter what coverage, whatever
(13:15):
it may be. And if ever I was out of rhythm,
he'd start calling those pass plays. He'd go down the
list and he could kind of get you back, jump
you back into rhythm. And that's something that you know,
I think that can be done sometimes with a player
to get them back going. I don't know if with
the old line, Hey, this is a play that we
(13:36):
run well, we know how to run it. We can
make adjustments on the fly for defense, will stem late
or move late or whatever look we get from the
defensive front and things of that nature. But that was
something that I always felt very comfortable in that there
was a time where just kind of wasn't seeing it
the best for whatever reason.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
And it seemed like that's what Canals is trying to
do early in the game. But let that threw him
that little game, you know, the fly sweep. They gave
them that quick throw out there. So now to your point,
a big old body man, strong kid and excited with
what t Max done, and I think XL comes along,
that's gonna be a pretty impressive young situation for our
(14:14):
quarterback and our receivers. There. Uh, we're we're oh and
to Jake, there's ten teams that are owing to right now.
Some of the surprising ones the Chiefs are in there, Texans,
you know, the other one the Titans, you know, with
the rookie quarterback. Maybe not a surprise there. Dolphins has
had some issues going on. The Saints, another division opponent,
are owing two Falcons we're playing next week, or one
(14:35):
on one in the Bucks or two and oh. So
this is the time of year, fourth year in a row, Jake,
that we've been oh and two, which is, you know,
something that we've kind of gotten used to. But two
and oh, oh and two this part of the year,
you can say, there's all things to say that, hey,
we're only you know, a couple of games away. We
could get back in the hunt quickly. Oh and two
okay is the hey, we can live with this? Oh
(14:58):
and three? Ooh, Jake, one and two? All right, now,
we're only one game away from five hundreds. So this
coming for a home opener against the Falcons with an
incredible running back in Robinson and Pennix, you know, still
kind of finding his identity. But pretty pivotal game for US.
Jake at Bank of America Stadium this weekend.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Yeah, I think so, Jordan and one because it's division
and it's Atlanta, and I saw great when we left
the Atlanta Stadium in early January last year, watching his
drop a forty piece on him and watching Bryce, I
think what threw for three maybe ran for two and
just kind of watch just make plays. And I just
(15:38):
think defensively, we're so much better just due to the
sheer fact of the personnel that we have. But Atlanta
had a big win last Sunday night on the road
in Minnesota. They feel good about some of their young
draft picks, as do we, and the second year quarterback
and Michael Pennix they feel good about.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
They have a phenomenal running back. I think he's one
of the top ten players at any position in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
I think this guy is a freak show.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
But Jhon Robinson a really good receiver in Drake London.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
So yeah, it's a huge game for us, and it's
back to home and I think the biggest.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Thing We've got to start fast. That's where we killed
ourselves in the last two games. We've got to come
out and start fast. Be it getting to stop on defense,
our offensively, get a drive, get points. Can't turn the
ball over. That's been so critical in our first two games.
You don't give yourself a chance to win if you
turn it over.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
And we're not that team that we're not good enough
to turn the ball over and overcome that.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Right now, we're just not there yet.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
So we do you if you're a if you're a
Panther fan, you're going to Banko Merrick Stadium this weekend, Jake,
what's your ask for our Panther fans? Right? Like, so
everybody's holding their breath right now? What are we going
to be? What's gonna happen here? And the Falcons they
travel well, Jake, They're not a team that historically like
would take over and away stadium. But there's gonna be
(16:59):
a lot of Falcon fans in there are Panther fans,
I would I would guess some of them are deciding
right now, all right, what are we why are we
in ay out? What what are we going to do
here with the team this year? So what's your ask
for Panther fans coming to the stadium to watch this game?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Well, there's come and be ready to be loud, right.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
And this hopefully we can answer the bell on offense
and defense and special teams, and let's get them into
the game. Let's give them something to scream and holler
and cheer about, because I mean, we don't like Atlanta.
I mean like that's a professional hatred, right, That's a
division opponent, and we're searching for our first win. So
you know, there's a ton of optimism going into the
(17:40):
season that you would hear kind of in the Charlotte
area and things of that nature. And I think the
biggest thing for us, and I said it before the season,
I want to see continued growth from this football team.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I don't think we've seen it yet.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
I thought defense played a lot better last week. I
put in a bad.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Situation, but for the most part, really played some decent
football last weekend. Offensively, you know, it's a turnover issue
that's biting us because we haven't had a chance to
get our run game going, and that's what we want
to hang our hat on. I think we have some
players that have showed up and they're the consistent selves.
So just come out, be ready to be allowed, and
(18:18):
let's hope we can give them something to be loud about.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
You're in the booth. Is Luke back in the booth
with you?
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yes, sir, he is back in the booth, and so
I know he's chomping at the bit like I am
for us to kind of get in the win column
and get going. Let's get try to get some momental
moving in the right direction.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
After our first.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Game together, Jay, give me the scouting report. Differences between
having Luke to your right and myself. I mean, I
know I'm better, but just you know, break it down.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
There's no doubt listen all jokes aside. I think Luke is,
and especially sitting next to him, I have the visual
I can kind of see out the corner of my
eye just watching him diagnose an offense and watching you know,
from shifts in motion and things of that nature, just
the technical aspect of playing defense, and that's where he's
(19:06):
just he sees it so fast. He sees offensive line
play on like pinn and pull play or gap scheme
or zone because that was his reads, that was his
eyes at all time. And I think just with you,
you pick up so many things on the offensive line.
Like on one of the sacks the other day, you
in essence, you were very upset in the booth. You
(19:26):
were like, hey, we've got to pass that off. That
is not They should not have had a free runner
at the quarterback. And that's something that I think is
so it's fun when you sit with an offensive lineman
because you know what was supposed to be done here
where a hand was supposed to be posted. It should
have been passed off between two offensive linemen with a
game from the defensive line. So that's kind of the
(19:49):
you know what, I like enjoy from both.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Of those sides.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
As I sat there next to you, I'm going to
tell you the truth sometimes I like, I don't really
want to say anythings. I want to hear what Jake
has to say because looking around, like when you're when
you're talking, you're grabbing a niche or me. You're looking
side to side like with that Jake DeLoone intensity, man,
it was. It was a great time for sure. Hey,
you know we talked about it during the game that
(20:13):
we I spotted Ikey puking right before the play. We
were able to confirm that afterwards. Jake, you were with
me down in the player family area. He said, yes,
I did puke. And I said, did it keep the
defensive end from rushing you? He said yeah. Man, he
stopped halfway through and said, ew, so it is a
new technique to be utilized for every offensive lineman listening.
(20:34):
It is.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
He was walking and I said, hey, did you puke?
And he said twice? And he said I felt so
much better after. You know, you know, just think about it.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
And you missed I.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Mean hit an appendect toy, I mean missed a couple
of weeks and and all the plays in past setting.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
I don't think people understand.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
What's it like, you're just past setting the whole second half.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
It is so difficult.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Yeah, enough to make a guy puke. Cool. Let's hope
he doesn't do any of that in Charlotte this weekend.
It goes smooth, man, I'm I'm gonna miss being there.
Had a great time seeing you, but have fun with
everybody out there, and uh tell everybody hi. I'll talk
to you next week.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
But sounds good.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Good luck this week
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