December 18, 2025 • 22 mins
This week on Jordan & Jake, the guys share their thoughts on the Panthers week 15 loss to the New Orleans Saints, discuss the Panthers growing pains, preview this week's monumental game vs Tampa, and so much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Jordan's and Jake.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm go good, I'm excited.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Ready to go.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Hop stops.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
He throws at a crossfield. Guess who, George trouts.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Here are your panther haul of our numbers. Jordan's gross
and Jake still all.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Sweek sixteen. Jake, we're getting close. Three games left in
the season, and it's a time of year where we
get close to Christmas. Every year, as you know, you
might not know, you might not remember. I go to
Jackson Hole with someboddies for some skiing, and this year
we just got back yesterday. This year not a whole
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lot of snow out here in the West. It's wildly wild,
how dry it is. However, we didn't get a few
runs in. But I tell you this because I had
an incident.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Happened and I'd like to share it with you.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I'd love to hear.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
So we go to this is how wild I am.
It's me, It's Richie Brockle panther great. It's Mike Doliac,
who was a Utah basketball player for Rick mcjarison the nineties,
went on to play ten years in the NBA. He's
six eleven seven feet and then my son Teddy the
four of us.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
We go out to dinner.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
We head to the Mangy Moose, which is like the
famous bar and grill right at the base of the mountain,
been there since the seventies.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
For a wild night of playing scrabble.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Okay, okay, that's the kind of wild guys we are.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
We go in there, we sit down.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Immediately, this girl, like probably early twenties comes up to
me and she's I can say, it's not real busy,
and there I can see she's with a group of
a diverse population of age of people.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
She comes over and says, are you Jordan Gross. I'm like, well,
yes I am. Why do you ask?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
She says, we're from Charlotte, North Carolina, and we are
huge Panther fans. And I look over and they're all like,
that's once. They very that's who I am. So it's
kind of funny. We talked a little bit and then
I go over to them as we're leaving. I tried
one at scrabble. It's like nine p thirty. We're getting
ready to leave. Talk to these people. The Campbell's huge
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panther fans, original PSL owners.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
They've driven out the day.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Before from Charlotte, North Carolina to Jackson Hole while listening
to you on the broadcast, and all they wanted to
talk about was how much they loved Jake diloone how
their daughter went to LSU and knows Lauren and you
were a big star in their life, Jake.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
So there you go.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
That is funny. That is awesome. That's one thing that
I think so cool.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
You get so many people the Charlotte people that followed.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Us when we played. I get so many people.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
That I've met throughout the course of time and not
in Charlotte, out and about in other states and whatnot. Hey,
original PSL or my dad or my grandfather.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Was original PSL. And I think that's so cool.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
You know, it's a because this organization is starting to grow.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
It was so new for so long, right, but it's.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Starting to kind of go into the second generation and
sometimes we're starting to push the third generation.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
And I think that's great.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Now that's it takes this young.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
The gal that came up to me was probably like
twenty four maybe, and yeah, she's the one that's going
to be has literally grown up a Panther fan that age,
you know, So when you say young, it's like we've
been around a long time, but now they're big fancy her.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Jake, okay, and they what they brought up in your broadcast.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
And I listened to you on the radio too, because
I was driving the card the end of the game.
Go to the right to the Saints game, Bud, Okay,
there's the time out, one last play for the Saints.
Are they in field goal position or not? You said
it on the broadcast. Did we show too early that
we're dropping nine? It was incredible commentating by you, Jake,
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because what do you know, I think we may have
the Saints run a QB, you know, draw or whatever
up the middle.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
We get the late head.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Jake kind of just tacked me through the end of
that game because it was a tough one.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Bud. It was a tough one.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Yeah, yeah, Jorne, it was a tough one.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
You know. It kind of felt when we.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Took a ten point lead in the third quarter.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
All right, here we go, let's.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Kind of put our foot on the throat and lets
it's time now.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
And then it just.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
It just it was never our day, you know what
I mean? Like one from the penalties, excuse me.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
And I believe this referee crew they're.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
Not afraid to throw a penalty flag.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
I think going in we knew that, and uh, certainly
they were pretty liberal in their flags, and so you
know a ton of flags. And we gave them big
first downs on second and long and third and long,
and it's Jordan. We were so close on getting the
big turnover, you know, Mike Jack twice. One time he
kind of he breaks up a.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Cast to Jawan Johnson.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
The ball goes up in the air and Juwan catches
it again right in his hands.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Then another time.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
He puts his helmet on the ball, it goes straight
up in the air. It kind of goes through Christian
Rosebund's arms, and the Saints recover. And it was just like,
oh if you kind of wonder and I started getting
that feeling like this is just not our day. And when
that happened late in the game, you know, it was
hopeful that they cannot attempt to feel gold. We could
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get to overtime. But then Tyler Schuck was still near
the sideline talking to the Saints coaches and Luke announced.
Luke said, Okay, we're taking our d lineman out. We're
gonna drop everyone. And that's what I was like, Man,
did we show it too early? Did they change the play?
And no one's asked that question yet, or at least
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I have I heard from the Saints side of things,
because I tried to listen to find out. But I
feel bad for Lathan Ransom. Is that someone's and you're
running to stop him by any means necessary in these
slides and you've already committed yourself. So but listen, they
protect the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
We know, we get that.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
And it was tough, Joran. It was a tough loss.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
But this team has shown the resilient nature of bouncing
back and hopefully we can do that again. Tampa's coming
in off of a extended by extended break because they
played on the Thursday.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
There you go, and.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
So how do we respond because we still.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Recontrol our own destiny.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Right, everything's right in front of us, so we'll see
how it goes.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Okay, so let's talk about that slide.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
JJ Janssen took to social media to propose banning the
baseball slide the QB slide. His argument was QB's get
concussions because it's the only part of the body left
kind of for a player to hit if they have
to try to pull off and just.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
The way that you know they're running at each other,
you get the slide.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
That's kind of the only thing that the defender can
end up hitting. Qvs use it as a weapon, meaning
to try to get more penalties on that the thing, Jake,
you slid a number of times.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Where do you sit on that? Is that an interesting argument?
JJ proposed you got to go ahead first, and well,
I don't know that.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Well, no, and I'm one, Well, Luke and I talk
about this a lot off air a ton. If you
can dive head first and turn to your side, you're
off shoulder.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Because you start to slide.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
You lose.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
To me, you're losing two to.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Three yards, right because right when you start the slide
is where they go to market. Well, if you dive
forward and go on your off shoulder, meaning your non
throwing shoulder like a dive sideways, you're gaining two to
three more yards. I always think you get access to
more yards. But here's the problem that I and this
should just be off the top of my head. If
the defenders know there's no sliding, Jordan, you're looking at
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human torpedoes coming.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
In like running right at him and knowing they got
to forward and here we go. I'm diving. I'm going
after him.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
So, but do you think there's a technique that can
be used by a quarterback to slide but like kind
of bait or you know, I held it as long
as possible.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Now I'm sliding because that. I mean, that was a
critical pillion.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
I don't blame Ransom for I mean, he sees that
ball towards him, your instinct, school games on the line,
all that, then bam fifteen more?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
What do we do about? Jake?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Join us tough? And I think that's a quarterbacks weapon.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
I used to like to do that as late as
possible and slide.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Why why Jake?
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Why Buckley extra fifteen? I mean, you're just you're trying.
You're running at an extra extra fifteen.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
And I can remember vividly.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Doing that against John Lynch and the Buccaneers on our
sideline and I slid late, and he and and I
got up, and he just pointed and he took looked
at Rodney Peak because they were teammates at one point
in Tampa, and he looked at it and he told me,
he goes, I'm gonna take your bleeping head off.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
He told Rodney.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
He goes, Rodney, I'm gonna take his head off, and
I was a little mildy, so I'm out of saying something.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
And I remember Rodney looking at him, go, hey, he's
not joking. He's gonna take your head off. So yeah,
it's something that you always tried to do.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
I did it in Detroit.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Uh conoc Kennedy hit me late.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
My head hit the ground, and I got a little
quiet for a little bit.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
I remember the extra fifteen.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
And Chris Winkey was able to come in and finish.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
The drive and we got to win. So yeah, quarterbacks
use it as a weapon.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Jordan, So yeah, you're not on the you're not with
JJ Jon. I we can just delete it, Jordan.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
I just worry about if if a defender only knows
you can dive forward, it's like, you know, there's gonna
be some major collisions.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
All right. So we're moving on.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
So if you're a Panther fan, which you are, okay,
and then some of the folks listening, we're seven and
seven now, Jacob, so let's just we got three weeks left.
Anything could happen, right, we could be ten and seven
division champions.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
We could be seven and ten. We could be anything
in between. What's the realistic It's it's been such.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
A yo yo season with gigantic wins and then losses
based on record of opponent, case in point to Saints
sweeping US, that you can get frustrated with this team, Jake. However,
a seven win season, an eight win season, a nine,
or a ten win season, like the way that just
programmed building happens, is a gigantic step in the right direction, Jake.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
So how do you like guard yourself with these last
three weeks? Hey? Like, it's all plausible that we could
win three in a row.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
However, we haven't shown that we could do that consistently
this season. So I guess they're just like asking, Jake,
where do we sit and how are we doing this?
Speaker 5 (10:40):
And jortant this exercise and so many people do it.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
And you know what I think about it is that, Okay,
if you would have told me with three games left
to go in August we're gonna have seven wins with
the ability to win the division, I'm gonna say, where
where do I sign? Where do I sign the contract?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
That's exactly what.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
I want, because I just believe we're a young team
that we're an as sending team.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Are we there yet?
Speaker 5 (11:08):
We haven't shown yet.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
I keep using the word yet because we've got three games.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Left and a two win team, a five win team,
and now we're at seven with three games left.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Let's see where that can take us.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Let's see how we can finish. And so, you know, Jordan,
I just think you got to learn how to win.
And Luke talked about we talked about it in the broadcast,
and he talked.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
About the fourteen season.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Right, they finished the season strong, making the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
And then the.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Following year, Seattle was the Seattle team, right, one of
the premier teams in the NFL. Well, they beat Seattle.
The Panthers did in Seattle. Cam throws the seam route,
I believe late in the game to Greg Olsen and
it was like right then and there, okay.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
We're that team. All right, we slayed the dragon. Right,
we beat the big team. We have arrived. I don't
know if we had at that moment yet.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
This year, go to green Bay, beat green.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Bay, great, come back home land egg against the Saints.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
You know, we win a big game, throwing the ball
all over over the yard against Atlanta, handsome Monday night football,
have everything go our way, defense gives us three turnovers,
can't really do much offensively.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Gosh, we're not there. Short.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
We beat the Rams, best team in football, so we're
kind of this up and down, up and down. We
haven't hit that that smooth fride yet. And I think
Canallas has already said it, Hey, we haven't seen our
best ball. Can we get to it this year? I
hope so, Jorge, I hope so. But I think we're
taking those steps.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Towards Would it be weird? I mean, it's not unusual.
Start with the quarterback, right, So Brian's still super young.
He's done you some great things this year. Consistency at
the quarterback play Jake?
Speaker 1 (12:54):
How much? How much? How much? Is he still learning
every week? You know? Like I mean, I can, I
can speak as an offensive lineman. You learn and you
learn and you learn.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
And it wasn't until like my probably I say, like
my fifth and sixth season was when I was like
up to speed mentally with NFL football.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Not meaning like I had trouble learning.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
But you just have to get enough reps and enough
looks and enough experience at enough times seeing something to
be able to register like, Okay, this is what they're
trying to do here.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I can anticipate this a little bit, Jake, So consistency.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
You got that happening with our quarterback, just naturally as
the evolution of a quarterback happens. And then the same
thing's happening with filling the blank all the way down.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
We're back to wondering if we're going to have a
new O line combination again, right, it could be our eleven.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
If he's got a knee, finished the game last week,
he didn't practice Wednesday, We'll see if he's you know,
he'll be a game time decision. Could be a new
O line combination. It's just you can throw out the
whole or we're young. I mean, we're starting rookies, but
this is kind of what you would expect from a
team at this developmental stage with coach Cadallis, with our quarterback,
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with other rookies.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
It's just where we're at, right I think.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
So, I don't know that makes people upset, but you know, I.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
Go back to the Bryce deal. He's in year three,
all right, we just played Tyler Shuck. Tyler Shuck's a
rookie and he's two.
Speaker 7 (14:14):
Years older than Bryce, physically older that you're starting to get.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Into a grown man bond, you know. And I'm not
saying Bryce is all of a sudden gonna gain thirty.
Speaker 7 (14:23):
Pounds and all that, but you just I think you
just get a little bit stronger and you start to
understand the NFL.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
But I just look at us, at the skill position wise,
we are babies. We are some babies, and I love
it because we're talented and we have strides.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
But I just don't know if we're all.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
The way there yet in being that season better in
that season group.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
So go back to you know, the Super Bowl right.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Our years Jordan, seven and nine, the year before you
and I weren't there, but that team had some tough,
brutal losses, but they.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Won seven games. And then you add in the mixture.
You know, I was able to come in, You were
able to.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Come in, Stephen Davis, Ricky Proll. You look at that,
but it was all the veterans, and I'm speaking from
a quarterback perspective.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
We were so mature on the offensive line, and then.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
You looked at the receivers.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Steve was in year three, his first year truly starting
and he takes the lead by Storm Mooses was in
year seven or something like that.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
I think it was year seven. He was established.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Ricky prol the season veteran our tight ends Chris Mangham
in year seven season guy Jermaine Wiggins played in Super
Bowls a season guy, you.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Know, Steven Day.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
It's like, we're so young at all these critical positions
in my opinion, and I think we're just we're making
those steps.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
What I like to see is finish the year and
like really grow up fast.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Yeah, am I anticipating that?
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I don't know, Jordan, I don't know you. I don't
know if I am.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
So some of the stuff I've read online as you
just you know, all along is going on, like tetar
Roa that had an outstanding season right now it's his
rookie year, and you just don't know how you've never been.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Through an experience like this, this mini game still three
to three to go, maybe four to go, maybe who
knows five to go?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
You know, we're young, and there's the rookie wall thing
that people talk about, and I'm just using him for
an example.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
We have a lot of rookies we're talking about. But
also being young man.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
The average body on a twenty three year old or
a twenty two year old or a twenty five year old,
it's going to be feeling a little bit better than
a thirty three thirty.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Four year old.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
So let's talk about like these next three games, Jake,
do we have what it takes to win? Can you
beat the Bucks twice? The Bucks are a mess right now.
Their coach was Coach Bowls after their game on Thursday,
was unleashing an expletive laden tirade about you got to
do your job and you got to win when it's
time to win. They're not feeling great, Jake. So with
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our young our youthfulness, ignorance is bliss, man. We just
cut a loose have fun and win these games.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
That's what I hope, you know.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
And and Lisens Division game, and I think Tampa, you know,
they started out the season great and.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Then they've kind of hit it all kind of like
just kind of even right. Well, they're getting fresher in
my opinion.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Mike Evans came back last week has missed.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
The majority of the season. The second year receiver McMillan
out of Washington.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Last week was his first game Chris Godwin, UH stud
receiver for many years, finally came back a couple of
weeks ago. A Mecca Buca, the other young receiver, started
out UH taking the league over by Star and it
got quiet, Well, it got quiet because everybody else got
hurt around him and he became the focal point.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
So you know it's a team. Is there some.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
Turmoil turmoil going on? You know, there's something.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Going on the way the tirade.
Speaker 6 (17:49):
From the coach after the game and Mike Evans leaving
before the game was over with, So there's some some turmoil.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
How they rectified it?
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Do these young guys start to understand? I'm hoping they
can stay that way, But we've got to worry about us.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
We've got to go out and play fast and make plays.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
You know, I was disappointed in some of the mistakes
we had defensively, some of the calls, and it sounds like,
you know, were we a little sloppy from the bye?
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I know Nick Scott.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Mentioned that Coach Canalis didn't really expand on that, but
was there something to that with all these young rookies.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Did they understand what the buye meant? And did they.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Come back extremely sharp?
Speaker 1 (18:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (18:28):
So do we get back on track after last week's game?
I'm hoping well. I think it's at home. I think
that helps. We had successful events at home this year.
Do you think that?
Speaker 3 (18:41):
I think the Panther fans I love playing at home
close to Christmas. It just seemed like we always travel,
we always represented well, not travel represented well by our fans,
families in town and all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Jake, So it should be a good vibe. Am I wrong?
Speaker 3 (18:56):
We got this game, we got two at home and
then we'd go on the road. Should be a Panther
friendly vibe. I think the fans wont it you win
this thing? If we can, you're getting control with two
games left, What do we have to do, Jake? Do
we have to beat the Bucks twice? I mean if
we beat the Bucks twice, we got it locked up? Correct?
If we beat the Bucks once and the Saints once
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and then the Bucks go and.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Win, we're tied again, but we have the head to head.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Then the winner of the last one would be the
division champ, because now the tiebreaker common opponents.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Right now the Bucks lead is. Is that how this
thing's playing out?
Speaker 4 (19:35):
I believe it is shortan I haven't gotten to the
minutia because you know, Jordon, I'm still one of those
what do we control? Well, we control everything, That's how.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I look at it. So do we take care of
business this week.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
I'm tired of learning about the help we got help
over the bye week when Tampa had a couple of losses.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Well, you know what, that's over and done with. We
control it. And I think Darrick Brown, he's the one
that said it after the game.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
We still have everything at our disposal.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
It's up to us and that's kind of what it is.
And I think the crowd. I know the crowd will
be into it. I think they like this team.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
I think that I think that we have a smart enough,
in my opinion, a smart enough crowd to get it that, Hey,
there's some peaks and there's some.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Valleys with this football team. Well, hopefully this is one
of these peaks this week.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
And if we can come out and play well and
not turn the ball over, establish that run game I
turned the ball over.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
You know, come out with a win. If we can
do that, then everything's.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Still for the take it for us, all right, Well,
I'm gonna let's do it. It sounds it sounds outstanding.
I seem a little bit like, you know, just it's
frustrating to not win that one last week. But you're right,
you go win this one and it cures all ills.
We're shown we could beat anybody before we go. Jake,
it is bull season and talking about winning your aging
(20:53):
Cajuns man, tough, tough loss to Delaware, Delaware's first ever bowl.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Game win, and the f Yes, yeah, I'm just I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Yeah, that was a tough watch and and you you
hate to make.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Excuses, Jordan.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
We were down the top ten.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
We were down ten offensive linemen.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
How about that?
Speaker 7 (21:15):
So, oh yes, you've lost nine throughout the course of
the season.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
We had a tight end ready to play tackle.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
And then sure enough one of the starting.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Tackles decided he's gonna go in the portal and he's
gonna leave his team high and.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Dry and not playing the bowl game.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
So yeah, I feel with our kids, we played hard.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
We we can only kind of run in a little bit.
We're not the best in the passing game, and you know,
we tried to make a call.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
We had too many opportunities last night. It was basically
watching the Saints game, Jordan, we had opportunities first drive
of the game, right down the field, wide open, tight
end for a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
And yeah, we just kind of underthrow it severely. And
it was tough.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
It was a tough watch, Jordan, and man, I didn't
sleep good last night.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
That's that's different. It's very difficult.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
So they were raging, they were just weren't raging. They
were just weren't. We were just so just regular occasions.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Yeah, that was horrd Jordan, and uh, you know, so, I'm.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Sorry to bring it up.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Hey, look what happens.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
You got to own it, right, you got to own it.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
All right.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Hey, I'm gonna let you go. Are you calling the
game this week? You got the game on what are
you doing?
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Yes, sir, I would be there this week and in
the following week, so Luke, I will be there. And
you know, Jonathan Stewart sits behind us and hopefully he.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Can bring us some good luck.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
And you know that, well, you're you're right about that,
You're right about that.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
All right, I'll talk to you laterbody, have a good
Jordan's and Jake.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm go good, I'm excited.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Ready to go.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Hop stops.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
He throws at a crossfield. Guess who, George trouts.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Here are your panther haul of our numbers. Jordan's gross
and Jake still all.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Sweek sixteen. Jake, we're getting close. Three games left in
the season, and it's a time of year where we
get close to Christmas. Every year, as you know, you
might not know, you might not remember. I go to
Jackson Hole with someboddies for some skiing, and this year
we just got back yesterday. This year not a whole
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lot of snow out here in the West. It's wildly wild,
how dry it is. However, we didn't get a few
runs in. But I tell you this because I had
an incident.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Happened and I'd like to share it with you.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I'd love to hear.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
So we go to this is how wild I am.
It's me, It's Richie Brockle panther great. It's Mike Doliac,
who was a Utah basketball player for Rick mcjarison the nineties,
went on to play ten years in the NBA. He's
six eleven seven feet and then my son Teddy the
four of us.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
We go out to dinner.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
We head to the Mangy Moose, which is like the
famous bar and grill right at the base of the mountain,
been there since the seventies.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
For a wild night of playing scrabble.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Okay, okay, that's the kind of wild guys we are.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
We go in there, we sit down.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Immediately, this girl, like probably early twenties comes up to
me and she's I can say, it's not real busy,
and there I can see she's with a group of
a diverse population of age of people.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
She comes over and says, are you Jordan Gross. I'm like, well,
yes I am. Why do you ask?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
She says, we're from Charlotte, North Carolina, and we are
huge Panther fans. And I look over and they're all like,
that's once. They very that's who I am. So it's
kind of funny. We talked a little bit and then
I go over to them as we're leaving. I tried
one at scrabble. It's like nine p thirty. We're getting
ready to leave. Talk to these people. The Campbell's huge
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panther fans, original PSL owners.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
They've driven out the day.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Before from Charlotte, North Carolina to Jackson Hole while listening
to you on the broadcast, and all they wanted to
talk about was how much they loved Jake diloone how
their daughter went to LSU and knows Lauren and you
were a big star in their life, Jake.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
So there you go.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
That is funny. That is awesome. That's one thing that
I think so cool.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
You get so many people the Charlotte people that followed.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Us when we played. I get so many people.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
That I've met throughout the course of time and not
in Charlotte, out and about in other states and whatnot. Hey,
original PSL or my dad or my grandfather.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Was original PSL. And I think that's so cool.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
You know, it's a because this organization is starting to grow.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
It was so new for so long, right, but it's.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Starting to kind of go into the second generation and
sometimes we're starting to push the third generation.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
And I think that's great.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Now that's it takes this young.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
The gal that came up to me was probably like
twenty four maybe, and yeah, she's the one that's going
to be has literally grown up a Panther fan that age,
you know, So when you say young, it's like we've
been around a long time, but now they're big fancy her.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Jake, okay, and they what they brought up in your broadcast.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
And I listened to you on the radio too, because
I was driving the card the end of the game.
Go to the right to the Saints game, Bud, Okay,
there's the time out, one last play for the Saints.
Are they in field goal position or not? You said
it on the broadcast. Did we show too early that
we're dropping nine? It was incredible commentating by you, Jake,
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because what do you know, I think we may have
the Saints run a QB, you know, draw or whatever
up the middle.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
We get the late head.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Jake kind of just tacked me through the end of
that game because it was a tough one.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Bud. It was a tough one.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Yeah, yeah, Jorne, it was a tough one.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
You know. It kind of felt when we.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Took a ten point lead in the third quarter.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
All right, here we go, let's.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Kind of put our foot on the throat and lets
it's time now.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
And then it just.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
It just it was never our day, you know what
I mean? Like one from the penalties, excuse me.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
And I believe this referee crew they're.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
Not afraid to throw a penalty flag.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
I think going in we knew that, and uh, certainly
they were pretty liberal in their flags, and so you
know a ton of flags. And we gave them big
first downs on second and long and third and long,
and it's Jordan. We were so close on getting the
big turnover, you know, Mike Jack twice. One time he
kind of he breaks up a.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Cast to Jawan Johnson.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
The ball goes up in the air and Juwan catches
it again right in his hands.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Then another time.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
He puts his helmet on the ball, it goes straight
up in the air. It kind of goes through Christian
Rosebund's arms, and the Saints recover. And it was just like,
oh if you kind of wonder and I started getting
that feeling like this is just not our day. And when
that happened late in the game, you know, it was
hopeful that they cannot attempt to feel gold. We could
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get to overtime. But then Tyler Schuck was still near
the sideline talking to the Saints coaches and Luke announced.
Luke said, Okay, we're taking our d lineman out. We're
gonna drop everyone. And that's what I was like, Man,
did we show it too early? Did they change the play?
And no one's asked that question yet, or at least
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I have I heard from the Saints side of things,
because I tried to listen to find out. But I
feel bad for Lathan Ransom. Is that someone's and you're
running to stop him by any means necessary in these
slides and you've already committed yourself. So but listen, they
protect the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
We know, we get that.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
And it was tough, Joran. It was a tough loss.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
But this team has shown the resilient nature of bouncing
back and hopefully we can do that again. Tampa's coming
in off of a extended by extended break because they
played on the Thursday.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
There you go, and.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
So how do we respond because we still.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Recontrol our own destiny.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Right, everything's right in front of us, so we'll see
how it goes.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Okay, so let's talk about that slide.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
JJ Janssen took to social media to propose banning the
baseball slide the QB slide. His argument was QB's get
concussions because it's the only part of the body left
kind of for a player to hit if they have
to try to pull off and just.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
The way that you know they're running at each other,
you get the slide.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
That's kind of the only thing that the defender can
end up hitting. Qvs use it as a weapon, meaning
to try to get more penalties on that the thing, Jake,
you slid a number of times.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Where do you sit on that? Is that an interesting argument?
JJ proposed you got to go ahead first, and well,
I don't know that.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Well, no, and I'm one, Well, Luke and I talk
about this a lot off air a ton. If you
can dive head first and turn to your side, you're
off shoulder.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Because you start to slide.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
You lose.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
To me, you're losing two to.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Three yards, right because right when you start the slide
is where they go to market. Well, if you dive
forward and go on your off shoulder, meaning your non
throwing shoulder like a dive sideways, you're gaining two to
three more yards. I always think you get access to
more yards. But here's the problem that I and this
should just be off the top of my head. If
the defenders know there's no sliding, Jordan, you're looking at
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human torpedoes coming.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
In like running right at him and knowing they got
to forward and here we go. I'm diving. I'm going
after him.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
So, but do you think there's a technique that can
be used by a quarterback to slide but like kind
of bait or you know, I held it as long
as possible.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Now I'm sliding because that. I mean, that was a
critical pillion.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
I don't blame Ransom for I mean, he sees that
ball towards him, your instinct, school games on the line,
all that, then bam fifteen more?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
What do we do about? Jake?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Join us tough? And I think that's a quarterbacks weapon.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
I used to like to do that as late as
possible and slide.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Why why Jake?
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Why Buckley extra fifteen? I mean, you're just you're trying.
You're running at an extra extra fifteen.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
And I can remember vividly.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Doing that against John Lynch and the Buccaneers on our
sideline and I slid late, and he and and I
got up, and he just pointed and he took looked
at Rodney Peak because they were teammates at one point
in Tampa, and he looked at it and he told me,
he goes, I'm gonna take your bleeping head off.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
He told Rodney.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
He goes, Rodney, I'm gonna take his head off, and
I was a little mildy, so I'm out of saying something.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
And I remember Rodney looking at him, go, hey, he's
not joking. He's gonna take your head off. So yeah,
it's something that you always tried to do.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
I did it in Detroit.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Uh conoc Kennedy hit me late.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
My head hit the ground, and I got a little
quiet for a little bit.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
I remember the extra fifteen.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
And Chris Winkey was able to come in and finish.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
The drive and we got to win. So yeah, quarterbacks
use it as a weapon.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Jordan, So yeah, you're not on the you're not with
JJ Jon. I we can just delete it, Jordan.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
I just worry about if if a defender only knows
you can dive forward, it's like, you know, there's gonna
be some major collisions.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
All right. So we're moving on.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
So if you're a Panther fan, which you are, okay,
and then some of the folks listening, we're seven and
seven now, Jacob, so let's just we got three weeks left.
Anything could happen, right, we could be ten and seven
division champions.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
We could be seven and ten. We could be anything
in between. What's the realistic It's it's been such.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
A yo yo season with gigantic wins and then losses
based on record of opponent, case in point to Saints
sweeping US, that you can get frustrated with this team, Jake. However,
a seven win season, an eight win season, a nine,
or a ten win season, like the way that just
programmed building happens, is a gigantic step in the right direction, Jake.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
So how do you like guard yourself with these last
three weeks? Hey? Like, it's all plausible that we could
win three in a row.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
However, we haven't shown that we could do that consistently
this season. So I guess they're just like asking, Jake,
where do we sit and how are we doing this?
Speaker 5 (10:40):
And jortant this exercise and so many people do it.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
And you know what I think about it is that, Okay,
if you would have told me with three games left
to go in August we're gonna have seven wins with
the ability to win the division, I'm gonna say, where
where do I sign? Where do I sign the contract?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
That's exactly what.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
I want, because I just believe we're a young team
that we're an as sending team.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Are we there yet?
Speaker 5 (11:08):
We haven't shown yet.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
I keep using the word yet because we've got three games.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Left and a two win team, a five win team,
and now we're at seven with three games left.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Let's see where that can take us.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Let's see how we can finish. And so, you know, Jordan,
I just think you got to learn how to win.
And Luke talked about we talked about it in the broadcast,
and he talked.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
About the fourteen season.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Right, they finished the season strong, making the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
And then the.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Following year, Seattle was the Seattle team, right, one of
the premier teams in the NFL. Well, they beat Seattle.
The Panthers did in Seattle. Cam throws the seam route,
I believe late in the game to Greg Olsen and
it was like right then and there, okay.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
We're that team. All right, we slayed the dragon. Right,
we beat the big team. We have arrived. I don't
know if we had at that moment yet.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
This year, go to green Bay, beat green.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Bay, great, come back home land egg against the Saints.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
You know, we win a big game, throwing the ball
all over over the yard against Atlanta, handsome Monday night football,
have everything go our way, defense gives us three turnovers,
can't really do much offensively.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Gosh, we're not there. Short.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
We beat the Rams, best team in football, so we're
kind of this up and down, up and down. We
haven't hit that that smooth fride yet. And I think
Canallas has already said it, Hey, we haven't seen our
best ball. Can we get to it this year? I
hope so, Jorge, I hope so. But I think we're
taking those steps.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Towards Would it be weird? I mean, it's not unusual.
Start with the quarterback, right, So Brian's still super young.
He's done you some great things this year. Consistency at
the quarterback play Jake?
Speaker 1 (12:54):
How much? How much? How much? Is he still learning
every week? You know? Like I mean, I can, I
can speak as an offensive lineman. You learn and you
learn and you learn.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
And it wasn't until like my probably I say, like
my fifth and sixth season was when I was like
up to speed mentally with NFL football.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Not meaning like I had trouble learning.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
But you just have to get enough reps and enough
looks and enough experience at enough times seeing something to
be able to register like, Okay, this is what they're
trying to do here.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I can anticipate this a little bit, Jake, So consistency.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
You got that happening with our quarterback, just naturally as
the evolution of a quarterback happens. And then the same
thing's happening with filling the blank all the way down.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
We're back to wondering if we're going to have a
new O line combination again, right, it could be our eleven.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
If he's got a knee, finished the game last week,
he didn't practice Wednesday, We'll see if he's you know,
he'll be a game time decision. Could be a new
O line combination. It's just you can throw out the
whole or we're young. I mean, we're starting rookies, but
this is kind of what you would expect from a
team at this developmental stage with coach Cadallis, with our quarterback,
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with other rookies.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
It's just where we're at, right I think.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
So, I don't know that makes people upset, but you know, I.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
Go back to the Bryce deal. He's in year three,
all right, we just played Tyler Shuck. Tyler Shuck's a
rookie and he's two.
Speaker 7 (14:14):
Years older than Bryce, physically older that you're starting to get.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Into a grown man bond, you know. And I'm not
saying Bryce is all of a sudden gonna gain thirty.
Speaker 7 (14:23):
Pounds and all that, but you just I think you
just get a little bit stronger and you start to
understand the NFL.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
But I just look at us, at the skill position wise,
we are babies. We are some babies, and I love
it because we're talented and we have strides.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
But I just don't know if we're all.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
The way there yet in being that season better in
that season group.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
So go back to you know, the Super Bowl right.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Our years Jordan, seven and nine, the year before you
and I weren't there, but that team had some tough,
brutal losses, but they.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Won seven games. And then you add in the mixture.
You know, I was able to come in, You were
able to.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Come in, Stephen Davis, Ricky Proll. You look at that,
but it was all the veterans, and I'm speaking from
a quarterback perspective.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
We were so mature on the offensive line, and then.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
You looked at the receivers.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Steve was in year three, his first year truly starting
and he takes the lead by Storm Mooses was in
year seven or something like that.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
I think it was year seven. He was established.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Ricky prol the season veteran our tight ends Chris Mangham
in year seven season guy Jermaine Wiggins played in Super
Bowls a season guy, you.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Know, Steven Day.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
It's like, we're so young at all these critical positions
in my opinion, and I think we're just we're making
those steps.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
What I like to see is finish the year and
like really grow up fast.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Yeah, am I anticipating that?
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I don't know, Jordan, I don't know you. I don't
know if I am.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
So some of the stuff I've read online as you
just you know, all along is going on, like tetar
Roa that had an outstanding season right now it's his
rookie year, and you just don't know how you've never been.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Through an experience like this, this mini game still three
to three to go, maybe four to go, maybe who
knows five to go?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
You know, we're young, and there's the rookie wall thing
that people talk about, and I'm just using him for
an example.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
We have a lot of rookies we're talking about. But
also being young man.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
The average body on a twenty three year old or
a twenty two year old or a twenty five year old,
it's going to be feeling a little bit better than
a thirty three thirty.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Four year old.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
So let's talk about like these next three games, Jake,
do we have what it takes to win? Can you
beat the Bucks twice? The Bucks are a mess right now.
Their coach was Coach Bowls after their game on Thursday,
was unleashing an expletive laden tirade about you got to
do your job and you got to win when it's
time to win. They're not feeling great, Jake. So with
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our young our youthfulness, ignorance is bliss, man. We just
cut a loose have fun and win these games.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
That's what I hope, you know.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
And and Lisens Division game, and I think Tampa, you know,
they started out the season great and.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Then they've kind of hit it all kind of like
just kind of even right. Well, they're getting fresher in
my opinion.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Mike Evans came back last week has missed.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
The majority of the season. The second year receiver McMillan
out of Washington.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Last week was his first game Chris Godwin, UH stud
receiver for many years, finally came back a couple of
weeks ago. A Mecca Buca, the other young receiver, started
out UH taking the league over by Star and it
got quiet, Well, it got quiet because everybody else got
hurt around him and he became the focal point.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
So you know it's a team. Is there some.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
Turmoil turmoil going on? You know, there's something.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Going on the way the tirade.
Speaker 6 (17:49):
From the coach after the game and Mike Evans leaving
before the game was over with, So there's some some turmoil.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
How they rectified it?
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Do these young guys start to understand? I'm hoping they
can stay that way, But we've got to worry about us.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
We've got to go out and play fast and make plays.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
You know, I was disappointed in some of the mistakes
we had defensively, some of the calls, and it sounds like,
you know, were we a little sloppy from the bye?
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I know Nick Scott.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Mentioned that Coach Canalis didn't really expand on that, but
was there something to that with all these young rookies.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Did they understand what the buye meant? And did they.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Come back extremely sharp?
Speaker 1 (18:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (18:28):
So do we get back on track after last week's game?
I'm hoping well. I think it's at home. I think
that helps. We had successful events at home this year.
Do you think that?
Speaker 3 (18:41):
I think the Panther fans I love playing at home
close to Christmas. It just seemed like we always travel,
we always represented well, not travel represented well by our fans,
families in town and all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Jake, So it should be a good vibe. Am I wrong?
Speaker 3 (18:56):
We got this game, we got two at home and
then we'd go on the road. Should be a Panther
friendly vibe. I think the fans wont it you win
this thing? If we can, you're getting control with two
games left, What do we have to do, Jake? Do
we have to beat the Bucks twice? I mean if
we beat the Bucks twice, we got it locked up? Correct?
If we beat the Bucks once and the Saints once
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and then the Bucks go and.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Win, we're tied again, but we have the head to head.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Then the winner of the last one would be the
division champ, because now the tiebreaker common opponents.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Right now the Bucks lead is. Is that how this
thing's playing out?
Speaker 4 (19:35):
I believe it is shortan I haven't gotten to the
minutia because you know, Jordon, I'm still one of those
what do we control? Well, we control everything, That's how.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I look at it. So do we take care of
business this week.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
I'm tired of learning about the help we got help
over the bye week when Tampa had a couple of losses.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Well, you know what, that's over and done with. We
control it. And I think Darrick Brown, he's the one
that said it after the game.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
We still have everything at our disposal.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
It's up to us and that's kind of what it is.
And I think the crowd. I know the crowd will
be into it. I think they like this team.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
I think that I think that we have a smart enough,
in my opinion, a smart enough crowd to get it that, Hey,
there's some peaks and there's some.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Valleys with this football team. Well, hopefully this is one
of these peaks this week.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
And if we can come out and play well and
not turn the ball over, establish that run game I
turned the ball over.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
You know, come out with a win. If we can
do that, then everything's.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Still for the take it for us, all right, Well,
I'm gonna let's do it. It sounds it sounds outstanding.
I seem a little bit like, you know, just it's
frustrating to not win that one last week. But you're right,
you go win this one and it cures all ills.
We're shown we could beat anybody before we go. Jake,
it is bull season and talking about winning your aging
(20:53):
Cajuns man, tough, tough loss to Delaware, Delaware's first ever bowl.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Game win, and the f Yes, yeah, I'm just I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Yeah, that was a tough watch and and you you
hate to make.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Excuses, Jordan.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
We were down the top ten.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
We were down ten offensive linemen.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
How about that?
Speaker 7 (21:15):
So, oh yes, you've lost nine throughout the course of
the season.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
We had a tight end ready to play tackle.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
And then sure enough one of the starting.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Tackles decided he's gonna go in the portal and he's
gonna leave his team high and.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Dry and not playing the bowl game.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
So yeah, I feel with our kids, we played hard.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
We we can only kind of run in a little bit.
We're not the best in the passing game, and you know,
we tried to make a call.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
We had too many opportunities last night. It was basically
watching the Saints game, Jordan, we had opportunities first drive
of the game, right down the field, wide open, tight
end for a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
And yeah, we just kind of underthrow it severely. And
it was tough.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
It was a tough watch, Jordan, and man, I didn't
sleep good last night.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
That's that's different. It's very difficult.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
So they were raging, they were just weren't raging. They
were just weren't. We were just so just regular occasions.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Yeah, that was horrd Jordan, and uh, you know, so, I'm.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Sorry to bring it up.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Hey, look what happens.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
You got to own it, right, you got to own it.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
All right.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Hey, I'm gonna let you go. Are you calling the
game this week? You got the game on what are
you doing?
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Yes, sir, I would be there this week and in
the following week, so Luke, I will be there. And
you know, Jonathan Stewart sits behind us and hopefully he.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Can bring us some good luck.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
And you know that, well, you're you're right about that,
You're right about that.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
All right, I'll talk to you laterbody, have a good
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