December 1, 2025 • 39 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 3 (00:22):
Scrugs, Media mash Time.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
It is Thursday here at the Star for the players
and coaches, but it's Monday to you and I. That's
how this thing works because the Cowboys will play on
Thursday at Detroit's Ford Field. It's media mash Time with
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And oh yes, they won the they won. They won
their rivalry game, Ohio State, the game on Super Bowl.
It's not it's a it's a good rivalry. It's not
the game.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
It's not the best robbery in the country. It's it's not.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
It's a good game though, And I'm so glad that
I got to cover it and be a part of it.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I got to see it. But you know, it's it's different.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Man, because it's not Georgia Alabama.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
It's it's not Alabama. Auburn.
Speaker 6 (01:18):
I would the Iron Bowl on Saturday. Let me tell you,
I've been in a lot of NFL stadiums by now,
a handful of college ones. That's the best environment I've
ever been.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
In in the USC.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
All right.
Speaker 6 (01:29):
Where they playing it at Saint John Bosco.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
I mean when it's and this is just me, when
it's in state, it's just different. It's different because you know,
you are Ohio and man school up norwith we ain't
going up north, even the commercial Eddie George, I mean,
we're gonna drive around Michigan.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Alabama, Man is right there.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
It's right there, and the pettiness is real.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
And being poor Auburn.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
I mean they keep firing folks left it right because
they can't be beat Alabama.
Speaker 7 (01:56):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
It's it's it's it's rough. It's rough. Now, you know.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
My man Johnoper finally got got in Ohio state because
he couldn't beat Michigan. But I do think it's a
fantastic rivalry. But I don't view it as to me,
I don't view it bigger than the Iron Bowl.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
That's just me. That's me.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
It's bigger than Detroit and Dallas, you know.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Having Dan Campbell, former tabloids still sauty don.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Who we embarrassed this franchise last year one of the
worst home defeats of the Jerry Jones era, maybe the worst.
Thirty eight points.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
I mean, how many form I mean, we had a
couple of assistants come back here and late on the cab,
but Mike Dicka did forty four to nothing on Thanksgiving Day.
Tom Landry, yeah yeah, Sean Payton came out here one
time and threw it up. I mean, will I tell
you when they leave here, they come back, they come
back looking for blood.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
Wait till that Mike McCarthy revenge tour starts in New
York next year the Giants.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
He's gonna be the Giants coach.
Speaker 8 (02:46):
They'll only lose bout tenow.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I like Mike. I like Mike. I appreciated Mike's time here.
It's fine appreciated.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
It's a perfectly solid football coach.
Speaker 9 (03:01):
Mike.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Mike just wasn't made for this. Now, he wasn't made
for this. Jerry I was talking to somebody.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
It's hard to go from the only franchise that has
no owner to franchise that he has an owner, and
so the owner.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Those were the things I talked about.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
I was like, man, this guy came from a whole
totally different atmosphere into this thing.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
And I can't remember which draft day press for it was.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
So there's Jerry Steven and Mike McCarthy at the podium
and he ain'tbody asking Mike anything. And then then somebody asked,
Mike says, I do you know why I'm here? And
I think ourself correct because we know you're not giving
us anything. We know we know who's giving us stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
And I said it.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
What I liked about Schottenheimer, I said, he reminds me
of reading Joe Torrey's book The Yankeeers. Joe knew how
to deal with George Steinbrenner. And because Shoty had been
here for three years, he'd seen but he saw everything
and behind how it worked that he's I feel like
he's done a very good job.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I just never felt like Mike was comfortable.
Speaker 8 (03:57):
They also feed his personality because you can understand how
it worked, as much as you want to instill not
be able to work with you.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah, like the radio show stuff.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Well, he also hasn't accomplished anything near like what Mike
had accomplished when he came here all right, true, true,
but he was grateful to be a first time head
coach after twenty five years in the league. Mike came
here as a guy who won a Super Bowl and
one division championships in Green Bay and hell one is
championship in Jerry's and Jerry's palace.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah, key too.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
To me.
Speaker 8 (04:28):
The key has always been is you can be really
happy to have the job, but you can't acquiesce to
everything that the owner says and does. Now, however, you
don't acquiesce. You can actuates behind the scenes privately, you
can manipulate it, but you just can't be that.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
Job can't be more important than winning.
Speaker 8 (04:50):
Yes, job, yes, And Mike, I think got caught up in.
I need a job, so whatever, whatever, whatever, get the job.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Now I'm stuck in and I can't do nothing.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
I think the these Hindrance two is five years in,
he was still treating this like it was Green Bay.
It's just not. It's it's completely different.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
That's what.
Speaker 6 (05:07):
I don't think he ever crossed that mental threshold.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, that's it. Shot, He's done a good job thus far.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
And that's when you say that. And it's just my
opinion thinking that they did things the right way. We
won a championship. You're doing things the way you're doing
them and you're not winning anything. I've won a super
Bowl in your building.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
You could not beat us in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
True, even when I was coaching.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Yes, right, So so I think that part of what
you're saying is is I think he had that that like,
they're doing it better than you.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Even when I'm here, they're still doing him better than
New York.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
But clearly so if Green, if if the New York
Giants turn to Mike McCarthy, I would I would be surprised.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
It makes sense.
Speaker 8 (05:51):
It's the same type of atmosphere. It's a little bit
different because the owners not there, but New York and
all the things that come with being in New York
is the same type of you got to deal with
everything is a big story, even when it's really not.
Speaker 10 (06:03):
See from a roster construction standpoint, it makes a lot
of sense from that. Yeah, I don't know how you
would deal with that media, That's what I'm saying. I
don't know how you would deal with it because he
he thought it was.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Rough here, Yes, and Bay and the fans didn't like him.
You know, those things are there.
Speaker 8 (06:20):
So but this is a largely tough I think it's
a tough, but it's not as tough as it used
to be.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
As I'm an old man, but tough but fair media.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Tough media market here. I don't Philadelphia well, no, no, no, no, no, no,
that's Kyrie.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
No Philadelphia. I mean New York is is a bit.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
I mean, you know, like I said, every Philadelphia is worse.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Everything gets blown out of proportion.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
I mean, I mean, guys, I was told somebody one
reason why Kyrie works good here is because the media
here is nicer. And also, by the way, the maths, yeah,
we'll see you after the All of that matters, and
and yeah, I think guys can get along here a
lot better than Philadelphia, Boston, New York.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
It's not as contentious here, it's not.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
And in green Bay, yes, green Bay's the fans, the
media there is, they're they're more favorable. I mean, I
think that that's also what happens when you have a
one team, one team in town. You know they're going
to be You're you're more apt to giving them a
lot more favorable coverage and not pushing back as much
as versus number poor Nick Sirianni. I mean this man's
been in two Super Bowls and they've been giving this
(07:27):
man the business for three weeks now, I mean they
are on him.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
They are on himself.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Yes, going to Detroit here to face Dan Campbell and
uh Dan's got his own issues. All of a sudden, Yeah,
all of a sudden seven and five football team?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Are we surprised? From this perspective?
Speaker 8 (07:46):
You lose what everybody said was the best offense coordinating
in the league lost Like that was my thing? That
was and we ain't even talked about Aaron Glynn yet.
Coaching matters at the at the elite level and in
the game or the type talent is so close, coaching matters.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
I about Ben Johnson leaves a fifteen win Detroit team
and goes to a division rival and they're in first place,
in the number one seed in the NFC and the
space of his first eleven games? Is that goach?
Speaker 3 (08:14):
You guys ask.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
That's a big anniversary like Friday was a big anniversary.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
I mean, look, I've always thought of that because one
of my buddiess big Bear fans, because he was every
time he was a man.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
What are you doing with flutes.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
I mean, he's just been giving me the business, the business,
and I'm like, you guys would be like you guys
will be okay, but.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
I'm like, wow, Wow, what a difference the coaching jobs made.
Speaker 7 (08:39):
Man.
Speaker 8 (08:40):
My sister is a card carrying Bears fan who lives
in Philly and who went to the game Wow, dressed
under cover what she said until we scored that last
touch and everybody left, and she's I mean, she'll text
you all day long about Ben Johnson. And you know,
y'all keep ebra flues down there for please.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
They don't wonder how that feels, how it feels to camp,
you know, if you're flu how does that feel? Just
to see what they They fired you and they were
right and they're now thriving.
Speaker 8 (09:11):
Well, they don't know. Coaches never view it that way.
They're like, well, if they doesn't allow me to do
this and allowed me to do that, then if I'd
had one more year with Caleb, I'd been able to
getting ready to you know how coaches do that.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
And I'm not sure he left there as a big
fan of Caleb Williams and doubt he expected him to
have the kind of success under Ben Johnson or anybody
else that he's had so far of the season.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
They're doing it without their best player on defense too,
in Jalen Johnson. That's that's an added element to it.
It's like the guy who you helped succeed, it's not
him that's leading the NFL in interceptions and takeaways, it's
everybody else well.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
And to the point about the Lions, Yeah, that was
the big pre game preseason story was they lost both
their coordinators. Very seldom has that happened in the NFL
that a team loses two coordinators in the same offseason.
I think it's only happened like three or four time
happened to Philadelphi. But I think the bigger absences now
(10:04):
are Aman Ross, Saint Brown and Sam Laporta and Kirby Joseph.
That's what they're missing now. They're missing the personnel who
can make a difference on the field.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Rank right now, center who tried to come back and
fail the physical I mean, you know up front, I
mean when you get it, and we saw it with
traps front.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Hey, you know you don't have a grade three shams because.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
They're tough, they don't think anything of that.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
And Grade three is like off the bone a one or.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Two, Like, Okay, I feel a little discomfort. Oh really no,
this is great.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
I gotta do is pass this physical and I make
ten million.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
How's that thing?
Speaker 8 (10:37):
Especially teams pass whoever they want to on the physical.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I mean, you had one arm hanging up. We need
NEWI pass mon physical.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
The Dolphins wouldn't pass Drew Brees.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
That's what I'm saying. You just passed who you want to.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
That's what I say. On the players. How bad is
it when the medicals have get Nah, we can't do it.
Speaker 8 (10:53):
So when they don't want to pass you, they're like, man,
we you g a't gonna be able to help us.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
We're going we just get paying out medical. And yeah,
it's just good.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
So the Lions have got the Lions have got some
issues there. And I was in the locker room yesterday
and and I we talked to Osudzua and and and
Quinn Williams came out and talked out to the media.
And I just think the way you get to Jared
Goffice pressure at the middle, the Cowboys can run a
five man front up there and be able to be
stout in the run game and get to Jared.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
But you better stop the run first, because they've had
two hundred over two hundred yards rushing three times. Only
the Bears match that this year. And Gibbs is a
touchdown waiting to happen in any phase of the game,
on offense and from any place on the field. He's
got the three fast three of the four fastest next
gen times in the league.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
He's got his coach back this year to Shark Choice
recruited him and developed him at Georgia Tech and h
Over Cowboy running yep and and interviewed here for the
running backs job. Cowboys went with Derek Foster instead.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
So co worked out well for everybody.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
Is so far so good? Yeah, so far, so good.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Gibbs like number three in rushing or four, and then
Jamontey's about.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
Forty four touchdowns already. He's only been in the league
for three years. He's got four touchdowns. Want four touchdowns?
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Not bad for a guy.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
Barry Sanders is the only guy who has more right.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Fans booed on the draft dayly, what are we doing
with this guy?
Speaker 5 (12:14):
What do we take of this guy? What twelfth or
something like that. What are they gonna do with this guy,
not even every down player, Brad.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
It'd be pretty interesting if you can look at the
draft records of Pro Bowlers that were drafted by Brad
Holmes and what Will McLay has done, because the two
of the best personnel people out here. You know, what
a sensational job that Brad has done.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
But your point about golf, it is really all about that,
because he's got the biggest statistical drop off for any
quarterback in football when he's not under pressure versus when
he is under duress. I mean, it goes from like
one of the top three passers in football to the
absolute worst. So if you can handle the run game
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on the early downs and pressure him, especially up the middle,
like this team can do, going to be prob. And
obviously they're they're on their third center right now.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
I mean this this I'm shooting. I know you feel
I just get into the fourth quarter, be the cops.
Get this thing to the fourth quarter, get it the
fourth quarter, and make it a winnable football game.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
And they didn't get into the second quarter of the
last time they played them. That was here.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
That's what we're saying. That's uh, that's McCarthy. It's different times.
It's different in it. It's different.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Ed gotta get on that blue Magic Man that hope.
Man fans are on it. Man fans are on it.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
What if they win this ball game, they should be
favored in their final four games of the year.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
I said that on the other podcast too. It's like
after this they said their favorite and everything, and this.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
Is going to be twenty twenty three again for the Eagles.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
We talked a little bit about that too.
Speaker 8 (13:43):
You know, I think this schedule is too just there's
too many easy games.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Yeah easy.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
They already lost to the Giants once.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
I'll tell you what, playing the Commanders twice in three
weeks with Jade and Daniels. They also have to go
to Buffalo and they have to play the Chargers on
a Monday night at so far.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Hope justin Herbert plays, Yeah, yeah. Otherwise it's Trey Lance, right,
the playoffs, Hope.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
So it's it's it's interting. I just I just don't
see them.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Doing I think they got a game against the Raiders too, right, Yes,
they do.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
You have a game against mentioned that one.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
If you look at that schedule that this happened to
them again last time two years ago. It wasn't that similar.
Speaker 8 (14:17):
Well, you know, to your point, they are a team
that will implode from the inside, and so they've been
one level. It doesn't really matter who you play because
you just destroy yourself.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
Well, I mean, AJ Brown's called it an s show
the whole year, right, and now it's the other side
of the ball too. They just gave up three hundred
yards rushing to the Bears. What the Cowboys do to
them the week before that.
Speaker 8 (14:41):
It's not with their and see their coach is not
to me. It's what we say all the time. You
take on personality of coach, be it McCarthy or be
it Shoddy, or be it Syrianne who's all over the place.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
And Syrianni's saying, I'm not changing the play caller. It's
not his. Everybody else there wants to call Kevin Patulo fired, right,
he's he what did you say when he got to
his press conference after the game the other day, I'm
not changing the play caller. So what's he saying? It's
the players? It's the players because.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
I didn't call plays in Indianapolis. I ain't called on
looked at me. I'm not fixing this.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
He called them earlier there I.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Say this, man, it's fun to watch. It is.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
It is fun to watch, and that's that's a good thing.
I was once worried about the NBC game against Minnesota
getting flexed.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I ain't cowboys it.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
As long as they're in the hunt, they're gonna be there,
so it's gonna happen here. All right, let's get a
break when we come back here, let's talk about Dak Prescott,
who spoke to the media today.
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Speaker 4 (18:53):
By the way, congratulations on on your coach, Eric Morris
getting a gig but at the same time still being
able to coach the team this week in the American
Conference Championship against Tulane.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
But we're Lane Kiffin got the idea.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I see they're doing it. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
So it's a pretty interesting American Confience Championship where both
coaches are leading. So Tulane's coach some roles going to
Florida and your guys going to Oklahoma State.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
Is there anybody outside of l s U in the
state of Louisiana that thinks Lane Kiff and LSU is.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Actually gonna work.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
There's there's just a zero percent. It's gonna crash and burn.
They're gonna have to buy him out.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Work fine, work though, okay, work.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
That doesn't happen.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Work better than Brian Kelly.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
Sure.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
I don't think he'll even reach Brian Kelly level. I
think that's gonna be bad. I think that's gonna be
a defends on where.
Speaker 8 (19:44):
It depends on you know, does he does he take
them to uh where they believe they deserve to be
every year?
Speaker 3 (19:52):
I think he'll be better than Brian Kelly.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Can they go eleven one, eleven two every year?
Speaker 4 (19:59):
He a he's been in the sec understands it. Where
Brian Kelly, I mean, the guy came in with the
fake accent so right out you're just you're faking it
from the front.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
So he didn't get that part of it.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
So Lane, if you do what he did at Old Miss,
you can go to l s U and do that too,
you know, you know, go out there and get the
right talent, find a quarterback, coach him up. I think
I think he'll be No, I know he'll be better
than Ryan Kelly. Will he win a championship? I mean
at O'scheron is not exactly going down as a guy
(20:30):
who offer right right, the same, yeah, the same note
sat Bill waltsh you know Bill wall Street coming at
oon and that guy won a championship. I mean, think
about it. So minus Brian Kelly.
Speaker 10 (20:41):
Thest roster in college football's gonna have a for sure
for sure he can recruit.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
So if you so, you take out Brian Kelly, who
had no clue about sec life mainly was up there.
And because Cincinnati, Michigan all that, so o'jeron ended up
winning a championship. Guy before him, less Miles wanted championship
do before that, Nick same win the championship. Lane Kiffin
will be better than Brian Kelly. And I don't think
it's hard at that place, with the money they've got
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for him to be in a to be in a
position to win one.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
Y'all have been around here long enough. How is his
pops to deal with?
Speaker 8 (21:16):
It's great, Yeah, because they're relevant by the time he
got you true real tough. I mean he's he was
relevant because he had done great things. They didn't do
anything here.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Bat Hire.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah, he was a name higher is a convenient name.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
He was a jag at that point.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Yeah sounds but he wasn't always no, no, he was
at one point he.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Was that dude.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Yes, speaking of money Kiffin the gym today, I saw
Brod Maynell.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
I ain't talked to him.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
He's still just you know, walking around getting his work
out in Man wearing his black at black Yeah, I
said Hey.
Speaker 8 (21:51):
I've had that contract for Tristan Hill in his back
pocket holiday time.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
It's Christmas.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Man wants a tough football.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
No, I know you talk whatever you want to show.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
He's like, not how I would run it to our show,
Dak Press.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
I've already tried to redirect you guys several times.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Yes, yes you have, Dak Prescott. Yeah, what did you
find in Lightning today?
Speaker 5 (22:15):
What's that I like? I like that he talked about
the confidence that they're playing with coming out for these
three wins, that he uh, he's very honest about how
he've used this game, how important it is, and the
most fascinating part of the game within the game to
me is you know, he's he's playing his best football
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right now. And we've said that a lot in recent years,
but I think it's hard to argue that he's not
playing as well as he's ever played right now with
these two receivers. I mean, the three hundred yard passing
games leads the NFL. In that leads the NFL, and
he has three straight games, all wins, where he's completed
two hundred yards in passing to his two wide receivers.
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I think they need that kind of game against this line,
this team, And it was interesting to me that Dak
and the two receivers both talked about how unique it
is the way the Lions try to play you, that
it's unlike anything else they've seen this year in terms
of they get up, press man in your face, making
contact with you the line of scrimmage. You don't know
what kind of how the officials are gonna call it.
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You know, Dak selling them would be physical at the
top of the routes and off the line of script.
So I think it's interesting, gonna be an interesting matchup there.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
So stay right there, And this is one I was
doing another podcast, so I missed Dak. Does it still
matter going up against Jared Goff? Because in that draft class,
GARYT Jared went number one overall, and for a while
there was like, hey, there's there's Dak versus Carson Wentz
because Carson taking number two and he was a Philly
and then he had Jared Goff and then you know,
comparing Dak, who went in the fourth round to these
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two gags.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
Well, the interesting thing to me was somebody said to
Dak ask him about the quarterback class and how he's
passed golf, and I'm sorry, are you sure? Like Goff
went to a Super Bowl? Right, Goff's had more playoff
success that Dak has had. He didn't play well in
the Super Bowl. He had even play average, they would
have won a game they had the Patriots beat, I
asked Wade Phillips, who should have won that game? Yes,
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but I don't know that Dak really thinks he needs
to stand out against somebody else who was drafted higher
than him in his class. I think he looks at
himself as more among the more elite quarterbacks in football,
even though you can argue like I have, that Goff
has accomplished more.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Now, why do you think he's playing so well?
Speaker 5 (24:25):
I think I think the system fits him. I think
having a running game and be in play action is huge.
Like I wrote this last year, nobody reads me, obviously,
but I wrote I wrote at the end of last
year that McCarthy, if you're going to get rid of McCarthy.
To me, it was because he's got Dak playing exclusively
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in a shotgun seventy three percent of the time. And
Dak would be so much more effective if he played
like Jared Goff, if he played like stat Matthew Stafford
in under center with the threat of the running game,
and he he says that's that's the way he likes
to play like, that's the part of the game he
enjoys the most, and they've been usually successful at it.
So I think it's the system. I think it's the
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aggressive play calling style. I think it's the players around him,
like Javonte Williams has been great. Booker obviously has helped
protect him with his first round draft pick and then Pickens.
I mean, I'm not sure he's ever He's had good
receivers a couple of times before, but I'm not sure
he's ever had two this good.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
And you're tight end that you can rely on.
Speaker 8 (25:27):
Yeah, I think it's uh and I think it's We've
talked all about it, but you know, he can really
move this year. And I'm not talking about necessarily running
for ten or fifteen yards. I'm talking about like on
that touchdown pass to Javonte, where he's moving laterally, then
he steps up, then moves latterly again, then he flips
it to him and you know, even now on the
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two point or the one to pick it in the
corner where he's on the move and he's just so
he appears to be so much more mobile, whether it
was the work that he did because of his hamstring
or he's you know, now five years later, fully over
his ankle. Whatever that movement is that last little piece
to go with his mind and his ability to me
this And that.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
Was a big question coming into the year. Didn't you think, like, sure,
legitimate he could he manipulate the pocket and avoid the rush,
could he extend plays? Could he still be accurate? And
he's done all those things.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
He's been phenomenal this year.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
And with the play action specifically, I mean, these are
the two best play action quarterbacks in the league for
my money, and with Dak and his increased mobility, it
only increases the effectiveness of that play action and statistically
he's been the best this year.
Speaker 8 (26:31):
Let me ask you another question, because I'm curious what
makes a good play action quarterback?
Speaker 6 (26:35):
Just be able to make quick decisions because typically if.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Your back is to the defense, yeah, so you have.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
To be comfortable with that. And then, as he has
said several you know a lot of people who talk
about play action, they say, you don't really have to
have a good running game to have good play action,
but Dak says it's all about the running.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Yeah, a real threat.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
He has said that several times, like there's been a
few years where we just weren't that good at running
the football.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Well now we are last year. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
Oh, I think he's meant for the past three or four.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
You yeah, yeah, Nick, What else did you get out
of Dak?
Speaker 12 (27:04):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (27:04):
Yeah, I was bouncing from Dak over to the locker
room in the middle of that, but special cover. Yeah,
you know, I'm trying to try to do what I can,
but it He had said something about Dan Campbell and
he was asked about, you know, Dan Campbell and is
it personal for Dan Campbell? You see how they won
last year and kind of felt like they were rubbing
it in a little bit. He was like, well, you know,
(27:26):
I don't. I don't feel like there should be any
pride because it's one one right now, Like neither of
us should have any pride in this matchup or rivalry
right now. And there was a quote that he had
I'm trying to remember off talking about brain but I can't,
but that was basically what he said and being like,
hey man, like it's there's there's no you know, animosity
or anything between both sides. But you know, if he
feels the increased desire to win, and he's no different
than any of the other opponents because that's Cowboys typically
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do have the target on their back, you know, weekend,
week out. So I thought that was fascinating and just
kind of an interesting wrinkle into this.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
He said, you said, he's comfortable doing that, like he
beats us all the time, and that's not what's really happened.
He's won one and we've won one.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Is this a mini playoff game? Lions has habited five
right now, Cowboys six has.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
The Lions are just as desperate as the Cowboys. If
you listen to Dan Gamble.
Speaker 6 (28:13):
Yeah, it has to be. Both teams need this win.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Dan's inventing reasons to be may so yeah, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Well, the thing for Dallas is, like Dallas still has, Unbelievably,
Dallas's best shot is probably to win its division. For
the Eagles to falter like they did in twenty twenty
three when they finished they started ten to one and
lost five of their last six, and Dallas overtook them.
Neither party wants to talk about what those teams did
in the playoffs, but Dallas wind up winning the division
(28:40):
in a situation where that seemed inconceivable, right, And so
when Philly came here two weeks ago, they had the
biggest lead of any team in the NFL. They're up
four and a half games on Dallas. They could there
was I remember reading the stuff from ESPN research said
the Eagles could clinch as soon as week thirteen, which
by the way, is now okay, and that hasn't happened.
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All of a sudden, Dallas has closed it to a
game and a half. They're closer to the Eagles than
they are to the forty nine Ers as a final
wild card team.
Speaker 8 (29:09):
And if they figure out a way to win, because
I still think Detroit wins, but if they figure out
a way to win, then it's the pressure that you
put on Philadelphia, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
Because then they got to go place the Chargers three
days later on Monday Night football and we have to
hear Erberts there and now, all of a sudden, Oh
but god, if we lose, we're down to a half
a game.
Speaker 8 (29:28):
Yeah, and the Cowboys and then they'll look at this.
I mean, it then becomes, you know, a self fulfilling
prophecy in many different ways.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
But that's a big that's a big chasm to leap.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
But if you could, if you can beat the Eagles
and then beat the Chiefs in four days, you can
beat the Lions.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Oh, you can definitely beat the Lions.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Although I do think it was advantageous to the Cowboys
to play the Chiefs four days later rather than them
have a full week of prep. Yeah.
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Speaker 4 (32:54):
Oh, that's right, Nick sat Nick, Nick Harris ed Werder,
Jean Jacques Taylor, I am NEWI scrugs is a media mash,
all right. Trayvon Diggs set the return number seven. Defense
keeps getting more pieces, the reinforcements are on the way.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Well, I think it's I think it's great. I think
he'll come back.
Speaker 8 (33:13):
He's uh maybe he's over his heartbreak with Micah getting traded.
He pulled his head out his keyster and now he's ready.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
To uh shot.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
How he got his concussion pulling his head out. It
is still a mystery.
Speaker 6 (33:26):
Oh, I'll tell you what. That's the best theory we
have right now. That's the best theory out there.
Speaker 8 (33:33):
He knows what's up and what's Let's just keep it
a buck. You're getting cutting the off season. You need
to put some good tape out there for these last
five weeks everybody's looking at the Cowboys, and put some
quality tape out there. Go get paid somewhere next year
and then I can figure out how much the game
means to me and all the other stuff. But I
think he'll be terrific for these last hovery many games
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they have left.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
I'll say this, I think the Cowboys have a right
approach with him right now. They're not going to throw
him out there and give him starting reps immediately. They've
talked about it still being a rotation where he comes
in and I wouldn't expect him to play more than
thirty thirty five snaps if he does play on Thursday
against the Lions, and I think that's the right thing
to do. Not only are you cutting him in the offseason,
but you need to develop develop some of these guys
behind him, not only Savone Revel, but Caitlin Carson's played
(34:17):
really well. Deron Bland. You know, what does that look
like for his snap count as well. I wouldn't mind
seeing some tra Quiz Bridges snaps here and there. Still,
you know, I think that's a rookie that does have
potential with his frame and his size. You still have
to plan for the future, but also realize that Treyvon
Diggs gives you an element when he's on the field
and he's healthy. But that's the big question, is that
health part.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Well, but it's supposed to be a meritocracy. You can't
just give him that. You just can't make him a
starter again, right, I mean, it's been a long time
since he's been good. Twenty twenty one led the NFL
in interceptions, but he's missed more games than he's played
by a factor of about three. Yeah, since then. But
I can see him helping you out as a nickel corner,
letting Bland go play inside in a game like this
(34:58):
two minutes. I can definitely see him helping. I mean,
and Shotty was asked specially about him playing safety. He
kind of dismissed it, thank you, but he said, hey,
he could add his best. He's still shut down corner.
Can he still be his best? I don't know, but
he could still be better than some of the bottom
end guys on the rost corner.
Speaker 8 (35:19):
For somebody like him to me just about where's it is,
you know, and how focused he is and how much
you know, sometimes your focus can be whatever it can be.
I want to show you that I can really play,
so I can then say f you or screw you
or give you double birds or whatever whatever your internal moment.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
And you talked about making him play to win a game,
He could do that.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Oh absolutely.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Who's the last Cowboy player that fell off so much?
See That's why I was gonna go with touch signing
money and just like man just happened, what happened to
you happened.
Speaker 6 (35:53):
He's the first one that comes to mind for sure.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
Well, Jerry mentioned to guys that he paid too early steal.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
And the white paid steal.
Speaker 6 (36:03):
Yeah, that one confused me. And he had not played
one game since destroying his knee.
Speaker 8 (36:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Yeah, so I probably say if you know we're talking about,
you know guys who the last is still December to
remember because they'll be going. It'll be treyvon Diggs and
most likely Terrence Steele, because if you're trying to find
money to pay George Pickens and Brandon Arbor, you're gonna
have to go, you know, look at some, uh, look
at some.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
But Zeke was better. He's a better player for longer
than Diggs was.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
And Zeke.
Speaker 8 (36:34):
I don't think what Zeke fell off into me in
part because he's just running back, and that's what happens
to them, especially if you have the workload that he ads.
It wasn't that, you know, he had to necessarily pull
his head out his keyster and no sane general manager
in general pays a running back six ninety six at
that point in his career.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
Well, the Cowboys told you what they thought of their
future with Digs when they wouldn't pay him the five
hundred thousand dollars bonus because he didn't meet the criteria
preferment to we don't like you to work out and
rehab with the people here. When you're taking five hundred
thousand and half a million dollars from a player, you're
telling him you're not long for our organization.
Speaker 8 (37:13):
And when a player gives up five hundred thousand dollars
and now you got to do is come here and
work out, that says a little bit about him.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
And we all see where it's going now.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
And if we winning, somebody else's kid next to you.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Yeah, and look, this is this is the business.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
Once you've paid Bland, you know, to me, that was
the riding on the wall of just okay, this is
this is going You're not going to pay two corners
that kind of money. Only one guy's gonna get paid.
And so they're going to take take Digs his money
and redistribute to other places as you should. Because George Pickens,
George Pickens has to be paid. And so you're gonna
have to look internally. Okay, here's some candidate money.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Hey, well, I guess they'll franchise.
Speaker 6 (37:51):
But either either way, this team is more in the
red and twenty twenty six salary cop wise than any
other team.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
In the NFL.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
I know, man, you did gloom into last week.
Speaker 6 (38:00):
I'm just telling you they're gonna have a lot, a
lot of things to figure out, a lot of things
to figure out. It's not just dicks. It won't be
just steal Clark. They're gonna have to really figure out
some money, no doubt, Stevens.
Speaker 8 (38:10):
You just need to make it coincide with Dak's deal
because that's your window to win. Yeah, so everything after that,
who cares go make it happen during this two or
three year window with.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
An owner that's eighty two years old. Hey, many, just
fix it.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
All he shows, every decisions, every decision he's making right now,
is all about Dak, you know, all about making sure
there's a difference between Dak's career and Romos.
Speaker 8 (38:34):
Well' see that's interesting because it's all about Dek. But
you signed these defensive guys too to make it all
about Deck where he ain't got to score thirty nine
points a game, and I'm all for keeping all three tackles.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
I don't really care.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
And Jerry we trust, eh nick ed Jock, Nobody comment.
That's our show. So I did the next time right
here on the medium.
Speaker 6 (38:55):
Because we want to be here next time.
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And oh yes, they won the they won. They won
their rivalry game, Ohio State, the game on Super Bowl.
It's not it's a it's a good rivalry. It's not
the game.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
It's not the best robbery in the country. It's it's not.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
It's a good game though, And I'm so glad that
I got to cover it and be a part of it.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I got to see it. But you know, it's it's different.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Man, because it's not Georgia Alabama.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
It's it's not Alabama. Auburn.
Speaker 6 (01:18):
I would the Iron Bowl on Saturday. Let me tell you,
I've been in a lot of NFL stadiums by now,
a handful of college ones. That's the best environment I've
ever been.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
In in the USC.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
All right.
Speaker 6 (01:29):
Where they playing it at Saint John Bosco.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
I mean when it's and this is just me, when
it's in state, it's just different. It's different because you know,
you are Ohio and man school up norwith we ain't
going up north, even the commercial Eddie George, I mean,
we're gonna drive around Michigan.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Alabama, Man is right there.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
It's right there, and the pettiness is real.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
And being poor Auburn.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
I mean they keep firing folks left it right because
they can't be beat Alabama.
Speaker 7 (01:56):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
It's it's it's it's rough. It's rough. Now, you know.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
My man Johnoper finally got got in Ohio state because
he couldn't beat Michigan. But I do think it's a
fantastic rivalry. But I don't view it as to me,
I don't view it bigger than the Iron Bowl.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
That's just me. That's me.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
It's bigger than Detroit and Dallas, you know.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Having Dan Campbell, former tabloids still sauty don.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Who we embarrassed this franchise last year one of the
worst home defeats of the Jerry Jones era, maybe the worst.
Thirty eight points.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
I mean, how many form I mean, we had a
couple of assistants come back here and late on the cab,
but Mike Dicka did forty four to nothing on Thanksgiving Day.
Tom Landry, yeah yeah, Sean Payton came out here one
time and threw it up. I mean, will I tell
you when they leave here, they come back, they come
back looking for blood.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
Wait till that Mike McCarthy revenge tour starts in New
York next year the Giants.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
He's gonna be the Giants coach.
Speaker 8 (02:46):
They'll only lose bout tenow.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I like Mike. I like Mike. I appreciated Mike's time here.
It's fine appreciated.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
It's a perfectly solid football coach.
Speaker 9 (03:01):
Mike.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Mike just wasn't made for this. Now, he wasn't made
for this. Jerry I was talking to somebody.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
It's hard to go from the only franchise that has
no owner to franchise that he has an owner, and
so the owner.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Those were the things I talked about.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
I was like, man, this guy came from a whole
totally different atmosphere into this thing.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
And I can't remember which draft day press for it was.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
So there's Jerry Steven and Mike McCarthy at the podium
and he ain'tbody asking Mike anything. And then then somebody asked,
Mike says, I do you know why I'm here? And
I think ourself correct because we know you're not giving
us anything. We know we know who's giving us stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
And I said it.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
What I liked about Schottenheimer, I said, he reminds me
of reading Joe Torrey's book The Yankeeers. Joe knew how
to deal with George Steinbrenner. And because Shoty had been
here for three years, he'd seen but he saw everything
and behind how it worked that he's I feel like
he's done a very good job.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I just never felt like Mike was comfortable.
Speaker 8 (03:57):
They also feed his personality because you can understand how
it worked, as much as you want to instill not
be able to work with you.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah, like the radio show stuff.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Well, he also hasn't accomplished anything near like what Mike
had accomplished when he came here all right, true, true,
but he was grateful to be a first time head
coach after twenty five years in the league. Mike came
here as a guy who won a Super Bowl and
one division championships in Green Bay and hell one is
championship in Jerry's and Jerry's palace.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah, key too.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
To me.
Speaker 8 (04:28):
The key has always been is you can be really
happy to have the job, but you can't acquiesce to
everything that the owner says and does. Now, however, you
don't acquiesce. You can actuates behind the scenes privately, you
can manipulate it, but you just can't be that.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
Job can't be more important than winning.
Speaker 8 (04:50):
Yes, job, yes, And Mike, I think got caught up in.
I need a job, so whatever, whatever, whatever, get the job.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Now I'm stuck in and I can't do nothing.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
I think the these Hindrance two is five years in,
he was still treating this like it was Green Bay.
It's just not. It's it's completely different.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
That's what.
Speaker 6 (05:07):
I don't think he ever crossed that mental threshold.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, that's it. Shot, He's done a good job thus far.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
And that's when you say that. And it's just my
opinion thinking that they did things the right way. We
won a championship. You're doing things the way you're doing
them and you're not winning anything. I've won a super
Bowl in your building.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
You could not beat us in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
True, even when I was coaching.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Yes, right, So so I think that part of what
you're saying is is I think he had that that like,
they're doing it better than you.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Even when I'm here, they're still doing him better than
New York.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
But clearly so if Green, if if the New York
Giants turn to Mike McCarthy, I would I would be surprised.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
It makes sense.
Speaker 8 (05:51):
It's the same type of atmosphere. It's a little bit
different because the owners not there, but New York and
all the things that come with being in New York
is the same type of you got to deal with
everything is a big story, even when it's really not.
Speaker 10 (06:03):
See from a roster construction standpoint, it makes a lot
of sense from that. Yeah, I don't know how you
would deal with that media, That's what I'm saying. I
don't know how you would deal with it because he
he thought it was.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Rough here, Yes, and Bay and the fans didn't like him.
You know, those things are there.
Speaker 8 (06:20):
So but this is a largely tough I think it's
a tough, but it's not as tough as it used
to be.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
As I'm an old man, but tough but fair media.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Tough media market here. I don't Philadelphia well, no, no, no, no, no, no,
that's Kyrie.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
No Philadelphia. I mean New York is is a bit.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
I mean, you know, like I said, every Philadelphia is worse.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Everything gets blown out of proportion.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
I mean, I mean, guys, I was told somebody one
reason why Kyrie works good here is because the media
here is nicer. And also, by the way, the maths, yeah,
we'll see you after the All of that matters, and
and yeah, I think guys can get along here a
lot better than Philadelphia, Boston, New York.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
It's not as contentious here, it's not.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
And in green Bay, yes, green Bay's the fans, the
media there is, they're they're more favorable. I mean, I
think that that's also what happens when you have a
one team, one team in town. You know they're going
to be You're you're more apt to giving them a
lot more favorable coverage and not pushing back as much
as versus number poor Nick Sirianni. I mean this man's
been in two Super Bowls and they've been giving this
(07:27):
man the business for three weeks now, I mean they
are on him.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
They are on himself.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Yes, going to Detroit here to face Dan Campbell and
uh Dan's got his own issues. All of a sudden, Yeah,
all of a sudden seven and five football team?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Are we surprised? From this perspective?
Speaker 8 (07:46):
You lose what everybody said was the best offense coordinating
in the league lost Like that was my thing? That
was and we ain't even talked about Aaron Glynn yet.
Coaching matters at the at the elite level and in
the game or the type talent is so close, coaching matters.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
I about Ben Johnson leaves a fifteen win Detroit team
and goes to a division rival and they're in first place,
in the number one seed in the NFC and the
space of his first eleven games? Is that goach?
Speaker 3 (08:14):
You guys ask.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
That's a big anniversary like Friday was a big anniversary.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
I mean, look, I've always thought of that because one
of my buddiess big Bear fans, because he was every
time he was a man.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
What are you doing with flutes.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
I mean, he's just been giving me the business, the business,
and I'm like, you guys would be like you guys
will be okay, but.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
I'm like, wow, Wow, what a difference the coaching jobs made.
Speaker 7 (08:39):
Man.
Speaker 8 (08:40):
My sister is a card carrying Bears fan who lives
in Philly and who went to the game Wow, dressed
under cover what she said until we scored that last
touch and everybody left, and she's I mean, she'll text
you all day long about Ben Johnson. And you know,
y'all keep ebra flues down there for please.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
They don't wonder how that feels, how it feels to camp,
you know, if you're flu how does that feel? Just
to see what they They fired you and they were
right and they're now thriving.
Speaker 8 (09:11):
Well, they don't know. Coaches never view it that way.
They're like, well, if they doesn't allow me to do
this and allowed me to do that, then if I'd
had one more year with Caleb, I'd been able to
getting ready to you know how coaches do that.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
And I'm not sure he left there as a big
fan of Caleb Williams and doubt he expected him to
have the kind of success under Ben Johnson or anybody
else that he's had so far of the season.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
They're doing it without their best player on defense too,
in Jalen Johnson. That's that's an added element to it.
It's like the guy who you helped succeed, it's not
him that's leading the NFL in interceptions and takeaways, it's
everybody else well.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
And to the point about the Lions, Yeah, that was
the big pre game preseason story was they lost both
their coordinators. Very seldom has that happened in the NFL
that a team loses two coordinators in the same offseason.
I think it's only happened like three or four time
happened to Philadelphi. But I think the bigger absences now
(10:04):
are Aman Ross, Saint Brown and Sam Laporta and Kirby Joseph.
That's what they're missing now. They're missing the personnel who
can make a difference on the field.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Rank right now, center who tried to come back and
fail the physical I mean, you know up front, I
mean when you get it, and we saw it with
traps front.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Hey, you know you don't have a grade three shams because.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
They're tough, they don't think anything of that.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
And Grade three is like off the bone a one or.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Two, Like, Okay, I feel a little discomfort. Oh really no,
this is great.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
I gotta do is pass this physical and I make
ten million.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
How's that thing?
Speaker 8 (10:37):
Especially teams pass whoever they want to on the physical.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I mean, you had one arm hanging up. We need
NEWI pass mon physical.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
The Dolphins wouldn't pass Drew Brees.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
That's what I'm saying. You just passed who you want to.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
That's what I say. On the players. How bad is
it when the medicals have get Nah, we can't do it.
Speaker 8 (10:53):
So when they don't want to pass you, they're like, man,
we you g a't gonna be able to help us.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
We're going we just get paying out medical. And yeah,
it's just good.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
So the Lions have got the Lions have got some
issues there. And I was in the locker room yesterday
and and I we talked to Osudzua and and and
Quinn Williams came out and talked out to the media.
And I just think the way you get to Jared
Goffice pressure at the middle, the Cowboys can run a
five man front up there and be able to be
stout in the run game and get to Jared.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
But you better stop the run first, because they've had
two hundred over two hundred yards rushing three times. Only
the Bears match that this year. And Gibbs is a
touchdown waiting to happen in any phase of the game,
on offense and from any place on the field. He's
got the three fast three of the four fastest next
gen times in the league.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
He's got his coach back this year to Shark Choice
recruited him and developed him at Georgia Tech and h
Over Cowboy running yep and and interviewed here for the
running backs job. Cowboys went with Derek Foster instead.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
So co worked out well for everybody.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
Is so far so good? Yeah, so far, so good.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Gibbs like number three in rushing or four, and then
Jamontey's about.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
Forty four touchdowns already. He's only been in the league
for three years. He's got four touchdowns. Want four touchdowns?
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Not bad for a guy.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
Barry Sanders is the only guy who has more right.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Fans booed on the draft dayly, what are we doing
with this guy?
Speaker 5 (12:14):
What do we take of this guy? What twelfth or
something like that. What are they gonna do with this guy,
not even every down player, Brad.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
It'd be pretty interesting if you can look at the
draft records of Pro Bowlers that were drafted by Brad
Holmes and what Will McLay has done, because the two
of the best personnel people out here. You know, what
a sensational job that Brad has done.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
But your point about golf, it is really all about that,
because he's got the biggest statistical drop off for any
quarterback in football when he's not under pressure versus when
he is under duress. I mean, it goes from like
one of the top three passers in football to the
absolute worst. So if you can handle the run game
(12:54):
on the early downs and pressure him, especially up the middle,
like this team can do, going to be prob. And
obviously they're they're on their third center right now.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
I mean this this I'm shooting. I know you feel
I just get into the fourth quarter, be the cops.
Get this thing to the fourth quarter, get it the
fourth quarter, and make it a winnable football game.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
And they didn't get into the second quarter of the
last time they played them. That was here.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
That's what we're saying. That's uh, that's McCarthy. It's different times.
It's different in it. It's different.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Ed gotta get on that blue Magic Man that hope.
Man fans are on it. Man fans are on it.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
What if they win this ball game, they should be
favored in their final four games of the year.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
I said that on the other podcast too. It's like
after this they said their favorite and everything, and this.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
Is going to be twenty twenty three again for the Eagles.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
We talked a little bit about that too.
Speaker 8 (13:43):
You know, I think this schedule is too just there's
too many easy games.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Yeah easy.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
They already lost to the Giants once.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
I'll tell you what, playing the Commanders twice in three
weeks with Jade and Daniels. They also have to go
to Buffalo and they have to play the Chargers on
a Monday night at so far.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Hope justin Herbert plays, Yeah, yeah. Otherwise it's Trey Lance, right,
the playoffs, Hope.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
So it's it's it's interting. I just I just don't
see them.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Doing I think they got a game against the Raiders too, right, Yes,
they do.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
You have a game against mentioned that one.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
If you look at that schedule that this happened to
them again last time two years ago. It wasn't that similar.
Speaker 8 (14:17):
Well, you know, to your point, they are a team
that will implode from the inside, and so they've been
one level. It doesn't really matter who you play because
you just destroy yourself.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
Well, I mean, AJ Brown's called it an s show
the whole year, right, and now it's the other side
of the ball too. They just gave up three hundred
yards rushing to the Bears. What the Cowboys do to
them the week before that.
Speaker 8 (14:41):
It's not with their and see their coach is not
to me. It's what we say all the time. You
take on personality of coach, be it McCarthy or be
it Shoddy, or be it Syrianne who's all over the place.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
And Syrianni's saying, I'm not changing the play caller. It's
not his. Everybody else there wants to call Kevin Patulo fired, right,
he's he what did you say when he got to
his press conference after the game the other day, I'm
not changing the play caller. So what's he saying? It's
the players? It's the players because.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
I didn't call plays in Indianapolis. I ain't called on
looked at me. I'm not fixing this.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
He called them earlier there I.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Say this, man, it's fun to watch. It is.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
It is fun to watch, and that's that's a good thing.
I was once worried about the NBC game against Minnesota
getting flexed.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I ain't cowboys it.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
As long as they're in the hunt, they're gonna be there,
so it's gonna happen here. All right, let's get a
break when we come back here, let's talk about Dak Prescott,
who spoke to the media today.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
We'll do that next with Jack ed Nick. I'm knew
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Speaker 4 (18:53):
By the way, congratulations on on your coach, Eric Morris
getting a gig but at the same time still being
able to coach the team this week in the American
Conference Championship against Tulane.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
But we're Lane Kiffin got the idea.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I see they're doing it. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
So it's a pretty interesting American Confience Championship where both
coaches are leading. So Tulane's coach some roles going to
Florida and your guys going to Oklahoma State.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
Is there anybody outside of l s U in the
state of Louisiana that thinks Lane Kiff and LSU is.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Actually gonna work.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
There's there's just a zero percent. It's gonna crash and burn.
They're gonna have to buy him out.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Work fine, work though, okay, work.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
That doesn't happen.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Work better than Brian Kelly.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
Sure.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
I don't think he'll even reach Brian Kelly level. I
think that's gonna be bad. I think that's gonna be
a defends on where.
Speaker 8 (19:44):
It depends on you know, does he does he take
them to uh where they believe they deserve to be
every year?
Speaker 3 (19:52):
I think he'll be better than Brian Kelly.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Can they go eleven one, eleven two every year?
Speaker 4 (19:59):
He a he's been in the sec understands it. Where
Brian Kelly, I mean, the guy came in with the
fake accent so right out you're just you're faking it
from the front.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
So he didn't get that part of it.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
So Lane, if you do what he did at Old Miss,
you can go to l s U and do that too,
you know, you know, go out there and get the
right talent, find a quarterback, coach him up. I think
I think he'll be No, I know he'll be better
than Ryan Kelly. Will he win a championship? I mean
at O'scheron is not exactly going down as a guy
(20:30):
who offer right right, the same, yeah, the same note
sat Bill waltsh you know Bill wall Street coming at
oon and that guy won a championship. I mean, think
about it. So minus Brian Kelly.
Speaker 10 (20:41):
Thest roster in college football's gonna have a for sure
for sure he can recruit.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
So if you so, you take out Brian Kelly, who
had no clue about sec life mainly was up there.
And because Cincinnati, Michigan all that, so o'jeron ended up
winning a championship. Guy before him, less Miles wanted championship
do before that, Nick same win the championship. Lane Kiffin
will be better than Brian Kelly. And I don't think
it's hard at that place, with the money they've got
(21:10):
for him to be in a to be in a
position to win one.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
Y'all have been around here long enough. How is his
pops to deal with?
Speaker 8 (21:16):
It's great, Yeah, because they're relevant by the time he
got you true real tough. I mean he's he was
relevant because he had done great things. They didn't do
anything here.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Bat Hire.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah, he was a name higher is a convenient name.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
He was a jag at that point.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Yeah sounds but he wasn't always no, no, he was
at one point he.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Was that dude.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Yes, speaking of money Kiffin the gym today, I saw
Brod Maynell.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
I ain't talked to him.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
He's still just you know, walking around getting his work
out in Man wearing his black at black Yeah, I
said Hey.
Speaker 8 (21:51):
I've had that contract for Tristan Hill in his back
pocket holiday time.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
It's Christmas.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Man wants a tough football.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
No, I know you talk whatever you want to show.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
He's like, not how I would run it to our show,
Dak Press.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
I've already tried to redirect you guys several times.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Yes, yes you have, Dak Prescott. Yeah, what did you
find in Lightning today?
Speaker 5 (22:15):
What's that I like? I like that he talked about
the confidence that they're playing with coming out for these
three wins, that he uh, he's very honest about how
he've used this game, how important it is, and the
most fascinating part of the game within the game to
me is you know, he's he's playing his best football
(22:36):
right now. And we've said that a lot in recent years,
but I think it's hard to argue that he's not
playing as well as he's ever played right now with
these two receivers. I mean, the three hundred yard passing
games leads the NFL. In that leads the NFL, and
he has three straight games, all wins, where he's completed
two hundred yards in passing to his two wide receivers.
(22:56):
I think they need that kind of game against this line,
this team, And it was interesting to me that Dak
and the two receivers both talked about how unique it
is the way the Lions try to play you, that
it's unlike anything else they've seen this year in terms
of they get up, press man in your face, making
contact with you the line of scrimmage. You don't know
what kind of how the officials are gonna call it.
(23:17):
You know, Dak selling them would be physical at the
top of the routes and off the line of script.
So I think it's interesting, gonna be an interesting matchup there.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
So stay right there, And this is one I was
doing another podcast, so I missed Dak. Does it still
matter going up against Jared Goff? Because in that draft class,
GARYT Jared went number one overall, and for a while
there was like, hey, there's there's Dak versus Carson Wentz
because Carson taking number two and he was a Philly
and then he had Jared Goff and then you know,
comparing Dak, who went in the fourth round to these
(23:45):
two gags.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
Well, the interesting thing to me was somebody said to
Dak ask him about the quarterback class and how he's
passed golf, and I'm sorry, are you sure? Like Goff
went to a Super Bowl? Right, Goff's had more playoff
success that Dak has had. He didn't play well in
the Super Bowl. He had even play average, they would
have won a game they had the Patriots beat, I
asked Wade Phillips, who should have won that game? Yes,
(24:07):
but I don't know that Dak really thinks he needs
to stand out against somebody else who was drafted higher
than him in his class. I think he looks at
himself as more among the more elite quarterbacks in football,
even though you can argue like I have, that Goff
has accomplished more.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Now, why do you think he's playing so well?
Speaker 5 (24:25):
I think I think the system fits him. I think
having a running game and be in play action is huge.
Like I wrote this last year, nobody reads me, obviously,
but I wrote I wrote at the end of last
year that McCarthy, if you're going to get rid of McCarthy.
To me, it was because he's got Dak playing exclusively
(24:47):
in a shotgun seventy three percent of the time. And
Dak would be so much more effective if he played
like Jared Goff, if he played like stat Matthew Stafford
in under center with the threat of the running game,
and he he says that's that's the way he likes
to play like, that's the part of the game he
enjoys the most, and they've been usually successful at it.
So I think it's the system. I think it's the
(25:08):
aggressive play calling style. I think it's the players around him,
like Javonte Williams has been great. Booker obviously has helped
protect him with his first round draft pick and then Pickens.
I mean, I'm not sure he's ever He's had good
receivers a couple of times before, but I'm not sure
he's ever had two this good.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
And you're tight end that you can rely on.
Speaker 8 (25:27):
Yeah, I think it's uh and I think it's We've
talked all about it, but you know, he can really
move this year. And I'm not talking about necessarily running
for ten or fifteen yards. I'm talking about like on
that touchdown pass to Javonte, where he's moving laterally, then
he steps up, then moves latterly again, then he flips
it to him and you know, even now on the
(25:48):
two point or the one to pick it in the
corner where he's on the move and he's just so
he appears to be so much more mobile, whether it
was the work that he did because of his hamstring
or he's you know, now five years later, fully over
his ankle. Whatever that movement is that last little piece
to go with his mind and his ability to me
this And that.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
Was a big question coming into the year. Didn't you think, like, sure,
legitimate he could he manipulate the pocket and avoid the rush,
could he extend plays? Could he still be accurate? And
he's done all those things.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
He's been phenomenal this year.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
And with the play action specifically, I mean, these are
the two best play action quarterbacks in the league for
my money, and with Dak and his increased mobility, it
only increases the effectiveness of that play action and statistically
he's been the best this year.
Speaker 8 (26:31):
Let me ask you another question, because I'm curious what
makes a good play action quarterback?
Speaker 6 (26:35):
Just be able to make quick decisions because typically if.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Your back is to the defense, yeah, so you have.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
To be comfortable with that. And then, as he has
said several you know a lot of people who talk
about play action, they say, you don't really have to
have a good running game to have good play action,
but Dak says it's all about the running.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Yeah, a real threat.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
He has said that several times, like there's been a
few years where we just weren't that good at running
the football.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Well now we are last year. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
Oh, I think he's meant for the past three or four.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
You yeah, yeah, Nick, What else did you get out
of Dak?
Speaker 12 (27:04):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (27:04):
Yeah, I was bouncing from Dak over to the locker
room in the middle of that, but special cover. Yeah,
you know, I'm trying to try to do what I can,
but it He had said something about Dan Campbell and
he was asked about, you know, Dan Campbell and is
it personal for Dan Campbell? You see how they won
last year and kind of felt like they were rubbing
it in a little bit. He was like, well, you know,
(27:26):
I don't. I don't feel like there should be any
pride because it's one one right now, Like neither of
us should have any pride in this matchup or rivalry
right now. And there was a quote that he had
I'm trying to remember off talking about brain but I can't,
but that was basically what he said and being like,
hey man, like it's there's there's no you know, animosity
or anything between both sides. But you know, if he
feels the increased desire to win, and he's no different
than any of the other opponents because that's Cowboys typically
(27:48):
do have the target on their back, you know, weekend,
week out. So I thought that was fascinating and just
kind of an interesting wrinkle into this.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
He said, you said, he's comfortable doing that, like he
beats us all the time, and that's not what's really happened.
He's won one and we've won one.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Is this a mini playoff game? Lions has habited five
right now, Cowboys six has.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
The Lions are just as desperate as the Cowboys. If
you listen to Dan Gamble.
Speaker 6 (28:13):
Yeah, it has to be. Both teams need this win.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Dan's inventing reasons to be may so yeah, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Well, the thing for Dallas is, like Dallas still has, Unbelievably,
Dallas's best shot is probably to win its division. For
the Eagles to falter like they did in twenty twenty
three when they finished they started ten to one and
lost five of their last six, and Dallas overtook them.
Neither party wants to talk about what those teams did
in the playoffs, but Dallas wind up winning the division
(28:40):
in a situation where that seemed inconceivable, right, And so
when Philly came here two weeks ago, they had the
biggest lead of any team in the NFL. They're up
four and a half games on Dallas. They could there
was I remember reading the stuff from ESPN research said
the Eagles could clinch as soon as week thirteen, which
by the way, is now okay, and that hasn't happened.
(29:02):
All of a sudden, Dallas has closed it to a
game and a half. They're closer to the Eagles than
they are to the forty nine Ers as a final
wild card team.
Speaker 8 (29:09):
And if they figure out a way to win, because
I still think Detroit wins, but if they figure out
a way to win, then it's the pressure that you
put on Philadelphia, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
Because then they got to go place the Chargers three
days later on Monday Night football and we have to
hear Erberts there and now, all of a sudden, Oh
but god, if we lose, we're down to a half
a game.
Speaker 8 (29:28):
Yeah, and the Cowboys and then they'll look at this.
I mean, it then becomes, you know, a self fulfilling
prophecy in many different ways.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
But that's a big that's a big chasm to leap.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
But if you could, if you can beat the Eagles
and then beat the Chiefs in four days, you can
beat the Lions.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Oh, you can definitely beat the Lions.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Although I do think it was advantageous to the Cowboys
to play the Chiefs four days later rather than them
have a full week of prep. Yeah.
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all right. Trayvon Diggs set the return number seven. Defense
keeps getting more pieces, the reinforcements are on the way.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Well, I think it's I think it's great. I think
he'll come back.
Speaker 8 (33:13):
He's uh maybe he's over his heartbreak with Micah getting traded.
He pulled his head out his keyster and now he's ready.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
To uh shot.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
How he got his concussion pulling his head out. It
is still a mystery.
Speaker 6 (33:26):
Oh, I'll tell you what. That's the best theory we
have right now. That's the best theory out there.
Speaker 8 (33:33):
He knows what's up and what's Let's just keep it
a buck. You're getting cutting the off season. You need
to put some good tape out there for these last
five weeks everybody's looking at the Cowboys, and put some
quality tape out there. Go get paid somewhere next year
and then I can figure out how much the game
means to me and all the other stuff. But I
think he'll be terrific for these last hovery many games
(33:53):
they have left.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
I'll say this, I think the Cowboys have a right
approach with him right now. They're not going to throw
him out there and give him starting reps immediately. They've
talked about it still being a rotation where he comes
in and I wouldn't expect him to play more than
thirty thirty five snaps if he does play on Thursday
against the Lions, and I think that's the right thing
to do. Not only are you cutting him in the offseason,
but you need to develop develop some of these guys
behind him, not only Savone Revel, but Caitlin Carson's played
(34:17):
really well. Deron Bland. You know, what does that look
like for his snap count as well. I wouldn't mind
seeing some tra Quiz Bridges snaps here and there. Still,
you know, I think that's a rookie that does have
potential with his frame and his size. You still have
to plan for the future, but also realize that Treyvon
Diggs gives you an element when he's on the field
and he's healthy. But that's the big question, is that
health part.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Well, but it's supposed to be a meritocracy. You can't
just give him that. You just can't make him a
starter again, right, I mean, it's been a long time
since he's been good. Twenty twenty one led the NFL
in interceptions, but he's missed more games than he's played
by a factor of about three. Yeah, since then. But
I can see him helping you out as a nickel corner,
letting Bland go play inside in a game like this
(34:58):
two minutes. I can definitely see him helping. I mean,
and Shotty was asked specially about him playing safety. He
kind of dismissed it, thank you, but he said, hey,
he could add his best. He's still shut down corner.
Can he still be his best? I don't know, but
he could still be better than some of the bottom
end guys on the rost corner.
Speaker 8 (35:19):
For somebody like him to me just about where's it is,
you know, and how focused he is and how much
you know, sometimes your focus can be whatever it can be.
I want to show you that I can really play,
so I can then say f you or screw you
or give you double birds or whatever whatever your internal moment.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
And you talked about making him play to win a game,
He could do that.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Oh absolutely.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Who's the last Cowboy player that fell off so much?
See That's why I was gonna go with touch signing
money and just like man just happened, what happened to
you happened.
Speaker 6 (35:53):
He's the first one that comes to mind for sure.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
Well, Jerry mentioned to guys that he paid too early steal.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
And the white paid steal.
Speaker 6 (36:03):
Yeah, that one confused me. And he had not played
one game since destroying his knee.
Speaker 8 (36:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Yeah, so I probably say if you know we're talking about,
you know guys who the last is still December to
remember because they'll be going. It'll be treyvon Diggs and
most likely Terrence Steele, because if you're trying to find
money to pay George Pickens and Brandon Arbor, you're gonna
have to go, you know, look at some, uh, look
at some.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
But Zeke was better. He's a better player for longer
than Diggs was.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
And Zeke.
Speaker 8 (36:34):
I don't think what Zeke fell off into me in
part because he's just running back, and that's what happens
to them, especially if you have the workload that he ads.
It wasn't that, you know, he had to necessarily pull
his head out his keyster and no sane general manager
in general pays a running back six ninety six at
that point in his career.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
Well, the Cowboys told you what they thought of their
future with Digs when they wouldn't pay him the five
hundred thousand dollars bonus because he didn't meet the criteria
preferment to we don't like you to work out and
rehab with the people here. When you're taking five hundred
thousand and half a million dollars from a player, you're
telling him you're not long for our organization.
Speaker 8 (37:13):
And when a player gives up five hundred thousand dollars
and now you got to do is come here and
work out, that says a little bit about him.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
And we all see where it's going now.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
And if we winning, somebody else's kid next to you.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Yeah, and look, this is this is the business.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
Once you've paid Bland, you know, to me, that was
the riding on the wall of just okay, this is
this is going You're not going to pay two corners
that kind of money. Only one guy's gonna get paid.
And so they're going to take take Digs his money
and redistribute to other places as you should. Because George Pickens,
George Pickens has to be paid. And so you're gonna
have to look internally. Okay, here's some candidate money.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Hey, well, I guess they'll franchise.
Speaker 6 (37:51):
But either either way, this team is more in the
red and twenty twenty six salary cop wise than any
other team.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
In the NFL.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
I know, man, you did gloom into last week.
Speaker 6 (38:00):
I'm just telling you they're gonna have a lot, a
lot of things to figure out, a lot of things
to figure out. It's not just dicks. It won't be
just steal Clark. They're gonna have to really figure out
some money, no doubt, Stevens.
Speaker 8 (38:10):
You just need to make it coincide with Dak's deal
because that's your window to win. Yeah, so everything after that,
who cares go make it happen during this two or
three year window with.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
An owner that's eighty two years old. Hey, many, just
fix it.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
All he shows, every decisions, every decision he's making right now,
is all about Dak, you know, all about making sure
there's a difference between Dak's career and Romos.
Speaker 8 (38:34):
Well' see that's interesting because it's all about Dek. But
you signed these defensive guys too to make it all
about Deck where he ain't got to score thirty nine
points a game, and I'm all for keeping all three tackles.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
I don't really care.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
And Jerry we trust, eh nick ed Jock, Nobody comment.
That's our show. So I did the next time right
here on the medium.
Speaker 6 (38:55):
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