September 9, 2025 • 46 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
This is media Match, a roundtable of Cowboys insiders trumping
wisdom and offering sizzling takes on the current state of
your Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Now your host New he scrugs here, we are, folks.
The first media mash of the regular season is underway.
Here from the Star in Frisco, we got Nick Harris
and the foot Wall Star Telegram, Bobby Belt one O
five three Fan Cowboys Radio Home jj T. The author
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is here working on another new book. I know he's
been putting in that work. Brother. I feel for you,
manew how many interviews you up to now for your book?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
That?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
No, sir, No, sir, glad you. I'll read it. I'll
read it. I ain't trying to ever do anything like that, man,
And I am New. He scrugs here. So uh, let's
start off the gate with old Jalen Carter, mister spiter, idiot.
I'm sitting there, three of us sitting in the press
by like, is this really happening? Yeah, this this is happening.
(01:15):
Just you hadn't done nothing, ain't done no work and
then you're walking off the big dam. Big dumb is
out here already already puting big dom to work in Philadelphia,
having you going out the gates, I'm like, oh my god.
And somebody said, you think you'll be available? I said, oh, Philadelphia,
he'll be available to talk afterwards. No, you you don't
get to go do something like that and run out,
get your clothes and run out there. I mean you
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would if you're a Cowboy.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
But not feeling, or if you're the Giants backup quarterback.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I guess, yeah, Philadelphia, you get to go. Hey, you
gotta show up, got to get out here to show up. So, uh, Nick,
what what the league has decided no suspension for mister Carter?
What else?
Speaker 5 (01:47):
With no suspension he gets fined, uh the equivalent of
one game check. So basically, in essence, he was suspended
one game by the NFL. But they rolled that Cowboys
game and says one game suspension in essence?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
All right, does everybody think about that.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
They find him a game check?
Speaker 7 (02:03):
Yeah, so I don't know if he gets suspended, like
if he gets thrown out of a game, I don't
think he loses game check. So I'm sure it's just
they're trying to match him getting thrown out of the
game with the game check that he then got. So yeah,
he's essentially no punishment. Yeah, it's essentially no punishment.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
But I don't know, Doug, what salary is he?
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Is he a minimum? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (02:21):
So it's yeah, he's on h it's like a little
over a million. It's like a million thirty thousand or
something like that, and.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
No chump change for you. And I I mean, look
of the day. I mean, think about it. You didn't
play and they took a game check with that that
you got, not you didn't get paid for the week.
You didn't get paid for your week, and you didn't
even play. Luckily, the only good thing that happened for
Jalen Carter is that they won the football game. If
they lose that football game, he's catching in a big,
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much bigger deal. He'd have been catching all kind of
heat in Philadelphia. But you simply cannot do something that
goofy in a game.
Speaker 8 (02:57):
But he'd been doing it, that's who he is. But
you take his talent because he got a mins talent.
But he I mean he did it at Georgie, did
it here? I mean, what Bill PARSI will say about
certain guys. Man, I get it, but still which mean it.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
But that's who he is. I've never seen okay, I've
never seen anybody get thrown out of the game before
before the game, before they first snap, I mean, okay,
they had to kick off. Let me see. I think
that I could be wrong.
Speaker 8 (03:27):
I think when we scrapped with Michigan, we had a
couple guys thrown that before the game or right after
the kickoff, before the first snap from the line of
scrippage that thing.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
We had a couple in AD one or two.
Speaker 7 (03:38):
I think ninety three NFC Championship game. Maybe Beamer knows this.
When they got into a fight in the tunnel between
the Cowboys and forty nine Ers, I think somebody may
have been thrown out then before the game started.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I can't even see a pre game fight. I can
see a pregame fight. But here you are on the field.
Play not happen. You go walk over there to do your.
Speaker 7 (03:59):
John Oh yeah, that's that's a chip on your shoulder.
I mean, looking at looking to be that offended by it.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Quarterback right to me, I said, I said, on you
got that's that's meant that's mental midget right there. I mean,
that's that's the small Your mental capacity is gone. When
you can sit up here and get to a football
game like this, you've been waiting all summer long. You're
a world you're a world chap, you're a champ, you're
the champ, and you got lowering yourself going and doing that.
(04:26):
The no that that's it's it's inexcusable to me. I mean,
this is a guy who's won championships at the collegiate
level and the professional level, and you you let Dak
Prescott get you into that and you're gone. And we
were there with when the Reps came out to training camp.
They told us about the point of emphasis about sports,
like we are going to emphasize this this year. And
we saw a bunch of spinners last year college football Area.
(04:49):
Been at one boy for argument. He can't stop. He
got like three and you know, and they're telling you, man,
you do it, You're gone, you know. I mean, it's
it's I don't I don't get it.
Speaker 7 (05:01):
No, But I mean, to j JT's point, like it is,
this is who he is, Like I mean, and I know,
like it's stunning first, but it's also like the same
where it's stunnying, like why does vontez Perfect keep doing
what vontees Perfect does? Why does this guy keep doing
with this guy like that's that's always been Jalen Carter
and Jalen Carter to your point, like you're a champion.
It's like, yeah, he's done all these things and still man, man,
it's to be a champion at all these different levels
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and had the success that he has.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
I can't even see what vontees but you're playing. I'm
gonna take it a little too. Okay, you're doing something,
but you're not even doing nothing. Man, You just walking
over to the huddling. You got no spitting is at
the top of the disrespect, right I Vontes Berfect. He
tried to get his money's work, you know, he trying
to give you some bit. You're not even giving nobody
no business. You're not doing nothing, You're not doing anything.
(05:44):
I just I just could not believe what I was
watching it.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
Yeah, yeah, I'm with you there.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
Yeah, it's a it was a bonehead mistake and he
paid for it. He paid for it, all right.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Check. So so we're doing the Player's Lounge podcast. I
want to ask you guys this question.
Speaker 8 (06:00):
Miles Sanders, cup by defensive end turned linebacker.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
I can't forget it. I'm just saying, if that yes,
if that doesn't happen, he scores a touchdown, we never
see the fumbel, right, so we're talking yeah, but going
into the you know, going into this game, okay, if
Jayden Blue is available, do you put Jamee Blue in
the game? Now? I went back on a try to
be positive here because it's trying to be it's the
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purpose of you and change in offseason. So four carries
fifty three yards for him in the game, Yeah, one
almost forty nine yards, but he only has seven less
carries a Saquon Barklay in the game. Do you play
him this week against the Giants? Or do you say,
you know what, man, go ahead, sit next to Mazi,
watch this thing and let's go Blue.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
I would be playing Jaden Blue. It doesn't matter what
defensive Sanders. Yes, it doesn't matter what's happening behind the scenes.
In my eyes, that kid has more burst, he has
more acceleration, He has more value in the receiving game
if he is on that forty nine yard run than
he is the one breaking it loose and not getting
caught by Zack Bond.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
So maybe he don't see.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
The hold, maybe he doesn't see the holes A good point,
and maybe that's a good point.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
That's a game, I think.
Speaker 7 (07:11):
I think that's probably too you again, and that's no
disrespect to Jade and Blue.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
I think that was you. Go back and look at
that play.
Speaker 7 (07:16):
That is an incredibly patient veteran run where he's following
his blockers, he's letting the whole develop, and then he's
hitting it. I honestly don't know that there's a ton
of guys that turn that into forty nine yards.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Yeah, I got caught. That sucks.
Speaker 7 (07:28):
I don't know that a lot of guys have the
patients and the vision and the bounce to be able
to just.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Go through that hole and let it develop.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
The way most so't.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Yes, I understand that I'm still rolling with Blue. I
mean the birsty acceleration, you have so much more value
with that.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
With why he's rolling with Blue, I do.
Speaker 8 (07:46):
Look, I love it's deep it in the horns even
though we kick, but I was going this last fourteen seven.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I don't know, let's kick him butt.
Speaker 6 (07:55):
Both looked bad.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
It's all about the young guys.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Man.
Speaker 7 (07:59):
I would like, I honestly have Blue and Sanders active.
I just I wouldn't do it at the expensive either.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Great. Great, I love it because we went down that point. Well.
So if you make Blue and Sanders active, who are
deactivating here, span Ford gonna go less than the tight
end spot maker. I'm down for a misigan guy hit
the pie. Imagine Mosie and Scooney's sitting there with jerseys
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with pomp first.
Speaker 7 (08:29):
I mean, if you're throwing Hunter Lipy out there for
six snaps, what's up with that?
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (08:32):
That one, that's all you're gonna use him for. Make
him inactive and continue to run single back. That confuses
me to.
Speaker 8 (08:40):
Pay that man in this sad mon A bench, he
had more digit more millions than he had.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Please, how about that.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
Good life?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, some of these guys are okay with it, man,
Some of these guys are okay with it.
Speaker 7 (08:53):
So this Alen Carter has more millions than he does
play too, Yes, and.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
So I don't forget that. So that was just one
one thing I thought about. And of course Brian Schottheimer
at the press conference said he wished that Javonte Williams
would have had a couple more carries. He had fifteen carries,
fifty four yards and touchdowns.
Speaker 8 (09:12):
Yeah, okay, in I mean, I mean, if you want
to give him a couple more carries.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I did not have an issue with it at all.
I mean, so fifteen carries for Javonte Barkley had eighteen.
So if he's getting so you got twenty two carries
in the football game, take away one from Dak so
it's twenty one. If he's got fifteen to twenty one,
I don't have an issue with that number. Anybody. No, No,
you're good with that. I am. You got what's good?
Speaker 8 (09:37):
He said he want to give him a couple more,
So give him a couple more.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
So it was twenty two run, twenty two rushes to
thirty four pass attempts. If the Cowboys are doing that,
I don't. I don't have an issue, and I would
I would like to think you're going to be in
most the ability to win most of your football games
if you've got that type of run ratio, and if
you could figure out how to not lose the turnover
battle because they lost a turnover battle, and well, deck
is usually best.
Speaker 8 (09:59):
When he he's right around thirty four to thirty five.
That's his sweet spot.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
That's where I'm thinking, what about you, Nick?
Speaker 5 (10:05):
Yeah, I agree, because then he can he can use
that play action to efficiency as well. Whenever he gets
in the forty forty five range, that play action is
not used to its one hundred percent benefit.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
Yeah, I mean some of it's chicken in the egg,
Like I mean, you're down and so you're throwing the
ball forty times or whatever else, or you're not having success,
you're having to come back versus you get up and
then you're able to run the ball and you are
limiting the attempts. But yeah, I mean generally, his most
efficient games have seen him throwing the ball between thirty
thirty five times something like that.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
And they get the New York Football Giants coming here
on Sunday at Jerry World is going to be a
noon kickoff for the Cowboys here. It's something to kind
of keep in mind is they've lost the game. It
was a divisional game of Philadelphia. Now it's another divisional game.
If you go to two in this league, the chances
of you make in the playoffs will really slim. You
go to two in new of your own division. That's
(10:53):
not good at all, considering you're gonna have the Bears
and the Packers to close out this month. The Cowboys
really neat especially what we saw from Green for the
Packers and what we saw from the Bears. Cowboy's got
to figure out a way how to win the Giants
game in the Bears game for sure, before the Packers
come in here.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
Yeah, this is arguably a must win and week two
that's tough to say, but it is what it is,
and they need to get a stamp in the division.
But not only are the Cowboys trying not to go
into the division, so were the Giants. That's not lost
on them either, coming off of a loss against the Commanders.
So it's a big game. It's a big home opener.
They need to get a win this weekend, no doubt.
Speaker 7 (11:24):
I mean, they go to Own two and it's Owned
too in the division, and you're talking about you drop
what is literally, in theory, the easiest division game you're
supposed to have on the schedule, your Giants at home.
That should be the game where you take care of business. Yeah,
if you were to drop that, that's not a good
omen for this team.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I hadn't even considered them losing this game.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
I had neither.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Actually, I was surprised the line was five and a half.
I feel like this is a double digit win.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
It keeps moving, it's going on, it's going up, going up.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Dak Prescott thirteen and two all time against the Giants.
The last time he lost was twenty sixteen, his rookie
season to the right. Yeah, and there was a game
up there in Jersey.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
So ugly game. It was an ugly, ugly game.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yes, it was an ugly game. And Todd Archie was
adamant in questioning Jason Garrett after it. Why didn't he
put in Tony Romo.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Todds still asking that question.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Todd and I got into it, got into it after
we went on air. Please top put the flag down.
You got to ride for your boys. Man. Come on,
we've all had boys, man, we've all had it. We've
all had client. We've all had our clients. So we
had clients, right, but your client. It was the end. Okay,
it was the end. It was one of those games
where it wasn't all on four. You know, it's like, man,
(12:37):
I know you stopped. It's over. Yeah, man, I had
quinc acquire for a client as well. That's your fault. Sorry,
that's okay.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
See, that's bad the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
That's called a bad that's a bad decision. No, it wasn't.
Speaker 8 (12:48):
He called one dude back when he got cut. He
called one dude back when he got cut, and all
his details splashed two headlines above the fold.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
The build didn't really like me. It was finished job.
He was just waiting.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
They got to keep the box and glove stof so.
Speaker 8 (13:13):
Quincy Levon Carter, Well, I got clients. Man, who was
the last client you had?
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Let me see? And who is your best? Oh?
Speaker 4 (13:23):
What?
Speaker 2 (13:23):
He was my best client. It's my best client. By
the way, for those to understand we're talking about here
in the media mash. When you're in the media, you
do form relationships with pem and some of the relationships
you get are are like they're tight, and when you
get a client, they're giving they're giving you the good stuff.
And also you got to ride with him, ride with him.
(13:45):
Now they get right, they get caught the good and
the bad. You got to ride with you, you know what
I mean. Let's wait on those facts to come out.
You gotta gotta be real gentle with it, like na help.
Speaker 8 (13:58):
It was probably my last client, but because then I
became a columnist, and it's kind of hard. It's not
as hard to have clients as a colminist. But you know, yeah,
I was. I was taking the client becomes your is
your connect your boys.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Roan Washington was a client. Ron wash was good client.
It was great client. Washed a good client. Give you that.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
What about you, bob uh of people not here anymore?
Speaker 8 (14:20):
Right, don't talk about your current client, Brandy Gregory Gregory.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
That's interesting.
Speaker 8 (14:26):
I don't know if he's a good client of bad
clan because he was.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
That was again, Okay, I liked Randy.
Speaker 7 (14:37):
Randy was always I'm still riding.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
I'm running for my client. He's not in the league
I do. Okay, I loved Randy.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
I did that.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
I still love Randy.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Nick just showed up.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
He ain't got no no comment. I haven't been here
long enough.
Speaker 8 (14:48):
He ain't got no clients he could talk about publicly.
Give me about two years.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
You got about forty weeks. He might be out of here.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Oh, don't take no Michigan club right right, Yeah, the best,
the best Michigan clan you could have had Jeordan Lewis
out the door.
Speaker 8 (15:08):
So that was the best one you've had. He's gone,
he's gone. So it was such a good dude, even
though I like, yeah, yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
No, that that's yeah. Roy Williams was good for me.
Which one the dB B royd B Roy was good?
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Man like dB you're besket away from the linebacker.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Roy? Hey man, you know Pro Bowl? Pro Bowl? Pro Bowl?
Roy before they changed rule Roy, Yes, yes, Pro Bowl
Roy was was good, but just said, you do this
job here, there's gonna be connections you have with people
and you're gonna you know, I used to catch heat
in LA because for Shack because this was before this,
this was gonna say was probably have Shag client because
(15:47):
this was this was were getting beat by the Sonics
in the round one and Kobe shooting three air balls
and yell, it was you can't make free. I was
getting that shock the first first three years of Shaquilla,
and you know, Dell got fired and he was he
wasn't dude. I caught hell for Shaquille, but year four
I only came through.
Speaker 6 (16:08):
That's why you stick with your clients.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
That's why you stick with your clients. Well, sometimes you
can find client though, fire clients. You just always say
you just had to make sure whoever you rolle be smart,
be smart. I've seen a whole lot of people like
I don't want if I'd have done that one like that,
that's that was the wrong one. You better be sure
I didn't have I don't have I didn't have many
in my career. But just make sure they're good. And
(16:32):
then you know, and then sometimes you got why do
so and so had his story? Hmm, excuse me, I
don't think I got the call. I've had to do
that a couple of times. I put foots in youtobe.
You're gonna put them in me, I'm putting them in you.
Speaker 7 (16:49):
You were questioning a little bit though, when you're having
to come up with why didn't Shack defend Hersey Hawkins
coming into the paint.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
I used to do an ass Shack set on the radio.
And there's so many nights we had, we had some.
We had some tough ones. Boy, we had we had
some brother, let me tell you. Then the Nikka and
Axel saying one, two, three can coon. There was some
tough nights I went through. I called I used to
catch it. He never because then you make the car
I want to want every little calls them pro. How
(17:22):
do I how do I defend you? Not just you
out here saying what do I mean? I got four
hours of ass whooping because you sitting out here saying
you whatever, little college pro. These high school batters don't
batter kill stop it. But it worked out in the end.
(17:43):
It worked out in the end. Like I said, you
just want to make sure at the end of the day,
too was something happened. Gary Patterson called me and got fired.
First one to have it, so it makes sure that's it.
You know, you want to make sure your people do.
I see some people retire and then the connect didn't
get it, somebody else got it. That's dirty work. That's dirty.
That's dirty work, dirty work. So that is a part
of what we do. Let's take our first break when
(18:04):
we come back. Who is the one player game one
that you all said, you know what, I like what
he did and the one player said I need to
see more. I got it. You gotta be better in
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Speaker 5 (21:11):
Yes, yes, yes, Patrick mahomes a company this year. There's
a lot of family ties in that game. We'll be
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Speaker 4 (21:26):
But no, I know, I know, yeah, Nick, Nick.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
You taking to Clarence Hill. Dirty work, spotty, I.
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Know, yeah, Clarence isn't here. So I'm filling with all
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Speaker 2 (21:46):
Cowboys getting ready for their home opener against the New
York Giants at AT and T Stadium. That game is noon,
So let's go around, No, Horney, I'll start with you, Nick,
give me the one player against Philadelphia said I like
what you did in the other player, Hey, I need
to see more for me A week two.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Yeah, all star were Davonte Williams. Those first two offensive drives.
They were really able to lean on him in the
running game and pick up positive yards to sustained drives.
I didn't feel like they wouldn't be able to do
that out of the gates with Javonte Williams, especially considering
he didn't have a training camp.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
He didn't have a preseats or excuse me, he didn't
have a preseason. He did have a trading camp.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
On the flip side, My god, Kenneth Murray, can we
figure out what to do there? They're going to have
to ride with him for seventeen games and it's going
to be this defense's biggest problem.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
Exactly. And I didn't understand.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
I didn't really understand the love for the trade when
when that trade was made. He's a bad run defender,
he's not athletic, he's not going to be breaking up
into passing lanes. And you saw all of those issues
on display on Thursday night. Look, if you're rolling three
linebackers out out there right now, I'd be going Sanborn
and Clark a Leah fall until Overshown gets back, and
then once Overshown gets back, you flip out Clark and Overshown.
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Sanborne can can handle these green dot responsibilities. He came
from this Everflu's defense in Chicago. He understands the system.
You don't need Murray out there to communicate it. But
I feel like that's going to be the excuse for
eighteen weeks.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
The guy that I was really impressed with was Marshawn Neeland.
And then that's just a continuation of everything. Over the summer.
He's been growing his you know, pass rush tool box.
He's looked really solid in a lot of these practices,
whether they've had him you know, outside, or whether they
moved him inside a three technique or however they've decided
to use him. Seeing it carry over the games was good,
So marshaw neland was impressive and I think a really
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optimistic sign on the other side of that, uh Man.
They brought Dante Fowler back for a reason, and they
paid him to come back here and be an impact
rusher for them, and he was not good enough consistently
enough the other night, and that was against the run
or when rushing the pass or so. I think they
really need to get something out of Dante Fowler.
Speaker 8 (23:48):
This may surprise you. I like what side of Dak Prescott.
I mean, we've been seeing good Dak back, good Dack,
good Dak, bad Deck. This looks maybe this is a
season of good Deck. He lived athletic in the pocket.
He moved around that one thing where he shrugged a
dude off and ran around, picked.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Up a few yards his balls.
Speaker 8 (24:07):
I mean, let me see his football is looking good.
Showed a lot of accuracy. I mean I thought he
played terrific. See he drops some pass he normally catches.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
It happens. But I love what I saw to Dak.
Speaker 8 (24:20):
He got your boy, He baited your boy perfectly, got
him kicked out the game. And uh, I mean Dak
is not a client. Uh it's Claire's Hill client put
out his business.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
But yes, but yeah, that's an we saw that right
out there after the game was clear. Okay, yes, but uh,
I really like that.
Speaker 8 (24:46):
And if Dak is gonna play at an elite level,
then this team can go better than the six and ten.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
I thought they were who I didn't like.
Speaker 8 (24:53):
Hey man, I was a little curious why they gave
the tight end that money. I need you to play,
Jake Ferguson. I need you to make tough catches in
traffic and be Dak security blanket and be everything Dunlin
Schultz was. But with that being the suthing, let a
cuzworth for.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Me and I don't want to go. I don't want
to be redundant with Dak. But he performed well. Tyler, guy,
your left tackle has to be good. Had to be
good against Philadelphia. You got the defenses you're facing this year.
You know, hey, you got the Giants coming up, and
then the end of the month, you know some dude
named Parsons coming to town here. So you need a
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guiding to play well. And if he can give you
more games like that, then I feel really good about
this offensive line of what they can be. And for me,
the guy, I guess it was Ceede Lamb. I'm sorry,
you can't sit up here, hold out for money, gets
thirty four million a year and go dropping balls. I
mean it was like when they that was a Clinton,
mister go thirty. When he did the whole you know,
when you go, he light up the folks. Look at
CD Davis. Here's Davis dropping balls. You can't do that.
(25:54):
Can I tell you something? You cannot do that on
the football field, any game like that on national TV.
You got to get it done.
Speaker 8 (26:00):
I'm gonna ask all y'all because my first thought when
City dropped those passes was this is kind of classic
of what these this version of the Dallas Cowboys do,
which is at critical moments in bigger games, their best
players are the ones who let them down, not not
some fifth round picks, some backup or some guy who's
not a star.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
They're typically it's it's their guys who let them down.
Speaker 8 (26:24):
It's not always the same guy. It's really the same guy.
But their guys don't pick it up when they need to.
And that's why there's been so many disappointments. I mean,
that's really why they haven't been to the championship game.
They've had teams very that are talented enough, good enough
to get to a championship game, but so in the
playoff games and some of their big games, their best
players tend to not make the plays need to be made.
Speaker 7 (26:46):
I'm glad it happened in Week one, which is it
seems like the annual I mean, I think he'd tell
you this the annual ceedee Lamb hits a point of
adversity or has a very big public adversity moment within
a game, whether it's always in September that one, or
you know, the sideline standing off by himself against the
forty nine ers and twenty three the Ravens, last against
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the Ravens twenty two. It was heading into Week three
against the Giants, he had a really rough first half.
So I'm like, this is this has kind of been
the mo for Seed. He has a big pivot point
early in the season that says, all right, here's adversity,
how are you gonna respond to And consistently he's responded
the right way, So I'm I'm assuming he's going to
respond the right way. But yeah, he he didn't try
to run from anything. After the game, he was he
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was very much talking about like, yeah, I gotta make
those catches, like there's nothing to say about it other
than just you need to do it it. It's so
unusual a lot of big time receivers will have focus
drops or other things like that. It happens, but it's
so unusual to see it. Essentially three targets in a
row over two drives like he had, and I know
the third one was I mean that would have been
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a difficult catch, but you expect him to make that catch.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Him can make you see now as you want them
to play.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Now I go by the way Nick saban It talked about.
He says, Hey, one of the coaching lessons he learned was,
you know, when you need it, don't think a place,
think of players. And I go back to what you said,
Jacques Taylor about the best players not making plays. I
used to say about Tony Romo all the time. Tony
rome was not the reason they don't win, but he's
a part of it. And there are times when you know,
here the Cowboys cruising on home to win the race,
(28:18):
and they crashed the car and turned forward and you're like,
well what was this and you can't you can't have
that and ceedee lamb dropping those footballs and Dak put
it right there for it didn't happen. You go back
to the Green Bay game in the playoff game, you
know it was Dak and CD both not on the
same page, and Mike and not making enough plays out there.
We just it's the kind of stuff where I think
you're very correct. What is happening here? How come it's
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not getting done here? And you can point the fingers
to a lot of the people that Jerry's paid. And
I think one of the reasons why he started guarding
his money the last couple of years about, Hey, I
need to see something at you. I'm sitting up here,
make you the highest paid, this, that and the other,
and I'm not getting my return on investment. And for
Game one, you wanted to see the return on investment.
(29:01):
You guys are a little bit young, but you and
I remember when Michael Jordan played, he won game. That's
what he did with Joe monts hamas one of the game.
That's what he did. You're too old enough to remember
Tom Brady. You know what, when you needed it, that's
what Tom Brady did. They're in the fox hole, they're
down against Kansas City. Tom Brady and company figured out
a way to go win. And what was the whole
boy who jumped outside of Kansas City? And you know
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the Patriots did a wain. That's what they do. That's
what they do. And then we saw Sunday night. Here's
Josh Allen figuring it out. Figuring it out, man, And
at some point in time, the Cowboys need their guys
to go do that very thing. And that was to me,
it was a disappointing thing about cd Land. This guy
is everything you want, everything you want to receiver. He
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didn't get it done.
Speaker 8 (29:43):
And he was having a terrific night until then, right
except you know, yes, all that was good, but when
you needed at the moment, you need I need you
to go get that.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
And he had several shots to do it. Be like,
hey man, just one shot. Yeah, dude, you had several
shots and couldn't keep doing it. And that is. I
don't know how this season will end, but boy, you'd
hate to look up at the end of the year
and say, had we got that one, it could either
a put us into playoffs or won the division or
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done something significant here. So this game against the Giants,
you know, look, he should have another good game, but
in crunch time, man, we've got to see something better.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
And the totality of it, I think there are moral
victories you could take away from the week one loss.
It's a four point loss defending Super Bowl champions all
that I think you will look back on this game
at the end of the season though, and realize you
let one get away.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
So here's my take on that. How many years are
we now on mortal victory?
Speaker 6 (30:39):
Yeah, I'm with you there, fifteen to twenty twenty.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
Look ninety percent of the time, I'm like, moral victories
do not exist. I think it could exist in this
specific instance because the first time head coach a really
tough environment, super Bowl definition, chants all that, but I
think it was a game that they should have won.
And that's where it's like the moral victory might get
taken away a little bit because of all those mistakes
they had.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
And it's like, this is his first more victory, so
he gets the first.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
One, and so you got the game war.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
So you say that, and then I look at Pete Carroll.
You know, here's Pete Carroll going new The Raiders going
East has been bad for years. They go out here
to New England and they figure out a way to
go get it done and getting it done with a quarterback,
and people say, hey, really you want Geno Smith. I
mean I look at Pee like this is a he
knows how to close the show.
Speaker 7 (31:21):
To be fair, I think Dallas beats New England if
that's who they were playing in week one, so.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Like I mean, it's it's New England. I will say.
Speaker 7 (31:27):
If you want to talk about moral victories opening night
against the defending Super Bowl champions dak returning off of
an injury, that is literally the same script they ran
into against Tampa in twenty one, and that did spur
a positive outcome after that.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
See, man, we just got too It's just I mean,
for me, I've seen too many you know, I'm sure
he got trauma. Man, you know you got trauma. I'll
tell you what because I covered the Super Bowl team,
so I know what it looks like. I've seen it.
ID st it, I seeked it with my eyes. Sat
is it without immitting I set it, okay, And so
a lot of stuff in that dugout I shouldn't have seen.
(32:01):
That's not it sometimes come to super Bowl champion in depths. Okay.
So yeah, so that's why body, I can't. Man, I
know you none about that. It's not your fault. No,
I totally that's your fault either. But but for those
of us who saw it, it's like, man, this this
is how you end up becoming the Cubs and love
of a loser maybe this is the year. Yeah, and
(32:22):
I opium all.
Speaker 7 (32:23):
The time I get And you know what is a
moral victory? Actual victories, those are moral victories too. You
can get the morale out of both of them, so
you don't need to lose in order to get a
moral victory.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Like I understand that, And.
Speaker 7 (32:34):
I understand I'm enough to remember the last one, not
the first two, but the last one. I remember, knew it, okay,
but I think that no, no, no, I wasn't that,
but I that's another story for another time. But I
think when you look at the way that the things
they did, the ways they performed, the things that you
saw out of the game that were positives, that's why
it's a moral victories because a lot of these things
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that were positive that you saw in the game where
things you were not thinking, we're going to be positives
this season, and you did it on the road against
the Super Bowl champions. Tyler Geiton had his moments where
he got beaten, you know, pass protection, every things like that,
But last year he's hanging his head. Last year he's
probably getting dog walked more frequently than that than he was.
And so to me, it's there's positives that come out
of that. There's positives that come out of the way
Terrence Steel played, positives that come out of the way
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that you know, guys like Kneeland played like we talked
about earlier. So I think there's Diggs coming back complaining
at the level he did when there were so many
questions about him. I think there's just things collective that
you can take and say, all right, that bodes well
for the future.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
All right, let's take a break here. Let's go grade
the coaching staff, not just shot, even the coaching staff
overall after Game one as they get ready to face
the New York Giants. We'll do that next right here
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You're the media. Mash got Jean Jaques Taylor, Bobby Belt,
You've got Nick Harris. I am NEWI Scruggs here. All right, Bobby,
(36:23):
I'm gonna start with you. The coaching staff overall, not
just Shoddy, but the staff of guys he has. After
week one, would you like, where what'd you give him
a grade? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (36:32):
I would say there's only obviously so much we can
know about specific coaches, Like we know what Shoddy's Shoddy's
calm plays, we can see that, we can see stuff
that Eberflus is doing. I think there's a tendency sometimes
like you see success from a certain position group and
then people just naturally go like, ah, that position coach
must have been great or this or that. Like we
I don't know what the Clayton Adams impact necessarily is
in the run game, but like you assume that he
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probably did some things to help.
Speaker 6 (36:53):
But offensive linemen, we're moving a lot.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
And that's the thing.
Speaker 7 (36:56):
It's like you assume, but like it's one of those
things where like you can't know for sure, I can
for sure the play calling, so to me, shoddy gets
an a like. I thought, overall, the pace of the game,
the things that they were doing, the way that when
they would convert the third and shorts, they were immediately
getting into tempo, they were catching Philadelphia off guard. I thought,
all that was really great. Eber flus.
Speaker 9 (37:15):
C.
Speaker 7 (37:16):
I guess because to me that first, I don't know
how you go through that first half and you don't
try to send a blitz. I know it's generally against
that line of thinking that he comes from. He comes
from that Rod Marinelli line of thinking. They don't blitz
very often. It's four rushers, that's what they do. The
defensive tackles get upfield. Sometimes it creates running lanes and
quarterbacks scramble for a bunch of yards. All that was
playing out the way it normally does. But I did
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like that he in the second half, and especially coming
out of the delay, went all right, let's send some
corner blitzer, let's do some exotic things, let's catch the
mock guard.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
And it worked.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
They were having a lot of success.
Speaker 7 (37:48):
So to me, I think it's I think it's because
it was a bad first half and a good second
half that overall, I'll give Hi a C plus because
to me, it's on the second half end. It showed
a willingness to say I'll make some adjustments here that
maybe I'm not normally comfortable with.
Speaker 8 (38:01):
I would agree with that. Iberflus was driving me crazy
in the first half. I was just like, dude, you
got no pass rushers at least for today. You just
can't sit back there and get a do to all
day and so. But he cleaned it up in the
second half. I liked a lot of what Shoty did.
I liked the motion. I like the movement. But you know,
it's first it's one game. I'm trying not to overreact.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
So what do we have that first half? Seven possessions
and seven scores for all combined. Yeah, I mean so no,
no Vic Fangio, super Bowl winning coach who has the
blueprint of the Cowboys.
Speaker 8 (38:31):
No, he got Dax blueprint. But it was first half nothing. No, No,
nobody was to fit. There's no defense in the first time.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
Yeah, before Bobby started going, I was I had had
a in my mind for Shoddy and B minus for Ebraflus.
I guess the only reason I would give it a
little bit of a bump on Ebraflus's part, I mean,
you give up one hundred and twenty three yards on
the ground in the first half, and it looks like
all the issues that you've ever had on this defense
in the run game are just being extenuated going into
this season. And then what was it, thirty five yards
allowed in the second half. There was a there was
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a stretch of seven carries as Saquon Barkley had at
one point where he only had one yard, and that
doesn't happen under any of the recent defensive coordinators of
the recent defensive systems.
Speaker 6 (39:09):
So I do give credit in that area.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
I think that was more so Kenny Clark stepping up
and you know, finally making some plays there in the
second half, and I thought he really played well in
the second half as the game settled in a little bit.
But from a pressure standpoint, I mean, this team was
pressuring on forty two percent.
Speaker 6 (39:24):
Of Jalen Hurts's dropbacks.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
I think the biggest indictment against Matti Everflus in this
game was not putting a spy on Hurts. And early
in the second quarter, you don't see a lot of
those scrambles from Jalen Hurts. If you dedicate a Maris
Leo foul or even in Damoon Clark to if you
don't want to put lea foul on the field for
some reason, Dumon Clark to spying Jalen Hurts and keeping
his keeping his legs from killing you in the in
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the defensive game. But overall, that was his biggest indictment
on my end, was not putting a spy on Hurts.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Earl.
Speaker 6 (39:55):
Yeah, and that's the big one for me.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
I guess the biggest thing that I can attribute to
to it was Okay, you know, you look on a
depth chart and they have it listed as de Monk
Clark or Mary slia Fel. So it's probably more so
a matchup based, you know, decision to put Clark in
the game or put Leafol in the game as the
game plan throughout the week. I would imagine that this
is again me theorizing. I would imagine that they were
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expecting more between the tackles action and DeMont Clark has
a little bit better body to do that rather than
Mary sliafol and so that they put him in the game.
Speaker 6 (40:27):
But I don't agree with that.
Speaker 5 (40:28):
I think uni athleticism in that second level Mary Cleafel
is your most athletic guy in that second level when
Demarvi and Overstown is not healthy, he would have been
able to limit those Jalen Hurts scampers. He would have
been able to limit that short to intermediate range past
game stuff. There was only one completion that Jalen Hurts
made further than ten yards down the field, and that
that is a big indictment on the second level in
their pass coverage. And I think a guy like Mary
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Leafel doesn't allow that to happen, to.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Your point, And this is just kind of what I
think about a staff. You know, it's the first game.
Guys are figuring out who can do what and how
to play him. And I think Shoddy kind of addressed
it in the press conference and say, hey, the guy's
earned some snaps here and we'll see what happens in
practice here. But there's there's gonna be some more guys
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who who you say, Hey, look this this matchup hit
fits here and this player is gonna develop some more.
And so yeah, so you know, I know you're frustration
of Kenneth Murray here. We could see some things changing.
It's fluid, as always says sports is fluid. Sports is
flu So the lineup you have here, it starts against Philadelphia,
you learn a bit, a little bit more, see what
changes against the Giants, and by the time we get
to the Packers, we can see who knows.
Speaker 5 (41:32):
It just always feels like this team overstays there, welcome
with their problems, though I mean Bazzi's should have been
addressed a long time ago, and that's That's just one example.
But it just always feels like this team when it
has a problem, it deflects that problem for as long
as it can until until it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
You know, You're you're young, but the flows l Adams
staying here at left tackle for as long I remember,
it was one of those where you're just like, really,
what are we doing that? But that's that's Jerry, Now,
that's what. Jerry's a general man who's gonna keep you
a year too long. Bill be Check was the GM
coach whos won't get rid of you your you're early's.
Jerry's got clients too, along with Bill Walsh. Yeah you know, yeah, yeah,
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you know, Jerry's bringing back Zach. I mean I Zach,
but does he he was bringing back Zeke? What were
we doing here by the way, I was looking on
the list today and just I was like, let me
go back to the twenty sixteen draft, like, you know,
who's forgot that? You know, golf went one, wentz went
to the bosa Zeke forgot Kenny Clark was in that draft,
h first round, still playing.
Speaker 7 (42:26):
Kenny Clark your highest rated defensive player, according to Jerry
Jones this morning from their internal grades.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
He's gonna be dead every week.
Speaker 6 (42:35):
Yeah, exactly. They're gonna give up three hundred fifty yards
on the ground.
Speaker 7 (42:38):
Kenny Clark, well, he had a busted up lip yesterday
in the locker.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Yeah, yeah, interviewing like bleed like yeah he club or Lang's.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
Playing a little physical practice. That's all.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
So did And I forgive me for not listening to
it to your show this morning. I know I forgot.
I forgot that. Today's that day.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
You know.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
I'm getting back to you yea, yeah, yeah, yeah. That
Monday was awful for me. I fell asleep during the day.
I wasn't used to it. Late night, did he mention Mozzi?
Speaker 6 (43:05):
Was that sort of yeah?
Speaker 4 (43:08):
I mean he was asked about Mazzi.
Speaker 7 (43:09):
He he didn't quite hear the he he addressed Jade
and Blue being inactive.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
Then he was.
Speaker 7 (43:14):
He fought him and said sorry, who was the other one?
Said yeah, yeah, it was kind of like Blue by it,
But he did say he expected it to be the
same this week. He expected Blue and Mazzi to be
inactive this week. Well it's Tuesday, it's very early.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Yeah, so it is Mazzie listening to the showed the
way uh Boy Go play people Tuesday.
Speaker 7 (43:40):
It's a thirty wake up in that Mazzi may not
have to tune in to know the answer. Yeah, which sucks,
Like I mean, because I I feel like, actually Mazzi's
at least in dealing with us and talking to the media.
I feel like Mazzi's attitude and demeanor and approach of
things has gotten better grounded and better and things like that.
(44:01):
But I don't know, that may just be what we see.
They out there, they may be seeing something completely different
in terms of like the way that he's approaching the
work and the way he's approaching adversity.
Speaker 4 (44:09):
They may feel like he's not checking those boxes.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
You know.
Speaker 8 (44:12):
Sometimes you can just try you just ain't no good. Yeah,
Like you practice hard, you can try hard, you study hard, you.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Just ain't no good.
Speaker 6 (44:19):
He's not doing any of that though. That's the problem.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
Oh, that's the issue. Broadness is said on you know,
on the Fan and on Cowboy Podcast. Here, he just
thinks he's in the wrong system. He thinks this is
not a good system.
Speaker 8 (44:30):
For the Well, he did play that read and react
all in college.
Speaker 7 (44:34):
Man, I don't know, it's it's been We've had Masi
at three thirty five, We've had Masi at two ninety.
We've had Masi rush in the past. We've had Massi
playing one seconde We've had Masi at three fifty. I
don't think that. I think they're trying to figure something.
I don't think they want their first round pick to
be a failure. This is honestly two very different players.
Second round pick verse first round pick. This feels very
(44:54):
much like Tristan Hill all over again.
Speaker 8 (44:57):
Yea, which case, So why is he still in the
team because he was a first round pick?
Speaker 7 (45:03):
I mean they got rid of Taco Charlton at the
same time of his career.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Jeth I thought he was just on a pick on
a team, you know.
Speaker 7 (45:09):
In case, I think it's honestly just being completely thin
at defensive tackle.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 5 (45:15):
And the reality of it is, if they were to
bail on Mansie Smith, he would get picked up by
somebody else in the league because the tackle situation.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Jim Harball would be one who who Absolutely, So yeah,
let's send the show there, Let's do it tomorrow.
Speaker 8 (45:31):
Negative.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
You got to end with a posit. Youve got a
positive here. Yeah, State ranked number one.
Speaker 6 (45:36):
Cowboys win Sunday.
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Thank you.
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Yeah, there you go.
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This is media Match, a roundtable of Cowboys insiders trumping
wisdom and offering sizzling takes on the current state of
your Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Now your host New he scrugs here, we are, folks.
The first media mash of the regular season is underway.
Here from the Star in Frisco, we got Nick Harris
and the foot Wall Star Telegram, Bobby Belt one O
five three Fan Cowboys Radio Home jj T. The author
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is here working on another new book. I know he's
been putting in that work. Brother. I feel for you,
manew how many interviews you up to now for your book?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
That?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
No, sir, No, sir, glad you. I'll read it. I'll
read it. I ain't trying to ever do anything like that, man,
And I am New. He scrugs here. So uh, let's
start off the gate with old Jalen Carter, mister spiter, idiot.
I'm sitting there, three of us sitting in the press
by like, is this really happening? Yeah, this this is happening.
(01:15):
Just you hadn't done nothing, ain't done no work and
then you're walking off the big dam. Big dumb is
out here already already puting big dom to work in Philadelphia,
having you going out the gates, I'm like, oh my god.
And somebody said, you think you'll be available? I said, oh, Philadelphia,
he'll be available to talk afterwards. No, you you don't
get to go do something like that and run out,
get your clothes and run out there. I mean you
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would if you're a Cowboy.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
But not feeling, or if you're the Giants backup quarterback.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I guess, yeah, Philadelphia, you get to go. Hey, you
gotta show up, got to get out here to show up. So, uh, Nick,
what what the league has decided no suspension for mister Carter?
What else?
Speaker 5 (01:47):
With no suspension he gets fined, uh the equivalent of
one game check. So basically, in essence, he was suspended
one game by the NFL. But they rolled that Cowboys
game and says one game suspension in essence?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
All right, does everybody think about that.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
They find him a game check?
Speaker 7 (02:03):
Yeah, so I don't know if he gets suspended, like
if he gets thrown out of a game, I don't
think he loses game check. So I'm sure it's just
they're trying to match him getting thrown out of the
game with the game check that he then got. So yeah,
he's essentially no punishment. Yeah, it's essentially no punishment.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
But I don't know, Doug, what salary is he?
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Is he a minimum? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (02:21):
So it's yeah, he's on h it's like a little
over a million. It's like a million thirty thousand or
something like that, and.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
No chump change for you. And I I mean, look
of the day. I mean, think about it. You didn't
play and they took a game check with that that
you got, not you didn't get paid for the week.
You didn't get paid for your week, and you didn't
even play. Luckily, the only good thing that happened for
Jalen Carter is that they won the football game. If
they lose that football game, he's catching in a big,
(02:48):
much bigger deal. He'd have been catching all kind of
heat in Philadelphia. But you simply cannot do something that
goofy in a game.
Speaker 8 (02:57):
But he'd been doing it, that's who he is. But
you take his talent because he got a mins talent.
But he I mean he did it at Georgie, did
it here? I mean, what Bill PARSI will say about
certain guys. Man, I get it, but still which mean it.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
But that's who he is. I've never seen okay, I've
never seen anybody get thrown out of the game before
before the game, before they first snap, I mean, okay,
they had to kick off. Let me see. I think
that I could be wrong.
Speaker 8 (03:27):
I think when we scrapped with Michigan, we had a
couple guys thrown that before the game or right after
the kickoff, before the first snap from the line of
scrippage that thing.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
We had a couple in AD one or two.
Speaker 7 (03:38):
I think ninety three NFC Championship game. Maybe Beamer knows this.
When they got into a fight in the tunnel between
the Cowboys and forty nine Ers, I think somebody may
have been thrown out then before the game started.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I can't even see a pre game fight. I can
see a pregame fight. But here you are on the field.
Play not happen. You go walk over there to do your.
Speaker 7 (03:59):
John Oh yeah, that's that's a chip on your shoulder.
I mean, looking at looking to be that offended by it.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Quarterback right to me, I said, I said, on you
got that's that's meant that's mental midget right there. I mean,
that's that's the small Your mental capacity is gone. When
you can sit up here and get to a football
game like this, you've been waiting all summer long. You're
a world you're a world chap, you're a champ, you're
the champ, and you got lowering yourself going and doing that.
(04:26):
The no that that's it's it's inexcusable to me. I mean,
this is a guy who's won championships at the collegiate
level and the professional level, and you you let Dak
Prescott get you into that and you're gone. And we
were there with when the Reps came out to training camp.
They told us about the point of emphasis about sports,
like we are going to emphasize this this year. And
we saw a bunch of spinners last year college football Area.
(04:49):
Been at one boy for argument. He can't stop. He
got like three and you know, and they're telling you, man,
you do it, You're gone, you know. I mean, it's
it's I don't I don't get it.
Speaker 7 (05:01):
No, But I mean, to j JT's point, like it is,
this is who he is, Like I mean, and I know,
like it's stunning first, but it's also like the same
where it's stunnying, like why does vontez Perfect keep doing
what vontees Perfect does? Why does this guy keep doing
with this guy like that's that's always been Jalen Carter
and Jalen Carter to your point, like you're a champion.
It's like, yeah, he's done all these things and still man, man,
it's to be a champion at all these different levels
(05:21):
and had the success that he has.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
I can't even see what vontees but you're playing. I'm
gonna take it a little too. Okay, you're doing something,
but you're not even doing nothing. Man, You just walking
over to the huddling. You got no spitting is at
the top of the disrespect, right I Vontes Berfect. He
tried to get his money's work, you know, he trying
to give you some bit. You're not even giving nobody
no business. You're not doing nothing, You're not doing anything.
(05:44):
I just I just could not believe what I was
watching it.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
Yeah, yeah, I'm with you there.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
Yeah, it's a it was a bonehead mistake and he
paid for it. He paid for it, all right.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Check. So so we're doing the Player's Lounge podcast. I
want to ask you guys this question.
Speaker 8 (06:00):
Miles Sanders, cup by defensive end turned linebacker.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
I can't forget it. I'm just saying, if that yes,
if that doesn't happen, he scores a touchdown, we never
see the fumbel, right, so we're talking yeah, but going
into the you know, going into this game, okay, if
Jayden Blue is available, do you put Jamee Blue in
the game? Now? I went back on a try to
be positive here because it's trying to be it's the
(06:27):
purpose of you and change in offseason. So four carries
fifty three yards for him in the game, Yeah, one
almost forty nine yards, but he only has seven less
carries a Saquon Barklay in the game. Do you play
him this week against the Giants? Or do you say,
you know what, man, go ahead, sit next to Mazi,
watch this thing and let's go Blue.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
I would be playing Jaden Blue. It doesn't matter what
defensive Sanders. Yes, it doesn't matter what's happening behind the scenes.
In my eyes, that kid has more burst, he has
more acceleration, He has more value in the receiving game
if he is on that forty nine yard run than
he is the one breaking it loose and not getting
caught by Zack Bond.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
So maybe he don't see.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
The hold, maybe he doesn't see the holes A good point,
and maybe that's a good point.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
That's a game, I think.
Speaker 7 (07:11):
I think that's probably too you again, and that's no
disrespect to Jade and Blue.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
I think that was you. Go back and look at
that play.
Speaker 7 (07:16):
That is an incredibly patient veteran run where he's following
his blockers, he's letting the whole develop, and then he's
hitting it. I honestly don't know that there's a ton
of guys that turn that into forty nine yards.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Yeah, I got caught. That sucks.
Speaker 7 (07:28):
I don't know that a lot of guys have the
patients and the vision and the bounce to be able
to just.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Go through that hole and let it develop.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
The way most so't.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Yes, I understand that I'm still rolling with Blue. I
mean the birsty acceleration, you have so much more value
with that.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
With why he's rolling with Blue, I do.
Speaker 8 (07:46):
Look, I love it's deep it in the horns even
though we kick, but I was going this last fourteen seven.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I don't know, let's kick him butt.
Speaker 6 (07:55):
Both looked bad.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
It's all about the young guys.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Man.
Speaker 7 (07:59):
I would like, I honestly have Blue and Sanders active.
I just I wouldn't do it at the expensive either.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Great. Great, I love it because we went down that point. Well.
So if you make Blue and Sanders active, who are
deactivating here, span Ford gonna go less than the tight
end spot maker. I'm down for a misigan guy hit
the pie. Imagine Mosie and Scooney's sitting there with jerseys
(08:26):
with pomp first.
Speaker 7 (08:29):
I mean, if you're throwing Hunter Lipy out there for
six snaps, what's up with that?
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (08:32):
That one, that's all you're gonna use him for. Make
him inactive and continue to run single back. That confuses
me to.
Speaker 8 (08:40):
Pay that man in this sad mon A bench, he
had more digit more millions than he had.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Please, how about that.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
Good life?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, some of these guys are okay with it, man,
Some of these guys are okay with it.
Speaker 7 (08:53):
So this Alen Carter has more millions than he does
play too, Yes, and.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
So I don't forget that. So that was just one
one thing I thought about. And of course Brian Schottheimer
at the press conference said he wished that Javonte Williams
would have had a couple more carries. He had fifteen carries,
fifty four yards and touchdowns.
Speaker 8 (09:12):
Yeah, okay, in I mean, I mean, if you want
to give him a couple more carries.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I did not have an issue with it at all.
I mean, so fifteen carries for Javonte Barkley had eighteen.
So if he's getting so you got twenty two carries
in the football game, take away one from Dak so
it's twenty one. If he's got fifteen to twenty one,
I don't have an issue with that number. Anybody. No, No,
you're good with that. I am. You got what's good?
Speaker 8 (09:37):
He said he want to give him a couple more,
So give him a couple more.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
So it was twenty two run, twenty two rushes to
thirty four pass attempts. If the Cowboys are doing that,
I don't. I don't have an issue, and I would
I would like to think you're going to be in
most the ability to win most of your football games
if you've got that type of run ratio, and if
you could figure out how to not lose the turnover
battle because they lost a turnover battle, and well, deck
is usually best.
Speaker 8 (09:59):
When he he's right around thirty four to thirty five.
That's his sweet spot.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
That's where I'm thinking, what about you, Nick?
Speaker 5 (10:05):
Yeah, I agree, because then he can he can use
that play action to efficiency as well. Whenever he gets
in the forty forty five range, that play action is
not used to its one hundred percent benefit.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
Yeah, I mean some of it's chicken in the egg,
Like I mean, you're down and so you're throwing the
ball forty times or whatever else, or you're not having success,
you're having to come back versus you get up and
then you're able to run the ball and you are
limiting the attempts. But yeah, I mean generally, his most
efficient games have seen him throwing the ball between thirty
thirty five times something like that.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
And they get the New York Football Giants coming here
on Sunday at Jerry World is going to be a
noon kickoff for the Cowboys here. It's something to kind
of keep in mind is they've lost the game. It
was a divisional game of Philadelphia. Now it's another divisional game.
If you go to two in this league, the chances
of you make in the playoffs will really slim. You
go to two in new of your own division. That's
(10:53):
not good at all, considering you're gonna have the Bears
and the Packers to close out this month. The Cowboys
really neat especially what we saw from Green for the
Packers and what we saw from the Bears. Cowboy's got
to figure out a way how to win the Giants
game in the Bears game for sure, before the Packers
come in here.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
Yeah, this is arguably a must win and week two
that's tough to say, but it is what it is,
and they need to get a stamp in the division.
But not only are the Cowboys trying not to go
into the division, so were the Giants. That's not lost
on them either, coming off of a loss against the Commanders.
So it's a big game. It's a big home opener.
They need to get a win this weekend, no doubt.
Speaker 7 (11:24):
I mean, they go to Own two and it's Owned
too in the division, and you're talking about you drop
what is literally, in theory, the easiest division game you're
supposed to have on the schedule, your Giants at home.
That should be the game where you take care of business. Yeah,
if you were to drop that, that's not a good
omen for this team.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I hadn't even considered them losing this game.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
I had neither.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Actually, I was surprised the line was five and a half.
I feel like this is a double digit win.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
It keeps moving, it's going on, it's going up, going up.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Dak Prescott thirteen and two all time against the Giants.
The last time he lost was twenty sixteen, his rookie
season to the right. Yeah, and there was a game
up there in Jersey.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
So ugly game. It was an ugly, ugly game.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yes, it was an ugly game. And Todd Archie was
adamant in questioning Jason Garrett after it. Why didn't he
put in Tony Romo.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Todds still asking that question.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Todd and I got into it, got into it after
we went on air. Please top put the flag down.
You got to ride for your boys. Man. Come on,
we've all had boys, man, we've all had it. We've
all had client. We've all had our clients. So we
had clients, right, but your client. It was the end. Okay,
it was the end. It was one of those games
where it wasn't all on four. You know, it's like, man,
(12:37):
I know you stopped. It's over. Yeah, man, I had
quinc acquire for a client as well. That's your fault. Sorry,
that's okay.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
See, that's bad the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
That's called a bad that's a bad decision. No, it wasn't.
Speaker 8 (12:48):
He called one dude back when he got cut. He
called one dude back when he got cut, and all
his details splashed two headlines above the fold.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
The build didn't really like me. It was finished job.
He was just waiting.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
They got to keep the box and glove stof so.
Speaker 8 (13:13):
Quincy Levon Carter, Well, I got clients. Man, who was
the last client you had?
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Let me see? And who is your best? Oh?
Speaker 4 (13:23):
What?
Speaker 2 (13:23):
He was my best client. It's my best client. By
the way, for those to understand we're talking about here
in the media mash. When you're in the media, you
do form relationships with pem and some of the relationships
you get are are like they're tight, and when you
get a client, they're giving they're giving you the good stuff.
And also you got to ride with him, ride with him.
(13:45):
Now they get right, they get caught the good and
the bad. You got to ride with you, you know what
I mean. Let's wait on those facts to come out.
You gotta gotta be real gentle with it, like na help.
Speaker 8 (13:58):
It was probably my last client, but because then I
became a columnist, and it's kind of hard. It's not
as hard to have clients as a colminist. But you know, yeah,
I was. I was taking the client becomes your is
your connect your boys.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Roan Washington was a client. Ron wash was good client.
It was great client. Washed a good client. Give you that.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
What about you, bob uh of people not here anymore?
Speaker 8 (14:20):
Right, don't talk about your current client, Brandy Gregory Gregory.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
That's interesting.
Speaker 8 (14:26):
I don't know if he's a good client of bad
clan because he was.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
That was again, Okay, I liked Randy.
Speaker 7 (14:37):
Randy was always I'm still riding.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
I'm running for my client. He's not in the league
I do. Okay, I loved Randy.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
I did that.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
I still love Randy.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Nick just showed up.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
He ain't got no no comment. I haven't been here
long enough.
Speaker 8 (14:48):
He ain't got no clients he could talk about publicly.
Give me about two years.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
You got about forty weeks. He might be out of here.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Oh, don't take no Michigan club right right, Yeah, the best,
the best Michigan clan you could have had Jeordan Lewis
out the door.
Speaker 8 (15:08):
So that was the best one you've had. He's gone,
he's gone. So it was such a good dude, even
though I like, yeah, yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
No, that that's yeah. Roy Williams was good for me.
Which one the dB B royd B Roy was good?
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Man like dB you're besket away from the linebacker.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Roy? Hey man, you know Pro Bowl? Pro Bowl? Pro Bowl?
Roy before they changed rule Roy, Yes, yes, Pro Bowl
Roy was was good, but just said, you do this
job here, there's gonna be connections you have with people
and you're gonna you know, I used to catch heat
in LA because for Shack because this was before this,
this was gonna say was probably have Shag client because
(15:47):
this was this was were getting beat by the Sonics
in the round one and Kobe shooting three air balls
and yell, it was you can't make free. I was
getting that shock the first first three years of Shaquilla,
and you know, Dell got fired and he was he
wasn't dude. I caught hell for Shaquille, but year four
I only came through.
Speaker 6 (16:08):
That's why you stick with your clients.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
That's why you stick with your clients. Well, sometimes you
can find client though, fire clients. You just always say
you just had to make sure whoever you rolle be smart,
be smart. I've seen a whole lot of people like
I don't want if I'd have done that one like that,
that's that was the wrong one. You better be sure
I didn't have I don't have I didn't have many
in my career. But just make sure they're good. And
(16:32):
then you know, and then sometimes you got why do
so and so had his story? Hmm, excuse me, I
don't think I got the call. I've had to do
that a couple of times. I put foots in youtobe.
You're gonna put them in me, I'm putting them in you.
Speaker 7 (16:49):
You were questioning a little bit though, when you're having
to come up with why didn't Shack defend Hersey Hawkins
coming into the paint.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
I used to do an ass Shack set on the radio.
And there's so many nights we had, we had some.
We had some tough ones. Boy, we had we had
some brother, let me tell you. Then the Nikka and
Axel saying one, two, three can coon. There was some
tough nights I went through. I called I used to
catch it. He never because then you make the car
I want to want every little calls them pro. How
(17:22):
do I how do I defend you? Not just you
out here saying what do I mean? I got four
hours of ass whooping because you sitting out here saying
you whatever, little college pro. These high school batters don't
batter kill stop it. But it worked out in the end.
(17:43):
It worked out in the end. Like I said, you
just want to make sure at the end of the day,
too was something happened. Gary Patterson called me and got fired.
First one to have it, so it makes sure that's it.
You know, you want to make sure your people do.
I see some people retire and then the connect didn't
get it, somebody else got it. That's dirty work. That's dirty.
That's dirty work, dirty work. So that is a part
of what we do. Let's take our first break when
(18:04):
we come back. Who is the one player game one
that you all said, you know what, I like what
he did and the one player said I need to
see more. I got it. You gotta be better in
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Speaker 5 (21:11):
Yes, yes, yes, Patrick mahomes a company this year. There's
a lot of family ties in that game. We'll be
talking about it the week leading up. But it's there's
multiple There's like five you can point too.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Just in fact, the team's two former Dallas teams. The
NFL won the NFL way before you were born by me.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
But no, I know, I know, yeah, Nick, Nick.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
You taking to Clarence Hill. Dirty work, spotty, I.
Speaker 7 (21:40):
Know, yeah, Clarence isn't here. So I'm filling with all
the just just like poking. That's what I'm doing right now.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Cowboys getting ready for their home opener against the New
York Giants at AT and T Stadium. That game is noon,
So let's go around, No, Horney, I'll start with you, Nick,
give me the one player against Philadelphia said I like
what you did in the other player, Hey, I need
to see more for me A week two.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Yeah, all star were Davonte Williams. Those first two offensive drives.
They were really able to lean on him in the
running game and pick up positive yards to sustained drives.
I didn't feel like they wouldn't be able to do
that out of the gates with Javonte Williams, especially considering
he didn't have a training camp.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
He didn't have a preseats or excuse me, he didn't
have a preseason. He did have a trading camp.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
On the flip side, My god, Kenneth Murray, can we
figure out what to do there? They're going to have
to ride with him for seventeen games and it's going
to be this defense's biggest problem.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
Exactly. And I didn't understand.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
I didn't really understand the love for the trade when
when that trade was made. He's a bad run defender,
he's not athletic, he's not going to be breaking up
into passing lanes. And you saw all of those issues
on display on Thursday night. Look, if you're rolling three
linebackers out out there right now, I'd be going Sanborn
and Clark a Leah fall until Overshown gets back, and
then once Overshown gets back, you flip out Clark and Overshown.
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Sanborne can can handle these green dot responsibilities. He came
from this Everflu's defense in Chicago. He understands the system.
You don't need Murray out there to communicate it. But
I feel like that's going to be the excuse for
eighteen weeks.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
The guy that I was really impressed with was Marshawn Neeland.
And then that's just a continuation of everything. Over the summer.
He's been growing his you know, pass rush tool box.
He's looked really solid in a lot of these practices,
whether they've had him you know, outside, or whether they
moved him inside a three technique or however they've decided
to use him. Seeing it carry over the games was good,
So marshaw neland was impressive and I think a really
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optimistic sign on the other side of that, uh Man.
They brought Dante Fowler back for a reason, and they
paid him to come back here and be an impact
rusher for them, and he was not good enough consistently
enough the other night, and that was against the run
or when rushing the pass or so. I think they
really need to get something out of Dante Fowler.
Speaker 8 (23:48):
This may surprise you. I like what side of Dak Prescott.
I mean, we've been seeing good Dak back, good Dack,
good Dak, bad Deck. This looks maybe this is a
season of good Deck. He lived athletic in the pocket.
He moved around that one thing where he shrugged a
dude off and ran around, picked.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Up a few yards his balls.
Speaker 8 (24:07):
I mean, let me see his football is looking good.
Showed a lot of accuracy. I mean I thought he
played terrific. See he drops some pass he normally catches.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
It happens. But I love what I saw to Dak.
Speaker 8 (24:20):
He got your boy, He baited your boy perfectly, got
him kicked out the game. And uh, I mean Dak
is not a client. Uh it's Claire's Hill client put
out his business.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
But yes, but yeah, that's an we saw that right
out there after the game was clear. Okay, yes, but uh,
I really like that.
Speaker 8 (24:46):
And if Dak is gonna play at an elite level,
then this team can go better than the six and ten.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
I thought they were who I didn't like.
Speaker 8 (24:53):
Hey man, I was a little curious why they gave
the tight end that money. I need you to play,
Jake Ferguson. I need you to make tough catches in
traffic and be Dak security blanket and be everything Dunlin
Schultz was. But with that being the suthing, let a
cuzworth for.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Me and I don't want to go. I don't want
to be redundant with Dak. But he performed well. Tyler, guy,
your left tackle has to be good. Had to be
good against Philadelphia. You got the defenses you're facing this year.
You know, hey, you got the Giants coming up, and
then the end of the month, you know some dude
named Parsons coming to town here. So you need a
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guiding to play well. And if he can give you
more games like that, then I feel really good about
this offensive line of what they can be. And for me,
the guy, I guess it was Ceede Lamb. I'm sorry,
you can't sit up here, hold out for money, gets
thirty four million a year and go dropping balls. I
mean it was like when they that was a Clinton,
mister go thirty. When he did the whole you know,
when you go, he light up the folks. Look at
CD Davis. Here's Davis dropping balls. You can't do that.
(25:54):
Can I tell you something? You cannot do that on
the football field, any game like that on national TV.
You got to get it done.
Speaker 8 (26:00):
I'm gonna ask all y'all because my first thought when
City dropped those passes was this is kind of classic
of what these this version of the Dallas Cowboys do,
which is at critical moments in bigger games, their best
players are the ones who let them down, not not
some fifth round picks, some backup or some guy who's
not a star.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
They're typically it's it's their guys who let them down.
Speaker 8 (26:24):
It's not always the same guy. It's really the same guy.
But their guys don't pick it up when they need to.
And that's why there's been so many disappointments. I mean,
that's really why they haven't been to the championship game.
They've had teams very that are talented enough, good enough
to get to a championship game, but so in the
playoff games and some of their big games, their best
players tend to not make the plays need to be made.
Speaker 7 (26:46):
I'm glad it happened in Week one, which is it
seems like the annual I mean, I think he'd tell
you this the annual ceedee Lamb hits a point of
adversity or has a very big public adversity moment within
a game, whether it's always in September that one, or
you know, the sideline standing off by himself against the
forty nine ers and twenty three the Ravens, last against
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the Ravens twenty two. It was heading into Week three
against the Giants, he had a really rough first half.
So I'm like, this is this has kind of been
the mo for Seed. He has a big pivot point
early in the season that says, all right, here's adversity,
how are you gonna respond to And consistently he's responded
the right way, So I'm I'm assuming he's going to
respond the right way. But yeah, he he didn't try
to run from anything. After the game, he was he
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was very much talking about like, yeah, I gotta make
those catches, like there's nothing to say about it other
than just you need to do it it. It's so
unusual a lot of big time receivers will have focus
drops or other things like that. It happens, but it's
so unusual to see it. Essentially three targets in a
row over two drives like he had, and I know
the third one was I mean that would have been
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a difficult catch, but you expect him to make that catch.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Him can make you see now as you want them
to play.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Now I go by the way Nick saban It talked about.
He says, Hey, one of the coaching lessons he learned was,
you know, when you need it, don't think a place,
think of players. And I go back to what you said,
Jacques Taylor about the best players not making plays. I
used to say about Tony Romo all the time. Tony
rome was not the reason they don't win, but he's
a part of it. And there are times when you know,
here the Cowboys cruising on home to win the race,
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and they crashed the car and turned forward and you're like,
well what was this and you can't you can't have
that and ceedee lamb dropping those footballs and Dak put
it right there for it didn't happen. You go back
to the Green Bay game in the playoff game, you
know it was Dak and CD both not on the
same page, and Mike and not making enough plays out there.
We just it's the kind of stuff where I think
you're very correct. What is happening here? How come it's
(28:40):
not getting done here? And you can point the fingers
to a lot of the people that Jerry's paid. And
I think one of the reasons why he started guarding
his money the last couple of years about, Hey, I
need to see something at you. I'm sitting up here,
make you the highest paid, this, that and the other,
and I'm not getting my return on investment. And for
Game one, you wanted to see the return on investment.
(29:01):
You guys are a little bit young, but you and
I remember when Michael Jordan played, he won game. That's
what he did with Joe monts hamas one of the game.
That's what he did. You're too old enough to remember
Tom Brady. You know what, when you needed it, that's
what Tom Brady did. They're in the fox hole, they're
down against Kansas City. Tom Brady and company figured out
a way to go win. And what was the whole
boy who jumped outside of Kansas City? And you know
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the Patriots did a wain. That's what they do. That's
what they do. And then we saw Sunday night. Here's
Josh Allen figuring it out. Figuring it out, man, And
at some point in time, the Cowboys need their guys
to go do that very thing. And that was to me,
it was a disappointing thing about cd Land. This guy
is everything you want, everything you want to receiver. He
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didn't get it done.
Speaker 8 (29:43):
And he was having a terrific night until then, right
except you know, yes, all that was good, but when
you needed at the moment, you need I need you
to go get that.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
And he had several shots to do it. Be like,
hey man, just one shot. Yeah, dude, you had several
shots and couldn't keep doing it. And that is. I
don't know how this season will end, but boy, you'd
hate to look up at the end of the year
and say, had we got that one, it could either
a put us into playoffs or won the division or
(30:14):
done something significant here. So this game against the Giants,
you know, look, he should have another good game, but
in crunch time, man, we've got to see something better.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
And the totality of it, I think there are moral
victories you could take away from the week one loss.
It's a four point loss defending Super Bowl champions all
that I think you will look back on this game
at the end of the season though, and realize you
let one get away.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
So here's my take on that. How many years are
we now on mortal victory?
Speaker 6 (30:39):
Yeah, I'm with you there, fifteen to twenty twenty.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
Look ninety percent of the time, I'm like, moral victories
do not exist. I think it could exist in this
specific instance because the first time head coach a really
tough environment, super Bowl definition, chants all that, but I
think it was a game that they should have won.
And that's where it's like the moral victory might get
taken away a little bit because of all those mistakes
they had.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
And it's like, this is his first more victory, so
he gets the first.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
One, and so you got the game war.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
So you say that, and then I look at Pete Carroll.
You know, here's Pete Carroll going new The Raiders going
East has been bad for years. They go out here
to New England and they figure out a way to
go get it done and getting it done with a quarterback,
and people say, hey, really you want Geno Smith. I
mean I look at Pee like this is a he
knows how to close the show.
Speaker 7 (31:21):
To be fair, I think Dallas beats New England if
that's who they were playing in week one, so.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Like I mean, it's it's New England. I will say.
Speaker 7 (31:27):
If you want to talk about moral victories opening night
against the defending Super Bowl champions dak returning off of
an injury, that is literally the same script they ran
into against Tampa in twenty one, and that did spur
a positive outcome after that.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
See, man, we just got too It's just I mean,
for me, I've seen too many you know, I'm sure
he got trauma. Man, you know you got trauma. I'll
tell you what because I covered the Super Bowl team,
so I know what it looks like. I've seen it.
ID st it, I seeked it with my eyes. Sat
is it without immitting I set it, okay, And so
a lot of stuff in that dugout I shouldn't have seen.
(32:01):
That's not it sometimes come to super Bowl champion in depths. Okay.
So yeah, so that's why body, I can't. Man, I
know you none about that. It's not your fault. No,
I totally that's your fault either. But but for those
of us who saw it, it's like, man, this this
is how you end up becoming the Cubs and love
of a loser maybe this is the year. Yeah, and
(32:22):
I opium all.
Speaker 7 (32:23):
The time I get And you know what is a
moral victory? Actual victories, those are moral victories too. You
can get the morale out of both of them, so
you don't need to lose in order to get a
moral victory.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Like I understand that, And.
Speaker 7 (32:34):
I understand I'm enough to remember the last one, not
the first two, but the last one. I remember, knew it, okay,
but I think that no, no, no, I wasn't that,
but I that's another story for another time. But I
think when you look at the way that the things
they did, the ways they performed, the things that you
saw out of the game that were positives, that's why
it's a moral victories because a lot of these things
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that were positive that you saw in the game where
things you were not thinking, we're going to be positives
this season, and you did it on the road against
the Super Bowl champions. Tyler Geiton had his moments where
he got beaten, you know, pass protection, every things like that,
But last year he's hanging his head. Last year he's
probably getting dog walked more frequently than that than he was.
And so to me, it's there's positives that come out
of that. There's positives that come out of the way
Terrence Steel played, positives that come out of the way
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that you know, guys like Kneeland played like we talked
about earlier. So I think there's Diggs coming back complaining
at the level he did when there were so many
questions about him. I think there's just things collective that
you can take and say, all right, that bodes well
for the future.
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You're the media. Mash got Jean Jaques Taylor, Bobby Belt,
You've got Nick Harris. I am NEWI Scruggs here. All right, Bobby,
(36:23):
I'm gonna start with you. The coaching staff overall, not
just Shoddy, but the staff of guys he has. After
week one, would you like, where what'd you give him
a grade? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (36:32):
I would say there's only obviously so much we can
know about specific coaches, Like we know what Shoddy's Shoddy's
calm plays, we can see that, we can see stuff
that Eberflus is doing. I think there's a tendency sometimes
like you see success from a certain position group and
then people just naturally go like, ah, that position coach
must have been great or this or that. Like we
I don't know what the Clayton Adams impact necessarily is
in the run game, but like you assume that he
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probably did some things to help.
Speaker 6 (36:53):
But offensive linemen, we're moving a lot.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
And that's the thing.
Speaker 7 (36:56):
It's like you assume, but like it's one of those
things where like you can't know for sure, I can
for sure the play calling, so to me, shoddy gets
an a like. I thought, overall, the pace of the game,
the things that they were doing, the way that when
they would convert the third and shorts, they were immediately
getting into tempo, they were catching Philadelphia off guard. I thought,
all that was really great. Eber flus.
Speaker 9 (37:15):
C.
Speaker 7 (37:16):
I guess because to me that first, I don't know
how you go through that first half and you don't
try to send a blitz. I know it's generally against
that line of thinking that he comes from. He comes
from that Rod Marinelli line of thinking. They don't blitz
very often. It's four rushers, that's what they do. The
defensive tackles get upfield. Sometimes it creates running lanes and
quarterbacks scramble for a bunch of yards. All that was
playing out the way it normally does. But I did
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like that he in the second half, and especially coming
out of the delay, went all right, let's send some
corner blitzer, let's do some exotic things, let's catch the
mock guard.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
And it worked.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
They were having a lot of success.
Speaker 7 (37:48):
So to me, I think it's I think it's because
it was a bad first half and a good second
half that overall, I'll give Hi a C plus because
to me, it's on the second half end. It showed
a willingness to say I'll make some adjustments here that
maybe I'm not normally comfortable with.
Speaker 8 (38:01):
I would agree with that. Iberflus was driving me crazy
in the first half. I was just like, dude, you
got no pass rushers at least for today. You just
can't sit back there and get a do to all
day and so. But he cleaned it up in the
second half. I liked a lot of what Shoty did.
I liked the motion. I like the movement. But you know,
it's first it's one game. I'm trying not to overreact.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
So what do we have that first half? Seven possessions
and seven scores for all combined. Yeah, I mean so no,
no Vic Fangio, super Bowl winning coach who has the
blueprint of the Cowboys.
Speaker 8 (38:31):
No, he got Dax blueprint. But it was first half nothing. No, No,
nobody was to fit. There's no defense in the first time.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
Yeah, before Bobby started going, I was I had had
a in my mind for Shoddy and B minus for Ebraflus.
I guess the only reason I would give it a
little bit of a bump on Ebraflus's part, I mean,
you give up one hundred and twenty three yards on
the ground in the first half, and it looks like
all the issues that you've ever had on this defense
in the run game are just being extenuated going into
this season. And then what was it, thirty five yards
allowed in the second half. There was a there was
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a stretch of seven carries as Saquon Barkley had at
one point where he only had one yard, and that
doesn't happen under any of the recent defensive coordinators of
the recent defensive systems.
Speaker 6 (39:09):
So I do give credit in that area.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
I think that was more so Kenny Clark stepping up
and you know, finally making some plays there in the
second half, and I thought he really played well in
the second half as the game settled in a little bit.
But from a pressure standpoint, I mean, this team was
pressuring on forty two percent.
Speaker 6 (39:24):
Of Jalen Hurts's dropbacks.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
I think the biggest indictment against Matti Everflus in this
game was not putting a spy on Hurts. And early
in the second quarter, you don't see a lot of
those scrambles from Jalen Hurts. If you dedicate a Maris
Leo foul or even in Damoon Clark to if you
don't want to put lea foul on the field for
some reason, Dumon Clark to spying Jalen Hurts and keeping
his keeping his legs from killing you in the in
(39:48):
the defensive game. But overall, that was his biggest indictment
on my end, was not putting a spy on Hurts.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Earl.
Speaker 6 (39:55):
Yeah, and that's the big one for me.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
I guess the biggest thing that I can attribute to
to it was Okay, you know, you look on a
depth chart and they have it listed as de Monk
Clark or Mary slia Fel. So it's probably more so
a matchup based, you know, decision to put Clark in
the game or put Leafol in the game as the
game plan throughout the week. I would imagine that this
is again me theorizing. I would imagine that they were
(40:19):
expecting more between the tackles action and DeMont Clark has
a little bit better body to do that rather than
Mary sliafol and so that they put him in the game.
Speaker 6 (40:27):
But I don't agree with that.
Speaker 5 (40:28):
I think uni athleticism in that second level Mary Cleafel
is your most athletic guy in that second level when
Demarvi and Overstown is not healthy, he would have been
able to limit those Jalen Hurts scampers. He would have
been able to limit that short to intermediate range past
game stuff. There was only one completion that Jalen Hurts
made further than ten yards down the field, and that
that is a big indictment on the second level in
their pass coverage. And I think a guy like Mary
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Leafel doesn't allow that to happen, to.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Your point, And this is just kind of what I
think about a staff. You know, it's the first game.
Guys are figuring out who can do what and how
to play him. And I think Shoddy kind of addressed
it in the press conference and say, hey, the guy's
earned some snaps here and we'll see what happens in
practice here. But there's there's gonna be some more guys
(41:11):
who who you say, Hey, look this this matchup hit
fits here and this player is gonna develop some more.
And so yeah, so you know, I know you're frustration
of Kenneth Murray here. We could see some things changing.
It's fluid, as always says sports is fluid. Sports is
flu So the lineup you have here, it starts against Philadelphia,
you learn a bit, a little bit more, see what
changes against the Giants, and by the time we get
to the Packers, we can see who knows.
Speaker 5 (41:32):
It just always feels like this team overstays there, welcome
with their problems, though I mean Bazzi's should have been
addressed a long time ago, and that's That's just one example.
But it just always feels like this team when it
has a problem, it deflects that problem for as long
as it can until until it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
You know, You're you're young, but the flows l Adams
staying here at left tackle for as long I remember,
it was one of those where you're just like, really,
what are we doing that? But that's that's Jerry, Now,
that's what. Jerry's a general man who's gonna keep you
a year too long. Bill be Check was the GM
coach whos won't get rid of you your you're early's.
Jerry's got clients too, along with Bill Walsh. Yeah you know, yeah, yeah,
(42:08):
you know, Jerry's bringing back Zach. I mean I Zach,
but does he he was bringing back Zeke? What were
we doing here by the way, I was looking on
the list today and just I was like, let me
go back to the twenty sixteen draft, like, you know,
who's forgot that? You know, golf went one, wentz went
to the bosa Zeke forgot Kenny Clark was in that draft,
h first round, still playing.
Speaker 7 (42:26):
Kenny Clark your highest rated defensive player, according to Jerry
Jones this morning from their internal grades.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
He's gonna be dead every week.
Speaker 6 (42:35):
Yeah, exactly. They're gonna give up three hundred fifty yards
on the ground.
Speaker 7 (42:38):
Kenny Clark, well, he had a busted up lip yesterday
in the locker.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Yeah, yeah, interviewing like bleed like yeah he club or Lang's.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
Playing a little physical practice. That's all.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
So did And I forgive me for not listening to
it to your show this morning. I know I forgot.
I forgot that. Today's that day.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
You know.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
I'm getting back to you yea, yeah, yeah, yeah. That
Monday was awful for me. I fell asleep during the day.
I wasn't used to it. Late night, did he mention Mozzi?
Speaker 6 (43:05):
Was that sort of yeah?
Speaker 4 (43:08):
I mean he was asked about Mazzi.
Speaker 7 (43:09):
He he didn't quite hear the he he addressed Jade
and Blue being inactive.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
Then he was.
Speaker 7 (43:14):
He fought him and said sorry, who was the other one?
Said yeah, yeah, it was kind of like Blue by it,
But he did say he expected it to be the
same this week. He expected Blue and Mazzi to be
inactive this week. Well it's Tuesday, it's very early.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Yeah, so it is Mazzie listening to the showed the
way uh Boy Go play people Tuesday.
Speaker 7 (43:40):
It's a thirty wake up in that Mazzi may not
have to tune in to know the answer. Yeah, which sucks,
Like I mean, because I I feel like, actually Mazzi's
at least in dealing with us and talking to the media.
I feel like Mazzi's attitude and demeanor and approach of
things has gotten better grounded and better and things like that.
(44:01):
But I don't know, that may just be what we see.
They out there, they may be seeing something completely different
in terms of like the way that he's approaching the
work and the way he's approaching adversity.
Speaker 4 (44:09):
They may feel like he's not checking those boxes.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
You know.
Speaker 8 (44:12):
Sometimes you can just try you just ain't no good. Yeah,
Like you practice hard, you can try hard, you study hard, you.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Just ain't no good.
Speaker 6 (44:19):
He's not doing any of that though. That's the problem.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
Oh, that's the issue. Broadness is said on you know,
on the Fan and on Cowboy Podcast. Here, he just
thinks he's in the wrong system. He thinks this is
not a good system.
Speaker 8 (44:30):
For the Well, he did play that read and react
all in college.
Speaker 7 (44:34):
Man, I don't know, it's it's been We've had Masi
at three thirty five, We've had Masi at two ninety.
We've had Masi rush in the past. We've had Massi
playing one seconde We've had Masi at three fifty. I
don't think that. I think they're trying to figure something.
I don't think they want their first round pick to
be a failure. This is honestly two very different players.
Second round pick verse first round pick. This feels very
(44:54):
much like Tristan Hill all over again.
Speaker 8 (44:57):
Yea, which case, So why is he still in the
team because he was a first round pick?
Speaker 7 (45:03):
I mean they got rid of Taco Charlton at the
same time of his career.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Jeth I thought he was just on a pick on
a team, you know.
Speaker 7 (45:09):
In case, I think it's honestly just being completely thin
at defensive tackle.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 5 (45:15):
And the reality of it is, if they were to
bail on Mansie Smith, he would get picked up by
somebody else in the league because the tackle situation.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Jim Harball would be one who who Absolutely, So yeah,
let's send the show there, Let's do it tomorrow.
Speaker 8 (45:31):
Negative.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
You got to end with a posit. Youve got a
positive here. Yeah, State ranked number one.
Speaker 6 (45:36):
Cowboys win Sunday.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (45:39):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 6 (45:40):
All Cowboys win big something with people went big.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
Other people care about here. It cares Bobby Bell, Jean,
Jacques Taylor, knew he scritch for Chris Bean, Josh everybody
else are part of the staff. Thank you so much.
This is Dallas Cowboys production.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and
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