March 26, 2025 • 46 mins
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Speaker 4 (00:26):
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I'm new Scruggs, Ed borders here, Jack Taylor, this is
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because Chris canceled the players Lounge for tomorrow.
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Speaker 5 (00:52):
Better better still.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Let's right, media mash. Let's speaking of Let's ride.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Russell Wilson is now in the division, guys, so it'll
be got them city. Let's ride Russell Wilson, who won
his only Super Bowl at MetLife Stadium in New Jersey,
Bruno Marshall's halftime show.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Very good halftime show.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
By the way, the only other quarterback to win a
playoff game in that stadium is who.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Eli Eli Eli and uh that day Russell dismantled his
brother Peyton.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
That was a route. That game was that game halftime?
Speaker 5 (01:27):
I mean it was like, okay, it was over the
minute the first play was snapped over Peyton's end. That
was all. How could that happen to Peyton manning the
most prepared band in the history of football?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yes? Yes, no, that was?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
That was the next year.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
That was that was? That was the one Peyton won.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Yeah, I forget.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
That was the one Peyton rolled on their backs. Where
told me before the game that Peyton went to me
and said, hey, guys, look.
Speaker 6 (01:52):
You guys I got and they took over the game
and anybody I'll give you what a guy, but I
ain't got much.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
I mean, what about the beauty of the self awareness
to say, man, I know what I got. It's like
a picture going to the manager. I might have about
four and a half five for you. Get the pool
pen ready to go, so that get you know, I'd
much rather have honesty. Then I got it and then
you know, crack, our crack put it on me exactly exactly.
(02:24):
So the fact that Russell Wilson is now in the
division and looking at other moves that are made. I
had somebody from NBC DC saying, can you cut us
something on the Cowboys, what they've done the off season
and what it's all looking like as we look around
the division. I said, are you trolling me? You know
what's been done? No, Jerry Beams, not much. You you
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gave us nothing, Fowler, that it is that what you
want to hear?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
But ed, what have they done well?
Speaker 5 (02:55):
I think for the Cowboys, free agency is judged not
by you know, how many players they signed, but how
many roster spots have they filled? And have they ultimately
closed the gap between the two teams that were in
the NFC Championship Game from their division last year, Washington
and the Super Bowl champion Eagles. And I would say
at this point probably not that's it, not.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Close to probably in there.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
I mean, Washington traded for Samuel Laramie Tunsalls, starting top
five left tackle. They got Deebo Samuel, the only player
in NFL history with twenty rushing touchdowns and twenty receiving touchdowns. Yeah,
he had an off year last years overweight, but I
got to think he's going to be pretty enthusiastic in
a contract year. With a new team with Cliff Kingsbury's imagination.
Speaker 7 (03:43):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
As far as you know the Eagles, I mean, they
lost their sack leader and their interception leader, but they've
made Saquon Barkley happy. They kept Zach Bond, two players
they signed in free agency last year made Johnson happy, right,
and they they made a couple of to bolster their
offensive line. They've lost some players on defense, for sure,
(04:05):
but I don't think the Cowboys have necessarily closed the gap.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
But they've bet.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
You got to give them credit for being more active
than they were last year. I mean, at least they
didn't just let players leave a year ago without replacing
the bodies. I think this year they feel like they've
done some things to improve their depth. Whether they have
or they have it, we'll see. I think Fowler is
the only guy for sure who makes a significant potential
difference on the on the defense.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
That's just I think they've set them The best thing
that they've done is set themselves up to perhaps just
draft the best player there, like they don't have to reach.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
And that's always their goal.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
Yeah, and they do well when they when they select
the best player, they do poorly in my opinion when
they when they reach or when they like, we got
to feel this knee, because then you're almost always getting
a lesser player for the value right there.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
So they've they've done. What they've done is it's not much.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
I don't think that they're necessarily better than they were
at the end of last year, and they were not
good at the end of last.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Year as we sit right here.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
But all that could change if they make moves that
we like on draft day.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Draft day, and then one thing that we know how
this works. After teams draft, they start to look at
their rosters and then they go back and they just
kind of look at some guys say do we really
need this player or what is this player making here?
How do we know there can be more people? I
go back and I think about Robert Quinn. The time
they got Robert Quinn, it was after the draft, and
you'll see that they'll have to mine how they go
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about their business in terms of just looking at where
can we get some deals, where can we find some
players that fit already? Because across this league there are
going to be teams who say, you know, now that
the draft is over, now we have free agency, this
player we don't have to have and you start moving
the players around. And the Cowboys have found people in
the past, and we'll see what else they can do.
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But right now, outside of making sure you're a specialty team,
stars are back. That's the biggest thing they did is
because we talked last week. But it's the strongest unit
on this team right now. It is you were gone ed,
but it's the special teams unit. Do you do disagree?
Speaker 5 (06:13):
Well, I think the essentially the offense is still position
going to be a strong group. Okay, if Dak is healthy,
I mean, he's demonstrated they win games and they make
the playoffs when he's healthy. That he hasn't been healthy
two of the last five years. Yeah, and so they
have to prepare for that eventuality, which have they.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
Well's see, I was going to ask you that, man,
it seems like it's organizational. I don't want to say
ineptitude is a better word, but.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
You can't now I like that word. I like that word.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
Okay, you can't go into a season given Deck's recent
injury history with no legitimate backup quarter back.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
Well like Will Greer, and he's on a roster, but
Trey Lance has his rights are now owned in the
CFL by a new team. We'll see if he goes
and plays there, which might not be the worst option
of all for him, although he cost the Cowboys a
fourth round pick for a guy who's playing quarterback in
the Canadian League. Potentially, I think he was pretty close.
He thought he had a shot at signing with Cleveland
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and then they traded for Kenny Pickett instead with the Eagles,
so he lost that.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Canada is the best buy for him. Just go play.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
I am with you one hundred percent. At this point
in time, Trey Lancing play in Canada. It is too
late for him to join the UFL. Go get some snaps,
get go play, yeah, get some play, little season man,
get some tape together.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Make sure that's not a part of the equation, Like
you're in the fact that you don't have enough snaps
for people to feel good about playing you. That can't
be the reason they choose not to put you on
the field anymore. It's too late in the game.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
This is on him now. You have to basically humble yourself.
This is just humble yourself to go get reps and
show people that you can still play. He's still a
young guy, and he came into the league at a
young age. So it's not like we're talking about some
dude who's twenty seven years old. Eight years old, I
mean he's he's younger than Michael Pennix the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
I think he was younger. That was a couple of
quarterbacks who were taken last year in the draft.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah, yeah, but I think.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
This draft matches up pretty well for what the Cowboys want,
with the exception of the thing they need the most,
which is wide receiver. We'll see who's there at twelve
should they stay there? But I mean, this is a
draft with a lot of defensive interior, defensive linemen, a
lot of edge players, some good corners, running back depth.
So I think they can help themselves a lot in
(08:26):
the draft, But they got to hit their picks, I.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Think at twelve and just we hear a lot of
different players. Mind, But to me, I wonder do they
do what they did when they drafted Roy Williams and
drafted Michael Parsonson moved down two slots or one or two, three, whatever,
just to try to accumulate some more picks in a
draft that has a lot of depth, you don't have
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a fourth at some point in time.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
They I've got to imagine they like to get that back.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Like people say, the player you get at fifteen in
this draft is the same the equivalent of a player
you're going to get at fifty or sixty in terms
of ability might be a different position he plays, but
you can still get quality players who can make a
difference in your season and get playing time as rookies
deep into this draft, and that's why they would want
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to accumulate as many picks as possible. But I think
that there's such an urgent need. I think their first
priority is wide receiver opposite Ceedee Lamb. I think I
used this told you this stat before. There's only three
teams in the league last year who had all of
their one hundred yard receiving games from a single player,
and the Cowboys were one of those three. It was
Washington with Terry McLaurin, Pittsburgh with the Pickens, and then
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the Cowboys with Ceedee Lamb. So obviously need a complimentary.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Player CD and the Maighties.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
The other two teams have already traded for a player
who should solve that problem. Right.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
So Ted McMillan from Arizona is a guy who's been there.
He played at He played for fourth this year when
Arizona played TCU, and I remember before the game, Sonny
Dykes had talked about, you know, how talented he was,
and that's the Sonny's background is offense. And the kid
came out there and Okay, yeah he could play. It
was one of those times when I'm out there watching, like, yeah,
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he can play. It's like when Colorado came to town.
Dennis Thurman said, well, you already know about Hunter, but
look at the other two guys and they all had
the one hundred yard games and said, yeah, I guess
so it's like, oh, okay, yeah they can play. And
so if he's there at twelve and I know some people,
you know, everybody's got a penny. I just looked at
the guy and said, you know what he can play.
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And if he's the Cowboys pick, I think they would
be happy.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
You like him better than Golden from Texas. Different kind
of player, Golden small of a speed gay.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
And therein lies kind of the what's your taste? And
this is where you literally have to go in. Hey,
Will McLay, what are you thinking? You know, you talk
to Schottenheimer, what is it you envision? How do you
want to use the player? I just know that damned
Milliner has got a wide, wide ratyce. I mean, the
guy can make plays and just just essentially, can you
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find playmaker if it's Golden making the play Ted mc
millan's so.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
I don't really care. Just they need playmakers. This must
agree with right, right?
Speaker 4 (11:08):
I mean, if i'd say this, they tell me if
one of those two guys are there twelve, I think
they'd be happy.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yes, I think so, Okay, Yeah, I think that would
be very happy.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
I don't think any doubt about it. You know.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
The thing about it for me is you can't It's
again malfeasans to go into a season where if Ceedee
Lamb goes down, you can't throw the ball, yeah, because
there's nobody who can get over.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah. And that's that's where.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
If Dak Prescott goes down, you can't throw the ball right,
and no matter who's back there, you can't really run
the ball in a dynamic sort of way. They've got
to get playmakers on this soft they haven't had. It's
been way too long since they've had a group of
dynamic playmakers on this offense. I mean to me, that's
why they lost in San Francisco three years ago in
the playoffs. You know, they had Tony Pollard and they
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had Ceedee Lamb and Pollard goes down at halftime and
everybody quits.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah, got the Star magazine out drafted.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
By the way, Ted McMillan is the number one receiver
that they have ranked here, followed by number two.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Luther Burton of Missouri.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Tray Harris of Old miss is number three, and somebody
had asked him at the combine, how do you make
sure you're not.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
You're more dk Metcalf than old boy. The Cowboys gave
up the fourth four h William Mingo. Yeah me Jonathan Oh,
I forgot about him. They just gave me gooes three.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
At the combine a Mecca Dobas at past unialteak.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Guy, Yeah, okay, Ohio state player.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Yeah, number four than Matthew Golden of Texas is five.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
I'd say those rankings are a little different now. I
mean the Texas just had a pro pro day yesterday.
Caught the ball well ran what four four eight?
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Yeah? See Bickley ran four four five four four seven today.
So everybody's now high on him now.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
And it's it's interesting that the head coach Brian Schottenheimer,
the defensive cord inter Matt Refluce or scouting players at
the Ohio State Pro Day. You know, I Refluce has
been to a lot of the SEC schools that have
had Pro Day's, Georgia, Alabama. He's missing LSUS to be
at Ohio States. I do some significance to that. I
do that. I think Ohio State has more players that
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they should.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Be interested in. You could always call Brian Kelly and asking.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Like you said, Will mccley, then.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Yes, yes, yes, there are other people who were there.
The Cowboys have been a great position either way. I
think they'd be in a good position. And you know,
depending on I said, which players you're liking it they time,
they they did enough research and timed it perfectly on
Michael Parsons where they knew what Philly won if they
made the trade and their guy would be there that
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picked up an extra pick worked out great. The Roy
Williams deal and w Kansas City wanted to come up
and they took Ryan Simms defensive tackle lot of Carolina
and then they went down two spots and still got
Roy and picked up a third se.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
The draft is a funny thing, right, I mean, they
never expected to take see Lamb. They didn't think he'd
be there. They didn't think they really needed a player there,
but he was too good to pass up. Goes to
what Jack said, like, pick the best player available, let
him help, let him be who he is, help you
where he can, and then don't expose yourself to making
a mistake because you're trying to force a need. But
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I mean they went into that Michael Parson's draft. They
weren't hoping to get Micah Parsons. They wanted one of
the corners. Both of them have signed with their teams.
By the way, to Micah has not signed. It's still
under his rookie contract, so that's another whole thing. But yeah,
I mean one of them has already been defensive Player
of the Year, right sir, and was a DENSIS Player
of the Year, and the Broncos signed it before he
became defensive Player of the Year, so they no doubt
got a good deal on that, or a better deal
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than they would have gotten. And then the other kid
is already corn. Yeah. J C. Horn has already signed
with Carolina second contract, but Micah still playing on his
rookie deal.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I think he'll still, you know, not go for the
forty He didn't need forty million.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
Think, didn't you just say the other day he did
say that during the season and then the other days
like I'd be the happiest man in the world if
I got forty million.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I would too.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Well, the market's chain Ceedee Lamb is no longer the
second highest bay non quarterback in football.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
As the great poet Fat Joe once said, yesterday's price
is not today's price. And that's what happened when Jerry
waited around on that. Speaking of quarterbacks, I don't know
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Back to media, mash all right, MENI mash right here
on Dallas Cowboys dot com. Jacques Taylor's here, edwarders here,
I am new he scruggs. So Texas Pro Day was
going down. Calvin Watkins was there giving his uh, his
play by play of Queen Yours and what he was
doing out there, the Texas quarter back who's led them
(18:00):
to the college football playoff two straight years. I had
people on my social media saying, hey, oh, Cowboys got
to get hymn and uh in the second round.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
He'd be in the second round, He'll be in the third,
he might be in in the fourth.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
That does them no good the fourth and might be.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
An I said, this is called a day three.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
What what happened to Quinn? You is man?
Speaker 6 (18:28):
He was uh one of the best prospects ever to
come out of Texas.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Uh. He led his team to the playoffs the last
two years he played. He's played through it hurt.
Speaker 6 (18:40):
I was gonna say he played through to a couple
of different oblique strains. I mean, why is everybody so
down on Queen Yours?
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Second round to the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
I ain't going at high Man, Okay.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
I mean I look at Quinn yours as a guy
that if the all right, this is the Cowboys taking
a quarterback, and you guys tell me, we've all covered
this team long enough to know the Cowboys is gonna
do it on the day three.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Day three k the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Now, this is this is Jacques Taylor philosophy.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
It's a wasted pick because if you look at the
starters in the NFL, not on th it's off the
top of my head, but twenty five or twenty six
of your current NFL starter as the first round picks.
A lot of those, maybe half of those are top
ten picks. There's a few outliers like Dak and Kirk
Cousins and Russell Wilson.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
Jaalen Hurts.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 6 (19:27):
There's a few outliers you have if you want to
a legitimate quarterback, even if it's a backup, you got
to get one in the first three or four rounds. Now,
you can find Tom Brady, He's your ultimate outlier. There's
Tony Romo outliers, But the odds that you find in
a serviceable backup quarterback in fifth sixth seventh round.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
As you know about like us picking up.
Speaker 6 (19:50):
I mean Ed's married to a supermodel, but it's like,
let's getting a supermodel later on tonight. I guess I
should say I'm married the one too. Other like that,
I'd be in troubled.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Look, you just.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Said backup, you can find a backup. And on day three?
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Who there are all the backups? Like for my first
round picks, who would.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Bus Cooper rush?
Speaker 6 (20:11):
Oh he's no longer here, okay, but there's crushes an outlie,
the Browns.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Them dudes they had up there behind watching who played
all year long? Got that he couldn't at that, he
couldn't get it done watching. You don't want trade now,
I'm just saying they had backups. You need a backup
who can play. Otherwise the season's over.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
A bunch of backups out there with the Raiders backup city.
I I don't think.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Is a first or second day pick in all likelihood.
I think he's more of a third day pick. I mean,
there's there's court you know, Jackson Dart, the kid from Syracuse,
Kyle McCord.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
See here's my question on Kyle Kyler.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Slow go with Kyle McCord. You're your Ohio State guy.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
It's the only question I have about Cayle McCord because
Kyle McCord kind of reminds me of a guy like
Kyle Allen. He's a five star quarterback coming out of
high school. He fits all your measurables. But now I'm
just saying this based off what I read and what
I saw. Part of playing quarterback is what he has
nothing to do with. Can you read coverages and play?
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It's can you handle the noise from the fan base
and social media and the media when you don't play well?
Are you mentally tough enough to handle the position? He
was not mentally tough enough to handle at Ohio State
and went to Syracuse and played great, in part because
there ain't no expectations of Syracuse.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
You get a six wins, seven wins, we happy man.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
And so the question that about Coyle McCord is can
he handle all the other stuff in college? I mean
at the NFL level, because clearly he has the physical
talent to play.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
It's that other stuff, man, that set him down.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Okay, I like that, Ed.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Let's go back to something when you and I have
both kind of retweeted about on social media when Jason
Garrett on The Dan Patrick Show told a fantastic story
about Dak Prescott and all the questions he had for
him about the DUI.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
As he was going through the process.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
So what you talked about with Kyle McCord, this is
where the Cowboys as an organization, they get McCord in
a room and you start nailing it down. So why
is it you were able to go out here and
ball out with no expectations, but over here there were
some issues and problems and oh, by the way, they
won a national championship without you. I mean, those are
the questions you asked to see what type of growth
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happened for the young man. Because Quinn Youwers left Ohio State,
went on to have a decent career.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
He had a good career, He got to the playoff twice.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Jalen Hurts left Alabama.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Right So so so I just simply say this to you,
You've asked.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
Queen Lewers went to another the same type of program.
Jalen Hurts went to the same type of program where
expectations start from.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
The moment house type you expected to be for a championship.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Kyle McCord went to a guy who knew him, so
he knew Fran Brown and at that point in time,
somebody you trust and you know that that's the movie
made clearly it was the right.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
No, that's what I said.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
And you know, uh, coming out he's a five star quarterback,
played with Marvin Harrison Junie and so you know, the
physical talent was not the question.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
That's why he won the start and jub it's the
other stuff.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Are we wasting our time talking about the Cowboys drafting
on quarterbacks as the last one they drafted was Ben Denucci.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Dude, I don't know why.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
You know that was McCarthy's first year, right, I mean
McCarthy fell in love with the guy obviously, and he
he didn't try harder for anybody to have a career
in the NFL than and he could never played. He did. Danucci,
he could never play.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
He could never play.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
He had some tony romo to him, as I recall some.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
Upper but they were both they both front office per
six foot six to two.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
It was like the same guy who said Brandon Whedon
throws one of the most beautiful balls I've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Brandon Whiedton couldn't play.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
Great gab, but he couldn't play.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
How about how about Will Howard?
Speaker 3 (23:57):
No, no, no, I'm like Will Howard.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
I think he's somebody the Cowboys would consider at some
point in this draft.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
At a lot of you know, we'll have I've had
a lot, a lot of playmakers around. It was like
the Malabama quarterbacks all of a sudden, Hey man, you
know you got all these great player Hey.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Mari, go get it.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
That worked for everybody, that works, That.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Works for everybody.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
I don't know, I mean outside of the CD land ain't
gonna be much. Will Howard, what you're gonna do after
they double the CD? Where you're going? He's holding the
balls and get sacked.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
Now, we already drafted McMillan in the first round. We
got a running back in the second round.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
And look if Will Greer is is shot these guys
and then hey they roll Will Greer, I personally.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
If we'll I here's the deal. Will Greer can be
your guy. He can be your gay.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
But if you have to play in five games and he.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
Looked like bust to McFadden whoever that is, then you
go get your butt kicked for making him your gay.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
I I don't.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
There's no grace if you make bust to McFadden your gay.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
I would not be drafting a coord back and found
the cowboy ever had no point.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
This, not this, not this drap.
Speaker 12 (25:03):
No.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
I think they've got so many other needs at other
levels that I think Kyle mccorr is going to be
a day three guy. You start looking at day three,
you don't have a four. So then you try to
go in the fifth. You want to use a fifth
on a quarterback?
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Can I tell you this now?
Speaker 6 (25:21):
This is This is the Jacques Taylor philosophy built over
thirty something years of covinant cowboys, influenced by Larry Lacewell.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Okay, I don't care what you do after the fourth round.
They are darts.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Okay, Well, so if you.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
Want to take him in the fifth round, I say, hey, KNTLF,
i't take.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Him in the fifth round.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
You know what, Throw another body at linebacker, throw another body.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
After the first four picks. I don't care.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
That's to me. I'm just saying that's what i'd be
looking at, because.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
Looking for cats with traits, maybe we can hit them
and they do a pretty good job right there.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Sure, hitting on cats with traits.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
I just said, I just think they've got so many
that they are trying to fill and plug that I
in the fifth round. Please go you know what, Go
find me another bland. You do that before you try
to find me a guy that, even if you take him,
he's gonna be sitting behind back most likely if Dak
stays healthy.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
And becoming a bigger if as a years ago.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
But that's why is important. It's not in a different circumstance.
It wouldn't be that big a deal because he's like, oh,
he's played sixteen games four years a row.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
He good. But he did that for Jason Garrett. He
didn't do it very often.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
For Michael Right.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
So at some point you should have to assume I'm
probably gonna need a quarterback for three or four weeks.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
I'd say four games.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
How about Milroe is a developmental guy and a package
guy who could play in short gartage red zone.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
I haven't heard anything about mil Row in the last
couple of weeks, even though he ran great at Alabama,
I haven't heard anything.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
This is one of those two where thirty six touchdowns
in his career twenty rush touchdowns for quarterback.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
This is where you're This is where you're a head coach,
you know, and his.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
His vision, right, this is where what does he want
at that position?
Speaker 2 (27:09):
You know?
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Can they can they take Jalen mill Row and plug
him in the way the Eagles did a Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
I think that's what you're hoping he could become right
in time. Yeah, he is a Jalen Hurts type of quarterback.
And so that once again, this is about day three.
Talk about a Day three pick, and yes, you could
say throw darts out here, but I just think they've
got so many needs at different level.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Because we talked, we talked last week when you were gone,
what's the best position group on this team?
Speaker 2 (27:37):
And we all set special teams overwhelming.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
So linebackers they've got issues, and you've got a lot
of a lot of one year people that you've thrown
at different spots. But they long term, they need to
get some guys who are going to be under contract
for four years as they start to try to build
this thing up.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
Leah foul is a good player. The free agent they
just got from the Bears has seemed like he's been
a good player. You're hoping over Shawan comes back and
is the player he's vowed to be in the player
you saw before this most recent kN the injury, but
he has suffered an acl TEAAR two years in a row,
so you've got to be wary of that.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Maybe get them both out the way. He's ready to
go because he was.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
Yeah, but I mean the corner corner situation is one
that has to be addressed. I would think high in
this draft. That's gonna be a high problem, maybe even
a first round if the receivers are gone. I mean,
who do they take if the receivers are gone? What
position are you looking for? Are you looking for an edge,
best edge rusher, best corner? I think they need both
of those things in a big way.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
So when you say that to me, I immediately think four
to five the lines offensive and defensive.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
So you're trying to take the guard from Adam Missouri.
I ain't taking none while he would because here we
go again.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
We got three first round offensive linemen. Only team in
the league can't can't tank to coach.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
We got all these coaches they just hired.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
Y'all better developed some third and four fifth round picks
in them into serviceable players.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
You know, my first thoughts still always go to the
D line because I'm in a division where they're Saquon Barkley.
I'm in a division where Washington is going to try
to run the football and they've got they've got a
quarterback which makes play action passing.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
So to me, I'm still you you.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
Got to know they're going to come out out of
this draft with one of those backs. I mean, Robinson
just is not a reliable enough player, not an explosive
enough player, fumbles too much. So I got to think
in a deep draft with right now, the Commanders are
going to go make a priority pick at running back.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Yeah, so that's I'm still I'm still looking at how
the Cowboys, when they've been in the playoffs under in
the McCarthy are, it got put out by teams who
could run, and when they lost games against teams who
could run the football, they had not fixed that.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Also, Diggi Zua helped them retain a player.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
But but they're but their best teams in the dac
Era were teams that could run the football first sure,
and I think that, I mean, I think we all
get sense that's the way Schottenheimer wants to move this team.
That's direction he's headed, and so for that reason, maybe
drafting an offensive lineman and a back with the first
two picks makes sense. That's what Garrett did. He prioritized
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the offensive line and use a fourth overall pick on
a running back and convince the defensive staff that Zeke
Elliott is gonna be one of your best players too,
because he's gonna keep you off the field.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Yes, yes, you've said this before on the medium, Masha,
and I will I'm I'm agreeing with you from that
standpoint that at some point in time, get one side
of this ball better. But you definitely cannot keep running
out here the defensive game plan and you've been running
out here because I ain't worked in four years. If
you can run the ball on the Cowboys and feel
(30:39):
and you can wear them down, so yes, run. They
need a better running back. But sure the running back
room is better than last year, but it's still, in
my mind, not where it needs to be. So that'll
get addressed here.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
But they have to.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Figure I mean, what's Sakwon Barkley gonna do now that
he's comfortable.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
You know, that's a very interesting question. And I say
that from the sense of we've all seen runbacks fall
off a cliff at twenty eight. He's already twenty eight,
coming off a career high and carries. I loved him
last year. I hope he can do it, but I'm
curious to see whether he's well Adrian Peterson and Emmitt
(31:22):
Smith or whether he's la Damian Thomson.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
There's another factor in that equation, too, and that's Kellen
Moore's not the coordinator anymore.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
Howie Rosen was telling him what to do. Anyway, run
that ball, Joyce stick.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
So I think secon One is a great I mean,
it'll be fascinating to see what he does this year.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
I mean, they ran the ball more than any team
in football.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Last year, and he carried a lot of that long.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
And can he be possibly be better than he was?
That seems like a stretch, yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Because he was.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
He was treating it like college football last year. He
was going fifty.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
But then but then at this time last year, we're like, oh,
they lost Jason Kelcey on the offensive line. They're taking
a big hit there.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
But now they get a great offense.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
How he knows what he's doing over there, playing catch
up to Howie. When we come back here, on the
medium ash that wild trade you spoke about before the show,
that wild wild trade.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Which one.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
There's a couple of wild trades being speculated about out.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
This This one made a little bit more sense.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
This one has some legitimacy.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yeah, this one made this.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
This one involving the quarterback has knowledge.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
No.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
No, once again people throwing out names and not understanding
the salary cap implication.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
Those negotiations are going on right now as we speak.
I heard, I read it. I mean I believe everything
I read.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
And I lived in that town where they once. Somebody
once went on the air after the Browns lefton said
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers were coming to Cleveland, and it
never happened.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Maybe they played a road game.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Well, this is when they This is when they had
no tea, and the Buccaneers, of my knowledge, are still
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Okay, all right, let's let's do that.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
The Sports Illustrated trade proposal between the Patriots and the
Cowboy was entertained the masses here.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
I thought this was interesting.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
Most of these pull your voice got high.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
And don't pay any attention to it. But this was
a carry moment.
Speaker 6 (35:57):
This was the Patriots acquired Michael Parsons.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
I didn't suggest this.
Speaker 6 (36:02):
This is the people Patriots acquired Michael Parsons. The Cowboys
get the fourth pick, the thirty eighth pick, and a
one hundred and forty fourth pick in this draft. That's
a first round, second round, and fifth round this year,
a first round next year.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
And a third round in twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 6 (36:20):
And the reason I thought it was interesting is what
would you do if Dallas had the fourth pick, the
twelfth pick, the thirty eighth pick, the forty fourth pick,
and the seventy sixth pick, which is their own third
round pick. That's five of the top seventy six players
for the top forty four, two of.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
The top twelve.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
You could rebuild your team even though you're missing a superstar.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
It was gonna cost you an enormous amount of money.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
That's the other thing.
Speaker 6 (36:49):
Now, now they don't spend no money, So I don't
know if saving money helps.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
But you know, what would you do with that? Because
if you I mean, it's just it.
Speaker 6 (36:57):
Was interesting because you get to keep the twelve and
so for the top forty four you can fill all
those needs you want.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
So at four, potentially you could get a guy who
would help you in two critical aspects of your And.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
See that's not a crazy thing because you say.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
Travis Hunter could be a starting corner and or receiver, right,
but you still got to get a pass rusher.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Right, but maybe look you don't have one.
Speaker 6 (37:21):
Clearly, twelve you can grab whoever's whoever you want there,
the receiver or whatever you want.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
You got that.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
When's the last time the Cowboys moved a young player
of this consequence?
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Hersel?
Speaker 4 (37:39):
And see when you talk about, hey, what do you
do with all that? Jimmy Johnson ain't walking through that door.
Speaker 6 (37:46):
You don't have no, you don't have no. You don't
have no faith in Will. You don't believe in Will.
Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 4 (37:52):
If Will was making was able to make all the
decisions without any help and input. Yeah, but that ain't
had its works around here, laboratid. Jimmy went collaborating. Jimmy
was out there. I want this guy, I know this guy.
I recruited that guy. I mean Jimmy was operating from
a serious position of strength because he not only helped
(38:13):
invent the draft chart, but he knew so many of
the players that he was taking back then that he
had an industry knowledge staft too right, that they had
either recruited them or somehow they they might against them. Right,
they knew what they were getting. So to me, if
you when you talk about doing things like this, and
most times when you see people.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
With the Cowboys, Shane Niver's new staff, several guys just
out of the college game. See see they are somewhat
connected and in real conferences.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Big twelve quarterback went in Super Bowl last two years.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Yeah, he's really sec quarterback who went to the Big toil.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
The wide receiver coach came from Oregon, which is the
Big ten I believe.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Okay, throwing it out there for you, juat.
Speaker 5 (39:01):
Would you trade Michael Parsons for that? To Michah Parsons
and two hundred million dollars.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
You don't have to pay no, no, how mean, how
many stars were trying to get rid of in the city.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
We're not. We're not bringing the mavericks dirty laundry over here.
I think you'd have to think about it.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
If it was on the table, you'd have to they're
getting Tom Brady and Wes Welker, you'd have to say
the deal.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Dang. Uh, you'd have a real young team.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
But I mean, how are you going to find a
pass rusher who's anywhere near as good as he is?
Like unless Carter is there?
Speaker 6 (39:37):
But Carter, Carter probably would not be there. Uh, And
you could And the problem with that trade is you
could get hosed.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Meaning if.
Speaker 6 (39:49):
If cam Wood went first, Carter went second in the
Giants Tate Travis Hunter, You're.
Speaker 5 (39:56):
Like, who's the best player on your board? Now?
Speaker 3 (39:59):
Shoud door Sanders. We don't need that guy. And now
now now you're like, uh, can I flip.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
It the other way? Why would the Patriots do this?
We're not being like that.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Now we play fair?
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Can I play the Mickey Spagnola here?
Speaker 5 (40:11):
Have you seen how bad? I mean they were? I
think they were finished. Only Atlanta had fewer sacks than
the Patriots last year young and they have committed an
enormous amount of money and free agency to defensive linemen.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
Hey, Robert Craft wants to win, Mike Rabel, Mike Rabel
wants to win.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
Big defensive orientation lie.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Back Ohio states big tip, big tip.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
A lot to get.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
That's a lot to coach JJ Watt. And there's a
value of a.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Password that is a lot. That's that's a lot to
give up, a lot to give up.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
That's what I don't think I would say the Patriots
would not give up all that.
Speaker 6 (40:42):
I don't think they worse. No, they'd have to get
something back, you know, something big.
Speaker 5 (40:47):
But I just, I just and we have to we
have to mention the soak and opportunity. Time to mention
that sports illustrated now isn't what it was thirty years
ago when we would run out what it was, but
especially not what it was thirty years ago. No, I
z throwing out the trader Peter King putting this trade
package together.
Speaker 6 (41:06):
No it ain't no somebody else, this is this is
I just once again, I think to myself, the Patriots
has a lot to give up, and and okay, you're
talking about giving up that thank you, that was the
next portion.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
Normally you don't give up that much. And nobody the
way we got to sit around here and sign a guy.
It's like I said years ago when when the Colts
traded Marshall Falk, they got a two and a five,
because it's like the reason why is because back then
he wanted this big fat contract. So it's like a
baseball trade. You're you're you're not gonna get everything here.
If I got to pay him a lot of money,
(41:41):
I'm gonna give you a lot, give you less picks,
so you know it normally. See, see the problem is people,
I've been sitting around there looking at the basketball trades
fleece team, but no, everybody ain't like that.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
I ain't like that.
Speaker 5 (41:56):
So so we're saying the Patriots would never offer this much,
and you and I still would not take it.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
I would not because look, it's like, what did the
Rams do with all those picks they got.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
From the Golts? Nothing for Eric Diggers. I mean, it's
it's rare, is it? People make these big old deals
and get all these picks.
Speaker 5 (42:19):
Rare? Is it?
Speaker 4 (42:20):
They do what Jimmy did with herschel Walker. It is
so rare, it is hard. I remember when the Patriot
now the Patriots, but when Minnesota move off Randy Moss
and they took the kid out of South Carolina, Troy
Williamson was his name.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
No, Randy wasn't even a good starter, never made a prob.
But nothing it is. It is hard to replace bigtime talents.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Why she had never traded Luca.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Yeah, man, this is true, This is true. So I
just one. I don't think the Patriots do it. It's
way too much to give up.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
And you're gonna have to give a guy over forty
million dollars a year.
Speaker 5 (42:57):
They think they can convince Nico to do it, they're
calling the wrong number in Dallas.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
Man putting Davis did play the other day, they won
in the night next night off, Yeah, didn't play a man, dude,
what a great job in the NBA back to back. Yeah,
I'm not painting the same, but I'm not playing it
next night.
Speaker 5 (43:21):
But you gotta respect that he came back and played
at all, because it sounded like he wasn't going to.
Speaker 4 (43:28):
I think at some point in time somebody said, look,
if we do get somebody statistic, if we do if
we missed the playoffs, we got this one ping pong
ball that's got a chance of doing zero for us.
You might as well just go ahead, getting to play
in and see what happens. You'll get, you'll get, you'll
be better off there. When he plays, he's good. Anthony
(43:54):
Davis is good. It's just that play thing. It's problem.
It's problem, the big problem. But when he has played
on the court aisle.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
He's cool.
Speaker 4 (44:06):
Yeah. That's the problem though. And and look it's it's
tough opening days tomorrow. You going Rangers red?
Speaker 3 (44:14):
Uh No, go, sir.
Speaker 5 (44:16):
I'm a Braves soon. I'll go see the Braves from
they're here in July.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
Ravees Man. I grew up on Braves baseball. I remember
when Dale Murphy was a catcher.
Speaker 5 (44:25):
I remember when Dale Murphy was a catcher and he
threw it in the center field and his father said, son,
they'd have been trying to steal center field. You'd had him.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Back when Bobby Cox was there the first time.
Speaker 4 (44:37):
Yeah, and they had Pascual Prez, Bob Horner, Raphael or Marez,
Glenn Hubbard, and.
Speaker 5 (44:43):
I go back to Paul Casanova, Taco Bell, Cleat Boyer,
Mike Lum, Hank Aaron, Dusty Baker, Ralph Carr, Phil Nicro
Buzz Capra.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
I go back to the Big Red Machine at the
mid seven and Joe Morgan and Dave.
Speaker 6 (44:59):
Concepcion Foster's and Dan Drees in at first base for
a little while, and roleyst Eastwood coming out the bullpen
and Tom.
Speaker 5 (45:06):
Dan Cesar Geronimo, one of the great Houston Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
That was the other Caesar in Houston.
Speaker 4 (45:15):
Uh about, Yeah, I know who you're talking about, but
he's right yeah in Cincinnati.
Speaker 6 (45:21):
Yeah, Ken Griffy on the other side, and George Foster
and left. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking about. Joe Posnansky's book,
The Big Red Machine. If you have not read it
in it's a fantastic That's everything. I did that because
my dad lived in Cincinnati when I was a when
I was a kid, so we used to go up
there every summer. It's all about the Big Red Machine
and the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
You know what, man braids were.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
Just an afterthought.
Speaker 6 (45:44):
Although I was listening to night Pete Rose's forty four
game hitting streak ended against the Braves.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
Good stuff.
Speaker 5 (45:51):
It was on the mountain.
Speaker 6 (45:52):
I remember his name, but I can't remember his name.
Like once you tell me, I'll be like, oh yeah,
that guy.
Speaker 5 (45:57):
Craig and Big Birchery Craig.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
I remember remember thirty seven?
Speaker 5 (46:01):
Yeah, yeah, from Texas, Texas kid.
Speaker 6 (46:04):
Now, I remembered it as soon as you said I
remembered it, but I remember the name, but I couldn't remember.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
And today's kids don't know darn thing about baseball because
they don't want.
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Speaker 4 (00:58):
Russell Wilson is now in the division, guys, so it'll
be got them city. Let's ride Russell Wilson, who won
his only Super Bowl at MetLife Stadium in New Jersey,
Bruno Marshall's halftime show.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Very good halftime show.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
By the way, the only other quarterback to win a
playoff game in that stadium is who.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Eli Eli Eli and uh that day Russell dismantled his
brother Peyton.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
That was a route. That game was that game halftime?
Speaker 5 (01:27):
I mean it was like, okay, it was over the
minute the first play was snapped over Peyton's end. That
was all. How could that happen to Peyton manning the
most prepared band in the history of football?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yes? Yes, no, that was?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
That was the next year.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
That was that was? That was the one Peyton won.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Yeah, I forget.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
That was the one Peyton rolled on their backs. Where
told me before the game that Peyton went to me
and said, hey, guys, look.
Speaker 6 (01:52):
You guys I got and they took over the game
and anybody I'll give you what a guy, but I
ain't got much.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
I mean, what about the beauty of the self awareness
to say, man, I know what I got. It's like
a picture going to the manager. I might have about
four and a half five for you. Get the pool
pen ready to go, so that get you know, I'd
much rather have honesty. Then I got it and then
you know, crack, our crack put it on me exactly exactly.
(02:24):
So the fact that Russell Wilson is now in the
division and looking at other moves that are made. I
had somebody from NBC DC saying, can you cut us
something on the Cowboys, what they've done the off season
and what it's all looking like as we look around
the division. I said, are you trolling me? You know
what's been done? No, Jerry Beams, not much. You you
(02:48):
gave us nothing, Fowler, that it is that what you
want to hear?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
But ed, what have they done well?
Speaker 5 (02:55):
I think for the Cowboys, free agency is judged not
by you know, how many players they signed, but how
many roster spots have they filled? And have they ultimately
closed the gap between the two teams that were in
the NFC Championship Game from their division last year, Washington
and the Super Bowl champion Eagles. And I would say
at this point probably not that's it, not.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Close to probably in there.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
I mean, Washington traded for Samuel Laramie Tunsalls, starting top
five left tackle. They got Deebo Samuel, the only player
in NFL history with twenty rushing touchdowns and twenty receiving touchdowns. Yeah,
he had an off year last years overweight, but I
got to think he's going to be pretty enthusiastic in
a contract year. With a new team with Cliff Kingsbury's imagination.
Speaker 7 (03:43):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
As far as you know the Eagles, I mean, they
lost their sack leader and their interception leader, but they've
made Saquon Barkley happy. They kept Zach Bond, two players
they signed in free agency last year made Johnson happy, right,
and they they made a couple of to bolster their
offensive line. They've lost some players on defense, for sure,
(04:05):
but I don't think the Cowboys have necessarily closed the gap.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
But they've bet.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
You got to give them credit for being more active
than they were last year. I mean, at least they
didn't just let players leave a year ago without replacing
the bodies. I think this year they feel like they've
done some things to improve their depth. Whether they have
or they have it, we'll see. I think Fowler is
the only guy for sure who makes a significant potential
difference on the on the defense.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
That's just I think they've set them The best thing
that they've done is set themselves up to perhaps just
draft the best player there, like they don't have to reach.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
And that's always their goal.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
Yeah, and they do well when they when they select
the best player, they do poorly in my opinion when
they when they reach or when they like, we got
to feel this knee, because then you're almost always getting
a lesser player for the value right there.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
So they've they've done. What they've done is it's not much.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
I don't think that they're necessarily better than they were
at the end of last year, and they were not
good at the end of last.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Year as we sit right here.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
But all that could change if they make moves that
we like on draft day.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Draft day, and then one thing that we know how
this works. After teams draft, they start to look at
their rosters and then they go back and they just
kind of look at some guys say do we really
need this player or what is this player making here?
How do we know there can be more people? I
go back and I think about Robert Quinn. The time
they got Robert Quinn, it was after the draft, and
you'll see that they'll have to mine how they go
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about their business in terms of just looking at where
can we get some deals, where can we find some
players that fit already? Because across this league there are
going to be teams who say, you know, now that
the draft is over, now we have free agency, this
player we don't have to have and you start moving
the players around. And the Cowboys have found people in
the past, and we'll see what else they can do.
(05:56):
But right now, outside of making sure you're a specialty team,
stars are back. That's the biggest thing they did is
because we talked last week. But it's the strongest unit
on this team right now. It is you were gone ed,
but it's the special teams unit. Do you do disagree?
Speaker 5 (06:13):
Well, I think the essentially the offense is still position
going to be a strong group. Okay, if Dak is healthy,
I mean, he's demonstrated they win games and they make
the playoffs when he's healthy. That he hasn't been healthy
two of the last five years. Yeah, and so they
have to prepare for that eventuality, which have they.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
Well's see, I was going to ask you that, man,
it seems like it's organizational. I don't want to say
ineptitude is a better word, but.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
You can't now I like that word. I like that word.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
Okay, you can't go into a season given Deck's recent
injury history with no legitimate backup quarter back.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
Well like Will Greer, and he's on a roster, but
Trey Lance has his rights are now owned in the
CFL by a new team. We'll see if he goes
and plays there, which might not be the worst option
of all for him, although he cost the Cowboys a
fourth round pick for a guy who's playing quarterback in
the Canadian League. Potentially, I think he was pretty close.
He thought he had a shot at signing with Cleveland
(07:12):
and then they traded for Kenny Pickett instead with the Eagles,
so he lost that.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Canada is the best buy for him. Just go play.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
I am with you one hundred percent. At this point
in time, Trey Lancing play in Canada. It is too
late for him to join the UFL. Go get some snaps,
get go play, yeah, get some play, little season man,
get some tape together.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Make sure that's not a part of the equation, Like
you're in the fact that you don't have enough snaps
for people to feel good about playing you. That can't
be the reason they choose not to put you on
the field anymore. It's too late in the game.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
This is on him now. You have to basically humble yourself.
This is just humble yourself to go get reps and
show people that you can still play. He's still a
young guy, and he came into the league at a
young age. So it's not like we're talking about some
dude who's twenty seven years old. Eight years old, I
mean he's he's younger than Michael Pennix the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
I think he was younger. That was a couple of
quarterbacks who were taken last year in the draft.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah, yeah, but I think.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
This draft matches up pretty well for what the Cowboys want,
with the exception of the thing they need the most,
which is wide receiver. We'll see who's there at twelve
should they stay there? But I mean, this is a
draft with a lot of defensive interior, defensive linemen, a
lot of edge players, some good corners, running back depth.
So I think they can help themselves a lot in
(08:26):
the draft, But they got to hit their picks, I.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Think at twelve and just we hear a lot of
different players. Mind, But to me, I wonder do they
do what they did when they drafted Roy Williams and
drafted Michael Parsonson moved down two slots or one or two, three, whatever,
just to try to accumulate some more picks in a
draft that has a lot of depth, you don't have
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a fourth at some point in time.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
They I've got to imagine they like to get that back.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Like people say, the player you get at fifteen in
this draft is the same the equivalent of a player
you're going to get at fifty or sixty in terms
of ability might be a different position he plays, but
you can still get quality players who can make a
difference in your season and get playing time as rookies
deep into this draft, and that's why they would want
(09:14):
to accumulate as many picks as possible. But I think
that there's such an urgent need. I think their first
priority is wide receiver opposite Ceedee Lamb. I think I
used this told you this stat before. There's only three
teams in the league last year who had all of
their one hundred yard receiving games from a single player,
and the Cowboys were one of those three. It was
Washington with Terry McLaurin, Pittsburgh with the Pickens, and then
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the Cowboys with Ceedee Lamb. So obviously need a complimentary.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Player CD and the Maighties.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
The other two teams have already traded for a player
who should solve that problem. Right.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
So Ted McMillan from Arizona is a guy who's been there.
He played at He played for fourth this year when
Arizona played TCU, and I remember before the game, Sonny
Dykes had talked about, you know, how talented he was,
and that's the Sonny's background is offense. And the kid
came out there and Okay, yeah he could play. It
was one of those times when I'm out there watching, like, yeah,
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he can play. It's like when Colorado came to town.
Dennis Thurman said, well, you already know about Hunter, but
look at the other two guys and they all had
the one hundred yard games and said, yeah, I guess
so it's like, oh, okay, yeah they can play. And
so if he's there at twelve and I know some people,
you know, everybody's got a penny. I just looked at
the guy and said, you know what he can play.
(10:29):
And if he's the Cowboys pick, I think they would
be happy.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
You like him better than Golden from Texas. Different kind
of player, Golden small of a speed gay.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
And therein lies kind of the what's your taste? And
this is where you literally have to go in. Hey,
Will McLay, what are you thinking? You know, you talk
to Schottenheimer, what is it you envision? How do you
want to use the player? I just know that damned
Milliner has got a wide, wide ratyce. I mean, the
guy can make plays and just just essentially, can you
(10:59):
find playmaker if it's Golden making the play Ted mc
millan's so.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
I don't really care. Just they need playmakers. This must
agree with right, right?
Speaker 4 (11:08):
I mean, if i'd say this, they tell me if
one of those two guys are there twelve, I think
they'd be happy.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yes, I think so, Okay, Yeah, I think that would
be very happy.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
I don't think any doubt about it. You know.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
The thing about it for me is you can't It's
again malfeasans to go into a season where if Ceedee
Lamb goes down, you can't throw the ball, yeah, because
there's nobody who can get over.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah. And that's that's where.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
If Dak Prescott goes down, you can't throw the ball right,
and no matter who's back there, you can't really run
the ball in a dynamic sort of way. They've got
to get playmakers on this soft they haven't had. It's
been way too long since they've had a group of
dynamic playmakers on this offense. I mean to me, that's
why they lost in San Francisco three years ago in
the playoffs. You know, they had Tony Pollard and they
(11:54):
had Ceedee Lamb and Pollard goes down at halftime and
everybody quits.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah, got the Star magazine out drafted.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
By the way, Ted McMillan is the number one receiver
that they have ranked here, followed by number two.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Luther Burton of Missouri.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Tray Harris of Old miss is number three, and somebody
had asked him at the combine, how do you make
sure you're not.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
You're more dk Metcalf than old boy. The Cowboys gave
up the fourth four h William Mingo. Yeah me Jonathan Oh,
I forgot about him. They just gave me gooes three.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
At the combine a Mecca Dobas at past unialteak.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Guy, Yeah, okay, Ohio state player.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Yeah, number four than Matthew Golden of Texas is five.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
I'd say those rankings are a little different now. I
mean the Texas just had a pro pro day yesterday.
Caught the ball well ran what four four eight?
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Yeah? See Bickley ran four four five four four seven today.
So everybody's now high on him now.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
And it's it's interesting that the head coach Brian Schottenheimer,
the defensive cord inter Matt Refluce or scouting players at
the Ohio State Pro Day. You know, I Refluce has
been to a lot of the SEC schools that have
had Pro Day's, Georgia, Alabama. He's missing LSUS to be
at Ohio States. I do some significance to that. I
do that. I think Ohio State has more players that
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they should.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Be interested in. You could always call Brian Kelly and asking.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Like you said, Will mccley, then.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Yes, yes, yes, there are other people who were there.
The Cowboys have been a great position either way. I
think they'd be in a good position. And you know,
depending on I said, which players you're liking it they time,
they they did enough research and timed it perfectly on
Michael Parsons where they knew what Philly won if they
made the trade and their guy would be there that
(13:44):
picked up an extra pick worked out great. The Roy
Williams deal and w Kansas City wanted to come up
and they took Ryan Simms defensive tackle lot of Carolina
and then they went down two spots and still got
Roy and picked up a third se.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
The draft is a funny thing, right, I mean, they
never expected to take see Lamb. They didn't think he'd
be there. They didn't think they really needed a player there,
but he was too good to pass up. Goes to
what Jack said, like, pick the best player available, let
him help, let him be who he is, help you
where he can, and then don't expose yourself to making
a mistake because you're trying to force a need. But
(14:17):
I mean they went into that Michael Parson's draft. They
weren't hoping to get Micah Parsons. They wanted one of
the corners. Both of them have signed with their teams.
By the way, to Micah has not signed. It's still
under his rookie contract, so that's another whole thing. But yeah,
I mean one of them has already been defensive Player
of the Year, right sir, and was a DENSIS Player
of the Year, and the Broncos signed it before he
became defensive Player of the Year, so they no doubt
got a good deal on that, or a better deal
(14:38):
than they would have gotten. And then the other kid
is already corn. Yeah. J C. Horn has already signed
with Carolina second contract, but Micah still playing on his
rookie deal.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I think he'll still, you know, not go for the
forty He didn't need forty million.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
Think, didn't you just say the other day he did
say that during the season and then the other days
like I'd be the happiest man in the world if
I got forty million.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I would too.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Well, the market's chain Ceedee Lamb is no longer the
second highest bay non quarterback in football.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
As the great poet Fat Joe once said, yesterday's price
is not today's price. And that's what happened when Jerry
waited around on that. Speaking of quarterbacks, I don't know
if your social media was hit like mine, as people
were talking about a particular quarterback here in state that
they think that the Cowboys may want to get because
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Back to media, mash all right, MENI mash right here
on Dallas Cowboys dot com. Jacques Taylor's here, edwarders here,
I am new he scruggs. So Texas Pro Day was
going down. Calvin Watkins was there giving his uh, his
play by play of Queen Yours and what he was
doing out there, the Texas quarter back who's led them
(18:00):
to the college football playoff two straight years. I had
people on my social media saying, hey, oh, Cowboys got
to get hymn and uh in the second round.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
He'd be in the second round, He'll be in the third,
he might be in in the fourth.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
That does them no good the fourth and might be.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
An I said, this is called a day three.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
What what happened to Quinn? You is man?
Speaker 6 (18:28):
He was uh one of the best prospects ever to
come out of Texas.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Uh. He led his team to the playoffs the last
two years he played. He's played through it hurt.
Speaker 6 (18:40):
I was gonna say he played through to a couple
of different oblique strains. I mean, why is everybody so
down on Queen Yours?
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Second round to the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
I ain't going at high Man, Okay.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
I mean I look at Quinn yours as a guy
that if the all right, this is the Cowboys taking
a quarterback, and you guys tell me, we've all covered
this team long enough to know the Cowboys is gonna
do it on the day three.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Day three k the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Now, this is this is Jacques Taylor philosophy.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
It's a wasted pick because if you look at the
starters in the NFL, not on th it's off the
top of my head, but twenty five or twenty six
of your current NFL starter as the first round picks.
A lot of those, maybe half of those are top
ten picks. There's a few outliers like Dak and Kirk
Cousins and Russell Wilson.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
Jaalen Hurts.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 6 (19:27):
There's a few outliers you have if you want to
a legitimate quarterback, even if it's a backup, you got
to get one in the first three or four rounds. Now,
you can find Tom Brady, He's your ultimate outlier. There's
Tony Romo outliers, But the odds that you find in
a serviceable backup quarterback in fifth sixth seventh round.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
As you know about like us picking up.
Speaker 6 (19:50):
I mean Ed's married to a supermodel, but it's like,
let's getting a supermodel later on tonight. I guess I
should say I'm married the one too. Other like that,
I'd be in troubled.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Look, you just.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Said backup, you can find a backup. And on day three?
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Who there are all the backups? Like for my first
round picks, who would.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Bus Cooper rush?
Speaker 6 (20:11):
Oh he's no longer here, okay, but there's crushes an outlie,
the Browns.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Them dudes they had up there behind watching who played
all year long? Got that he couldn't at that, he
couldn't get it done watching. You don't want trade now,
I'm just saying they had backups. You need a backup
who can play. Otherwise the season's over.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
A bunch of backups out there with the Raiders backup city.
I I don't think.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Is a first or second day pick in all likelihood.
I think he's more of a third day pick. I mean,
there's there's court you know, Jackson Dart, the kid from Syracuse,
Kyle McCord.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
See here's my question on Kyle Kyler.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Slow go with Kyle McCord. You're your Ohio State guy.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
It's the only question I have about Cayle McCord because
Kyle McCord kind of reminds me of a guy like
Kyle Allen. He's a five star quarterback coming out of
high school. He fits all your measurables. But now I'm
just saying this based off what I read and what
I saw. Part of playing quarterback is what he has
nothing to do with. Can you read coverages and play?
(21:11):
It's can you handle the noise from the fan base
and social media and the media when you don't play well?
Are you mentally tough enough to handle the position? He
was not mentally tough enough to handle at Ohio State
and went to Syracuse and played great, in part because
there ain't no expectations of Syracuse.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
You get a six wins, seven wins, we happy man.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
And so the question that about Coyle McCord is can
he handle all the other stuff in college? I mean
at the NFL level, because clearly he has the physical
talent to play.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
It's that other stuff, man, that set him down.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Okay, I like that, Ed.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Let's go back to something when you and I have
both kind of retweeted about on social media when Jason
Garrett on The Dan Patrick Show told a fantastic story
about Dak Prescott and all the questions he had for
him about the DUI.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
As he was going through the process.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
So what you talked about with Kyle McCord, this is
where the Cowboys as an organization, they get McCord in
a room and you start nailing it down. So why
is it you were able to go out here and
ball out with no expectations, but over here there were
some issues and problems and oh, by the way, they
won a national championship without you. I mean, those are
the questions you asked to see what type of growth
(22:23):
happened for the young man. Because Quinn Youwers left Ohio State,
went on to have a decent career.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
He had a good career, He got to the playoff twice.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Jalen Hurts left Alabama.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Right So so so I just simply say this to you,
You've asked.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
Queen Lewers went to another the same type of program.
Jalen Hurts went to the same type of program where
expectations start from.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
The moment house type you expected to be for a championship.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Kyle McCord went to a guy who knew him, so
he knew Fran Brown and at that point in time,
somebody you trust and you know that that's the movie
made clearly it was the right.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
No, that's what I said.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
And you know, uh, coming out he's a five star quarterback,
played with Marvin Harrison Junie and so you know, the
physical talent was not the question.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
That's why he won the start and jub it's the
other stuff.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Are we wasting our time talking about the Cowboys drafting
on quarterbacks as the last one they drafted was Ben Denucci.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Dude, I don't know why.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
You know that was McCarthy's first year, right, I mean
McCarthy fell in love with the guy obviously, and he
he didn't try harder for anybody to have a career
in the NFL than and he could never played. He did. Danucci,
he could never play.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
He could never play.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
He had some tony romo to him, as I recall some.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
Upper but they were both they both front office per
six foot six to two.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
It was like the same guy who said Brandon Whedon
throws one of the most beautiful balls I've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Brandon Whiedton couldn't play.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
Great gab, but he couldn't play.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
How about how about Will Howard?
Speaker 3 (23:57):
No, no, no, I'm like Will Howard.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
I think he's somebody the Cowboys would consider at some
point in this draft.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
At a lot of you know, we'll have I've had
a lot, a lot of playmakers around. It was like
the Malabama quarterbacks all of a sudden, Hey man, you
know you got all these great player Hey.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Mari, go get it.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
That worked for everybody, that works, That.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Works for everybody.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
I don't know, I mean outside of the CD land ain't
gonna be much. Will Howard, what you're gonna do after
they double the CD? Where you're going? He's holding the
balls and get sacked.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
Now, we already drafted McMillan in the first round. We
got a running back in the second round.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
And look if Will Greer is is shot these guys
and then hey they roll Will Greer, I personally.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
If we'll I here's the deal. Will Greer can be
your guy. He can be your gay.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
But if you have to play in five games and he.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
Looked like bust to McFadden whoever that is, then you
go get your butt kicked for making him your gay.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
I I don't.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
There's no grace if you make bust to McFadden your gay.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
I would not be drafting a coord back and found
the cowboy ever had no point.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
This, not this, not this drap.
Speaker 12 (25:03):
No.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
I think they've got so many other needs at other
levels that I think Kyle mccorr is going to be
a day three guy. You start looking at day three,
you don't have a four. So then you try to
go in the fifth. You want to use a fifth
on a quarterback?
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Can I tell you this now?
Speaker 6 (25:21):
This is This is the Jacques Taylor philosophy built over
thirty something years of covinant cowboys, influenced by Larry Lacewell.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Okay, I don't care what you do after the fourth round.
They are darts.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Okay, Well, so if you.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
Want to take him in the fifth round, I say, hey, KNTLF,
i't take.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Him in the fifth round.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
You know what, Throw another body at linebacker, throw another body.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
After the first four picks. I don't care.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
That's to me. I'm just saying that's what i'd be
looking at, because.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
Looking for cats with traits, maybe we can hit them
and they do a pretty good job right there.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Sure, hitting on cats with traits.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
I just said, I just think they've got so many
that they are trying to fill and plug that I
in the fifth round. Please go you know what, Go
find me another bland. You do that before you try
to find me a guy that, even if you take him,
he's gonna be sitting behind back most likely if Dak
stays healthy.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
And becoming a bigger if as a years ago.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
But that's why is important. It's not in a different circumstance.
It wouldn't be that big a deal because he's like, oh,
he's played sixteen games four years a row.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
He good. But he did that for Jason Garrett. He
didn't do it very often.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
For Michael Right.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
So at some point you should have to assume I'm
probably gonna need a quarterback for three or four weeks.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
I'd say four games.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
How about Milroe is a developmental guy and a package
guy who could play in short gartage red zone.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
I haven't heard anything about mil Row in the last
couple of weeks, even though he ran great at Alabama,
I haven't heard anything.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
This is one of those two where thirty six touchdowns
in his career twenty rush touchdowns for quarterback.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
This is where you're This is where you're a head coach,
you know, and his.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
His vision, right, this is where what does he want
at that position?
Speaker 2 (27:09):
You know?
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Can they can they take Jalen mill Row and plug
him in the way the Eagles did a Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
I think that's what you're hoping he could become right
in time. Yeah, he is a Jalen Hurts type of quarterback.
And so that once again, this is about day three.
Talk about a Day three pick, and yes, you could
say throw darts out here, but I just think they've
got so many needs at different level.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Because we talked, we talked last week when you were gone,
what's the best position group on this team?
Speaker 2 (27:37):
And we all set special teams overwhelming.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
So linebackers they've got issues, and you've got a lot
of a lot of one year people that you've thrown
at different spots. But they long term, they need to
get some guys who are going to be under contract
for four years as they start to try to build
this thing up.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
Leah foul is a good player. The free agent they
just got from the Bears has seemed like he's been
a good player. You're hoping over Shawan comes back and
is the player he's vowed to be in the player
you saw before this most recent kN the injury, but
he has suffered an acl TEAAR two years in a row,
so you've got to be wary of that.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Maybe get them both out the way. He's ready to
go because he was.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
Yeah, but I mean the corner corner situation is one
that has to be addressed. I would think high in
this draft. That's gonna be a high problem, maybe even
a first round if the receivers are gone. I mean,
who do they take if the receivers are gone? What
position are you looking for? Are you looking for an edge,
best edge rusher, best corner? I think they need both
of those things in a big way.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
So when you say that to me, I immediately think four
to five the lines offensive and defensive.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
So you're trying to take the guard from Adam Missouri.
I ain't taking none while he would because here we
go again.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
We got three first round offensive linemen. Only team in
the league can't can't tank to coach.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
We got all these coaches they just hired.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
Y'all better developed some third and four fifth round picks
in them into serviceable players.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
You know, my first thoughts still always go to the
D line because I'm in a division where they're Saquon Barkley.
I'm in a division where Washington is going to try
to run the football and they've got they've got a
quarterback which makes play action passing.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
So to me, I'm still you you.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
Got to know they're going to come out out of
this draft with one of those backs. I mean, Robinson
just is not a reliable enough player, not an explosive
enough player, fumbles too much. So I got to think
in a deep draft with right now, the Commanders are
going to go make a priority pick at running back.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Yeah, so that's I'm still I'm still looking at how
the Cowboys, when they've been in the playoffs under in
the McCarthy are, it got put out by teams who
could run, and when they lost games against teams who
could run the football, they had not fixed that.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Also, Diggi Zua helped them retain a player.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
But but they're but their best teams in the dac
Era were teams that could run the football first sure,
and I think that, I mean, I think we all
get sense that's the way Schottenheimer wants to move this team.
That's direction he's headed, and so for that reason, maybe
drafting an offensive lineman and a back with the first
two picks makes sense. That's what Garrett did. He prioritized
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the offensive line and use a fourth overall pick on
a running back and convince the defensive staff that Zeke
Elliott is gonna be one of your best players too,
because he's gonna keep you off the field.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Yes, yes, you've said this before on the medium, Masha,
and I will I'm I'm agreeing with you from that
standpoint that at some point in time, get one side
of this ball better. But you definitely cannot keep running
out here the defensive game plan and you've been running
out here because I ain't worked in four years. If
you can run the ball on the Cowboys and feel
(30:39):
and you can wear them down, so yes, run. They
need a better running back. But sure the running back
room is better than last year, but it's still, in
my mind, not where it needs to be. So that'll
get addressed here.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
But they have to.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Figure I mean, what's Sakwon Barkley gonna do now that
he's comfortable.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
You know, that's a very interesting question. And I say
that from the sense of we've all seen runbacks fall
off a cliff at twenty eight. He's already twenty eight,
coming off a career high and carries. I loved him
last year. I hope he can do it, but I'm
curious to see whether he's well Adrian Peterson and Emmitt
(31:22):
Smith or whether he's la Damian Thomson.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
There's another factor in that equation, too, and that's Kellen
Moore's not the coordinator anymore.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
Howie Rosen was telling him what to do. Anyway, run
that ball, Joyce stick.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
So I think secon One is a great I mean,
it'll be fascinating to see what he does this year.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
I mean, they ran the ball more than any team
in football.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Last year, and he carried a lot of that long.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
And can he be possibly be better than he was?
That seems like a stretch, yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Because he was.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
He was treating it like college football last year. He
was going fifty.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
But then but then at this time last year, we're like, oh,
they lost Jason Kelcey on the offensive line. They're taking
a big hit there.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
But now they get a great offense.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
How he knows what he's doing over there, playing catch
up to Howie. When we come back here, on the
medium ash that wild trade you spoke about before the show,
that wild wild trade.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Which one.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
There's a couple of wild trades being speculated about out.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
This This one made a little bit more sense.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
This one has some legitimacy.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yeah, this one made this.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
This one involving the quarterback has knowledge.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
No.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
No, once again people throwing out names and not understanding
the salary cap implication.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
Those negotiations are going on right now as we speak.
I heard, I read it. I mean I believe everything
I read.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
And I lived in that town where they once. Somebody
once went on the air after the Browns lefton said
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers were coming to Cleveland, and it
never happened.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Maybe they played a road game.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Well, this is when they This is when they had
no tea, and the Buccaneers, of my knowledge, are still
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Okay, all right, let's let's do that.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
The Sports Illustrated trade proposal between the Patriots and the
Cowboy was entertained the masses here.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
I thought this was interesting.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
Most of these pull your voice got high.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
And don't pay any attention to it. But this was
a carry moment.
Speaker 6 (35:57):
This was the Patriots acquired Michael Parsons.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
I didn't suggest this.
Speaker 6 (36:02):
This is the people Patriots acquired Michael Parsons. The Cowboys
get the fourth pick, the thirty eighth pick, and a
one hundred and forty fourth pick in this draft. That's
a first round, second round, and fifth round this year,
a first round next year.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
And a third round in twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 6 (36:20):
And the reason I thought it was interesting is what
would you do if Dallas had the fourth pick, the
twelfth pick, the thirty eighth pick, the forty fourth pick,
and the seventy sixth pick, which is their own third
round pick. That's five of the top seventy six players
for the top forty four, two of.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
The top twelve.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
You could rebuild your team even though you're missing a superstar.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
It was gonna cost you an enormous amount of money.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
That's the other thing.
Speaker 6 (36:49):
Now, now they don't spend no money, So I don't
know if saving money helps.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
But you know, what would you do with that? Because
if you I mean, it's just it.
Speaker 6 (36:57):
Was interesting because you get to keep the twelve and
so for the top forty four you can fill all
those needs you want.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
So at four, potentially you could get a guy who
would help you in two critical aspects of your And.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
See that's not a crazy thing because you say.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
Travis Hunter could be a starting corner and or receiver, right,
but you still got to get a pass rusher.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Right, but maybe look you don't have one.
Speaker 6 (37:21):
Clearly, twelve you can grab whoever's whoever you want there,
the receiver or whatever you want.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
You got that.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
When's the last time the Cowboys moved a young player
of this consequence?
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Hersel?
Speaker 4 (37:39):
And see when you talk about, hey, what do you
do with all that? Jimmy Johnson ain't walking through that door.
Speaker 6 (37:46):
You don't have no, you don't have no. You don't
have no faith in Will. You don't believe in Will.
Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 4 (37:52):
If Will was making was able to make all the
decisions without any help and input. Yeah, but that ain't
had its works around here, laboratid. Jimmy went collaborating. Jimmy
was out there. I want this guy, I know this guy.
I recruited that guy. I mean Jimmy was operating from
a serious position of strength because he not only helped
(38:13):
invent the draft chart, but he knew so many of
the players that he was taking back then that he
had an industry knowledge staft too right, that they had
either recruited them or somehow they they might against them. Right,
they knew what they were getting. So to me, if
you when you talk about doing things like this, and
most times when you see people.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
With the Cowboys, Shane Niver's new staff, several guys just
out of the college game. See see they are somewhat
connected and in real conferences.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Big twelve quarterback went in Super Bowl last two years.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Yeah, he's really sec quarterback who went to the Big toil.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
The wide receiver coach came from Oregon, which is the
Big ten I believe.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Okay, throwing it out there for you, juat.
Speaker 5 (39:01):
Would you trade Michael Parsons for that? To Michah Parsons
and two hundred million dollars.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
You don't have to pay no, no, how mean, how
many stars were trying to get rid of in the city.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
We're not. We're not bringing the mavericks dirty laundry over here.
I think you'd have to think about it.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
If it was on the table, you'd have to they're
getting Tom Brady and Wes Welker, you'd have to say
the deal.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Dang. Uh, you'd have a real young team.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
But I mean, how are you going to find a
pass rusher who's anywhere near as good as he is?
Like unless Carter is there?
Speaker 6 (39:37):
But Carter, Carter probably would not be there. Uh, And
you could And the problem with that trade is you
could get hosed.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Meaning if.
Speaker 6 (39:49):
If cam Wood went first, Carter went second in the
Giants Tate Travis Hunter, You're.
Speaker 5 (39:56):
Like, who's the best player on your board? Now?
Speaker 3 (39:59):
Shoud door Sanders. We don't need that guy. And now
now now you're like, uh, can I flip.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
It the other way? Why would the Patriots do this?
We're not being like that.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Now we play fair?
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Can I play the Mickey Spagnola here?
Speaker 5 (40:11):
Have you seen how bad? I mean they were? I
think they were finished. Only Atlanta had fewer sacks than
the Patriots last year young and they have committed an
enormous amount of money and free agency to defensive linemen.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
Hey, Robert Craft wants to win, Mike Rabel, Mike Rabel
wants to win.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
Big defensive orientation lie.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Back Ohio states big tip, big tip.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
A lot to get.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
That's a lot to coach JJ Watt. And there's a
value of a.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Password that is a lot. That's that's a lot to
give up, a lot to give up.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
That's what I don't think I would say the Patriots
would not give up all that.
Speaker 6 (40:42):
I don't think they worse. No, they'd have to get
something back, you know, something big.
Speaker 5 (40:47):
But I just, I just and we have to we
have to mention the soak and opportunity. Time to mention
that sports illustrated now isn't what it was thirty years
ago when we would run out what it was, but
especially not what it was thirty years ago. No, I
z throwing out the trader Peter King putting this trade
package together.
Speaker 6 (41:06):
No it ain't no somebody else, this is this is
I just once again, I think to myself, the Patriots
has a lot to give up, and and okay, you're
talking about giving up that thank you, that was the
next portion.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
Normally you don't give up that much. And nobody the
way we got to sit around here and sign a guy.
It's like I said years ago when when the Colts
traded Marshall Falk, they got a two and a five,
because it's like the reason why is because back then
he wanted this big fat contract. So it's like a
baseball trade. You're you're you're not gonna get everything here.
If I got to pay him a lot of money,
(41:41):
I'm gonna give you a lot, give you less picks,
so you know it normally. See, see the problem is people,
I've been sitting around there looking at the basketball trades
fleece team, but no, everybody ain't like that.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
I ain't like that.
Speaker 5 (41:56):
So so we're saying the Patriots would never offer this much,
and you and I still would not take it.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
I would not because look, it's like, what did the
Rams do with all those picks they got.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
From the Golts? Nothing for Eric Diggers. I mean, it's
it's rare, is it? People make these big old deals
and get all these picks.
Speaker 5 (42:19):
Rare? Is it?
Speaker 4 (42:20):
They do what Jimmy did with herschel Walker. It is
so rare, it is hard. I remember when the Patriot
now the Patriots, but when Minnesota move off Randy Moss
and they took the kid out of South Carolina, Troy
Williamson was his name.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
No, Randy wasn't even a good starter, never made a prob.
But nothing it is. It is hard to replace bigtime talents.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Why she had never traded Luca.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Yeah, man, this is true, This is true. So I
just one. I don't think the Patriots do it. It's
way too much to give up.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
And you're gonna have to give a guy over forty
million dollars a year.
Speaker 5 (42:57):
They think they can convince Nico to do it, they're
calling the wrong number in Dallas.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
Man putting Davis did play the other day, they won
in the night next night off, Yeah, didn't play a man, dude,
what a great job in the NBA back to back. Yeah,
I'm not painting the same, but I'm not playing it
next night.
Speaker 5 (43:21):
But you gotta respect that he came back and played
at all, because it sounded like he wasn't going to.
Speaker 4 (43:28):
I think at some point in time somebody said, look,
if we do get somebody statistic, if we do if
we missed the playoffs, we got this one ping pong
ball that's got a chance of doing zero for us.
You might as well just go ahead, getting to play
in and see what happens. You'll get, you'll get, you'll
be better off there. When he plays, he's good. Anthony
(43:54):
Davis is good. It's just that play thing. It's problem.
It's problem, the big problem. But when he has played
on the court aisle.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
He's cool.
Speaker 4 (44:06):
Yeah. That's the problem though. And and look it's it's
tough opening days tomorrow. You going Rangers red?
Speaker 3 (44:14):
Uh No, go, sir.
Speaker 5 (44:16):
I'm a Braves soon. I'll go see the Braves from
they're here in July.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
Ravees Man. I grew up on Braves baseball. I remember
when Dale Murphy was a catcher.
Speaker 5 (44:25):
I remember when Dale Murphy was a catcher and he
threw it in the center field and his father said, son,
they'd have been trying to steal center field. You'd had him.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Back when Bobby Cox was there the first time.
Speaker 4 (44:37):
Yeah, and they had Pascual Prez, Bob Horner, Raphael or Marez,
Glenn Hubbard, and.
Speaker 5 (44:43):
I go back to Paul Casanova, Taco Bell, Cleat Boyer,
Mike Lum, Hank Aaron, Dusty Baker, Ralph Carr, Phil Nicro
Buzz Capra.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
I go back to the Big Red Machine at the
mid seven and Joe Morgan and Dave.
Speaker 6 (44:59):
Concepcion Foster's and Dan Drees in at first base for
a little while, and roleyst Eastwood coming out the bullpen
and Tom.
Speaker 5 (45:06):
Dan Cesar Geronimo, one of the great Houston Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
That was the other Caesar in Houston.
Speaker 4 (45:15):
Uh about, Yeah, I know who you're talking about, but
he's right yeah in Cincinnati.
Speaker 6 (45:21):
Yeah, Ken Griffy on the other side, and George Foster
and left. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking about. Joe Posnansky's book,
The Big Red Machine. If you have not read it
in it's a fantastic That's everything. I did that because
my dad lived in Cincinnati when I was a when
I was a kid, so we used to go up
there every summer. It's all about the Big Red Machine
and the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
You know what, man braids were.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
Just an afterthought.
Speaker 6 (45:44):
Although I was listening to night Pete Rose's forty four
game hitting streak ended against the Braves.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
Good stuff.
Speaker 5 (45:51):
It was on the mountain.
Speaker 6 (45:52):
I remember his name, but I can't remember his name.
Like once you tell me, I'll be like, oh yeah,
that guy.
Speaker 5 (45:57):
Craig and Big Birchery Craig.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
I remember remember thirty seven?
Speaker 5 (46:01):
Yeah, yeah, from Texas, Texas kid.
Speaker 6 (46:04):
Now, I remembered it as soon as you said I
remembered it, but I remember the name, but I couldn't remember.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
And today's kids don't know darn thing about baseball because
they don't want.
Speaker 3 (46:11):
This was a beautiful organic conversation right here.
Speaker 4 (46:14):
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Josh Jazz. Everybody's a part of right here. Dallas Cowboys
dot Com. Thank you for checking out the media mash.
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