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Speaker 1 (00:02):
The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
This is Media Match, a roundtable of Cowboys insiders trumping
wisdom and offering sizzling.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Takes on the current state of your Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Now your host Newie Scrugs.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Media mash time on a Thursday.

Speaker 4 (00:27):
Everybody from the Star in Frisco getting ready for the
Dallas Cowboys because Chicago Bears in Chicago three twenty five
Oh Fox TV. Jean Jacques Taylor, the author Hall of
Famer Edwarder is here. The greatest writer ever. Four Star
Telegram beat writer Nick.

Speaker 5 (00:41):
Heres it makes feel facetious. No, no, that seems sincere
to me. I'm easily the fourth best at this table.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
So no, no, no, we.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
I think you do an outstanding job.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
Yes, yes, you do it different then I like that.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (00:54):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah, you do you do it. It's good. I like
it takes. I'm reading.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
It's kind of like Bob Stirmish. I'll take a lot
of breakdowns that normal beat writers don't pursue or can't off.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yes, Nick, find your niche.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
Yeah, all three of you guys are beat writers something
that I never could do. I couldn't deal with one
thing all the time, like you guys, that's that's your
whole world around a team like that. I love being
a sportscaster. I could dip in when I want and
dip by back, come on in, hey guys, and then
they let's.

Speaker 5 (01:29):
Go iron skill it on Saturday.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
I've never had you heard you had a strong opinion
on anything but football.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Though you know what. Football is my favorite. You know
it's my favorite.

Speaker 5 (01:37):
I wouldn't guess that. I would have guess basketball.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
To be honest, I always tell people it's where where
you're at. We'll dictate a lot of what you I
always grew up a cowboy fan, but when I was
when I lived in North Carolina, it was a it
was a lot of basketball because that's what it was
a lot about.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Belichick out there made it a football town.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
I was there for that. I did cover Bill in Cleveland.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
When I was in Cleveland, it was about all about football,
though the Indians were winning, and then back in ninety
five it was the first World Series. And then when
in Los Angeles, it was a basketball town as great
as the Dodgers, where it was a basketball town, so
you kind of morph yourself there. The internship I got
to spend in Saint Louis, it was all baseball. Sow
where you live will dictate a lot, and if you
live here in this town, clearly.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
It's football, it's football. So all good there.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
So Matt Ibraflus fired by the Bears' head coach back
here at the Dallas Cowboys, and he gave you what.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Today, Absolutely nothing, absolutely zero insight into how he truly
feels on a personal level about going back to the
franchise that made him the only coach and there are
one hundred and five year history to be fired in season.

Speaker 5 (02:52):
Yeah, saying nothing almost says everything everything. It really does
in that instance, specifically too.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Because after the game, he's gonna be crying if they
when they gonna give him a game.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
But Dak even said that today, like everybody knows how
meaningful it is to him, but he won't admit to it.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
He's locked in focused. Yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever do what
was the catchphrase?

Speaker 4 (03:15):
Because some people if when you give nothing, there's usually
a catchphrase with it.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
You know.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
I cherished those times? That was what it like, three
four times I cherished the times I had there.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Oh well, Michael Jackson, remember the time? Was that a
tad especially he come up there with himself. I cherished
those moments, hold on to the memories.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Cherish by time with Caleb Williams.

Speaker 5 (03:39):
My favorite time was on the FBI came raiding Hollis Hall.
That was my favorite time personally. Remember that like three
weeks before he got fired last year, geez.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Or the press conference they made the guy do the
press conference and then they yeah, man.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Oh the press conference after they blew the Thanksgiving Day
game against the Lions. Who oh, by the way, the
guy who's coaching against this we took his job right.
He's gone up against this guy head to head in
that division, Ben Johnson, the first time head coach. That's
who's gonna he'sna be called plays against him for the
first time since he got fired in Chicago.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
But it don't mean nothing. He just cherish his still
time is okay, man, just yes, cherish the memories.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
But I'll say that, and this is just just having
done this long enough, I get it.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
I get it because.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
Once he starts answering one question, you guys are skilled
enough to know somebody may just just just get the
right thing out there. And now now you're now you're talking.
Now you're saying something.

Speaker 5 (04:35):
We're talking about Clarence like that.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Claire says, what he'll do it with tendons.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
But that's you know, you guys have broken people like
that before.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
You know the next thing, you know, they got them.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
But I mean, like even yet, even yesterday's Shody gave
it credibility. Right, Yes, he said it was gonna matter
on a personal level to him to win this game,
and he said, we had him in the with the
offensive staff going over their defensive personnel because he's just
coached all these guys, he knows them, which obviously happens
every time there's any kind of cross shore like this.

(05:08):
But uh yeah, I mean it might not be the
biggest thing in the world to him, but you can't
tell me it won't feel different to beat the Bears
in Chicago after what he experienced there after feeling like
the franchise was unfair to him to make him the
only guy they've ever fired. They've had bad coaches before,
they'd never always let him finish the season, and.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
They ain't like they had their ownership change. That Thanksgiving
Day game was that was. That was well.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
The one before that was bad too. Remember the Commander's
game where the guys waving to the crab, mocking the
crowd while they're getting a ball tossed over their heads for.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
I mean, you're right, you're right. Those those two well.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
They never won another game after that. They were like
four and two. I think when they went to Washington,
and they should have won that game. They should have
been five and two, and instead Washington takes off. Chicago
never wins another game. That's how pivotal one game can be.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
Was and the way it is, and it's the way
it ended.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
And then of course now you know he's jayde Daniels,
mister magic Man, and he went on to win Rookie
of the Year.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
It was bad.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
It was bad in just the whole you know, we
all have friends who are from Chicago. It was just,
you know that kind of thing I fam in Chicago.
They were my folks was mad. Okay, they wanted him
gone mad.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
And I almost feel like the gentleman, hey run this
guy and save ourselves.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Well and maybe maybe he feels like he has to
play it down because his defense is coming off such
an atrocious performance like if they were shutting people down,
if they were the eighty five Bears, then maybe he'd
feel a little different going in there. But they just
had a horrific game against the Giants. If they barely
won at home, where their season would be in tatters already.

Speaker 4 (06:45):
He's not gonna give you the robe running special, no, no,
but he never really does.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
He's not really an effusive guy. That's not been his deal.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
So what are you gonna write, you, two gentlemen.

Speaker 5 (06:56):
Right man? That he cherishes those moments.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
I literally have been thinking all week about writing this
column for wfa's website, doing one column a week, and
this was going to be And I decided a long ago,
and I couldn't wait to do it. I've been accumulating information,
all these great facts, and I spent an hour up
there after their press conference trying to find one quote
I could put the peace on. And I decided I'll
walk away and go back after the podcast and try

(07:22):
and put something together.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Same approach, cool in the gang, cherish the moments, and
that's that's that's that's what you can do. But it's
it's I get.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
It, you know, I, And I don't know how you
guys feel, but the coaches who do a whole lot
of talking it, you don't have to go out there
and play.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
I think that's unfair.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
You know, he's not Buddy Ryan or Son you Son, Rob.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Rob left here. I'll get a job in fifteen minutes,
so I can I can see that.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
I also think that obviously he's you know, been a
subject to controversy here because of how poorly they played
in Week two against the Giants. And I mean Russell
Wilson's had two hundred and one starts in his you know,
super Bowl winning career, and he's never thrown for more
yards than he did against them the other day at
four point fifty. But I think people overlook the hardship

(08:14):
that he inherited here, like having three different defensive coordinators
in three years and being the last of those guys, Like,
you're not going to have the personnel that you want
to play your system right. Then you couple that with oh,
a week before the season or trade Micah Parsons, the
guy who was supposed to, you know, be the centerpiece
of my entire.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
He was unanimously on board with that tree.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Oh you think so? Oh yeah, because if Jerry said
the whole front office in football staff. He might not
gett a vote, is my guess you had, because what
did he say today when you say pass Rusher, I'm
all in, I'm I'm yes. So you think when they
went to him, if he wanted Gebion Clowney, you think
he didn't want Michaeh.

Speaker 5 (08:53):
Parsons.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
I'll just tell you what Donus.

Speaker 5 (08:56):
Is Kenny Clark fans and so the division.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yeah, here they are like incorporating Kenny Clark into the defense.
Now Jadeveon Clowney into the defense. I mean, your offense
ought to be carrying the football team in that situation.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
How much do you think Flus is figuring out how
to use the pieces that he has.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Well, it's got to be some of it because they
didn't play in a preseason. I mean, you can only
do so much on a practice. See, you can only
do so many walk through At some point, you guys,
see how guys react under fire, See what guys can
do best, because you always have a thought of what
they can do. But until they actually get out there
and start playing, you're not one hundred percent sure.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Well, when you have Parsinger thinking I'm not gonna have
the blitz to get pressure right, and then he didn't
have digs all off season, and he's still kind of
working him back into a full time role. And while
he's doing that, oh, now Deron blands out. So he's
playing with a bunch of guys who are not starting
caliber players in this league. Like you have two ninety
million dollar corners and neither one of them is playing

(09:54):
the full complement of downs and the pass rushers up
in Green Bay turning that franchise around.

Speaker 5 (10:00):
When they drafted and acquired most of this defense, it
was under Dan Quinn and they ran more man coverage
than any team in the NFL. Jump ahead two years
and now this zone coverage scheme has been what is it,
seventy seven of seventy nine dropbacks through the first two
weeks that they've played zone. It's first by a mile.
And so you have a lot of guys that were
drafted to be man man coverage. Personnel wise that was

(10:21):
drafted to be man guys. You jump ahead two years
and now these guys are being asked to do something
completely different. And you look at a guy like Donovan Wilson,
it's not helping him when he's the one high safety
on fourth and four and Windale Robinson's streaking down to
the end zone, or in another instance when Molie Neighbors
in the first half had the long touchdown where Trayvon
Diggs gave him too much cushion, Donovan Wilson wasn't there
to be able to help out because that's not what

(10:41):
they've played. That's not what they've been accustomed to. Even
though you should have safeties that should be able to
cover half the field, but these two do not.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Isn't it the coaches job to put the players in
the scheme where they can succeed or put them in
position exactly it's shot. And I understand that I ain't
got the owners that I want, so I can't really
do what I want to do until I get those guys.

Speaker 5 (11:02):
Yeah, and Shan Himer mentioned in his introductory press conference,
and he's mentioned it multiple times, like we are not
going to ask these guys to do something that is
not to their strengths. I can't tell that is exactly
what's happening on defense. I mean, no offense, I'll give
him credit, he's right there, but on defense that is
not as what that is basic. Yeah, I mean it
is it's so simple. I mean I'm not even running
buzz coverages. I mean there's nothing complex to it. I
mean it is simple, Cover four, Cover three, You'll have

(11:25):
the occasional cover two.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
Man, well, isn't the whole That's it philosophy of playing
zone to prevent the big play exactly, and that's give
up seven big plays because you have.

Speaker 5 (11:34):
Two really bad safeties. You have one really bad and
one bad safety.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
I mean, it reminds me, and they can remember this
because we're that old new we can too. Larry Bryn,
you know, he's here playing a little man in his
own stuff. He goes to the Raiders, Hey, we need
you to bump and run press. He's gone in like
two years because that ain't what he doing. That's literally
not what he does. Not the Hazer micing.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
Well when so. I think it might have been Unick
who asked Eber today about all the zone coverages, and
he said so, he made some quick reference to the
personnel you have available.

Speaker 5 (12:05):
He also said it depends on the matchup too, and
I was like, well, if that's the case, then like
when you're going up against the Chicago offense on Sunday,
there better be some man coverage incorporated, because you have
a lot of young receivers that I don't think could
handle the physicality of you know, a Trayvon Dix press
or a kayr Elan press because those guys are just
generally bigger. You know, you look at you look at
DJ Moore. I think that's a guy that they could
overpower physically if they put a hand on him. But

(12:28):
you know, we'll see I get's a lot of lip
service being involved there. This team. You're still going to
see them run more zone covers than anybody in the league.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
So so they get what they get.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
When does eberflu say, okay, I need to make these
changes because we talked about not playing guys in the preseason.
So when is it you say, okay, this is what
I've got and is it three game when do you make.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
Well, that's that It was like three games for Mike Nolan,
right mcfore McCarthy said we're we've got to reduce the
playbook here on defense like it was early in the year,
and didn't save him anyway. They still had one of
the worst seasons in defensive Cowboys history and he got
fired after one year. But I would I would think
they would change starting this week.

Speaker 5 (13:12):
When's the bye week, because that's what's happened the last
two years.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
That week is too far down.

Speaker 5 (13:16):
Yeah it is, it is.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
Yeah, yeah, So I gotta win these games now. As
we've talked about with our schedule.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
You got Chicago and then the next week a little different.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Like Giants were arguably the winning the most winnable game
on their whole schedule, and they almost blew.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
It, but they didn't.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
That counts the same for this team right now, that's
big time. They didn't. Yes, Chicago must win because the
Packers are coming to town the next week and that
game is going to be on NBC Sunday Night Football,
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Speaker 5 (16:22):
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Speaker 2 (16:24):
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Speaker 3 (16:40):
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Speaker 4 (16:47):
It's not in there, Chris says, because I took the read. Anyway,
we'll get that read here. Here's something that I looked
at talking about the Bears and Cowboys issue numbers. Here,
penalties committed the Bear's third most twenty you got the
Cowboys is sixteen, tied for tenth. And then penalty yards
the Bears with one hundred and seventy seven third most.
The Cowboys are six most with one forty eight. Here,

(17:09):
the penalties are killing these teams, and this is something
I look at, along with the turnover margin, where the
Cowboys aren't good and neither are the Bears. They've got
to figure out how to make these things a plus
for them. On Sunday, in my opinion, Bears tied for
twenty fifth and turnover margin the Cowboys are tied for
twenty second.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
If you don't play coverage and you don't pressure the quarterback,
you're not gonna get a lot of takeaways.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Nope.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
And if you're playing from behind, you ain't gonna get
a lot of takeaways because everybody's conservative.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
Yeah, except for Russell Wilson.

Speaker 5 (17:41):
Yes, can I oud of step to those penalties?

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Short man?

Speaker 5 (17:43):
The Bears offense ranks number one in the NFL through
two weeks in offensive penalties per game, and co ranks
for number one and pre snap penalty.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
I was gonna say most of those pre snap yep,
got it. Lack of focused concentration. That's why you're not
having championship practice.

Speaker 5 (17:56):
I think it's why you're not having championship badreas either.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
So stay there, Stay there. I was gonna say this
for not but you. You you walked into it.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Let's go right there.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
Ben Johnson, the head coach of the Bears, talked about
how they're not they're not practicing at at any championship level.
And I'm hearing the press comfas and immediately I come
to my mind. The first thing because of mine is
Jimmy Johnson. Who who you know? Ed you covered Jimmy
and Jimmy was a master at talking to the media.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
He was a master.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
His real audience was a locker room.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yes, and and and he knew how to work. You know.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
He was the head coach North Was when they were
Norph was called the plays want step was called the Deepense.
It was Butchering. He ran the football team. And I'm
sitting there, I'm like, Ben Johnson, You're not a coordinator.
That's what you're not. You're the head coach. If they're
not practicing, right, Bron, that's on you. This is what
you're paid to do.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
I was the question, bro. Me is always giving an
example of that? I mean, because what does that mean?
Because it's not like they're out there lollygag, you know,
like my kids used to do, you know, picking Danna lines,
doing practice.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
So when it's not effort, what does that look like?
Was that Me says, you brought it up?

Speaker 5 (19:04):
You know who said that last Mike McCarthy last year
Week three, details and practices we're not being adhered to.
That was the That was the famous question where he
asked fella was being dramatic.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Broadcaster Mike Wow, Hello broadcast Green Bay, Mike.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
So the thing about that, and I was just wanting
to address that. Is he's responsible for what he accepts
in terms of thank you, practice effort. So is it
truly not to his standard or is he trying to
get more? Is he trying to put these guys on
notice and get a better performance out of them through
the weekend again on Sunday? So are they going to

(19:40):
play lights out or to the best of their ability
in a way that we haven't seen yet this season
on Sunday against the Cowboys because he got called they
all got called out.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Or is he trying to say whatever happens Sunday is
not my fault because I coached them. Well, but they're
not putting it forth y.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
Efort, Well, that's on you. I can be here. That's
like in the NFL. You get what you what. You
tolerate this, This is true.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
You get that at home too. You got badass keys.

Speaker 5 (20:07):
Granted this is not the team he's built. I think
that's probably the one, but.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Then you gotta get rid of them, gut it. I mean,
you go ahead of Michael Everingly, we can say that,
but you know, here was a guy in demand.

Speaker 4 (20:17):
You you know you wanted fair point thank you. Last
two years people wanted to hire. You said, nah, let
me come right here. So this this is it. But ultimately,
wherever you go, you're the head coach, and when you
say stuff like this is just my mond.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
You're not a play caller anymore. Man, You're not. This
isn't on Dan Campbell. This is you.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
This is what comes with the meal, and if they're
not practicing to the standard, that's on you and you
have to fix it. So the stand up in front
of the media says that it's almost like you're pointing.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
The favorite dighting yourself.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yeah, you're pointing the fingers in the room.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
But really all you're doing is making yourself look look
bad here, because that, to me is like and granted,
I go back to what Buck Showalter told me one
time and say, hey, you know, your first time doing this,
you gonna step on yourself a little bit.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
And I think been stepped on himself.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
There, and hopefully he's smart enough to figure out to
clean that thing up, because that's just that, that just
that was.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
A bad look.

Speaker 5 (21:07):
I shot he stepped on himself.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
No, not to you know what, for me? For me, no,
I would say no what anybody else.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
With anything he said?

Speaker 4 (21:16):
He said, dude, I think there's a lot of like
the Ben Johnson moment, did he shot shot? He had
a Ben Johnson one where he's like, hey, we got
bad practice habits, and like it's it's you know, like, dude,
you're that coach.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
If only don't think we'll fix that, right right, you
could fix I don't think there's been any case to
this point where he's looked foolish in saying something as
a first time head coach.

Speaker 5 (21:38):
Actually give him a lot of credit for how he
handled the Mica situation. Every day he got questions about
it during training camp every day, very consistent with how
he was approached with it.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
I'll say this, and I think it was borderline.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
He didn't go all the way across the line when
he said we need more physical practices, but we did
it good for two for two sessions and so now
we're good.

Speaker 4 (21:59):
Maybe it's because I asked Will look at Mike, And
there were just so many times where I thought Mike
McCarthy was just like, dude, you're not in Green Bay.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
What do you mean? Where he didn't understand.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
The media that you're in the big room, right, or
the times poor Campbell, you know, like the one time
we were San Antonio swimming with dolphins at that when
he was singing in a cage, would you was Grand
Central Station.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
I'm sorry, wait wait wait, well I'm gonna say wait wait,
I camp wait. When we were in San Antonio and
we're asking Wade about a potential signing, and Wade, well,
we'll know.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
We're gonna do. Guys like Jerry already said this is
what's gonna happen. Okay, whatever Jerry said.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
That's kind of what happened. Was shy beyond Clowney after
the game the other day, Hey, Jerry just signed today
on Clowney during the game. Or I guess the deal
was done before, but Jerry announced it to us, and
he hadn't told the coaches apparently that it was in
his mind, had done deal.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
And one time they're talking and it might mccarth the
little says, I don't know why I'm here. It was
and it was a draft covers and everybody's asking Jerry,
Steve and Mike is just saying.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
I don't know why I'm here. Yeah, we get it.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
You knew that were you allowed to get the job.
He watched every game, watched his words, not mine here
every game. He put his stuff out there like that.

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Speaker 2 (26:24):
Hey man, do what the game asked you to do?
Is Ron Washington once said? There? Okay?

Speaker 4 (26:30):
Cavante Turpin spoke in the locker room today. Turp was
in the media tent at the Giants game. Did not
return a medical. A lot of folks were, what what what?

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Didn't finish the game?

Speaker 2 (26:42):
No, yeah, it's number nine.

Speaker 5 (26:44):
Should we He's good to go? And practice support came out.
He practiced fully today. In fact, the only player that
did not practice fully was Deron Bland, who again is
still not expected to play. He's a long putt, very
long putt now. It's like a long put at St.
Andrews right now.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
But Turpin said it was not so much to neck
injury as it was more shoulder trapezoid, and he feels
fine about playing.

Speaker 5 (27:06):
Trapezius. I said trapezoid yesterday and I got beat over
the head with it. So no trapezius. I'm not a doctor.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
The doctors are calling in. Huh.

Speaker 5 (27:14):
They are so trup with the shape. And I was like, yeah,
I know that.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
It's been so much surprising how much he's been involved offensively.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Well, see it is.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
I think that's a good thing, though, Yeah, I think
he's one of your more explosive players.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
They running it to him, they're throwing it to him.
That's a good thing. See, I'm not and this is
just I'm a big believer that you get these guys sometimes.
Just look at the tape they did in college.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
You'll Brandon used to tell me, he's like, you know,
if they if they're doing it here, then you know
you want to see if they can do with it.
Let it translate. And there were times that watched a
lot of his games, like this guy can help you
win games. And I don't think Mike used him enough.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
You don't have enough explosive players on offense not to
use this guy more than one or two times a game.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Right, right, And you get him in space, so you
give him opportunities to get in space. Quit throwing his
deep balled him at five eight and let him see
what he could do.

Speaker 5 (28:04):
And it's not necessarily a surprise too, when he signed
that six million dollar price tag per year over the offseason.
So you're not doing that just for a kick returner.

Speaker 9 (28:10):
No.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
I like the fact they run it.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
They give him, they let him run a little bit.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
But they've eliminated all the CD running plays so far? Right,
has he had one run?

Speaker 5 (28:19):
He has not had a design run. I think he
had one jet sweep against Philly, but he has not
had like a out of the backfield, doesn't.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
It's coming, man, it's only been two weeks. I'm okay.
I'm okay with the guy's got two one hundred yard
games there.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
I mean, I don't play fantasy football anymore, but I
imagine you're pretty good with what ceed has done. And
not to mention, what about the catches that he could
have made in Philadelphia. I mean, he's thig shot. He
so far shot. He's doing a good job here. So
let me ask this question. Who's the offensive player that
surprised you so far? Two games in for the Cowboys?

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (28:48):
The running back the fake Tony Door said, although he
had I'm gonna get over it at some point.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Man, I didn't steal his gathers. I mean that was
my guy.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
I thought you were going with Dayton.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
No, I don't like him. Yes, this is this is
a second straight pocket.

Speaker 5 (29:02):
This is some foolery right here. This is some under
the table deal. He swindled.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
Some trick plays pulling air.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
It was an r P O dirty work. I didn't
expect him to go to me first. Normally goes to
Nick first. Uh.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
You know, but I like the running back. I have
very little faith in running back. And he's played well.
He's been physical to run through tackles. He had a
couple of plays I noticed where he turned it up
and got the first down.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Showed a little breakaway ability.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
He did not get pulled down from behind by defensive
line and turn linebacker on any of his runs of
more than twenty yards, showing a little explosiveness, and that
makes the play action pass a little more effective. Now
I left some meat on the bone for you.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
Oh so kind if I want to stay with you,
well here was my original pis for this category. Yes,
I am going to stay with it. See, I'm going
to be true to my opinion.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
It's a LB, it's a lob go donkey.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
I mean, for Shottheimer to stand up up there and
say he's as physical a runner as there is in
the league, was in the game the right way, a
guy who had Marshawn Lynch. I mean, let's not forget that.
The fact that they already four rushing touchdowns and that
they can now run the ball in from the five. Yes,
that's a huge development for this offense in my opinion.
And this was a guy who you know, the Broncos

(30:18):
changed out their entire running back room because Sean Payton
didn't think they could effectively run the ball the way
he wanted to. They thought Javonte Williams was a terrific
third down back, but that was it. They did not
see him as a three down player.

Speaker 4 (30:31):
Yes, a lot of what I watched Yavonte when he
was playing, when he played well in college, this is
what you're seeing. And I remember sitting down with the
a training camp, said how much are you, in your opinion,
back to what you were able to do with Chapel Hill,
And basically was because of health because he had a
really good year in Denver first and then injury. Scotson
was like, I'm fine and towards acl yeah, it's so

(30:52):
so far we're seeing he's fine, he's fine, and he's
good run.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
They told u Zeke was fine when they didn't show
him to us in camp last year, so there wasn't
a lot of credibility when they were saying, hey, don't
worry about the running game. This guy's gonna be fine. No,
he's been fine, he's been really good.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
I never bought all right, Nick.

Speaker 5 (31:06):
Yeah, surprise seek behind the curtain. We all said Javonte
in the break, but I thought as Jacques was gonna
go with Tyler guy and that wouldn't be mine. Mine
is actually a Brian Schottenheimer as a play caller. I
didn't expect as much creativity as we've seen through the
first two weeks. They're utilizing motion top ten in the
NFL right now. The aggressiveness on short yardage situations too,

(31:26):
is very interesting to me, just because you know, in
the Mike McCarthy system and even before, I feel like
for the last decade and a half and shortyard situations
hand the ball off for quick passes. You know, they
are trying to just pick up the first down then
figure it out from there. And I remember asking McCarthy
about that a couple of times last year, like, hey,
you had a second and two from the forty five,
why not take a shot here? And it's like, we'd
rather eat the first down. That's that's not what Schottenheimer's doing.

(31:46):
You see him on third into throwing the ball downfield
and trying to take advantage of those situations, So the
aggressiveness and short yardage situations, the motion integration, creativity and
that that pairs with the offensive line and what Clayton
at has been able to do. But overall the play calling,
I give Schottenheimer a surprising positive grade. Not that I
didn't think it would be better, not that I thought

(32:09):
it wouldn't be better than McCarthy. I just didn't think
it would be this much creativity we've seen in already
two weeks.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Tyler got left tackle. I was worried.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
Okay, basically missed a lot of training camp last year.
Was not what the Cowboys were hoping for, and and
towards the end they were they were splitting time with
him as McCarthy was trying to save his job, and
I was worried. Game one, I was like, man, this
could be a long night for this young man. And
he performed admirably against the Eagles and.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
And showed fight and showed improvement.

Speaker 4 (32:40):
And so for me, yeah, because you're not gonna win,
and you're not gonna win this league if your left
tackle is getting beat on the rag and then what
about if your right tackles is getting beat You're not
gonna win your left tackles getting beat on the rag
and if your left tackle along with the hot, newly
newly paid Tyler s you got the left side that

(33:00):
you can count on.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
All right, and we've seen what happened.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
I think they've got an interior that they can count.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
On and the rookie. The rookie has done a good
job so far. The rookie's done a good job. And
I mean he's supposed to go back.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
Yeah, I go back to Ed's podcast when you got
Bill O'Brien on right out of the gate after he
was drafted about what to expect and so so far
what what.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
He talked about, we've seen he's a good player.

Speaker 4 (33:24):
But that left tackle position was interesting because the Cowboys
did tell us, hey, you know what, we know it's
gonna take some time to develop. They did say that
when they drafted him. It just looked it gonn possibly
take a little bit longer and maybe forever. Well you didn't, okay,
it was he gonna go Massie style or was he
gonna do this? And he's decided to go do this
instead of Masie style where it's like, brother, what are

(33:45):
we doing here? Tyler Goydon looks like he can play
this position, uh for this year, and he might be
on his way to get a second guntract.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
I ain't going that fight at the two games.

Speaker 5 (33:59):
Man.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Hey, hey, hey, I said, looks, looks, looks, I A'm
going there.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
They have played too good defensive lines. So hey man,
I agree with what you're saying. Too early here, let's
not get let's not get the annoying thing oil out.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Just yeah, what did you tell us about trust? Proof
of consistence? Thank you? You're right, you're right, thank you. Fine.

Speaker 4 (34:18):
I jumped my fine, I jumped my love. You appreciate
I jumped my skis I agree?

Speaker 3 (34:22):
It's Chevante Williams.

Speaker 5 (34:23):
Yes, first off, yes, first off.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Yes, you went too far. That's okay.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
We appreciate your willing just to be different.

Speaker 5 (34:32):
Well, too much dip on this chip?

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Yeah, man, well too much might have been a little
bit my little hot sauce on there.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
But you know, I want to believe in this young man. Okay,
that's fine.

Speaker 5 (34:43):
I think you guys have the traits. He has the traits,
he has the physical traits. I I think he will
get a second contract. I don't think he's proved it yet, though, I.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Like the fact he threw a punch at the dude
the other day. Now he didn't get caught with a penalty,
and like the guy from the Giant, but he did
the same thing.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
He threw the hand slapping. I liked that he got
the fine though, Okay, that's cool.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
Who paid it?

Speaker 2 (35:03):
I would have paid that. I would hope number four
paid that. Yeah, I'd be like, keep it up, young fellow.

Speaker 4 (35:07):
I would hope the man who's made sixty million I'm
covering all those right, found it in his hard to
say yes, thank you for saving me. Here, good stuff.
This is fun as always. By the way, Bill's hosting
Miami the night.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Who you got?

Speaker 3 (35:20):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (35:21):
My dad says the Bills about twenty one. He's a
season ticket holder. I say the Bills about fourteen.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
I think the Bills trounced the Dolphins, who might be
the first team to fire their coach.

Speaker 5 (35:31):
I'm with that here. Yeah, I think Mike mc daniels
on the street here.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
Pretty soon, we got to find something else to watch
the second half.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Another play caller potentially biting dust for the.

Speaker 5 (35:41):
Record, I won't be here tomorrow. I'm taking Cowboys on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
I won't be here tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (35:45):
No, I want to be here tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Nothing.

Speaker 5 (35:46):
We're doing Friday shows every night. Yeah, hey man, sorry,
it happens doing something. You lose a lot.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Doctor's appointment. I couldn't get out of it.

Speaker 4 (35:52):
Sound like I'd like to live a little bit longer,
so doing the media bash or go to the doctor
and not die.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
So I'm gonna keep doing this.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
You think they can prevent that, I'm hoping.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
That's why I'm going to see them, man, That's why
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