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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 4 (00:25):
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warth Star Telegram the Hall of Famer. He is Ed
Werder Jean Jacques Taylor, form Cowboy Beat, writer and author
working on a big old, big old secreted book that
we can't talk about right now.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
But it's good because I know he's writing about. It's good.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
You do know?
Speaker 6 (00:44):
Yes, do you have a busting can?
Speaker 5 (00:47):
I've helped hen Does he have a busting can?
Speaker 6 (00:49):
Do you have can?
Speaker 7 (00:50):
No?
Speaker 5 (00:50):
I don't know. My name is just scratched onto some
like plaque on the all We'll get you a bust.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
It's it's nice.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
But you know, so when you had the dinner and
all that, what was it like in Ken Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yeah, for you when you're.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
There, I got to make like a three minute speech
at the big Gold Jacket ceremony on Friday Night. It
was fun to express your point of view and how
much you'd always love the NFL as a kid, and
you know, order your entire Christmas present list off the
Sears NFL catalog. It was great. It was an amazing
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time and the people up there are fantastic. And it
was ironic in my mind that I was honored the
same year Jerry was inducted. So because I came to
Dallas the very first year he bought the team.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
But you didn't have a party, and that was.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Jerry had me to his party though, which was equally shocking. No,
he let us all come much less expensive and surprising.
I know, he let you come. I'm letting meet them
is a different thing.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I just wanted to know, you know, because Jerry had Timberlake,
you know, in that class LT was there, LT had
t I, and ED didn't invite us and having to
party anything.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
You wouldn't have come and free stuff for the free.
You would have been at Jerry's party the whole night,
no matter what I invited you, but you.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Would have known not to have it that day because
nobody had anything. That's why l T had TI. The
next night, everybody knew to go to Jerry.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Well, I might have had it the same night just
to cutch expenses. You would have cut expenses million. I
had to feed me and my wife and any family
members who chose to attend.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
So the players coach the award gold jackets. What do
you get. It's a meaty person. You get a gold
pen watch anything.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
Uh, they give you the actual award. But no, you
don't get a gold jacket. You don't get a busting
canton in the main room. But they put your name
on a plaque that's in their facility forever. I can
direct you to it if you'd like to see it.
Sometimes I think I can give you a Rick Goss
and I'm proud to be on it. Right after my
great friend Chris Mortenson. I wanted very nice. I think
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it was a little bit of a sympathy award because
I had been laid off and a lot of people
were like to registering their i R towards ESPN for
you know, for letting go of a true journalist. I'm
not saying a great journalist. I'm just saying a true journalist.
And so for that reason, I think they decided to
elect me that year.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
All right, we just left the Cowboys locker room. Dak
Prescott spoke today. Dak Prescott right now number one in
the NFL and completion percentage, number one with incompletions.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
And number one in attempts.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
I just say attempts right now, we're sitting down here,
which was when you brought that up to him, and
he said, hey, I'll throw it sixty times today, sixty
times if I need to.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
And I'm like, oh no, no.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I ain't really win in formula.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
There we go.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
I mean, we did hear about the running game all
off season, but.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Dak is doing his part and that that for me
is the thing that and you guys let me know
how you feel, and that we got a lot of
football to go. But the year he finished second the
MVP to Lamar Tilamar Jackson, right now, I feel like
he's playing better than that.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
So thirty seven touchdown passes that year there was a
franchise record. He's gonna own all franchise passing records, virtually
all of them. Although he said after the game the
other night, doesn't really mean anything. Damn. He's here to
win games and do it. Stallbach and Aikman did and
I don't know that that's going to be possible.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
What the defense he's playing with, So you might as
well get all the records.
Speaker 8 (04:16):
The reality, it's a tough reality when you're chasing Romo
and not stallback and eight min. That's nothing against Romo,
just Romo didn't win anything.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Well, Romo did what Deck has done thus far, which
has put up a bunch of gaudy numbers with no
hardware to accompany.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
Then well he he played with this, relying on the
same people to build the team around him.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
This is true, and Jerry says one of his big
regrets is not getting a Super Bowl for Tony Romo,
which is why he talked about, you know, possibly putting
him in the Ring of Honor. But I'm like, I
can't do that, Jerry.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I mean he can't.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
No, one man committee. No, No, the man shouldn't do it.
You shouldn't do it. I like Tony personally, but Tony's no.
When we have people who've won Super Bowl MVPs, it
can't get up there. No, Tony Wroe, we should not
get should be up there.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Unless you win the championship as a quarterback, you don't
get up there. I mean Ranny White.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Craig Morton took the Cowboys to their first ever Super
Bowl and the only ring of honor I've ever seen
him in is in.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Denver and they got like fifty people and he let.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Denver to there for a Super Bowl, end up losing
to the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
But I mean when I when I talk to people
about the standards and what folks who haven't got in Andy,
we're talking about a dude who couldn't get to the
NFC Championship.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Game, who's two in four in his playoff career, and
Dak's two in five.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yeah, yeah, No, Dak doesn't. Dak doesn't. Dak doesn't get
in den who doesn't get in in.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
Wittin' will have a gold jacket, Whitton Martin, Smith.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Martin will have a jacket. It will be interesting to
see if Tyron Smith get to one. That'll be an
interesting conversation. And you can speak to that because you.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Know, I think he's just qualified as Zach Martin his
for one and personally from covering his career.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
And you know, I believe he'll I believe they'll have
the discussion. You know, I believe they'll have the discussion.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
I think he's viewed around the league as a uniquely
great player and a physical freak.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
And he was just quiet.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
Well so is Zach. But I think he has a
Hall of Fame reputation around the league.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
And that's and once again that that's an interesting thing.
Look like this, I'd have a conversation about Tyron Smith
and obviously a gold jacket will definitely put you there.
But no, if we're not, those are the only people
I would be having any conversations about.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
But but he didn't win a championship either.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
But if you get a gold jacket, it's that that
to me, super Bowl gold jacket, it's got to be.
It's got to be one of the two right now,
or I don't see how you get in there.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Around here, yes.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Around here and the Cowboys Ring of Honor because you know,
I said, you've got guys with Super Bowl MVPs who
can't get up there. And as far as the quarterback
thing goes, we set the standard, right, Oh yeah, ring
ringing jacket.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
It's the set.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
It's a high standard, that right, and.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
You know, and it is that's and they should keep
it that way.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
But when you when you look at this team, the
dichotomy of this team offensively and defensively. It's I'm not
sure it's ever been this extreme before. Like Romo had
more competitive defenses in his tenure than Dak has has
generally had. Of course, they kept the Marcus where they
didn't trade him like they did Michael Parsons. But I
just think it's I mean, to be first in the
(07:23):
NFL on offense and dead last in defense, which they
were next to last in defense last year, and so
maybe it's just a they don't draft as well on defense.
I think that's proven if you look at how they
performed in the draft. Look at they've had eight first
round picks. They devoted ford offense and for to defense.
But look at the offensive players they picked and the
impact they've had versus the defensive players they picked. Since
(07:44):
Dak Prescott became the starting quarterback.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Here's one thing I will say, and it's it's not
an excuse.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
But but that means it's going to sound like one.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
They keep running through coordinators here.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
On defense, Yes, yeah, he'd been morething.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
To be safe, You've been more consistent with their offense
and saying you know, Jerry, oh you know what when
when he had Jason Garrett. He was like, well, you know,
we want to keep the offense here going, and they
paid Jason a lot of money, but defens me, they
just I mean, you look at the last three guys.
I mean, I said last year when they hired Mike Zimmer,
you're not giving the carpenter the tools that he wins with.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
He wins with big people.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
So just now you've got Ibraflus here and he's out
here doing his own and we got Diggs talking about
I'm a man guy.
Speaker 8 (08:24):
I mean, just that's a good point because dan Quinn
when he was here for those three years, that was
the most consistent.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
You saw this defense and a big.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Voice in the draft, Rightank exactly right. They drafted for him.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
They gave the carpenter the tools that he needed. And
the other thing that dan Quinn was able to do
was go bring in his people. You know, he got
to go bring in guys at all three levels here.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
You didn't get to bring in Bobby Wagner, all though he.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Wanted to, true and Bobby's done well for him in Washington.
Probably should have listened to him on that.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
But you got Marquise Bell. Don't need Bobby Wagner twenty
twenty three.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Yeah, yeah, but I think when we're talking in terms
of defense here, if I'm talking about just looking at.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Yeah, there's been no consistency of philosophy, and so it
becomes harder to fit the right players in or to
have assemble the right cast for what you're trying to
do on that side of level since.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Twenty twenty you think about it, So you had Nolan, Quinn,
Zimmer four and six years and now you're on Eberflus.
None of the four ran the same thing, right, that's
a challenge you're trending towards five and seven.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
But two of them had something in common that's important
to the Joneses, and that's familiarity. They knew Zim and
they knew Eberflus, and so that's why to me this like,
you can't blame Ebraflus for this. He's proven to be
a successful defensive coordinator in with other franchises, right one,
and he has. He was here for seven years under
(09:53):
Rod Marinelli. He called the defenses here. Most people don't
know that because that wasn't technically his job, but Rod
had him call in the defenses.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
What did he win here? And what did they win
in Indianapolis?
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Well, what did they have in Indianapolis? Who was the quarterback?
They won when they had Andrew Luck? But he wasn't
there then I had good defenses. I just wonder how
did they not have top ten defenses. I just wonder
how they weren't thirty second in the NFL. They weren't,
and they've been thirty second in the NFL or just
three of the guys you've named.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
I'm not saying this is all his phone, because I said,
before we talked about it, you thought you have Michael Parsons.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
But I do wonder how good easy because we.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
I don't know, but we gave him no chance to
find out when you trade Michael Parsons a week before
the season starts.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
I go back to even with Zimmer, you didn't give
him the pieces he needed, so we're bringing your breeze.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
He had that piece, he had a pass rush. True,
they were injured a lot. The injuries were the big
problem with him. I mean, I don't know that he
necessarily met their expectations as a coach either, but he
could certainly cite injuries as being a cause for them
finishing next to Lass in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
And well, the goal was to improve the run defense
and so not to run defenses better.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
That's the first thing you ever flew center, as Prescofverce say,
let's talk about how good this run defenses. That really
good thing, you guys.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
You know, the problem is you stop it on first
and second time, and then because you got no passwords,
third and for fourteen is like third and two.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
I waste your time running on this team.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
That's why Green bagos eight for eleven on third down.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
Yeah, you know what, you're better off if you can't
stop the ruck because people generally don't score a lot
of points. You know what running the football.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
You're exactly right, No, for real, you're better off.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
It hurts, but it's harder for teams to run the ball,
you know, fourteen plays down.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
The field than it is two big plays and get
it in.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
When it comes to running the rush defense, Cowboys rush
defenses twenty first in the league. They gave up one
hundred and twenty three yards a game. They're dead last
in passing giving up basically being a negative, and on
third down the Cowboys are dead last fifty eight percent.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Those the negative stats find some positives.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
They are fifth in sacks. Really, no, I should say
they're tied for twenty six five. So that's not what
I'm trying to find. Was a high number.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
He thought he had a story for tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Eighteenth they eate, They're tied for eighteenth of the fumble
recoveries won.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Damn it, I've gotten to me. I got nothing bro.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
For three years while they won those twelve games, like,
they had a defensive identity, right, dan Quinn created a
defensive identity we already talked about. He was allowed to
pick his players, sure, and they put those players in
the right system for the right coach. And they built
an identity based on a ferocious pass rush, one of
the best pass rushers in football, and taking the ball away,
scoring defensive touchdowns. Yeah, setting up the offense for easy
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short field short None of that happens now.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
So let me just spitball this.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
What if they had kept Joe wit Junior, who wanted
the job, instead of saying no, we want Mike Zimmer
and then Joe goes up to Washington and helps them
coordinate a defense that goes in the NFCY Championship game.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Well, it only works if you're going to let him
do what he do if you're going to keep the
same system and allow him kind of the same leeway
to put the same players in the same system.
Speaker 8 (13:05):
And if we're following trajectory with what this front office
likes to do, Joe Whittett didn't have that play calling
experience and they wanted the guy who not only had
that but also head coaching experience in the same token.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
So I don't assume that anybody could have done what
Dan Quinn did here. I mean, I know he wasn't
popular when he left because they lost a lot of
games to the best opponents and they got run on.
But to me, they had better opportunities to win games,
and they were playing more important games, and the record
was certainly better than what they have now.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Well, they play, they did what they did. I mean,
the identity was clear.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Undersized players, speed pass rush man man, you know, I mean,
you know exactly what they're doing. That's why they were
incredible front runners and would blow you out if they
got up.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
But you yeah, pally score forty and they don't win. Yeah,
probably should have kept being Quinn one way or another.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
YEAP moved on from Mike McCarthy if you were't going
to get a guy an extension.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Yeah, it's pretty hard. It was pretty hard after that
Packer game to say, hey, we're firing Mike McCarthy, but
we're giving the job to Dan Quinn.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
I mean the Packers just scored forty eight points on
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And you have to play two snaps at free Safety.
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Speaker 6 (17:12):
Can I say something about the free safety situation?
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Please? Please?
Speaker 8 (17:15):
I think I think they have a potential to fall
up with one year, Thomas coming in and Malie Cooker
getting hurt in this instance.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
You've been banging a drum for a minute.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
But you really think Donovan Wilson's a bigger problem?
Speaker 8 (17:25):
Yes, I agree, I agree, But I think one Yea
has a little bit more when it comes to the
communications standpoint, and that's been proven this week from what
Schottenheimer and Ebraflus have said.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
So I think they have a potential to get better
with him on the field.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
I think I know what the communication problem is. By
the way, is that a practice today? You can't hear
a thing out there with it sounds like a nightclub
out there. How could anybody coach or communicate through all
that noise?
Speaker 1 (17:47):
That's crowd noise, that's what it's not.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Crowd noise.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
That's what they're going to do when they go to.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
The JITs this week, that rowdy MetLife noon crowd.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
They don't have anything like that. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (17:55):
I think it's louder.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
So anyway I might look into that.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
What would they play?
Speaker 5 (18:00):
I have no idea. It wasn't anything I recognized. It's
not on my playlist.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
So so and here here's nothing. The next time you
got there, just record it. No want to say, Sirie,
what song is this?
Speaker 1 (18:09):
And I'll tell you really just not Fleetwood Max. He
don't know.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
A little DMX tear it up. We had the horns going.
It was nice.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Anything you heard I did?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yeah, you didn't see him.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
It wasn't the Eagles out there, right, It wasn't the
Eagles the band they played in the divisions. They performance
the Sphere and it's a beautiful thing about music. There's
beautiful things and everything.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Did you see him? You did? Yep.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Somebody asked me that someone going to Last Face and
the Eagles playing. I said, I'm taking my kids like
to celebrate the twenty first birthday, so that my kid
has no clue who they are.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
Son him that my kids listened to that listened to
classic rock.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
I was, uh, just taking my son to school, and
he demanded control of the ox and I was shocked
at the eclectic blend of music because there was some
boast gags in there and some some maybe body else.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
I'm just letting you know, this kid's not doing it.
And I know without checking that a ticket to the
Eagles the Sphere is not going.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
To be cheap.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
So now you do know that without check, right.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
So I'm not going to spend money, good money on
a ticket like that. And my kids does not know
everybody singing ticket to the limit.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
The kids is no, that was like practice, same look exactly,
said to something sphares the window.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Yeah yeah, so no, I'll say, save myself some dollars
on that end, take the kid to go eat someplace.
Jackie talked about how this is a losable game here
and your Talk one right, we're talking about this on
the other podcast.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I do the Jets defense here.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
You talk about number one league right now, fourteen point
seven points game. They're third in yards per game, giving
up here two hundred and thirty two, talk about rushing
yards only giving up sixty four. That's third in the
league right now.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
So give it up at least twenty seven points in
every game, which is the Jets are usually a strong
defensive team.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
So and you know with the Cowboys and at the
third down, third down there thirty four point seven twelve.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
So the problem is this is a it's a game.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
You know, there's been a lot of feel good this week,
a lot of great Dax stats, a lot of great performances.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Dame won, but one game is you.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I'm worried about the offensive line.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
And the only game they won they scored forty points
at home and had to go to overtime to pull
it off against a winless opponent.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
And so now you got the Jets coming up.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
And it's not like the Jets are great, but when
you have a compromised offensive line and you have a
compromised offense and your defense is terrible through the first month,
you could lose real easy because and I harke him
back to the Chicago game. Okay, it's a ball game,
and then they just kept the ball the whole third quarter.
You punt it once, which is okay, but now you
never got the ball back. When you got it back,
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game was.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Over noon game.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
I wouldn't want to be I'm not sure I want
to be madd eberflush now, but I definitely don't want
to be madd Eberflus if he loses twice to former
Bears quarterbacks that he couldn't win with in Chicago, and
you can't because it was Kayleb Williams and this week
it's justin fields. And my first thought about this game
was the Jets are horrible throwing the football at least
they don't have to worry shouldn't have to worry about
a bunch of explosive plays being made against them in
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their past defense. But we saw what Justin Fields did
the other night with a forty three hour touchdown run
on what probably should have been a sack. Then and
you start thinking about how poorly they've defended the running
quarterback over the years, and you're like, well, who knows.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
And then they got Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
You know, yeah, but if the guy can't throw him
the ball, then it doesn't matter how good he is.
And I mean they saw Fields last year in Pittsburgh, right,
he was horrible throwing the football. They won on the
road against him in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Well, one thing we do know.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
And then I talked to Kenny Clark about this between
Fields and Billy.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Man, that's your new boy. Can he clack a client? Now?
I'm just asking, I'm just.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
Asking, can he not talk to people in the locker room?
Speaker 1 (21:50):
And man, this is we're talking about the trends?
Speaker 5 (21:53):
Go ahead, please do we all be interested?
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Kenny Kenny is a good Wednesday guy who shows up. Okay,
one thing we know from you guys have beat Rider
who's on show up. Kenny Clark is there on a
Wednesday to show up, and he's a good sound bite
and I'm giving it there and the defense isn't good.
So he's one of the few people who actually talk
to you and give you something. Jack Samboord talk to
Jack one day, Jack.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
A little bit, you know, Jack, a little personal. Sam
gave us nothing the other day, a little chip on
the shoulders.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
So at least what he got a chip on the shoulder. Okay,
I'm persecuted.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
He's been persecuted into poor performances.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah, so so Kenny Clark.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
At least.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
The truth.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Kenny Clark is the truth teller. But got me defending myself.
Oh how much this game remind you of Philadelphia where
you've got a quarterback who can take off on you
really quick, and then you've got another runner or a
good running back that you got to worry about here
that combination of two guys. You know, what are the
rush lanes and responsibilities when you when you play a
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team like this, And so he said, yeah, very much.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
So reminds him of the Eagle game.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
What they've got to go through with this one two punch,
with these guys' abilities to take off a run.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
And you re housed mentioned today that they've watched some
of the Eagles tapes as a you know, teaching opportunity
as far as the opportunities they created for a running
quarterback to really win the game against him. Yes, you know,
five scrambles for first downs, two touchdown runs off scrambles.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
So and Justin Field is good enough to take it
a long way to the house. I mean, he went
forty three the other day, but I think he's got
like five of more than forty in his career.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
No, he can, he can. This could be a problem,
you know.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
I just think I'd rather have that problem than the
passing quarterback problem with a good group of receivers. Yes,
because they can't cover anybody. We haven't seen him cover anybody.
Have you seen him cover anybody? Like you look at
a player, there's five guys wide open.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
When the when the third play of the game is
a go ball and your only hope of it defending
it is a two guys run into each other or
fight each other for the ball and it falls to
the ground. Somehow, that's not an ideal circumstance. You'd like
to avoid that.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
And even Jordan Love got away with some big scrambles.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
Now he had like a twenty five yard round, he
had a couple of them.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Not good, guys, it's not good. It's just this is
not good.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
Is it gonna get better?
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Like that's there's help.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
On the way? Yeah, Overstone's coming, Rebel's coming.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Nick just said, this level times is about to just
show us something.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
What about like how much better can it get? Really? Honestly,
how much better do you think this defense can get?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Are they gonna acquire anybody?
Speaker 5 (24:24):
No without making a trade.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
No, And there's not a trade to make that's gonna help.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
You need.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
You need so much help. It's it's not funny. I
don't know.
Speaker 8 (24:31):
If you put a really talented, communicative linebacker in that middle,
it could solve a lot of issue. You couldn't solve
every issue, but it could solve a lot of issues.
My opinion, really my opinion, well.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
How come they don't have that guy? Is that important?
Speaker 8 (24:44):
Why don't they bad evaluating? Horrible evaluating in the off season.
I think there was a little bit too much trust
in certain people's eyes when building this defense. When you
look at Kenneth Murray, look at Jack Sanborn as being
your two bell cow linebackers.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Either one of those guys were good on their previous teams.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
And it makes an since why so why you thought here?
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Whoever made those decision?
Speaker 5 (25:03):
Thomas wasn't good on his last team either, But he's
played good here.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
He's played good here.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I give you that, But I don't know why you
thought those guys were gonna be good. Yeah, and you
can overachieve. See that's a pleasant surprise.
Speaker 6 (25:18):
But I don't you know, the days of the rocked up,
you know, stiff linebacker who can still fly downhill and
make plays. That's just over.
Speaker 8 (25:26):
And I think if you know, if we're talking late
two thousands, Kenneth Murray, Jack Sandborn, man, it'd be a
lot of fun. But we need them in space and
uh in this day and age, and you know this,
this this defense can't work with those two guys.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
And yet they might continue to play.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
And they continued to play.
Speaker 8 (25:42):
We saw we saw Marilia foul, you know, swap in
and out for Jack Sanborn, and we saw Shamar James
do the same in the fourth quarter and overtime. But yeah,
it's it's not much better that this. This team does
need overshown because they need a guy in space that's athletic.
They need a guy that can cover sideline a sideline
and he can bring that, but he can't do it
all himself.
Speaker 6 (25:59):
He can't be the and he's coming off of that too.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
And he can rush the passer when he's at his.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Best right, but he's not gonna be at his best.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
Then he's only going to play half the season.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
He'll be at his best next year, but this year
is just be you know, a body working his way back.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
Well, let me ask you.
Speaker 8 (26:14):
Let's see trade deadline November fourth, about a month away.
Let's say they are three and three and one. At
that point in time, offense is still cooking like it
has been these first four weeks.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
There's a linebacker out there on the block.
Speaker 8 (26:28):
Do you go and make that deal, knowing that you
might have to give up a fifth round pick, knowing that,
knowing you don't have a third round pick right now.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
I'd rather do a deal for Max Crosby.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
In that situation, we can't mention names, Eddie. People are
under contract. Okay, go ahead and stay with.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
That guy like Max Crosby. The injury report or a
big time pass Rusher, the guy like Trey Hendry.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
They're all giving away. Stop.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
I said like that. I didn't say that guy. I
said a guy.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Take a break right now. Nick and Ja just.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
Got fired on my day, Jack, We'll be back. Other
guys have gotten replaced on the right here while I'm
on that cut.
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Speaker 5 (29:45):
Oh that was only like.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
A I mean yeah, yeah, my gosh.
Speaker 8 (29:49):
This is under contract. Yes, this injury report. The only
difference from yesterday, and we talked about a lot of
the guys yesterday, was a guy added in Marshaw Neeland.
He was limited with an ankle. I will say I
saw Marshall Neyland in the locker room. He looked in good spirits.
So I don't know if it's uh, you know, something
to be super concerned about.
Speaker 6 (30:05):
But that was the only guy added.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
But Tyler, feelings aren't hurt, but something else is.
Speaker 8 (30:09):
Maybe maybe Tyler Booker, we did see him on the
courts today, but did not practice. Tyler Guyden still in
concussion protocol, Malie Hooker's not going to play, Ceedee Lamb's
probably not going to play. Miles Sanders still trending in
the wrong direction. Did not practice today. Tyler Smith did
not practice that still one. Cavante Turpin not expecting him
to play this weekend either, did not practice.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
So hees so because if Tyler doesn't play, said, you
could possibly have four different offensive I mean from your
starting group.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Malie Hooker not playing.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
So yeah, it's it's you start to look at this
and then going back and we talked yesterday about Ed
you weren't here, but the offensive line issues of all right,
Tyler Smith, Guidon your left side right here, What happens
if you don't have both of them? What happens if
if you have one or two of them and then
they get hurt in the game.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
Just your death is already on the field, thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
You're not talking about your third string somebody.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
It's like that T and T the who he is,
and Dak's already protecting himself more than any of the
five offensive linemen are pro anymore at least as well well.
Speaker 8 (31:09):
To think about it too, they only get those three
practice squad elevations. They are going to have to make
someone active on Sunday most likely who is not going
to be ready to play. I think about the Tyrone
Smith situation in Arizona a couple of years ago when
he was made active, but he was hurt and he
couldn't play, but they they may as well had him
on the active roster because you know, it is.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
What it is at that point. So it's it's going
to be tough reality.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
When losable game, you got to win very losible game.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Jets oh and four looking for their first win and
if that don't help, right, and then the week before
here are the Giants face face facing the Chargers at home,
and they get themselves at some point time.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
You know, the Jets aren't going over. Okay, they're not
going over.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
And we've seen the Cowboys like it was a JG
special back in twenty nineteen, went on up to the
medal lands got beat and they had they were missing
two tackles.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
The Jets are the fourth team to start zero to
four and have no takeaways. Of those previous teams. Every
one of them won the next game and had multiple takeaways.
Speaker 8 (32:14):
It's looking like a good trend. There's a lot of
things playing against this Cowboys team, not only the injuries.
This team doesn't play well on noon games on the road.
This Jets team has a scrambling quarterback. Like we mentioned,
there's just too many things working against this team. It's
a scary matchup. A pretty good run defense, pretty good
run defense, suspect passes.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
The team looking for a win and having watched tape, going,
we can get this one.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Yeah, Aaron Glenn's former team.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
Yeah, so Aaron Glenn had some pretty good numbers here.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Glenn was a good football player for the time.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
He's in TEXTAA team here with what Bill Parcels.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Yes, part of the five club friends of Bill, Yeah
Parcels the Parcels.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
Gay get five or six interceptions I think in eight starts.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Good player, Yeah, good player, good coach, you know good.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
And the Jets. He's a third Jets coach to start
ohing four. None of them have started on five.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
He'd be the first. Oh, I don't gamble.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
I don't need that.
Speaker 6 (33:11):
We don't do that on the show, right.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
I don't gamble or off the show.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
I don't gamble, but boy, if I worry degenerate, I'd
be taking.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
Some very You could be a degenerate not gamble.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
No, no, no.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
In other ways, wanting to a degenerate from what I understand.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
A gamble too much tostedos.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
I'm glad to know you don't gamble.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Yes, no, no.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
At my time in La served me well enough, and
then we used to go to Vegas all the time
for the fights, and so I got it all out
of I was young, got it all out of my
system to the point I'm good.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I'm good now.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
I'm watching Black Rabbit right now on Netflix, and it's
a great show. Yeah, it introduces that element of degenerate
gambling and the damaging effects of it.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
The one thing I'll always remember that was never bad
at it. I could, I had limits and it stop.
But I remembered one time it was I don't know,
maybe eleven forty.
Speaker 5 (34:05):
It was a long.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
Line walking through saying what's the line for? People were
standing in line to wait to get to the ATM
to get the next day's money back to the limit
like the limit, and then over by the ATM you're
seeing at this continue I saw it set deed office.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
You're not putting your crib up. So I said, man,
now that's the generate.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
These are the kind of like when you decide, you know,
I'm probably not going to do this anymore. Except I
didn't ever have a problem, but I was like, man,
these people got issues.
Speaker 6 (34:35):
Man, you know what's crazy.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
I was.
Speaker 8 (34:36):
I had to fly into Milwaukee for the Chicago game
because of all the weather and the travel delays in DFW.
So I flew into Milwaukee and I took an uber
down to Chicago and when we were coming down, right
at the state line, there was the rest area and
it was just packed this rest area and it was
pouring down rain. I was like, what are people doing.
They're not on the road right now, lot machines. And
what it was was it was Saturday and the night
(34:58):
games were about to start in college football. Those are
all those people at that rest area. Because in Illinois
you can do the Draft Kings and the underdogs of
the world, and the Wisconsin you can't. And my uber
Jarver is like, yeah, you will see that every every Saturday,
every Sunday, right right at the state limes, right at
that state line, He's like you you might even catch
(35:18):
it for the eleven PM Hawaii kickoff tonight, and uh yeah,
it's it's it's a real it's a real thing. Call
the hotline, all the hot line. If you're at a
rest area at five thirty pouring down rain in Chicago,
call the hot lie.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
That makes me think that's when somebody needs to take
the video is show it to the local, to the
state politicians like this is money that's leaving.
Speaker 6 (35:38):
That's true, that is very true.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
This is this is Wisconsin.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
Money is now the flip side. Let's take advantage of
this degenerate.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Yeah, we gotta go somewhere.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
That's that's the American in Texas.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
You're all going over here to Oklahoma and simple you
want you want to keep the money here.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
You know, build a fence, people build fence, keep your
tax dollars build right, we go leave on that note,
all right.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
Uh had I was chastised for saying this guy like.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
That, Hey man, league, ain't calling me about that Rams
niners tonight.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Who you got? It's the games of the Rams.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Now you gotta go with the with the Rams.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
Absolutely, the Rams. Given how injured the forty.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Nine, everybody said last year, everybody went with the Rams,
and the Rams are good except for the Stafford threw
for three seventy five last week.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
He a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
Yeah, I think he is. He won a super Bowl,
put up big numbers, survived Detroit.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
He's played himself into the Hall of Fay.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
With the Rams. He would not have been a Hall
of Famer without the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Ring he was out of my mouth.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
Yep, I agree, I agree.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
A bunch of gaudy numbers.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
He was the catcher for Clayton Kershaw at Highland Park
High School and both men are going to the Hall
of Fame. Clayton wi he's retiring after the season. So
what was.
Speaker 6 (36:53):
This on the contract?
Speaker 5 (36:54):
What was his caught stealing rate?
Speaker 4 (36:57):
I don't know. You know what with Clayton Kershot did
they get on? Oh that's true too, they even get on.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
That's why it's but it's a percentage, right, the percentage
of the guys who tried to steal, not the total
number of guys who succeeded. I just want the percentage.
Let's look that up.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
That's why you're the hole.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Let's have a research ed Nick Jack I'm newing for
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Media Match, a roundtable of Cowboys insiders, trumping wisdom and
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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Now your host new He scrugs.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Welcome to the media mash, my friends. Where you're a
media round table is when it cares to the four
warth Star Telegram the Hall of Famer. He is Ed
Werder Jean Jacques Taylor, form Cowboy Beat, writer and author
working on a big old, big old secreted book that
we can't talk about right now.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
But it's good because I know he's writing about. It's good.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
You do know?
Speaker 6 (00:44):
Yes, do you have a busting can?
Speaker 5 (00:47):
I've helped hen Does he have a busting can?
Speaker 6 (00:49):
Do you have can?
Speaker 7 (00:50):
No?
Speaker 5 (00:50):
I don't know. My name is just scratched onto some
like plaque on the all We'll get you a bust.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
It's it's nice.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
But you know, so when you had the dinner and
all that, what was it like in Ken Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yeah, for you when you're.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
There, I got to make like a three minute speech
at the big Gold Jacket ceremony on Friday Night. It
was fun to express your point of view and how
much you'd always love the NFL as a kid, and
you know, order your entire Christmas present list off the
Sears NFL catalog. It was great. It was an amazing
(01:25):
time and the people up there are fantastic. And it
was ironic in my mind that I was honored the
same year Jerry was inducted. So because I came to
Dallas the very first year he bought the team.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
But you didn't have a party, and that was.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Jerry had me to his party though, which was equally shocking. No,
he let us all come much less expensive and surprising.
I know, he let you come. I'm letting meet them
is a different thing.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I just wanted to know, you know, because Jerry had Timberlake,
you know, in that class LT was there, LT had
t I, and ED didn't invite us and having to
party anything.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
You wouldn't have come and free stuff for the free.
You would have been at Jerry's party the whole night,
no matter what I invited you, but you.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Would have known not to have it that day because
nobody had anything. That's why l T had TI. The
next night, everybody knew to go to Jerry.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Well, I might have had it the same night just
to cutch expenses. You would have cut expenses million. I
had to feed me and my wife and any family
members who chose to attend.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
So the players coach the award gold jackets. What do
you get. It's a meaty person. You get a gold
pen watch anything.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
Uh, they give you the actual award. But no, you
don't get a gold jacket. You don't get a busting
canton in the main room. But they put your name
on a plaque that's in their facility forever. I can
direct you to it if you'd like to see it.
Sometimes I think I can give you a Rick Goss
and I'm proud to be on it. Right after my
great friend Chris Mortenson. I wanted very nice. I think
(02:56):
it was a little bit of a sympathy award because
I had been laid off and a lot of people
were like to registering their i R towards ESPN for
you know, for letting go of a true journalist. I'm
not saying a great journalist. I'm just saying a true journalist.
And so for that reason, I think they decided to
elect me that year.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
All right, we just left the Cowboys locker room. Dak
Prescott spoke today. Dak Prescott right now number one in
the NFL and completion percentage, number one with incompletions.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
And number one in attempts.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
I just say attempts right now, we're sitting down here,
which was when you brought that up to him, and
he said, hey, I'll throw it sixty times today, sixty
times if I need to.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
And I'm like, oh no, no.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I ain't really win in formula.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
There we go.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
I mean, we did hear about the running game all
off season, but.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Dak is doing his part and that that for me
is the thing that and you guys let me know
how you feel, and that we got a lot of
football to go. But the year he finished second the
MVP to Lamar Tilamar Jackson, right now, I feel like
he's playing better than that.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
So thirty seven touchdown passes that year there was a
franchise record. He's gonna own all franchise passing records, virtually
all of them. Although he said after the game the
other night, doesn't really mean anything. Damn. He's here to
win games and do it. Stallbach and Aikman did and
I don't know that that's going to be possible.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
What the defense he's playing with, So you might as
well get all the records.
Speaker 8 (04:16):
The reality, it's a tough reality when you're chasing Romo
and not stallback and eight min. That's nothing against Romo,
just Romo didn't win anything.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Well, Romo did what Deck has done thus far, which
has put up a bunch of gaudy numbers with no
hardware to accompany.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
Then well he he played with this, relying on the
same people to build the team around him.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
This is true, and Jerry says one of his big
regrets is not getting a Super Bowl for Tony Romo,
which is why he talked about, you know, possibly putting
him in the Ring of Honor. But I'm like, I
can't do that, Jerry.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I mean he can't.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
No, one man committee. No, No, the man shouldn't do it.
You shouldn't do it. I like Tony personally, but Tony's no.
When we have people who've won Super Bowl MVPs, it
can't get up there. No, Tony Wroe, we should not
get should be up there.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Unless you win the championship as a quarterback, you don't
get up there. I mean Ranny White.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Craig Morton took the Cowboys to their first ever Super
Bowl and the only ring of honor I've ever seen
him in is in.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Denver and they got like fifty people and he let.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Denver to there for a Super Bowl, end up losing
to the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
But I mean when I when I talk to people
about the standards and what folks who haven't got in Andy,
we're talking about a dude who couldn't get to the
NFC Championship.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Game, who's two in four in his playoff career, and
Dak's two in five.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yeah, yeah, No, Dak doesn't. Dak doesn't. Dak doesn't get
in den who doesn't get in in.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
Wittin' will have a gold jacket, Whitton Martin, Smith.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Martin will have a jacket. It will be interesting to
see if Tyron Smith get to one. That'll be an
interesting conversation. And you can speak to that because you.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Know, I think he's just qualified as Zach Martin his
for one and personally from covering his career.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
And you know, I believe he'll I believe they'll have
the discussion. You know, I believe they'll have the discussion.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
I think he's viewed around the league as a uniquely
great player and a physical freak.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
And he was just quiet.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
Well so is Zach. But I think he has a
Hall of Fame reputation around the league.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
And that's and once again that that's an interesting thing.
Look like this, I'd have a conversation about Tyron Smith
and obviously a gold jacket will definitely put you there.
But no, if we're not, those are the only people
I would be having any conversations about.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
But but he didn't win a championship either.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
But if you get a gold jacket, it's that that
to me, super Bowl gold jacket, it's got to be.
It's got to be one of the two right now,
or I don't see how you get in there.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Around here, yes.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Around here and the Cowboys Ring of Honor because you know,
I said, you've got guys with Super Bowl MVPs who
can't get up there. And as far as the quarterback
thing goes, we set the standard, right, Oh yeah, ring
ringing jacket.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
It's the set.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
It's a high standard, that right, and.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
You know, and it is that's and they should keep
it that way.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
But when you when you look at this team, the
dichotomy of this team offensively and defensively. It's I'm not
sure it's ever been this extreme before. Like Romo had
more competitive defenses in his tenure than Dak has has
generally had. Of course, they kept the Marcus where they
didn't trade him like they did Michael Parsons. But I
just think it's I mean, to be first in the
(07:23):
NFL on offense and dead last in defense, which they
were next to last in defense last year, and so
maybe it's just a they don't draft as well on defense.
I think that's proven if you look at how they
performed in the draft. Look at they've had eight first
round picks. They devoted ford offense and for to defense.
But look at the offensive players they picked and the
impact they've had versus the defensive players they picked. Since
(07:44):
Dak Prescott became the starting quarterback.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Here's one thing I will say, and it's it's not
an excuse.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
But but that means it's going to sound like one.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
They keep running through coordinators here.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
On defense, Yes, yeah, he'd been morething.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
To be safe, You've been more consistent with their offense
and saying you know, Jerry, oh you know what when
when he had Jason Garrett. He was like, well, you know,
we want to keep the offense here going, and they
paid Jason a lot of money, but defens me, they
just I mean, you look at the last three guys.
I mean, I said last year when they hired Mike Zimmer,
you're not giving the carpenter the tools that he wins with.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
He wins with big people.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
So just now you've got Ibraflus here and he's out
here doing his own and we got Diggs talking about
I'm a man guy.
Speaker 8 (08:24):
I mean, just that's a good point because dan Quinn
when he was here for those three years, that was
the most consistent.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
You saw this defense and a big.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Voice in the draft, Rightank exactly right. They drafted for him.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
They gave the carpenter the tools that he needed. And
the other thing that dan Quinn was able to do
was go bring in his people. You know, he got
to go bring in guys at all three levels here.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
You didn't get to bring in Bobby Wagner, all though he.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Wanted to, true and Bobby's done well for him in Washington.
Probably should have listened to him on that.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
But you got Marquise Bell. Don't need Bobby Wagner twenty
twenty three.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Yeah, yeah, but I think when we're talking in terms
of defense here, if I'm talking about just looking at.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Yeah, there's been no consistency of philosophy, and so it
becomes harder to fit the right players in or to
have assemble the right cast for what you're trying to
do on that side of level since.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Twenty twenty you think about it, So you had Nolan, Quinn,
Zimmer four and six years and now you're on Eberflus.
None of the four ran the same thing, right, that's
a challenge you're trending towards five and seven.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
But two of them had something in common that's important
to the Joneses, and that's familiarity. They knew Zim and
they knew Eberflus, and so that's why to me this like,
you can't blame Ebraflus for this. He's proven to be
a successful defensive coordinator in with other franchises, right one,
and he has. He was here for seven years under
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Rod Marinelli. He called the defenses here. Most people don't
know that because that wasn't technically his job, but Rod
had him call in the defenses.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
What did he win here? And what did they win
in Indianapolis?
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Well, what did they have in Indianapolis? Who was the quarterback?
They won when they had Andrew Luck? But he wasn't
there then I had good defenses. I just wonder how
did they not have top ten defenses. I just wonder
how they weren't thirty second in the NFL. They weren't,
and they've been thirty second in the NFL or just
three of the guys you've named.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
I'm not saying this is all his phone, because I said,
before we talked about it, you thought you have Michael Parsons.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
But I do wonder how good easy because we.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
I don't know, but we gave him no chance to
find out when you trade Michael Parsons a week before
the season starts.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
I go back to even with Zimmer, you didn't give
him the pieces he needed, so we're bringing your breeze.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
He had that piece, he had a pass rush. True,
they were injured a lot. The injuries were the big
problem with him. I mean, I don't know that he
necessarily met their expectations as a coach either, but he
could certainly cite injuries as being a cause for them
finishing next to Lass in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
And well, the goal was to improve the run defense
and so not to run defenses better.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
That's the first thing you ever flew center, as Prescofverce say,
let's talk about how good this run defenses. That really
good thing, you guys.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
You know, the problem is you stop it on first
and second time, and then because you got no passwords,
third and for fourteen is like third and two.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
I waste your time running on this team.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
That's why Green bagos eight for eleven on third down.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
Yeah, you know what, you're better off if you can't
stop the ruck because people generally don't score a lot
of points. You know what running the football.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
You're exactly right, No, for real, you're better off.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
It hurts, but it's harder for teams to run the ball,
you know, fourteen plays down.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
The field than it is two big plays and get
it in.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
When it comes to running the rush defense, Cowboys rush
defenses twenty first in the league. They gave up one
hundred and twenty three yards a game. They're dead last
in passing giving up basically being a negative, and on
third down the Cowboys are dead last fifty eight percent.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Those the negative stats find some positives.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
They are fifth in sacks. Really, no, I should say
they're tied for twenty six five. So that's not what
I'm trying to find. Was a high number.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
He thought he had a story for tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Eighteenth they eate, They're tied for eighteenth of the fumble
recoveries won.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Damn it, I've gotten to me. I got nothing bro.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
For three years while they won those twelve games, like,
they had a defensive identity, right, dan Quinn created a
defensive identity we already talked about. He was allowed to
pick his players, sure, and they put those players in
the right system for the right coach. And they built
an identity based on a ferocious pass rush, one of
the best pass rushers in football, and taking the ball away,
scoring defensive touchdowns. Yeah, setting up the offense for easy
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short field short None of that happens now.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
So let me just spitball this.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
What if they had kept Joe wit Junior, who wanted
the job, instead of saying no, we want Mike Zimmer
and then Joe goes up to Washington and helps them
coordinate a defense that goes in the NFCY Championship game.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Well, it only works if you're going to let him
do what he do if you're going to keep the
same system and allow him kind of the same leeway
to put the same players in the same system.
Speaker 8 (13:05):
And if we're following trajectory with what this front office
likes to do, Joe Whittett didn't have that play calling
experience and they wanted the guy who not only had
that but also head coaching experience in the same token.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
So I don't assume that anybody could have done what
Dan Quinn did here. I mean, I know he wasn't
popular when he left because they lost a lot of
games to the best opponents and they got run on.
But to me, they had better opportunities to win games,
and they were playing more important games, and the record
was certainly better than what they have now.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Well, they play, they did what they did. I mean,
the identity was clear.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Undersized players, speed pass rush man man, you know, I mean,
you know exactly what they're doing. That's why they were
incredible front runners and would blow you out if they
got up.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
But you yeah, pally score forty and they don't win. Yeah,
probably should have kept being Quinn one way or another.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
YEAP moved on from Mike McCarthy if you were't going
to get a guy an extension.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Yeah, it's pretty hard. It was pretty hard after that
Packer game to say, hey, we're firing Mike McCarthy, but
we're giving the job to Dan Quinn.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
I mean the Packers just scored forty eight points on
you man.
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And you have to play two snaps at free Safety.
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Speaker 6 (17:12):
Can I say something about the free safety situation?
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Please? Please?
Speaker 8 (17:15):
I think I think they have a potential to fall
up with one year, Thomas coming in and Malie Cooker
getting hurt in this instance.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
You've been banging a drum for a minute.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
But you really think Donovan Wilson's a bigger problem?
Speaker 8 (17:25):
Yes, I agree, I agree, But I think one Yea
has a little bit more when it comes to the
communications standpoint, and that's been proven this week from what
Schottenheimer and Ebraflus have said.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
So I think they have a potential to get better
with him on the field.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
I think I know what the communication problem is. By
the way, is that a practice today? You can't hear
a thing out there with it sounds like a nightclub
out there. How could anybody coach or communicate through all
that noise?
Speaker 1 (17:47):
That's crowd noise, that's what it's not.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Crowd noise.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
That's what they're going to do when they go to.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
The JITs this week, that rowdy MetLife noon crowd.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
They don't have anything like that. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (17:55):
I think it's louder.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
So anyway I might look into that.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
What would they play?
Speaker 5 (18:00):
I have no idea. It wasn't anything I recognized. It's
not on my playlist.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
So so and here here's nothing. The next time you
got there, just record it. No want to say, Sirie,
what song is this?
Speaker 1 (18:09):
And I'll tell you really just not Fleetwood Max. He
don't know.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
A little DMX tear it up. We had the horns going.
It was nice.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Anything you heard I did?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yeah, you didn't see him.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
It wasn't the Eagles out there, right, It wasn't the
Eagles the band they played in the divisions. They performance
the Sphere and it's a beautiful thing about music. There's
beautiful things and everything.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Did you see him? You did? Yep.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Somebody asked me that someone going to Last Face and
the Eagles playing. I said, I'm taking my kids like
to celebrate the twenty first birthday, so that my kid
has no clue who they are.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
Son him that my kids listened to that listened to
classic rock.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
I was, uh, just taking my son to school, and
he demanded control of the ox and I was shocked
at the eclectic blend of music because there was some
boast gags in there and some some maybe body else.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
I'm just letting you know, this kid's not doing it.
And I know without checking that a ticket to the
Eagles the Sphere is not going.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
To be cheap.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
So now you do know that without check, right.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
So I'm not going to spend money, good money on
a ticket like that. And my kids does not know
everybody singing ticket to the limit.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
The kids is no, that was like practice, same look exactly,
said to something sphares the window.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Yeah yeah, so no, I'll say, save myself some dollars
on that end, take the kid to go eat someplace.
Jackie talked about how this is a losable game here
and your Talk one right, we're talking about this on
the other podcast.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I do the Jets defense here.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
You talk about number one league right now, fourteen point
seven points game. They're third in yards per game, giving
up here two hundred and thirty two, talk about rushing
yards only giving up sixty four. That's third in the
league right now.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
So give it up at least twenty seven points in
every game, which is the Jets are usually a strong
defensive team.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
So and you know with the Cowboys and at the
third down, third down there thirty four point seven twelve.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
So the problem is this is a it's a game.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
You know, there's been a lot of feel good this week,
a lot of great Dax stats, a lot of great performances.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Dame won, but one game is you.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I'm worried about the offensive line.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
And the only game they won they scored forty points
at home and had to go to overtime to pull
it off against a winless opponent.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
And so now you got the Jets coming up.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
And it's not like the Jets are great, but when
you have a compromised offensive line and you have a
compromised offense and your defense is terrible through the first month,
you could lose real easy because and I harke him
back to the Chicago game. Okay, it's a ball game,
and then they just kept the ball the whole third quarter.
You punt it once, which is okay, but now you
never got the ball back. When you got it back,
(20:46):
game was.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Over noon game.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
I wouldn't want to be I'm not sure I want
to be madd eberflush now, but I definitely don't want
to be madd Eberflus if he loses twice to former
Bears quarterbacks that he couldn't win with in Chicago, and
you can't because it was Kayleb Williams and this week
it's justin fields. And my first thought about this game
was the Jets are horrible throwing the football at least
they don't have to worry shouldn't have to worry about
a bunch of explosive plays being made against them in
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their past defense. But we saw what Justin Fields did
the other night with a forty three hour touchdown run
on what probably should have been a sack. Then and
you start thinking about how poorly they've defended the running
quarterback over the years, and you're like, well, who knows.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
And then they got Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
You know, yeah, but if the guy can't throw him
the ball, then it doesn't matter how good he is.
And I mean they saw Fields last year in Pittsburgh, right,
he was horrible throwing the football. They won on the
road against him in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Well, one thing we do know.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
And then I talked to Kenny Clark about this between
Fields and Billy.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Man, that's your new boy. Can he clack a client? Now?
I'm just asking, I'm just.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
Asking, can he not talk to people in the locker room?
Speaker 1 (21:50):
And man, this is we're talking about the trends?
Speaker 5 (21:53):
Go ahead, please do we all be interested?
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Kenny Kenny is a good Wednesday guy who shows up. Okay,
one thing we know from you guys have beat Rider
who's on show up. Kenny Clark is there on a
Wednesday to show up, and he's a good sound bite
and I'm giving it there and the defense isn't good.
So he's one of the few people who actually talk
to you and give you something. Jack Samboord talk to
Jack one day, Jack.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
A little bit, you know, Jack, a little personal. Sam
gave us nothing the other day, a little chip on
the shoulders.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
So at least what he got a chip on the shoulder. Okay,
I'm persecuted.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
He's been persecuted into poor performances.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah, so so Kenny Clark.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
At least.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
The truth.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Kenny Clark is the truth teller. But got me defending myself.
Oh how much this game remind you of Philadelphia where
you've got a quarterback who can take off on you
really quick, and then you've got another runner or a
good running back that you got to worry about here
that combination of two guys. You know, what are the
rush lanes and responsibilities when you when you play a
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team like this, And so he said, yeah, very much.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
So reminds him of the Eagle game.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
What they've got to go through with this one two punch,
with these guys' abilities to take off a run.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
And you re housed mentioned today that they've watched some
of the Eagles tapes as a you know, teaching opportunity
as far as the opportunities they created for a running
quarterback to really win the game against him. Yes, you know,
five scrambles for first downs, two touchdown runs off scrambles.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
So and Justin Field is good enough to take it
a long way to the house. I mean, he went
forty three the other day, but I think he's got
like five of more than forty in his career.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
No, he can, he can. This could be a problem,
you know.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
I just think I'd rather have that problem than the
passing quarterback problem with a good group of receivers. Yes,
because they can't cover anybody. We haven't seen him cover anybody.
Have you seen him cover anybody? Like you look at
a player, there's five guys wide open.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
When the when the third play of the game is
a go ball and your only hope of it defending
it is a two guys run into each other or
fight each other for the ball and it falls to
the ground. Somehow, that's not an ideal circumstance. You'd like
to avoid that.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
And even Jordan Love got away with some big scrambles.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
Now he had like a twenty five yard round, he
had a couple of them.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Not good, guys, it's not good. It's just this is
not good.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
Is it gonna get better?
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Like that's there's help.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
On the way? Yeah, Overstone's coming, Rebel's coming.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Nick just said, this level times is about to just
show us something.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
What about like how much better can it get? Really? Honestly,
how much better do you think this defense can get?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Are they gonna acquire anybody?
Speaker 5 (24:24):
No without making a trade.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
No, And there's not a trade to make that's gonna help.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
You need.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
You need so much help. It's it's not funny. I
don't know.
Speaker 8 (24:31):
If you put a really talented, communicative linebacker in that middle,
it could solve a lot of issue. You couldn't solve
every issue, but it could solve a lot of issues.
My opinion, really my opinion, well.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
How come they don't have that guy? Is that important?
Speaker 8 (24:44):
Why don't they bad evaluating? Horrible evaluating in the off season.
I think there was a little bit too much trust
in certain people's eyes when building this defense. When you
look at Kenneth Murray, look at Jack Sanborn as being
your two bell cow linebackers.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Either one of those guys were good on their previous teams.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
And it makes an since why so why you thought here?
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Whoever made those decision?
Speaker 5 (25:03):
Thomas wasn't good on his last team either, But he's
played good here.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
He's played good here.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I give you that, But I don't know why you
thought those guys were gonna be good. Yeah, and you
can overachieve. See that's a pleasant surprise.
Speaker 6 (25:18):
But I don't you know, the days of the rocked up,
you know, stiff linebacker who can still fly downhill and
make plays. That's just over.
Speaker 8 (25:26):
And I think if you know, if we're talking late
two thousands, Kenneth Murray, Jack Sandborn, man, it'd be a
lot of fun. But we need them in space and
uh in this day and age, and you know this,
this this defense can't work with those two guys.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
And yet they might continue to play.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
And they continued to play.
Speaker 8 (25:42):
We saw we saw Marilia foul, you know, swap in
and out for Jack Sanborn, and we saw Shamar James
do the same in the fourth quarter and overtime. But yeah,
it's it's not much better that this. This team does
need overshown because they need a guy in space that's athletic.
They need a guy that can cover sideline a sideline
and he can bring that, but he can't do it
all himself.
Speaker 6 (25:59):
He can't be the and he's coming off of that too.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
And he can rush the passer when he's at his.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Best right, but he's not gonna be at his best.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
Then he's only going to play half the season.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
He'll be at his best next year, but this year
is just be you know, a body working his way back.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
Well, let me ask you.
Speaker 8 (26:14):
Let's see trade deadline November fourth, about a month away.
Let's say they are three and three and one. At
that point in time, offense is still cooking like it
has been these first four weeks.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
There's a linebacker out there on the block.
Speaker 8 (26:28):
Do you go and make that deal, knowing that you
might have to give up a fifth round pick, knowing that,
knowing you don't have a third round pick right now.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
I'd rather do a deal for Max Crosby.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
In that situation, we can't mention names, Eddie. People are
under contract. Okay, go ahead and stay with.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
That guy like Max Crosby. The injury report or a
big time pass Rusher, the guy like Trey Hendry.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
They're all giving away. Stop.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
I said like that. I didn't say that guy. I
said a guy.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Take a break right now. Nick and Ja just.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
Got fired on my day, Jack, We'll be back. Other
guys have gotten replaced on the right here while I'm
on that cut.
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Speaker 5 (29:45):
Oh that was only like.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
A I mean yeah, yeah, my gosh.
Speaker 8 (29:49):
This is under contract. Yes, this injury report. The only
difference from yesterday, and we talked about a lot of
the guys yesterday, was a guy added in Marshaw Neeland.
He was limited with an ankle. I will say I
saw Marshall Neyland in the locker room. He looked in good spirits.
So I don't know if it's uh, you know, something
to be super concerned about.
Speaker 6 (30:05):
But that was the only guy added.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
But Tyler, feelings aren't hurt, but something else is.
Speaker 8 (30:09):
Maybe maybe Tyler Booker, we did see him on the
courts today, but did not practice. Tyler Guyden still in
concussion protocol, Malie Hooker's not going to play, Ceedee Lamb's
probably not going to play. Miles Sanders still trending in
the wrong direction. Did not practice today. Tyler Smith did
not practice that still one. Cavante Turpin not expecting him
to play this weekend either, did not practice.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
So hees so because if Tyler doesn't play, said, you
could possibly have four different offensive I mean from your
starting group.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Malie Hooker not playing.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
So yeah, it's it's you start to look at this
and then going back and we talked yesterday about Ed
you weren't here, but the offensive line issues of all right,
Tyler Smith, Guidon your left side right here, What happens
if you don't have both of them? What happens if
if you have one or two of them and then
they get hurt in the game.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
Just your death is already on the field, thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
You're not talking about your third string somebody.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
It's like that T and T the who he is,
and Dak's already protecting himself more than any of the
five offensive linemen are pro anymore at least as well well.
Speaker 8 (31:09):
To think about it too, they only get those three
practice squad elevations. They are going to have to make
someone active on Sunday most likely who is not going
to be ready to play. I think about the Tyrone
Smith situation in Arizona a couple of years ago when
he was made active, but he was hurt and he
couldn't play, but they they may as well had him
on the active roster because you know, it is.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
What it is at that point. So it's it's going
to be tough reality.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
When losable game, you got to win very losible game.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Jets oh and four looking for their first win and
if that don't help, right, and then the week before
here are the Giants face face facing the Chargers at home,
and they get themselves at some point time.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
You know, the Jets aren't going over. Okay, they're not
going over.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
And we've seen the Cowboys like it was a JG
special back in twenty nineteen, went on up to the
medal lands got beat and they had they were missing
two tackles.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
The Jets are the fourth team to start zero to
four and have no takeaways. Of those previous teams. Every
one of them won the next game and had multiple takeaways.
Speaker 8 (32:14):
It's looking like a good trend. There's a lot of
things playing against this Cowboys team, not only the injuries.
This team doesn't play well on noon games on the road.
This Jets team has a scrambling quarterback. Like we mentioned,
there's just too many things working against this team. It's
a scary matchup. A pretty good run defense, pretty good
run defense, suspect passes.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
The team looking for a win and having watched tape, going,
we can get this one.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Yeah, Aaron Glenn's former team.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
Yeah, so Aaron Glenn had some pretty good numbers here.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Glenn was a good football player for the time.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
He's in TEXTAA team here with what Bill Parcels.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Yes, part of the five club friends of Bill, Yeah
Parcels the Parcels.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
Gay get five or six interceptions I think in eight starts.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Good player, Yeah, good player, good coach, you know good.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
And the Jets. He's a third Jets coach to start
ohing four. None of them have started on five.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
He'd be the first. Oh, I don't gamble.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
I don't need that.
Speaker 6 (33:11):
We don't do that on the show, right.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
I don't gamble or off the show.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
I don't gamble, but boy, if I worry degenerate, I'd
be taking.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
Some very You could be a degenerate not gamble.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
No, no, no.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
In other ways, wanting to a degenerate from what I understand.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
A gamble too much tostedos.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
I'm glad to know you don't gamble.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Yes, no, no.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
At my time in La served me well enough, and
then we used to go to Vegas all the time
for the fights, and so I got it all out
of I was young, got it all out of my
system to the point I'm good.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I'm good now.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
I'm watching Black Rabbit right now on Netflix, and it's
a great show. Yeah, it introduces that element of degenerate
gambling and the damaging effects of it.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
The one thing I'll always remember that was never bad
at it. I could, I had limits and it stop.
But I remembered one time it was I don't know,
maybe eleven forty.
Speaker 5 (34:05):
It was a long.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
Line walking through saying what's the line for? People were
standing in line to wait to get to the ATM
to get the next day's money back to the limit
like the limit, and then over by the ATM you're
seeing at this continue I saw it set deed office.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
You're not putting your crib up. So I said, man,
now that's the generate.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
These are the kind of like when you decide, you know,
I'm probably not going to do this anymore. Except I
didn't ever have a problem, but I was like, man,
these people got issues.
Speaker 6 (34:35):
Man, you know what's crazy.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
I was.
Speaker 8 (34:36):
I had to fly into Milwaukee for the Chicago game
because of all the weather and the travel delays in DFW.
So I flew into Milwaukee and I took an uber
down to Chicago and when we were coming down, right
at the state line, there was the rest area and
it was just packed this rest area and it was
pouring down rain. I was like, what are people doing.
They're not on the road right now, lot machines. And
what it was was it was Saturday and the night
(34:58):
games were about to start in college football. Those are
all those people at that rest area. Because in Illinois
you can do the Draft Kings and the underdogs of
the world, and the Wisconsin you can't. And my uber
Jarver is like, yeah, you will see that every every Saturday,
every Sunday, right right at the state limes, right at
that state line, He's like you you might even catch
(35:18):
it for the eleven PM Hawaii kickoff tonight, and uh yeah,
it's it's it's a real it's a real thing. Call
the hotline, all the hot line. If you're at a
rest area at five thirty pouring down rain in Chicago,
call the hot lie.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
That makes me think that's when somebody needs to take
the video is show it to the local, to the
state politicians like this is money that's leaving.
Speaker 6 (35:38):
That's true, that is very true.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
This is this is Wisconsin.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
Money is now the flip side. Let's take advantage of
this degenerate.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Yeah, we gotta go somewhere.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
That's that's the American in Texas.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
You're all going over here to Oklahoma and simple you
want you want to keep the money here.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
You know, build a fence, people build fence, keep your
tax dollars build right, we go leave on that note,
all right.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
Uh had I was chastised for saying this guy like.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
That, Hey man, league, ain't calling me about that Rams
niners tonight.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Who you got? It's the games of the Rams.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Now you gotta go with the with the Rams.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
Absolutely, the Rams. Given how injured the forty.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Nine, everybody said last year, everybody went with the Rams,
and the Rams are good except for the Stafford threw
for three seventy five last week.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
He a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
Yeah, I think he is. He won a super Bowl,
put up big numbers, survived Detroit.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
He's played himself into the Hall of Fay.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
With the Rams. He would not have been a Hall
of Famer without the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Ring he was out of my mouth.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
Yep, I agree, I agree.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
A bunch of gaudy numbers.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
He was the catcher for Clayton Kershaw at Highland Park
High School and both men are going to the Hall
of Fame. Clayton wi he's retiring after the season. So
what was.
Speaker 6 (36:53):
This on the contract?
Speaker 5 (36:54):
What was his caught stealing rate?
Speaker 4 (36:57):
I don't know. You know what with Clayton Kershot did
they get on? Oh that's true too, they even get on.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
That's why it's but it's a percentage, right, the percentage
of the guys who tried to steal, not the total
number of guys who succeeded. I just want the percentage.
Let's look that up.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
That's why you're the hole.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Let's have a research ed Nick Jack I'm newing for
producer Chris Being and everybody else here at Dallas Cowboys
dot com.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
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