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It is that time. Welcome to the Players Lounge.
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Speaker 4 (00:38):
We've got Nick Harris.
Speaker 6 (00:40):
Who you play for?
Speaker 7 (00:40):
Nick said?
Speaker 6 (00:42):
Players?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Did I said players? Medium?
Speaker 5 (00:44):
I played for the manon Jackson. We did players lines
last time. None of these guys players, Oh they're media members.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Oh another, Nicks are playing there.
Speaker 6 (00:53):
That's true.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
Let's let's got guys. Let's not do that any time exactly.
Too many of you guys out here doing damage to people.
Man thinking it's funny. Everybody knows this just the joke. No,
see see see that's not true. That's not true.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Yeah, I don't know. Nick niggas locked up.
Speaker 6 (01:13):
Never players got to retire because at.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
The game, Nick hung up his play a card ratefully,
she doesn't watch this show.
Speaker 7 (01:19):
I'm a phone call here about five.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Minutes exactly, I've had those phone calls.
Speaker 7 (01:24):
Actually, she's the type. I'll get a phone call in
like two hours. Stir on it, stimble. Oh, she's thinking,
now you're you're like to hear out the game. He's
been watching The Wire finally, finally, I'm behind.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
All of years late. But it's all good.
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We season one, season four, now season four, all right,
no spoilers just in case anyone out there.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
No, no, no, it's great, it's great.
Speaker 7 (01:46):
I just saw the scene where like the guy dies.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
That's the best TV show that I've seen, and the
Cops show better than that. I mean, it's incredible, incredible,
and it only gets better it does, it does. So
I'm glad for those of you I there who've never
watched The Wire.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Get on it.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Get on I was about to watch it third time.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
You can do that.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
I mean, it's four star Telegrams where Nick Harris works
one O five three, the fan is where my man
Bobby Belt works. Here Sean and r J show in
the morning, they've got the Jerry Jones Show.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Had that yesterday.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
The former Cowboy Beat writer author Jean Jacques Taylor, she
I'm merely new scrugs.
Speaker 8 (02:22):
Let's go back to you Scruggs. Come hey, hey, yeah,
new dog dot com legend.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
That don't do much for you, that fake Yes, this
is this is mister Emmy.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
He's only got like thirty of them.
Speaker 7 (02:36):
He's got so many that they gave him an honor
this last time. So Bobby honor.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Do the Clarence Hill things run people down?
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Let's stop hazy mister Jones on Tuesday?
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Is it over with the Micah?
Speaker 9 (02:57):
Now?
Speaker 4 (02:57):
In your opinion that we've moved on from this?
Speaker 8 (02:59):
Is it never we've moved on in the sense that
like the game's over. It does have a lingering air
of Jimmy to it a little not not quite, but
I mean it does have the feeling of like it'll
be one of those things that he'll talk about for
a really long time. For like, whenever it comes up
and there's something to say on it, he'll say something
that will make headlines because it'll be a little like, oh.
Speaker 7 (03:20):
Was that was that?
Speaker 8 (03:21):
Was that a shot? I can't tell. I guess you could.
You know, there's enough plausible deniability to say it's not.
But uh no, there's always the very fact that he
was like I don't really want to speak on it,
but I appreciate the pack I'll speak of it. I
love it because it's not like it's not like it's
one sided pettiness either. There's some petty that there's there's
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some pettiness, you know, in general, both of them.
Speaker 7 (03:43):
I like it.
Speaker 6 (03:44):
I like the storyline.
Speaker 8 (03:45):
I like that it'll probably be with us for the
rest of Cowboys Packers for at least the next five
six years.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
In the playoffs, did you really delete the phone number?
Speaker 8 (03:54):
I'm sure he can find it. I'm sure, I'm sure
he can get it. I've told a lot of people
leave their phone number. One I didn't.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
So no, you actually have to keep those numbers, so
you know not to pick up the phone.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Right, it's a.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Lot of names.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
You can just rename it now or block it.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
It's their thing.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
But yes, no, you have to keep numbers on the
supposed people you don't want. Because I said you may
not want that phone call. I get that all day long,
all day long. Here, treyvon Digg spoke today Cowboy's Corner.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Fascinating.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Yes, and so Nick. What I took away from it
is he'd love to go play man the man. He's
a man and man corner playing in zone and he's
had a conversation with the defensive coordinator, Matt Eberflus.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I ain't mad at him.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
You know he shouldn't be, because at the end of
the day, this man has made an All Pro and
he's made a living in this league playing man to man.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
More importantly, what you paid that man a boatload of
money to do a specific thing and now you're like, no,
don't do it. I mean we've had this discussion. Every
man corner is not good at zone, just like every
own corners and not I did it man.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Some the stars maybe maybe good at both.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
But you know, if you if a man is not
allowed to do what he does best, you really can't
moan and grown.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
If he's not performing up too.
Speaker 8 (05:12):
Far until you put him in man and he jams
a little too aggressively and.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
He slips and gives him then you can then you
can fuss, And you can fuss if he's not giving
effort in his own.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Or he don't like it.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Yeah, the best get beat m in the non best
can get beat too.
Speaker 8 (05:29):
Corners of volatable position. It isn't that long time.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
It is that nick, would you take from it?
Speaker 7 (05:33):
Yeah? The the big thing for me was him saying
that it was an off the field issue, that he
was the reason why he didn't start last Sunday against
the Packers. He respected Brian Schottenheimer's decision. Uh, he expects
to start this week. But I thought that was I
thought that was interesting. There's a lot of frustration on
that defensive side of the ball, and Schottenheimer had mentioned
throughout the first few weeks that there was no finger
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pointing that, you know, he he liked the accountability on
that side of the ball. I wonder if maybe something
went wrong in that department and that's why he didn't
draw the start. But we didn't see him in those
first two possessions, and he came out and he played
fifty three snaps. But you know, when you talk about
a guy that's already had some you know, back and
forth with the front office here in training camp, and
has an out on his contract next summer, you know,
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there's a lot of these things take These things take importance.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
So listening to you and and talking to other people,
do we think this is his final year of the Cowboys?
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Yes, Oh, I don't think he's any doubt about that.
Speaker 7 (06:29):
Yeah, I'd be I'd be shocked. He's somehow still around
next year.
Speaker 8 (06:33):
I think if he had not been rehabbing this offseason,
this we last year might have been his last. I
think that complicated some things.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
I thought once they paid dron Blaine, it was was
going to be writing on the wall.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
And he ain't dumb. He knowed it.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
True, true, true, But uh that because he you know,
the first contract was good contract. His rookie is rookie
deal performed very well. They paid him, which I thought
they should have paid him. I thought he earned a
payday here and it just did not go the way
it needed to go.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
So yeah, this is.
Speaker 8 (07:11):
Look when when Jerry was talking consistently during the Mica
stuff about you know, well when you pay somebody and
you know these things that you got away, it was
a very coded way, it felt like to me if
he was talking about Digs in a lot of ways
and the way that they felt about it.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
But I think that.
Speaker 8 (07:29):
It's just it's a I don't think anybody disagreed with
them paying him. What they paid him at the time
was considered a market discount from what he could have gotten.
And yeah, you look back at it in retrospect and
go like would you do that same deal today. Probably not,
but at the time everybody agreed with it, and it's
just it's one of those gambles that doesn't work out.
It's something that you didn't even feel was a gamble
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all the time. It's just one of those things that naturally,
across the course of the NFL some contracts will happen
like that don't work out the way you expect, and
you know at some point it'll probably need a fresh
start for everybody.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
I thought this was one of the deals they made
where you said, okay, that went in terren Steel, like, okay,
this is smart. This is a smart deal because, as
you said, you're getting out ahead of it. You're not
waiting till this guy goes the market and have to
pay you know, these crazy prices and what you've been paying.
Speaker 7 (08:13):
Can I disagree with Steele just because he was still
coming off the injury. Stell coming off the injury. He
wasn't he hadn't gotten back on the field yet. It
wasn't like he was going to be competing for top
dollar in the market. In my opinion at least, Skeain,
I just feel I want Tank.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
You know, you messed up on Tank, you messed up
on Lamb, you messed up on Dak at some point
in time. I mean, even if you're getting ahead on
a question mark, can you at least do that. That
was my thinking at the time. That's why I'll stay consistent.
I'll stay consistent there. And then obviously what's happened here
and there have been varying degrees of what people thought
about the deal, but I thought for them to try
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to get ahead, even like deron Bland right now, I thought,
you know, Corner, that's not having to go to the
market and you can get do it because we've just
seen them pay to overpay so much. I mean, I
still contend if you could have got Mike at thirty,
he'd be here, but they didn't get it done and
by the time he waited, price tag hit forty.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Well, I mean the price they don't ever go down.
I mean, it just doesn't.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
So if you decide you want somebody, you should just
move and go get him. But we've been saying that
for years, right right, So this is it.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
But back to Diggs and this being his last year,
you're committed to running a zone defense, you're paying a
man Corners just doesn't work.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
It just doesn't work. And I think if you digs,
you'd want to move on anyway.
Speaker 8 (09:37):
I you know, And it's funny, I would have so
much about Dixon's game feels like it fits a zone though,
like like you're talking about a guy who is not
the big time like speedster, like long speed athlete. You're
talking about a guy who loves to read the quarterback
and react. And it's a lot easier to react from
a zone that you're playing than it is to react
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man a man, because you jeopardize getting burned. And how
somebody get behind you and you've got all this area
you gotta cover. I mean, if you've got if you're
playing a zone, you can react within that zone and
just all right, I jumped, I missed. But even if
they get behind me, that's somebody's zone behind me, like
they're supposed to all that.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
So there's so much that should fit there.
Speaker 8 (10:12):
But the caveat there obviously is communication, which communication with
a lot of these guys in the secondary right now
has not been good, and then it hasn't been consistent,
and that's that's clearly been a problem.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Is this a situation where if you're the defensive coordinator.
This is my scheme, this is what we're going to do.
Should there be some flexibility at all here?
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Thoughts?
Speaker 6 (10:32):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Now, should always be flexibility.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I mean coaches, the best coaches, the best coaches, whether
they hate coaches and coordinators do what fit their scheme
around their players. Is not what I want to do.
But this is the personnel I got right now. Until
I get the personnel I want, I guess I'll do this.
Mike Zimmer did it for years. Zimmer had to do
it last year, had last year.
Speaker 8 (10:53):
Dan Quinn came here as a almost exclusively Cover three
defensive corner and they came here and played more man
than he ever had in his career.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Yeah, okay, So we'll see exactly what they do against
the New York Football Jets. Had a conversation with Kenny Clark,
and I just said, how much of this game or
game plan is similar to what you guys had to
do with Philadelphia. Philadelphia Saquon Barkley last year is Offensive
Player of the Year and nearly set an NFL record
and rushing with a quarterback like Jalen Hurts. So this
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week it's going to be priest haul the running back.
And then you've got Justin Fields who ripped off a
run for a long run for a touchdown against the
Millamie Dolphins.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
I said, how much is it similar? He said yes.
Sam Williams said the same thing here. So how do
you defend it?
Speaker 2 (11:33):
If you the cawpitals, I think you obviously you want
to try to spy him.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
The key with Spye, know is always what you get.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Your spy got to be as athletic or somewhat as
athletic as your quarterback, because if it's not, then don't
do no good. Because when he gets you an open field,
he's shake and bacon gumb So I think you have
to do that, and you have to mix it up,
give him some different looks. And then what do we
always talk about, Phyllis you got to stay in your
rush lanes man, Yes, you can't take the wide russe
lane's got to build to picket fence and if he
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does run, he's got to be in the middle where
you can converge of it.
Speaker 8 (12:08):
Look, it's what has it been four weeks here? For
already it's been it's been along four weeks. Defensively again,
I mean I said this a couple weeks ago. I'm
willing to give grace to somebody that they're still figuring
out their personnel and they're still trying to figure out, Okay,
does this require tough love or is this just not
something they're good at, Like, like, there are certain things
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that you don't learn until you get into game time
and you adjust from there. So Matti Reflutes is still
in this window to adjust to some things. If we're
we're four weeks down the line, though, and there's still
maybe some of the issues that you're seeing with the
linebacker core. If you're still seeing some of the stuff
of like kick, why is Donovan Wilson consistently the deep
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metal safety or alternating with Hooker when Hooker's healthy? Why
are you seeing something where Donovan Wilson has shown that
deep metal is not necessarily where he has had the
most success in his career. Can talk openly in the
press conference about Hey, James Houston, Yeah, he's earned more reps,
and then he's still pretty constantly playing between twenty to
twenty five for some of the snaps every single week.
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Those are the sort of things where it's like, all right,
there's a period to adjust, but there's also a period
of like those things need to start shifting pretty quickly
before we start saying is there any question of potential
stubbornness over here? And I understand if you're a coach
that you've been in the NFL for twenty five thirty
years and you got to a certain level because of
those concepts that you believe in, I understand it's hard
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to let go of them at times or hard to
adjust them and get them. But you also got to realize, like,
if you want to keep this job and others moving forward,
or an opportunity to progress moving forward, you're going to
need to show that you can adjust to these things too,
just like dan Quinn did.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
And then what happened.
Speaker 8 (13:48):
Dan Quinn got another crack at a head coaching job
where if he would have been committed to I'm playing
cover three, everything else be damned. You know, dan Quinn
is probably I don't think dan Quinn's the head coach
of the Washington at this point if that's what he
would have done.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
You know, the same thing goes with players. Why does
Trayvon Diggs reluctant to play zone because I made all
my money and got to this position doing what play
a man. I mean we've seen it before. I mean,
this happens, This is not unusual, and it's just.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
Two way street for sure.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (14:16):
Yeah, first injury report of the week if I could, yes,
okit through it Yeah, very loaded. Unfortunately for the Cowboys, Tylerton,
Tyler Guyton still in concussion protocol, Malie Hooker not expected
to go this week, did not practice today either. Obviously,
Cede Lamb and Tyler Booker not expected to go this
week at this point. These are the new additions. So
we got Miles Sanders dealing with a knee and an
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ankle did not practice today, Tyler Smith dealing with a
knee did not practice today, and Cavante Turpin dealing with
a foot, which I am gathering more info on it
sounds like it's going to be a couple of week issue,
did not practice today either. So yeah, lengthy, lengthy list.
Also Kenneth Murray limited with a knee issue. Those are
the only other notables.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
I guess you could say Turpin is a big deal, man.
Speaker 7 (14:58):
Turpin is a big deal, And you wonder, you know,
how does that play into a guy like Jayden Blue.
You know, is he a guy that maybe gets active
this week.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Finally, well what about Parish. You think they brought.
Speaker 7 (15:08):
Back Paris Campbell. Paris Campbell, that's I think that's probably
more insurance at this point, practice squad insurance. But they
have Jalen Cropper who they've used in return roles during
the preseason. When Turpin has either come out or and
now duce Fons not on the team anymore, so i'd
be looking at Cropper, I'd be looking at Jalen Tolbert
(15:29):
and Jaden Blue because Miles Sanders has been the back
of returner so if he can't go either, that's yet
another guy that's.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
An underrated deal to me because so much of punt
return and now with new kick return rules, he's just
decision making, you know, like do you catch it? Do
you run up and have the confidence to catch it
as you let it bounce and lose twenty yards? And
when Turpin's back there, you don't really even think about it.
You just outside of okay, it's eight yards deep. Will
he take it out or will he just stay?
Speaker 6 (15:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (15:55):
Was this past week was good and they returning. They
were heading into this game against the Packers, they were third,
second in the NFL and starting field position on average,
and so they were still trying to kind of figure
some things out. But if you want to talk about
what Turpin does in terms of his like kind of
a gadget player in the run game, somebody who's like,
you know what he does as a receiver, as a returner,
as a speed threat. He's the fastest guy they have.
(16:16):
If you're talking about all those things you need fill,
to me, the easiest fill for that is Jadan Blue
on like all of those levels. That sounds like Jayden
Blue to me. Those things that you need.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
To get covered, well, Junior Adams didn't work as a
receivers coach. Boy, wow wow wow wow wow wow. So
have no Turpin here. Tolbert showed us a lot Mingo. Okay,
Jonathan Mingo could be, uh could be be a guy
to look at.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Let's take a break.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Let's get into Mingo here now, just looking at the
injury report, Nick Nick cat here, let's come back into that.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
The Cowboys put it out here, but what do they do?
Is Jayden Blue really a thought process here?
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Got beat? All right, Nick, you just rolled off the
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injury report here, so go back to Turpin. What's the
exact injury we have on mister Turpin here? And if
Turp can't go, that means the Cowboys are gonna have
to rely on George Pickens as their number one guy.
And you've got Jayalen Tolbert who showed us some fantastic
footwork in the Sunday night game against Green Bay. We
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see Jonathan Mingo's practice window open up here? Is that
the solution right now? Thinking in terms if Turp can't go,
that Mingo is your He's who you bring in here.
And now I know what Bobby Mitch, Jay and Blue.
But James, here's a running back here. So how do
we port parts this year?
Speaker 10 (20:12):
Yees?
Speaker 7 (20:13):
So, looking at it from Turpin's perspective, from the injury,
it looks like a couple of week type issue, dealing
with an issue very similar to what Deron Bland just
went through, uh here in the beginning of the season.
So and you know, with his speed, that's that's obviously
going to take a lot of importance. Mingo, Yeah, they
could factor him into the equation, and I think his
ramp up has already begun with conditioning and everything. Now
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it's just about getting on the field and getting it,
you know, mentally right. But don't discount Jalen Cropper to
be the guy that kind of takes over Turpin's role.
Very similar build, very similar play style, very similar speed.
They trust Cropper a lot. I've said it many times,
this is a this is a guy that if he
would be on any other team, most offenses would be
able to find a way to get him on the field.
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But when you're backing up Cavante Turpin, a guy who
is better than you at what you do best, it's
fortunate that you just can't get on the field. So
this might be the opportunity for Cropper to get on
the field, and not only on offense, but in the
return game as well.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
That was the important thing there.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Talking about the return game, Okay, who's gonna return punts
and kickoffs here? Cavante Truppin is out.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
My bet would be Jayden Blue. Okay, because Miles Sanders
is typically the backup Miles Sanders, They're not even going
to try to run him out there until Friday's practice.
So I mean it's you're already working up against time
with Miles Sanders, Jalen Tolbert. They throw him back there
for some return opportunities, but at this point you even
risked another receiver getting getting hurt. So yeah, I'd be
looking at Jaden Blue and Jalen Cropper right now.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
So mister Blue, we've been waiting for him. He been
waiting for opportunity.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
It's been an interesting thing amongst the media. Some people
have been very adamant about seeing mister Blue, and some
other people kind of been like, okay, but.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
All right, So, I mean I think people are intrigued
bad speed.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
You know, speed helps and then but it doesn't help
if you if you don't know what you're supposed to
be doing.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
Well when you talk about the return game, and that's
been an area well overall, special team has been an
area where the Cowboys unit has been able to win consistently,
and without an all Pro like Camante Turpin.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
That stuff matters.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
And you're going to gett a Jets team and I
know they haven't won a game this year, but you're
at home.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Nick.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
You talked about how the Cowboys like to go star
sluggish out there. And I can't remember what year it
was when Jason Garrett was coaching, They're facing the Jets.
The Jets were bad, somehow ended up being a CBS
Game of the Week with Nancy Romo and j nineteen.
It was a Jason, it was a JG. Specials went
out there, laid down. I don't think they had the tackles.
The tackles that game.
Speaker 8 (22:37):
I was a Mary Cooper played three snaps and was like, yep,
I'm done today.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
That was That was.
Speaker 8 (22:41):
That was a fascinating year. Twenty nineteen though, Sam Darnold
just whooping you right off of mono and enlarged spleen.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
H Yeah, yeah, it was. It was bad. So so
when I think about the Jets and I'm like, you.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Know, I get man.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
The defense keeps everybody in the game. So they five
hundred yards. I mean, the Jets got almost five hundred
yards last week, so they're capable. Man, in this sad
era of defense, I.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
Can't even debate you push back, you're right, You're right,
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Like this, they got a chance when they have.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
You know, three months ago, we go, oh, there's a
dove right there with the Jets. You keep it moving,
And now it's like, oh, we thought defense might be challenged,
but we didn't think you'd be like this. And the
problem is you just keep everybody in the game no
matter as we've seen, no matter what the offense does,
you're in the game because the defense is beforemed poorly.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
It's a week to week league.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
And when you start adding into some of these injuries,
here's a challenge. And then oh, by the way, you're
left tackle star left tackle Tyler Geyton.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
What's the latest there.
Speaker 7 (23:46):
In concussion protocol? Still he's got to be able to
pass through it, Shotnheimer said on Monday, is gonna have
a chance to go on Sunday, but that concussion protocol.
You know, the league does not play when it comes
when it comes to that. So if he can't go,
it's going to be Nate Thomas. That's gonna be three
starters up run you're down.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
So he don't really want Tyler going on a week
where he had and practice.
Speaker 7 (24:06):
That's a fair point.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
I'm serious.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
I'm not even taking a shut like.
Speaker 7 (24:09):
He's already going on a season he didn't have camp, right.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
He's you know, he's serviceable when you got a week
full of practice and study and all his other stuff.
Speaker 8 (24:17):
I mean, this is this is rough because you've got,
like Nick was just saying, you've already got two starters
down on the offensive line. Three if Guyton can't go,
Tyler Smith's on that injury report, Like you've got that's
your entire offensive line right there. You've got your backup
running back out. You're missing Ceedee Lamb, and you're gonna
be missing the guy who's essentially functioned as your third
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receiver and and some of the stuff that you like
to do and gadget plays, which all just again speaks
to how incredible Dak's played these first four weeks of
the season, and and the level that he's playing at
right now, because I think in years past, three years ago,
Dak playing under these circumstances, those are gonna that that
game against Green Bay would have looked a lot more difficult,
would have looked a lot rougher. But he's he's kind
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of at that answers to the test age of his career,
and he's he's playing ridiculous football.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
So that's all bad news.
Speaker 8 (25:08):
But also similarly, it's it doesn't seem it doesn't strike
as much initial panic, I feel like as it has
in your past, because it is a little bit like
I feel like right now, the way Dak's playing, You're like,
he's he'll find a way.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
He's he's going to adjust.
Speaker 8 (25:21):
However, that means if he's got to get the ball
out quicker, he'll get it out quicker, and he'll get
it out accurate and they'll be able to.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Move the ball.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
I think it also helps he's got a little bit
of a running game this year from the rip off the.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
Rip Jamonte is a physical guy and they really did hit.
I know they take a lot of chances each year.
We're trying to just sign guys to one year deals here.
That has been a fantastic deal right there. Some of
them not so much.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
I mean, you know, you shot up in the bargain
basely being most of the time you pull out which
you speed.
Speaker 8 (25:49):
This year, they this is one of the Yeah, this
is one of their better hits they've had in a
long long time. I'm the last guy I can think
of who who came in contributed had an impact as
a leader and different things like that this quick as
a bargain Ben got with jay Ron Curse was that
way a few years back. That Curse was a guy
who came in played really well fitting the dan Quinn's
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scheme was like immediately a leader with that side of
the ball, Like that's kind of what Jante went has been.
But you don't get those very often. And and I mean,
this is this is a big hit for them for sure, man.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Right now.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
And then when you go to that that store of
your choice and you go to the clearance rack, you
gonna find a little something something.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
Oh yeah, no, no, man, It's.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Like when you go to the Dollar Spice Record Wildmark
man and you find some limon pepper in there.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
At Tom Thump, Tom Thumb, I don't know nothing.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
About the dollars the dollar bid not know.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
I'll tell you what. There's certain things I don't mess with.
The spices.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
You know you're not a spice guy.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
No, No, I love you.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
He's not gonna play on him. Yeah, he's he's.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
Trying to go finds on clearance. And then I look
at the bottom and it said it would expire last
month or I got two days or two weeks to
use it. No, I just mean you need to cook
chicken right then, weeks.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
That pre marinated rub My boy.
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Speaker 5 (27:10):
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Speaker 4 (27:20):
I made a he likes steak topping, the little blue
cheese steak.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
Topping, special pit Master of the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
He is that.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
That's why I can go ahead say that we know
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And so at the end of it is like add
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Speaker 4 (27:38):
Popping popping.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
So made it from my folks everybody like my kids
that got you know how you have when you have
multiple children's multiple everybody but Spice. You know, I I
or what I am all about to meet your spike
down and that was you know, hey made it mad.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
I look good.
Speaker 7 (27:57):
Happy for you.
Speaker 8 (27:57):
I will though, the hand up on the fact that,
like I know, during the off season programs, it's like
that watching Javona Williams.
Speaker 6 (28:03):
I was like, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 8 (28:06):
And then and then when you watch him out there,
that's a guy who his impact has not felt till
the pads are on and he's out there playing football
and and he's a he is a that is a
football player. That's the kind of guy that what he
brings in terms of the demeanor on the field, the toughness,
the way that he runs, the way that he plays
a game. That's a guy that every Super Bowl winner
for every year that's existed, there's somebody on every football
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team that's like Javonte Williams. Dream you have to have
somebody like that on.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
A Super Bowl dream field.
Speaker 7 (28:33):
Baby, he's got a lot of Marion Barbara and him
physical on the field, you know, quiet off the field,
and yeah, you'll you'll feel him on Sundays, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
The injuries are behind him.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
He now looks like he did at Carolina, and when
you're like, okay, there's a running back, there's a guy
that can help you in.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Not just running.
Speaker 6 (28:50):
But that's one of the best.
Speaker 8 (28:51):
This game against Screen Bay was one of the best
pass protecting games I've seen from am back here in
a long long time.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
And so you know, we come back and we come back.
How Schottenheimer says he he made a mistake in not
using Javonte Williams for something. We'll dive into that next.
Nick Bobby JJT I'm new, he scuts.
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Speaker 4 (31:46):
Now Here.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
My meat church spice, and one is Blanco can do everything.
My number two is Holy Voodoo I've heard of that.
Holy Voodoos also got a little of that dried jalapeno
in there, So it is I.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
May don't know kick pastic fresh opinions.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
So one of the things I like doing is if
I'm making a guacamole, I'm gonna add that onto my
guak in there. Mix that in there, scrambled eggs. You
like scrambled eggs, You're like an olive. Mix that stuff
in there.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Boom. It's a fantastic pop. Now it's not one of
those overpowering like, oh I got it in there, a
little heat, It's it's perfect.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
So absolutely, if you're making your ke sell boom, add
it in there for your kesee so blanco, Holy Voodoo,
and then of course holy cow, just because you know,
just because you can't go wrong. Some people may do
the honeyhog. Now a honeyhog bacon. That's tight. If you're
gonna do some ribs, honeyhog bacon, I highly recommend so.
But havn't done ribs in a minute, but that that
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honeyhog honeyhog barbecue.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
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Speaker 4 (32:48):
I won't be here. I'm not gonna be here.
Speaker 7 (32:51):
I ain't gonna be here.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
I ain't gonna be here. I ain't gonna be here.
All right, Bobby, what do you have here? Some information?
Speaker 9 (32:57):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (32:57):
Yeah, So I mean I was not I'd come down here.
I missed the schedule from Beamer, so I got down
here a little earlier than Diggs was talking. But I
did just see from one Calvin Watkins, Calvin saying that
Tyler Smith said that he actually had an MRI on
his right leg and he hopes to play on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Oh okay, so.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
Boy, if they run.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
Out there for Star, who's the left guard for the Cowboys?
Speaker 4 (33:28):
If Tyler Smith cannot go?
Speaker 7 (33:29):
Here's what I'm thinking. You moved TJ. Bass to left guard,
Hakeema Dnergy, you slide the right guard. You also have
Trevor Keegan. That's an option for you who can play
on either side, left guard, right guard. But that's probably
what you'd be looking at. You wish you had awesome
Richard's right above now.
Speaker 8 (33:46):
And then you have like a priest come in and
just like say a blessing or something, try to drive
out the evil spirit causing injury to your offensive line.
Speaker 7 (33:53):
There's a reality where Terrence Steele is the only starting
offensive lineman playing on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Call Lil Collins, why are you doing this? I'm sorry,
why are you laughing?
Speaker 3 (34:05):
He's probably in the bass boat somewhere, Matt Layer when
you need them. Wow, Probably.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
I'll play back in the day Clarence song there, you know,
back in the day part custom back. You know, Parcels
would have spies everywhere, man everywhere everywhere.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Parcels had uh they they they spent so much A
faction of the team and the coaching staff spend so
much time at strip clubs.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
No matter what Parcels wanted.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
That real talk, that's probably your gig was go over
there and hang out because that's where they were.
Speaker 7 (34:46):
Just go on, no, baby, it's a work meeting.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
But for real, it lasted for about a couple of years.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
Like the intense party find dance dollars and.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
I mean I walked through one coach.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Went I I'm like, oh no here, you didn't see me.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
That's okay. Let's talk. Get a man of left dance.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
You get all kind of nuggies, Amber, give us a minute.
We gotta talk.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Claires. Claires has many stories. Rule your.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
Okay, so right here on the media Master, Taylor, Bobby Bell,
Nick car Stewy scrug here an MRI for Tyler Smith.
Then he says he hopes he can play. So the
Dallas Cowboys, as you're saying here, could go and face
the New York Jets, a team that's over that people
are thinking to themselves as an old and for New
York Jets team, you're gonna have a compromise offensive line here.
This is a challenge. And then of course it's who's
(35:45):
backing up along that way? Wow, Wow, takes guys. Tyler
got in your left tackle and concussion protocol, protocol, your
left guard.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
Uh, Tyler Smith is.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
Hopefully hopeful you're starting centers already out Cooper b B.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
So he got brought coffin there, and he got TJ.
Speaker 5 (36:02):
Bass, who's filling in for Tyler Booker, your first round
draft pick who's going to be out this week. And
now I got young Terror Steel who's the last man standing.
Speaker 7 (36:10):
Right, not so young anymore.
Speaker 8 (36:11):
And they're blocking things up to give you enough time
to throw to, not Cavante Turpin, not CD Lamb.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
Right, And so that means Javonte Williams could be spending
some time blocking as well. So let me get back
to that one story there. At the end of the
press conference yesterday, I asked or Monday, I asked Shoddy
about Jake Ferguson and he had duties to block Michaeh
Parsons on that play when Parsons caught Dak and they
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called it a sack, and I said, did he miss
the block? And Shi just kind of said, that's a
tough assignment.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
It should never be a sign.
Speaker 5 (36:48):
And he said, I didn't do him any favors. I
should have had Javonte helping him there. And we're talking
about Davonte who was helping in the block game. So
I just believe and it's just my opinion. One half
a second more, Dak Prescott scores walks in the end
zone and we're talking about.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
A win and not a tie.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
I don't know if he gets in I have to
look at to take.
Speaker 8 (37:09):
He had take a shot at the end. He was
he was gonna take a shot. It was just going
to be a question of when there was a collision
at about the two yard line, who was going to
win because there there I don't remember it was maybe
in kway Walker, remember somebody somebody was crashing down and
there was going to be a collision.
Speaker 6 (37:22):
It's just a matter of right, who was going to
win that?
Speaker 11 (37:24):
Right?
Speaker 4 (37:24):
Is the game I mean about to see? Is the
game right there?
Speaker 5 (37:27):
Maybe maybe Dak does a John Elway helicopter spin and
gets in there, but it's for the game right here.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
That's that was just my opinion. But yeah, oh well,
I think.
Speaker 8 (37:37):
I think early on one of my impressions of Shot
is he's that that meme of the person standing with
all the arrows going under their back protected that he
will h he will, he will take it for the
for a lot of the players. It feels like he'll
he'll he'll take on a lot of responsibility for things
that sometimes I wonder which which is good. I think
(37:58):
it's good. It's not a critique at all. And I'm
saying he is he is not uncomfortable just saying I
can shoulder.
Speaker 6 (38:03):
I'll take it.
Speaker 5 (38:03):
It's on me, And I think it's one of those
where you build up, Okay, I'll take it until you
don't do your part. Then I'm just gonna go out
here and tell the truth. Yeah, I thought when.
Speaker 8 (38:13):
I'll cover for you, Yeah you snuck out, you got
back late. Yeah, I'll like there, I'll cover for you. Yeah,
it was my fault three four times. Now Mom and
Daddy they're gonna find out. You got to talk to them.
But yeah, you you build up that trust.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (38:26):
Also on the on the flip side though, having the
I guess accountability to keep Trayvon Diggs accountable too, and
you know, put your money where your mouth is when
it comes to discipline and things like that, because he's
pretty set all off season. So that's that's interesting to
see him actually you know, follow through with that. That's
what it does. It really does.
Speaker 5 (38:44):
And Dig said, I knew Thursday m what was going
to happen, so he he had ample toode. They had
the conversation, told him amply. He didn't obviously shiny and
telling any of us. So okay, and then so next
time you have the opportunity need to talk to him,
and got an opportunity to say, hey, okay.
Speaker 8 (38:59):
I think they're all of Shotty's culture marks and everything
else that he's tried to establish. I think he's got
passing grades on through a month. I think all of
that's been I don't think it's come across as you know,
just talk and I think he's executed it so far.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
And the play caller, for me, that's the biggest play call.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
That's the biggest thing that I'm surprised by by Brian
Schotheimer's how good of.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
A play caller he has been this year.
Speaker 7 (39:24):
Had been perfect, but he's been great.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
I mean, ain't nobody gonna be perfect?
Speaker 10 (39:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (39:28):
Yeah, Oh.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
Somebody asked this, is he better than Kellen Moore?
Speaker 5 (39:31):
Yes, because that's my opinion, which I was based off
the Jets experience and what was going.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
On in Seattle.
Speaker 5 (39:40):
I said, I don't know, but to me, he's better
than Kellen Moore. And I am also a fan of
the fact that the man is committed to running football,
and that's something that I think too many times the
Cowboys gotten away from way too early with Mike and
Kellen is getting away from running the ball, and you
had Dak with a whole bunch of numbers where he
was throwing way too much.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
To my opinion, I think he's been good, really good
the first month.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
But I'm always a.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Six week guy because six weeks is a good amount
of tape. Now all your tendencies are out there, and
then we'll see what the Coy natives do, and then
whether you can adjust, do they adjust well?
Speaker 3 (40:17):
But the start has been I.
Speaker 8 (40:19):
Think he's been a good play caller. I think I
do think Kellen Moore endured a decent amount of slander
leaving here. I thought Kellen Moore was pretty good given
everything that he was operating under, including a head coach
who I think was not necessarily always driving with his ideas,
and then you were having to pacify some of that
and balance it, and it caused a lot of issues.
(40:40):
But I think that Schottenheimer is a really good play caller,
and I think he knows Dax so well, and that's
such a big boost.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
I think it's I think all of that is true,
and I think perhaps everybody's on the same page, Like
everybody's down with the offense, is not McCarthy like, well,
I guess we'll run this and we'll run there.
Speaker 8 (41:01):
It's just like anything, Jock, It's just like anything I
go back to, I just like anything.
Speaker 5 (41:07):
I always felt that the Kellen Moore Mike McCarthy thing
was a shotgun marriage. It always you think it was,
And I just nevergot why would you hire a super
Bowl winning coach who call plays and then tell him
take Kelly Moore.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
Because that's what they do. That's what that's the approach
around here. Man.
Speaker 4 (41:25):
And then when he was like, oh he was the guy,
the first guy was going hire Kellen morn.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Why would you ever hire an offensive coordinator before you
had a head coach?
Speaker 8 (41:34):
Three years to think about it still came out running
slant flats happened jump.
Speaker 4 (41:37):
For five years happened before.
Speaker 7 (41:39):
Why would you hire a defensive coordinator before you hire
a head coach?
Speaker 2 (41:41):
I mean, this is what they do, so you know,
so it's just what they do.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
So isn't it. You know, it's not It's just what
it is.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
Wait, it depress me.
Speaker 6 (41:54):
I have a lot of thoughts on this topic. But well,
let's hear some of them next. Heard all of them
at the bar for hours.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
The listeners ain't hurt him over a beer.
Speaker 6 (42:04):
He was about to throw me in the water in Chicago.
Speaker 7 (42:05):
I really it's like, if you say McCarthy's name one,
I'm walking out.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
McCarthy is nothing.
Speaker 6 (42:12):
Well, I mean the fifties. There's a lot wrong with it.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
My bad, but I tried to get you.
Speaker 7 (42:18):
This man has strong opinions.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
You know. Bless Mike wherever he is right now.
Speaker 6 (42:25):
I'm never wrong. I'm just I'm just not right yet.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
He in Green Bay man drawing up plays, waiting for
his next opportunity.
Speaker 7 (42:31):
He's actually here. He's actually here. In all, he's still staying,
him and his daughter here because the daughter is going
to volleyball. Yeah, but the rest of the family has
gone back to Wisconsin. They're going to join them here
pretty soon.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
So you're a national championship volleyball team, right.
Speaker 7 (42:46):
Something like that.
Speaker 5 (42:47):
He look, the volleyball here is good. This is a
fantastic if you're a high school volleyball player. This is
the place to be. A shout out to our boy.
Marcus Spears. His daughter Texas doing doing her thing thing,
and his son is the number one basket all.
Speaker 4 (43:00):
Recruiting the country. Man, he did well. You know that
whatever he drinking and eating over there.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
Man, we know his wife was a star athlete too,
she was.
Speaker 4 (43:07):
Man doing it up right, is doing it right?
Speaker 6 (43:10):
You know?
Speaker 5 (43:10):
Good on him, Good on him. Jacque Taylor, Thank you,
Bobby Bell. Keep keep hope a lot.
Speaker 6 (43:16):
I'm going to keep hope a lot.
Speaker 5 (43:18):
Nick appreciate you. Make sure you're reading with telegram makes
you listening. One through the fan. Jacqu's got a new book.
He can't tell you about it, but he's been working
on it. I know he's been doing massive interviews all
the time. He can't wait to read it. I will
get a free copy on the discruction. Thanks to Paul
who was engineering today and being our producer taking every media.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
Master will talk to you tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
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