October 21, 2025 • 43 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Now your host New He scrugs.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Media Match time right here from the Star in fris Sco. Hi.
Everybody on New He scrugs, along with my man Bobby
Belt one oh five three, the fan Cowboy insider. We've
got Jean Jaques Taylor, former Cowboy Beat writer and the
author here as we begin this show. Playing in the
background here is NFL Network and they've got the uh
Houston Texans and Seattle Seahawks money and that game on
(00:48):
for last night. And I just see the Houston Texas
at quarterback c er A CJ. Strouder. He just makes
it you realize, hey, baby, this league can turn in
a minute. Because after his rookie season, it looked like, gosh, yeah,
it was a stop. The star was high like RG
three rookies.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Stars.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Now you look at ooh, you know he's he's odd too,
Because like RG three, I think a lot of people
felt like and I can see the come down. Like
certain quarterbacks they see me, You're like, I can envision
a scenario where they take a step back. Stroud was
not that guy. The first year you saw Stroud play,
it was like, well that's just only looks to be
going up.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Well, look, this is an interesting thing about the league.
And I bring that up talking about CJ. Strout. They
thought they had the answer. They don't. And over here
with the Dallas Cowboys, you know, nor what the forty five,
their quarterback is getting it done. And Bobby, you take
a lot of phone calls and a lot of text
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over THET one to five three of the fan and
there's a whole bunch of DAK haters out there, the
people who are consistently upset. That group is pretty quiet
right now because rain DeKota Prescott is playing at another level.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Yeah, I mean, the only thing you have from a
dark critic right now is will tell me in January
come to come talk.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
To me in January.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Yeah, you'll get that one to it, But comes talk
to me in January when the playoffs matter. That's that's
when he's gonna crumble. That's the kind of stuff that
you're getting right now. But yeah, I mean it's really
hard to say anything negative about the way he's playing
football right now because he's playing it at such a
high level and in a way that is masking some
other issues, like, for instance, the past protection has not
been perfect for them and in previous years, Dak's probably
(02:27):
getting sacked five six more times this season than he
has been already. Uh So, I mean, you're you're seeing
him performing at such a high elite mental processing level
that you know it's able to cover over a lot
of other people's shortcomings. And that's what makes this offense
so dangerous right now.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
And what he does in process he's running away from
like even the other day on the third and seventy
runs makes a guy miss, runs over another guy, gets
the seven yards for a first end sets at Ferguson touchdown.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
When they go to the hurry.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yet you hadn't seen it lately. Bro One thing I
can also say, I think it's being overlooked and not
talked about enough is the center. Cooper BB's not there.
Brock Hoffman is a nice player, but Cooper BB's window
is starting to open up here and getting back a
starting center along with an offensive line it's pretty much
been compromise since since after the first game. To be
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able to do this is something that is not talked
about enough because obviously people don't pay attention to the
offensive line play as much as we do because we
cover it.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Yeah, but it matters.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
In this league. And when he can get back the
full set of offensive linemen, I'll be very curious to
see what it is they can do.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
They I had somebody around the league tell me once
they said we have more in terms of the necessary
number that you need that. They said, we have more
quarterbacks in the NFL than we do offensive linemen in
terms of just if you need one in a backup.
We can fill those holes around the league easier than
we can fill five starting offensive linemen and three backups,
three to four backups. Because it's just such a talent
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starved position. You got a lot of guys out there
who are just kind of thrown out that that's what
was so and it feels like and uh, it feels
like an over cell to use the sword. But that's
what was so amazing about what they did a couple
weeks ago with four backup offensive lineman walking in there,
and the fact that they continue to manage things. I mean,
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Dak's getting sacked at the lowest rate of his career
right now without really having played with his offensive line
the entire season.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Check it out, though, what do we often said about
sex they're really a quarterbacks?
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Yeah, who's getting rid of the balls?
Speaker 5 (04:27):
So he's now Okay, if it's not there, I'll check
it down, I can move, I can get rid of it.
And so I think that plays a role into why
is not getting sicked as much. Yeah, you look at
he's in the metrics. Baby.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
You look at quarterbacks like Tom Brady and Peyton Manning
in their careers and got to a point time where
these guys just wouldn't let you get to him. Yeah,
I'll throw it. I'll throw it right in the ground.
I'm gonna throw it over. I mean, they were just
they were hard to get to. They were hard to
get to, and Dak Prescott is there right now. And
also give the play call of Brian Schotenheimer credit because
these two are on the same page of what needs
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to get done and Shoddy when he took the job,
set We're going to run the football, and they're running
the football. You look at what they did against Washington.
It was very even run past ratio. I go back
to when Tony Rummel had his I thought, his best
year with the Cowboys, and that was when Demarcomorro was
the NFL Offensive Player of the Year because they were
able to get a run a pass run ratio that worked.
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Because anytime Tony was throwing the ball forty fifty times,
it just wasn't good. That's really almost any quarterback in
this league. You just don't want to throw on the
ball that high in terms of that many times because
you're gonna make a mistake along the way.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
And then their ability to run the ball has done
what It's made the red zone offense so much more
productive because not only can you run it in now
all your play actions work, which means Jake Ferguson is
scoring touchdowns at the rapid rate.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
So what Carolina did, So Carolina just brought the safety
down and you know, now with Ceedee lamdback in there,
you couldn't you couldn't do what Carolina did the week before,
and it opens up so much and we saw Javonte
Williams have a much better game.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Yeah, you also play I think you played better in
the trade, Carolina beat you up. Yes, on the interior,
they they were they were that was a team that
was ready to come in there and punch in the mouth,
and they didn't respond the right way and that physicality
really was tough for them. But you know, we talked
about it earlier today on the station. We were going to
the subject of like what Stephen Jones says that there's
another level the offense can reach. It's like, Okay, well,
(06:21):
what can they do better? And when you start looking
at it other than the pass protection, which you feel
like will come around when some of these injuries clean up,
then you're really looking at can I get Jayden Blue
to be a nice change of paceback to compliment Javonte Williams.
Can I lessen some penalties? Can I start hitting seam
routes to Titans? It's stuff that feels very narrow and
almost nitpicky at times because they are just playing as
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a unit.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
So, well, can your tight ends hold some blocks better?
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Yeah, that's that's a big thing. Tight ends blocking better?
And again that Dak one of his favorite throws his
entire career has been the seam throat of the tight end,
and that's one of the ones that he's he's been
really good at. They threw it a ton out here
during the off season and during training camp, and then
what you're getting is once the season is it is
there have been five or six times where they've tried
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to hit it and it's just been a little off
or somebody hasn't finished the play. They finally hit one
against Carolina with ferg for the touchdown, but for the
most part, that's one of those things that they're still
working on. But again, that feels like something that has
been such muscle memory for Dak in the past that
you're like, well, that's gonna come around at some point,
and you feel like Jayden Blue is gonna start contributing
at a higher level at some point. It just it
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feels really difficult to stop this offense right now.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
So we'll talk about jay Blue, the rookie from Texas.
I have to remind fans it's a different level, and
not to say that Jayden Blue by any means can't
adjust to it, but there's a learning curve for some people.
Some folks it's not I mean, he's Javante's really playing
at a high level. And then some people think, oh,
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just especially because their numbers are so close to twenty two,
twenty three and thirty three. Like, it's going to be
a learning curve for him here and it may take
a little bit. I still think the players good player
and they made a good pick. But Javonte comes out
and he comes in right now, it's a little bit
of a difference between he and Miles Sanders, and it's
just experience.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
But a learning curve should be to me on you know,
pass protection and stuff like that. But running back is
the most instinctive position in the game you could put
any I remember this man back to my kids flag
football days. They having their first day of tryals and
everybody's doing their thing. You go, oh, there's a quarterback
because that dude can throw the ball, and by five
players like, oh, there's a running back because he got
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a fluidity to him. And running backs is just natural.
That's why you can see freshman running backs playing on
the varsity. That's why you can see freshman running backs
show up in college. And that's why you can see
freshman running back rookie running back who are bad asses
show up in the NFL. Now, some guys might have
a learning curve, but Jared Rice had learning cur trop
Palomo I had learning curve. They learned, they learned, and
if you're a good player, you'll learn.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I said running backs.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
I didn't say the mother because running back is just
everybody knows.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
It's the easiest position when you tackle.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
There's always one cat up there that you can't ever
tackle and don't matter when you started playing. That's all
I'm saying for running backs is instinctive. All the spots
I get.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
You, I will say there's the stuff that's more than
just instinct that maybe you got to learn a little bit.
When Opening Night, when Miles Sanders breaks off that big
run where he got tackled short and they fumbled a
couple plays later, that's a good example of a veteran
knowing to like knowing how to set up the block
and how to run behind it and run with patients
and then hit the whole Jayden Blue probably gets tackled
for a two yard game on that play, even though
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he's a faster player.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
I also think one of the other things that people
got to remember, and I like the Jayden Blue pick.
Jade Blue was a fifth round pick. Jane Blue was
a running back at the University of Texas who never
won the job at Texas. Jane Blue is running back
who had fumbling problems there and also had some times
where he had to fall into a rhythm. So I
mean this is I think it's important that, yeah, that
people put some contexts out of a fifth round pick
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who was splitting carries at Texas and didn't even own
the job there. And so there's going to be a
little bit of like, all right, we're trying to develop
a guy here.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Because let me tell you, I have zero It doesn't
matter what year you draft.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
I have zero expectations for anybody taking after the fourth round.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
We know they are whatever they are. I know you've
said it many times and.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
I keep saying say that to Jay Rowlan.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Hey, that don't mean you can't be a bad dude.
It's just means I have no expectations for.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
You, which I think is fair.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
I think it's like I got expectations for first and
second round picks like Marsha and Neelan where you at
dough Like second round picks I got. I got expectations. Yeah, first,
I mean after the fifth round. I don't first through four.
I have a level of expectations. Sam, where you at,
Sam Williams, Sam Waie, whit you at?
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Doe?
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Well, with flags thrown, that's usually.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Neland I'll say you mentioned Nland there. Neeland has been
one that I think has been disappointing for them because
they feel like, not only did he have a positive offseason,
but he came to the year healthy. He was somebody
that they felt like was developing some of the tools
they wanted to see. First game against Philly, he was
arguably your best defensive lineman and so it was like
(11:03):
a nice would have started off and you're like, all right,
we got something here, and then ever since then, it's
just it's not it's not clicked. It's not been the
same guy. And I don't know what it is that's
gonna make that click for them.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
And see, I'm not asking for I'm asking for I
ain't asking for you to be that dude. I just like,
can you be James Houston? Can you flash? Can you
make a play here or there?
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Give me something?
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Let me say, oh okay, there you are.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Once again, I go back into this this thought process
is sometimes we can overrate some of these dudes where
we think he may because there are a second round
picked or this or that. I mean maybe maybe maybe
just not that good. No, see Sam Williams, Sam's maybe
sam'son not that good. We thought he would. It happens
(11:49):
about the league, man, I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
I'm not.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
I'm almost I agree with you, but I disagree at
the same time.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
And here's what I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
I don't overrate him. You drafted him. You drafted him.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Just say they should do this based off of where
we drafted them, right, And so when they don't perform
to the level of the draft pedigree, that's on the coaches,
the scouts and all that in that ain't on me.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
There's also not and it's not just a problem here
in Dallas. You're starting to see it more of a
problem around the NFL. But there's also become an issue
of guys coming back at all positions from acl tears
and they're not quite the same the first year and
about yeah, I mean last year to Marvin overshow before
he tore it again. To Marvin Overshown was one of
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the exceptions where it's like, oh, he's coming back, he's
looking really, really good. Dig's had trouble coming back from
it gallop steel. This is Sam Williams is coming back
off with the same injury they've just that's an injury
that I think sometimes you were still getting used to
trusting that knee again in the comfort and playing at
that speed again. And I do wonder if just there's
a little bit of that at play for Sam Williams.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
That's what I think is ridiculous that people think, including
the owner, Oh Asian Zero's coming back over show's coming
back in three weeks.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Wow, our defense is getting a lot of help. I
don't think so.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Not me.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
I hope he does, because he was an exciting, terrific player,
but I ain't.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Expecting him to do nothing.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
What does he want to sell?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I know he sells, Hope. That's why I just told
you I wasn't buying it.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
But that dude ain't have no training camp, that dude
ain't practice.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Or if I'm selling you hope, you I'm not talking
about all that I'm selling you, Hope.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
What did clown he say when Clowning came back, Oh,
he might start this week, And we all sat around here,
most of us like that dude ain't had no training camp,
just gonna probably take him at least three or four
weeks to get his legs up on him there. So
what do he goes? He showed up for the first
time the other day on a regular basis. Why because
he had been here by the month. So when Overshan
get his play about a month would be about game
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seventeen for he aren't you?
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Aren't you a jovial I'll say, I tell you, boy,
two repaired knees and no training camp might still be
better than some of the linebacker player they've gotten.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
That's the skin is fat.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
No, I don't, I don't. I'm just saying that that
you do if you want to talk about something, if
you want to talk about, honestly, where he'd be valuable
right away is coaching when they talk about the communication
everything Honestly, when they talk about communication and directing traffic
and telling guys you need to be here. You need
to be here Marvin overshow and can walk right in
and do that, and even if you're limited, you're talking
about somebody who still may keep everybody on task. That's
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the biggest hope I think for him right out of
the gate, Jazz.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Don't know where they supposed to line up. We will
take a break because you're touch on the positive tip
right now. Stop me when I positive? Jay, you know
what I won't won't. We're just gonna go break. When
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Wayne Jones said on his radio show today, The Bobby
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Speaker 4 (17:24):
No, not the season.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Okay, can I say something?
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Go ahead, make a positive I like the Stormtrooper uniforms
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Speaker 4 (17:31):
They look good. Now I will say I'm not gonna
I'm not gonna say anything about the sun. But when
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when the sun was bouncing off those that white was
shimmering icy. It looked like the Lord was returning. It
was just this glove a nice look.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
It nice is a nice look, magnificent whatever, okay, whatever
it is.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
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Speaker 1 (17:56):
THATK is good that I'm so so he's so positive,
so positive. Got you know, we got we got people
actually watching the show. Melissa's out here watching the show.
I'm like, thank you very much. We've got people watching
the show. Yes, yes, it's got runs Wellness clinic, you know,
trying to get some free treatments. Bobby Belt, Sir, you
were talking with Gerald Wayne Jones. Uh huh today oh
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one O five three, the fan Home of the Cowboys. Yes,
on your show. Well, actually with somebody else's show. You
just barged in there.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
But hey, sometimes man, yeah I squatted squatter's rights. Baby,
I jumped in there.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Jerry, miss your show exactly. You decided to hang around.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Just get off like this, just get on and yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
So Jerry spoke about the trade deadline.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Yes he did, and he was he's it's you know
how there are times where you can ask Jerry a
question and Jerry knows exactly what he wants to say,
and then and and he'll he'll he'll set it out
for you, and it's it's clear, like, Okay, he's thought
about this, he knew exactly how he wanted to word
it and approach it, and it was that's the way
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it was. And then there are other times where you're you're,
you're playing poker a little bit and you're like you bluffing?
Are you bluffing a little bit? It's it sounds like
you're you're, you're, you're, you're, you're trying not to tell
us what you got in your hand. And so, uh,
when we asked him about the trade deadline, very general
and vague and we could do something or we could
not do something. We could uh like you know, he said,
(19:24):
he said, does the effect on the field from this
past week affect us? Wanted to go do something? No?
What anything affected? No, it starts like I mean, just
was kind of in a couple of different directions there
to the point that it made me. My read of
it was that sounds like somebody who might be up
to something at some point, so or it's just interested
(19:44):
he's feeling It struck me that he was feeling a
little proactive.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
So you do what I call the lieutenant cafe mm
hmm and af fe good men and Jerry's colonel jessup. Yeah,
and you just got him on there asking questions, you know,
the log why did Santiago need protection? So that you do,
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and you just try to lead him into there and
you hope you get the Code RED. I did that
like two years ago about Jimmy and the Ring of
Honor when he wasn't putting him in the next thing,
you know, not about Jimmy sniveling, and you know, he
went off on that. So I got him to go
through there. Now, several people tried it because we had
that car wash of training camp and so everybody's lined
up in there. So I was just like letting people go.
And then I just kind of just say, you know, Jerr,
(20:30):
I like you, Wow, is it? Jerr? I like you?
But you and Jimmy, what's going on? This seems very petty?
And then we got him to go to the Code.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Red well, and I didn't even have to, like, I
wasn't fluffing up a question or anything like I but
he knew this was coming.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
No, no, because what we've done is everybody has asked
him about the trade deadline, truly, and his answer on
it has been we're open for business. We're always open
for business. That's that's the general line that we've gotten.
And I knew if we asked him about the trade deadline,
he would just say we're open for business. So I
the way I asked him was, I said, what do
you need to see from your team that takes you
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from we're open for business to I need to go
get somebody to put this over the top. And that's
when he said. In fact, the answer he gave was
I don't know that to actually affect a trade, that
what we see over the next few weeks is the
most important agreement as to how there might be a trade.
They'll probably if there was a trade, it will be
because it fits us. It fits us, and to fit
(21:25):
it's got to be a reason why the player would
leave that we're interested in going forward with. I mean
just was kind of going like, well, it have to
be this and all these little caveats where was like, man,
it just makes me wonder, are you are you just
trying to not let us see that you're getting a
little excited, sick.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
He's because I perused the quotes all right, and then
I couldn't figure out what they meant, and so I
came to this conclusion that he's not really sure what
he wants to do, and a lot of it will
determine what they do on Sunday against Denver. So can
they win and win two in a row? And then
I don't care that it's the card new and maybe
it's uh Kyler Murray who's never lost.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Whatever.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
You got to figure you're better than the Cardinals, And
now all of a sudden, you go, okay, if we
can get to that, we got the Raiders coming up
after the Bay. I could paint a scene where all
of a sudden, we're six three and one. Let's go
get it.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
You beat the Broncos. You beat the Broncos this week.
You've done something you haven't done in a longer time
than the last time you won a Super Bowl. You
won a Super Bowl more recently than you've beat the Broncos.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
In fact, no, no, no, beat the Broncos period. The
last time you beat the Broncos in Denver was before
you would won a title with the Triplets.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Regular Broncos and Denvers and.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Tommy Maddox rotating every other snap.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
Ye, Shawn black Shawn from Virginia, so tough places a
lot of history there.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
I'm just saying, if if you, if you walk in
to Denver and you play the Broncos team that Jerry
hasn't seen them beat thirty years, and you do it
with your guy Schottenheimer and your guy Dak against Sean Payton,
got going against Sean Payton, he may be floating home.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
So so Clarence Hill said on Channel five with me,
you have to do something, you must make you have
to do something. He's putting Jerry out there, and I
just said, I don't know, and I said, I'm not
touching on one of these ones. Okay, I'm not doing it.
Some of the players that people are not doing it.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
No, there's no player that would make you trade a
first round pick.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Yeah, but I already traded him, so and they not
bringing it. Ain't coming back. So he don't walking through
that locker room, walking through that door. It's not an
offer that's gonna be made. So no, Now would I
move a two?
Speaker 2 (23:49):
If you move a too, you'll move a one?
Speaker 1 (23:51):
No, No, No, the ones. The ones have too much value.
First off, that's five year deal, five year deal and
cost control. And if you're going to let say, pay
George Pickens and Brandon Aubrey, I've got less room. So
I need these picks because I need to get some players,
and most likely defensive players under control and get the
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highest rated guys I can. Even if I take a
one and I parlay that down and trading it down
in the second round and getting more assets, but I'm
not moving to one at all. There's no player out
here that you're gonna be able to move because oh,
by the way, when you move them, they're gonna have
a big old contract whoever's giving him, and he's gonna
give you a dude is gonna have some a high
number that they're trying to get rid of. Okay, Okay,
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So I would say no to giving up a one.
We won't talk twos or threes. Ain't gonna three, but hey.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
I would be willing to give up a one if
if you're telling me, I think these next couple weeks
are gonna be big for them. So as it stands
right now, and you look at the makeup of the
roster and the way they're playing. I look at it
and I say, I need I need players on all
three levels of the defense. I can make an argument that,
(25:00):
but here's what I need, players on all three levels
of the defense. If over the next two to three
weeks you look at it and go, okay, overshown is healthy. Okay,
there's my linebacker. Clowney is starting to look like he
may be knocking off the rust, and ez Iraku feels
like he's getting closer. If you feel like Ezeraku and
Clowney are now contributing in a way they didn't in
the first six weeks, yeah, no, No, I'm saying if
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you see, if you start seeing that, it's it's it's
going that direction. It is not. But here's here's what
I'm saying. If you feel like that, now we're talking
about Okay, now giving up a single piece might be
to get a difference maker in the secondary, and you
feel like you've improved on the other two levels of
the defense. If I can do that, if I can
find a fire sale, then in a in a league
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that is very vulnerable right now, there are no great
teams in this league this year. There's nobody that you
just go I can see him in the super Bowl.
You've no, no, no, no, this is this is no
no no no, no no no. Here's here's the thing.
That offense can compete with anybody if the defense can
get you by I just like and.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
It's just me. They're not one player away.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Right, That's why I said it would have to be.
Over the next few weeks you get evidence that it's overshown,
clowney as a rocket, guys like that falling into place
for you.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I just and I and for and when you talk
about okay, you just mentioned defensive backs, I just don't
know of a defensive back out that is possibly going
to be available that I give up a one four
right now. And if that guy is out there, what
is it going to cost me to get that particular player?
And when I get that player, how does it also
(26:31):
say my cap number prevent me from trying to resign
Pickings and also Aubrey. These two guys, Aubrey and Pickens
are gonna cost you.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
I agree. There's the safety position inherently, especially for a
team like this that does not like to spend capital
that high, even drafting safeties typically much less given them
for for veterans who they also then have to pay.
What I'll say is if you look at find one
of these teams that you feel like maybe in fire
sale mode, and if you talk to them and they say,
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we have this safety, but we also have this other
defender on one of the other two levels, and it's
a one, and you're getting two players back potentially.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Okay, we were gonna take a break because you just
put something in my face over here. It's gonna make
me shout shout a one for him.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
No, no, no, no, no, not not I'm not even
doing it. No, no, not just for him.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
You know what, man, Dion Sanders is not walking through
that door. People. Okay, it's not gonna be anything like that. Now,
who's been mister not? It's just not not. That's Melissabeth,
you all been hanging out here. You're gonna put somebody.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
That's a different question. That is a different question.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Oh that's a different question.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
You know what, man, that's a difficult I'm.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Just I'm just saying, if you're looking at maximizing capital,
if you're looking if you're looking at maximizing your capital,
we find a team that wants to do that, is
willing to play ball with you on maybe multiple people.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
And some bibecue the great Bill Parcells once when people
talk about Cootes that I like you call one one
hundred dollar quarterback. Okay, guys, try to dial one hundred
dial of defensive players. Go make some mcac on our team.
Come on, guys, all right, anyway, that's just me, that's
just me. Take a break, Bobby Jacques. Now you guys
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No, I thank you though, that's all good because we're
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right now.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
So all.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Cowboys getting ready to go to Denver. They've got the
day off. Uh, the windows opening up for Cooper BB
they're starting center tomorrow and Overshowing linebacker who can help
them out. And Jonathan Mingo. Jay Mingo, it's going to
be on the fifty three man roster. He's here. I
asked Shoddy yesterday about what why c you man? You
(31:42):
know it's just negative man trying to sit up here
and give you up possibilities, possibilities. So I like Illinoy,
all right, you can like Illinoy. But Bobby and Nick
are trying to get rid of Jayalen Tolbert. They're trying
to trade Jalen Tolber.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
Let me, I should be oh Mingo into No.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Mingo's under contract for next year. Jalen Tolbert's not under contract.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
I feel like, so, yeah, I think it's context matters.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
One, there has been a disappointment with Talbert to this point.
Talbert would say he's been disappointed in the way things
have played out for him so far these first four years.
He is expiring. They're not bringing him back after this year.
I would not believe right like, you've already got a
room that you've invested capital in. There's just space questions
(32:33):
there and the fact that I think you should even
investigate looking into it is because somebody out there is
gonna look at it and go, that's a guy who
caught fifty passes and some touchdowns last year. We could
operate with that in our receiver room right now. Oh
I'm sorry, but I think that. To me, it's just
what's available for him here. Like I think it would
(32:54):
just do everybody some good to just say, let's find
something that may work for everybody the rest of the
way and then you can enter free agency next year.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
So that's why I'm because we're doing the animash and
just keep going through it.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
So Mingo, who had some nice moments in training camp
before he got hurt, never played with.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
Dak Prescott nice moments and train cabin, a cup of coffee,
You get your bus ticket to somewhere.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
They're going to have an issue, or you can beat
your meal showers the meal got a cat a name
for the pan.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
That's that's that did not have him on being go cut.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
So somebody's not somebody's gonna be wearing to salute the
service shirt on the sideline. The sweatshirt on Sunday is
if Illinois is no Mingo, who's going to be there
if you're also trying to move Jalen Tolbert, you're gonna
need him. Not he's gonna need to play, but Mingo
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is going to be here.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Yeah, this isn't even about this is as you look.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Toward it could be fishing. As you look towards twenty
and you right down the roster ceed, Lamb, Turpin, flood Away, Mingo,
Pickens may not be here, Tobert most likely won't be here.
So I'm saying Pickens be here.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
There's a it's not even about who the players are specifically.
There reaches a point where you have such a log
jam that it just you start evaluating, going like is
this the best use of resources? Like if is somebody
just wearing that salute service shirt or being you know,
off the roster on the practice squad because they needed
(34:33):
a roster spots, and think of it, Is that a
valuable use of it if you feel like you've got
enough guys in the room that you like. And that's
the thing is that I think they've got enough guys
that in the room that they like, have invested in
want to find out about things like that that it
makes sense to just say, we should find something to
do with one of these guys other than just put
them out in the free. Now, it didn't work out,
but here's ago. The Cowboys did this with a defensive
(34:57):
back at the end of training camp that they were
full on corners, they went ahead, made a trade. We've
got a concussion right now, yep, made a trade. And
that was when they did that. When they traded, they
had and they the rest of your that year. They
liked their corner room. It was a good and it
was a good corner room that year. But it was
just like, hey, holding onto this just seems unnecessary. Use
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one of these pieces instead of just having it sit there,
go use it to do something else. And that's kind
of how I think the approach to receiver would.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Make sense anyway, Mingo somebody, I'd just say, man, just
just see where it goes.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
Man.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
I just think that I think they have a better idea.
I think they believe they have with more certainty. They
know what some of these other guys like Tolbert can
give them and what they are than they know about Mingo.
So I think to them it's like, at least there's
something for us to investigate here.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
And he's under contract, not going anywhere, not go anywhere,
Jack Taylor. So you missed a negativity out there, man,
just let me know, letting you know, that's all. That's all.
That's why I wanted to bring it up and shot
he spoke about it a little bit. So let's see
where it goes. Because it's a long season. Long season.
Never know who else gets hurt, what can happen out there,
might need it. And then you can sit back here, say, boy,
(36:15):
they talked about that on the media.
Speaker 6 (36:16):
Man.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
That's one of the other arguments people always give you.
This said, don't be so quick to trade away depth either,
because injuries are going to hit you.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Seventeen game seasons and when you start to think about
the last half of the season. The Cowboys have the
toughest schedule in National Football League. Some of the teams
they got to face out here in the back, it's
it's hard.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Man.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
You got the Chargers, you got the Chiefs, you got
the Lions. You still have to go to the Commanders
on Christmas Day. I don't care that you just beat
the Jesus out of them. It's still no fun going
to travel and work on Christmas Day. And because you
got to get a Christmas Eve for the Christmas Day game.
So I mean, I know I've done that a few times.
I have not that's because you the sports directly, Bobby, Bobby,
(36:56):
let me know how it goes.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
We get off, we're already trying to figure ot out. Okay,
we are gonna also coordinate it where we're doing Christmas
in DC, And so we're already having to figure out plans.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
What times the game three? They got to you can't
get avoided game? Yes, you can't get home? Yeah, no,
you're there, you're there. Oh you know what y'all should do?
Speaker 1 (37:18):
It's nude. I'm sorry, nune on Netflix. Oh so you
got this. You can get home, You can get home.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
You get home for Christmas night?
Speaker 5 (37:24):
Net flit or let's go back in one of those
years the Cowboys played New Orleans on Christmas Eve.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
You stay in New Orleans. That's an easy one.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
No, man, Jerry sent the plane back for the beat writers.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yes, you can't take that. That's get journalistice take.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
Why you think I'm telling it twenty five years later
because the bosson didn't know took the plane back. And
that was not the only beat, right, in there. Everybody
else can speak for themselves.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
So you all gave Jerry check for the plane, right,
shook his hand and thanked him.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
I would like to say that I would never be
involved in such a thing. NFL off your listeners.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
To the jet back. Okay, had cocktails on the jet too, all.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Right, Bobby. Also speaking on Jerald Wayne Jeral Wayne Jones,
George Pickens spoke after the game about Pickings and you know, hey,
agent should be a problem on but the price tag
keeps going up for this young man after every game
he plays. And Dak Prescott. And I asked jac last Thursday,
hey you go to Jerry to say something to him.
(38:26):
He's like, yeah, I will. If they're going to get
the best out of Dak Prescott, they need to have
these two players. In my opinion, now here's the only question.
Here's the only question.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
Do you and you have nobody can know except the
people involved. Do you think you will get this George
Pickings after you get paid.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
That's a very good and fair question, That's what I'm saying.
And this is one where you have to rely on
your head coach and your quarterback to go to them
to say what are we seeing what do we think
will change. It's kind of like Tara Loans. Tara Loans
is happy for half a second when they paid him.
Then when he thought he won't get his money, he acted.
Speaker 5 (39:07):
And see, that's what I'm saying, Like if even if
you talk about whether he's gonna get a long term
deal or whether you're gonna get franchise some players, you
franchise them and they.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Go, oh, I'll take that money, no problem.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
And some players like okay. Then you'd have to know
which one is the age. He's not exactly doing nobody's people.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
This is a and I mean, this is an organization
that over the years has had concerns about paying somebody.
They ultimately do it and it's been fine. They've had
other instances of zero concerns about paying somebody and then
they pay him and they go, oh, it's it's it's
a different it's a different it's a different player, it's
a different person now in the locker room. And it's
one of those things where I don't know how much
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you you you will be able to see it in advance.
I think that George Pickens seems genuinely happy here and
seems genuinely got beat here. I also think George Pickens
has never been a guy who's afraid to show you
how he feels about something or to talk to you
about how he feels something about something. So I mean,
I think that personality type that he is, he's the
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kind of guy that, to me, I would actually not
have concerns about, because I would say, I think he's
going to be that guy regardless, because that's who he's
always been.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
We don't know these guys, we don't know. All we
can go buy is what we see is parcels. As
you say, That's what I would say. What is the
head coach saying, what is the quarterback saying? And what
is my more importantly, what's my position coach saying? What
are we seeing? Because it's always a gamble, It's always
a gamble. And can you be deceived in pool? Yes, yes,
(40:41):
it happens. But I know what I've seen so far
makes me say I'll take that opportunity. I'll take the
chance because.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
I think he makes the quarterback, Betty makes c D
Betty makes the offense better.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
He's he's that.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
Deep ball is starting to click that was not click
in the first two weeks, it's hitting now.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
And so I had asked him this week, I said,
are you are you on point with that where you
guys can look at each other and you just have
this chemistry. He said, not yet. We're seeing getting there.
We're seeing them get that. And so I go back
to this one thing, Jack, and I'll let you go.
When I think about Peyton Manning, who was an excellent
talent in himself, that's why he's in the Hall of Fame.
But Bill Polly always made sure he had targets. He
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walks in here, there's Marvin Harrison. They drafted regulating. They
use a first round pick on Anything's Oz, the wire receiver.
They use a first round pick on Dallas called the
tit End. They used first round picks on Edrin James,
and they and the kid Donald from they kept putting
talent around him, and he kept on putting up numbers.
What have we seen from Dok Prescott this year? But wow,
you know, instead of CDs and the Maybes at CD
(41:42):
and picking and a rejuvenated Ferguson and this guy's playing
at another level, why would you not keep it going?
Speaker 5 (41:47):
No, that's and I think from Georgia's perspective. You didn't
spent your entire career with a bunch of busted quarterbacks.
Now you got a good one. Yeah, okay, you know,
do you want to go somewhere now, if you go
somewhere where the quarterbacks equally good? All right, but there's
only a handful.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Of those, right, And also the chemistry, Yeah, a lot
people people like Dak Prescott. He's a he's a good dude.
He's a good dude. It's a good dude. All right.
Let's end the show right there on a positive note.
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (42:16):
So you did it.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
You did it finally. It took the whole show broadcast
once you opened up the bag of chips. Everything just
you know what, people got.
Speaker 4 (42:25):
Happy tostitos bring the positivity.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
That's right.
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I like that tagline. I'm gonna use it.
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Media Match time right here from the Star in fris Sco. Hi.
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for last night. And I just see the Houston Texas
at quarterback c er A CJ. Strouder. He just makes
it you realize, hey, baby, this league can turn in
a minute. Because after his rookie season, it looked like, gosh, yeah,
it was a stop. The star was high like RG
three rookies.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Stars.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Now you look at ooh, you know he's he's odd too,
Because like RG three, I think a lot of people
felt like and I can see the come down. Like
certain quarterbacks they see me, You're like, I can envision
a scenario where they take a step back. Stroud was
not that guy. The first year you saw Stroud play,
it was like, well that's just only looks to be
going up.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Well, look, this is an interesting thing about the league.
And I bring that up talking about CJ. Strout. They
thought they had the answer. They don't. And over here
with the Dallas Cowboys, you know, nor what the forty five,
their quarterback is getting it done. And Bobby, you take
a lot of phone calls and a lot of text
(01:44):
over THET one to five three of the fan and
there's a whole bunch of DAK haters out there, the
people who are consistently upset. That group is pretty quiet
right now because rain DeKota Prescott is playing at another level.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Yeah, I mean, the only thing you have from a
dark critic right now is will tell me in January
come to come talk.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
To me in January.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Yeah, you'll get that one to it, But comes talk
to me in January when the playoffs matter. That's that's
when he's gonna crumble. That's the kind of stuff that
you're getting right now. But yeah, I mean it's really
hard to say anything negative about the way he's playing
football right now because he's playing it at such a
high level and in a way that is masking some
other issues, like, for instance, the past protection has not
been perfect for them and in previous years, Dak's probably
(02:27):
getting sacked five six more times this season than he
has been already. Uh So, I mean, you're you're seeing
him performing at such a high elite mental processing level
that you know it's able to cover over a lot
of other people's shortcomings. And that's what makes this offense
so dangerous right now.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
And what he does in process he's running away from
like even the other day on the third and seventy
runs makes a guy miss, runs over another guy, gets
the seven yards for a first end sets at Ferguson touchdown.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
When they go to the hurry.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yet you hadn't seen it lately. Bro One thing I
can also say, I think it's being overlooked and not
talked about enough is the center. Cooper BB's not there.
Brock Hoffman is a nice player, but Cooper BB's window
is starting to open up here and getting back a
starting center along with an offensive line it's pretty much
been compromise since since after the first game. To be
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able to do this is something that is not talked
about enough because obviously people don't pay attention to the
offensive line play as much as we do because we
cover it.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Yeah, but it matters.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
In this league. And when he can get back the
full set of offensive linemen, I'll be very curious to
see what it is they can do.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
They I had somebody around the league tell me once
they said we have more in terms of the necessary
number that you need that. They said, we have more
quarterbacks in the NFL than we do offensive linemen in
terms of just if you need one in a backup.
We can fill those holes around the league easier than
we can fill five starting offensive linemen and three backups,
three to four backups. Because it's just such a talent
(03:56):
starved position. You got a lot of guys out there
who are just kind of thrown out that that's what
was so and it feels like and uh, it feels
like an over cell to use the sword. But that's
what was so amazing about what they did a couple
weeks ago with four backup offensive lineman walking in there,
and the fact that they continue to manage things. I mean,
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Dak's getting sacked at the lowest rate of his career
right now without really having played with his offensive line
the entire season.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Check it out, though, what do we often said about
sex they're really a quarterbacks?
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Yeah, who's getting rid of the balls?
Speaker 5 (04:27):
So he's now Okay, if it's not there, I'll check
it down, I can move, I can get rid of it.
And so I think that plays a role into why
is not getting sicked as much. Yeah, you look at
he's in the metrics. Baby.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
You look at quarterbacks like Tom Brady and Peyton Manning
in their careers and got to a point time where
these guys just wouldn't let you get to him. Yeah,
I'll throw it. I'll throw it right in the ground.
I'm gonna throw it over. I mean, they were just
they were hard to get to. They were hard to
get to, and Dak Prescott is there right now. And
also give the play call of Brian Schotenheimer credit because
these two are on the same page of what needs
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to get done and Shoddy when he took the job,
set We're going to run the football, and they're running
the football. You look at what they did against Washington.
It was very even run past ratio. I go back
to when Tony Rummel had his I thought, his best
year with the Cowboys, and that was when Demarcomorro was
the NFL Offensive Player of the Year because they were
able to get a run a pass run ratio that worked.
(05:23):
Because anytime Tony was throwing the ball forty fifty times,
it just wasn't good. That's really almost any quarterback in
this league. You just don't want to throw on the
ball that high in terms of that many times because
you're gonna make a mistake along the way.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
And then their ability to run the ball has done
what It's made the red zone offense so much more
productive because not only can you run it in now
all your play actions work, which means Jake Ferguson is
scoring touchdowns at the rapid rate.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
So what Carolina did, So Carolina just brought the safety
down and you know, now with Ceedee lamdback in there,
you couldn't you couldn't do what Carolina did the week before,
and it opens up so much and we saw Javonte
Williams have a much better game.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Yeah, you also play I think you played better in
the trade, Carolina beat you up. Yes, on the interior,
they they were they were that was a team that
was ready to come in there and punch in the mouth,
and they didn't respond the right way and that physicality
really was tough for them. But you know, we talked
about it earlier today on the station. We were going to
the subject of like what Stephen Jones says that there's
another level the offense can reach. It's like, Okay, well,
(06:21):
what can they do better? And when you start looking
at it other than the pass protection, which you feel
like will come around when some of these injuries clean up,
then you're really looking at can I get Jayden Blue
to be a nice change of paceback to compliment Javonte Williams.
Can I lessen some penalties? Can I start hitting seam
routes to Titans? It's stuff that feels very narrow and
almost nitpicky at times because they are just playing as
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a unit.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
So, well, can your tight ends hold some blocks better?
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Yeah, that's that's a big thing. Tight ends blocking better?
And again that Dak one of his favorite throws his
entire career has been the seam throat of the tight end,
and that's one of the ones that he's he's been
really good at. They threw it a ton out here
during the off season and during training camp, and then
what you're getting is once the season is it is
there have been five or six times where they've tried
(07:06):
to hit it and it's just been a little off
or somebody hasn't finished the play. They finally hit one
against Carolina with ferg for the touchdown, but for the
most part, that's one of those things that they're still
working on. But again, that feels like something that has
been such muscle memory for Dak in the past that
you're like, well, that's gonna come around at some point,
and you feel like Jayden Blue is gonna start contributing
at a higher level at some point. It just it
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feels really difficult to stop this offense right now.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
So we'll talk about jay Blue, the rookie from Texas.
I have to remind fans it's a different level, and
not to say that Jayden Blue by any means can't
adjust to it, but there's a learning curve for some people.
Some folks it's not I mean, he's Javante's really playing
at a high level. And then some people think, oh,
(07:50):
just especially because their numbers are so close to twenty two,
twenty three and thirty three. Like, it's going to be
a learning curve for him here and it may take
a little bit. I still think the players good player
and they made a good pick. But Javonte comes out
and he comes in right now, it's a little bit
of a difference between he and Miles Sanders, and it's
just experience.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
But a learning curve should be to me on you know,
pass protection and stuff like that. But running back is
the most instinctive position in the game you could put
any I remember this man back to my kids flag
football days. They having their first day of tryals and
everybody's doing their thing. You go, oh, there's a quarterback
because that dude can throw the ball, and by five
players like, oh, there's a running back because he got
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a fluidity to him. And running backs is just natural.
That's why you can see freshman running backs playing on
the varsity. That's why you can see freshman running backs
show up in college. And that's why you can see
freshman running back rookie running back who are bad asses
show up in the NFL. Now, some guys might have
a learning curve, but Jared Rice had learning cur trop
Palomo I had learning curve. They learned, they learned, and
if you're a good player, you'll learn.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I said running backs.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
I didn't say the mother because running back is just
everybody knows.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
It's the easiest position when you tackle.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
There's always one cat up there that you can't ever
tackle and don't matter when you started playing. That's all
I'm saying for running backs is instinctive. All the spots
I get.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
You, I will say there's the stuff that's more than
just instinct that maybe you got to learn a little bit.
When Opening Night, when Miles Sanders breaks off that big
run where he got tackled short and they fumbled a
couple plays later, that's a good example of a veteran
knowing to like knowing how to set up the block
and how to run behind it and run with patients
and then hit the whole Jayden Blue probably gets tackled
for a two yard game on that play, even though
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he's a faster player.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
I also think one of the other things that people
got to remember, and I like the Jayden Blue pick.
Jade Blue was a fifth round pick. Jane Blue was
a running back at the University of Texas who never
won the job at Texas. Jane Blue is running back
who had fumbling problems there and also had some times
where he had to fall into a rhythm. So I
mean this is I think it's important that, yeah, that
people put some contexts out of a fifth round pick
(09:50):
who was splitting carries at Texas and didn't even own
the job there. And so there's going to be a
little bit of like, all right, we're trying to develop
a guy here.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Because let me tell you, I have zero It doesn't
matter what year you draft.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
I have zero expectations for anybody taking after the fourth round.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
We know they are whatever they are. I know you've
said it many times and.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
I keep saying say that to Jay Rowlan.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Hey, that don't mean you can't be a bad dude.
It's just means I have no expectations for.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
You, which I think is fair.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
I think it's like I got expectations for first and
second round picks like Marsha and Neelan where you at
dough Like second round picks I got. I got expectations. Yeah, first,
I mean after the fifth round. I don't first through four.
I have a level of expectations. Sam, where you at,
Sam Williams, Sam Waie, whit you at?
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Doe?
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Well, with flags thrown, that's usually.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Neland I'll say you mentioned Nland there. Neeland has been
one that I think has been disappointing for them because
they feel like, not only did he have a positive offseason,
but he came to the year healthy. He was somebody
that they felt like was developing some of the tools
they wanted to see. First game against Philly, he was
arguably your best defensive lineman and so it was like
(11:03):
a nice would have started off and you're like, all right,
we got something here, and then ever since then, it's
just it's not it's not clicked. It's not been the
same guy. And I don't know what it is that's
gonna make that click for them.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
And see, I'm not asking for I'm asking for I
ain't asking for you to be that dude. I just like,
can you be James Houston? Can you flash? Can you
make a play here or there?
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Give me something?
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Let me say, oh okay, there you are.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Once again, I go back into this this thought process
is sometimes we can overrate some of these dudes where
we think he may because there are a second round
picked or this or that. I mean maybe maybe maybe
just not that good. No, see Sam Williams, Sam's maybe
sam'son not that good. We thought he would. It happens
(11:49):
about the league, man, I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
I'm not.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
I'm almost I agree with you, but I disagree at
the same time.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
And here's what I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
I don't overrate him. You drafted him. You drafted him.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Just say they should do this based off of where
we drafted them, right, And so when they don't perform
to the level of the draft pedigree, that's on the coaches,
the scouts and all that in that ain't on me.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
There's also not and it's not just a problem here
in Dallas. You're starting to see it more of a
problem around the NFL. But there's also become an issue
of guys coming back at all positions from acl tears
and they're not quite the same the first year and
about yeah, I mean last year to Marvin overshow before
he tore it again. To Marvin Overshown was one of
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the exceptions where it's like, oh, he's coming back, he's
looking really, really good. Dig's had trouble coming back from
it gallop steel. This is Sam Williams is coming back
off with the same injury they've just that's an injury
that I think sometimes you were still getting used to
trusting that knee again in the comfort and playing at
that speed again. And I do wonder if just there's
a little bit of that at play for Sam Williams.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
That's what I think is ridiculous that people think, including
the owner, Oh Asian Zero's coming back over show's coming
back in three weeks.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Wow, our defense is getting a lot of help. I
don't think so.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Not me.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
I hope he does, because he was an exciting, terrific player,
but I ain't.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Expecting him to do nothing.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
What does he want to sell?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I know he sells, Hope. That's why I just told
you I wasn't buying it.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
But that dude ain't have no training camp, that dude
ain't practice.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Or if I'm selling you hope, you I'm not talking
about all that I'm selling you, Hope.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
What did clown he say when Clowning came back, Oh,
he might start this week, And we all sat around here,
most of us like that dude ain't had no training camp,
just gonna probably take him at least three or four
weeks to get his legs up on him there. So
what do he goes? He showed up for the first
time the other day on a regular basis. Why because
he had been here by the month. So when Overshan
get his play about a month would be about game
(13:46):
seventeen for he aren't you?
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Aren't you a jovial I'll say, I tell you, boy,
two repaired knees and no training camp might still be
better than some of the linebacker player they've gotten.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
That's the skin is fat.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
No, I don't, I don't. I'm just saying that that
you do if you want to talk about something, if
you want to talk about, honestly, where he'd be valuable
right away is coaching when they talk about the communication
everything Honestly, when they talk about communication and directing traffic
and telling guys you need to be here. You need
to be here Marvin overshow and can walk right in
and do that, and even if you're limited, you're talking
about somebody who still may keep everybody on task. That's
(14:19):
the biggest hope I think for him right out of
the gate, Jazz.
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Don't know where they supposed to line up. We will
take a break because you're touch on the positive tip
right now. Stop me when I positive? Jay, you know
what I won't won't. We're just gonna go break. When
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Speaker 4 (17:24):
No, not the season.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Okay, can I say something?
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Go ahead, make a positive I like the Stormtrooper uniforms
the other day.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
They look good. Now I will say I'm not gonna
I'm not gonna say anything about the sun. But when
I was watching the the All twenty two back of
when the sun was bouncing off those that white was
shimmering icy. It looked like the Lord was returning. It
was just this glove a nice look.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
It nice is a nice look, magnificent whatever, okay, whatever
it is.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yeah, great, Hey, THATK is really good too.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
THATK is good that I'm so so he's so positive,
so positive. Got you know, we got we got people
actually watching the show. Melissa's out here watching the show.
I'm like, thank you very much. We've got people watching
the show. Yes, yes, it's got runs Wellness clinic, you know,
trying to get some free treatments. Bobby Belt, Sir, you
were talking with Gerald Wayne Jones. Uh huh today oh
(18:18):
one O five three, the fan Home of the Cowboys. Yes,
on your show. Well, actually with somebody else's show. You
just barged in there.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
But hey, sometimes man, yeah I squatted squatter's rights. Baby,
I jumped in there.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Jerry, miss your show exactly. You decided to hang around.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Just get off like this, just get on and yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
So Jerry spoke about the trade deadline.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Yes he did, and he was he's it's you know
how there are times where you can ask Jerry a
question and Jerry knows exactly what he wants to say,
and then and and he'll he'll he'll set it out
for you, and it's it's clear, like, Okay, he's thought
about this, he knew exactly how he wanted to word
it and approach it, and it was that's the way
(19:01):
it was. And then there are other times where you're you're,
you're playing poker a little bit and you're like you bluffing?
Are you bluffing a little bit? It's it sounds like
you're you're, you're, you're, you're, you're trying not to tell
us what you got in your hand. And so, uh,
when we asked him about the trade deadline, very general
and vague and we could do something or we could
not do something. We could uh like you know, he said,
(19:24):
he said, does the effect on the field from this
past week affect us? Wanted to go do something? No?
What anything affected? No, it starts like I mean, just
was kind of in a couple of different directions there
to the point that it made me. My read of
it was that sounds like somebody who might be up
to something at some point, so or it's just interested
(19:44):
he's feeling It struck me that he was feeling a
little proactive.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
So you do what I call the lieutenant cafe mm
hmm and af fe good men and Jerry's colonel jessup. Yeah,
and you just got him on there asking questions, you know,
the log why did Santiago need protection? So that you do,
(20:08):
and you just try to lead him into there and
you hope you get the Code RED. I did that
like two years ago about Jimmy and the Ring of
Honor when he wasn't putting him in the next thing,
you know, not about Jimmy sniveling, and you know, he
went off on that. So I got him to go
through there. Now, several people tried it because we had
that car wash of training camp and so everybody's lined
up in there. So I was just like letting people go.
And then I just kind of just say, you know, Jerr,
(20:30):
I like you, Wow, is it? Jerr? I like you?
But you and Jimmy, what's going on? This seems very petty?
And then we got him to go to the Code.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Red well, and I didn't even have to, like, I
wasn't fluffing up a question or anything like I but
he knew this was coming.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
No, no, because what we've done is everybody has asked
him about the trade deadline, truly, and his answer on
it has been we're open for business. We're always open
for business. That's that's the general line that we've gotten.
And I knew if we asked him about the trade deadline,
he would just say we're open for business. So I
the way I asked him was, I said, what do
you need to see from your team that takes you
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from we're open for business to I need to go
get somebody to put this over the top. And that's
when he said. In fact, the answer he gave was
I don't know that to actually affect a trade, that
what we see over the next few weeks is the
most important agreement as to how there might be a trade.
They'll probably if there was a trade, it will be
because it fits us. It fits us, and to fit
(21:25):
it's got to be a reason why the player would
leave that we're interested in going forward with. I mean
just was kind of going like, well, it have to
be this and all these little caveats where was like, man,
it just makes me wonder, are you are you just
trying to not let us see that you're getting a
little excited, sick.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
He's because I perused the quotes all right, and then
I couldn't figure out what they meant, and so I
came to this conclusion that he's not really sure what
he wants to do, and a lot of it will
determine what they do on Sunday against Denver. So can
they win and win two in a row? And then
I don't care that it's the card new and maybe
it's uh Kyler Murray who's never lost.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Whatever.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
You got to figure you're better than the Cardinals, And
now all of a sudden, you go, okay, if we
can get to that, we got the Raiders coming up
after the Bay. I could paint a scene where all
of a sudden, we're six three and one. Let's go
get it.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
You beat the Broncos. You beat the Broncos this week.
You've done something you haven't done in a longer time
than the last time you won a Super Bowl. You
won a Super Bowl more recently than you've beat the Broncos.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
In fact, no, no, no, beat the Broncos period. The
last time you beat the Broncos in Denver was before
you would won a title with the Triplets.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Regular Broncos and Denvers and.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Tommy Maddox rotating every other snap.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
Ye, Shawn black Shawn from Virginia, so tough places a
lot of history there.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
I'm just saying, if if you, if you walk in
to Denver and you play the Broncos team that Jerry
hasn't seen them beat thirty years, and you do it
with your guy Schottenheimer and your guy Dak against Sean Payton,
got going against Sean Payton, he may be floating home.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
So so Clarence Hill said on Channel five with me,
you have to do something, you must make you have
to do something. He's putting Jerry out there, and I
just said, I don't know, and I said, I'm not
touching on one of these ones. Okay, I'm not doing it.
Some of the players that people are not doing it.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
No, there's no player that would make you trade a
first round pick.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Yeah, but I already traded him, so and they not
bringing it. Ain't coming back. So he don't walking through
that locker room, walking through that door. It's not an
offer that's gonna be made. So no, Now would I
move a two?
Speaker 2 (23:49):
If you move a too, you'll move a one?
Speaker 1 (23:51):
No, No, No, the ones. The ones have too much value.
First off, that's five year deal, five year deal and
cost control. And if you're going to let say, pay
George Pickens and Brandon Aubrey, I've got less room. So
I need these picks because I need to get some players,
and most likely defensive players under control and get the
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highest rated guys I can. Even if I take a
one and I parlay that down and trading it down
in the second round and getting more assets, but I'm
not moving to one at all. There's no player out
here that you're gonna be able to move because oh,
by the way, when you move them, they're gonna have
a big old contract whoever's giving him, and he's gonna
give you a dude is gonna have some a high
number that they're trying to get rid of. Okay, Okay,
(24:32):
So I would say no to giving up a one.
We won't talk twos or threes. Ain't gonna three, but hey.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
I would be willing to give up a one if
if you're telling me, I think these next couple weeks
are gonna be big for them. So as it stands
right now, and you look at the makeup of the
roster and the way they're playing. I look at it
and I say, I need I need players on all
three levels of the defense. I can make an argument that,
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but here's what I need, players on all three levels
of the defense. If over the next two to three
weeks you look at it and go, okay, overshown is healthy. Okay,
there's my linebacker. Clowney is starting to look like he
may be knocking off the rust, and ez Iraku feels
like he's getting closer. If you feel like Ezeraku and
Clowney are now contributing in a way they didn't in
the first six weeks, yeah, no, No, I'm saying if
(25:21):
you see, if you start seeing that, it's it's it's
going that direction. It is not. But here's here's what
I'm saying. If you feel like that, now we're talking
about Okay, now giving up a single piece might be
to get a difference maker in the secondary, and you
feel like you've improved on the other two levels of
the defense. If I can do that, if I can
find a fire sale, then in a in a league
(25:42):
that is very vulnerable right now, there are no great
teams in this league this year. There's nobody that you
just go I can see him in the super Bowl.
You've no, no, no, no, this is this is no
no no no, no no no. Here's here's the thing.
That offense can compete with anybody if the defense can
get you by I just like and.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
It's just me. They're not one player away.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Right, That's why I said it would have to be.
Over the next few weeks you get evidence that it's overshown,
clowney as a rocket, guys like that falling into place
for you.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I just and I and for and when you talk
about okay, you just mentioned defensive backs, I just don't
know of a defensive back out that is possibly going
to be available that I give up a one four
right now. And if that guy is out there, what
is it going to cost me to get that particular player?
And when I get that player, how does it also
(26:31):
say my cap number prevent me from trying to resign
Pickings and also Aubrey. These two guys, Aubrey and Pickens
are gonna cost you.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
I agree. There's the safety position inherently, especially for a
team like this that does not like to spend capital
that high, even drafting safeties typically much less given them
for for veterans who they also then have to pay.
What I'll say is if you look at find one
of these teams that you feel like maybe in fire
sale mode, and if you talk to them and they say,
(27:01):
we have this safety, but we also have this other
defender on one of the other two levels, and it's
a one, and you're getting two players back potentially.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Okay, we were gonna take a break because you just
put something in my face over here. It's gonna make
me shout shout a one for him.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
No, no, no, no, no, not not I'm not even
doing it. No, no, not just for him.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
You know what, man, Dion Sanders is not walking through
that door. People. Okay, it's not gonna be anything like that. Now,
who's been mister not? It's just not not. That's Melissabeth,
you all been hanging out here. You're gonna put somebody.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
That's a different question. That is a different question.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Oh that's a different question.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
You know what, man, that's a difficult I'm.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Just I'm just saying, if you're looking at maximizing capital,
if you're looking if you're looking at maximizing your capital,
we find a team that wants to do that, is
willing to play ball with you on maybe multiple people.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
And some bibecue the great Bill Parcells once when people
talk about Cootes that I like you call one one
hundred dollar quarterback. Okay, guys, try to dial one hundred
dial of defensive players. Go make some mcac on our team.
Come on, guys, all right, anyway, that's just me, that's
just me. Take a break, Bobby Jacques. Now you guys
got me on team negative. I'm new Express mediamash and
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Speaker 4 (31:14):
So all.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Cowboys getting ready to go to Denver. They've got the
day off. Uh, the windows opening up for Cooper BB
they're starting center tomorrow and Overshowing linebacker who can help
them out. And Jonathan Mingo. Jay Mingo, it's going to
be on the fifty three man roster. He's here. I
asked Shoddy yesterday about what why c you man? You
(31:42):
know it's just negative man trying to sit up here
and give you up possibilities, possibilities. So I like Illinoy,
all right, you can like Illinoy. But Bobby and Nick
are trying to get rid of Jayalen Tolbert. They're trying
to trade Jalen Tolber.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
Let me, I should be oh Mingo into No.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Mingo's under contract for next year. Jalen Tolbert's not under contract.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
I feel like, so, yeah, I think it's context matters.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
One, there has been a disappointment with Talbert to this point.
Talbert would say he's been disappointed in the way things
have played out for him so far these first four years.
He is expiring. They're not bringing him back after this year.
I would not believe right like, you've already got a
room that you've invested capital in. There's just space questions
(32:33):
there and the fact that I think you should even
investigate looking into it is because somebody out there is
gonna look at it and go, that's a guy who
caught fifty passes and some touchdowns last year. We could
operate with that in our receiver room right now. Oh
I'm sorry, but I think that. To me, it's just
what's available for him here. Like I think it would
(32:54):
just do everybody some good to just say, let's find
something that may work for everybody the rest of the
way and then you can enter free agency next year.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
So that's why I'm because we're doing the animash and
just keep going through it.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
So Mingo, who had some nice moments in training camp
before he got hurt, never played with.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
Dak Prescott nice moments and train cabin, a cup of coffee,
You get your bus ticket to somewhere.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
They're going to have an issue, or you can beat
your meal showers the meal got a cat a name
for the pan.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
That's that's that did not have him on being go cut.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
So somebody's not somebody's gonna be wearing to salute the
service shirt on the sideline. The sweatshirt on Sunday is
if Illinois is no Mingo, who's going to be there
if you're also trying to move Jalen Tolbert, you're gonna
need him. Not he's gonna need to play, but Mingo
(33:54):
is going to be here.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Yeah, this isn't even about this is as you look.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Toward it could be fishing. As you look towards twenty
and you right down the roster ceed, Lamb, Turpin, flood Away, Mingo,
Pickens may not be here, Tobert most likely won't be here.
So I'm saying Pickens be here.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
There's a it's not even about who the players are specifically.
There reaches a point where you have such a log
jam that it just you start evaluating, going like is
this the best use of resources? Like if is somebody
just wearing that salute service shirt or being you know,
off the roster on the practice squad because they needed
(34:33):
a roster spots, and think of it, Is that a
valuable use of it if you feel like you've got
enough guys in the room that you like. And that's
the thing is that I think they've got enough guys
that in the room that they like, have invested in
want to find out about things like that that it
makes sense to just say, we should find something to
do with one of these guys other than just put
them out in the free. Now, it didn't work out,
but here's ago. The Cowboys did this with a defensive
(34:57):
back at the end of training camp that they were
full on corners, they went ahead, made a trade. We've
got a concussion right now, yep, made a trade. And
that was when they did that. When they traded, they
had and they the rest of your that year. They
liked their corner room. It was a good and it
was a good corner room that year. But it was
just like, hey, holding onto this just seems unnecessary. Use
(35:20):
one of these pieces instead of just having it sit there,
go use it to do something else. And that's kind
of how I think the approach to receiver would.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Make sense anyway, Mingo somebody, I'd just say, man, just
just see where it goes.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
Man.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
I just think that I think they have a better idea.
I think they believe they have with more certainty. They
know what some of these other guys like Tolbert can
give them and what they are than they know about Mingo.
So I think to them it's like, at least there's
something for us to investigate here.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
And he's under contract, not going anywhere, not go anywhere,
Jack Taylor. So you missed a negativity out there, man,
just let me know, letting you know, that's all. That's all.
That's why I wanted to bring it up and shot
he spoke about it a little bit. So let's see
where it goes. Because it's a long season. Long season.
Never know who else gets hurt, what can happen out there,
might need it. And then you can sit back here, say, boy,
(36:15):
they talked about that on the media.
Speaker 6 (36:16):
Man.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
That's one of the other arguments people always give you.
This said, don't be so quick to trade away depth either,
because injuries are going to hit you.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Seventeen game seasons and when you start to think about
the last half of the season. The Cowboys have the
toughest schedule in National Football League. Some of the teams
they got to face out here in the back, it's
it's hard.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Man.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
You got the Chargers, you got the Chiefs, you got
the Lions. You still have to go to the Commanders
on Christmas Day. I don't care that you just beat
the Jesus out of them. It's still no fun going
to travel and work on Christmas Day. And because you
got to get a Christmas Eve for the Christmas Day game.
So I mean, I know I've done that a few times.
I have not that's because you the sports directly, Bobby, Bobby,
(36:56):
let me know how it goes.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
We get off, we're already trying to figure ot out. Okay,
we are gonna also coordinate it where we're doing Christmas
in DC, And so we're already having to figure out plans.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
What times the game three? They got to you can't
get avoided game? Yes, you can't get home? Yeah, no,
you're there, you're there. Oh you know what y'all should do?
Speaker 1 (37:18):
It's nude. I'm sorry, nune on Netflix. Oh so you
got this. You can get home, You can get home.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
You get home for Christmas night?
Speaker 5 (37:24):
Net flit or let's go back in one of those
years the Cowboys played New Orleans on Christmas Eve.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
You stay in New Orleans. That's an easy one.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
No, man, Jerry sent the plane back for the beat writers.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yes, you can't take that. That's get journalistice take.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
Why you think I'm telling it twenty five years later
because the bosson didn't know took the plane back. And
that was not the only beat, right, in there. Everybody
else can speak for themselves.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
So you all gave Jerry check for the plane, right,
shook his hand and thanked him.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
I would like to say that I would never be
involved in such a thing. NFL off your listeners.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
To the jet back. Okay, had cocktails on the jet too, all.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Right, Bobby. Also speaking on Jerald Wayne Jeral Wayne Jones,
George Pickens spoke after the game about Pickings and you know, hey,
agent should be a problem on but the price tag
keeps going up for this young man after every game
he plays. And Dak Prescott. And I asked jac last Thursday,
hey you go to Jerry to say something to him.
(38:26):
He's like, yeah, I will. If they're going to get
the best out of Dak Prescott, they need to have
these two players. In my opinion, now here's the only question.
Here's the only question.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
Do you and you have nobody can know except the
people involved. Do you think you will get this George
Pickings after you get paid.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
That's a very good and fair question, That's what I'm saying.
And this is one where you have to rely on
your head coach and your quarterback to go to them
to say what are we seeing what do we think
will change. It's kind of like Tara Loans. Tara Loans
is happy for half a second when they paid him.
Then when he thought he won't get his money, he acted.
Speaker 5 (39:07):
And see, that's what I'm saying, Like if even if
you talk about whether he's gonna get a long term
deal or whether you're gonna get franchise some players, you
franchise them and they.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Go, oh, I'll take that money, no problem.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
And some players like okay. Then you'd have to know
which one is the age. He's not exactly doing nobody's people.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
This is a and I mean, this is an organization
that over the years has had concerns about paying somebody.
They ultimately do it and it's been fine. They've had
other instances of zero concerns about paying somebody and then
they pay him and they go, oh, it's it's it's
a different it's a different it's a different player, it's
a different person now in the locker room. And it's
one of those things where I don't know how much
(39:49):
you you you will be able to see it in advance.
I think that George Pickens seems genuinely happy here and
seems genuinely got beat here. I also think George Pickens
has never been a guy who's afraid to show you
how he feels about something or to talk to you
about how he feels something about something. So I mean,
I think that personality type that he is, he's the
(40:10):
kind of guy that, to me, I would actually not
have concerns about, because I would say, I think he's
going to be that guy regardless, because that's who he's
always been.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
We don't know these guys, we don't know. All we
can go buy is what we see is parcels. As
you say, That's what I would say. What is the
head coach saying, what is the quarterback saying? And what
is my more importantly, what's my position coach saying? What
are we seeing? Because it's always a gamble, It's always
a gamble. And can you be deceived in pool? Yes, yes,
(40:41):
it happens. But I know what I've seen so far
makes me say I'll take that opportunity. I'll take the
chance because.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
I think he makes the quarterback, Betty makes c D
Betty makes the offense better.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
He's he's that.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
Deep ball is starting to click that was not click
in the first two weeks, it's hitting now.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
And so I had asked him this week, I said,
are you are you on point with that where you
guys can look at each other and you just have
this chemistry. He said, not yet. We're seeing getting there.
We're seeing them get that. And so I go back
to this one thing, Jack, and I'll let you go.
When I think about Peyton Manning, who was an excellent
talent in himself, that's why he's in the Hall of Fame.
But Bill Polly always made sure he had targets. He
(41:21):
walks in here, there's Marvin Harrison. They drafted regulating. They
use a first round pick on Anything's Oz, the wire receiver.
They use a first round pick on Dallas called the
tit End. They used first round picks on Edrin James,
and they and the kid Donald from they kept putting
talent around him, and he kept on putting up numbers.
What have we seen from Dok Prescott this year? But wow,
you know, instead of CDs and the Maybes at CD
(41:42):
and picking and a rejuvenated Ferguson and this guy's playing
at another level, why would you not keep it going?
Speaker 5 (41:47):
No, that's and I think from Georgia's perspective. You didn't
spent your entire career with a bunch of busted quarterbacks.
Now you got a good one. Yeah, okay, you know,
do you want to go somewhere now, if you go
somewhere where the quarterbacks equally good? All right, but there's
only a handful.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Of those, right, And also the chemistry, Yeah, a lot
people people like Dak Prescott. He's a he's a good dude.
He's a good dude. It's a good dude. All right.
Let's end the show right there on a positive note.
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (42:16):
So you did it.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
You did it finally. It took the whole show broadcast
once you opened up the bag of chips. Everything just
you know what, people got.
Speaker 4 (42:25):
Happy tostitos bring the positivity.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
I like that tagline. I'm gonna use it.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Yes, they do that. They listen to Bobby belt on
one O five three the Fan every morning. Jaques Taylor's
working on a fantastic book. You're gonna want to read it.
I can't say much more than that, but I'm telling
you right now you're gonna want to read it. I'm
just merely new scrugs. This is the media mash. Thanks
everybody involved, dallascowboick dot com. This has been a production
of Dallascowboys dot com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club
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