February 19, 2025 • 47 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
This is media Match, a roundtable of Cowboys insiders, trumping
wisdom and offering sizzling takes on the current state of
your Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Now your host, Newie Scrugs.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yo, it's all your favorite media people here for the
media match.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
We've got real things to talk about.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
As the Cowboys introduced their assistant coaches to the media yesterday,
we do it with Joe Hooyt, All City Dallas, the
Hall of Famer. He is ed Warder and there is
most trusted player. He's my main doll. Claies Hill, All
City Dallas in the house. I merely new Strugs to
carry on the conversation.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
All City DLLs.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I say it differently. I noticed when you were I
asked how a question and introducing your so the coaches
yesterday you say it differently.
Speaker 6 (01:01):
Well, d LS is a tongue twister. The you know
what I mean?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
That is our brand. I know we're trying to get
people to know the brand.
Speaker 6 (01:08):
But it's like inherently Dallas minus.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
So I still call it Dallas thank you, because that's
what I think of with people nationally.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
No, that's what we think of.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I'm just saying though, that they're trying to get us
to get the brand and people's mindset.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
Yeah, it's not because.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Dallas is your Google. Dallas, you got to Google DLLs.
I was DLLs when you Google. Go to the Twitter
as our friend. Uh brand again the tika he's to
say it is DLLs is not Dallas.
Speaker 6 (01:36):
But she sells seashells by the Sea.
Speaker 7 (01:37):
Short.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
It's too much of a tongue twister. You know people
can find it.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
If they want to exactly.
Speaker 6 (01:41):
Yeah, does Google most trusted?
Speaker 4 (01:43):
You tell to get that payball down?
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Try to read your.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Story, sir, me too.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
It's it's it's just the way.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Well this looks like nothing topic.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Nothing is free.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Thank you, ed you and I the same thing.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
So forty one dollars to read this.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
I know you get a lot of stuff and that just.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
You get a free tish and you Joe too, Joe stuff.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
So go ahead tell us about your story. I could
pay for it.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
He saved us some coins. So no idea, what's your road?
Speaker 5 (02:11):
I got you?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
It was here and Joe was here, and basically it
was just a rehash of things that we got yesterday
talking to the assistant coaches. One thing, he was there,
I know, I'm sorry, I know he was there merely work.
But you know there was a you talked to the
coaches and they all talked about Shotty having a clear vision,
you know, and the clear vision, clear direction of what
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they wanted, what he wants, how he wants this organization
to look.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
And you know, obviously it's running the ball obviously on
the offense, to be physical and violent on defense, take
the ball away. But have you know a family oriented
have a connection with the players. It's about the players.
Certainly has the schemes, but it's about the players. But
I'm just talking to different coach. Yeah, everybody has these
same messages. Uh, But during this time when they're in
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the whole and then the meeting and rooms are all together,
all in the good room, he is continually stressing his
messages to us coaches. And you saw yesterday they were
parroting everything that they the same things.
Speaker 8 (03:12):
Yeah, I think there's a question with things like this,
like how much does coach speak, how much is genuine?
But I think at the very least these are things
that Brian Schoenheimer is really conveyed to them and made clear.
And I think the biggest thing specifically an offense is
the physicality that he wants them to have. You saw
Clayton Adams, the new offensive coordinator. His smile lit up
and then he got real intense when he started talking
about the violence that he wants these guys to play with.
And I think that that's something that Brian Schoenheimer is
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really preaching to them. My question though, and we were
gonna find this out yesterday, and I wondered, was this
a cop out or was this genuine in terms of, hey,
this is right at the beginning of the evaluation. Is
what about the personnel, because you can't be violent without
violent people, and especially with the running game. I asked
Clayton Adams, Hey, you had James Connor in Arizona, but
like you got a lot of openings here on this
running back personnel and there's not a guy who's got
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the physicality that you want to kind of carry out
that vision.
Speaker 6 (03:57):
How do you kind of go about getting that. He's like,
it's too early for that, It's too early for that.
Speaker 8 (03:59):
But I think that's gonna be a big question as
we move into the next stage of the offseason. How
do you get guys to kind of be representative of
the vision that you want Brian Schottenheimer.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Did you believe it when he said it is too early?
Speaker 5 (04:09):
No?
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Okay, neither.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I'm glad I didn't pay forty one dollars for that.
It's a physical game, Clarence, no doubt. This is a
physical game, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Don't whine well during the break, I'm going to get
the passwords.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
To get the free access.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
What were your takes from yesterday?
Speaker 3 (04:35):
And not all that different from yours, But I mean
who doesn't say all that first time they meet the media.
Does anybody ever say we want to be a finesse team,
you know, we want to rely on speed and imagination,
and we're not really interested in taking the ball away.
We'll just get it whenever they give it to us.
So yeah, I mean, none of that stuff is all
(04:55):
that's surprising to hear, but it is consistent with this
thought that they do want to be do want to
create an identity where they run the football on offense,
and that I mean that takes back to the Jason
Garrett era, right, I mean, that's what he emphasized and
that's what's worked for this organization through time is running
the football, play action, passing, and playing defense. And if
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they can do those things, then they're gonna have a
chance in the division.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
You know, one thing that struck me certainly, you just
talking to the defensive coordinator and all the defense coaches.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
It's one thing to say, we're going to allow Michael.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Parson duty does best and get to the quarterback. Certainly,
he's in his third defensive coordinator in the last four years,
and you know it's you know, making them comfortable allow
him to continue to rush the pass. Because Influence is
not a guy who moves people around like Dan Quinn
did do the Worlds, whereas Waldo thing he kind of
lets you rush from your sides and go get the quarterback.
But he said, you know, Michael's primary position will be
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rushing the quarterback and it's not being the linebackers getting
out of the quarterback. He and Aaron Whitecotton, defensive line coach,
bothtly echoed the same thing. But the thing that struck me,
and maybe because they have no difference tackles on the roster,
but they were very high on the impact that they
can make with one. Mizi Smith, who's largely been a
disappointment his first two years in league, stain he was
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disappointed a rookie, uh playing and dan Quinn's scheme, he
had to get up the field, and you.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Don't make it any easier on him changing the defensive
coordinator system every year.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
No.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
No, last year he was supposed to be more comfortable
than Mike Zimmer's scheme and he was on the field
because the ain't nobody else to play. But I don't
know if he was a difference maker. But these two
talked about his athleticism and uh being you know, thinking
he can get to the quarterback because they're going to be
more like dan Quinn. This defense is an attack defense.
They're going out to the quarterback. They stopping running away
back for the quarterbacks. And more than Marinelli's stuff is
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not reading and react stuff that they did on the Zimber,
which they said last year was what Mozi did best.
It's it's about attacking the quarterback. Here's a guy who's
been criticized for not getting off the ball, slow off
the ball, not better get in the backfield. That's what
I gonna be asking him to do and so sometimes
you you know, as we talked about on our show
this morning, they are supposed to be optimistic. But we
(07:08):
can't let him lie to us, right, We can't let
him think that Monsie's gonna suddenly be Quinn Williams.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Okay, I this is just me.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I took that as this is what you're supposed to say.
You're getting here. A part of you getting the job
is telling.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
What they want to hear. That was a great pick,
and I first, we'll make something out of this guy.
Nobody else came li it is you can lie about
it and then blame him for failing.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
I see what's there.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
I mean, it's it's the music producer who comes in
here says yeah, I think I can work with it.
I mean, and at some point in time, maybe they
are Jimmy jam and Terry Lewis when they said we
think we can do something with this janned Jackson who
never really had a hit, and they made the out
of control she became a star or it's just like, oh,
you can't say.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
But first of all, but she was a Jackson.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
First of all, so was okay, so was there.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Was a new people.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
She was a star. She was a start from a child.
Don't be doing it like that. Don't don't don't do now.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
You do not do nasty girl like that like she
was something guy she was not. She was not Jamaze,
she was not LaToya. She was She had started, but
she had star powers.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I did not see this coming.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
She had start power.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
She had start power from the beginning, back when she
was a baby.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
On good Time. She exuded star power.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
She was singing on good she had exhort what she
was on different strew.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
She had star power.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
She had fired the daddy. She still and she was
trying to find something in Jimmy James.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
Trying to find Bobby Brown. You don't she had start power.
Your history is terrible anyway. You just know I'm not
she had star powers Janet Jackson.
Speaker 9 (08:49):
But back to the Cowboy was starting, no no cook
one other one other thing that uh. And we're talking
about them saying the right things or saying things. They
kept talking about how great their cornerbacks were, how great
their cornerbacks.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
We got two of the best cornerbacks.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Two of the five best man two and I don't know.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
If one of them gonna be ready to start the season.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Who's available or play it all.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Play it all. I'm like, come on now, got me.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
May have a contract decision to make on him, right,
Not well, he never mentioned Jordan Lewis at all.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
No, he's maybe that they have no contract decision to
make on him because he's injury guaranteed with this year.
He can't cut him to next year. He's on his roster.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
Yeah, one thing too, we're talking about Diggs. Yeah, no,
I but also on his roster.
Speaker 8 (09:35):
But also one thing that Mattie Flues talked about was Hey,
you know, we're gonna we're gonna keep a simple We're
gonna try to take the ball away and stop the run.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Right.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
But I was find it funny because I tweeted that
exact quote. That funny.
Speaker 8 (09:44):
It was funny because I posted on Twitter and the
most reaction. I gotta think it's always telling when the
former team fans are the ones replying to you and
they're like, oh yeah, good luck with those soft covers.
Is on third down and long then and you know
all these things. And Bears fans were not too kind
about the the hiring of matt Ebra.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
He has the history of bember don't break. Yeah, that's
his scheme. He's going back to Marinella screen and let
you out on the field. They tied up at the Redson.
They bimb don't break.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
They have created turnovers wherever he's been. They've ranked pretty high,
both with the Colts and with the Bears in terms
of taking the football away.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I look at Ibra Fluss, one of my good friends
is a Bears fan too, and he's laughing and everything,
and I just said, look, I get it.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
But we have seen that there's several people who just
can't make that move three feet three you know, there
was a three inches three feet they call it. You know,
when you go from being the backup singing to singing.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
It's hard.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
It is hard.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Some people can't do. He couldn't do it, but back
over here he can do.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
Just prove it.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
He's a qualified defensive coordinator, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Dan Quinn showed us that. Because I was skeptical as man,
this dude has he gonna come here after that whole
debacle in Atlanta and that thing didn't dan Quinn showed
you he could still do this.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
This part of it. Phillips continued.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
After he left here and went to the Super Bowl
gave Sean McBay everything, did perfect game plan against Bill Belichick.
They offensively Sean McBay couldn't do his part. So I
look at Matt Eberflus with hope that Okay, I think
he can get back to but he's got to have
the tools. Okay, at the end of the he no,
damn magician. He needs some tools. That needs players.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Now. Now, they didn't none of the coaches talked in
any length or any detail about the personnel that they're
inheriting and too early for that, how committed they are
to keeping guys. So when we asked him about osa
Ozigi dua Zua, he I mean, we all know how
important that player is and what Matt Eberflus tries to do.
That's arguably the most important player on the field to
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him and his system. And he went out and got
a guy from Washington and sweat at a higher cost
to have that presence with the Bears. And he said, yeah,
we like him, but we like a lot of guys
like he completely made no gave no interest in how
committed they are to trying to make a competitive bid
to keep him on this rock.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
And I will ask you, guys, and I'm like Odiggy
Zoo have been like him since he's a great guy,
great kid, certainly has made the most of his opportunities.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
A third round pick. Is he a difference maker? Is he?
Speaker 3 (12:13):
I mean, I don't know, But if you let him go,
then aren't you just trying to draft another guy to
replace him and then make hope he's not as good.
You're going to be a draft and developed team. Then
you got it. When you get a guy and you
draft him and you develop him and he's something, you got.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
To keep him. I agree.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I'm just saying though he could be getting twenty four
million dollars a year, certainly, at least twenty million dollars
a year. Is he worth that? I guess, And I'm
worth it as a term because I don't know if Deck.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Well, if you lose him and then you have to
draft his replacement with the twelfth pick, what if you
really accomplished in the offseason.
Speaker 8 (12:43):
But here's the only thing with the pots of Line
is they don't have a lot of guys in general
at all right now in that room. So yeah, I
think if you had enough guys and you're saying, hey,
we just need one guy to be the three technique
to be the dude. I'm cool with paygos so that
much money if you can kind of move the cap around.
But they need a lot of guys, and I know
this draft is deep at defensive line. So your point,
you're gonna be doing an exercise and trying to find oh,
Dicky's SEO once again. But you might have to have
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multiple guys. And I just don't know if twenty four
million dollars for.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Me already say you don't trust Bozzie Smith, now the
one guy you do trust, go I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
Even if you pay, you're gonna draft him back.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
You still, this draft is deep in defensive tackle, you know,
and so you're going on draft some about the defense
line anyway. I mean, okay, let's take a step further
than what about Williams from Philadelphia. You know, he considered
to be the Milton Williams.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
He may be the number one defense tackle on the board.
If you're gonna pay, oh so why not pay him.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
You're gonna get him.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
He's from Fort Worth, there's a chance. But I mean
you got a bid for him.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
I mean, if you're gonna pay that type of money, first,
of all, why.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Get to this point.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
That's that's the real problem.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
That's yeah, but we can't go back.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
And you know, well you gotta change at some point,
so change it now.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Well you can't.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
You already should have done Micah, you should have already
done O. Dicky Zuo, you should have.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
But you can't go back. Diggis is contraxxlf.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
You can't go back and pay him before it is
carters able to get him at a discount.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
Debraid is gonna be what the rate is.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
So if you're gonna pay that rate, why not pay
the rate for Milton Williams rather than pay that rate
for Diggie Zewa is what I'm asking. If you're gonna
pay that rate.
Speaker 8 (14:13):
Firston, I use that money to bring back Chauncey Golson
and then go get a couple of guys and.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
Said, Chauncey's the defensive end. He's not a tackle.
Speaker 8 (14:19):
No no, no, no, no. But what I'm saying, no,
but look at your whole defense. No, you got you
got holes everyone.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, But I'm just what you Marcus Lawrence.
Speaker 8 (14:26):
Yeah, Marcus Lawrence is gone. You're bringing back Mazzie Smith
in the back of chips right now. You need to
go get more guys. It's not there's a lot of dudes.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
The defensive tackle spot, to me is still the that's
the issue. You're you're in division now, Saquon Barkley, they're
the world champions. You've got you. You haven't stopped the
run for four years. Put some resources over there, put
more resources over there.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
And every good team beat you the same way.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
And my problem for Mike Zimmer when he got here
is I said, the carpenter doesn't have his tools. And
so when that's happening, you're asking dudes to be magicians
and move this guy, move that guy, or go ask
somebody who's sitting on the couch forever in the day
to come on and give us what you got and
give us thirteen plays and here's the IV machine.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
And get some get some oxing in. I mean, this
is what they've done.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
And Eddie leaves and goes to places in Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
So they've got to stop doing that at some point
in time.
Speaker 10 (15:20):
It's a great transition, yes, because we go to break
because a tool like to come back. Those tools are
available now. According to Dag Graziano, I mean, go get
some tools. You got money, go get some tool.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
After the break our own Clarence Hill will tell us
about these tools right here on.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
The on the money to get the tools.
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He's Clarence Hill, All City d ls is that it
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Joe Hoyt of All City Dallas.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
He's the youngster of the group and I'm merely he
strugged to carry out the conversation here, okay, sir well.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
The NFL basically informed teams today that the salary cap
would jump to somewhere between two hundred and seventy seven
and two hundred and eighty one million dollars. That is
way up from last year's cap of two fifty five
point four.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
Last two years of cap has increased over fifty three
million dollars. Uh.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
So the Cowboys have making a complaint of talking about
having cap issues because I tied the cap is going
to be Uh.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
No one expected to jump this much this year.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
So that shit helped the Cowboys saw some of their
cap woes. You know, certainly they're not the team with
the most cap on. But she kept himself some of
the cap bolls so they can be players active in
free to see if they want to be, if they.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Want to be, and it's up to them. Uh.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
One person who took very much note of this one
Michael Parsons.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
He tweeted LFG.
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So that's either LFG paid me or LFG you got
money to pay some other guys in addition to paying me.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
But LFG none the same good friends.
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It's a call to action. According to Micah Let's freak.
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Let's freaking GOLFGFJ.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yes, yes, yes, so, I mean Jerry's been talking going
back to camp. He talked about, you remember when the
pandemic we had to have less money. He just talked
about being you know, this doom day scenario out there
and everybody thought it was gonna be the ticket lawsuit
from the Sunday ticket lawsuit or something.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
That was gonna bring the cap down. He's I can't.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
I gotta be careful because you know, I know the forecast,
I know the future forecast, but anybody I know what
the economics of the league is going to be.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
And Scott, the sky is not the sky is not falling. Okay?
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Why I think it's interesting that Micah Parsons, who is
gonna get the biggest contract this offseason of anybody with
this franchise, and maybe the biggest in the league this offseason,
certainly in position for it, and there have been no talk.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
And Mark Chaon wants forty million dollars.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
You think he's gonna get more than Michael Parsons.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
The Bengals.
Speaker 8 (20:21):
From the Bengals, who have they couple other guys they
have to sign.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
From the Bengals they could have signed. You think Mike
Brown's gonna spend Jerry.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
They could have signed up a thirty five. Last year
they didn't sign him. He went off and they had
one of the best seasons ever before receiver.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
But it's interesting that his whole thing that going into
this offseason is, you know, I don't have to be
the highest paid non quarterback in football. There when he
said I have to be, And he has said he
wants his contract to be done early so can benefit
the team in free agency. And now they've got an
extra twenty two to twenty six million dollars that they
didn't expect to have, And here we are talking about
(20:59):
how they're gonna let all these guys go. What's his
reaction going to be to that? How is that going
to change his willingness to sign here for a reasonable
sum of money.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
He's gonna sign.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Oh right, I've always gotta play here.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
He's gonna sign.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
When he signed them to the Ridge's contract.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Whin Yeah, it win is an issue, but he's he's
gonna be willing to you say, a willingness. So I'm
dealing with the willingness he's gonna be willing to sign.
Speaker 8 (21:22):
Here's the interesting thing too, though, And you pointed this
outthead and yeah, they got twenty five million dollars to
play with now, but so does every other NFL team
out there.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
And I think that this also is kind of not
only a call.
Speaker 8 (21:32):
Yeah, it's a call not only to for the every
the Cowboys do action, but everyone else, like the Philadelphia
Eagles have shown to be very very aggressive with a
little bit of aound the cap space. How do you
think they're feeling over there right now when they see
how we got twenty five million dollars more to play
with than to push things back? The Micah Parsons call
to action is really more relevant now than ever because hey,
you got to do You have room now to do things.
Everyone else is going to do something. Why don't you
(21:53):
do it too?
Speaker 3 (21:53):
And you have motivation. You're the third best team in
your division.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
Right Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
But you know what's the happiest the players because this
means more money. He's gonna be more money out there
for freatenency. All those contracts are going up, so you
know Osa is gonna get his twenty million, you know,
no doubt or whatever else they're gonna do. It's nobody's
come in on cheap deals because people got money to spend.
They have to spend the money. Uh, they don't necessarily
have extra twenty million. It just projected more than what
(22:19):
it was, so it's probably gonna go up ten million,
you know as.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
Well at the seventy seven days now under the cow.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Yeah yeah, yeah, not susaridly got an extra twenty million,
but yes, it's probably an extra test.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
Million that they didn't project.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
So, but the relevant numbers are that the Cowboys have
not participated in a significant extent in free agency. And
when they had the Brian Schottenheimer introductory press conference and
Steven was asked about following the Eagles model, he was
still very noncommittal about it, like and Jerry didn't say, hey,
we are we we we've realized that we've got to
(22:54):
use this aspect to improve our roster like it like
so many other teams do, especially teams like the Eagles
in our division and Washington at our expense. And there
was no commitment that they were going to do this.
And if you look at the numbers, they spent the
fewest amount of free agency dollars last year, eighteen point
(23:16):
eighty five eleven one year contracts, that's what they and
they were the last team to sign a player, and
they've been the last team to sign an unrestricted free
agent three of the last four years.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
Yeah, and here are the here's the Eagles.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Jeffrey Lourie is selling, you know, eight percent of his franchise,
so he has more capital to invest in improving his
roster the Giants are now doing. Then, is Jerry ever
going to sell a fraction of a franchise? No, No,
he doesn't want anybody else be called an owner.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
No battle Boys.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
When we said yeah, buy out all those people to
make sure came in.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
And we said nobody else. We mean nobody else.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
We need Charlotte Steven But what wasn't Steve introduced as
a co owner?
Speaker 5 (23:57):
Yeah, okay, so I'm an alcohol owner.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Jerry ownes fifty one percent or something like that, and
and the kids on the wrist.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
But the Cowboys have ranked twenty seventh in free age
and spending since twenty seventeen. They haven't been in the
top twenty since they were nineteenth and Dak's rookie year.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Yeah, and that's what kills me about. And that was
Dak's rookie year. But we'll by his second year. They
didn't spend a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Well, last year they were thirty second in twenty twenty three.
That were twenty eighth year before they their twenty fifth
year before that they're twenty sixth. Year before that, they're
twenty first. Year before that, that were thirtieth year before that,
they were twenty ninth, twenty seventeen, they were twenty third, right,
you know.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
So that's what kills me when people talk about Dak's
money and how Dak's money limits the Cowboys from signing anyone.
They won't sign anybody anyway. When they had Dak on
a rookie deal, they didn't sign anybody. They were not
players of radiency. So it's not like if that doesn't
get sixty million, they're gonna use that money and something
they haven't done that that was shown they're gonna do that.
Speaker 8 (24:53):
Yeah, it's not about only spending, it's about how creative
you spend, and they've proven a lack of creativity in
this regard.
Speaker 6 (24:58):
The one thing Jerry did say, we gotta get better
with the cal.
Speaker 8 (25:00):
But until you see them actually do it and manipulate that,
then there's no reason to trust that they would increase.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
That free agency.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
They know how to manipulate the cap.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
They might know, but they haven't shown it.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
Yeah, they have no willingness to do exactly.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
I mean, none of this is rockets so what the
Eagles are doing anybody else is doing is not rocket science.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
So will the fact that the Eagles have now won
a second Super Bowl with their second head coach.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Will that be the impetus?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
And having Brian Schottenhimer here knowing right now the fan
base was underwhelmed by the hire, would that?
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Were you going to support this guy or not? Well,
like you hired him, you promoted him. Nobody else did
that in this hiring cycle. Nobody else promoted their head
their coordinator to a head coach, a non play calling coordinator.
So he's got two jobs you didn't have last year.
Are you going to support this guy or not?
Speaker 6 (25:51):
And he can't succeed you without that support.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
And that's why I wonder about just the free agency aspect.
And was it training camp when Steven said, hey, all
the tickets.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Are sold, the highest renewal rate in the right Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah that happened last year.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
He started that and the owners meeting in March, but yes,
he talked about the renewal rate and everybody re upping.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
What will they re up this year?
Speaker 3 (26:14):
You think we'll start to get some sense of this
next week when they're at the combine, and yeah, I
think you'll start getting made. The Hawks are had.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
And unofficial raidings to begin to the combine, and so
they're you know, obviously you got agents there with their clients,
agents who have also free agents, and they have conversations
and to think about the Cowboys, they can talk about
their own guys. The thing about the Cowboys is they
have so many of their own freightings. They have to
sign guys just to fill out a roster. Okay, they
have and that's not including going and improving the roster
(26:45):
by signing guys who weren't here. They got to start
filling out holes just to fill their football team. We
talked about they have one really defensive tackle on the
roster that's signed on the roster. Actually, if you conclude
Justin Rodgers as too, and maybe some of the guys
you got on the practice, but I mean Mazie and
Justin Rodgers is really all you got a defensive tackle.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
You got to sign bodies.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
Look at their running back room.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
Yeah, same thing with a running back room, the linebacker room.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
Quarterback.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, they have one quarterback on the roster, you know,
and so they got to sign bodies, so they they
will add people. Adding people is not the same as
being all in. Though they have to add people because
they have to fill out the roster. Is a difference
them going all in and adding difference making players to
improve the talent, they've got.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
To addressed the defensive tackle.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Yeah, to me, I mean that just that, that has
to be job number one. You are in a division
where you got the world champions and.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
The other team that went to the NFC Championship game,
a team on the rise with a rookie quarterback.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
A rookie quarterback who can run, and they're going to
add to their running game. I thought Eckler didn't have
his best year, but he's still a very good player.
And Eckland Robinson, they've got a running attack. So to me,
it has to start there. You did, you know so,
so while they put resources, I mean shot, he wants
to run it, you better stop it too.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
It has to be.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
It has to go both ways.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Run it, stop it because it we gonna stop running.
How do you gonna stop run? They been saying, never
last for you. They got to stop shop the run.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
You need defensive tackles and mine backers that they don't have,
and to run the football. You need a dynamic player
at running back that they don't have. So where are
these guys coming from.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
It's interesting that, Yeah, I asked Clayton Adams about his
rushing offense and how the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Kicked in Kyler Murray real quick on if I saw that.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Yes, is just something that I was happy about that
because I was going to ask that the success.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Of the offense is the quarterback run from You don't
have that in doubts, you know, And he did not
back down from the.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
Fact that he likes the quarterback when they able to run.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
In certain situations, but a goal line places where you
really got to have it.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
That's when that he didn't back down from that though.
So I need that PILATEI you get the rehab I need.
I needed to stretch that leg out.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Maybe that's when you put Trey Lanser cl Clayton play.
Speaker 12 (29:00):
Is the.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Clayton called the place.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
I understand that.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
I understand that that's part what you brought it here
for what he brings to the running game, and the
QB run is part of that. And then that's the
thing about that that frustrates me about the whole thing
with Dak is that that's who you were, That's that's
what made you great in college, that's what made you
specially early to see early in your career. The idea
that they just completely went away from that when the
league was coming towards that. You have to Lamark Jackson's
coming league, Nigga's going toward the QB run and you
(29:28):
went away from that.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
It's been some time.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Is that more trying to make Dak tom Brady and
that was saying it was that more McCarthy or a
consciousness by Dak.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Or was it the investment the franchise meeting.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Well, it's just like it's just like going back then.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
We're old enough to remember in Philly when they discouraged
dom mic Now from running and tried to make him
a pocket pass and when running is what part of
made him great.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Although some people say he wanted to be proving to
be a pocket.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Right because that was the mindset.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
If you're not a real quarterback less you're parcketing path,
you have long jevity, you have no longevity in this league.
If you're not in a pocket pass, we don't do
the tom Brady and Peyton Manning model. Rather than carveon
Niche and I think that's the same thing with that. Yes,
I think some of it was the coach and some
of them jaredsonly after got injured, but part of it
was Deck.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
That was his whole mindset being preached about, you know,
you need.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
To be able to stay in the pocket for longevity
and build, you know, rather than just do.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
What you do.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
But Clarence insulted him into being a running quarterback again,
and look at how that turned out.
Speaker 8 (30:23):
Well, he was actually running well in that game too,
which is the crazy part about it. And then obviously
if you haven't right, he had their longest run of
the season.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
He should just stop ten yards earliest.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Yeah, and it's meat off the bone.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
He left the meat on the bone.
Speaker 6 (30:40):
He was off the bone, off the bone.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
But even Schottenheimer's offenses and when he was calling plays
in Seattle involved a running quarterback and Sir Wilson, who
was at the height of his powers at the time,
and you know he was reluctant to let the ball
out of his hands and clutch situations like he ran.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
That's what he did, right, he was and he was decisive.
That's the thing. You got it when you do what
you got be decisive.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
One thing that you look at what Jalen hurts and
those guys, even Patrick Mahomes when he decides to get
really decisive with it, because you.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
Don't you don't have to be fast.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
But if you're not gonna be fast, be decisive, so
you get because that is not very fast, but neither
is Patrick Mahons.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
I think the one of the commonalities all four of
the teams that got to the AFCN NFC Championship games
had were quarterbacks who ran for at least three hundred yards,
and obviously Daniels ran for way more than that. He
led He led Washington and rushing and passing, and that's
not uncommon for Josh Allen to do. But I think
those that's not gonna happen here anymore.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Which is placing more importance on finding a real running game,
real running game. And so the draft, draft and free agency.
They've got to look at defensive tackle, you gotta look
at the run back, running back. You gotta control the
lines if you're going to win this division. I mean,
clearly the blueprint is out here. You've got to control
(31:54):
the lines. And something they have not done. They tried
to walk work around and tap dance around.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
They fail.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Last year was miserably failing. And then you start to
look at this year's schedule. I mean, you got to
go to the AFC West face them. You gotta go
to the NFC North and face them along with Philly twice,
Washington twice. You've got to fix the defensive tackle, defensive line, offensive.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Line, all right when we come back? Is the franchise
tag usable on any player?
Speaker 5 (32:23):
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Speaker 5 (35:39):
Oh my god, and such a.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Hater and paid as such in the background.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Franchise tag, Yes, anybody worthy of it, especially now that
we see the salary cap in here going to be
uh moving up here to to to seventy seven.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
It was just like our conversation earlier, you know, and
look we all like, O DIGGI zoo. Is he worth
twenty million dollars a year? And that's what the franchise
tag is for a defensive tackle, you know.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
No, I seemed to even more than that for him.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Yeah twenty four.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
Yeah, twenty four y yeah, over twenty million dollars. I
mean that is that.
Speaker 6 (36:19):
He's going to get that, he may get that, he
will get on the market.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
If you're gonna what I'm saying, even before the cap
thing came out, if you're gonna franchise.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Dan Quint's already pacing outside his residence right now.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
Well, either I heard they're trading for the guy from Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
I mean, you know milescare Yeah, we'll have them both.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Ye And they got as much as cap room as
anybody watching it has a lot of cap room to
play with. So, but if you're gonna franchise, you might
want sign to a deal because you franchise, you have
to carry that whole weight on your on your on
your sory cap. So it doesn't help you, you know,
try to sign on the guys and you don't really
want a twenty four million dollar a hit if you're gonna,
if you're gonna consider franchise, if that's gonna be the case,
(36:57):
then sign them to a deal so you can less
than his cap figure. But that's a lot of money
outside of him. There's really nobody you're worthy of franchise.
Speaker 8 (37:05):
Yeah, because if you sign him, you can manipulate it
long term rather than just taking that twenty four million dollars.
Coavin and then Stills allow you to go get more
defensive lineman. Because that's the problem I keep coming back
to is they need bodies, they need dudes. They need
a lot of help there. And if you ask three
rookies to do it on the draft from the draft,
I don't know if they can step up immediately carry
that kind of way.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Yeah, it's tough for defensive line. But you look at
the Eagles and we love what they've done with the
Georgia guys. But Jalen Carter wasn't Jaalen Carter as a rookie.
Nola Smith wasn't Nola Smith as a rookie. Davis wasn't
Davis as a rookie. You know, you know, they they've
molded and come into those.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
Guys, you know. So it's hard for those guys at
that position.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
And I'm not making exclusive for Mizie, but for their
really to have impact as rookies.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
But he's not a rookie, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
So the Cowboys tried just the opposite strategy of last
year from that, right, They waited until training camp was
almost over and brought in guys who had played twelve
or fifteen years, so we're retired.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
Yeah, called on the cow So who was on the
cow That's that is not the move at all.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
But yeah, no franchise tag day, transient transition day, it start,
could start it yesterday.
Speaker 5 (38:12):
I don't see the cowboy.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
I wouldn't use it, but I would be threatening, ohso
with it right now, trying to get him to sign
a multi year deal, Like, if you don't sign a
multi year deal, you're not going to free agency. We're
gonna we're gonna franchise that.
Speaker 5 (38:22):
He'll say, good, I'll take twenty four million this year.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
You don't have to be telling him the truth.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
I'll take twenty four million this year. Oh give me
twenty four Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
But would you rather fully get out of eighty.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Eighty is coming next year because you ain't gonna do
it back to back by wait, you ain't gonna do
it back to back years. I'll be back in the
market making that capital. The cap might go up another
twenty million, I'll be packing. I'm gonna take that, you know,
just like there running back Tony politic that I'm planning
the franchise tag for a year next.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
One thing that you're not going to do it back
to back years. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (38:51):
One thing they can't threaten them, in my opinion, is
the transition tag. I think that's been kind of a conversation.
If you're threatening an eighteen million dollars one year while
you can still negotiate with others. That's going to do
absolutely nothing, because you were going to significantly exceed on
the open market eighteen million.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Except they would get a pick back.
Speaker 8 (39:05):
If you know that's the thing. You get no compensation
for transition. Take there's transition just right at first refusal exactly, yeah,
and yeah, I don't that would make no sense.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
I did not talk to the special teams coordinator yesterday
at all.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
You need for the former forty nine of defense coordinator
Nick Sortinson got the big flat hat, flat hat, big
flat hat. He said all the right things, but what
he say was he works for Shottenheimer. Shottenhammer don't work
for him. He does not make decisions when fake goal,
when the fake punt, when he lost players can't acting,
(39:41):
wasn't If there's any it's going to be shouting from
the head coach, it won't be coming from him.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
I asked, how's your fake put?
Speaker 6 (39:51):
When I heard I heard a little chuckle.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
That is such dirty work.
Speaker 8 (39:55):
I heard a chuckle behind me before he even asked it.
I heard it like I'm in the engine, you're getting
ready to go, and says you weren't here.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
But there was a lot of ACTI base way ahead, coach.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
There's way how much activating coach like boo.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Boo wow, fake punts at the thirty were going, Now
do you do that in your boy, that's some dirty work.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
I'm just saying.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
But you.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
Got to have especially coach on the least. Okay, you
just can't.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
That head coach is not here anymore.
Speaker 5 (40:28):
Run his own program.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
I'm sure, right, Shottenheimer's learn from them.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
It's got run out of sair on l A.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Right.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Like I said, this is Brian shotting Man. I don't
really remember things, Ed. Can you recall any activations under
Marty Schottheimer.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
I think I think the Shottenheimer is kind of had
a conservative conservatives.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Pretty good from during the years. So, I mean, the
special teams could look different. They've got some good players
here that they need to re sign out.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Yeah, and you made the point about they need to
resign their punter and who's also the older and the
long snapper.
Speaker 8 (41:06):
Yeah, they got a great battery that's been a Pro
Bowl battery. But two of those three guys are missing.
He did say that, hey, you know, we're gonna want
to get them back. And you know, I've heard nothing
but great things and so I mean, we'll see what
else is he supposed to say about this.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
We're not going to belabor the long snapper. Okay, they
will find it long snap.
Speaker 6 (41:21):
Did they have any issues at long snapping?
Speaker 5 (41:22):
They will, they will find it long snap.
Speaker 8 (41:23):
There are two tiers. There are two tiers of long snappers,
those who mess up and those don't.
Speaker 5 (41:27):
And the Cowboys journally have founded a long snapper.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Yeah, they were going back to the illustrat that you
have a pretty good a long snapper LPE probably l LP.
Speaker 5 (41:37):
Ready to come back.
Speaker 6 (41:38):
Hey, there are bad long snappers out there.
Speaker 5 (41:39):
Yeah, the Cowboys have generally never had one.
Speaker 6 (41:42):
Trent wasn't one of them.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
So they'll they'll get a long snapper, and I think
they'll you know, they'll be okay at punter.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
So we can't afford our long snapper or punter. We're
gonna draft.
Speaker 9 (41:52):
Well, what if we franchise bring up the USFL or
UFL The punt return is also a free agent.
Speaker 8 (41:58):
He is a well restricted. Yeah, but what if your
franchise tag the long snapper. I mean, you take the
three highest long snappers salaries. I think that actually could
be a deal.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
I'm in on this long snapper is happy to be
on the team, Sir, he was franchise told me the contract.
Speaker 5 (42:10):
My family have been a couple of years. What do
you want me to sign?
Speaker 6 (42:13):
What about the punter?
Speaker 5 (42:13):
Though, punter probably gonna be the same way.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Okay, Yeah, so you're not scared if Fossil decides to
take them down to Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Within I mean, who the longer, He's not scared of it,
as long as they don't take the kick returner and
the kicker.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Fossil loves Anger's arms.
Speaker 5 (42:34):
Activation long they don't take the kicker and the kick returner.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
Just asking, just asking. Any other nuggets from the assistant
coach media gathering.
Speaker 14 (42:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (42:48):
One guy I talked with a lot was David over Street,
the new Corners coach. And I think that when people
look at last year's staff to this year, one big
loss that they talk about is Al Harris, right, and
how are we going to replace Al Harris? David Overstreet
said a lot of things. I think he had the
best quot of the day when he said that, Hey,
you know, when the ball's in the air, I tell
my guys that ball is yours. That with the quarterback
through it. That means he doesn't want it anymore. And
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if he's throwing it at targeting you, that means he
thinks that your guy is better than him, So go
out and take offense to that. And I kind of
like that energy. I think that that's going to be
one thing to kind of follow is how does David
Overstreet's unit compared to what Al Harris's unit did, because
I think.
Speaker 6 (43:21):
A lot of people look at that as a huge loss.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
I thought the other interesting thing was both on the
offensive and defensive sides. I mean, we talked about guys
saying what they're supposed to say, but at the same time,
you're kind of calling guys out. And Aaron Whitecotton, the
defensive line coach, did that, and so did the offensive
line coach from your Kansas state, Connor Riley. Both of
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them talking about finishing and you're gonna do that or
you're not going to play. And I mean, I thought
that was kind of an interesting common theme that some
of the I.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Was wondering and Baby Belle asked a question about finishing,
and I think he was taking a shot at Misi.
I think that was a Misi directed question, and that
was the answer, You're gonna finish, you're gonna run with
energy or run to the.
Speaker 5 (44:07):
Ball, because those are things the air. I mean, Rob
Marinelli talked about.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
You know, if you remember Mack, he made those you
know lows, he made those guys sign the you know,
his mere controversy, made the guy sign this agreement before
he signed the contract that you will run hard and
you won't loaf.
Speaker 5 (44:20):
You know, that's something that has been a big part
of this.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
That's not in the player standard player contract. That was
end that.
Speaker 5 (44:28):
Didn't done with.
Speaker 4 (44:29):
But just at that work out.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
How did lens but Connor Riley was talking about he
was he was not. He was kind of sort of
noncammental about where Cooper bebe?
Speaker 2 (44:37):
That was the question I asked, Yeah, because because Cooper
was an All American guard for him out there at
Kansas date that's where he played the entire time. And
then then he talked about, well he did play.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
Right every race, He started a game at every place
on the offensive line excepts center. Then he comes to
Dallas and he starts what ninety seven percent of the
snaps at center and outperforms the first round draft pick
who was an offensive lineman as well. While making the
conversion from a position change and going from college to
pros is a third round pick. I mean, pretty incredible
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year he had, so he was.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Better than that first round pick in college though. Picked
because of potential, not because of production.
Speaker 4 (45:15):
But this is just me, I wonder do you go
with I'll go back to Andre Gerrott.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Andre Gerard was a All American guard at Colorado, but
then Bill ended up putting him at center right figured
it out late, but he played some center there and
they ended up going to the big Total championship game,
beating Longhoors that day. It was a lot of the
strength of him. Sorry, do they do that same thing
with Connor Beeble? Hey man, Let's put you back where
we know you can excel. But I know some people
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get into the short arms and all this kind of stuff,
And maybe.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
It depends on what Zach Martin does.
Speaker 6 (45:48):
Yep, and Connor and Brock Coffe me.
Speaker 4 (45:50):
I'll be interested to see what they do.
Speaker 8 (45:51):
And Connor Riley knows him best because it was Connor
Riley's idea at Kansas sit it's actually train him as
a center before he even ever played center.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
And it's going back to Zach Martin. I saw it
bowl he certainly says that he's gonna wait to his
leg heels to make it decision another four or five weeks.
Speaker 5 (46:05):
But he was still a limit at the Super Bowl
from surgery.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
And you know, again you look at his contract, he's
essentially a free agent because he good at count like
Tim Meginnings the Cowboys cap. I just don't see him
coming back. He talked about it because he does not
want to just come back to play. He wants to
come back and be Zach Martin. And if he can't
be Zach Martin, I don't think he wants to play.
Speaker 4 (46:26):
I wouldn't either, He's got too much of a reputation.
Speaker 3 (46:28):
But he sounded like you liked the way Schottenheimer was
going to structure the offense and the kind of play
style that.
Speaker 5 (46:33):
They were going to. Oh no, no, he said all
the right things.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
But when you just continue to talk to him and
then you walked him walk, you know he's not healthy yet.
Speaker 4 (46:40):
All right, Clarence Hill most.
Speaker 7 (46:42):
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think just a quarterback, just the quarterback, just the quarterback.
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As the Cowboys introduced their assistant coaches to the media yesterday,
we do it with Joe Hooyt, All City Dallas, the
Hall of Famer. He is ed Warder and there is
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Speaker 5 (00:52):
All City DLLs.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I say it differently. I noticed when you were I
asked how a question and introducing your so the coaches
yesterday you say it differently.
Speaker 6 (01:01):
Well, d LS is a tongue twister. The you know
what I mean?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
That is our brand. I know we're trying to get
people to know the brand.
Speaker 6 (01:08):
But it's like inherently Dallas minus.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
So I still call it Dallas thank you, because that's
what I think of with people nationally.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
No, that's what we think of.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I'm just saying though, that they're trying to get us
to get the brand and people's mindset.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
Yeah, it's not because.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Dallas is your Google. Dallas, you got to Google DLLs.
I was DLLs when you Google. Go to the Twitter
as our friend. Uh brand again the tika he's to
say it is DLLs is not Dallas.
Speaker 6 (01:36):
But she sells seashells by the Sea.
Speaker 7 (01:37):
Short.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
It's too much of a tongue twister. You know people
can find it.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
If they want to exactly.
Speaker 6 (01:41):
Yeah, does Google most trusted?
Speaker 4 (01:43):
You tell to get that payball down?
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Try to read your.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Story, sir, me too.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
It's it's it's just the way.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Well this looks like nothing topic.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Nothing is free.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Thank you, ed you and I the same thing.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
So forty one dollars to read this.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
I know you get a lot of stuff and that just.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
You get a free tish and you Joe too, Joe stuff.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
So go ahead tell us about your story. I could
pay for it.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
He saved us some coins. So no idea, what's your road?
Speaker 5 (02:11):
I got you?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
It was here and Joe was here, and basically it
was just a rehash of things that we got yesterday
talking to the assistant coaches. One thing, he was there,
I know, I'm sorry, I know he was there merely work.
But you know there was a you talked to the
coaches and they all talked about Shotty having a clear vision,
you know, and the clear vision, clear direction of what
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they wanted, what he wants, how he wants this organization
to look.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
And you know, obviously it's running the ball obviously on
the offense, to be physical and violent on defense, take
the ball away. But have you know a family oriented
have a connection with the players. It's about the players.
Certainly has the schemes, but it's about the players. But
I'm just talking to different coach. Yeah, everybody has these
same messages. Uh, But during this time when they're in
(02:59):
the whole and then the meeting and rooms are all together,
all in the good room, he is continually stressing his
messages to us coaches. And you saw yesterday they were
parroting everything that they the same things.
Speaker 8 (03:12):
Yeah, I think there's a question with things like this,
like how much does coach speak, how much is genuine?
But I think at the very least these are things
that Brian Schoenheimer is really conveyed to them and made clear.
And I think the biggest thing specifically an offense is
the physicality that he wants them to have. You saw
Clayton Adams, the new offensive coordinator. His smile lit up
and then he got real intense when he started talking
about the violence that he wants these guys to play with.
And I think that that's something that Brian Schoenheimer is
(03:33):
really preaching to them. My question though, and we were
gonna find this out yesterday, and I wondered, was this
a cop out or was this genuine in terms of, hey,
this is right at the beginning of the evaluation. Is
what about the personnel, because you can't be violent without
violent people, and especially with the running game. I asked
Clayton Adams, Hey, you had James Connor in Arizona, but
like you got a lot of openings here on this
running back personnel and there's not a guy who's got
(03:54):
the physicality that you want to kind of carry out
that vision.
Speaker 6 (03:57):
How do you kind of go about getting that. He's like,
it's too early for that, It's too early for that.
Speaker 8 (03:59):
But I think that's gonna be a big question as
we move into the next stage of the offseason. How
do you get guys to kind of be representative of
the vision that you want Brian Schottenheimer.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Did you believe it when he said it is too early?
Speaker 5 (04:09):
No?
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Okay, neither.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I'm glad I didn't pay forty one dollars for that.
It's a physical game, Clarence, no doubt. This is a
physical game, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Don't whine well during the break, I'm going to get
the passwords.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
To get the free access.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
What were your takes from yesterday?
Speaker 3 (04:35):
And not all that different from yours, But I mean
who doesn't say all that first time they meet the media.
Does anybody ever say we want to be a finesse team,
you know, we want to rely on speed and imagination,
and we're not really interested in taking the ball away.
We'll just get it whenever they give it to us.
So yeah, I mean, none of that stuff is all
(04:55):
that's surprising to hear, but it is consistent with this
thought that they do want to be do want to
create an identity where they run the football on offense,
and that I mean that takes back to the Jason
Garrett era, right, I mean, that's what he emphasized and
that's what's worked for this organization through time is running
the football, play action, passing, and playing defense. And if
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they can do those things, then they're gonna have a
chance in the division.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
You know, one thing that struck me certainly, you just
talking to the defensive coordinator and all the defense coaches.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
It's one thing to say, we're going to allow Michael.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Parson duty does best and get to the quarterback. Certainly,
he's in his third defensive coordinator in the last four years,
and you know it's you know, making them comfortable allow
him to continue to rush the pass. Because Influence is
not a guy who moves people around like Dan Quinn
did do the Worlds, whereas Waldo thing he kind of
lets you rush from your sides and go get the quarterback.
But he said, you know, Michael's primary position will be
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rushing the quarterback and it's not being the linebackers getting
out of the quarterback. He and Aaron Whitecotton, defensive line coach,
bothtly echoed the same thing. But the thing that struck me,
and maybe because they have no difference tackles on the roster,
but they were very high on the impact that they
can make with one. Mizi Smith, who's largely been a
disappointment his first two years in league, stain he was
(06:14):
disappointed a rookie, uh playing and dan Quinn's scheme, he
had to get up the field, and you.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Don't make it any easier on him changing the defensive
coordinator system every year.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
No.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
No, last year he was supposed to be more comfortable
than Mike Zimmer's scheme and he was on the field
because the ain't nobody else to play. But I don't
know if he was a difference maker. But these two
talked about his athleticism and uh being you know, thinking
he can get to the quarterback because they're going to be
more like dan Quinn. This defense is an attack defense.
They're going out to the quarterback. They stopping running away
back for the quarterbacks. And more than Marinelli's stuff is
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not reading and react stuff that they did on the Zimber,
which they said last year was what Mozi did best.
It's it's about attacking the quarterback. Here's a guy who's
been criticized for not getting off the ball, slow off
the ball, not better get in the backfield. That's what
I gonna be asking him to do and so sometimes
you you know, as we talked about on our show
this morning, they are supposed to be optimistic. But we
(07:08):
can't let him lie to us, right, We can't let
him think that Monsie's gonna suddenly be Quinn Williams.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Okay, I this is just me.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I took that as this is what you're supposed to say.
You're getting here. A part of you getting the job
is telling.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
What they want to hear. That was a great pick,
and I first, we'll make something out of this guy.
Nobody else came li it is you can lie about
it and then blame him for failing.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
I see what's there.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
I mean, it's it's the music producer who comes in
here says yeah, I think I can work with it.
I mean, and at some point in time, maybe they
are Jimmy jam and Terry Lewis when they said we
think we can do something with this janned Jackson who
never really had a hit, and they made the out
of control she became a star or it's just like, oh,
you can't say.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
But first of all, but she was a Jackson.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
First of all, so was okay, so was there.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Was a new people.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
She was a star. She was a start from a child.
Don't be doing it like that. Don't don't don't do now.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
You do not do nasty girl like that like she
was something guy she was not. She was not Jamaze,
she was not LaToya. She was She had started, but
she had star powers.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I did not see this coming.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
She had start power.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
She had start power from the beginning, back when she
was a baby.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
On good Time. She exuded star power.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
She was singing on good she had exhort what she
was on different strew.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
She had star power.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
She had fired the daddy. She still and she was
trying to find something in Jimmy James.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
Trying to find Bobby Brown. You don't she had start power.
Your history is terrible anyway. You just know I'm not
she had star powers Janet Jackson.
Speaker 9 (08:49):
But back to the Cowboy was starting, no no cook
one other one other thing that uh. And we're talking
about them saying the right things or saying things. They
kept talking about how great their cornerbacks were, how great
their cornerbacks.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
We got two of the best cornerbacks.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Two of the five best man two and I don't know.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
If one of them gonna be ready to start the season.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Who's available or play it all.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Play it all. I'm like, come on now, got me.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
May have a contract decision to make on him, right,
Not well, he never mentioned Jordan Lewis at all.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
No, he's maybe that they have no contract decision to
make on him because he's injury guaranteed with this year.
He can't cut him to next year. He's on his roster.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
Yeah, one thing too, we're talking about Diggs. Yeah, no,
I but also on his roster.
Speaker 8 (09:35):
But also one thing that Mattie Flues talked about was Hey,
you know, we're gonna we're gonna keep a simple We're
gonna try to take the ball away and stop the run.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Right.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
But I was find it funny because I tweeted that
exact quote. That funny.
Speaker 8 (09:44):
It was funny because I posted on Twitter and the
most reaction. I gotta think it's always telling when the
former team fans are the ones replying to you and
they're like, oh yeah, good luck with those soft covers.
Is on third down and long then and you know
all these things. And Bears fans were not too kind
about the the hiring of matt Ebra.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
He has the history of bember don't break. Yeah, that's
his scheme. He's going back to Marinella screen and let
you out on the field. They tied up at the Redson.
They bimb don't break.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
They have created turnovers wherever he's been. They've ranked pretty high,
both with the Colts and with the Bears in terms
of taking the football away.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I look at Ibra Fluss, one of my good friends
is a Bears fan too, and he's laughing and everything,
and I just said, look, I get it.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
But we have seen that there's several people who just
can't make that move three feet three you know, there
was a three inches three feet they call it. You know,
when you go from being the backup singing to singing.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
It's hard.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
It is hard.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Some people can't do. He couldn't do it, but back
over here he can do.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
Just prove it.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
He's a qualified defensive coordinator, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Dan Quinn showed us that. Because I was skeptical as man,
this dude has he gonna come here after that whole
debacle in Atlanta and that thing didn't dan Quinn showed
you he could still do this.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
This part of it. Phillips continued.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
After he left here and went to the Super Bowl
gave Sean McBay everything, did perfect game plan against Bill Belichick.
They offensively Sean McBay couldn't do his part. So I
look at Matt Eberflus with hope that Okay, I think
he can get back to but he's got to have
the tools. Okay, at the end of the he no,
damn magician. He needs some tools. That needs players.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Now. Now, they didn't none of the coaches talked in
any length or any detail about the personnel that they're
inheriting and too early for that, how committed they are
to keeping guys. So when we asked him about osa
Ozigi dua Zua, he I mean, we all know how
important that player is and what Matt Eberflus tries to do.
That's arguably the most important player on the field to
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him and his system. And he went out and got
a guy from Washington and sweat at a higher cost
to have that presence with the Bears. And he said, yeah,
we like him, but we like a lot of guys
like he completely made no gave no interest in how
committed they are to trying to make a competitive bid
to keep him on this rock.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
And I will ask you, guys, and I'm like Odiggy
Zoo have been like him since he's a great guy,
great kid, certainly has made the most of his opportunities.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
A third round pick. Is he a difference maker? Is he?
Speaker 3 (12:13):
I mean, I don't know, But if you let him go,
then aren't you just trying to draft another guy to
replace him and then make hope he's not as good.
You're going to be a draft and developed team. Then
you got it. When you get a guy and you
draft him and you develop him and he's something, you got.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
To keep him. I agree.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I'm just saying though he could be getting twenty four
million dollars a year, certainly, at least twenty million dollars
a year. Is he worth that? I guess, And I'm
worth it as a term because I don't know if Deck.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Well, if you lose him and then you have to
draft his replacement with the twelfth pick, what if you
really accomplished in the offseason.
Speaker 8 (12:43):
But here's the only thing with the pots of Line
is they don't have a lot of guys in general
at all right now in that room. So yeah, I
think if you had enough guys and you're saying, hey,
we just need one guy to be the three technique
to be the dude. I'm cool with paygos so that
much money if you can kind of move the cap around.
But they need a lot of guys, and I know
this draft is deep at defensive line. So your point,
you're gonna be doing an exercise and trying to find oh,
Dicky's SEO once again. But you might have to have
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multiple guys. And I just don't know if twenty four
million dollars for.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Me already say you don't trust Bozzie Smith, now the
one guy you do trust, go I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
Even if you pay, you're gonna draft him back.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
You still, this draft is deep in defensive tackle, you know,
and so you're going on draft some about the defense
line anyway. I mean, okay, let's take a step further
than what about Williams from Philadelphia. You know, he considered
to be the Milton Williams.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
He may be the number one defense tackle on the board.
If you're gonna pay, oh so why not pay him.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
You're gonna get him.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
He's from Fort Worth, there's a chance. But I mean
you got a bid for him.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
I mean, if you're gonna pay that type of money, first,
of all, why.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Get to this point.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
That's that's the real problem.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
That's yeah, but we can't go back.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
And you know, well you gotta change at some point,
so change it now.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Well you can't.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
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done O. Dicky Zuo, you should have.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
But you can't go back. Diggis is contraxxlf.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
You can't go back and pay him before it is
carters able to get him at a discount.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
Debraid is gonna be what the rate is.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
So if you're gonna pay that rate, why not pay
the rate for Milton Williams rather than pay that rate
for Diggie Zewa is what I'm asking. If you're gonna
pay that rate.
Speaker 8 (14:13):
Firston, I use that money to bring back Chauncey Golson
and then go get a couple of guys and.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
Said, Chauncey's the defensive end. He's not a tackle.
Speaker 8 (14:19):
No no, no, no, no. But what I'm saying, no,
but look at your whole defense. No, you got you
got holes everyone.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, But I'm just what you Marcus Lawrence.
Speaker 8 (14:26):
Yeah, Marcus Lawrence is gone. You're bringing back Mazzie Smith
in the back of chips right now. You need to
go get more guys. It's not there's a lot of dudes.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
The defensive tackle spot, to me is still the that's
the issue. You're you're in division now, Saquon Barkley, they're
the world champions. You've got you. You haven't stopped the
run for four years. Put some resources over there, put
more resources over there.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
And every good team beat you the same way.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
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Speaker 2 (14:51):
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Speaker 4 (15:09):
And get some get some oxing in. I mean, this
is what they've done.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
And Eddie leaves and goes to places in Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
So they've got to stop doing that at some point
in time.
Speaker 10 (15:20):
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Speaker 1 (18:24):
The NFL basically informed teams today that the salary cap
would jump to somewhere between two hundred and seventy seven
and two hundred and eighty one million dollars. That is
way up from last year's cap of two fifty five
point four.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
Last two years of cap has increased over fifty three
million dollars. Uh.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
So the Cowboys have making a complaint of talking about
having cap issues because I tied the cap is going
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Speaker 5 (18:52):
No one expected to jump this much this year.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
So that shit helped the Cowboys saw some of their
cap woes. You know, certainly they're not the team with
the most cap on. But she kept himself some of
the cap bolls so they can be players active in
free to see if they want to be, if they.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Want to be, and it's up to them. Uh.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
One person who took very much note of this one
Michael Parsons.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
He tweeted LFG.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
So that's either LFG paid me or LFG you got
money to pay some other guys in addition to paying me.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
But LFG none the same good friends.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
It's a call to action. According to Micah Let's freak.
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Let's freaking GOLFGFJ.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yes, yes, yes, so, I mean Jerry's been talking going
back to camp. He talked about, you remember when the
pandemic we had to have less money. He just talked
about being you know, this doom day scenario out there
and everybody thought it was gonna be the ticket lawsuit
from the Sunday ticket lawsuit or something.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
That was gonna bring the cap down. He's I can't.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
I gotta be careful because you know, I know the forecast,
I know the future forecast, but anybody I know what
the economics of the league is going to be.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
And Scott, the sky is not the sky is not falling. Okay?
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Why I think it's interesting that Micah Parsons, who is
gonna get the biggest contract this offseason of anybody with
this franchise, and maybe the biggest in the league this offseason,
certainly in position for it, and there have been no talk.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
And Mark Chaon wants forty million dollars.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
You think he's gonna get more than Michael Parsons.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
The Bengals.
Speaker 8 (20:21):
From the Bengals, who have they couple other guys they
have to sign.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
From the Bengals they could have signed. You think Mike
Brown's gonna spend Jerry.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
They could have signed up a thirty five. Last year
they didn't sign him. He went off and they had
one of the best seasons ever before receiver.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
But it's interesting that his whole thing that going into
this offseason is, you know, I don't have to be
the highest paid non quarterback in football. There when he
said I have to be, And he has said he
wants his contract to be done early so can benefit
the team in free agency. And now they've got an
extra twenty two to twenty six million dollars that they
didn't expect to have, And here we are talking about
(20:59):
how they're gonna let all these guys go. What's his
reaction going to be to that? How is that going
to change his willingness to sign here for a reasonable
sum of money.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
He's gonna sign.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Oh right, I've always gotta play here.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
He's gonna sign.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
When he signed them to the Ridge's contract.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Whin Yeah, it win is an issue, but he's he's
gonna be willing to you say, a willingness. So I'm
dealing with the willingness he's gonna be willing to sign.
Speaker 8 (21:22):
Here's the interesting thing too, though, And you pointed this
outthead and yeah, they got twenty five million dollars to
play with now, but so does every other NFL team
out there.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
And I think that this also is kind of not
only a call.
Speaker 8 (21:32):
Yeah, it's a call not only to for the every
the Cowboys do action, but everyone else, like the Philadelphia
Eagles have shown to be very very aggressive with a
little bit of aound the cap space. How do you
think they're feeling over there right now when they see
how we got twenty five million dollars more to play
with than to push things back? The Micah Parsons call
to action is really more relevant now than ever because hey,
you got to do You have room now to do things.
Everyone else is going to do something. Why don't you
(21:53):
do it too?
Speaker 3 (21:53):
And you have motivation. You're the third best team in
your division.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
Right Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
But you know what's the happiest the players because this
means more money. He's gonna be more money out there
for freatenency. All those contracts are going up, so you
know Osa is gonna get his twenty million, you know,
no doubt or whatever else they're gonna do. It's nobody's
come in on cheap deals because people got money to spend.
They have to spend the money. Uh, they don't necessarily
have extra twenty million. It just projected more than what
(22:19):
it was, so it's probably gonna go up ten million,
you know as.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
Well at the seventy seven days now under the cow.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Yeah yeah, yeah, not susaridly got an extra twenty million,
but yes, it's probably an extra test.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
Million that they didn't project.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
So, but the relevant numbers are that the Cowboys have
not participated in a significant extent in free agency. And
when they had the Brian Schottenheimer introductory press conference and
Steven was asked about following the Eagles model, he was
still very noncommittal about it, like and Jerry didn't say, hey,
we are we we we've realized that we've got to
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use this aspect to improve our roster like it like
so many other teams do, especially teams like the Eagles
in our division and Washington at our expense. And there
was no commitment that they were going to do this.
And if you look at the numbers, they spent the
fewest amount of free agency dollars last year, eighteen point
(23:16):
eighty five eleven one year contracts, that's what they and
they were the last team to sign a player, and
they've been the last team to sign an unrestricted free
agent three of the last four years.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
Yeah, and here are the here's the Eagles.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Jeffrey Lourie is selling, you know, eight percent of his franchise,
so he has more capital to invest in improving his
roster the Giants are now doing. Then, is Jerry ever
going to sell a fraction of a franchise? No, No,
he doesn't want anybody else be called an owner.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
No battle Boys.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
When we said yeah, buy out all those people to
make sure came in.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
And we said nobody else. We mean nobody else.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
We need Charlotte Steven But what wasn't Steve introduced as
a co owner?
Speaker 5 (23:57):
Yeah, okay, so I'm an alcohol owner.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Jerry ownes fifty one percent or something like that, and
and the kids on the wrist.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
But the Cowboys have ranked twenty seventh in free age
and spending since twenty seventeen. They haven't been in the
top twenty since they were nineteenth and Dak's rookie year.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Yeah, and that's what kills me about. And that was
Dak's rookie year. But we'll by his second year. They
didn't spend a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Well, last year they were thirty second in twenty twenty three.
That were twenty eighth year before they their twenty fifth
year before that they're twenty sixth. Year before that, they're
twenty first. Year before that, that were thirtieth year before that,
they were twenty ninth, twenty seventeen, they were twenty third, right,
you know.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
So that's what kills me when people talk about Dak's
money and how Dak's money limits the Cowboys from signing anyone.
They won't sign anybody anyway. When they had Dak on
a rookie deal, they didn't sign anybody. They were not
players of radiency. So it's not like if that doesn't
get sixty million, they're gonna use that money and something
they haven't done that that was shown they're gonna do that.
Speaker 8 (24:53):
Yeah, it's not about only spending, it's about how creative
you spend, and they've proven a lack of creativity in
this regard.
Speaker 6 (24:58):
The one thing Jerry did say, we gotta get better
with the cal.
Speaker 8 (25:00):
But until you see them actually do it and manipulate that,
then there's no reason to trust that they would increase.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
That free agency.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
They know how to manipulate the cap.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
They might know, but they haven't shown it.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
Yeah, they have no willingness to do exactly.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
I mean, none of this is rockets so what the
Eagles are doing anybody else is doing is not rocket science.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
So will the fact that the Eagles have now won
a second Super Bowl with their second head coach.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Will that be the impetus?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
And having Brian Schottenhimer here knowing right now the fan
base was underwhelmed by the hire, would that?
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Were you going to support this guy or not? Well,
like you hired him, you promoted him. Nobody else did
that in this hiring cycle. Nobody else promoted their head
their coordinator to a head coach, a non play calling coordinator.
So he's got two jobs you didn't have last year.
Are you going to support this guy or not?
Speaker 6 (25:51):
And he can't succeed you without that support.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
And that's why I wonder about just the free agency aspect.
And was it training camp when Steven said, hey, all
the tickets.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Are sold, the highest renewal rate in the right Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah that happened last year.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
He started that and the owners meeting in March, but yes,
he talked about the renewal rate and everybody re upping.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
What will they re up this year?
Speaker 3 (26:14):
You think we'll start to get some sense of this
next week when they're at the combine, and yeah, I
think you'll start getting made. The Hawks are had.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
And unofficial raidings to begin to the combine, and so
they're you know, obviously you got agents there with their clients,
agents who have also free agents, and they have conversations
and to think about the Cowboys, they can talk about
their own guys. The thing about the Cowboys is they
have so many of their own freightings. They have to
sign guys just to fill out a roster. Okay, they
have and that's not including going and improving the roster
(26:45):
by signing guys who weren't here. They got to start
filling out holes just to fill their football team. We
talked about they have one really defensive tackle on the
roster that's signed on the roster. Actually, if you conclude
Justin Rodgers as too, and maybe some of the guys
you got on the practice, but I mean Mazie and
Justin Rodgers is really all you got a defensive tackle.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
You got to sign bodies.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
Look at their running back room.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
Yeah, same thing with a running back room, the linebacker room.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
Quarterback.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, they have one quarterback on the roster, you know,
and so they got to sign bodies, so they they
will add people. Adding people is not the same as
being all in. Though they have to add people because
they have to fill out the roster. Is a difference
them going all in and adding difference making players to
improve the talent, they've got.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
To addressed the defensive tackle.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Yeah, to me, I mean that just that, that has
to be job number one. You are in a division
where you got the world champions and.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
The other team that went to the NFC Championship game,
a team on the rise with a rookie quarterback.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
A rookie quarterback who can run, and they're going to
add to their running game. I thought Eckler didn't have
his best year, but he's still a very good player.
And Eckland Robinson, they've got a running attack. So to me,
it has to start there. You did, you know so,
so while they put resources, I mean shot, he wants
to run it, you better stop it too.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
It has to be.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
It has to go both ways.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Run it, stop it because it we gonna stop running.
How do you gonna stop run? They been saying, never
last for you. They got to stop shop the run.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
You need defensive tackles and mine backers that they don't have,
and to run the football. You need a dynamic player
at running back that they don't have. So where are
these guys coming from.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
It's interesting that, Yeah, I asked Clayton Adams about his
rushing offense and how the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Kicked in Kyler Murray real quick on if I saw that.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Yes, is just something that I was happy about that
because I was going to ask that the success.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Of the offense is the quarterback run from You don't
have that in doubts, you know, And he did not
back down from the.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
Fact that he likes the quarterback when they able to run.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
In certain situations, but a goal line places where you
really got to have it.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
That's when that he didn't back down from that though.
So I need that PILATEI you get the rehab I need.
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Speaker 3 (28:58):
Maybe that's when you put Trey Lanser cl Clayton play.
Speaker 12 (29:00):
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Speaker 4 (29:03):
Clayton called the place.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
I understand that.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
I understand that that's part what you brought it here
for what he brings to the running game, and the
QB run is part of that. And then that's the
thing about that that frustrates me about the whole thing
with Dak is that that's who you were, That's that's
what made you great in college, that's what made you
specially early to see early in your career. The idea
that they just completely went away from that when the
league was coming towards that. You have to Lamark Jackson's
coming league, Nigga's going toward the QB run and you
(29:28):
went away from that.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
It's been some time.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Is that more trying to make Dak tom Brady and
that was saying it was that more McCarthy or a
consciousness by Dak.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Or was it the investment the franchise meeting.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Well, it's just like it's just like going back then.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
We're old enough to remember in Philly when they discouraged
dom mic Now from running and tried to make him
a pocket pass and when running is what part of
made him great.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Although some people say he wanted to be proving to
be a pocket.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Right because that was the mindset.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
If you're not a real quarterback less you're parcketing path,
you have long jevity, you have no longevity in this league.
If you're not in a pocket pass, we don't do
the tom Brady and Peyton Manning model. Rather than carveon
Niche and I think that's the same thing with that. Yes,
I think some of it was the coach and some
of them jaredsonly after got injured, but part of it
was Deck.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
That was his whole mindset being preached about, you know,
you need.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
To be able to stay in the pocket for longevity
and build, you know, rather than just do.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
What you do.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
But Clarence insulted him into being a running quarterback again,
and look at how that turned out.
Speaker 8 (30:23):
Well, he was actually running well in that game too,
which is the crazy part about it. And then obviously
if you haven't right, he had their longest run of
the season.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
He should just stop ten yards earliest.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Yeah, and it's meat off the bone.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
He left the meat on the bone.
Speaker 6 (30:40):
He was off the bone, off the bone.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
But even Schottenheimer's offenses and when he was calling plays
in Seattle involved a running quarterback and Sir Wilson, who
was at the height of his powers at the time,
and you know he was reluctant to let the ball
out of his hands and clutch situations like he ran.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
That's what he did, right, he was and he was decisive.
That's the thing. You got it when you do what
you got be decisive.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
One thing that you look at what Jalen hurts and
those guys, even Patrick Mahomes when he decides to get
really decisive with it, because you.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
Don't you don't have to be fast.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
But if you're not gonna be fast, be decisive, so
you get because that is not very fast, but neither
is Patrick Mahons.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
I think the one of the commonalities all four of
the teams that got to the AFCN NFC Championship games
had were quarterbacks who ran for at least three hundred yards,
and obviously Daniels ran for way more than that. He
led He led Washington and rushing and passing, and that's
not uncommon for Josh Allen to do. But I think
those that's not gonna happen here anymore.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Which is placing more importance on finding a real running game,
real running game. And so the draft, draft and free agency.
They've got to look at defensive tackle, you gotta look
at the run back, running back. You gotta control the
lines if you're going to win this division. I mean,
clearly the blueprint is out here. You've got to control
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the lines. And something they have not done. They tried
to walk work around and tap dance around.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
They fail.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Last year was miserably failing. And then you start to
look at this year's schedule. I mean, you got to
go to the AFC West face them. You gotta go
to the NFC North and face them along with Philly twice,
Washington twice. You've got to fix the defensive tackle, defensive line, offensive.
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Speaker 4 (34:45):
Cold outside, it is cold, cold, cold, cold. But Clarence
Hill wanted to do the show. And so Clarence calls,
he wants the show done.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
We do the show. Let's go.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Joe Hoyt got the call as long as we don't
have to do it outside and saw.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
The batsit signal it came in here. I came in
such a hater Clais wanted.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
There's no weather event, there's nothing on the roads. It's
just cold. You're from Colorado.
Speaker 13 (35:11):
I know.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
I was just there and I took my big park
my big north face parker there, thinking I need it
there more than I would hear. We all got two
days be done next week, like include, I'm leaving it there.
It's all good and still needed more there.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Class called for Chris Beam, and I just said, yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
We'll make it happen. We'll plug in the stuff.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
I'll come up with the topics.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Well you wanted to use all that knowledge he gained
yesterday talking to the assistant coaches. So it is timely,
very much so.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
Teching and producer.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
Oh my god, and such a.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Hater and paid as such in the background.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Franchise tag, Yes, anybody worthy of it, especially now that
we see the salary cap in here going to be
uh moving up here to to to seventy seven.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
It was just like our conversation earlier, you know, and
look we all like, O DIGGI zoo. Is he worth
twenty million dollars a year? And that's what the franchise
tag is for a defensive tackle, you know.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
No, I seemed to even more than that for him.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Yeah twenty four.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
Yeah, twenty four y yeah, over twenty million dollars. I
mean that is that.
Speaker 6 (36:19):
He's going to get that, he may get that, he
will get on the market.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
If you're gonna what I'm saying, even before the cap
thing came out, if you're gonna franchise.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Dan Quint's already pacing outside his residence right now.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
Well, either I heard they're trading for the guy from Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
I mean, you know milescare Yeah, we'll have them both.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Ye And they got as much as cap room as
anybody watching it has a lot of cap room to
play with. So, but if you're gonna franchise, you might
want sign to a deal because you franchise, you have
to carry that whole weight on your on your on
your sory cap. So it doesn't help you, you know,
try to sign on the guys and you don't really
want a twenty four million dollar a hit if you're gonna,
if you're gonna consider franchise, if that's gonna be the case,
(36:57):
then sign them to a deal so you can less
than his cap figure. But that's a lot of money
outside of him. There's really nobody you're worthy of franchise.
Speaker 8 (37:05):
Yeah, because if you sign him, you can manipulate it
long term rather than just taking that twenty four million dollars.
Coavin and then Stills allow you to go get more
defensive lineman. Because that's the problem I keep coming back
to is they need bodies, they need dudes. They need
a lot of help there. And if you ask three
rookies to do it on the draft from the draft,
I don't know if they can step up immediately carry
that kind of way.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Yeah, it's tough for defensive line. But you look at
the Eagles and we love what they've done with the
Georgia guys. But Jalen Carter wasn't Jaalen Carter as a rookie.
Nola Smith wasn't Nola Smith as a rookie. Davis wasn't
Davis as a rookie. You know, you know, they they've
molded and come into those.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
Guys, you know. So it's hard for those guys at
that position.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
And I'm not making exclusive for Mizie, but for their
really to have impact as rookies.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
But he's not a rookie, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
So the Cowboys tried just the opposite strategy of last
year from that, right, They waited until training camp was
almost over and brought in guys who had played twelve
or fifteen years, so we're retired.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
Yeah, called on the cow So who was on the
cow That's that is not the move at all.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
But yeah, no franchise tag day, transient transition day, it start,
could start it yesterday.
Speaker 5 (38:12):
I don't see the cowboy.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
I wouldn't use it, but I would be threatening, ohso
with it right now, trying to get him to sign
a multi year deal, Like, if you don't sign a
multi year deal, you're not going to free agency. We're
gonna we're gonna franchise that.
Speaker 5 (38:22):
He'll say, good, I'll take twenty four million this year.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
You don't have to be telling him the truth.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
I'll take twenty four million this year. Oh give me
twenty four Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
But would you rather fully get out of eighty.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Eighty is coming next year because you ain't gonna do
it back to back by wait, you ain't gonna do
it back to back years. I'll be back in the
market making that capital. The cap might go up another
twenty million, I'll be packing. I'm gonna take that, you know,
just like there running back Tony politic that I'm planning
the franchise tag for a year next.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
One thing that you're not going to do it back
to back years. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (38:51):
One thing they can't threaten them, in my opinion, is
the transition tag. I think that's been kind of a conversation.
If you're threatening an eighteen million dollars one year while
you can still negotiate with others. That's going to do
absolutely nothing, because you were going to significantly exceed on
the open market eighteen million.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Except they would get a pick back.
Speaker 8 (39:05):
If you know that's the thing. You get no compensation
for transition. Take there's transition just right at first refusal exactly, yeah,
and yeah, I don't that would make no sense.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
I did not talk to the special teams coordinator yesterday
at all.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
You need for the former forty nine of defense coordinator
Nick Sortinson got the big flat hat, flat hat, big
flat hat. He said all the right things, but what
he say was he works for Shottenheimer. Shottenhammer don't work
for him. He does not make decisions when fake goal,
when the fake punt, when he lost players can't acting,
(39:41):
wasn't If there's any it's going to be shouting from
the head coach, it won't be coming from him.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
I asked, how's your fake put?
Speaker 6 (39:51):
When I heard I heard a little chuckle.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
That is such dirty work.
Speaker 8 (39:55):
I heard a chuckle behind me before he even asked it.
I heard it like I'm in the engine, you're getting
ready to go, and says you weren't here.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
But there was a lot of ACTI base way ahead, coach.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
There's way how much activating coach like boo.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Boo wow, fake punts at the thirty were going, Now
do you do that in your boy, that's some dirty work.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
I'm just saying.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
But you.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
Got to have especially coach on the least. Okay, you
just can't.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
That head coach is not here anymore.
Speaker 5 (40:28):
Run his own program.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
I'm sure, right, Shottenheimer's learn from them.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
It's got run out of sair on l A.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Right.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Like I said, this is Brian shotting Man. I don't
really remember things, Ed. Can you recall any activations under
Marty Schottheimer.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
I think I think the Shottenheimer is kind of had
a conservative conservatives.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Pretty good from during the years. So, I mean, the
special teams could look different. They've got some good players
here that they need to re sign out.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Yeah, and you made the point about they need to
resign their punter and who's also the older and the
long snapper.
Speaker 8 (41:06):
Yeah, they got a great battery that's been a Pro
Bowl battery. But two of those three guys are missing.
He did say that, hey, you know, we're gonna want
to get them back. And you know, I've heard nothing
but great things and so I mean, we'll see what
else is he supposed to say about this.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
We're not going to belabor the long snapper. Okay, they
will find it long snap.
Speaker 6 (41:21):
Did they have any issues at long snapping?
Speaker 5 (41:22):
They will, they will find it long snap.
Speaker 8 (41:23):
There are two tiers. There are two tiers of long snappers,
those who mess up and those don't.
Speaker 5 (41:27):
And the Cowboys journally have founded a long snapper.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Yeah, they were going back to the illustrat that you
have a pretty good a long snapper LPE probably l LP.
Speaker 5 (41:37):
Ready to come back.
Speaker 6 (41:38):
Hey, there are bad long snappers out there.
Speaker 5 (41:39):
Yeah, the Cowboys have generally never had one.
Speaker 6 (41:42):
Trent wasn't one of them.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
So they'll they'll get a long snapper, and I think
they'll you know, they'll be okay at punter.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
So we can't afford our long snapper or punter. We're
gonna draft.
Speaker 9 (41:52):
Well, what if we franchise bring up the USFL or
UFL The punt return is also a free agent.
Speaker 8 (41:58):
He is a well restricted. Yeah, but what if your
franchise tag the long snapper. I mean, you take the
three highest long snappers salaries. I think that actually could
be a deal.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
I'm in on this long snapper is happy to be
on the team, Sir, he was franchise told me the contract.
Speaker 5 (42:10):
My family have been a couple of years. What do
you want me to sign?
Speaker 6 (42:13):
What about the punter?
Speaker 5 (42:13):
Though, punter probably gonna be the same way.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Okay, Yeah, so you're not scared if Fossil decides to
take them down to Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Within I mean, who the longer, He's not scared of it,
as long as they don't take the kick returner and
the kicker.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Fossil loves Anger's arms.
Speaker 5 (42:34):
Activation long they don't take the kicker and the kick returner.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
Just asking, just asking. Any other nuggets from the assistant
coach media gathering.
Speaker 14 (42:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (42:48):
One guy I talked with a lot was David over Street,
the new Corners coach. And I think that when people
look at last year's staff to this year, one big
loss that they talk about is Al Harris, right, and
how are we going to replace Al Harris? David Overstreet
said a lot of things. I think he had the
best quot of the day when he said that, Hey,
you know, when the ball's in the air, I tell
my guys that ball is yours. That with the quarterback
through it. That means he doesn't want it anymore. And
(43:08):
if he's throwing it at targeting you, that means he
thinks that your guy is better than him, So go
out and take offense to that. And I kind of
like that energy. I think that that's going to be
one thing to kind of follow is how does David
Overstreet's unit compared to what Al Harris's unit did, because
I think.
Speaker 6 (43:21):
A lot of people look at that as a huge loss.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
I thought the other interesting thing was both on the
offensive and defensive sides. I mean, we talked about guys
saying what they're supposed to say, but at the same time,
you're kind of calling guys out. And Aaron Whitecotton, the
defensive line coach, did that, and so did the offensive
line coach from your Kansas state, Connor Riley. Both of
(43:44):
them talking about finishing and you're gonna do that or
you're not going to play. And I mean, I thought
that was kind of an interesting common theme that some
of the I.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Was wondering and Baby Belle asked a question about finishing,
and I think he was taking a shot at Misi.
I think that was a Misi directed question, and that
was the answer, You're gonna finish, you're gonna run with
energy or run to the.
Speaker 5 (44:07):
Ball, because those are things the air. I mean, Rob
Marinelli talked about.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
You know, if you remember Mack, he made those you
know lows, he made those guys sign the you know,
his mere controversy, made the guy sign this agreement before
he signed the contract that you will run hard and
you won't loaf.
Speaker 5 (44:20):
You know, that's something that has been a big part
of this.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
That's not in the player standard player contract. That was
end that.
Speaker 5 (44:28):
Didn't done with.
Speaker 4 (44:29):
But just at that work out.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
How did lens but Connor Riley was talking about he
was he was not. He was kind of sort of
noncammental about where Cooper bebe?
Speaker 2 (44:37):
That was the question I asked, Yeah, because because Cooper
was an All American guard for him out there at
Kansas date that's where he played the entire time. And
then then he talked about, well he did play.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
Right every race, He started a game at every place
on the offensive line excepts center. Then he comes to
Dallas and he starts what ninety seven percent of the
snaps at center and outperforms the first round draft pick
who was an offensive lineman as well. While making the
conversion from a position change and going from college to
pros is a third round pick. I mean, pretty incredible
(45:08):
year he had, so he was.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Better than that first round pick in college though. Picked
because of potential, not because of production.
Speaker 4 (45:15):
But this is just me, I wonder do you go
with I'll go back to Andre Gerrott.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Andre Gerard was a All American guard at Colorado, but
then Bill ended up putting him at center right figured
it out late, but he played some center there and
they ended up going to the big Total championship game,
beating Longhoors that day. It was a lot of the
strength of him. Sorry, do they do that same thing
with Connor Beeble? Hey man, Let's put you back where
we know you can excel. But I know some people
(45:43):
get into the short arms and all this kind of stuff,
And maybe.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
It depends on what Zach Martin does.
Speaker 6 (45:48):
Yep, and Connor and Brock Coffe me.
Speaker 4 (45:50):
I'll be interested to see what they do.
Speaker 8 (45:51):
And Connor Riley knows him best because it was Connor
Riley's idea at Kansas sit it's actually train him as
a center before he even ever played center.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
And it's going back to Zach Martin. I saw it
bowl he certainly says that he's gonna wait to his
leg heels to make it decision another four or five weeks.
Speaker 5 (46:05):
But he was still a limit at the Super Bowl
from surgery.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
And you know, again you look at his contract, he's
essentially a free agent because he good at count like
Tim Meginnings the Cowboys cap. I just don't see him
coming back. He talked about it because he does not
want to just come back to play. He wants to
come back and be Zach Martin. And if he can't
be Zach Martin, I don't think he wants to play.
Speaker 4 (46:26):
I wouldn't either, He's got too much of a reputation.
Speaker 3 (46:28):
But he sounded like you liked the way Schottenheimer was
going to structure the offense and the kind of play
style that.
Speaker 5 (46:33):
They were going to. Oh no, no, he said all
the right things.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
But when you just continue to talk to him and
then you walked him walk, you know he's not healthy yet.
Speaker 4 (46:40):
All right, Clarence Hill most.
Speaker 7 (46:42):
Trusted you didn't shave him into his injury. I don't
think just a quarterback, just the quarterback, just the quarterback.
Hall of Famer Edward, the young up and comer, Joe Hoyt,
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