April 9, 2025 • 49 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 1 (00:23):
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
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than what we can tell you. But we're still going
to give you a quality show because we've got John
Jack Taylor, ed Warder, We've got Clarence Hill. I knew
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from high like a good sniper. All right, Agent zero,
it's in effect you can get your number zero jersey
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for the first time ever in the history of the
franchise was started in nineteen sixty.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
The NFL on the allowed you to wear a single
ditch is a few years ago, and I think zero
only became available a couple of years ago. Uh yeah,
Agent zero. This is something tomarve on Overshaw on Ward Texas.
He basically branded a Texas Now Texas allows the best
defensive players in the best linebacker where Agent zero or zero,
Uh after Uh, Demary and Overshaw on something he's wanted
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to wear. Uh. Interestingly enough, we don't know when he's
gonna be back on the field because he's injured. He's injured.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I understand he may not be back healthy and ready
to go and play in the game until November. But
the Cowboys are rolling out this campaign coordinated media and
marketing campaign.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
After a who hum offseason, they're rolling out big to
big to do throughout today. I mean big to do
on all the social media channels today. Agent zero giving
a Marven Overshow on the number he's wanted. I talked
to him last off season, Uh, and he asked for
zero and he said they told me it wasn't available.
It was Rowdy's number and.
Speaker 6 (02:00):
Were stubborn it available.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Cowboys were stubborn about Rowdy been cut and right ain't
been cut. But the Cowboys need to get a fan
something to feel good about it again. What has been
largely whole home off season? Uh, A whole home coaching higher,
you haven't really had a lot of difference making players
sign the free agency.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Listen, I like Shotty, I know you laughed, but you
know that's that's not gonna sell tickets, and this.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Is I'm not watching the guy.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I'm not selling November.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I'm not swearing number zero thirteen tickets.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
But it's right on brand. I'm not selling tickets, but
we're selling jerseys, and those jersey are gonna fly off
the shelves like hot cakes. Fans are already looking you
look at the Twitter impressions on this. They're excited about
buying zero. This will sell for the Cowboy. It's right
on brand for the Cowboys.
Speaker 7 (02:45):
But it used to be a franchise that talked about
championships and Super Bowls.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
It used to be gonna make no honey. This is true,
and they ain't made no honey and championships in a
long time. So now you've been yes.
Speaker 7 (02:58):
Talked about jersey saying we ain't talk about games about
jersey sales.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
For a player who's been in the league two years
and hasn't finished either season unfortunately because of ACL injuries,
he say sell like hotcakes?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Are they gonna sell like hotcakes?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Have any of your social media friends texted you to say,
hey man about Twitter?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Based on the response I've seen on Twitter and the
way fans have talked about this, I think and I
think that the Cowboys have a feeling. If you watch
the videos they got doing the jerseys, they got T shirts, branded, tchers,
different things. They believe it's gonna sell. You know, well,
they wouldn't have marketed and said whenever anybody in the
league done a marketing campaign social media campaign for a
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jersey change for a guy who was not a pro bowler.
You know, I remember when Lebron did from you know
and Kobe and what it else. But tell me a
media marketing campaign for a guy who changed jerseys in
the off season, who was not at least productive special player.
And I'm thinking that the Cowboys certainly have some intel
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or some feeling so intuition that this is going to sell.
That's why they're doing it.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Hopefully there are make some picks in the draft next
in two weeks that'll sell more than number zero jerseys, hopefully.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
But I'm just saying right now, and we're not at
the draft yet, this is this is something that the
Cowboy fans can't feel good about. And as I was
Overshawn feels good about the return to get I don't
I understand he won't be back into November healthy and
ready to go. He feels good about that. When he
comes back, he's going to be able to be himself.
I don't think I'm hoping. I don't think the Cowboys
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would have put all of their machinery behind this in
this marketing campaign if they didn't feel good. He's gonna
be on the field.
Speaker 8 (04:52):
Well, I mean he's gonna be on the field.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I'm talking about on the field ready to play and
to make something. To put some substance behind this marketing campaign.
I'm under saying whether whether we know or not, I'm
thinking they have to feel good about that to put their.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Might and they put their mic this time last year
or anyone to finished the season.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
Yeah, but they put They don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
They don't know, But I'm just saying that they feel
good about the fact that they put their marketing mic behind.
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (05:17):
Hopefully he will, but history says he won't. I mean,
anybody you talk to who's ever had an a cl
it's always the next year, the next season, the season
after that.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
But he did overcome one long yeah, his rookie year,
and he was a sensational player for the brief time
he was on the field last year. But now it's
now it's twice as hard. Now he's got two of
these injuries.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
It is because they could use they could use the
dynamic linebacker. They use dynamic player linebacker. And the thing
about it is that you only really have one special
player on defense and two I guess with Bland, but
Trevor on Dias won't be ready for to start the
season either. And so outside of Michael, and outside of Bland,
who's you know had an injury March season last year,
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you don't have.
Speaker 7 (05:58):
Any playing over there yet because Blad has had one
good one, I mean one great one when historical one.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Okay, but again you're we're we're all in the same boat.
But my point is you don't have a lot of
special players on defense, is correct, And they need special
players on defense if you try to keep up with
the Eagles and everybody else and and try to really
get over that thirty year hump, you need more than Mike.
I don't care how much you paid Mike, and they're
gonna pay Mike at some point, but it's like paying
that you. Dak needs help, Michael needs help.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
So ask this question, please do We're since you were
saying you know, they feel good about it. Put a
marketing campaign. How does that?
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I'm just connecting the docts I'm saying to me, because
you don't really do a marketing campaign for Jerseys switches
to me, I'm asking you, well, just based on my intel,
based on my history, based on when you put two
and two together, it seems like those doctor condition is
based on this, right. Yeah, so yeah, they feel good
about it.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Would that prohibit them from using let's say, a first, second,
or third round pick on the linebacker.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
I don't think that they're not taking the linebacker with
the first round pick. I mean, I think Michael Parks
was special when you look at just like the history
well or the history linebacker A and we're talking about
a off the ball inside linebacker, not a EDG edge
rushing linebacker. Okay, so they're not taking an inside but the.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Dominent position for their defensive coordinator.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
It has, but you're not taking one with twelfth overall pick. Okay,
so you're not doing that twelfth overall for sure. I
just said, first second.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
Not sure there is one anybody would take?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I don't think there's one that you know,
maybe the third I just don't say I think they
have too many needs. And you look at the guys
that are bringing in and you got to take some
read some of the tea leaves about some of the
guys that brought in with the thirty visits and stuff
like that. They got a lot of running backs. I
think they're gonna take a running back in the first
two three rounds.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
So of the receivers are up there. Uh, some of
those guys are off as a lineman. A Membos is
now a one of the top ten guy from Missouri tackle.
He's the guy they brought in. So they brought in
a big tackle from Texas to visit. So they're they're
they're doing their due diligence on guys that that are
probably going to be there. Certainly with that twelfth overall pick,
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I just don't see it off the ball lineback.
Speaker 7 (08:19):
If they drafted one of them two big tackles, what
would they do with the tackle they drafted last year?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Competition, baby, solid about competition. You can put them the
right tackle, you can, you can you know, do whatever
you can do at the right tackle, don't you do? You?
Has he played like one since you paid him?
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Plays every snap good run blocker. I think the I
think the bigger problems the left tackle.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
It is, and which is why. And the thing about
it is, if most of these guys these two tackles,
if you can also spin them down the guard, some
of what you did with Zach Martin. Zach Martin was
a tackling college. He spun the guard in the NFL
and obviously had a future Hall of Fame career. And
you do need a right guard.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
So, but you thought I was out of line asking
about that position last year. I know.
Speaker 8 (09:11):
This the elephant over here, though, I forget nothing.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Sir, you know why, you know why you're right? Sorry, no, sir,
I said, sir, sir, you know you need the right guard.
I know exactly the guy you was trying to pump
up Hoffman. I'm not trying to go to Warwindhof I'm
trying to improve that position.
Speaker 8 (09:30):
Why you don't like Hoffman?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Try hard exactly, fist demeanor exactly. No, you don't like No,
I like players talent. When we talk about the Eagles
office line and how good they were, when we're talking
about them biting and putching out the play and getting
people upset, No, we were talking about them road grading people.
We were talking about them dirting people. I want somebody
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that can dirt, somebody road grade, somebody that's gonna open holes.
Not get you mad because I'm putting you off to
play or getting under your scheme, for the record, for
that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
For the record.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
My question at the time so that then head coach
Mike McCarthy was merely comparing brock Hoffman now to what
Zach Martin was at the time and my state Zach
Martin when he was an All Pro.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
And my statement was, I'm trying to get an All
Pro like Zach Martin in his prime, in his prime.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
So staying on the offensive line. I am still one
of these people that goes back to what Connor b
b was at Kansas State.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
He had a good rookie year, all of them, but
I'm saying he was an All American guard, but he
was always projected to go center. He talked about that
that while he was starting to guard in Kansas State,
he was taking snaps after back to the center. They
always projected him to be a center in the NFL. Yes,
he was great guard in college, but they're projected to
be centered. Just like Zach Martin, great tackling college projected
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to be guard. That happens all the time. That doesn't
take away from what he did in college.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
You don't think it had to do a lot with
their need here.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Had to do what their need. Of course, there were
times when he could have played tackle.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
He told them for other teams he might have been
a guard here if they needed him to be a
Cooper Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Well, I'm just tend though that he even before the
Cowboys picked him, was working at center because scouts and
told his coaches told him, you will probably be a
guard in the NFL, I mean a center in NFL.
So he was already preparing to make the moon. It's
it's the Andre Gerards. Yeah, you was already preparing to
make the moon. You had him at a guard in
the center, and for it. I always thought Andre was
an outstanding center.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Eventually he was, but he's he was mainly a guard
at Colorado then when he had to spend some time
at center there.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
But I think about.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Cooper bebe in terms of especially with this old offensive
line from coach from Kansas State now being here, would
they be better, sir to put him at guard and
then go get another center, which is probably your ability
to get one of the top two centers in the draft.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
You probably can get one of those guys in the
later rounds right and later. So I'm glad I asked
him about that here. I'm glad you asked of question
because we've asked Shoddy that several times. I know you
asked office line coach that several times. But I shot
at that again at the owner's meeting last week where
I was when I was absolutely show he said, they
prefer to keep BB at center. That's their preference, That's
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what they want to do. That's what they're gonna try
to do. Now. Obviously, the goal is to put the
best five on the field, which is why if you
draft the tackle and he's better at guard and Tyler
gott and you can do that. So obviously you can
do that same thing as center. But the focus, even
with his can't stayed office line coach here, is to
keep BB.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
Or at least that's what he wants everybody in the
league to believe.
Speaker 9 (12:32):
We're a center, and as a right, what should you're
not gonna be playing cat's mouth with a damn center
in the middle rounds because you're not taking one in
the first round, so you don't have to be cloaking
down or with the damn center in the middle rounds.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
You don't think they try to conceal their plans in
the fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh rounds all the.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
Way through for a damn center in the middle of
the player you want.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
They have so many needs, they're not hopefully they're picking
the best player available, and they're not targeting guys already
when you don't know who's gonna be on the board
in the middle round and hopefully you're gonna pick the
best based on your need, but you're gonna pick the
best player available. You're not targeting a guy in the
third or fourth round weeks before the draft. So so
that's how.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
You get into targeting guys whose jerseys they can sell them.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
That's how you get in trouble. Okay, I picked the
best player. That's how you get. That's how you get
That's how you get Taco Charleton over t J. Watt.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
I understand what Shoddy's saying, and I got to go
about what the man says.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Early April.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
All right, But as someone once told me, sports is fluid,
and all of a sudden you sit up here on
on draft board draft day and you just okay.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Hey, hey, the best player is the center. The guy's
a good center. He might be better than BB in center.
Let's move BB to guard player, and.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Well, BB might be better than the guard that we have.
Now they can play option quarterback, there's no question about that.
But I don't think they've been consistent. That's not their focus.
Well before you know they've been when when the office
line coach came here. We've talked to Shotty about this
as they bigger and we talked and listen, I hear you.
But we talk off the record too. We have conversations.
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We don't want to They've never even intimated. No one
is intimated that they want to do that. Obviously, they
will do what they have to do to put the
best five on the field because they want the trenches
are important. You talked about fixing the trenches and fixing
the line on both sides of the line, and you
want your best five out there. But that is no
conversation on off the record. Have they even hinted that
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that's what they're inclined.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Would you be surprised if they took an offensive lineman
in the first round.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yes, I would be surprised just because you've you've taken
a lineman in each of the in the first round
each the last three drafts. But the fact that they
got Membo coming in. I think the Capitals are doing
their due diligence so they can take the best place.
I think intelligence, but I don't think that's what they
want to do. I think again, as we talked about
this whole hum off season, you're trying to sell jerseys
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from a guy that's injured. I think you can get
more knowledge out of a skill position player and shot,
and they need it and they needed help proceeding and Shot.
He talked about. When he talked about guys he wanted
a twelfth overall pick, he talked about building from the
outside end corner.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Which contradicts is we want to be physical, we win
both sides of the line.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Well, you do want to do that, but he said,
when you're talking about premium picks and special guys, when
you look for that special pick and you hope you're
not at the up here next year, he wants a corner.
He wants guys that affect the quarterback. He wants guys
to score touchdown, the guys that play one on one
like a left tackle, like an end, like a cornerback,
like a receiver, or a quarterback. Those were positions he volunteered.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
So just ending this thing on the on the offensive
line that come back into this. They basically told us
last year after drafting Tyler Geyton that they understood this
was going to take some time. And if you draft
a offensive tackle high, then time is up.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
That's my next Then what.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Jerry say at the end of last season the biggest
mistake he thinks he made was overestimating what it would
mean to play two rookies on the offensive lines.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Was that now he's trying to change his tune. That
they believe in guy, and we'll see.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
But the problem with he's on his jersey.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
The problem with the cowboy expected with draft picks is
they don't want to be wrong. If you have to
admit you're wrong on the first round pick, they're not ready.
Are they ready to admit they made a mistake.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Here's why they need to get a difference maker on
offense in the first round, and maybe in the first
two rounds, maybe a wide receiver and a running back.
Is the best pairing because last year they averaged twenty
point six points per game. That's the fewest since twenty fifteen,
which means the entire Dak Prescott era. Now, I understand
part of that was because Dak missed half the season,
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but they went from being second in the NFL in
scoring margin at plus one ninety four to twenty six
at minus one eighteen. That three hundred and twelve point
drop ther biggest in NFL history, according to Elias. That's
why they need explosive playmakers. When we get a healthy quarterback.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
When we come back, let's dive into the healthy quarterback
and dive into Joe Milton who is now in the
quarterback room.
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No, I guess we're talking about dak and you know
we got was Zuka. Joe. I'm sorry, Joe with the
seat thing sec thing college football robbers would never die.
And people at SEC used to call him overthrow Joe
because the dude can throw the ball at country mile
and from the south from a small town country mile.
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And you saw that in New England last year. And
he certainly has a cannon for the arm. And one
thing you talk about him and his upside the cowfal
mad a trade last week for Joe Milton. They needed
a backup quarterback, certainly, that's something that Steven and Shotty
talked about it. The owners being Jerry talked about them
make it move for the back of a quarterback. I
knew they weren't. They did not want to spend draft capital.
One certainly won in the first, second or third rounds.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Yet there are people who still think they're going to
draft a quarterback even after making this movie.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
Yeah, which makes no sense.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yeah, if they do, it's gonna be late rounds. But
they weren't going to do it in the first two days.
And there's no quarterback that could get even after the
first round who they felt could help them be a
backup this year. So they let Cooper Rush go h
and win game for them to shift. Something happened to
Deck better than Joe Milton, right, and you got to
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stack him up against the draft class and what you're
going to get real career and yeah, and I think yeah,
and Will Green and think about Joe Millsy had three
years left on his contract at Control over that it's
only three million dollars. Cooper Rush signed with Baltimore for
four million dollars a year. The Cowboys felt that was
too high considering what they were paying that and they
didn't want to spend that type of money on the
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back a quarterback, but they did want someone with some
upside like a Trey Lance and who they could develop
to be a backup for Dak Prescott. Again, people out there,
don't be a casual. This is not a threat to
Dak Prescott.
Speaker 8 (22:14):
But they said he was a trading because he was
a threat to Drake Mate.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
He thought he was a threat. He thought he should
be playing instead of the guy the Patriots.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Two different organizations, to different environments, two different quarterbacks, two
different salaries for those quarterbacks, and one is a a
starter and one's not a rookie. He was still trying
to gain confidence and to two different new coaches. But
this is not a threat to Dak Prescott. This is
more about them showing up a whole as the.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
He's missed games for the last five years. He's missed
what twenty five games.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
So you need somebody to play. But it's not a
threat for him at the start. It's all I'm saying,
But yeah, you need somebody to win game because he's
had the missing games. But the good news regarding to Dak,
as you know move on in this conversation, is he
appears to be healthy and the head of schedule in
his rehab from the torn hamstring that was torn off
the bone. We've seen viral videos of him throwing with
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the receivers the last couple of weeks. Uh, he looks slim.
He looks trim Uh sirat Jack Ferguson called him, uh
uh slim, slim reaper, nicknamed the Kadi has. He joked
about him, you know, losing fifty pounds or whatever else.
But he does look slim.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
He looks We never really thought Dak was out of shape.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
No, he's that's right, he's already worked hard.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
I would make too much of that.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
No, No, but his body doves look different, you.
Speaker 8 (23:35):
Know, So he's wait redistribute.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
Yeah, he's gonna run again, like you want.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Well, he and I talked to about that and he said,
it's not necessarily him running like Kylin Murray in Arizona.
And he said that Kyler really talking to Clayton Adams.
Colerader Murray didn't really want to run a lot.
Speaker 14 (23:50):
But he did.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
But the importance is scrambling because their defensive ends are
too athletic. The pastor of the too athletic. You have
to be able to ramble and make plays and so
you don't need a statue. Now that's the game has changed.
It's evolved, and so it's not necessarily about zone reads.
But you have to be athletic enough and nimble enough
to move an over in the pocket and make play
(24:13):
with you if you have to, when you have to,
you have to do that. And so that's something he
believes that can't do. They're not looking for Mississippi State Deck,
but they do need him to be able to.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
Bunty sixteen did a lot of lower about the injuries.
So you know, I don't know that that deck's coming
back between the ankle and the hands.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
Once you're going to be thirty two straight. His tenth year, I.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Remember Aaron Rodgers was rushing for more yards to them,
you don't have to be here.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
We go again. This is where the trouble started.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Joe flack Old rushing for more yards than him, Brady Racial,
I'm talking about older quarterbacks. You picked the guys, pick
the older guys, and who had more yards work than
that quarter And that's the thing is Dak heard it.
(25:02):
Man brought it up at the press conference.
Speaker 9 (25:05):
And then what happened, Clarence, He went out there and
spread it down for you and that thing off the bone,
but had the Cowboys longest run of the season in
the process.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
And that and that's again another problem.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
But hey, can I if I could, I did reach
out to somebody knowing the New England staff about Milton,
then asked what their opinion was.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
The overthrow.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
Overthrown because he's trying to overthrow the starter.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
They said he was big, athletic, huge arm, very confident,
thinks he should be the starter at mace On.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
Not sure about his football IQ it.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Making it to the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Overthrow, not overthrown the receiver, overthrow the starting quarter I
like that.
Speaker 6 (25:51):
We can say you say you had to have some
palace intrigue.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I mean up there in New England, Little Jason over
throw and everything to decertified that we're having this banter
and you're just sitting there a stone.
Speaker 7 (26:06):
Face, because I don't never like it when they say
the black quarterback got a low football like you.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Okay, we were talking about overthrow part, I know, but
I got stuck on that part. We were having a
good time feeling good about this banter.
Speaker 7 (26:19):
I mean, that's just me, man, because that's that's man.
Somebody somebody can't be, everybody can't be at the party.
Somebody got to step up.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
They didn't say that load football like you, No, they
just that's just me.
Speaker 8 (26:31):
Man, because my my immediate examples.
Speaker 7 (26:34):
I was, okay, I need some examples of this that
is low football like you, because it's too easy to
blanket it to say black quarterbacks got the low football
like you.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Overall the.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Football world, like the trade of Joe Milton, Yeah, I think.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
The effectively what moved forty one spots down to get
a guy who's a viable backup and maybe a potential
starter later.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
In his career, winning right and overall the one game
he did start.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Overall, what the Cowboys are done in the off season,
they've done decent football moves. They don't have any special players,
but they've done things Unlike last year they did nothing.
They've done things a short position. And you look at
a lot of the guys, including the quarterback, most of
the guys that they're they're gambling on upside. They're gambling
on them getting better in Dallas than they were where
(27:23):
they were. Like Peyton turned the former first round pick
diversive end, Okay, Kyrie Elam, the former first round pick cornerback.
They're gambling on them being better in Dallas in a
different environment, being better here. And they didn't give up
a lot. So I don't even to say, but they
didn't Okay, but they didn't give up a lot. Can
I get somebody that end up bleepingam? Can I just
get some dudes they can play again? I didn't even
say big. But not a lot of investment in these guys. Okay,
(27:45):
So I don't have a lot of it, but they
have a lot of potential.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
I'm just saying, but talking now, you're talking over them,
just because.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
I see that I know him. I started looking in
his eyes. I know you're finn go negative. I'm just
trying to get I'm not negative because he wasn't let me.
He was cutting his eyes. I was talking. You get
get credit for watching your kids. No, because of you.
Speaker 7 (28:08):
You ain't get credit for doing what you're supposed to do.
You ain't get credit for trying to sign some guys.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
You have this last week?
Speaker 6 (28:14):
You know five five former first round picks.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Yeah, five former first round There's something you're basing it on.
All I'm saying is you there there's a consistence is
of uniformity. Most of the guys a former first round picks.
A lot of the guys, the guys that they scouted
in the draft, who they liked from drafting. Are you
going back on their draft?
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Scouting report? And some of the guys, the guys that
they've had before h Clayton Adams had Paris Campbell in Indy. Okay,
just the familiarity. He didn't get nothing in Indy. He
did it very productive Indy. He just hasn't been productive
since Indy. He was productive in Indie. Look at the numbers.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
I think it'd be better if you went and traded
for first round picks who were accomplished and lived up
the expectations.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Got to spend you got draft that means you gotta
spend money.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
Okay, what they saving the money for?
Speaker 8 (28:57):
Have we figured that out?
Speaker 15 (28:58):
You?
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Jared said that most things in his life he's things
like he spent, he over spent for, He's read over
spent for Michael Partiss because most of the things life
over spendfle He also said that there was nothing in
his life that he wanted it he couldn't get when
you talk about you talk about so quickly.
Speaker 6 (29:20):
No, no, I'm going back to its.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Your philosophy. What they've done here.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
I saw I saw a team try this in the
collegiate level a couple of years ago, and they decided
to go get three guys who were high school all
Americans from Nick Saban.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Why are you talking about the TCU man Nick Saban?
That was bad and cast them off. That was bad.
And these three they got all well did the dot well?
And you know what, at the end of the day,
they couldn't blame.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
There was kp as Mickey always talks about, well, what
why the last group Mickey spag Nola, Why did the
last group? I'm doing I'm doing everything, I'm bringing it
all and so you're sitting here buying into what they're saying.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I'm not buying it. Sound like that? Why that why?
I said, I got a glance, I said, I said
there was consistency, some unique's, some things about all of
them that you could put in the group.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
You're explaining the rationale.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
That's all I was doing. I'm not by I said,
they're gambling on up I said, gambling very rare.
Speaker 8 (30:24):
That it's support.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
And did I not say gambling on upside? It's very
rare that he needs me, I said, gambling on upside.
Speaker 6 (30:32):
I said, I recognized that he needs me.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
I said they were gambling on upside. That's all I
was saying.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
You said that, I'm not more active than they were last.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
They were they because they signed more players. They just
signed nobody before the draft. They signed one guy doing something. Yes,
And that's just I said it among the guys. Look
at the bar. We've gone from it.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
And I said, I don't give them credit, nothing something.
Now we're gonna sit around here. You you were, you
didn't make it, but we're gonna.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Give you it.
Speaker 6 (30:57):
Used to be, Hey, let's go get Dion from the
forty nine ers.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Right right, listen, I'm o'clock at the club and you're
just trying to get something. No, I'm no boy to
a ten. Wait on, I'm on the record saying I'm
on the records saying I don't know that they are
a priest will be better talent wise now than they
were at the end of the season. Okay, let's just
(31:21):
I don't know that they are better, and so I'm
saying that.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
That'd be like the Ravens trading for Mozzie Smith and saying, oh,
he's a first round pick with the Cowboys.
Speaker 6 (31:29):
I mean, he's got to be a good Do you
think that.
Speaker 8 (31:31):
They're appreciably better than they were at the end of
the year.
Speaker 6 (31:33):
No, but I don't know that they're better.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
But at least they didn't take the same failed approach
that they did last year where they merely let guys
leave and didn't replace him entirely.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
On their draft.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
The draft is going to determine, Okay, themselves and Washington
and Philly, and it's a.
Speaker 8 (31:51):
Big given seas I'm giving incomplete.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
They So, I Daniel Jeremiah's pretty well respected draft analysts.
Speaker 8 (31:58):
Let me hear, let me hear what he says.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
He's said, there's not a lot of superstar players in
this draft. But you can get three or four quality
starting players. And that's what the Cowboys.
Speaker 8 (32:08):
They need three of them.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Yeah, that's what they and he right, So because of
what they did. And I was trying to say that
they can draft true and get the best player available
and not focus on a position because they have a need,
you know, because they needed to show up. Yeah. But yeah,
but and they need a running back, but they don't
have to be a wide receiver. And yeah, and the
rs are if you don't get a wide receiver early,
if you don't get a wide receiver early, you're not
(32:32):
gonna get one that's gonna be a possible number two.
So let's that's why I see I'm taking a wide
receiver in the first round.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Let's tie this segment back into the quarterbacks. Here is
the quarterback and room better now than it was at
the end of the year.
Speaker 8 (32:47):
Shot, that's a great question.
Speaker 6 (32:51):
I see.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah, Well, Dak healthy back.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
About there's three quarterbacks in the room you're gonna have,
You're gonna have two.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
I'm gonna say no, okay, because Dak's missed a lot
of time and Cooper Rush has proven that he can
at least go five hundred and hold things down until
Dak gets back if he has an injury that he's
able to overcome in the course of the season. And
I mean Trey Lance still gave you a guy with
who you thought had the promise that Milton has.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
So I think no.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I would say yes because of Dak. Dak is back,
ready to go. They believe he's ready to go. He
believe he's ready to go Dek.
Speaker 6 (33:31):
But we're not talking about Dak. We're talking about the
other two guys.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
And I don't think the other two guys matter. I
think they do matter. I said, I don't think, well
my opinion, Well my opinion.
Speaker 6 (33:43):
Last year Cooper Rush started more games and won more
games than DK.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
That's fine.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
So you can't say and he doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
And he just sighed for four million dollars in the
Cowboy didn't want to bring him Baca. They thought one
million more was too much for him. So the value
of him.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
Way never make mistakes.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Nobody else the Cross. They was trying to make him
their starter and give him a whole lot of money
to be the backup. That's what I'm saying. And so
we can evaluate the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
One of the best teams in football, took him as
your their backup to a two time league MVP.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
They gave four million dollars. I'm saying that we can
evaluate the player, and the player is what he is.
Nobody's gonna make him their start now one of thirty
two teams are gonna consider making him their starter. Certainly
Baltimore made him their backup at four million dollars was
a low for low backup money. Uh again, that my opinion.
(34:34):
Because he asked the question all he would each person
you had a chance to talk, has had a time
MV you had not seeing guys you had a chance
to a chance to talk. I had a chance. My
answer is they're better with Dak Prescott and whoever behind him.
Thank you, clear, we're gonna take it. Come back, it's
Michael Parsons. Okay. It has an emotional time over the weekend.
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Speaker 6 (37:14):
We're supposed to be done by now.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
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Speaker 8 (37:17):
Yeah, let's get to go in the toll ways, backing up, baby,
let's go.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Everybody's gonna be watching the Mavericks and look at the
night you're gonna be in the house.
Speaker 8 (37:23):
No, man, I don't need to subject myself to that foolishness.
Speaker 6 (37:26):
You don't want one of those cool T shirts.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
No, you're gonna be representing NBC five at the arena tonight.
The ac let don't get this. Don't positive positive make somebody?
This is when you need positive path. It's he predicting
your maths win. I don't know, trust me he is.
But what do you to know?
Speaker 3 (37:48):
First office, the Lakers coming to town, and we know
there's a big, strong contingent of Dallas Laker fans. All
show takes a lot of people there and to see
some folks. I even respond somebody on social media before
I came in here. I said, you cheered for Luca.
This is this is math math fans cheering for Luca,
cheering against you own. This is you drinking poison hoping
(38:10):
they die. That makes no sense.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
I can't do it. I mean, I don't. I don't
get it.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
You can be mad at Nico Harrison the gym and
want to fire them all day, but why do you
want to go out there today and cheer against your own.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
And cheer care for the Lakers. You cheer Luka also
cheer for the Lakers. And I can't do it. Yeah,
I can't cut for it. I don't. I don't.
Speaker 6 (38:31):
I don't want that to happen.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Maybe you shouldn't have traded a generational superstar to your
one of your conference rivals.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
No, that's that's a point. Be mad at Luca, be
mad at Nico. Don't cheer for the Lakers.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
You don't have to cheer for the Lakers. You can
just hope for good things for Luca.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
I mean, I I watched this happen in Cleveland when
they when Bill Belichick let go Bernie Cosau. You have
Browns fans actively cheering against their own team.
Speaker 8 (38:56):
Done the man?
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Yeah, subirds. When when when the Cowboys when the Super Bowl?
They had Cleveland folks they you know, they meet. They
sent media to Atlanta to cover the games. Could Berney
get to win a championship?
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Just one like he won one, like riding the beating
and ran the coming down as backa. I just it
just I was just very surprised, Like this is what
you're gonna do.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
I mean, you can hate the move all day long,
but actively get out here and cheer against your own
team drinking poison.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
Because it seems like if you're cheering from the Mavericks,
you're supporting Nico.
Speaker 15 (39:28):
No.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Yeah, well so if you cheer for the Cowboy, you're
supporting Jerry and everything he does.
Speaker 6 (39:34):
And this is a unique circumstance.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
No, but that's really what the fact that's they're.
Speaker 6 (39:38):
Not in general the fans would cheer for the MAVs.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
No, But that's that's the conundrum a lot of cowboy
fans find themselves then, because they're mad at Jerry, the Madi,
his moves, they still spending money at the stadium. Ery
they buy the jersey, they're spending the seats. You're putting
money in Jerry's pocket, even though you're mad at the
product the last thirty years, that's the conundrum they've been in.
Speaker 6 (39:57):
So this is different.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
I know it's different this specific it's the same, but
it's the same family, and you're you're essentially supporting Jerry.
You're made Jerry a billionaire over the last thirty years.
This this this organization has value jump trifle. Okay, in
that time they've won nothing, And so you continue to
(40:19):
go to the stadium. You can continue to support, you
continue to buy jerseys, you can continue to pay for
the popcorn in the in the parking.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
But if they chided Aikman for nothing when he was
in his prime and he came back as a giant,
I could certainly understand fans here cheering for Aikman.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
No I agree. I'm not talking about the cheering part.
I'm talking about when you continue to put money into
the Cowboys, you're tacitly supporting the move Jerry's making. That's
all I'm saying. Okay, am I right or wrong?
Speaker 6 (40:50):
I don't think it's situation you're.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Tacitly supporting them. I'm letting you have your point. I'm
asking do you agree and not agree? Are am I
right or wrong? Jack Taylor?
Speaker 8 (41:00):
I'm ready to get back to the football tub.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
This is that football supporting Jared.
Speaker 7 (41:04):
We took an exit ramp, and we stayed too far
on the exit ramp, Michael pars we're gonna talk about,
said Dick Charles.
Speaker 6 (41:09):
We've went past the stuckies.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
Yes, let's go with the breaking news here most trusted
the Cowboys have signed.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Guard one year deal with guard off of the guard
Sadik Charles, who signed a one year deal. He's only
twenty five to the young guy signed a one year
deal with the Tennessee Titans last March and unexpected to retired.
The first round pick Unespecially retired in training.
Speaker 6 (41:31):
Camp unexpectedly Before Before.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
He retired, he was supposed to be the starting right
guard for the Tennessee. Uh, he's lined up and he
was a fourth round pick of the Washington Commanders of
l s U played four seasons in Washington, uh, starting
thirty thirty five games at left and right guard. So
again the competition for our guy brought Coffer just stayed
(41:59):
in the Okay, hey, look the more and more I
hear the more and more and continueing. There's saw some
Richards tackle.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
I don't see them taking an offensive lineman here up
on the guys with potentially.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Yeah, they load on guys at guard. You know, you
look at the guy they got the Robert Jones for Miami.
Now they got some dig Charles. They're they're trying to
create competition inside of Brockhabma.
Speaker 8 (42:18):
To what keep Cooper beb fat gout of me?
Speaker 3 (42:23):
Okay, Michael Parsons over the weekend, Home Brother decided to
uh tweet about how devastating it was for him as
a Duke basketball fan to watch them lose.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
And this is a fans this is a North Carolina
agenda here. Nowise they noted North Carolina fans. He hates
everything about Duke. He hates Duke fans and so any
misery Duke fans have he delights in.
Speaker 4 (42:52):
I think the Duke basketball program was equally upset when
the Cowboys lost at home to the Packers.
Speaker 6 (42:55):
In the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
I don't think so, yes, but he takes delight in
the is theory of Duke fans.
Speaker 7 (43:01):
I think he was pumping up Calvin steps and into
the U n't see Pittinbroke connection, look a different conversation.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
The Final four was beautiful to me to watch Auburn
and Bruce Pearl lose and Duke see Duke.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Both of them both can't stands one see.
Speaker 8 (43:15):
It's about this truth come out now.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
But this is about Michael. Michael was devastating. Mike's a
Duke fan. And that's why tweet. I know he's always
says been a lifelong Duke fans.
Speaker 4 (43:27):
Why because they were good the whole time he was
growing up.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Because he liked Duke.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
Why are people around the world Cowboys five?
Speaker 2 (43:33):
People like why people like the substics? I don't know
why people like Thekers.
Speaker 6 (43:37):
Their dynasty and people like they like people like that.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
But that's that's how he is. He's a Duke fan.
And what did they tweet? Believe?
Speaker 8 (43:44):
Then you get to answer the question, can.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
You get to the tweet.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
He said, it's gonna take a while to get over
this loss, devastating, one of the most devastating losses he's
ever seen.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
And you said, what you compared that to?
Speaker 4 (43:54):
What?
Speaker 2 (43:55):
What are you saying? Sound like you're ready to take
a gat point No, his responses.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
People started put it, posting the scores from the packers laws.
People went after, I didn't do that. People are mean,
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
I just posted that. I was empathetic.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
I posted the tissue Jeff. They just hands you the
tissue box, okay, because the man was hurting.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Listen, Sometimes sometimes sometimes what you you shouldn't tweet everything
you think because it can take it can take backfire
on you. And when you say that that's one of
the worst losses you've had, and you've had some horrible losses.
Play loss with the Cowboys, it just comes across wrong.
That's part comes across wrong. The Cowboy fans and the
(44:42):
fans who will watch you play it and are disappointed
by the planid production. It comes across wrong. That cannot
be you didn't sound you didn't tweet that type of her.
Speaker 6 (44:53):
Petty everybody in the.
Speaker 4 (44:57):
People.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
And so I'm thinking, when knew he's gonna bring up
Michael tweets. I thought it was gonna pick up the
tweet today when he talked about going ballheaded for twenty
twenty five and they started posting the pictures of the
ball headed the.
Speaker 6 (45:08):
Ball bro he looks like this guy.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
It looked like that guy right there. Clean, mister Clean,
are you master that clean? I'm not joining him.
Speaker 6 (45:16):
If you twa gets the guest on the pod, he
might do it.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
He should do you should? You should?
Speaker 8 (45:24):
You know he got hold of I'm gonna send no
Texas stadium over there.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
I think they both could do it together, go on
the podcast and both take it off, just go home together.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
The real story with Mica is what when he and
his agent gonna sit down with Jerry Jones to get
this deal done? Okay, As we reported last week, Jerry
and Michael have a handshake deal on a record breaking
contract that's the richest non quarterback contract in football.
Speaker 8 (45:52):
Can be handshake deal of your agent.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
Ain't yeah because it's a handshape. But you those two
and Jerry said, I'm paying riding checking Michael playing football.
Don't need the agent well to get the deal done,
to get it across the gold line. They need to
talk to dates and Jerry does not do any business
deal not consulting counsel. Micah needs to consult counsel. And
I don't think there's a situation where a lot of
(46:15):
people like Jerry is sometimes they talk to the player
to do it in run and get a team from
the deal. From my understanding talking to people that are
familiar with the contract and what they talked about, it
is not a Tyler Tyren Smith deal. Where's low budget,
low ball, it's not even market.
Speaker 4 (46:33):
You think that shake deal is going to stand up
when if TJ. Watt signs the deal that makes him
the highest pained non quarterback in football.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
I mean that you know, depends on when they signed,
you know, and obviously that's why you go get your agent.
But if they do it now, and I don't think
from my understand my understanding is they're not waiting on TJ.
Whtt They they've seen the numbers.
Speaker 4 (46:53):
Well, what Jerry's already said, he wants to see certain
things for common Micah. First, he wants to see that
he's not just posturing with being a leader. He wants
it's not just part of his negotiating taxi.
Speaker 6 (47:05):
Jarry wants to see him do it.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Jerry's the one who shook hands with Michael on the terms.
I'm just saying he's the one of shook came with
Mike on the term.
Speaker 6 (47:12):
I'm just looking for the deal.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
The deal is because they have not talked to the agent.
The agent will be Michaeh asked them to call his agent.
They have not done well. He asked it before that.
My point is Jerry is posturing with I need to
see much something more. No, he's already decided I want
to pay him this type of money. Okay, he's already
decided he's gonna have to pay him this those he
(47:36):
has decided, Uh is come to terms with however you
want to look at it. He's gonna pay a certain
amount for Michael Parsons and they all want him here
for OTAs and minie camp and all that. I think
it's gonna get done before training camp. I don't know
when it's gonna get done. Knowing Jerry, Hey, he might
try to upstate the draft to get it done. Doing draft,
(47:57):
we can be on point. What what I think?
Speaker 8 (48:01):
I think they said you can't do that.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
You can't do business doing that they do business all
the time. They make trains and do a lot of
stuff doing drive weekend.
Speaker 8 (48:07):
Not that Jerry would care about that because James's man.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
You're going swim partying shot here party thought it at
all shot as we leave the podcast here, Yeah.
Speaker 8 (48:15):
Really come home, Michael. It's all good baby, you too, though.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
Jock and I had dinner at win some Prime last
night and night a little new steak hous little restaurant
in downtown Dallas in Trinity Groves Areas. It's good times.
Speaker 6 (48:28):
Okay, it was free there we go, free drinks. That's
all I wanted to hear.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
It was like the Grand Open. You knew this.
Speaker 6 (48:35):
What about us? Was last minute, last minute.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
It was last minute last night.
Speaker 6 (48:44):
Yeah, that was free.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
And final thought.
Speaker 6 (48:51):
I'm not ever eating with these two again.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
Well, well, well I see you Friday night. What I'll
see you Friday night?
Speaker 6 (48:57):
What's Friday night?
Speaker 2 (48:58):
The Children's Cancer Fun game? Though?
Speaker 6 (49:00):
That in Troy, Oh, I don't generally go to those things.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
There you go, speet writer thing dead. Gotta gotta go
to those things.
Speaker 6 (49:08):
I heard somebody going to be going two weeks.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
Somebody had to beat right, huh, Hey, man, I missed
you guys. I missed you, guys. I gave you all
some information to talk about last week, but I missed
you guys, and I'm glad I'm back meeting mass Uh.
I enjoyed this time.
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 1 (00:23):
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
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from high like a good sniper. All right, Agent zero,
it's in effect you can get your number zero jersey
(00:52):
for the first time ever in the history of the
franchise was started in nineteen sixty.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
The NFL on the allowed you to wear a single
ditch is a few years ago, and I think zero
only became available a couple of years ago. Uh yeah,
Agent zero. This is something tomarve on Overshaw on Ward Texas.
He basically branded a Texas Now Texas allows the best
defensive players in the best linebacker where Agent zero or zero,
Uh after Uh, Demary and Overshaw on something he's wanted
(01:21):
to wear. Uh. Interestingly enough, we don't know when he's
gonna be back on the field because he's injured. He's injured.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I understand he may not be back healthy and ready
to go and play in the game until November. But
the Cowboys are rolling out this campaign coordinated media and
marketing campaign.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
After a who hum offseason, they're rolling out big to
big to do throughout today. I mean big to do
on all the social media channels today. Agent zero giving
a Marven Overshow on the number he's wanted. I talked
to him last off season, Uh, and he asked for
zero and he said they told me it wasn't available.
It was Rowdy's number and.
Speaker 6 (02:00):
Were stubborn it available.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Cowboys were stubborn about Rowdy been cut and right ain't
been cut. But the Cowboys need to get a fan
something to feel good about it again. What has been
largely whole home off season? Uh, A whole home coaching higher,
you haven't really had a lot of difference making players
sign the free agency.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Listen, I like Shotty, I know you laughed, but you
know that's that's not gonna sell tickets, and this.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Is I'm not watching the guy.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I'm not selling November.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I'm not swearing number zero thirteen tickets.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
But it's right on brand. I'm not selling tickets, but
we're selling jerseys, and those jersey are gonna fly off
the shelves like hot cakes. Fans are already looking you
look at the Twitter impressions on this. They're excited about
buying zero. This will sell for the Cowboy. It's right
on brand for the Cowboys.
Speaker 7 (02:45):
But it used to be a franchise that talked about
championships and Super Bowls.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
It used to be gonna make no honey. This is true,
and they ain't made no honey and championships in a
long time. So now you've been yes.
Speaker 7 (02:58):
Talked about jersey saying we ain't talk about games about
jersey sales.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
For a player who's been in the league two years
and hasn't finished either season unfortunately because of ACL injuries,
he say sell like hotcakes?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Are they gonna sell like hotcakes?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Have any of your social media friends texted you to say,
hey man about Twitter?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Based on the response I've seen on Twitter and the
way fans have talked about this, I think and I
think that the Cowboys have a feeling. If you watch
the videos they got doing the jerseys, they got T shirts, branded, tchers,
different things. They believe it's gonna sell. You know, well,
they wouldn't have marketed and said whenever anybody in the
league done a marketing campaign social media campaign for a
(03:45):
jersey change for a guy who was not a pro bowler.
You know, I remember when Lebron did from you know
and Kobe and what it else. But tell me a
media marketing campaign for a guy who changed jerseys in
the off season, who was not at least productive special player.
And I'm thinking that the Cowboys certainly have some intel
(04:06):
or some feeling so intuition that this is going to sell.
That's why they're doing it.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Hopefully there are make some picks in the draft next
in two weeks that'll sell more than number zero jerseys, hopefully.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
But I'm just saying right now, and we're not at
the draft yet, this is this is something that the
Cowboy fans can't feel good about. And as I was
Overshawn feels good about the return to get I don't
I understand he won't be back into November healthy and
ready to go. He feels good about that. When he
comes back, he's going to be able to be himself.
I don't think I'm hoping. I don't think the Cowboys
(04:43):
would have put all of their machinery behind this in
this marketing campaign if they didn't feel good. He's gonna
be on the field.
Speaker 8 (04:52):
Well, I mean he's gonna be on the field.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I'm talking about on the field ready to play and
to make something. To put some substance behind this marketing campaign.
I'm under saying whether whether we know or not, I'm
thinking they have to feel good about that to put their.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Might and they put their mic this time last year
or anyone to finished the season.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
Yeah, but they put They don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
They don't know, But I'm just saying that they feel
good about the fact that they put their marketing mic behind.
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (05:17):
Hopefully he will, but history says he won't. I mean,
anybody you talk to who's ever had an a cl
it's always the next year, the next season, the season
after that.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
But he did overcome one long yeah, his rookie year,
and he was a sensational player for the brief time
he was on the field last year. But now it's
now it's twice as hard. Now he's got two of
these injuries.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
It is because they could use they could use the
dynamic linebacker. They use dynamic player linebacker. And the thing
about it is that you only really have one special
player on defense and two I guess with Bland, but
Trevor on Dias won't be ready for to start the
season either. And so outside of Michael, and outside of Bland,
who's you know had an injury March season last year,
(05:57):
you don't have.
Speaker 7 (05:58):
Any playing over there yet because Blad has had one
good one, I mean one great one when historical one.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Okay, but again you're we're we're all in the same boat.
But my point is you don't have a lot of
special players on defense, is correct, And they need special
players on defense if you try to keep up with
the Eagles and everybody else and and try to really
get over that thirty year hump, you need more than Mike.
I don't care how much you paid Mike, and they're
gonna pay Mike at some point, but it's like paying
that you. Dak needs help, Michael needs help.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
So ask this question, please do We're since you were
saying you know, they feel good about it. Put a
marketing campaign. How does that?
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I'm just connecting the docts I'm saying to me, because
you don't really do a marketing campaign for Jerseys switches
to me, I'm asking you, well, just based on my intel,
based on my history, based on when you put two
and two together, it seems like those doctor condition is
based on this, right. Yeah, so yeah, they feel good
about it.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Would that prohibit them from using let's say, a first, second,
or third round pick on the linebacker.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
I don't think that they're not taking the linebacker with
the first round pick. I mean, I think Michael Parks
was special when you look at just like the history
well or the history linebacker A and we're talking about
a off the ball inside linebacker, not a EDG edge
rushing linebacker. Okay, so they're not taking an inside but the.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Dominent position for their defensive coordinator.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
It has, but you're not taking one with twelfth overall pick. Okay,
so you're not doing that twelfth overall for sure. I
just said, first second.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
Not sure there is one anybody would take?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I don't think there's one that you know,
maybe the third I just don't say I think they
have too many needs. And you look at the guys
that are bringing in and you got to take some
read some of the tea leaves about some of the
guys that brought in with the thirty visits and stuff
like that. They got a lot of running backs. I
think they're gonna take a running back in the first
two three rounds.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
So of the receivers are up there. Uh, some of
those guys are off as a lineman. A Membos is
now a one of the top ten guy from Missouri tackle.
He's the guy they brought in. So they brought in
a big tackle from Texas to visit. So they're they're
they're doing their due diligence on guys that that are
probably going to be there. Certainly with that twelfth overall pick,
(08:17):
I just don't see it off the ball lineback.
Speaker 7 (08:19):
If they drafted one of them two big tackles, what
would they do with the tackle they drafted last year?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Competition, baby, solid about competition. You can put them the
right tackle, you can, you can you know, do whatever
you can do at the right tackle, don't you do? You?
Has he played like one since you paid him?
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Plays every snap good run blocker. I think the I
think the bigger problems the left tackle.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
It is, and which is why. And the thing about
it is, if most of these guys these two tackles,
if you can also spin them down the guard, some
of what you did with Zach Martin. Zach Martin was
a tackling college. He spun the guard in the NFL
and obviously had a future Hall of Fame career. And
you do need a right guard.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
So, but you thought I was out of line asking
about that position last year. I know.
Speaker 8 (09:11):
This the elephant over here, though, I forget nothing.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Sir, you know why, you know why you're right? Sorry, no, sir,
I said, sir, sir, you know you need the right guard.
I know exactly the guy you was trying to pump
up Hoffman. I'm not trying to go to Warwindhof I'm
trying to improve that position.
Speaker 8 (09:30):
Why you don't like Hoffman?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Try hard exactly, fist demeanor exactly. No, you don't like No,
I like players talent. When we talk about the Eagles
office line and how good they were, when we're talking
about them biting and putching out the play and getting
people upset, No, we were talking about them road grading people.
We were talking about them dirting people. I want somebody
(09:52):
that can dirt, somebody road grade, somebody that's gonna open holes.
Not get you mad because I'm putting you off to
play or getting under your scheme, for the record, for
that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
For the record.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
My question at the time so that then head coach
Mike McCarthy was merely comparing brock Hoffman now to what
Zach Martin was at the time and my state Zach
Martin when he was an All Pro.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
And my statement was, I'm trying to get an All
Pro like Zach Martin in his prime, in his prime.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
So staying on the offensive line. I am still one
of these people that goes back to what Connor b
b was at Kansas State.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
He had a good rookie year, all of them, but
I'm saying he was an All American guard, but he
was always projected to go center. He talked about that
that while he was starting to guard in Kansas State,
he was taking snaps after back to the center. They
always projected him to be a center in the NFL. Yes,
he was great guard in college, but they're projected to
be centered. Just like Zach Martin, great tackling college projected
(10:51):
to be guard. That happens all the time. That doesn't
take away from what he did in college.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
You don't think it had to do a lot with
their need here.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Had to do what their need. Of course, there were
times when he could have played tackle.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
He told them for other teams he might have been
a guard here if they needed him to be a
Cooper Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Well, I'm just tend though that he even before the
Cowboys picked him, was working at center because scouts and
told his coaches told him, you will probably be a
guard in the NFL, I mean a center in NFL.
So he was already preparing to make the moon. It's
it's the Andre Gerards. Yeah, you was already preparing to
make the moon. You had him at a guard in
the center, and for it. I always thought Andre was
an outstanding center.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Eventually he was, but he's he was mainly a guard
at Colorado then when he had to spend some time
at center there.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
But I think about.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Cooper bebe in terms of especially with this old offensive
line from coach from Kansas State now being here, would
they be better, sir to put him at guard and
then go get another center, which is probably your ability
to get one of the top two centers in the draft.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
You probably can get one of those guys in the
later rounds right and later. So I'm glad I asked
him about that here. I'm glad you asked of question
because we've asked Shoddy that several times. I know you
asked office line coach that several times. But I shot
at that again at the owner's meeting last week where
I was when I was absolutely show he said, they
prefer to keep BB at center. That's their preference, That's
(12:14):
what they want to do. That's what they're gonna try
to do. Now. Obviously, the goal is to put the
best five on the field, which is why if you
draft the tackle and he's better at guard and Tyler
gott and you can do that. So obviously you can
do that same thing as center. But the focus, even
with his can't stayed office line coach here, is to
keep BB.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
Or at least that's what he wants everybody in the
league to believe.
Speaker 9 (12:32):
We're a center, and as a right, what should you're
not gonna be playing cat's mouth with a damn center
in the middle rounds because you're not taking one in
the first round, so you don't have to be cloaking
down or with the damn center in the middle rounds.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
You don't think they try to conceal their plans in
the fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh rounds all the.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
Way through for a damn center in the middle of
the player you want.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
They have so many needs, they're not hopefully they're picking
the best player available, and they're not targeting guys already
when you don't know who's gonna be on the board
in the middle round and hopefully you're gonna pick the
best based on your need, but you're gonna pick the
best player available. You're not targeting a guy in the
third or fourth round weeks before the draft. So so
that's how.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
You get into targeting guys whose jerseys they can sell them.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
That's how you get in trouble. Okay, I picked the
best player. That's how you get. That's how you get
That's how you get Taco Charleton over t J. Watt.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
I understand what Shoddy's saying, and I got to go
about what the man says.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Early April.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
All right, But as someone once told me, sports is fluid,
and all of a sudden you sit up here on
on draft board draft day and you just okay.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Hey, hey, the best player is the center. The guy's
a good center. He might be better than BB in center.
Let's move BB to guard player, and.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Well, BB might be better than the guard that we have.
Now they can play option quarterback, there's no question about that.
But I don't think they've been consistent. That's not their focus.
Well before you know they've been when when the office
line coach came here. We've talked to Shotty about this
as they bigger and we talked and listen, I hear you.
But we talk off the record too. We have conversations.
(14:08):
We don't want to They've never even intimated. No one
is intimated that they want to do that. Obviously, they
will do what they have to do to put the
best five on the field because they want the trenches
are important. You talked about fixing the trenches and fixing
the line on both sides of the line, and you
want your best five out there. But that is no
conversation on off the record. Have they even hinted that
(14:31):
that's what they're inclined.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Would you be surprised if they took an offensive lineman
in the first round.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yes, I would be surprised just because you've you've taken
a lineman in each of the in the first round
each the last three drafts. But the fact that they
got Membo coming in. I think the Capitals are doing
their due diligence so they can take the best place.
I think intelligence, but I don't think that's what they
want to do. I think again, as we talked about
this whole hum off season, you're trying to sell jerseys
(14:57):
from a guy that's injured. I think you can get
more knowledge out of a skill position player and shot,
and they need it and they needed help proceeding and Shot.
He talked about. When he talked about guys he wanted
a twelfth overall pick, he talked about building from the
outside end corner.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Which contradicts is we want to be physical, we win
both sides of the line.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Well, you do want to do that, but he said,
when you're talking about premium picks and special guys, when
you look for that special pick and you hope you're
not at the up here next year, he wants a corner.
He wants guys that affect the quarterback. He wants guys
to score touchdown, the guys that play one on one
like a left tackle, like an end, like a cornerback,
like a receiver, or a quarterback. Those were positions he volunteered.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
So just ending this thing on the on the offensive
line that come back into this. They basically told us
last year after drafting Tyler Geyton that they understood this
was going to take some time. And if you draft
a offensive tackle high, then time is up.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
That's my next Then what.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Jerry say at the end of last season the biggest
mistake he thinks he made was overestimating what it would
mean to play two rookies on the offensive lines.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Was that now he's trying to change his tune. That
they believe in guy, and we'll see.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
But the problem with he's on his jersey.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
The problem with the cowboy expected with draft picks is
they don't want to be wrong. If you have to
admit you're wrong on the first round pick, they're not ready.
Are they ready to admit they made a mistake.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Here's why they need to get a difference maker on
offense in the first round, and maybe in the first
two rounds, maybe a wide receiver and a running back.
Is the best pairing because last year they averaged twenty
point six points per game. That's the fewest since twenty fifteen,
which means the entire Dak Prescott era. Now, I understand
part of that was because Dak missed half the season,
(16:48):
but they went from being second in the NFL in
scoring margin at plus one ninety four to twenty six
at minus one eighteen. That three hundred and twelve point
drop ther biggest in NFL history, according to Elias. That's
why they need explosive playmakers. When we get a healthy quarterback.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
When we come back, let's dive into the healthy quarterback
and dive into Joe Milton who is now in the
quarterback room.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Overthrow Joe and uh you do that's what That's what
as the see said up people that you see some
people call him but Zuoka Joe because he got a canon.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Always ken on you to bring the dirty work. Michael
Parsons is a sad man. Will tell you why Mike's sad.
We'll see if he's still in that sadness state. With
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Speaker 2 (20:30):
No, I guess we're talking about dak and you know
we got was Zuka. Joe. I'm sorry, Joe with the
seat thing sec thing college football robbers would never die.
And people at SEC used to call him overthrow Joe
because the dude can throw the ball at country mile
and from the south from a small town country mile.
(20:51):
And you saw that in New England last year. And
he certainly has a cannon for the arm. And one
thing you talk about him and his upside the cowfal
mad a trade last week for Joe Milton. They needed
a backup quarterback, certainly, that's something that Steven and Shotty
talked about it. The owners being Jerry talked about them
make it move for the back of a quarterback. I
knew they weren't. They did not want to spend draft capital.
One certainly won in the first, second or third rounds.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Yet there are people who still think they're going to
draft a quarterback even after making this movie.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
Yeah, which makes no sense.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yeah, if they do, it's gonna be late rounds. But
they weren't going to do it in the first two days.
And there's no quarterback that could get even after the
first round who they felt could help them be a
backup this year. So they let Cooper Rush go h
and win game for them to shift. Something happened to
Deck better than Joe Milton, right, and you got to
(21:38):
stack him up against the draft class and what you're
going to get real career and yeah, and I think yeah,
and Will Green and think about Joe Millsy had three
years left on his contract at Control over that it's
only three million dollars. Cooper Rush signed with Baltimore for
four million dollars a year. The Cowboys felt that was
too high considering what they were paying that and they
didn't want to spend that type of money on the
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back a quarterback, but they did want someone with some
upside like a Trey Lance and who they could develop
to be a backup for Dak Prescott. Again, people out there,
don't be a casual. This is not a threat to
Dak Prescott.
Speaker 8 (22:14):
But they said he was a trading because he was
a threat to Drake Mate.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
He thought he was a threat. He thought he should
be playing instead of the guy the Patriots.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Two different organizations, to different environments, two different quarterbacks, two
different salaries for those quarterbacks, and one is a a
starter and one's not a rookie. He was still trying
to gain confidence and to two different new coaches. But
this is not a threat to Dak Prescott. This is
more about them showing up a whole as the.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
He's missed games for the last five years. He's missed
what twenty five games.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
So you need somebody to play. But it's not a
threat for him at the start. It's all I'm saying,
But yeah, you need somebody to win game because he's
had the missing games. But the good news regarding to Dak,
as you know move on in this conversation, is he
appears to be healthy and the head of schedule in
his rehab from the torn hamstring that was torn off
the bone. We've seen viral videos of him throwing with
(23:12):
the receivers the last couple of weeks. Uh, he looks slim.
He looks trim Uh sirat Jack Ferguson called him, uh
uh slim, slim reaper, nicknamed the Kadi has. He joked
about him, you know, losing fifty pounds or whatever else.
But he does look slim.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
He looks We never really thought Dak was out of shape.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
No, he's that's right, he's already worked hard.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
I would make too much of that.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
No, No, but his body doves look different, you.
Speaker 8 (23:35):
Know, So he's wait redistribute.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
Yeah, he's gonna run again, like you want.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Well, he and I talked to about that and he said,
it's not necessarily him running like Kylin Murray in Arizona.
And he said that Kyler really talking to Clayton Adams.
Colerader Murray didn't really want to run a lot.
Speaker 14 (23:50):
But he did.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
But the importance is scrambling because their defensive ends are
too athletic. The pastor of the too athletic. You have
to be able to ramble and make plays and so
you don't need a statue. Now that's the game has changed.
It's evolved, and so it's not necessarily about zone reads.
But you have to be athletic enough and nimble enough
to move an over in the pocket and make play
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with you if you have to, when you have to,
you have to do that. And so that's something he
believes that can't do. They're not looking for Mississippi State Deck,
but they do need him to be able to.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
Bunty sixteen did a lot of lower about the injuries.
So you know, I don't know that that deck's coming
back between the ankle and the hands.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
Once you're going to be thirty two straight. His tenth year, I.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Remember Aaron Rodgers was rushing for more yards to them,
you don't have to be here.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
We go again. This is where the trouble started.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Joe flack Old rushing for more yards than him, Brady Racial,
I'm talking about older quarterbacks. You picked the guys, pick
the older guys, and who had more yards work than
that quarter And that's the thing is Dak heard it.
(25:02):
Man brought it up at the press conference.
Speaker 9 (25:05):
And then what happened, Clarence, He went out there and
spread it down for you and that thing off the bone,
but had the Cowboys longest run of the season in
the process.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
And that and that's again another problem.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
But hey, can I if I could, I did reach
out to somebody knowing the New England staff about Milton,
then asked what their opinion was.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
The overthrow.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
Overthrown because he's trying to overthrow the starter.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
They said he was big, athletic, huge arm, very confident,
thinks he should be the starter at mace On.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
Not sure about his football IQ it.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Making it to the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Overthrow, not overthrown the receiver, overthrow the starting quarter I
like that.
Speaker 6 (25:51):
We can say you say you had to have some
palace intrigue.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I mean up there in New England, Little Jason over
throw and everything to decertified that we're having this banter
and you're just sitting there a stone.
Speaker 7 (26:06):
Face, because I don't never like it when they say
the black quarterback got a low football like you.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Okay, we were talking about overthrow part, I know, but
I got stuck on that part. We were having a
good time feeling good about this banter.
Speaker 7 (26:19):
I mean, that's just me, man, because that's that's man.
Somebody somebody can't be, everybody can't be at the party.
Somebody got to step up.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
They didn't say that load football like you, No, they
just that's just me.
Speaker 8 (26:31):
Man, because my my immediate examples.
Speaker 7 (26:34):
I was, okay, I need some examples of this that
is low football like you, because it's too easy to
blanket it to say black quarterbacks got the low football
like you.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Overall the.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Football world, like the trade of Joe Milton, Yeah, I think.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
The effectively what moved forty one spots down to get
a guy who's a viable backup and maybe a potential
starter later.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
In his career, winning right and overall the one game
he did start.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Overall, what the Cowboys are done in the off season,
they've done decent football moves. They don't have any special players,
but they've done things Unlike last year they did nothing.
They've done things a short position. And you look at
a lot of the guys, including the quarterback, most of
the guys that they're they're gambling on upside. They're gambling
on them getting better in Dallas than they were where
(27:23):
they were. Like Peyton turned the former first round pick
diversive end, Okay, Kyrie Elam, the former first round pick cornerback.
They're gambling on them being better in Dallas in a
different environment, being better here. And they didn't give up
a lot. So I don't even to say, but they
didn't Okay, but they didn't give up a lot. Can
I get somebody that end up bleepingam? Can I just
get some dudes they can play again? I didn't even
say big. But not a lot of investment in these guys. Okay,
(27:45):
So I don't have a lot of it, but they
have a lot of potential.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
I'm just saying, but talking now, you're talking over them,
just because.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
I see that I know him. I started looking in
his eyes. I know you're finn go negative. I'm just
trying to get I'm not negative because he wasn't let me.
He was cutting his eyes. I was talking. You get
get credit for watching your kids. No, because of you.
Speaker 7 (28:08):
You ain't get credit for doing what you're supposed to do.
You ain't get credit for trying to sign some guys.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
You have this last week?
Speaker 6 (28:14):
You know five five former first round picks.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Yeah, five former first round There's something you're basing it on.
All I'm saying is you there there's a consistence is
of uniformity. Most of the guys a former first round picks.
A lot of the guys, the guys that they scouted
in the draft, who they liked from drafting. Are you
going back on their draft?
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Scouting report? And some of the guys, the guys that
they've had before h Clayton Adams had Paris Campbell in Indy. Okay,
just the familiarity. He didn't get nothing in Indy. He
did it very productive Indy. He just hasn't been productive
since Indy. He was productive in Indie. Look at the numbers.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
I think it'd be better if you went and traded
for first round picks who were accomplished and lived up
the expectations.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Got to spend you got draft that means you gotta
spend money.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
Okay, what they saving the money for?
Speaker 8 (28:57):
Have we figured that out?
Speaker 15 (28:58):
You?
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Jared said that most things in his life he's things
like he spent, he over spent for, He's read over
spent for Michael Partiss because most of the things life
over spendfle He also said that there was nothing in
his life that he wanted it he couldn't get when
you talk about you talk about so quickly.
Speaker 6 (29:20):
No, no, I'm going back to its.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Your philosophy. What they've done here.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
I saw I saw a team try this in the
collegiate level a couple of years ago, and they decided
to go get three guys who were high school all
Americans from Nick Saban.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Why are you talking about the TCU man Nick Saban?
That was bad and cast them off. That was bad.
And these three they got all well did the dot well?
And you know what, at the end of the day,
they couldn't blame.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
There was kp as Mickey always talks about, well, what
why the last group Mickey spag Nola, Why did the
last group? I'm doing I'm doing everything, I'm bringing it
all and so you're sitting here buying into what they're saying.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I'm not buying it. Sound like that? Why that why?
I said, I got a glance, I said, I said
there was consistency, some unique's, some things about all of
them that you could put in the group.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
You're explaining the rationale.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
That's all I was doing. I'm not by I said,
they're gambling on up I said, gambling very rare.
Speaker 8 (30:24):
That it's support.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
And did I not say gambling on upside? It's very
rare that he needs me, I said, gambling on upside.
Speaker 6 (30:32):
I said, I recognized that he needs me.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
I said they were gambling on upside. That's all I
was saying.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
You said that, I'm not more active than they were last.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
They were they because they signed more players. They just
signed nobody before the draft. They signed one guy doing something. Yes,
And that's just I said it among the guys. Look
at the bar. We've gone from it.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
And I said, I don't give them credit, nothing something.
Now we're gonna sit around here. You you were, you
didn't make it, but we're gonna.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Give you it.
Speaker 6 (30:57):
Used to be, Hey, let's go get Dion from the
forty nine ers.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Right right, listen, I'm o'clock at the club and you're
just trying to get something. No, I'm no boy to
a ten. Wait on, I'm on the record saying I'm
on the records saying I don't know that they are
a priest will be better talent wise now than they
were at the end of the season. Okay, let's just
(31:21):
I don't know that they are better, and so I'm
saying that.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
That'd be like the Ravens trading for Mozzie Smith and saying, oh,
he's a first round pick with the Cowboys.
Speaker 6 (31:29):
I mean, he's got to be a good Do you
think that.
Speaker 8 (31:31):
They're appreciably better than they were at the end of
the year.
Speaker 6 (31:33):
No, but I don't know that they're better.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
But at least they didn't take the same failed approach
that they did last year where they merely let guys
leave and didn't replace him entirely.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
On their draft.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
The draft is going to determine, Okay, themselves and Washington
and Philly, and it's a.
Speaker 8 (31:51):
Big given seas I'm giving incomplete.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
They So, I Daniel Jeremiah's pretty well respected draft analysts.
Speaker 8 (31:58):
Let me hear, let me hear what he says.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
He's said, there's not a lot of superstar players in
this draft. But you can get three or four quality
starting players. And that's what the Cowboys.
Speaker 8 (32:08):
They need three of them.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Yeah, that's what they and he right, So because of
what they did. And I was trying to say that
they can draft true and get the best player available
and not focus on a position because they have a need,
you know, because they needed to show up. Yeah. But yeah,
but and they need a running back, but they don't
have to be a wide receiver. And yeah, and the
rs are if you don't get a wide receiver early,
if you don't get a wide receiver early, you're not
(32:32):
gonna get one that's gonna be a possible number two.
So let's that's why I see I'm taking a wide
receiver in the first round.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Let's tie this segment back into the quarterbacks. Here is
the quarterback and room better now than it was at
the end of the year.
Speaker 8 (32:47):
Shot, that's a great question.
Speaker 6 (32:51):
I see.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah, Well, Dak healthy back.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
About there's three quarterbacks in the room you're gonna have,
You're gonna have two.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
I'm gonna say no, okay, because Dak's missed a lot
of time and Cooper Rush has proven that he can
at least go five hundred and hold things down until
Dak gets back if he has an injury that he's
able to overcome in the course of the season. And
I mean Trey Lance still gave you a guy with
who you thought had the promise that Milton has.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
So I think no.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I would say yes because of Dak. Dak is back,
ready to go. They believe he's ready to go. He
believe he's ready to go Dek.
Speaker 6 (33:31):
But we're not talking about Dak. We're talking about the
other two guys.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
And I don't think the other two guys matter. I
think they do matter. I said, I don't think, well
my opinion, Well my opinion.
Speaker 6 (33:43):
Last year Cooper Rush started more games and won more
games than DK.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
That's fine.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
So you can't say and he doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
And he just sighed for four million dollars in the
Cowboy didn't want to bring him Baca. They thought one
million more was too much for him. So the value
of him.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
Way never make mistakes.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Nobody else the Cross. They was trying to make him
their starter and give him a whole lot of money
to be the backup. That's what I'm saying. And so
we can evaluate the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
One of the best teams in football, took him as
your their backup to a two time league MVP.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
They gave four million dollars. I'm saying that we can
evaluate the player, and the player is what he is.
Nobody's gonna make him their start now one of thirty
two teams are gonna consider making him their starter. Certainly
Baltimore made him their backup at four million dollars was
a low for low backup money. Uh again, that my opinion.
(34:34):
Because he asked the question all he would each person
you had a chance to talk, has had a time
MV you had not seeing guys you had a chance
to a chance to talk. I had a chance. My
answer is they're better with Dak Prescott and whoever behind him.
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But what do you to know?
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First office, the Lakers coming to town, and we know
there's a big, strong contingent of Dallas Laker fans. All
show takes a lot of people there and to see
some folks. I even respond somebody on social media before
I came in here. I said, you cheered for Luca.
This is this is math math fans cheering for Luca,
cheering against you own. This is you drinking poison hoping
(38:10):
they die. That makes no sense.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
I can't do it. I mean, I don't. I don't
get it.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
You can be mad at Nico Harrison the gym and
want to fire them all day, but why do you
want to go out there today and cheer against your own.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
And cheer care for the Lakers. You cheer Luka also
cheer for the Lakers. And I can't do it. Yeah,
I can't cut for it. I don't. I don't.
Speaker 6 (38:31):
I don't want that to happen.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Maybe you shouldn't have traded a generational superstar to your
one of your conference rivals.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
No, that's that's a point. Be mad at Luca, be
mad at Nico. Don't cheer for the Lakers.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
You don't have to cheer for the Lakers. You can
just hope for good things for Luca.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
I mean, I I watched this happen in Cleveland when
they when Bill Belichick let go Bernie Cosau. You have
Browns fans actively cheering against their own team.
Speaker 8 (38:56):
Done the man?
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Yeah, subirds. When when when the Cowboys when the Super Bowl?
They had Cleveland folks they you know, they meet. They
sent media to Atlanta to cover the games. Could Berney
get to win a championship?
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Just one like he won one, like riding the beating
and ran the coming down as backa. I just it
just I was just very surprised, Like this is what
you're gonna do.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
I mean, you can hate the move all day long,
but actively get out here and cheer against your own
team drinking poison.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
Because it seems like if you're cheering from the Mavericks,
you're supporting Nico.
Speaker 15 (39:28):
No.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Yeah, well so if you cheer for the Cowboy, you're
supporting Jerry and everything he does.
Speaker 6 (39:34):
And this is a unique circumstance.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
No, but that's really what the fact that's they're.
Speaker 6 (39:38):
Not in general the fans would cheer for the MAVs.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
No, But that's that's the conundrum a lot of cowboy
fans find themselves then, because they're mad at Jerry, the Madi,
his moves, they still spending money at the stadium. Ery
they buy the jersey, they're spending the seats. You're putting
money in Jerry's pocket, even though you're mad at the
product the last thirty years, that's the conundrum they've been in.
Speaker 6 (39:57):
So this is different.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
I know it's different this specific it's the same, but
it's the same family, and you're you're essentially supporting Jerry.
You're made Jerry a billionaire over the last thirty years.
This this this organization has value jump trifle. Okay, in
that time they've won nothing, And so you continue to
(40:19):
go to the stadium. You can continue to support, you
continue to buy jerseys, you can continue to pay for
the popcorn in the in the parking.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
But if they chided Aikman for nothing when he was
in his prime and he came back as a giant,
I could certainly understand fans here cheering for Aikman.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
No I agree. I'm not talking about the cheering part.
I'm talking about when you continue to put money into
the Cowboys, you're tacitly supporting the move Jerry's making. That's
all I'm saying. Okay, am I right or wrong?
Speaker 6 (40:50):
I don't think it's situation you're.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Tacitly supporting them. I'm letting you have your point. I'm
asking do you agree and not agree? Are am I
right or wrong? Jack Taylor?
Speaker 8 (41:00):
I'm ready to get back to the football tub.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
This is that football supporting Jared.
Speaker 7 (41:04):
We took an exit ramp, and we stayed too far
on the exit ramp, Michael pars we're gonna talk about,
said Dick Charles.
Speaker 6 (41:09):
We've went past the stuckies.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
Yes, let's go with the breaking news here most trusted
the Cowboys have signed.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Guard one year deal with guard off of the guard
Sadik Charles, who signed a one year deal. He's only
twenty five to the young guy signed a one year
deal with the Tennessee Titans last March and unexpected to retired.
The first round pick Unespecially retired in training.
Speaker 6 (41:31):
Camp unexpectedly Before Before.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
He retired, he was supposed to be the starting right
guard for the Tennessee. Uh, he's lined up and he
was a fourth round pick of the Washington Commanders of
l s U played four seasons in Washington, uh, starting
thirty thirty five games at left and right guard. So
again the competition for our guy brought Coffer just stayed
(41:59):
in the Okay, hey, look the more and more I
hear the more and more and continueing. There's saw some
Richards tackle.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
I don't see them taking an offensive lineman here up
on the guys with potentially.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Yeah, they load on guys at guard. You know, you
look at the guy they got the Robert Jones for Miami.
Now they got some dig Charles. They're they're trying to
create competition inside of Brockhabma.
Speaker 8 (42:18):
To what keep Cooper beb fat gout of me?
Speaker 3 (42:23):
Okay, Michael Parsons over the weekend, Home Brother decided to
uh tweet about how devastating it was for him as
a Duke basketball fan to watch them lose.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
And this is a fans this is a North Carolina
agenda here. Nowise they noted North Carolina fans. He hates
everything about Duke. He hates Duke fans and so any
misery Duke fans have he delights in.
Speaker 4 (42:52):
I think the Duke basketball program was equally upset when
the Cowboys lost at home to the Packers.
Speaker 6 (42:55):
In the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
I don't think so, yes, but he takes delight in
the is theory of Duke fans.
Speaker 7 (43:01):
I think he was pumping up Calvin steps and into
the U n't see Pittinbroke connection, look a different conversation.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
The Final four was beautiful to me to watch Auburn
and Bruce Pearl lose and Duke see Duke.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Both of them both can't stands one see.
Speaker 8 (43:15):
It's about this truth come out now.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
But this is about Michael. Michael was devastating. Mike's a
Duke fan. And that's why tweet. I know he's always
says been a lifelong Duke fans.
Speaker 4 (43:27):
Why because they were good the whole time he was
growing up.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Because he liked Duke.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
Why are people around the world Cowboys five?
Speaker 2 (43:33):
People like why people like the substics? I don't know
why people like Thekers.
Speaker 6 (43:37):
Their dynasty and people like they like people like that.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
But that's that's how he is. He's a Duke fan.
And what did they tweet? Believe?
Speaker 8 (43:44):
Then you get to answer the question, can.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
You get to the tweet.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
He said, it's gonna take a while to get over
this loss, devastating, one of the most devastating losses he's
ever seen.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
And you said, what you compared that to?
Speaker 4 (43:54):
What?
Speaker 2 (43:55):
What are you saying? Sound like you're ready to take
a gat point No, his responses.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
People started put it, posting the scores from the packers laws.
People went after, I didn't do that. People are mean,
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
I just posted that. I was empathetic.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
I posted the tissue Jeff. They just hands you the
tissue box, okay, because the man was hurting.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Listen, Sometimes sometimes sometimes what you you shouldn't tweet everything
you think because it can take it can take backfire
on you. And when you say that that's one of
the worst losses you've had, and you've had some horrible losses.
Play loss with the Cowboys, it just comes across wrong.
That's part comes across wrong. The Cowboy fans and the
(44:42):
fans who will watch you play it and are disappointed
by the planid production. It comes across wrong. That cannot
be you didn't sound you didn't tweet that type of her.
Speaker 6 (44:53):
Petty everybody in the.
Speaker 4 (44:57):
People.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
And so I'm thinking, when knew he's gonna bring up
Michael tweets. I thought it was gonna pick up the
tweet today when he talked about going ballheaded for twenty
twenty five and they started posting the pictures of the
ball headed the.
Speaker 6 (45:08):
Ball bro he looks like this guy.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
It looked like that guy right there. Clean, mister Clean,
are you master that clean? I'm not joining him.
Speaker 6 (45:16):
If you twa gets the guest on the pod, he
might do it.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
He should do you should? You should?
Speaker 8 (45:24):
You know he got hold of I'm gonna send no
Texas stadium over there.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
I think they both could do it together, go on
the podcast and both take it off, just go home together.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
The real story with Mica is what when he and
his agent gonna sit down with Jerry Jones to get
this deal done? Okay, As we reported last week, Jerry
and Michael have a handshake deal on a record breaking
contract that's the richest non quarterback contract in football.
Speaker 8 (45:52):
Can be handshake deal of your agent.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
Ain't yeah because it's a handshape. But you those two
and Jerry said, I'm paying riding checking Michael playing football.
Don't need the agent well to get the deal done,
to get it across the gold line. They need to
talk to dates and Jerry does not do any business
deal not consulting counsel. Micah needs to consult counsel. And
I don't think there's a situation where a lot of
(46:15):
people like Jerry is sometimes they talk to the player
to do it in run and get a team from
the deal. From my understanding talking to people that are
familiar with the contract and what they talked about, it
is not a Tyler Tyren Smith deal. Where's low budget,
low ball, it's not even market.
Speaker 4 (46:33):
You think that shake deal is going to stand up
when if TJ. Watt signs the deal that makes him
the highest pained non quarterback in football.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
I mean that you know, depends on when they signed,
you know, and obviously that's why you go get your agent.
But if they do it now, and I don't think
from my understand my understanding is they're not waiting on TJ.
Whtt They they've seen the numbers.
Speaker 4 (46:53):
Well, what Jerry's already said, he wants to see certain
things for common Micah. First, he wants to see that
he's not just posturing with being a leader. He wants
it's not just part of his negotiating taxi.
Speaker 6 (47:05):
Jarry wants to see him do it.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Jerry's the one who shook hands with Michael on the terms.
I'm just saying he's the one of shook came with
Mike on the term.
Speaker 6 (47:12):
I'm just looking for the deal.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
The deal is because they have not talked to the agent.
The agent will be Michaeh asked them to call his agent.
They have not done well. He asked it before that.
My point is Jerry is posturing with I need to
see much something more. No, he's already decided I want
to pay him this type of money. Okay, he's already
decided he's gonna have to pay him this those he
(47:36):
has decided, Uh is come to terms with however you
want to look at it. He's gonna pay a certain
amount for Michael Parsons and they all want him here
for OTAs and minie camp and all that. I think
it's gonna get done before training camp. I don't know
when it's gonna get done. Knowing Jerry, Hey, he might
try to upstate the draft to get it done. Doing draft,
(47:57):
we can be on point. What what I think?
Speaker 8 (48:01):
I think they said you can't do that.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
You can't do business doing that they do business all
the time. They make trains and do a lot of
stuff doing drive weekend.
Speaker 8 (48:07):
Not that Jerry would care about that because James's man.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
You're going swim partying shot here party thought it at
all shot as we leave the podcast here, Yeah.
Speaker 8 (48:15):
Really come home, Michael. It's all good baby, you too, though.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
Jock and I had dinner at win some Prime last
night and night a little new steak hous little restaurant
in downtown Dallas in Trinity Groves Areas. It's good times.
Speaker 6 (48:28):
Okay, it was free there we go, free drinks. That's
all I wanted to hear.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
It was like the Grand Open. You knew this.
Speaker 6 (48:35):
What about us? Was last minute, last minute.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
It was last minute last night.
Speaker 6 (48:44):
Yeah, that was free.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
And final thought.
Speaker 6 (48:51):
I'm not ever eating with these two again.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
Well, well, well I see you Friday night. What I'll
see you Friday night?
Speaker 6 (48:57):
What's Friday night?
Speaker 2 (48:58):
The Children's Cancer Fun game? Though?
Speaker 6 (49:00):
That in Troy, Oh, I don't generally go to those things.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
There you go, speet writer thing dead. Gotta gotta go
to those things.
Speaker 6 (49:08):
I heard somebody going to be going two weeks.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
Somebody had to beat right, huh, Hey, man, I missed
you guys. I missed you, guys. I gave you all
some information to talk about last week, but I missed
you guys, and I'm glad I'm back meeting mass Uh.
I enjoyed this time.
Speaker 3 (49:23):
Clarence Hill at Wardershack, Taylor and new Scrutch for Chris Bean,
Jazz Josh, everybody your party right here.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
Dallas Cowboys dot Com, thank you. We'll talk to you
next week.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and
the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
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