October 2, 2025 • 47 mins
Bill’s late arrival reminds of where head coach Brian Schottenheimer learned much of his football, bringing his dad’s book “Marty Ball,” maybe one of the reasons the Cowboys have put an emphasis on running the football. Also, a comprehensive look on the number of injuries besetting the team and working Blue.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
This is Mick shot, streaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com
and the official Dallas Cowboys apt now Here are Bill Jones,
Hecma Harrison, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Good afternoon, Cowboy Nation, and welcome to the taj Mahala
of football. We are here in the SWBC Mortgage Studios,
home of your Dallas Cowboys here in Frisco. I'm heck Maharrison.
The truth is in the booth, and obviously the star
of the show, Mickey Spagnola is here. Mickey, it's it's Thursday.
I'm gonna get you used to answering this question on Thursdays.
(00:54):
All right, Mickey, how are you doing today?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Two out of four?
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Eight bad?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Here? Two out of four bad? But you got to
answer my question. Yes, how are you doing today? I'm
doing better, doing better? Yes, you know, the people got
a lot of fans, a lot of followers that people.
A lot of people want to know what's going on
with Mickey spagnol And you have been wearing that brace
all week long. I don't know what's wrong with you,
so with some cause your hand is swollen. I've been
(01:18):
looking at your fat fingers.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
You're tired of seeing that.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I mean, I just want to know.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I need this cover to do the whole.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
What did you, mick?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
What did you do to yourself?
Speaker 6 (01:26):
Well, initially thought I fractured a bone in my hand, okay,
And the hand specialist read the X ray and said, no,
you didn't do that. You got some degenerative stuff going
on in your hand that you irritated, okay, and it
caused my hand to swell up and sore.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
And so the story goes, you were power lifting.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
That's right that What did you do? I started bowling left.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yes, something happened. What were you doing to do?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
It's a dumb story.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
You got ain't got number of time.
Speaker 6 (02:00):
I was trying to carry something with my left hand
and it irritated it.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
That's all that happened.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
Well, it was a one of the rolling garbage cans.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, the kind of just pushed down and pull.
Speaker 6 (02:13):
Out and bend it. And when I went to bend
it down, it didn't bend because it was really heavy and.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
My hand.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Yes, you say, it's not a good I like the left.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Handed Mickey, I would have made up something. That's what happened.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I've been trying.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
That's what swow you up like that?
Speaker 6 (02:33):
Yeah, and a little old age probably.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
To go with the degenerative stuff. Yeah. Well, look I
know in that, I.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
Know I'm no longer going to be able to do
a two handed backhand.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Okay, dude, you have swollen up. I don't know what
you did. It's pretty bad.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
It's down, now, is it?
Speaker 6 (02:49):
Oh you should have seen it on the weekend.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
How now? Now? How is that? I'm a I'm a
right hand. You right handed? Uh huh? Okay, so you're
you're you're good, You're still functioning.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
Here's what you find out. Okay, there's a hell of
a lot of things you'd need two hands to do, yes, sir,
and you don't realize it until you only have one.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Right Yeah, so you're you're limited.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
Oh yeah, or slower, let's put it that way. So
it takes more time. Okay, So typing very difficult. Sunday night,
after the game, I was doing a lot of picking
and pecking and handed or just so with my right
hand and you know, doing what the left hand was
supposed to do. It took a while I take a
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long time to write. Oh man, this took even longer.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
So now you just picking away yet, Well.
Speaker 6 (03:38):
These fingers are working better. So the only thing that
doesn't work is the thumb key to hit the space part.
I thought of dictating, right, But if you do that
like on a program.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yes, of course.
Speaker 6 (03:50):
So back in the day when we used to dictate
on deadline, right, you didn't have time to get to
the office. You'd you know, you know, paragraph, read the
sentence period new graph right. Well, if you do that.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
And somebody's listening to it, it's gonna put.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
P E R, I O D, of course, and then
you've got to go through the whole thing to correct it.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
So I just picked and pecked.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Dude. There's so much stuff out here now that could
dictate things, but.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
You can't do that part of it, right, No, not
going to put the paragraph in. No, it's not going
to put the period or the quotation mark in.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Dude. There's something out there.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
It's gonna read what you said.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Not completely. Now, I'm telling you. Technology has advanced to
a point now, Mickey, where you being.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
All right, well, somebody send me that app Okay, I think.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
I got a few suggestions. I'm gonna get him going
for you now in your notebook, then we're gonna start
with that. Trayvon Diggs. Trayvon Diggs has asked the question
to his defensive coordinator if he could play more zone
and your thoughts on that? As reports came out that
that was a question that Trayvon Diggs is like, look,
(05:00):
you know enough of his zone stuff, can you put
me in man? Your thoughts on that in the notes
you took.
Speaker 6 (05:05):
Well, let's go back to the Bears game third and eight.
He went up to the line of scrimmage to play
man and he fell down. Remember that play? Okay, So,
as Everson has preached to us on and on, it's
harder to play man than it is zone.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
And so.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
You know, it's not just all about him. It's about
getting everybody else ready to go. And you know a
lot of you know, he hasn't played any football. No
one wants a factor that in. Everybody say, well, he's
got a knee, Okay, fine, he spent time last week
on the stationary bike there in practice he was limited, right,
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so they didn't start him. And you know it's getting
interpreted as he got benched. I looked at it is
they were trying to regulate his snaps. And the third,
the third possession, he went out there at cornerback. The
first two they had digs in Elam and then Ready
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Steward when they went to Nickel, and then they finally
switched it up and they actually when he went in,
they played Bland into Nickel a couple snaps, but then
they ended up going back to Ready. So I just
think he's got to play better and be able to
play more than I don't know what he had twenty
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twenty five thirty snaps. So, and here's the other thing
on all these other stats that come out about well
his percentage of coverage or whatever. That yardage thing was, Okay,
if you're playing zone, are you responsible for who you're
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responsible for?
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Who makes that decision?
Speaker 6 (07:03):
Right right? Because you're probably not covering the guy you
lined up across from ten yards deep or five yards
off the scrimmage. If that guy goes inside, you're not
going inside with him. No, you get charged for those yardage.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Now, I mean, I guess the bigger question when you
say playing time, Trayvon Diggs hadn't missed any game game
time this season, correct.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
Well, he's he's played limited on a line of course,
coming back, coming back from the knee raff.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
All of those expectations exactly is Mickey, is what you're
talking about more related to the off season than it
is what you're talking about what's happening right now.
Speaker 6 (07:39):
Because he hadn't played, so he limited himself physically getting
ready to play football, Okay, but not the physical part,
the ability to get back and play.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
How long do you think he's gonna wear that? How
long this as far as this season, as this season
goes along, Yeah, how long do you think?
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I think it's time.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
It's time.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
It's time.
Speaker 6 (07:59):
Okay, you start playing like Trayvon Diggs and and and
your heart into it. Also now it sounds good. Now
you've got to perform. And when Bland got back, you
know the same thing with him. It's like he missed
what two games? This was the first first game he played, right,
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are you going to sit there and analyze, you know,
coming back from injury, Oh he did this or he
didn't do this? Right, It takes a while to get
back to play football, and that's why they kind of
regulate their snaps to begin with.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
So now I think it's.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
Getting closer to having your maybe top three guys out
there if Elam's considered one of the top three, right,
and then Reddy Stewart. Yes, so those are your four
guys you're playing. So I think you got a mix
and match. But obviously the assignments have to be better.
You're gonna see Wan Yer Thomas starting at safety for
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hooker it sounds like he's probably out a couple of weeks.
And and then the linebackers have to play better too
if you're going to play zone, so the whole zone
is not always on the corners.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
It's it's it's it's everybody. It's that back, right, and
they have to communicate better, and that's been one of
the main things that you've heard coach.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I think that's improved. But I think that.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
No, just knowing what you got to do. I mean,
you know what you got to do. Now you've got
to do it right to carry out your assignment. So
you know, Abrafers talked about it.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
He was doing his deal.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
Just before I are still doing it. Probably when I
came down and he you know, he basically said, yeah,
Diggs came to me. He said, I value his pinion.
His opinion, but we've got to grow as a group,
not just guys out here. Yeah right, okay, you go
play man and everybody else will plays zone.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Hey, Deon Sanders ask him about that.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
Right, So, so I think there's a lot more to it,
but I think it's just getting back to playing football,
and he just hasn't done that much over the last
well think about it. I don't remember how many games
he missed the year before with the ACL.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
It happened late, so I believe it may have been
five or six games.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
Okay, And then last year it was it was the
knee again, the other knee.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Almost the entire season felt like.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
Yeah, and he tried to play through it and then
sat out, then came back, and then they put him
on ir uh and then he had surgery and it
was a serious surgery too. It was complicated. Yes, so uh, yeah,
they just got to get him back to playing his
brand of football, regardless if they're in man or in there,
if they're in zones.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
I agree with you, Mickey, Mickey. I think that a
part of his game is confidence, and he can't be
confident the way that he's been playing. You talk about
the third and eight play against the Chicago Bears where
he tries to get hands on, he missed, he stumbles,
and the guy burns him for a touchdown. And that
isn't something that there isn't something that we've been seeing
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from Trayvon Diggs since he had the knee injury. But
this weekend, this Sunday, he has Garrett Wilson, a wide
receiver that is really all the Jets have, and they're
gonna try and hit him deep and you're gonna need
Trayvon Diggs to come into this game to at least
be a percentage of that confidence that you're used to seeing.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
You may see Bland on him instead of Trayvon.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Really well.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Bland when he's healthy.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
Right at this point, he's your number one corner and
here comes our number one corner.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Yes, so it could be. It may not be. You know,
you may be playing sides.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
They may choose who he's up against. You know, I
think it's I think it's you can flip and say, okay,
when he's on that side, Dran Bland's over there or
Digs is.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Over there, And I'm just going back to what you're
saying these guys have in game time and the same
goes with you know, getting on the field and playing
the same thing I believe applies with Deron Bland him
coming back from injury also, and not to mention, he
was on the pitch count last week also, so that's
not mentioned enough when people talk about Trayvon.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
Yeah, and a lot of and we go back to it.
You can play man, you can play zone, but who's
playing it? You got a bunch of backups out there,
you know, And I thought Eberflus pointed it out. He
you know, somebody asked them scheme versus personnel, and he goes, well,
from an injury standpoint, we need some consistency because we
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haven't had the same guys available out there the entire time.
Now they're getting closer to it, right Kayln Carson. They
started his twenty one day window coming off of IR
to see when he's ready. Now again, Uh, he's still
on non football. Wow, They're going to be careful with him.
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He hadn't played any football in a year, which he
reminded me of these.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Can I introduce Can I introduce you? Super Bowl champion
Everson Wallas is in the building walking in fashionably late
stop Man.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Which which away by Way, one of.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
The top fifty two guys in the Seniors Committee evaluation
for the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Right now, I think I heard I finally saw something.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
You saw it, my family, you're in there.
Speaker 7 (13:37):
I think somebody had put he made it to the
Hall of Fame. And then try everybody slow it down.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
You are you?
Speaker 6 (13:43):
You along with Don Meredith, Harvey Martin, too Tall Jones
and Leroy.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Jordan's man, five of you.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
That's crazy.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
So you're battlingones, You're battling each other maybe to get
a caliber.
Speaker 7 (13:56):
Martin man about time, right, I mean, that's a guy.
And I talked to media people all the time about
Harvey Martin. You know, I'm from Dallas, he's from Old
Cliff and man, you know, just watching him play before
I even became a teammate, the way he lit things
up for Coe MVP with Randy White in the Super Bowl.
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He had his issues before he passed on, before he retired,
after he retired, but man, you look at a guy
who brought that much to the Cowboys. And I asked
media guys and they go, oh, no, no, no, no no,
And I'm thinking, why the hell not? You know, don't
just blow off a guy who had over I guess
they started chopping off his sacks.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
I don't know how many he has.
Speaker 7 (14:38):
It gotta be over one hundred and fifteen sacks in
the NFL, and you got guys in there were less
than a hundred. Yeah, and he's not even considered. And
I'm sorry when you start just picking and choosing and saying, oh,
this guy has no chance.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
Why not?
Speaker 7 (14:54):
Why would he not have a chance. I think he's
been the three Super Bowls and he won at least
one satha Cliff's on, and I throw cliffs on. Man,
he was here before all of us was here.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
And I'm hoping ran all of and I'm hoping that
Leroy Jordan didn't need to pass away for everybody to
remember his name year, how good he was.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
That's right. It goes so deflect you just heard. I mean,
I know you went to Harvard, Martin and everybody else, man,
but how does it as as a guy that played
this game and didn't accomplish what you accomplished. I mean,
it's hard to ask you this question because I know
how much football period means to you. But to be
considered amongst the greatest.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
I've been considered so many times that it doesn't it
just falls on deaf ears now because of just the consideration.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
It was exciting.
Speaker 7 (15:42):
Yeah, back, you know, twenty years ago, I was only
up for modern Day once, you know, and because I
just didn't get the support that most players get from
their teams.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
And that's just facts.
Speaker 7 (15:54):
And so when you start talking about hey, man, don't
you excited, Well, man, I was excited twenty years ago, night,
ten years ago, eighteen years ago, fifteen years ago, ten
years ago. You know, I've been through this already. Love
the appreciation, there's no doubt about it. But from what
I might the history shows that it just doesn't go anywhere.
Speaker 6 (16:13):
Yeah, it joining so many times you can have your
heart yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Well look at it this way. You went from a
group of one hundred.
Speaker 6 (16:20):
And sixty two fifty two right right, go now, now
they've got to cut to twenty five, then nine, then three.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
I gotta tell you the funny story.
Speaker 7 (16:29):
When I was up modern Day and you know, we're
in there, you know, we got tequila flowing in the
in the room with my family, you know, Minnesota.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
We're having a good time. And they said, well, when you're.
Speaker 7 (16:40):
In there, you know, make sure, you know, keep your
door closed if we're gonna come knocking. And if we
you know, it said if we come, if we knock.
I think they said something like, if we call you,
then you didn't make it. If we knock, you made it. Well,
as soon as they gave me the instructions on how
this goes, I got a phone call like five seconds
later saying you.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Didn't make it.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
No, I can we see you down in the lobby,
you know, because they're gonna go to the NFL.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Honors deal right right right? Yeah, man.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
I stayed up there and had me a couple of shots. Man,
where am I going? Not putting me in because I'm late,
you know. So then when I finally got on there,
oh man, we thought you made it. Man, you should
have made them like, man, we all should make it.
Everybody on the bus should make it, right, So you
know that was I thought that was so funny, Like, okay, yeah,
here these guys. Oh wait a minute, what's this called?
(17:32):
Hey Everson? Just bring your stuff down?
Speaker 6 (17:34):
Okay, thanks, Well, at least you're in the one section
at the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
What's that the Black College?
Speaker 7 (17:40):
Yes, no, HP, I have I'm on every Hall of
Fame but this one.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
Right, and and by the way, I don't think I
remember to send it to you. But on our massive
road trip this summer, we stopped uh in at the
Hall of Fame. Yeah, and I took your pictures on
the wall. Yeah, took your picture Nate's picture, right, And
I was supposed to send it to your.
Speaker 7 (18:06):
We're all but you're still up there. Yeah, we're over Yeah.
Bill Belichick's game plan against Buffalo. You know I'm in
there for the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
So I'm in there, right, I'm a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
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Speaker 2 (21:08):
Well back here for the second segment of mixed shots
and leash. Make sure you have that leash. At least
that's right man. Talk about the guy you need not
to take the leash off of and you had the
leash off of him last week. That's George Pickens.
Speaker 7 (21:26):
I love the way he played, yeah, talking about doing
the break. How poised he seems to be at this point.
Everything seems pretty effortless. He hadn't really had to show
his fifty to fifty ball skills, you know, from a
steady standpoint, And I like how he's just really picking
his spots. If you don't press him, then he's gonna
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he's gonna tear you up. You got to get in
his face. You got to do things to make him
think about something else. But right now he and Dad
are almost connected as one. That's that's what you want
from your new number one wide receiver.
Speaker 6 (22:03):
Off season work, right he was how you go playing football,
playing for it's going to emphasize it.
Speaker 7 (22:12):
Ain't too much, man, And you know that's kind of
what we're talking about with Diggs. You know, I don't
know what the deal was on his workouts and things
that nature, but I want to be around my boys.
I want to practice with him. I want to be
where it's familiar, you know, and and not it's not
for them to see, it's it's for It's for me.
(22:35):
You know, it's for me as a player.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
I want to.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
I want to.
Speaker 7 (22:37):
I just want them to know that I have their back.
And just because he's not there does not mean that
he does not have their back.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
But it just when you.
Speaker 7 (22:45):
When you are a team, inclusion is part of it.
And I was hoping. I was wishing he could have
included himself on this off season workout.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
You know when you were talking about what Pickens was doing.
I remember in training camp we see him make these
catches right, and the ball didn't have to be on
the numbers right. He can catch it here a pie
and low whatever. And you saw him catch that low one.
And Schottenheimer when he asked him about it, he goes
(23:16):
and I believe it was shot and Hiram it could
have been Dak, but I thought it was Shotenheimer he said,
if they're in man on him, he's open.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
He's open right now.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Yeah, when you read the defense right, if they want
to go man, he's open.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
And that is not just any smooth he's now. You
know how a lot of guys when they run hard,
they got.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
All this moved action.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
Everything's going flopping around, and he's just smooth.
Speaker 7 (23:42):
Down those are the hardest ones to cover because there's
no tell. When the guy has a lot of action,
Eventually with that action he's going to have.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
To slow it down and make a move.
Speaker 7 (23:55):
So it's predictable when you have a guy Steve larger. Uh,
guys like that where the gate you're talking about, Henry Ella,
the gate is the same, Every route looks the same,
the pace is the same. Then you can't anticipate, you
can't look for a tail. And the next thing you know,
he's got that plant, that plant foot in the ground
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and he goes one way or another. You know what
I'm talking about with your son being a wide receiver. Yes,
these are the kind of things that are the nuances
of being a wide receiver. Drew Pearson, same guy, he
was pigeontoed right. So you're watching him and you're looking
at those legs, you look at this hyps and and
next thing you know, he's gone. Next thing you know,
he's gone, next thing you know, he's value. And those
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are the kind of things that it just drives a
dB crazy because there is no tail on the route.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Let me give you got some information here on this
Jets matchup. The last time George Pickens faced the New
York Jets. Was last season Russell Wilson sixteen for twenty nine,
two touchdowns. Remember RUSS two sixty four. George Pickens went
five catches for one hundred and eleven yard and a touchdown.
So on Sauce, they didn't travel, So it was either side.
(25:05):
Even though they had some highlight showing them against Sauce,
you know they matched up well, but everybody he burned
him down didn't matter. Five four to eleven and a
touchdown shows you how explosive he was in that game.
In the deep ball was what really killed the Jets
that day versus the Pittsburgh Steels thirty seven to fifteen
and to win. Pittsburgh steel Is winning that game and
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the Jets this season with Aaron Glenn, it's they're completely
different makeover as far as the team is concerned, as
far as the philosophy that he's started to bring. They
have a new offensive coordinator, a young coordinator that's come
in and he's trying to keep guys like justin fields
on time. Defensively, they have Steve Wilkes is their defensive coordinator.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Anything different there, literally.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
They're playing some mixing up just like Ebra Flu's man
with zone. But when you have a big body in
the middle like Quinn Williams and a defense like that,
they depend a lot on that line, on that defensive
line to stop them, to stop they just hadn't been
able to do it, which is surprising for a Steve
Wilks defense.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
Here's here's what I like. Uh Pickens AFC. So this
is his wheelhouse.
Speaker 7 (26:17):
He plays against these guys, all owe them well, so
you know it's gonna be some action going on out there.
It's gonna be some scores that need to be settled.
Sauce might not, might be feeling something kind of way
about how Pickens got them last time. That's gonna be
a nice matchup, not just against Sauce but that entire
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Jet secondary because.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
They remember me, Dickens. You remember me? You know here
I am, I'm back.
Speaker 7 (26:44):
I can't wait for that that emotion to come out
in this game.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
If they remember them, then they're gonna put two guys
and that's fine.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
And that's fine.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
Because it looks like Turpin might not make it back
for this game.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
He thought practice he's.
Speaker 6 (27:01):
Got a foot injury and uh he couldn't be out,
So what are you looking at Pickens Tolbert.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Now that's a big disappointment, and there is a lot
of disappointment with that. That injury report that came out yesterday.
There were a ton of names. Tyler Smith was on there.
There's a lot of different names, but Pickens, excuse me,
Cavant Turpin being one of those names that was on.
It really does and it affects you see how he
affected that Green Bay game with that big run, and
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we've got and you say, but there was a holding.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
Call, so they had seven guys that did not practice
booker ceedee lamb. We knew that, right, We sort of
knew Miles Sanders was going to be out.
Speaker 7 (27:47):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
But then when you see guiding, it's still in concussion protocol.
Now that's three starters on the offensive line, and then
all of a sudden, Tyler Smith shows up on it
with a knee and then turping, and you're starting going
getting a lot of thin on offense. It is, and
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we rely on the offense to keep us in the game.
So the guiding thing, you know, if he can't go,
that's three fifths of your offensive line.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
I feel so much better about Nate Thomas than i'd be.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
But I do, yeah, yeah, because it was it was
intentional that he got that at least one series maybe
two at right tackle for Steve because they were they
were preparing him, and then he had to go to
the left side in overtime. And I thought he played well.
He played well during during training.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Can no, you talked well about him doing training.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
I just liked for a guy that hadn't played football
since twenty twenty three because he spent all last year
on injured reserve, he does not look like that no
big man strong, so lacks experience. Obviously you can get
taken advantage of. But when I saw that that deal,
and it's like.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
That's a kudos to Will McClay and his staff of
making that decision between Nate Thomas and the other left
tackle that they had they traded away late. What was
his name? Uh, left tackle? He was Richard? Yes, yes, yes,
my man. Yeah, awesome, yes him awesome forgot about him
that fast. Ah, yeah, but I remember that, Dame. But
everybody was kind of wondering how.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
It was somewhat of a competition.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Absolutely, because you thought that Austin Richards had the leg
up on him, and then they and Nate Thomas steps
in and he does a good job. And that's the
thing in this. I don't know how it's going to
work out on game day, but hearing that Tyler Smith
may be ready to go even with the with the
ankle and maybe guiding. But again, the confidence level with
Nate Thomas is there. I tell you where else I'm
confident is in that center and right guard. Not a
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lot of people talked about the job the TJ Bass
and you're.
Speaker 11 (29:57):
Come on, now, you know what the highlighted they did
play between the two of them right there. Yeah, and
we probably just take this for granted, but there was
a reason when Schottenheim put his staff together that Clayton Adams,
an offensive line coach, became the coordinator, and then they
(30:19):
brought in yeah yeah, and then they brought in a
offensive coordinator from Kansas State who was an offensive line
coach to be the offensive line coach.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
We covered that right here, right Remember.
Speaker 6 (30:33):
We talked to it, and they doubled down on the coaches
on the offensive line and maybe they have done something.
You know, coaches really never get credit for doing good.
It's always like, well, they what are they doing?
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Well?
Speaker 6 (30:48):
They had these offensive linemen ready to go and talents.
Speaker 7 (30:53):
They had the coaches, like you said, they had the
coaches ready, right, they had the one the ones in
placed that they felt comfortable with. Who's resume is Stella
and y'all you guys called it. You and Bill talked
about this. This was early in mixed shots about how
we're going to be running this ball and they have
we're gonna be running this You know.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
They're not Saquon Barkley running it, but they four games
in a row with.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
More than right now.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Well, yeah, he's drugging que right now.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Well that's because everybody's no, you're not doing this anymore.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
No, but that is safe to say. Isn't that something
I bet you're coming into the season. You wouldn't have
thought that when you're talking about running games. But the
Cowboys all right now running game. Whether the Philadelphia Eagles come.
Speaker 7 (31:35):
Concerted effort as we talked about, to get the personnel
in there, get the coaches first, get that culture that
we talked about, starting with that running culture again.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
And it's working. That's something you know, sometimes it's here
a miss. This time it worked.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
And he's done that.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
Schottenheimer wherever he's been an offensive coordinator, there's been a
priority on.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Running the football.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
You love it when the playing comes together, and it did.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
That's right, you know.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
And if you look at when they opened the game,
I know they went three and out, but it was
three run plays right, even on third and four in
the second series, they ran the ball one two.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Three times.
Speaker 7 (32:25):
I think, yeah, when you look at Dak's play, I mean,
we can talk about how well he's doing this.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
Oh he looks different. Well, that running game helps a lot.
Speaker 7 (32:33):
It's it doesn't seem like it at the time because
he's been throwing so many passes. He got the attempts,
he's got the yards and all that. I think that's
because the timing is good. The play calls are timely
to where we got him on the ropes with Javonte
and here all of a sudden, Now you got worried
about pickings. Now you got worried about ceedee lamb. That's
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how you get your forty points a game.
Speaker 6 (32:57):
Well, now the Jets might have to worry about Cowboy.
You're gonna go blue right.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Well, hey, we're gonna stick a pin in it right
there and take our last break and come back with
the final segment segment talking about Blue and what he
can do this Sunday against what Blue do for you?
All Right, I see you see you see you got
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Speaker 2 (35:56):
Look who else decides to show up?
Speaker 5 (35:57):
And that's up the whole.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
He just he pours into the studio. That's what. That's
how bial walks. Have you watched it? Like he pours.
He don't walk.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
He pours, and he brings reading this life syrup.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
He just kind of right into it. So he poured
his way into the studio.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Left my stuff in the TV studio.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
Well what is that?
Speaker 2 (36:20):
What do you got?
Speaker 4 (36:23):
Marty Ball? Marty Ball? Oh, nice Marty Ball. It's the
life and Triumphs of Marty Shot.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
You get that from the library.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
It looks like it does.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
It's due back Friday.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Now.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
It says thrift Books.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Bought it online.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Let it go as a matter of fact.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
And I'll tell you what. Let me recommend this book
to any and all of you out there with the
I read it. I read the chapter one last night.
I had read it in the off season, and I
asked Brian Shot and ib just now, what was your
favorite moment in New York when he was the offensive
coordinator of the Jets. He immediately said San Diego game,
(37:07):
And it was in two thousand and nine AFC Divisional
playoff game. Marty Schottenheimer, his dad, had been fired by
the Chargers after a fourteen and two season two years
earlier in two thousand and seven. And so the Jets
are playing the Chargers in the divisional playoff game and
it comes down to a fourth and one play at
(37:29):
the twenty nine yard line. Jets have a seventeen to
fourteen lead, and Brian Schottenheimer calls forty blast, which was
right over the right guard, which is exactly Marty didn't
call it. That didn't have that same name for the play.
I think it was power.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
In fact, he wanted on his tombstone to say Marty
Schottenheimer Power.
Speaker 6 (37:51):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
So Marty is coaching the East West Shrine game in Orlando, Florida.
He can't be at the game. He's watching on television
in a bar in Orlando. Brian's wife and mom are
at the game at Qualcomm Stadium, and it comes down
to that they got to get one yard to beat
the team. That fired Marty Schottenheimer his dad, and he
calls forty blasts and Thomas Jones gets two yards.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
They win the game and go the Thomas Jones.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
Wow, I mean it. And it is really cool the
way this author, Jeffrey Flanagan, the way he set it up.
That that's all chapter one in this book.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
That's my first chapter.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
That's the first chapter.
Speaker 6 (38:30):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
And but he painted the picture of where everybody was
watching the game and what it meant and yeah, exactly.
And Brian's sister Kristen, who apparently knows more football than
anybody in the family. She's back home and wherever she live,
in North Carolina or someplace and watching it. And it's
really cool.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
So so Bill, I'm peddling a book.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Let me let me catch you up. So basically, we've
talked about Aaron Glenn, his coaching staff personnel, got to Wilson,
talked about Sauce Gardner. We talked about what George Pickens
has already done versus the Jets. Five catches, one hundred
eleven yards last season and a touchdown, so big plays
are open. And then and then just as you were
(39:14):
coming into the studio, we were about to get into
a picture blue you're looking for then you finally got one.
You finally got a picture, and we got to blue.
And now we're talking about Blue. So all right, we
left you blue do for you.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Was brown?
Speaker 2 (39:34):
We switched, We switched.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
It's not a sideline promotion.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
So okay, Mickey wasn't here when we were talking about Blue.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Yes, no, he wasn't, so he poured into the conversation.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
You're excited about Blue.
Speaker 6 (39:48):
Well, when I see that, Miles Sanders probably not gonna hie, Cavante, Turbin,
probably not gonna play.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
Where are you going to get your speed from?
Speaker 4 (39:58):
Gotta go Blue?
Speaker 6 (40:00):
And so they're gonna probably get him going, and maybe
even the return kickoffs.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Yeah, I would expect for the road to increase for
a lot of guys.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Definitely kickoffs, right, yeah, don't you think.
Speaker 6 (40:15):
Matter of fact, the special teams coach is probably talking
right now, all.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
Right, and we he is you hear your pick to
click tease for tomorrow?
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Maybe?
Speaker 5 (40:26):
Yeah, no, exactly what I'm.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Not speaking of.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
Remember I was the one that I said, temper your enthusiast.
That was what I said yesterday.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Going through your iPad, find another fourth rounders. Yeah, compare
the college careers Texas hate runs deep. This man is
not gonna stop Bucky Urbans Robins Jon I'd.
Speaker 7 (40:56):
Say, of course, yeah, it go, but I felt that
that's funny.
Speaker 6 (41:04):
My my pick to click is going to be the
NFC Special Teams Player of the Month that we named
two weeks ago.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
Oh h is that official? Now?
Speaker 6 (41:17):
When I was on the radio, they told me.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
Okay, you know who's kicking for the Jets. Former cow
we Nick Folk. Nick Folk, forty one year old Nick Folk.
And by the way, he's kicking very well.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Yes, you know.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
Aubrey is nine for nine on field goals this season,
four for four beyond fifty well. Nick Folk is h
seven for seven on field goals and four for four
beyond fifty yards at age forty one, and over the
last three years beyond fifty yards, he's the best in
the league as far as his percentage fifteen for sixteen
beyond fifty yards the last three years he grew up.
Speaker 5 (41:54):
You know, you remember you kicked the ball?
Speaker 4 (41:57):
Remember that Buffalo game.
Speaker 7 (41:58):
Yeah, I mean that was a moment to where he
was like a second baseman. They couldn't throw the first base.
He was like now blocked there you go. Yeah, but
he would kick it and it would just take off.
Remember he was doing this.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
And I mean he was good enough to win the job,
but this.
Speaker 5 (42:15):
Is before he got that job.
Speaker 7 (42:17):
He would in warm upside we call it was a
Monday night game and they were looking at him kicked
before the game and his kicks would all slice.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
Well, that one Monday night game I'm talking about at
Buffalo where Romo threw how many picks in the first half?
Five picks in the first half and the Cowboys came
back and won that game on a fifty something yard
field goal by Nick Folk after getting the ball back
with like nine seconds left. It was the craziest comeback ever.
Speaker 6 (42:45):
Remember it was that down and out to Witt and
I think it was that game to stop the clock
in field goal range.
Speaker 7 (42:52):
I heard something on the way here. The kicker for
uh We just played the kicker Forcker Packers. He had
made like he had the longest streak of consecutive pats.
Speaker 5 (43:07):
The one that got three and it was the longest.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
Took care of that.
Speaker 5 (43:12):
Jan Ye took care of that.
Speaker 7 (43:13):
It was the longest streak of successful pats at that moment.
Speaker 5 (43:18):
And wan Ye took care of.
Speaker 6 (43:20):
We also talked about Everson being elevated from one hundred
and sixty two senior candidates for the Hall of Fame
to fifty two.
Speaker 7 (43:27):
All right, yeah, ask him about it, because I mean,
how many times have we been here?
Speaker 5 (43:34):
Y'all have been here with me like four times? Come on, man,
you know so he said, fifty.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
Two, Don Meredith, Harvey, Martin Lee.
Speaker 4 (43:45):
What's the next stage? Twenty five? Get down to twenty
five and then nine, got three?
Speaker 3 (43:52):
He got a waste.
Speaker 7 (43:53):
Yes, he asked me, why I don't get excited I've done.
I will never ask him for that. Gave me a
chance to vent. He asked the question, do me a softball?
I vented.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
We are good. So that's been a good show.
Speaker 4 (44:10):
I can tell you to go back and listen to.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
It, and we're glad.
Speaker 6 (44:15):
Uh in Southlake, you're paying your taxes. So the head
football coach could make six figures as the head coach, and.
Speaker 4 (44:21):
Most of the coaches make six figures and athletic directly,
do they really?
Speaker 3 (44:26):
Yeah, a whole bunch of it. There's a great coach at.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Lincoln High School is not making six figures anyway. He
ready to take us about it.
Speaker 6 (44:37):
Because I think he was in the story. By the way,
they did a deal in the Morning News. They did
a survey of the North Texas football coach look at
that and how many of them were making six fingers
good stuff, including either the salary and stipends or whatever else.
Speaker 5 (44:56):
Well, man, when you.
Speaker 7 (44:56):
Look at Texas high school football, man, I mean this,
it's we.
Speaker 5 (45:01):
Dominate all over the dog on country.
Speaker 7 (45:03):
So you better if you're gonna pay some coaches six figures,
it should be in this area.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
Of all your teachers and coaches in high school, who
had the most impact on you?
Speaker 7 (45:13):
Uh, Coach Allen Holiday, there you go, yeah, Coach Allen
he was. He was the one that gave me a
chance to play my senior year. I had my bet
all year and he said, okay, how about you.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Reginald Samples, there you go. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (45:25):
And now at Duncanville, Steve Miller. These are all coaches.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
He's a coach.
Speaker 4 (45:30):
He had a Steve Miller band.
Speaker 6 (45:32):
Uh, he was football coach, the track coach and went on.
He didn't get in the I got it.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
It was too corny to.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Did he have a fan?
Speaker 4 (45:47):
Steve Miller coach Milford, Tom Milford basketball coach right, so
they deserve.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
As he as.
Speaker 7 (45:54):
He allowed me to play. His final words were, I
don't want no crap out of you.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Like, okay, ye be guys.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
Mine was I got to play once.
Speaker 6 (46:05):
We had a we had a bunch of guys hurt,
and the coach set me in. He goes, well, at
least you know the plays. I said, yeah, I don't
know how well, but I know.
Speaker 4 (46:13):
I don't you wish there was huddle back then?
Speaker 6 (46:16):
Oh no, you should have seen the line of scrimmage.
We had somebody, we had somebody missing it left guard.
Speaker 3 (46:23):
It's like everybody else played guard. I came in at guard.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
Jesus that talk about the easiest sack in America were
out of here. Mixed shots, we had fun. Citizen Go Cowboys.
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
Good afternoon, Cowboy Nation, and welcome to the taj Mahala
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home of your Dallas Cowboys here in Frisco. I'm heck Maharrison.
The truth is in the booth, and obviously the star
of the show, Mickey Spagnola is here. Mickey, it's it's Thursday.
I'm gonna get you used to answering this question on Thursdays.
(00:54):
All right, Mickey, how are you doing today?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Two out of four?
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Eight bad?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Here? Two out of four bad? But you got to
answer my question. Yes, how are you doing today? I'm
doing better, doing better? Yes, you know, the people got
a lot of fans, a lot of followers that people.
A lot of people want to know what's going on
with Mickey spagnol And you have been wearing that brace
all week long. I don't know what's wrong with you,
so with some cause your hand is swollen. I've been
(01:18):
looking at your fat fingers.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
You're tired of seeing that.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I mean, I just want to know.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I need this cover to do the whole.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
What did you, mick?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
What did you do to yourself?
Speaker 6 (01:26):
Well, initially thought I fractured a bone in my hand, okay,
And the hand specialist read the X ray and said, no,
you didn't do that. You got some degenerative stuff going
on in your hand that you irritated, okay, and it
caused my hand to swell up and sore.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
And so the story goes, you were power lifting.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
That's right that What did you do? I started bowling left.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yes, something happened. What were you doing to do?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
It's a dumb story.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
You got ain't got number of time.
Speaker 6 (02:00):
I was trying to carry something with my left hand
and it irritated it.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
That's all that happened.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
Well, it was a one of the rolling garbage cans.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, the kind of just pushed down and pull.
Speaker 6 (02:13):
Out and bend it. And when I went to bend
it down, it didn't bend because it was really heavy and.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
My hand.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Yes, you say, it's not a good I like the left.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Handed Mickey, I would have made up something. That's what happened.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I've been trying.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
That's what swow you up like that?
Speaker 6 (02:33):
Yeah, and a little old age probably.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
To go with the degenerative stuff. Yeah. Well, look I
know in that, I.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
Know I'm no longer going to be able to do
a two handed backhand.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Okay, dude, you have swollen up. I don't know what
you did. It's pretty bad.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
It's down, now, is it?
Speaker 6 (02:49):
Oh you should have seen it on the weekend.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
How now? Now? How is that? I'm a I'm a
right hand. You right handed? Uh huh? Okay, so you're
you're you're good, You're still functioning.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
Here's what you find out. Okay, there's a hell of
a lot of things you'd need two hands to do, yes, sir,
and you don't realize it until you only have one.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Right Yeah, so you're you're limited.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
Oh yeah, or slower, let's put it that way. So
it takes more time. Okay, So typing very difficult. Sunday night,
after the game, I was doing a lot of picking
and pecking and handed or just so with my right
hand and you know, doing what the left hand was
supposed to do. It took a while I take a
(03:32):
long time to write. Oh man, this took even longer.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
So now you just picking away yet, Well.
Speaker 6 (03:38):
These fingers are working better. So the only thing that
doesn't work is the thumb key to hit the space part.
I thought of dictating, right, But if you do that
like on a program.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yes, of course.
Speaker 6 (03:50):
So back in the day when we used to dictate
on deadline, right, you didn't have time to get to
the office. You'd you know, you know, paragraph, read the
sentence period new graph right. Well, if you do that.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
And somebody's listening to it, it's gonna put.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
P E R, I O D, of course, and then
you've got to go through the whole thing to correct it.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
So I just picked and pecked.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Dude. There's so much stuff out here now that could
dictate things, but.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
You can't do that part of it, right, No, not
going to put the paragraph in. No, it's not going
to put the period or the quotation mark in.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Dude. There's something out there.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
It's gonna read what you said.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Not completely. Now, I'm telling you. Technology has advanced to
a point now, Mickey, where you being.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
All right, well, somebody send me that app Okay, I think.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
I got a few suggestions. I'm gonna get him going
for you now in your notebook, then we're gonna start
with that. Trayvon Diggs. Trayvon Diggs has asked the question
to his defensive coordinator if he could play more zone
and your thoughts on that? As reports came out that
that was a question that Trayvon Diggs is like, look,
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you know enough of his zone stuff, can you put
me in man? Your thoughts on that in the notes
you took.
Speaker 6 (05:05):
Well, let's go back to the Bears game third and eight.
He went up to the line of scrimmage to play
man and he fell down. Remember that play? Okay, So,
as Everson has preached to us on and on, it's
harder to play man than it is zone.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
And so.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
You know, it's not just all about him. It's about
getting everybody else ready to go. And you know a
lot of you know, he hasn't played any football. No
one wants a factor that in. Everybody say, well, he's
got a knee, Okay, fine, he spent time last week
on the stationary bike there in practice he was limited, right,
(05:53):
so they didn't start him. And you know it's getting
interpreted as he got benched. I looked at it is
they were trying to regulate his snaps. And the third,
the third possession, he went out there at cornerback. The
first two they had digs in Elam and then Ready
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Steward when they went to Nickel, and then they finally
switched it up and they actually when he went in,
they played Bland into Nickel a couple snaps, but then
they ended up going back to Ready. So I just
think he's got to play better and be able to
play more than I don't know what he had twenty
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twenty five thirty snaps. So, and here's the other thing
on all these other stats that come out about well
his percentage of coverage or whatever. That yardage thing was, Okay,
if you're playing zone, are you responsible for who you're
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responsible for?
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Who makes that decision?
Speaker 6 (07:03):
Right right? Because you're probably not covering the guy you
lined up across from ten yards deep or five yards
off the scrimmage. If that guy goes inside, you're not
going inside with him. No, you get charged for those yardage.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Now, I mean, I guess the bigger question when you
say playing time, Trayvon Diggs hadn't missed any game game
time this season, correct.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
Well, he's he's played limited on a line of course,
coming back, coming back from the knee raff.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
All of those expectations exactly is Mickey, is what you're
talking about more related to the off season than it
is what you're talking about what's happening right now.
Speaker 6 (07:39):
Because he hadn't played, so he limited himself physically getting
ready to play football, Okay, but not the physical part,
the ability to get back and play.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
How long do you think he's gonna wear that? How
long this as far as this season, as this season
goes along, Yeah, how long do you think?
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I think it's time.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
It's time.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
It's time.
Speaker 6 (07:59):
Okay, you start playing like Trayvon Diggs and and and
your heart into it. Also now it sounds good. Now
you've got to perform. And when Bland got back, you
know the same thing with him. It's like he missed
what two games? This was the first first game he played, right,
(08:20):
are you going to sit there and analyze, you know,
coming back from injury, Oh he did this or he
didn't do this? Right, It takes a while to get
back to play football, and that's why they kind of
regulate their snaps to begin with.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
So now I think it's.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
Getting closer to having your maybe top three guys out
there if Elam's considered one of the top three, right,
and then Reddy Stewart. Yes, so those are your four
guys you're playing. So I think you got a mix
and match. But obviously the assignments have to be better.
You're gonna see Wan Yer Thomas starting at safety for
(09:00):
hooker it sounds like he's probably out a couple of weeks.
And and then the linebackers have to play better too
if you're going to play zone, so the whole zone
is not always on the corners.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
It's it's it's it's everybody. It's that back, right, and
they have to communicate better, and that's been one of
the main things that you've heard coach.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I think that's improved. But I think that.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
No, just knowing what you got to do. I mean,
you know what you got to do. Now you've got
to do it right to carry out your assignment. So
you know, Abrafers talked about it.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
He was doing his deal.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
Just before I are still doing it. Probably when I
came down and he you know, he basically said, yeah,
Diggs came to me. He said, I value his pinion.
His opinion, but we've got to grow as a group,
not just guys out here. Yeah right, okay, you go
play man and everybody else will plays zone.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Hey, Deon Sanders ask him about that.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
Right, So, so I think there's a lot more to it,
but I think it's just getting back to playing football,
and he just hasn't done that much over the last
well think about it. I don't remember how many games
he missed the year before with the ACL.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
It happened late, so I believe it may have been
five or six games.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
Okay, And then last year it was it was the
knee again, the other knee.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Almost the entire season felt like.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
Yeah, and he tried to play through it and then
sat out, then came back, and then they put him
on ir uh and then he had surgery and it
was a serious surgery too. It was complicated. Yes, so uh, yeah,
they just got to get him back to playing his
brand of football, regardless if they're in man or in there,
if they're in zones.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
I agree with you, Mickey, Mickey. I think that a
part of his game is confidence, and he can't be
confident the way that he's been playing. You talk about
the third and eight play against the Chicago Bears where
he tries to get hands on, he missed, he stumbles,
and the guy burns him for a touchdown. And that
isn't something that there isn't something that we've been seeing
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from Trayvon Diggs since he had the knee injury. But
this weekend, this Sunday, he has Garrett Wilson, a wide
receiver that is really all the Jets have, and they're
gonna try and hit him deep and you're gonna need
Trayvon Diggs to come into this game to at least
be a percentage of that confidence that you're used to seeing.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
You may see Bland on him instead of Trayvon.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Really well.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Bland when he's healthy.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
Right at this point, he's your number one corner and
here comes our number one corner.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Yes, so it could be. It may not be. You know,
you may be playing sides.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
They may choose who he's up against. You know, I
think it's I think it's you can flip and say, okay,
when he's on that side, Dran Bland's over there or
Digs is.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Over there, And I'm just going back to what you're
saying these guys have in game time and the same
goes with you know, getting on the field and playing
the same thing I believe applies with Deron Bland him
coming back from injury also, and not to mention, he
was on the pitch count last week also, so that's
not mentioned enough when people talk about Trayvon.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
Yeah, and a lot of and we go back to it.
You can play man, you can play zone, but who's
playing it? You got a bunch of backups out there,
you know, And I thought Eberflus pointed it out. He
you know, somebody asked them scheme versus personnel, and he goes, well,
from an injury standpoint, we need some consistency because we
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haven't had the same guys available out there the entire time.
Now they're getting closer to it, right Kayln Carson. They
started his twenty one day window coming off of IR
to see when he's ready. Now again, Uh, he's still
on non football. Wow, They're going to be careful with him.
(13:07):
He hadn't played any football in a year, which he
reminded me of these.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Can I introduce Can I introduce you? Super Bowl champion
Everson Wallas is in the building walking in fashionably late
stop Man.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Which which away by Way, one of.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
The top fifty two guys in the Seniors Committee evaluation
for the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Right now, I think I heard I finally saw something.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
You saw it, my family, you're in there.
Speaker 7 (13:37):
I think somebody had put he made it to the
Hall of Fame. And then try everybody slow it down.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
You are you?
Speaker 6 (13:43):
You along with Don Meredith, Harvey Martin, too Tall Jones
and Leroy.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Jordan's man, five of you.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
That's crazy.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
So you're battlingones, You're battling each other maybe to get
a caliber.
Speaker 7 (13:56):
Martin man about time, right, I mean, that's a guy.
And I talked to media people all the time about
Harvey Martin. You know, I'm from Dallas, he's from Old
Cliff and man, you know, just watching him play before
I even became a teammate, the way he lit things
up for Coe MVP with Randy White in the Super Bowl.
(14:16):
He had his issues before he passed on, before he retired,
after he retired, but man, you look at a guy
who brought that much to the Cowboys. And I asked
media guys and they go, oh, no, no, no, no no,
And I'm thinking, why the hell not? You know, don't
just blow off a guy who had over I guess
they started chopping off his sacks.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
I don't know how many he has.
Speaker 7 (14:38):
It gotta be over one hundred and fifteen sacks in
the NFL, and you got guys in there were less
than a hundred. Yeah, and he's not even considered. And
I'm sorry when you start just picking and choosing and saying, oh,
this guy has no chance.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
Why not?
Speaker 7 (14:54):
Why would he not have a chance. I think he's
been the three Super Bowls and he won at least
one satha Cliff's on, and I throw cliffs on. Man,
he was here before all of us was here.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
And I'm hoping ran all of and I'm hoping that
Leroy Jordan didn't need to pass away for everybody to
remember his name year, how good he was.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
That's right. It goes so deflect you just heard. I mean,
I know you went to Harvard, Martin and everybody else, man,
but how does it as as a guy that played
this game and didn't accomplish what you accomplished. I mean,
it's hard to ask you this question because I know
how much football period means to you. But to be
considered amongst the greatest.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
I've been considered so many times that it doesn't it
just falls on deaf ears now because of just the consideration.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
It was exciting.
Speaker 7 (15:42):
Yeah, back, you know, twenty years ago, I was only
up for modern Day once, you know, and because I
just didn't get the support that most players get from
their teams.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
And that's just facts.
Speaker 7 (15:54):
And so when you start talking about hey, man, don't
you excited, Well, man, I was excited twenty years ago, night,
ten years ago, eighteen years ago, fifteen years ago, ten
years ago. You know, I've been through this already. Love
the appreciation, there's no doubt about it. But from what
I might the history shows that it just doesn't go anywhere.
Speaker 6 (16:13):
Yeah, it joining so many times you can have your
heart yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Well look at it this way. You went from a
group of one hundred.
Speaker 6 (16:20):
And sixty two fifty two right right, go now, now
they've got to cut to twenty five, then nine, then three.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
I gotta tell you the funny story.
Speaker 7 (16:29):
When I was up modern Day and you know, we're
in there, you know, we got tequila flowing in the
in the room with my family, you know, Minnesota.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
We're having a good time. And they said, well, when you're.
Speaker 7 (16:40):
In there, you know, make sure, you know, keep your
door closed if we're gonna come knocking. And if we
you know, it said if we come, if we knock.
I think they said something like, if we call you,
then you didn't make it. If we knock, you made it. Well,
as soon as they gave me the instructions on how
this goes, I got a phone call like five seconds
later saying you.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Didn't make it.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
No, I can we see you down in the lobby,
you know, because they're gonna go to the NFL.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Honors deal right right right? Yeah, man.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
I stayed up there and had me a couple of shots. Man,
where am I going? Not putting me in because I'm late,
you know. So then when I finally got on there,
oh man, we thought you made it. Man, you should
have made them like, man, we all should make it.
Everybody on the bus should make it, right, So you
know that was I thought that was so funny, Like, okay, yeah,
here these guys. Oh wait a minute, what's this called?
(17:32):
Hey Everson? Just bring your stuff down?
Speaker 6 (17:34):
Okay, thanks, Well, at least you're in the one section
at the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
What's that the Black College?
Speaker 7 (17:40):
Yes, no, HP, I have I'm on every Hall of
Fame but this one.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
Right, and and by the way, I don't think I
remember to send it to you. But on our massive
road trip this summer, we stopped uh in at the
Hall of Fame. Yeah, and I took your pictures on
the wall. Yeah, took your picture Nate's picture, right, And
I was supposed to send it to your.
Speaker 7 (18:06):
We're all but you're still up there. Yeah, we're over Yeah.
Bill Belichick's game plan against Buffalo. You know I'm in
there for the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
So I'm in there, right, I'm a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Jason, Jason, that's the perfect time to break. We'll take
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Speaker 2 (21:08):
Well back here for the second segment of mixed shots
and leash. Make sure you have that leash. At least
that's right man. Talk about the guy you need not
to take the leash off of and you had the
leash off of him last week. That's George Pickens.
Speaker 7 (21:26):
I love the way he played, yeah, talking about doing
the break. How poised he seems to be at this point.
Everything seems pretty effortless. He hadn't really had to show
his fifty to fifty ball skills, you know, from a
steady standpoint, And I like how he's just really picking
his spots. If you don't press him, then he's gonna
(21:49):
he's gonna tear you up. You got to get in
his face. You got to do things to make him
think about something else. But right now he and Dad
are almost connected as one. That's that's what you want
from your new number one wide receiver.
Speaker 6 (22:03):
Off season work, right he was how you go playing football,
playing for it's going to emphasize it.
Speaker 7 (22:12):
Ain't too much, man, And you know that's kind of
what we're talking about with Diggs. You know, I don't
know what the deal was on his workouts and things
that nature, but I want to be around my boys.
I want to practice with him. I want to be
where it's familiar, you know, and and not it's not
for them to see, it's it's for It's for me.
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You know, it's for me as a player.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
I want to.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
I want to.
Speaker 7 (22:37):
I just want them to know that I have their back.
And just because he's not there does not mean that
he does not have their back.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
But it just when you.
Speaker 7 (22:45):
When you are a team, inclusion is part of it.
And I was hoping. I was wishing he could have
included himself on this off season workout.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
You know when you were talking about what Pickens was doing.
I remember in training camp we see him make these
catches right, and the ball didn't have to be on
the numbers right. He can catch it here a pie
and low whatever. And you saw him catch that low one.
And Schottenheimer when he asked him about it, he goes
(23:16):
and I believe it was shot and Hiram it could
have been Dak, but I thought it was Shotenheimer he said,
if they're in man on him, he's open.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
He's open right now.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Yeah, when you read the defense right, if they want
to go man, he's open.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
And that is not just any smooth he's now. You
know how a lot of guys when they run hard,
they got.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
All this moved action.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
Everything's going flopping around, and he's just smooth.
Speaker 7 (23:42):
Down those are the hardest ones to cover because there's
no tell. When the guy has a lot of action,
Eventually with that action he's going to have.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
To slow it down and make a move.
Speaker 7 (23:55):
So it's predictable when you have a guy Steve larger. Uh,
guys like that where the gate you're talking about, Henry Ella,
the gate is the same, Every route looks the same,
the pace is the same. Then you can't anticipate, you
can't look for a tail. And the next thing you know,
he's got that plant, that plant foot in the ground
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and he goes one way or another. You know what
I'm talking about with your son being a wide receiver. Yes,
these are the kind of things that are the nuances
of being a wide receiver. Drew Pearson, same guy, he
was pigeontoed right. So you're watching him and you're looking
at those legs, you look at this hyps and and
next thing you know, he's gone. Next thing you know,
he's gone, next thing you know, he's value. And those
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are the kind of things that it just drives a
dB crazy because there is no tail on the route.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Let me give you got some information here on this
Jets matchup. The last time George Pickens faced the New
York Jets. Was last season Russell Wilson sixteen for twenty nine,
two touchdowns. Remember RUSS two sixty four. George Pickens went
five catches for one hundred and eleven yard and a touchdown.
So on Sauce, they didn't travel, So it was either side.
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Even though they had some highlight showing them against Sauce,
you know they matched up well, but everybody he burned
him down didn't matter. Five four to eleven and a
touchdown shows you how explosive he was in that game.
In the deep ball was what really killed the Jets
that day versus the Pittsburgh Steels thirty seven to fifteen
and to win. Pittsburgh steel Is winning that game and
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the Jets this season with Aaron Glenn, it's they're completely
different makeover as far as the team is concerned, as
far as the philosophy that he's started to bring. They
have a new offensive coordinator, a young coordinator that's come
in and he's trying to keep guys like justin fields
on time. Defensively, they have Steve Wilkes is their defensive coordinator.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Anything different there, literally.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
They're playing some mixing up just like Ebra Flu's man
with zone. But when you have a big body in
the middle like Quinn Williams and a defense like that,
they depend a lot on that line, on that defensive
line to stop them, to stop they just hadn't been
able to do it, which is surprising for a Steve
Wilks defense.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
Here's here's what I like. Uh Pickens AFC. So this
is his wheelhouse.
Speaker 7 (26:17):
He plays against these guys, all owe them well, so
you know it's gonna be some action going on out there.
It's gonna be some scores that need to be settled.
Sauce might not, might be feeling something kind of way
about how Pickens got them last time. That's gonna be
a nice matchup, not just against Sauce but that entire
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Jet secondary because.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
They remember me, Dickens. You remember me? You know here
I am, I'm back.
Speaker 7 (26:44):
I can't wait for that that emotion to come out
in this game.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
If they remember them, then they're gonna put two guys
and that's fine.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
And that's fine.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
Because it looks like Turpin might not make it back
for this game.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
He thought practice he's.
Speaker 6 (27:01):
Got a foot injury and uh he couldn't be out,
So what are you looking at Pickens Tolbert.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Now that's a big disappointment, and there is a lot
of disappointment with that. That injury report that came out yesterday.
There were a ton of names. Tyler Smith was on there.
There's a lot of different names, but Pickens, excuse me,
Cavant Turpin being one of those names that was on.
It really does and it affects you see how he
affected that Green Bay game with that big run, and
(27:31):
we've got and you say, but there was a holding.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
Call, so they had seven guys that did not practice
booker ceedee lamb. We knew that, right, We sort of
knew Miles Sanders was going to be out.
Speaker 7 (27:47):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
But then when you see guiding, it's still in concussion protocol.
Now that's three starters on the offensive line, and then
all of a sudden, Tyler Smith shows up on it
with a knee and then turping, and you're starting going
getting a lot of thin on offense. It is, and
(28:11):
we rely on the offense to keep us in the game.
So the guiding thing, you know, if he can't go,
that's three fifths of your offensive line.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
I feel so much better about Nate Thomas than i'd be.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
But I do, yeah, yeah, because it was it was
intentional that he got that at least one series maybe
two at right tackle for Steve because they were they
were preparing him, and then he had to go to
the left side in overtime. And I thought he played well.
He played well during during training.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Can no, you talked well about him doing training.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
I just liked for a guy that hadn't played football
since twenty twenty three because he spent all last year
on injured reserve, he does not look like that no
big man strong, so lacks experience. Obviously you can get
taken advantage of. But when I saw that that deal,
and it's like.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
That's a kudos to Will McClay and his staff of
making that decision between Nate Thomas and the other left
tackle that they had they traded away late. What was
his name? Uh, left tackle? He was Richard? Yes, yes, yes,
my man. Yeah, awesome, yes him awesome forgot about him
that fast. Ah, yeah, but I remember that, Dame. But
everybody was kind of wondering how.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
It was somewhat of a competition.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Absolutely, because you thought that Austin Richards had the leg
up on him, and then they and Nate Thomas steps
in and he does a good job. And that's the
thing in this. I don't know how it's going to
work out on game day, but hearing that Tyler Smith
may be ready to go even with the with the
ankle and maybe guiding. But again, the confidence level with
Nate Thomas is there. I tell you where else I'm
confident is in that center and right guard. Not a
(29:53):
lot of people talked about the job the TJ Bass
and you're.
Speaker 11 (29:57):
Come on, now, you know what the highlighted they did
play between the two of them right there. Yeah, and
we probably just take this for granted, but there was
a reason when Schottenheim put his staff together that Clayton Adams,
an offensive line coach, became the coordinator, and then they
(30:19):
brought in yeah yeah, and then they brought in a
offensive coordinator from Kansas State who was an offensive line
coach to be the offensive line coach.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
We covered that right here, right Remember.
Speaker 6 (30:33):
We talked to it, and they doubled down on the coaches
on the offensive line and maybe they have done something.
You know, coaches really never get credit for doing good.
It's always like, well, they what are they doing?
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Well?
Speaker 6 (30:48):
They had these offensive linemen ready to go and talents.
Speaker 7 (30:53):
They had the coaches, like you said, they had the
coaches ready, right, they had the one the ones in
placed that they felt comfortable with. Who's resume is Stella
and y'all you guys called it. You and Bill talked
about this. This was early in mixed shots about how
we're going to be running this ball and they have
we're gonna be running this You know.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
They're not Saquon Barkley running it, but they four games
in a row with.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
More than right now.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Well, yeah, he's drugging que right now.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Well that's because everybody's no, you're not doing this anymore.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
No, but that is safe to say. Isn't that something
I bet you're coming into the season. You wouldn't have
thought that when you're talking about running games. But the
Cowboys all right now running game. Whether the Philadelphia Eagles come.
Speaker 7 (31:35):
Concerted effort as we talked about, to get the personnel
in there, get the coaches first, get that culture that
we talked about, starting with that running culture again.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
And it's working. That's something you know, sometimes it's here
a miss. This time it worked.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
And he's done that.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
Schottenheimer wherever he's been an offensive coordinator, there's been a
priority on.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Running the football.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
You love it when the playing comes together, and it did.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
That's right, you know.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
And if you look at when they opened the game,
I know they went three and out, but it was
three run plays right, even on third and four in
the second series, they ran the ball one two.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Three times.
Speaker 7 (32:25):
I think, yeah, when you look at Dak's play, I mean,
we can talk about how well he's doing this.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
Oh he looks different. Well, that running game helps a lot.
Speaker 7 (32:33):
It's it doesn't seem like it at the time because
he's been throwing so many passes. He got the attempts,
he's got the yards and all that. I think that's
because the timing is good. The play calls are timely
to where we got him on the ropes with Javonte
and here all of a sudden, Now you got worried
about pickings. Now you got worried about ceedee lamb. That's
(32:55):
how you get your forty points a game.
Speaker 6 (32:57):
Well, now the Jets might have to worry about Cowboy.
You're gonna go blue right.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Well, hey, we're gonna stick a pin in it right
there and take our last break and come back with
the final segment segment talking about Blue and what he
can do this Sunday against what Blue do for you?
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Speaker 2 (35:56):
Look who else decides to show up?
Speaker 5 (35:57):
And that's up the whole.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
He just he pours into the studio. That's what. That's
how bial walks. Have you watched it? Like he pours.
He don't walk.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
He pours, and he brings reading this life syrup.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
He just kind of right into it. So he poured
his way into the studio.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Left my stuff in the TV studio.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
Well what is that?
Speaker 2 (36:20):
What do you got?
Speaker 4 (36:23):
Marty Ball? Marty Ball? Oh, nice Marty Ball. It's the
life and Triumphs of Marty Shot.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
You get that from the library.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
It looks like it does.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
It's due back Friday.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Now.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
It says thrift Books.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Bought it online.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Let it go as a matter of fact.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
And I'll tell you what. Let me recommend this book
to any and all of you out there with the
I read it. I read the chapter one last night.
I had read it in the off season, and I
asked Brian Shot and ib just now, what was your
favorite moment in New York when he was the offensive
coordinator of the Jets. He immediately said San Diego game,
(37:07):
And it was in two thousand and nine AFC Divisional
playoff game. Marty Schottenheimer, his dad, had been fired by
the Chargers after a fourteen and two season two years
earlier in two thousand and seven. And so the Jets
are playing the Chargers in the divisional playoff game and
it comes down to a fourth and one play at
(37:29):
the twenty nine yard line. Jets have a seventeen to
fourteen lead, and Brian Schottenheimer calls forty blast, which was
right over the right guard, which is exactly Marty didn't
call it. That didn't have that same name for the play.
I think it was power.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
In fact, he wanted on his tombstone to say Marty
Schottenheimer Power.
Speaker 6 (37:51):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
So Marty is coaching the East West Shrine game in Orlando, Florida.
He can't be at the game. He's watching on television
in a bar in Orlando. Brian's wife and mom are
at the game at Qualcomm Stadium, and it comes down
to that they got to get one yard to beat
the team. That fired Marty Schottenheimer his dad, and he
calls forty blasts and Thomas Jones gets two yards.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
They win the game and go the Thomas Jones.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
Wow, I mean it. And it is really cool the
way this author, Jeffrey Flanagan, the way he set it up.
That that's all chapter one in this book.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
That's my first chapter.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
That's the first chapter.
Speaker 6 (38:30):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
And but he painted the picture of where everybody was
watching the game and what it meant and yeah, exactly.
And Brian's sister Kristen, who apparently knows more football than
anybody in the family. She's back home and wherever she live,
in North Carolina or someplace and watching it. And it's
really cool.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
So so Bill, I'm peddling a book.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Let me let me catch you up. So basically, we've
talked about Aaron Glenn, his coaching staff personnel, got to Wilson,
talked about Sauce Gardner. We talked about what George Pickens
has already done versus the Jets. Five catches, one hundred
eleven yards last season and a touchdown, so big plays
are open. And then and then just as you were
(39:14):
coming into the studio, we were about to get into
a picture blue you're looking for then you finally got one.
You finally got a picture, and we got to blue.
And now we're talking about Blue. So all right, we
left you blue do for you.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Was brown?
Speaker 2 (39:34):
We switched, We switched.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
It's not a sideline promotion.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
So okay, Mickey wasn't here when we were talking about Blue.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Yes, no, he wasn't, so he poured into the conversation.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
You're excited about Blue.
Speaker 6 (39:48):
Well, when I see that, Miles Sanders probably not gonna hie, Cavante, Turbin,
probably not gonna play.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
Where are you going to get your speed from?
Speaker 4 (39:58):
Gotta go Blue?
Speaker 6 (40:00):
And so they're gonna probably get him going, and maybe
even the return kickoffs.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Yeah, I would expect for the road to increase for
a lot of guys.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Definitely kickoffs, right, yeah, don't you think.
Speaker 6 (40:15):
Matter of fact, the special teams coach is probably talking
right now, all.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
Right, and we he is you hear your pick to
click tease for tomorrow?
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Maybe?
Speaker 5 (40:26):
Yeah, no, exactly what I'm.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Not speaking of.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
Remember I was the one that I said, temper your enthusiast.
That was what I said yesterday.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Going through your iPad, find another fourth rounders. Yeah, compare
the college careers Texas hate runs deep. This man is
not gonna stop Bucky Urbans Robins Jon I'd.
Speaker 7 (40:56):
Say, of course, yeah, it go, but I felt that
that's funny.
Speaker 6 (41:04):
My my pick to click is going to be the
NFC Special Teams Player of the Month that we named
two weeks ago.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
Oh h is that official? Now?
Speaker 6 (41:17):
When I was on the radio, they told me.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
Okay, you know who's kicking for the Jets. Former cow
we Nick Folk. Nick Folk, forty one year old Nick Folk.
And by the way, he's kicking very well.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Yes, you know.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
Aubrey is nine for nine on field goals this season,
four for four beyond fifty well. Nick Folk is h
seven for seven on field goals and four for four
beyond fifty yards at age forty one, and over the
last three years beyond fifty yards, he's the best in
the league as far as his percentage fifteen for sixteen
beyond fifty yards the last three years he grew up.
Speaker 5 (41:54):
You know, you remember you kicked the ball?
Speaker 4 (41:57):
Remember that Buffalo game.
Speaker 7 (41:58):
Yeah, I mean that was a moment to where he
was like a second baseman. They couldn't throw the first base.
He was like now blocked there you go. Yeah, but
he would kick it and it would just take off.
Remember he was doing this.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
And I mean he was good enough to win the job,
but this.
Speaker 5 (42:15):
Is before he got that job.
Speaker 7 (42:17):
He would in warm upside we call it was a
Monday night game and they were looking at him kicked
before the game and his kicks would all slice.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
Well, that one Monday night game I'm talking about at
Buffalo where Romo threw how many picks in the first half?
Five picks in the first half and the Cowboys came
back and won that game on a fifty something yard
field goal by Nick Folk after getting the ball back
with like nine seconds left. It was the craziest comeback ever.
Speaker 6 (42:45):
Remember it was that down and out to Witt and
I think it was that game to stop the clock
in field goal range.
Speaker 7 (42:52):
I heard something on the way here. The kicker for
uh We just played the kicker Forcker Packers. He had
made like he had the longest streak of consecutive pats.
Speaker 5 (43:07):
The one that got three and it was the longest.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
Took care of that.
Speaker 5 (43:12):
Jan Ye took care of that.
Speaker 7 (43:13):
It was the longest streak of successful pats at that moment.
Speaker 5 (43:18):
And wan Ye took care of.
Speaker 6 (43:20):
We also talked about Everson being elevated from one hundred
and sixty two senior candidates for the Hall of Fame
to fifty two.
Speaker 7 (43:27):
All right, yeah, ask him about it, because I mean,
how many times have we been here?
Speaker 5 (43:34):
Y'all have been here with me like four times? Come on, man,
you know so he said, fifty.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
Two, Don Meredith, Harvey, Martin Lee.
Speaker 4 (43:45):
What's the next stage? Twenty five? Get down to twenty
five and then nine, got three?
Speaker 3 (43:52):
He got a waste.
Speaker 7 (43:53):
Yes, he asked me, why I don't get excited I've done.
I will never ask him for that. Gave me a
chance to vent. He asked the question, do me a softball?
I vented.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
We are good. So that's been a good show.
Speaker 4 (44:10):
I can tell you to go back and listen to.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
It, and we're glad.
Speaker 6 (44:15):
Uh in Southlake, you're paying your taxes. So the head
football coach could make six figures as the head coach, and.
Speaker 4 (44:21):
Most of the coaches make six figures and athletic directly,
do they really?
Speaker 3 (44:26):
Yeah, a whole bunch of it. There's a great coach at.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Lincoln High School is not making six figures anyway. He
ready to take us about it.
Speaker 6 (44:37):
Because I think he was in the story. By the way,
they did a deal in the Morning News. They did
a survey of the North Texas football coach look at
that and how many of them were making six fingers
good stuff, including either the salary and stipends or whatever else.
Speaker 5 (44:56):
Well, man, when you.
Speaker 7 (44:56):
Look at Texas high school football, man, I mean this,
it's we.
Speaker 5 (45:01):
Dominate all over the dog on country.
Speaker 7 (45:03):
So you better if you're gonna pay some coaches six figures,
it should be in this area.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
Of all your teachers and coaches in high school, who
had the most impact on you?
Speaker 7 (45:13):
Uh, Coach Allen Holiday, there you go, yeah, Coach Allen
he was. He was the one that gave me a
chance to play my senior year. I had my bet
all year and he said, okay, how about you.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Reginald Samples, there you go. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (45:25):
And now at Duncanville, Steve Miller. These are all coaches.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
He's a coach.
Speaker 4 (45:30):
He had a Steve Miller band.
Speaker 6 (45:32):
Uh, he was football coach, the track coach and went on.
He didn't get in the I got it.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
It was too corny to.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Did he have a fan?
Speaker 4 (45:47):
Steve Miller coach Milford, Tom Milford basketball coach right, so
they deserve.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
As he as.
Speaker 7 (45:54):
He allowed me to play. His final words were, I
don't want no crap out of you.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Like, okay, ye be guys.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
Mine was I got to play once.
Speaker 6 (46:05):
We had a we had a bunch of guys hurt,
and the coach set me in. He goes, well, at
least you know the plays. I said, yeah, I don't
know how well, but I know.
Speaker 4 (46:13):
I don't you wish there was huddle back then?
Speaker 6 (46:16):
Oh no, you should have seen the line of scrimmage.
We had somebody, we had somebody missing it left guard.
Speaker 3 (46:23):
It's like everybody else played guard. I came in at guard.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
Jesus that talk about the easiest sack in America were
out of here. Mixed shots, we had fun. Citizen Go Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and
the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
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