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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
This is Mick shot, streaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com
and the official Dallas Cowboys Act. Now Here are Bill Jones,
Heckma Harrison, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
We are t minus one hour and eighteen minutes away
from fall. Yes, it's almost football season here inside the
ss WBC Mortgage Podcast studio here at the Star in Frisco.
Summertime is almost over, the preseason is almost over. It's
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time to kick off the regular season.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
The ways.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
That's the way I look at it. Yeah, we've had
our three preseason games. We had three pre pre season
games for the backups to play. We had three preseason
games for the regulars to play.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Now it's time to kick off.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
That's what I've been watching the last week.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Football today.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
So what you're saying is the Bears played their starters
in the third preseason.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I wouldn't expected you to come in with that.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Okay, does that look like preseason football?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Did it look like preseason to me?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
It looks like it to me. So that's what September
football has become and granted Sunday night against the Packers
will still be September, but now it's time to kick
things off. Unbelievable, that's my take. What's yours?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Which which side of the ball you want to start
picking off?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
I'm not, I'm om sorry.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
Great to have you here, ever, special arrangements to be here,
as we told you on Friday, ever since it was
not going to be here on Monday because he had
another event.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
And rain got in the way.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
And so we are very happy to have Everson here.
I'm not that happy to be explain what happened on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Because I knew you were going to ask me that question,
and I have no idea what the heck happened.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Come on, you were there, I can tell you.
Speaker 6 (02:23):
Come to me.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
The offense let him down.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
The offense.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
I told her, I told you on Friday, or if
you read my column, that this whole thing's on the offense,
because if they don't score thirty points a game, they
got no chance to win, because they're not going to
all of a sudden start stopping people being you know
the situation they are defensively, I mean, there's who they are,
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right I knew that much, but I mean, did you
see the difference between Russell Wilson last week.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
And yeah, right, yeah is that guy? Yeah yeah, I
don't know who he is.
Speaker 7 (03:02):
We scored thirty, would have lost by one, and now
we recognize him.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yeah right.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
And do you see the difference between Caleb Williams last
week and this week?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Anytime you won, first time?
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Repair first time in his career, he's never been sacked.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Been think that goes back to college too, probably maybe,
And he only got quarterback hit once.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
So the defense right now is what it is. The
offense has got to be the savior. And I was
glad that Dak said it after the game because I
had already done my TV report. It's like, you can't
come in here and score fourteen points. You can't come
in here and score one touchdown. You can't come here
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and turn the ball over four times and think you're
gonna win. And basically he said that after the game
that this is on us because it's not okay for
this offense to only score one touchdown.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
In my opinion, the last three turnovers did not factor.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Yes, I know, I know it was.
Speaker 8 (04:08):
It was it was, and I had by the way
the first turnover.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
I went back and looked at five different angles of
that turnover to finally convince me that he wasn't out
of bounds by time he I don't think the ball,
don't because everything I saw before that live I said,
he's out of bounds.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
He's out of bound, He's out before he got control.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
He was, And I thought it was worth a review anyway.
Speaker 7 (04:35):
But don't they review turnovers anything.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
It must have done it ins. But that's the weirdest
turnover I think I've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
But but that's our m O. You know how many
times we've said that in the last three years. Man,
I've never seen anything.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
You know what we do. Before the game? I saw it.
Did you see Kansas City the fumble there was they
fumbled the ball. No, no, it was I'm sorry, Tampa
Bay Mahomes and he Baker Baker Mayfield. Sorry, Kansas City
on no sleep. They fumbled the ball the Jets. The
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Jets picked it up. He goes to make the tackle
and he grabs the ball out of the guys.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
No, no, no, no, it was you got it right,
It was.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
You did not see this before the game? Was after
you saw it after the game last night and uh,
Mahomes that made Mahomes Homes made the plenty yanked it
out of his hands.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Backwards, passed and Bobby correct that. Okay, took me a
while for the Giants. Was football up about the grunning
for a touchdown and stole it away?
Speaker 4 (05:46):
So twice in one day.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Same But I think it's not necessarily what the turnovers themselves,
it's how we react or not react to them. Oh.
It seems to just take all of more mintum away,
especially on the road, which is what I spoke about
earlier last week. We don't do well on the road.
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The Philadelphia game that was an exception I had. So
I'm thinking we are that team now that can respond
no matter whether we're on the road or not. When
we're on the road, as this team, we just don't
vibe well when it comes to turnovers. We don't respond
on the other side of the ball, whether it's getting
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an interception and then you got to take it in
or giving up a damn fumble like we did yesterday.
First of all, man, you're running on the sidelines, You're
not going to get any further what.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
You're going to doubted myself.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
You're not going to get any further when you're running
down the sideline. Take your butt out of bounds, and
let's let's take the twenty five or thirty yards that
we had.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Everybody watching that play. As you're watching that play, what
were you thinking.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I'm thinking, gets your belt out of back.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
I was thinking, watch out from behind, Watch out.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
That's the same thing that happened to Sanders from behind.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Right, Yep, you could see it playing out.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
So but anyway, they had him third and eight at
the thirty five and digs in man coverts that everybody's
been yelling for, right, goes to bump the line of
scrimmage God, and he falls down. He falls down, and
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the guy's wide open.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
My coast told me, you can't slips, Hunt, you can't slip.
That's what my DV coast said. I slipped. Well, hell,
you can't slip. That's just the way it is. You
cannot slip.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
And then they are okay, you're non seven to nothing. Okay,
no big deal.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
You drive, But before you before you move on as
a cornerback in that situation, how much does it affect
you that you haven't had I'm talking about digs press
coverage that you haven't had time on task and preparation
for the season, and where something slight slipping can happen
because of your technique, whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
He doesn't have confidence in himself right now. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
And by the way, he was at an additional add
to the injury report on Saturday for his minit.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah okay, And so to me, right now, he doesn't
have confidence in his ability right now because he doesn't
feel like he has the timing. As you kept talking
about how the just you can't ramp up that quickly,
and he's coming off of an injury. I remember bragging
about me not missing any I didn't go to practice,
but then I played in the game. Well, I wasn't injured.
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I wasn't coming off of an injury as he did.
I was just holding out for a contract. So I'm
going to give him some grace there. But if you're
going to come in and you don't think you have
everything about yourself physically, you got to be solid in
the technique. You can't do tricky things. Tricky things don't work.
You have to be as solid as possible because the
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mistakes are gonna come even with you being solid in
your in your technique, but you can't try to outthink him.
I think he did the same thing in the Giants game. Yeah,
you're trying to jump something heroic stuff. You can't work
right now. You have to just do the basics until
you whatever you want to call it, timing back that
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you don't have right now.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
And by the way, I think that's one of the
major reasons that abra Flus has been playing zone so
much was because of getting give him back on You want.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
To be able to. You want to be able to,
you know, get the relationship with the wide receiver versus
the ball. You want your timing to be down and
things of that nature. Its timing is not down.
Speaker 7 (09:48):
Let me just say this. I mean in that situation,
ever since you got a blitz coming and you're playing man,
you know what your responsibilities are, the boundaries your best
friend and if you are injured, like you just said, man,
don't play hero ball at a moment like this, because
when you miss and you slip, it's done.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Doonzy is you can also re injure yourself. That can
happen also.
Speaker 7 (10:11):
But in the last three games, this defense has not
been presenting pressure at all, and on the game on
Sunday because of the lack of pressure. You have a
quarterback in Caleb Williams, no matter what you believe, whatever
you think of him, from last year, sack sixty eight times,
they lost six times at home. You turned him into
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something yesterday that he hadn't been since he won the Heisman.
We hadn't even seen that version.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
For a touchdown pass.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
You haven't seen that version of him.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
So seven games, there was nothing that.
Speaker 7 (10:45):
We've seen on tape from when he played Minnesota or
even when they got boat raced by the Detroit Lions
that told us that Caleb Williams was capable of doing
this this defense. So it's so bad at this right now.
Maybe we figured out how to stop the run, but
on the back end of our defense, no matter how
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eba FLUS is trying to disguise coverage, teams are not
buying it because every time you saw a touchdown, there
wasn't even a cowboy in the frame.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
There's no one in the frame.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
These guys are butt naked at the back of the zone.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Excuse me by yourself.
Speaker 7 (11:24):
Hello.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
So at least at least they at least they responded, right,
You get to third and five at at the Chicago
thirty seven. They don't pick up the first down, they
get a field goal fifty two yards and you're sitting
there going, okay, yeah, you're.
Speaker 7 (11:43):
Decent, no big deal. Well you're talking or not before
the fleet flicker.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
But here's what happens. I'll guarantee you. Ben Johnson had
that play in and he's thinking, Okay, their defense can
be all riled up. Now they're gonna come after us. Right,
he had put that play in. He said his staff
figured it out. But why he called it there, I
don't know. Because the Cowboys came out with a five
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man defensive line, one linebacker, five dbs. Right, they's hand
the ball off the swift. If it's a running play,
Mazie's going to get a tackle for a loss. He
actually split the double and then the elam bites on
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the run. Right, they got Bridges playing on the other side.
Uh for Diggs, I guess they thought, well, okay, this
is the defense we're playing and they're playing two tight ends. Right,
So the receiver on the other side More gets a
free release Steward and Bridges just let him go across
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the field. They got one linebacker in the game and
after elam Let and I got a story on Luther Burden.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
By the way, Oh he's in Missouri. Of course you do.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
I'm going to call time On Thursday. I talked to
my college roommate, biggest Bear fans ever. You tell him
nineteen eighty two played the Cowboys. He'll tell you what
happened in the game. And I told him, I said,
what's up with Ben Johnson. Burden's only touched the ball
twice in two games. He's got two catches for two yards.
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Don't they know they got to get the ball in
his hands. He bugged my call because Burdon takes off
and he is and Zacarius are wide open, and here's
hooker in the middle. He's got to choose which guy
do I take. He took the guy crossing in front
of us, and Burden is so wide He's as wide
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open as the length of Lake Michigan, right, and there's
no one there to cover sixty five yards right. And
guess what the rest of the game. He had four
touches for one hundred and eight yards.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
And it was as poorly an executed flea flicker in
the offensive backfield as you could have it. Didn't and
it was also as poorly executed in the defensive backfield.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
But he, I mean, he almost didn't get the pitch
back all right.
Speaker 7 (14:18):
I got through it straight up in the air.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Yeah, and I'm going but he looked like my six
year old grade son playing flag football. He's the center
and everyoneever. But there's no pass rush.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
And then suddenly it's for fourteen to three, right, and
it's like.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
And we're still good though, Oh yeah, we're still.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Still in the ball game. Yeah, but you can't kick
another field goal? Yeah right, And that's that's what happened.
Speaker 7 (14:42):
So we literally talked about that last week, about not
exchanging field goals for touchdowns, and I was that's exactly
some props.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
That was your thing on the rundown. It was something
that you said, Spags. I had all in my head
while I was watching the game. But that's certain thing
that we literally brought up in this game. No field goals.
We got to score in the red zone. That's that's
the number one thing that he said. And I know
you had said something else, Bags, I can't remember exactly
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what it was.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
So he's always said, you can't exchange field.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Goals first, Yeah, but now your here was something specific
and I can't. I can't.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Losing.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
But having set off, then the Cowboys come back and
with next two possessions, a field goal and then a
touchdown and two point conversion, and now, okay, yeah it's
fourteen fourteen. Even though you don't have CD, now you're
back to square one. You've even things up. I felt
like at that point when Pickings made the one ended
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catch in the end zone, got the two point conversion,
the game is now back under.
Speaker 7 (15:47):
The second quarter, second quarter, and that's where that's where
it was like at that moment, right before half, the
moment that look, you could take command. You could go
into halftime with the lead. And then the Bears, I
believe the kicked the field goal. We go, we get
the ball back, and we ourselves in the foot. We
go three and out, give them the ball back and
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they school and then we go to the we go
in the half down ten.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I never felt good even when we tied it up,
because I just did not see us defensively having a
hold on what they were doing. I still saw them
having the advantage on us.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
That did you see anything that they were doing that
was that complicated because they were in twelve for I mean.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
A problem was we didn't do anything complicated on defense
number one, We didn't complicate them when it came to
our pass rush. Once again, he never got sacked. I
think they said in the entire didn't never got pressured.
When you sitting back there like that, I know our
secondary is under duress because we were under duresk when
we first came in. I don't care what kind of
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zone you run. You can stretch a zone by giving
the quarterback way too much much time. Wide receiver can
take this hole, he can use this window. This guy
can be scrambling here. You know, we're all in disarray
in the secondary. It showed up over and over again
every dog go pass play. And once again, Caleb, if
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you're up for a new contract Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Well and if you go back to what Bill talked
about on Friday with their two tight end offense, that
that's what they were going to do, right, And they
confused them with the two tight end offense. And on
that next possession after they kicked the field goal, they
were basically in two tight end. They had them third
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and two. They hit a dunzie. How do you say
thirteen yards for first down. Next play, old Luther Burden
showed up for twenty nine yard catched in their first
goal at the ten and no one covers the tight
end off the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Yeah, what was going on with that?
Speaker 7 (18:04):
Whatever the disguise is, it had to be him. Yeah,
whatever the disguise is in coverage. If Donovan Wilson is
going to be at the line of scrimmage on that
play and you expect for him to drop back into
his zone, that's not his strong suit.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
But he's got to re route him at least right,
re route.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Them into basically zone coverage on the left side, yes,
and uh Malik Hooker was shaded to the right side
where they had three receivers right, they had two to
the left. But Donovan dropped into how.
Speaker 7 (18:34):
Does he end up at the back of the end
zone by himself?
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Because they were playing the run. I guarantee you two
tight ends. They thought they're going to run the ball.
They got Donovan Wilson on the line of scrimmage and
he just lets the tight end on.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Okay, So but he dropped into coverage.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Yeah, but he was, but he was lined up at
the linebackers.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Were playing the run, so they weren't dropping and then
Hooker was was shaded to the right side, and so
I don't round.
Speaker 7 (19:00):
They are confused as as much confused as we are.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
He's got two linebackers and right, well he was.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
He was basically playing up as the same depth as well,
same depth as a linebacker is where Donovan was. But
he the tight end was there. Then there was a
wide receiver, and so there were only two receivers to
that side and two defensive players to that side of
the corner and the safety with that side. Linebackers were
lined up in the middle like they're playing run, and
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then all the other dbs were on the other side
of the field, and so on that side of the
field there are only two dbs where Donovan Wilson and
whoever was the left corner the left corner.
Speaker 7 (19:39):
Yeah, you're on the goal line. You're on the goal line,
you're in the red zone. Whatever that look, it's it's
got to be a more simple and it.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Was as simple a tight end. It's got to be.
I mean, two dbs, What the hell the man? Yeah,
that's it.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
That's they're basically in man coverage, right, But if they catches.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
The touchdown, He catches the touchdown, and my defenders not
even running like, hey, it's a misdassignment.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Instead of that by itself.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
It was like the phone booth said.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, just right there, come on, man, that's that's by time.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
By time the half was over, they had passes of
sixty five yards, thirty five yards, forty one yards and thirty.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
One that's insane.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
That's an average of twenty No, and they they only
had ten completions in the first half. They were averaging
twenty three point nine yards of catch.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
So and see, now we can talk about this parts
and stuff all we want to blame on that, but sometimes, man,
you just gotta know what the hell you're doing. Man,
you's got to be be where you're supposed to be.
Whoever you are, be where you're supposed to be. You
can't play football without you being in the right position
and without knowing what to do. And it seems like
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it could be every defensive player as far as we know,
but the score plays. There always seemed to be some
screw up from some individual, at least more than one
individual at a time.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Yeah, it's one thing to get just beat right.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
It's mistakes, Yes, it's everything is mistakes. Oh well he
was supposed to know. I didn't know, man, Come on, man,
sounded like arguing with my kids when they were three
years old. I didn't know. Yeah, that's gonna be the
last words. It's never a defensive I don't know. I
don't know I did.
Speaker 7 (21:27):
But that's the part about it when you look at
when you talk about eba flus in this defense, is
how are these guys this confused playing a basic coverage?
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Well, maybe they're trying to do too much.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
There was nobody outside.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
I'm showing Everson the touchdown to Cole Comet.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
He passed right by Comet to go where the receiver
was covered out there by the court.
Speaker 7 (21:49):
You going, you see how close to the line of
scrimmage is, though.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Then you might as well taken me pass away by you.
Speaker 9 (21:55):
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Speaker 2 (21:55):
There you go again. Yeah, now now that that diagramming, Man,
that's a better angle. But that's what he runs right
past you. He's in his face or like, it's like
you said, come with me. He's like, no, I don't
want to go with you. I'm gonna go over here.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Just punch it that I know, I know, but that's
why I'm saying, this is the defense they have. The
offense has got to score points and they didn't do it,
and you're working to win the game twenty to seven.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
We knew that. We knew that coming in, right, and
I appreciate your observation, but we knew that coming in.
We know this, We knew this coming into the season,
that we're gonna have to score a bunch of points.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
And when we come back here on mix shots, I've
got the biggest play from the second half of this.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Football game, one of nineteen.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Okay, the biggest play of the second half, and we
come back on mix shots.
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Speaker 3 (25:23):
Okay, I'm going to get to the biggest play of
the second half of this game in my opinion, But
first let me ask you who what Cowboy offensive player
had the best game yesterday?
Speaker 2 (25:37):
God Williams, Javonte Williams.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Yeah, there's no doubt, and at halftime of that game
he had nine carries for sixty seven yards. Now, he
had to fumble obviously.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Okay, then stop it from coming in there.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Nine carries for sixty seven yards. He finished the game
with ten carries for seventy six yards. His one carry
in the second half was for nine yards on the
first play of the third quarter, and he.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Was taking some people with him, that's right.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
And then he caught a pass for two miles. Sanders
came in seven yard catch, Sanders, four yard run, first down,
first and ten at the fifty yard line, Sanders for
five yards.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
You didn't like your.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Second and five at the plus forty five yard line, Okay,
And keep in mind Chicago had a twenty four to
fourteen lead, and the whole key to the second half
is the Cowboys had to come out in the third
quarter and have a touchdown scoring drive. They've established the run.
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The other thing to keep in mind, as bad as
this defense is, what the Cowboys have to do to
control get control of football games is to be able
to run the football, just like they did to start
the second half of the game. But you still have
to pass it as well.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
All right.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
So now you're second and five at the plus forty
five and what happens Dak Prescott gets sacked. Tyler Goyiton
gets beat off the edge by Dominique Robinson.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
What happened then?
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Ten yard loss? Ten yard loss, and now it's third
and fifteen.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
They were trying to go deep and they sent pickens
and turping deep and both of them were covered in
man and he waited too long. Well, I guess I
did long.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
He didn't have right fall, I don't think, because there
was also a rush up the middle.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Now it's minus but it's minus ten and now you're
facing third and fifteen, and he got pressure and dumped
the ball.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Well, and they also brought not only did Guyiton get
beat off the edge, but Tremaine Edmonds. It was a
blitz and he wasn't picked up, and so there was
pressure coming from inside and pressure from the outside. It's
a ten yard sack. In my opinion, it was the
biggest play of the second half because now the Cowboys
are facing third and fifteen and any hope of having
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a touchdown score drive was pretty much out the window.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
And it neutered. It neutered the fact that you deferred.
You deferred to get the ball the start third quarter
and you did nothing.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
And so then what happens and keep in mind this
and this is the difference between the I believe the
Chicago offense and what they want to do offensively this
week has compared to last week. What happened last week,
Detroit was able to score, score, and score some more.
Ben Johnson went forward on fourth down at midfield a
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couple of times, gave the Lions a short field, so
the Lions had the lead in the game. The weakness
on the Chicago offensive line are the two tackles. They
What they did do to help Caleb Williams this year
in the offseason was they got Joe Toney to play
left guard. They signed a veteran center and Drew Dolman,
and they got Jonah Jackson to play right guard. So
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what they want to do with this football team is
to run the football to help out their young quarterback.
And so when they have a ten point lead in
a game, they can do what they did on their
next drive, which was go nineteen plays seventy whatever yards.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
It was.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Now you have to defensively, you have to stop them,
but that was a primarily a run the football all
drive twelve times, twelve straight times they run the football
and one stretch during that.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
But you know what, the Cowboys had him in the
same situation on the first set of downs. It was
third and ten at the thirty five, and they were
able to They went three wide and the tight end and.
Speaker 7 (29:38):
Is that the dumped the Swift? No, it was.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
To DJJ really didn't show up in the game that much. Right,
He gets twelve yards, he beat he beat Stewart out
of the slot and first down and that's when it
went on. Was that night nineteen plays. Somebody figured out
it was their longest drive since two thousand and nine.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
But what happens on that too, is you're sitting there.
Once they get to midfield, it's four down territory and
so now they can run the football and it's it's
the Philadelphia approach to football and where you're able to
run the ball enough, and Cowboys weren't.
Speaker 7 (30:18):
You know.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
The first play of that drive, Leofol blitzed and Swift
went for eleven yards and that got the that got
kickstarted the drive. I was thinking back to yeah, exactly,
but remember what remember the Philadelphia game coming out of
the weather delay. What did what did Debra Flus do?
He had he ran two corner blitzes on the first
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two plays of that position for Philadelphia. Now they were
backed up at their own ten or fifteen yard line,
so the field position was different there too. But and
the other thing is, and I think I give credit
to Caleb Williams for this, at the at the snap
they saw Leo Foul. He was he he There was
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a longer count there were There was an audible at
the line of scrimmage. And I think they knew Leo
Foul was coming because he showed that he was coming.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
But do you know what, at least they did when
we thought what they would do two tight ends, because
they were such good receivers, they had Leo Foul out
there instead of Damon Clark.
Speaker 7 (31:23):
Speaking of Damon Clark, and that's the play I'm talking about.
I believe it was swift. I don't know if it
was on this drive or not bad angle on that play,
Let's swift out the back for the big run. It
was out in the pass out in the flat.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
He broke an he did. And that was that.
Speaker 7 (31:44):
We talked about this lineback and corps and you know
these they had their tests obviously the safeties as well
with comment and Lovelin. But man, it just it never
got to the point where you had any I guess
confidence that the linebackers could even chase these guys down
to get a stop.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
And that was the second quarter drive. That was That
was the second quarter, and it was a third and
nine play and Swift went for forty one from the zone,
thirty six to.
Speaker 7 (32:11):
The another one of those backbreaking plays that I thought
that to defer to the third quarter. Again, offensively, you
needed to come up with something for that split to
even matter. But to go three and out and then
come back in the third quarter and not produce anything.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
That was on the field to start the third quarter
two rather than to monk clark well not just covering
the tight end, but covering the back.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
It wasn't just that you're playing a zone. It wasn't
man to man. So the reaction from all of the
secondary should have been better, because if you're in zone,
you're looking back at the play, you hope that was
a quick screen. It wasn't like they delayed, delayed, delayed
that they were able to As safeties, cornerbacks and linebackers,
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they should have been able to kind of diagnose that
to where you can keep it at least at the
most twenty yards for him to get forty, then that
just show lack of recognition by the secondary. I thought
the biggest play, I don't know my biggest, but god,
it was such a disappointing play was Pickings drop.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Yes. I just thought that was bad because it was
an interception yea.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
And you know, here we are.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
And it's not just that he makes I die number one.
God one hand right double catches, and I mean, and.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
It was there. It was almost as if he was already.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Two moves in. He was going, yes, going.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Two moves into. Mentally, he was already two moves ahead.
But it seemed an extremely lackadaisical miss because it wasn't
the past, wasn't hard, wasn't a difficult pass. He had
his hands right there. It's like he looked right at
it and just decided not to catch it.
Speaker 7 (33:52):
And I have been begging for Pickings to be more
involved in this offense. And when CD went down, obviously
is that was devastating thinking.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
But you're thinking, this.
Speaker 7 (34:01):
Guy, this his time, he's gonna get He's going to
prove to everybody, you know, hit his value. And it
never came. You never saw it. And the thing is
after drops, and it was the it was what happened
on the sideline. It's you know, I know they the
cameras are going to freeze frame and see you throwing
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your helmet down, tiel over your head, all of those things.
And we've talked so much about culture and where we're
going as an organization and getting past things like that,
and for that to be how you act in that moment,
I was so Look, I'm just disappointed because this young
man has so much promise and I know playing with
Cedee Lamb is going to be one of those things
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is going to help propel him professionally because the double
team is going to be on CD. But when you
gotta have it, you gotta have it.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
And when you come here with a REP, it's unfortunate,
but you're going to be looked at just as you were.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Well I'm sure he was frustrated.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Yeah, but but.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Five catches sixty eight yards in a touchbow.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
He doesn't he doesn't have that luxury right now.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
No, not not versus. I don't know that Lamb's gonna
be ready to play well.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
No, no, I'm just talking about his entire reputation.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Because I just everybody's like every.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Over analyze it. This is what they're gonna look at.
You know, I was hoping somebody would come over Dack
or somebody like, hey, man, don't worry about that. This
next y'all, right, next play. I was hoping someone did it.
I didn't see that, but I'm pretty sure someone had
to talk to it. Because you don't want to isolate
yourself now, because that was your reputation coming from Pittsburgh.
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You isolated yourself when things got bad. So just that little,
that little nugget right there, I just don't want that
to be there.
Speaker 7 (35:44):
Well, he's going to rehab. He's going to rehab with
CD this week on the phone with CD to make
sure CD gets right, because man, this offense obviously we
see now the office does not function without CD. And
I love y'all know how much I love our tight end, Kelsey,
I mean kittled.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
My homes.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
You know how much I love my tight end.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Right, But you don't want him to have thirteen.
Speaker 7 (36:15):
Fergus not Antonio Gates. I don't get it. I don't
get him in us.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
That was a new workload for him.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
You realize how hot it was human how many how
many talks he got I think it was fifteen.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
I know the man's name, but I know damn that.
Speaker 7 (36:35):
But we're gonna rely on him those boys, and they
call it deep going to the Deacon dk off Listen.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
If we're gonna use him like that, I think he
really should be further down the field.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
I think there had to be some reason they were
they well, they had hit them down the field.
Speaker 7 (36:51):
Yeah, they were double team and picks, I'm sure. Yeah,
all of that picking soon as CD would don't have
the other.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Guy's got to be one on one. And you know
how we we want.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Well, I want everybody out there that wanted the Cowboys
with all the depth that wide receiver put their hand
in the air because they wanted to trade somebody, right,
Mingo gets hurt, Lamb gets hurt, and now you're out
there with pickens and what Tobert turping noise out there.
(37:21):
But that guy what he is and you said, by
the way he got last game. They didn't have him
at the end of last game, and he made a couple.
Speaker 7 (37:29):
Of across around that was that was lit. Big catch.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
That plays big. I can't believe those things keep opening up.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
But again, if you're going to use your tight end
as much as you as much seems like we're going
to have to. I think they should create more space
for him and go further down the field because as
much as he you know, he's mean and all that,
and he can he can take some hits.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
But five yards and turn arounds.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Not right there on them. So let's get him down
the field to where if he catches it, then at
least you got fifteen before he goes.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
I don't know if the cameras caught Dak on the
sideline so they took him out after that.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
I don't think. No, he was not. He did not
take his halm on off and he's doing there.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
You see him.
Speaker 10 (38:14):
He was.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
He was almost ready to run.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
On the field, right.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
And uh, and then he I think when he came
out for I was thinking he was going to blow
off the postgame interview and he didn't, and he came
in and smiled and he answered everything. Right, But yeah, he.
Speaker 7 (38:30):
Did you agree with that.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
I don't think he liked the fact that they weren't
waving They weren't they were waving the white white flag
four minutes. But it looked like he got benched because
of the interception, right, it wasn't his interception, right, I mean, yeah,
don't know, he didn't. He forced it into him in
the game.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Did you like Milton coming in the game and getting
some places?
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Yes, hey, threw a topdown.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
You know the reason I liked it is because you
might need Milton at some point in the season, how many,
and at least you get him.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
He looked like he was funking in a game that
they were not going to win.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
And past coaches, the last two coaches at least, would
never do that.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
Dak would have talked him into standing.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
In And I like the fact that this one said,
you know what, Milton needs to get something.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
They ever show a replay I need him. The replay
of the touchdown pass that got called back.
Speaker 7 (39:21):
Well, they called it on Guiden, but I don't I swear.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
When I saw it he was standing standing on the
yellow line on the line of scrimmage. Why on the
back side of the plague because he rolled to his right.
Would the left tackle be running down field? I think
they they must have said the wrong.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
All right, we're going to take a break.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
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Speaker 3 (42:25):
Okay, I'm trying to get this. You ain't get this
thing to queue up on my iPad. Mickey, here, you
hit play, You hit play on this and this is
the play just for youet to watch. Watch quick and
see where Guiton is on it. Okay, we're watching the
pastor Brevin Span four that Goton got called for being
down ineligible man downfield. He is a couple of yards.
(42:48):
The line of scrimmage was the forty one and he
was a nine yard line. At the next play, it'll
be you'll see the end zone coming up. But anyway, Oh,
he never.
Speaker 10 (43:01):
Talk.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
Your microphones will get there.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
That's what I thought.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
I what did you see there? Make you tell us what?
Speaker 4 (43:06):
He was straddling the line of scrimmage and maybe after
the completion he was a step over it. How do
you throw a flag on that?
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (43:15):
I mean not said it was going to make a
difference in the game. But for Milton, you know, he
did the right thing. Everybody did the right thing. They're
at the three yard line.
Speaker 7 (43:24):
Oh wholl we got out of this with no cussing, right?
Speaker 4 (43:28):
I almost Yeah, we got.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
A play on it that was pretty bad. So what
are you thinking? He Mike well Everson looks at that look.
Speaker 7 (43:37):
I just think I gotta figure out this week because
I really thought that ibra Flus would have gotten that
defense corrected coming into this game. No way that I
think that they would have the amount of explosive plays
that they gave up. And I thought those explosive plays
were the demise of the Really was your under undoing?
This defense is probably on pa I don't know if
(43:59):
they are on pace. I don't know this for sure,
but on the twenty twenty scale of things, we got
to be right there numbers wise for where we were
historically bad in twenty twenty. And it just looked like
to me, when you have absolutely no hope that your
defensive front can present any pressure and it's you're not
(44:20):
seeing it from guys are completely disappearing. I'm talking about
names that you came into the season saying they're going
to affect the after Michael Parsons was really, these guys
are the guys that we can rely on gott to
step up. I didn't get it from Sam Williams. I
didn't get it. I didn't know it was okay. I
know I saw him play, but therese are guys like
(44:42):
that that I just didn't hear their names.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
Cast I saw Nase in the game. I'm like, oh wait,
what the hell just happened?
Speaker 3 (44:48):
So so Everson you looked at was should they thrown
a flag on guiding on that?
Speaker 2 (44:53):
No? They said white.
Speaker 4 (44:56):
Did the guy even look at that?
Speaker 3 (44:59):
I mean he literally it was two yards downfield technically.
Speaker 4 (45:02):
If that, if they don't get their guys opposite direction,
if they don't get their guys back healthy in the secondary,
this is going to continue. Bland's got to get back
on the field. Diggs has to be ready to play. Right,
then you can figure out who's in the slot, because
if you can put Bland in the slot and then
you just have one guy outside with Diggs, and I
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guess it's Elam, although you know he's he's had his moments,
but they you slip down, Eberflus, don't tell Digs to
slip down, right, That's what happened, and then they got
them on. I'll give Ben Johnson the credit on the
flea flicker, right, he threw it to a guy that
had touched the ball twice in two games.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Right, defense has to be where they're supposed to be.
But there is no butt.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
No, I'm saying you have to be that's you guy.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
This a team game. I learned from Pee Wee league.
Be there when it comes. You gotta be there. You
have to be here when it's a fleet. That's what
defenses are. That's why you're supposed to have these coaching
points because fleet flickers won't get you. If the safety
is not paying attention to the run and he's fifteen
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yards back, he shouldn't worry about the run. He should
worry about no one getting deeper than him until he
sees that ball across the line of scrimmage. Now that
is basic defense, guys.
Speaker 4 (46:35):
But he lined up in run defense.
Speaker 7 (46:37):
Everybody would do a fleet flicker a week. We have
a fleet flicker a week. If you had safeties play
like that all over the league.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
A cornerback, a cornerback. If your guy goes the balls,
you don't go up, you maintain, you might drift because
guess what, the ball hadn't come across the line of
scrimmage yet you don't see a running back. But yet
you're shallow. You have to be deep because you are
on the third. You were on the third. You were
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on the third b where you're supposed to be. That's
just number basic one on one defense.
Speaker 4 (47:12):
What do you think the Packers are thinking today?
Speaker 2 (47:14):
Wow?
Speaker 7 (47:16):
Right?
Speaker 4 (47:16):
Not to move on?
Speaker 3 (47:18):
First off our picks to click yesterday bringing up both
stuff ever since? Had Kayer Elam, Yeah Hekma had dak
to Pickens got it.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
And that's that's a low.
Speaker 3 (47:32):
Bar bags had Pickens.
Speaker 4 (47:35):
Pickens was on his way.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
And I had Javonte Williams.
Speaker 4 (47:39):
He was on his way.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
I give you.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
Until I changed it to forty two Jadeveon Clownty later
in the day. You had it right and he was inactive,
but he'll be active this week. Will And to your point,
making the two and one Green Bay Packers and one
yeah are headed here thanks to the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 4 (48:04):
Man thirteen game or what a Sunday block the block
kicks left and did you see that? I saw all
four of the How do you let the same guy
block two kicks? You would think the second time. Now,
let's look for this big six five three.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
And he can run many job had one job. They
had one job.
Speaker 7 (48:30):
That's all they needed to do in the game that
they dominated, They dominated their game. They had Jalen Hurd
seeing ghosts and they.
Speaker 3 (48:40):
Up a second second time in what eight or nine months?
They've had a long.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
Guys. Man, they brought that California sunshine. What it was?
I'm like, man, were they playing in La? No? They're
not all right?
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