October 1, 2025 • 47 mins
The Cowboys head back to work, knowing they have a lot of fields to attend to, the defense, like linebacker and secondary, and the of course, Jets QB Justin Fields, the Jets second leading rusher and someone the Cowboys should know all about having faced him last season quarterbacking the Steelers.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
This is nick shot screening live on Dallascowboys dot Com
and the official Dallas Cowboys apt now Here are Bill Jones,
Hecma Harrison, Everson Walls, and Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
It's a back to work Wednesday here in the SWBC
podcast studio. Welcome on in for mix shots featuring Everson Walls,
Hey Harrison, and Mickey Spagnola. The first segment of the show,
He's gonna beil out on us here after long first segment.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
I like when you provide me the title to.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
The show back back door, there you go. All right,
it's always hard to come up.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
What was yesterday? Mondays was half and half? It was
half cup, half full, but half and half.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
It's gonna be optim.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
What was yesterday? I can't even remember yesterday?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Terrible.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
It's back to work Wednesday because it's now we're moving on,
yes sir. When New York Jets the winless New York
Jets the next opponent, I think.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
It was the lowdowns kind of we were talking about
the downs, third down, fourth down, Okay, of that the lowdown.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
We're giving you the lowdown, lowdown.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
Also, though I don't know we're quite moving on all
the way.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
You're not excited.
Speaker 6 (01:43):
About no, no, no, I mean we we talked about,
you know, linebacker playing to delve into that today.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
My rundock running back down says Jets defensive.
Speaker 6 (01:54):
Well, yeah, that that's to add on. Okay, he said
yesterday back and there was something else that running back
and running back and running back.
Speaker 7 (02:04):
I just remember what I said, Jones.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Start with start with the Miles Sanders.
Speaker 8 (02:09):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah, that's where we left off talking to jay Blue.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yeah, that's the last thing on the rundown. That's a
segment three. Louy, you drive the bus.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I just don't want us to go back to nineteen
seventy four.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Right, Okay, here's here's what.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
About.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Okay, here's what we need to do as we sort
this out. Because we only have Mickey in the first segment. Yes, okay,
then we got two more segments after Mickey, and so
it's what Mickey. Mickey wants to talk in the first
segment in the book, we're gonna be Mickey heavy. Okay,
that can be Jayden Blue. Okay, we're teasing what we
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got ahead, we got the Jayden Blue Opportunity, question Mark
Trench battle, Jets defensive Stars versus Cowboys plan. We've got
news around the league. Dylan Gabriels now the starting quarterback
in Cleveland. That's the news of this morning. Anything else
breaking around the league?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Closer the Giants.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
How about the wide receiver injuries around the league? Now
where Elak Neighbors went down and Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
That was awful, both of those awful.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Tyreek sound I did really.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Be the one, And don't want to say I was warned.
I was out of the office when and I wasn't
watching when Tyreek had his, but I was warned about it.
So I said, well, I'm not going to look at it, and.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah, yeah, I won't be looking at.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
When I heard it described as a joke, thiseman, like,
I was like, no, not a I'll take your word
for it.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Yeah, So well, Dax in twenty twenty, another really bad
My dog.
Speaker 6 (04:05):
My dog started howling when it happened because my dogs.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Like, oh no, my dad happening. Just feel like he saw.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
So it wasn't that he saw it on TV. He
just felt the room.
Speaker 7 (04:19):
He felt the room, he felt the.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Air, air room.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Anytime he's seen the trainers running out with towels in
their hand, it's not a good sign.
Speaker 9 (04:28):
There's so many injuries happening, like the Achilles injury is
something that's very common these days. I don't know if
you guys have the same injury back in your day,
but it seems like.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
You talk about Achilles.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Got it? Please? Please?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Yeah, we just we just filled up the first second
he'll show you to go back to Vicky falling off
his bicycle.
Speaker 7 (04:50):
Here, let's see the scars.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Injuries.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
That's the Achilles heel of our show.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
He's disgusting Achilles heels all I know.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
And I see a guy walk off and he didn't
get hit, and it's like you already know as.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Soon as you saw Drake greenlago off the sidewine, I
did that.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Yeah, I absolutely recognize it.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
We've stalled and giving enough time to talk about.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
You know what.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
I heard discussions and you know, and I shouldn't listen
to talk radio.
Speaker 7 (05:26):
But you're on talk right.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
So I heard one person and I was thinking about this,
how half full half empty? That somebody said, well the
Cowboys could really be zero and four And I'm going, okay,
but they could be three and one, and it's like,
how do you want to look at it, because both
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of them are you know, you could have lost the
two overtime games for sure, but you could have won
one of them and you could have won that season
opener because you had the ball with a chance to
take the lead in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
So that is definitely a glass. That's a glass overflowing.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
So I'm thinking one, two and one probably accurate.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
Well, my thing about this season is, as I hopefully
predict correctly, we'll do better at the end of the season.
And yes, I understand that we have a stretch that
is the most powerful stretch in scheduling history. I understand that,
But I don't look for us scoring more points. I
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look for our defense to finally improve somewhere down the
line between now and November.
Speaker 7 (06:46):
That's you would hope, That's what I mean.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
It has to happen, right, it has to happen. I mean,
if we have a coach here that was a head
coach and it's considered to have defensive prowess and for
his team to be underperforming at this point, I would
think it's way overdue. And I think for someone like him,
with the legacy that he has.
Speaker 7 (07:12):
We've got to get this together.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
Because the system has been it's been profitable for Chicago Bears.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
When he was there.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
They didn't have a good offense, but they damn sure
had a good defense. They weren't giving up forty points
a game. Yeah, So we could just get to that
point to where we're a solid defense, our offense can control,
can control our destiny.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Yeah, maybe just okay or good.
Speaker 9 (07:38):
It's still early in the season, and so that's why
you have that optimism. If we would have done predictions
as a show, I would have at this point. I
think I had to said it right about two and
two if we were three, If we would have been
three and three and one, I would have been a
little afraid for us, if you know, maybe fake optimism
going into the rest of the sea.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
A lot of that here.
Speaker 9 (07:59):
Still yeah, still, but I think I'm with you, Mickey,
when it could have gone either way as far as
the Philly game, and especially the last game that we
played not ending up in a tie.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
But man, at this point in the season that coaches speak.
Speaker 9 (08:12):
Boy gets so loud, and God starts saying the same thing,
and I can hear it.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Now, we just got to put it together. We just
gotta put it together.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
What do you think Aaron Glenn is saying in New
York right, same thing, but I.
Speaker 9 (08:28):
Mean think about the contrast from him at zero to
four and an offense that you know, they've been in
their battles, but still at certain times it is looked
like a struggle for them.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
On the other end, for the Cowboys, your offense is
bawling right now.
Speaker 9 (08:41):
You got a quarterback that is red hot right now,
and then the contrast is like we're hot, we're cold,
you know, and it's just that go together. That's why
I say, if you put it all together as a
team defensively, that optimism that you're talking about, I think
it fixes everything.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
I mean, as you said, they're a second away from
two to two, right so.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
You know what they are saying on Mixed shots and
Jets Land Jets shots, they're saying they could be three
and one right now. They've been looking at they they
lost to Pittsburgh and the opener. They lost to Pittsburgh
and the opener thirty four to thirty two, and then
they got blown out by Buffalo thirty to ten at
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Tampa Bay twenty nine, twenty seven. Remember what happened in
that game? They were ahead and Baker Mayfield brought them
down the field for one game winning field goal. Yep, Okay.
Then last week at Miami, Braylan Allen beginning of the game,
he's he's basically landing in the end zone and fumbles
before he gets there. They had three turnovers and they
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thirteen penalties. I mean, it's their own fault, you know.
But it was a twenty seven to twenty one game.
I mean the touchdown was late, right, Yeah, they get
it closer?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Was that the forty two yard.
Speaker 7 (09:59):
But they they have a block field goal.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
They got to be sitting there going okay. They could
be saying the same thing. Instead of owing four or three,
they could be three and one.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
I can see that.
Speaker 7 (10:10):
I can see that. I didn't want to see it,
but I can see that.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
They're zero and four for the first time since twenty twenty.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
I see. These are the teams that make me nervous.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
This is it? Well, yeah, because they're gonna win one
on the Chicago.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
They're gonna wine, you know what I mean, They're not
gonna lose them all. At some point it's gonna fall
on their lap. Just don't want it to be you.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
Well, and if you go into if you go into
a game on the road with a hell of an
offense and a weak defense, then you can look forward
to that defense failing you in the end.
Speaker 9 (10:42):
Your strengths, your strengths are kind of huler opposite from
one another, because their defense, I would say at this point,
would be one of their strengths. Although you talk about
the points that they've given up, it because the offense.
The offense hadn't done them any favors at all. But
if y'all hadn't watched them on the all twenty two.
Quinn Williams numbing is a treat to watch.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Oh oh yeah from out back, going back to Alabama.
I remember him at Alabama. He wasn't a treat to
watch for an Oklahoma fan, even when wait, wait, one
of the best centers in football, in college football and
now in the National Football League, Creed Humphrey had his
hands full with Quinn Williams in a college football playoff game.
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And he's been that kind of player since.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Well.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
I was going to remind everybody that the Cowboys did
play justin fields last year. Yep, so they should know
about him. And as a matter of coordinator coached him
right in Chicago. And a matter of fact, Fields through
a touchdown pass with four fifty six to go, and
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Pittsburgh was up seventeen thirteen, and the Cowboys scored the
winning touchdown with twenty seconds to go. Dak throws to
Balen Tolbert and they win seventeen.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
And I got reminded that in that game.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Tolbert had seven catches for eighty seven yards in a touchdown,
and that was the guy everybody wanted to dismiss.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah, he's got nine lives, man, he has none.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
He just kind of shows up.
Speaker 7 (12:18):
I'm starting to soft him.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
It's like, don't forget about me.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
Yeah, right, and so uh And in that game, Fields
was fifteen of twenty seven, only one hundred and thirty
one yards, got sacked three times, but he threw two
touchdown passes.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Uh. That was that was a nice win.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
They limited.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Oh that was a good. Yeah, that was nice.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
And they got to them with their own way of
playing ball.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
And that was Pittsburgh got to three and two. He won.
The next game, they got to four.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
And two, and then they yanked him and Russell Wilson
took over the rest way. Oh, and they had that
winning streak they did until they lost the last four
games of the year.
Speaker 9 (13:02):
And in this game, I want to see Sauce Gardener,
you know, by Sauce Gardener rangy corner.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
He's complaining, complaining because he thinks he's getting bad calls
because he plays for the Jets and they're got a
losing records.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
So I heard, you know, I heard picking up.
Speaker 9 (13:19):
I heard that, and I felt like he he's on
a bad team and bad teams ain't gonna come on out.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
They don't get a call.
Speaker 9 (13:28):
Yeah, bad teams. I'm just saying, right, so it's legitimate.
It's just oh and four and they're not going to
get the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
And I know you don't as a dB, I don't,
but but I don't want to hear.
Speaker 9 (13:40):
On the other side, he's got to match up this
weekend with George Pickens.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
I was out there with a referee. I knew his name.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
So you don't want to be too close to to
referees because they feel like they can call it on
you without repercussion, because I mean you and you and
I talked you know before the game, after game, doing
the game, saying little words here and there.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Ever since a nice guy, Yeah yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
Okay, yeah yeah, and that he got a little bit
too comfortable, big al. He got a little bit too
comfortable with throwing flags on me. So now I don't
want to hear it. He got nothing to do with
the team.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
And by the way it is, in that game against
the Cowboys, George Pickens had three catches for twenty six yards.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
He should never finish in game three catches for.
Speaker 9 (14:23):
No and he can't finish, He can't finish that we
were not here, happen here. No, that's that's not the
stat that you want to hear. But I'm looking forward
to this matchup because you got good on good. Anytime
you get that, I think that's that's what people love
on Sunday. And defensive line wise, Quinn Williams, do.
Speaker 7 (14:43):
They do they follow? Does he follow the best receiver?
Speaker 9 (14:45):
He hadn't, But in this situation, I don't see why
he wouldn't. That's what that's what you that's what you
play the game.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
Sometimes it messes up the integrity of your defense. Sometimes
I don't know what there is if you're following Yeah,
we couldn't really do that with the flex because the
flex flex. Now maybe on third down, on third downs,
I remember following Keith Jackson on third downs some of
the another your boy Oklahoma, Okay, Oklahoma. And so yeah,
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it depends on especially on first and second down rundowns.
You want to keep the interview of the defense. I
think if they're playings on versus anything else.
Speaker 9 (15:27):
Now, that's the one thing that I'm coming into this
game saying, run the damn ball.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Run the ball.
Speaker 9 (15:33):
Make it easy on yourself because this is a team
that that offense is you know, no good. And unless
you keep those guys you know out on the field
making mistakes, man, your offense can be taking advantage of
this defense.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
I think we should well. I think it would be
worse to let him run. I would rather he passed
the ball.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Oh yeah, keep triggered by the official that big Al.
Yeah you remember, remember had a big oul because Big
Al called tell me more about big Al. What do
you know about it?
Speaker 7 (16:03):
I know he wear OL's last name, but he did
he wear goggles? No? No he didn't.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Okay, I looked up somebody. I did an ai sir, Yeah,
Al jury who was a back judge in the NFL,
then switched the field judge after the league in nineteeny eight,
So it was a back judge when you were playing.
I just wore prescription goggles. He was also a California
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Highway Patrol officer.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
I can see that. Maybe him jury, Yeah, maybe him.
I'm thinking he was Everything was funny.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
He was selected to officiate. Okay, how many super Bowls
did you go to?
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Ever? So I just went to one.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
He went to five super Bowls.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
Maybe that's why he feels like he has the elector to
do what the hell he.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Wanted, record tying five super Bowls. He was an official
from nineteen seventy eight to two two thousand and three.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I would be there.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
I bet it is.
Speaker 7 (17:02):
I bet that's him.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
I recognize the name less garden. It feels the same
way about referees right now.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
They lost, Uh, they may have lost their nickel corner
Michael Carter. He's in concussion, so we'll see what happens there.
And they did lose their backup running back Braylen Allen.
He's got a he's on IR with a torn.
Speaker 7 (17:23):
He was pretty good.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I like you.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Yeah, he was a big green notebook guy. Yeah, I
like him a lot. He's very young.
Speaker 7 (17:29):
Yeah, buddy, so who's the fact.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
I was watching the game the other night. I was
selling the guy in our office. I really liked his
brailen out. In the next play, footbles right on top
and then like five minutes later he hurts his leg
just a death.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Briesce halls their leading guy, right Iowa State? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yeah, so actually their leading rusher is Justin just Fields. Yeah,
he may not be their leading rusher. By the last game,
he had eighty one yards on seven carries. Have the
Cowboys had any problems with quarterbacks that get out and
just run.
Speaker 9 (18:04):
Just a little bit, just a little bit, and playing
zone the way we do. Yeah, I think quarterbacks have
had some success justin fields. That's what you got to limit.
And that's what I can remember from that game. Remember
playing him when he was with Chicago and we played
on at and t him running the ball. Mike Michael
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made a hell of a player in that game. But
I have it's gone now, It's all over now, guys,
I'm just.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
Saying, guess who leads the Jets in rushing touchdown?
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Who is that?
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Justin Fields?
Speaker 5 (18:37):
So three, he's got twenty four carries for one hundred
and seventy eight yards.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
And that's just in three games. He didn't play against
Tampa Bay.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Right, that's somewhere now.
Speaker 6 (18:46):
Now, when you when you have a running quarterback, if
you're a defensive coordinator, you're going to be thinking about
playing a little bit more zone simply because you don't
want to open things up in the secondary. Why wide
receivers running all over the place opening up the middle
of the so that the quarterback can scramble. But we
gave up in Chicago a lot of yards to the
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quarterback in a zone. When you play a zone.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
You're supposed to be looking at the quarter supposed to.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
Be looking at the quarterback, and he still was able to.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
You know, all went back and looked at some of that.
But they took advantage on that nineteen yard nineteen play drive.
You could tell they really took advantage on the quarterback runs,
which are big plays on that drive of what was
as Iroku and it might have been foul. Another one
where a defensive end as Iraku made two plays in
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a row where he just he just bit down on
an inside run and made a tackle for lost whatever,
and it was like, Okay, he's going to do that.
Then it was like zone read out first down with
Caleb Williams, and so a lot of.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
That with those I can understand.
Speaker 6 (19:59):
But when the it comes to a pass play where
it's a broken, broken play to where he couldn't find
anyone and then he takes off and no one sees
him for fifteen yards, that's what the zone coverage is for,
and they obviously they have to work on that. They
guys like Jalen Hurts, guys like fields, they don't just
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study the defense down the field. They're looking at the
rush itself and they manipulate it. So you know immediately
if you see as a rocker or whoever coming on
the outside, the first thing they're gonna think is okay,
I have a gap here, I can take advantage out
and still look downfield.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
And happens all the time with mobile quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
See and I don't know that they've got a linebacker
that could run with a quarterback that's mobile. Lea foul maybe,
but the other guys they ain't running with a quarternoon.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Somebody said, well you got a spy, Well you need
a spy that can spy.
Speaker 7 (20:54):
Yeah, well, you're gonna have to get it.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
That's why you gotta get a nickel sometimes, right, yeah,
you gotta get a nickel and you get a big
guy in there that can't run well a safety bring
a safety down down on whoever or like overshown right, Sorry, yes,
but you know you want someone who's agile enough and
smart enough and poison enough to know what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
You have one final mix shot. It's twelve twenty one.
You said you wanted to get out of here at
twelve twenty.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
I did have one more hangout.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Okay, it's over here. I think.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
How about did we talk We did talk Dath yesterday.
Didn't we a little bit bit what his stats were?
Speaker 2 (21:37):
We can talk aboutsketball?
Speaker 5 (21:39):
Just absolutely incredible at this point.
Speaker 7 (21:41):
What is he doing.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
Number one in completions in the NFL, number one in attempts,
number one in passing yards. He's second in touchdowns with six,
the lead is seven, and he's third in completion percentage
seventy two points nine percent. Anything over sixty five is
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damn good. And he's over seventy, so uh yeah, he's playing.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
And that Having said that, you would think that he
would be doing this all on his own.
Speaker 7 (22:16):
But when you have a running.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Game to go with actly exactly, that.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
Really lets you know how good our offensive output is
on the average.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
And with a beat up offensive line, no good.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Stuff and he but you know what's the yards per attempt?
It's just six point seven?
Speaker 6 (22:36):
Yeah, that's that's cause of Fergus.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (22:41):
Right, But do you have thirty in his career? Guards
just to get put that in perspective. We put that
in perspective his in his career, he's seven point five
yards per attempt?
Speaker 3 (22:55):
You like that? Eight point zero yards per attempt?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yes? What you like?
Speaker 3 (22:58):
You sure do so anyway, Okay, okay, okay, okay, go
do whatever you gotta do.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Mickey, Let's hope it turns out as well.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Brian Shotney or press conference coming up at twelve thirty,
will keep you posted on what he has to show.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
I'll listen to it.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
It's not about you anymore, Mickey.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Sorry, we're talking.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
I'll call if you something Jaden.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Blue when we come back. You're on what U shots?
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Shots?
Speaker 7 (23:28):
Just shot shots?
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Goodness, you want to start running backs?
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Running backs? You can't wait to get that Jayden Blue
on outfield man?
Speaker 2 (26:46):
What you know, well, I don't think. I don't.
Speaker 9 (26:48):
What I don't know is is who they're gonna play.
If it's gonna be Moules Sanders who went out with
believe it's the ankle injuries U lower lower extremity injury.
But I have been waiting to see Blue. You draft
him in the late rounds. I've been able to see
what he could do because just following University of Texas
football and see how impactful he is.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Javonte Williams.
Speaker 9 (27:10):
And I'm not looking for him because I think that
Javonte Williams Isn't that I think Javonte Williams is a
hell of a running back, and it's surprised for me
when they signed him in the off season, I was like, guys,
wait a minute, we need a running back if you're
gonna let go of ric o'daldo all of these guys
that we've had come through to here to please Okay,
(27:32):
I mean we've had Pollard. We need to get Dak
the running back that's able to give him the production
that we see now, to make him the quarterback that
we see that he is now, but having that change
of pace as you've seen with other teams being able
to take advantage of that changing pace running back, I
think to Javonte Williams, really, I think you're still underutilizing
(27:53):
Javonte Williams. I think eighteen carriage is not enough. I
think he needs more like twenty five. And when I
saw Ales Sanders go out and they gave Hunter Lifky,
even though I've been waiting on a hundred lity sighting,
I was like, man, give that ball to Javonte Williams
because of the production that he's been giving you. So look,
I'm just I think you get a running back that
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is a bruiser, a finisher, but I also want to
see the change of pace to him being somebody that's
more crafty, more shifty, and more elusive. And I think
Blue is going to give you that, and I'm ready
to see it.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
You know, with Javonte, I understand what you're saying, giving
the ball more. I think really the only game where
I can say we needed to give the ball more
to and was in the Chicago. Yes, I thought that
was the game where he should have carried it twenty
twenty five times to take the load off of our
offense and our defense who was on the field way
(28:47):
too much.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
So if he was on pace to do that, and
then the game got away from and the game got
a nineteen play drive at right and even all of
a sudden, that's fourth quarter and you're down seventeen points.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
But even with the even with the fumble, I thought
he had a good game in Chicago. And as far
as I'm concerned, Bill, I didn't think the clock was
running out too fast to where we still could have
given it to Hi when we were down seventeen. I mean,
I thought it still would have allowed us to get
a rhythm going.
Speaker 7 (29:15):
I think Dak would have been able to perform.
Speaker 6 (29:18):
Better if we would have kept running Javonte even after
the seventeen down.
Speaker 9 (29:23):
That's just my opinion, and I'm not second guessing coach
shot Nhaumer in that decision, but I'm with you when Hey,
you down seventeen, run the ball. At least that way,
you're not taking Dak off the field, you're not being predictable.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Well, here's what happened on that Okay, Cowboys got the
ball back there, down thirty one to fourteen, got it
back with nine seconds left in the third quarter, and
so they went tempo and three straight completions. They're facing
third and two at the Chicago thirty one. They get
a penalty a hold on steal that pushed them back
(29:58):
on the pass play yep, and then there was a
penalty illegal contact. Got a first down at the Chicago
thirty six, through the past to pickings and it went
off pickings picked off by Tremaine Edmunds, and so they
were matriculating by throwing, okay, and then it was just
(30:18):
a drop that carramed off of picking hands and the
Tremaine Edmunds. And now you're getting the ball back the
next time with eight minutes left in the game, down seventeen.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
If you if you go back to before the three
straight completions. You're much more likely to get a holding
call on the passing plate than you're on the running right,
and so running, being able to run the ball helps
you eliminate.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Especially especially down seventeen, because they're pinning their ears back
coming out right.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
They're coming back, They're coming at you right, and so
you know, slip Javonte in there every once in a while,
which we had been doing successfully the entire game. I
think it just it gives your offense. What does an
offensive line would like to do?
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Right? They run block.
Speaker 6 (31:06):
I mean they don't mind, you know, protecting the quarterback.
They love that too. But man, when they really want to.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Show what they're worth, they want to get out there.
Speaker 7 (31:13):
They want to get out there and go forward.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
That we should have started the game with that three
straight completions. That's fine, But now you still look at
what Everson.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
What would we have talked about in the first segment
if Javonte Williams carried the ball a lot in that game,
because Dak would not be leading the league in passing
yards and Mickey wouldn't have had anything to talk about.
Speaker 6 (31:33):
Well, one thing you have here is a bunch of
a bunch of Dak fans. But Dak will tell you
stats are one thing. Wins are totally to a whole
other thing.
Speaker 9 (31:44):
Yeah, and you have an offense right now that really
is firing on all cylinders. And I think the game
plan going against Green Bay, because come on.
Speaker 7 (31:52):
Guys, face it.
Speaker 9 (31:54):
You had your hope or optimism in that game surrounding
that defense was they're going to choke us out, you know,
with the athletes that they have on the front line,
and you saw that game plan. If we're gonna run
right at them, make them adjust to us and the
pressure that we're putting on them. They never had an
answer for Javonte Williams. They never had an answer for
the gash plays that he kept presenting. And I think
(32:16):
look combined with that going into this Jets game, because look,
I really respect this defense for the Jets, and I
think Aaron Glenn has the potential to turn this thing
around based off of who they have upfront. I mean
we're talking about guys like Jalen Carter, Quinn Williams is
another test for our offensive line in the interior. But
(32:36):
if we can run the ball, that changes everything. Yeah,
that changes everything, and it makes them adjust to us.
So that game plan I think works better than anything.
And now we have that piece in Javonte Williams that
we can come in there and use. And oh, by
the way, if we need to rest him for a spell,
we can bring another guy in A's eve just as
qualified and can have that big play potential just like him.
Speaker 7 (32:58):
We've got.
Speaker 6 (33:00):
And the Jets to me, similar teams, so much potential,
but they're not playing up to it.
Speaker 8 (33:06):
No.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
You know.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
The thing on Jaden Blue though, is and with any
rookie running back is I would say temper your enthusiasm
a little bit on it, just from the standpoint of
he's a rookie, and there's so much that goes into it,
as far as even coaches trusting rookies to even put
them on the field, which he has not been. Yep,
(33:29):
that's right. And even when you look at his time
at Texas, you go back and look at his history
when he came out of high school, they didn't play
a senior year of high school. He's got his academics
in order. Okay, he goes to Texas, Bjean would has
still been there I think in twenty two, which is
his rook His freshman year there, he only had fifteen
carries that year. The next year they had CJ. Baxter
(33:52):
or was it last year? I guess last year c J.
Baxter number one running back in the country, and by
deep he got hurt in pre season and by deep fault,
Jayden became a guy. So his second year there he
only had sixty five carries. So finally, last year is
when he got the opportunity at Texas, had one hundred
and thirty four carries, seven hundred and thirty yards, eight touchdowns.
Also caught the ball forty two times, six more touchdowns.
Speaker 6 (34:16):
So that's that's his strength right there, right right.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
And so what you're planning on using him is that
is as that as you say the change up to
Javante and he does bring that juice, the four three
eight speed, but it's just a question of with and
you look around the league, a lot of running backs
that were drafted higher than him are having a hard
(34:40):
time getting on the field. Right now, it's going to
come because running backs get hurt and basically what happened here.
Sanders is nicked up, and so it looks like Jaden
might get his opportunity this week.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
We'll see. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (34:52):
I guess my optimism comes from seeing guys like Bucky
Irvin for Tampa, you know, be so successful late gip.
Maybe I don't know exact actly worry, but I don't.
I know he was.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
I think it was a late round pick and he's
fourth round.
Speaker 9 (35:03):
Okay, But either way, you know, a late round pick
and a guy that a team really doesn't have a
whole lot of expectation on but comes in and is
a pleasant surprise to you. Talk about him being a
receiver out of the backfield. What is Dak doing right now?
Being able to survey change plays at the line of
scrimmage and check down. Now instead of checking down to
your favorite receiver Jake Ferguson, you can check down to blue.
Speaker 7 (35:27):
Light with some speed.
Speaker 9 (35:28):
Come on, That's all you're asking for in those situations.
And I think that's a great convenience. Not that Javonte
Williams can't do it, because he can and the numbers
say that he absolutely can. I just I just feel
like we have something special in him. I've been watching
this kid ever since he was someoney, somebody that was
never the He might have been the third running back
(35:49):
at a certain point at Texas, but when guys got
hurt and he got his opportunity, he took advantage of it.
Speaker 6 (35:56):
Well, now he needs to do that here because at
this point there's no true us. And that was voiced
by the coach specifically. You know, he didn't want to
say it. You know, read it between the lines.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
It was easy to.
Speaker 6 (36:09):
Read between these lives, and so you know that that's unfortunate.
And I don't want I don't want him coming out
there with that kind of self imposed pressure on himself.
Speaker 7 (36:19):
And so I don't know it. I'm hoping that, you know, Shatty.
Speaker 6 (36:23):
I'm sure Shotty's come up to him and give him
pat on the back and give him some confidence.
Speaker 7 (36:27):
But for him to have to even come out that
was kind of harsh.
Speaker 6 (36:31):
For someone like Shaddy to say those words, that's his
way of, you know, getting on somebody's case.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
And I'm glad you cited Bucky Irving on it because
I was able to look up.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Bucky Irving started his career at Minnesota and then transferred
to Oregon. Played at Oregon for two years and he
basically started for three years in college and he had
four hundred and seventy five carries in college and it
was two hundred and fourteen carries for Jayden. So just
as far as experience goes, yeah, we've got great expectations
(37:03):
for Jaden Blue. The only reason I say temporary your
enthusiasm right now is because he doesn't have that experience.
I mean, how long even you go back, go back
to the seventies, how long did it take before Tom
Landry trusted Tony Dorsett being on there? I mean he
didn't start for the first half of his rookie season
and he was a Heisman Trophy winner.
Speaker 6 (37:23):
Coming and he was very vocal too, which is very
unusual for Dwayne Thomas well a player to come out
against Tom Langic. But now that Tony wasn't having any
of that, and eventually, you know Tom, I think Tom
when he did it, he wanted to know. He wants
to see what your reaction is. You know, how are
(37:43):
you going to take this sitting down?
Speaker 8 (37:46):
All?
Speaker 2 (37:46):
You're going to take this sitting down?
Speaker 6 (37:47):
And Dorset did not, and I bet I gave him
a a little bit of a confidence Indoorset and Bet
As far.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
As this situation, I think that is the main reason
why they doubled up on veteran running backs. They knew
they were going to take a running back in the draft,
but they weren't going to because they weren't going to
get gent Okay, they weren't going to take one on
the first or second day, and so they took one
on the third day. And like, Miles Sanders, is your
bridge to Jayden Blue? Now we'll see and maybe Jadon
(38:17):
o'l you know, ball out.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
And Bill Bill.
Speaker 9 (38:20):
All I'm talking about is the last two seasons as
a Cowboy fan and the spectator of the sport and
watching the Cowboys struggle with the running game, leave games
where they've only had forty six yards rushing and you
realize that the quarterback, the backup quarterback, no one can
be successful if you don't produce a running game.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Looking for trying to find a replacement for Tony Pollard.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Yes, you know, yes, and I'm talking about that's what that's.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
What Jayden Blue has the potential of being Tony Pollard.
Speaker 9 (38:48):
And the kind of production that Tony Pollard gave you
when he was paired with Zeke that was so much
different from what you were getting. And that's and that's
what I'm asking for in this situation, because think of
how much better you can be. Miles Sanders was supposed
to present that, and I'm not saying that he hasn't
in total, I'm just saying, you got a younger guy
out here that has that potential.
Speaker 6 (39:07):
Or potential use him because of his speed.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Use him.
Speaker 6 (39:10):
And I do like Sanders, There's no doubt the bad.
I love his I love his game, I love his number,
I love everything about him. But if you can give me,
if you can show me that Blue can come out
and instead of getting twelve yards, we can get twenty five.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Okay, And when we come back here on mixed Shots,
I get I get a little comparison with Tony Pollard's
numbers coming out of costumes. That'll be interesting in regards
to Jayden, Blue WoT Shots continues in a moment.
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Speaker 3 (42:08):
Okay, continuing this little comparison that we brought up about
Jaden Blue and Tony Pollard. Tony Pollard coming out of Memphis.
Darryl Henderson was their main back at Memphis in twenty eighteen,
he ran for nearly two thousand yards. Pollard, in his
last year at Memphis, only had seventy eight carries for
(42:28):
five hundred and fifty two yards and six touchdowns, caught
the ball thirty thirty nine catches, and he basically did
that all three years he was Memphis, around thirty five
catches a year, Okay, So then take that Ford and
Jayden Blue. So he had a total of one hundred
and thirty nine carries in college. Pollard did Jayden Blue,
two hundred and fourteen carries in Texas, okay, and Jayden Blue,
(42:51):
as we showed last year at Texas, caught the ball
a lot out of the backfieldings at six receiving touchdowns.
All right, take it forward now. Pollard his rookie year
with the Cowboys twenty nineteen, played in fifteen games, no starts,
eighty six carries, four hundred and fifty five yards, fifteen
receptions one hundred and seven yards. It took time for
(43:13):
them to trust Tony Pollard too, and even his second
year he only had one hundred and one carries. And
so finally it was his fourth year in the league
when he went to the Pro Bowl in twenty twenty two.
But it's just it's yeah, and you could see the
juice that he had. But still with veteran he had
Zeke on the roster. I can't remember who else was
(43:36):
running back on the roster then with the Cowboys in
twenty nineteen. But anyway, it takes time for the rookie
a fourth round, which what Pollard was fifth round or
what blue is for them to get on the field.
Speaker 6 (43:48):
What you have with Blue is I like to call
them long long handoff. Situations may not necessarily give him
the ball in the backfield, but you know, when you've
got Turping lined up on this side, you take Turping
down the field and you flur out Blue and just
get it to him immediately. You can gas people for six, seven,
(44:09):
maybe even more yards at a time. That kind of
stuff can help you pick up your pace, especially when
we go no huddle and you know we might be behind.
I think it just gives us a whole lot more
options and more speed, which is something we need right now,
especially with CD out for a while. I think it's
really important for him to step up now with CD
(44:30):
being gone.
Speaker 9 (44:31):
This may not sound like a Javonte Williams appreciation podcast
because we're talking.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
About it's just getting that sick.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (44:39):
I just feel like when I'm watching Cowboys football now
and I see thirty three in the backfield. It's a
different feeling. On third down, it's a different feeling seeing him.
When you need that possession, you know that he can
get it there. When you get down in the goal line,
you can.
Speaker 7 (44:53):
Go thirty three and have confidence that you can get
that third and three with a run.
Speaker 9 (44:58):
And those were realities that you didn't have before. So
I absolutely love everything that Williams brings to us as
a running back, and I think right now, coming into
this matchup versus Jets, he should have a huge game,
as should guys like Jalen Tobert, as should guys like
Floor Noid guys like that because they can take advantage
(45:19):
of their matchups. Because of what George Pickens showed last week.
Speaker 6 (45:24):
I am worried about our receivers coming up against a
secondary that is known for a man to man Sauce
Garden is known for being a good cover man making
plays on the ball.
Speaker 7 (45:37):
Like you said, a long dB.
Speaker 6 (45:40):
If I were the Jets, I'm going to pressure my
wide receivers, the cowboy wide receivers every down because see
these out double up pickings over here. Now, I want
to see what you guys can do. First of all,
y'all are undersized. You're undersized, So I'm going to pressure
you the whole game. I'm going to be in your
face the whole game. Give me pause. If I'm Dak Prescott,
(46:02):
you send a little pressure. Here comes your boy Williams right,
and all of a sudden you're looking at tight windows
to have to throw through. That's what happened in Chicago.
We didn't we didn't stick to the game plan. Interception
off the hands of Pickings. Things can go badly on
the road bill It does all the time. That's what
(46:24):
concerns me about this is them putting the pressure and
having us pay play at their tempo, which usually works
against the Cowboys on the road.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
And you look at the mindset of the Jets circum
this is the first three straight home games for them.
They got Dallas this week, Denver next week, and then Carolina,
and if they can get this one, then especially with
Carolina lurking, they can get back.
Speaker 6 (46:50):
If you don't know that the Cowboys are the most
hated team on the road, then you'll find out.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
What was the last time. The last time Cowboys went
to New York to play the Jet. It's twenty nineteen,
ugly game twenty four to twenty two loss.
Speaker 9 (47:06):
Yeah, it's been a while, but you go to met
Life with the number one tight end in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Send us out here, Bill.
Speaker 3 (47:13):
All right, all right, and uh hec ma, you're gonna
be running the show to be tomorrow. I got, I got,
I got a warning air warning right there, and we
will shout at you again tomorrow at high noon. Here
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Hey Harrison, and Mickey Spagnola. The first segment of the show,
He's gonna beil out on us here after long first segment.
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Speaker 5 (00:54):
The show back back door, there you go. All right,
it's always hard to come up.
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What was yesterday? Mondays was half and half? It was
half cup, half full, but half and half.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
It's gonna be optim.
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What was yesterday? I can't even remember yesterday?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Terrible.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
It's back to work Wednesday because it's now we're moving on,
yes sir. When New York Jets the winless New York
Jets the next opponent, I think.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
It was the lowdowns kind of we were talking about
the downs, third down, fourth down, Okay, of that the lowdown.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
We're giving you the lowdown, lowdown.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
Also, though I don't know we're quite moving on all
the way.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
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Speaker 6 (01:43):
About no, no, no, I mean we we talked about,
you know, linebacker playing to delve into that today.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
My rundock running back down says Jets defensive.
Speaker 6 (01:54):
Well, yeah, that that's to add on. Okay, he said
yesterday back and there was something else that running back
and running back and running back.
Speaker 7 (02:04):
I just remember what I said, Jones.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Start with start with the Miles Sanders.
Speaker 8 (02:09):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah, that's where we left off talking to jay Blue.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yeah, that's the last thing on the rundown. That's a
segment three. Louy, you drive the bus.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I just don't want us to go back to nineteen
seventy four.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Right, Okay, here's here's what.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
About.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Okay, here's what we need to do as we sort
this out. Because we only have Mickey in the first segment. Yes, okay,
then we got two more segments after Mickey, and so
it's what Mickey. Mickey wants to talk in the first
segment in the book, we're gonna be Mickey heavy. Okay,
that can be Jayden Blue. Okay, we're teasing what we
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got ahead, we got the Jayden Blue Opportunity, question Mark
Trench battle, Jets defensive Stars versus Cowboys plan. We've got
news around the league. Dylan Gabriels now the starting quarterback
in Cleveland. That's the news of this morning. Anything else
breaking around the league?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Closer the Giants.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
How about the wide receiver injuries around the league? Now
where Elak Neighbors went down and Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
That was awful, both of those awful.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Tyreek sound I did really.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Be the one, And don't want to say I was warned.
I was out of the office when and I wasn't
watching when Tyreek had his, but I was warned about it.
So I said, well, I'm not going to look at it, and.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah, yeah, I won't be looking at.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
When I heard it described as a joke, thiseman, like,
I was like, no, not a I'll take your word
for it.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Yeah, So well, Dax in twenty twenty, another really bad
My dog.
Speaker 6 (04:05):
My dog started howling when it happened because my dogs.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Like, oh no, my dad happening. Just feel like he saw.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
So it wasn't that he saw it on TV. He
just felt the room.
Speaker 7 (04:19):
He felt the room, he felt the.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Air, air room.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Anytime he's seen the trainers running out with towels in
their hand, it's not a good sign.
Speaker 9 (04:28):
There's so many injuries happening, like the Achilles injury is
something that's very common these days. I don't know if
you guys have the same injury back in your day,
but it seems like.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
You talk about Achilles.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Got it? Please? Please?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Yeah, we just we just filled up the first second
he'll show you to go back to Vicky falling off
his bicycle.
Speaker 7 (04:50):
Here, let's see the scars.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Injuries.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
That's the Achilles heel of our show.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
He's disgusting Achilles heels all I know.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
And I see a guy walk off and he didn't
get hit, and it's like you already know as.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Soon as you saw Drake greenlago off the sidewine, I
did that.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Yeah, I absolutely recognize it.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
We've stalled and giving enough time to talk about.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
You know what.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
I heard discussions and you know, and I shouldn't listen
to talk radio.
Speaker 7 (05:26):
But you're on talk right.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
So I heard one person and I was thinking about this,
how half full half empty? That somebody said, well the
Cowboys could really be zero and four And I'm going, okay,
but they could be three and one, and it's like,
how do you want to look at it, because both
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of them are you know, you could have lost the
two overtime games for sure, but you could have won
one of them and you could have won that season
opener because you had the ball with a chance to
take the lead in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
So that is definitely a glass. That's a glass overflowing.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
So I'm thinking one, two and one probably accurate.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
Well, my thing about this season is, as I hopefully
predict correctly, we'll do better at the end of the season.
And yes, I understand that we have a stretch that
is the most powerful stretch in scheduling history. I understand that,
But I don't look for us scoring more points. I
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look for our defense to finally improve somewhere down the
line between now and November.
Speaker 7 (06:46):
That's you would hope, That's what I mean.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
It has to happen, right, it has to happen. I mean,
if we have a coach here that was a head
coach and it's considered to have defensive prowess and for
his team to be underperforming at this point, I would
think it's way overdue. And I think for someone like him,
with the legacy that he has.
Speaker 7 (07:12):
We've got to get this together.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
Because the system has been it's been profitable for Chicago Bears.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
When he was there.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
They didn't have a good offense, but they damn sure
had a good defense. They weren't giving up forty points
a game. Yeah, So we could just get to that
point to where we're a solid defense, our offense can control,
can control our destiny.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Yeah, maybe just okay or good.
Speaker 9 (07:38):
It's still early in the season, and so that's why
you have that optimism. If we would have done predictions
as a show, I would have at this point. I
think I had to said it right about two and
two if we were three, If we would have been
three and three and one, I would have been a
little afraid for us, if you know, maybe fake optimism
going into the rest of the sea.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
A lot of that here.
Speaker 9 (07:59):
Still yeah, still, but I think I'm with you, Mickey,
when it could have gone either way as far as
the Philly game, and especially the last game that we
played not ending up in a tie.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
But man, at this point in the season that coaches speak.
Speaker 9 (08:12):
Boy gets so loud, and God starts saying the same thing,
and I can hear it.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Now, we just got to put it together. We just
gotta put it together.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
What do you think Aaron Glenn is saying in New
York right, same thing, but I.
Speaker 9 (08:28):
Mean think about the contrast from him at zero to
four and an offense that you know, they've been in
their battles, but still at certain times it is looked
like a struggle for them.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
On the other end, for the Cowboys, your offense is
bawling right now.
Speaker 9 (08:41):
You got a quarterback that is red hot right now,
and then the contrast is like we're hot, we're cold,
you know, and it's just that go together. That's why
I say, if you put it all together as a
team defensively, that optimism that you're talking about, I think
it fixes everything.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
I mean, as you said, they're a second away from
two to two, right so.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
You know what they are saying on Mixed shots and
Jets Land Jets shots, they're saying they could be three
and one right now. They've been looking at they they
lost to Pittsburgh and the opener. They lost to Pittsburgh
and the opener thirty four to thirty two, and then
they got blown out by Buffalo thirty to ten at
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Tampa Bay twenty nine, twenty seven. Remember what happened in
that game? They were ahead and Baker Mayfield brought them
down the field for one game winning field goal. Yep, Okay.
Then last week at Miami, Braylan Allen beginning of the game,
he's he's basically landing in the end zone and fumbles
before he gets there. They had three turnovers and they
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thirteen penalties. I mean, it's their own fault, you know.
But it was a twenty seven to twenty one game.
I mean the touchdown was late, right, Yeah, they get
it closer?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Was that the forty two yard.
Speaker 7 (09:59):
But they they have a block field goal.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
They got to be sitting there going okay. They could
be saying the same thing. Instead of owing four or three,
they could be three and one.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
I can see that.
Speaker 7 (10:10):
I can see that. I didn't want to see it,
but I can see that.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
They're zero and four for the first time since twenty twenty.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
I see. These are the teams that make me nervous.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
This is it? Well, yeah, because they're gonna win one
on the Chicago.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
They're gonna wine, you know what I mean, They're not
gonna lose them all. At some point it's gonna fall
on their lap. Just don't want it to be you.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
Well, and if you go into if you go into
a game on the road with a hell of an
offense and a weak defense, then you can look forward
to that defense failing you in the end.
Speaker 9 (10:42):
Your strengths, your strengths are kind of huler opposite from
one another, because their defense, I would say at this point,
would be one of their strengths. Although you talk about
the points that they've given up, it because the offense.
The offense hadn't done them any favors at all. But
if y'all hadn't watched them on the all twenty two.
Quinn Williams numbing is a treat to watch.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Oh oh yeah from out back, going back to Alabama.
I remember him at Alabama. He wasn't a treat to
watch for an Oklahoma fan, even when wait, wait, one
of the best centers in football, in college football and
now in the National Football League, Creed Humphrey had his
hands full with Quinn Williams in a college football playoff game.
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And he's been that kind of player since.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Well.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
I was going to remind everybody that the Cowboys did
play justin fields last year. Yep, so they should know
about him. And as a matter of coordinator coached him
right in Chicago. And a matter of fact, Fields through
a touchdown pass with four fifty six to go, and
(11:48):
Pittsburgh was up seventeen thirteen, and the Cowboys scored the
winning touchdown with twenty seconds to go. Dak throws to
Balen Tolbert and they win seventeen.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
And I got reminded that in that game.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Tolbert had seven catches for eighty seven yards in a touchdown,
and that was the guy everybody wanted to dismiss.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah, he's got nine lives, man, he has none.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
He just kind of shows up.
Speaker 7 (12:18):
I'm starting to soft him.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
It's like, don't forget about me.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
Yeah, right, and so uh And in that game, Fields
was fifteen of twenty seven, only one hundred and thirty
one yards, got sacked three times, but he threw two
touchdown passes.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Uh. That was that was a nice win.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
They limited.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Oh that was a good. Yeah, that was nice.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
And they got to them with their own way of
playing ball.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
And that was Pittsburgh got to three and two. He won.
The next game, they got to four.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
And two, and then they yanked him and Russell Wilson
took over the rest way. Oh, and they had that
winning streak they did until they lost the last four
games of the year.
Speaker 9 (13:02):
And in this game, I want to see Sauce Gardener,
you know, by Sauce Gardener rangy corner.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
He's complaining, complaining because he thinks he's getting bad calls
because he plays for the Jets and they're got a
losing records.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
So I heard, you know, I heard picking up.
Speaker 9 (13:19):
I heard that, and I felt like he he's on
a bad team and bad teams ain't gonna come on out.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
They don't get a call.
Speaker 9 (13:28):
Yeah, bad teams. I'm just saying, right, so it's legitimate.
It's just oh and four and they're not going to
get the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
And I know you don't as a dB, I don't,
but but I don't want to hear.
Speaker 9 (13:40):
On the other side, he's got to match up this
weekend with George Pickens.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
I was out there with a referee. I knew his name.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
So you don't want to be too close to to
referees because they feel like they can call it on
you without repercussion, because I mean you and you and
I talked you know before the game, after game, doing
the game, saying little words here and there.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Ever since a nice guy, Yeah yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
Okay, yeah yeah, and that he got a little bit
too comfortable, big al. He got a little bit too
comfortable with throwing flags on me. So now I don't
want to hear it. He got nothing to do with
the team.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
And by the way it is, in that game against
the Cowboys, George Pickens had three catches for twenty six yards.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
He should never finish in game three catches for.
Speaker 9 (14:23):
No and he can't finish, He can't finish that we
were not here, happen here. No, that's that's not the
stat that you want to hear. But I'm looking forward
to this matchup because you got good on good. Anytime
you get that, I think that's that's what people love
on Sunday. And defensive line wise, Quinn Williams, do.
Speaker 7 (14:43):
They do they follow? Does he follow the best receiver?
Speaker 9 (14:45):
He hadn't, But in this situation, I don't see why
he wouldn't. That's what that's what you that's what you
play the game.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
Sometimes it messes up the integrity of your defense. Sometimes
I don't know what there is if you're following Yeah,
we couldn't really do that with the flex because the
flex flex. Now maybe on third down, on third downs,
I remember following Keith Jackson on third downs some of
the another your boy Oklahoma, Okay, Oklahoma. And so yeah,
(15:18):
it depends on especially on first and second down rundowns.
You want to keep the interview of the defense. I
think if they're playings on versus anything else.
Speaker 9 (15:27):
Now, that's the one thing that I'm coming into this
game saying, run the damn ball.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Run the ball.
Speaker 9 (15:33):
Make it easy on yourself because this is a team
that that offense is you know, no good. And unless
you keep those guys you know out on the field
making mistakes, man, your offense can be taking advantage of
this defense.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
I think we should well. I think it would be
worse to let him run. I would rather he passed
the ball.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Oh yeah, keep triggered by the official that big Al.
Yeah you remember, remember had a big oul because Big
Al called tell me more about big Al. What do
you know about it?
Speaker 7 (16:03):
I know he wear OL's last name, but he did
he wear goggles? No? No he didn't.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Okay, I looked up somebody. I did an ai sir, Yeah,
Al jury who was a back judge in the NFL,
then switched the field judge after the league in nineteeny eight,
So it was a back judge when you were playing.
I just wore prescription goggles. He was also a California
(16:31):
Highway Patrol officer.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
I can see that. Maybe him jury, Yeah, maybe him.
I'm thinking he was Everything was funny.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
He was selected to officiate. Okay, how many super Bowls
did you go to?
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Ever? So I just went to one.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
He went to five super Bowls.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
Maybe that's why he feels like he has the elector to
do what the hell he.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Wanted, record tying five super Bowls. He was an official
from nineteen seventy eight to two two thousand and three.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I would be there.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
I bet it is.
Speaker 7 (17:02):
I bet that's him.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
I recognize the name less garden. It feels the same
way about referees right now.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
They lost, Uh, they may have lost their nickel corner
Michael Carter. He's in concussion, so we'll see what happens there.
And they did lose their backup running back Braylen Allen.
He's got a he's on IR with a torn.
Speaker 7 (17:23):
He was pretty good.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I like you.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Yeah, he was a big green notebook guy. Yeah, I
like him a lot. He's very young.
Speaker 7 (17:29):
Yeah, buddy, so who's the fact.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
I was watching the game the other night. I was
selling the guy in our office. I really liked his
brailen out. In the next play, footbles right on top
and then like five minutes later he hurts his leg
just a death.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Briesce halls their leading guy, right Iowa State? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yeah, so actually their leading rusher is Justin just Fields. Yeah,
he may not be their leading rusher. By the last game,
he had eighty one yards on seven carries. Have the
Cowboys had any problems with quarterbacks that get out and
just run.
Speaker 9 (18:04):
Just a little bit, just a little bit, and playing
zone the way we do. Yeah, I think quarterbacks have
had some success justin fields. That's what you got to limit.
And that's what I can remember from that game. Remember
playing him when he was with Chicago and we played
on at and t him running the ball. Mike Michael
(18:24):
made a hell of a player in that game. But
I have it's gone now, It's all over now, guys,
I'm just.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
Saying, guess who leads the Jets in rushing touchdown?
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Who is that?
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Justin Fields?
Speaker 5 (18:37):
So three, he's got twenty four carries for one hundred
and seventy eight yards.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
And that's just in three games. He didn't play against
Tampa Bay.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Right, that's somewhere now.
Speaker 6 (18:46):
Now, when you when you have a running quarterback, if
you're a defensive coordinator, you're going to be thinking about
playing a little bit more zone simply because you don't
want to open things up in the secondary. Why wide
receivers running all over the place opening up the middle
of the so that the quarterback can scramble. But we
gave up in Chicago a lot of yards to the
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quarterback in a zone. When you play a zone.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
You're supposed to be looking at the quarter supposed to.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
Be looking at the quarterback, and he still was able to.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
You know, all went back and looked at some of that.
But they took advantage on that nineteen yard nineteen play drive.
You could tell they really took advantage on the quarterback runs,
which are big plays on that drive of what was
as Iroku and it might have been foul. Another one
where a defensive end as Iraku made two plays in
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a row where he just he just bit down on
an inside run and made a tackle for lost whatever,
and it was like, Okay, he's going to do that.
Then it was like zone read out first down with
Caleb Williams, and so a lot of.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
That with those I can understand.
Speaker 6 (19:59):
But when the it comes to a pass play where
it's a broken, broken play to where he couldn't find
anyone and then he takes off and no one sees
him for fifteen yards, that's what the zone coverage is for,
and they obviously they have to work on that. They
guys like Jalen Hurts, guys like fields, they don't just
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study the defense down the field. They're looking at the
rush itself and they manipulate it. So you know immediately
if you see as a rocker or whoever coming on
the outside, the first thing they're gonna think is okay,
I have a gap here, I can take advantage out
and still look downfield.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
And happens all the time with mobile quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
See and I don't know that they've got a linebacker
that could run with a quarterback that's mobile. Lea foul maybe,
but the other guys they ain't running with a quarternoon.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Somebody said, well you got a spy, Well you need
a spy that can spy.
Speaker 7 (20:54):
Yeah, well, you're gonna have to get it.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
That's why you gotta get a nickel sometimes, right, yeah,
you gotta get a nickel and you get a big
guy in there that can't run well a safety bring
a safety down down on whoever or like overshown right, Sorry, yes,
but you know you want someone who's agile enough and
smart enough and poison enough to know what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
You have one final mix shot. It's twelve twenty one.
You said you wanted to get out of here at
twelve twenty.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
I did have one more hangout.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Okay, it's over here. I think.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
How about did we talk We did talk Dath yesterday.
Didn't we a little bit bit what his stats were?
Speaker 2 (21:37):
We can talk aboutsketball?
Speaker 5 (21:39):
Just absolutely incredible at this point.
Speaker 7 (21:41):
What is he doing.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
Number one in completions in the NFL, number one in attempts,
number one in passing yards. He's second in touchdowns with six,
the lead is seven, and he's third in completion percentage
seventy two points nine percent. Anything over sixty five is
(22:03):
damn good. And he's over seventy, so uh yeah, he's playing.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
And that Having said that, you would think that he
would be doing this all on his own.
Speaker 7 (22:16):
But when you have a running.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Game to go with actly exactly, that.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
Really lets you know how good our offensive output is
on the average.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
And with a beat up offensive line, no good.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Stuff and he but you know what's the yards per attempt?
It's just six point seven?
Speaker 6 (22:36):
Yeah, that's that's cause of Fergus.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (22:41):
Right, But do you have thirty in his career? Guards
just to get put that in perspective. We put that
in perspective his in his career, he's seven point five
yards per attempt?
Speaker 3 (22:55):
You like that? Eight point zero yards per attempt?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yes? What you like?
Speaker 3 (22:58):
You sure do so anyway, Okay, okay, okay, okay, go
do whatever you gotta do.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Mickey, Let's hope it turns out as well.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Brian Shotney or press conference coming up at twelve thirty,
will keep you posted on what he has to show.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
I'll listen to it.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
It's not about you anymore, Mickey.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Sorry, we're talking.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
I'll call if you something Jaden.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Blue when we come back. You're on what U shots?
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Shots?
Speaker 7 (23:28):
Just shot shots?
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All right, Well now that Mickey's are what what.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Do we do now? Oh?
Speaker 7 (26:35):
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Speaker 2 (26:37):
Goodness, you want to start running backs?
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Running backs? You can't wait to get that Jayden Blue
on outfield man?
Speaker 2 (26:46):
What you know, well, I don't think. I don't.
Speaker 9 (26:48):
What I don't know is is who they're gonna play.
If it's gonna be Moules Sanders who went out with
believe it's the ankle injuries U lower lower extremity injury.
But I have been waiting to see Blue. You draft
him in the late rounds. I've been able to see
what he could do because just following University of Texas
football and see how impactful he is.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Javonte Williams.
Speaker 9 (27:10):
And I'm not looking for him because I think that
Javonte Williams Isn't that I think Javonte Williams is a
hell of a running back, and it's surprised for me
when they signed him in the off season, I was like, guys,
wait a minute, we need a running back if you're
gonna let go of ric o'daldo all of these guys
that we've had come through to here to please Okay,
(27:32):
I mean we've had Pollard. We need to get Dak
the running back that's able to give him the production
that we see now, to make him the quarterback that
we see that he is now, but having that change
of pace as you've seen with other teams being able
to take advantage of that changing pace running back, I
think to Javonte Williams, really, I think you're still underutilizing
(27:53):
Javonte Williams. I think eighteen carriage is not enough. I
think he needs more like twenty five. And when I
saw Ales Sanders go out and they gave Hunter Lifky,
even though I've been waiting on a hundred lity sighting,
I was like, man, give that ball to Javonte Williams
because of the production that he's been giving you. So look,
I'm just I think you get a running back that
(28:14):
is a bruiser, a finisher, but I also want to
see the change of pace to him being somebody that's
more crafty, more shifty, and more elusive. And I think
Blue is going to give you that, and I'm ready
to see it.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
You know, with Javonte, I understand what you're saying, giving
the ball more. I think really the only game where
I can say we needed to give the ball more
to and was in the Chicago. Yes, I thought that
was the game where he should have carried it twenty
twenty five times to take the load off of our
offense and our defense who was on the field way
(28:47):
too much.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
So if he was on pace to do that, and
then the game got away from and the game got
a nineteen play drive at right and even all of
a sudden, that's fourth quarter and you're down seventeen points.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
But even with the even with the fumble, I thought
he had a good game in Chicago. And as far
as I'm concerned, Bill, I didn't think the clock was
running out too fast to where we still could have
given it to Hi when we were down seventeen. I mean,
I thought it still would have allowed us to get
a rhythm going.
Speaker 7 (29:15):
I think Dak would have been able to perform.
Speaker 6 (29:18):
Better if we would have kept running Javonte even after
the seventeen down.
Speaker 9 (29:23):
That's just my opinion, and I'm not second guessing coach
shot Nhaumer in that decision, but I'm with you when Hey,
you down seventeen, run the ball. At least that way,
you're not taking Dak off the field, you're not being predictable.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Well, here's what happened on that Okay, Cowboys got the
ball back there, down thirty one to fourteen, got it
back with nine seconds left in the third quarter, and
so they went tempo and three straight completions. They're facing
third and two at the Chicago thirty one. They get
a penalty a hold on steal that pushed them back
(29:58):
on the pass play yep, and then there was a
penalty illegal contact. Got a first down at the Chicago
thirty six, through the past to pickings and it went
off pickings picked off by Tremaine Edmunds, and so they
were matriculating by throwing, okay, and then it was just
(30:18):
a drop that carramed off of picking hands and the
Tremaine Edmunds. And now you're getting the ball back the
next time with eight minutes left in the game, down seventeen.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
If you if you go back to before the three
straight completions. You're much more likely to get a holding
call on the passing plate than you're on the running right,
and so running, being able to run the ball helps
you eliminate.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Especially especially down seventeen, because they're pinning their ears back
coming out right.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
They're coming back, They're coming at you right, and so
you know, slip Javonte in there every once in a while,
which we had been doing successfully the entire game. I
think it just it gives your offense. What does an
offensive line would like to do?
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Right? They run block.
Speaker 6 (31:06):
I mean they don't mind, you know, protecting the quarterback.
They love that too. But man, when they really want to.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Show what they're worth, they want to get out there.
Speaker 7 (31:13):
They want to get out there and go forward.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
That we should have started the game with that three
straight completions. That's fine, But now you still look at
what Everson.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
What would we have talked about in the first segment
if Javonte Williams carried the ball a lot in that game,
because Dak would not be leading the league in passing
yards and Mickey wouldn't have had anything to talk about.
Speaker 6 (31:33):
Well, one thing you have here is a bunch of
a bunch of Dak fans. But Dak will tell you
stats are one thing. Wins are totally to a whole
other thing.
Speaker 9 (31:44):
Yeah, and you have an offense right now that really
is firing on all cylinders. And I think the game
plan going against Green Bay, because come on.
Speaker 7 (31:52):
Guys, face it.
Speaker 9 (31:54):
You had your hope or optimism in that game surrounding
that defense was they're going to choke us out, you know,
with the athletes that they have on the front line,
and you saw that game plan. If we're gonna run
right at them, make them adjust to us and the
pressure that we're putting on them. They never had an
answer for Javonte Williams. They never had an answer for
the gash plays that he kept presenting. And I think
(32:16):
look combined with that going into this Jets game, because look,
I really respect this defense for the Jets, and I
think Aaron Glenn has the potential to turn this thing
around based off of who they have upfront. I mean
we're talking about guys like Jalen Carter, Quinn Williams is
another test for our offensive line in the interior. But
(32:36):
if we can run the ball, that changes everything. Yeah,
that changes everything, and it makes them adjust to us.
So that game plan I think works better than anything.
And now we have that piece in Javonte Williams that
we can come in there and use. And oh, by
the way, if we need to rest him for a spell,
we can bring another guy in A's eve just as
qualified and can have that big play potential just like him.
Speaker 7 (32:58):
We've got.
Speaker 6 (33:00):
And the Jets to me, similar teams, so much potential,
but they're not playing up to it.
Speaker 8 (33:06):
No.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
You know.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
The thing on Jaden Blue though, is and with any
rookie running back is I would say temper your enthusiasm
a little bit on it, just from the standpoint of
he's a rookie, and there's so much that goes into it,
as far as even coaches trusting rookies to even put
them on the field, which he has not been. Yep,
(33:29):
that's right. And even when you look at his time
at Texas, you go back and look at his history
when he came out of high school, they didn't play
a senior year of high school. He's got his academics
in order. Okay, he goes to Texas, Bjean would has
still been there I think in twenty two, which is
his rook His freshman year there, he only had fifteen
carries that year. The next year they had CJ. Baxter
(33:52):
or was it last year? I guess last year c J.
Baxter number one running back in the country, and by
deep he got hurt in pre season and by deep fault,
Jayden became a guy. So his second year there he
only had sixty five carries. So finally, last year is
when he got the opportunity at Texas, had one hundred
and thirty four carries, seven hundred and thirty yards, eight touchdowns.
Also caught the ball forty two times, six more touchdowns.
Speaker 6 (34:16):
So that's that's his strength right there, right right.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
And so what you're planning on using him is that
is as that as you say the change up to
Javante and he does bring that juice, the four three
eight speed, but it's just a question of with and
you look around the league, a lot of running backs
that were drafted higher than him are having a hard
(34:40):
time getting on the field. Right now, it's going to
come because running backs get hurt and basically what happened here.
Sanders is nicked up, and so it looks like Jaden
might get his opportunity this week.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
We'll see. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (34:52):
I guess my optimism comes from seeing guys like Bucky
Irvin for Tampa, you know, be so successful late gip.
Maybe I don't know exact actly worry, but I don't.
I know he was.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
I think it was a late round pick and he's
fourth round.
Speaker 9 (35:03):
Okay, But either way, you know, a late round pick
and a guy that a team really doesn't have a
whole lot of expectation on but comes in and is
a pleasant surprise to you. Talk about him being a
receiver out of the backfield. What is Dak doing right now?
Being able to survey change plays at the line of
scrimmage and check down. Now instead of checking down to
your favorite receiver Jake Ferguson, you can check down to blue.
Speaker 7 (35:27):
Light with some speed.
Speaker 9 (35:28):
Come on, That's all you're asking for in those situations.
And I think that's a great convenience. Not that Javonte
Williams can't do it, because he can and the numbers
say that he absolutely can. I just I just feel
like we have something special in him. I've been watching
this kid ever since he was someoney, somebody that was
never the He might have been the third running back
(35:49):
at a certain point at Texas, but when guys got
hurt and he got his opportunity, he took advantage of it.
Speaker 6 (35:56):
Well, now he needs to do that here because at
this point there's no true us. And that was voiced
by the coach specifically. You know, he didn't want to
say it. You know, read it between the lines.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
It was easy to.
Speaker 6 (36:09):
Read between these lives, and so you know that that's unfortunate.
And I don't want I don't want him coming out
there with that kind of self imposed pressure on himself.
Speaker 7 (36:19):
And so I don't know it. I'm hoping that, you know, Shatty.
Speaker 6 (36:23):
I'm sure Shotty's come up to him and give him
pat on the back and give him some confidence.
Speaker 7 (36:27):
But for him to have to even come out that
was kind of harsh.
Speaker 6 (36:31):
For someone like Shaddy to say those words, that's his
way of, you know, getting on somebody's case.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
And I'm glad you cited Bucky Irving on it because
I was able to look up.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Bucky Irving started his career at Minnesota and then transferred
to Oregon. Played at Oregon for two years and he
basically started for three years in college and he had
four hundred and seventy five carries in college and it
was two hundred and fourteen carries for Jayden. So just
as far as experience goes, yeah, we've got great expectations
(37:03):
for Jaden Blue. The only reason I say temporary your
enthusiasm right now is because he doesn't have that experience.
I mean, how long even you go back, go back
to the seventies, how long did it take before Tom
Landry trusted Tony Dorsett being on there? I mean he
didn't start for the first half of his rookie season
and he was a Heisman Trophy winner.
Speaker 6 (37:23):
Coming and he was very vocal too, which is very
unusual for Dwayne Thomas well a player to come out
against Tom Langic. But now that Tony wasn't having any
of that, and eventually, you know Tom, I think Tom
when he did it, he wanted to know. He wants
to see what your reaction is. You know, how are
(37:43):
you going to take this sitting down?
Speaker 8 (37:46):
All?
Speaker 2 (37:46):
You're going to take this sitting down?
Speaker 6 (37:47):
And Dorset did not, and I bet I gave him
a a little bit of a confidence Indoorset and Bet
As far.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
As this situation, I think that is the main reason
why they doubled up on veteran running backs. They knew
they were going to take a running back in the draft,
but they weren't going to because they weren't going to
get gent Okay, they weren't going to take one on
the first or second day, and so they took one
on the third day. And like, Miles Sanders, is your
bridge to Jayden Blue? Now we'll see and maybe Jadon
(38:17):
o'l you know, ball out.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
And Bill Bill.
Speaker 9 (38:20):
All I'm talking about is the last two seasons as
a Cowboy fan and the spectator of the sport and
watching the Cowboys struggle with the running game, leave games
where they've only had forty six yards rushing and you
realize that the quarterback, the backup quarterback, no one can
be successful if you don't produce a running game.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Looking for trying to find a replacement for Tony Pollard.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Yes, you know, yes, and I'm talking about that's what that's.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
What Jayden Blue has the potential of being Tony Pollard.
Speaker 9 (38:48):
And the kind of production that Tony Pollard gave you
when he was paired with Zeke that was so much
different from what you were getting. And that's and that's
what I'm asking for in this situation, because think of
how much better you can be. Miles Sanders was supposed
to present that, and I'm not saying that he hasn't
in total, I'm just saying, you got a younger guy
out here that has that potential.
Speaker 6 (39:07):
Or potential use him because of his speed.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Use him.
Speaker 6 (39:10):
And I do like Sanders, There's no doubt the bad.
I love his I love his game, I love his number,
I love everything about him. But if you can give me,
if you can show me that Blue can come out
and instead of getting twelve yards, we can get twenty five.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Okay, And when we come back here on mixed Shots,
I get I get a little comparison with Tony Pollard's
numbers coming out of costumes. That'll be interesting in regards
to Jayden, Blue WoT Shots continues in a moment.
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Speaker 3 (42:08):
Okay, continuing this little comparison that we brought up about
Jaden Blue and Tony Pollard. Tony Pollard coming out of Memphis.
Darryl Henderson was their main back at Memphis in twenty eighteen,
he ran for nearly two thousand yards. Pollard, in his
last year at Memphis, only had seventy eight carries for
(42:28):
five hundred and fifty two yards and six touchdowns, caught
the ball thirty thirty nine catches, and he basically did
that all three years he was Memphis, around thirty five
catches a year, Okay, So then take that Ford and
Jayden Blue. So he had a total of one hundred
and thirty nine carries in college. Pollard did Jayden Blue,
two hundred and fourteen carries in Texas, okay, and Jayden Blue,
(42:51):
as we showed last year at Texas, caught the ball
a lot out of the backfieldings at six receiving touchdowns.
All right, take it forward now. Pollard his rookie year
with the Cowboys twenty nineteen, played in fifteen games, no starts,
eighty six carries, four hundred and fifty five yards, fifteen
receptions one hundred and seven yards. It took time for
(43:13):
them to trust Tony Pollard too, and even his second
year he only had one hundred and one carries. And
so finally it was his fourth year in the league
when he went to the Pro Bowl in twenty twenty two.
But it's just it's yeah, and you could see the
juice that he had. But still with veteran he had
Zeke on the roster. I can't remember who else was
(43:36):
running back on the roster then with the Cowboys in
twenty nineteen. But anyway, it takes time for the rookie
a fourth round, which what Pollard was fifth round or
what blue is for them to get on the field.
Speaker 6 (43:48):
What you have with Blue is I like to call
them long long handoff. Situations may not necessarily give him
the ball in the backfield, but you know, when you've
got Turping lined up on this side, you take Turping
down the field and you flur out Blue and just
get it to him immediately. You can gas people for six, seven,
(44:09):
maybe even more yards at a time. That kind of
stuff can help you pick up your pace, especially when
we go no huddle and you know we might be behind.
I think it just gives us a whole lot more
options and more speed, which is something we need right now,
especially with CD out for a while. I think it's
really important for him to step up now with CD
(44:30):
being gone.
Speaker 9 (44:31):
This may not sound like a Javonte Williams appreciation podcast
because we're talking.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
About it's just getting that sick.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (44:39):
I just feel like when I'm watching Cowboys football now
and I see thirty three in the backfield. It's a
different feeling. On third down, it's a different feeling seeing him.
When you need that possession, you know that he can
get it there. When you get down in the goal line,
you can.
Speaker 7 (44:53):
Go thirty three and have confidence that you can get
that third and three with a run.
Speaker 9 (44:58):
And those were realities that you didn't have before. So
I absolutely love everything that Williams brings to us as
a running back, and I think right now, coming into
this matchup versus Jets, he should have a huge game,
as should guys like Jalen Tobert, as should guys like
Floor Noid guys like that because they can take advantage
(45:19):
of their matchups. Because of what George Pickens showed last week.
Speaker 6 (45:24):
I am worried about our receivers coming up against a
secondary that is known for a man to man Sauce
Garden is known for being a good cover man making
plays on the ball.
Speaker 7 (45:37):
Like you said, a long dB.
Speaker 6 (45:40):
If I were the Jets, I'm going to pressure my
wide receivers, the cowboy wide receivers every down because see
these out double up pickings over here. Now, I want
to see what you guys can do. First of all,
y'all are undersized. You're undersized, So I'm going to pressure
you the whole game. I'm going to be in your
face the whole game. Give me pause. If I'm Dak Prescott,
(46:02):
you send a little pressure. Here comes your boy Williams right,
and all of a sudden you're looking at tight windows
to have to throw through. That's what happened in Chicago.
We didn't we didn't stick to the game plan. Interception
off the hands of Pickings. Things can go badly on
the road bill It does all the time. That's what
(46:24):
concerns me about this is them putting the pressure and
having us pay play at their tempo, which usually works
against the Cowboys on the road.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
And you look at the mindset of the Jets circum
this is the first three straight home games for them.
They got Dallas this week, Denver next week, and then Carolina,
and if they can get this one, then especially with
Carolina lurking, they can get back.
Speaker 6 (46:50):
If you don't know that the Cowboys are the most
hated team on the road, then you'll find out.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
What was the last time. The last time Cowboys went
to New York to play the Jet. It's twenty nineteen,
ugly game twenty four to twenty two loss.
Speaker 9 (47:06):
Yeah, it's been a while, but you go to met
Life with the number one tight end in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Send us out here, Bill.
Speaker 3 (47:13):
All right, all right, and uh hec ma, you're gonna
be running the show to be tomorrow. I got, I got,
I got a warning air warning right there, and we
will shout at you again tomorrow at high noon. Here
on the return of mix Shots, Oh Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
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