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September 29, 2025 48 mins

This is always the dilemma with ties, should the Cowboys be happy tying a team heavily favored to win, or be disappointed they did not win a winnable game. The offense led by Dak, Pickens and the O-Line put up 40 on the NFL’s No. 1 scoring defense, but the defense gave up 40, too, now 33 points a game.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
This is Mick.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Shot screaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com and the official
Dallas Cowboys have now Here are Bill Jones, Heckma Harrison
Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.

Speaker 4 (00:37):
H Dallas Cowboy kind of turned it halfway down.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
I was thinking, do we do half the fight song
or I don't want to lift my head.

Speaker 5 (00:57):
The producer Supreme decided we go half the volume. At
least we could get half the fights on the volume.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
Was good, okay, all.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Right, it's the morning after.

Speaker 5 (01:10):
It's actually now the afternoon, after high noon on a
Monday after Cowboys packers. You know what I brought in here?
I brought a glass holy.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
Water, half half full. That's why I had the glass.
This guy, I love it. What is it?

Speaker 3 (01:28):
What's the glass?

Speaker 4 (01:29):
It is a glass half full, half full.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Everybody's in agreement.

Speaker 5 (01:33):
It's half full. It's not half right, I did you
said the first thing?

Speaker 4 (01:38):
He said half empty? That's oh?

Speaker 3 (01:39):
I thought, yeah, yeah, okay, So which is it? Is
it half full or is it half empty?

Speaker 4 (01:44):
We'll see as we continue to you watch.

Speaker 5 (01:47):
After the game last is your glass half full or
half empty?

Speaker 4 (01:52):
Half empty?

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Ever since half? I know Mickey's well, I don't know
what is is it?

Speaker 4 (01:58):
Half full?

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Half empty?

Speaker 6 (01:59):
See, I've got that's like last night you got a
pick you can't no time.

Speaker 7 (02:06):
I've got these little wine glasses my grandfather used to
drink out of, and they came up with new ones.
And there's a wine in the middle and on top
of it it says optimista and on the bottom it
says pessimist. So if the wine's right on the level there, it's.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
Just optimist, it's neither.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yeah, it's even all even Mickey reminds me of my
dad asked you what time? It isn't even.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
Something something?

Speaker 7 (02:37):
You have brought it in right with the wind.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
We got it.

Speaker 8 (02:42):
Come on, I've been dying to know you guys are
not the type to blow up the text line during
the game, so I have to wait till the next
day to really figure out what y'all are thinking about
the game. It makes me sick, actually, all right, because
i'd like to know, you know, why are you watching
the game?

Speaker 4 (02:57):
Like?

Speaker 5 (02:57):
Oh, that's my problem? Last night is I was actually
having to put a thirty minute sports show together. There
was supposed to be a postgame show, and it turned
out nobody. Nobody's gonna watch us anyway because the game
was on NBC five, but nobody was watching, guys, because
our sports show was going on while the game's being played.

(03:18):
So I'm having to talk on the air at the
same time and watch a little monitor over here what's
going on. I had to rewatch it this morning. I
was at the So that's why I wasn't texting during
the game last night.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
And I were getting done before the game.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Always, no, we were. We were halfway through our show.

Speaker 5 (03:36):
Our show didn't start till eleven o'clock.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah, we basically were.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
I was at the game. So you never can't. Yeah, yeah,
and you're not. You can't watch it.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
So but that's another reason why you're not. Your text
line is not getting filled up.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
Because guys, we had three games before this, so let's
not you know.

Speaker 7 (03:52):
All right, I don't text during the game, no way, Mickey,
I do not text.

Speaker 8 (03:56):
I would have never guessed that I hadn't received the thanks.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
I don't know what you're talking about talking to them.

Speaker 8 (04:06):
Come on, man, let's say listen. Can we get into
this what y'all think for real? Mickey will start with you.

Speaker 7 (04:12):
Let me give you the perspective on this. I'm on
the elevator going down to the field after the game
in the press box, and there's a bunch of Green
Bay Packer fans in there, and they were moaning and groaning, right,
and one guy goes, Hey, at least they didn't lose
like that, And then I was thinking, yeah, but on

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the other side, they're saying we should have won. And
I think that there was supreme disappointment in that locker
room and on the face of Brian Schottenheimer when he
had to come in and do the interview he tried
to put on you know, hey, I'm proud of these guys.

Speaker 5 (04:55):
They fought, they fought, they fought.

Speaker 7 (04:57):
He goes, but we didn't win. And I think that's
the way I feel, and it.

Speaker 6 (05:03):
Is a it is a consistent reason why we can't win,
and we just.

Speaker 5 (05:09):
We scored forty points.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
We have to we have to be better defensively.

Speaker 6 (05:15):
I mean, we can sit up here and be proud
of Dak Prescott, but they should be proud of Jordan Love.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
I mean, this guy was balling last night and you
know it's.

Speaker 5 (05:27):
Yeah, but he wasn't going up against the number one
defense in the league.

Speaker 6 (05:33):
And not trying to compare necessarily them together. I'm comparing
their ability to come through when they need to, and
we allowed them once again to do that.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
I don't want our offense to have to work so hard.

Speaker 5 (05:52):
Got to score forty points, and.

Speaker 6 (05:54):
I don't want our offense they have to work so
hard every game.

Speaker 8 (05:59):
Yeah, they're going to have to. They're gonna work. They're
gonna have to work work twice as hard. Actually, because
if you're watching the same game that I was watching,
you saw Eba Flu's playing two. You saw two safety high,
single safety high. You saw playing man, you playing, you
saw him playing zone. You saw him rotating players on
and off in the defensive line. You saw it also
in the secondary. You saw him take time outs when

(06:21):
guys looked confused.

Speaker 7 (06:22):
Also, right, well, they were confused on the last.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
Play, so his his Here's where the thing is.

Speaker 7 (06:29):
No, I mean on the last player regulation, Okay, they
were confused. They weren't. They snapped the ball and the
linebackers were still talking on before they got the ball
down the field.

Speaker 8 (06:41):
You're talking about on the Trayvon Is it the Trayvon
Diggs play where he split? Was that right before the
because I have my bench before the.

Speaker 5 (06:49):
Field goal that tied it to force overtime?

Speaker 3 (06:51):
Is that what you're talking about?

Speaker 4 (06:52):
I thought so there was.

Speaker 7 (06:53):
I was talking about it today, which was an incomplete pass?
They were, Yeah, that was the one that there was
one that.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
They line back in the back of the head. Was
the game all time? Okay.

Speaker 8 (07:05):
My whole thing is is ever since you're watching it
and I'm saying, whoever even flew say everybody this morning,
that even this and that, and I'm watching the guy
that's trying literally everything to get this defense going from
personnel to scheme to every way you possibly can. When
do you start saying to yourself, but guys can't get
it done now?

Speaker 6 (07:27):
Because that's one thing I could see. I saw a
lot of incompetence on from individuals.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
That's what I saw. Guys missing tackles when we need them.
I mean, I know it was it was Okay, I
wasn't he figured it out. I figured it was.

Speaker 7 (07:47):
It was the deep pass for the first touchdown. They
weren't ready for the snaps. Okay, the coverage screwed up again.
The linebackers were talking the beginning.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
Of the game. Yeah, at the beginning of.

Speaker 7 (08:01):
The game, which we all don't get right, What were
you not sitting there when it was thirteen to nothing?

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Goes yeah, okay, we go again.

Speaker 7 (08:10):
And the first series they it was what thirty eight
and they gave up but thirty eight forty yard pass?

Speaker 5 (08:17):
There was a forty six yard of mac Yeah, the
golden and there were two packages.

Speaker 7 (08:21):
Yeah, Bland had to choose who he was going to cover,
and they sandwiched him.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
You were going somewhere.

Speaker 5 (08:26):
Yeah, let's get sorry, I'm trying to ride with you.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
I'm trying to ride with you on this guy's missing tackles?

Speaker 5 (08:31):
Were you miss.

Speaker 6 (08:35):
No, no, no, it was just the individual incompetence that
I didn't like.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
And here we are there.

Speaker 6 (08:42):
There was so many moments where a guy could step
up and change the narrative.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
Yeah, one on one, uh one time.

Speaker 6 (08:53):
A couple of times the running back himself was out
there with three of our defenders and we had no
idea how to corralled this guy. Basics in football, if
it's three of us, you still over there.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
I'm here, I'm here, I mean, come on, man, you
knowing that Pee wee league.

Speaker 6 (09:10):
You know, hey, I'm not gonna go over here guy,
because you're over here. You got that covered. I'll be
you know.

Speaker 7 (09:16):
This is Did you like the diving interception? I missed
most of that and they had twelve guys on the
Oh come on.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
Oh I did see that. That was beautiful. That was so beautiful.

Speaker 5 (09:28):
Or the play that.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
They say this last week. We cannot have penalties.

Speaker 6 (09:35):
It just makes us work even harder than we should
be working right now. We are we are damaging ourselves
when we are already at a disadvantage.

Speaker 7 (09:46):
About sacking love and then you get.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
Called for a face face mask, I mean.

Speaker 7 (09:51):
Les that play and I didn't see it, but somebody
said when he got up and pushed the guy down.

Speaker 6 (09:56):
Like that as a rocket, that's the one that they
called as a rockery.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
He grabbed him up hot.

Speaker 5 (10:06):
Yeah was the leaf one was a late hit, right,
it was in the open field.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
It was late, the ball had bounced down.

Speaker 6 (10:13):
Sorry, I saw where Yeah, it was rock He got
inside and the guy reached out and grabbed the face man.

Speaker 5 (10:20):
Okay, okay, we're talking about totally different things here. Okay, yeah, fellas,
what the sack that you're talking about was the Sam Williams.

Speaker 8 (10:28):
Right, nickey, do you have anything in there with forty
three seconds left in the in the game? Do you
have anything that starts with forty three seconds in the
game or thirty.

Speaker 7 (10:36):
Five, thirty five seconds, thirty five excuse me, thirty.

Speaker 8 (10:39):
Five seconds when they took the good What do you
got on that? And then book.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
I got?

Speaker 7 (10:44):
The first play went for twenty five yards?

Speaker 8 (10:47):
How do you give a field position? How do you
flip field position with the first play that?

Speaker 4 (10:52):
Well, that happened numerous times.

Speaker 6 (10:55):
I mean, I'm surprised you remember only that one because the.

Speaker 5 (10:59):
Last that was the is tackle one did Josh Jacobs? Yeah, no, No,
I'm talking about the end of the game. Is tackled
in front of the Cowboys sideline. That's one you're talking about.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
Right seconds, All I saw was miss tackles. Yeah, I'm sorry.

Speaker 6 (11:13):
The drive, the last drive, all I saw was miss tackles,
fail plays, can't stop them on third down.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
You're ten for fourteen. That's why I'm half empty.

Speaker 5 (11:24):
You know who is making all the tackles on the
last driving overtime? Your favorite player, Donovan Wilson was making
every tackle outside of when they got down in the
red zone and you had the Trayvon Diggs one and
then Don Bland at a tackle, which were big plays
down the red zone. But how about okay, can we
just for a second. We're here on mix shots, But

(11:46):
in Green Bay, Wisconsin today on MICUs Shots, they're talking
about the end of the game and how the Packers
came so close to blowing the whole thing and the
Cowboys walk away winners. One second, the ball gets tipped
up just a little bit and doesn't hit the ground.

(12:07):
It's the clock expires.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
I can't believe he threw it.

Speaker 7 (12:10):
I went back and looked at it, and I said,
did the clock operator screw up? There was one second left.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Ball hit the.

Speaker 7 (12:20):
Ground, and it could have popped up the air. Yeah,
it could have popped up in the air and could
have hit him in the helmet. It hit some square
in the back.

Speaker 5 (12:31):
And I do give Sambooring credit for following Golden all
the way to the back of the end zone, but
it would have been nice head he got to the
back of the ind zone if he would have turned
around and then he kind of bobble it.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
He didn't even have to pick it off.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
Just bobble it.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
A little bit.

Speaker 5 (12:45):
He was expires, he was scrambling.

Speaker 7 (12:49):
He was scrambling his butt off to get there.

Speaker 5 (12:52):
I don't yeah, that wasn't.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
He almost past the goal post. He's running through the tunnel.

Speaker 7 (13:02):
I want them do a screenshot on when Love threw
the ball. Kenny Clark's pushing two Packer offensive linemen back
into him. He can't even step up. Sam Williams is
coming around and he got pushed behind him and coming
back and he didn't get there like a tickle.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
You know what.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
You know what.

Speaker 5 (13:24):
The other thing that was so incredibly dumb about Jordan
Love's decision to do that, oh yeah, is the fact
that had a penalty been called against the Packers, they
had no timeouts left. It's a running clock. Obviously, if
they line up wrong, okay, if the two guys on
this side don't get in the backfield where it's it
could have been an illegal formation, false start anything like that.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Game over.

Speaker 5 (13:50):
You got a ten second runoff because they didn't have
time out left.

Speaker 7 (13:52):
Because the previous play started with twenty eight seconds to go.

Speaker 5 (13:57):
It didn't have to have the clock expiring. All it
takes is one guy on that offense screwing up a
whold whatever it might be. That game is over there.

Speaker 7 (14:06):
And they snapped the ball with six seconds to them,
and it seemed like that play lasted like thirty seconds forever, right,
But I went back and looked and it was one
second left, and it's like, oh my god.

Speaker 8 (14:21):
Forty three seconds left in the game. Forty three seconds
they get the ball with thirty thirty five thirty five
seconds they get that, and you allow them to flip
field position. And I'm going to start an argument with
this thought. I know I am, but here's the deal.
And over time, you're down in the red zone. And
I said it last week, and I'm going to contradict

(14:41):
myself with this statement because I said, there are decisions
that you see being made on the football field that
thirty years ago would have gotten you fired. Everybody's going
to analytics and Mickey's favorite site, PFF. But in times
where your defense is giving you nothing, everybody in the
stadium new if you gave the package back the ball,

(15:03):
you had a chance to lose it because they could
have you know, anything could happen, obviously, because.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
When we scored to some what you're talking about, I'm
talking about overtime. Overtime I'm talking about at the end
of the game. Yeah, so but regulation.

Speaker 8 (15:15):
Yeah, but in that situation right there, that goes for
it on third down, he's running to the end zone,
Micah tackles him. He's there at the three yard line.
If anything else, the Packers are going to have to
go ninety seven yards to win it. And I guess
at that point, but guys, your defense isn't stopping anything.

Speaker 5 (15:35):
You know what, that you got you though, you've got to,
you know, got to, you have to you know what,
you can credit for making that decision to kick the
field goal. You got half a win because if you
if you don't convert, okay, on that fourth down play,
they're gonna go down and at least kick a field
goal and you're gonna lose. So that's the other that's
the other side to that pancake right at parcels Witch.

Speaker 8 (15:56):
Guys, we're just talking about if we're just talking about
the clock operator, we're just talking about if the ball
is bounced in the air.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
I'm talking about if we win.

Speaker 8 (16:02):
I'm talking about, here's a here's an opportunity, and your
defense hasn't stopped anything. You just saw with forty thirty
five seconds left, you flip the field on a mistackle.

Speaker 6 (16:12):
If you haven't, you just saying go for the win,
go for the win, go for the win.

Speaker 8 (16:15):
You have them in over time on fourth and six
and they still confer on you. You gotta six.

Speaker 5 (16:24):
But one thing about it, the Packers approach things differently
if they're down a touchdown when they get the ball back,
if you score that touchdown, the Packers will approach obviously,
they're they're going for the end zone at.

Speaker 7 (16:35):
The end of the game rather than they had four
minutes and forty seconds to go.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
Yeah, no, I get it. I'm not. I'm not.

Speaker 8 (16:42):
I'm not.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
I'm not.

Speaker 5 (16:43):
You know, there's a school thought out there.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
Just go ahead. I'm not going to touch time. And
they're talking about the distance.

Speaker 7 (16:48):
Yeah, I'm talking them about I know you're talking about
the distance. But if you look how coaches coach, they
don't they want to extend the game. They don't want
one play to beat them.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (17:00):
And if you don't, what gave you confidence after the
first three plays from the five yard line that you
were going to score so down?

Speaker 5 (17:08):
Here's my question. Here's my question on the on the
third down play at the four yard line and overtime. Okay,
Dak threw that ball away, Okay, was he thinking in
his mind that he's had another play before before that?
It was they had two plays from the four to score,
and he just what he saw what he hoped to

(17:31):
be open, which which was I think Illinoy coming across
the back of the end zone.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
He wasn't open, so he threw it away.

Speaker 5 (17:37):
I mean, if you go back and look at that,
he had overthrew it.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
I mean he threw it away. Yeah, he threw it.

Speaker 5 (17:42):
That's when I said he threw it away with the
thought that that I'm we're going to go for it
again on fourth down.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
We're going for the touchdown.

Speaker 5 (17:51):
I'm wondering if Dak was thinking that because the other
thing on that third down play, he had Jamison Williams
out in the flat open. I don't know that he
would have scored. He might have, I don't know. You
also had Jake Ferguson posting up two yards deep in
the end zone, and there is a risk it may
have been kway Walker is a really good line packer

(18:12):
who could have broke on that ball and picked it
off for absolutely and so, but he didn't take those chances.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
He threw it away.

Speaker 5 (18:21):
And I don't know that he was playing for the
field goal or didn't want to risk a turnover down there,
or if he thought that we got another play here
to score a touchdown.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
It is interesting, I guess guys.

Speaker 8 (18:33):
You guys have conventional wisdoms of football, things that you
innately believe about football, and everybody believes. You know, Look,
you get down there, you have a chance to tie
it or go ahead, kick the field goal, take the points,
put your defense back on the field. What I'm saying is,
when you put your defense back on the field, there
was no way in hell they were going to stop them.

(18:54):
It just wasn't you have an opportunity. Now you can
hold them to a field goal, but you got an
opportunity to win this football game and everything that you've done,
and they're saying the same things in Green Bay.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
We had an opportunity to win that game.

Speaker 8 (19:06):
Dak played well enough in that football game to come
away with a victory. And this is a team game,
but the defense let you down. And that would have
been a situation where I would have to look my
coach in the hind and say man, I put it
on me because if you take any of the other
thirty one teams in the NFL, they go forward down there,
whether it's a toush.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
Push or whatever the whatever, you believe, they're gonna go forward.
I don't think Shody is that kind of coach yet.
I just don't.

Speaker 6 (19:32):
Wow, that's that's a that's a gutsy move what you're
talking about?

Speaker 4 (19:36):
That was his What do you think? I think that's
a real gutsy move you've talked.

Speaker 5 (19:40):
I did not have a problem kicking the field goal,
but there are other coaches it would it was.

Speaker 4 (19:48):
That would do exactly what he's talking about.

Speaker 5 (19:51):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
I don't think Shody is there yet. I think and
I don't know that. I don't know that.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
I want Shaddy to be there either.

Speaker 8 (19:59):
Yeah, Shotty crossed the game offensively. He called a game
and George Pickens and I'm sure we'll second segment segment this,
But George Pickens and Dak Prescott had a hell of
a game.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
So scored four points without seeing Outis.

Speaker 9 (20:15):
That for him?

Speaker 7 (20:15):
I mean, you sit there and they were playing, were
they ranked number one defense? They were up there, they
had only given up forty four points. In three games.
They gave up forty to this team that scored one
touchdown in Chicago, and think about what they were up against,

(20:36):
no starting center, no starting guard. They lose Geiton Uh
in the game, they lose Hooker in the game. Diggs
is still not playing full time, and they scored. They
had them on the ropes. And why because they had
Dak Prescott, they had George Pickens, they had Javonte Williams.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Right.

Speaker 7 (20:58):
I can go on and on the guys that played
so well. Leo Files starts his first NFL game, Schamar
James plays in his first NFL game, right, And he's
in there at the end when Murray gets hurt and
they lost him for several plays. And they had all
these guys to compensate for what they didn't have, right,

(21:21):
And they nearly won. But I understand the disappointment that
they didn't win. And I think that that was the killer.
They had to lead five times, yeah, and gave it
up until the tie. I call that giving it up
five times five times lead against that.

Speaker 4 (21:41):
Trust me, I understand the optimism.

Speaker 5 (21:43):
But what was your score?

Speaker 4 (21:45):
You picked him I'll win, Yeah, I always pick us
to win.

Speaker 6 (21:48):
Yeah, I know, I think I had like twenty I
think twenty seven to twenty three or something like that.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
That's what I had.

Speaker 5 (21:56):
I had thirty to sixteen, twenty sixteen game.

Speaker 7 (22:00):
Okay, you had a forty burger, but I reversed it
when I saw Starbach and I think.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
Yeah, all my.

Speaker 6 (22:07):
Somebody had freaking seventeen thirty. Don't know who did.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
That was me?

Speaker 5 (22:11):
That was the first quarter, said in the first half,
I think the first quarter?

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Right, all right, we got much much much more to
get to.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
What did you tease, George Pickens?

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Yeah, big day.

Speaker 5 (22:25):
When we come back here on mixed shots.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
Something good.

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Speaker 5 (25:12):
By the way, the play I was just talking about now,
someone just sent me the all twenty two of the play,
the third and goal play in overtime at the four
yard line, and in fact, Dak is looking right at
Terrence Steele blocking Micah. If you look at the end
zone copy of that, I mean Dak is literally looking

(25:35):
right at it and had he made the throat of
had he not thrown it away, I'm thinking that Terrence
Steele was going to get a flag for holding because
he had his hands right around the shoulder pads of Micah.
And if he would await Dak would have waited any
time longer because he got rid of that ball quick, Okay,

(25:59):
so the pockets collapsing on him. If he would have
waited any longer, Terrence was right on the edge of getting.

Speaker 7 (26:05):
Called for Well you saw him get subbed out right.
Nate Thomas was playing right.

Speaker 5 (26:10):
Tackle at for four plays, yeah, or.

Speaker 7 (26:13):
Plays, and then he had to move the left tackle
and and we're talking a guy that a.

Speaker 8 (26:19):
Game is basically, I'm just happy they still they don't
call holding for Micah no matter what uniform.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
This is, no matter.

Speaker 5 (26:31):
I just have a feeling that deck not throwing the
football away. There was a flag coming out so anyway, so.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
I couldn't see it.

Speaker 6 (26:39):
Everybody's going crazy in the place. Who blocked the field goal?

Speaker 3 (26:45):
Thomas? He didn't.

Speaker 5 (26:47):
He needed to block another one.

Speaker 7 (26:50):
He came close on one other time.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
That might have been the thing that shifted the momentum in.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
That death time definitely doubt, no.

Speaker 8 (26:58):
Doubt that you talked thirteen oh at that point where
the team just looked like they were down and it
was never gonna get back to the point offensively where
you were gonna have anything. Man, they had to in
that last forty seconds Dak in the defense and finally
some pressure a sack strip. You know, imagine that you

(27:19):
get a sighting and then the balls turned over in
favorable position and then Dak comes back with the pass
that you're leading at halftime and you get the ball
to start the third quarter, and that's where things to
me just kind of started teetering.

Speaker 4 (27:32):
Man. A lot of scoring in that moment from that score,
a hell of a lot of flowering.

Speaker 8 (27:37):
But we got to talk about George Pickens because I
think at this table it's been all about the question
mark over if he can be that guy and one A,
one B.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
However you talk about it with CD, he showed you.

Speaker 8 (27:49):
George Pickings showed last night that if you feed me
the ball, good things are gonna happen. Like eleven eight
for eleven eleven targets. He made a count man.

Speaker 6 (27:59):
I mean, came through when we needed him to come through.
I mean it was it was part. It looked like
it was part. For the course. They looked like they've
been playing together for about five years and they felt
comfortable with each other. He was open, didn't have to
throw any tights balls in there. And I think it
has a lot to do also with the supporting cast.

(28:20):
And I gotta go there. You know, what's my boy tober?

Speaker 4 (28:25):
You know, trade him?

Speaker 6 (28:29):
We talked about I was talking about him on Saturday
night and the guy came up with a term. He said,
he's extraordinary, extraordinarily ordinary or something like that. I mean,
and there's a lot of like a catchy way to
say how I felt about his game.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
And that was it.

Speaker 6 (28:49):
And then here he comes and he does this, and
so you know, they he had done it just once
this year.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
He did another time.

Speaker 5 (28:55):
Of course, remember that touchdown in New Orleans. I think
it was the back of the end.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
Yeah, yeah, fifty to fifty ball.

Speaker 7 (29:04):
So when he brought up the Houston play, sack, fumble,
humble recovery, what do you think Green Bay was thinking
it's it's first in fifteen at their own twenty seven
thirteen seconds left. I mean that's when the play ended.
There was yeah, thirteen seconds and they're throwing the football.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
Have you seen our defense?

Speaker 4 (29:30):
Want to introduce you? Thank you? Tell me you make
they're playing the t they're playing to this trip.

Speaker 7 (29:36):
Yeah, you're up thirteen to nine.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
Where are you going?

Speaker 3 (29:43):
Just go to the house.

Speaker 4 (29:45):
Remember the time when.

Speaker 7 (29:49):
Was it romo through the outpast and it got fumbled?

Speaker 5 (29:52):
There was right right, there's Washington, Washington talking about it
right before the half and choice on the sideline.

Speaker 7 (29:58):
Jason Garrison many moments right, yes, but that reminded me
of that.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
Going running out of time.

Speaker 7 (30:06):
The Cowboys got the ball back with thirteen seconds.

Speaker 8 (30:09):
Whatt But imagine that Finally pressure gets home and you
see average secondaries all the time play better than what
they are because you can pressure the quarterback.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
And even I was looking forward to the pressure.

Speaker 8 (30:23):
Let's get You knew it coming into this game that
you had to be successful there and in the first
half when you were able to get home, it made
a difference in the ballgame for you because it made
guys like the run Bland and Trayvon Diggs look better.

Speaker 6 (30:37):
All right, well, let me say this, and I could
see this from where I was Green Bay's pace. I
don't know if it was always been West Coast, but
they went to a West Coast style of pace.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
They were not going like dumping. There were no playoffs.

Speaker 6 (30:55):
They were as soon as his back foot hit they
were throwing. That's why the pressure couldn't get there a
lot doing those last few drives. But the guys were open.
Now that's okay. They were open because they were playing
his own. The problem became that they were not bringing
them down the guy. They did what the defense called
for them to do, but you have to make the
play on the tax and they did not do that.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
That happened the entire fourth quarter.

Speaker 6 (31:21):
Guys, linebackers and DB's coming up, not corralling a guy,
not making the tackle, and that's how they were able
to move the chains.

Speaker 4 (31:31):
And that I can't put that on the d line.

Speaker 6 (31:34):
You have to put that on the secondary, the entire
secondary to convert on the ball.

Speaker 7 (31:40):
They ran for one hundred and sixty four yards.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
And they were gashing us. They were right down the middle.

Speaker 7 (31:47):
Well, we'll eliminate your pass rush. Now you got to
start being run conscious, right, and they weren't fancy, just
right in the middle.

Speaker 5 (31:58):
Sixty four.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
But it was him. It was Wilson when Wilson came in.
He got a piece.

Speaker 8 (32:05):
Who is he by the way, just somebody ran for
eight for forty four and had an impact on this game.
And we questioned Love and his ability. Was he mobile enough?
He just showed you, heyll I'm gonna do.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
It's just run. It's the same thing.

Speaker 8 (32:20):
But give look, I give the floor this credit though
his game plan coming in, hitting those screens and all
that underneath stuff that you're talking about coming quick. That's
where you really needed your guys to be disciplined. I
saw Treyvondas as you were talking about. Man take a
bad angle on a few tackles, on a few tackles,
and it's mistakes like that, even from your linebackers that

(32:42):
just cost you because they were gashing you on the backside.

Speaker 6 (32:45):
It doesn't seem like they're serious about the craft itself,
because that's what defenses do. They converge together. Yeah, that's
supposed to be of one mind. It seems as if
everyone one is playing as if they're on the field
by themselves. When you converge on the running back, you know,

(33:06):
if the sideline is here and you have one of
your fellow defenders coming and he's converging. You're you're converging.
There's a certain angle that you guys instinctly take to
cover for it. It's instinctive. You're there, I'm here. He
makes a move that way, I don't go way down here.
You're there, So I'm gonna catch him on the back shoulder.

(33:27):
If he comes back this way. You stood your ground.
I'm waiting on him here. If he strives to split them,
be both got ye. That did not happen several times
to where two guys missing one running back just more
than once. It was it was throughout the entire fourth quarter.
That's why I said go for it on the goal
line anyway. And some coaches just say to their own

(33:51):
or sometimes they play to their own weaknesses, and our
weakness is our defense.

Speaker 8 (33:55):
Which, hey, you said it in the open man, you
would you would just basically say that, Look, you know
this from high school, middle school football, staying in your
lane to all to make a tackle, and teams come out,
and well I saw Green Bay come out and just
make the Cowboys defense run from side to side, run
from side to side. If you could make the tack,
you better get our guys down. They believed in their playmakers.

(34:17):
And how many times did we say Romeo Dobbs is
a problem on the show. How many times did we say, Hey.

Speaker 7 (34:22):
I think, what do you think they're talking about in
Green Bay right now?

Speaker 6 (34:26):
I think that this time bode's worse for them than
death for us.

Speaker 7 (34:31):
I mean, I think they're saying the same thing you
guys are saying about their defense, right, and that they're
saying about that. All the Cowboys had was pickings. They
just needed to cover them and he went for a hundred.

Speaker 6 (34:43):
Their salary is way higher than ours, even without without,
so yeah, they should be even.

Speaker 12 (34:49):
And they had Micros back there that they're playing.

Speaker 5 (34:53):
They had Michael.

Speaker 12 (34:55):
This game wasn't about the Cowboys playing the Packers. It
was about playing Michael Parson. Did you watch the pregame show.
That's all they showed was Michael Parsons and he did
nothing until he made that tackle.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
Was damn escaping? Yeah, and it was escaping. It wasn't him.
It wasn't him.

Speaker 6 (35:15):
To loud, this man made the damn tackle. If he
don't make the tackle.

Speaker 5 (35:18):
But Eddrian Cooper was going to tackle, was right, Okay, Yeah,
Chris Collins words will tell you that, Oh he made
the playfast, but Edrian Cooper was down him.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
Yeah, I didn't want to be I didn't want.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
To I didn't want it to be a sack.

Speaker 5 (35:34):
If it was eighteen inches farther downfield, it wouldn't have
been a sack.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
It went for no gain.

Speaker 5 (35:39):
If it goes for positive yardage of it to run,
it's not a sack that I'm.

Speaker 8 (35:46):
Taking Jack one on one in that situation. Bill, that's
where I'm going against against. Come on, now, I'm just saying,
I mean, I'm just I'm just saying.

Speaker 7 (35:54):
I wasn't the walking touchdown that Collinsworth.

Speaker 4 (35:57):
Told you, So hold up, I have to go back
and look that. So what a man would he? Would
he have it?

Speaker 7 (36:03):
That?

Speaker 4 (36:03):
That's what I'm saying. Man, man, you're saying that.

Speaker 5 (36:05):
You guys were like, oh no, he would have had
h I think Cooper was That's it.

Speaker 4 (36:09):
That's the thought. I'm just saying. Look, here's the deal.
Where was Cooper coming from in.

Speaker 5 (36:14):
I mean he was inside inside, he was about the
one yard line, and so they were on a collision course.

Speaker 4 (36:19):
Okay, yeah, okay, so so man and man. But but
we'll never know because Michael Parson's made a hell of.

Speaker 6 (36:25):
Would have That was a change of play calling because
he was gotten closer. He would have gotten closer than
what he ended up.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
Yeah, right, it would have two yard line instead of
have been the.

Speaker 7 (36:33):
Two instead of the four.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
That changes it dramatic, all right.

Speaker 5 (36:39):
And by the way, Emmanuel Wilson, the pride of Fort
Valley State.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
Right back.

Speaker 5 (36:46):
Right, Rayfield right, that's right, all right, we wrap up
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Speaker 5 (39:25):
Right final A few minutes here of a glass half
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Speaker 4 (39:34):
Full, moral victory Monday.

Speaker 5 (39:37):
And I seen so half of us think it's half full.
So it's a half full, half full edition of Mixshots.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
Here they right and lose.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
I'm waiting on the dB to make it. Damn tackle,
that's one way none they did.

Speaker 5 (39:50):
Trayvon and Daron Bland made tackles on that last drive
in the red zone. Did you like you did? Jiggs?
Diggs came in heaps. He read that thing in three
yard law and then Bland. I think it was a
one yard loss.

Speaker 8 (40:02):
That was That was a play though by Trayvon Diggs
at that moment. If he doesn't make that play they're
out flanked because the defense was kind of confused right
before that.

Speaker 5 (40:10):
Place started to give some the defense some credit.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
There will give Trevon Diggs. Say let's give Diggs.

Speaker 7 (40:16):
Give Diggs, Yeah, I got Freddy Stewart had six tackles.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
Yeah, well he's our guy. You know what.

Speaker 8 (40:23):
Reddy Stewart absolutely showed. They brought him as he's that guy.

Speaker 4 (40:27):
He really does.

Speaker 8 (40:28):
He does a good job and run support twenty seven
when he's along the line of scrimmage even blitz.

Speaker 4 (40:33):
So how did who was in the slot? He was ready?

Speaker 7 (40:36):
There was a couple of times they they did put
Bland in the slot when Diggs was out with Elm
on the outside.

Speaker 5 (40:44):
Okay, but not that often. Okay, glass half full. Who's
a defensive player that you liked what they saw? What
you saw from him?

Speaker 3 (40:51):
My pick to click as a rock. That's a guy
what I was thinking of.

Speaker 7 (40:56):
This guy's going to start starting.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
He was. He was very Oh yeah, he was very active.

Speaker 5 (41:01):
And what I like about him, aside from the tools
that are going to turn him eventually into an elite
pass rusher, is he will defend the run. I'd have
to say, by the way his old head coach who
is on the other sideline defensive coordinator for the Packers,
Jeff Hafley.

Speaker 4 (41:19):
Go ahead, I have to say, what's what what's my
man named Tolbert?

Speaker 3 (41:24):
Okay, I'm talking defense.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
Ah, I'm just happy blayding this back.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
Okay, all right.

Speaker 4 (41:31):
Really on offense, just offensively, Tobot.

Speaker 6 (41:37):
And not just him, but Dak is really something the trust,
the trust and he puts in these guys. I mean
we were making fun of it in the Giants game.
He kept going to Tobot, going these backups even when
the CD and uh Pickens were healthy together.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
And now he's had a lot of time on.

Speaker 4 (42:02):
I mean throwing difficult passes to.

Speaker 7 (42:04):
Them, you know, the other people he trusted that offensive line.

Speaker 4 (42:08):
Yeah, man, there you go. You had. I gotta give
you that backups, and I gotta give you that one.

Speaker 7 (42:11):
Right.

Speaker 4 (42:12):
They ran that ball.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
We ran that ball, those guys did.

Speaker 4 (42:15):
We ran that sixty six? Miss sixty seven? You can
miss it passes.

Speaker 6 (42:19):
You missed a couple of tackles down the field the
way we were and they had a couple of rushing touchdowns.

Speaker 8 (42:23):
Yeah. Our interior is where you were worried the most. Yeah,
and you didn't have as many breakdowns as you thought.
And when you thought, uh, number seven Walker would be effective.
I don't even remember saying his name very much in
this contest.

Speaker 7 (42:37):
Had he had to play early what one of those
first two possessions where they punted he we were Will
was talking about Walker, remember his speed, and I said, oh, yeah,
there there it is.

Speaker 8 (42:52):
But after that, yeah, but to the point where you
thought he was gonna game wreck and be somebody that
you have to vaness. Uh the other number nine, their
other defensive end. So I was really I was really
happy about the offensive line that I didn't think about
the protection issues. But also Dak was dancing back there.
When he had to step up in the pocket, he did.
When he had to get out of pressure, get move

(43:13):
away from the pressure, he did. But he read their
coverages beautifully. And every time George Pickens was man the
man he got the ball, he didn't he didn't look
anywhere else. That's when he threw the rest of that
stuff out the window.

Speaker 6 (43:25):
I mean even on the touchdown, the little slant. Uh,
he looked at him the entire time. Yeah, I'm surprised
the safety didn't just come over there and make a
close and play.

Speaker 4 (43:35):
He did not take his eyes off like on the
slant on the little touchdown. The touchdown, yeah, yeah, a
little post so.

Speaker 7 (43:41):
And I think the other thing that needs to be applauded.
And I don't know if it came down to play calling,
but they neutralized Parsons right. Give credit to Clayton Adams
and Connor Riley, the offensive line coaches. Whatever they did,
whatever they devised, they.

Speaker 4 (44:00):
What was off starts playing the game. It ran right right,
right right. I was like, that's the week I was
telling you about right at them. That's the week I
told you that, did I at the Q and A yeah.

Speaker 8 (44:12):
But fortunately fortunately Shoty opened up his playbook after those
first couple of series called it tight.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
You know why he called it tight. It was the
field position.

Speaker 5 (44:22):
You can't call the game the same way when you're
starting at the eleven yard line on their on their
second possession, it was the Cowboys second possession they started
at the eleven yard line, the third possession at the
twelve yard line, and then finally the fourth possession at
the minus five yard line. And by the way, on
that one, they go ninety five yards in eleven plays

(44:46):
and it reminded me of Dak's rookie year. This was
right at the It was the final five minutes.

Speaker 4 (44:52):
Of that one text we all got.

Speaker 5 (44:54):
That's right, that's right. I read it, and it reminded
me of that drive. You were remember the drive his
rookie year at lambeau Field, And I went back and
looked it up, and that one was actually they got
the ball with a minute left at their own three
yard line and boom boom, boom, boom boom, touchdown to
Bryce Butler. And that's when I said, I think we

(45:15):
got something with this quarterback. And here we are nine
years later and we still got something.

Speaker 6 (45:20):
That was the longest scoring drive, and I think we
got something when he did that. I think we got
some in this game. That's when I knew that, Right,
everything's changed, That's exactly right.

Speaker 7 (45:28):
We think it was since maybe twenty twenty three, longest
scoring drive. It was the longest scoring drive of this
year and last year, I think too.

Speaker 5 (45:38):
Okay, And last minute here, injury wise, Sanders went out,
Hooker went out.

Speaker 4 (45:45):
What do we git?

Speaker 3 (45:46):
Went out guiding with a concussion protocol.

Speaker 7 (45:50):
I didn't hear anything more about the other two guys.

Speaker 5 (45:53):
Okay, and there could be some others too. I mean,
like we could go at this time. We had no
idea Tyler Booker was going to be out.

Speaker 8 (45:59):
No, so I think that what Murray went out for
a bit, but didn't he come back.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
He came back. He had a sprained ankle and came back.

Speaker 4 (46:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (46:06):
So and guiding with a concussion.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
You never know.

Speaker 7 (46:11):
Sanders and Hooker. I think I'm going to have to
look at which might open the door for Jadon Blue
because I heard that he was the last guy they
made inactive, that they were thinking of keeping him active.

Speaker 6 (46:24):
About the the cornerback revel uh.

Speaker 7 (46:32):
I would imagine they're going to start him practicing this
week and then just a couple of weeks back and
Mingo probably start practicing.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
This tried you passed his four weeks.

Speaker 4 (46:42):
Before we go.

Speaker 8 (46:43):
Nobody said anything about it, but marsh Leaf might have
actually caught up a felony with that hit.

Speaker 5 (46:52):
How about that special one?

Speaker 2 (46:54):
Yeah, that was very often that That's the last time
that Matthew Golden was going to make a spin move
on a punt return.

Speaker 4 (47:05):
Oh my god, I said that.

Speaker 5 (47:07):
That was a rookie move right there, trying to make
a spin move on a punt return.

Speaker 6 (47:12):
Oh my god, he didn't after that, by the way, Yeah,
that was his last pun.

Speaker 8 (47:18):
Yes it was. He didn't know where he was after that.
He talking about that was a more Oklahoma man. You
don't get that Cowboys game much at all.

Speaker 4 (47:28):
That was what a hit though. Good to see.

Speaker 8 (47:30):
That was another one of those things that kind of changed,
Like the crowd was waiting for something when that hit happened.
That crowd he erupted after that because we were surrounded.
But I want to tell you that too at and
T Stadium, you were surrounding.

Speaker 4 (47:43):
By the way, bunch of cheese hit.

Speaker 5 (47:45):
By the way, right after that, the Cowboys defense might
have had their only stop of the entire game on
that next year.

Speaker 4 (47:53):
After that hit.

Speaker 8 (47:54):
After that hit, I'm telling you, I was, I was like,
oh my god, I just want to I just wanted
Golden to get back up because that was a hell
of a hit.

Speaker 4 (48:01):
It was all right, good time.

Speaker 7 (48:04):
They've got some young guys. I think they can capitalize
on on the come, and you might as well play them.
Where's my man, Nate Newton, He'll tell you.

Speaker 5 (48:14):
I like Nate Thomas. I like what I saw from
Nate Thomas. At tackle, so absolutely all right. Well mcclay's
doing a job, all right. That does it for a
Monday edition of Mixed Shots. How about we do it
again Tuesday at high noon.

Speaker 4 (48:30):
He Mixed Shots on Go Cowboys, Come On.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
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