September 24, 2025 • 49 mins
Enough on the loss to the Bears, time to move on to the Green Bay Packers. And not just on how to deal with Micah Parsons’ return, but also focusing on an offense and quarterback Jordan Love, both a handful to deal with. Although how the Pack is using Micah.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
This is Nick Shot screaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com
and the official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones,
Heckma Harrison, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
It is a back to work Wednesday here inside the
SWBC podcast studio at the Beautiful Star in Frisco. Mickey
Spagnola's got his Green Bay Packer material out, the green
and gold of the Green Bay Packers, and we are
set to get you ready for Sunday Night football this week.
(00:52):
The Cowboys and the Packers. What a storied past between
these two teams, and what a must win situation. And
the Cowboys find themselves in here going into week four
of this season.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
So you know what the nickname is of their release
has been all these years.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
I do not.
Speaker 6 (01:11):
It's called the dope Sheet.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
The dope Sheet.
Speaker 6 (01:14):
Remember back in the day, I just need the dope.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
Like the news. They Oh wow, they went way back
the dope sheet, They went past the crack era.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
My mind went somewhere else.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
I know, I know what you guys got happen.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
But I'm back with you now. The dope sheet.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
So that was before the seventies.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
Yeah, yeah, this was dragnet time.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Maybe the late sixties is when dope became dope?
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, wow, Which was it happened?
Speaker 7 (01:53):
I'm a woodstock dope, Tell me this is good?
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Became dope?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Well, Mickey's got the dope on the Packers.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Apparently, let's go, and I have a dope.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
I haven't read no ropeidope either.
Speaker 6 (02:12):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Well, the guys this morning, I was driving in on
the fan. They were talking about going up against the
Cowboys defense and they said, yeah, the Packers are going
to throw at Will, And I go, Will.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
You don't everybody in the in the secondary name Will?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I don't have anybody named Zion either.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Any Well, Yeah, I got Rob off the practice squad
by the Texans.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
And he had been.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Elevated twice off the practice squad the last two games.
But I was thinking it was more of a depth
thing than anything else because he only got five special
team snaps.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
That's talking about Zion. Childrens impressed during training kid preseason
and games, and and CJ. Gardner Johnson was let go
by the Texans this week picked up quickly, Yes, picked
up quickly by the Eagles. Imagine that.
Speaker 8 (03:13):
I wasn't surprised at all. I figured they'd pick him
up right away.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Anyway, Yeah, they traded him away, and they got him
three games in the season, they got him back.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
How does that work.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Well, I think he complained his way out of Houston.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Because because he knew there was a landing spot in Philadelphia.
And so that's what prompted the Texans to poach Zion
Childress off the Cowboys practice squad. And as Mickey alluded to,
we were getting to a point with Zion Childress. He
just had one more elevation left and so the Cowboy
because you only get three during the season. He's already
(03:50):
been elevated to the varsity twice, and so they were
getting to a point where they're gonna have to make
a decision on Childress. Maybe anyway, you know, killed him
active for games.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
And Dress looked at it.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Oh, if they signed me off the practice squad, I
am guaranteed three game checks.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
So I believe he's from Houston.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
Too, Yes he is.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
And there was no you know, no decision on his
So first CJ. Johnson, the safety. When you get traded,
they trade your contract.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
But when you get released.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Contract Johnson, however, C J. Gardner john Yeah, I left
Gardner out. Your contract folds and then you got to
start again.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
So maybe the Eagles said, oh, now he's cheap.
Speaker 8 (04:41):
Yeah, that's exactly what That's exactly what it was. But
I feel like, going back to Childress my whole hang up,
and I was punching at the air when I heard
that he got signed by the Texans, by the way,
because of the drun Bland injury, he to me seemed
like the guy that would fit perfectly into the Nick
system ut until you know, being the nickel corner. I know,
(05:04):
Ready Ready Steward and guys like that have come on
as of late. We saw them in the running games,
support and things like that. But man, I really thought
that from what he did in preseason impressed upon the
coaches that he could handle that role. So man, now
that the clock on the run Bland to me, and
I know it's been all the speculation, and I'm sure
(05:24):
Mickey you have in that book somewhere what the original
timeline is going to be or how many snaps he's
going to play on Sunday if he plays at all.
But we still don't have that area resolved yet.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Unless that's a sign that they're encouraged that Bland's ready
to go, that they're thinking, okay, we probably wouldn't elevate
him if Bland's ready to go, that's my only thought.
Now we'll find out when they practice, right, You.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Still sore look with him as a corner or did
we look at him as a childress?
Speaker 4 (05:55):
He was. He was a slot corner and he did
perform well in training cap in pre seas. But when
they made the when they signed Reddy Stewart, they put him,
they released them and then got them back on the
practice squad. So something, something had to be missing. I'm
not sure what, because the Naked eye said this guy
was competing for the Nickels starting.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
And I was going to ask you, So we had
a chance to keep him. Yeah, we had a chance
to make our move before Houston took him off for
hands correct, Sure?
Speaker 3 (06:26):
I mean well, I would imagine when when Houston came
calling wanted to sign him. I would assume that the
children's agent talked to the Cowboys and said, what are
the chances here? And it should have been good.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
The chances should have been good. If he's a corner
and we're down on corners, then it should have been
good for us to keep him. And you talked about
how he played in the preseason, you know, you could
tell that was part of his DNA to be aggressive,
which is something that we're lacking on the offense on
the defensive side right now. So him being released, man,
(07:01):
because can't see what would make them say we don't need.
Speaker 8 (07:06):
To need him, especially with the way that you've been
attacked over the last couple of games. Because my mind
state has been hell, we need to comb every depth
chart in the NFL to try and find the cornerback guy.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
He was the guy.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
He was well practice squad.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
But and also look at the landscape.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
That means that they didn't value him enough to put
him on the fifty three.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Well, but he was also he was on the practice squad.
But and also he only had one elevation left to
get up on active on game day, okay, and so
then he's in limbo there. The Cowboys were going to
have to make a decision to add him to the
fifty three if they wanted him active, and he hadn't
as Mickey said, he hadn't been getting snaps. You've got
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Ready Stewart that they brought in after seeing him in
the preseason. They brought in another slot corner who's getting
playing time ahead of him. And then you've got when
savone rebel coming back well, and you gotsh Butler, and
you let these guys that are waiting in the wings
Kayln Carson. And so I think from children's perspective, it's
(08:09):
prudent on his part. Just knowing who's getting healthy, presumably
for the Cowboys in the next month, that is maybe
a better opportunity for him in his hometown in Houston.
Speaker 8 (08:21):
Clearly, Yeah, clearly that's going to happen. But Ready Stewart
already had a leg up on him being the previous
coach with the current coaches staf.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
So the Cowboys basically made the decision on it.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
And the only way the Cowboys could have kept him
that they'd have the money whip him, because I don't
know what Houston offered him, but you know, you can
offer more to keep them, but you got to put
him on the fifty three.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
And he's got a three game guarantee in Houston. Yeah,
he's got no guarantee whatsoever here because.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
He can come up.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
You know, he could sign him to the fifty three
off your practice squad and cut him the next week.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Yeah, I hate to see him go.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Yeah, no, it's doing business in the NFL.
Speaker 8 (08:58):
Well on your dope, she over there over there?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Do you see that?
Speaker 8 (09:04):
The Green Bay Packers offense is pretty dog one good.
Although that game versus the Cleveland Browns, if you love defense,
if you love defense, that was a defensive standoff and
I loved it.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Thirteen to ten.
Speaker 8 (09:18):
I know people hate scores like that, but I was
every possession to me, Well that's great.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
It's great, great coaching, great, great defense.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
I thought it was an exciting game.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
Actually, I didn't know the Packers offense. I thought it
was all defense.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Well, they do have an offense. Oh, we knew about
the webout the offense. What last year?
Speaker 6 (09:37):
I thought it was all about Mike.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
I didn't know they had anything else but the Micah
pack package.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
I'll tell you what. Cleveland Browns had something for the
Cleveland brown said something for that defense. It wore them down.
You could just I was watching the game and I'm
thinking to myself, Man, these guys did. They won't let
them off the hook. They won't let the offense off
the hook, and the Cleveland defense kept pounding and pounding.
Of course, the block field goal said everything to where
(10:05):
that was just a knockout blow, you know, I mean,
they were they were going low, they were going for
the kidney. They were getting with kidney, punching those guys
the whole game, and it finally wore out. It finally
came through an interfruition for Cleveland defensively in the end,
had no passing game, none at all. They got for
the little running game that they had, But by that
(10:26):
time Cleveland's defense had whooped the offense so badly that
the other offense couldn't. They were tired. You can see
at the end of the game Cleveland's defense was had
had more strength, They had momentum going into the last quarter.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
With the four minutes left in the game, the Packers
had a ten to nothing. Late they did it was
ten nothing Packers, and the Browns kicked a field goal
at three point thirty eight left to make it ten
to three, and then thirty seven seconds later, John Judkins
a touchdown and it's thirteen to ten and then or
(11:06):
rather it's ten ten and then the game winning field goal, Yeah,
came with a's time expired.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
I liked that.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
Yeah, I liked that guy coming out.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Junkins Chuckins, Yeah, from Ohio State.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
They had the two running backs, right, Henderson's the other one.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
I liked him.
Speaker 8 (11:23):
He's a physical and that's what I was looking at
for our guy, Javonte Williams. Just how physical Junkins was
coming downhill and that bowls well for us offensively. But
Miles Garrett in this and I'm obviously doing a comparison
looking at this and saying what do we have? Obviously
we have nothing, and I'm not comparing anybody to Miles Garrett.
But also guys like Malik Collins. You know him, right, MALIEK.
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Collins used to be here for a long time. But
that defensive front was the reason why they were in
that game because they were able to put pressure on
Jordan Love. But Jordan Love has an offensive system with
Lafleur that if we were thinking that outlast matchup was confusing,
and as far as the formations were concerned, Lafleur throws
a lot of stuff out there at you, and boy,
(12:07):
they have a running game that I think they can
get get behind and attack us on the edges. And
I don't think we've been attacked on the edges in
the first three games the way that Green Bay is
gonna challenge us. So guys like Dante Fowler staying a
linement assignment sound, I was gonna say, come on, now,
come on that.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
I just haven't heard much from him, not at all.
Speaker 8 (12:30):
Sam Williams, I mean, you're gonna need your edges. You're
gonna need your edge guys to come up big in
this game.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Well that's what's really been missing. Uh, It's almost like
everybody was focused down the middle. Okay, Kenny clark Osa,
gotta get something out of the defensive ends, and not
just not just a pass rush, but support.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
It in the run too.
Speaker 9 (12:51):
You know.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
I remember everybody was making a big deal out of
James Houston because he got a sack or something.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
That was okay, yeah, but watch him play the run.
There was a reason why he probably was not on
a team. I mean, you got to play the run.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
I remember, but saying that he was, he was behind
the defensive end who was being double team and he
didn't show either way. And that was a big run
by the Giants. With the Giants big run came right
in the hole where he was supposed to be.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
But having said that, the run hasn't heard him. It's
the inability to rush the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
You got to be able to do that.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
And I'm not talking about sacks. I'm talking about press pressure.
Get there, make them uncomfortable. You got quarterbacks in the
pocket tapping their feet or they're doing.
Speaker 10 (13:42):
Yeah, yeah, right, can can you explain what you just said?
That's right, thank you, triple pump.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
It was a weak pumps.
Speaker 8 (14:00):
Yeah, but I mean Josh, Josh Jacobs is off with
the guy that I'm talking about. And you're right, Mickey,
no one is per se run the ball on us.
But you know, Green Bays and Mo they're going to
try and stay balanced and they can milk this game through.
Uh they're running game. But Romeo Dobbs, if you know
any Romeo Dobbs is the guy that I'm looking at
(14:20):
it that I think that I don't know how you
play this. If you're gonna whatever Evil Flus is gonna do.
And I'm sure we're gonna talk about this in a minute,
but you have got to come into this game with
a plan to stop guys like Romeo Dobbs and Matthew
Golden because they got a ton of speed on the
outside and for where we're already hurting and having some
(14:42):
confusion on the back end, this is the bad time
to get a receiving call like this.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
But they do catch your breaking that. Jayden Reid's got
a broken collar bone and he's on injured reserves. Yeah,
they don't have to deal with him. But I mean,
as you mentioned Dobbs and then Golden there, you know,
also using a little bit in the run game. Savian
Williams roof he got a TCU, which I.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Like, what high school did you go to?
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Did?
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Is he here from? Here?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Must not be from ren He's not from he must
not be.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
Here.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
See you guys are usually from Louisiana or they recruit
the Houston area a lot. I'll look him up, but
but yeah, I mean, and I was just looking up
Aberflus against the Packers last year. Of course he was
no longer coaching the Bears the second time they played
last year, but the Packers beat him twenty to nineteen
in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
He was born in Marshall, so I'm a little.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
All right, East Texas. I was going to say East
Texas or Louisiana or Savian Fields.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
That's all right, right, there you go.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
But but you know, that's what the Packers have done
in the draft. What was it three years ago or whatever.
Those guys have got to be come and do on
their second contracts by now. They that's when they and
they just Christian Watson is on the injured reserve or
pump right now, hadn't played yet this season, coming off
yet another was it Hampshire a cl at the end
(16:11):
of last year. Yeah, but he's always had hamstring injuries
and so he's not playing. But he was the guy
with the bad hands, right, yeah, the bad hands allegedly Yeah, no, who.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
Caught three touchdowns again, it's a long story. When we
talked about it.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Yes, watching was a big, great book guy, and I
was called out on that because I can't catch. Yeah,
he got three touchdown passes that age well yeah, well
and the first game, first play of his NFL career,
he couldn't catch either, right yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (16:44):
Anyway, what do you guys think about the quarterback and
head coach relationship between Jordan Love and Matt Lafleur. I
mean the way that it's they got rid of, obviously,
a Hall of Fame quarterback and Aaron Rodgers for Jordan Love,
and they have seemingly taken off since that move from Rogers.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Well, it was two years ago, the second half of
the season. That's when Jordan Love took off at that point.
And you know, it was the same type of organizational
decision they made when they drafted Aaron Rodgers in the
first round and had Brett Farv and then he didn't
have to wait as long as Jordan Love did. But
and I'm not thinking yet that Jordan Love is Aaron Rodgers,
(17:28):
but he has shown that he has the capability to
get a really big contract, and.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
I'm sure it's less of a headache for the coach.
You know, he had to deal with a lot going
into Aaron Rodgers last year's and now having a young
stud like this one who has all the talent, but
now he has the ears to listen to you as well,
because I'm pretty sure Aaron Rodgers was doing more talking
than listening.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Well, yeah, obviously, but he had the advantage of sitting
there and watching for a while before you throw them
into the fire.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Yeah, unlike the Giants just the sudden.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Poor Giants. Yeah, poor Russ right, No, I mean.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
My boys tried to help him out.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
They did, didn't they well best?
Speaker 8 (18:14):
I mean, I just I'm seeing a quarterback that has
gotten his opportunity, making the most of his opportunity, and
now you give him a running game to go with it.
That's what makes it even more dangerous. And by the way,
we haven't even started talking about their defense, so those
things as a as a team in total, and looking
at the way that Lafleur trusts him now, before it
(18:34):
just seemed like he had training wheels on him. Wasn't
allowing him to throw certain throws. Now, man, he has
the full you know, play sheet at his disposal.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
I think I think two years ago they were pretty
satisfied with him, especially the way they ended up going
against us and almost beating the Niners. I thought that
two years ago they had taken the gloves off and
allowed him to be who he can be. Last year
was it was okay for him.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
But he got his four years, two hundred and twenty
million dollars And yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
And now that's why they were picking them even before
the Mica situation. They were picking them to at least
go to the NFC champion.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
So I heard someone say that in the off season
he got married Ron Stone's daughter.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
Oh really climbing here, Yeah yeah, wow, okay.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
Now we might want to check that out. I just
heard it and said, oh, Ron, well you just told
the world. Yeah, yeah, the whole world. Yeah, right now,
right now, you guys better be active.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Ron Stone's daughter.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
That's all good.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
That was just a side note.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
The side note that I heard wanted.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
From you don't get You don't usually get it from
Mickey though.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
Yeah, little social news.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Yeah right, and I remembered it by all right, just
getting started on this Wednesday edition. Where would you like
to go next?
Speaker 6 (19:57):
I think they're playing some guy, Michael Park.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
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Speaker 2 (22:56):
So are you saying, Jordan Love good? Jordan Love is
your turn.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
And the only reason Rust didn't get is because he
exactly he would have gotten.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
It, and he still would have got benched.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
The Cowboys three for three. Now did the other guys
get named?
Speaker 5 (23:14):
No, they didn't.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
You know, Russ Russ did not.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
I was thinking yeah, because he thinks I could have.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Yeah, and the first week Hurts would not have or
I mean Cowboys actually played. Although the Eagles were scoring
touchdowns every possession of the first half of that game.
And then but after the weather delay, Cowboys deep that
one the loan yeah we need, which is tough to
(23:41):
do at at and t STAPs impossible. All right, it's
the return of Micah. You don't want to put off
the hype any longer, Okay, you want to dive in? Yes, Okay,
I was.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
I was curious how the Packers were using them, and
so I watched. I didn't get a chance to watch
the game, but I watched a few plays, and they're
doing what the Cowboys did. Ye, no shock, They're moving
them around. But one of the things I noticed, and
I don't know if the Cowboys did this, or I
just didn't pay an attention. But when they've got him
(24:19):
on the outside, they are using the defensive tackle to
attack the guy that's blocking Micah. So it's almost like
he's hitting that guy to get him off, and if
the guard doesn't pick Micah up, he gets a free run.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
And I saw it repeatedly to.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
His stunt, his stunt, that's his favorite stunt.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
But I mean, I was thinking, you can loop, but
this guy's just off the line of scrimmage. The defensive
tackles going this way to get.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
If that's the case, it will still enhance a move
that he's already makes him. I think that enhances him
even more to to be able to get inside because
once he dips that right shoulder, man, it's hard to
keep him out of that backfield. And I think they're
only doing that on obvious passing downs.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Correct, Yeah, that's the key, you stay out of obvious
passing downs.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Good luck he is.
Speaker 6 (25:15):
He has played.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
He played sixty five percent of no I'm sorry, seventy
five snaps, seventy five percent of the snaps against against against.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
His back's okay, yeah, back's good.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
Yes, he's found as I said that specialist, that dollar sign.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Why did you take your man.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
So well?
Speaker 5 (25:44):
It took time to figure it out to keep his
faith in my set that Yeah, he knows exactly what
he's doing right over.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
He knows what's gonna trigger.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
You don't know how physically.
Speaker 8 (26:05):
Yeah, come on, man, they use him well, I mean
I think that is we We did that. Quinn did
that quite often with with Micah. But it's although Micah
is going to be the focus undoubtedly because he's returning
to a T and T stadium. Please watch Rashawn Garret please,
(26:25):
he's a load, yes, And and you watched in that
Cleveland game. Cleveland was you know, obviously not wanting to
let Michaeh disrupt the game, but eminently what they ended
up doing was letting guys like Rashaun Gary and Vaness
wreck their running game.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
You know.
Speaker 8 (26:41):
So it wasn't until they had to literally when they
were perfect and they blocked it up.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
They could not make any mistakes.
Speaker 8 (26:48):
And the Cleveland coach, to his to his credit, because
you know, for sure, he is a run heavy guy
and he did not want to come out of especially
with flock.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
Run heavy quarterback for something years old.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I'm just saying he's better be run heavy. But they
were run heavy before Flocker got there, you know.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
So the one thing is that when they could check down,
when they could finally try and find somebody at the second,
second level, Stefanski was making sure that they were finding
the open guy.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
And that's just the thing.
Speaker 8 (27:19):
When for Dak and his offense, when you finally get
it blocked up and there is no pressure and Dak
can step up in the pocket and deliver or throw,
you better make it count.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
The other thing I noticed, and I have to go
look his name up. Number seven was blitzing a lot.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
Yes, pay quay Walker kay Walker, way Walker, and he
was another one. He blitzed.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
Snicker, go ahead walk. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
I wanted to make sure I had it right.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
I remember Quay what It's just like if if Bicky
were doing a basketball show, they got this guy number seventy.
That's right, Luke Dum.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
And that's why a donkey, that's why I'm a writer broadcaster.
Because I look it up.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
You better know it.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
Gonna hear what seven did or not?
Speaker 5 (28:17):
Yes, we forgot about that.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
So he's blitzing up the middle. He's not trying to
get to the quarterback. He blitzed to try to get.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
The guy off of Micah.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
It's unfair and allow that.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
That's right, there should be a pal that's a pig player.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
They're picking on defense, right, he had no clue, He
had no ambition to get to the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Now, why is it a penalty on offense for a receiver?
Speaker 6 (28:44):
That right?
Speaker 4 (28:46):
But anyway, they better watch the offensive line, better have
some good eyes, That's all I gotta say, because they're
going to free him up if he can't free himself up.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
So I guess I trust right now with TJ Ban
stepping in.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
For how they're gonna pick on him.
Speaker 8 (29:02):
Of course they are that they would. They would have
picked on Tyler Booker if he was there.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
They're gonna pick on what you're okay, yeah, okay, So
what's your bigger concern on the offensive line? Interior guys
or exterior guys meeting Gary center guard or the two tackles.
I guess these against Michael.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
I'll still worry about the outside past room. But you
know what what Cleveland did.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
They ran the ball and they ran right at him too.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
By the way, did you you remember the guy from
the forty nine ers Fred Deane Ye, Yeah, MVP right
was MP that year? Nothing like that over l T
Right he got the m v P. He was not
a full time starter. He was another Michael Parsons, but
(29:53):
he only played. He played defensive end. If I'm not mistaken,
that guy didn't play the entire game. He was just
like Michael Parsons. They brought him in on passing downs and.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
He controlled not far from Grambling, not at all tech game.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
Not at all, not at all. That's why I brought
him up.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Nineteen eighty one, he was the NFC defensive player.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
Defensive Player of the Year, and he did not He
never started a game. He beat you out, Please bea
that was you got, Ronnie Loge, You got LT. About
the best defensive class in the history of the NFL.
Let me go there first.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Did they have Rookie of the Year back then?
Speaker 5 (30:35):
Yeah? Who got it? Do you think we got it? Oh?
Speaker 3 (30:39):
It was the same year.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
Yeah, LT got it. I came out with those guys.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
You were the same year as.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
Come on, man, I said, the best defensive class is
the history of including myself. Man, wind me up.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Nineteen eighty one.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
Nineteen eighty one Rookie Year fall for Queen Launch Table.
I did the Ricky Jack.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
I was in college North Carolina, Lawrence Taylor in North Carolina,
came to Norman, Oklahoma. The Sooners put a whooping on
him forty one to seven. Elt couldn't defend that wishbone.
But I guess that was I was thinking it was
nineteen eighty one, but it was nineteen eighty.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
I guess when thated. That's eighty when it happened, But
eighty one was when he got drafted.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Yeah, okay, you're still in college.
Speaker 7 (31:25):
M hm, okay, yep, I'm a young pups in grad school.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Yeah right, that was gad.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
That's when he's still eating Elmer's. That's law degree. That's
what he was, a law degree.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
In fact, I'm two days away from Quinton Law School
in nineteen eighty one. Twenty six, nineteen eighty one.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
Celebrate day.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
I quit law school after one month of law school.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
We'll play some different song on Friday. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Never lived that down, did you? His dad was like
I told you he did.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
He said, I told you you should never have gotten
to law school. All right, what else? Mickey Packers defense.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
Micah, Yeah, so he did you see the ap quote
from him, uh from yesterday. He said it's gonna it's
gonna pain him to if he gets to sack Troykman
dak Press is gonna be painful.
Speaker 6 (32:29):
He said, it's gonna he's gonna pain him in pain.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
But he didn't he didn't really clarify.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
No, he was he like it didn't want to hit him,
and you know darn well.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
Yeah, he meant that's his mentor. He don't want to
hurt his mentor. He means it's painful to be in
this situation to where he has to actually go up
against someone that he respects.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Will lay him down on a pillow that get there, Okay.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
Go hit don't lean on him, all right, don't strip
laid down all right, we'll.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
Take that all right, so he doesn't have to worry
about getting piled.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Hues that thing. I'm glad you said his backside would
be good because it's just Michael.
Speaker 8 (33:11):
Yeah right, well, I'll tell you what guys like guiding
and steal does. That's that's my worry going And nobody asked,
but I'm not.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
That's why I was asked posing it before. It's more
concerned the interior guys or the tackles.
Speaker 6 (33:26):
I can help.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
I can help the tackles, and they better put tight
ends over there or chipping with the running back and
not let those two guys out there to draw.
Speaker 5 (33:37):
That's what we did last week, right, they did a
little bit. Yeah, you gotta do a lot a bit
of that, and everybody has to ferguson again on the
you better believe.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
The other guys aren't getting open. I mean, who's your
other starter on the outside.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
It Tobert, right, my guy?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Yeah, and then your guy you know, come on, go.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
Three wide and just have turping. Be a gadget guy
and keep him guessing.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
You can't keep you can't. He can't be a gadget guy.
If he is out there, use him. But we're going.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
He has anything different, Let's continue running the ball and
let's use that play action to go deep. And I'm
not talking deep out, so I'm talking about taking the
cap off.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
If you're if you're the Green Bay defense, with all
the talents that you have up front, do you double
team George Pickens?
Speaker 5 (34:31):
Yes you do. Yes, you do because you have that luxury,
because you don't have anyone else that will threaten you.
On the other side, you have no tight end that's
going to threadn you you have, You're already gonna have
your safety down for that run. So let's just get
this man little help, possibly inside, maybe not over the top,
but definitely inside. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
I think that's why.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
If you run the ball, then the linebackers have to
be conscious of the run and they can't drop into
that hole in the zone where it messes up the
wide receives.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
It'd be nice to send third down down the scenes
every once in a while, like we did when we
got the game winn the field goals. I know it's
a different defense and they were lined up way back,
disrespecting the way all we kicks the ball. But man,
sometimes you got to use that athleticism for more than
just dump downs. Take that guy up the scenes, let's
make him make those linebackers work. They're gonna be looking
(35:24):
for the run, looking for the run, looking for the run. Man,
Let's take that thing up the scene and see what
we can do.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Or throw the ball Jen Blue.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
Is he playing? I don't know.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
I want to give them something else to think about.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
I understand, I understand you you could.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Put fourth game rookie season. What do you think I
mean it's about time, maybe about time home game.
Speaker 6 (35:48):
I promise you you're short on wide receivers.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
If he can't pick up the blitz, he can't play.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
It has nothing with his ability to play, his ability
to physically play. Does he is you're able to play.
That's what.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
He can't pick up chip, do all those things.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
None of trust him right now.
Speaker 6 (36:07):
Put him in when he doesn't have to pick up
the blitz.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Well, that's make it obviously flying.
Speaker 10 (36:14):
To be.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
How do you do that?
Speaker 6 (36:16):
You lind him up on the line of scrimmage and
go empty, and go empty throw it. You want to
put him in the slot, Yeah, yeah, just put his
speed on the field. They got to respect it. I
don't want I don't want to have him do him
a lot of thinking back there.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
Yeah, like you said in the backfield, that doesn't sound
like he's gonna get a jersey. It's gonna be Miles
Sanders in Williams again.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
You could hand it to him back there, pitch it
to him.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
It all sounds easy to you.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
Put the full back in thou Well, that's the chance
you gotta take, and the other two guys.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Have lost, you think, Jeff the Packers, Jeff Hafley, the
defensive coordinate.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
I don't know anything about Jaydon.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Okay, he's not gonna be pass protecting. They're gonna they're
gonna go into a thing if he's lining up, he's
not gonna be in a role where he's gonna be
pass protecting. Right at least, that's what they'll probably be thinking.
Speaker 5 (37:13):
Is that what his problem is?
Speaker 3 (37:15):
I mean he's a we'd just assuming that because of
a rookie.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
Well, I saw him pick up I saw him pick
up blitzeres in training camp, and he picked up blitzes
when he was healthy before he hurt himself.
Speaker 8 (37:27):
Yeah, well, these guys, the guys that we have Williams
and Miles Sanders, that's gonna have to be their mo
regardless of passing downs, picking up those blitzers, and you
talked about the stunts picking up Micah, They're gonna have
to stand in the in the fire, especially with kway
Walker that defense man.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
They are all over the place.
Speaker 8 (37:46):
And I mean when you had a defense that is
all eleven hats to the ball, everybody's flying around, That's
what I saw from them, Like man, they are lying.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
Once again, you saw a defense where everyone's in tune
to each other. It's like a hive mentality. Everyone. Once
one person sees it, everyone reacts to that. And that's
just the defense knowing what the offense is trying to do.
They're anticipating based on the look that you're giving them.
I never see how defense really doing that. We did
(38:15):
a little bit in the Philadelphia game. Can't remember us
doing it much at all except for the first drive
of the Chicago Bears to where we were in tune
to exactly what they were trying to do. And there
was more than one person therefore going to the ball.
And that's what you need with a good defense. You
got to have more than one person there. That's how
(38:36):
you create turnovers. That's how you just nullify an entire
running game is by everyone being on the same page.
We haven't shown that in the last two years. We
haven't shown that.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
They showed it other than Hertz in Philadelphia. Yeah, and
you got to have one guy get there by the
way before he can.
Speaker 6 (38:56):
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Speaker 3 (41:53):
Brian Schottenheimer's having a press conference as we speak. He
says the team will try out t J Bass, Trevor Keegan,
and Hakem Identergy at right guard this week in practice
to make up for Tyler Booker's absence.
Speaker 5 (42:10):
All three of them, huh.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
Try out tryout tryouts today and tomorrow to determine at
least they're on the team.
Speaker 5 (42:18):
They're not bringing them in.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
TJ. Bass, Trevor Keegan, the former Eagle, and Hakeem Identergy.
So which one would you trust.
Speaker 5 (42:29):
And like from an experience standpoint?
Speaker 3 (42:31):
You said, Well, Bass is played for the Cowboys before
Trevor Keegan came over from the Eagles. I would have
to look up if you got I think he's played
something before, right, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Yeah, I'll put them. I'd go t J. Bass.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
I mean Identergy's played, but Identity's played I played in
the league, right, Yeah, But but where was he playing
in training camp?
Speaker 5 (42:58):
He was playing at tackle jas He's got experienced he.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
Yeah, yeah, I'm less concerned again, less concerned about uh
the interior guys than the exterior guys here. All right,
well you can offensively.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
Wait wait, and I saw something that the right tackle
for Cleveland did the stunt Parsons poked him in the eye.
Speaker 6 (43:22):
Ah, second play of the game.
Speaker 5 (43:24):
Yeah, that didn't work. He didn't poke him hard enough.
Now whatever he did, he came back.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
You know what happened to that right tackle for Cleveland?
He was now on injured reserve.
Speaker 5 (43:36):
Jones.
Speaker 4 (43:39):
Well, yeah, Donergy's played forty four games. Uh huh, fifteen starts,
so but I think mostly a tackle.
Speaker 5 (43:49):
Yeah, you're right. Well I heard our coach Shody talking
about making changes yes on defense, and he said maybe
even personnel changes. So you got somebody in mind that
he and somebody. I would like to know who that is.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
I'd like to know one personnel changes. Zion Childress will
not be on the field.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
For the cow Well, he's gone.
Speaker 5 (44:14):
D's are safe, The dvs are safe, I guess. I
mean it's got to be defensive line. It's got to
be defensive line if you're talking about.
Speaker 6 (44:24):
But they play everybody no getting no pressure.
Speaker 4 (44:28):
It's not like the starters are playing ninety percent of
the snaps I'm looking at linebackers.
Speaker 6 (44:36):
They don't who are the backup linebackers?
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Backup linebackers are well Sam James.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
Leahoul and Demon Clark or and Clark's thirty yeah, yeah,
and leah Foul has been out there to about six
or seven snaps against As.
Speaker 5 (44:54):
For as secondary is concerned, And I know I keep
talking about this, but do guys know what they're supposed
to be doing? You got to go into a game
to where they have to know what they're doing. If
we go into a game with confusion, what have we
been doing all week as coaches? If the players don't
(45:15):
know what the hell they're doing, raise your damn hands,
somebody says something.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
Ask the question.
Speaker 5 (45:19):
Because the chain is only as strong as what is
weakest link. And we got a bunch of weak links
on this defense right now. And I get it that
there are a lot of people are injured. I get that,
but a person has to realize what position he's playing
when he's out there. Are you playing cornerback? Yes, I'm
playing cornerback. What's your job? Play that wide receiver? What
(45:42):
about in the zone? I gotta get deep in my zone.
I mean it doesn't take much in a zone. A
zone is about knowing where you're supposed to be and
from there, that's recognition. And I just I just wonder
why we're not recognizing as well because we're giving up
record breaking numbers. These are not just oh we're having
(46:02):
a bad game. No, we're giving up record breaking numbers
right now.
Speaker 6 (46:06):
Yards that's a lot of singing.
Speaker 5 (46:09):
That's a lot, man, you and a lot of that.
A lot of that was mistakes. It was not just
being beaten one on one.
Speaker 6 (46:18):
Okay, So how many plays can they get out of Clowney?
Speaker 2 (46:20):
That's the that's the that's the million dollar question right there.
Speaker 6 (46:24):
And if I can get because that's the only change
they can make.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go fifth. If we're rapping
him up, making a specialty player, I'm going to go
between fifteen and twenty.
Speaker 5 (46:36):
And that sounds reasonable, Yeah, right, fifteen the last time we.
Speaker 6 (46:39):
Played January, first week in January.
Speaker 5 (46:42):
Oh, he's going more than that, he's more.
Speaker 6 (46:46):
You're banking on fresh lakes.
Speaker 5 (46:48):
Yeah, well he better go more. He just got through
in January, played last year. No, he needs to ramp
up more than that, quicker than that. We just don't
have a choice.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
Chott Nimer said Clowney will work more this week and
they're working to get him active. Added he's doing everything
and trending towards playing on Sunday. But let's see how
today's practice, see how this week goes before any determined.
Speaker 5 (47:11):
What do they say about Bland.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
I'm not seeing anything yet reportedly on Bland.
Speaker 5 (47:17):
So when he talks about making changes, then that's the obvious.
Well he'll get talking about.
Speaker 4 (47:22):
He'll get some snaps for somebody else, right right, But linebackers,
you've got what you got to me if till Marvin
gets there.
Speaker 5 (47:32):
Here's my thing. You already know when you're playing man
to man if you blitz, if I were them, let's
just take all the zone mistakes out of it and
let's just be more aggressive on how we make our calls.
So I'm going to send more than four because we
haven't gotten pressure with that at all.
Speaker 6 (47:49):
See if I got Bland out there, I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (47:52):
Seon Nimer says, Bland is trending towards playing Sunday. Oh okay,
they we're building momentum here.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
There's your pressure.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
There's two personnel changes right there for you.
Speaker 6 (48:03):
That's what he means, and then the Calvary's coming over
the hill next.
Speaker 5 (48:08):
Week once again, once again, if you have if you have.
Speaker 4 (48:15):
The rest of the cornerbacks, they would be eligible to
I don't know if they can play.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
And then all because you said fifth week at the season.
Speaker 5 (48:24):
And then we're gonna be making up excuses about them. Well,
they just got out there. Man, Look somebody got freaking play.
I mean, I'm you know, I'm.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
Thinking you are you trending, George?
Speaker 2 (48:34):
I have to have to is all good?
Speaker 4 (48:37):
But you could you need a communication helmet, you know,
and tell the corner Okay, here's what you do.
Speaker 5 (48:48):
Now what there you go? Gotch what's on the field?
Speaker 3 (48:52):
All right, how about we do it again tomorrow?
Speaker 2 (48:54):
I'd love to.
Speaker 3 (48:55):
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This is Nick Shot screaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com
and the official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones,
Heckma Harrison, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
It is a back to work Wednesday here inside the
SWBC podcast studio at the Beautiful Star in Frisco. Mickey
Spagnola's got his Green Bay Packer material out, the green
and gold of the Green Bay Packers, and we are
set to get you ready for Sunday Night football this week.
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The Cowboys and the Packers. What a storied past between
these two teams, and what a must win situation. And
the Cowboys find themselves in here going into week four
of this season.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
So you know what the nickname is of their release
has been all these years.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
I do not.
Speaker 6 (01:11):
It's called the dope Sheet.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
The dope Sheet.
Speaker 6 (01:14):
Remember back in the day, I just need the dope.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
Like the news. They Oh wow, they went way back
the dope sheet, They went past the crack era.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
My mind went somewhere else.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
I know, I know what you guys got happen.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
But I'm back with you now. The dope sheet.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
So that was before the seventies.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
Yeah, yeah, this was dragnet time.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Maybe the late sixties is when dope became dope?
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, wow, Which was it happened?
Speaker 7 (01:53):
I'm a woodstock dope, Tell me this is good?
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Became dope?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Well, Mickey's got the dope on the Packers.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Apparently, let's go, and I have a dope.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
I haven't read no ropeidope either.
Speaker 6 (02:12):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Well, the guys this morning, I was driving in on
the fan. They were talking about going up against the
Cowboys defense and they said, yeah, the Packers are going
to throw at Will, And I go, Will.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
You don't everybody in the in the secondary name Will?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I don't have anybody named Zion either.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Any Well, Yeah, I got Rob off the practice squad
by the Texans.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
And he had been.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Elevated twice off the practice squad the last two games.
But I was thinking it was more of a depth
thing than anything else because he only got five special
team snaps.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
That's talking about Zion. Childrens impressed during training kid preseason
and games, and and CJ. Gardner Johnson was let go
by the Texans this week picked up quickly, Yes, picked
up quickly by the Eagles. Imagine that.
Speaker 8 (03:13):
I wasn't surprised at all. I figured they'd pick him
up right away.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Anyway, Yeah, they traded him away, and they got him
three games in the season, they got him back.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
How does that work.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Well, I think he complained his way out of Houston.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Because because he knew there was a landing spot in Philadelphia.
And so that's what prompted the Texans to poach Zion
Childress off the Cowboys practice squad. And as Mickey alluded to,
we were getting to a point with Zion Childress. He
just had one more elevation left and so the Cowboy
because you only get three during the season. He's already
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been elevated to the varsity twice, and so they were
getting to a point where they're gonna have to make
a decision on Childress. Maybe anyway, you know, killed him
active for games.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
And Dress looked at it.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Oh, if they signed me off the practice squad, I
am guaranteed three game checks.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
So I believe he's from Houston.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
Too, Yes he is.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
And there was no you know, no decision on his
So first CJ. Johnson, the safety. When you get traded,
they trade your contract.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
But when you get released.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Contract Johnson, however, C J. Gardner john Yeah, I left
Gardner out. Your contract folds and then you got to
start again.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
So maybe the Eagles said, oh, now he's cheap.
Speaker 8 (04:41):
Yeah, that's exactly what That's exactly what it was. But
I feel like, going back to Childress my whole hang up,
and I was punching at the air when I heard
that he got signed by the Texans, by the way,
because of the drun Bland injury, he to me seemed
like the guy that would fit perfectly into the Nick
system ut until you know, being the nickel corner. I know,
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Ready Ready Steward and guys like that have come on
as of late. We saw them in the running games,
support and things like that. But man, I really thought
that from what he did in preseason impressed upon the
coaches that he could handle that role. So man, now
that the clock on the run Bland to me, and
I know it's been all the speculation, and I'm sure
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Mickey you have in that book somewhere what the original
timeline is going to be or how many snaps he's
going to play on Sunday if he plays at all.
But we still don't have that area resolved yet.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Unless that's a sign that they're encouraged that Bland's ready
to go, that they're thinking, okay, we probably wouldn't elevate
him if Bland's ready to go, that's my only thought.
Now we'll find out when they practice, right, You.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Still sore look with him as a corner or did
we look at him as a childress?
Speaker 4 (05:55):
He was. He was a slot corner and he did
perform well in training cap in pre seas. But when
they made the when they signed Reddy Stewart, they put him,
they released them and then got them back on the
practice squad. So something, something had to be missing. I'm
not sure what, because the Naked eye said this guy
was competing for the Nickels starting.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
And I was going to ask you, So we had
a chance to keep him. Yeah, we had a chance
to make our move before Houston took him off for
hands correct, Sure?
Speaker 3 (06:26):
I mean well, I would imagine when when Houston came
calling wanted to sign him. I would assume that the
children's agent talked to the Cowboys and said, what are
the chances here? And it should have been good.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
The chances should have been good. If he's a corner
and we're down on corners, then it should have been
good for us to keep him. And you talked about
how he played in the preseason, you know, you could
tell that was part of his DNA to be aggressive,
which is something that we're lacking on the offense on
the defensive side right now. So him being released, man,
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because can't see what would make them say we don't need.
Speaker 8 (07:06):
To need him, especially with the way that you've been
attacked over the last couple of games. Because my mind
state has been hell, we need to comb every depth
chart in the NFL to try and find the cornerback guy.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
He was the guy.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
He was well practice squad.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
But and also look at the landscape.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
That means that they didn't value him enough to put
him on the fifty three.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Well, but he was also he was on the practice squad.
But and also he only had one elevation left to
get up on active on game day, okay, and so
then he's in limbo there. The Cowboys were going to
have to make a decision to add him to the
fifty three if they wanted him active, and he hadn't
as Mickey said, he hadn't been getting snaps. You've got
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Ready Stewart that they brought in after seeing him in
the preseason. They brought in another slot corner who's getting
playing time ahead of him. And then you've got when
savone rebel coming back well, and you gotsh Butler, and
you let these guys that are waiting in the wings
Kayln Carson. And so I think from children's perspective, it's
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prudent on his part. Just knowing who's getting healthy, presumably
for the Cowboys in the next month, that is maybe
a better opportunity for him in his hometown in Houston.
Speaker 8 (08:21):
Clearly, Yeah, clearly that's going to happen. But Ready Stewart
already had a leg up on him being the previous
coach with the current coaches staf.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
So the Cowboys basically made the decision on it.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
And the only way the Cowboys could have kept him
that they'd have the money whip him, because I don't
know what Houston offered him, but you know, you can
offer more to keep them, but you got to put
him on the fifty three.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
And he's got a three game guarantee in Houston. Yeah,
he's got no guarantee whatsoever here because.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
He can come up.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
You know, he could sign him to the fifty three
off your practice squad and cut him the next week.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Yeah, I hate to see him go.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Yeah, no, it's doing business in the NFL.
Speaker 8 (08:58):
Well on your dope, she over there over there?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Do you see that?
Speaker 8 (09:04):
The Green Bay Packers offense is pretty dog one good.
Although that game versus the Cleveland Browns, if you love defense,
if you love defense, that was a defensive standoff and
I loved it.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Thirteen to ten.
Speaker 8 (09:18):
I know people hate scores like that, but I was
every possession to me, Well that's great.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
It's great, great coaching, great, great defense.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
I thought it was an exciting game.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
Actually, I didn't know the Packers offense. I thought it
was all defense.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Well, they do have an offense. Oh, we knew about
the webout the offense. What last year?
Speaker 6 (09:37):
I thought it was all about Mike.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
I didn't know they had anything else but the Micah
pack package.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
I'll tell you what. Cleveland Browns had something for the
Cleveland brown said something for that defense. It wore them down.
You could just I was watching the game and I'm
thinking to myself, Man, these guys did. They won't let
them off the hook. They won't let the offense off
the hook, and the Cleveland defense kept pounding and pounding.
Of course, the block field goal said everything to where
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that was just a knockout blow, you know, I mean,
they were they were going low, they were going for
the kidney. They were getting with kidney, punching those guys
the whole game, and it finally wore out. It finally
came through an interfruition for Cleveland defensively in the end,
had no passing game, none at all. They got for
the little running game that they had, But by that
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time Cleveland's defense had whooped the offense so badly that
the other offense couldn't. They were tired. You can see
at the end of the game Cleveland's defense was had
had more strength, They had momentum going into the last quarter.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
With the four minutes left in the game, the Packers
had a ten to nothing. Late they did it was
ten nothing Packers, and the Browns kicked a field goal
at three point thirty eight left to make it ten
to three, and then thirty seven seconds later, John Judkins
a touchdown and it's thirteen to ten and then or
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rather it's ten ten and then the game winning field goal, Yeah,
came with a's time expired.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
I liked that.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
Yeah, I liked that guy coming out.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Junkins Chuckins, Yeah, from Ohio State.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
They had the two running backs, right, Henderson's the other one.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
I liked him.
Speaker 8 (11:23):
He's a physical and that's what I was looking at
for our guy, Javonte Williams. Just how physical Junkins was
coming downhill and that bowls well for us offensively. But
Miles Garrett in this and I'm obviously doing a comparison
looking at this and saying what do we have? Obviously
we have nothing, and I'm not comparing anybody to Miles Garrett.
But also guys like Malik Collins. You know him, right, MALIEK.
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Collins used to be here for a long time. But
that defensive front was the reason why they were in
that game because they were able to put pressure on
Jordan Love. But Jordan Love has an offensive system with
Lafleur that if we were thinking that outlast matchup was confusing,
and as far as the formations were concerned, Lafleur throws
a lot of stuff out there at you, and boy,
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they have a running game that I think they can
get get behind and attack us on the edges. And
I don't think we've been attacked on the edges in
the first three games the way that Green Bay is
gonna challenge us. So guys like Dante Fowler staying a
linement assignment sound, I was gonna say, come on, now,
come on that.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
I just haven't heard much from him, not at all.
Speaker 8 (12:30):
Sam Williams, I mean, you're gonna need your edges. You're
gonna need your edge guys to come up big in
this game.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Well that's what's really been missing. Uh, It's almost like
everybody was focused down the middle. Okay, Kenny clark Osa,
gotta get something out of the defensive ends, and not
just not just a pass rush, but support.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
It in the run too.
Speaker 9 (12:51):
You know.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
I remember everybody was making a big deal out of
James Houston because he got a sack or something.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
That was okay, yeah, but watch him play the run.
There was a reason why he probably was not on
a team. I mean, you got to play the run.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
I remember, but saying that he was, he was behind
the defensive end who was being double team and he
didn't show either way. And that was a big run
by the Giants. With the Giants big run came right
in the hole where he was supposed to be.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
But having said that, the run hasn't heard him. It's
the inability to rush the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
You got to be able to do that.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
And I'm not talking about sacks. I'm talking about press pressure.
Get there, make them uncomfortable. You got quarterbacks in the
pocket tapping their feet or they're doing.
Speaker 10 (13:42):
Yeah, yeah, right, can can you explain what you just said?
That's right, thank you, triple pump.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
It was a weak pumps.
Speaker 8 (14:00):
Yeah, but I mean Josh, Josh Jacobs is off with
the guy that I'm talking about. And you're right, Mickey,
no one is per se run the ball on us.
But you know, Green Bays and Mo they're going to
try and stay balanced and they can milk this game through.
Uh they're running game. But Romeo Dobbs, if you know
any Romeo Dobbs is the guy that I'm looking at
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it that I think that I don't know how you
play this. If you're gonna whatever Evil Flus is gonna do.
And I'm sure we're gonna talk about this in a minute,
but you have got to come into this game with
a plan to stop guys like Romeo Dobbs and Matthew
Golden because they got a ton of speed on the
outside and for where we're already hurting and having some
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confusion on the back end, this is the bad time
to get a receiving call like this.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
But they do catch your breaking that. Jayden Reid's got
a broken collar bone and he's on injured reserves. Yeah,
they don't have to deal with him. But I mean,
as you mentioned Dobbs and then Golden there, you know,
also using a little bit in the run game. Savian
Williams roof he got a TCU, which I.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Like, what high school did you go to?
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Did?
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Is he here from? Here?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Must not be from ren He's not from he must
not be.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
Here.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
See you guys are usually from Louisiana or they recruit
the Houston area a lot. I'll look him up, but
but yeah, I mean, and I was just looking up
Aberflus against the Packers last year. Of course he was
no longer coaching the Bears the second time they played
last year, but the Packers beat him twenty to nineteen
in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
He was born in Marshall, so I'm a little.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
All right, East Texas. I was going to say East
Texas or Louisiana or Savian Fields.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
That's all right, right, there you go.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
But but you know, that's what the Packers have done
in the draft. What was it three years ago or whatever.
Those guys have got to be come and do on
their second contracts by now. They that's when they and
they just Christian Watson is on the injured reserve or
pump right now, hadn't played yet this season, coming off
yet another was it Hampshire a cl at the end
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of last year. Yeah, but he's always had hamstring injuries
and so he's not playing. But he was the guy
with the bad hands, right, yeah, the bad hands allegedly Yeah, no, who.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
Caught three touchdowns again, it's a long story. When we
talked about it.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Yes, watching was a big, great book guy, and I
was called out on that because I can't catch. Yeah,
he got three touchdown passes that age well yeah, well
and the first game, first play of his NFL career,
he couldn't catch either, right yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (16:44):
Anyway, what do you guys think about the quarterback and
head coach relationship between Jordan Love and Matt Lafleur. I
mean the way that it's they got rid of, obviously,
a Hall of Fame quarterback and Aaron Rodgers for Jordan Love,
and they have seemingly taken off since that move from Rogers.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Well, it was two years ago, the second half of
the season. That's when Jordan Love took off at that point.
And you know, it was the same type of organizational
decision they made when they drafted Aaron Rodgers in the
first round and had Brett Farv and then he didn't
have to wait as long as Jordan Love did. But
and I'm not thinking yet that Jordan Love is Aaron Rodgers,
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but he has shown that he has the capability to
get a really big contract, and.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
I'm sure it's less of a headache for the coach.
You know, he had to deal with a lot going
into Aaron Rodgers last year's and now having a young
stud like this one who has all the talent, but
now he has the ears to listen to you as well,
because I'm pretty sure Aaron Rodgers was doing more talking
than listening.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Well, yeah, obviously, but he had the advantage of sitting
there and watching for a while before you throw them
into the fire.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Yeah, unlike the Giants just the sudden.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Poor Giants. Yeah, poor Russ right, No, I mean.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
My boys tried to help him out.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
They did, didn't they well best?
Speaker 8 (18:14):
I mean, I just I'm seeing a quarterback that has
gotten his opportunity, making the most of his opportunity, and
now you give him a running game to go with it.
That's what makes it even more dangerous. And by the way,
we haven't even started talking about their defense, so those
things as a as a team in total, and looking
at the way that Lafleur trusts him now, before it
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just seemed like he had training wheels on him. Wasn't
allowing him to throw certain throws. Now, man, he has
the full you know, play sheet at his disposal.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
I think I think two years ago they were pretty
satisfied with him, especially the way they ended up going
against us and almost beating the Niners. I thought that
two years ago they had taken the gloves off and
allowed him to be who he can be. Last year
was it was okay for him.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
But he got his four years, two hundred and twenty
million dollars And yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
And now that's why they were picking them even before
the Mica situation. They were picking them to at least
go to the NFC champion.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
So I heard someone say that in the off season
he got married Ron Stone's daughter.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
Oh really climbing here, Yeah yeah, wow, okay.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
Now we might want to check that out. I just
heard it and said, oh, Ron, well you just told
the world. Yeah, yeah, the whole world. Yeah, right now,
right now, you guys better be active.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Ron Stone's daughter.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
That's all good.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
That was just a side note.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
The side note that I heard wanted.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
From you don't get You don't usually get it from
Mickey though.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
Yeah, little social news.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Yeah right, and I remembered it by all right, just
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Speaker 6 (19:57):
I think they're playing some guy, Michael Park.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
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Speaker 2 (22:56):
So are you saying, Jordan Love good? Jordan Love is
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Speaker 5 (23:01):
And the only reason Rust didn't get is because he
exactly he would have gotten.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
It, and he still would have got benched.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
The Cowboys three for three. Now did the other guys
get named?
Speaker 5 (23:14):
No, they didn't.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
You know, Russ Russ did not.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
I was thinking yeah, because he thinks I could have.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Yeah, and the first week Hurts would not have or
I mean Cowboys actually played. Although the Eagles were scoring
touchdowns every possession of the first half of that game.
And then but after the weather delay, Cowboys deep that
one the loan yeah we need, which is tough to
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I was.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
I was curious how the Packers were using them, and
so I watched. I didn't get a chance to watch
the game, but I watched a few plays, and they're
doing what the Cowboys did. Ye, no shock, They're moving
them around. But one of the things I noticed, and
I don't know if the Cowboys did this, or I
just didn't pay an attention. But when they've got him
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on the outside, they are using the defensive tackle to
attack the guy that's blocking Micah. So it's almost like
he's hitting that guy to get him off, and if
the guard doesn't pick Micah up, he gets a free run.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
And I saw it repeatedly to.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
His stunt, his stunt, that's his favorite stunt.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
But I mean, I was thinking, you can loop, but
this guy's just off the line of scrimmage. The defensive
tackles going this way to get.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
If that's the case, it will still enhance a move
that he's already makes him. I think that enhances him
even more to to be able to get inside because
once he dips that right shoulder, man, it's hard to
keep him out of that backfield. And I think they're
only doing that on obvious passing downs.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Correct, Yeah, that's the key, you stay out of obvious
passing downs.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Good luck he is.
Speaker 6 (25:15):
He has played.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
He played sixty five percent of no I'm sorry, seventy
five snaps, seventy five percent of the snaps against against against.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
His back's okay, yeah, back's good.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
Yes, he's found as I said that specialist, that dollar sign.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Why did you take your man.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
So well?
Speaker 5 (25:44):
It took time to figure it out to keep his
faith in my set that Yeah, he knows exactly what
he's doing right over.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
He knows what's gonna trigger.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
You don't know how physically.
Speaker 8 (26:05):
Yeah, come on, man, they use him well, I mean
I think that is we We did that. Quinn did
that quite often with with Micah. But it's although Micah
is going to be the focus undoubtedly because he's returning
to a T and T stadium. Please watch Rashawn Garret please,
(26:25):
he's a load, yes, And and you watched in that
Cleveland game. Cleveland was you know, obviously not wanting to
let Michaeh disrupt the game, but eminently what they ended
up doing was letting guys like Rashaun Gary and Vaness
wreck their running game.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
You know.
Speaker 8 (26:41):
So it wasn't until they had to literally when they
were perfect and they blocked it up.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
They could not make any mistakes.
Speaker 8 (26:48):
And the Cleveland coach, to his to his credit, because
you know, for sure, he is a run heavy guy
and he did not want to come out of especially
with flock.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
Run heavy quarterback for something years old.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I'm just saying he's better be run heavy. But they
were run heavy before Flocker got there, you know.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
So the one thing is that when they could check down,
when they could finally try and find somebody at the second,
second level, Stefanski was making sure that they were finding
the open guy.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
And that's just the thing.
Speaker 8 (27:19):
When for Dak and his offense, when you finally get
it blocked up and there is no pressure and Dak
can step up in the pocket and deliver or throw,
you better make it count.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
The other thing I noticed, and I have to go
look his name up. Number seven was blitzing a lot.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
Yes, pay quay Walker kay Walker, way Walker, and he
was another one. He blitzed.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
Snicker, go ahead walk. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
I wanted to make sure I had it right.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
I remember Quay what It's just like if if Bicky
were doing a basketball show, they got this guy number seventy.
That's right, Luke Dum.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
And that's why a donkey, that's why I'm a writer broadcaster.
Because I look it up.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
You better know it.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
Gonna hear what seven did or not?
Speaker 5 (28:17):
Yes, we forgot about that.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
So he's blitzing up the middle. He's not trying to
get to the quarterback. He blitzed to try to get.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
The guy off of Micah.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
It's unfair and allow that.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
That's right, there should be a pal that's a pig player.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
They're picking on defense, right, he had no clue, He
had no ambition to get to the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Now, why is it a penalty on offense for a receiver?
Speaker 6 (28:44):
That right?
Speaker 4 (28:46):
But anyway, they better watch the offensive line, better have
some good eyes, That's all I gotta say, because they're
going to free him up if he can't free himself up.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
So I guess I trust right now with TJ Ban
stepping in.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
For how they're gonna pick on him.
Speaker 8 (29:02):
Of course they are that they would. They would have
picked on Tyler Booker if he was there.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
They're gonna pick on what you're okay, yeah, okay, So
what's your bigger concern on the offensive line? Interior guys
or exterior guys meeting Gary center guard or the two tackles.
I guess these against Michael.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
I'll still worry about the outside past room. But you
know what what Cleveland did.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
They ran the ball and they ran right at him too.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
By the way, did you you remember the guy from
the forty nine ers Fred Deane Ye, Yeah, MVP right
was MP that year? Nothing like that over l T
Right he got the m v P. He was not
a full time starter. He was another Michael Parsons, but
(29:53):
he only played. He played defensive end. If I'm not mistaken,
that guy didn't play the entire game. He was just
like Michael Parsons. They brought him in on passing downs and.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
He controlled not far from Grambling, not at all tech game.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
Not at all, not at all. That's why I brought
him up.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Nineteen eighty one, he was the NFC defensive player.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
Defensive Player of the Year, and he did not He
never started a game. He beat you out, Please bea
that was you got, Ronnie Loge, You got LT. About
the best defensive class in the history of the NFL.
Let me go there first.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Did they have Rookie of the Year back then?
Speaker 5 (30:35):
Yeah? Who got it? Do you think we got it? Oh?
Speaker 3 (30:39):
It was the same year.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
Yeah, LT got it. I came out with those guys.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
You were the same year as.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
Come on, man, I said, the best defensive class is
the history of including myself. Man, wind me up.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Nineteen eighty one.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
Nineteen eighty one Rookie Year fall for Queen Launch Table.
I did the Ricky Jack.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
I was in college North Carolina, Lawrence Taylor in North Carolina,
came to Norman, Oklahoma. The Sooners put a whooping on
him forty one to seven. Elt couldn't defend that wishbone.
But I guess that was I was thinking it was
nineteen eighty one, but it was nineteen eighty.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
I guess when thated. That's eighty when it happened, But
eighty one was when he got drafted.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Yeah, okay, you're still in college.
Speaker 7 (31:25):
M hm, okay, yep, I'm a young pups in grad school.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Yeah right, that was gad.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
That's when he's still eating Elmer's. That's law degree. That's
what he was, a law degree.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
In fact, I'm two days away from Quinton Law School
in nineteen eighty one. Twenty six, nineteen eighty one.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
Celebrate day.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
I quit law school after one month of law school.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
We'll play some different song on Friday. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Never lived that down, did you? His dad was like
I told you he did.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
He said, I told you you should never have gotten
to law school. All right, what else? Mickey Packers defense.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
Micah, Yeah, so he did you see the ap quote
from him, uh from yesterday. He said it's gonna it's
gonna pain him to if he gets to sack Troykman
dak Press is gonna be painful.
Speaker 6 (32:29):
He said, it's gonna he's gonna pain him in pain.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
But he didn't he didn't really clarify.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
No, he was he like it didn't want to hit him,
and you know darn well.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
Yeah, he meant that's his mentor. He don't want to
hurt his mentor. He means it's painful to be in
this situation to where he has to actually go up
against someone that he respects.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Will lay him down on a pillow that get there, Okay.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
Go hit don't lean on him, all right, don't strip
laid down all right, we'll.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
Take that all right, so he doesn't have to worry
about getting piled.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Hues that thing. I'm glad you said his backside would
be good because it's just Michael.
Speaker 8 (33:11):
Yeah right, well, I'll tell you what guys like guiding
and steal does. That's that's my worry going And nobody asked,
but I'm not.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
That's why I was asked posing it before. It's more
concerned the interior guys or the tackles.
Speaker 6 (33:26):
I can help.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
I can help the tackles, and they better put tight
ends over there or chipping with the running back and
not let those two guys out there to draw.
Speaker 5 (33:37):
That's what we did last week, right, they did a
little bit. Yeah, you gotta do a lot a bit
of that, and everybody has to ferguson again on the
you better believe.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
The other guys aren't getting open. I mean, who's your
other starter on the outside.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
It Tobert, right, my guy?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Yeah, and then your guy you know, come on, go.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
Three wide and just have turping. Be a gadget guy
and keep him guessing.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
You can't keep you can't. He can't be a gadget guy.
If he is out there, use him. But we're going.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
He has anything different, Let's continue running the ball and
let's use that play action to go deep. And I'm
not talking deep out, so I'm talking about taking the
cap off.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
If you're if you're the Green Bay defense, with all
the talents that you have up front, do you double
team George Pickens?
Speaker 5 (34:31):
Yes you do. Yes, you do because you have that luxury,
because you don't have anyone else that will threaten you.
On the other side, you have no tight end that's
going to threadn you you have, You're already gonna have
your safety down for that run. So let's just get
this man little help, possibly inside, maybe not over the top,
but definitely inside. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
I think that's why.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
If you run the ball, then the linebackers have to
be conscious of the run and they can't drop into
that hole in the zone where it messes up the
wide receives.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
It'd be nice to send third down down the scenes
every once in a while, like we did when we
got the game winn the field goals. I know it's
a different defense and they were lined up way back,
disrespecting the way all we kicks the ball. But man,
sometimes you got to use that athleticism for more than
just dump downs. Take that guy up the scenes, let's
make him make those linebackers work. They're gonna be looking
(35:24):
for the run, looking for the run, looking for the run. Man,
Let's take that thing up the scene and see what
we can do.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Or throw the ball Jen Blue.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
Is he playing? I don't know.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
I want to give them something else to think about.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
I understand, I understand you you could.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Put fourth game rookie season. What do you think I
mean it's about time, maybe about time home game.
Speaker 6 (35:48):
I promise you you're short on wide receivers.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
If he can't pick up the blitz, he can't play.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
It has nothing with his ability to play, his ability
to physically play. Does he is you're able to play.
That's what.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
He can't pick up chip, do all those things.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
None of trust him right now.
Speaker 6 (36:07):
Put him in when he doesn't have to pick up
the blitz.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Well, that's make it obviously flying.
Speaker 10 (36:14):
To be.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
How do you do that?
Speaker 6 (36:16):
You lind him up on the line of scrimmage and
go empty, and go empty throw it. You want to
put him in the slot, Yeah, yeah, just put his
speed on the field. They got to respect it. I
don't want I don't want to have him do him
a lot of thinking back there.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
Yeah, like you said in the backfield, that doesn't sound
like he's gonna get a jersey. It's gonna be Miles
Sanders in Williams again.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
You could hand it to him back there, pitch it
to him.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
It all sounds easy to you.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
Put the full back in thou Well, that's the chance
you gotta take, and the other two guys.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Have lost, you think, Jeff the Packers, Jeff Hafley, the
defensive coordinate.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
I don't know anything about Jaydon.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Okay, he's not gonna be pass protecting. They're gonna they're
gonna go into a thing if he's lining up, he's
not gonna be in a role where he's gonna be
pass protecting. Right at least, that's what they'll probably be thinking.
Speaker 5 (37:13):
Is that what his problem is?
Speaker 3 (37:15):
I mean he's a we'd just assuming that because of
a rookie.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
Well, I saw him pick up I saw him pick
up blitzeres in training camp, and he picked up blitzes
when he was healthy before he hurt himself.
Speaker 8 (37:27):
Yeah, well, these guys, the guys that we have Williams
and Miles Sanders, that's gonna have to be their mo
regardless of passing downs, picking up those blitzers, and you
talked about the stunts picking up Micah, They're gonna have
to stand in the in the fire, especially with kway
Walker that defense man.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
They are all over the place.
Speaker 8 (37:46):
And I mean when you had a defense that is
all eleven hats to the ball, everybody's flying around, That's
what I saw from them, Like man, they are lying.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
Once again, you saw a defense where everyone's in tune
to each other. It's like a hive mentality. Everyone. Once
one person sees it, everyone reacts to that. And that's
just the defense knowing what the offense is trying to do.
They're anticipating based on the look that you're giving them.
I never see how defense really doing that. We did
(38:15):
a little bit in the Philadelphia game. Can't remember us
doing it much at all except for the first drive
of the Chicago Bears to where we were in tune
to exactly what they were trying to do. And there
was more than one person therefore going to the ball.
And that's what you need with a good defense. You
got to have more than one person there. That's how
(38:36):
you create turnovers. That's how you just nullify an entire
running game is by everyone being on the same page.
We haven't shown that in the last two years. We
haven't shown that.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
They showed it other than Hertz in Philadelphia. Yeah, and
you got to have one guy get there by the
way before he can.
Speaker 6 (38:56):
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Speaker 3 (41:53):
Brian Schottenheimer's having a press conference as we speak. He
says the team will try out t J Bass, Trevor Keegan,
and Hakem Identergy at right guard this week in practice
to make up for Tyler Booker's absence.
Speaker 5 (42:10):
All three of them, huh.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
Try out tryout tryouts today and tomorrow to determine at
least they're on the team.
Speaker 5 (42:18):
They're not bringing them in.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
TJ. Bass, Trevor Keegan, the former Eagle, and Hakeem Identergy.
So which one would you trust.
Speaker 5 (42:29):
And like from an experience standpoint?
Speaker 3 (42:31):
You said, Well, Bass is played for the Cowboys before
Trevor Keegan came over from the Eagles. I would have
to look up if you got I think he's played
something before, right, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Yeah, I'll put them. I'd go t J. Bass.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
I mean Identergy's played, but Identity's played I played in
the league, right, Yeah, But but where was he playing
in training camp?
Speaker 5 (42:58):
He was playing at tackle jas He's got experienced he.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
Yeah, yeah, I'm less concerned again, less concerned about uh
the interior guys than the exterior guys here. All right,
well you can offensively.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
Wait wait, and I saw something that the right tackle
for Cleveland did the stunt Parsons poked him in the eye.
Speaker 6 (43:22):
Ah, second play of the game.
Speaker 5 (43:24):
Yeah, that didn't work. He didn't poke him hard enough.
Now whatever he did, he came back.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
You know what happened to that right tackle for Cleveland?
He was now on injured reserve.
Speaker 5 (43:36):
Jones.
Speaker 4 (43:39):
Well, yeah, Donergy's played forty four games. Uh huh, fifteen starts,
so but I think mostly a tackle.
Speaker 5 (43:49):
Yeah, you're right. Well I heard our coach Shody talking
about making changes yes on defense, and he said maybe
even personnel changes. So you got somebody in mind that
he and somebody. I would like to know who that is.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
I'd like to know one personnel changes. Zion Childress will
not be on the field.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
For the cow Well, he's gone.
Speaker 5 (44:14):
D's are safe, The dvs are safe, I guess. I
mean it's got to be defensive line. It's got to
be defensive line if you're talking about.
Speaker 6 (44:24):
But they play everybody no getting no pressure.
Speaker 4 (44:28):
It's not like the starters are playing ninety percent of
the snaps I'm looking at linebackers.
Speaker 6 (44:36):
They don't who are the backup linebackers?
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Backup linebackers are well Sam James.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
Leahoul and Demon Clark or and Clark's thirty yeah, yeah,
and leah Foul has been out there to about six
or seven snaps against As.
Speaker 5 (44:54):
For as secondary is concerned, And I know I keep
talking about this, but do guys know what they're supposed
to be doing? You got to go into a game
to where they have to know what they're doing. If
we go into a game with confusion, what have we
been doing all week as coaches? If the players don't
(45:15):
know what the hell they're doing, raise your damn hands,
somebody says something.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
Ask the question.
Speaker 5 (45:19):
Because the chain is only as strong as what is
weakest link. And we got a bunch of weak links
on this defense right now. And I get it that
there are a lot of people are injured. I get that,
but a person has to realize what position he's playing
when he's out there. Are you playing cornerback? Yes, I'm
playing cornerback. What's your job? Play that wide receiver? What
(45:42):
about in the zone? I gotta get deep in my zone.
I mean it doesn't take much in a zone. A
zone is about knowing where you're supposed to be and
from there, that's recognition. And I just I just wonder
why we're not recognizing as well because we're giving up
record breaking numbers. These are not just oh we're having
(46:02):
a bad game. No, we're giving up record breaking numbers
right now.
Speaker 6 (46:06):
Yards that's a lot of singing.
Speaker 5 (46:09):
That's a lot, man, you and a lot of that.
A lot of that was mistakes. It was not just
being beaten one on one.
Speaker 6 (46:18):
Okay, So how many plays can they get out of Clowney?
Speaker 2 (46:20):
That's the that's the that's the million dollar question right there.
Speaker 6 (46:24):
And if I can get because that's the only change
they can make.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go fifth. If we're rapping
him up, making a specialty player, I'm going to go
between fifteen and twenty.
Speaker 5 (46:36):
And that sounds reasonable, Yeah, right, fifteen the last time we.
Speaker 6 (46:39):
Played January, first week in January.
Speaker 5 (46:42):
Oh, he's going more than that, he's more.
Speaker 6 (46:46):
You're banking on fresh lakes.
Speaker 5 (46:48):
Yeah, well he better go more. He just got through
in January, played last year. No, he needs to ramp
up more than that, quicker than that. We just don't
have a choice.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
Chott Nimer said Clowney will work more this week and
they're working to get him active. Added he's doing everything
and trending towards playing on Sunday. But let's see how
today's practice, see how this week goes before any determined.
Speaker 5 (47:11):
What do they say about Bland.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
I'm not seeing anything yet reportedly on Bland.
Speaker 5 (47:17):
So when he talks about making changes, then that's the obvious.
Well he'll get talking about.
Speaker 4 (47:22):
He'll get some snaps for somebody else, right right, But linebackers,
you've got what you got to me if till Marvin
gets there.
Speaker 5 (47:32):
Here's my thing. You already know when you're playing man
to man if you blitz, if I were them, let's
just take all the zone mistakes out of it and
let's just be more aggressive on how we make our calls.
So I'm going to send more than four because we
haven't gotten pressure with that at all.
Speaker 6 (47:49):
See if I got Bland out there, I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (47:52):
Seon Nimer says, Bland is trending towards playing Sunday. Oh okay,
they we're building momentum here.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
There's your pressure.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
There's two personnel changes right there for you.
Speaker 6 (48:03):
That's what he means, and then the Calvary's coming over
the hill next.
Speaker 5 (48:08):
Week once again, once again, if you have if you have.
Speaker 4 (48:15):
The rest of the cornerbacks, they would be eligible to
I don't know if they can play.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
And then all because you said fifth week at the season.
Speaker 5 (48:24):
And then we're gonna be making up excuses about them. Well,
they just got out there. Man, Look somebody got freaking play.
I mean, I'm you know, I'm.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
Thinking you are you trending, George?
Speaker 2 (48:34):
I have to have to is all good?
Speaker 4 (48:37):
But you could you need a communication helmet, you know,
and tell the corner Okay, here's what you do.
Speaker 5 (48:48):
Now what there you go? Gotch what's on the field?
Speaker 3 (48:52):
All right, how about we do it again tomorrow?
Speaker 2 (48:54):
I'd love to.
Speaker 3 (48:55):
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