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September 26, 2025 51 mins
Fight Song Friday starts off with a bang, talking about Cowboys Hall of Fame quarterback Roger Staubach making a surprise visit to The Star during Brian Schottenheimer’s Friday press conference, poking his head into the room to meet the Cowboys head coach. Then it’s about Micah’s return, picks to click and Roger’s presence changing one pick.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
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Speaker 1 (00:20):
This is Mick Shot screaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
And the official Dallas Cowboys app now Here are Bill Jones,
Hecma Harrison, Everson Walls, and Mickey Spagnola.

Speaker 4 (00:47):
Go Dallas Cowboy. Howdy folks. Welcome to the Great State

(01:22):
Fair of Mix Shots, the first day of the Great
State Fair of Texas and two days away from the
return of Mike to at and T Stadium. Oh yeah,
one day away from the State Fair Classic Grambling in
Prairie View tomorrow night. Neverson Walls will or will not

(01:42):
be in attendance. I will okay, You'll be there in
the spirit up going to that. Welcome to a fight
Song Friday edition of Mixshow. Yeah, it's a great day
to be alive. Yes, it is at football equipment on
the football field, football players about to be out there.
And boy do we got a Sunday night football match

(02:03):
up this week? Aren't we excited?

Speaker 2 (02:06):
I'm exciting.

Speaker 5 (02:06):
The crew is already here.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
The Sunday Night Football crew are here. Have you seen
Mike Trico in the house saw Collins.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Could this be written? Can you guys hear me?

Speaker 6 (02:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Could this be written any better? You know? I mean,
who knew.

Speaker 5 (02:23):
Like the Monday night Sunday night.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
They knew that Micah was going to be a packer,
and so they made it a Sunday night game Peacock.

Speaker 6 (02:34):
So some things just right themselves.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
Right, And they even scheduled it deep enough into the
season where Mica is over his back injury and.

Speaker 6 (02:43):
Just in time full health.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Now, just in time.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
Oh he's still on the he's still on the injury report.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah, got health.

Speaker 6 (02:52):
You didn't get the memo on the quarter zip? Huh?
Everybody's got the quarter zips on you? Oh man, I didn't. Okay,
next time the quarter zip.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
Pridyday, not T shirt. He does have the right branding though,
I get that Nike branding there, So that's good.

Speaker 7 (03:13):
All right.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
We got so much to get to and so little
time to get there.

Speaker 5 (03:18):
Listening to Schottenheimer today, What now you listen to Brian?

Speaker 2 (03:23):
I heard.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
I did not listen to him, but I heard some
tidbits from it. Why would you like to fill us in?

Speaker 5 (03:30):
Please guess who walked into the building during the press conference.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
Oh, you're talking about his press. I thought you was
talking about Scott Radio Roger stuff.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
But I saw him walking. You know, we got the
glass room there. First, I saw Darren Woodson.

Speaker 6 (03:50):
In the lobby.

Speaker 5 (03:51):
He had to pick something up and went back to
his office. And then I looked and it's like Roger
just walked in the lobby.

Speaker 6 (03:58):
I think he was.

Speaker 5 (03:59):
It was his sun right, and I was going, okay, well,
I haven't seen him in a while. And next thing
I know, David Brucey, the Cowboys assistant PR director, opens
the door. Shottenheimer's talking, and Roger walks in. Right. Shotten
Hier gets up and go, oh, my.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
Gosh, my favorite. Claire.

Speaker 5 (04:21):
He goes he had never met Roger. Wow, that's Roger right.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Right there in the middle. Right.

Speaker 6 (04:29):
Oh yeah, I love it. That's how you do it.
That's how you do it.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Right, come on.

Speaker 5 (04:33):
And he got up and walked off the podium and
shook hands with him and I don't welcome to man. Uh,
he said, I got my favorite. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
I got the verbatim on it right here. Schottenheimer said,
oh my goodness, gracious, I will stop what I'm doing
for this. Roger said, this is my favorite coach, Shottenheimer.
You look good, Stabach, I can still throw.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
You throw.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
I'm such a Cowboy fan, Coach.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
I'm by you. I always say that shot.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
I appreciate that. Great seeing you, Starbuck. I still love
the Cowboys. It's amazing how when I sit down and
watch the Cowboys game, I feel like I'm out there
right now. We're okay, but we're gonna get better. Shot
An Eimer, no doubt that's the plan.

Speaker 5 (05:18):
Oh, somebody transcribed it that fast, right, Yeah, that's pretty good.

Speaker 8 (05:23):
Yeah, you don't ask Roger about competing in anything because
he swears he can still.

Speaker 5 (05:28):
I can still throw with the young boys.

Speaker 8 (05:30):
They had to stop him from playing the three on
three basketball, if you guys remember that. Yeah, he's out there,
old dude, out there with all them young brothers. Man,
and you know they're trying to make a rep on
the staff Roger starback.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
They want to dunk on him and play the man.

Speaker 8 (05:44):
Roger, get out there, kick your butt, but watch out,
he'll throw some hands on the military training.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah, man.

Speaker 5 (05:49):
And then he exits and he goes sorry to interrupt,
and it's like, are you.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Of course he did? Of course you.

Speaker 5 (05:57):
Helped build this do what you want, right, Roger Stabach,
all right?

Speaker 4 (06:02):
How about and then how about Jerry? He was on
the radio today. Did you catch Cherry? I got a
quote from him, if you like for me to share it.

Speaker 5 (06:09):
Out A bunch of stuff I wrote down.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
That he cad But go ahead, okay. I just asked
you are you excited? I asked the group, here are
we excited about Sunday night? Ever since was the first
to say, yes, I'm excited.

Speaker 9 (06:20):
Yea.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
Here's Jerry on the radio this morning. I'm so excited.
I hope our fans are. Man, don't think we can't
get them. We can get them here. Let's go.

Speaker 6 (06:30):
I wrote that down.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
We can get them.

Speaker 5 (06:32):
We can get them here.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
So there you go. You fired up yet?

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (06:37):
Plenty fired up? And also knowing that they are fired
up Friday six and oh they are six at at
and T Stadium.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
It's three quarters.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
Wait, fight song Friday, quarters of Friday and fired up Friday.

Speaker 6 (06:51):
You go, okay, I got you, but six and oh
in our building, something's got to be done about it.
And it just it really does seem like from it
everyone that is interpreting this game that Green Bay is
miles ahead offensively and defensively. And if I'm a Dallas
cowboy man, I am, I can't wait till Sunday night.
I mean, in a situation where nobody's giving you a

(07:12):
shot to win and you're a professional and you put
your pants on just like those guys. You got to
be a little pissed off about this. If you're in
that locker room over.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
There, if you're the coach or you are you selling
that to them that this is what these guys say.
Look at the line on the game. I mean it's
a home game and it's six and a half. Wow,
six and a half boys favorite a lot Packers.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (07:35):
As far as I'm concerned, I think we start looking
at the totality of where we've been so far. One
and two the Eagles game. Everyone wants to forget about that.
We played well, our defense actually acted like they had
some sense and knew what they were doing. We're not
if you want to be optimistic about this, We're not
that far away from that first game. We're not that

(07:58):
far away from our offensive growing enough points against the
defensive line that actually was pretty good. With the New
York Giants forty we put forty burg on those guys
all right now we talking about Chicago.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
We went back to our same.

Speaker 8 (08:12):
Old beings that we were last year in some big games,
to where we just didn't show up. If we're going
to be optimistic about this, this season is pretty much
on track to where I thought it was going to be. Really,
I knew, I assume that we started off slower than
we actually did. And I said it in here that

(08:35):
as we get as the season goes on, we will
get better.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
I said that more than once in this room.

Speaker 5 (08:41):
Has it gone on long enough.

Speaker 8 (08:43):
This we're still early early. It's still early. It's still
in early season. No team has ironed out everything yet.
No one can say, Okay, we have a handle on
this season right now already, and we have our identity.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
Thursday night game last night, Okay, in the course of
that game, okay, just in the course of that game.
Here's Seattle. How made they score last week? And then
they just forty eight points something like? The last couple
of weeks, they've just been lights out. Their defense is
playing great, shutting the loss of San Francisco the first
week of the season, and they are they are basically

(09:19):
blowing out Arizona to the point that the Cardinals are
getting booed off the field for the first three quarters
of that game. But Seattle's only got a twenty to
six lead.

Speaker 8 (09:30):
Defensive Arizona had that defensive lineman and those guys, Yes
and Kyless, there's thirty nine old, they grown man.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
And he's been doing it for about twenty years.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
And then he is haling. He was halding his business man.

Speaker 5 (09:47):
I just wish they went to the war uniforms.

Speaker 6 (09:49):
That looked dirty.

Speaker 4 (09:51):
Yeah yeah, but anyway, So anyway, then Arizona, through the
boo Birds, their own boo Birds at home, comes back
and they tie the thing up.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Not going to take that, and uh come on.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
And but what I'm saying is, through the course of
that game, it looked like that Seattle team is so
much better than this Arizona team. And then all of
a sudden it gets down to an even game. You know,
that's just what the league is.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Would you have gone for two, no one.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
No way, But in hindsight I would have gone yeah, yeah,
I was yelling at the TV, they better not go
for two here, right because well and one of the
reasons because of the Arizona defense. Okay, Arizona's got to
look at it. We tie this game, We might get
out of here with a tie if we can get
through a ten minute over time here.

Speaker 8 (10:37):
Yeah, but then you gather your kick has got to
be smarter. Yeah, exactly, I was explaining. If I wouldn't know,
I said, Wow, they came back. I said, as long
as they get a good kick right here. And I
couldn't even get it out of my mouth. As long
as they get a good kickoff right here, you know,
we might looking at it. Overtime comes up and shure
enough as it went off his foot, what was he trying.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
To do was trying to place it in the landing
zone and with a chance that they might fumble it
or what kind of like what we're talking about those
knuckleball kickoffs, whatever, and or at least you get it
into the landing zone and it goes into the end
zone where they get the ball at the twenty yard line.
Keep it simple, baby, did or whatever?

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Keep it simple? Right? You told Outsmart yourself that wrong time.
And I want to see who.

Speaker 8 (11:24):
The special teams coach is, because I'm sure he had
the bright idea to do that.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Because you you don't even want to do that to
give them.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
A chance not to be able to execute it, right,
What makes you.

Speaker 5 (11:34):
Think that, well, that's what everybody's doing. Well, he didn't
do it, but I now understand the city previously.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
But the situation is there's twenty seven seconds left in
the game and you cannot afford to give them the
football at the forty yard line, not at.

Speaker 10 (11:51):
The forty who the whole defense that you have given
him at thirty five I would have gone, I would
have kicked it normal down to the goal line and
inside or whatever and cover the kick and or they
let it go into the end zone.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
I guarantee that's what he was trying to do.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
He just hit a line.

Speaker 6 (12:11):
What really confuses me about this new NFL is outsmarting.
What simple processes are it used to be even with
the rules change. And I understand what you're talking about.
If it gets out of the landing zone, whether it's
advanced to a certain place or guys aren't able to
you know, at least pick it up and get it
to the forty but you volunteer that to them. And
even when it gets like situational awareness in the NFL,

(12:33):
regardless of PFF analytics, all of that stuff just the
simple mistakes and the kind of mistakes that used to
get guys fired they make all the time now.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Later on in the season. He could have been if
it was a time like that.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
Sometimes you make simple mistakes in the secondary to get
you burn too. Sometimes you would go up and press
a receiver and then you haven't been practicing, and we
will by cowboys. Sometimes sometimes the team runs a flea
flicker and you're blowing up. We scrimmage and yet you.

Speaker 5 (13:06):
Know, you know what, you know what cowboy fans would
have said.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
Well, you scored too, soons.

Speaker 6 (13:12):
You left time on the clock. Oh man, you don't
give cowboy fans.

Speaker 5 (13:19):
Way any time, dame.

Speaker 6 (13:21):
So you don't think we press, You think press coverage
is gone. You think you just take that and throw
it in the back of the room somewhere and say
we're never going back to that defense again.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
Wow.

Speaker 8 (13:30):
I don't know about the defense, but the technique, yes,
the technique, don't use that techn what the defense is called.
As long as your technique is good, we're gonna be okay.
But as long as you boy, you're supposed to be
And I heard Jerry Jones actually talking about that this morning.
He sounded like he was listening to everything we said.
We've said in this room, listened to listen old heads.

(13:54):
Now it's time you started listening to Come on man,
you know, he said, you know what, maybe I can
relate to these guys because we're the oldest guys in
this hud.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
Would it be that he might be the only person
older than us?

Speaker 8 (14:12):
I trust somebody the other day, I'm like, I'm always
the oldest person now, I said, except for the podcast,
I'm the oldest person everywhere.

Speaker 6 (14:18):
Well I'm finally on the podcast where I'm the youngest first,
so give me credit for that. I was going to
ask you about Trayvon Diggs. Okay, obviously, with the injuries
and and Mickey, you've talked about him, you know, possibly
starting on I R from the beginning of the season,
but he didn't at this point with some of the
mistakes that you've seen him make in the secondary, are

(14:39):
you Are you at the point where you're like, look,
this guy just isn't healthy enough to get this done.
I mean, I know they've played him a lot of snaps,
but just some of the miscues, you're not seeing a
shadow of the player that you once knew he was.

Speaker 10 (14:53):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (14:53):
In this season.

Speaker 8 (14:55):
I look at it like this, the mental mistakes, they
can be taken care. He's a veteran, he's a pro,
he knows how to do that. The guy got eleven
interceptions in one season. Obviously he's got some type of tality.
We all know that. What bothered me once again was
not just his technique, but his inability to make up

(15:16):
for it for the mistakes that he made. Physically, he
wasn't able.

Speaker 6 (15:20):
To make up speed catch take.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Up speed, catch up speed.

Speaker 8 (15:23):
He wasn't able to turn and react and the way
DB's is supposed to do with the quickness and an explosion.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
I didn't see explosion. And that's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 6 (15:32):
That's what you saw that on the ball with Malik Neighbors,
and you saw that last week as well. I mean,
it's one thing you see a guy that obviously has
the ability. You talk about the eleven interceptions, but that
seems like a far cry from the athlete that we
used to see.

Speaker 8 (15:47):
And I will say this, when you're mentally frustrated and
you're chasing that guy or that guy beat you quickly
off the line scrimmage, you're running with regret. I've been
there to where you know, you see him up there
like damn, I can't believe I let it get by me,
and you're thinking about what you just did versus what

(16:09):
you need to do, meaning like the urgency to go
and catch this guy. And I've been there to where
you're like, damn. I mean one time a guy beat
me on a comeback and go. They did a rollout,
did a comeback and go, and in my head, I
couldn't stop myself actually hand damn catching. I ended up catching, But.

Speaker 5 (16:29):
I'm like, god, damn, that didn't slow you down.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
It did, but that was slower.

Speaker 8 (16:34):
So that's why they got to come back and go.

Speaker 5 (16:36):
Well, he suffered a little shoulder deal in the game,
that's why he came out, but on the injury report
that they have knee on there, but it's not necessarily
the knee that was being rehabed. So you know, he
spent a little time riding the bike yesterday in practice,
but he practiced.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
So you know, full participant.

Speaker 6 (16:59):
Hass been a.

Speaker 5 (17:00):
While since those two guys have been on the field together.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
And he would not very often that will happen.

Speaker 5 (17:06):
Because Bland was out there. I think that's how they
got to go.

Speaker 6 (17:10):
Yeah, absolutely, And I know it's all hands on deck.
You know, you got to have it. You talk about
the cavalry coming and all of that. But even Bland
dealing with the foot injury, how what are we expecting
from him athletically after going through a foot injury last
season and now dealing with another nagging on a pitch count.

Speaker 5 (17:30):
Yeah, he might be, but I think he's he's ready
to go. I mean he's out there with his helbanon
and his shoulder pads or shells and going through, you know,
all the drills that were allowed to see. So I
think from you know what, shot he said, they're good
to go. They got to watch it though, so.

Speaker 8 (17:52):
Well, you know, to me, it's early enough in the
season to where you can't test it. You know, you
don't necessarily have to wait for him to ramp up
or whatever I think is I think if he feels
comfortable enough to test it himself. I think some of
these players they know their body is better than what
the we have guys, Mike.

Speaker 5 (18:11):
And when they asked Shotty about Clowney, how much can
he do? He said, I hope a lot. So it
doesn't sound.

Speaker 8 (18:18):
Like this this is shaping up to be an interesting matchup.

Speaker 5 (18:22):
He said, he's very, very excited to play Mickey.

Speaker 6 (18:27):
You watched him in practice and you talked about how
big he was, but once you saw him in his suit,
they showed a picture of Clowney just kind of like he.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Looked a little thin.

Speaker 5 (18:35):
No, he's real thin.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah, to me, thinner than He's.

Speaker 5 (18:39):
Not built like a defensive end. Okay, but he's tall,
he's lanky. His hands go down to his knees. I
swear to God. At one time I saw him running
and he did something with it wasn't just running, And
I said, he looked like a gazelle, just all arms,
legs all over the place. Right, I would probably think,

(19:04):
I'm thinking the only hope is maybe he scares the guy. Right,
look at this coming at.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Me, Oh, like venom. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (19:14):
So they got that at least going for him.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 5 (19:19):
Schottenheimer tried to put a you know, a good look
on the fact that Hoffman and Bass have played next
to each other since they played together second team.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
It is official. TJ. Bass is starting at right guard.
Shottenheimer said this press conference.

Speaker 5 (19:34):
He did yes, did I miss that?

Speaker 4 (19:38):
Did he say it's been tweeted, So you must have huh.

Speaker 5 (19:42):
I didn't know that. He came right out. He just basically, well,
he said they've played together, so he mentioned that.

Speaker 6 (19:48):
Yeah, hinting, is it there?

Speaker 5 (19:50):
I mean, the other two guys they talked about were
just you know, backups, their next guy up if they
need them. But yeah, he's he's going to start for sure.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
Two minutes ago, Nick Harris tweeted, it will officially be
t J. Bassett right yard on Sunday per Brian Schottenheimer.

Speaker 6 (20:06):
Okay, all right, it's official now. Nick Harris tweeted, Harris,
let's go.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
It's official. All right, we got so much to get to.
I mean, check the rundown.

Speaker 6 (20:15):
That's okay right now.

Speaker 8 (20:20):
Ever, since what we talk about Michael's return, baby, that's.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Exactly where I was going to.

Speaker 4 (20:26):
We got to talk about we turned. We've been putting
it off long enough. We talked Micah's return when we
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Speaker 4 (23:07):
Right, I'm gonna talk Micah.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
No, No, what do you got? You got what?

Speaker 4 (23:15):
I'm coming up with my pick?

Speaker 2 (23:16):
That's for next second. Okay, got very we got.

Speaker 4 (23:21):
Very interesting for my pick next segment.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Well, all right, I want to know you go ahead.
No tribute, no trip, no tribut tribute or should there be?

Speaker 5 (23:33):
Did you get one?

Speaker 2 (23:34):
No?

Speaker 8 (23:36):
I got a few booze, I got a few those
bolt you. Oh come on, man, they booed me when
I was with the Cowboy. That's the way it goes.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
Why would there be a tribute?

Speaker 2 (23:46):
I don't think it would should be. No.

Speaker 5 (23:48):
No, I think guys, I think turned that have played
far longer than him and better.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
And all I all I say, all, I say all
I was.

Speaker 5 (23:58):
We got an NFL leading sure return.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah that's yeah.

Speaker 8 (24:02):
There's no doubt Bat, no doubt Bat. But but I
like it just as far as the hype of the game,
I wouldn't. I'm not talking about a tribute, but I
like the way that they're hyping the game now, through
the through the media, through Peacock. Given they had some
commercial I believe came down the pipe. That's all good
stuff to me. That's enough. That's enough. It lets us
know that he was a force here. It lets us

(24:25):
know that people are going to be looking forward to
him coming back, and some looking for him to get
whooped up and some will some are looking for would
make plays and then to show Jerry up.

Speaker 6 (24:34):
Just acknowledge you would you would you any.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
Tribute video type deal for a former player here would
be someone who would be Ring of Honor worthy?

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah, no doubt, right, no doubt.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
And that's four years You're a not Ring.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Of Honor Worthy?

Speaker 4 (24:51):
No, all right, So that's a side all right? What
do you think?

Speaker 2 (24:56):
What?

Speaker 4 (24:57):
What are you thinking on? What the scene's going to be? Like,
what's going through Micah's mind?

Speaker 8 (25:03):
I want to know what the game plan is going
to be. Okay, how are we going to attack him? Right,
That's what I want to say. I want to see if,
as you've been saying, don't play well against the run.
That's something that we've known, You've seen it throughout the season,
you pointed that out. I want to see if that
continues that same pattern. Now, one thing I did see
was they put him in doing crucial parts of the game,

(25:23):
and he has come through. He has made other people
make mistakes, and he has created opportunities for other players
as well.

Speaker 4 (25:29):
You know what else happened in the end of that game,
their last game against Cleveland. Once they had the blocked
field goal, Cleveland did and then they had the ball
about the forty to forty five yard line. You know
what happened on the first play, Michael jumped off side. Yes,
that was a crucial five yards, jesseic. Cleveland needed to
eventually kick a fifty five yard field goal to win

(25:50):
the game. Hard count's going to be big for Dak
in this game because you can get Michael to come across.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
See.

Speaker 8 (25:57):
But you know, because people know each other so well,
you know, you got your body language has to change
a little bit because I'm pretty sure Michael has known
that Dak has tried to draw people off side before,
and he probably, if he's smart, he looked at his
body language as he did it. So whatever body language
Dak has coming out of the huddle, if he intends
to do that, he'd better be a really good actor.

Speaker 5 (26:20):
Well, as Jerry said, if nothing else, we know all
about Micah, like we're aware of what he does well
and what he doesn't do. We now we are aware
that he's ruined a lot of practices in training camp, right,
so guys at least know what he's capable of doing,
some of his moves or whatever. And I can't remember

(26:44):
if I mentioned it here. Bill and I were talking
about it yesterday. One of the things the Packers have
been doing is they've been doing pick place like the
guard on the defension, defensive tackle picks the picks the tackle. Yeah,
and then he's free to either go outside or inside.
And that's one thing I saw the Packers doing repeatedly

(27:08):
to try to get him free. He couldn't do it,
and I'm sure the Cowboys did.

Speaker 6 (27:15):
I want to play Devil's advocate here because I think
it's good that a player, when a player leaves, that
not that you forget about who he is, but you
don't talk up who he is. Michael Parsons is that dude,
and the fifty two sacks that he had in the
way that he has been disruptive his entire career. NFL

(27:36):
teams have been afraid of him. Offensive coordinators have game
plan for him because of how disruptive he is. You know,
the I guess the detour that this season has taken
it's been because we traded away one of the best
defensive players in the National Football League. And oh, by
the way, he returns and he's a little pissed off.

Speaker 5 (27:57):
So why is he pissed, Well.

Speaker 6 (27:59):
He's probably pissed because the contract negotiations didn't go his way.
He didn't win, and he won.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
He won.

Speaker 6 (28:05):
No, no, no, let me finish because he won. But
do you really believe that Micah wanted to go to
Green Bay?

Speaker 2 (28:12):
He shouldn't.

Speaker 6 (28:13):
But that's that was a part of whatever negotiation tactic
that he failed at. But that doesn't regardless of all
of that, it doesn't diminish the fact that he is him.
And when that's just that's just urban vernacular, or he
is a disruptive sob. And when it comes to a
game plan, when it comes down to obvious passing downs,

(28:34):
you better be we better, we better come back with
a picture of three guys standing there in front of
Michael because that's the way that he that's the that's
the way that he has taken over games. You don't
get a comparison, whether right, wrong or indifferent, to the
great Lawrence Taylor by being a scrub and so I mean,
maybe they don't.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
He doesn't get a tribute video.

Speaker 6 (28:57):
He's not one of the great greatest that I was
Cowboy players to ever play. There's a long line of
men that played this game that have done far more
than Michael Parsons.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Has, only because they were here longer. Thank you.

Speaker 6 (29:10):
But let's not make it. Let's not let's not fix
our faith.

Speaker 8 (29:14):
Would have stayed here, we were looking at a different stuff,
that's all.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (29:19):
And he could have stayed here.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yeah, right, But here's what I say.

Speaker 5 (29:22):
Here's what I say.

Speaker 8 (29:24):
When you start talking about being angry, you're going to
look at motivational reasons, right, and one of them would be,
as you said, some guys were talking trash about him
when he left. I remember you said that some guys
are talking. Yes, of course you're gonna that's bullet Come on,
that's what college bulletin boy material. Michael Jordan did it

(29:46):
his whole career. Almost any great player that does it
that their whole career. If they left somewhere and was
coming back, that he's gonna have He's gonna have some
type of motivational reason for that.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
That's just the way it's gonna be.

Speaker 5 (30:00):
You always want to come back, and even if you're
just playing against your friends, right, you want to.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Beat them, you will beat them.

Speaker 6 (30:06):
I think this is different though. It's the Dallas Cowboys.
He wore this star, he was a part of this organization.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
And with the hype around it, Yes, that's why it
is different. But it's hype around it.

Speaker 8 (30:17):
Said the commercial man, I don't know what they're going
to be doing leading up to this.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Uh on the pregame on the NBC.

Speaker 8 (30:24):
It's gonna be a half hour that's right, that's what
it's gonna be.

Speaker 5 (30:28):
So what do you think they They can't, they can't
let this slip lie.

Speaker 8 (30:34):
Right, and they know that this is Yeah, this is
all for getting eyes on the TV ratings, all about
eyes on the TVs.

Speaker 5 (30:43):
And that's they might as well when he lines up,
put one of those yellow little every time.

Speaker 8 (30:48):
Well I bet they will. I bet that not every time,
but they're gonna They're gonna be moments where here he is,
here he is, I look at him moving around. That's
gonna happen. Yeah, so we might as well give in.

Speaker 4 (30:59):
One of those little circles they put at the feet
of the player and it moves with them, goes with
the player.

Speaker 6 (31:05):
Yeah, oh yeah, they'll put it. They'll show him against Guidon.

Speaker 5 (31:09):
Thestraighter board, the little.

Speaker 6 (31:12):
Yeah, here's Micah on the right side going up against
the second year player out Oklahoma, Tyler.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
So, okay, that comes to the line of scrimmage, and
I mean, what's the first thing that the Cowboys are
doing offensively when they come to the line of.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Scrimmage and the ball off? Handing the ball off?

Speaker 5 (31:29):
Now they're going to point, you would point, I would run.

Speaker 4 (31:36):
One Andrean Cooper or kway Walker, whoever's they're inside. Like
seven is the micyle Okay, all right? So and one
is the mic now, So it's like instead of pointing
at seven, they're pointing at one.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
He says, Mica is over there, microphone.

Speaker 4 (31:54):
Don't you think when a mic linebacker and a Micah.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Mic over there?

Speaker 5 (31:58):
Don't you think when they had the scout team out there,
they didn't have some designation who number one was at all?

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Who did they have.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
Shown? No healthy man?

Speaker 5 (32:16):
Okay, but I guarantee you a lot.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
More, a lot better about this game if number zero
was playing for Dallas.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
You and everybody else. I think it's gonna be fun
to watch. I really do.

Speaker 11 (32:29):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (32:30):
Not getting to pick the clicks and all that. Yeah,
but I think we're gonna go at him. We're gonna
go at him hard. We're gonna go at him a lot.

Speaker 5 (32:37):
Well, and it's not up. They'll pick on steal too,
they'll pick on bass in the middle, they'll pick I.

Speaker 8 (32:43):
Want to see us run that ball, right, see us
first play, go right at him first play. I'm sorry,
I gotta i gotta go with Michael the first play
because just let them know, yeah, we're coming at.

Speaker 5 (32:57):
This would be if you had Booker out there the
first place the guard pulls to.

Speaker 10 (33:01):
If I was back, I come up and wink at
him like.

Speaker 8 (33:05):
You wink at him, said, because you know we're coming by, or.

Speaker 5 (33:12):
That or that game when Romanowski had a cheap shot
in the regular season on somebody I can't remember.

Speaker 6 (33:19):
Bill Romanot right, Well, yeah, when they when they played
him in one of the preseason games the next year,
the first plays basically was Larry.

Speaker 5 (33:32):
Allen pulling, go get Romano.

Speaker 6 (33:34):
Yeah, I don't worry about who you're supposed to block.
I'm just saying this. You know, run the ball, the ball,
Run the ball, and I don't care what the score
gets to be. Continue to run the ball.

Speaker 8 (33:47):
Everything that I saw was his weakness when he was
playing with us. I'm going to mimic those plays or
at least those techniques. Sometimes we got outside of him,
Oh he was. He let others get outside when he
was playing for us. Sometimes he wasn't able to stop
the run playing for us. And I'm going to see
if he learned his lesson.

Speaker 5 (34:07):
Shot and him we are. One of the last things
he said in the press conference, he said, but the
thing for us is to have to go run the football.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
That's it, man, that's from today.

Speaker 8 (34:18):
Yeah, and that's the team that we've kind of wanted
around here. I mean, I enjoyed the running back last year,
but Rico doubt Rico Oubtle. I enjoyed Rico last year,
I really did. But this guy here, Javonte, he's he's
he's a little bit stronger, a little bit.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
He seems to have a little bit more more impact.
Does like two people ready this year, Just.

Speaker 5 (34:43):
Make sure when you're ready to go out of bounds.

Speaker 8 (34:45):
Just take your butt out of bounds. Know your limitations.
You gotta know your limitations.

Speaker 4 (34:50):
Okay, coming back here on mixed shots, I want to
ask a question what adjustment the Cowboys need to make
on defense with personnel. Is there a personnel adjustment that
they need to make? And our picks to click who
wins on Sunday night when mix shots continues in a moment.

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Speaker 4 (37:44):
All right, final segment of the week here with your
mix shots.

Speaker 6 (37:50):
You'll tell us what you are staring at over their
billing about it, find a former score that he can
identify for his.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
His data.

Speaker 5 (38:08):
And by the way, before we get into that part
of that press conference, I guess Clayton Adams said something
I guess Thursday when they do the coordinators that Cavante
Turpin was the straw that stirs the drink, all right,
And somebody asked Schottenheimer about it, and he said, he's

(38:33):
the Steve Nash of our football team. He goes. As
a matter of fact, he said, as a matter of fact,
during training camp, Clayton gave Turpin a Steve Nash jersey
and somebody said, well, why is that and he said
he leads the team in fist bumps. What was the

(38:57):
other backslaps? And asked, okay, okay, And that's how we
said it. By the way and that he's a guy
that just gets everybody going. So Cavante Turpin. When I
picked them to be picked the clip that's the straw baby.

Speaker 6 (39:16):
Okay, all right, go ahead, Mike put it all together
for you.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
So we already know now, all right.

Speaker 5 (39:26):
But I can't keep picking them every week.

Speaker 4 (39:28):
Oh, yes you can, Yes, you can, all right on defense? Yes,
And an update. I can't remember where I said, whether
I said this before we got on the air or
when we were on the air, But Zach Tom, Yeah,
audit practice third straight day. Aaron Banks. Zach Tom their
right tackle, Aaron Banks their left guard, both of them

(39:49):
missing practice for a third straight day, two day. And
I talked earlier in the week about the replacements. Jordan Morgan,
who came in after the first play of the against
Cleveland to play right tackle, did not look good. He
then moved to left guard. When Banks went down on
the thirtieth play of the game, Anthony Belton, the rookie
out of North Carolina State, came in at right tackle. Well,

(40:11):
Belton has missed practiced now miss practice yesterday and they
said it looked worse, okay, and so they may be
looking at their they're looking at third choice. That would
be their fourth choice at right tackle if if he
can't go.

Speaker 5 (40:28):
So from what I read, they're looking at Jordan Morgan
at left guard, Darien Canard Canard at right tackle, and
Sean Ryan at right guard.

Speaker 4 (40:38):
And Sean Ryan's been playing right yeah, right, yeah.

Speaker 6 (40:41):
So and so Bill, if I'm hearing this right, you're
you're asking if there's an adjustment that can be made
on defense?

Speaker 4 (40:47):
Defense? Yes, so what what adjustment would you make defense
to correct things?

Speaker 6 (40:53):
So I'm gonna I just want to say this that
you know, I feel like you were coached by one
of the greatest defensive mind and ever, Bill Belichick. And
one of Bill's things has always been being able to
be multiple in coverage and alignment. You know, four three
to three four. If you have a problem with the
Bill's gonna figure out a way to play it so
you can get beat by it. When I listened to

(41:15):
the coach Eber Flush yesterday and he was saying that
he was simplifying a process and breaking it all the
way down to just one coverage one so every one word,
one word, so that everybody would be on the same page.
That bothered me. Why is that because you can't be
that simple.

Speaker 5 (41:35):
He didn't say he was simplifying the defense. He said
that he was simplifying the call.

Speaker 6 (41:40):
Okay, so, okay, Ken one word, So I'm one of
the greatest DB's to ever play the game. Okay, did
you ever play in a defense that was led by
one word or did you have multiple words that meant
many different things.

Speaker 8 (41:57):
What we did was we took a simple defense covered
too and did variations of that depending on who we
played against.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
And we already talked about that before the game.

Speaker 8 (42:08):
We didn't necessarily have many changes or word talk, you know,
talks or whatever.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Linebackers took care of that.

Speaker 8 (42:15):
I called the plays in the Super Bowl against Buffalo,
and we just kept it simple.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
We did.

Speaker 8 (42:20):
We kept it simple against the hell of a team.
But what we did was we concentrated on one aspect
of the game because we knew we couldn't stop both
aspects of the game. Meaning either they're going to beat
us with the run or beat us with the pass.
We chose for them to beat us with the run.
That's the way we handled great offenses through the great

(42:41):
Bill Belichick. We kept it as simple as possible and
let our talent work. But at the same time, he
knew that we knew that our emphasis was going to
be on stopping the big plays, which to me fits
perfectly for who we're playing in this game and count
the way we've been playing in our secondary.

Speaker 5 (43:03):
So do they have to be cognizant of Love running
with the ball or does he not run as much
as they were worried about other quarterbacks running the foot.

Speaker 6 (43:13):
They have to be cognizant of Love running the ball. Yeah,
they do, because you've seen Caleb Williams get out and
it may not be that he's a Jalen Hurts type
of a quarterback. I'm just saying, if it's third and twelve,
you know, you're just sitting back in coverage and you
leave this gaping hole like you did for Russell Wilson
the same way as you.

Speaker 8 (43:31):
Like what happened last night was Sam Donald, same thing.
So well, that's always you're always going to be cognizant
of that. I mean, you can't call a defense for that.
You can put a spy on somebody. I don't know
if Love is spy worthy.

Speaker 5 (43:44):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (43:45):
Now he wants to throw the ball right they you know,
of course, Yeah, they won't to throw the.

Speaker 5 (43:49):
Ball, so I got to get after him. Yeah, and
maybe they need to play some guys more at defensive end,
and maybe they need to have more active linebackers too.

Speaker 6 (44:00):
And Mickey, who are those guys that you're talking about?
The click? Okay, So so going back to what you're
saying in the simple coverage that you called in the
Super Bowl, Please, no, you don't have to remind everybody
who your your front line.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
Your front five was.

Speaker 8 (44:18):
Big John Washington, Leonard Marshall, Big Eric Howard call Banks
flanked him. Lt was on the other side of all
people at sometimes. Steve Diasse was our middle linebacker along
with Papa Johnson.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Man didn't trust Steve.

Speaker 5 (44:34):
I can't imagine why.

Speaker 8 (44:35):
He didn't trust him in the Super Bowl now that
he had ball for us during the season, But during
the Super Bowl he said, we're going with Gary Rigs.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
That was one of the smarter line.

Speaker 6 (44:45):
Back You know how attorneys when they're and when they're
in courting, they rest their case, they put theirs.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
Because that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (44:54):
As far as adjustments that can be made, you can
save your secondary by being able to get pressure. We
haven't been but to present that if you try and
change things up. We talked about Donovan Wilson and Malie
Hooker and possibly one year Thomas and Marquise Bell getting
an opportunity to play as well. In that simple scheme
that they're playing. Maybe it's not the Maybe it's not
the scheme. Maybe it's the players. And I want them

(45:15):
to look at that.

Speaker 5 (45:17):
Can't be simple because they ain't got it yet.

Speaker 8 (45:19):
We played simple with great players. We played simple with
great players, yes, sir, but you can do that with
great players.

Speaker 6 (45:24):
Yes.

Speaker 8 (45:25):
To me, I think we need more pressure, and I
think we need to blitz more. Our guy, you gotta
put your big boy pants on his cornerbacks. You gotta
cover your man. I'm sorry, I don't care who it is.
I put you out here to play defensive back. Sometimes
you're gonna have to actually play man to man and
make a play. I'm gonna go with as much pressure

(45:47):
as unpredictable pressure, try and disguise as much as I can,
and give these put some pressure on them for once.
Put some pressure on love to make some plays. And
let's give let's put a little fear into him, into him,
into his eyes, into his heart, that's what I'm looking for.
I don't care about how good a wide receiver might be. Man,
you still gotta make your play. That's a defensive back.

(46:09):
You gotta play. Man, you gotta make a play.

Speaker 6 (46:13):
I like that. Y'all ready to go? They don't get
you fired up?

Speaker 4 (46:16):
I'm fired up. And then okay, and it plays right
into the fact that the Packers are missing two of
their offensive linemen and the guys that replaced them did
not look good last week.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
There you go and click. I'm ready. I'm ready. I
picked the.

Speaker 4 (46:29):
Clip's going around.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
We're going out. Okay, Well I was gonna go turfing.

Speaker 5 (46:34):
It's twelve forty six.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Okay, Oh you take I was good. I'm not taking
I was gonna take him.

Speaker 5 (46:39):
I'm not taking.

Speaker 8 (46:40):
And then I say, you know, fight, I need to start.
I need to stay defensively, defensive minded. Twenty four to
twenty cowboys and whoa cowboys. I'm looking for Clark to
have a damn Wait a minute, I got it, looking
for wait a minute, looking for.

Speaker 5 (46:57):
What you both take them?

Speaker 2 (47:00):
You can both take him. I want him. I want him.

Speaker 8 (47:03):
I said, ask you if we walked in here, this
is what I want. This is going to get some
how did you get that score?

Speaker 2 (47:12):
I get that? Twenty four twenty? That's something else?

Speaker 5 (47:16):
Is he going to be overly motivated because he's playing
against his former team?

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Right? Bill?

Speaker 4 (47:21):
You gotta watch out for those hard counts because you
go over the lines. All right now, heck me you're next?

Speaker 6 (47:28):
Come on, okay, well, my guy, my guy, I got that.
The player that I'm taking is also Kenny Clark, and
the and the reason being is because he is also
he's the he's the guy that's been lost in his
whole storytelling thing of a guy going up against his
old team. But it's because we need it. We need

(47:49):
it from our front. We have to present some pressure.
And he is the one guy that comes in with
a resume for getting that kind of penetration score and pressure.
And my score is going to be so seventeen thirteen
ugly the first quarter or what?

Speaker 9 (48:11):
No?

Speaker 2 (48:12):
The game?

Speaker 6 (48:13):
No, this is the game. Seventeen to thirteen Cowboys. Man,
that'd be nice.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
And that was Oh I love that.

Speaker 6 (48:20):
Seventeen thirteen. I'm taking the Cowboys and we.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Can't screw up on defense every week? Oh we got.

Speaker 4 (48:27):
Never thought that, Never thought that. I heard the tenor
all week long.

Speaker 5 (48:35):
My pick to click will be Donovan is a rockup,
going to get my snaps and he's coming off the edge.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
Watch out, by the way, his former head coach in
college at Boston College is the defensive coordinator for the Packers.

Speaker 5 (48:52):
Oh really had so they'll know all about him.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
Huh, he didn't know that before.

Speaker 5 (48:59):
Watch out for Asiaku on the fan this morning. I
picked the Packers twenty seven to twenty three. Okay, but
I seen a sign from heaven the foot door of
the Star.

Speaker 4 (49:17):
Roger came in.

Speaker 5 (49:20):
The hands he put, he put hands on these Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
And I'm going to reverse it, all right.

Speaker 5 (49:27):
All right, changing my mind because of that Cowboys twenty seven,
Packers twenty three.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Boy baby got you wow three.

Speaker 8 (49:38):
Roger came into the building expecting to inspire people.

Speaker 4 (49:42):
You think there was timely it happened, Go talk, it happened.
That was not that was not Disunfortunately, all those guys
that are playing in the game have never heard of.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Right. You recognized right other.

Speaker 5 (50:02):
Than other than Dak Javante Williams.

Speaker 4 (50:07):
I'm trying to think.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Other players, oh yeah, and knows the history would know.

Speaker 4 (50:11):
Roger Staubach is age.

Speaker 5 (50:14):
Yeah, their age, young guy, let's do it.

Speaker 4 (50:17):
Williams. Because he was a valedictorian.

Speaker 5 (50:21):
His favorite subject was history.

Speaker 4 (50:23):
Remember oh okay?

Speaker 2 (50:24):
And he knew that what I thought? You said?

Speaker 6 (50:27):
That's right?

Speaker 4 (50:28):
Okay, this is what I've been pondering. The Packers have
won the last five meetings.

Speaker 5 (50:36):
Okay, haven't They won nine of last ten.

Speaker 4 (50:38):
Won in nine of last ten. And that's the trend
I'm looking at. Packers won five in a row from
O nine through fifteen. Cowboys won in twenty sixteen, Dak's
rookie year, and the Packers have won five in a
row since then. What do they say in this league?
The more you win a losing Packers, you were close

(50:59):
to losing Sunday Night the Cowboys and it's we're going
back to twenty sixteen, thirty to sixteen the Cowboys walk
away winners and Dak Prescott.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
Can I pick that? Yes you can.

Speaker 4 (51:12):
Jack Prescott is my pick to click, just like his
rookie season at Green Bay.

Speaker 5 (51:17):
We are starting to make a joke out of these pics.

Speaker 8 (51:22):
We come back starting on Monday, starting to it's been
a joke.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
Come on, all right?

Speaker 4 (51:27):
So that does it for mix Shines and we'll be
back to wrap up a Cowboys victory on victory Monday
high noon on Monday right ever.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Since right, I'll be here, all right, go Cowboy, Cowboy Nation.
I hope your team wins.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and
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