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December 15, 2025 46 mins
The Cowboys loss to Minnesota has taken the potential glitter off the 2025 season, the Cowboys playoff chances a long shot, the Cowboys just not good enough against the Vikings. Had major problems dealing with the Vikings blitzes, and defensively did little to disrupt Vikings QB J.J McCarthy, playing his most efficient game as a pro.

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
This is Mick Shot, streaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com
and the official Dallas Cowboys apt now. Here are Bill Jones,
Heckma Harrison, Everson Walls, and Mickey Spagnola.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
It is the morning after and we are inside the
SWBC podcast studio here at the Beautiful Star in Frisco,
Bill Jones, Everson Walls, and Mickey Spagnola. After a Sunday
night loss to the Minnesota Vikings. Three games left in
this season. I've billed it as the Twelve Days of

(00:55):
Christmas for this team. Yesterday it was day number one
of the twelve day Days of Christmas. Three games in
twelve days leading up to Christmas Day, and we'll all
have a merry Christmas. And the Grinch stole Christmas.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
On Sunday night, there was not a partridge in the
but there was a no there was a purple partridge
in the pear tree.

Speaker 5 (01:19):
What they said there was coal instead of candy.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
That tree exactly right cold.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
So whatever analogy you want to make.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
We're here to pick up the pieces. And there's a
we could start any number of places. But even around
the league, it wasn't just the Cowboys. There are other
organizations that was not It's not a it's a very
blue Monday.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
Many so many, Green Bay and Cinnati. Well it's been,
it's been over but now it's mathematically.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Yeah, and it's not mathematically over here yet.

Speaker 5 (01:54):
I hate that. I hate that, man, because now we're
still holding up.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
You'd rather just go ahead and bed, Let's just.

Speaker 5 (02:01):
Be done with it, man, Let's just see what we
got going on for next year. I still want to
win every game. I want to spoil everybody's party, whoever
thinks they're going to come in here and try to
go through the Cowboys on the way to the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
And I want to find out who wants to be
here next year.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
There you go, there you go, So do they That's
a good one right there.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Yeah, that's what I was thinking driving in.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
Now a lot of young guys may get opportunity.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Now we're going to find out who wants to be
here next year.

Speaker 5 (02:28):
And you know, there's still the same thing about ninety four,
you know, having him having that flag and things of
that nature. That was I think that's still something that
they should live on for quite some time. I mean,
it is part of their their fabric right now, and
I think it should bend. I think it should remain

(02:49):
that because it really has brought them together as people,
which is very unique nowadays in these professional sports organizations.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
All right, well, let's talk about what happened last night?
Makey do you where do you start?

Speaker 5 (03:05):
Look at the look on mickeys?

Speaker 4 (03:07):
Well, uh, it's it's a deep subject.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
How long did Shutenheimer talk after the game last night?
It seemed to go for a good while. You don't know,
we don't have to I mean specific.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
I want to say I thought I saw three minutes. Yeah,
because I was recording it.

Speaker 5 (03:30):
Why is that unusual?

Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yeah, especially after a loss.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
You know, he's out of there.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
But he was, you know, and he's always done that.
It takes every question and there's a maturity about him and.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
A little contemplation. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
Yeah, And unfortunately I forgot to turn my recorder off.

Speaker 6 (03:50):
It's still thanks for that, Vicky.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Was I want to say it was?

Speaker 4 (04:03):
I want to say it was like thirty minutes.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
I mean, he's very unusual prescontin even after a win.
That well, I just know I was getting ready for
my show. We were on late last night and I
was listening to Schottenheimer doing other things, getting ready for
the show, and then I'd come, i'd leave, and i'd
come back and he's still talking.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
So I was wondering why. When I was in the
press box writing and I looked at my clock and
it was like one thirty, and I said, why is
it so late? But the game ended at ten thirty.
He must have gone eleven fifteen or something time he
got in there. But you know, I thought, I thought
he explained things very well, awfully well, and took responsibility.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
The two things.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
That stuck out to me was early he said we
just didn't play very well. Uh, And to me, that
interpreted it as they just weren't good enough. And then
the second thing, he said, Ryan Flores did a better
job than I did.

Speaker 5 (05:04):
And that's what I figured he would point that that
was the game. I knew he would be mad enough
to point that. I mean, it was.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
That was one of the first things he bought it out.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
Yeah, and my column's not up yet, but I basically
said they blitzed the Cowboys into submission, not only in
the game but the season.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yeah, and Dak was the same way, talking about their
zero coverage and yeah, it was what we talked about
coming in, and we didn't have answers for it. Well
we I forgot it would beat it.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
I got some next gen stats for you. Okay, So
he he ended up being like twenty what was it,
twenty three of thirty eight for two hundred and ninety
four yards.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Somehow someway a lot.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
Of some of that game on that last drive right after.

Speaker 5 (05:51):
It was he was twenty not much of it.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
They pressured them, I mean pressured. Yeah, they pressured them
twenty one times. So it had been forty dropbacks, and
he counts the two sacks fifty one point two percent.
They blitzed forty three forty six point three percent, so
that's right at nineteen and yet he threw for that

(06:16):
many yards.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
And I think on the season, Floris's defense blitzes forty
eight percent. Yeah, so he's right at They were prepared
and I had they were going to do. They just
didn't have the answers.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
I found out Friday in the locker room, guys were
talking and got pointed out that when he was the
coach at Miami, he blitzed Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
When they were playing Baltimore.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
Twenty eight times, just kept going and and the Cowboys
never did anything to discourage him from continuing the blitzes.

Speaker 5 (06:47):
I thought they did.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
A couple of times the Running Game, The Running Running Game,
they hit some runs, but they needed to keep doing it.
And then you're down to what one running back and
you lose two of them. Gavante Williams did come back,
they lost lip Key.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Came back with a vengeance explosive run after.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
And then he happened halftime worked for him, and then
suffer He's out.

Speaker 5 (07:21):
Yeah because he was running well no.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
Yeah, and and because they had keep they were bringing
him in on third down to help with blitz pick.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
And then they said, well, let's.

Speaker 5 (07:32):
Just they said, right in between the center.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, they've done that several times.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
They've done it.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
Yes, almost like he was a tight end the way
he lined up.

Speaker 5 (07:42):
But the problem wasn't in the middle. The problem was
the guy's coming from the outside.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
Right, and they didn't chip enough or they didn't use
the tight ends enough, but they couldn't discourage him from continue.
And you know, when I think of a blitz, it's like, well,
the safety came right. Well, they were sending the safety
the linebacker. So now that's six and now two linebackers and.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
That's safety is running back.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
Yeah right, And at one time they had eight guys
on the line of scrimmage oh many times, and they
all came yeah, now three of them will drop yeah,
and you don't know which three are going to drop it, right,
And so that's but that was him. That's that's what
Dak explained to me on Friday. It's like you think
you know, and then it's the guys they drop off

(08:32):
and confuses what you got to do.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
And they were talking about but we got rules to
do this and do that. Well, they just overwhelmed it.

Speaker 5 (08:41):
And that wasn't just the brush, it was the coverage. Yeah,
because you know Dak will throw it in there. I mean,
he's gonna give you a chance. But he didn't even
want to give him a chance. This time. It was
that tight on the window. And you usually see Dak,
I'm gonna try you, right, I don't care who you are.
I don't care if it's Lord nor, I don't care
if it's it's CD. I'm gonna try you. And he

(09:03):
he would. He was like Mahomes was against us. He
kept wanting to pull the trigger and he wouldn't. And
that there's two small quarterbacks that decided not to do something.
So you're not open as far as I'm concerned. Well,
and and here's here's my thing about how shy you
could have attacked that. And you know, we got all
kinds of ways to do it. But when you have

(09:24):
zero coverage back there or even just one high, you
gotta run rub routes. They do it to us all
the time. You you you run the receivers, you run
the dbs into each other. You make them try and
work their way around it in the midst of making
a play or trying to make a play. And I
didn't think we went deep enough. I know that the

(09:46):
blitzeres are coming, but then I'm gonna throw it up
to you. You know, you need to win at the
line of scrimmage, and I'm going to throw it up
to you. And we didn't do any of that.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
They didn't attack the middle of the field, not at all.
But the tight ends were probably trying to block. He
got hit eleven times and they had five passes defense.
Sounds like last week, so to me, when you have
that many passes defense, then your guys aren't that open, right,
you know what, you're trying to fit one.

Speaker 5 (10:16):
That's right, you're trying to fit it in and he
will try it.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
And the way they played their defense, they were making
sure that they were funneling guys and.

Speaker 5 (10:25):
Well, we kept the routes short. And see that's the
thing we were doing two years ago when we lost
to Green Bay. After a while, you have to say,
you know what, man on man, and that we have
the two guys to do that. We have three I
like flowing over against anybody. Yeah, so let's send them
towards the middle of the field. Let's send them, let's
test the outside. And we were just so conservative in

(10:47):
that regards and I don't know where that came from,
because we haven't been conservative throughout our entire stretch of
these needed games. And that just disappointed me so much.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
And they weren't conservatives. To start the game on the
first possession, right, you have a fake field goal right
like that, and then I just love for some reason,
I thought I thought I thought he had bounced it
to him like a basket.

Speaker 5 (11:16):
That's what it was, like a basketball play, you know,
you come across the screen screen, you're man, there you go, buddy,
flip it over.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
That was sweet, you know.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
And even at that, they go for it at fourth
and one, they go for it at the goal line
and it's like, okay, I don't want field goals, right,
I want touchdowns.

Speaker 5 (11:32):
And eventually they field goals.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
Actually, if you count the fake, they were in seven
field goals situations. They made four of six, and I
decided that, you know, I always say the more field
goals you kick, the closer your id to losing. Now
I got to make an addendum, the more you miss,
the closer your.

Speaker 5 (11:52):
No, no, the more your kick your kicks. His leg
gets tired, that's.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
What that's only, he gets tired from running the football.

Speaker 5 (12:02):
That did it?

Speaker 7 (12:03):
Our covering to be a multitask, right, I had to
make a tackle on the kickoff, which, by the way, Uh,
the coverage improved, didn't it did?

Speaker 5 (12:15):
Everything about special.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
Team they made they made a priority because I saw,
uh the itinerary we get.

Speaker 5 (12:23):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
There was three special teams meetings between Saturday and Sunday
and they were highlighted like yeah, better be there, right,
And the coverage I think I don't know if they
got past the.

Speaker 5 (12:38):
Third years, well, no, I made they made the jack off.
They made adjustments.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
They did a good job, and I saw where.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
Quite a bit some of the starters were actually playing
on special teams. Yeah, so that improved. Now the kicks
he missed fifty one fifty nine, he.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Pushed them both to the right. I don't know why.
On the first one.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
When I was writing it down, he's going to attempt
and I'm going, oh, he's gonna miss.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
I just said he's gonna miss.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
And I watch him warm I don't I don't know why.
I watch him warm up because he hits everything.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, he hits.

Speaker 5 (13:17):
Everything, the same thing yesterday.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
So yesterday when that fake took place, I just assume, Okay,
I'm writing down, made right, and then they faked it
yeah yesterday. Yeah, and he warmed up great yesterday. But
you know, at some point, you're human.

Speaker 5 (13:34):
And that's that's the thing about this importance of this stretch.
We talk about referees. They're gonna let you down. Something's
gonna let you down.

Speaker 8 (13:45):
You know, like the whole we need he need everything
to be almost perfect. Yeah, and it's hard for perfection
to sneak in to be to be perfect one hundred percent,
but to be lawless, you're only going to be flawless
on eighty percent of your place.

Speaker 5 (14:04):
I mean, that's just the way it goes, you know.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
And Schottenheimer emphasized a couple of times that they just
weren't good enough on third down. Well, they converted a
season low two of twelve, two of sixteen percent. But
there was a reason why, because those third downs were long.
They weren't doing enough persistently on first and second because
they only converted two of nine, right and and that guy.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
But they converted on fourth down.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
Yes, and Cowboys had fourth down conversion, and they were
willing to go down the field in one on one situations.
They tested our corners.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
If I told you you were going to hold big
fourth and three downfield to beat Rebel.

Speaker 5 (14:48):
Then I thought the costs some one heard.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Carson heard, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
If I had told you Justin and Jefferson, all I
can remember is watching LSU play and it's touched Jefferson,
that's a light two catches for twenty two yards. You'd
take it. You're going, oh, we're gonna win, right, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (15:08):
But you didn't know something to give up a touchdown
to some.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
Other Naylor guys going to step up and didn't even.

Speaker 5 (15:13):
Know he was also l s U right, I believe.

Speaker 9 (15:16):
So.

Speaker 5 (15:18):
They're known for their wide receivers.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
But they just gave up too many explosive plays.

Speaker 5 (15:24):
There's a there's a point to where either it's going
to click or not, and I was did not because
it wasn't just one thing. It was a plefel of
things that we could have looked at, several that we
talked about, but also just the penalties and crucial situations
that could have helped us. And when I say crucial situations,

(15:46):
I don't know how many penalties we had, not many,
but they were bad. Uh the kickoff return.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
You're talking about the CJ. Goodwin, the whole, the whole,
by the way, before he gets too far away, Naylor
went to Michigan State, but it was and on that
kickoff return here were you there when Cavante was talking about, no,
I wasn't kicking during the week, Oh yeah, up to
the game, talking about, well we need to start holding like.

Speaker 10 (16:13):
The right team, right all right?

Speaker 4 (16:14):
Right, Well you know what good one told me, the
same thing. He goes they got away with so many
holds and he was talking to Detroit or Detroit. Yeah,
and then they get called for holding.

Speaker 5 (16:28):
He was what you cant depend on referees.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
They will let you that forty or thirty five yard
line wherever he was.

Speaker 5 (16:35):
Yeah, we had a couple, We had a couple of
big plays.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Off seven seven penalties.

Speaker 5 (16:40):
But they were they were just at such inopportunity times, right,
and we don't have we don't have room for era.
We didn't have it, not only just in the season itself,
but you can break it down to almost every play.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
We just don't need it on the goal line.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
When they got called for illegal touching or whatever, they
had stopped him right. They showed the replay and they
called it on Murray and.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
I watched it.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
It was he didn't touch anybody.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
They called.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
I think the back of the TV. They showed a
replay and it looked like it was.

Speaker 5 (17:14):
Yeah. But but once again, was he still in the
pocket because he came out of that pocket fast.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
Right, and they while the quarterback was in the pocket right.

Speaker 5 (17:26):
Yeah, it must have looked at it, but but it
didn't happen that fast. He didn't hold him until he
went to the back of the end zone right right
by that time, he's already scrambled out, the quarterback had
already scrambled out of the pocket, and.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
They were so close five yards that had that gets
you halfway into the end zone right from where they were.
But again, but again everything adds up as you as
you said. Uh, and and the fact that they went
three for three on fourth down, Yeah, that really that
really hurt.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
All right, just getting starts did here. We've talked a
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six of seven drives and expect to win a football game.
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All right, let's talk defense now, and I'm telling you
third possession on in this game now, okay, the first possession,
second play of the game. Dodovan Wilson blitzes ball, gets
batted up in the year, including by the quarterback and

(21:48):
Quinn Williams as his first career interception, and the Cowboys
are in position the fake a field goal and score
a touchdown and take the early lead in the game.

Speaker 4 (21:57):
Do you think they set a record for as the
most plays from the thirty five yard line in had
eleven plates? Really was thirty five in.

Speaker 5 (22:09):
Well, here's what I know. They listened to mix shots
because we told them they need to start off.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
Faster, right they did.

Speaker 5 (22:18):
They game I strong and you know, no, no three
point is no. No. We want to we want to
please mix shots.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
That's right.

Speaker 5 (22:25):
Give us the old no look pass and seven nothing
that's right with the ball.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
All right, And then the Vikings get the ball back
and it's a punt. Okay, Now there was a good punt.
It was a punt that was sixty four yards.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
Well you got it.

Speaker 10 (22:43):
No, that's what I mean.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
It turned out to be a good punt in that
it went good.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
You think it was in his head? Oh no, I
can't fair catch it.

Speaker 10 (22:53):
You know what it was. It was such a bad punt.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Right, he couldn't have to go there.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
It was such a bad punt that there was a
Vikings player between Cavante and the ball where he could
not come up and catch the ball.

Speaker 5 (23:08):
Well it was the Cowboy player as well, yeah, right there, right,
And that's a good strategy because it does give them
a god pause. Well, like if I go over here,
he might hit me, you know, I might hit them.
I might miss the ball next thing, you know, they
get that's right.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
But from a Vikings perspective, the good thing on the
punt for them was that it rolled farther than it
traveled in the air, and the Cowboys were then pinned
down back at their own three yard line to start
that drive which flipped the field. And then starting with
the Vikings third possession, they go two plays fifty four

(23:47):
yards or whatever it was for a touchdown and their
next seven possessions. The Vikings score on six of those
seven possessions, four touchdowns and two field goals.

Speaker 5 (23:59):
And we're not talking going against his own well, just man,
the man. They beat us in every defense we tried
to play, and I don't know how that is. Like
I said, the only success we had was when they
threw to Jefferson. That's the only time we felt good
about any past He's.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Either going to overthrow him or Jefferson on one of
them just dropped it. Uh huh, was like he was
so surprised that it was our target. Actually pretty fast,
I think, so, I don't care.

Speaker 10 (24:27):
He's still just he got off of the fast too.

Speaker 5 (24:29):
I mean he got up and ran over to the
to the huddling. I guess he apologized.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
Sorry what I said, all those overthrows.

Speaker 5 (24:39):
Right, but now you got to get a stop. You
have to get a stop. This defense is so confusing
to me because we have the talent, but the scheme
itself has to be the problem, because you can't tell
me that this group of players that we have on

(25:01):
that front. I just take the front four. I think
if you got a front four with a good scheme,
even that front four, no matter who the linebackers are
behind you, they should make more plays in the making.
We should still get more pressure than we're getting, which
makes no sense to me. When we have these studs

(25:21):
on our defensive line, we should not be There's no
way that Jared Golf should be sitting back in the
pocket having a good time. There's no way that JJ
should be doing the same thing. Not the entire game.
I just didn't. They were maybe pressured. What do you
think they had?

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Maybe he got your next gen stage made pressures.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
Oh, I'm sorry, he is he I was looking something up?

Speaker 3 (25:52):
Is it about what we're talking about?

Speaker 4 (25:56):
He had said they got off to such a good start, right,
and I was sitting there going, well, we forget in
the third quarter they were up twenty seventeen, right.

Speaker 10 (26:09):
Yeah, and they got up twenty three seventeen too.

Speaker 5 (26:11):
Well.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
The problem was they had a third and eight and
they got a false start. So now it's third and
thirteen and they ended up fourth and three at the
eighteen yard line and I'm sitting there, do not kick
a field?

Speaker 5 (26:29):
Go for it? Did I want to go for it then? Too?

Speaker 4 (26:31):
And he was like and he answered it, yeah, shotten him.
He said, we needed we needed points. But I'm sitting
there going, okay, you're up twenty three seventeen. Touchdown you're behind,
and that's exactly what happened. And they took a deliberate
delay a game and it was like, no, just go
for it. You're at the eighteen. At least they got

(26:53):
to drive all that way.

Speaker 5 (26:55):
If you don't get it, what en see? Sorry, no, no, no,
that changed they that's the difference between last night and
how he coached doing this stretch.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
Or the beginning of the question. And then he didn't.

Speaker 5 (27:11):
Even the beginning of the game. There you go, even
the beginning of the game. Now you can't. This is
not the time to step back now, you know, this
is the time that we gotta have, you know, what
the young people talk about.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
And then and in Nate Thomas defense, there's no defense,
but the blitz was coming and he.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Just overreacted unfortunately, you know.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
And then it's twenty three, twenty four to twenty.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
Three, and well, but okay, to your point on kicking
the field goal on fourth and three at the eighteen,
Schottenheimer kicks the field goal. Okay, all right, it's twenty
three to seventeen. Vikings next drive is when they had
the fourth and three at the Dallas thirty seven yard
line and they go for it. And that was a

(27:56):
twenty three yard past to Naylor and they wound up
getting a touchdown on that had to take the lead
twenty four to twenty three.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
See, and then that next possession, they.

Speaker 5 (28:05):
Don't have the weapon.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
They don't have the weapon place kicker that the Cowboys have,
so they don't try the fifty five yard if you
will go and go for it.

Speaker 5 (28:13):
Yeah, but once again aggression paid off.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
See and he had and I wrote down all day
in the pocket on that on that plate twenty three
And then there was and then the one I mentioned
it was first in goal at the four and uh,
they batted the ball incomplete and that's when they called
a legal contact on Murray.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Wasn't on Murray.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
So it goes from second to first and goal at
the one and two plays later touchdown.

Speaker 5 (28:43):
He was.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
He was the first time the guy ran the ball
the whole season, the full.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
Back, the first time that was an unscouted look and
he got a touched out one yard. Okay, Mickey, can
you talk about the first touchdown by JJ McCarthy on
the fourth down on the goal line.

Speaker 10 (29:06):
Oh, talked about it off the air rant on the air.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
I said, if there's any indignity. Losing is allowing him
to run that play fake and he trots into the
end laughing. Okay, it's real funny.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Huh yeah, that was a killer.

Speaker 4 (29:25):
They blitched and made the tackle on the guy that
didn't get the ball.

Speaker 5 (29:30):
I know, I mean, don't you be intelligent?

Speaker 3 (29:34):
Yeah, that's exactly.

Speaker 10 (29:36):
What I was thinking.

Speaker 5 (29:37):
How many people, No, it's not even that. When you're
if I'm a corner lining up, I'm like, I'm not
going for that.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Right, It's just that, and it's and it's.

Speaker 5 (29:47):
Okay in the heads be smart exactly, but this is
that's college reaction. That's a high school reaction. And oh man,
we got too many veterans on this team for something
like that to happen. Hey, it was so bad. Peyton
Manning would be envious of. That's how bad that was.

(30:08):
Because Peyton's was bad. I mean, he ran slower than
Peyton did. It just made no sense.

Speaker 4 (30:15):
Well, maybe that's what happens when you failed to get
any pressure on the opposing quarterback. They never sacked them once.
They hurried them maybe four times, maybe five times at
the most.

Speaker 5 (30:28):
When you're in this kind of situations fast and it's
so busy, looking out for everything. You don't see anything right,
and because you know you once again, the margin for
area is so slim. And so when you're trying to
talk about what watch this, watch that, watch this some
inexperienced guy, I guess we did have with some inexperienced
dbs out there that you know, they're getting caught up

(30:49):
in the moment. That's not what veterans do, you know.
And even if I was a coach, I would have
sent someone. I don't know. I'm pretty sure everyone on
the sidelines is watch the bootleg. Wat's the fake. You
don't just this is not this is not the so
though you know this is not the so though we

(31:12):
you know, we play smart, we play with poise, and
that as you get desperate, it's harder and harder to
do that.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
We don't have a show tomorrow. We won't convene again
until Wednesday, and so I want to get Everson's thoughts
on the veteran that did not play in this game
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going on with Trayvon. We come back here on mix
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Speaker 3 (34:23):
Welcome back to the second day of the Twelve Days
of Christmas for your Cowboys team got the Chargers on
Sunday at the Washington Commanders on Christmas Day at noon,
and let's talk some more about what happened on Sunday night,
the thirty four to twenty six loss to the Vikings,

(34:44):
which was the now eighth straight game that Traymond Diggs
has missed, and the news came down on Saturday that
he would not be activated from injured reserve. Despite the
factor in the week, it sounded like that he was
trending to wards playing. We even talked about it here
on the show. I think that we should do possibility

(35:05):
or good possibility he'd be playing. And so, what do
you think is going on here?

Speaker 5 (35:09):
Well, right now, I'm a little confused because at one
point we thought we knew exactly what was going on
with Trayvon Diggs in regards to his non participation and
his attitude. It seemed to be in the locker room
and on the field itself. Uh, And then we see

(35:30):
some bright optimism when it came down to his participation.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
From him from him, yes.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Yeah, with him talking, not from.

Speaker 5 (35:43):
Now. They've been giving him the stiff arm. He'd been
getting the heisman from the organization themselves.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
So and it was always about consistency. It was across
the board, whoever talked about it, talking about needing to
be more consistent.

Speaker 5 (36:00):
Well, when you look at this team and you look
at the makeup of the secondary.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
We really could use him if indeed we.

Speaker 5 (36:09):
Really he's ready to need him, if he's ready to play, right.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
Gary, he talks about health with him.

Speaker 4 (36:17):
Yeah, that I watched when they do their individual drills, when.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
He seemed to be moving just fine, something else is up.

Speaker 5 (36:26):
Well, it's like you said, he's gonna be He's in
a whole other category in regard to the relationship in
this organization. You know, they don't know. They seem to
know what he's going to do come next year, even
the end of the end of this season. As far
as I'm concerned and for the fans are concerned, I

(36:46):
think they've given up on him.

Speaker 4 (36:49):
Well, first of all, the only guy that didn't play
in the game was Joe Milton, So forty eight guys,
however many it was, they all played. Now to get
him on the fifty three, you've got to cut somebody, now.
I can't imagine they couldn't find somebody to say, all right,

(37:11):
last minute, we're going to let you go and then
we'll put you on the practice squad. Although I don't
know that you wanted to give up on any of
the guys that were inactive Tobert blue guiton for injury reasons,
Toya and Winfrey. But you got to cut somebody to
put them on.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Either cut them or there's an injury, you can put
them on.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Yeah, And I think maybe that.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
Puts him out for the season at this point they
were hoping for.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
And it didn't occur. I refuse, I refuse.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
To believe a lot of Sometimes sometimes it just kind
of takes somebody.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
Yeah or something, yeah, hamstring.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
I refuse to believe that they were just trying to
save fifty eight thousand dollars, because that's which is it's
all the game.

Speaker 5 (38:01):
Are they trying to save him for whoever he's going
to well in? Do they want not to damage the
goods or hurt that knee?

Speaker 4 (38:12):
Yeah, depending on what they wanted.

Speaker 5 (38:15):
So that that that means that their minds pretty much
would be made up. And if you use that scenario,
their mind is made up that Okay, we're just going
to hold him over here, like like China, we don't
want to we don't want to break the China.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
And like Cardinals with Kyler Murray, there you go, same thing.

Speaker 4 (38:31):
And I'm sure there's still upset with the home accident
that put him in concussion produce right, right, So I
just think there's.

Speaker 5 (38:43):
Best kept secret secret in town. By the way, absolutely
nobody can keep a secret anywhere, but we want to
know about this one that we cannot find out. Yeah,
you can only speculate.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
But it's coming to a head this week because his
twenty one day window is up this week. So if
he's not activated for the Chargers game on Sunday.

Speaker 4 (39:03):
No, no, no, it would be after This is the
last seven days so.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Washington following two.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
Christmas for the Washington So it's come into a head
within the next eight days whether he's going to be
shut down for the season or active.

Speaker 5 (39:21):
I gotta say, uh, I don't like those broken relationships,
you know, especially when you have someone who was as
valuable to this team as Diggs has been. When it
comes to your mind and your heart, it ain't always
in it, and it kind of it betrays you because

(39:44):
it puts you in a bad light sometimes because you
don't react well to what's going on. And right now
he's just not reacting. Well. We know he's a hell
of a player, but he's just at the time that
this was started happening, he just wasn't presenting himself in
the best light.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
If you look at the games he played previously, it
didn't look like he was all in. Yeah, I mean
his coverage whatever they were asking him to do wasn't
top notch.

Speaker 5 (40:11):
That was that was really early on. Yeah, you could
only improve from there, right, which there was some improvement,
but it just didn't you know, it didn't lead to
success for us well.

Speaker 4 (40:25):
And the other thing is his attitude towards the team
was almost like Parsons. Parsons attitude towards the team didn't
improve until he was in contract negotiations. Then he was
all in right, and with Diggs he was kind of

(40:45):
the same way. Then when he came back after his
stay on injured reserve, it was almost like, oh, I'm interacting,
I'm part of the team during warm ups, I'm with everybody,
and it was.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
I think, I think he's changed.

Speaker 5 (41:01):
And I think, you know, the tragedy that we had
had a lot to do with that as well. I
think he couldn't help but be drawn in right by
the closeness that was surrounding this team.

Speaker 4 (41:14):
And that's a good thing, almost by osmosis, right there,
you go.

Speaker 5 (41:17):
Yeah, I mean he had to just organically, you know,
you see the attitude of everyone around here. You can't help.
You couldn't help but be affected by that, right, And
so I'm hoping, man, maybe it's too late, but I'm
hoping that gives him a totally new light that shines
a totally new light on what he thinks about this

(41:38):
team and his future with this team. Now.

Speaker 4 (41:40):
I know, playing ping pong in the locker room with
your teammates is not always a signal, but I never
saw Parsons interact until he's that contract was being negotiated
and Jerry kept talking about a leader. All of a sudden,
he's playing ping pong. Well there wasn't a ping pong
table there before, but just being in the locker room

(42:02):
with the guy. And then like a month ago, all
of a sudden, Digs is in there interacting.

Speaker 5 (42:08):
Well, either you interacted, you're all alone.

Speaker 4 (42:10):
Yeah, because that's is everybody else.

Speaker 5 (42:12):
Everybody else is all in. Yeah. And so if it's
if he's forced to come in, then that's fine as
long as the result is he's in. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:21):
But and are you ready to play?

Speaker 5 (42:23):
Well right now?

Speaker 4 (42:25):
Hell?

Speaker 5 (42:25):
I think is are you? Are they ready for you
to play? Right right now? I think that's what we are.
I don't think I think it may be out of
his hands.

Speaker 4 (42:34):
Oh it is, yeah, because he can say what he wants.
It's it's up to them if he's playing or not.

Speaker 5 (42:40):
And if they gave me a vote, I want him here.
I want him here. We need some talent in our secondary.
We got to have it.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
And if you were Trayvon right now, with three games
left in this season and not knowing what your future
is here and with the one percent chance of making
the playoffs, what would you want to do right now?

Speaker 5 (43:06):
If I would trade? I want to play. I'm sorry.
Any player wants to play that, that's that's the question.
Should you play? That's a whole other thing. If I
just came off with a knee injury, I had surgery
and all of that, and I've been ramping up all
this time, I want to play.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
You have to payoff to what all that work you've
been putting in.

Speaker 5 (43:25):
And if nothing else, show somebody else that I can play.
If that, since it's out of my hands, show somebody
else that I can play. Okay, you you know it's
my fault. Yes, now here we are. You hold the cards.
I want to show somebody else out there what I
can do, because right now yes, my fault, but right
now I don't trust your decision for me. Yes, it's

(43:51):
my fault. But now, even though you hold the cards,
I still have to do what's best for me starting
from here.

Speaker 3 (43:59):
Uh could her? Michael Parsons has a torn a cl
and of course Patrick Mahomes of the torn a cl
as well.

Speaker 5 (44:05):
It's a tough day yesterday, just a tough day for football,
and we have failed to point out that.

Speaker 4 (44:15):
Your one percent chance means the Cowboys got to win
three in a row and the Eagles lose all.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
The Eagles three games or two against Washington won at Buffalo.

Speaker 4 (44:27):
Well watch watch out for them, commanders.

Speaker 5 (44:29):
Yeah, okay, think you'll help us out.

Speaker 4 (44:34):
There on a winning streak. They beat the Giants.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
And there's no chance. As far as a wild card.

Speaker 4 (44:43):
There's I started counting up and there's five teams. The
only team had they won, at least they would have
passed Carolina, which is seven and seven, and you would
have been seven.

Speaker 5 (44:57):
It's like every team ahead of us, they beat us.

Speaker 4 (45:00):
It's almost well, Detroit or Troy, Carolina, Green Bay, Tie
and Green Tide and Chicago, Yes, but they're in first place.

Speaker 5 (45:10):
How about it that you.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
Feel Bears in Minnesota's almost passed you now six and
eight and finally Philip Rivers.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
I can't even comment it was the only thing bad
was it didn't pay off in a win, right, and
he had the lead, right, he had the lead. They
kick a field going to go up sixteen fifteen and
late in the game, and then the Seahawks come down
and kick a fifty six yard field.

Speaker 5 (45:38):
You got you got dag back here running for his life,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
Classic thing. Did you see the video of Rivers high
school team in Alabama?

Speaker 5 (45:48):
They had a watch.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
Party, of course, Oh I saw, yeah, yeah, Saint Michael's
Catholic High school whatever. They're all around the TV. And
when he threw the touchdown pass the place, of course,
he erupts.

Speaker 5 (45:59):
So anyway, now when I see him sitting back there
in the pocket, you know, I always got a chance
to win. I see Dad back here playing his butt off,
and you know, don't get me started now, I mean,
you got a defense, can't, can't.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
And you made you made a good point when you
when you said he was cocking like he was ready, and.

Speaker 5 (46:21):
It's like, no, no, that's the way Mama was the
same way, same way, same way.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
Should have rolled him out just from the start.

Speaker 5 (46:28):
Yeah, all right?

Speaker 3 (46:30):
Does it for a Monday edition of Mixed Shots. Enjoy
your Monday and Tuesday, and we will see you again
on Wednesday, high noon.

Speaker 5 (46:40):
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