October 7, 2025 • 48 mins
Forty-eight hours later the guys continue talking about the victory over the Jets, including how well Dak played, how coordinated this NFL No. 1 offense seemed, including the ability to run the football, the improved coverage in the secondary and each guy picking their defensive “dog” needing to continue stepping up.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 3 (00:30):
It's time for another edition of mix Shots as we
turn the page from the windless New York Jets to
the two win Carolina Panthers. Here inside, Welcome in to
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One of us has his Cowboy blue on today.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Absolutely right, absolutely, I don't think we're turning the page though.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Nope, we're not. I wouldn't have to do not until
probably Thursday. Yeah, get there.
Speaker 6 (01:02):
We have no midnight rule right, Oh sure, there's no
midnight ruler on the show.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Shot shot. He's the only one and the team, I guess, Okay.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
I like that. I like that we gloat like I
like gloating gloats.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Yeah, I mean, you know, isn't it easier when the
Cowboys win? You know, you feel like, hey, let me
turn on and see what they're doing on first take?
Get up, you know, Sports Center. You know, it's it's
so much easier to listen to the broadcast because.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
It's not talking about the cowboys when they.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Well you don't really see us on there much.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Yeah, when, but boy, when we lose, everything is louder
like the angry Why they're so angry?
Speaker 5 (01:44):
What is going on? What did we do to them?
Are there?
Speaker 7 (01:47):
Are they're diminishing to win?
Speaker 5 (01:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Oh, no doubt, no doubt. There's such pessimism out there.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
When we win.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
It's different this time though, because uh, as we get
into the little breakdown by heckma.
Speaker 6 (02:00):
Why I gotta be little? Why you gotta put a
little in front of him? Why do old people do that?
My grandmama you said, your little family and your little house.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
You are right, this is a Southern thing I can
argue with.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
But with this complete breakdown that we have here, run
down that that.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
You want to give the headlines.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
The headlines first? Uh forty eight hours later? Second thoughts,
and my second thought is there is much more optimism
about Dak Prescott today.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Than there was when he was what third in the
m v P.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Voting, the second in the m v P two years ago.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
And there was not that optimism was not there even
as much as it is right now. And the way
he's playing now, both both seasons were are great. You know,
that turned out to be a great season. Now here
we are look like forward him doing the same.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
You know why because the results of that MVP voting
came out after a playoff loss Bay Packers two years ago.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
And you know, come on, man, you can every quarterback
except for Tom Brady, doesn't win the Super Bowl every
freaking year. You know, Mahomes is the next best thing
in regards to the number of wins.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
How Mahomes? How has Mahomes done lately?
Speaker 5 (03:20):
He's done?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Okay, what about lately? As in the last twelve hour.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Last twelve I was not doing this. I know we
have a better record than the Chiefs do. How about
I know that much?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
How about that?
Speaker 5 (03:31):
That was pretty cool?
Speaker 6 (03:32):
Yeah, So for optimism, have you guys started to sway
to the MVP talks of one Dak Prescott? Have you
started to have that thought in your head, Mickey, when
you're going into writing your article that maybe I should
start this where we're dealing with an MVP season for Dak.
Speaker 7 (03:51):
It didn't occur to me until I heard the fans channing.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Playing well. The Jets fans were chanting of VP.
Speaker 8 (04:00):
Cowboy fans in New York took over the stadium, by
the way, and you know, once again they it's not
just the fans, the pundits themselves.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
For some reason, they're a lot more optimistic this year
about DAK and I think it's because of what he's
working with a working against.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
I'd say his own defense.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Well, because they have this record in spite of the
fact that the defense is at.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
One point playing horribly, horribly bad.
Speaker 7 (04:28):
He's got the number one total offense in the league.
He has something to do with it, number three passing offense,
number one in first downs, number one in total first
down yardage. I guess he doesn't have much to do
with number one field gold perceived, and in the NFC
(04:53):
is well. He's seventh in the NFC, thirteenth overall with
a one oh one point one quarterback rating, So it's numbers.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
So you got a lot of quarterbacks out there, then, yeah,
the quarterbacks are playing well, playing well.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah, But I just did a chat GPT and I
put in the question, is it possible to win NFL
MVP while playing on a five hundred or sub five
hundred team, And the answer is no, it's never happened
before in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
And that's why it's time to make a move something.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
And that's why something's got your question, Hakma, I haven't
given any any thought whatsoever to MVP on a five
hundred team.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
Yeah, well, I mean this it's still come on, guys,
it's early.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Oh he's playing great. I mean to take nothing away
from that, he's playing, but the team has to start
winning games.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
Can we live in the now?
Speaker 7 (05:45):
Can we live now in the five hundred records.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Let's let's start off to get.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
To five hundred when you've only played five games, because
you have to go to two and one to do that.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
But when you look around, when you look around the
the NFL and you look at the teams that are
know what, there's no undefeated team anymore. So everyone the
top of the league is for one, but everybody falls
into the same category. And I'm just saying right now,
as it relates to just the numbers and what that
Not just the numbers, but what your eyeballs tell you,
there's no one in the league playing better than Dak
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right now.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
Period.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
This is why you're doing it.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
MVP voting is running.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
You don't do MVP voting.
Speaker 7 (06:21):
After five games or before the season.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
It's like to me, it's like all the Heisman Trophy
talking college football gets started way too early, and it's
the same thing that we're going to start talking MVPs
and five games in the season. Arch Manning won the
Heisman Trophy before he played a game at Texas whatever.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Yeah, you know, And I asked the question and the
answer I thought was amazing.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
It's running game.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
The running game is what makes everything look more comfortable
for Dak right now.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
They can't just tee off on him. He doesn't have to.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Make miracle plays as he did the year that he
was up that he got second in the voting. Those
miracle plays don't exist anymore because of the comfort zone
he has back here. He's comfortable back here because that
offensive line is doing their job and I don't care
which offensive line, and that that's the that's the luxury
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right there here. We all we got four backups playing,
and he still looked justice comfortable.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Yes, the Jets were having problems, but.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
That Jets team was trying to win that game with
everything that they had. And they could not do it,
and we looked comfortable as we staved them off.
Speaker 7 (07:38):
Look, he's playing like Dak Prescott. Everybody judged him off
of last year. Right, he played what seven and a
half games? Well, he played in the eighth, but he
didn't finish it again, so he got hurt. He was
playing with a beat up wide receiver corps right.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Injured receiver. There wasn't in training camp too, And.
Speaker 7 (08:02):
Yeah, exactly, and so everybody's judging him off of last
year instead of twenty twenty three, twenty twenty two, twenty
twenty one. He's playing like Dak. Prescott's exactly what I acpect,
exactly what I expected. But there's too many people out
there that don't know because they're not here, they don't
see it. And again it's the Cowboys. So all that
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factors in.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
And once again we talked about it yesterday, the running
game that we have, the architects of that running game
that we have. Now you talk about the guy's game
from Arizona, is that Yeah, Layton Adams.
Speaker 7 (08:41):
Coming in, don O'Reilly.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
I mean, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
You can see the difference in our entire offense. It
makes Dak look a lot more comfortable. Like I said,
it didn't have to make any miracle plays. He just
sit back there and allow the game plan to come
to him and shot. He's doing it just the way
he's supposed to be doing it. The timing is good.
The calls that he's making are timely calls, which makes
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Dak look better in the pocket.
Speaker 7 (09:07):
So yeah, I just think that you know, that's Dak Prescott. Yeah,
it's what I expected.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
Now you have a Dak Prescott with a running game
that's scary. Yeah, that's scary.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
So the MVP talks and the reason I'm saying to
live in the now of what's happening is because we
know that no one's going to give him credit for
where he is now. Everyone's extending this to the playoffs
that you've not even made it to yet to say
what his legacy as the Cowboys quarterback is going to be.
And I think, if I'm Dak, I'm saying the same
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thing to myself. I heard him actually say it in
a post game that look, I'm chasing not just the numbers,
I'm chasing the legacy of great quarterbacks that have come
before me, like the Starbucks, the Apemans to be able
to make it to an NFC Championship game, finally. But
when you have an offense that's clicking like this, and
yet we've been saying, God forbid this defense at any
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point wakes up, you're gonna have a team that is
going to be dangerous no matter where you go, because
when you go on the road, you take that running
game with me and it takes all the air out
of buildings when you go right. And so it's giving
Dak that comfort zone that we saw back in twenty sixteen.
And if you look at the numbers in some of
his most incredible years, which was twenty twenty three when
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he threw for forty five hundred yards, he's on pace
right now to definitely do better, you know, do better
than that. And so obviously health and all that is
included in everything that I'm saying. But if this team
and think about this Everson City, lamb in Bland and
nobody and I think we're not even talking about it.
(10:45):
Oh wow, we're not even talking about that. Your main
receiver is not playing. And that's the void that a
George Pickens takes up. That's also the void that a
Jake Ferguson takes up as well. So it's time to
give Jay. It's time to give Dak his flowers and
given to him early because he's on that path.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
I agree, I definitely agree.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
What say you, Bill, There's no doubt there is There
is no doubt. He's playing at an incredible.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
He says, its way to get.
Speaker 7 (11:13):
His career, his career numbers. He's right, he's ahead of
Troy Aikman in something.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
He's playing exactly the way I expected him to play.
Speaker 7 (11:22):
Yeah, he's right behind Tony Romo. So this is not
a surprise this year. This has been his career. He
just never got much credit for him. So it's not
a surprise to me.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
And and I once again, he doesn't even there were
times in the past where he had his entire arsenal
available to him, and this year he does not, And
he's playing extremely well in spite of that. And as
far as I'm concerned, this is exactly the way I
kind of figured things would go. I think what I
said in the beginning of the season, we're going to
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be looking at five hundred as we go into the stretch,
and that's going to be in November. And as far
as I'm concerned. I think our worst play playing days
are behind us. Defensively, that's the last to.
Speaker 7 (12:12):
Tell us that true since the Cowboys, And how many
times do you think this has happened? They've got the
number one offense and the number thirty second defense.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
Wow, still.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
There's a lot of that.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
I don't know if you go to answer that, where's
the lesson that happened?
Speaker 7 (12:30):
I've got well at five games into the season, whatever
it is. But that's the remarkable thing of being five
hundred right.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
The goal I think for this team should be let's
get ready for that stretch. Yes, you take one game
at a time leading up to that, but we know
that things are going to get so tight within the next.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Couple of three weeks that we're.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Going to have to be ready on on all levels.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
On all levels. We haven't even we haven't.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
We haven't used our special teams, uh magic as much
as we should right now. But I think once we
start playing into the season early on more into the season,
I think every aspect of our game has to be
clicking on the on the tolerant level, that'll be at
least tolerant level.
Speaker 7 (13:18):
Well, if you think about it, there's no more undefeated teams. Right,
so everybody's at least got one loss. Yep, if not
more so, they've got one less loss than the Cowboy.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
That's it looks good.
Speaker 7 (13:36):
You know what I wanted to do? Okay, you have
the standings there in my head. We'll do it at
the break. Where's what I wanted?
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Okay, I've got, I got, I got.
Speaker 7 (13:46):
Basically the six games in a row, yes, from Sunday
before thanks, Yes, until the last second to last game.
Those six teams. How many losses do they have combined?
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Well, okay, let's go through them here. It starts with Philadelphia.
They are four and one, okay, Kansas City is now
two and three, got three, Then you got Detroit and
the Lions are four and one.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Then is it to Minnesota, next Minnesota Chargers. Minnesota's three
and two. Chargers are three and two, and then Washington
is three and two. So six, seven, ten, eleven losses
amongst those sixteens, so.
Speaker 7 (14:28):
They're kind of mortal. We had all those teams going
to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 9 (14:32):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Basically there there combined nineteen and eleven that which is
a decent that's a tough stretch.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Yeah, but they're not as tough as it was at
the beginnings, though, right there's some losses.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
In there, unexpected losses from the other.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Well, okay, so Kansas City is a game out of
first place in the West. The Chargers and Broncos are
at three and two. They're at two and three. Okay,
the Lions are in first place in the NFC North. Okay, Yeah,
Minnesota is a game back at three and two. The
Chargers are in first place in the West. Who I
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missed in there, and then Washington is in second place
in the East, a game behind Philadelphia, so.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
They're a tie away.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
What I look at more than anything are the quarterbacks
on those teams and if healthy those quarterbacks. Okay, Hurts
is still healthy, Jaden Daniels is healthy, Golf is healthy,
My homes is healthy, Herbert's healthy, and in Minnesota you
get either WinCE or JJ McCarthy whatever.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
So yeah, at that point of the season, it's all
going to come down to that who's healthy.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
I mean, no, the Ravens right now there absolutely.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Where their defense is playing, uh, and part of that
is because of the injuries they have on defense too.
Mattabk a big one, and they played without their corner
and their safety Hamilton last week. And but you take
Lamarge accident out of the equation and you got Cooper
Rush totally different style.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
Well, you become mortal when you play without Lamar Jackson.
I mean, come on, you got an MVP.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Look at Derry. Henry goes fifteen Garis for thirty three
yards when he doesn't have.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
Why is that three quarter?
Speaker 6 (16:14):
Because now you got only one guy to concentrate on, which,
by the.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Way, looking at the film and looking at the all
twenty two they run defense for the Cowboys, I think
some of that, and I haven't been able to look
through the whole tape yet, but looking at it early on,
there was one play in particular early where Breis Hall
went for nine yards nine or ten yards on a
play and it was solely a product of It was
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like a zone read and the handed off to Haul
and Sanborn got out of position because he had to
respect the fact that Fields might keep it and so
he was just a step off and there was a
hole big enough. They got the block on Murray the
other linebacker. The center got the block there and they
got nine yards. So part of the undefense issues, I
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think that the Cowboys had in this game where there
was the run threat that the quarterback presented, even the
runs up the middle, because you had to respect the fact.
What if Fields pulls it out and takes off.
Speaker 7 (17:12):
So yeah, no, exactly, Well.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
You got to respect it. You got to respect And
that's the thing that you see with Baltimore as you
point that out, teams not having to respect it because
they're not worried about Cooper Rush running the ball. They're
worried about Henry running the ball.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Eric Murray, He's got to keep that center off of him.
He has to keep that center off of him. Because
you got good, good, good running defense. They have the
ability each man to beat his block, to get off
of his block, not necessarily be completely detached, but you
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want to make sure that you have him under control
on this side and you're free to make the tackle.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
With this side.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
We always get caught up in well, we're still fussing
with the blocker. He's gone. You don't have time. You
have to get off of the block in the Tommy fashion.
And they kept gashing us over and over again with
the same plate and the same.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
And whether it's getting off the block or reading and
being able to read the gun and look at where
you can evade that blocker before he gets on to
which was what Seawn Lee was so great.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
And that was all preparation, anticipation.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
That's right, read and react. Yeah, all right, just getting started.
I want to go into man, I've been looking at
that ninety yard drive late first quarter, early second quarter
and the different personnel that the Cowboys used on that
using lipke and the multiple tight ends as well. On
that drive. It was a clinic that Clayton Adams, Brian
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Schottenheimer and that coaching staff put together, especially considering what
the personnel they had on their offensive line. So we
come back here on mix shots in a moment.
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Speaker 3 (21:26):
All right, let's talk about what this offensive coaching staff
is doing, and especially considering what they had to work
with up front on their offensive line. With an inexperienced
left tackle, of course, you know, the only veteran that
had a lot of playing experience in the past. With
Terrence Steele at right tackle, you had a Chema Dynegy
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playing left guard, and you had of course Brockoffman at
center and TJ. Bassett right guard. And in particular I
just love that ninety yard thirteen played at the end
of the first quarter beginning of the second quarter. That
took off six ten of the clock started at your
own ten yard line. And the things that they did
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using different personnel groups on that drive. And one of
the things that I think was a key mickey you
can talk to this is the heat factor in that game.
And Okay, so who was the one guy that you
were really concerned with upfront on the Jets defending Quinn Williams?
And when you look at the snap count in that
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game on the season, I went back and looked at
Quinn Williams in that game. He had thirty five of
the sixty snaps, which is fifty eight percent of the snaps.
I think the heat played a factor in this game,
getting him off the field when you were able to
control the football like the Cowboys did in particular on
that particular drive he was on. Remember that that was
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the drive It started with him jumping the count and
jumping off sides. Okay, so that play out. Uh. He
was on the field for three plays to start that drive,
then he was off the field for three, on the
field for three and then off the field for the
final four plays of that drive. It was as if
the Cowboys coaching staff they figured out, okay, when Quinn
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is off, it was like they went with heavy personnel,
had Lipkey on the field, But it was when he
was off the field is when they went to remember
they had the screen passed to Lipke on a third
down play. It was well designed with Bergerson was out
as a lead blocker over.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
There and uh and that uh and that was done
first down.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Yeah, and that play. Actually Williams was still on the field.
He went off the field right after that play. Again,
but on those snapcounts the game before against Miami, Quinn
Williams and of course it's not cool in Miami, humidity
be up there. He was on the field for seventy
eight percent of the place fifty eight percent in this
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game and against Tampa Bay earlier this season, sixty seven
percent of the seventy seven percent. No, what I'm saying.
What I'm saying is though he was and he was
on the field so much, and Miami's offense was not
doing with the Cowboy with a ninety played a ninety
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yard drive and a ninety five yard drive later, Cowboys
took advantage of when he was not on the field
with their some of their play calling and just the
the and that that was the drive to that culminated
in and it was with Lipke on the field, twenty
one personnel, and it was the screen pass to Ferguson.
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But the way that they manipulated the pass rush they
you saw on the Ferguson touchdown where the defensive end came,
it was it was like Ferguson checked him a little bit,
but let him go and Dak got rid of the
football on every time on a rollout very quickly to Ferguson.
It was all designed and I thought it was just
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a masterclass in no he was in coaching on that
entire drive.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
I mean, you call it six minutes, ten seconds, and
I think, for me, if you look at what schat
Nhammer did in that first half, the whole entire game,
but specifically in this drive, it was the balance and
the rhythm of the offense that kept those drives going.
And even when you got to a third down, I
don't think you ever worried about not picking up the
first down. And you were talking about the rotation, and
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I thought that was more of the success and shows
you the confidency has in these guys with Lipke withit,
Flenoy and the players that contributed on that drive, and
so I mean it.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
Really is a who's who when you go through.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
I mean Jayden Blue came in had a six yard
carry also, and.
Speaker 7 (25:49):
So he picked up a blitz too, by the.
Speaker 6 (25:51):
Way, Yeah, he sure did. I mean probably that was
the prerequisite to even get him get in a.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Jersey's Let's look at even the great years that that
Dak has had. There were times when our offensive productivity
was good, but sometimes our execution in crucial situations failed us.
I mean big games as well, to where we're like,
what the hell just happened there?
Speaker 5 (26:17):
You just don't see that now.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
When you talked about the rhythm, you know, I always
talked about that myself. There's a rhythm to the game.
There's a rhythm to each play, there's a count to
each play. The Cowboys offensively, not just Dak, but offensively,
everyone is on the same page.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
I remember last year Ferguson there were.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Times when we were depending on him to do a particular, committed,
particular task and he didn't quite have the timing of it.
And then throughout the entire timing of the entire play,
we have not seen that this year.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
You've seen Dak miss.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Some throws, which he always apologizes about. But for the
most part, we are in sync man to man down
the line. We are in sync on what everyone has
to do. On those plays that are somewhat deceptive, our
deception game is very good because the timing is there
between every player. There are times in the past, in
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the clutch on the road when we were just out there, like,
what the hell did we just doing? You know, I
haven't seen that this year.
Speaker 7 (27:22):
They picked up three They converted three third downs on
that drive, and I thought that, well, there was two
big ones, the slant pass to Pickens third and six
and then the third and one that looked like Williams
got stopped and ended up hit for two yards.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
And that was a quick snap too. Yeah it was,
and I think it. I think it was Hoffmann on
his home basically. No, it's surprised Dak with a snap.
He reacted great to it.
Speaker 9 (27:55):
But they.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
The left defensive end uh crashed hits Williams in the
backfield and Javante was able to get away from him.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
Man, Yeah, that.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Was that was gonna be a three yard loss. And
if not for Javante being able to shake him and
then he turned into a two yard game.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
So let's just look at these these plays now that
could have been disastrous. They were not disastrous because of
individuals who as a uh, we've been talking about those dogs.
Yeah you got, you got Javonte, He's a dog. You know, pickings.
I'm gonna catch this slant.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
I don't care who's guarding me, Sa sauce or no,
it don't matter. Sauce, no sauce. That's a goer.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Even if it was Lipkey. I mean, it wasn't guarantee
that Lipky was gonna get that first down. His running ability,
he knew where he had to get.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
He went for.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Yeah, right, yeah, he went for I mean you could
just see he could have his eyes on that first down.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
And so that's individual work. That's not team work.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
That's individuals taking upon themselves. Because I think there's a
belief in this offensive system, even though we've had Kellen
doing a good job, you know, but the balance that
we have with this system, it just seems to pull
everybody else in the same direction.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
If you go back and look at that driving what
the Cowboys had to do with ninety five Quinn Williams.
They were doubling him throughout every time he was in
the game. They were doubling him, yes, Lord, And then
he comes out of the game. It was on that
blue six yard run. He's out of the game and
the Cowboys go with twenty two personnel, they had two
tight ends, they had Lipkey in the game at fullback,
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and they got six yards on that play. They got
him down. That was a first and ten play, and
it was two plays prior to the converting and getting
a touchdown to.
Speaker 7 (29:45):
Ferguson even threw a past the scootmaker for three yards.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
Yeah, this is a schoolmaker sighting. He actually looked a
little athletic. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
But if you dissect it, it was like the Cowboys
coaches had a plan to your point, they had a
play for when Quinn Williams, when ninety five's out of
the game, we're going with this package. And of course
you have to stay ahead of the chains on that
not have negative plays.
Speaker 6 (30:09):
So Bill, Bill, you accused me earlier of drinking the
kool aid, and that was the reason why, you know
this is that drive was the reason why. And I
know that we all have been bogged down by this
word culture, you know, And you were just talking about
those dogs and guys fighting for those extra yards that
you know, the guys that are staying locking step with
their quarterback stay because you never know. You said the
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other day, Dak will throw it to anybody that's open.
He's not going to one particular guy. So what does
that do? It heightens your awareness to win your route
and also look for the ball because you don't know
when the ball is coming to you, you know. So
I think you know with Brian Schottenheimer, obviously yesterday we
gave his assistant coaches their flowers, and it should be
because the offensive line coach is doing a miraculous job.
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But what Schottenheimer is doing, even after losses, even after
those you know, over times where a ton of points
have been scored, he's continuing to bring home the fact
that this team can get better. And you see it
weekend and week out, the improvements offensively. You were saying,
going back to last season where a guy you know,
look the sticks are right there, fight to get to
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the sticks, and a guy run out of bounds or
not try and fight for the first down. That to
me is the difference when I'm watching this Cowboy team
from what I saw last season.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
And I think it's also too acquiring players who have
the mental makeup to be able to understand situational awareness
and guys.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
At this point, I'm really all of my points I'm
trying to make it goes towards the offense and its production.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
I still don't feel good about our defense.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
I won't feel comfortable until our defense can be at
just a little bit above average.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
Like maybe not give up four hundred yards a game.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
Maybe not, maybe not if we can do that, I
don't like.
Speaker 7 (32:04):
I don't like the right direction. There's the last.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
Forty eight hours, so there was three for a long time,
it was just three points right for a long time,
was six for six three. So I mean, you know,
I can give them love on that. I don't care
how bad the team is. You're playing a team at
home that's desperate and you still hold them the way
our defense did.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
I gotta say that we're stepping in that right direction.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
But there's a lot more to go to where we're
going to need not just a game plan. We're gonna
need the dogs to step up because there are gonna
be some games where Hey, our offense line getting a
bus kick today, There's gonna be some matchup problems as
we go out.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
Through the season.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
That's where you have to have the individual step up
now and make a difference in the game.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Okay, so when we come back, how about this? Who
are the dogs on that defense? You want to see?
Speaker 5 (32:56):
Step up? I got one.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
I got when we come back.
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Speaker 3 (35:29):
Okay, the Landry shift a response on Twitter myself, Oh
let's go around. He what's your what's your Twitter?
Speaker 6 (35:39):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (35:40):
Heckma underscore Harrison.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
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Speaker 5 (35:44):
Yeah, balls underscore at twenty four Okay.
Speaker 7 (35:47):
At SPAGS fifty two.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Okay, I'm CBS eleven, Bill Jones, So Gilman, I'm not
sure if it's Sid Gilman's heir or what. But hey, Bill,
why don't we do the shift whenever we have to
try on fourth and five or less? We might get
the defense to jump.
Speaker 5 (36:07):
I can see that. Okay.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Everson likes that idea.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
The only reason, the.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Only reason they didn't jump when we did it because
we did it all the time. But now if you break,
you put it in.
Speaker 7 (36:15):
And especially throw a fly, and you put it.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
In when we're on the road. It's fourth and one.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Everybody stands up there.
Speaker 6 (36:25):
Yeah, if they do it in the game. Guys, you
know where you heard it first, that's all.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
It's Gil on Twitter. All right, dogs on defense? Who
you got? What are you thinking? Ever since? You want
to start?
Speaker 5 (36:36):
Now? I don't go y you want to start? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (36:38):
I don't know why I overlooked this.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
And by the way, to set this up, if you
were just joining us ever since posed that last segment
said hey, we need some dogs to step up on defense,
like the dogs that are stepping up on offense.
Speaker 7 (36:56):
Well I saw dogs step up on defense, and I
was guilt of not realizing it till the next day.
Schamar James, Yeah, had seventeen tackles.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Wow, seventeen went up.
Speaker 7 (37:10):
When they went over it, they found two more and
I was like, where'd that come from? Well, here's what happened.
They they were getting him ready for packages in the game.
And I went back and looked and third play of
the game, the Cowboys had a six man front. He
was lined up right over the center guard. He was rushing.
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He almost deflected the pass. The second time he was
in there. They did it again, right, and he's rushing,
so they're trying to take advantage of his athletic ability.
And then the third possession he was on the nickel
defense and then Sanborn gets hurt, so now they got
a shifting when Murray goes in the middle, Leo File
(37:55):
and James. He ended up playing like I think it
was seven seventy seventy three percent of the snaps, but
he had seventeen tackles as a rookie. That's the most
he's played defensively in the game. Because when he first
got a uniform on, it was basically special teams, and
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then all of a sudden, Okay, you're going to play
these packages and then oh no, big boy, yeh you're in.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
He played sixty of the eighty two snaps.
Speaker 7 (38:23):
In the game, and they liked him. They traded up
for him yep in the draft.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Yeah. In fact, the way I understand it is, Okay,
who's the fifth round pick and Jayden Blue's fifth round pick.
So they took Blue first, and they were trying to
decide do we take the running back, we take the
linebacker at that point, and so they got the running
back Blue was available for him, and so then they decided, Okay,
let's go get the linebacker, and so they traded up
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to just a few spots later.
Speaker 7 (38:53):
Was a Florida. Is that why he I.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Think it's more that he was just young, and you know,
even though he's been on the field, I don't think
I don't think there was an injury concern, but he
fell when years old in his draft ability.
Speaker 7 (39:06):
Yeah, so well I think we're going to see a
little bit more of it. Got to get him on
the field. And you know Leah foul too, so there
might be a shift in that linebacker.
Speaker 5 (39:18):
Cord I love it so my pederal.
Speaker 6 (39:21):
That's Spanish for dog getting you ready for bad bunny bis.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
Donovan as a rock.
Speaker 6 (39:30):
Now, No, don't you know you skipped, you skip, try
to get your turn.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
You gave it up, so you get to get.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Somebody.
Speaker 6 (39:42):
Yes, Donovan as a rockle For me, it's just look again,
when when the whole Parsons trade happened, you realize in
the defensive end edge Russia room you got you were
gonna need a guy to step up. Sam Williams, Dante Fowler,
guys like that. But your rookie is definitely showing you
his capability. What he's done is stopping to run and
you see how steady he is and not get it
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set in the edge and things like that that I
think really drives the excitement for who he is as
a young player. And so you just you go the
games that you're talking about where your defense may be
called on to get a stop, get the ball back
to your offense. It's guys like that that I'm saying,
look better now than late, because you're gonna have to
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have this defense, this defensive front step up in a
major way. We saw in this game just how much
difference getting pressure on the quarterback makes for the secondary.
You know that is the front supports the back. But
Donovan is a ROCKU for me a pleasant surprise. Love
the way that he's playing. He's not the He's not
the biggest guy in the world.
Speaker 7 (40:46):
He's like two forty something.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
Yeah, you know, I'm vertical.
Speaker 6 (40:51):
Yeah, I'm just not as it can when you talk
about guys like Sam Williams and how big those guys are.
Speaker 5 (40:57):
But he gets it done.
Speaker 6 (40:58):
I mean, great patt born with good pat leverage then
because of his height in his way, but just a
guy that's really good around the horn. I just want
to see him get more pressures, get to the quarterback more.
But what he's doing in the running game, I'm really
pleased with.
Speaker 7 (41:13):
Well, he came as advertised as a pass rusher because
of what he did at was a busting in college, right,
he had sixteen and a half sacks, So everybody's while
the sack.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
He plays the run, and he played the run in
college too. That's one of the reasons they like me.
Speaker 7 (41:28):
And he's almost the DeMarcus Lawrence exactly replacement because Lawrence
was best run defenders. He was on defense.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
Think about this twenty fourteen. Who the Cowboys draft in
twenty fourteen, DeMarcus Lawrence. They drafted in the first round
and offensive guard named Zach Martin, and then they drafted
in the second round DeMarcus Lawrence had a Boys. That
was Will mcclay's first draft, Will mcclay's first draft, and
then this one they went Tyler Booker in the first
round and they came back with Asako in the second round.
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If they get the same kind of production out of
those that they got in two fourteen.
Speaker 7 (42:02):
Yeah, and no doubt, and don't forget Kneeland too. He
was playing well. Now he didn't play in this last game. Okay,
he had a I think it was a knee, but
he was playing well too at the defensive end spot.
And then all of a sudden, Dante Fowler like, hey,
I'm here. Where you been?
Speaker 5 (42:20):
Where have you been? Right? That's my question? But they
got he showed up. I ain't ever since I my guy,
my guy.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
When I when I when I critique players, it's only
because you know, I had the same thing happened to me. Dude,
you gotta do better. You know, someone had to come
to me when I was in college. May you got
you gotta do better. You can't do better. And then
I finally had to believe them to believed in me.
Donovan Wilson, that's my guy. He's got to play better.
He played better in this game, yes, and and I
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have to we have to continue to see that. To me,
he was the main reason they were giving up all
these damn points early on. But I could see the
improvement that he's now conscious of that, thank god, because
as a safety, you can't be caught up doing whatever
the hell he was doing.
Speaker 5 (43:11):
But in this game, I thought that he showed awareness.
Speaker 4 (43:16):
We didn't give up really many big plays from the
passing game at all, and they have the ability to
do that, especially with Wilson gar wils with Wilson being
out there. So Donvin Wilson, he's got to turn into
that dog that he was. I believe that was two
years ago when he was just really showing just with
the lack of speed that he has.
Speaker 5 (43:37):
We know he doesn't.
Speaker 4 (43:38):
At that time, he didn't worry about what he didn't have.
He was making plays in spite of and that's what
players do. And I need to see him get back
to that guy. And I saw a little bit of
that in the game against the Jets. So he needs
to be that guy who comes through, handle the seams,
handle the middle of the field, come up and make
their plays in the running game. That's what he was
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doing a couple of years ago. I got to see
that again.
Speaker 7 (44:02):
They cut down on their giving up big plays. Previous
when they list your ten longest plays, six of them
or seven of them would be past place. This time
just two two twenty five yards completions and then two
running plays for twenty at least twenty yards, So they
cut down on the big plays.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
He gave them enough double digit run place.
Speaker 8 (44:26):
Yeah, dog, you can't put that on my boy.
Speaker 5 (44:34):
No, no, no.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
I got. I got the corners though, getting healthy, Bland
and Digs, And if I think that will improve the defense,
and we show we are seeing signs of them getting
healthy and communication right and that I think that will
help because it will help Ebraflus being able to call
the defense if you can trust the corners can handle it.
Speaker 5 (44:56):
Did you guys think? Did you guys think?
Speaker 6 (44:58):
I mean, for me, I think with all the problems
that we've been outlining in the defense going into the
Green Bay game, when you saw Bland and Digs rotating,
I'm saying to myself, what the heck is going on?
And even with guys like Damon Clark being a healthy scratch,
you know what's going on. And I understand that it's
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just ebra Flus trying to find the right rotation and
mix of guys. And you gotta applaud the front office
for being able to allow these coaches to do that,
because here you got one of your highest paid corners
out there, guy that you just signed to a big
contract as well, and you're rotating these guys any other team,
any other time, any previous for the Dallas Cowboys, if
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these guys are healthy, they're on the field even if
they're not healthy enough to produce. And I think that's
a different spin on what you see going on this season,
where you know the coaches have more control over the personnel,
and I think that's a kudos to Jerry.
Speaker 4 (46:00):
I saw a good body language out there between the cornerbacks,
but really the entire secondary.
Speaker 7 (46:05):
Well, he was ready to play football that dig.
Speaker 5 (46:08):
Yes, it looks like it. His body language showed.
Speaker 7 (46:10):
It right, like he was a little confident.
Speaker 4 (46:12):
And they were talking back and forth when they were
coming out. They were much communication. There was no hey hey,
there was hey hey.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
October preseason's over. Yeah, and September preseason he needed.
Speaker 7 (46:24):
To pre se, not from a health standpoint, from playing football, right,
and he's getting there and he I think he had
a full week of practice too, so that helps. And
Bland same thing. Yeah, And you get those two guys
out there. And then there was times late where they
put Bland in the slot and put Elon in digs outside.
Speaker 3 (46:47):
We hardly have about that. We have some breaking. It
closed with this bit of breaking news, a quarterback trade
in the National Football A quarterback has just happened. The
Cincinnati Bank Goals have acquired quarterback Joe Flacco from the
Cleveland Browns along with a sixth round pick for a
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fifth round. But that means that is the headline here
we one step brother Chador is now the backup quarterback
in Cleveland be dressed out behind Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 4 (47:22):
Yeah, but now I gotta say, Dylan gab was he
played well? I mean he did the guy they had
him in position to win the damn ball game.
Speaker 5 (47:30):
He did it.
Speaker 3 (47:31):
I'm telling you this isn't my Oklahoma had I have on. Yeah,
but I said this off season, the best quarterback in
that room is Dylan gabers Man.
Speaker 6 (47:42):
Dylan gave right, the best player in that room, best quarterback,
not the best quarterback in that room.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
Right now.
Speaker 5 (47:51):
Okay, as far.
Speaker 3 (47:53):
As being prepared to play this season, okay, that's not
a disc shoudoor at all. He's just he's just going
to need more time. Dylan Gabriel's got six years of
college experience, and he is functional and can a smart player.
You can do those sorts of long long range. It
could be somebody else meet me on the group chat later.
(48:16):
That's up right now. I would go with Dylan Gabriel, Okay.
Speaker 7 (48:21):
Guy that's ready to play football.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
That's right, all right. That does it for a Tuesday
edition of Mix Shots. You want to do this again
tomorrow at noon.
Speaker 5 (48:29):
I'll be here for that, all right.
Speaker 3 (48:30):
We'll see you tomorrow at noon, then Cowboys.
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One of us has his Cowboy blue on today.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Absolutely right, absolutely, I don't think we're turning the page though.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Nope, we're not. I wouldn't have to do not until
probably Thursday. Yeah, get there.
Speaker 6 (01:02):
We have no midnight rule right, Oh sure, there's no
midnight ruler on the show.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Shot shot. He's the only one and the team, I guess, Okay.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
I like that. I like that we gloat like I
like gloating gloats.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Yeah, I mean, you know, isn't it easier when the
Cowboys win? You know, you feel like, hey, let me
turn on and see what they're doing on first take?
Get up, you know, Sports Center. You know, it's it's
so much easier to listen to the broadcast because.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
It's not talking about the cowboys when they.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Well you don't really see us on there much.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Yeah, when, but boy, when we lose, everything is louder
like the angry Why they're so angry?
Speaker 5 (01:44):
What is going on? What did we do to them?
Are there?
Speaker 7 (01:47):
Are they're diminishing to win?
Speaker 5 (01:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Oh, no doubt, no doubt. There's such pessimism out there.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
When we win.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
It's different this time though, because uh, as we get
into the little breakdown by heckma.
Speaker 6 (02:00):
Why I gotta be little? Why you gotta put a
little in front of him? Why do old people do that?
My grandmama you said, your little family and your little house.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
You are right, this is a Southern thing I can
argue with.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
But with this complete breakdown that we have here, run
down that that.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
You want to give the headlines.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
The headlines first? Uh forty eight hours later? Second thoughts,
and my second thought is there is much more optimism
about Dak Prescott today.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Than there was when he was what third in the
m v P.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Voting, the second in the m v P two years ago.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
And there was not that optimism was not there even
as much as it is right now. And the way
he's playing now, both both seasons were are great. You know,
that turned out to be a great season. Now here
we are look like forward him doing the same.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
You know why because the results of that MVP voting
came out after a playoff loss Bay Packers two years ago.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
And you know, come on, man, you can every quarterback
except for Tom Brady, doesn't win the Super Bowl every
freaking year. You know, Mahomes is the next best thing
in regards to the number of wins.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
How Mahomes? How has Mahomes done lately?
Speaker 5 (03:20):
He's done?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Okay, what about lately? As in the last twelve hour.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Last twelve I was not doing this. I know we
have a better record than the Chiefs do. How about
I know that much?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
How about that?
Speaker 5 (03:31):
That was pretty cool?
Speaker 6 (03:32):
Yeah, So for optimism, have you guys started to sway
to the MVP talks of one Dak Prescott? Have you
started to have that thought in your head, Mickey, when
you're going into writing your article that maybe I should
start this where we're dealing with an MVP season for Dak.
Speaker 7 (03:51):
It didn't occur to me until I heard the fans channing.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Playing well. The Jets fans were chanting of VP.
Speaker 8 (04:00):
Cowboy fans in New York took over the stadium, by
the way, and you know, once again they it's not
just the fans, the pundits themselves.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
For some reason, they're a lot more optimistic this year
about DAK and I think it's because of what he's
working with a working against.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
I'd say his own defense.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Well, because they have this record in spite of the
fact that the defense is at.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
One point playing horribly, horribly bad.
Speaker 7 (04:28):
He's got the number one total offense in the league.
He has something to do with it, number three passing offense,
number one in first downs, number one in total first
down yardage. I guess he doesn't have much to do
with number one field gold perceived, and in the NFC
(04:53):
is well. He's seventh in the NFC, thirteenth overall with
a one oh one point one quarterback rating, So it's numbers.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
So you got a lot of quarterbacks out there, then, yeah,
the quarterbacks are playing well, playing well.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah, But I just did a chat GPT and I
put in the question, is it possible to win NFL
MVP while playing on a five hundred or sub five
hundred team, And the answer is no, it's never happened
before in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
And that's why it's time to make a move something.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
And that's why something's got your question, Hakma, I haven't
given any any thought whatsoever to MVP on a five
hundred team.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
Yeah, well, I mean this it's still come on, guys,
it's early.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Oh he's playing great. I mean to take nothing away
from that, he's playing, but the team has to start
winning games.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
Can we live in the now?
Speaker 7 (05:45):
Can we live now in the five hundred records.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Let's let's start off to get.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
To five hundred when you've only played five games, because
you have to go to two and one to do that.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
But when you look around, when you look around the
the NFL and you look at the teams that are
know what, there's no undefeated team anymore. So everyone the
top of the league is for one, but everybody falls
into the same category. And I'm just saying right now,
as it relates to just the numbers and what that
Not just the numbers, but what your eyeballs tell you,
there's no one in the league playing better than Dak
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right now.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
Period.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
This is why you're doing it.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
MVP voting is running.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
You don't do MVP voting.
Speaker 7 (06:21):
After five games or before the season.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
It's like to me, it's like all the Heisman Trophy
talking college football gets started way too early, and it's
the same thing that we're going to start talking MVPs
and five games in the season. Arch Manning won the
Heisman Trophy before he played a game at Texas whatever.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Yeah, you know, And I asked the question and the
answer I thought was amazing.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
It's running game.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
The running game is what makes everything look more comfortable
for Dak right now.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
They can't just tee off on him. He doesn't have to.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Make miracle plays as he did the year that he
was up that he got second in the voting. Those
miracle plays don't exist anymore because of the comfort zone
he has back here. He's comfortable back here because that
offensive line is doing their job and I don't care
which offensive line, and that that's the that's the luxury
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right there here. We all we got four backups playing,
and he still looked justice comfortable.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Yes, the Jets were having problems, but.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
That Jets team was trying to win that game with
everything that they had. And they could not do it,
and we looked comfortable as we staved them off.
Speaker 7 (07:38):
Look, he's playing like Dak Prescott. Everybody judged him off
of last year. Right, he played what seven and a
half games? Well, he played in the eighth, but he
didn't finish it again, so he got hurt. He was
playing with a beat up wide receiver corps right.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Injured receiver. There wasn't in training camp too, And.
Speaker 7 (08:02):
Yeah, exactly, and so everybody's judging him off of last
year instead of twenty twenty three, twenty twenty two, twenty
twenty one. He's playing like Dak. Prescott's exactly what I acpect,
exactly what I expected. But there's too many people out
there that don't know because they're not here, they don't
see it. And again it's the Cowboys. So all that
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factors in.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
And once again we talked about it yesterday, the running
game that we have, the architects of that running game
that we have. Now you talk about the guy's game
from Arizona, is that Yeah, Layton Adams.
Speaker 7 (08:41):
Coming in, don O'Reilly.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
I mean, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
You can see the difference in our entire offense. It
makes Dak look a lot more comfortable. Like I said,
it didn't have to make any miracle plays. He just
sit back there and allow the game plan to come
to him and shot. He's doing it just the way
he's supposed to be doing it. The timing is good.
The calls that he's making are timely calls, which makes
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Dak look better in the pocket.
Speaker 7 (09:07):
So yeah, I just think that you know, that's Dak Prescott. Yeah,
it's what I expected.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
Now you have a Dak Prescott with a running game
that's scary. Yeah, that's scary.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
So the MVP talks and the reason I'm saying to
live in the now of what's happening is because we
know that no one's going to give him credit for
where he is now. Everyone's extending this to the playoffs
that you've not even made it to yet to say
what his legacy as the Cowboys quarterback is going to be.
And I think, if I'm Dak, I'm saying the same
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thing to myself. I heard him actually say it in
a post game that look, I'm chasing not just the numbers,
I'm chasing the legacy of great quarterbacks that have come
before me, like the Starbucks, the Apemans to be able
to make it to an NFC Championship game, finally. But
when you have an offense that's clicking like this, and
yet we've been saying, God forbid this defense at any
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point wakes up, you're gonna have a team that is
going to be dangerous no matter where you go, because
when you go on the road, you take that running
game with me and it takes all the air out
of buildings when you go right. And so it's giving
Dak that comfort zone that we saw back in twenty sixteen.
And if you look at the numbers in some of
his most incredible years, which was twenty twenty three when
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he threw for forty five hundred yards, he's on pace
right now to definitely do better, you know, do better
than that. And so obviously health and all that is
included in everything that I'm saying. But if this team
and think about this Everson City, lamb in Bland and
nobody and I think we're not even talking about it.
(10:45):
Oh wow, we're not even talking about that. Your main
receiver is not playing. And that's the void that a
George Pickens takes up. That's also the void that a
Jake Ferguson takes up as well. So it's time to
give Jay. It's time to give Dak his flowers and
given to him early because he's on that path.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
I agree, I definitely agree.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
What say you, Bill, There's no doubt there is There
is no doubt. He's playing at an incredible.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
He says, its way to get.
Speaker 7 (11:13):
His career, his career numbers. He's right, he's ahead of
Troy Aikman in something.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
He's playing exactly the way I expected him to play.
Speaker 7 (11:22):
Yeah, he's right behind Tony Romo. So this is not
a surprise this year. This has been his career. He
just never got much credit for him. So it's not
a surprise to me.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
And and I once again, he doesn't even there were
times in the past where he had his entire arsenal
available to him, and this year he does not, And
he's playing extremely well in spite of that. And as
far as I'm concerned, this is exactly the way I
kind of figured things would go. I think what I
said in the beginning of the season, we're going to
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be looking at five hundred as we go into the stretch,
and that's going to be in November. And as far
as I'm concerned. I think our worst play playing days
are behind us. Defensively, that's the last to.
Speaker 7 (12:12):
Tell us that true since the Cowboys, And how many
times do you think this has happened? They've got the
number one offense and the number thirty second defense.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
Wow, still.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
There's a lot of that.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
I don't know if you go to answer that, where's
the lesson that happened?
Speaker 7 (12:30):
I've got well at five games into the season, whatever
it is. But that's the remarkable thing of being five
hundred right.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
The goal I think for this team should be let's
get ready for that stretch. Yes, you take one game
at a time leading up to that, but we know
that things are going to get so tight within the next.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Couple of three weeks that we're.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Going to have to be ready on on all levels.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
On all levels. We haven't even we haven't.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
We haven't used our special teams, uh magic as much
as we should right now. But I think once we
start playing into the season early on more into the season,
I think every aspect of our game has to be
clicking on the on the tolerant level, that'll be at
least tolerant level.
Speaker 7 (13:18):
Well, if you think about it, there's no more undefeated teams. Right,
so everybody's at least got one loss. Yep, if not
more so, they've got one less loss than the Cowboy.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
That's it looks good.
Speaker 7 (13:36):
You know what I wanted to do? Okay, you have
the standings there in my head. We'll do it at
the break. Where's what I wanted?
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Okay, I've got, I got, I got.
Speaker 7 (13:46):
Basically the six games in a row, yes, from Sunday
before thanks, Yes, until the last second to last game.
Those six teams. How many losses do they have combined?
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Well, okay, let's go through them here. It starts with Philadelphia.
They are four and one, okay, Kansas City is now
two and three, got three, Then you got Detroit and
the Lions are four and one.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Then is it to Minnesota, next Minnesota Chargers. Minnesota's three
and two. Chargers are three and two, and then Washington
is three and two. So six, seven, ten, eleven losses
amongst those sixteens, so.
Speaker 7 (14:28):
They're kind of mortal. We had all those teams going
to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 9 (14:32):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Basically there there combined nineteen and eleven that which is
a decent that's a tough stretch.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Yeah, but they're not as tough as it was at
the beginnings, though, right there's some losses.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
In there, unexpected losses from the other.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Well, okay, so Kansas City is a game out of
first place in the West. The Chargers and Broncos are
at three and two. They're at two and three. Okay,
the Lions are in first place in the NFC North. Okay, Yeah,
Minnesota is a game back at three and two. The
Chargers are in first place in the West. Who I
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missed in there, and then Washington is in second place
in the East, a game behind Philadelphia, so.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
They're a tie away.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
What I look at more than anything are the quarterbacks
on those teams and if healthy those quarterbacks. Okay, Hurts
is still healthy, Jaden Daniels is healthy, Golf is healthy,
My homes is healthy, Herbert's healthy, and in Minnesota you
get either WinCE or JJ McCarthy whatever.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
So yeah, at that point of the season, it's all
going to come down to that who's healthy.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
I mean, no, the Ravens right now there absolutely.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Where their defense is playing, uh, and part of that
is because of the injuries they have on defense too.
Mattabk a big one, and they played without their corner
and their safety Hamilton last week. And but you take
Lamarge accident out of the equation and you got Cooper
Rush totally different style.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
Well, you become mortal when you play without Lamar Jackson.
I mean, come on, you got an MVP.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Look at Derry. Henry goes fifteen Garis for thirty three
yards when he doesn't have.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
Why is that three quarter?
Speaker 6 (16:14):
Because now you got only one guy to concentrate on, which,
by the.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Way, looking at the film and looking at the all
twenty two they run defense for the Cowboys, I think
some of that, and I haven't been able to look
through the whole tape yet, but looking at it early on,
there was one play in particular early where Breis Hall
went for nine yards nine or ten yards on a
play and it was solely a product of It was
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like a zone read and the handed off to Haul
and Sanborn got out of position because he had to
respect the fact that Fields might keep it and so
he was just a step off and there was a
hole big enough. They got the block on Murray the
other linebacker. The center got the block there and they
got nine yards. So part of the undefense issues, I
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think that the Cowboys had in this game where there
was the run threat that the quarterback presented, even the
runs up the middle, because you had to respect the fact.
What if Fields pulls it out and takes off.
Speaker 7 (17:12):
So yeah, no, exactly, Well.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
You got to respect it. You got to respect And
that's the thing that you see with Baltimore as you
point that out, teams not having to respect it because
they're not worried about Cooper Rush running the ball. They're
worried about Henry running the ball.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Eric Murray, He's got to keep that center off of him.
He has to keep that center off of him. Because
you got good, good, good running defense. They have the
ability each man to beat his block, to get off
of his block, not necessarily be completely detached, but you
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want to make sure that you have him under control
on this side and you're free to make the tackle.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
With this side.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
We always get caught up in well, we're still fussing
with the blocker. He's gone. You don't have time. You
have to get off of the block in the Tommy fashion.
And they kept gashing us over and over again with
the same plate and the same.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
And whether it's getting off the block or reading and
being able to read the gun and look at where
you can evade that blocker before he gets on to
which was what Seawn Lee was so great.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
And that was all preparation, anticipation.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
That's right, read and react. Yeah, all right, just getting started.
I want to go into man, I've been looking at
that ninety yard drive late first quarter, early second quarter
and the different personnel that the Cowboys used on that
using lipke and the multiple tight ends as well. On
that drive. It was a clinic that Clayton Adams, Brian
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Schottenheimer and that coaching staff put together, especially considering what
the personnel they had on their offensive line. So we
come back here on mix shots in a moment.
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Speaker 3 (21:26):
All right, let's talk about what this offensive coaching staff
is doing, and especially considering what they had to work
with up front on their offensive line. With an inexperienced
left tackle, of course, you know, the only veteran that
had a lot of playing experience in the past. With
Terrence Steele at right tackle, you had a Chema Dynegy
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playing left guard, and you had of course Brockoffman at
center and TJ. Bassett right guard. And in particular I
just love that ninety yard thirteen played at the end
of the first quarter beginning of the second quarter. That
took off six ten of the clock started at your
own ten yard line. And the things that they did
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using different personnel groups on that drive. And one of
the things that I think was a key mickey you
can talk to this is the heat factor in that game.
And Okay, so who was the one guy that you
were really concerned with upfront on the Jets defending Quinn Williams?
And when you look at the snap count in that
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game on the season, I went back and looked at
Quinn Williams in that game. He had thirty five of
the sixty snaps, which is fifty eight percent of the snaps.
I think the heat played a factor in this game,
getting him off the field when you were able to
control the football like the Cowboys did in particular on
that particular drive he was on. Remember that that was
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the drive It started with him jumping the count and
jumping off sides. Okay, so that play out. Uh. He
was on the field for three plays to start that drive,
then he was off the field for three, on the
field for three and then off the field for the
final four plays of that drive. It was as if
the Cowboys coaching staff they figured out, okay, when Quinn
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is off, it was like they went with heavy personnel,
had Lipkey on the field, But it was when he
was off the field is when they went to remember
they had the screen passed to Lipke on a third
down play. It was well designed with Bergerson was out
as a lead blocker over.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
There and uh and that uh and that was done
first down.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Yeah, and that play. Actually Williams was still on the field.
He went off the field right after that play. Again,
but on those snapcounts the game before against Miami, Quinn
Williams and of course it's not cool in Miami, humidity
be up there. He was on the field for seventy
eight percent of the place fifty eight percent in this
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game and against Tampa Bay earlier this season, sixty seven
percent of the seventy seven percent. No, what I'm saying.
What I'm saying is though he was and he was
on the field so much, and Miami's offense was not
doing with the Cowboy with a ninety played a ninety
(24:26):
yard drive and a ninety five yard drive later, Cowboys
took advantage of when he was not on the field
with their some of their play calling and just the
the and that that was the drive to that culminated
in and it was with Lipke on the field, twenty
one personnel, and it was the screen pass to Ferguson.
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But the way that they manipulated the pass rush they
you saw on the Ferguson touchdown where the defensive end came,
it was it was like Ferguson checked him a little bit,
but let him go and Dak got rid of the
football on every time on a rollout very quickly to Ferguson.
It was all designed and I thought it was just
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a masterclass in no he was in coaching on that
entire drive.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
I mean, you call it six minutes, ten seconds, and
I think, for me, if you look at what schat
Nhammer did in that first half, the whole entire game,
but specifically in this drive, it was the balance and
the rhythm of the offense that kept those drives going.
And even when you got to a third down, I
don't think you ever worried about not picking up the
first down. And you were talking about the rotation, and
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I thought that was more of the success and shows
you the confidency has in these guys with Lipke withit,
Flenoy and the players that contributed on that drive, and
so I mean it.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
Really is a who's who when you go through.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
I mean Jayden Blue came in had a six yard
carry also, and.
Speaker 7 (25:49):
So he picked up a blitz too, by the.
Speaker 6 (25:51):
Way, Yeah, he sure did. I mean probably that was
the prerequisite to even get him get in a.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Jersey's Let's look at even the great years that that
Dak has had. There were times when our offensive productivity
was good, but sometimes our execution in crucial situations failed us.
I mean big games as well, to where we're like,
what the hell just happened there?
Speaker 5 (26:17):
You just don't see that now.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
When you talked about the rhythm, you know, I always
talked about that myself. There's a rhythm to the game.
There's a rhythm to each play, there's a count to
each play. The Cowboys offensively, not just Dak, but offensively,
everyone is on the same page.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
I remember last year Ferguson there were.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Times when we were depending on him to do a particular, committed,
particular task and he didn't quite have the timing of it.
And then throughout the entire timing of the entire play,
we have not seen that this year.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
You've seen Dak miss.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Some throws, which he always apologizes about. But for the
most part, we are in sync man to man down
the line. We are in sync on what everyone has
to do. On those plays that are somewhat deceptive, our
deception game is very good because the timing is there
between every player. There are times in the past, in
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the clutch on the road when we were just out there, like,
what the hell did we just doing? You know, I
haven't seen that this year.
Speaker 7 (27:22):
They picked up three They converted three third downs on
that drive, and I thought that, well, there was two
big ones, the slant pass to Pickens third and six
and then the third and one that looked like Williams
got stopped and ended up hit for two yards.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
And that was a quick snap too. Yeah it was,
and I think it. I think it was Hoffmann on
his home basically. No, it's surprised Dak with a snap.
He reacted great to it.
Speaker 9 (27:55):
But they.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
The left defensive end uh crashed hits Williams in the
backfield and Javante was able to get away from him.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
Man, Yeah, that.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Was that was gonna be a three yard loss. And
if not for Javante being able to shake him and
then he turned into a two yard game.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
So let's just look at these these plays now that
could have been disastrous. They were not disastrous because of
individuals who as a uh, we've been talking about those dogs.
Yeah you got, you got Javonte, He's a dog. You know, pickings.
I'm gonna catch this slant.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
I don't care who's guarding me, Sa sauce or no,
it don't matter. Sauce, no sauce. That's a goer.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Even if it was Lipkey. I mean, it wasn't guarantee
that Lipky was gonna get that first down. His running ability,
he knew where he had to get.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
He went for.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Yeah, right, yeah, he went for I mean you could
just see he could have his eyes on that first down.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
And so that's individual work. That's not team work.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
That's individuals taking upon themselves. Because I think there's a
belief in this offensive system, even though we've had Kellen
doing a good job, you know, but the balance that
we have with this system, it just seems to pull
everybody else in the same direction.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
If you go back and look at that driving what
the Cowboys had to do with ninety five Quinn Williams.
They were doubling him throughout every time he was in
the game. They were doubling him, yes, Lord, And then
he comes out of the game. It was on that
blue six yard run. He's out of the game and
the Cowboys go with twenty two personnel, they had two
tight ends, they had Lipkey in the game at fullback,
(29:34):
and they got six yards on that play. They got
him down. That was a first and ten play, and
it was two plays prior to the converting and getting
a touchdown to.
Speaker 7 (29:45):
Ferguson even threw a past the scootmaker for three yards.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
Yeah, this is a schoolmaker sighting. He actually looked a
little athletic. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
But if you dissect it, it was like the Cowboys
coaches had a plan to your point, they had a
play for when Quinn Williams, when ninety five's out of
the game, we're going with this package. And of course
you have to stay ahead of the chains on that
not have negative plays.
Speaker 6 (30:09):
So Bill, Bill, you accused me earlier of drinking the
kool aid, and that was the reason why, you know
this is that drive was the reason why. And I
know that we all have been bogged down by this
word culture, you know, And you were just talking about
those dogs and guys fighting for those extra yards that
you know, the guys that are staying locking step with
their quarterback stay because you never know. You said the
(30:31):
other day, Dak will throw it to anybody that's open.
He's not going to one particular guy. So what does
that do? It heightens your awareness to win your route
and also look for the ball because you don't know
when the ball is coming to you, you know. So
I think you know with Brian Schottenheimer, obviously yesterday we
gave his assistant coaches their flowers, and it should be
because the offensive line coach is doing a miraculous job.
(30:55):
But what Schottenheimer is doing, even after losses, even after
those you know, over times where a ton of points
have been scored, he's continuing to bring home the fact
that this team can get better. And you see it
weekend and week out, the improvements offensively. You were saying,
going back to last season where a guy you know,
look the sticks are right there, fight to get to
(31:17):
the sticks, and a guy run out of bounds or
not try and fight for the first down. That to
me is the difference when I'm watching this Cowboy team
from what I saw last season.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
And I think it's also too acquiring players who have
the mental makeup to be able to understand situational awareness
and guys.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
At this point, I'm really all of my points I'm
trying to make it goes towards the offense and its production.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
I still don't feel good about our defense.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
I won't feel comfortable until our defense can be at
just a little bit above average.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
Like maybe not give up four hundred yards a game.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
Maybe not, maybe not if we can do that, I
don't like.
Speaker 7 (32:04):
I don't like the right direction. There's the last.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
Forty eight hours, so there was three for a long time,
it was just three points right for a long time,
was six for six three. So I mean, you know,
I can give them love on that. I don't care
how bad the team is. You're playing a team at
home that's desperate and you still hold them the way
our defense did.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
I gotta say that we're stepping in that right direction.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
But there's a lot more to go to where we're
going to need not just a game plan. We're gonna
need the dogs to step up because there are gonna
be some games where Hey, our offense line getting a
bus kick today, There's gonna be some matchup problems as
we go out.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
Through the season.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
That's where you have to have the individual step up
now and make a difference in the game.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Okay, so when we come back, how about this? Who
are the dogs on that defense? You want to see?
Speaker 5 (32:56):
Step up? I got one.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
I got when we come back.
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Speaker 3 (35:29):
Okay, the Landry shift a response on Twitter myself, Oh
let's go around. He what's your what's your Twitter?
Speaker 6 (35:39):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (35:40):
Heckma underscore Harrison.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
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Speaker 5 (35:44):
Yeah, balls underscore at twenty four Okay.
Speaker 7 (35:47):
At SPAGS fifty two.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Okay, I'm CBS eleven, Bill Jones, So Gilman, I'm not
sure if it's Sid Gilman's heir or what. But hey, Bill,
why don't we do the shift whenever we have to
try on fourth and five or less? We might get
the defense to jump.
Speaker 5 (36:07):
I can see that. Okay.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Everson likes that idea.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
The only reason, the.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Only reason they didn't jump when we did it because
we did it all the time. But now if you break,
you put it in.
Speaker 7 (36:15):
And especially throw a fly, and you put it.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
In when we're on the road. It's fourth and one.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Everybody stands up there.
Speaker 6 (36:25):
Yeah, if they do it in the game. Guys, you
know where you heard it first, that's all.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
It's Gil on Twitter. All right, dogs on defense? Who
you got? What are you thinking? Ever since? You want
to start?
Speaker 5 (36:36):
Now? I don't go y you want to start? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (36:38):
I don't know why I overlooked this.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
And by the way, to set this up, if you
were just joining us ever since posed that last segment
said hey, we need some dogs to step up on defense,
like the dogs that are stepping up on offense.
Speaker 7 (36:56):
Well I saw dogs step up on defense, and I
was guilt of not realizing it till the next day.
Schamar James, Yeah, had seventeen tackles.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Wow, seventeen went up.
Speaker 7 (37:10):
When they went over it, they found two more and
I was like, where'd that come from? Well, here's what happened.
They they were getting him ready for packages in the game.
And I went back and looked and third play of
the game, the Cowboys had a six man front. He
was lined up right over the center guard. He was rushing.
(37:32):
He almost deflected the pass. The second time he was
in there. They did it again, right, and he's rushing,
so they're trying to take advantage of his athletic ability.
And then the third possession he was on the nickel
defense and then Sanborn gets hurt, so now they got
a shifting when Murray goes in the middle, Leo File
(37:55):
and James. He ended up playing like I think it
was seven seventy seventy three percent of the snaps, but
he had seventeen tackles as a rookie. That's the most
he's played defensively in the game. Because when he first
got a uniform on, it was basically special teams, and
(38:15):
then all of a sudden, Okay, you're going to play
these packages and then oh no, big boy, yeh you're in.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
He played sixty of the eighty two snaps.
Speaker 7 (38:23):
In the game, and they liked him. They traded up
for him yep in the draft.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Yeah. In fact, the way I understand it is, Okay,
who's the fifth round pick and Jayden Blue's fifth round pick.
So they took Blue first, and they were trying to
decide do we take the running back, we take the
linebacker at that point, and so they got the running
back Blue was available for him, and so then they decided, Okay,
let's go get the linebacker, and so they traded up
(38:50):
to just a few spots later.
Speaker 7 (38:53):
Was a Florida. Is that why he I.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Think it's more that he was just young, and you know,
even though he's been on the field, I don't think
I don't think there was an injury concern, but he
fell when years old in his draft ability.
Speaker 7 (39:06):
Yeah, so well I think we're going to see a
little bit more of it. Got to get him on
the field. And you know Leah foul too, so there
might be a shift in that linebacker.
Speaker 5 (39:18):
Cord I love it so my pederal.
Speaker 6 (39:21):
That's Spanish for dog getting you ready for bad bunny bis.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
Donovan as a rock.
Speaker 6 (39:30):
Now, No, don't you know you skipped, you skip, try
to get your turn.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
You gave it up, so you get to get.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Somebody.
Speaker 6 (39:42):
Yes, Donovan as a rockle For me, it's just look again,
when when the whole Parsons trade happened, you realize in
the defensive end edge Russia room you got you were
gonna need a guy to step up. Sam Williams, Dante Fowler,
guys like that. But your rookie is definitely showing you
his capability. What he's done is stopping to run and
you see how steady he is and not get it
(40:04):
set in the edge and things like that that I
think really drives the excitement for who he is as
a young player. And so you just you go the
games that you're talking about where your defense may be
called on to get a stop, get the ball back
to your offense. It's guys like that that I'm saying,
look better now than late, because you're gonna have to
(40:25):
have this defense, this defensive front step up in a
major way. We saw in this game just how much
difference getting pressure on the quarterback makes for the secondary.
You know that is the front supports the back. But
Donovan is a ROCKU for me a pleasant surprise. Love
the way that he's playing. He's not the He's not
the biggest guy in the world.
Speaker 7 (40:46):
He's like two forty something.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
Yeah, you know, I'm vertical.
Speaker 6 (40:51):
Yeah, I'm just not as it can when you talk
about guys like Sam Williams and how big those guys are.
Speaker 5 (40:57):
But he gets it done.
Speaker 6 (40:58):
I mean, great patt born with good pat leverage then
because of his height in his way, but just a
guy that's really good around the horn. I just want
to see him get more pressures, get to the quarterback more.
But what he's doing in the running game, I'm really
pleased with.
Speaker 7 (41:13):
Well, he came as advertised as a pass rusher because
of what he did at was a busting in college, right,
he had sixteen and a half sacks, So everybody's while
the sack.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
He plays the run, and he played the run in
college too. That's one of the reasons they like me.
Speaker 7 (41:28):
And he's almost the DeMarcus Lawrence exactly replacement because Lawrence
was best run defenders. He was on defense.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
Think about this twenty fourteen. Who the Cowboys draft in
twenty fourteen, DeMarcus Lawrence. They drafted in the first round
and offensive guard named Zach Martin, and then they drafted
in the second round DeMarcus Lawrence had a Boys. That
was Will mcclay's first draft, Will mcclay's first draft, and
then this one they went Tyler Booker in the first
round and they came back with Asako in the second round.
(41:57):
If they get the same kind of production out of
those that they got in two fourteen.
Speaker 7 (42:02):
Yeah, and no doubt, and don't forget Kneeland too. He
was playing well. Now he didn't play in this last game. Okay,
he had a I think it was a knee, but
he was playing well too at the defensive end spot.
And then all of a sudden, Dante Fowler like, hey,
I'm here. Where you been?
Speaker 5 (42:20):
Where have you been? Right? That's my question? But they
got he showed up. I ain't ever since I my guy,
my guy.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
When I when I when I critique players, it's only
because you know, I had the same thing happened to me. Dude,
you gotta do better. You know, someone had to come
to me when I was in college. May you got
you gotta do better. You can't do better. And then
I finally had to believe them to believed in me.
Donovan Wilson, that's my guy. He's got to play better.
He played better in this game, yes, and and I
(42:52):
have to we have to continue to see that. To me,
he was the main reason they were giving up all
these damn points early on. But I could see the
improvement that he's now conscious of that, thank god, because
as a safety, you can't be caught up doing whatever
the hell he was doing.
Speaker 5 (43:11):
But in this game, I thought that he showed awareness.
Speaker 4 (43:16):
We didn't give up really many big plays from the
passing game at all, and they have the ability to
do that, especially with Wilson gar wils with Wilson being
out there. So Donvin Wilson, he's got to turn into
that dog that he was. I believe that was two
years ago when he was just really showing just with
the lack of speed that he has.
Speaker 5 (43:37):
We know he doesn't.
Speaker 4 (43:38):
At that time, he didn't worry about what he didn't have.
He was making plays in spite of and that's what
players do. And I need to see him get back
to that guy. And I saw a little bit of
that in the game against the Jets. So he needs
to be that guy who comes through, handle the seams,
handle the middle of the field, come up and make
their plays in the running game. That's what he was
(44:00):
doing a couple of years ago. I got to see
that again.
Speaker 7 (44:02):
They cut down on their giving up big plays. Previous
when they list your ten longest plays, six of them
or seven of them would be past place. This time
just two two twenty five yards completions and then two
running plays for twenty at least twenty yards, So they
cut down on the big plays.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
He gave them enough double digit run place.
Speaker 8 (44:26):
Yeah, dog, you can't put that on my boy.
Speaker 5 (44:34):
No, no, no.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
I got. I got the corners though, getting healthy, Bland
and Digs, And if I think that will improve the defense,
and we show we are seeing signs of them getting
healthy and communication right and that I think that will
help because it will help Ebraflus being able to call
the defense if you can trust the corners can handle it.
Speaker 5 (44:56):
Did you guys think? Did you guys think?
Speaker 6 (44:58):
I mean, for me, I think with all the problems
that we've been outlining in the defense going into the
Green Bay game, when you saw Bland and Digs rotating,
I'm saying to myself, what the heck is going on?
And even with guys like Damon Clark being a healthy scratch,
you know what's going on. And I understand that it's
(45:21):
just ebra Flus trying to find the right rotation and
mix of guys. And you gotta applaud the front office
for being able to allow these coaches to do that,
because here you got one of your highest paid corners
out there, guy that you just signed to a big
contract as well, and you're rotating these guys any other team,
any other time, any previous for the Dallas Cowboys, if
(45:45):
these guys are healthy, they're on the field even if
they're not healthy enough to produce. And I think that's
a different spin on what you see going on this season,
where you know the coaches have more control over the personnel,
and I think that's a kudos to Jerry.
Speaker 4 (46:00):
I saw a good body language out there between the cornerbacks,
but really the entire secondary.
Speaker 7 (46:05):
Well, he was ready to play football that dig.
Speaker 5 (46:08):
Yes, it looks like it. His body language showed.
Speaker 7 (46:10):
It right, like he was a little confident.
Speaker 4 (46:12):
And they were talking back and forth when they were
coming out. They were much communication. There was no hey hey,
there was hey hey.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
October preseason's over. Yeah, and September preseason he needed.
Speaker 7 (46:24):
To pre se, not from a health standpoint, from playing football, right,
and he's getting there and he I think he had
a full week of practice too, so that helps. And
Bland same thing. Yeah, And you get those two guys
out there. And then there was times late where they
put Bland in the slot and put Elon in digs outside.
Speaker 3 (46:47):
We hardly have about that. We have some breaking. It
closed with this bit of breaking news, a quarterback trade
in the National Football A quarterback has just happened. The
Cincinnati Bank Goals have acquired quarterback Joe Flacco from the
Cleveland Browns along with a sixth round pick for a
(47:07):
fifth round. But that means that is the headline here
we one step brother Chador is now the backup quarterback
in Cleveland be dressed out behind Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 4 (47:22):
Yeah, but now I gotta say, Dylan gab was he
played well? I mean he did the guy they had
him in position to win the damn ball game.
Speaker 5 (47:30):
He did it.
Speaker 3 (47:31):
I'm telling you this isn't my Oklahoma had I have on. Yeah,
but I said this off season, the best quarterback in
that room is Dylan gabers Man.
Speaker 6 (47:42):
Dylan gave right, the best player in that room, best quarterback,
not the best quarterback in that room.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
Right now.
Speaker 5 (47:51):
Okay, as far.
Speaker 3 (47:53):
As being prepared to play this season, okay, that's not
a disc shoudoor at all. He's just he's just going
to need more time. Dylan Gabriel's got six years of
college experience, and he is functional and can a smart player.
You can do those sorts of long long range. It
could be somebody else meet me on the group chat later.
(48:16):
That's up right now. I would go with Dylan Gabriel, Okay.
Speaker 7 (48:21):
Guy that's ready to play football.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
That's right, all right. That does it for a Tuesday
edition of Mix Shots. You want to do this again
tomorrow at noon.
Speaker 5 (48:29):
I'll be here for that, all right.
Speaker 3 (48:30):
We'll see you tomorrow at noon, then Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
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