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Speaker 2 (01:27):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
All I got to say is wow.
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And damn wow. Yeah, and that's aay you you know
what it was in situation?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Isn't it first time in twenty years that the Cowboys
hosted the New York Football Giants that they hosted the
New York Football Giants in a non nationally televised game,
and I think there are TV network executives that are
ruining the day they made the decision not to show
that game either. At three twenty five, the.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Most exciting noon game are.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
They're getting are They're getting fired?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
That's the most exciting new game in the history of
the NFL.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Okay, so where do we start on this one? We
starting the wind column yaumber one?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah, but where do we start our conversation? That's what
I want to know. Come on, I mean, I love
this game, but boy, we have to work too hard.
Why do we make it so hard on ourselves? Can
somebody tell me that that's did we bring Evil Flus
in here? So we could kind of cause, you know,
tone things down a little bit.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Because this is America's TV team, it's reality television.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
It was a setup. Yeah, setup, that's what it was. Setup.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
It was one in a thousand.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
I don't think I've seen.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Always a probability. Do you see what the probability was
with twenty five seconds left that the Cowboys are going
to win this?
Speaker 4 (02:53):
I'm probably three percent.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Point zero three percent.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
I don't think I've seen a game where the All
Boys won it so many times and lost it so
many times and tied it one time and still won
the game.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I was tired for them when it went into overtone,
we got some more football to play. I was tired
for them.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
And they were tired too. That's why both teams are
so tired and overtime that it took three possessions, which
is such a rarity in a ten minute over time.
It never happened something, that's right.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
The weird thing to me was just the abysmal first
quarter defensively. I thought that was probably as bad as
this gotten one quarter. First quarter, that first quarter, now,
I'm just saying the first one. I was watching that
first quarter, it was like, oh my god. I mean,
we couldn't have gotten off to a worst start, but the.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Giants, the guy that got off to the worst start was.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I think he had a I.
Speaker 6 (03:47):
Think he had a bad enough on Sunday, you know
how bad he was.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
But just I mean, he imploded. He imploded in front
of my eyes.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
I mean, it's the biggest meltdown in football that anybody's
ever witness and this it provided us all to the
laughter and entertainment that we needed.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
But the worst part was the day Ball said get
him on it here, and they didn't.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
They let somebody, somebody be told that though somebody.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Must offense some line coach, Well, I was.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I was coming from a tailgate, so I was listening
to it, and boy, Brad was killing him. You know,
like that needs he needs some time. He just needs
some time. Just let him go sit and just take
him out of the game and just give him a minute.
That's the way Brad.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
It was like Chazz Green ten years later.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Jazz Green, to his credit, No, I can't even give
him credit never. I'm not gonna even do that.
Speaker 6 (04:41):
Chassh Green was just in that Atlanta game. I guess
this is what you're talking about. But that was that
was bad. That first quarter. I was like, man, we
are we are blessed than Holly Favor to only be
down by six points in this first quarter. It should
have been fourteen fourteen zero in the first quarter.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
And they traded.
Speaker 6 (04:59):
And we talked about that last week about them being
able to drive the field but not finish in the
red zone, and they did that against US twice, which
I thought was okay, maybe maybe you know, offensively, we
just need to get on because offense didn't do it
do themselves any favors either.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
They came in three and out.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
I mean it was ugly, but then you started to see,
like I'm gonna say, halftime. You know, they scored ten
points in the second quarter. But man, after half, it
was like Dak in that offense started to pick up.
We talk about Williams the running back. Look, this is
this is now I'm gonna when I look at this, Craig,
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when I look at this, when I look at the stats,
I never want to go to a stat sheet where
Dak has thrown the ball fifty two times.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
If he throws the ball fifty two times, comes out injured.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
But at the same time, I got to give it
up to Shoddy for continuing to run the ball. It
wasn't like it was just air raid air rate. He
mixed it in. Even in overtime, he still continued to
run the ball. So, man, that was a change. And
just to see again, uh, Javonte Williams work. I love
the way that him and Miles Sanders worked off of
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each I loved it.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
You can't you can't offensively be disappointed, and pretty much
anything that you saw yesterday. I hate the injury happened
to bb and all right, yeah, that's something that we're
gonna happen out for a while. It's gonna be something
we have to deal with for left in. Yeah, and
as soon as soon as we get under center, we
we fumble a snap.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
And by the way, the breaking news on that this
morning is that it reportedly it looks like a high
ankle spring six to eight weeks on.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Cooper be hate high ankle springs, man, But but you know,
when you when you have to overcome something like that,
you gotta look at the other side of the ball.
You gotta look at the the ball. I gotta come on,
come on. I have been victim victimized, especially as a
rookie by you know, a lot of d passes. But damn,
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I'm getting mine. I'm gonna get nigh. You know, you
might give me, but I'm getting mine.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
They finally got.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Was a pun I would come away with a night.
I'm coming away with I'm coming away with two a night,
especially my rookie year. I mean every Monday night football.
So I'm coming away with two. You got me, but
I'm coming away with two.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
It was your guy Doughtervan Wilson, who finally got to
pick thist.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
My god, my god, guys, remember that, ain't my guy?
It with something? Man, I'm leaving.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Can you go out there and right now?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yes? No, I can play better than I can teach
them that. I mean this guy. All you gotta do
is is be deep. Never let anyone get deeper than you.
A job that you have. One job is to stay
deeper than everyone else on the field. Why are you backpedaling?
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I don't know. When Neighbors and Robinson are hauling ass
down the field and you're trying to show me that
you have a nice backpedal, it's too late for that.
The technique is bad. You could see that it was exposed.
I coached some kids all summer with this group that
I deal with, and we go all around the country
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and they lovingly called me the dB whisper because if
nothing else, I will give a kid priorities. Your priority
as a defensive back is never get beat deep. Period.
That's going to change the entire ball game. I don't
know they what technique they were teaching these guys this week,
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but everyone needs to understand you have to start when
Russell Wilson or any quarterback is throwing like that. Let's
all start from the goal line and work our way up,
because that's the only way you're going to stop somebody
if you don't have the ability technique wise to stay deep.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
And by the way, again, it's the quarterback that he
has his critics. But there is one thing that everybody
in this building and outside this building, to a man
said about him is that this guy can throw the
deep ball.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
How old are those those young men that you're you're
training high school? High school? High school? So so high
school kids ain't listen. Middle school kids, no way, That's what.
That's why they called me the whisper, because every kid
gets better because they listen. Somebody ain't listening.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
But middle school kids, you know, and cover too, and
cover too, you know. Hey, As a safety, my responsibility
is to be deeper than the deepest. And even if
I give up something underneath, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I did. I could live with that because I was
deeper than the deepest. That's what.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
And a lot of people today are questioning I refluse
in the scheme and saying, oh, these guys just don't understand,
you know, zone And to me.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
It's like, man, you've been playing zone your whole life.
To tell you to understand zone. I mean, you know
that in high school and college. Now you don't know
zone all of a sudden when you get to the
pros and this man is toasting us up and down
the field, why just let's just okay, let's just tip
the things a little bit. It's also situational football. This
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is just situational football as well. We knew what position
we were in. There's certain things that are cardinal sins, right,
don't do this when this happens. All we got to
do is stopping was going a freaking testdown man, in
like thirty something seconds. That's all we're trying to do.
We're not trying to talk about field goal, right, We're
talking about the.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Testdown a four point lead, four point lead, come on, man, forty.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Even if you call a technique, trust me. I learned
from the Phoenix game, all right. I learned from the
Phoenix game with me and Jimmy Johnson. I don't care
what they call it. If they call for you to
be underneath, damn it, don't be underneath because we know
the situation is if the defensive call is not good enough.
You as a player, you better recognize forget covering the
cloud and cover two, cloud and cover two with thirty
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something seconds left in the game, everyone's the It should
be a Cover four. That's what it should be. I
don't know what they were calling or what they were playing.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
What do you think the Giants were playing when they
were able to hit Ferguson over the middle at the
fifty yard line?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Now, see, if we were talking about giving up a
field goal for a tie, that's one thing. But we're
talking about a touchdown you can't.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Give Well, did you see the one where they motioned
a So I'm looking at the Cowboy defense, looking at
their offense. They motioned a receiver to the left, and
Diggs is standing there going like this like we're out manned.
They got three over here, there's only two of us. Ye,
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we need some help.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Time out. And then.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
They sort of they took the guy in the slot.
He was covered.
Speaker 7 (11:58):
Diggs.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
This guy he just let him.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Run right by him, just run right.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Do they know how have they been taught how to
play the defense. It seemed as if as Diggs was
running down the field, he's got his hands out like
whe are we doing or yeah, somebody else, somebody you
know safety And he think he wasn't demonstrative at all
now like most people are when they try to call
somebody out. He was seen to be totally confused on
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how to play the defense.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Yeah you're I think you're talking about the Onondale Robinson touchdown.
Yes yard And before snap, you could see Hooker comes
over to the slot and he's looking back towards there
was confusion. He's looking back toward Donovan Wilson, who's the
deep safety and that and on that play, then Hooker
ran with the slot on the wheel and so now
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it's digs and it's Donovan Wilson who and then Wandlle
Robinson just runs.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Up and he didn't get around.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
You know. You know we learned in Phoenix. You can't
have two safeties covering four nines. Got it. You can't
have two safeties covering four nines unless you get your depth.
That's the only way you're going to have a chance
to do it. There's also something that the Houston Oilers
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learned on the comeback with Buffalo Bills. You can't go
three deep as well with four nines. The safety in
the middle is always going to be under duress. You
understand now they ran the wheel route to put the
cornerback under duress because now he's having to play between
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two receivers that have just crossed each other are still
going nines. You gotta play cover four. You gotta play
cover four. They're going all nines. You're putting your DBS
under stress. The reason you're putting under the stress is
because number one, what I learned in New York, you
gotta put hands on the slot receivers free release you
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you cannot have a free release. They're just running down
the field untouched. And the timing is there. So now
Russ has do one two three boom. Now if you
touch that receiver and deviate him a bit, now Russ
is going one two three. Uh no, wait not you
see what I'm saying. The timing isn't there. I know
eva Flus knows this. I know he does. That's why
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he's a good defensive back coach. That's why he's a
defensive coordinator. So I don't know what philosophy or technique
was missed in regards to this.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
There's the other part of that or a busted coverage.
Speaker 7 (14:37):
But here.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I mean technique that okay, regards we.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Try to figure this out. There's the other part of
this situational awareness. It was a fourth and four play, okay,
show is it on the Defensi's mind that they just
need four yards? And does that confuse anything?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
No? No?
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Yeah, Well, and they're playing and the Giants are playing
to the strength of their quarterback, which we talked about.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
He throws a deep ball better than any.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
You can't be naive about that, right you see, as
you call, as you make the defensive calls, and as
you play out on the field, you can't be You
have to be cognizant of that. It's not just oh,
I'll call the defense play. I learned that that ain't
what it is. That's that won't That won't get you
any favors. It won't win you any ball games sometimes
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as a team. And we talked about this also last week.
You gotta know what they're trying to do. That was
pretty simple what they were trying to do. They're going
all nines every time, pretty simple. They didn't hide it,
there was no deviation. Every time they got close. I
told I was telling my son on the fifty yard
line they're gonna go deep, because what NFL teams do.
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When you're on the fifty yard line, you're gonna try it.
You might as well you already in position. That's the
cardinal rule for NFL football.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
It's like, it's like playing street football. Run as fast
as you can to the chevy down on the corner.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
And the DBN. I'll throw it and the dB better
be sitting in that chabby.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
It's like, it's like what Greg ols what Greg Olsen
on the Fox broadcast was saying throughout the game about
going forward on fourth down. Uh, you know, and whenever
there was a third and five or third and sixth situation,
you got two plays. Like in the red zone, you
got two plays to get the first down. Because he
was referring to the new kickoff situation and basically, you know,
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the ball comes out the thirty five teams are already
in field going and the way teams are kicking, field
goes whatever.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
But it's the same situation. You can take it to this.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Once you get past midfield, go for the touchdown because
you're already ever, all these kickers can kick it from fifty.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
But I think everybody knew that Russell was going to
go for it, and no one question that. Even fifty
two seconds left and the only thing that down by four,
they need a score. And I'm looking at the front
and I'm like, okay, we're still rushing five and four.
You know, I'm thinking, hey, rush three, drop everybody, you know,
as much as you can't, because you know what they need.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
They're down four.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Exactly, so you know, I.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
Still at that point, I think everybody's still saying, all right,
well can you get any pressure on the quarterback? And
they're gonna max protect in the situation like that, and
they blocked it up beautifully. And even in that situation
we were talking about last week from Philadelphia, how Jalen
Hurst was able to evade pressure, get out of the
pocket and find the receiver down the field, he was
doing the same thing.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I mean, Russell Russell.
Speaker 6 (17:27):
As much as we talked about him last week, diminishing
and all of that, man, he turned the clock all
the way back, man and made some halatious throws.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
When you're five to nine, ten, whatever he is, Why
don't we rush up the middle. Why aren't we rushing
up the middle? Russell? We have the rush is going,
they're giving him a pocket, sometimes a small pocket, but
a pocket for him to do what he does best,
which is throw that damn thing down the field. Why
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didn't we send middle pressure.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
That's the only way they got the sack. That's what
happened to mark up the middle, up the middle.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Why why are we giving him that by the design
of the defense, Yes to the second, the defensive end. Yeah,
we know he's gonna be but the giving him a
pocket to throw and do what he does best. And
he did it over and over again in the fourth quarter,
even on runs he made even on the run. On
the run he made you know, that was blessed to
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be able to get that. Yes, but man, we were
supposed to and he's five nine. You can't.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Despite all that, they could only score thirty seven points.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
It took, and it took.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
It took a costly mistake though by Russ at the
end in overtime.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
That was that was his fault, you mean the block, none.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Interception, Yeah, but he was guess who got to him finally,
my man, Sam Williams, Oh that was.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Sam, Sorry, but I mean that was you know, I
didn't think that was a fault on Russ. I thought
there was a just a good play, yeah, yeah, he
to me.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
For me, I was like, man, you've played a damn
near perfect game up until this point. You are slicing
and dicing, and that one interception cost him. I mean
in overtime, to say the least. He could have did
that in regular, in the in the you know, during
the regular, we.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Could have done that in the regular.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
No, no, no, no, I agree, But then you throw this
hell mary up you know, one day else down there somewhere,
I'm just gonna tuck.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
It, you know, But then everything else worked? Why not?
You know what? Why not?
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Here's the worst part. The new guy in the secondary. Ready,
I thought he played well twenty seven. Yeah, I didn't
see him bust. It was the guys you were counting on, right.
Does this give you pause on kyir Elam?
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yes? I think.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Do you think dig ready to play football?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I don't think Diggs is ready to play if nothing else,
he doesn't know the defense or somebody doesn't know the defense.
You know, I thought with Diggs seeing him get beat
off the line of scrimmage, uh, not the not the
busted play, but early yeah, yeah, the one. That's what
I'm talking about. When neighbors took him, shook him, and
went he didn't look good at all. Yeah, he didn't
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look good at all. Trying to catch up with him on.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
That and it wasn't And I don't think it was
from a physical standpoint. I don't think he understood.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
No, no, this this was straight up man. The man
that I'm talking about. Yeah, he knew what he was doing.
Then he could not. I think that was a physical
The other ones, the own routes and all of that
to see the deep routes. That's something that I think
that they got to get together between themselves. But when
he was trying to he had them all by himself.
Man to man, he shook him. That neighbors shook him
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down and caught the fade over the over the top.
I need that looked physically. I just that looks for
neighbors is gonna do that.
Speaker 6 (21:02):
Elite neighbors is gonna do that to everybody, not just
not just trayvon On dis He is like Apex on
his way to being top five in the league as
far as a wide receiver. And I think the blown
coverages was one thing when when people evaluate Diggs and
they have to come back to see how many of
those eras it was on the other side for Kyrie Elam,
it just looked at like at a certain point in
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the game, like you got to get this guy some help,
you know, no matter, you got to get him some help.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
They tried to, but his help was not good. I
was out there, Yeah he's backpedaling and he should be
turning in harling, but and trying to meet this guy
at the ball is no way he Wilson should have
been behind Kye and I believe that was neighbors when
he caught the touchdown. There's no way Wilson should have
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been trailing. He should have been over the top or
definitely side to side as they you know, they sandwich
him in between.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
Does it bother you when you're watching football, see cornerbacks play,
our safeties play selfish when you know they're supposed to
be in their zone and their guests work and trying
to go pick off a guy and they end up
letting the ball go over the top of the head.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
They made that point one time. Donovan Wilson should not
be jumping tight ends coming down the scenes. He did that,
You're not I don't know what that's all about.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
They also had another one shot was explaining it. They
were supposed to the linebacker was supposed to carry the
guy downfield underneath to make sure the pass over, and
they didn't do it.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
It wouldn't matter.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
But it's a temple two because the safeties.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
The safety has got to be there. He's supposed to
have the ball deviate, but safety still got to be there.
They will still know where to be found. I'm back
around with him or not, that won't make a different.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
The ball bucket.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
So, having said that, is there anything the Cowboys did
right on Sunday when we come back here?
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Will?
Speaker 5 (22:54):
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Speaker 6 (25:27):
Yes, I want to talk my eighteen year old into
going to that. I used to take him to that
when he was a kid. Now he's too big for it,
but man, we used to have a great time in
Monster Jam.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Confirmation from Stephen Jones on one O five to three
The Fan a six to eight week timetable for Cooper
Bebie's return from Sunday's ankle injuries. Quote from Stephen. We're
hoping it's on the shorter end of that, but there's
probably a pretty good chance that he'll end up on
injured reserve. All right, we allude to our picks from Friday.
(26:02):
Everson made his picks even though he wasn't here on
a fight song Friday and Eversince says he won. Although
you did say Gavante Williams would score two touchdowns in
a twenty four to ten Cowboys win. So you were
half right, half right on that. Hekma had a Cowboys
twenty six thirteen win, Cavante Turpin with a touchdown, so
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ding ding ding, you get Cavante Turpin's touchdown. Mickey had
a thirty to seventeen Cowboys win. Sam Williams with a sack.
Are you counting his pressure on the interception to be sack?
Speaker 7 (26:42):
Luke?
Speaker 4 (26:43):
It turned the game. It turned the game around again.
It was only thirty points.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
Right, and.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
The clear winner for this week was yours, truly predicting
the Boys would score forty points. I had it ever
since I had it forty to seventeen.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
You had the seven right, I had the forty right, yeah,
but you had the CD. You didn't get the CD.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Right and CD. I had CD three three touchdowns, but
CD no hewed out.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
So he did.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Nobody picked the lead of the game.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Oh the kicker, thank you?
Speaker 5 (27:29):
Yes, I thought he was off limits. Since he's now we.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Did it's off limits. He's now.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
He's the new part of you know what he is
at at and T Stadium in his career now on field.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Goals, I don't think he's missed maybe two.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
He's missed one. Okay, that's right. He's forty nine out
of fifty. The one that he missed hit the upright
against Houston, whatever that was.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
It is insane, I mean, and from sixty four insane.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
It was good from seventy yeah, that's what they say.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Well, you know when the Cowboys had the ball at
the thirty, the headed at their own thirty eight in overtime.
I did the math and was thinking.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
Okay, can make it from eighty It would have been
eighty then.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
So here when they were setting up for sixty four
during the pregame warmups, I was watching him and he
made every kick going that direction, and the last one
he tries is from fifty eight. From fifty eight, it
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hit the net almost three quarters of the way up.
And I'm sitting there, going, he's good from seventy like
in this game if all's equal. So when he gets
to sixty four, I'm going, okay, he's got the distance.
Now do you have the nerve and the concentration to
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hit a game winner with the clock running out? And
he crushed it right, And then you come back again
again and it's forty six and it was like a
chip shot. That's unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
They had so much confidence in him that with a
timeout with nine seconds left, they decided, Uh, we don't
really need that much more yardage. We'll just hand it
off to Javonte and get three. And he fell down
because did.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
He fall or did he go down on us? Like
he was worried about stock.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Well, I assume wondering, does Brandon have a preference on
which I mean the hash marks are so close together,
but I have a preference. So he was getting it
to whatever side of the field that Brandon wanted it
to be on for.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
His But but Williams, he could have gone at least
another three or four yards.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Now he did have time on his mind, he did, sure,
And you don't want to get you don't want to
get into a situation where you get held up by
and we've done that defender and time issues right where
the clock runs out on you.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
I mean, have you ever gone on the field sixty
four yards away right and looked at them uprights all
of a sudden they get going like this, It gets
so narrow and he just hit it right, both of them.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
And I gotta tell you, I don't think any of
the Cowboys will worried.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
No, they were playing for it. I don't think Schottenheimer
knew the line they needed to get was basically so
it was a seventy yarder and then for the forty
six it was just get close enough and don't leave
any time on the clock. And people are shouting his
name in the stadium as he's going up to like attempties,
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and it's like read quiet.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Any team.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
I don't think any kicker has been dependent on as
much as he has Vini, But not from that. Yeah,
but I'm saying when games, when games, that's why I say,
that's what makes him stand out. It's the distance. Yes,
great kickers, we've seen joshin Tucker RT Justin Tucker. That's
why I was headed. He was used kind of in
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that manner. But they didn't they didn't plan on it.
He's part of our game plan, you know, he's part
of a success in our game plan. We look forward
to that. They depend on it. If he misses, then
everyone is shocked that he misses. When you have that
kind of reputation, that's MVP.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Yes, I asked because Dak was finishing in the press conference.
He was walking off, and I asked him, I said,
do you think uh defenses will play you guys differently,
knowing the threat he is from whatever distance. If they're not,
they will, they will they better because they're going to
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realize that sixty yards out this guy's money.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
So that imaginary red line that everybody say, yeah, they'll
tell you thirty five, So they'll start playing to the sticks.
It's playing to the sticks. You're playing to that line,
and hey, what that bodes well for your offense because
now you're playing that line, then we're going over the top.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
It's not like it's going to be on the thirty
five anymore. It's going to be on that forty five.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
That they can play. They can play it. They can
put the cap on there, but we're gonna take the
cap off.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
So ever soon you're saying that you want to enter
Brandon Aubrey's name into the NFL MVP conversation after Week two?
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Definitely the Cowboys MVP.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
How about the NFL MV and it has the has
the as a kicker ever won the NFL MVP award.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
I don't know the history that Mark Moseley.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Mark Moseley for Washington in the nineteen eighty two strike
shortened season, made twenty of his twenty one fie field
goal attempts and he was the NFL MVP nineteen eighty two.
No way, that was in the strike shortened season. Yep,
oh there you go.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
So we are especially entering Brandon Aubrey into them.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Can he be the NFC Defense Special Teams Player of
the Week, Yes, that's right.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah, night, but he said, take off the special teams
and just put him up there player of players, right, take.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
Off the special team. That is amazing. Sixty four yards
used to be. Man, ain't no way in hell you're
make they haven't get close to the MVP.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Oh no, there's no way I say that.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
I just not not yet.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
And by the way, the games tonight there's only one
NFC team playing. Tampa Bay plays at Houston tonight and
the other the late game is the Chargers and the Raiders.
So I'm going to go out on a limb and
say that Aubrey has went, has won the NFC Special
Teams Player of the Week one.
Speaker 7 (33:44):
You know.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
The other thing about it though, all credit to Brandon Aubrey,
but this offense still had to perform. Just get him
in position and come through in the clutch to get
him in position for those clutch fans.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
And Dak did it twice.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
And can we talk about George Pickens. I was going
and we do that.
Speaker 6 (34:05):
I mean, because you know, I'm just for once when
when you have a team that is everybody seems like
we're gonna double team CD on the outside and he
still is gonna get his But George Pickens showed you.
I mean, even on those plays where the ball went
other places, you're looking at three running wide open, force
feed this guy and down on the end zone on
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that throw that Dak made a way into. Come on, man,
it's like this guy, his athleticism, body, all the things
that he and body has a wide man.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
To me, it's a it's a short, it's a You
don't have to go far. You can go out and
look at one of these jerseys right out here in front.
He reminds me of Bryant. He reminds me of Daz Bryant. Wow,
I am going to catch this ball. You are not.
I am going to catch this ball and you are not.
How hard you try to touch down?
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Wasn't easy, right, he had no room to spare right
in the past.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Was unli DBS still looking at h dB looks back
that goes the ball and and but but if you
see I think I texted you guys when he was
out of bounds, and boy, the Giants, man, they're just
out there playing street ball. You're just grabbing people and
tugging them. The obvious p I s and one obvious PI.
(35:24):
When Pickings was trying to break away from him and
he had nothing to do with the game. But as
he leaned back to catch that ball, he caught it.
He caught Yes, And I texted you guys, like he
caught that ball, he was out of bounds. But he
knows he's out of bounds. He still makes this great catch,
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one handed catch.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
I just think that the comp that comp with des
is is one when I when I does athletically freak athletically.
I just his length to me and his ability hands
and when he gets his body like it's like he's posting, posting. Guys,
there's no way you get to him. You can't get
to that ball. His physicality is like it's unmatching. And
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once him and Dak, and Dak said it in the
interview post game, like we got to get better him
and his timing with with George Once, once you hit
on that and it starts, and it's starting, you're starting
to see it, especially on those past interferences because the
ball some of those are late and if you just
dropped that thing, I mean he's walking into the end
zone on a few of those well.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
And and then the slant that take.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Did that take blame for that because he did he.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Was sure done.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
Yeah, the slants, they can't cover him one on Schottenheimer
said it in training camp. He said, if they want
to cover him one on man, he's open, just assume
he's open. And that slant that he took on the run,
it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
I thought one of the bigger plays was CD going
up and catching that ball over double team.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
There was a third and four, the third and from
the Cowboys line down twenty supposed to get okay with him? Okay,
this was fourth quarter, Cowboys take over with twelve minutes left,
and they're facing basically unless they convert on this third
and four, it's a three and out and the Giant.
And you haven't stopped the Giants all day. And in fact,
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I think Olsen on the TV broadcast before the snap said,
you got to go to CD here. I don't care
if he's triple covered. You got to go to your guy.
And they did, and and exactly played out just one.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
I mean, the dB was underneath as he could.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
There's the play. I circled it and put it two
stars next to that play like this is the play.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Perfect path of the game, perfect catch. They were in,
they were in Unison, He knew where it was going
to be.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
He just said that was the play of the game.
Little did he know.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
Yeah, and we all thought it was the play of
the game at that point.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Wait, little did we know.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
There were eight more plays.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
Cowboys come out, Cowboys went up twenty seven, twenty three,
with six fourteen to go.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
We got them, We got him when we won.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
That was another case where I said the Cowboys won
the game about three times. That was one of them.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
And by the way, right after that, then they went
to c d again for twenty three and that drive
culminated in Miles Sanders touchdown.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Which was a pretty sweet run.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yeah, he made up. He made up for the fumble
in the room.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
It was only four yards, which, by the way, Williams
touchdown run thirty yards. It's the longest touchdown run by
a Cowboys since the twenty twenty two season. Tony Pollard
went thirty yards against Indianapolis. Yeah, that was the longest
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touchdown run. He had two more that year fifty four.
I think it was in fifty seven, but since then,
they hadn't had a thirty yard touchdown run since Pollock.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
And I was looking at that offensive line, just the
youth that I saw against on that offensive line. I
remember talking to my son. I said, man, these guys here,
they are young, but they are good. As soon as
I said that, that's when the touchdown camell.
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Speaker 3 (42:04):
Other injury news around the league on this a day
after Monday. With the Cowboys headed to Chicago to play
the Bears this week, the Bears Pro Bowl cornerback Jalen
Johnson out indefinitely with a growing injury. Johnson missed their
opener and played twenty snaps yesterday in what was a
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fifty two to twenty one loss to the Detroit Lions
as Dan Campbell's team got.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Back on track. That does not make me feel better,
because we will play down to our competition.
Speaker 4 (42:34):
Well, somebody said the Bears are four and a half
point favorites.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
I believe it.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
I don't know what the line is, but I heard
that they are favorites.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
I believe it. That's crazy. Okay, all right, we'll take
that on them for Monday Final.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
A couple of minutes, heer of mix shots and we're
going to call this segment, and we'll probably do this
every day. What's on Mickey's legal pack.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
A lot of circles, a lot of different there, a
lot of black.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
And hey, how about this one? So Aubrey hit four
field goals a total of two hundred and five yards
of field goals.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Good?
Speaker 4 (43:18):
What do you think about that? I think that's a record?
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Bad?
Speaker 3 (43:22):
Who can do the quick map on that?
Speaker 4 (43:23):
Sixt sixty four forty six fifth.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
That's an average of fifty one point twenty five yards
of field goal.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
It's the Oklahoma man quick.
Speaker 5 (43:32):
Hey, when you're putting half a hundred on people, you
know how to get to half a hundred?
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Were you?
Speaker 4 (43:41):
I thought they only hit forty two?
Speaker 3 (43:43):
I'm talking about. That was a call out to Switcher.
I know the great days because you know when we
used to win national championships. You know Missouri put a
half a hundred hour on Savannah State Louisiana. All right, well, else,
he's on your legal path.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
That was good. Look that.
Speaker 4 (44:02):
I gave you the Williams one.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
Okay, if you're too slow, we're going to go to
hecma's computer or what's on his computer?
Speaker 2 (44:08):
What you got? I got linebackers playing better? That wasn't
even in the computer.
Speaker 6 (44:12):
But my man Murray, we talked about Oklahoma, but I
got linebackers played better. I mean, I think you got
to be better in coverage, as you were just talking
about before. But after the Philly game, that was what
you were asking. Sam Born and Murray played a hell
of a lot better in this game.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
I was disappointed in the d line obviously.
Speaker 4 (44:34):
Really they stopped the run.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
But you want that pressure up the middle, you gotta
have it, I thought.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
I'm just surprised that the coaches didn't send pressure up
the middle at all. You got a short quarterback, it's
the thing to do. It's just what you do. These
are things that it's just that's coach.
Speaker 4 (44:51):
Do you want to blitz?
Speaker 2 (44:53):
No, No, you could. You could blitz if you wanted to, But.
Speaker 4 (44:55):
You want your defense.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
I want them to understand what he's trying to do
as he backs up into that pocket, just like Jalen
hurt is waiting on you to give him. M crevis
so is a quarterback like Russell Wilson, not necessarily to run,
but just give himself a chance. They just open. It's
like Moses dividing the Red Sea. They're just opening up
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for him, and he has a clear view down the field.
Every depascit he throws.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
Well, I got one guy in that defensive line that
Herves's shout out, and that's Solomon Thomas. Yes, but yeah,
he had like step seven taxicles and how many reps?
Twenty seven snaps? I think something like that.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
He had more than that?
Speaker 3 (45:37):
Did he hang on?
Speaker 6 (45:38):
But I mean I don't know if he had that.
I mean he was clutch, you know, he was clutch.
He stopped the running, he was a part of it.
Speaker 4 (45:44):
Twenty eight snaps.
Speaker 6 (45:49):
But that's a damn good job. I mean, if you're
gonna call somebody out and say they did a good job.
And also, Clark man, he's still coming along. You're starting
to see you know, look, he may not be that
guy that she's gonna blow things up up and get,
but he is ab he does.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
I mean, he flashes. He flashes, and that's snaps. That's
and that's what we needed.
Speaker 6 (46:07):
I Mean, Mozzie was enacted for a second week and
I'm just saying there's something something different happening with his
defensive line.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
I can't believe Mab he didn't bring this up on
his legal pad, But there is smilar thing. There is
one other thing that we need to close out the
show with. There was some news that was made after
the yesterday Jadavian Clowney is going to be a Dallas Cowboy.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
What time was that call me, Jerry John? Was it
about the second quarter? By the end of the game
he announced it. By the end of the game he
got clowny.
Speaker 4 (46:41):
Probably when they decided to start Jamie Houston at defensive end.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
He did a pretty good job.
Speaker 4 (46:47):
He did, yeah, that one series, and then he disappeared
and they didn't hardly play him after that.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
He played. How many snaps did he get? He got
fifteen snaps in the game.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
I saw him.
Speaker 4 (46:58):
They probably were all on there first drive that went
eight minutes.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
He did a good I thought he did a decent job.
I thought he came up and made some good tackles.
He made two plays, two plays, Yeah, out of fifteen snaps.
Speaker 4 (47:12):
I don't know Dante Fowler reason he only got fifteen.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
Snaps I saw. I saw one time. They were what
was the run up the middle, right up the middle,
and you had everybody running around their blocks, and he
was one of those guys while the defensive end was
holding up the edge. He's standing behind the defensive end
and it seemed like he could have folded inside.
Speaker 6 (47:33):
But he wasn't the only one. Yeah, that was that
was everyone screwed up on that particular play. So it
not only Sam. Sam Williams has to be better. Our
draft pick as a Roku has to be better. Marshall
and Kneeland has to be better.
Speaker 4 (47:45):
I think they didn't Playland for some reason.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
Everybody has to.
Speaker 3 (47:49):
Be Kneeland played twenty seven snaps.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
Twenty seven got to be better. That's not enough.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
Who won less than Solomon Thomas had one tackle?
Speaker 2 (48:01):
There you go and let's there you go. Clowney?
Speaker 3 (48:03):
How quickly can Clowney get up to speed? Zadarius Smith
was signed last week by the Eagles. He had a
half sack in yesterday's game and twenty snaps. How quickly
can they get Clowney up to speed?
Speaker 2 (48:16):
He got twenty snaps coming next week? What are you
talking about? You're talking about you look forward to twenty
eight snaps. That goes up. We ratches that by eight.
I tell you what. There was a day javu for me,
us coming out flat at home. It's just something we
cannot do this yet.
Speaker 4 (48:33):
They only got behind six to nothing.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
Well, well to me, I saw thirteen three, that's what
I saw.
Speaker 3 (48:39):
Thanks to fifty five, they got behind only sixteen.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
Yeah, yeah, that this is the weirdest game.
Speaker 4 (48:46):
And they shut them out in overtime.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
Wow, that's great, shocking, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (48:52):
After giving up five hundred yards.
Speaker 5 (48:54):
Because if if I'm not going to don't shut him
out over.
Speaker 2 (48:57):
Time victory that we can't come out flat like this
anymore offensively or defensive. We gotta be a team. This
we we're sleepwalking when we come into certain games that
we know we should win. Happens all the time.
Speaker 3 (49:10):
Well, we weren't sleep walking on Monday morning though here
on Mixed Shots.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
Were we all right?
Speaker 3 (49:15):
We got so much more to talk about throughout the week.
We will see you again tomorrow at high noon.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
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