July 28, 2025 • 39 mins
First podcast of the week takes on the first padded practice, Jake Ferguson signing his extension, the sudden rash of injuries, still waiting on Micah and Nate wanting the third receiver candidates to step up.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Speaker 3 (00:16):
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Speaker 4 (00:24):
At It's another Marine Layer Monday here in Oxnard, California,
at the corner of Ventura Advantage. This is a Marine
Lair edition of Mix Shots. Bill Jones, Mickey Spagnola, and
Nate Newton. We had a false start to begin this show,
(00:47):
but now we are set to go.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yes, we are at nine.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Thirteen Pacific time, eleven thirteen Dallas time. We're gonna give
you the best thirty two minutes of content I've ever
heard about, the first padded practice on Sunday. We've got
news breaking this morning. We had news breaking yesterday morning.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Some of it bad, some of it good.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Hello Mickey Spagnola and Hello, how are y'all doing?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
All right?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
All right, let's get an abbreviated injury update.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
So where do you want to start their? NAVI Newton is.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
That you can't abbreviate injuries you got to talk about now,
That's right, So Bill make what are the injuries? What
is the breaking news?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
The breaking news came this morning, and it comes on
your offensive line, Nate Newton. I know that you're watching
everything that the O line does out here, and it
would come as a surprise if you watched practice yesterday
because number sixty five, Rob Jones, the veteran free agent
pickup from the Miami Dolphins who started seventeen games for
the Dolphins last year, was getting first team reps over
(01:51):
the weekend here. Well, he went through all of practice yesterday.
Even after practice, he's working with the rookie Tyler Booker,
becoming sort of a mentor to him. And then lo
and behold, word comes down late last night and officially
gets reported this morning. I think Todd Archer was the
first with it that he's been diagnosed with a broken
(02:12):
bone in his neck and looks like he told Tommy
Yarish that he hopes to be back in two to
three months.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Wow, we jinxed him. Yeah, we probably do. We not
talk about depth on the offensive line.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Veteran depth. Veteran depth depth that has played in this
league and played well above average. Depth that our coach
Connor had a chance to try to infuse into this
offensive line that's got a lot of young guys just
in case injury have halping you you know, not be
a shock because we got to keep back up.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
And that's a big blow.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
That's a big blow to lose this guy, especially if
he's working with the young booker. You know as a
as a guy that you're to bridge that gap flocks experience,
ole Man, that's a big blow. We had other injuries too,
hih Bill, Well.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Yeah, there have been some other injuries. Paris Campbell went
down the other day. Mickey is the expert on injuries.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
The initial prognosis was a sprained medio collateral ligament, so
you know when he got helped off, it had acl
all over it. But they that's what they thought.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
And then yesterday it practiced. Brevin span Ford came off
the field. He was able to leave the field under
his own power.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
But it sounds like it's a high ankle spring and
it was ugly because Limpky got pushed and he tripped
over somebody and rolled him, I mean rolled him good
and I saw it and then I saw it a
little later and it's not a good look in this
high ankle. Yep, we know how that is. That's that
can be four to five.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Weeks easy, could be the rest of training cap, yes, right, yes.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
And maybe it might should be the rest of training
camp because you want him healthy for the start of
the regular site.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
I mean healthy and still still out. I think it's
a common sprained ankle. So they're just being cautious with
that one.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yes, but that number seventy five took his place yesterday.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Keem Identity out of Garland High School, the erosity of Kansas,
who has fifteen starts in his NFL career.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
By the way, you know the thing, and we'll probably
keep going back this on your show. That is a
rarity when you can go out and get guys off
the street, you know, like mixed, like they say, off
the street, that have played and played well in this league,
above average in this league. And like I say, a
lot of people brag about how coach Connor is a
(04:44):
detail oriented guy, that he's he knows what to do.
And before we get into this, yesterday, just to open
up practice, you know, full pass. You know, we had
an overloaded line a couple of times, yes, and so
I I'm looking at that like wow. And Shadiq Charles
was that guy that moved around as that extra lineman
(05:06):
to the to the either side of the offensive line.
So just to give up, you know, just to show
us that, hey, they're thinking run. And during the run
period they had sixteen plays and pretty physical.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
They're also using us awesome Richards in that capacity too.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
They actually had them in motion.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, they had both guys, yes, uh uh, it's just
you know, Nate Thomas played. It wasn't Nate Thomas that
played the second team left tackle. One other guy, Austin
Richards played the second team right tackle. So they got
a rhythm of how they want to do this thing,
(05:43):
and so far, so good. Practice Yesterday for my perspective,
was nothing outstanding, just guys battling, trying to find their
trying to find their their rhythm. Number fifty two Booker,
you know, some place he looked at great, then some
you know, especially the pull in plays. He's just figuring
out who to hit, you know, in the situations because
(06:06):
backs are cutting things back too quick, so you couldn't
get a locked in deal. But they go back today again,
full pass and the more they can get in the
pass and get to hit, the more they can find
a rhythm.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Well, they had given Booker kind of a step back
on Saturday, he ended up playing with the second team
and they used Rob Jones with the starters, and then
they went back to normal on Sunday. And then Rob Jones,
who I mean, he started seventeen games last year for
(06:40):
the Dolphins and he's got thirty starts in his career. Yeah,
and you were looking at Okay, here's a veteran guy,
and you know, I think he he's a guard, but
he has played a little bit of tackle, right, so
you got some experience there, and then he how do
you break a bone in your neck? What bones up
here other than your your vertebrate?
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Well, the bigger question is how do you continue to
practice where they broken bone in? Yes, yes, it just
it probably probably happened, Okay, he felt something, and then
he will continued to practice through it because he's a
tough guy. He's an offensive lineman, right, Daden, So he's
a tough guy. And then even to the point where
even when practice is over, he's not immediately going to
(07:25):
have anyone look at it. He's working with the young
rookie on the field afterwards, and some technique stuff. And
then oh, by the way, after practice, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
You had a journal and stopped flowing, and we are
so used to if we hear about next, we think
about paralyzed, we think about braces. It's so dramatic when
we hear about neck injuries to his bones in your necks,
just like it's bones in your hands that you can
still function with without you know what I'm saying, once
(07:57):
they break and still function. I mean, we were glad
it wasn't no, nothing dramatic. So, uh, it's just a
scary situation.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
But we have guys.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
We have hop rock Hoff, and we have guys that
have played TJ Bass, Yeah, TJ Bass, Charles, Yeah, we
got guys that can come in. We don't know how
well guys will play because we don't have that on
film yet or we don't have that in live bullets
far as the game, but we have veteran guys on
(08:29):
this team that are played in the NFL, that have
played above average.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
So take your.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Time, young man, make sure you're one hundred percent health
because it is a neck. And then when you when
he's ready, he's ready.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Yeah, I heard something cranking in my neck the other day,
like it was.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Check it out.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Maybe that hit the bone out there, you know.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Okay, So you look at what they did with Rob Jones.
So they signed him when free agency opened in March,
and not very many people made a big deal about it. Okay,
there's a we call him a better guy. He's not
a thirty year old veteran. He's only twenty six. Yeah,
relatively young and uh and it wasn't a high dollar contract,
(09:10):
so for someone who started just mental exactly right, right,
so he would be the way they probably viewed it,
not knowing at that time that their first round draft
pick was going to be an offensive guard. Correct, Okay,
he was a guy that could be a functioning offensive
starter on the offensive line. And then if you draft
(09:33):
a Tyler Booker, which they did, he is as I
think Mickey may have mentioned, the bridge guy to when
Booker is ready. Well, now what's happened is okay? For
any rookie, as you know, they making the transition can
be a very difficult thing, even you don't know for
sure they may have the talent that it may take
him half a season from a mental standpoint or whatever
(09:57):
to get acclimated. So Rob's owns is your bridge to
whenever he is ready. Well, the bridge has been taken
away down.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Yeah, the same thing that happened last year at tackle
right with a DOGA.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yes. But the thing here is like we did we
didn't do lash like I thought we should have. They've
been giving book a first team the majority of the
first team rights, and the more reps you can get,
whether you're hitting or not, the better off you be
because you're learning the offense and you're getting to running
at a high temple. So but even if this kid
(10:30):
is not ready, Booker and you will be able to
still stick up a good veteran guy in Now with
Jones being out, we still got I think more than
enough guys to take his place.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
So I know you didn't get drafted, but how many
reps would you get your rookie year? Oh? None, not
with coach none, no, no, no, no. With Washington none none,
none none.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
But it's different now. You got to say we had
two weeks, but no veterans we practiced, you know, remember
it used to be six to eight weeks. Yeah, so
you got all the reps, you know, because you was
facing rookies first and second year and injured guys you
got so you had a variety, had like one hundred
(11:20):
and twenty guys before the veterans even get there.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
So when the veterans got there.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
There, yeah, now you got too. Almost seemed like it
seemed like two hundred but about about one hundred and
forty guys in camp. So the reps dropped down tremendously
once the veterans got there. But I got all the
reps for two weeks, a week and a half.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
And then when the veterans veterans getting there, yeah I
got that.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Mark may Brush Grimm Bostic. Remember this is the hall.
They cut me, the last cut, and they went to
the super Bowl, like, hey, let's get rid of this
guy and go to the super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
They said, that's all right, I'm going to go to Dallas.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I'm gonna go to three, my favorite team. Thank you,
Thank you, Washington, whoever you all are. Trump say you
will be back to resk.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
On that note, we'll get into the other news, the
good news that we can get to the good news.
You want to get to it now, I'm trying to
calculate breaks right now because we still let's let's go.
Let's come back with the good news. Okay, back, it's
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All right, and the Cowboys are practicing today. Yes, they
are not practicing Tomorrow Tuesday. They are practicing Wednesday and
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(15:25):
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Speaker 8 (15:26):
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Speaker 3 (15:26):
All these days off?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Well, but they're going in pads the majority of these days. Yes,
they come back, so probably CBA related, Yes, get let them,
let them.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Today is the third straight day of practice, second straight
day in pads. Yes, so you got a day off
and then two more days in pads, a day off
pads now there, and then another day.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Off because they got the Rams in pads.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Right right, yes, tomorrow, and then you got the first
preseason game after that. That's right, which is moving right
along right.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
I was just thinking about it this morning. You're two
and a half weeks away from going home. I'm a
week away. The big news Sunday morning tied D in
the fold for five seasons, a four year contract extension
for Jake Ferguson reported fifty two million dollars thirty million guaranteed,
(16:21):
twelve million dollars signing bonus exactly, and already spent a
lot of it on the rain.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
That was pretty funny when Schottenheimer said, well, now money too.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
You're familiar with his fiance Nate, right, No, Sirley, Cavender.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
She's on.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Are you on TikTok?
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Sir?
Speaker 4 (16:40):
She's got like a million followers, one hundred million followers
on TikTok. The producer supreme is Chuck League over there.
When I asked if Nate was on TikTok.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Well, don't ask me because you'll chuckle again.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
But you know, I thought you have to do crazy
stuff to get on TikTok.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
That's what I never got on it.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
You can do.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Civilized season influencer. Okay, what's the college basketball player?
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Okay? Okay, great, happy for her? Man. You know, I
thought you had to get butt naked, run down the
street screaming or something like that to be on TikTok. Huh. Okay, Now,
I'm not going to get out of my clothes, man,
So those days are over.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Yeah, yeah, and got him signed. H He was on
the final year of his four year rookie deal. It
was scheduled to make a base salary of three point
four million dollars, and they said, you know what, if
you sign a year early, we're going to give you
(17:43):
a four year extension guarantee thirty million, and we're going
to give you twelve million dollars to put in the
bank today today, right?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
So why I get a filling mickage jabbing at someone?
What he saying? What's the underling?
Speaker 3 (18:00):
I know, I don't think it's underlying. It's right out there.
And your co owner Stephen Jones said he got Uh,
you got to want to get paid, right, and he said,
we pay guys who want to get paid. How about that?
And that's not underlining either, right, That's.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
What I said.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
What else?
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah, it's a directed right, it's a bullseye, right, and
just think about it. He could have waited till next
year and said, okay, I want I got to see
what the tight end market is and maybe I get
more money or and work for three point four million,
or I could sign this and put twelve million dollars
(18:47):
in the bank tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yes, yes, what would you have done me? I never
made that much? So you know what I have done?
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yeah, we're taking the money.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yeah, you know what I would have done. I mean
everybody that is not that guy. I just I'm happy
for him.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
He needs to rebound from last year. He was had injuries,
can never get going. I'm hoping this year he can
go back to that guy. We know knew two years
with that gritty catch everything type guy.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Uh and he's looking like that guy out here on them.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Oh definitely, man. I saw him catch a tight ends.
Great job yesterday. Wide receivers. Come on, man, who's gonna
be the thrades? Catch the ball? Catch the ball?
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Do we get into that here in just a mon
So the other thing about it, so the Cowboys basically,
it's only costing them five hundred thousand more against the
salary cap this year, Yes, because of your pro rated
signing bonus over five years. Uh So they looked at
it at, Okay, this is great, let's let's get it done,
(19:49):
you know. And they thought the other guy, Micah Parsons,
they had it done. And then the agent got involved,
and now here we are more than a weekend the
training camp and he's walking around in a stocking camp
on the field.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I'm not gonna get into contracts. Just when, please, Farson,
stay healthy and when you come back, come back ready
to rock and roll.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah, I'm through it. I don't been through you know.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
The thing.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
The reason I'm I kind of got a personal thing
here because I got more attention with everybody else trying
to get a contract in it, Mike, you know, Troy,
everybody want to talk to me. I'm like, I'm tired
of discussing everybody else's money. I never had a contract problem,
so you know, up whatever he signed signed my brother with.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
You well, And the bottom line is we we spend
all this time talking about it, right, yes, sir? Questions
and nobody that I can think of on the Cowboys
missed an entire season. Nobody only one guy. Wait, I
take it back before you got here. Nineteen eighty five,
(21:00):
the Cowboys drafted a guard tackle out of Texas A
and M named Matt Darwin. Look it up. Make sure
I got the year right. Nineteen eighty five, and he
missed all the offseason. He didn't sign, he missed training camp.
Am I right?
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Matt Darwin, center guard, Texas A and M.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
I remember asking texts. I said, so, don't you need
to get this done? Don't you want to get this done?
You know what Texas answer was, and I'll clear up
take out the colorful words. And he said, do you
think I'm gonna worry about a such and such fifth
round draft choice? Wow? The guy sat out the whole season,
came back the next year, got drafted in the fourth
(21:48):
round by Philadelphia and ended up having about a five
year career. He started some games, but that's the only
The only other guy that I can think of was
Darren Smith, the linebacker from Miami, and he was trying
to get paid. I believe he was in the final
years his contra linebackers. And what happened was he sat
(22:14):
out the maximum games you could miss and then played
the maximum games you needed. I don't remember what it
was to get a year of service. And then he
became a free agent the next year. But he actually
didn't sit out the whole seaton.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Okay, we're about to go to break here, but since
you bring up this fifth round offensive guard that tech
Shram did not care about whether he signed or not.
Right man sitting to your left in nineteen eighty five
was playing for the Tampa Bay Bandits of the United
States Football League And it was your last year with
the Tampa Bay Bandits. In nineteen eighty six he became
(22:51):
a Dallas Cowboy. Do you know why tech Shram didn't
care about the fifth round offensive guard Matt Darwin from
Texas And tell me bell because he has watched the
USFL games.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Yeah, that there.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Is a future six time pro bowler that I'm about
to sign, who's about to become a Dallas Cowboys go
to three Super Bowls and he.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Was big as a kitchen.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yes, for even less money, all.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Right, And now you know the rest of the story,
all right, Nate wants to go off on the wide
receivers when we come back here on mix shots.
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Speaker 4 (26:19):
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Speaker 2 (26:21):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Naden Frisco has been watching the wide receivers this training
camp and in particular yesterday's first day in pads. What
were your observations?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Who is the number three uh whide receiving. The reason
I say that because it's three guys. I think Jalen Tober, Uh,
Cavante Turfin and probably one other guy is volume for
this position, the new guy Mango Mingo. I mean, you
(26:53):
guys have to catch the ball. That is gonna be
the difference in you being and that guy that uh
the coach can trust, uh that Dak can trust.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
It was just so obvious yesterday, and yes, you have
to make difficult catches. You have to. You're the third receiver.
You're that guy that at the last minute you get
the oh ball, Oh I'm running out of time, here's
your ball, and you have to be aware and being
in the right place at all times and more importantly
catch the ball. That kind of bothered me yesterday. Out
(27:27):
of all the things of practice, practice was just a
normal good practice and nobody really stood out. But those
drops stood out to me.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
And I think they were contested balls. And Andrew booth
men play on. Yes, a couple of those that native
is termed as drops by Jalen Tors.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Yes, you mean he was around the ball?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
He was, Yes, I mean he was acting. He was
acting a bad boy yesterday.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Man.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
I almost said something not nice, but he was. He
was a bad boy yesterday.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
Man.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
He was around that ball.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
So October, it is your three third receiver. He is
coming off a forty nine forty nine catch season last.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Year and eleven teams with seven coming into camp.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
He's penciled in, penciled in.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
You tell me number one, yes.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Number as the third receiver.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Right. I think it's going to be a rotation in
there on what they're looking for. Yeah, they're trying to.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Throw in the radio.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
The other names Ryan Flinoy sixth round draft pick last year,
Jal seventh round draft pick in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
But again, it depends on what they're trying to accomplish,
because when you hear third receiver, everybody thinks, well, he's
in the slot. Well they use Ceede Lamb in the
slot quite a bit, that's right, So the third receiver
could very well be on the outside.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
My thing is this, I don't want my future to
be in doubt. I would want to know that if
something happening coach said, hey, Mick go in, which is yeah,
you don't. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Hey, Producer
Supreme Mark Nate. I don't want no, I don't want
to be an option third. I want to be the man.
And you know that's what I want to be. You know,
(29:14):
and uh that that's that's not cool. Man. And you
you're trying to make a team and show a new
coaching staff who you are. You know, find your niche.
It's I'd rather be a swing tackle and know that
I'm the swing tackle regardless of what than to be
a starter that may play three games and never play again.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Now you want a triumvirate. Yes, of wide receivers like
Drew Pearson, Tony Hill, and Butcher Johnson.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Thank you that way, your quarterback feels good all the time.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Do you know what I I don't know why this
dawned on me the other day, since you brought up
those guys' names. I was thinking, you know, Pickings and
and Lamb. It's a pretty good deal, yes, right, yes,
And I was thinking, can two guys on the same
team at wide receiver make the Pro Bowl the same year?
(30:07):
So I went through all the Pro Bowls and the
Cowboys have never had two Pro Bowl wide receivers in
the same year, and they've had some really good wide
receivers over the days. And then I want you to
look this up before. Look at the nineteen eighty nineteen
ninety five season, so Mike led the team. I think
(30:30):
it was like one hundred and eleven catches, and you
could have got it in that booking something else.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
I'm looking up if two NFL teams had Oh.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Yeah they have.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Okay, so you know.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
You want me to go over here, go to the
all the yearly results and go to nineteen ninety five
and look at who was the second leading receiver, not
wide receiver, not the second per second leading receiver was
no check right, but wide sixty two.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
Emmett had sixty two. Kevin Williams with thirty eight receptions
your second next wide receiver, and Irvin had one hundred
and eleven hundred eleven.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
I'm telling you guys something.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
And like I said, I went way overboard last week
with a thousand throws. But if they throw two hundred
and fifty times, if they throw two hundred and fifty times,
one hundred and ninety of them, she's going to be
to the wide receive.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
So it was second receiver. How about the third?
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Was gonna say? Guess who the.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Third wide receivers on the the last time the Cowboys
won the Super Bowl in nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
This is unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Your wide receiver catches. Irvin had one hundred eleven catches
for sixteen hundred and three yards and ten touchdowns. Number
two wide receiver Kevin Williams thirty eight two touchdowns. Number
three wide receiver Corey Fleming had six catches for eighty
(32:08):
three yards.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
That's supposed to be supposed to be.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
No commedy did Dion end up with Dion had two
catches for twenty five yards.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Yeah, is it.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Step Frett Williams.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Yeah, Stepfret.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Stepfrett Williams had three catches for twenty.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Eight was a rookie, I think that year.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
You know, that's a great name. I think there are
never there's never been another person named step Frett.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
As a matter of fact. And this is going out
in left field. But I remember at some point, I
think he was a rookie that year and his father
passed away, and I was in the locker room and
Mike goes up to him and says, hey, you need
any money, You need help to get home, or you
(32:55):
get your plane ticket or whatever you need, let me know.
And that behind the scenes, that was Michael Irvin, right.
He was gonna take care of his teammates, right. So anyways, Yeah,
you could have success when you're wait, the running back
is gaining how many yards that year?
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Look, you had it, I know, but I was about
to change topics.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Don't change on me.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Emmett had three hundred seventy seven carries for seventeen hundred
seventy three yards and twenty five touchdowns, and he caught
sixty two passes for seven hundred five yards and five
carriers all right, passes sixty sixty two catch sixty two
I mean for three hundred and seventy five yards and
(33:44):
no touch I had no check and sixty two catches
three seventy five and no touchdown.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
And some idiot out there that calls themselves on, you know,
the guys that does the numbers, uh huh, wants to
devalue running back idiots who listened to that. That's why
Philadelphia is sitting up there with a guy that New
York deem one Worthy and that cost the whole league. Man.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
And if I remember when those seventeen hundred yards were
the franchise single season record until I think.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Those touchdowns came behind lowd left baby.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
Nicky, I have I asked ai Okay to provide us,
to provide us with the last time we had a
team had two wide receivers. Two wide receivers make the
Pro Bowl in the same year. Yes, it is possible
and not uncommon for two wide receivers from the same
(34:42):
NFL team to both be selected for the Pro Bowl.
One example is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers Mike Evans and
Chris Godwin, who were both selected for the twenty twenty
Pro Bowl. Other examples include the Cincinnati Bengals Jamar Chase
and T Higgins and the Miami dollph fans Tyreek Hill
and Jaylen Waddall, as well as the San Francisco forty
(35:03):
nine ers Deebo, Samuel and Brandon.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
I producer Supremes.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
I know, I don't know, I see this is this
is a commentary on AI. Okay, I'm pretty sure that
Evans and Godwin probably did select get selected in twenty twenty.
And then they cite other examples and they don't give
the years and so I which I'm thinking those guys
didn't it didn't.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Have eight people decided not to go to the Pro Bowl,
and then they with fifty choice.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Well they didn't even have season, right, that was COVID
wow that year?
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Yeah Okay, Yeah, Evans and Godwin made it as reserves, okay,
and a.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Lot of guys didn't play.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
You know, if in today's NFL, I would not pay
a receiver more than fifteen million dollars if he's not
gonna catch at least seventy seventy seventy eighty passes. Now
you're gonna pay a guy four million dollars and he
(36:19):
catched thirty five passes. Great, but if you pay a
guy five or six million dollars he come up with
thirty five passes, something wrong. You know, you you make
sure you're paying the right guy man, and have your
coordinator understand who that guy is.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
I saw another interesting thing yesterday. Trayvon Diggs is still
rehabbing right from his nieces. Yes, yeah, and has not
practiced with the team. But I noticed that he was
taking part in some of the walkthroughs. Yeah, so at
(36:56):
least out there making steps, So maybe he's getting a
little bit closer. I talked to Savann Revel and he
felt like he's close, but he he his answer, I said, well,
when do you think he goes? Whenever Britt tells me
I'm ready to go, And he said, that's when I'll
(37:16):
be ready to go. So he he feels like he
was close to really really working out hard. Uh, and
the side steps and you know if you're if you're
a C L and right, you can't do those side steps. So, uh,
those guys are getting closer, which would help out the
cornerback position greatly, especially you know when you look at
(37:41):
Doron Bland is on what is it maternity leave or
whatever they call.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
It official list, but that's what he's going.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Right, he's out, was a waiting birth attorney, attorney whatever.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
All right, I think we're out of time. However, this
is proved, Lair. This is proof once again that your
own research is better than artificial intelligence. That's right, because
two thousand and eight Larry Fitzgerald and and Kwan Bolden
of the Arizona Cardinals both made the Pro Bowl. How
many receptions? Fitzgerald had ninety six catches twelve touchdowns. Bolden
(38:20):
had eighty nine catches eleven touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
That's your season for CD Lamb and George Pickens.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
You'll be happy with that, right.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
I would I wouldn't with two balls.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Cory Fleming treatment, Cory Fleming out.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
All right.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
That does it for an abbreviated edition of mixed shots
on this marine layer. Monday, the sun is breaking through,
it is, and we will have practice this afternoon and
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Speaker 4 (00:24):
At It's another Marine Layer Monday here in Oxnard, California,
at the corner of Ventura Advantage. This is a Marine
Lair edition of Mix Shots. Bill Jones, Mickey Spagnola, and
Nate Newton. We had a false start to begin this show,
(00:47):
but now we are set to go.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yes, we are at nine.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Thirteen Pacific time, eleven thirteen Dallas time. We're gonna give
you the best thirty two minutes of content I've ever
heard about, the first padded practice on Sunday. We've got
news breaking this morning. We had news breaking yesterday morning.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Some of it bad, some of it good.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Hello Mickey Spagnola and Hello, how are y'all doing?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
All right?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
All right, let's get an abbreviated injury update.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
So where do you want to start their? NAVI Newton is.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
That you can't abbreviate injuries you got to talk about now,
That's right, So Bill make what are the injuries? What
is the breaking news?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
The breaking news came this morning, and it comes on
your offensive line, Nate Newton. I know that you're watching
everything that the O line does out here, and it
would come as a surprise if you watched practice yesterday
because number sixty five, Rob Jones, the veteran free agent
pickup from the Miami Dolphins who started seventeen games for
the Dolphins last year, was getting first team reps over
(01:51):
the weekend here. Well, he went through all of practice yesterday.
Even after practice, he's working with the rookie Tyler Booker,
becoming sort of a mentor to him. And then lo
and behold, word comes down late last night and officially
gets reported this morning. I think Todd Archer was the
first with it that he's been diagnosed with a broken
(02:12):
bone in his neck and looks like he told Tommy
Yarish that he hopes to be back in two to
three months.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Wow, we jinxed him. Yeah, we probably do. We not
talk about depth on the offensive line.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Veteran depth. Veteran depth depth that has played in this
league and played well above average. Depth that our coach
Connor had a chance to try to infuse into this
offensive line that's got a lot of young guys just
in case injury have halping you you know, not be
a shock because we got to keep back up.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
And that's a big blow.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
That's a big blow to lose this guy, especially if
he's working with the young booker. You know as a
as a guy that you're to bridge that gap flocks experience,
ole Man, that's a big blow. We had other injuries too,
hih Bill, Well.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Yeah, there have been some other injuries. Paris Campbell went
down the other day. Mickey is the expert on injuries.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
The initial prognosis was a sprained medio collateral ligament, so
you know when he got helped off, it had acl
all over it. But they that's what they thought.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
And then yesterday it practiced. Brevin span Ford came off
the field. He was able to leave the field under
his own power.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
But it sounds like it's a high ankle spring and
it was ugly because Limpky got pushed and he tripped
over somebody and rolled him, I mean rolled him good
and I saw it and then I saw it a
little later and it's not a good look in this
high ankle. Yep, we know how that is. That's that
can be four to five.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Weeks easy, could be the rest of training cap, yes, right, yes.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
And maybe it might should be the rest of training
camp because you want him healthy for the start of
the regular site.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
I mean healthy and still still out. I think it's
a common sprained ankle. So they're just being cautious with
that one.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yes, but that number seventy five took his place yesterday.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Keem Identity out of Garland High School, the erosity of Kansas,
who has fifteen starts in his NFL career.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
By the way, you know the thing, and we'll probably
keep going back this on your show. That is a
rarity when you can go out and get guys off
the street, you know, like mixed, like they say, off
the street, that have played and played well in this league,
above average in this league. And like I say, a
lot of people brag about how coach Connor is a
(04:44):
detail oriented guy, that he's he knows what to do.
And before we get into this, yesterday, just to open
up practice, you know, full pass. You know, we had
an overloaded line a couple of times, yes, and so
I I'm looking at that like wow. And Shadiq Charles
was that guy that moved around as that extra lineman
(05:06):
to the to the either side of the offensive line.
So just to give up, you know, just to show
us that, hey, they're thinking run. And during the run
period they had sixteen plays and pretty physical.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
They're also using us awesome Richards in that capacity too.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
They actually had them in motion.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, they had both guys, yes, uh uh, it's just
you know, Nate Thomas played. It wasn't Nate Thomas that
played the second team left tackle. One other guy, Austin
Richards played the second team right tackle. So they got
a rhythm of how they want to do this thing,
(05:43):
and so far, so good. Practice Yesterday for my perspective,
was nothing outstanding, just guys battling, trying to find their
trying to find their their rhythm. Number fifty two Booker,
you know, some place he looked at great, then some
you know, especially the pull in plays. He's just figuring
out who to hit, you know, in the situations because
(06:06):
backs are cutting things back too quick, so you couldn't
get a locked in deal. But they go back today again,
full pass and the more they can get in the
pass and get to hit, the more they can find
a rhythm.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Well, they had given Booker kind of a step back
on Saturday, he ended up playing with the second team
and they used Rob Jones with the starters, and then
they went back to normal on Sunday. And then Rob Jones,
who I mean, he started seventeen games last year for
(06:40):
the Dolphins and he's got thirty starts in his career. Yeah,
and you were looking at Okay, here's a veteran guy,
and you know, I think he he's a guard, but
he has played a little bit of tackle, right, so
you got some experience there, and then he how do
you break a bone in your neck? What bones up
here other than your your vertebrate?
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Well, the bigger question is how do you continue to
practice where they broken bone in? Yes, yes, it just
it probably probably happened, Okay, he felt something, and then
he will continued to practice through it because he's a
tough guy. He's an offensive lineman, right, Daden, So he's
a tough guy. And then even to the point where
even when practice is over, he's not immediately going to
(07:25):
have anyone look at it. He's working with the young
rookie on the field afterwards, and some technique stuff. And
then oh, by the way, after practice, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
You had a journal and stopped flowing, and we are
so used to if we hear about next, we think
about paralyzed, we think about braces. It's so dramatic when
we hear about neck injuries to his bones in your necks,
just like it's bones in your hands that you can
still function with without you know what I'm saying, once
(07:57):
they break and still function. I mean, we were glad
it wasn't no, nothing dramatic. So, uh, it's just a
scary situation.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
But we have guys.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
We have hop rock Hoff, and we have guys that
have played TJ Bass, Yeah, TJ Bass, Charles, Yeah, we
got guys that can come in. We don't know how
well guys will play because we don't have that on
film yet or we don't have that in live bullets
far as the game, but we have veteran guys on
(08:29):
this team that are played in the NFL, that have
played above average.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
So take your.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Time, young man, make sure you're one hundred percent health
because it is a neck. And then when you when
he's ready, he's ready.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Yeah, I heard something cranking in my neck the other day,
like it was.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Check it out.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Maybe that hit the bone out there, you know.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Okay, So you look at what they did with Rob Jones.
So they signed him when free agency opened in March,
and not very many people made a big deal about it. Okay,
there's a we call him a better guy. He's not
a thirty year old veteran. He's only twenty six. Yeah,
relatively young and uh and it wasn't a high dollar contract,
(09:10):
so for someone who started just mental exactly right, right,
so he would be the way they probably viewed it,
not knowing at that time that their first round draft
pick was going to be an offensive guard. Correct, Okay,
he was a guy that could be a functioning offensive
starter on the offensive line. And then if you draft
(09:33):
a Tyler Booker, which they did, he is as I
think Mickey may have mentioned, the bridge guy to when
Booker is ready. Well, now what's happened is okay? For
any rookie, as you know, they making the transition can
be a very difficult thing, even you don't know for
sure they may have the talent that it may take
him half a season from a mental standpoint or whatever
(09:57):
to get acclimated. So Rob's owns is your bridge to
whenever he is ready. Well, the bridge has been taken
away down.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Yeah, the same thing that happened last year at tackle
right with a DOGA.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yes. But the thing here is like we did we
didn't do lash like I thought we should have. They've
been giving book a first team the majority of the
first team rights, and the more reps you can get,
whether you're hitting or not, the better off you be
because you're learning the offense and you're getting to running
at a high temple. So but even if this kid
(10:30):
is not ready, Booker and you will be able to
still stick up a good veteran guy in Now with
Jones being out, we still got I think more than
enough guys to take his place.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
So I know you didn't get drafted, but how many
reps would you get your rookie year? Oh? None, not
with coach none, no, no, no, no. With Washington none none,
none none.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
But it's different now. You got to say we had
two weeks, but no veterans we practiced, you know, remember
it used to be six to eight weeks. Yeah, so
you got all the reps, you know, because you was
facing rookies first and second year and injured guys you
got so you had a variety, had like one hundred
(11:20):
and twenty guys before the veterans even get there.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
So when the veterans got there.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
There, yeah, now you got too. Almost seemed like it
seemed like two hundred but about about one hundred and
forty guys in camp. So the reps dropped down tremendously
once the veterans got there. But I got all the
reps for two weeks, a week and a half.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
And then when the veterans veterans getting there, yeah I
got that.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Mark may Brush Grimm Bostic. Remember this is the hall.
They cut me, the last cut, and they went to
the super Bowl, like, hey, let's get rid of this
guy and go to the super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
They said, that's all right, I'm going to go to Dallas.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I'm gonna go to three, my favorite team. Thank you,
Thank you, Washington, whoever you all are. Trump say you
will be back to resk.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
On that note, we'll get into the other news, the
good news that we can get to the good news.
You want to get to it now, I'm trying to
calculate breaks right now because we still let's let's go.
Let's come back with the good news. Okay, back, it's
a good news. Marine Layer Monday, when we comes.
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Speaker 4 (15:02):
All right, and the Cowboys are practicing today. Yes, they
are not practicing Tomorrow Tuesday. They are practicing Wednesday and
Thursday off. Friday, practice again Saturday off Sunday practice again Monday, Tuesday,
and Tuesday a week from tomorrow is the joint practice
(15:25):
with the Rams.
Speaker 8 (15:26):
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Speaker 3 (15:26):
All these days off?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Well, but they're going in pads the majority of these days. Yes,
they come back, so probably CBA related, Yes, get let them,
let them.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Today is the third straight day of practice, second straight
day in pads. Yes, so you got a day off
and then two more days in pads, a day off
pads now there, and then another day.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Off because they got the Rams in pads.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Right right, yes, tomorrow, and then you got the first
preseason game after that. That's right, which is moving right
along right.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
I was just thinking about it this morning. You're two
and a half weeks away from going home. I'm a
week away. The big news Sunday morning tied D in
the fold for five seasons, a four year contract extension
for Jake Ferguson reported fifty two million dollars thirty million guaranteed,
(16:21):
twelve million dollars signing bonus exactly, and already spent a
lot of it on the rain.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
That was pretty funny when Schottenheimer said, well, now money too.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
You're familiar with his fiance Nate, right, No, Sirley, Cavender.
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Are you on TikTok?
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Sir?
Speaker 4 (16:40):
She's got like a million followers, one hundred million followers
on TikTok. The producer supreme is Chuck League over there.
When I asked if Nate was on TikTok.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Well, don't ask me because you'll chuckle again.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
But you know, I thought you have to do crazy
stuff to get on TikTok.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
That's what I never got on it.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
You can do.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Civilized season influencer. Okay, what's the college basketball player?
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Okay? Okay, great, happy for her? Man. You know, I
thought you had to get butt naked, run down the
street screaming or something like that to be on TikTok. Huh. Okay, Now,
I'm not going to get out of my clothes, man,
So those days are over.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Yeah, yeah, and got him signed. H He was on
the final year of his four year rookie deal. It
was scheduled to make a base salary of three point
four million dollars, and they said, you know what, if
you sign a year early, we're going to give you
(17:43):
a four year extension guarantee thirty million, and we're going
to give you twelve million dollars to put in the
bank today today, right?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
So why I get a filling mickage jabbing at someone?
What he saying? What's the underling?
Speaker 3 (18:00):
I know, I don't think it's underlying. It's right out there.
And your co owner Stephen Jones said he got Uh,
you got to want to get paid, right, and he said,
we pay guys who want to get paid. How about that?
And that's not underlining either, right, That's.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
What I said.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
What else?
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah, it's a directed right, it's a bullseye, right, and
just think about it. He could have waited till next
year and said, okay, I want I got to see
what the tight end market is and maybe I get
more money or and work for three point four million,
or I could sign this and put twelve million dollars
(18:47):
in the bank tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yes, yes, what would you have done me? I never
made that much? So you know what I have done?
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yeah, we're taking the money.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yeah, you know what I would have done. I mean
everybody that is not that guy. I just I'm happy
for him.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
He needs to rebound from last year. He was had injuries,
can never get going. I'm hoping this year he can
go back to that guy. We know knew two years
with that gritty catch everything type guy.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Uh and he's looking like that guy out here on them.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Oh definitely, man. I saw him catch a tight ends.
Great job yesterday. Wide receivers. Come on, man, who's gonna
be the thrades? Catch the ball? Catch the ball?
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Do we get into that here in just a mon
So the other thing about it, so the Cowboys basically,
it's only costing them five hundred thousand more against the
salary cap this year, Yes, because of your pro rated
signing bonus over five years. Uh So they looked at
it at, Okay, this is great, let's let's get it done,
(19:49):
you know. And they thought the other guy, Micah Parsons,
they had it done. And then the agent got involved,
and now here we are more than a weekend the
training camp and he's walking around in a stocking camp
on the field.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I'm not gonna get into contracts. Just when, please, Farson,
stay healthy and when you come back, come back ready
to rock and roll.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah, I'm through it. I don't been through you know.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
The thing.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
The reason I'm I kind of got a personal thing
here because I got more attention with everybody else trying
to get a contract in it, Mike, you know, Troy,
everybody want to talk to me. I'm like, I'm tired
of discussing everybody else's money. I never had a contract problem,
so you know, up whatever he signed signed my brother with.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
You well, And the bottom line is we we spend
all this time talking about it, right, yes, sir? Questions
and nobody that I can think of on the Cowboys
missed an entire season. Nobody only one guy. Wait, I
take it back before you got here. Nineteen eighty five,
(21:00):
the Cowboys drafted a guard tackle out of Texas A
and M named Matt Darwin. Look it up. Make sure
I got the year right. Nineteen eighty five, and he
missed all the offseason. He didn't sign, he missed training camp.
Am I right?
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Matt Darwin, center guard, Texas A and M.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
I remember asking texts. I said, so, don't you need
to get this done? Don't you want to get this done?
You know what Texas answer was, and I'll clear up
take out the colorful words. And he said, do you
think I'm gonna worry about a such and such fifth
round draft choice? Wow? The guy sat out the whole season,
came back the next year, got drafted in the fourth
(21:48):
round by Philadelphia and ended up having about a five
year career. He started some games, but that's the only
The only other guy that I can think of was
Darren Smith, the linebacker from Miami, and he was trying
to get paid. I believe he was in the final
years his contra linebackers. And what happened was he sat
(22:14):
out the maximum games you could miss and then played
the maximum games you needed. I don't remember what it
was to get a year of service. And then he
became a free agent the next year. But he actually
didn't sit out the whole seaton.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Okay, we're about to go to break here, but since
you bring up this fifth round offensive guard that tech
Shram did not care about whether he signed or not.
Right man sitting to your left in nineteen eighty five
was playing for the Tampa Bay Bandits of the United
States Football League And it was your last year with
the Tampa Bay Bandits. In nineteen eighty six he became
(22:51):
a Dallas Cowboy. Do you know why tech Shram didn't
care about the fifth round offensive guard Matt Darwin from
Texas And tell me bell because he has watched the
USFL games.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Yeah, that there.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Is a future six time pro bowler that I'm about
to sign, who's about to become a Dallas Cowboys go
to three Super Bowls and he.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Was big as a kitchen.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yes, for even less money, all.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Right, And now you know the rest of the story,
all right, Nate wants to go off on the wide
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Speaker 4 (26:19):
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Speaker 2 (26:21):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Naden Frisco has been watching the wide receivers this training
camp and in particular yesterday's first day in pads. What
were your observations?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Who is the number three uh whide receiving. The reason
I say that because it's three guys. I think Jalen Tober, Uh,
Cavante Turfin and probably one other guy is volume for
this position, the new guy Mango Mingo. I mean, you
(26:53):
guys have to catch the ball. That is gonna be
the difference in you being and that guy that uh
the coach can trust, uh that Dak can trust.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
It was just so obvious yesterday, and yes, you have
to make difficult catches. You have to. You're the third receiver.
You're that guy that at the last minute you get
the oh ball, Oh I'm running out of time, here's
your ball, and you have to be aware and being
in the right place at all times and more importantly
catch the ball. That kind of bothered me yesterday. Out
(27:27):
of all the things of practice, practice was just a
normal good practice and nobody really stood out. But those
drops stood out to me.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
And I think they were contested balls. And Andrew booth
men play on. Yes, a couple of those that native
is termed as drops by Jalen Tors.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Yes, you mean he was around the ball?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
He was, Yes, I mean he was acting. He was
acting a bad boy yesterday.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Man.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
I almost said something not nice, but he was. He
was a bad boy yesterday.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
Man.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
He was around that ball.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
So October, it is your three third receiver. He is
coming off a forty nine forty nine catch season last.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Year and eleven teams with seven coming into camp.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
He's penciled in, penciled in.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
You tell me number one, yes.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Number as the third receiver.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Right. I think it's going to be a rotation in
there on what they're looking for. Yeah, they're trying to.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Throw in the radio.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
The other names Ryan Flinoy sixth round draft pick last year,
Jal seventh round draft pick in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
But again, it depends on what they're trying to accomplish,
because when you hear third receiver, everybody thinks, well, he's
in the slot. Well they use Ceede Lamb in the
slot quite a bit, that's right, So the third receiver
could very well be on the outside.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
My thing is this, I don't want my future to
be in doubt. I would want to know that if
something happening coach said, hey, Mick go in, which is yeah,
you don't. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Hey, Producer
Supreme Mark Nate. I don't want no, I don't want
to be an option third. I want to be the man.
And you know that's what I want to be. You know,
(29:14):
and uh that that's that's not cool. Man. And you
you're trying to make a team and show a new
coaching staff who you are. You know, find your niche.
It's I'd rather be a swing tackle and know that
I'm the swing tackle regardless of what than to be
a starter that may play three games and never play again.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Now you want a triumvirate. Yes, of wide receivers like
Drew Pearson, Tony Hill, and Butcher Johnson.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Thank you that way, your quarterback feels good all the time.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Do you know what I I don't know why this
dawned on me the other day, since you brought up
those guys' names. I was thinking, you know, Pickings and
and Lamb. It's a pretty good deal, yes, right, yes,
And I was thinking, can two guys on the same
team at wide receiver make the Pro Bowl the same year?
(30:07):
So I went through all the Pro Bowls and the
Cowboys have never had two Pro Bowl wide receivers in
the same year, and they've had some really good wide
receivers over the days. And then I want you to
look this up before. Look at the nineteen eighty nineteen
ninety five season, so Mike led the team. I think
(30:30):
it was like one hundred and eleven catches, and you
could have got it in that booking something else.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
I'm looking up if two NFL teams had Oh.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Yeah they have.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Okay, so you know.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
You want me to go over here, go to the
all the yearly results and go to nineteen ninety five
and look at who was the second leading receiver, not
wide receiver, not the second per second leading receiver was
no check right, but wide sixty two.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
Emmett had sixty two. Kevin Williams with thirty eight receptions
your second next wide receiver, and Irvin had one hundred
and eleven hundred eleven.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
I'm telling you guys something.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
And like I said, I went way overboard last week
with a thousand throws. But if they throw two hundred
and fifty times, if they throw two hundred and fifty times,
one hundred and ninety of them, she's going to be
to the wide receive.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
So it was second receiver. How about the third?
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Was gonna say? Guess who the.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Third wide receivers on the the last time the Cowboys
won the Super Bowl in nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
This is unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Your wide receiver catches. Irvin had one hundred eleven catches
for sixteen hundred and three yards and ten touchdowns. Number
two wide receiver Kevin Williams thirty eight two touchdowns. Number
three wide receiver Corey Fleming had six catches for eighty
(32:08):
three yards.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
That's supposed to be supposed to be.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
No commedy did Dion end up with Dion had two
catches for twenty five yards.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Yeah, is it.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Step Frett Williams.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Yeah, Stepfret.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Stepfrett Williams had three catches for twenty.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Eight was a rookie, I think that year.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
You know, that's a great name. I think there are
never there's never been another person named step Frett.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
As a matter of fact. And this is going out
in left field. But I remember at some point, I
think he was a rookie that year and his father
passed away, and I was in the locker room and
Mike goes up to him and says, hey, you need
any money, You need help to get home, or you
(32:55):
get your plane ticket or whatever you need, let me know.
And that behind the scenes, that was Michael Irvin, right.
He was gonna take care of his teammates, right. So anyways, Yeah,
you could have success when you're wait, the running back
is gaining how many yards that year?
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Look, you had it, I know, but I was about
to change topics.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Don't change on me.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Emmett had three hundred seventy seven carries for seventeen hundred
seventy three yards and twenty five touchdowns, and he caught
sixty two passes for seven hundred five yards and five
carriers all right, passes sixty sixty two catch sixty two
I mean for three hundred and seventy five yards and
(33:44):
no touch I had no check and sixty two catches
three seventy five and no touchdown.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
And some idiot out there that calls themselves on, you know,
the guys that does the numbers, uh huh, wants to
devalue running back idiots who listened to that. That's why
Philadelphia is sitting up there with a guy that New
York deem one Worthy and that cost the whole league. Man.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
And if I remember when those seventeen hundred yards were
the franchise single season record until I think.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Those touchdowns came behind lowd left baby.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
Nicky, I have I asked ai Okay to provide us,
to provide us with the last time we had a
team had two wide receivers. Two wide receivers make the
Pro Bowl in the same year. Yes, it is possible
and not uncommon for two wide receivers from the same
(34:42):
NFL team to both be selected for the Pro Bowl.
One example is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers Mike Evans and
Chris Godwin, who were both selected for the twenty twenty
Pro Bowl. Other examples include the Cincinnati Bengals Jamar Chase
and T Higgins and the Miami dollph fans Tyreek Hill
and Jaylen Waddall, as well as the San Francisco forty
(35:03):
nine ers Deebo, Samuel and Brandon.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
I producer Supremes.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
I know, I don't know, I see this is this
is a commentary on AI. Okay, I'm pretty sure that
Evans and Godwin probably did select get selected in twenty twenty.
And then they cite other examples and they don't give
the years and so I which I'm thinking those guys
didn't it didn't.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Have eight people decided not to go to the Pro Bowl,
and then they with fifty choice.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Well they didn't even have season, right, that was COVID
wow that year?
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Yeah Okay, Yeah, Evans and Godwin made it as reserves, okay,
and a.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Lot of guys didn't play.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
You know, if in today's NFL, I would not pay
a receiver more than fifteen million dollars if he's not
gonna catch at least seventy seventy seventy eighty passes. Now
you're gonna pay a guy four million dollars and he
(36:19):
catched thirty five passes. Great, but if you pay a
guy five or six million dollars he come up with
thirty five passes, something wrong. You know, you you make
sure you're paying the right guy man, and have your
coordinator understand who that guy is.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
I saw another interesting thing yesterday. Trayvon Diggs is still
rehabbing right from his nieces. Yes, yeah, and has not
practiced with the team. But I noticed that he was
taking part in some of the walkthroughs. Yeah, so at
(36:56):
least out there making steps, So maybe he's getting a
little bit closer. I talked to Savann Revel and he
felt like he's close, but he he his answer, I said, well,
when do you think he goes? Whenever Britt tells me
I'm ready to go, And he said, that's when I'll
(37:16):
be ready to go. So he he feels like he
was close to really really working out hard. Uh, and
the side steps and you know if you're if you're
a C L and right, you can't do those side steps. So, uh,
those guys are getting closer, which would help out the
cornerback position greatly, especially you know when you look at
(37:41):
Doron Bland is on what is it maternity leave or
whatever they call.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
It official list, but that's what he's going.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Right, he's out, was a waiting birth attorney, attorney whatever.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
All right, I think we're out of time. However, this
is proved, Lair. This is proof once again that your
own research is better than artificial intelligence. That's right, because
two thousand and eight Larry Fitzgerald and and Kwan Bolden
of the Arizona Cardinals both made the Pro Bowl. How
many receptions? Fitzgerald had ninety six catches twelve touchdowns. Bolden
(38:20):
had eighty nine catches eleven touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
That's your season for CD Lamb and George Pickens.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
You'll be happy with that, right.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
I would I wouldn't with two balls.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Cory Fleming treatment, Cory Fleming out.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
All right.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
That does it for an abbreviated edition of mixed shots
on this marine layer. Monday, the sun is breaking through,
it is, and we will have practice this afternoon and
we will shout at you again on Wednesday at eleven am,
Dallas time.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Go oh, cowboys. I was looking at that sexy brought us.
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