December 10, 2025 • 49 mins
With the Lions loss behind them, the guys made sense of the NFL standing and what the Cowboys must do to have a chance to quaoi9fying for the playoffs. Then it was on to Everson’s cover ability but also would he think of returning as Philips Rivers is after being out for five seasons. Then the slow starts, another G.O.A.T. debate and injury updates.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
This is Mick shot streaming live on dallascowboys dot Com
and the official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones,
heckma Harrison, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
It is a back to work Wednesday here at the
Star in Frisco, and welcome in to the SWBC podcast studio.
We got a lot going on behind the scenes here
at the Star. Vikings week is officially underway. Cowboys are
officially back in the playoff race in this NFC Eastern Division.
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Bill Jones, Everson Walls, Heck Maharrison, and the star of
the show, Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
We in the hunt category.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
We're not in the outside looking in.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Yeah, we were hovering, okay.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Every week on Fox pregame show. That Last Bunch has
a different name, right, not out of it.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I don't consider the Cowboys to be in the wild
card hunt, but they are in the division hunt.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
You think that's the only chance, That's what I think.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Then they need to put us on the other side,
that's right. Yeah, we don't need to be.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Over there on the far right. In the other others
receiving votes.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
We're counting on the collapse of the Super Bowl champs, and.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
So far, so good. They lost three in a row.
All they gotta do is duplicate two years ago. But
didn the Cowboys have to duplicate two years ago too,
And that's that's that's an issue it in and out.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
So all three wild card teams right now have nine.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Wins something like that. One might have ten, don't call.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
I think the Packers would be.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Packers are the division leader, division.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Leaders, and the Bears are nine and four. Right the
Seahawks are nine and four. I don't think anybody non
division has ten wins. Okay, eight and five doing off
the top of my head.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
We'll see if you're right.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
And then the two teams in the.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
No, the Seahawks have ten wins, the Seahawks. In the West,
Rams are ten and three. The Seahawks are ten and three,
and then the Niners. Okay, and right now, the Rams
they have the tipebreaker and so they are considered the
division leader. The Seahawks they at ten and three, the
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Niners at nine and four. And over in the North
you've got the Bears at nine and four. So you've
got three teams there. Two of the wild card teams
right now have three more wins than the Cowboys have
and there's only four games left, and and then the
other one has four more wins than the Cowboys have.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
So and if if the well you never know what
happens in the in the Bears and the Packers.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Yeah, that's gonna be they play one more times each other.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Problem is three of the other teams that are ahead
of them that they've already beaten the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
That's the problem right there.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Well, but then again, it's not a problem because the
Cowboys have high that's right. Unless they tie a game,
they're not going to be a tie with any other
team but the Packers.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
So they could be a half game ahead or a
half time.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
That's why those teams, as we talked about, I think
on Monday, those teams have to get to eleven wins
to eliminate the Cowboys. At the Cowboys run the table
and get to ten.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
So if the Eagles would have tied, that would.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
But I definitely think for us right now, I don't
I think it would have been about this. It would
been the same the Eagles would have still had to
split their last four games, and the Cowboys went all
four because the Cowboy We're going to assume that one
of the losses that the Eagles would have would be
against the Commanders. We're going to assume that the Raiders
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are not going to beat the Eagles this week, and
and in that case, the Cowboys would have a better
division record than the Eagles.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
There you go, so so now, but so right now
we are still if you're going to look at non divisional,
we would be almost tied with.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Detroit, correct, but we're behind Detroit, yeah, right.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Behind half a game behind Detroit, right, but we're not
chasing Detroit.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
No, because Detroit's not Detroit's not in right now hovering
yeah with us, And we aren't even mentioning Carolina is
seven and six. They've got a better record than the
Cowboys too. So I forget the while.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Because I just feel ashamed to say that, just to
even say that, what's that Carolina's better than us? Right now?
They got a better record than us. That's just hard
to fathom.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
By one second, that tie, remember thee heard one second.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
But keeping this in mind, history tells us that it
will be a different division winner this year in the
NFC East, because it's been that way all the way
since two thousand and four. We've had a different division
winner every year and the Cowboys are the only.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
One to the God, so sorry God.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Depending on a trend, absolutely, you know, a.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Twenty year trend of a different division winner every year.
So at some point that comes to an end.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
But I don't know why I keep forgetting the Rams
because they're playing amazingly at Matthew Stafford's having a great year.
I was looking at his team like he's got two
number ones as well and wide receive a position. Yeah,
that's pretty.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Amazing, aging an aging wide receiver and pooking the cool.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
He is balling, he is balling. I wish I could
have played against him because I would have to figure
out what does he have?
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Which one are you talking about? Staffern the cool?
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Cool?
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Oh cool cool hook at the cool.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
I'd love to play against him just to see how
good he is, because I mean, he just makes it
look so simple.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Well enough injuries around the league, Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, he's strong, great runner, just telling that, No, no,
that's the one out running.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
I don't worry about the strength. It's the route run.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
It's a lot of guys that can't deal with with
guys that have strength. You know, you're trying to play
him in the phone booth and and he's bumping you off.
You know, you're trying to bump him off his route.
He bumping you out of your cover. So that's all
I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Ever soon as your phone ring, because there's enough injuries
around the league.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Way going around the corner back down, he told you
out of that man, you're only twenty hands.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
That's frail, twenty years older than river.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Oh goodness, next day, maybe.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Hey, and you got better mobility.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
I should have wont my cap in the T shirt.
That's what I should have.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Then you can restart your try for the Pro Football
Hall of Fame all.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Over, right, that would be disappointed?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
What disappoint you?
Speaker 6 (07:23):
That's a great idea present day, that's right.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yes, that's a great idea. Jerry needs sign you just
for the last game of the season and it'll start
your Hall of Fame clock again, and then.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
That would be pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Bill.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Before then you get back in the mix, young kid
talking to myself. Oh guys, we just came through it.
I mean the way you see the way his eyes
lit up. That's real stuff, man, that's a great idea.
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Great idea, man, Bill had an idea. Let's go talk
to Jared.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
All right, shot, do you have a press conference in
Hadn't that it yet?
Speaker 5 (08:14):
Twelve twenty and the players are on out there yet
no one o'clock.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
The tarp is off the field.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Yes it is.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
So we were prepared for football players on a football field.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
The largest days out, sixty degrees. Can't beat it.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Okay, anything that we need to know if we get
started before we hit the rundown, run down.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Before I take that, don't say anything, spags, just say nothing.
Bags run down.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Trying to start on something else.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
I thought we were going to go back to yesterday's rundown.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
There, you can go to Monday. You can go to
Monday before we can.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Go to last week.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah, you know what I mean? Hey, just trying to help,
Just trying to help, that's all. That's all. He's so cute,
it's all good. I'm trying to do.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
But they I genuinely, I genuinely look forward to talking
about none of this. That was the statement that Heck
Mahasson put under his rundown.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
This is Wednesday. What Wednesday means?
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Did he have there that Minnesota's lost for their last
five games?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
No, you bring that up. What a great point making.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
Wow, I just thought i'd throw that.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Out, you know, before running, before running into Washington. You
want to say who those four losses are against. Maybe
that adds a little bit of rude to that conversation.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Baltimore, Chicago, Green Bay, in Seattle. Oh, they played some teams.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Oh Cupcake.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Prior to that though, they beat Detroit a team the
Cowboys loss.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Thigs are getting interesting, But that's something we may need
to talk about. Epicon. How about that they lost.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
To the Chargers.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Prior to that, they lost to the Chargers, right, and
they lost to the Eagles. The Cowboys beat the Eagles.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
So they're in the same boat as the Cowboys. They
still have it won two consecutive games, but the weird
Cowboys finally did three.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Right, They're really there. I guess starting quarterback hadn't been
It wasn't playing throughout that entire time.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Trick exactly right.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
It's just kind of weird. You don't see You don't
see enough McCarthy to really stud him the way you
might want to. I think he played with the first
two games.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Well, he played. He played against Washington this week, okay,
thirty one nothing win. He did not play the week before,
which was the Max Brosmer game twenty six to nothing
with the ugliest pick six you've ever seen that quarterback throw.
Prior to that, he did play the previous week the
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Sunday before Thanksgiving in a twenty three to six loss
at Green Bay. And he played against Chicago the previous
week of nineteen seventeen. Loss to Chicago.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
Yeah, but he's coming off his best perform with three touchdowns.
That's a scene.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
And he played against Baltimore the previous week, so he
get three straight weeks. See, and he played against Detroit,
so he had a stretch there. So early the season opener,
he was awful the first three quarters against Chicago and
then suddenly in the fourth quarter, who's a great comeback
victory proved.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
He was a first round draft choice in my evaluation
of him. Man, I'm just telling you, he's a strong
on quarterback and he's got a cannon. He can throw it.
And obviously, like most young quarterbacks, if you get him
off his platform making move making him throw on the run,
he starts to make mistakes. That's just his mo right now.
But he does have two very good wide receivers in
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Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison. And the secondary struggles that
we've had we talked about. We touched on Savone revel
a little bit, but he has to be better in
this game because of that matchup and the run Bland.
So anytime y'all want to get into it, man, I'm
here for it.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Well, he's got nine touchdowns, ten interceptions mm hm at
this point with those receivers, Yeah, and being hurt and
the games that y'all were just talking about that he missed.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Carson Wentz came in at the point in the season
and was terrible. I love we had heard ing that's breaking.
He was terrible.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
They actually tried to compare this guy to Deck.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah, but it is Justin Jefferson right now. Obviously. Man,
they're having it a down year offensively, not looking the
same as they did in years past.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
No targets. Why aren't they targeting him? Yeah, that's what
I'm trying to figure out. I mean, he had I
think he caught two passes for four yards or something.
I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Against against Baltimore, Chicago, Green Bay in Seattle. Those defenses,
I mean they were all over him and they didn't
give him any quarter, no room. And that's what I'm saying.
That's the that's the key to victory for me, for
Matt eber flus Uh to get pressure up the middle
with with our with our ones, with our guys up front.
So that to me is the game plan.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
So if you're looking at our secondary versus the wide receivers,
I think it's time for for Doran to to really step.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Up time out. He's had one hundred and nine targets Jefferson. Wow,
so they are targeting him.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Accurate?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Yeah, not a target can still be a target on
a pass that's thrown up in the stands right right right.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
That's why targets it is ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
That's still a lot though it is. And for him
to have his figure how many catches does he have?
Speaker 5 (13:36):
Sixty four eight ten two touchdowns?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
It's a down I mean it's a down year. If
you go down, Yeah, it's a down year, especially if
you go back over his career and again, he's still
going to be a problem and you know that they're
going to raise their level to play.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Every time someone plays against the Cowboys. So we can
look forward to Jefferson having a resurgence, uh for this year.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
And I believe it's teaching. Is it hockey?
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Is this?
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
T was a tight end so good.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Forty six catches, three seventy three touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
And don't forget about Jones that they're running back. We
know full well about it. He is this guy, man,
he has been a thorn in our side for a
number of years.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
And and his backup Jordan Mason.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Where's he from? Where's where's Jones? Is he from?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Got to use his you tep?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
But is he a Texas? Kida from Texas? Okay?
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Isn't he Jones?
Speaker 7 (14:30):
He?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
I'm just surprised he was born in Georgia. Born in Georgia. Okay,
there you go.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
But he bought have got to Texas as quick as
he for sure that he was a Texas well.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Josh Oliver leads him with four touchdown catches. Their other tight.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
End they against Washington. Are you struggling Commander's defense? You
think the Cowboys defense has been struggled this year.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
With all those coaches they took from the.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Struggling first two drives of the game. The Vikings they
go for a touchdown the first drive. They go ninety
eight yards for a touchdown on their second possession of
the game, and JJ McCarthy gets back on track, go
sixteen out of twenty three in three touchdown passes, no
picks against Washington last week.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
So he loo liked Marino last week. Let me say
it look good.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
And Dan Quinn took over calling the defense too.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
And Aaron Jones is from l pass He went to Burgess.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
House no half week before the game, a couple a
couple of games ago. I think he took over.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
So he took over for thirty one nothing. Yeah, so lacking.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Yeah, wow, way to go Dan. Yeah, he took over
a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, two or three weeks ago,
and it hadn't helped, not at all. Jimmy's and Joe's.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Now, don't give him an out. Don't you get on
to give him an out. N He is out there.
He is sucking right now and it ain't looking good
for the Commanders. And then the quarterback got hurt in
that game as well. He's out again. Daniels, Jaydan Daniels,
is he out again?
Speaker 3 (16:05):
He has been okay, No, he came and then I
think he did.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
He fell on his arm and they said, if I'm
not mistaken, that it didn't affect it any more than
it was already affected, pretty.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Affected before the way before.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Infected.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
He came back. He came back and it's not worse.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
I mean, at the time he Jayden originally injured it,
it looked like he had lost his arm.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
And then then Mariota, I saw him limping around on
the sidelines, didn't I. Yes, so he is, but he's
still there. Yeah, they starting quarterback at this point. Correct, Well,
I don't.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
I haven't talking about yeah, Washington.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Yeah, this game here, guys, it's a tough game. And
I know where you're coming from. I know where you're
coming from. Heck, because this could be one of those
games if we don't come out here. We come out
here with the attitude that we've had. Let's say, I
always worry about that. That's that team that we had
two years ago that was just amazing on offense and defensively.
We got all the turnovers that we needed, but we
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were not solid in any position, and that's why Green
Bay ran overs. I always feared that attitude coming back
into this building this game, and we've been on We've.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Been after they go after they got their asses whipped.
Who in Detroit and come in with that attitude.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Yeah, well, well they didn't let me say this all
right that game And I said it yesterday. I thought
that game was the best we could play under those situations.
You talk about how badly our defense played. To me,
it was how well that Detroit offense played. It's how
well they were coached in that game. That was one
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of those games where you're not gonna come out of
their pretty I've seen Baltimore and Pittsburgh play games together
and it turned out to be a high scoring game
with great defenses. This was one of those games. I
don't want us to fall back into twenty twenty three. Well,
we had all the talent, but then we disappointed ourselves.
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I want us to play above our heads. And just
because Minnesota has the record that they have, I don't
want us taking them lightly. We need to look at
them as Detroit, we need to look at them as Philadelphia,
we need to look at them as KC. That's how
this We need to play every game from here on out.
And maybe I'm crazy and I hope I am, but
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I just don't want that attitude creeping back into this
building again.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
One of the points that you've been making on the
show is about playing on the road and how they
perform on the road. And if hypothetically, you know, God
willing you make it to the playoffs, you're going to
be playing on the road and pulling out victories versus
opponents like Detroit is going to be important in that
And that's why even in this game when you talk
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about not underestimating them, they have a built in component
that has always victimized you in Aaron Jones Sr. And
stopping to run is foremost in this game versus Minnesota.
I think it's simplistic, but the truth is if you
make them one dimensional, I think Ibra Flus then can
go in his bag and start to try and trick
a young JJ McCarthy versus them being able to run
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the ball on you, and now everything on their menu
is open.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
If we can stop the run, then we can we
can bait them into passing it, and that's where we're
at our strength. That's when Deron Blant steps up and
makes plays. That's when our defense steps up and the
D line makes sacks, so we have to I like that.
We have to keep them one dimensional, because we have.
If they're successful in both ways, then you're looking.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
At what happened in Detroit in the first round of
the playoffs. The Cowboys will be playing at home.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Oh, because you win the division.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
That's right, Bill, That's right, Bill. Let's go back to
the only way we can.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
You're right, you know what, full circle? Full circle? But
how they play when they played at home against Green
Bay and couldn't stop the run with number fourteen playing linebacker.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
And you still had a chance to win the game,
I mean, and not tie it. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
And by the way, but as we go to break here,
as producer, Supreme just notified me there's an update on
Jaden Daniels in Washington. No structural setbacks for Daniels, but
after medical evaluations, the doctors have advised he not play
on Sunday. He'll be reevaluated next week. Of course, this
does relate to the Cowboys because two weeks from tomorrow.
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Two weeks from tomorrow is Christmas Day and the Cowboys
will be playing at the Washington Commanders. Would be interesting
to see if Jade and Daniels plays in that game.
The Cowboys are about to start another stretch of three
games in twelve days for real. Yes, because they got it.
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Speaker 3 (23:51):
Okay, we continue with the mixed shots and and next
thing on now you think we and around about fashion
we hit Minnesota matchups that matter?
Speaker 2 (24:04):
We did?
Speaker 3 (24:04):
We did anything else you like to add to Minnesota
matchups that matter?
Speaker 4 (24:11):
I'll go offensively, man, offensively, how do we match up
against their defense? That I mean we're still averaging what
thirty points?
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Well, that gets us into that's what I'm glad you
brought that up. Either segment two offensive identity check and
how about offensive identity check as it relates to playing
against Brian Flora's defense in the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
And I bet I'm sure Shoddy is looking forward to
this matchup because Brian Flores has made a mini of
offensive coordinator looks bad.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
So do you think he's looking forward to it?
Speaker 5 (24:47):
Is?
Speaker 3 (24:49):
It is a challenge.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
What's a chess match? That's all it is. And obviously
just like us if they make us one dimensional takeaway
Devonte Williams and all we have to rely on is
And I think the biggest question mark in this and
I hadn't heard Mickey say it or not, is Ceedee
Lamb playing on Sunday, because that, I believe changes the
way that you look at this matchup ever since. I mean,
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am I right or wrong?
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Yeah? You're right.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
Did Chottenheimer already answer that question?
Speaker 4 (25:17):
I'm pretty sure CD's ready to go right.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
Opportunity to practice and see suffered today today, so I
would imagine he's limited. But remember when you're in concussion protocol,
you got to do something physically exerting and then come
back the next day without any ramifications.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
So like somebody slap your head like that, don't do that.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
You got to go.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
You've got to go and.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Practice, right, I mean, you get slapped in there.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
They might put pads on today, you never know.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
One thing to know about this Minnesota defense is that
they are really good in the red zone.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
But they have and face the number one offense in
the National Football number one passing offense in the National
Football League going up against the Rams, the third leading
scoring off our team in the.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
National Football So what are you saying, Mack.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
I'm saying that this season one does have some I mean.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
We're going points. Can we stop them.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
From scoring thirty?
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Right?
Speaker 4 (26:25):
There you go, that's what we're saying.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
Or can you get off to a better start, because
I've got a list here in the last five games teams.
The Lions got off to a seventeen to six league,
the Chiefs seven to nothing, Philadelphia twenty one to nothing,
the Raiders three to nothing, Arizona ten to nothing, and
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even go back another one Denver, when the Cowboys actually
scored first with a field goal, ended up trailing fourteen
to three. So if you add all that up, it
comes to seventy two to nine outscored at the start
of games.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Well, and the reason that the Cowboys scored first against
Denver had nothing to do with the offense, That's right.
It had to do with a Trequez Bridges interception on
an errant throw from bow Knicks. And what kept the
Cowboys out of the end zone was a false start
on the one yard by Tyler geyden I remember that one.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Speaking of Tyler Geydon, Jonathan Allen is probably looking forward
to seeing him as well.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
When Jonathan Allen, by the way, now in Minnesota Viking
for years and years of Washington commander.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
You got Gyiton playing then on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I don't. I'm I'm just saying that you have a matchup.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
If he is going to play, if it's Nate Thomas.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Well then then go back to last week and go
back to last week when we were talking about Dak
taking a beating. As we talk about them being number
one and all in that aspect, you have a Minnesota
Vikings defense that clearly is going to come out to
Dack Oh, whether it's Nate are Tyler Geydon.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
And maybe he can still throw for three hundred and
seventy six yards.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Yeah, I just don't want to be on the a
desperate situation.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
Well, just don't fall behind, right, That was much.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
That's usually how you pass for three hundred and seventy
six yards. You fall behind right off the bat.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
It got to start faster, so meaning score immediately, which
is the plan. That's what he wants not to mention
as a defense out there that's trying to kill your quarterback.
So I mean, I'm just going off of what the
last performance was and thinking that Brian Flores. His plan
is going to be put a lot of pressure on Dak.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
So but that ain't no different than what everybody else planned.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Right, if you control Detroit was a little bit more successful.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Yeah, if you control Dak, you control the Cowboys. It's
pretty pretty simple.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yeah, I mean, I guess it is simplistic. But at
the end of the day, every team is scheming up
towards that pressure, and when we can't, we don't make
any adjustments. And we've talked about the Detroit game to
that degree, like what adjustments were made in that game?
And then you have a Brian Floores defense that's not
going to allow you to make a ton of adjustments.
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If he's doing things that you haven't you can't even
script for because he hadn't even shown you. That's what
we were talking about yesterday. So look, I just think
this is a tremendous challenge. We talked about not underestimating them.
Let's not underestimate the fact that they have a defense
that's gonna pressure you.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
They always have been. Their secondary is good. The secondary
secondary is very good.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
The same thing about cousin Steve Right, the Chiefs defense
was going to overwhelm the off who was.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Going to cousin Steve. I was like, who is he
talking about? Okay, I got.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
You, and he's clever.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Why were they going to deal with Chris Jones?
Speaker 3 (29:49):
You know?
Speaker 5 (29:50):
And they did. They still scored thirty one points.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
So I'd rather see our defense control the situation.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Well, absolutely, well, I'd rather see.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
And maybe if you.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
Win, if you win the toss, take the ball. Don't
just fall behind and then you have to pay.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
So have we been winning the toss and giving it
up every time? No?
Speaker 5 (30:14):
No, because sometimes the other team is won, they've made
the copy take the ball. But I think when they've
had the choice, if I had time, it's it's in here.
They tell what they do if they win the toss
that I don't want. I don't I don't like this thing. Well,
if you defer, then you can get too.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
For we don't have a defense.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
You can finish the first half with the ball and
the second half starts with the ball. Well okay, but
I'm now I'm behind because our defense doesn't play well
on opening drives.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
They just don't.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
So you're already down by seven.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
I already I highlighted that. By the way, hang on,
so go back to the Cardinals game. Their first possession
field goal, the Raiders game punt, field goal, field goal,
the Eagles touchdown, touchdown, touchdown. These are their first three
possessions opponents. The opponents Chiefs touchdown, touchdown, and then the
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Lions field goal, punt touchdown.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Let's go.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
Yeah, I just wrote the note you know the whole
here we go. Well, they ought to.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Say that before. They don't say that anymore, no, but they.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
Need to say it before the start of the game.
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
It's time to play.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
I like that when they did that. That was cool.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
So any rote, who's your goat?
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Are you ready?
Speaker 3 (31:44):
I think it's about that time.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
You guys are ready for this, all right?
Speaker 3 (31:48):
So I am going to Wednesday time for who's yours?
Speaker 4 (31:53):
Your goat?
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Goat? All right? So guys, I'm gonna clip that for
me produce a supreme I'm gonna need that at a later.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Date and then you gotta have it.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Well, listen, you guys got to participate online in this
as well. I need to know who's your goat. So
we're going for the third quarterback for who's your goat?
Because that first and second, I think it's going to
get real interesting around here. And ob all right, So
(32:25):
your two quarterbacks to decide from is one quarterback that
is out of Mesa, Arizona played at Arizona State. Mickey,
you already know who I'm talking about. What's his name?
Speaker 5 (32:38):
He played baseball and his.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Name is Danny White? All right, And Danny Whites is
going up against a quarterback that played in Illinois, Northern Illinois,
I believe, played here at the Costolits East. Excuse me,
set a lot of records around here. One Tony Romo.
This is the third. This is going for the third
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quarterback because one and two I believe it's going to
be occupied. Who's your goat, Mickey.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
I need a moment to contemplate deep water.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Oh come on now, I told you i'd be transparent.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Oh, it's easy call for me. Yeah, I think Tony Romo. Okay,
I do ton.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
Despite the fact that Danny White took him to three
straight NFC title games, I would go with Romo.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Hmmm, I'm studying it.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Wow, you guys really are shocking me right now because
I did not believe that you would go with Tony Romeo.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
We needed to be honest, and you are.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
I mean, I'm just and we're always right sure, sure
you are all right? Come on, Bill, you can't sit
you're talking.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Just the numbers thing. Yeah, I just thought that they
had he worked with a lot less than what Tony
Hill had to upside with Danny White had to work with.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Okay, once once Danny lost Drew Pearson, which was early
on in his time as a starting quarterback. Three years
in eighty three season he lost him. He was after
eighty three.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
Drew retired after eighty three, so that was four years,
fourth year.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
As a starter.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
So, guys in the in the chat, it's a lot
of white. So all I see is white, white, white,
not a lot of Romo. Guys, you're on an island
right here.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Maybe they don't like his commentating.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
You think they may have something to with it? Did he?
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Yeah, but he wasn't like Tony. Tony can be a
little bit overwhelming as far as commentating is concerned. Wow,
a lot of I promise you, a lot of people
on there they just know Romo because well, they know
him as a player, but they also look at him
as this commentator who's a little bit over the top.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Three consecutive NFC NFC championships that does not count for
anything when you think about Danny White. I got Danny,
You got Danny. Okay, well I'm going Danny White also.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
So he said you don't count.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
I do count. Now are y'all making me vote?
Speaker 5 (35:35):
Come on now this you gotta vote, right, ask the question.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
You gotta vote. So we're split. I'm gonna chat. It's
up to you.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
And here's the one of the problems is when when
you even when you look at stats, one of the
problems is it's a totally different era for when Romola
as opposed to win Danny played, and so interceptions to touchdowns,
you can't even compare that, you know, because of the
different era. You know White as an and but ever
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since point the talent that White had to play with.
But I mean it was a his record as a
starting quarterback sixty two wins and thirty losses. You win
two thirds of your games, and I think Romo is
like seventy eight and forty nine.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
What so what about winning seasons? Danny White had.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Four Let's see, he was okay, just running through it here,
starting in nineteen eighty twelve and four eighty one, eleven
and four eighty two was the strike season six and three,
eighty three, twelve and four, So there's four straight seasons,
and then eighty four was three and three, split with Yeah,
(36:54):
eighty five was a winning season, ten and four and
that's it. And then eighty six he was four and
two before getting hurt at age thirty four.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Guys, I think according to the chat, we're gonna let
them figure out the deciding vote.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
And the only season with a losing record for Danny
White as a starting quarterback was nineteen eighty seven at
three and six. The only season with a losing record.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Yeah, Danny White gets the vote, so he's he's the
third quarterback there, guys, So that was good.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
Wait, you just ignored that way.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
I didn't ignore them, he said.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
The people online got through the.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Try see here it was it was you two voted,
Romo us too voted. Why so the deciding vote was
right there.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
I mean, kick shots, man got a lot of people listening. Man.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
You asked about winning seasons.
Speaker 5 (37:46):
Did Romo ever have a losing season that he didn't
get hurt?
Speaker 3 (37:51):
He let's see he is. Losing seasons were one in
five and twenty ten. Obviously got hurt that year, eight
and eight, eight and eight, eight and seven, eleven, twelve
and thirteen. Those are not losing seasons, but they're close,
and then twelve and three and twenty fourteen, and then
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he got hurt in twenty fifteen and the three to one,
So basically it's a good question, all right, ten win seasons.
Romo in twenty fourteen went twelve and three, nine, eleven
and five, seven, thirteen and three, and for White it
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was twelve and four, eleven and four, twelve and fourteen,
and he had four seasons with ten or more wins,
and Romo had three with ten or more wins. All right,
that's a very good debate, very good.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
And too bad for eighty six because when he got hurt,
they were six and two going into that Giants.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Game, and that's when the season got eighty six. That's right,
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Speaker 3 (41:56):
Okay, all right, we have breaking news from Ryan Schottenheimer's
press conference. This applied to us by Tommy Yarish. Here
are the updates. Offensive tackle Tyler Guiton is making progress.
Speaker 5 (42:11):
That means he's not not playing, Okay, Okay, so Mickey
will translate.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
Mickey will translate all of these. Tyler making progress. So
Mickey says, not playing. Wide receiver Ceedee Lamb is progressing
nicely and has one or two more things left to
clear concussion protocol.
Speaker 5 (42:38):
So if we got to find out if he practiced
today or not. If he didn't practice, then he's got
two days to clear those two hurdles.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
And you said, you're saying that past tense like they've
already practiced today.
Speaker 5 (42:49):
Well, no, we're gonna go see.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Okay, So when they have practice today, we'll see if
he's out there, then Mickey will update you on.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Twitter what he's doing.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
Corner bread cornerback Cravon Diggs is still in a ramp
up period.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
Quote.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
Ultimately, he's got to show us he's ready to do
everything the right way.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
All right, go ahead, and there you go ahead, and.
Speaker 5 (43:21):
That means he's highly questionable this week, not questionable, highly questionable.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Does that mean this week or next week?
Speaker 5 (43:30):
Also maybe for the rest of the season.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
Okay, Defensive end Jadavion Clowney is expected to return to
practice today and in all in, so there you go.
There are your injury updates. So you're thinking CD if
you were to put.
Speaker 5 (43:51):
A status maybe on it.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
Okay, possibly plays Sunday or is it more probably possibly
Clowney place for sure, and you've got guiding and digs out. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 5 (44:05):
Concussions are now I'm not using this as an example,
but the guy for the Stars do Shane It was
the first week of the season. He suffered a concussion.
He just played the other day. Now, I don't know
if there was something else going on that was more
because it's an upper body injury in the hockey lexicon,
(44:29):
but those those n.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
A lexicon.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
He's flexing his hockey knowledge right now.
Speaker 5 (44:37):
I like it, But concussions. Concussions are different. I had
a retort, but I bit by.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
Yes, wow, all right, start using that word a lexicon.
I don't know when aware I'll be able to use that.
But uh, don't even know.
Speaker 5 (45:01):
Why hockey gets away with that upper body, lower body.
That's all you get.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Mm hm. Well, at this point, if CD isn't able
to play, where's your confidence level in this game? If
he doesn't play from you know what you've seen from Florid,
NOI confidence level, Mick.
Speaker 5 (45:21):
What do the Vikings do against the run?
Speaker 2 (45:25):
What do they do against the run?
Speaker 3 (45:26):
They're pretty They're good.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Yeah, they're pretty good.
Speaker 5 (45:31):
I still think they it's all hands on deck. Yes,
I think they still have an opportunity. I still had
they won without them before, didn't they they have Okay, yeah,
and we.
Speaker 4 (45:44):
Can run the ball on I still think we can
run the ball on most.
Speaker 5 (45:46):
Anyway, here we go, Yeah, do you Liuys Williams. I
just figured this out. He's on pace for like thirteen
hundred yards rushing. I know it's seventeen games, so we
got to put an asterisk in there.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
He started out at fifteen, but.
Speaker 5 (46:04):
He's got if he if he factors out weighs at
now with onenty twenty two, it factors out to thirteen
thirty something, he would be twenty one yards short of
having the fourth most rushing touchdowns in a season in
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twenty five years.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
All right, let me add to that, betch, we've out
of time here. How valuable has he been to this
Cowboys team? Think about where this team would be at
running back without him?
Speaker 4 (46:36):
Yep, yeah?
Speaker 5 (46:38):
Or think about what people thought where they were with
him when they started the season. Williams, Sanders, Deuce, Vaughan, Hunter, Lipke,
Marfa and Blue. That's what they went to training camp.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
But before we go, you gave a stat the other
day about thousand yard rushes the Cowboys have had and
has it been ten straight? Has it been ten straight years?
Ten out of twelve, ten out of straight, ten out
of twelve years that the Cowboys have had a thousand
yard Russia? So does having a thousand yard Russia equate
the way that they used to back in the day
(47:16):
when you were a thousand yard rusher, I mean you're
King of the Hill.
Speaker 4 (47:19):
I don't think it.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Does well, not anymore.
Speaker 5 (47:21):
I mean now you've got an extra game, right, So
that takes away from the day when everybody talked about
thousand yard rushers. It was fourteen games.
Speaker 4 (47:31):
And we ran the ball all the time. You didn't
hardly throw the ball at that time.
Speaker 5 (47:36):
Yeah, no one's thrown the ball.
Speaker 4 (47:37):
Yeah, that was a whole different kind of game at
that time.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
You know what a thousand yards is Over seventeen game season,
it's fifty eight point eight yards a game. Ball in
fifty nine yards a game.
Speaker 5 (47:49):
I think over sixteen it was like seventy.
Speaker 4 (47:52):
Let's be clear, what Javante has done for us this
year has given us balance on offense that doesn't have
the year that he's having unless we're running the ball well.
Our play action is our strength. That looks really good
when he does it. He knows that it's his strength.
And when when they come with the play action, you
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can just tell even this body language is more positive
because it's the blocking is better, he's stepping up better
and he's delivering better passes. So without Javonte and without
this running game, I don't think we have the success
that we would have.
Speaker 5 (48:28):
And he's run for nine touchdowns first of all things.
Speaker 6 (48:33):
Here, okay, the last time Vicky will have that for tomorrow.
We're out of time on this edition of Mixed Shots,
and how about we do it again tomorrow at high noon.
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We got a lot going on behind the scenes here
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Bill Jones, Everson Walls, Heck Maharrison, and the star of
the show, Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
We in the hunt category.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
We're not in the outside looking in.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Yeah, we were hovering, okay.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Every week on Fox pregame show. That Last Bunch has
a different name, right, not out of it.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I don't consider the Cowboys to be in the wild
card hunt, but they are in the division hunt.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
You think that's the only chance, That's what I think.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Then they need to put us on the other side,
that's right. Yeah, we don't need to be.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Over there on the far right. In the other others
receiving votes.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
We're counting on the collapse of the Super Bowl champs, and.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
So far, so good. They lost three in a row.
All they gotta do is duplicate two years ago. But
didn the Cowboys have to duplicate two years ago too,
And that's that's that's an issue it in and out.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
So all three wild card teams right now have nine.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Wins something like that. One might have ten, don't call.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
I think the Packers would be.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Packers are the division leader, division.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Leaders, and the Bears are nine and four. Right the
Seahawks are nine and four. I don't think anybody non
division has ten wins. Okay, eight and five doing off
the top of my head.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
We'll see if you're right.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
And then the two teams in the.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
No, the Seahawks have ten wins, the Seahawks. In the West,
Rams are ten and three. The Seahawks are ten and three,
and then the Niners. Okay, and right now, the Rams
they have the tipebreaker and so they are considered the
division leader. The Seahawks they at ten and three, the
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Niners at nine and four. And over in the North
you've got the Bears at nine and four. So you've
got three teams there. Two of the wild card teams
right now have three more wins than the Cowboys have
and there's only four games left, and and then the
other one has four more wins than the Cowboys have.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
So and if if the well you never know what
happens in the in the Bears and the Packers.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Yeah, that's gonna be they play one more times each other.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Problem is three of the other teams that are ahead
of them that they've already beaten the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
That's the problem right there.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Well, but then again, it's not a problem because the
Cowboys have high that's right. Unless they tie a game,
they're not going to be a tie with any other
team but the Packers.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
So they could be a half game ahead or a
half time.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
That's why those teams, as we talked about, I think
on Monday, those teams have to get to eleven wins
to eliminate the Cowboys. At the Cowboys run the table
and get to ten.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
So if the Eagles would have tied, that would.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
But I definitely think for us right now, I don't
I think it would have been about this. It would
been the same the Eagles would have still had to
split their last four games, and the Cowboys went all
four because the Cowboy We're going to assume that one
of the losses that the Eagles would have would be
against the Commanders. We're going to assume that the Raiders
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are not going to beat the Eagles this week, and
and in that case, the Cowboys would have a better
division record than the Eagles.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
There you go, so so now, but so right now
we are still if you're going to look at non divisional,
we would be almost tied with.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Detroit, correct, but we're behind Detroit, yeah, right.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Behind half a game behind Detroit, right, but we're not
chasing Detroit.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
No, because Detroit's not Detroit's not in right now hovering
yeah with us, And we aren't even mentioning Carolina is
seven and six. They've got a better record than the
Cowboys too. So I forget the while.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Because I just feel ashamed to say that, just to
even say that, what's that Carolina's better than us? Right now?
They got a better record than us. That's just hard
to fathom.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
By one second, that tie, remember thee heard one second.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
But keeping this in mind, history tells us that it
will be a different division winner this year in the
NFC East, because it's been that way all the way
since two thousand and four. We've had a different division
winner every year and the Cowboys are the only.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
One to the God, so sorry God.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Depending on a trend, absolutely, you know, a.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Twenty year trend of a different division winner every year.
So at some point that comes to an end.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
But I don't know why I keep forgetting the Rams
because they're playing amazingly at Matthew Stafford's having a great year.
I was looking at his team like he's got two
number ones as well and wide receive a position. Yeah,
that's pretty.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Amazing, aging an aging wide receiver and pooking the cool.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
He is balling, he is balling. I wish I could
have played against him because I would have to figure
out what does he have?
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Which one are you talking about? Staffern the cool?
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Cool?
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Oh cool cool hook at the cool.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
I'd love to play against him just to see how
good he is, because I mean, he just makes it
look so simple.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Well enough injuries around the league, Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, he's strong, great runner, just telling that, No, no,
that's the one out running.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
I don't worry about the strength. It's the route run.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
It's a lot of guys that can't deal with with
guys that have strength. You know, you're trying to play
him in the phone booth and and he's bumping you off.
You know, you're trying to bump him off his route.
He bumping you out of your cover. So that's all
I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Ever soon as your phone ring, because there's enough injuries
around the league.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Way going around the corner back down, he told you
out of that man, you're only twenty hands.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
That's frail, twenty years older than river.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Oh goodness, next day, maybe.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Hey, and you got better mobility.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
I should have wont my cap in the T shirt.
That's what I should have.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Then you can restart your try for the Pro Football
Hall of Fame all.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Over, right, that would be disappointed?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
What disappoint you?
Speaker 6 (07:23):
That's a great idea present day, that's right.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yes, that's a great idea. Jerry needs sign you just
for the last game of the season and it'll start
your Hall of Fame clock again, and then.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
That would be pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Bill.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Before then you get back in the mix, young kid
talking to myself. Oh guys, we just came through it.
I mean the way you see the way his eyes
lit up. That's real stuff, man, that's a great idea.
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Great idea, man, Bill had an idea. Let's go talk
to Jared.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
All right, shot, do you have a press conference in
Hadn't that it yet?
Speaker 5 (08:14):
Twelve twenty and the players are on out there yet
no one o'clock.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
The tarp is off the field.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Yes it is.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
So we were prepared for football players on a football field.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
The largest days out, sixty degrees. Can't beat it.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Okay, anything that we need to know if we get
started before we hit the rundown, run down.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Before I take that, don't say anything, spags, just say nothing.
Bags run down.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Trying to start on something else.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
I thought we were going to go back to yesterday's rundown.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
There, you can go to Monday. You can go to
Monday before we can.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Go to last week.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah, you know what I mean? Hey, just trying to help,
Just trying to help, that's all. That's all. He's so cute,
it's all good. I'm trying to do.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
But they I genuinely, I genuinely look forward to talking
about none of this. That was the statement that Heck
Mahasson put under his rundown.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
This is Wednesday. What Wednesday means?
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Did he have there that Minnesota's lost for their last
five games?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
No, you bring that up. What a great point making.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
Wow, I just thought i'd throw that.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Out, you know, before running, before running into Washington. You
want to say who those four losses are against. Maybe
that adds a little bit of rude to that conversation.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Baltimore, Chicago, Green Bay, in Seattle. Oh, they played some teams.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Oh Cupcake.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Prior to that though, they beat Detroit a team the
Cowboys loss.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Thigs are getting interesting, But that's something we may need
to talk about. Epicon. How about that they lost.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
To the Chargers.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Prior to that, they lost to the Chargers, right, and
they lost to the Eagles. The Cowboys beat the Eagles.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
So they're in the same boat as the Cowboys. They
still have it won two consecutive games, but the weird
Cowboys finally did three.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Right, They're really there. I guess starting quarterback hadn't been
It wasn't playing throughout that entire time.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Trick exactly right.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
It's just kind of weird. You don't see You don't
see enough McCarthy to really stud him the way you
might want to. I think he played with the first
two games.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Well, he played. He played against Washington this week, okay,
thirty one nothing win. He did not play the week before,
which was the Max Brosmer game twenty six to nothing
with the ugliest pick six you've ever seen that quarterback throw.
Prior to that, he did play the previous week the
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Sunday before Thanksgiving in a twenty three to six loss
at Green Bay. And he played against Chicago the previous
week of nineteen seventeen. Loss to Chicago.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
Yeah, but he's coming off his best perform with three touchdowns.
That's a scene.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
And he played against Baltimore the previous week, so he
get three straight weeks. See, and he played against Detroit,
so he had a stretch there. So early the season opener,
he was awful the first three quarters against Chicago and
then suddenly in the fourth quarter, who's a great comeback
victory proved.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
He was a first round draft choice in my evaluation
of him. Man, I'm just telling you, he's a strong
on quarterback and he's got a cannon. He can throw it.
And obviously, like most young quarterbacks, if you get him
off his platform making move making him throw on the run,
he starts to make mistakes. That's just his mo right now.
But he does have two very good wide receivers in
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Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison. And the secondary struggles that
we've had we talked about. We touched on Savone revel
a little bit, but he has to be better in
this game because of that matchup and the run Bland.
So anytime y'all want to get into it, man, I'm
here for it.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Well, he's got nine touchdowns, ten interceptions mm hm at
this point with those receivers, Yeah, and being hurt and
the games that y'all were just talking about that he missed.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Carson Wentz came in at the point in the season
and was terrible. I love we had heard ing that's breaking.
He was terrible.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
They actually tried to compare this guy to Deck.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah, but it is Justin Jefferson right now. Obviously. Man,
they're having it a down year offensively, not looking the
same as they did in years past.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
No targets. Why aren't they targeting him? Yeah, that's what
I'm trying to figure out. I mean, he had I
think he caught two passes for four yards or something.
I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Against against Baltimore, Chicago, Green Bay in Seattle. Those defenses,
I mean they were all over him and they didn't
give him any quarter, no room. And that's what I'm saying.
That's the that's the key to victory for me, for
Matt eber flus Uh to get pressure up the middle
with with our with our ones, with our guys up front.
So that to me is the game plan.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
So if you're looking at our secondary versus the wide receivers,
I think it's time for for Doran to to really step.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Up time out. He's had one hundred and nine targets Jefferson. Wow,
so they are targeting him.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Accurate?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Yeah, not a target can still be a target on
a pass that's thrown up in the stands right right right.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
That's why targets it is ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
That's still a lot though it is. And for him
to have his figure how many catches does he have?
Speaker 5 (13:36):
Sixty four eight ten two touchdowns?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
It's a down I mean it's a down year. If
you go down, Yeah, it's a down year, especially if
you go back over his career and again, he's still
going to be a problem and you know that they're
going to raise their level to play.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Every time someone plays against the Cowboys. So we can
look forward to Jefferson having a resurgence, uh for this year.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
And I believe it's teaching. Is it hockey?
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Is this?
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
T was a tight end so good.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Forty six catches, three seventy three touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
And don't forget about Jones that they're running back. We
know full well about it. He is this guy, man,
he has been a thorn in our side for a
number of years.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
And and his backup Jordan Mason.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Where's he from? Where's where's Jones? Is he from?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Got to use his you tep?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
But is he a Texas? Kida from Texas? Okay?
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Isn't he Jones?
Speaker 7 (14:30):
He?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
I'm just surprised he was born in Georgia. Born in Georgia. Okay,
there you go.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
But he bought have got to Texas as quick as
he for sure that he was a Texas well.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Josh Oliver leads him with four touchdown catches. Their other tight.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
End they against Washington. Are you struggling Commander's defense? You
think the Cowboys defense has been struggled this year.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
With all those coaches they took from the.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Struggling first two drives of the game. The Vikings they
go for a touchdown the first drive. They go ninety
eight yards for a touchdown on their second possession of
the game, and JJ McCarthy gets back on track, go
sixteen out of twenty three in three touchdown passes, no
picks against Washington last week.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
So he loo liked Marino last week. Let me say
it look good.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
And Dan Quinn took over calling the defense too.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
And Aaron Jones is from l pass He went to Burgess.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
House no half week before the game, a couple a
couple of games ago. I think he took over.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
So he took over for thirty one nothing. Yeah, so lacking.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Yeah, wow, way to go Dan. Yeah, he took over
a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, two or three weeks ago,
and it hadn't helped, not at all. Jimmy's and Joe's.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Now, don't give him an out. Don't you get on
to give him an out. N He is out there.
He is sucking right now and it ain't looking good
for the Commanders. And then the quarterback got hurt in
that game as well. He's out again. Daniels, Jaydan Daniels,
is he out again?
Speaker 3 (16:05):
He has been okay, No, he came and then I
think he did.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
He fell on his arm and they said, if I'm
not mistaken, that it didn't affect it any more than
it was already affected, pretty.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Affected before the way before.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Infected.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
He came back. He came back and it's not worse.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
I mean, at the time he Jayden originally injured it,
it looked like he had lost his arm.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
And then then Mariota, I saw him limping around on
the sidelines, didn't I. Yes, so he is, but he's
still there. Yeah, they starting quarterback at this point. Correct, Well,
I don't.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
I haven't talking about yeah, Washington.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Yeah, this game here, guys, it's a tough game. And
I know where you're coming from. I know where you're
coming from. Heck, because this could be one of those
games if we don't come out here. We come out
here with the attitude that we've had. Let's say, I
always worry about that. That's that team that we had
two years ago that was just amazing on offense and defensively.
We got all the turnovers that we needed, but we
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were not solid in any position, and that's why Green
Bay ran overs. I always feared that attitude coming back
into this building this game, and we've been on We've.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Been after they go after they got their asses whipped.
Who in Detroit and come in with that attitude.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Yeah, well, well they didn't let me say this all
right that game And I said it yesterday. I thought
that game was the best we could play under those situations.
You talk about how badly our defense played. To me,
it was how well that Detroit offense played. It's how
well they were coached in that game. That was one
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of those games where you're not gonna come out of
their pretty I've seen Baltimore and Pittsburgh play games together
and it turned out to be a high scoring game
with great defenses. This was one of those games. I
don't want us to fall back into twenty twenty three. Well,
we had all the talent, but then we disappointed ourselves.
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I want us to play above our heads. And just
because Minnesota has the record that they have, I don't
want us taking them lightly. We need to look at
them as Detroit, we need to look at them as Philadelphia,
we need to look at them as KC. That's how
this We need to play every game from here on out.
And maybe I'm crazy and I hope I am, but
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I just don't want that attitude creeping back into this
building again.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
One of the points that you've been making on the
show is about playing on the road and how they
perform on the road. And if hypothetically, you know, God
willing you make it to the playoffs, you're going to
be playing on the road and pulling out victories versus
opponents like Detroit is going to be important in that
And that's why even in this game when you talk
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about not underestimating them, they have a built in component
that has always victimized you in Aaron Jones Sr. And
stopping to run is foremost in this game versus Minnesota.
I think it's simplistic, but the truth is if you
make them one dimensional, I think Ibra Flus then can
go in his bag and start to try and trick
a young JJ McCarthy versus them being able to run
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the ball on you, and now everything on their menu
is open.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
If we can stop the run, then we can we
can bait them into passing it, and that's where we're
at our strength. That's when Deron Blant steps up and
makes plays. That's when our defense steps up and the
D line makes sacks, so we have to I like that.
We have to keep them one dimensional, because we have.
If they're successful in both ways, then you're looking.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
At what happened in Detroit in the first round of
the playoffs. The Cowboys will be playing at home.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Oh, because you win the division.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
That's right, Bill, That's right, Bill. Let's go back to
the only way we can.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
You're right, you know what, full circle? Full circle? But
how they play when they played at home against Green
Bay and couldn't stop the run with number fourteen playing linebacker.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
And you still had a chance to win the game,
I mean, and not tie it. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
And by the way, but as we go to break here,
as producer, Supreme just notified me there's an update on
Jaden Daniels in Washington. No structural setbacks for Daniels, but
after medical evaluations, the doctors have advised he not play
on Sunday. He'll be reevaluated next week. Of course, this
does relate to the Cowboys because two weeks from tomorrow.
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Two weeks from tomorrow is Christmas Day and the Cowboys
will be playing at the Washington Commanders. Would be interesting
to see if Jade and Daniels plays in that game.
The Cowboys are about to start another stretch of three
games in twelve days for real. Yes, because they got it.
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Speaker 5 (21:08):
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Speaker 3 (23:51):
Okay, we continue with the mixed shots and and next
thing on now you think we and around about fashion
we hit Minnesota matchups that matter?
Speaker 2 (24:04):
We did?
Speaker 3 (24:04):
We did anything else you like to add to Minnesota
matchups that matter?
Speaker 4 (24:11):
I'll go offensively, man, offensively, how do we match up
against their defense? That I mean we're still averaging what
thirty points?
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Well, that gets us into that's what I'm glad you
brought that up. Either segment two offensive identity check and
how about offensive identity check as it relates to playing
against Brian Flora's defense in the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
And I bet I'm sure Shoddy is looking forward to
this matchup because Brian Flores has made a mini of
offensive coordinator looks bad.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
So do you think he's looking forward to it?
Speaker 5 (24:47):
Is?
Speaker 3 (24:49):
It is a challenge.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
What's a chess match? That's all it is. And obviously
just like us if they make us one dimensional takeaway
Devonte Williams and all we have to rely on is
And I think the biggest question mark in this and
I hadn't heard Mickey say it or not, is Ceedee
Lamb playing on Sunday, because that, I believe changes the
way that you look at this matchup ever since. I mean,
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am I right or wrong?
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Yeah? You're right.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
Did Chottenheimer already answer that question?
Speaker 4 (25:17):
I'm pretty sure CD's ready to go right.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
Opportunity to practice and see suffered today today, so I
would imagine he's limited. But remember when you're in concussion protocol,
you got to do something physically exerting and then come
back the next day without any ramifications.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
So like somebody slap your head like that, don't do that.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
You got to go.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
You've got to go and.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Practice, right, I mean, you get slapped in there.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
They might put pads on today, you never know.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
One thing to know about this Minnesota defense is that
they are really good in the red zone.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
But they have and face the number one offense in
the National Football number one passing offense in the National
Football League going up against the Rams, the third leading
scoring off our team in the.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
National Football So what are you saying, Mack.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
I'm saying that this season one does have some I mean.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
We're going points. Can we stop them.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
From scoring thirty?
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Right?
Speaker 4 (26:25):
There you go, that's what we're saying.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
Or can you get off to a better start, because
I've got a list here in the last five games teams.
The Lions got off to a seventeen to six league,
the Chiefs seven to nothing, Philadelphia twenty one to nothing,
the Raiders three to nothing, Arizona ten to nothing, and
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even go back another one Denver, when the Cowboys actually
scored first with a field goal, ended up trailing fourteen
to three. So if you add all that up, it
comes to seventy two to nine outscored at the start
of games.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Well, and the reason that the Cowboys scored first against
Denver had nothing to do with the offense, That's right.
It had to do with a Trequez Bridges interception on
an errant throw from bow Knicks. And what kept the
Cowboys out of the end zone was a false start
on the one yard by Tyler geyden I remember that one.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Speaking of Tyler Geydon, Jonathan Allen is probably looking forward
to seeing him as well.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
When Jonathan Allen, by the way, now in Minnesota Viking
for years and years of Washington commander.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
You got Gyiton playing then on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I don't. I'm I'm just saying that you have a matchup.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
If he is going to play, if it's Nate Thomas.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Well then then go back to last week and go
back to last week when we were talking about Dak
taking a beating. As we talk about them being number
one and all in that aspect, you have a Minnesota
Vikings defense that clearly is going to come out to
Dack Oh, whether it's Nate are Tyler Geydon.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
And maybe he can still throw for three hundred and
seventy six yards.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Yeah, I just don't want to be on the a
desperate situation.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
Well, just don't fall behind, right, That was much.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
That's usually how you pass for three hundred and seventy
six yards. You fall behind right off the bat.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
It got to start faster, so meaning score immediately, which
is the plan. That's what he wants not to mention
as a defense out there that's trying to kill your quarterback.
So I mean, I'm just going off of what the
last performance was and thinking that Brian Flores. His plan
is going to be put a lot of pressure on Dak.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
So but that ain't no different than what everybody else planned.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Right, if you control Detroit was a little bit more successful.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Yeah, if you control Dak, you control the Cowboys. It's
pretty pretty simple.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yeah, I mean, I guess it is simplistic. But at
the end of the day, every team is scheming up
towards that pressure, and when we can't, we don't make
any adjustments. And we've talked about the Detroit game to
that degree, like what adjustments were made in that game?
And then you have a Brian Floores defense that's not
going to allow you to make a ton of adjustments.
(29:13):
If he's doing things that you haven't you can't even
script for because he hadn't even shown you. That's what
we were talking about yesterday. So look, I just think
this is a tremendous challenge. We talked about not underestimating them.
Let's not underestimate the fact that they have a defense
that's gonna pressure you.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
They always have been. Their secondary is good. The secondary
secondary is very good.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
The same thing about cousin Steve Right, the Chiefs defense
was going to overwhelm the off who was.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Going to cousin Steve. I was like, who is he
talking about? Okay, I got.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
You, and he's clever.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Why were they going to deal with Chris Jones?
Speaker 3 (29:49):
You know?
Speaker 5 (29:50):
And they did. They still scored thirty one points.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
So I'd rather see our defense control the situation.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Well, absolutely, well, I'd rather see.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
And maybe if you.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
Win, if you win the toss, take the ball. Don't
just fall behind and then you have to pay.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
So have we been winning the toss and giving it
up every time? No?
Speaker 5 (30:14):
No, because sometimes the other team is won, they've made
the copy take the ball. But I think when they've
had the choice, if I had time, it's it's in here.
They tell what they do if they win the toss
that I don't want. I don't I don't like this thing. Well,
if you defer, then you can get too.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
For we don't have a defense.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
You can finish the first half with the ball and
the second half starts with the ball. Well okay, but
I'm now I'm behind because our defense doesn't play well
on opening drives.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
They just don't.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
So you're already down by seven.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
I already I highlighted that. By the way, hang on,
so go back to the Cardinals game. Their first possession
field goal, the Raiders game punt, field goal, field goal,
the Eagles touchdown, touchdown, touchdown. These are their first three
possessions opponents. The opponents Chiefs touchdown, touchdown, and then the
(31:19):
Lions field goal, punt touchdown.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Let's go.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
Yeah, I just wrote the note you know the whole
here we go. Well, they ought to.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Say that before. They don't say that anymore, no, but they.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
Need to say it before the start of the game.
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
It's time to play.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
I like that when they did that. That was cool.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
So any rote, who's your goat?
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Are you ready?
Speaker 3 (31:44):
I think it's about that time.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
You guys are ready for this, all right?
Speaker 3 (31:48):
So I am going to Wednesday time for who's yours?
Speaker 4 (31:53):
Your goat?
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Goat? All right? So guys, I'm gonna clip that for
me produce a supreme I'm gonna need that at a later.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Date and then you gotta have it.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Well, listen, you guys got to participate online in this
as well. I need to know who's your goat. So
we're going for the third quarterback for who's your goat?
Because that first and second, I think it's going to
get real interesting around here. And ob all right, So
(32:25):
your two quarterbacks to decide from is one quarterback that
is out of Mesa, Arizona played at Arizona State. Mickey,
you already know who I'm talking about. What's his name?
Speaker 5 (32:38):
He played baseball and his.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Name is Danny White? All right, And Danny Whites is
going up against a quarterback that played in Illinois, Northern Illinois,
I believe, played here at the Costolits East. Excuse me,
set a lot of records around here. One Tony Romo.
This is the third. This is going for the third
(33:02):
quarterback because one and two I believe it's going to
be occupied. Who's your goat, Mickey.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
I need a moment to contemplate deep water.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Oh come on now, I told you i'd be transparent.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Oh, it's easy call for me. Yeah, I think Tony Romo. Okay,
I do ton.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
Despite the fact that Danny White took him to three
straight NFC title games, I would go with Romo.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Hmmm, I'm studying it.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Wow, you guys really are shocking me right now because
I did not believe that you would go with Tony Romeo.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
We needed to be honest, and you are.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
I mean, I'm just and we're always right sure, sure
you are all right? Come on, Bill, you can't sit
you're talking.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Just the numbers thing. Yeah, I just thought that they
had he worked with a lot less than what Tony
Hill had to upside with Danny White had to work with.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Okay, once once Danny lost Drew Pearson, which was early
on in his time as a starting quarterback. Three years
in eighty three season he lost him. He was after
eighty three.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
Drew retired after eighty three, so that was four years,
fourth year.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
As a starter.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
So, guys in the in the chat, it's a lot
of white. So all I see is white, white, white,
not a lot of Romo. Guys, you're on an island
right here.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Maybe they don't like his commentating.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
You think they may have something to with it? Did he?
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Yeah, but he wasn't like Tony. Tony can be a
little bit overwhelming as far as commentating is concerned. Wow,
a lot of I promise you, a lot of people
on there they just know Romo because well, they know
him as a player, but they also look at him
as this commentator who's a little bit over the top.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Three consecutive NFC NFC championships that does not count for
anything when you think about Danny White. I got Danny,
You got Danny. Okay, well I'm going Danny White also.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
So he said you don't count.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
I do count. Now are y'all making me vote?
Speaker 5 (35:35):
Come on now this you gotta vote, right, ask the question.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
You gotta vote. So we're split. I'm gonna chat. It's
up to you.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
And here's the one of the problems is when when
you even when you look at stats, one of the
problems is it's a totally different era for when Romola
as opposed to win Danny played, and so interceptions to touchdowns,
you can't even compare that, you know, because of the
different era. You know White as an and but ever
(36:09):
since point the talent that White had to play with.
But I mean it was a his record as a
starting quarterback sixty two wins and thirty losses. You win
two thirds of your games, and I think Romo is
like seventy eight and forty nine.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
What so what about winning seasons? Danny White had.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Four Let's see, he was okay, just running through it here,
starting in nineteen eighty twelve and four eighty one, eleven
and four eighty two was the strike season six and three,
eighty three, twelve and four, So there's four straight seasons,
and then eighty four was three and three, split with Yeah,
(36:54):
eighty five was a winning season, ten and four and
that's it. And then eighty six he was four and
two before getting hurt at age thirty four.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Guys, I think according to the chat, we're gonna let
them figure out the deciding vote.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
And the only season with a losing record for Danny
White as a starting quarterback was nineteen eighty seven at
three and six. The only season with a losing record.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Yeah, Danny White gets the vote, so he's he's the
third quarterback there, guys, So that was good.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
Wait, you just ignored that way.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
I didn't ignore them, he said.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
The people online got through the.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Try see here it was it was you two voted,
Romo us too voted. Why so the deciding vote was
right there.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
I mean, kick shots, man got a lot of people listening. Man.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
You asked about winning seasons.
Speaker 5 (37:46):
Did Romo ever have a losing season that he didn't
get hurt?
Speaker 3 (37:51):
He let's see he is. Losing seasons were one in
five and twenty ten. Obviously got hurt that year, eight
and eight, eight and eight, eight and seven, eleven, twelve
and thirteen. Those are not losing seasons, but they're close,
and then twelve and three and twenty fourteen, and then
(38:12):
he got hurt in twenty fifteen and the three to one,
So basically it's a good question, all right, ten win seasons.
Romo in twenty fourteen went twelve and three, nine, eleven
and five, seven, thirteen and three, and for White it
(38:32):
was twelve and four, eleven and four, twelve and fourteen,
and he had four seasons with ten or more wins,
and Romo had three with ten or more wins. All right,
that's a very good debate, very good.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
And too bad for eighty six because when he got hurt,
they were six and two going into that Giants.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Game, and that's when the season got eighty six. That's right,
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Speaker 3 (41:56):
Okay, all right, we have breaking news from Ryan Schottenheimer's
press conference. This applied to us by Tommy Yarish. Here
are the updates. Offensive tackle Tyler Guiton is making progress.
Speaker 5 (42:11):
That means he's not not playing, Okay, Okay, so Mickey
will translate.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
Mickey will translate all of these. Tyler making progress. So
Mickey says, not playing. Wide receiver Ceedee Lamb is progressing
nicely and has one or two more things left to
clear concussion protocol.
Speaker 5 (42:38):
So if we got to find out if he practiced
today or not. If he didn't practice, then he's got
two days to clear those two hurdles.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
And you said, you're saying that past tense like they've
already practiced today.
Speaker 5 (42:49):
Well, no, we're gonna go see.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Okay, So when they have practice today, we'll see if
he's out there, then Mickey will update you on.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Twitter what he's doing.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
Corner bread cornerback Cravon Diggs is still in a ramp
up period.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
Quote.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
Ultimately, he's got to show us he's ready to do
everything the right way.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
All right, go ahead, and there you go ahead, and.
Speaker 5 (43:21):
That means he's highly questionable this week, not questionable, highly questionable.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Does that mean this week or next week?
Speaker 5 (43:30):
Also maybe for the rest of the season.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
Okay, Defensive end Jadavion Clowney is expected to return to
practice today and in all in, so there you go.
There are your injury updates. So you're thinking CD if
you were to put.
Speaker 5 (43:51):
A status maybe on it.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
Okay, possibly plays Sunday or is it more probably possibly
Clowney place for sure, and you've got guiding and digs out. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 5 (44:05):
Concussions are now I'm not using this as an example,
but the guy for the Stars do Shane It was
the first week of the season. He suffered a concussion.
He just played the other day. Now, I don't know
if there was something else going on that was more
because it's an upper body injury in the hockey lexicon,
(44:29):
but those those n.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
A lexicon.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
He's flexing his hockey knowledge right now.
Speaker 5 (44:37):
I like it, But concussions. Concussions are different. I had
a retort, but I bit by.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
Yes, wow, all right, start using that word a lexicon.
I don't know when aware I'll be able to use that.
But uh, don't even know.
Speaker 5 (45:01):
Why hockey gets away with that upper body, lower body.
That's all you get.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Mm hm. Well, at this point, if CD isn't able
to play, where's your confidence level in this game? If
he doesn't play from you know what you've seen from Florid,
NOI confidence level, Mick.
Speaker 5 (45:21):
What do the Vikings do against the run?
Speaker 2 (45:25):
What do they do against the run?
Speaker 3 (45:26):
They're pretty They're good.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Yeah, they're pretty good.
Speaker 5 (45:31):
I still think they it's all hands on deck. Yes,
I think they still have an opportunity. I still had
they won without them before, didn't they they have Okay, yeah,
and we.
Speaker 4 (45:44):
Can run the ball on I still think we can
run the ball on most.
Speaker 5 (45:46):
Anyway, here we go, Yeah, do you Liuys Williams. I
just figured this out. He's on pace for like thirteen
hundred yards rushing. I know it's seventeen games, so we
got to put an asterisk in there.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
He started out at fifteen, but.
Speaker 5 (46:04):
He's got if he if he factors out weighs at
now with onenty twenty two, it factors out to thirteen
thirty something, he would be twenty one yards short of
having the fourth most rushing touchdowns in a season in
(46:25):
twenty five years.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
All right, let me add to that, betch, we've out
of time here. How valuable has he been to this
Cowboys team? Think about where this team would be at
running back without him?
Speaker 4 (46:36):
Yep, yeah?
Speaker 5 (46:38):
Or think about what people thought where they were with
him when they started the season. Williams, Sanders, Deuce, Vaughan, Hunter, Lipke,
Marfa and Blue. That's what they went to training camp.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
But before we go, you gave a stat the other
day about thousand yard rushes the Cowboys have had and
has it been ten straight? Has it been ten straight years?
Ten out of twelve, ten out of straight, ten out
of twelve years that the Cowboys have had a thousand
yard Russia? So does having a thousand yard Russia equate
the way that they used to back in the day
(47:16):
when you were a thousand yard rusher, I mean you're
King of the Hill.
Speaker 4 (47:19):
I don't think it.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Does well, not anymore.
Speaker 5 (47:21):
I mean now you've got an extra game, right, So
that takes away from the day when everybody talked about
thousand yard rushers. It was fourteen games.
Speaker 4 (47:31):
And we ran the ball all the time. You didn't
hardly throw the ball at that time.
Speaker 5 (47:36):
Yeah, no one's thrown the ball.
Speaker 4 (47:37):
Yeah, that was a whole different kind of game at
that time.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
You know what a thousand yards is Over seventeen game season,
it's fifty eight point eight yards a game. Ball in
fifty nine yards a game.
Speaker 5 (47:49):
I think over sixteen it was like seventy.
Speaker 4 (47:52):
Let's be clear, what Javante has done for us this
year has given us balance on offense that doesn't have
the year that he's having unless we're running the ball well.
Our play action is our strength. That looks really good
when he does it. He knows that it's his strength.
And when when they come with the play action, you
(48:13):
can just tell even this body language is more positive
because it's the blocking is better, he's stepping up better
and he's delivering better passes. So without Javonte and without
this running game, I don't think we have the success
that we would have.
Speaker 5 (48:28):
And he's run for nine touchdowns first of all things.
Speaker 6 (48:33):
Here, okay, the last time Vicky will have that for tomorrow.
We're out of time on this edition of Mixed Shots,
and how about we do it again tomorrow at high noon.
Speaker 4 (48:47):
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