October 6, 2025 • 51 mins
The Cowboys go on the road to win their second game of the season in going-away fashion, with much credit to the offensive, injuries causing four backups to start. You’d have never known. Then the Flournoy effect, Javonte Williams continuing to impress and for a change the defense making key plays.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Now Here are Bill Jones, Heckma Harrison, Everson, Wolves, and
Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 5 (00:34):
Go, Dallas Cowboy.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Step, let's work.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
It's a victory Monday. Victory formation.
Speaker 6 (01:11):
Like that?
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Why did you tell us, Okay, I'm synchronize here all right,
time to get in victory formation.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, we don't ever do that.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Ever said, were you jealous of the offensive lineman?
Speaker 7 (01:33):
And come on?
Speaker 5 (01:35):
What did was? It wasn't victory formation, it was every formation?
Speaker 7 (01:38):
Then what did I pick? What did I pick? Picked?
The click? Offensive line?
Speaker 5 (01:44):
We have to start there.
Speaker 7 (01:45):
Well you brought up offensive line. That's my Oh that
was your pick.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Off the line.
Speaker 7 (01:52):
And what did they do?
Speaker 6 (01:53):
They played there behind That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
I told you unbelievable. I told you what we had
to do. If look man and.
Speaker 7 (02:05):
Let me let me just what help me in That.
Speaker 6 (02:08):
Was incredible because hey, they needed to play like that
to pull off a victory like that.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
And I don't care who you are. You just got
to be honest with yourself.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
You came into Sunday right right around eleven forty one.
You were like, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Eleven your stomach started, Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Four eighty percent of the starting offensive line. It was a.
Speaker 8 (02:34):
Howard to one shot you took.
Speaker 7 (02:36):
That's right, it was.
Speaker 8 (02:37):
None of it made sense.
Speaker 7 (02:39):
I don't know, man, this team just tell you.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
You have our picture, Crick, I tell you right now.
Let me just say right off the bat that I won.
I got distracted by Mickey when he said something about
the tight ends and I went with, yeah, you went
with foe.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
And got you picked the wrong You pick?
Speaker 7 (02:57):
Why would he pick that one of all people?
Speaker 8 (03:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (03:02):
The league, but what you.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
Know who I was gonna pick? And I texted Mickey
later of the next was it? The next day when
Jalen Brooks and Jay and Jalen Cropper were both elevated
for the practice squad, I said, Ryan Illinois, it.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
Don't count if you don't know he didn't have phone,
We didn't.
Speaker 8 (03:26):
I still get intent.
Speaker 7 (03:31):
Right there. We considered it.
Speaker 8 (03:35):
You act like I'm in a third world.
Speaker 7 (03:37):
You are in the third world. That's exactly what that is.
The third world. I couldn't wait for this.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
First of all, I counted you out right away talking
about freaking spam for it. Then this guy talking about Aubrey.
He missed his first extra point? Right, you had Aubrey?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
He did?
Speaker 7 (03:53):
I did? Yeah, you know what?
Speaker 5 (03:55):
He had Brandon off.
Speaker 8 (03:56):
And when I watched him warm up, I'm going, boy,
I got it right. He did not miss a kick
off the little ball hole. He did not miss the
kick when they were practicing with a holder and a
snapper and the whole thing, And I'm going, he's going
to hit one from sixty. There was no wind. It
was still beautiful, beautiful. You don't get it right. And
(04:20):
then he missed the extra.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
Miss it but it was a forty eight yard extra.
Speaker 7 (04:24):
Guys, but still real, go for him.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Let's just make it.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
Can we make this a rule on the on the show,
we cannot say anything bad about Brandon Aubrey.
Speaker 7 (04:35):
We really say anything.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Really, We're lucky he's on the table. We are lucky
on the table because he shouldn't be on the table.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Did heckma heave?
Speaker 7 (04:43):
Oh heckma?
Speaker 6 (04:44):
Come on, man, knocked it out the park. You don't
even see the ball. That's right, Williams. Come on, running back,
tell you he had Look, man, we talked all we
talked about blue and the change up, and I said
on Friday, I'm like, forget all that.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
You know, you got a running back that can get
it done.
Speaker 7 (04:59):
Can you teach him this which balls to the other hand?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Right now?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Come on, man, did you see him? He was trying
to stiff on with his hand. How you he's running
with the ball here? The defenders here looked like he
was trying to stiff on with the wrong hand.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Since which did hit when he got the ball knocked
out in Chicago?
Speaker 7 (05:15):
It was here?
Speaker 5 (05:16):
It was in the left left. Yeah, that's why he's
keeping in the right now.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Well, nobody's coming up behind him now, I mean, come on,
he's got his strung. All he had to do was
switch it over and he could have piled his way
through keeping that.
Speaker 8 (05:28):
But if he hadn't, the half would have been over. Yeah,
they were out of timeouts.
Speaker 7 (05:33):
I think he would have.
Speaker 8 (05:35):
Well if he didn't though, Yeah, if he didn't get
out of the yeah you thank them five offensive? Why
they were going to run sixty six yards like ten seconds?
Speaker 7 (05:46):
Well, he didn't either.
Speaker 8 (05:47):
The half would have out anyway.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
Well, every started at what nineteen No, it.
Speaker 8 (05:53):
Ended in nineteen seconds.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
Plenty of time to get down there.
Speaker 7 (05:57):
Just spike it.
Speaker 8 (05:58):
Let's just let's just let's second sixty six yards because
you know they were all at the line of what.
Speaker 7 (06:04):
Was the final score, and I had thirty to twenty.
Speaker 8 (06:09):
That's right, Come on, man, I blew we had the twenties.
Speaker 7 (06:14):
I blew.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, y'all had the twenties covered that twenty four to twenties.
I had no confidence. I told you, we gotta keep scoring.
You said that you gotta keep scoring. You think twenty
is gonna help out.
Speaker 8 (06:22):
I didn't know they would do it with four backups
on the.
Speaker 7 (06:24):
H you go, man, only me? And really why I
picked the entire old line.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
When you think of the thirty seven points, it wasn't
like they got a lot of teams. You get thirty
seven points, you're gonna have a block field goal for
a touchdown, you're gonna have a fumble return scoop and
score a pick six.
Speaker 7 (06:42):
Or we didn't even have a nice big return.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
These were a couple of couple of ninety nineties around drives.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah, yeah, that's when that, that reminded me of old
school Cowboys right there, go.
Speaker 7 (06:53):
Into a hostile environment.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Odds against you really, because they were, oh, you can't
go in five, and they're not going to go on five.
You got this hard nose coach over here. You know
they're just losing just by a little bit of every game.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
No, man, you said hostile environment. Mickey was there. It
was not seasonably and seasonably hot day eighty five degrees
and so what were the stands like in the sun,
no wind, Because you look at college football games like
in Waco on Saturday, it looked like nobody's at the game. Well,
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everybody's under the cover. And because it even when it's
eighty something degrees, I mean we're used to one hundred degrees
hot here. Well, but that is hot.
Speaker 8 (07:40):
In the crowd, they announced eighty one thousand, there were
not any one thousand and a lot of empty seats,
and the Cowboys fans bought up tickets. They were loud.
It was amazing, how many.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
I tell you what helps the Cowboys especially this year
because it's been hot here the whole month of September,
and I mean they're practicing on his practice field out here.
Helps him in a game like yesterday.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Well, you we never I don't think we've ever gotten
beaten because of fatigue and had nothing to do with it,
just lack of assignments.
Speaker 8 (08:10):
Well, they couldn't have done all that offensive stuff without
those four backups playing the way they did absolutely incredible
and that was the first time those five guys had
played in the game together. Nate Thomas makes his first
NFL start and he apologizes to Dak afterwards, said I
can do better. Really well, I'm watching and he was
(08:32):
doing pretty damn good.
Speaker 7 (08:34):
Who was going up against you, boy? Uh oh? Quinn
was his name, Quinny william Quinn.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
So it was TJ Bass. It was TJ.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
Bass, and brock Hoffman had a lot of that and
also Terrence Steele, so he was switching between the A
and the B gap a lot of times. They were
running a bunch of stunts also when they did have
some success applying any pressure.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
But that Quinn Williams was a non factor.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
That's what I was.
Speaker 8 (08:57):
Three tackles, it was.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
He was a non factor.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
The linebackers much of the off the defensive line for me,
which I came into this game expected for them to
be a lot more stout based off of what I
had been seeing, and it just seemed to me and
for Dak Prescott, him coming to the line of scrimmage,
you know, changing the plays, but also the way that
this run game was just dicing them up first down
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to me was so important in this game because you
heard it was the announcer the tight end for Olson,
he mentioned marrying the running game with the passing game,
and a lot of people on Twitter have made a
lot about that. I don't think they understand what that means.
But on first down, if it looks like it's going
to be a running play and most of the defenses
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sinking down and then next thing you know, you're getting
gashed and hit over the top.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
You know, I saw a lot of that for guys.
Speaker 7 (09:50):
Like your favorite tight end.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
I told you, Yeah, I told you, but you know,
hitting Ford, but also Flinoy behind the safety. But man,
that touchdown to Pickens, it just to me, it just
shows when everything is clicking, when that running game is
running so smooth, and those linebackers have to adjust.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
To play action. Look at how easy it makes everything.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
And so that's what when it's when you don't know,
even on first down, if they're gonna run a pass,
that just puts a defense in the blender. And you
saw that on Sunday. If you can double down on
that effort in every game that you're going to be
in and your running game is clicking like that, it's
gonna be hard to compete with the way that Dak
Prescott and Brian Schottenheimer this offense, the way that they're
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calling it right now, because it's scary to think about
the way that he's clicking right now.
Speaker 8 (10:41):
Well, he had four seconds. I went back and looked
at it to throw that football to Pickens, and he's
in man coverage, right, He's against man coverage and.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
The top paid cornerback.
Speaker 8 (10:52):
And I don't know how well they showed it, but
I described it as Sauce was playing grabby atchy. He
just kept grabbing and grabbing him and grabbing him and
he couldn't catch up.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
No, I love it when they don't call the penalty
on those because both of those guys are hand fighting down.
Speaker 8 (11:08):
Yeah, play, but he fought it off.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
And how about Pickings being able to make the play?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Likes to catch, Yes, after fighting him off, He's pushing, pushing, pushing.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
He almost missed it, you know, because but he corralled it.
Speaker 8 (11:20):
Just none of all that stop stuff happens unless it's
for those that offensive line. They don't run for one
hundred and eighty yards, the DAK doesn't throw for four touchdowns,
they don't total four hundred and sixteen yards offense if
those guys don't play the way they did. And you
got to give credit to those offensive line coaches on
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this team. We talked, We gave the last week there
was a reason why Clayton Atams he should name the
offensive coordinator because he's an offensive line and they hired
an offensive line coach with Connor outside.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
But when we talked about it last week, that's why
I believe in them. Yeah, because TJ. Bass came in
it did well right away, and Hasso and.
Speaker 7 (12:01):
He and Haffma.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
So I don't think it's a stretch that these guys,
especially as much as you've been talking about Nate, I
don't think it was a stretch at all to pick
those guys to play.
Speaker 7 (12:11):
Well.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Here's the other thing, and I agree with you on
the offensive line coaches. I also want them to get
a shout out to Will McLay and the whole scouting
staff on it. I track this stuff because I do
the preseason games, and so I have to know who
all these backup offensive linemen are on other teams, and
most teams in the league, including the Cowboys in the past,
(12:33):
you go to camp with fifteen or sixteen offensive linemen
and the bottom ten guys on that roster are the
ones that are playing in the games that I'm calling,
and usually there are five or six of them that
are college free agents. But what the Cowboys did this year,
there was like one rookie which is the sixth round
draft pick, plus Tyler Booker, the first round draft pick,
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all the other guys, and this is very unusual for
NFL teams. They were guys who were second third year
guys in the league that they brought in. There was
competition to try to establish depth on this offensive line.
I mean, I've got a list of twenty guys here
that they've had through here, whether it was at the
start of training camp, off season, or whatever. And these
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are the guys that made the cut basically. And these
are guys some of them, like Hakeemadnagy, they've started games
before in the league. Remember they brought Sadiq Charles in.
They brought these guys in that have previous starting experience
so when you get in a pinch like this, they
can step in and you don't lose a beat. And
Rob Jones too, but yeah, Rob Jones is another one
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that they signed in free agency.
Speaker 8 (13:40):
And don't don't discredit or forget what the tight ends
did because they played a lot of two tight ends
and those three guys were blocking right and did a
really nice job. So Lunda Wells, you know, Clayton and
even Ramon Ching young. Uh, those guys they put intentionally.
(14:03):
Shottenheimer made an intentional attempt to say, we're gonna run
the ball. And if I'm gonna run the ball, I
got to establish an offensive line and he got coaches.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
To be able to do that.
Speaker 8 (14:14):
I mean, you just don't get those young guys like
that to go in and play the way they did.
It should have been disaster.
Speaker 7 (14:21):
Can you you can see that.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
The reward to the tight ends is that we are
running the ball right, because that allows them to leak
out and get the catches that they're making. This is
all a part of it. It's almost like a reward.
We're gonna block, We're gonna make you block.
Speaker 7 (14:38):
Ferguson. We're gonna make you block all the span for it.
But also we're gonna get you out there.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
You're gonna get some touches, and so to me, I
think that's a nice little candy.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I'm sorry not to let you off.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
There can the apology to Jake Ferguson be as loud
as the sarcasm as it was towards. I'm just asking
TuS me. I've been on a few shows where I
love Jake Ferguson. I call his nickname for me is
fird Kittle Kelsey. I group him in with the best
fight ends. I believe in the league, and I think
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number eighty seven has shown flashes of that cowboy Fans
have been waiting for it. And then you know, with
the way that the national media and everybody kind of
lumps the Cowboys into a don't care about what they
do in the regular sees is what they do in
the playoffs. But when you find a tight end like
this that is giving you that threat to your defense,
and you have to account for me he scored on
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a screen number one.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
I mean the kind of wheels.
Speaker 6 (15:37):
That you have to have to score on the tight
end screen and the confidence that you have to have.
It's not a lot of guys in the league that's
running that. I have to say, And I talked about
this last week. I like him down the field, That's
what I talked about. I want to get him down
the field as opposed to these little dumpoffs because he's
not breaking tackles, which he still didn't break any tackles yesterday,
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but set him up with better plays such as the screen.
Speaker 7 (16:02):
So to me, that's a that's a great alternative.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
You got him blocking, he had a he had a
catch yesterday for minus two yards, and and so to me,
that's not his fault. I want him to get the screens.
I want him in the scenes more often. And I
saw that we missed him.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
Apology.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
He should apologize. Oh my goodness, what was he doing.
It was a perfect, perfect call. He was open, the
safety was out of position. All he had to do
was put it in there. So yeah, I like him,
and I do apologize as long as they're giving him
ways to open it up as opposed to being that
guy that we just dump off for three yards.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Yeah, if we could get a quarterback in here.
Speaker 7 (16:49):
You expect perfectionion. I mean you see profession All of
a sudden, He's like, book, what the hell does happened?
Speaker 8 (16:54):
He raised his quarterback reading to one o one one, Right,
he was pretty darn good.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
Yeah, it was all.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Right, And that was a pretty good, pretty darn good
first segment to the show. You know, it's amazing how
much better the shows are when the Cowboys play like
they do it on Sunday.
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Speaker 5 (19:37):
Pick win for the Cowboys much needed win and expected
they were expected to go in there when they took
care of business and it was a blowout win. That
was what this team needed as much as anything you see.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
On the rundown on Friday and said, win the winnables.
That's just I just wanted to.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
Do it and win them where you can breathe easy. Okay,
That's what this team needed as much as anything when
and when where you can breathe easy, And that's what
they were able to do. And so this is a
final score of thirty seven to twenty two, but it
wasn't as close astro.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
And it was it was like like spags talked about.
It was the way we did it. We did it
with professionalism. We were consistent. You know, we did what
we were supposed to do. I didn't think we had
a lot of penalties in the game, not against us
UH and especially at.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Yeah, didn't cause problems.
Speaker 7 (20:34):
And that's even better. Yeah, that's even better.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
You didn't let those game wasn't close enough to wear
ten penalties ten.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
Ten game could have gotten pretty close there if not
for one play, which one marislea feul.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
Yes, that was it.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
They were driving, punching that ball out. In fact, Schottenheimer
said after the game that he thinks he's the best
in the league of doing that. Well. Young in the league,
but he's got three now and force bumbles in his career.
Speaker 8 (21:04):
You got to make plays on defense. You got to
do things like.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
They were getting run on. Yes, Cowboys defense was getting.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Run on the same play, the same play right right
in the big gap.
Speaker 7 (21:16):
Come on, man, what are we doing here?
Speaker 6 (21:18):
We talked, We talked about this defense though all of
last week and just the adjustments that need to be
made by coach Eberflus. But one of the things that
we kind of settled in on is that we although
we were tested first game against the Eagles, we kind
of felt like this would be a test, you know,
and the running game last week was as well, but
we corralled them at home. But look, Breese Hall is
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really good. And when you got it, when you have
you're in a situation where you have to pick your poison.
It was we're not going to let Geartt Wilson victimize us.
And so as we transitioned, obviously to to defense, I
think it was the pressure, the pressure that was presented
that made everything so much easier that first drive. I
don't know about you, but that first drive when they
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were driving down the field, I'm saying to myself, you
have got to be kidding me. Why does this continue
to happen to us? I mean, our defense is getting
ran through like.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
A third down place. Once again, it was could not
get off the field, and this first third down defense
in the league. And Garrett Wilson for sixteen on third
and five, Breeseaw for twenty two on third and one
and converted again on third and one after getting a
penalty on third and five, and then fields quarterback sneak.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
And then you gotta go to Sally because Solomon Thomas
on the goal line made a hell of a play.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
Well, the whole credit off the Jets offensive line. Don't
want to take anything away from Sally on that.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
You gotta give it to him.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
That's one of my players.
Speaker 7 (22:52):
They missed it.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
It was one of those It remember the preseason when
Mazie made that tackle black Field and nobody blocked.
Speaker 13 (22:59):
In right, got to take advantage. Nobody wanted you and
saw that, what that's my pig.
Speaker 8 (23:10):
Then we found out that Dante Fowler was on the
field try first.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
Time got we got one of the potential greatest plays
in Cowboys history was stolen from us by the skycamp.
Speaker 8 (23:25):
Oh yeah, that's going to be the interception that play?
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Yes, and how about Justin Fields throws the ball, It
caroms off Dante Fowler's helmet, goes so high in the
air that it hits the sky camp. And if you
go look at the all twenty two there's Kinney Clark.
He beat his He was right there and he was
tracking that ball.
Speaker 14 (23:49):
He was like Willie Mays going back on the ball
in the center field. He had a beat on that
ball and he was about to catch it. I had
Josh justin Field there with him. It would have been
a great battle to see if Justin.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
Fields could bring down Kenny Clark in the open field.
And the damn skycam got in the.
Speaker 8 (24:11):
Knocked it straight down falls bouncing in the air. That's
two right, one second left against the Packers and the
ball went straight down.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
That would have been such a great play. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (24:23):
No, but Fowler showed up right and and then he
has a great game. He took advantage of the rookie
right tackle.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
Five quarterback pressures.
Speaker 8 (24:31):
Yeah, and they ended up with five sacks in one game.
They had five sacks in four games. So yeah, the
defense finally got some pressure.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Now.
Speaker 8 (24:42):
I think the other thing that happened, and you guys
tell me if you noticed it, but Trayvon Diggs seemed
like he knew how to play football again to Ron
Bland playing well on the other side, and they started
playing more man coverage to start the game, and it
was working, but they were also blitzing a little so
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I don't know if that caused them to get gashed
in the running game.
Speaker 7 (25:08):
But now they're running game. They were just getting gashed.
Speaker 8 (25:10):
They were getting gashed up front, right, But at least
they didn't give up any big passes down the field
like we've been used to seeing.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
So Super Bowl twenty five playing against the team that
can do both things very well, Buffalo Bills. Right, pick
your poison. If you can't stop them both stop one,
stop one.
Speaker 8 (25:32):
Just don't get beaten with big plays, right.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
So usually that means we're gonna cover the pass, and
we're gonna we're gonna we don't want to give you
the rust, but we're gonna cover the pass. Okay, whatever
comes up in the in the middle of that, that's fine.
We gotta pick our poison. I'd rather go with you
gashing me for twenty than killing me over the top
for forty five and fifty.
Speaker 8 (25:55):
You realize they played one ye Thomas making the start
of the snaps.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
He did every play and it wasn't perfect, but he
still he did. He did a good job uh in
coverage as well. But guys like James Houston. You bring
up Fowler and Sam Williams, who I think people have
been down on a little bit.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Sam Wave. Sam Williams also had a showing.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
But that's the difference that pressure can make for those
guys in the secondary. And when you talk about that, listen,
you you have to take away something. We know this
this running. This run defense hadn't been perfect. But at
the same time, if you're going to give up something
to a breeze hall and limit them on the back end,
you knew that you would get shots at justin fields.
He holds onto the ball too long. They mentioned it
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in the broadcast. He is number one in the league
holding on to the ball, so that because he doesn't
know what he's.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Seeings, he didn't know what the biggest.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
And he's And the thing is is that they are
working with him to release the ball quicker. It's not
that he doesn't have the options, he just doesn't trust.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Did you see.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
When he was able to release quickly guy hanging off
of him on the.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
Two point conversion.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Yeah, and he just just throws it out there on
the dime while this guy's hanging off of him. So
that's the potential of what he has when he gets
rid of it quickly.
Speaker 8 (27:11):
And I don't know if you guys thought this the
a two touchdowns in the fourth quarter, I thought the
Cowboys were playing defense against the clock. Yes, they were,
no doubt, because they backed off they were starting to
play zone. It's like Okay, if you're going to score,
you're going to have to go eighty yards.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
We're not doing that. We're not doing this Giants crap anymore. Yah,
that's not going to happen.
Speaker 7 (27:29):
And that's what the.
Speaker 5 (27:30):
Same way the Lions played against the Bengals yesterday. Bengal,
it was a blowout game and the Angles scored three
touchdowns three touchdown passes in the fourth quarter to make
it thirty seven to twenty four.
Speaker 7 (27:39):
It really wasn't the club. It wasn't that closse.
Speaker 8 (27:41):
Yeah, so they were playing the clock and you know,
when you're you score thirty seven, you can do that.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
And we don't have a defense yet. Yeah, that can
take advantage of it the way they should. So we
just kind of laid back, and to me, that's the
smart way to go. And it's not like you're relenting
at all. You just got to be smart.
Speaker 8 (28:00):
And they played the young guys.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
Can I ask you this, James, Yes, I was just okay,
Shamar James him filling in for Samborn. The difference that
that made in the deep.
Speaker 8 (28:10):
Well they were playing, they were they moved Murray to
the middle and then Leah Fowl and James were on
the wing.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
But but James was getting in the game and the
nickel or dimed, yes, early in the game.
Speaker 8 (28:21):
Right from the start, right he was, he was on
the nickel and and he's so athletic. They used these
young guys. Let him play. You know, Nate loves to
hear this, right, lay those young guys right and and
I thought that made a difference the speed they had it. Yes,
now it didn't help with the run stopping, but I
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think they helped in past coverage underneath and limited what
they did underneath. So yeah, if you look at that,
you know, you got Ready Stewart out there in the slot.
You got your two young linebackers playing. They had a
lot of guys in there. A guy and it was
as a roku.
Speaker 7 (29:03):
Uh did you see the play start?
Speaker 8 (29:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's got something, So yeah, let those
guys play.
Speaker 7 (29:10):
By the way.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
On Shamar James, something we talked about last week, and
he's a young player. He just turned twenty one this
summer and very young player.
Speaker 8 (29:18):
ACKI Florida last year at Florida.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
But at Florida, remember we talked about Now, I was
talking about Jaden Blue and it took and Jalen Tolbert
took time and for them in college to get on
the field now with Blue and he had Bjon Robinson
Bland in front of him, and whoever Texas has a
running back. But Shamar James as a true freshman at Florida,
he goes in there and he's a starter immediately, okay,
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and for three years he's done that. And so a guy,
I think, and I've just noticed this as I studied
the draft prospects and so forth. Typically a guy who
can go from high school and immediately starting college you
can get you can expect maybe that same transition when
they come into the NFL. And I think you're seeing
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that with Shamar Jame. It's a makeup that guys have
it to a maturity level, a mental makeup where they
can be trusted by coaches and stuff and be able
to get on the field and play quicker.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
That was and it's and it's also the fact that
you're a dog and you have the athleticism to get
it done. And that's a very hard transitions as you
as you as you're stating for a guy to go
from high school to go to college and play immediately.
I just think that when we were watching a little
bit of practice last week and we saw Murray at
the middle linebacker. You saw him and Ebra Flues working
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on this field over here on being a spy, and
he did a damn good job at that. I think
only just a few runs that justin fields have where
he was able to, you know, walk off with his
legs and pick up first downs, but those were few
and far in between in the game that you felt like,
competitive wise, he would show you a little bit more
with his legs, but he had so many other things
to worry about the yesterday that he didn't even get
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a chance to take advantage of his legs and being everyone.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
A fresh face yesterday watching this guy, man, I mean
he's ready for some yag.
Speaker 7 (31:13):
Yes, he's ready for some yag. Man. He was thirsty
yesterday and I.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
Was thinking last week he made it. There was a
catch last week last week. Yeah, but it was just
the body language and yeah, explosion guy that I was like, Oh,
this guy's got something.
Speaker 7 (31:31):
And he showed that yesterday as well. It was a
couple and he was gone. I thought he was gone.
I thought he was gone.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
Yes, I think that's why. That's why. And Seawn Nimers
talked about how good he is as a gunner on
special teams and so when obviously when Turpin was down
as well as Lamb, he was going to get his opportunities.
But what really told you was when they elevated Cropper
and Brooks. And by the way, Brooks played well on
special teams as a gunner himself.
Speaker 7 (31:59):
Who what's books number eighty three? Yes, yeah, so he was.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Ropper was called up to replace Turping returning punts and
fair fair catching punts.
Speaker 8 (32:10):
And what I asked, who's returned punts? And whoever told
the adswer said, Cropper's got a fair catcher.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
Yeah, there you go. And then Brooks was replacing Illinois
on special teams as a gunner.
Speaker 7 (32:24):
They have to pay at that happened.
Speaker 8 (32:27):
He's having a big day, and that's what you get
for guy's targets come from the South suburbs of Chicago.
Speaker 7 (32:34):
Come on, I.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
Want to throw that out. Who're you talking about?
Speaker 8 (32:40):
Well, no, I like him.
Speaker 7 (32:42):
I like him.
Speaker 8 (32:43):
He grew up one suburb over from where.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
He seemed to be. I would Turping number two. You know,
he seems to be that he seemed to be a
little some different. Talk to him.
Speaker 6 (32:55):
I'm just saying, as far as the balance that you're
talking about, how sure he is with this hands and
you'd love to see guys take advantage of their opportunities.
And Dak yesterday in the postgame interview, he basically said,
you know, they were talking about the offensive line and
he says that, you know, I went to these guys
and told told them I got my opportunity like this.
(33:17):
Now it's now it's time for you to get And
that's and that's just leadership. That's just leadership. That's a
guy that's that's proven and tested, who've come through the
ranks and had to step up because of an injury.
And Flanoy to me, I think you know, when he
was drafted, he kind of sat in the back end
of shadows for a while. We really didn't even know
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what we had in him. And then finally when you
see him start to emerge. It was the last game,
and I think your Obera went up like, wait a minute, man,
this guy got a little something. And then this game
where all we were talking about was Tobert and the
opportunity that he was going to get, Flinoyd just stole
that spot, like and man recognized that when we.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Keep talking, when I keep talking about what I want
from Tobert got for that's what I saw.
Speaker 8 (34:02):
Well, you know what. And the other thing is Dak
had the confidence to go to him, so he had,
you know, because I'm sure that.
Speaker 7 (34:13):
He catch this dair ball, because I would put it
in that.
Speaker 8 (34:16):
He can trust that they're going to be trust but
they need to be Yeah, because that deep ball he
wasn't totally open, right, he came back beat the guy.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Well that's by design because uh, even the pickens wasn't
totally open, right. Do you kind of throw it open
to where he likes to receive it to cut off
the dB. I don't think he necessarily likes seeing it
over the outside shoulder. Dak likes to throw it to
where the receiver once he's got his shoulder in front
of him and he has his leverage on him. He
likes to see him come inside. They trust me, they
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see it, they see it.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
He's an example of they come from all places. And
in contrast to what we talked about with Shamar James
being so young, having just turned twenty one, Illinois, ILLINOI
is nearly five years older than Shamar James. He turns
twenty six later this month. But here's a guy lightly
recruited out of Mickey's neighborhood in Cholo High School, almost
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as lightly recruited as Mickey was. But he goes to
Central Missouri for three years, has to deal with COVID
during that, okay, and transfers to a junior college Iowa
Western Community College, and then winds up at Southeast Missouri State.
But you talk about his explosion. Okay, this is where
he got on NFL Scouts radars. It's the four to
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four speed, it's the forty vertical, it's the eleven foot
broad jump nineteen venture athlete.
Speaker 8 (35:44):
And he was a truck guy.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
Yeah yeah, yeah, and he's he's showing that on the field.
Speaker 7 (35:49):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 8 (35:50):
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Speaker 5 (38:24):
Oh what a big weekend that's going to be. Who
guess who's coming in that weekend? The Washington Commanders.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
H looking good too.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
Eagles lose yesterday?
Speaker 3 (38:37):
How about that? Yeah? How about that good old Eagles.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
We could see Sean Payton goes for two, went for two.
Speaker 7 (38:45):
Uh huh.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
I was not ready for that team and it wasn't
at the end of the gay it was it was
fourth quarter, yeah, and you know they were down seventeen
three going into the fourth Yeah. And I like the
fact that he did it in that case because he
wasn't putting the game on that, but he knew there
were gonna be other possessions. But he's kind of put
the confident confidence in his own team, and he put
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the Eagles on notice that hey, we're gonna beat you.
Speaker 6 (39:11):
They were undefeated coming into this into that game, and
they are the most they were the most dysfunctional, unbeaten
team of all the teams in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
That the locker room in you can see it coming.
Speaker 6 (39:22):
You know, at some point it's just like and they're
being critique and I'm saying to myself, these are the
world champions.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
These are the guys that you would think.
Speaker 6 (39:30):
I mean, obviously you get the narrative throughout the season
is going to change, right, but man, that the dysfunction
is I think is really wild.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
They're missing more. Barkley got six carries yesterday.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Kellen Moore did not.
Speaker 6 (39:50):
Come into it, never come into any locker room saying
let's run the ball, guys.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
You know, No, here's here's what where I say that
they've got an new offensive coordinator who's trying to win
the respect of his talent on his team. And you've
seen where A. J. Brown's not getting any balls whatsoever.
And I didn't watch the game. I was watching the
Cowboy game, but you know they're sitting there going.
Speaker 7 (40:14):
He was getting covered. He was getting covered yesterday.
Speaker 5 (40:17):
And and everywhere. He's got a way to satisfy all.
And DeVante Smith had more numbers.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
Yeah, one hundred yards last year last I think, yeah,
and so.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
But anyway, and you get up seventeen to three, you
should be feeding Barkley left and right. And he got
six carries on bill.
Speaker 6 (40:34):
No one has ever put telling more and running game
in the same sentence.
Speaker 8 (40:38):
Well, what did last year?
Speaker 5 (40:40):
Until last year?
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Last year?
Speaker 8 (40:42):
For two?
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Sirianni told him.
Speaker 16 (40:45):
Well, he's telling them if you want to keep you,
if you want to keep here, you better run his
damn ball you got Barkley.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
I mean, you talk about embarrassing.
Speaker 8 (40:57):
So why didn't happened in this year?
Speaker 3 (40:59):
They were No, they just lost one game, have.
Speaker 8 (41:02):
One less loss than the Cowboys.
Speaker 7 (41:04):
That's right, think about it. I'm loving it.
Speaker 8 (41:10):
One less loss.
Speaker 7 (41:11):
It looks just everything just looks better than that has
to win more.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
Right, It's not so much Kellen Moore. It's a new
offensive coordinator that's trying to, okay, figure out this thing.
Speaker 8 (41:24):
But didn't they have changes on the offensive line too.
Speaker 5 (41:27):
They've got their offensive line is not as what do
it playing as well as what it was. They've had
some injury issues.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
Oh, we don't do any complaining about offensive line.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
The defense is clearly what carries Philadelphia been carrying them
all season long.
Speaker 7 (41:39):
That's just facts.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
I wouldn't worry about necessarily the defense having you know,
coming unhooked, unhinged. But offensively I could see this coming.
You knew it was going to.
Speaker 7 (41:51):
Have issues last year.
Speaker 5 (41:52):
I mean even with Kellen Moore. Yeah, I mean until
they got on a roll late in the season and
they have a system on how to in games if
they can establish the run with Barkley you know, and
get into I think that's.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
What kind of smoothed them out last year, was they
just they stuck with it and they got better at it.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Especially in the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (42:12):
Here's the other thing with Barkley, he has a lot
of negative runs. Okay, Adrian Peterson was like this too,
where I know what, going back to when he was
at Oklahoma. Yeah, there were a ton of no yards
on that carry, one yard on that carry, and then
he'll break one, and so you have to keep pressing
it with him. And the Barkley's got a lot of
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zero yard carries, a lot of one yard carries, and
then he'll go sixty.
Speaker 7 (42:37):
That's what Tom Landy always said about Tony does said too.
Speaker 6 (42:41):
I mean, this is totally off the subject and being
around you guys too long, but watching Penn State, and
I'm used to seeing Penn State running backs be great
and even in the National Football League, but watching I
don't know if you saw the Penn State UCLA.
Speaker 5 (42:54):
Game saw about it. I didn't see it.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (42:57):
It's just to me when you see a team that
you used to see seeing a certain pedigree coming from them,
and I think that's what we're talking about about Philadelphia,
just the running game being non existent. I'm just not
used to seeing certain teams Damely, Penn State, Frank o'harris
and all the great running backs that come through Happy
Valley for them not to have one. And man, I
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just think it really is impactful on every level when
you don't have a running game and State.
Speaker 5 (43:23):
I thought that's what they had coming back. I thought
they had two running backs coming back.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (43:27):
I guess it's just one of those things for me, Philly,
what you're talking about. I think the longest run for
Saquon had he hadn't even broken a twenty yard or
so this season, which at this point he last year.
I think he'd had like five or six, you know,
up until this point.
Speaker 5 (43:44):
All Right, I just said the break before this, we're
not going to talk about the rest of the leagas
seven was saving for tomorrow. But we might as now
that we've started down this road. How about Derrick Henry.
Speaker 8 (43:53):
That's what I was going to bring up.
Speaker 5 (43:54):
Okay, and Cooper rush starts yesterday for baltimorem hm. And
it shows what a difference it when you don't have
the threat, whether the run threat or the vertical passing
threat with your quarterback and they can And Derrick Henry
had thirty yards on fifteen carries or something like that yesterday.
I mean at one point he was eleven Garris for
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thirteen yards or something. And and uh Cooper rushed through
three picks in the second half. Of that, they get
blown out by the Texans. And uh in Baltimore, right
in Baltimore.
Speaker 8 (44:28):
And by the way, Jane and Daniels returns. And what's
his name?
Speaker 7 (44:32):
Bruce?
Speaker 5 (44:34):
The running back Bill Bill. It's the first first running
back name Bill in the National Football League since Bill
Jones played for the Chiefs thirty years ago.
Speaker 8 (44:44):
And Bill broke out with a big fat yes.
Speaker 5 (44:49):
No one's proving it wrong. I asked Ai, who was
the last running back?
Speaker 6 (44:56):
Bill?
Speaker 3 (44:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (44:58):
That set whether it said.
Speaker 5 (45:00):
Yet says the last one was Bill Jones out of
Corsicana High School. And of course.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
This is the guy you don't play guests with.
Speaker 6 (45:10):
His mind is full of useless information.
Speaker 8 (45:13):
All the Bills William met running back For gosh.
Speaker 7 (45:20):
We have William Andrews. Come on, man, that's Bill William Andrews.
You don't know about his mom. His mom may have
called him Bill. He may aunt called him Billy.
Speaker 5 (45:33):
I gotta asked William Andrews, when did he play in
the eighties? I got a photographer named William Andrews here,
All right, go ahead, What were you knowing about Bill
Crosskey Merritt? No, he scored two touchdowns?
Speaker 8 (45:45):
Yeah, And Jayden Daniels was playing again. So when you
have a quarterback that's a threat, that certainly helps your
running back, right and and that's what's happening in Baltimore
right now.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
Well, I mean that's what happened here with the Cowboys
right now. We have at this point, we have an
extremely well balanced offense.
Speaker 7 (46:04):
Period.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
We have a quarterback who's just seems to be in
a comfort zone that he hadn't seen.
Speaker 7 (46:13):
I hadn't seen him in quite some time.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Even this MVP year almost MVP year, was that three
years ago when you were doing well.
Speaker 5 (46:20):
William Andrews, by the way, played from nineteen seventy nine
to nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 7 (46:24):
Okay again, I said eighty eighties. That was price, I
said the eighties.
Speaker 5 (46:29):
So I'm still looking for another Bill who played running
William Man is William or William I'll even open it
up to William. That's no, no. But Bill Jones was
nineteen ninety one or ninety two. That's the last one.
I have a record of a Bill that played running
back in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (46:48):
We got to check that.
Speaker 6 (46:49):
Man, he said, I want to find one.
Speaker 7 (46:52):
I want to find one way. I call you William.
Speaker 6 (46:58):
William So I'm with you on that, man, But seeing
Dak in this game also seven carries for twenty eight yards,
his willingness to run, that's something that I thought, I'm
telling you, coming into this season, I would not have
bet that he would be using his legs after a
hamstring injury. You know, that'd be the last thing that
I would be expecting from him. And he is coming
in and really in those situations where it's third and short,
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third and third and long, he's proving the.
Speaker 5 (47:24):
Buffect going out tight ends covered yep, and he just
tucks it and runs.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (47:29):
That's it.
Speaker 6 (47:30):
I love it. I absolutely love where this offense is
right now. Defensively, that was the hope that you were
talking about last week, and we were using terms like
put it all together, and finally you see a game
where it wasn't perfect, and no one's gonna claim many
we only gave up three points. For a long time,
I'm just saying we only gave up three points. But
I think you can call this putting it all together
(47:51):
and beating the team you're supposed to beat.
Speaker 7 (47:53):
So and see, that's another one we understand.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
Okay, the Jets, they are the Jets, yes, but you're
so supposed to win.
Speaker 7 (48:01):
In that fashion, Well, we made our stride.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
To me was except for the first drive, we showed
what a good team looks like when it goes to
a hostile environment to be the team that's inferior to them.
We did everything everything that we were supposed to do
and the fashion that we were supposed to do it
once again, except for that.
Speaker 7 (48:22):
Last the first drive.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
Everything about that game we looked like a solid team
offensively and defensive.
Speaker 8 (48:29):
And they were only one and a half point favorites.
Speaker 7 (48:32):
And that's something.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Well, you know why, because when we go into in
a hostile environment, we choke.
Speaker 8 (48:39):
Well, that's the first time they won on the road
since some point the end of last year. I think
they had lost four straight on the road and only
gave up technically one sack because Dak was running right.
I don't think you give him a sack on that
when it's obvious when he rolled out.
Speaker 7 (48:59):
Did they give it to him?
Speaker 6 (49:00):
They did for one, just the Micah sack got to
bring up his name once, all right.
Speaker 5 (49:07):
And to wrap things up, Sanborn with a concussion less
the game anything else injury wise.
Speaker 8 (49:13):
That Brooks came back, he limped off and then he
came back.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
They were coming out. He made them come after him
because he was raising hell over there. They're like, we
got to take care of this little guy.
Speaker 8 (49:25):
I think everybody else and uh, they were doing their
workout this morning and I saw guys that had been
in boots not in boots.
Speaker 3 (49:32):
Who's coming back, Mickey, who do we get back?
Speaker 8 (49:35):
Well, if you think about it, Tyler Smith was dressed
and he was in an emergency role, and only because
when they needed to have explain why they needed to
have eight offensive linemen up so they can elevate two
guys off the practice you.
Speaker 5 (49:51):
Can only if you only have seven offensive linemen active,
you can only elevate one guy in the practice squad
they need they needed to elevate two. Jalen's right, So
that's why Tyler Smith was dressed out for the game
with no intention.
Speaker 8 (50:04):
But I think he was getting closer.
Speaker 5 (50:06):
Hey, I saw him in pregame warm ups and he
was looked.
Speaker 8 (50:09):
To be BB was out of his boot, So maybe
you're getting it's.
Speaker 5 (50:14):
Always Jones on the radio this morning was asked about
injuries and the only thing that I saw on Twitter
was BB it'll be after week ten. On overshown, which
we already knew. Yeah, week tens to bye week in November. Uh,
it'll be and BB will be after week ten. Also,
it's what he said.
Speaker 8 (50:33):
And he's on IR, so he has missed four but
at least he's it looks like making some progress. And
CD saw him rehabbing on the resistance cords last week,
so that means he's at least moving and he uh
maybe another week, he'd looked like he was close, So
(50:55):
that's that's encouraging.
Speaker 5 (50:57):
Flo Baby Floa's right, yeah, all right, next man up
and men?
Speaker 3 (51:04):
That's right.
Speaker 8 (51:05):
It's plural, that does it.
Speaker 7 (51:07):
For a eight.
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Victory Monday edition of Mixed Shots.
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Go we got all kind of moves.
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Speaker 5 (01:05):
It's a victory Monday. Victory formation.
Speaker 6 (01:11):
Like that?
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Why did you tell us, Okay, I'm synchronize here all right,
time to get in victory formation.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, we don't ever do that.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Ever said, were you jealous of the offensive lineman?
Speaker 7 (01:33):
And come on?
Speaker 5 (01:35):
What did was? It wasn't victory formation, it was every formation?
Speaker 7 (01:38):
Then what did I pick? What did I pick? Picked?
The click? Offensive line?
Speaker 5 (01:44):
We have to start there.
Speaker 7 (01:45):
Well you brought up offensive line. That's my Oh that
was your pick.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Off the line.
Speaker 7 (01:52):
And what did they do?
Speaker 6 (01:53):
They played there behind That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
I told you unbelievable. I told you what we had
to do. If look man and.
Speaker 7 (02:05):
Let me let me just what help me in That.
Speaker 6 (02:08):
Was incredible because hey, they needed to play like that
to pull off a victory like that.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
And I don't care who you are. You just got
to be honest with yourself.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
You came into Sunday right right around eleven forty one.
You were like, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Eleven your stomach started, Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Four eighty percent of the starting offensive line. It was a.
Speaker 8 (02:34):
Howard to one shot you took.
Speaker 7 (02:36):
That's right, it was.
Speaker 8 (02:37):
None of it made sense.
Speaker 7 (02:39):
I don't know, man, this team just tell you.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
You have our picture, Crick, I tell you right now.
Let me just say right off the bat that I won.
I got distracted by Mickey when he said something about
the tight ends and I went with, yeah, you went
with foe.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
And got you picked the wrong You pick?
Speaker 7 (02:57):
Why would he pick that one of all people?
Speaker 8 (03:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (03:02):
The league, but what you.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
Know who I was gonna pick? And I texted Mickey
later of the next was it? The next day when
Jalen Brooks and Jay and Jalen Cropper were both elevated
for the practice squad, I said, Ryan Illinois, it.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
Don't count if you don't know he didn't have phone,
We didn't.
Speaker 8 (03:26):
I still get intent.
Speaker 7 (03:31):
Right there. We considered it.
Speaker 8 (03:35):
You act like I'm in a third world.
Speaker 7 (03:37):
You are in the third world. That's exactly what that is.
The third world. I couldn't wait for this.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
First of all, I counted you out right away talking
about freaking spam for it. Then this guy talking about Aubrey.
He missed his first extra point? Right, you had Aubrey?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
He did?
Speaker 7 (03:53):
I did? Yeah, you know what?
Speaker 5 (03:55):
He had Brandon off.
Speaker 8 (03:56):
And when I watched him warm up, I'm going, boy,
I got it right. He did not miss a kick
off the little ball hole. He did not miss the
kick when they were practicing with a holder and a
snapper and the whole thing, And I'm going, he's going
to hit one from sixty. There was no wind. It
was still beautiful, beautiful. You don't get it right. And
(04:20):
then he missed the extra.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
Miss it but it was a forty eight yard extra.
Speaker 7 (04:24):
Guys, but still real, go for him.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Let's just make it.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
Can we make this a rule on the on the show,
we cannot say anything bad about Brandon Aubrey.
Speaker 7 (04:35):
We really say anything.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Really, We're lucky he's on the table. We are lucky
on the table because he shouldn't be on the table.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Did heckma heave?
Speaker 7 (04:43):
Oh heckma?
Speaker 6 (04:44):
Come on, man, knocked it out the park. You don't
even see the ball. That's right, Williams. Come on, running back,
tell you he had Look, man, we talked all we
talked about blue and the change up, and I said
on Friday, I'm like, forget all that.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
You know, you got a running back that can get
it done.
Speaker 7 (04:59):
Can you teach him this which balls to the other hand?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Right now?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Come on, man, did you see him? He was trying
to stiff on with his hand. How you he's running
with the ball here? The defenders here looked like he
was trying to stiff on with the wrong hand.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Since which did hit when he got the ball knocked
out in Chicago?
Speaker 7 (05:15):
It was here?
Speaker 5 (05:16):
It was in the left left. Yeah, that's why he's
keeping in the right now.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Well, nobody's coming up behind him now, I mean, come on,
he's got his strung. All he had to do was
switch it over and he could have piled his way
through keeping that.
Speaker 8 (05:28):
But if he hadn't, the half would have been over. Yeah,
they were out of timeouts.
Speaker 7 (05:33):
I think he would have.
Speaker 8 (05:35):
Well if he didn't though, Yeah, if he didn't get
out of the yeah you thank them five offensive? Why
they were going to run sixty six yards like ten seconds?
Speaker 7 (05:46):
Well, he didn't either.
Speaker 8 (05:47):
The half would have out anyway.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
Well, every started at what nineteen No, it.
Speaker 8 (05:53):
Ended in nineteen seconds.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
Plenty of time to get down there.
Speaker 7 (05:57):
Just spike it.
Speaker 8 (05:58):
Let's just let's just let's second sixty six yards because
you know they were all at the line of what.
Speaker 7 (06:04):
Was the final score, and I had thirty to twenty.
Speaker 8 (06:09):
That's right, Come on, man, I blew we had the twenties.
Speaker 7 (06:14):
I blew.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, y'all had the twenties covered that twenty four to twenties.
I had no confidence. I told you, we gotta keep scoring.
You said that you gotta keep scoring. You think twenty
is gonna help out.
Speaker 8 (06:22):
I didn't know they would do it with four backups
on the.
Speaker 7 (06:24):
H you go, man, only me? And really why I
picked the entire old line.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
When you think of the thirty seven points, it wasn't
like they got a lot of teams. You get thirty
seven points, you're gonna have a block field goal for
a touchdown, you're gonna have a fumble return scoop and
score a pick six.
Speaker 7 (06:42):
Or we didn't even have a nice big return.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
These were a couple of couple of ninety nineties around drives.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah, yeah, that's when that, that reminded me of old
school Cowboys right there, go.
Speaker 7 (06:53):
Into a hostile environment.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Odds against you really, because they were, oh, you can't
go in five, and they're not going to go on five.
You got this hard nose coach over here. You know
they're just losing just by a little bit of every game.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
No, man, you said hostile environment. Mickey was there. It
was not seasonably and seasonably hot day eighty five degrees
and so what were the stands like in the sun,
no wind, Because you look at college football games like
in Waco on Saturday, it looked like nobody's at the game. Well,
(07:29):
everybody's under the cover. And because it even when it's
eighty something degrees, I mean we're used to one hundred degrees
hot here. Well, but that is hot.
Speaker 8 (07:40):
In the crowd, they announced eighty one thousand, there were
not any one thousand and a lot of empty seats,
and the Cowboys fans bought up tickets. They were loud.
It was amazing, how many.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
I tell you what helps the Cowboys especially this year
because it's been hot here the whole month of September,
and I mean they're practicing on his practice field out here.
Helps him in a game like yesterday.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Well, you we never I don't think we've ever gotten
beaten because of fatigue and had nothing to do with it,
just lack of assignments.
Speaker 8 (08:10):
Well, they couldn't have done all that offensive stuff without
those four backups playing the way they did absolutely incredible
and that was the first time those five guys had
played in the game together. Nate Thomas makes his first
NFL start and he apologizes to Dak afterwards, said I
can do better. Really well, I'm watching and he was
(08:32):
doing pretty damn good.
Speaker 7 (08:34):
Who was going up against you, boy? Uh oh? Quinn
was his name, Quinny william Quinn.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
So it was TJ Bass. It was TJ.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
Bass, and brock Hoffman had a lot of that and
also Terrence Steele, so he was switching between the A
and the B gap a lot of times. They were
running a bunch of stunts also when they did have
some success applying any pressure.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
But that Quinn Williams was a non factor.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
That's what I was.
Speaker 8 (08:57):
Three tackles, it was.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
He was a non factor.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
The linebackers much of the off the defensive line for me,
which I came into this game expected for them to
be a lot more stout based off of what I
had been seeing, and it just seemed to me and
for Dak Prescott, him coming to the line of scrimmage,
you know, changing the plays, but also the way that
this run game was just dicing them up first down
(09:22):
to me was so important in this game because you
heard it was the announcer the tight end for Olson,
he mentioned marrying the running game with the passing game,
and a lot of people on Twitter have made a
lot about that. I don't think they understand what that means.
But on first down, if it looks like it's going
to be a running play and most of the defenses
(09:43):
sinking down and then next thing you know, you're getting
gashed and hit over the top.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
You know, I saw a lot of that for guys.
Speaker 7 (09:50):
Like your favorite tight end.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
I told you, Yeah, I told you, but you know,
hitting Ford, but also Flinoy behind the safety. But man,
that touchdown to Pickens, it just to me, it just
shows when everything is clicking, when that running game is
running so smooth, and those linebackers have to adjust.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
To play action. Look at how easy it makes everything.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
And so that's what when it's when you don't know,
even on first down, if they're gonna run a pass,
that just puts a defense in the blender. And you
saw that on Sunday. If you can double down on
that effort in every game that you're going to be
in and your running game is clicking like that, it's
gonna be hard to compete with the way that Dak
Prescott and Brian Schottenheimer this offense, the way that they're
(10:37):
calling it right now, because it's scary to think about
the way that he's clicking right now.
Speaker 8 (10:41):
Well, he had four seconds. I went back and looked
at it to throw that football to Pickens, and he's
in man coverage, right, He's against man coverage and.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
The top paid cornerback.
Speaker 8 (10:52):
And I don't know how well they showed it, but
I described it as Sauce was playing grabby atchy. He
just kept grabbing and grabbing him and grabbing him and
he couldn't catch up.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
No, I love it when they don't call the penalty
on those because both of those guys are hand fighting down.
Speaker 8 (11:08):
Yeah, play, but he fought it off.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
And how about Pickings being able to make the play?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Likes to catch, Yes, after fighting him off, He's pushing, pushing, pushing.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
He almost missed it, you know, because but he corralled it.
Speaker 8 (11:20):
Just none of all that stop stuff happens unless it's
for those that offensive line. They don't run for one
hundred and eighty yards, the DAK doesn't throw for four touchdowns,
they don't total four hundred and sixteen yards offense if
those guys don't play the way they did. And you
got to give credit to those offensive line coaches on
(11:41):
this team. We talked, We gave the last week there
was a reason why Clayton Atams he should name the
offensive coordinator because he's an offensive line and they hired
an offensive line coach with Connor outside.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
But when we talked about it last week, that's why
I believe in them. Yeah, because TJ. Bass came in
it did well right away, and Hasso and.
Speaker 7 (12:01):
He and Haffma.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
So I don't think it's a stretch that these guys,
especially as much as you've been talking about Nate, I
don't think it was a stretch at all to pick
those guys to play.
Speaker 7 (12:11):
Well.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Here's the other thing, and I agree with you on
the offensive line coaches. I also want them to get
a shout out to Will McLay and the whole scouting
staff on it. I track this stuff because I do
the preseason games, and so I have to know who
all these backup offensive linemen are on other teams, and
most teams in the league, including the Cowboys in the past,
(12:33):
you go to camp with fifteen or sixteen offensive linemen
and the bottom ten guys on that roster are the
ones that are playing in the games that I'm calling,
and usually there are five or six of them that
are college free agents. But what the Cowboys did this year,
there was like one rookie which is the sixth round
draft pick, plus Tyler Booker, the first round draft pick,
(12:55):
all the other guys, and this is very unusual for
NFL teams. They were guys who were second third year
guys in the league that they brought in. There was
competition to try to establish depth on this offensive line.
I mean, I've got a list of twenty guys here
that they've had through here, whether it was at the
start of training camp, off season, or whatever. And these
(13:17):
are the guys that made the cut basically. And these
are guys some of them, like Hakeemadnagy, they've started games
before in the league. Remember they brought Sadiq Charles in.
They brought these guys in that have previous starting experience
so when you get in a pinch like this, they
can step in and you don't lose a beat. And
Rob Jones too, but yeah, Rob Jones is another one
(13:39):
that they signed in free agency.
Speaker 8 (13:40):
And don't don't discredit or forget what the tight ends
did because they played a lot of two tight ends
and those three guys were blocking right and did a
really nice job. So Lunda Wells, you know, Clayton and
even Ramon Ching young. Uh, those guys they put intentionally.
(14:03):
Shottenheimer made an intentional attempt to say, we're gonna run
the ball. And if I'm gonna run the ball, I
got to establish an offensive line and he got coaches.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
To be able to do that.
Speaker 8 (14:14):
I mean, you just don't get those young guys like
that to go in and play the way they did.
It should have been disaster.
Speaker 7 (14:21):
Can you you can see that.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
The reward to the tight ends is that we are
running the ball right, because that allows them to leak
out and get the catches that they're making. This is
all a part of it. It's almost like a reward.
We're gonna block, We're gonna make you block.
Speaker 7 (14:38):
Ferguson. We're gonna make you block all the span for it.
But also we're gonna get you out there.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
You're gonna get some touches, and so to me, I
think that's a nice little candy.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I'm sorry not to let you off.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
There can the apology to Jake Ferguson be as loud
as the sarcasm as it was towards. I'm just asking
TuS me. I've been on a few shows where I
love Jake Ferguson. I call his nickname for me is
fird Kittle Kelsey. I group him in with the best
fight ends. I believe in the league, and I think
(15:11):
number eighty seven has shown flashes of that cowboy Fans
have been waiting for it. And then you know, with
the way that the national media and everybody kind of
lumps the Cowboys into a don't care about what they
do in the regular sees is what they do in
the playoffs. But when you find a tight end like
this that is giving you that threat to your defense,
and you have to account for me he scored on
(15:33):
a screen number one.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
I mean the kind of wheels.
Speaker 6 (15:37):
That you have to have to score on the tight
end screen and the confidence that you have to have.
It's not a lot of guys in the league that's
running that. I have to say, And I talked about
this last week. I like him down the field, That's
what I talked about. I want to get him down
the field as opposed to these little dumpoffs because he's
not breaking tackles, which he still didn't break any tackles yesterday,
(15:59):
but set him up with better plays such as the screen.
Speaker 7 (16:02):
So to me, that's a that's a great alternative.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
You got him blocking, he had a he had a
catch yesterday for minus two yards, and and so to me,
that's not his fault. I want him to get the screens.
I want him in the scenes more often. And I
saw that we missed him.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
Apology.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
He should apologize. Oh my goodness, what was he doing.
It was a perfect, perfect call. He was open, the
safety was out of position. All he had to do
was put it in there. So yeah, I like him,
and I do apologize as long as they're giving him
ways to open it up as opposed to being that
guy that we just dump off for three yards.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Yeah, if we could get a quarterback in here.
Speaker 7 (16:49):
You expect perfectionion. I mean you see profession All of
a sudden, He's like, book, what the hell does happened?
Speaker 8 (16:54):
He raised his quarterback reading to one o one one, Right,
he was pretty darn good.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
Yeah, it was all.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Right, And that was a pretty good, pretty darn good
first segment to the show. You know, it's amazing how
much better the shows are when the Cowboys play like
they do it on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
How about that?
Speaker 5 (17:10):
All right, let's see if we can do it again
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Speaker 5 (19:37):
Pick win for the Cowboys much needed win and expected
they were expected to go in there when they took
care of business and it was a blowout win. That
was what this team needed as much as anything you see.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
On the rundown on Friday and said, win the winnables.
That's just I just wanted to.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
Do it and win them where you can breathe easy. Okay,
That's what this team needed as much as anything when
and when where you can breathe easy, And that's what
they were able to do. And so this is a
final score of thirty seven to twenty two, but it
wasn't as close astro.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
And it was it was like like spags talked about.
It was the way we did it. We did it
with professionalism. We were consistent. You know, we did what
we were supposed to do. I didn't think we had
a lot of penalties in the game, not against us
UH and especially at.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Yeah, didn't cause problems.
Speaker 7 (20:34):
And that's even better. Yeah, that's even better.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
You didn't let those game wasn't close enough to wear
ten penalties ten.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
Ten game could have gotten pretty close there if not
for one play, which one marislea feul.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
Yes, that was it.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
They were driving, punching that ball out. In fact, Schottenheimer
said after the game that he thinks he's the best
in the league of doing that. Well. Young in the league,
but he's got three now and force bumbles in his career.
Speaker 8 (21:04):
You got to make plays on defense. You got to
do things like.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
They were getting run on. Yes, Cowboys defense was getting.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Run on the same play, the same play right right
in the big gap.
Speaker 7 (21:16):
Come on, man, what are we doing here?
Speaker 6 (21:18):
We talked, We talked about this defense though all of
last week and just the adjustments that need to be
made by coach Eberflus. But one of the things that
we kind of settled in on is that we although
we were tested first game against the Eagles, we kind
of felt like this would be a test, you know,
and the running game last week was as well, but
we corralled them at home. But look, Breese Hall is
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really good. And when you got it, when you have
you're in a situation where you have to pick your poison.
It was we're not going to let Geartt Wilson victimize us.
And so as we transitioned, obviously to to defense, I
think it was the pressure, the pressure that was presented
that made everything so much easier that first drive. I
don't know about you, but that first drive when they
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were driving down the field, I'm saying to myself, you
have got to be kidding me. Why does this continue
to happen to us? I mean, our defense is getting
ran through like.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
A third down place. Once again, it was could not
get off the field, and this first third down defense
in the league. And Garrett Wilson for sixteen on third
and five, Breeseaw for twenty two on third and one
and converted again on third and one after getting a
penalty on third and five, and then fields quarterback sneak.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
And then you gotta go to Sally because Solomon Thomas
on the goal line made a hell of a play.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
Well, the whole credit off the Jets offensive line. Don't
want to take anything away from Sally on that.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
You gotta give it to him.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
That's one of my players.
Speaker 7 (22:52):
They missed it.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
It was one of those It remember the preseason when
Mazie made that tackle black Field and nobody blocked.
Speaker 13 (22:59):
In right, got to take advantage. Nobody wanted you and
saw that, what that's my pig.
Speaker 8 (23:10):
Then we found out that Dante Fowler was on the
field try first.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
Time got we got one of the potential greatest plays
in Cowboys history was stolen from us by the skycamp.
Speaker 8 (23:25):
Oh yeah, that's going to be the interception that play?
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Yes, and how about Justin Fields throws the ball, It
caroms off Dante Fowler's helmet, goes so high in the
air that it hits the sky camp. And if you
go look at the all twenty two there's Kinney Clark.
He beat his He was right there and he was
tracking that ball.
Speaker 14 (23:49):
He was like Willie Mays going back on the ball
in the center field. He had a beat on that
ball and he was about to catch it. I had
Josh justin Field there with him. It would have been
a great battle to see if Justin.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
Fields could bring down Kenny Clark in the open field.
And the damn skycam got in the.
Speaker 8 (24:11):
Knocked it straight down falls bouncing in the air. That's
two right, one second left against the Packers and the
ball went straight down.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
That would have been such a great play. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (24:23):
No, but Fowler showed up right and and then he
has a great game. He took advantage of the rookie
right tackle.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
Five quarterback pressures.
Speaker 8 (24:31):
Yeah, and they ended up with five sacks in one game.
They had five sacks in four games. So yeah, the
defense finally got some pressure.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Now.
Speaker 8 (24:42):
I think the other thing that happened, and you guys
tell me if you noticed it, but Trayvon Diggs seemed
like he knew how to play football again to Ron
Bland playing well on the other side, and they started
playing more man coverage to start the game, and it
was working, but they were also blitzing a little so
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I don't know if that caused them to get gashed
in the running game.
Speaker 7 (25:08):
But now they're running game. They were just getting gashed.
Speaker 8 (25:10):
They were getting gashed up front, right, But at least
they didn't give up any big passes down the field
like we've been used to seeing.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
So Super Bowl twenty five playing against the team that
can do both things very well, Buffalo Bills. Right, pick
your poison. If you can't stop them both stop one,
stop one.
Speaker 8 (25:32):
Just don't get beaten with big plays, right.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
So usually that means we're gonna cover the pass, and
we're gonna we're gonna we don't want to give you
the rust, but we're gonna cover the pass. Okay, whatever
comes up in the in the middle of that, that's fine.
We gotta pick our poison. I'd rather go with you
gashing me for twenty than killing me over the top
for forty five and fifty.
Speaker 8 (25:55):
You realize they played one ye Thomas making the start
of the snaps.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
He did every play and it wasn't perfect, but he
still he did. He did a good job uh in
coverage as well. But guys like James Houston. You bring
up Fowler and Sam Williams, who I think people have
been down on a little bit.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Sam Wave. Sam Williams also had a showing.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
But that's the difference that pressure can make for those
guys in the secondary. And when you talk about that, listen,
you you have to take away something. We know this
this running. This run defense hadn't been perfect. But at
the same time, if you're going to give up something
to a breeze hall and limit them on the back end,
you knew that you would get shots at justin fields.
He holds onto the ball too long. They mentioned it
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in the broadcast. He is number one in the league
holding on to the ball, so that because he doesn't
know what he's.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Seeings, he didn't know what the biggest.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
And he's And the thing is is that they are
working with him to release the ball quicker. It's not
that he doesn't have the options, he just doesn't trust.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Did you see.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
When he was able to release quickly guy hanging off
of him on the.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
Two point conversion.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Yeah, and he just just throws it out there on
the dime while this guy's hanging off of him. So
that's the potential of what he has when he gets
rid of it quickly.
Speaker 8 (27:11):
And I don't know if you guys thought this the
a two touchdowns in the fourth quarter, I thought the
Cowboys were playing defense against the clock. Yes, they were,
no doubt, because they backed off they were starting to
play zone. It's like Okay, if you're going to score,
you're going to have to go eighty yards.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
We're not doing that. We're not doing this Giants crap anymore. Yah,
that's not going to happen.
Speaker 7 (27:29):
And that's what the.
Speaker 5 (27:30):
Same way the Lions played against the Bengals yesterday. Bengal,
it was a blowout game and the Angles scored three
touchdowns three touchdown passes in the fourth quarter to make
it thirty seven to twenty four.
Speaker 7 (27:39):
It really wasn't the club. It wasn't that closse.
Speaker 8 (27:41):
Yeah, so they were playing the clock and you know,
when you're you score thirty seven, you can do that.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
And we don't have a defense yet. Yeah, that can
take advantage of it the way they should. So we
just kind of laid back, and to me, that's the
smart way to go. And it's not like you're relenting
at all. You just got to be smart.
Speaker 8 (28:00):
And they played the young guys.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
Can I ask you this, James, Yes, I was just okay,
Shamar James him filling in for Samborn. The difference that
that made in the deep.
Speaker 8 (28:10):
Well they were playing, they were they moved Murray to
the middle and then Leah Fowl and James were on
the wing.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
But but James was getting in the game and the
nickel or dimed, yes, early in the game.
Speaker 8 (28:21):
Right from the start, right he was, he was on
the nickel and and he's so athletic. They used these
young guys. Let him play. You know, Nate loves to
hear this, right, lay those young guys right and and
I thought that made a difference the speed they had it. Yes,
now it didn't help with the run stopping, but I
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think they helped in past coverage underneath and limited what
they did underneath. So yeah, if you look at that,
you know, you got Ready Stewart out there in the slot.
You got your two young linebackers playing. They had a
lot of guys in there. A guy and it was
as a roku.
Speaker 7 (29:03):
Uh did you see the play start?
Speaker 8 (29:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's got something, So yeah, let those
guys play.
Speaker 7 (29:10):
By the way.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
On Shamar James, something we talked about last week, and
he's a young player. He just turned twenty one this
summer and very young player.
Speaker 8 (29:18):
ACKI Florida last year at Florida.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
But at Florida, remember we talked about Now, I was
talking about Jaden Blue and it took and Jalen Tolbert
took time and for them in college to get on
the field now with Blue and he had Bjon Robinson
Bland in front of him, and whoever Texas has a
running back. But Shamar James as a true freshman at Florida,
he goes in there and he's a starter immediately, okay,
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and for three years he's done that. And so a guy,
I think, and I've just noticed this as I studied
the draft prospects and so forth. Typically a guy who
can go from high school and immediately starting college you
can get you can expect maybe that same transition when
they come into the NFL. And I think you're seeing
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that with Shamar Jame. It's a makeup that guys have
it to a maturity level, a mental makeup where they
can be trusted by coaches and stuff and be able
to get on the field and play quicker.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
That was and it's and it's also the fact that
you're a dog and you have the athleticism to get
it done. And that's a very hard transitions as you
as you as you're stating for a guy to go
from high school to go to college and play immediately.
I just think that when we were watching a little
bit of practice last week and we saw Murray at
the middle linebacker. You saw him and Ebra Flues working
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on this field over here on being a spy, and
he did a damn good job at that. I think
only just a few runs that justin fields have where
he was able to, you know, walk off with his
legs and pick up first downs, but those were few
and far in between in the game that you felt like,
competitive wise, he would show you a little bit more
with his legs, but he had so many other things
to worry about the yesterday that he didn't even get
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a chance to take advantage of his legs and being everyone.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
A fresh face yesterday watching this guy, man, I mean
he's ready for some yag.
Speaker 7 (31:13):
Yes, he's ready for some yag. Man. He was thirsty
yesterday and I.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
Was thinking last week he made it. There was a
catch last week last week. Yeah, but it was just
the body language and yeah, explosion guy that I was like, Oh,
this guy's got something.
Speaker 7 (31:31):
And he showed that yesterday as well. It was a
couple and he was gone. I thought he was gone.
I thought he was gone.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
Yes, I think that's why. That's why. And Seawn Nimers
talked about how good he is as a gunner on
special teams and so when obviously when Turpin was down
as well as Lamb, he was going to get his opportunities.
But what really told you was when they elevated Cropper
and Brooks. And by the way, Brooks played well on
special teams as a gunner himself.
Speaker 7 (31:59):
Who what's books number eighty three? Yes, yeah, so he was.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Ropper was called up to replace Turping returning punts and
fair fair catching punts.
Speaker 8 (32:10):
And what I asked, who's returned punts? And whoever told
the adswer said, Cropper's got a fair catcher.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
Yeah, there you go. And then Brooks was replacing Illinois
on special teams as a gunner.
Speaker 7 (32:24):
They have to pay at that happened.
Speaker 8 (32:27):
He's having a big day, and that's what you get
for guy's targets come from the South suburbs of Chicago.
Speaker 7 (32:34):
Come on, I.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
Want to throw that out. Who're you talking about?
Speaker 8 (32:40):
Well, no, I like him.
Speaker 7 (32:42):
I like him.
Speaker 8 (32:43):
He grew up one suburb over from where.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
He seemed to be. I would Turping number two. You know,
he seems to be that he seemed to be a
little some different. Talk to him.
Speaker 6 (32:55):
I'm just saying, as far as the balance that you're
talking about, how sure he is with this hands and
you'd love to see guys take advantage of their opportunities.
And Dak yesterday in the postgame interview, he basically said,
you know, they were talking about the offensive line and
he says that, you know, I went to these guys
and told told them I got my opportunity like this.
(33:17):
Now it's now it's time for you to get And
that's and that's just leadership. That's just leadership. That's a
guy that's that's proven and tested, who've come through the
ranks and had to step up because of an injury.
And Flanoy to me, I think you know, when he
was drafted, he kind of sat in the back end
of shadows for a while. We really didn't even know
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what we had in him. And then finally when you
see him start to emerge. It was the last game,
and I think your Obera went up like, wait a minute, man,
this guy got a little something. And then this game
where all we were talking about was Tobert and the
opportunity that he was going to get, Flinoyd just stole
that spot, like and man recognized that when we.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Keep talking, when I keep talking about what I want
from Tobert got for that's what I saw.
Speaker 8 (34:02):
Well, you know what. And the other thing is Dak
had the confidence to go to him, so he had,
you know, because I'm sure that.
Speaker 7 (34:13):
He catch this dair ball, because I would put it
in that.
Speaker 8 (34:16):
He can trust that they're going to be trust but
they need to be Yeah, because that deep ball he
wasn't totally open, right, he came back beat the guy.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Well that's by design because uh, even the pickens wasn't
totally open, right. Do you kind of throw it open
to where he likes to receive it to cut off
the dB. I don't think he necessarily likes seeing it
over the outside shoulder. Dak likes to throw it to
where the receiver once he's got his shoulder in front
of him and he has his leverage on him. He
likes to see him come inside. They trust me, they
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see it, they see it.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
He's an example of they come from all places. And
in contrast to what we talked about with Shamar James
being so young, having just turned twenty one, Illinois, ILLINOI
is nearly five years older than Shamar James. He turns
twenty six later this month. But here's a guy lightly
recruited out of Mickey's neighborhood in Cholo High School, almost
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as lightly recruited as Mickey was. But he goes to
Central Missouri for three years, has to deal with COVID
during that, okay, and transfers to a junior college Iowa
Western Community College, and then winds up at Southeast Missouri State.
But you talk about his explosion. Okay, this is where
he got on NFL Scouts radars. It's the four to
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four speed, it's the forty vertical, it's the eleven foot
broad jump nineteen venture athlete.
Speaker 8 (35:44):
And he was a truck guy.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
Yeah yeah, yeah, and he's he's showing that on the field.
Speaker 7 (35:49):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 8 (35:50):
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Speaker 5 (38:24):
Oh what a big weekend that's going to be. Who
guess who's coming in that weekend? The Washington Commanders.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
H looking good too.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
Eagles lose yesterday?
Speaker 3 (38:37):
How about that? Yeah? How about that good old Eagles.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
We could see Sean Payton goes for two, went for two.
Speaker 7 (38:45):
Uh huh.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
I was not ready for that team and it wasn't
at the end of the gay it was it was
fourth quarter, yeah, and you know they were down seventeen
three going into the fourth Yeah. And I like the
fact that he did it in that case because he
wasn't putting the game on that, but he knew there
were gonna be other possessions. But he's kind of put
the confident confidence in his own team, and he put
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the Eagles on notice that hey, we're gonna beat you.
Speaker 6 (39:11):
They were undefeated coming into this into that game, and
they are the most they were the most dysfunctional, unbeaten
team of all the teams in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
That the locker room in you can see it coming.
Speaker 6 (39:22):
You know, at some point it's just like and they're
being critique and I'm saying to myself, these are the
world champions.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
These are the guys that you would think.
Speaker 6 (39:30):
I mean, obviously you get the narrative throughout the season
is going to change, right, but man, that the dysfunction
is I think is really wild.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
They're missing more. Barkley got six carries yesterday.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Kellen Moore did not.
Speaker 6 (39:50):
Come into it, never come into any locker room saying
let's run the ball, guys.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
You know, No, here's here's what where I say that
they've got an new offensive coordinator who's trying to win
the respect of his talent on his team. And you've
seen where A. J. Brown's not getting any balls whatsoever.
And I didn't watch the game. I was watching the
Cowboy game, but you know they're sitting there going.
Speaker 7 (40:14):
He was getting covered. He was getting covered yesterday.
Speaker 5 (40:17):
And and everywhere. He's got a way to satisfy all.
And DeVante Smith had more numbers.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
Yeah, one hundred yards last year last I think, yeah,
and so.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
But anyway, and you get up seventeen to three, you
should be feeding Barkley left and right. And he got
six carries on bill.
Speaker 6 (40:34):
No one has ever put telling more and running game
in the same sentence.
Speaker 8 (40:38):
Well, what did last year?
Speaker 5 (40:40):
Until last year?
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Last year?
Speaker 8 (40:42):
For two?
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Sirianni told him.
Speaker 16 (40:45):
Well, he's telling them if you want to keep you,
if you want to keep here, you better run his
damn ball you got Barkley.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
I mean, you talk about embarrassing.
Speaker 8 (40:57):
So why didn't happened in this year?
Speaker 3 (40:59):
They were No, they just lost one game, have.
Speaker 8 (41:02):
One less loss than the Cowboys.
Speaker 7 (41:04):
That's right, think about it. I'm loving it.
Speaker 8 (41:10):
One less loss.
Speaker 7 (41:11):
It looks just everything just looks better than that has
to win more.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
Right, It's not so much Kellen Moore. It's a new
offensive coordinator that's trying to, okay, figure out this thing.
Speaker 8 (41:24):
But didn't they have changes on the offensive line too.
Speaker 5 (41:27):
They've got their offensive line is not as what do
it playing as well as what it was. They've had
some injury issues.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
Oh, we don't do any complaining about offensive line.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
The defense is clearly what carries Philadelphia been carrying them
all season long.
Speaker 7 (41:39):
That's just facts.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
I wouldn't worry about necessarily the defense having you know,
coming unhooked, unhinged. But offensively I could see this coming.
You knew it was going to.
Speaker 7 (41:51):
Have issues last year.
Speaker 5 (41:52):
I mean even with Kellen Moore. Yeah, I mean until
they got on a roll late in the season and
they have a system on how to in games if
they can establish the run with Barkley you know, and
get into I think that's.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
What kind of smoothed them out last year, was they
just they stuck with it and they got better at it.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Especially in the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (42:12):
Here's the other thing with Barkley, he has a lot
of negative runs. Okay, Adrian Peterson was like this too,
where I know what, going back to when he was
at Oklahoma. Yeah, there were a ton of no yards
on that carry, one yard on that carry, and then
he'll break one, and so you have to keep pressing
it with him. And the Barkley's got a lot of
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zero yard carries, a lot of one yard carries, and
then he'll go sixty.
Speaker 7 (42:37):
That's what Tom Landy always said about Tony does said too.
Speaker 6 (42:41):
I mean, this is totally off the subject and being
around you guys too long, but watching Penn State, and
I'm used to seeing Penn State running backs be great
and even in the National Football League, but watching I
don't know if you saw the Penn State UCLA.
Speaker 5 (42:54):
Game saw about it. I didn't see it.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (42:57):
It's just to me when you see a team that
you used to see seeing a certain pedigree coming from them,
and I think that's what we're talking about about Philadelphia,
just the running game being non existent. I'm just not
used to seeing certain teams Damely, Penn State, Frank o'harris
and all the great running backs that come through Happy
Valley for them not to have one. And man, I
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just think it really is impactful on every level when
you don't have a running game and State.
Speaker 5 (43:23):
I thought that's what they had coming back. I thought
they had two running backs coming back.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (43:27):
I guess it's just one of those things for me, Philly,
what you're talking about. I think the longest run for
Saquon had he hadn't even broken a twenty yard or
so this season, which at this point he last year.
I think he'd had like five or six, you know,
up until this point.
Speaker 5 (43:44):
All Right, I just said the break before this, we're
not going to talk about the rest of the leagas
seven was saving for tomorrow. But we might as now
that we've started down this road. How about Derrick Henry.
Speaker 8 (43:53):
That's what I was going to bring up.
Speaker 5 (43:54):
Okay, and Cooper rush starts yesterday for baltimorem hm. And
it shows what a difference it when you don't have
the threat, whether the run threat or the vertical passing
threat with your quarterback and they can And Derrick Henry
had thirty yards on fifteen carries or something like that yesterday.
I mean at one point he was eleven Garris for
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thirteen yards or something. And and uh Cooper rushed through
three picks in the second half. Of that, they get
blown out by the Texans. And uh in Baltimore, right
in Baltimore.
Speaker 8 (44:28):
And by the way, Jane and Daniels returns. And what's
his name?
Speaker 7 (44:32):
Bruce?
Speaker 5 (44:34):
The running back Bill Bill. It's the first first running
back name Bill in the National Football League since Bill
Jones played for the Chiefs thirty years ago.
Speaker 8 (44:44):
And Bill broke out with a big fat yes.
Speaker 5 (44:49):
No one's proving it wrong. I asked Ai, who was
the last running back?
Speaker 6 (44:56):
Bill?
Speaker 3 (44:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (44:58):
That set whether it said.
Speaker 5 (45:00):
Yet says the last one was Bill Jones out of
Corsicana High School. And of course.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
This is the guy you don't play guests with.
Speaker 6 (45:10):
His mind is full of useless information.
Speaker 8 (45:13):
All the Bills William met running back For gosh.
Speaker 7 (45:20):
We have William Andrews. Come on, man, that's Bill William Andrews.
You don't know about his mom. His mom may have
called him Bill. He may aunt called him Billy.
Speaker 5 (45:33):
I gotta asked William Andrews, when did he play in
the eighties? I got a photographer named William Andrews here,
All right, go ahead, What were you knowing about Bill
Crosskey Merritt? No, he scored two touchdowns?
Speaker 8 (45:45):
Yeah, And Jayden Daniels was playing again. So when you
have a quarterback that's a threat, that certainly helps your
running back, right and and that's what's happening in Baltimore
right now.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
Well, I mean that's what happened here with the Cowboys
right now. We have at this point, we have an
extremely well balanced offense.
Speaker 7 (46:04):
Period.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
We have a quarterback who's just seems to be in
a comfort zone that he hadn't seen.
Speaker 7 (46:13):
I hadn't seen him in quite some time.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Even this MVP year almost MVP year, was that three
years ago when you were doing well.
Speaker 5 (46:20):
William Andrews, by the way, played from nineteen seventy nine
to nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 7 (46:24):
Okay again, I said eighty eighties. That was price, I
said the eighties.
Speaker 5 (46:29):
So I'm still looking for another Bill who played running
William Man is William or William I'll even open it
up to William. That's no, no. But Bill Jones was
nineteen ninety one or ninety two. That's the last one.
I have a record of a Bill that played running
back in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (46:48):
We got to check that.
Speaker 6 (46:49):
Man, he said, I want to find one.
Speaker 7 (46:52):
I want to find one way. I call you William.
Speaker 6 (46:58):
William So I'm with you on that, man, But seeing
Dak in this game also seven carries for twenty eight yards,
his willingness to run, that's something that I thought, I'm
telling you, coming into this season, I would not have
bet that he would be using his legs after a
hamstring injury. You know, that'd be the last thing that
I would be expecting from him. And he is coming
in and really in those situations where it's third and short,
(47:21):
third and third and long, he's proving the.
Speaker 5 (47:24):
Buffect going out tight ends covered yep, and he just
tucks it and runs.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (47:29):
That's it.
Speaker 6 (47:30):
I love it. I absolutely love where this offense is
right now. Defensively, that was the hope that you were
talking about last week, and we were using terms like
put it all together, and finally you see a game
where it wasn't perfect, and no one's gonna claim many
we only gave up three points. For a long time,
I'm just saying we only gave up three points. But
I think you can call this putting it all together
(47:51):
and beating the team you're supposed to beat.
Speaker 7 (47:53):
So and see, that's another one we understand.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
Okay, the Jets, they are the Jets, yes, but you're
so supposed to win.
Speaker 7 (48:01):
In that fashion, Well, we made our stride.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
To me was except for the first drive, we showed
what a good team looks like when it goes to
a hostile environment to be the team that's inferior to them.
We did everything everything that we were supposed to do
and the fashion that we were supposed to do it
once again, except for that.
Speaker 7 (48:22):
Last the first drive.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
Everything about that game we looked like a solid team
offensively and defensive.
Speaker 8 (48:29):
And they were only one and a half point favorites.
Speaker 7 (48:32):
And that's something.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Well, you know why, because when we go into in
a hostile environment, we choke.
Speaker 8 (48:39):
Well, that's the first time they won on the road
since some point the end of last year. I think
they had lost four straight on the road and only
gave up technically one sack because Dak was running right.
I don't think you give him a sack on that
when it's obvious when he rolled out.
Speaker 7 (48:59):
Did they give it to him?
Speaker 6 (49:00):
They did for one, just the Micah sack got to
bring up his name once, all right.
Speaker 5 (49:07):
And to wrap things up, Sanborn with a concussion less
the game anything else injury wise.
Speaker 8 (49:13):
That Brooks came back, he limped off and then he
came back.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
They were coming out. He made them come after him
because he was raising hell over there. They're like, we
got to take care of this little guy.
Speaker 8 (49:25):
I think everybody else and uh, they were doing their
workout this morning and I saw guys that had been
in boots not in boots.
Speaker 3 (49:32):
Who's coming back, Mickey, who do we get back?
Speaker 8 (49:35):
Well, if you think about it, Tyler Smith was dressed
and he was in an emergency role, and only because
when they needed to have explain why they needed to
have eight offensive linemen up so they can elevate two
guys off the practice you.
Speaker 5 (49:51):
Can only if you only have seven offensive linemen active,
you can only elevate one guy in the practice squad
they need they needed to elevate two. Jalen's right, So
that's why Tyler Smith was dressed out for the game
with no intention.
Speaker 8 (50:04):
But I think he was getting closer.
Speaker 5 (50:06):
Hey, I saw him in pregame warm ups and he
was looked.
Speaker 8 (50:09):
To be BB was out of his boot, So maybe
you're getting it's.
Speaker 5 (50:14):
Always Jones on the radio this morning was asked about
injuries and the only thing that I saw on Twitter
was BB it'll be after week ten. On overshown, which
we already knew. Yeah, week tens to bye week in November. Uh,
it'll be and BB will be after week ten. Also,
it's what he said.
Speaker 8 (50:33):
And he's on IR, so he has missed four but
at least he's it looks like making some progress. And
CD saw him rehabbing on the resistance cords last week,
so that means he's at least moving and he uh
maybe another week, he'd looked like he was close, So
(50:55):
that's that's encouraging.
Speaker 5 (50:57):
Flo Baby Floa's right, yeah, all right, next man up
and men?
Speaker 3 (51:04):
That's right.
Speaker 8 (51:05):
It's plural, that does it.
Speaker 7 (51:07):
For a eight.
Speaker 5 (51:08):
Victory Monday edition of Mixed Shots.
Speaker 7 (51:14):
Go we got all kind of moves.
Speaker 1 (51:17):
This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and
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