January 10, 2025 • 27 mins
Welcome to Skol Stories presented by 3M - The official science partner of the Minnesota Vikings. Tonight, Mark Rosen and Pete Bercich catch up with former Viking Robert Griffith. Robert documents his early days in California, his personal growth at San Diego St., his journey as an undrafted rookie to the NFL, the importance of practicing against Cris Carter, and his special longtime friendship with former head coach Dennis Green. All of this and more is in this edition of Skol Stories presented by 3M - The official science partner of the Minnesota Vikings.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome to School Stories, presented by three M, official science
partner of the Minnesota Vikings. Tonight we're joined by Viking
legend Robert Griffith.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Thanks again for tuning into another episode of School Stories.
Tonight's guest had a thirteen year NFL career, including an
eight year run with your Minnesota Vikings. Please enjoy tonight's
conversation with legendary safety Robert Griffith.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Hey, Robert, welcome to the show. It's great to catch
up with you. Always is. Once in a while I
run into you one of the Vikings Legends events. You
have the fans a quick update and what you're doing,
how you doing, where are you living? And hou's life.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
That's good Man got married last year to a beautiful lady.
I'm in southern California, still working up getting my licensing
business off the ground, and just really enjoying the last
bit of my family with all the new additions. My
mom and dad are getting a little older, so just
trying to really spend a lot of quality time with
everybody in And also I went back to school. I
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don't know had a bucket list. I went back and
got my MBA. I finished that in twenty twenty three
from Fordham. I went to the Bronx to do that.
So doing a little work with them and just kind
of feeding all the things that feed me, like my
foundation and education and you know, just trying to live
every day the right way.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
So Griff, tell us a little bit more about the
foundation and what is it, where can we find it,
and you know, to get anybody out there listening that
wants to help out.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Yeah. So my foundation I started when I was a
player nineteen ninety seven Frickly for the mission to give
out high school scholarships, I mean college scholarships to high
school seniors. And thus far we put thirty six kids
through school on our own efforts, you know, fundraising, golf tournament,
you name it right. Yeah, it's been a labor of love.
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I had to put it down after two thousand and eight.
All my sponsors dried up and I actually had a
bunch of kids in school that had to take care
of and it's been a true labor of love that
everything that I do as far as nonprofit, I asked
that people donate to that right. So all my charity work,
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I would say, is always for that benefit to put
kids through school. Because, as you guys know, I walked
on in San Diego State. There was not a prayer
in the world that was going to tell me I
would be able to pay for school and be able
to go to practice. And so my third semester, when
I earned that scholarship with a broken arm, you know,
out of nowhere, I felt the compelling need that if
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ever I had a chance, I would give another young
adult the opportunity to feel the way I did when
I got that scholarship. And so that's my mission is,
you know, it's a lifelong mission. You know. My other
goal is to the reason why I started my licensing
company is to not hustle on the nonprofit side and
just to direct a certain portion of my funds to
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my scholarship program. So that's really what my life's worked about.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Interesting, well, you mentioned you ended up at San Diego State.
You were born in Maryland, but you played your high
school ball in California. What were the family travels like?
How did you end up in California with the family.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Yeah, so my dad was a twenty one year Navy
and he was stationed in DC, and my sister and
I were born there, and he retired in nineteen seventy six,
and so we moved out to California because he had
some really really good friends and a couple of job offers,
and so we went all the way across the country
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after my dad got out of the service. And so
that's why I was born in San Diego and that's
why I was raised there. He ended up coming to
San Diego and taking another governmental job, and so that's
why the change my dad was in the military.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Tell us about your'd say, high school football, get us
through that, and then really how you ended up at
San Diego State, because how you walked into that, you know,
into that campus, and how you left as a football
player definitely definitely changed.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
You know. I like to think a lot of people, man,
when I think about just the transformation from went to
high school at Mount McGill in Spring Valley. Shout out
to the Matadors. They actually won the championship this year,
so I want to give them some love. So when
I left there, you know, I graduated high school Pete.
I was five seven, one hundred and fifty three pounds.
I was an All conference cornerback. I had eleven interceptions
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that year my senior year, and I got nothing but
d two scholarship offers Itsaca University, Kyle Lutheran, Sonoma State,
you name it right. And at the time, it was
a big push for all of the San Diego's best
players to stay at home. So Patrick Rowe, wide receiver
was one of the first guys that started it off
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when he stayed the year before I came out. Everybody
in San Diego decided to play for the home town team.
So a lot of guys that I played against in
high school and done very well against, got scholarship and
so you can see I was burning in my seat,
mad that I had played well against a lot of
guys and didn't get an offer. Also, so the stubbornness
in me decided to walk on. They had my degree
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of choice, which was an engineering degree guys don't have,
and great engineering school, so I decided to walk on.
And that's when I was just out to prove myself,
and I think that was a chip on my shoulder
that really kind of carried me through my NFL career.
And so when I got to Santago State, I walked
on my first year and I was crazy. I grew
three inches and twenty two pounds in like eighteen months.
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And then freshman year I broke my arm and that
so I wasn't on scholarship, right, So, if I can
back up, I was waking up. So my freshman year,
I was waking up at four point thirty. I was
working at Macon Distributing, which was a liquor distributor. So
I was a guy just carrying beer in the store,
restaurant and yeah, supermarkets and stuff. Thirty to call it
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eight thirty. I did that. Then I went to class,
then I went to practice, and then repeat, repeat, repeat,
So first semester, second semester, third semester, and I broke
my arm my third semester.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
In football, or did you break a carrying beer?
Speaker 4 (06:15):
And football? I was about to make the team. I
was backing up the starter and we were thirteen fourteen
days from our first game, and I'm running down on
kickoff because we had live special teams back then, and
I go down make a tackle and I throw the
guy to the ground and I break my form, both
phones and my form, and no scholarship. You know, obviously
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no money. Couldn't work the job because I couldn't use
my arm. So I was out fall semester, rolls around
and my mom she, I don't know how she made
it happen. I kind of find out. She told some
jewelry and some other stuff. But my mom paid for school.
And I went out there that spring camp with a brace,
you know, like a little calf on arm, and I
went out and earned a scholarship. I was angry, really
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on my last little bit of had an opportunity. He
had to give me that scholarship. You guys, it was
that much work that I was putting in. And so
that next fall I ended up playing special teams, backing
up the starter and earning my way into the starting position.
So became a team captain in that year, the next
year and my senior year. But you got to remember,
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I played this monster back right, so it was really
a utility back right. So I developed all these skills
covering tight ends, you know, hitting bigger men, et cetera.
So when it was time to go to the NFL,
I was a true tweener with a small body, right,
and they knew I couldn't play linebacker, and they never
really saw that I can play corner or have the
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speed to play corner, and so so you know how
it works. When you can't be labeled, the NFL can
forget about you. And so that's that's really what happened
to me. And so I didn't have an agent at
the time when I came out. I ended up hiring
Marshall Fox agent Rocky Austino, and he called it a
month and a half, two months before the draft, I'm
working out getting ready. He says, I got an end
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for you with the Giant, worst case scenario going to
go free agent there, and something in me told me
to call the Giant. Probably about a month before the
draft that year in nineteen ninety three, I called him up.
I said, hey, you guys got a Robert Griffs on
your board anywhere? And I remember him saying, you know, sorry, son,
we don't well, we think you're a great player, you know,
good luck, et cetera. And so I knew that what
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was being told to me was live, et cetera. So
I ended up not having so fired, Rocky ended up
not having an agent, and I ended up calling my
AAU basketball coach, Bill McCullough. He's the HR director at Meta,
I believe now, and he called a couple of his
agent friends and made a few connections and got me
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up to Canada. So, now you got to remember nineteen
ninety three had the five American Canadian football teams at
the time. We had one in Sacramento, one in Vegas,
one in Baltimore, I think, one in New Orleans they're
somewhere in the South, and one in Florida. And so
he had an inn in Sacramento. Tom Bass was the
GM or the coordinator there, and he had seen me
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play in college and so they brought me up there
for LOUXI.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah, let me ask you griff again. We're talking to
Robert Griffith, longtime safety at the Vikings. You mentioned the
chip on your shoulder. You weren't drafted, So did how
did you end up in the CFL before you and
before eventually signing with the Vikings.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Yeah, so said Bill McCullough. He he had an opportunity
to get me to the Sacramento Canadian football team at
the time, and so I went up there and they
wanted to see if I can play, you know, learn
the rules and so club people on the field, you know,
down downhill motion, et cetera. So I'm practicing with them
for a few weeks, a couple of weeks and I'm
about to go into my first game and I remembered
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the coach calling me up before I go I'm going
into into the game. He says, hey, Griff, we have
been trying to get a hold of you. We actually
traded you this last night to Saskatchewan and uh, you
know league rules, you know you can't play for us,
but you you know, you're their rights, et cetera, et cetera.
And so I didn't have an agent, remember, so I
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called Bill mccullor. I'm like, man, what's you know, what's
going on? Man? And Gatchewan was it was cold out there.
It was like it was October, was like thirteen fourteen degrees.
I remember, they were just an ok team at the time,
and so I decided that it was more important for
me to finish my degree, my engineering degree. So I
ended up flying back home and taking the rest of
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nineteen ninety three that fall to finish my engineering degree.
So I went back to school fall ninety three, all
the way into the spring ninety three. I'm about to graduate.
But what I did do is I started running with
Olympians San Diego State. So we had a big Olympic
contention there because we have the Olympic training center there.
And so I connected with Ron Sheffield, who was currently
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is was currently the Olympic sprinting coach at the time,
and I started working out of Olympians at my speed together,
working out in the gym, et cetera, et cetera. And
I did that all the way from October to April,
and I get a call from Gary's owner. My name
was on the grease board, my number was on the
grease board in the weight room at San Diego State,
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and Gary Zowoner calls me up and say, hey, Griff,
Gary z owner man remember me? And I said remember
you well. Gary had he was at the University of Nevada,
excuse me, University of New Mexico. And he was the
only offer that I got from a D one school
that they ended up not giving me. So I was
the only trip that I took to a d one school.
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I went to New Mexico and he showed me around.
He wanted to sign me, and then they didn't stick around.
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school Stories presented by three M. Let's get back into
our conversation with Vikings legend Robert Griffith. Hey, I want
to ask you about your relationship with with Dennis Green,
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who is your head coach here in Minnesota and in Arizona.
What do you remember most about playing for Dennis and
why did you enjoy playing for him so much?
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Dennis, Denny Green and I were I guess you can
call it kindred spirits, homemates or whatever. We just we
just vibed on the same frequency. And uh, I didn't
really realize that until after I started stopped playing and start,
you know, worked with him with the UFL and whatnot.
But he knew that he just measured the you know,
the man, right, he measured my heart and you know
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I had the skills to do it. But my relationship
with Denny was a lot deeper than I believe that
a lot of people can recognize. So I consider him
one of my best friends. Before he passed away, I
worked with him in the USL. I was essentially his
facto assistant GM. I mean I did everything for the
us I was a GM, I was a personnel director
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and the secondary coach, right my coached safety for him
for a couple of years, and you know, we spent hours, months,
days on the phone. I don't think anybody knows Denny
better than I do, other than his wife. And I
cherished those moments. But so that's my relationship with Dennian.
So you know it kind of carried. It carried all
the way into Arizona, right. You know. So when we
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both left Minnesota in two thousand and one, after that season,
I went to Cleveland for three years, and you know
my contract was up. Jenny just Denny called me up
and said, hey man, you can still play man like
some play for me. And it was an immediate yet
and it was immediate yet.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
So Griff I was gonna say, I was out there
in two thousand and six as a coach during training camp,
and oh, that's right, I think I I I think
what I because wal she was out there with me
and and uh we had a couple other guys too.
But I just remember Denny. He was just different. I
think the the death of Corey Stringer affected him in
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a way.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
You know.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
I I obviously didn't see him that whole, that whole
period of time because my career ended in two thousand,
but that had that that really did affect him, did
it not.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
He was never the same. And you know I went
to Orlando Thomas's, you know, Denny and I together, and
that was that was another another pivotal moment. I would say,
that just just makes you who you are. Man. You know, life,
life's really precious, and you know we're all running out
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here to do our thing, but you know, we gotta
we got to remember the people that were, you know,
doing it with and really honor and cherish them, you know,
while we're sharing our time together. That's really what it
comes down to.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
And from a football standpoint, Robert, during your time here,
you had the practice, You got the practice against some
of the greatest receivers in the game, obviously Randy Moss
and Chris Carter. How did you approach those daily battles
and how did it make you a better player facing
those guys in practice every day.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
I'll tell you this, Man, Without Chris Carter, I don't
I'm not the player that I am, period, hands down,
Lockstock Barrel. I had to cover Chris and the slot
at practice, and man, when I got nothing against these players.
But when I got in the slot against Donny Morden
or any of these other guys, I just did it. Man,
I just I had the confidence and I just did it,
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you know. And when I say that, I won't say
it was easy. But I wasn't worried about being in
the slot with none of them guys. When I went
out to play nickel my first seven years or whatever
in the league, even when I was playing safey, I
was starting to safety, I'll still they bring Tyrone in
the game, I would still go down there and play
nickel because I had the confidence dealing with Chris every day.
Now with Randy, obviously, I didn't have to deal with
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him as much because he was outside of the time,
but we knew that the excellence that we were seeing
was it made us all Sharper you know iron Sharper's iron, right.
It was just one of those traby you know, troubot
fire at practice and when you get put in these
uncomfortable situations, they're not uncomfortable in the game.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
And I remember training camp in ninety eight because I
know Randy was not around for mini camp or anything. Well,
he was around, but he had an ankle injury. And
then it only took a couple of days down in
Mankato before I think you guys, the defensive backs at
our defensive backs realized very quickly how good he was
gonna be.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Oh man, it wasn't even close. My first look at Randy,
I was like, who is this basketball guard in here?
Six four basketball player? Who is this guy? And the
first thing I thought is, oh man, he's gonna get hurt. Man.
I was like, this guy is gonna get hurt. I
just didn't see the strength that he had in that body.
I just I just felt like he's a flyer, but
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he's gonna get hur And what you don't realize is
how strong Randy really is. He's got that wiry frank
man and it was it was just really a pleasure.
Looking back on it, I would have soaked it up
even more, but I think I got a good look
at Randy and what he was going to be that
first year.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
For sure, Robert, you were always a health conscious, even
kind of before it was in vogue. I remember even
doing interviews with you during in the locker room, you
always had some sort of special drink that you would
make and mix up. So why was that important? I
continued throughout kind of your life and made it your
kind of one of your goals to have that health
issue being number one.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
It was priority number one. It was just like the
tenements of just how I live my life right, I'm
going to be in the best shape of my life
and I'm going to take care of myself the best
way I know possible. And to do that, it was,
you know, training obviously, but nutrition was number one because
I always had to keep my weight up right. You know,
I'm eighty five pound guy. If I'm not lifting weights
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and I'm not so if I wanted to be one
ninety five, you know, one ninety two one night. Whatever
it was. I had to really take a daily approach
to it. But those shakes and all that stuff, I'm
still I've never stopped, man, I'm still doing the same thing.
It makes me feel great. So on the nutrition side,
it was always that way. I was always looking for
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legal ways to be able to fuel my body, keep
my weight. Where was that? And just you know, the
overall house. So I don't know if you remember Pete,
but I you know, I always had a chiropractor. You
know my guys still use them.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Oh yeah, yeah, so you were You were ahead of
your time with all that, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Yeah. I had JJ Hevlin. He's still here in San Diego.
I had him. He would fly out for playoff games
or just guys. And I have my acupuncturists. Yeah, my acupunctress,
Matt Callison, one of the best in the world. So
I remember I flew him out to a couple playoff games.
He did acupuncture on twenty five guys before the game.
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Everybody's so great. We went out and killed him. So
those are the kind of things that I was always
just seeking to feel as good as I can, to
play as best as I can.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Hey, Rob, we're looking at the game nowadays. What are
your what are your thoughts on it? Because it has
definitely changed. The defensive back position is definitely changed. As
far as the physicality, it's so athletic.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Now.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Do you enjoy the game the way it stands right now?
Or do you kind of long for the good old days?
Speaker 4 (19:35):
I prefer the good old days. But I understand why,
and the only reason why. I say, it's just a better,
better brand of football, right yeah. And I'm and I'm
saying that matter of factly because you know, inadvertent head
to head touches that I see every week. It's kind
of hard to call penalties on things when guys are
just going hard like that. But the main the quality
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of the game to me is I feel I'm watching college.
I mean, I hate to say it, but there is
no RPO in our game right there, that that word
isn't even out there, man, Like, the game has changed
so much it is college now to me when I'm
watching it. The offenses feel like college because I see
the quarterbacks. I mean, come on, Lamar's got eight hundred
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yards this year. There's absolutely no way that get happens
in our game. Right, And so what I'm saying is
I like it. I like the versatilities of the offense
and how they're creating space, and the talent and skill
level of these receivers and running backs are ridiculous now.
But the game has changed to where I do like
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a little bit more of a standard. I like the
ability of the quarterback position, but the RPO to me
is watered it down for me.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Hey, Robert, back in November, you you attended a Vikings
watch party in Birmingham, England. What was that like? Did
you consider you know, kind of what were your favorite
moments about it? It's like that, but you kind of
a new ambassador because it's this catching on or the
Vikings obviously have played their a number of times.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Yeah, look, I loved I loved be an ambassador. And
the UK fans are just as rabid as you can
imagine in Minneapolis, so they have a UK Vikings group.
It's kind of aching of the VWO a little bit.
I don't think they're as hardcore, but there are significant
Vikings Purple fans there man. So when I went there,
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I had a It was a showing that was set
up and great turnout. The fans knew all the chance,
they knew the hate, you know, Green Bay chances. It
was just incredible. Yeah, I was. I was surprised. All
the cheese jokes and whatnot that you know, come with
true Vikings fans.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Robert, We've got to kind of wrappings up here. We
really appreciate your time is great catching up with you.
Take care of you and your family. Congratulations on the marriage,
and then thanks for coming on the show and sharing
your skull stories with a lout and the fans. Take
care of my friend.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Definitely thanks for having me. Guys.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Well, thanks again to Robert Griffith for joining the show today.
It's it's always fun catching up with him when we
get the chance. He had with such a big impact
on the Vikings, especially during the nineteen ninety eight season. Well, Pete,
I don't know where to start. We know that the
final score was one sided, thirty one to nine at
Ford Field in the regular season finale. The Vikings had
about ten opportunities. I think the cash in and the
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red zone. It was like that invisible fence that you
have when you have a dog that you couldn't cross
the goal line. And yeah, a lot of fingers to
point at different directions, but you know, it was a
close game until the Lions offenses took over in the
fourth quarter but missed opportunities. Yeah, Sam Darnold was off.
There's just a lot to try to assume.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
There's a lot to digest, and you definitely do not
want to have to swallow a pill this size the
week before you go into a playoff game, right, and
there was there's just so much at stake, and I
mean just thinking about it before kickoff, and this is
this is me is a radio guy. It's not necessarily
what the players are thinking, but just how much was
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at stake. You're talking about home field throughout the playoffs
versus having to go on the road. Yeah, it was
with so much on the line, it was. It was
yet a little disappointing. And the thing about the offense
and how it looked, there's there's more than just a
quarterback being off. There's no question that there were the
throws weren't there, the timing wasn't there. But you know,
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mistakes up front. You know, even when we knew we
were going to get man to man coverage, we weren't
able to capitalize on it. We gave up a lot
of pressure, even at times when uh, you know, we
would they'd rush for We had five linemen and we
had a tight end, Chip and a running back all
in the mix and still giving up pressure. So very,
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very frustrating because we all, I think we all know
by this point who the Lions are, what they're about.
They're very aggressive.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
They blitz.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
It doesn't matter who they put out there, whether it's
Kendo Wilder or or or anybody else. That's their m O.
And then to see the effort the defense make, because
I think the defense for three quarters of that game
played very very well. You're plus two in the take cave,
almost plus three Van Ginkle comes down with that interception.
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So defensively, I thought they did a you know, you know,
a really really good job for for a lot of
that football game. So it's frustrating to kind of waste
that effort, you know, offensively, And but that's you got them,
you know, that's what that's what the NFL is all about.
You think this is going to make those changes and
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fix them.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Kevin O'Connell's toughest job is to kind of get these
guys refocused understanding the playoffs are just beginning right now,
whether you play at home or away. You're playing in
the Los Angeles against the Rams team you lost to
in a primetime game four days after they lost the
Lions earlier this season. They're aware of what they're about.
With Matthew Stafford at quarterback and Kua wide receiver. Do
you know what they're about?
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Yeah, And here's the if you got the right if
you have the right men in the room, showing up
like that on primetime in the biggest, let's face the
biggest regular season game since nineteen ninety three, right when
the Giants and the Dallas Cowboys played, they yeah, there
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they should be chopping at the bit to get this
thing fixed and to figure this thing out before you
head out and play again on national TV on the
road Monday night where it could happen again. Right, So
the motivate I mean, there's there shouldn't have to be
motivational speeches right now. There shouldn't have to be, you know,
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awareness of the situation. Maybe some talk about what playoff
football is all about, because it is a whole other
level to regular season. The game plan gets bigger's there's
so much more to the game when you when you.
You know, it's like that jump you take from the
preseason of the regular season, there's another jump once you
get into the postseason because everything, everything's riding on it.
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And so I don't think again, it's necessary that these
guys should all be wanting to do what needs to
be done to fix this thing and to get her straight,
and then to get out and get that bad taste
out of your mouth, get back on the field, and
what you know, nothing would change or redirect the scorn
of the national media, of the fans or whatever when
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you show up like that. Then going out and just
you know, beating a beating a Los Angeles Rams team soundly,
I think that would answer a lot of questions. And
I mean, there is a possibility if Green Bay goes
ahead and beats Philly, you might have a game at home.
So there's a lot of things that either playing in
Tampa Bay or there's a lot of things that can
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happen here that that would bode well for the Vikings.
And so they get to just go out and take
care of business and we'll see if they can do
it well.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome to School Stories, presented by three M, official science
partner of the Minnesota Vikings. Tonight we're joined by Viking
legend Robert Griffith.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Thanks again for tuning into another episode of School Stories.
Tonight's guest had a thirteen year NFL career, including an
eight year run with your Minnesota Vikings. Please enjoy tonight's
conversation with legendary safety Robert Griffith.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Hey, Robert, welcome to the show. It's great to catch
up with you. Always is. Once in a while I
run into you one of the Vikings Legends events. You
have the fans a quick update and what you're doing,
how you doing, where are you living? And hou's life.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
That's good Man got married last year to a beautiful lady.
I'm in southern California, still working up getting my licensing
business off the ground, and just really enjoying the last
bit of my family with all the new additions. My
mom and dad are getting a little older, so just
trying to really spend a lot of quality time with
everybody in And also I went back to school. I
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don't know had a bucket list. I went back and
got my MBA. I finished that in twenty twenty three
from Fordham. I went to the Bronx to do that.
So doing a little work with them and just kind
of feeding all the things that feed me, like my
foundation and education and you know, just trying to live
every day the right way.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
So Griff, tell us a little bit more about the
foundation and what is it, where can we find it,
and you know, to get anybody out there listening that
wants to help out.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Yeah. So my foundation I started when I was a
player nineteen ninety seven Frickly for the mission to give
out high school scholarships, I mean college scholarships to high
school seniors. And thus far we put thirty six kids
through school on our own efforts, you know, fundraising, golf tournament,
you name it right. Yeah, it's been a labor of love.
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I had to put it down after two thousand and eight.
All my sponsors dried up and I actually had a
bunch of kids in school that had to take care
of and it's been a true labor of love that
everything that I do as far as nonprofit, I asked
that people donate to that right. So all my charity work,
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I would say, is always for that benefit to put
kids through school. Because, as you guys know, I walked
on in San Diego State. There was not a prayer
in the world that was going to tell me I
would be able to pay for school and be able
to go to practice. And so my third semester, when
I earned that scholarship with a broken arm, you know,
out of nowhere, I felt the compelling need that if
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ever I had a chance, I would give another young
adult the opportunity to feel the way I did when
I got that scholarship. And so that's my mission is,
you know, it's a lifelong mission. You know. My other
goal is to the reason why I started my licensing
company is to not hustle on the nonprofit side and
just to direct a certain portion of my funds to
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my scholarship program. So that's really what my life's worked about.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Interesting, well, you mentioned you ended up at San Diego State.
You were born in Maryland, but you played your high
school ball in California. What were the family travels like?
How did you end up in California with the family.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Yeah, so my dad was a twenty one year Navy
and he was stationed in DC, and my sister and
I were born there, and he retired in nineteen seventy six,
and so we moved out to California because he had
some really really good friends and a couple of job offers,
and so we went all the way across the country
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after my dad got out of the service. And so
that's why I was born in San Diego and that's
why I was raised there. He ended up coming to
San Diego and taking another governmental job, and so that's
why the change my dad was in the military.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Tell us about your'd say, high school football, get us
through that, and then really how you ended up at
San Diego State, because how you walked into that, you know,
into that campus, and how you left as a football
player definitely definitely changed.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
You know. I like to think a lot of people, man,
when I think about just the transformation from went to
high school at Mount McGill in Spring Valley. Shout out
to the Matadors. They actually won the championship this year,
so I want to give them some love. So when
I left there, you know, I graduated high school Pete.
I was five seven, one hundred and fifty three pounds.
I was an All conference cornerback. I had eleven interceptions
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that year my senior year, and I got nothing but
d two scholarship offers Itsaca University, Kyle Lutheran, Sonoma State,
you name it right. And at the time, it was
a big push for all of the San Diego's best
players to stay at home. So Patrick Rowe, wide receiver
was one of the first guys that started it off
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when he stayed the year before I came out. Everybody
in San Diego decided to play for the home town team.
So a lot of guys that I played against in
high school and done very well against, got scholarship and
so you can see I was burning in my seat,
mad that I had played well against a lot of
guys and didn't get an offer. Also, so the stubbornness
in me decided to walk on. They had my degree
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of choice, which was an engineering degree guys don't have,
and great engineering school, so I decided to walk on.
And that's when I was just out to prove myself,
and I think that was a chip on my shoulder
that really kind of carried me through my NFL career.
And so when I got to Santago State, I walked
on my first year and I was crazy. I grew
three inches and twenty two pounds in like eighteen months.
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And then freshman year I broke my arm and that
so I wasn't on scholarship, right, So, if I can
back up, I was waking up. So my freshman year,
I was waking up at four point thirty. I was
working at Macon Distributing, which was a liquor distributor. So
I was a guy just carrying beer in the store,
restaurant and yeah, supermarkets and stuff. Thirty to call it
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eight thirty. I did that. Then I went to class,
then I went to practice, and then repeat, repeat, repeat,
So first semester, second semester, third semester, and I broke
my arm my third semester.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
In football, or did you break a carrying beer?
Speaker 4 (06:15):
And football? I was about to make the team. I
was backing up the starter and we were thirteen fourteen
days from our first game, and I'm running down on
kickoff because we had live special teams back then, and
I go down make a tackle and I throw the
guy to the ground and I break my form, both
phones and my form, and no scholarship. You know, obviously
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no money. Couldn't work the job because I couldn't use
my arm. So I was out fall semester, rolls around
and my mom she, I don't know how she made
it happen. I kind of find out. She told some
jewelry and some other stuff. But my mom paid for school.
And I went out there that spring camp with a brace,
you know, like a little calf on arm, and I
went out and earned a scholarship. I was angry, really
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on my last little bit of had an opportunity. He
had to give me that scholarship. You guys, it was
that much work that I was putting in. And so
that next fall I ended up playing special teams, backing
up the starter and earning my way into the starting position.
So became a team captain in that year, the next
year and my senior year. But you got to remember,
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I played this monster back right, so it was really
a utility back right. So I developed all these skills
covering tight ends, you know, hitting bigger men, et cetera.
So when it was time to go to the NFL,
I was a true tweener with a small body, right,
and they knew I couldn't play linebacker, and they never
really saw that I can play corner or have the
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speed to play corner, and so so you know how
it works. When you can't be labeled, the NFL can
forget about you. And so that's that's really what happened
to me. And so I didn't have an agent at
the time when I came out. I ended up hiring
Marshall Fox agent Rocky Austino, and he called it a
month and a half, two months before the draft, I'm
working out getting ready. He says, I got an end
(08:04):
for you with the Giant, worst case scenario going to
go free agent there, and something in me told me
to call the Giant. Probably about a month before the
draft that year in nineteen ninety three, I called him up.
I said, hey, you guys got a Robert Griffs on
your board anywhere? And I remember him saying, you know, sorry, son,
we don't well, we think you're a great player, you know,
good luck, et cetera. And so I knew that what
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was being told to me was live, et cetera. So
I ended up not having so fired, Rocky ended up
not having an agent, and I ended up calling my
AAU basketball coach, Bill McCullough. He's the HR director at Meta,
I believe now, and he called a couple of his
agent friends and made a few connections and got me
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up to Canada. So, now you got to remember nineteen
ninety three had the five American Canadian football teams at
the time. We had one in Sacramento, one in Vegas,
one in Baltimore, I think, one in New Orleans they're
somewhere in the South, and one in Florida. And so
he had an inn in Sacramento. Tom Bass was the
GM or the coordinator there, and he had seen me
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play in college and so they brought me up there
for LOUXI.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah, let me ask you griff again. We're talking to
Robert Griffith, longtime safety at the Vikings. You mentioned the
chip on your shoulder. You weren't drafted, So did how
did you end up in the CFL before you and
before eventually signing with the Vikings.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Yeah, so said Bill McCullough. He he had an opportunity
to get me to the Sacramento Canadian football team at
the time, and so I went up there and they
wanted to see if I can play, you know, learn
the rules and so club people on the field, you know,
down downhill motion, et cetera. So I'm practicing with them
for a few weeks, a couple of weeks and I'm
about to go into my first game and I remembered
(09:46):
the coach calling me up before I go I'm going
into into the game. He says, hey, Griff, we have
been trying to get a hold of you. We actually
traded you this last night to Saskatchewan and uh, you
know league rules, you know you can't play for us,
but you you know, you're their rights, et cetera, et cetera.
And so I didn't have an agent, remember, so I
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called Bill mccullor. I'm like, man, what's you know, what's
going on? Man? And Gatchewan was it was cold out there.
It was like it was October, was like thirteen fourteen degrees.
I remember, they were just an ok team at the time,
and so I decided that it was more important for
me to finish my degree, my engineering degree. So I
ended up flying back home and taking the rest of
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nineteen ninety three that fall to finish my engineering degree.
So I went back to school fall ninety three, all
the way into the spring ninety three. I'm about to graduate.
But what I did do is I started running with
Olympians San Diego State. So we had a big Olympic
contention there because we have the Olympic training center there.
And so I connected with Ron Sheffield, who was currently
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is was currently the Olympic sprinting coach at the time,
and I started working out of Olympians at my speed together,
working out in the gym, et cetera, et cetera. And
I did that all the way from October to April,
and I get a call from Gary's owner. My name
was on the grease board, my number was on the
grease board in the weight room at San Diego State,
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and Gary Zowoner calls me up and say, hey, Griff,
Gary z owner man remember me? And I said remember
you well. Gary had he was at the University of Nevada,
excuse me, University of New Mexico. And he was the
only offer that I got from a D one school
that they ended up not giving me. So I was
the only trip that I took to a d one school.
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I went to New Mexico and he showed me around.
He wanted to sign me, and then they didn't stick around.
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school Stories presented by three M. Let's get back into
our conversation with Vikings legend Robert Griffith. Hey, I want
to ask you about your relationship with with Dennis Green,
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who is your head coach here in Minnesota and in Arizona.
What do you remember most about playing for Dennis and
why did you enjoy playing for him so much?
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Dennis, Denny Green and I were I guess you can
call it kindred spirits, homemates or whatever. We just we
just vibed on the same frequency. And uh, I didn't
really realize that until after I started stopped playing and start,
you know, worked with him with the UFL and whatnot.
But he knew that he just measured the you know,
the man, right, he measured my heart and you know
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I had the skills to do it. But my relationship
with Denny was a lot deeper than I believe that
a lot of people can recognize. So I consider him
one of my best friends. Before he passed away, I
worked with him in the USL. I was essentially his
facto assistant GM. I mean I did everything for the
us I was a GM, I was a personnel director
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and the secondary coach, right my coached safety for him
for a couple of years, and you know, we spent hours, months,
days on the phone. I don't think anybody knows Denny
better than I do, other than his wife. And I
cherished those moments. But so that's my relationship with Dennian.
So you know it kind of carried. It carried all
the way into Arizona, right. You know. So when we
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both left Minnesota in two thousand and one, after that season,
I went to Cleveland for three years, and you know
my contract was up. Jenny just Denny called me up
and said, hey man, you can still play man like
some play for me. And it was an immediate yet
and it was immediate yet.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
So Griff I was gonna say, I was out there
in two thousand and six as a coach during training camp,
and oh, that's right, I think I I I think
what I because wal she was out there with me
and and uh we had a couple other guys too.
But I just remember Denny. He was just different. I
think the the death of Corey Stringer affected him in
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a way.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
You know.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
I I obviously didn't see him that whole, that whole
period of time because my career ended in two thousand,
but that had that that really did affect him, did
it not.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
He was never the same. And you know I went
to Orlando Thomas's, you know, Denny and I together, and
that was that was another another pivotal moment. I would say,
that just just makes you who you are. Man. You know, life,
life's really precious, and you know we're all running out
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here to do our thing, but you know, we gotta
we got to remember the people that were, you know,
doing it with and really honor and cherish them, you know,
while we're sharing our time together. That's really what it
comes down to.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
And from a football standpoint, Robert, during your time here,
you had the practice, You got the practice against some
of the greatest receivers in the game, obviously Randy Moss
and Chris Carter. How did you approach those daily battles
and how did it make you a better player facing
those guys in practice every day.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
I'll tell you this, Man, Without Chris Carter, I don't
I'm not the player that I am, period, hands down,
Lockstock Barrel. I had to cover Chris and the slot
at practice, and man, when I got nothing against these players.
But when I got in the slot against Donny Morden
or any of these other guys, I just did it. Man,
I just I had the confidence and I just did it,
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you know. And when I say that, I won't say
it was easy. But I wasn't worried about being in
the slot with none of them guys. When I went
out to play nickel my first seven years or whatever
in the league, even when I was playing safey, I
was starting to safety, I'll still they bring Tyrone in
the game, I would still go down there and play
nickel because I had the confidence dealing with Chris every day.
Now with Randy, obviously, I didn't have to deal with
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him as much because he was outside of the time,
but we knew that the excellence that we were seeing
was it made us all Sharper you know iron Sharper's iron, right.
It was just one of those traby you know, troubot
fire at practice and when you get put in these
uncomfortable situations, they're not uncomfortable in the game.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
And I remember training camp in ninety eight because I
know Randy was not around for mini camp or anything. Well,
he was around, but he had an ankle injury. And
then it only took a couple of days down in
Mankato before I think you guys, the defensive backs at
our defensive backs realized very quickly how good he was
gonna be.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Oh man, it wasn't even close. My first look at Randy,
I was like, who is this basketball guard in here?
Six four basketball player? Who is this guy? And the
first thing I thought is, oh man, he's gonna get hurt. Man.
I was like, this guy is gonna get hurt. I
just didn't see the strength that he had in that body.
I just I just felt like he's a flyer, but
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he's gonna get hur And what you don't realize is
how strong Randy really is. He's got that wiry frank
man and it was it was just really a pleasure.
Looking back on it, I would have soaked it up
even more, but I think I got a good look
at Randy and what he was going to be that
first year.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
For sure, Robert, you were always a health conscious, even
kind of before it was in vogue. I remember even
doing interviews with you during in the locker room, you
always had some sort of special drink that you would
make and mix up. So why was that important? I
continued throughout kind of your life and made it your
kind of one of your goals to have that health
issue being number one.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
It was priority number one. It was just like the
tenements of just how I live my life right, I'm
going to be in the best shape of my life
and I'm going to take care of myself the best
way I know possible. And to do that, it was,
you know, training obviously, but nutrition was number one because
I always had to keep my weight up right. You know,
I'm eighty five pound guy. If I'm not lifting weights
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and I'm not so if I wanted to be one
ninety five, you know, one ninety two one night. Whatever
it was. I had to really take a daily approach
to it. But those shakes and all that stuff, I'm
still I've never stopped, man, I'm still doing the same thing.
It makes me feel great. So on the nutrition side,
it was always that way. I was always looking for
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legal ways to be able to fuel my body, keep
my weight. Where was that? And just you know, the
overall house. So I don't know if you remember Pete,
but I you know, I always had a chiropractor. You
know my guys still use them.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Oh yeah, yeah, so you were You were ahead of
your time with all that, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Yeah. I had JJ Hevlin. He's still here in San Diego.
I had him. He would fly out for playoff games
or just guys. And I have my acupuncturists. Yeah, my acupunctress,
Matt Callison, one of the best in the world. So
I remember I flew him out to a couple playoff games.
He did acupuncture on twenty five guys before the game.
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Everybody's so great. We went out and killed him. So
those are the kind of things that I was always
just seeking to feel as good as I can, to
play as best as I can.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Hey, Rob, we're looking at the game nowadays. What are
your what are your thoughts on it? Because it has
definitely changed. The defensive back position is definitely changed. As
far as the physicality, it's so athletic.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Now.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Do you enjoy the game the way it stands right now?
Or do you kind of long for the good old days?
Speaker 4 (19:35):
I prefer the good old days. But I understand why,
and the only reason why. I say, it's just a better,
better brand of football, right yeah. And I'm and I'm
saying that matter of factly because you know, inadvertent head
to head touches that I see every week. It's kind
of hard to call penalties on things when guys are
just going hard like that. But the main the quality
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of the game to me is I feel I'm watching college.
I mean, I hate to say it, but there is
no RPO in our game right there, that that word
isn't even out there, man, Like, the game has changed
so much it is college now to me when I'm
watching it. The offenses feel like college because I see
the quarterbacks. I mean, come on, Lamar's got eight hundred
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yards this year. There's absolutely no way that get happens
in our game. Right, And so what I'm saying is
I like it. I like the versatilities of the offense
and how they're creating space, and the talent and skill
level of these receivers and running backs are ridiculous now.
But the game has changed to where I do like
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a little bit more of a standard. I like the
ability of the quarterback position, but the RPO to me
is watered it down for me.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Hey, Robert, back in November, you you attended a Vikings
watch party in Birmingham, England. What was that like? Did
you consider you know, kind of what were your favorite
moments about it? It's like that, but you kind of
a new ambassador because it's this catching on or the
Vikings obviously have played their a number of times.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Yeah, look, I loved I loved be an ambassador. And
the UK fans are just as rabid as you can
imagine in Minneapolis, so they have a UK Vikings group.
It's kind of aching of the VWO a little bit.
I don't think they're as hardcore, but there are significant
Vikings Purple fans there man. So when I went there,
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I had a It was a showing that was set
up and great turnout. The fans knew all the chance,
they knew the hate, you know, Green Bay chances. It
was just incredible. Yeah, I was. I was surprised. All
the cheese jokes and whatnot that you know, come with
true Vikings fans.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Robert, We've got to kind of wrappings up here. We
really appreciate your time is great catching up with you.
Take care of you and your family. Congratulations on the marriage,
and then thanks for coming on the show and sharing
your skull stories with a lout and the fans. Take
care of my friend.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Definitely thanks for having me. Guys.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Well, thanks again to Robert Griffith for joining the show today.
It's it's always fun catching up with him when we
get the chance. He had with such a big impact
on the Vikings, especially during the nineteen ninety eight season. Well, Pete,
I don't know where to start. We know that the
final score was one sided, thirty one to nine at
Ford Field in the regular season finale. The Vikings had
about ten opportunities. I think the cash in and the
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red zone. It was like that invisible fence that you
have when you have a dog that you couldn't cross
the goal line. And yeah, a lot of fingers to
point at different directions, but you know, it was a
close game until the Lions offenses took over in the
fourth quarter but missed opportunities. Yeah, Sam Darnold was off.
There's just a lot to try to assume.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
There's a lot to digest, and you definitely do not
want to have to swallow a pill this size the
week before you go into a playoff game, right, and
there was there's just so much at stake, and I
mean just thinking about it before kickoff, and this is
this is me is a radio guy. It's not necessarily
what the players are thinking, but just how much was
(23:06):
at stake. You're talking about home field throughout the playoffs
versus having to go on the road. Yeah, it was
with so much on the line, it was. It was
yet a little disappointing. And the thing about the offense
and how it looked, there's there's more than just a
quarterback being off. There's no question that there were the
throws weren't there, the timing wasn't there. But you know,
(23:29):
mistakes up front. You know, even when we knew we
were going to get man to man coverage, we weren't
able to capitalize on it. We gave up a lot
of pressure, even at times when uh, you know, we
would they'd rush for We had five linemen and we
had a tight end, Chip and a running back all
in the mix and still giving up pressure. So very,
(23:49):
very frustrating because we all, I think we all know
by this point who the Lions are, what they're about.
They're very aggressive.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
They blitz.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
It doesn't matter who they put out there, whether it's
Kendo Wilder or or or anybody else. That's their m O.
And then to see the effort the defense make, because
I think the defense for three quarters of that game
played very very well. You're plus two in the take cave,
almost plus three Van Ginkle comes down with that interception.
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So defensively, I thought they did a you know, you know,
a really really good job for for a lot of
that football game. So it's frustrating to kind of waste
that effort, you know, offensively, And but that's you got them,
you know, that's what that's what the NFL is all about.
You think this is going to make those changes and
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fix them.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Kevin O'Connell's toughest job is to kind of get these
guys refocused understanding the playoffs are just beginning right now,
whether you play at home or away. You're playing in
the Los Angeles against the Rams team you lost to
in a primetime game four days after they lost the
Lions earlier this season. They're aware of what they're about.
With Matthew Stafford at quarterback and Kua wide receiver. Do
you know what they're about?
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Yeah, And here's the if you got the right if
you have the right men in the room, showing up
like that on primetime in the biggest, let's face the
biggest regular season game since nineteen ninety three, right when
the Giants and the Dallas Cowboys played, they yeah, there
(25:19):
they should be chopping at the bit to get this
thing fixed and to figure this thing out before you
head out and play again on national TV on the
road Monday night where it could happen again. Right, So
the motivate I mean, there's there shouldn't have to be
motivational speeches right now. There shouldn't have to be, you know,
(25:41):
awareness of the situation. Maybe some talk about what playoff
football is all about, because it is a whole other
level to regular season. The game plan gets bigger's there's
so much more to the game when you when you.
You know, it's like that jump you take from the
preseason of the regular season, there's another jump once you
get into the postseason because everything, everything's riding on it.
(26:04):
And so I don't think again, it's necessary that these
guys should all be wanting to do what needs to
be done to fix this thing and to get her straight,
and then to get out and get that bad taste
out of your mouth, get back on the field, and
what you know, nothing would change or redirect the scorn
of the national media, of the fans or whatever when
(26:27):
you show up like that. Then going out and just
you know, beating a beating a Los Angeles Rams team soundly,
I think that would answer a lot of questions. And
I mean, there is a possibility if Green Bay goes
ahead and beats Philly, you might have a game at home.
So there's a lot of things that either playing in
Tampa Bay or there's a lot of things that can
(26:47):
happen here that that would bode well for the Vikings.
And so they get to just go out and take
care of business and we'll see if they can do
it well.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
As we said, the playoffs are finally here. You got
to keep moving forward. This is the opportunity they've been
waiting for all season, with your Vikings heading out the
Sofi Stadium to take on the Rams on Monday Night Football.
It's a seven pm kickoff locally, and the TV coverage
will be all over on ABC and ESPN, so be
sure to check your local listings for details. You could,
(27:16):
of course, also catch Paul Allen, ben Lieber and Pete
Persage with the call right here all across the Vikings
radio network. The Vikings Football Sunday pregame show starts at
five pm on Kfan, so be sure to tune in
with host Mike Mussman and the rest of the crew
leading up to kickoff. And thank you fans for tuning
into another edition of Skull Stories presented by three M
(27:37):
the official science partner of the Minnesota Vikings. We will
continue to do school Stories throughout the Vikings playoff run.
So how about getting a win and we'll see you
all again next week
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