October 7, 2025 • 26 mins
Mike and Wes discuss the Packers returning from their bye week, including the news that WR Christian Watson is practicing (:29), additional injury updates (4:50), questions surrounding the Bengals (8:53), and the current state of the NFC North and league results through Week 5 (13:12). Editor's note: This episode was recorded before Cincinnati traded for QB Joe Flacco.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Hi, everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.
I am Mike Spofford, joined as always by the one
and only Wes Hodkowitz. We're coming to you here from
our studios at Lambellfield to talk Packers football, coming off
of the bye week, during which, of course, the Packers
to one on one record did not change west. But
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when the players returned from their break to the practice
field on Monday, there was a big change, and that
was wide receiver Christian Watson was on the practice field,
the fourth year receiver nine months in one day removed
from his ACL injury against the Chicago Bears last January,
practicing in the twenty twenty five season for the first time.
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We don't know exactly when he will be put on
the fifty three man roster, when he will be ready
to play a game. All of that is TBD, but
a big step forward.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Christian wants, yeah, man, And it's wonderful because it's like,
it really does feel like it's been the worst kept
secret at lambeau Field that we are that close to
Christian Watson being back in regular practice action. And listen,
I mean, it was really interesting listening to talking to
his locker on Monday, because he mentioned it was a
great question by Rob damofski a lot of the stuff
they did in Monday's practice, which was really just like
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more of a run through type practice. You know, Christian said,
he's been doing some of that stuff for two months now,
but it's different when you get out in that setting
with your teammates. And we've been watching him all spring,
we watched him all summer. I mean, this guy is sprinting,
this guy is hitting top speeds, and now he can
put it back towards football. But I'll be honest with you, man,
the thing I was most impressed by two hundred and
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seventy four days since he tore his ACL And I
understand he's a genetic freak. I understand he works really
hard at it. He said from the day that he
got hurt the day at the rehab start, he worked
every single day to get back. There's a reason why
Green Bay extended him. They saw that work, they saw
what he was doing to get back for this football team.
He consulted Stefan Diggs. I mean this this guy left
no stone unturned in the process, and it's brought him
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to this point. It will be extra credit if we
see him on the field in October, But realistically, the
goal was to get him back for the second half,
and it looks like the Packers are getting a prety
darn good version of Christian Watson at that.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, And I think hopefully the fans are able to
exercise some level of patience here, because at whatever point
Christian Watson is activated to play in a game, you
have to understand he's not going to go out there
and play fifty some snaps in his very first game back.
I mean, there's going to be a ramp up period here,
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you know. And I'm not going to try to predict
what snap counts there might be, how many weeks that
might be, whatever the case. But I'm totally with you
in that this has felt from the beginning, because the
injury happened in the regular season finale last year, that
it's like, Okay, if you get Christian Watson back for
the second half of the twenty twenty five season, that's
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what you're aiming for. If he's actually back on the
field before the Packers get to the halfway point, that
feels like just a bonus that could potentially just have
him all the more ready to help this team down
the stretch for what is hopefully going to be a
playoff push where this offense maybe starts to peak as they.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Say, yeah, you know this. The guy's supremely talented. We've
all watched it. He's a big playmaker. But it was
fun just seeing I mean, this is a leader. He
may not have one of the Seas on his chest
right now, but this is one of the guys at
the locker room follows and just watching the jubilation around them,
just seeing guys interacting with his media scrum Malie Keith,
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Nate Hobbs, Bo Melton when they were walking in together.
I mean, everybody had a pretty good laugh about it
because they've seen obviously the work that he's done, but
also what Christian means to that football team. This is
a guy that has carried himself. I mean there's a
reason why Michael, as we've said before, I mean he
won the Stand Up Guy Award for the Packers from
the Packers Media Corps in his second year. I mean
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that type of stuff doesn't happen. I mean, this is
the type of dude that gets out in front of it,
wins losses order. As we learned two weeks ago, TI,
he's always accountable, Yeah, and people respect that. Now. The
exciting part about it is, you saw a guy like
Matthew Golden Flash in Dallas. You're seeing Romeo Dobbs right
now at the peak of his powers. I mean, this
guy's playing his best football that he's ever played in
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Green Bay right now. Adding a receiver like Christian Watson
back into the mix, it stinks not to have Jaden
Reid here for an in definite period of time. But
when we were talking all off season, you're not going
to keep everybody healthy. If you can get a little
bit of a jolt, a little bit of a surge
with a guy like Watson in the second half, it
is it's like that. It's almost like that trading deadline
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type of acquisition. What he could add to this football
team during a stretch run.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Absolutely well. The rest of the injury update from the
return to practice two starting offensive linemen Zach Tom Aaron Banks,
who have both missed really I would say the bulk
of the last three games for the Packers. Both of
those guys were back on the practice field. Now, the
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big test for them will be Wednesday, because with the
Packers coming off the bye week Wednesday, this week will
be the full pads practice, and when we get the
injury report after Wednesday's practice, which will be the first
official injury report of the week, that will be a
telltale sign in terms of where Zach Tom and Aaron
Banks are. Nate Hobbs was also back on the practice field.
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He exited the Dallas game to be evaluated for a concussion.
So the fact that he was back on the practice field,
whatever the evaluation was and whatever his situation is, the
fact that he was back at practice was certainly a
good sign. Two guys who were not back at practice
defensive lineman DeVante Wyatt, rookie offensive lineman Anthony Belton Wyatt
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with a knee injury, Belton with an ankle, And we
don't really know the extent of where things are with those.
What we do know about Wyatt is that Matt Lefuur
said he's weak to week and the fact that and
obviously things could always change, but the fact that the
Packers have not put Wyatt on IR for that minimum
four games down, I take that as a good sign
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that this really very well could be just a week
to week thing and we may see him, you know,
back out there soon enough. So good to see. On balance,
the Packers are getting healthier. Obviously, there's a long stretch here,
thirteen regular season games and then hopefully beyond without any
kind of a break other than kind of the mini
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buy that will happen after the Thanksgiving game in Detroit.
When you get a weekend off after playing on a
short week, this is going to be a long haul
and the Packers want to You obviously want to be
as healthy as you can be at any time. But
if this bye week helped to get some guys healthy,
then as early as it was, then hopefully it was
worth it well.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
And you hope too that there were some guys that
were able to take a little bit of a breather
because of that buye. When you think about them being
pretty cautious with Aaron Banks in particular, you know, dealing
with the groin injury and having one earlier that was
somewhat different. Packers want to get these guys out there,
and not just for a game, but for the season. Yeah,
and while you know, Zach Tom was talking to I
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think Jason Wilde in the locker room on Monday and mention,
I mean, there's probably gonna be some pain tolerance involved
with this. This isn't something that he's necessarily just going
to quote unquote heel up from, but it's learning how
to manage it and how to use his body to
get through this because the Packers need him man. And again,
one of the questions that came up an insider inbox was,
you know, if you looked at it on balance, who's
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more important for this Packers team right now? Is that
Zach tom Ors a Devonte White. And again, that's a
typical question because you're talking about two of the top ten,
top twelve guys on this entire roster. Sure, but when
you look at where Zach went down with the oblique
against Washington, there's a turning point there for the offense,
and you give credit to guys for stepping up. But
the problem was, it wasn't just one guy that moved
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into that spot. It was Belton got hurt, Darien Kinnard
was in and out. I mean, there's just so many
dominoes that happened there. In addition to the fact that
Zach's one of the very best at what he does
at that position. So more than anything, people ask, what
do you want to see? Cleaned up penalties, health, all this.
I just want to see the preferred starting five. Yeah,
for the offensive line, or at least what it's going
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to be throughout the rest of the season. Once you
get that in place, I feel like that shores up
the run game, It shores up some of the penalties
on the offensive line. Hopefully it allows the Packers to
really be as explosive as we thought they could be.
They showed signs of it. They don't tie that game
in Dallas if not for the offense performing the way
that it did. Right, But can you do it now
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against the team and we'll preview it on Thursday, But
a team against like the Cincinnati Bengals, who are really
up against it right now, that's where Green Bay needs
to start asserting itself.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Yeah, this is a struggling Cincinnati Bengals team. As you said,
we'll dive into more of the details about the Bengals
on our next show later this week. But the big
question right now hover in Cincinnati is Zach Taylor, the
head coach, going to make a change at quarterback. Jake
Browning has been the replacement for the injured Joe Burrow,
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But since taking over for Joe Burrow, Jake Browning has
thrown eight interceptions, including three of them against the Detroit
Lions this past Sunday, when the Bengals, playing at home,
fell into a huge hole. They got some points late
in the game in the fourth quarter, but you know,
at some point you wonder you had the Lions figured
they had this game wrapped up, right, because they had
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such a big lead. So what does Zach Taylor decide
to do. I think the rock in a hard place
that he's in is that you look at his other options,
Cincinnati's other options at quarterback. You have Brett Rippin on
the active roster, you have Mike White and the former
Packers Sean Clifford on the practice squad. The problem for
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Zach Taylor is all three of those other options did
not arrive in Cincinnati until the end of training camp
or later. So if you're going to make a change
and move on from Browning and give somebody else a shot,
It's not quite the Malik Willis situation last year that
the Packers are in, but it's awfully close where somebody
kind of just got there and is just learning the
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offense and kind of getting their feed under them in
Zach Taylor's system, and then you're gonna throw them out
there against the Green Bay Packers at lambeau Field. It's
a tough spot for Zach Taylor to be and he
says he's gonna announce on Wednesday, when the Bengals begin
their practice week to get ready to come to Green Bay.
He's gonna make the quarterback announcement then. But he doesn't
have a lot of good options right now.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
No, And I think the prudent move, if I'm being
completely honest with you, would be to stick with Browning
because I think so too. But he's been there for years.
I mean, this isn't just like, Okay, well they signed
a guy in the off season, they went, they threw
him out there, and he's not doing Jake Browning has
been the number two to Joe Burrow in all of
these situations when Burrow has been injured. Right I look
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at that entire offense right now as being in flux.
They've had a lot of injuries on the offensive line.
Former Packer Lucas Patrick has been on injured reserve with
an injury. I mean, they signed Dalton Reisner at the
start of the season. Chase brown right now is averaging
two and a half yards per carry. You saw those
statistics through the first two or three weeks of the
season where he had negative yards rushing before contact. Yeah,
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and it wasn't just by like one, it was like
by fifty. That entire offense outside of the receiver position
has been in flux. And the other thing I would
say too, is that, with all due respect to Brett
Brett Rippon, when he came into Green Bay two years ago,
it didn't go very well.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
No, he did not look good, and that was not
the same Packers defense then that he would be facing
this time.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
I mean, it was one of the more dominant victories
in the Mattlafloor era. So Browning's the guy that you
committed yourself to, So it would be somewhat quizzical to
me if they decided to make that switch. Now we'll
see what happens. But to your other point, Mike White
and Sean Clifford both got there after the injury to Burrow,
So in that regard, it really does come down to
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is it Browning is it Rippin? And if it is
that guy, can you protect him.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah, and Rippin didn't show up until the last week
of August, right from what I understand. So all right, well,
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all right, West NFC North Detroit Lions four on one,
Green Bay Packers two to one on one, Minnesota Vikings
three and two, Chicago Bears two and two. Packers and
Bears both had their buy in Week five. But here
we are. Everybody in the division has played either four
or five games, and nobody in the division is below
five hundred. So here we here we go again, as
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they say, for those wondering who's in second place, the
Packers at two to one on one in the Minnesota
Vikings at three and two. Minnesota's winning percentage is six hundred.
The Packers winning percentage is six twenty five. So officially,
the Packers are in second place for those who care
about such things. But hey, as we've been talking about
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for the last few weeks now, the Detroit Lions aren't
going anywhere. The Packers got a big win over Detroit.
It's the Packers' only division games so far, so it
was a big one to get and the Packers got it.
But the Lions are back on top, and quite frankly,
these last four games, with the Lions chalking up four
straight victories, they've looked pretty darn good and doing so.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
And it's not just that the Lions are back on
top offensively, They're back to doing what they do best, right.
I mean, they are running the football down team's throats.
Jared Goff is throwing off of that in Amana, Saint
Brown is getting those ten yard catches to extend first downs.
They have a very vivid blueprint for how they win
football games and they're very good at doing it.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
When you look at the consistency and the teams that
have been the perennial front runners right now in the NFC,
it's Detroit and it's Philadelphia, and it's because of their consistency.
They know their identity, they played that identity and they've
had success with it. Now. All that being said, I mean,
they've had very winnable matchups now to Green Bays point,
they also played the Cleveland Browns. They also could have
beaten the Cleveland Browns, although they did not get the
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benefit of having them at lambeau Field, but they laid
the SmackDown Detroit did over the Bears. They go and
beat a Baltimore Ravens team now that obviously doesn't have
Lamar Jackson but is struggling all around. Yes, the precipitous
fall here of their defense played into that game against
the Lions Mercy and then the CINCINNTI Bengals don't. I
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couldn't honestly tell you everything that happened in the fourth
quarter or why the Bengals made that thing closer than
it was. It seemed like they had some sustained drives.
I didn't watch it.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
There was one of the touchdowns was a big, like
sixty yard touchdown pass to Jamar Chase, where somehow, even
though the Lions were up by multiple scores, they let
Chase get behind them and so they hit a big
touchdown there. They did have a couple of other sustained drives,
but the Lions I think it built like a twenty
eight to three lead or something like that.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I mean, seven twenty four does not represent what that game, No,
absolutely it was not. It was a route. So all
that being said, the point I want to raise here
about Detroit, and it goes back to what I said
after the Packers beat them, that was a pivotal win.
It was a pivotal win in the NFC North. It
was a pivotal win in this conference. Because I don't
think the Lions are going away as far as trying
to secure that number one seed again after everything that
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happened last year, and for them now, I mean, you
look at the schedule that they have coming up, Kansas
City at Kansas City, but the Chiefs are reeling. Tampa
Bay is going to be a tough one. Then they
get thereby and then they got Minnesota, Washington and Philadelphia.
I mean, the Lions took care of business, and if
they can get through this upcoming stretch on the winning
side of these next three four games, I mean, they're
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going to be a team to really be feared here
in the second half.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Well, in a non Packers weekend of football, it was
quite the interesting Week five in the NFL because you
had the Philadelphia Eagles and the Buffalo Bills both take
their first loss of the season and both lost at home.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Yeah, the Eagles the losses at home this week.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Yeah, the Eagles blowing a fourteen point fourth quarter lead
at home to the Denver Broncos. And the Buffalo Bills
losing to a division rival in the New England Patriots
in prime time. Buffalo losing a home prime time game
is not something I thought we'd be talking about here
on the show. The other thing when you look at
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Week five in the NFL, so the Panthers, the Saints,
the Broncos, as I mentioned, the Titans, and the Commanders
all erased double digit deficits to come back and post victories.
Five teams coming back from double digit deficits in one weekend.
In one Sunday of NFL football, it was uh and
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heck and you And then this whole week started with
a banged up San Francisco forty nine Ers team knocking
off a division rival in the LA Rams on Thursday
Night football.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
So just just a.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Really interesting week, but a week that it's typical of
the NFL, because there is no such thing as a
typical week in the NFL. That's how this league goes.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah, in the week to nature of it is just
beyond compare. It is so difficult to stretch wins together.
It is so difficult to impose your will and not
be one of those teams that ends up, you know,
dropping an LA Chargers loss to the Giants that seems
to have kind of gotten in the Chargers head a
little bit, in addition to some injuries that they're dealing with,
particularly in the background or the backfield. But the one
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thing I thought about is I was going through these
games and I was obviously watching the Thursday night game
between the forty nine Ers and the Rams that I
think you've got to give everybody credit on the Kyle
Shanahan Sean McVay coaching treas. When push comes to shove
and they lose quarterbacks, they find ways to win, and
that is so difficult to do. I mean, you're looking
at what's happening right now at Cincinnati and building an
offense and building game plans and allowing you know, your
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quarterback to have success. Kyle Shanahan's done that with Mac Jones. Obviously,
Kevin O'Connell has done that time and time again with
the quarterbacks and the emergency fill ins that they've had
in the Vikings, And to Matt Lefluor's credit, he did
it last year with Milik Willis right. So for the
San Francisco Fortinires and Is they've brought up to I
forget who this was in the forty nine ers organization,
but San Francisco in LA is a sneaky rivalry like
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that has been. It's not bad blood, but I mean
there's been a lot of competitiveness there and a lot
of forty nine Er wins too over the last few years.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Yeah, it's it seems like it seems like that that rivalry,
that division clash, you know, sort of elevated itself to
a rivalry when they played each other in the NFC Championship, Yes,
a rifle of years ago, and that NFC Championship was
at Sofi Stadium in LA. But every time the forty
nine Ers play there, the entire stadium is decked out
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and read all the forty nine Ers fans show up
in LA to cheer on their team against the Rams.
And we saw that again. We saw that again on
Thursday Night Football. These teams, the Rams and the Chargers,
it's like they never actually play home games, you know.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I mean in the Raiders. What's that Raiders?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, the Raiders are in that same boat now that
they're not in Oakland anymore. They're in Las Vegas and
their stadium gets in by everybody else. So here's the
other thing I want to run by you though. We
talked about. Okay, so Buffalo and Philadelphia take their first
losses there. For in one we mentioned that the Lions
are four and one. But here's the other list, Wes,
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the Colts, the Jaguars, the Buccaneers, and the forty nine ers.
They are also all four and one. There are seven
four and one teams across the league right now. I
don't think you know, you can say, I mean, who
are the surprises. I don't think anybody would have thought
at this stage that both the Colts and the Jaguars
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would be four said, and then the next one on
the list. You wouldn't think the Buccaneers would be there.
But Baker Mayfield just keeps pulling off this late game
magic stuff, and for as rough a game as his
as the Buccaneers defense had against the Seattle Seahawks in Seattle,
the defense gets the big interception in the last minute
and sets up the game winning field goal and Tampa
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Bay gets on that long flight home from Seattle with
another victory.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Yeah, there was a comparison when Baker came out so
many years ago now between him and Brett Favre, and
I just think it's held up so well. He is
that type of quarterback, and obviously Cleveland didn't really have
the patience with him, but he's blossomed into something special
and by all accounts, man, he's going to be the
Buccaneers quarterback here for the foreseeable future. No, is it
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just some stop gap. I mean, this is their guy,
and it's incredible what he's done to, you know, mount
that resurgence. But at the same time, what's happening with
Indianapolis is why I love professional football, because, including myself here,
everybody left Daniel Jones for dead. Everybody kind of scoffed
at the signing of Daniel Jones, being like, well, what
are you doing bringing him in to compete with Anthony Richardson.
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If you're signing him, you're just waving the white flag already.
I mean, you're just conceding this thing to Richardson. And
then the guy put together a competitive training camp and
ultimately gets the nod, and here he is, you know,
leading this Colts offense. That's actually one of the more
entertaining football teams in the league right now.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
And if not, and if not for ad and I
Mitchell losing control of the ball while crossing what would
have been crossing the goal line for a touchdown against
the Rams two weeks ago, we'd be talking about the
Indianapolis Colts as the only five and zero team in
the NFL, right now, that that one play is the
difference now. Also, they got a last second victory over
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the Broncos when the whole leverage thing was called on
the field goal and their kicker got another crack and
he made it. You know, So there's that too, but
that you know, that's this league. But yeah, you know,
we watched the Packers and the Colts in a joint
practice in Indianapolis, and then we watched them play a
preseason game and both teams kind of going into that
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preseason game with different goals and everything. But I did
not leave Indianapolis in the middle of August and come
back to Green Bay West thinking that that Indianapolis Colts
team was going to be four and one here in
early October.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
No, and they've been super impressive. And when you asked
me the biggest surprise, it is the fact that the
AFC South has two four and one teams and neither
of them are Houston. Yeah it, you know, and give
credit to Liam Cohen and what they've built in Jacksonville.
And no doubt, you know, not a bad defense that's
being coordinated down there now by a certain former Packers linebackers.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Coach coach Campanelli.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
But this is this is what the National Football Leagu's
all about. Now, you got to sustain it. They're shooting
stars every season that then flicker and fall. Yeah, so
it is going to be a battle of what happens.
But if you if you look at what Kansas City's
going through right now after the loss to Jacksonville, if you.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Look at a fourteen point lead on Monday Night football.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
For real, and then you look at you know, Baltimore
now is going through it. Lamar Jackson dealing with the
hamstring injury, which is just awful for his game and
the way he wants to play for sure in the mound.
I mean, we're talking about an historic amount of yardage
right now that the Ravens are relinquishing defensively, which we
are not accustomed to over Baltimore over the last twenty
five yearsicularly during the John Harbough era. They would all
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be dying to be in the position right now that
the Colts are in, that the Jaguars are in. And
then you look at a team like the New York
Jets who are zero to five and have not forced
a turnover yet this season. It is football is a difficult,
difficult game. So yeah, when you win, when you get
off to a three plus three in the win column
through the first month of the season, that's an accomplishment.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yeah, And just I think the best example right now
in the NFL of how quickly things can turn, and
we talked about it last week and what we're talking
about again this week is the Los Angeles Chargers. They
start out the season three and zero. They look like
they have everything going for him. They go on the road,
fly across country to Jersey to play a winless New
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York Giants team that is starting a rookie quarterback for
the first time, and they drop that one. Then they're
looking like they're on the verge of bouncing back, jumping
out to a ten tohing lead against Washington. They're driving
for a touchdown that's going to put them up seventeen
to nothing. The receiver makes the catch, fumbles the ball,
Washington recovers, and the Chargers don't score the rest of
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the game and lose twenty seven to ten. After leading
ten to nothing and looking like they were going to
extend that lead. That is how quickly things can turn. Now,
suddenly the Chargers who two weeks ago were three and
Oero are now three and two, and everybody's asking where
is their season headed? Right, So it's a long haul.
As we say, it's a marathon, it's not a sprint.
There are a ton of games left, All sorts of
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things can happen. All that matters for the Packers right now,
they got their by they got their rest, hopefully they're
getting healthy. And now you've got a struggling team coming
into Lambeufield and we'll talk more about them on our neck.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Yeah, and AFC games uncommon opponents. Non conference games are
sort of the fast food of this thing, like they're
not necessarily that great for you, but you need them occasionally.
And last year the Packers making the playoffs was built
a lot on their success against the FCCL.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeap sweeping at all four all four victories.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
So while you want to get you want to win
in the North. You want to win these NFC games
when you face the Dallas Cowboys, especially those cross conference
games or across division games. Excuse me, the Packers have
to get back because now you look at Cleveland and
the struggles that they had against everybody else within the division.
That stuff all comes out in the wash at the
end of the season. So for the Packers, the only
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thing they can focus on right now is Cincinnati. We'll
preview it on Thursday, but the Bengals are hurting unit
and as I wrote an insider Inbox, now is the
time for the Packers to pounce.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Absolutely, and presumably later in the week we will have
an answer on Cincinnati's quarterback as we dive into that
team a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
But we'll just make it up.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
We'll call it a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscript.
You'd be sure to follow all of our coverage of
the team on Packers dot com. For West, I'm Mike.
Thank you for tuning in everybody. We will see you
next time.
Hi, everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.
I am Mike Spofford, joined as always by the one
and only Wes Hodkowitz. We're coming to you here from
our studios at Lambellfield to talk Packers football, coming off
of the bye week, during which, of course, the Packers
to one on one record did not change west. But
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when the players returned from their break to the practice
field on Monday, there was a big change, and that
was wide receiver Christian Watson was on the practice field,
the fourth year receiver nine months in one day removed
from his ACL injury against the Chicago Bears last January,
practicing in the twenty twenty five season for the first time.
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We don't know exactly when he will be put on
the fifty three man roster, when he will be ready
to play a game. All of that is TBD, but
a big step forward.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Christian wants, yeah, man, And it's wonderful because it's like,
it really does feel like it's been the worst kept
secret at lambeau Field that we are that close to
Christian Watson being back in regular practice action. And listen,
I mean, it was really interesting listening to talking to
his locker on Monday, because he mentioned it was a
great question by Rob damofski a lot of the stuff
they did in Monday's practice, which was really just like
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more of a run through type practice. You know, Christian said,
he's been doing some of that stuff for two months now,
but it's different when you get out in that setting
with your teammates. And we've been watching him all spring,
we watched him all summer. I mean, this guy is sprinting,
this guy is hitting top speeds, and now he can
put it back towards football. But I'll be honest with you, man,
the thing I was most impressed by two hundred and
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seventy four days since he tore his ACL And I
understand he's a genetic freak. I understand he works really
hard at it. He said from the day that he
got hurt the day at the rehab start, he worked
every single day to get back. There's a reason why
Green Bay extended him. They saw that work, they saw
what he was doing to get back for this football team.
He consulted Stefan Diggs. I mean this this guy left
no stone unturned in the process, and it's brought him
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to this point. It will be extra credit if we
see him on the field in October, But realistically, the
goal was to get him back for the second half,
and it looks like the Packers are getting a prety
darn good version of Christian Watson at that.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, And I think hopefully the fans are able to
exercise some level of patience here, because at whatever point
Christian Watson is activated to play in a game, you
have to understand he's not going to go out there
and play fifty some snaps in his very first game back.
I mean, there's going to be a ramp up period here,
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you know. And I'm not going to try to predict
what snap counts there might be, how many weeks that
might be, whatever the case. But I'm totally with you
in that this has felt from the beginning, because the
injury happened in the regular season finale last year, that
it's like, Okay, if you get Christian Watson back for
the second half of the twenty twenty five season, that's
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what you're aiming for. If he's actually back on the
field before the Packers get to the halfway point, that
feels like just a bonus that could potentially just have
him all the more ready to help this team down
the stretch for what is hopefully going to be a
playoff push where this offense maybe starts to peak as they.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Say, yeah, you know this. The guy's supremely talented. We've
all watched it. He's a big playmaker. But it was
fun just seeing I mean, this is a leader. He
may not have one of the Seas on his chest
right now, but this is one of the guys at
the locker room follows and just watching the jubilation around them,
just seeing guys interacting with his media scrum Malie Keith,
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Nate Hobbs, Bo Melton when they were walking in together.
I mean, everybody had a pretty good laugh about it
because they've seen obviously the work that he's done, but
also what Christian means to that football team. This is
a guy that has carried himself. I mean there's a
reason why Michael, as we've said before, I mean he
won the Stand Up Guy Award for the Packers from
the Packers Media Corps in his second year. I mean
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that type of stuff doesn't happen. I mean, this is
the type of dude that gets out in front of it,
wins losses order. As we learned two weeks ago, TI,
he's always accountable, Yeah, and people respect that. Now. The
exciting part about it is, you saw a guy like
Matthew Golden Flash in Dallas. You're seeing Romeo Dobbs right
now at the peak of his powers. I mean, this
guy's playing his best football that he's ever played in
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Green Bay right now. Adding a receiver like Christian Watson
back into the mix, it stinks not to have Jaden
Reid here for an in definite period of time. But
when we were talking all off season, you're not going
to keep everybody healthy. If you can get a little
bit of a jolt, a little bit of a surge
with a guy like Watson in the second half, it
is it's like that. It's almost like that trading deadline
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type of acquisition. What he could add to this football
team during a stretch run.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Absolutely well. The rest of the injury update from the
return to practice two starting offensive linemen Zach Tom Aaron Banks,
who have both missed really I would say the bulk
of the last three games for the Packers. Both of
those guys were back on the practice field. Now, the
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big test for them will be Wednesday, because with the
Packers coming off the bye week Wednesday, this week will
be the full pads practice, and when we get the
injury report after Wednesday's practice, which will be the first
official injury report of the week, that will be a
telltale sign in terms of where Zach Tom and Aaron
Banks are. Nate Hobbs was also back on the practice field.
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He exited the Dallas game to be evaluated for a concussion.
So the fact that he was back on the practice field,
whatever the evaluation was and whatever his situation is, the
fact that he was back at practice was certainly a
good sign. Two guys who were not back at practice
defensive lineman DeVante Wyatt, rookie offensive lineman Anthony Belton Wyatt
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with a knee injury, Belton with an ankle, And we
don't really know the extent of where things are with those.
What we do know about Wyatt is that Matt Lefuur
said he's weak to week and the fact that and
obviously things could always change, but the fact that the
Packers have not put Wyatt on IR for that minimum
four games down, I take that as a good sign
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that this really very well could be just a week
to week thing and we may see him, you know,
back out there soon enough. So good to see. On balance,
the Packers are getting healthier. Obviously, there's a long stretch here,
thirteen regular season games and then hopefully beyond without any
kind of a break other than kind of the mini
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buy that will happen after the Thanksgiving game in Detroit.
When you get a weekend off after playing on a
short week, this is going to be a long haul
and the Packers want to You obviously want to be
as healthy as you can be at any time. But
if this bye week helped to get some guys healthy,
then as early as it was, then hopefully it was
worth it well.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
And you hope too that there were some guys that
were able to take a little bit of a breather
because of that buye. When you think about them being
pretty cautious with Aaron Banks in particular, you know, dealing
with the groin injury and having one earlier that was
somewhat different. Packers want to get these guys out there,
and not just for a game, but for the season. Yeah,
and while you know, Zach Tom was talking to I
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think Jason Wilde in the locker room on Monday and mention,
I mean, there's probably gonna be some pain tolerance involved
with this. This isn't something that he's necessarily just going
to quote unquote heel up from, but it's learning how
to manage it and how to use his body to
get through this because the Packers need him man. And again,
one of the questions that came up an insider inbox was,
you know, if you looked at it on balance, who's
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more important for this Packers team right now? Is that
Zach tom Ors a Devonte White. And again, that's a
typical question because you're talking about two of the top ten,
top twelve guys on this entire roster. Sure, but when
you look at where Zach went down with the oblique
against Washington, there's a turning point there for the offense,
and you give credit to guys for stepping up. But
the problem was, it wasn't just one guy that moved
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into that spot. It was Belton got hurt, Darien Kinnard
was in and out. I mean, there's just so many
dominoes that happened there. In addition to the fact that
Zach's one of the very best at what he does
at that position. So more than anything, people ask, what
do you want to see? Cleaned up penalties, health, all this.
I just want to see the preferred starting five. Yeah,
for the offensive line, or at least what it's going
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to be throughout the rest of the season. Once you
get that in place, I feel like that shores up
the run game, It shores up some of the penalties
on the offensive line. Hopefully it allows the Packers to
really be as explosive as we thought they could be.
They showed signs of it. They don't tie that game
in Dallas if not for the offense performing the way
that it did. Right, But can you do it now
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against the team and we'll preview it on Thursday, But
a team against like the Cincinnati Bengals, who are really
up against it right now, that's where Green Bay needs
to start asserting itself.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Yeah, this is a struggling Cincinnati Bengals team. As you said,
we'll dive into more of the details about the Bengals
on our next show later this week. But the big
question right now hover in Cincinnati is Zach Taylor, the
head coach, going to make a change at quarterback. Jake
Browning has been the replacement for the injured Joe Burrow,
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But since taking over for Joe Burrow, Jake Browning has
thrown eight interceptions, including three of them against the Detroit
Lions this past Sunday, when the Bengals, playing at home,
fell into a huge hole. They got some points late
in the game in the fourth quarter, but you know,
at some point you wonder you had the Lions figured
they had this game wrapped up, right, because they had
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such a big lead. So what does Zach Taylor decide
to do. I think the rock in a hard place
that he's in is that you look at his other options,
Cincinnati's other options at quarterback. You have Brett Rippin on
the active roster, you have Mike White and the former
Packers Sean Clifford on the practice squad. The problem for
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Zach Taylor is all three of those other options did
not arrive in Cincinnati until the end of training camp
or later. So if you're going to make a change
and move on from Browning and give somebody else a shot,
It's not quite the Malik Willis situation last year that
the Packers are in, but it's awfully close where somebody
kind of just got there and is just learning the
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offense and kind of getting their feed under them in
Zach Taylor's system, and then you're gonna throw them out
there against the Green Bay Packers at lambeau Field. It's
a tough spot for Zach Taylor to be and he
says he's gonna announce on Wednesday, when the Bengals begin
their practice week to get ready to come to Green Bay.
He's gonna make the quarterback announcement then. But he doesn't
have a lot of good options right now.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
No, And I think the prudent move, if I'm being
completely honest with you, would be to stick with Browning
because I think so too. But he's been there for years.
I mean, this isn't just like, Okay, well they signed
a guy in the off season, they went, they threw
him out there, and he's not doing Jake Browning has
been the number two to Joe Burrow in all of
these situations when Burrow has been injured. Right I look
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at that entire offense right now as being in flux.
They've had a lot of injuries on the offensive line.
Former Packer Lucas Patrick has been on injured reserve with
an injury. I mean, they signed Dalton Reisner at the
start of the season. Chase brown right now is averaging
two and a half yards per carry. You saw those
statistics through the first two or three weeks of the
season where he had negative yards rushing before contact. Yeah,
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and it wasn't just by like one, it was like
by fifty. That entire offense outside of the receiver position
has been in flux. And the other thing I would
say too, is that, with all due respect to Brett
Brett Rippon, when he came into Green Bay two years ago,
it didn't go very well.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
No, he did not look good, and that was not
the same Packers defense then that he would be facing
this time.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
I mean, it was one of the more dominant victories
in the Mattlafloor era. So Browning's the guy that you
committed yourself to, So it would be somewhat quizzical to
me if they decided to make that switch. Now we'll
see what happens. But to your other point, Mike White
and Sean Clifford both got there after the injury to Burrow,
So in that regard, it really does come down to
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is it Browning is it Rippin? And if it is
that guy, can you protect him.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah, and Rippin didn't show up until the last week
of August, right from what I understand. So all right, well,
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all right, West NFC North Detroit Lions four on one,
Green Bay Packers two to one on one, Minnesota Vikings
three and two, Chicago Bears two and two. Packers and
Bears both had their buy in Week five. But here
we are. Everybody in the division has played either four
or five games, and nobody in the division is below
five hundred. So here we here we go again, as
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they say, for those wondering who's in second place, the
Packers at two to one on one in the Minnesota
Vikings at three and two. Minnesota's winning percentage is six hundred.
The Packers winning percentage is six twenty five. So officially,
the Packers are in second place for those who care
about such things. But hey, as we've been talking about
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for the last few weeks now, the Detroit Lions aren't
going anywhere. The Packers got a big win over Detroit.
It's the Packers' only division games so far, so it
was a big one to get and the Packers got it.
But the Lions are back on top, and quite frankly,
these last four games, with the Lions chalking up four
straight victories, they've looked pretty darn good and doing so.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
And it's not just that the Lions are back on
top offensively, They're back to doing what they do best, right.
I mean, they are running the football down team's throats.
Jared Goff is throwing off of that in Amana, Saint
Brown is getting those ten yard catches to extend first downs.
They have a very vivid blueprint for how they win
football games and they're very good at doing it.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
When you look at the consistency and the teams that
have been the perennial front runners right now in the NFC,
it's Detroit and it's Philadelphia, and it's because of their consistency.
They know their identity, they played that identity and they've
had success with it. Now. All that being said, I mean,
they've had very winnable matchups now to Green Bays point,
they also played the Cleveland Browns. They also could have
beaten the Cleveland Browns, although they did not get the
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benefit of having them at lambeau Field, but they laid
the SmackDown Detroit did over the Bears. They go and
beat a Baltimore Ravens team now that obviously doesn't have
Lamar Jackson but is struggling all around. Yes, the precipitous
fall here of their defense played into that game against
the Lions Mercy and then the CINCINNTI Bengals don't. I
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couldn't honestly tell you everything that happened in the fourth
quarter or why the Bengals made that thing closer than
it was. It seemed like they had some sustained drives.
I didn't watch it.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
There was one of the touchdowns was a big, like
sixty yard touchdown pass to Jamar Chase, where somehow, even
though the Lions were up by multiple scores, they let
Chase get behind them and so they hit a big
touchdown there. They did have a couple of other sustained drives,
but the Lions I think it built like a twenty
eight to three lead or something like that.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I mean, seven twenty four does not represent what that game, No,
absolutely it was not. It was a route. So all
that being said, the point I want to raise here
about Detroit, and it goes back to what I said
after the Packers beat them, that was a pivotal win.
It was a pivotal win in the NFC North. It
was a pivotal win in this conference. Because I don't
think the Lions are going away as far as trying
to secure that number one seed again after everything that
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happened last year, and for them now, I mean, you
look at the schedule that they have coming up, Kansas
City at Kansas City, but the Chiefs are reeling. Tampa
Bay is going to be a tough one. Then they
get thereby and then they got Minnesota, Washington and Philadelphia.
I mean, the Lions took care of business, and if
they can get through this upcoming stretch on the winning
side of these next three four games, I mean, they're
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going to be a team to really be feared here
in the second half.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Well, in a non Packers weekend of football, it was
quite the interesting Week five in the NFL because you
had the Philadelphia Eagles and the Buffalo Bills both take
their first loss of the season and both lost at home.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Yeah, the Eagles the losses at home this week.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Yeah, the Eagles blowing a fourteen point fourth quarter lead
at home to the Denver Broncos. And the Buffalo Bills
losing to a division rival in the New England Patriots
in prime time. Buffalo losing a home prime time game
is not something I thought we'd be talking about here
on the show. The other thing when you look at
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Week five in the NFL, so the Panthers, the Saints,
the Broncos, as I mentioned, the Titans, and the Commanders
all erased double digit deficits to come back and post victories.
Five teams coming back from double digit deficits in one weekend.
In one Sunday of NFL football, it was uh and
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heck and you And then this whole week started with
a banged up San Francisco forty nine Ers team knocking
off a division rival in the LA Rams on Thursday
Night football.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
So just just a.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Really interesting week, but a week that it's typical of
the NFL, because there is no such thing as a
typical week in the NFL. That's how this league goes.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah, in the week to nature of it is just
beyond compare. It is so difficult to stretch wins together.
It is so difficult to impose your will and not
be one of those teams that ends up, you know,
dropping an LA Chargers loss to the Giants that seems
to have kind of gotten in the Chargers head a
little bit, in addition to some injuries that they're dealing with,
particularly in the background or the backfield. But the one
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thing I thought about is I was going through these
games and I was obviously watching the Thursday night game
between the forty nine Ers and the Rams that I
think you've got to give everybody credit on the Kyle
Shanahan Sean McVay coaching treas. When push comes to shove
and they lose quarterbacks, they find ways to win, and
that is so difficult to do. I mean, you're looking
at what's happening right now at Cincinnati and building an
offense and building game plans and allowing you know, your
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quarterback to have success. Kyle Shanahan's done that with Mac Jones. Obviously,
Kevin O'Connell has done that time and time again with
the quarterbacks and the emergency fill ins that they've had
in the Vikings, And to Matt Lefluor's credit, he did
it last year with Milik Willis right. So for the
San Francisco Fortinires and Is they've brought up to I
forget who this was in the forty nine ers organization,
but San Francisco in LA is a sneaky rivalry like
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that has been. It's not bad blood, but I mean
there's been a lot of competitiveness there and a lot
of forty nine Er wins too over the last few years.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Yeah, it's it seems like it seems like that that rivalry,
that division clash, you know, sort of elevated itself to
a rivalry when they played each other in the NFC Championship, Yes,
a rifle of years ago, and that NFC Championship was
at Sofi Stadium in LA. But every time the forty
nine Ers play there, the entire stadium is decked out
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and read all the forty nine Ers fans show up
in LA to cheer on their team against the Rams.
And we saw that again. We saw that again on
Thursday Night Football. These teams, the Rams and the Chargers,
it's like they never actually play home games, you know.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I mean in the Raiders. What's that Raiders?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, the Raiders are in that same boat now that
they're not in Oakland anymore. They're in Las Vegas and
their stadium gets in by everybody else. So here's the
other thing I want to run by you though. We
talked about. Okay, so Buffalo and Philadelphia take their first
losses there. For in one we mentioned that the Lions
are four and one. But here's the other list, Wes,
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the Colts, the Jaguars, the Buccaneers, and the forty nine ers.
They are also all four and one. There are seven
four and one teams across the league right now. I
don't think you know, you can say, I mean, who
are the surprises. I don't think anybody would have thought
at this stage that both the Colts and the Jaguars
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would be four said, and then the next one on
the list. You wouldn't think the Buccaneers would be there.
But Baker Mayfield just keeps pulling off this late game
magic stuff, and for as rough a game as his
as the Buccaneers defense had against the Seattle Seahawks in Seattle,
the defense gets the big interception in the last minute
and sets up the game winning field goal and Tampa
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Bay gets on that long flight home from Seattle with
another victory.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Yeah, there was a comparison when Baker came out so
many years ago now between him and Brett Favre, and
I just think it's held up so well. He is
that type of quarterback, and obviously Cleveland didn't really have
the patience with him, but he's blossomed into something special
and by all accounts, man, he's going to be the
Buccaneers quarterback here for the foreseeable future. No, is it
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just some stop gap. I mean, this is their guy,
and it's incredible what he's done to, you know, mount
that resurgence. But at the same time, what's happening with
Indianapolis is why I love professional football, because, including myself here,
everybody left Daniel Jones for dead. Everybody kind of scoffed
at the signing of Daniel Jones, being like, well, what
are you doing bringing him in to compete with Anthony Richardson.
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If you're signing him, you're just waving the white flag already.
I mean, you're just conceding this thing to Richardson. And
then the guy put together a competitive training camp and
ultimately gets the nod, and here he is, you know,
leading this Colts offense. That's actually one of the more
entertaining football teams in the league right now.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
And if not, and if not for ad and I
Mitchell losing control of the ball while crossing what would
have been crossing the goal line for a touchdown against
the Rams two weeks ago, we'd be talking about the
Indianapolis Colts as the only five and zero team in
the NFL, right now, that that one play is the
difference now. Also, they got a last second victory over
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the Broncos when the whole leverage thing was called on
the field goal and their kicker got another crack and
he made it. You know, So there's that too, but
that you know, that's this league. But yeah, you know,
we watched the Packers and the Colts in a joint
practice in Indianapolis, and then we watched them play a
preseason game and both teams kind of going into that
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preseason game with different goals and everything. But I did
not leave Indianapolis in the middle of August and come
back to Green Bay West thinking that that Indianapolis Colts
team was going to be four and one here in
early October.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
No, and they've been super impressive. And when you asked
me the biggest surprise, it is the fact that the
AFC South has two four and one teams and neither
of them are Houston. Yeah it, you know, and give
credit to Liam Cohen and what they've built in Jacksonville.
And no doubt, you know, not a bad defense that's
being coordinated down there now by a certain former Packers linebackers.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Coach coach Campanelli.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
But this is this is what the National Football Leagu's
all about. Now, you got to sustain it. They're shooting
stars every season that then flicker and fall. Yeah, so
it is going to be a battle of what happens.
But if you if you look at what Kansas City's
going through right now after the loss to Jacksonville, if you.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Look at a fourteen point lead on Monday Night football.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
For real, and then you look at you know, Baltimore
now is going through it. Lamar Jackson dealing with the
hamstring injury, which is just awful for his game and
the way he wants to play for sure in the mound.
I mean, we're talking about an historic amount of yardage
right now that the Ravens are relinquishing defensively, which we
are not accustomed to over Baltimore over the last twenty
five yearsicularly during the John Harbough era. They would all
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be dying to be in the position right now that
the Colts are in, that the Jaguars are in. And
then you look at a team like the New York
Jets who are zero to five and have not forced
a turnover yet this season. It is football is a difficult,
difficult game. So yeah, when you win, when you get
off to a three plus three in the win column
through the first month of the season, that's an accomplishment.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yeah, And just I think the best example right now
in the NFL of how quickly things can turn, and
we talked about it last week and what we're talking
about again this week is the Los Angeles Chargers. They
start out the season three and zero. They look like
they have everything going for him. They go on the road,
fly across country to Jersey to play a winless New
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York Giants team that is starting a rookie quarterback for
the first time, and they drop that one. Then they're
looking like they're on the verge of bouncing back, jumping
out to a ten tohing lead against Washington. They're driving
for a touchdown that's going to put them up seventeen
to nothing. The receiver makes the catch, fumbles the ball,
Washington recovers, and the Chargers don't score the rest of
(25:09):
the game and lose twenty seven to ten. After leading
ten to nothing and looking like they were going to
extend that lead. That is how quickly things can turn. Now,
suddenly the Chargers who two weeks ago were three and
Oero are now three and two, and everybody's asking where
is their season headed? Right, So it's a long haul.
As we say, it's a marathon, it's not a sprint.
There are a ton of games left, All sorts of
(25:30):
things can happen. All that matters for the Packers right now,
they got their by they got their rest, hopefully they're
getting healthy. And now you've got a struggling team coming
into Lambeufield and we'll talk more about them on our neck.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Yeah, and AFC games uncommon opponents. Non conference games are
sort of the fast food of this thing, like they're
not necessarily that great for you, but you need them occasionally.
And last year the Packers making the playoffs was built
a lot on their success against the FCCL.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeap sweeping at all four all four victories.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
So while you want to get you want to win
in the North. You want to win these NFC games
when you face the Dallas Cowboys, especially those cross conference
games or across division games. Excuse me, the Packers have
to get back because now you look at Cleveland and
the struggles that they had against everybody else within the division.
That stuff all comes out in the wash at the
end of the season. So for the Packers, the only
(26:19):
thing they can focus on right now is Cincinnati. We'll
preview it on Thursday, but the Bengals are hurting unit
and as I wrote an insider Inbox, now is the
time for the Packers to pounce.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Absolutely, and presumably later in the week we will have
an answer on Cincinnati's quarterback as we dive into that
team a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
But we'll just make it up.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
We'll call it a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscript.
You'd be sure to follow all of our coverage of
the team on Packers dot com. For West, I'm Mike.
Thank you for tuning in everybody. We will see you
next time.
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