August 20, 2024 • 43 mins
This week on Panther Talk, Anish Shroff, Jim Szoke and Eugene Robinson talk with Dave Canales, A'Shawn Robinson and Ryan Leaf to discuss Panther's preseason game number 2, look ahead to the Panthers final preseason game, Bryce Young's development and so much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Bill and Johnson hit the idle line of scrimage, tweeting
and wing up.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
The goal line touchdown, the brandlak.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
The mentality that we're looking for was captured in that moment,
and I thought it was just so cool because that's
Panthers football, the standard. So it's like, regardless of where
you're at at any time with us, it's got to
feel that way. And so I was just so excited
to be able to point to that in front of
the team and go, that's what we look like right there.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
And now along with Eugene Robinson, Kears a niche shruff
with Panther Talk live from the Panthers broadcast facility at
Bank of America Stadium.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
And a shrop Eugene Robinson, Happy Monday to you. Jim
Zochy not with us today, He'll be back next week.
You heard Jim's call. Dylan Johnson at the Horn runs
it in for a touchdown. Do have some news Dylan
Johnson was waived today.
Speaker 6 (01:18):
Oat but huh, but what?
Speaker 5 (01:21):
I don't want to start things on a downer. I
want to start on the one word Dave Canalis has
been using over and over and over since he got
the job. That was finish and again preseason, make of
it what you may, but you saw the starters get
fired up. There are small moments that what happens on
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the scoreboard is almost secondary to the feeling afterwards. And
I think that last play, hey play four quarters, finish
the game, the play before when Johnson kept his feet
moving and that she did punches it into the end zone,
broke a tackle on that touchdown at the end. Again,
it speaks to this bigger idea of what sort of
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culture do you want to build, what sort of football
team do you want to put forward? What do you
want the identity of this team to be. We've talked
about that through this preseason, finding that identity. That was
a moment. Even though Dylan Johnson is no longer on
the team, that's the reality, that's the business side. But
that was I thought a moment to take away that
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maybe adds a few spices into the pot when it
comes to team chemistry, galvanizing a roster, those intangible things,
those feel good things that we talk about this time
of year.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
I mean, first of all, you know, those are coaches decisions,
and they do what they do and they know a
lot better than I would know. Having said that, I
thought that what I saw from Dylan Johnson, the lateral movement,
able to hit the ball on the outside, stetharmer man,
get up the football field, break tackles. I thought that
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was a winning characteristic. You want to be able to
see that this is what the offense is gonna look like.
I saw some double team blocks in there and moving
off to the linebackers. I'm like, okay, I've seen some
things where we'll go, yeah, you can, you can definitely
build on. And I thought basically it was embodied in
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Dylan Johnson's play. Uh so, but you know, I mean
preface that once again, coaches know a lot more than
I know. You know, I'm just a puning on on
the air, going, hey, what what I think? They know
what team chemistry, they know what they're looking for. They
know if they already have the same Dylan Johnson already
on the field already or somewhere on the bench. So
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I'll leave it to coach Canals to do that. But
if I have to go say about characteristic and getting gritty,
I thought Dylan Johnson embodied.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
That, yeah again and he had the one touchdown that
the Panthers have scored in the two games. Some other
roster moves today that the Panthers made. They signed a
couple of corners, Chris Wilcox, Quandre Moseley. Willcox former BYU
cornerback Moseley, you know, kind of came up. He's bounced around.
He was with Dallas. Cornerback Willie Drew, who was with
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the team earlier this preseason, along with wide receiver Sam
Pinckney and running back Jaden Sheridan have all been signed.
Back Jake Lowton, the quarterback goes on ir as does
cornerback Anthony Brown. And then this is part of the
reality here. So Tavion Robinson the receiver waved injured and
Lamar Jackson waved injured. And again, when you're one of
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these guys battling for spot fifty two, fifty three, fifty one,
you're on the periphery of that roster. Again, the reality
of the NFL, the business side of it. He can't
stay healthy and you're not available.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
And that's why it's so important in preseason if you're
in particularly how coach Canalis has had a preseason where
you have a lot of number twos and number three's
that are playing. You better shine. You got a very
limited time to go ahead and there and look good.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
Who's the guy who comes to mind, number forty on
the team, Derek Uh McLendon mclindon. Yeah, mclindon.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
He's made some plays.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
He's made some place, even when that the penalty that
happened on a plate that he almost like it looked
like it was a sack to me, I'm like, man,
it's still off the edge. When he's out there, he's
he's making a statement. That's what you need to do,
you know. And so you know, for these young guys
when you're on the field, man, you better shine because
guess what, you only get that limited time to go
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ahead and make an impression, and not a good impression,
you're gonna be gone.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
One preseason game left Saturday at Buffalo. The Bills have
already said they're not playing their starters. We'll see what
the Panthers reveal later this week. I think the expectation is, uh,
if the starters play will probably be brief, if at all.
I'll say this, as you start to get through the
roster and go position group by position group. Quarterbacks, I
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think you know who we're gonna see. It's gonna be Bryce,
It's gonna be Andy Dalton, running backs, Chewba Hubbard, Miles Sanders,
Raheem Black, Schear. They all look safe. That last spot.
Mike Boone because of his ability to play special teams most.
I think he's probably got the lego.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
He had a pretty good game in the very first
first game.
Speaker 7 (06:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
Uh, receiver in tight end gets interesting. You know we
We've said David Moore, a Mere Smith, Marsett, Terras Marshall,
those three vying for one maybe.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
Maybe one position. I'm telling you what. And I think
the guy who's the favorite too, because I see him
in the backfield and they're trying to get him on
the sweeps of stuff. I think it's Marsett Smith. Marsette
seems to be that guy. He had three catches last
week on this past game. But he's he's a ball
of energy and special teams wise, he can make things happen.
He can make things happen in a punt and he
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can make things happen on a kickoff return team. So
he's that guy that I think becomes the favorite. There's
not enough uh fought to go around. It's not it's
so you gotta make you gotta make the mess of it.
And don't forget Marshall's a guy that's you know, we've
been waiting for you to blossom for a while. We've
been waiting for you to go ahead and have that
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coming out party, and you have not had it yet.
It's gonna be This is a new coaching staff. They
don't have the luxury all the time to wait or
for you to blossom. Go oh, is this what We're
gonna go ahead and see.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
They also don't have the investment. They didn't draft you exactly,
they don't have currency invested in you. And Terrace Marshall
has to prove it you got and he's got maybe
one game. And again, David Moore can play special teams
or here Smith Marsett plays on special teams. So marshall
situation is interesting because if he makes the team, let's
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say he's the sixth guy, it likely means they're pulling
a guy from another position group who can also help
on special teams. So he kind of needs that, I think,
to work in his favor to be on the fifty three.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
Yeah, I think he definitely has to be. It has specialty.
Hes becomes a premium that you gotta be that that guy.
But once again, I think that with the tight end
situation too, that's a big one. That's a.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
You know, so let me ask you this. You're gonna
go into the season. You got Tommy Trumble who's now healthy.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I like him.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
You got j T Sanders who's a rookie. Yep, Jordan
Matthews can help you as a pass catcher. In the
blocking game, Again, this guy's a converted wide receiver. He's
not remotely there as a blocker. I have to think
there is a fourth tight end they're taking who can
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fill the void somewhat left by Ian Thomas until Thomas
is healthy. And again you got the number one waiver priority.
It may be a guy who's not on the roster.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
And don't forget here what Jordan Matthew's you know, don't
think he's a converted receiver to tight end. That's currency
to me because guess what if I'm thinking of if
I'm coach Canalis that said, if I had to have
a guy to go up and line up on the
outside to go run a route, can I have this
tight end do that route? Absolutely? Yeah, So he becomes
really versatile in my opinion, as a guy that can
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who can play this, you know, as a z And
he's had a good camp and he hasn't any and
you said you've been watching him camp. He's had a
good camp. So I think it's a guy who's going
to be on the team. And I think he's a
guy that's going to be one of those number one,
number two guys starting for the team.
Speaker 7 (09:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
I look at tight end and I think once the
dust settles cut days August twenty seventh, the Panthers are
going to look at all the available tight ends. I
think at least one, potentially two depending on what happens
on Saturday.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
And what do you think about Trimble. I've always been
a fan of Trimble. I like I just like him.
I think there's something about him. But I think that
he may be near that bubble as well.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
I think Tommy Trumple's safe. Do you think he's saying,
I think Tommy Trimble said he offers blocking. You line
him up as an h back, you can. You can
put him in at full back if you need to.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
And don't forget we don't really have a fullback. How
tied it as a fullback.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Right, And and I think he's I think he's shown
you enough that he can be at the very least,
you know, a secondary tight end. I still watch him,
Eugene and and you know, I say this if you're
around Tommy Tremble, great kid, personally, good guy, easy to
root for, but you just get the sense there might
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be more there. I I've always thought with Tommy there's
there's more there.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
Tommy Tremble reminds me of He's kind of not like
he's Wesley Walls. Like the fact that he can catch
the ball.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
Wesley Walls was a late bloomer in his career too.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
Dude, he can catch, and I like the way he
runs routes. I've always liked. I've always liked the fact
that he's one of those guys that is underneath the
radar and he's really really good. I think he's very
very good. And so from that standpoint, I mean they
got some decisions to make no out about that, but
I hope that he finds himself on this team.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
How many catches do you think Wesley Walls had in
his first four pro seasons?
Speaker 6 (11:09):
First four pro seasons.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
You might as well go five. Now he was hurt
for a little bit there, first five seasons. Now playing
behind Brent Jones.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
You're playing behind Brent Jones, San Francis, San Francisco. I
will say if you almost average somewhere around twenty in
the first five, is less than one hundred.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
Less than one hundred. Yes, he had eleven catches in
his first.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
Five Wow, oh my goodness.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
I mean, look, goes to the Saints, has a couple
of productive seasons, and then you know, we all know
what he was in Carolina. He was one of the
more dependable tight ends in the league with the Panthers.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
And here it is that West Coast offense that ran
and also with the Panthers ran back in the day.
I mean the not rot that he would run. He
would absolutely you know what's coming, and he still can
fool you. And he's big old presents where you can
get his body to, you know, to really kind of
like box you out a little bit to say these.
I always thought he was one of those really good
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receivers that can just give you fits some problems that
ain't gonna block you to the hill, but he's gonna
catch that route.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
He didn't have his first Pro Bowl season till ninety
six with the Panthers at age thirty.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Yeah, now again, Tommy Tremble contract.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Dear.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
I still think there's more there, and to me, I
think he's safe. The offensive line I do find fascinating
because it's the most expensive offensive line in the NFL.
They've invent a lot of money on the interior with
Hunt and Lewis. We've talked about that. I'm not worried
about Corbett at center. I think he'll be fine. Obviously,
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we need Ikey Akwanu to have a bounce back season
play like somebody who has the pedigree of a top
six pick. Taylor Moten has been rock solid. A little
banged up in camp, but he's been rock solid at
right tackle for his Panthers career. The depth behind that
right Josh Niman was signed to be the swing tackle.
He's hurt Ricky Lee they like they liked them last year,
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but a project right is he going to be ready.
Chandler Zavalla again, somebody who was a developmental guy. He
was thrown into the fire way too early last year.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
I thought, I thought he was in the fire away
too early, and I thought because of that, I thought
his confidence started to wane. And I thought because of that, Uh,
he wasn't as productive as he could have been. Because
I really think he's a really productive slash guard, slash tackle.
I think he's really productive. But you know what confidence.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
So if you're looking at the depth up front, now,
Brady Christensen can play any position on the offensive line.
That's a luxury to me. That's a real strong six.
I mean, if that's your sixth guy, you're in good shape.
Cade mays he's got the shoulder injury. You get past six,
you get past the five starters and Brady Christensen.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
There's a lot of questions, there's a there's a lot
of questions here. It is what.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
How many guards did we use last fifteen?
Speaker 6 (14:02):
We use a whole bunch of them, and we had
to because of injury. I mean that was because that's
part for the course. We all knew that. But would
you think about moving Brady Christensen to tackle and swap
in this position with Equano and move him to the guard.
I'm just throwing that out there. And the reason why
I'm throwing that out there, I think Equano is a
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better guard than he is a tackling, and I think
that Brady Christensen can be a better tackle. And I
would say give him a little help. Put the back
on the side, move the tight end to that side
to go ahead and eat things, because I really believe
that Quanto's playing out a position.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Where are you putting Aquanta?
Speaker 6 (14:42):
Then though we put him at the guard.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Is he going to start off a Robert Hunt and
Damian Lewis so you hand it out nine figures in totality.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
To what I've always felt with Aquanto is that he wants.
I think he's a road grader. I think he's a
guy who will punch you in the mouth, like really
punch it off and move you off the line. I think,
you know, I get what we get with the money
and you and you're looking to fill those spots. But
I think he's playing out of position. I said the
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same thing about Ken Easiley. Ken easily had forty interceptions
in his career, knocking folks out, and I told him,
I said, you know what, you've played out of position.
You should be a free safety, not a strong safety.
He said, you're absolutely right. If I out of putting
free safety, I would have seventy interceptions that said, you're
right because they played you out of position, because you
because you can hit. You're that guy. I get it.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
If you move a Kwanu right now off of tackle,
he's going to the bench, and you're essentially saying a
guy you took with the sixth pick in the draft
two years ago is no longer a starter on this
football team. I don't see them giving up on Ikey
Aquan who just yet. I think he's gonna have every
opportunity to solidify himself at left tackle. I don't see it.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
And so, okay, let's let's let's let's play this thing out.
If we can play it out, what happens if he
doesn't sofi us so by himself at the tackle spot,
then what do you do the next year?
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Well, again, with him, he's going into year three after
the season, you have to decide in his fifty year
option exactly, so that decision then comes into play, right
and then and.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
Then you face with the same thing as like, oh, well,
maybe he wasn't that guy at the left tackle spot
that we thought he would be, and you hope that's
not the case, and you hope that's not the case.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
I still think the best case scenario for this team
is that Ikey is the left tackle anchor that he
was drafted to be and he gets better in past protection.
You know, we've said this, and we're coming up against
a break.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
There are certain.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Guys on this team who have room to grow and
there's that potential vacuum where they can fill more than
what we've seen. Ikey is high on that list. If
Ikey Aquanu can be what not just the Panthers, but
the rest of the NFL saw him as you got
a franchise left tackle. I don't think you punt on
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that after two seasons. Let's see what happens with a
new scheme, and let's see what happens with more established
guys around him.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
Yeah. I get that. Let's put some more established guys
and let me let me put the tight into that
side and running back to that side to help mut
and to get get him little bit comfortable.
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Speaker 4 (18:05):
What I saw was just the finish of plays. And
I've been just really harping on the guys at Garrod,
harping on the guys to finish, finish.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
On the ball.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
So that part from a defensive standpoint, definitely saw another
step in the right direction. Offensively, we were cleaner pre snap.
That was a step forward. But we had holding calls,
We had some things that came up. There were some
really close calls. You know, an ineligible downfield, you know,
a block out side on a bubble screen. You know,
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so some really close calls and I felt like, you know,
some of those things really ten penalties on the day.
That's something we have to continue to hammer in practice
so we can get good, clean football and play the
way we did in the last drive. If we can
stay on schedule, if we can eliminate the penalties, we
can run the ball more, we can throw our boots
in our actions, and it allows us to really stay
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on schedule and get opportunities to score.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
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Speaker 5 (19:02):
Back here on Panther Talk with Carolina head coach Dave Canalis.
Let's start with the end of the last preseason game.
What did it mean to score that touchdown?
Speaker 7 (19:12):
I love that you started with the end in mind.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
So the finish of it is what I was most
excited about. The touchdown was icing on the cake. We
just had enough time. Jake Luton got the guys organized.
It was about twenty two seconds to get it organized,
got the play call in, got everybody lined up, and
then and then Dylan kind of did the rest. You know,
there's an unblocked guy, but everyone the play before pushing
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the pile, finishing all the way through the echo of
the whistle. The mentality that we're looking for was captured
in that moment, and I thought it was just so
cool because that's Panthers football, the standard. So it's like,
regardless of where you're at at any time with us,
it's got to feel that way. And so I was
just so excited to be able to point to that
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in front of the team and go, that's what we
look like right there, and that'll be a four minute drill.
We'll be ahead in some games, we'll be we'll finish
with running the ball the way we want to.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
How did that resonate amongst some of the starters and
the guys on the sideline, Oh.
Speaker 7 (20:14):
They were excited.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
I mean that, you know they I think that it
was cool for them to see just a heart, you know,
and to be proud of that's who we are. You know,
we're a finishing team. And that's the message to the
team is let our calling card be finished. We finish
everything we do. Finish plays, drives, quarters, has, finish games,
finish seasons with that mentality that we're going to be
there all the way as long as there's time on
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the clock we're going to be playing.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
What was your assessment of the offensive line?
Speaker 4 (20:41):
I thought, considering that Jack Anderson, Mason Brooks, Ike, Butker
Tyler Smith, Am I missing someone? Those are my four guys.
They got They got here within the last four days,
and really Ike and Mason the day before showing up,
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spending time with Kille our assistant O line coach, and
Dean Petsing our offensive quality control those guys. Just spending
extra time with those guys just to get them prepared
and comfortable so they can play fast and be physical
the way that they are.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
And I really.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Felt like one false start, one pre snap penalty, a
couple of things and calls lineman down the field, just
a little bit of confusion that happened a few times.
But all things considered, I mean, what a great day
for us to be able to evaluate guys, the skill
position guys and them just being available the whole time.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
What did you take away from a couple of the
kick returns the Jets had, As I know everyone's still
sort of adjusting to these new rules.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Yeah, just a couple of big cutback runs, just lost
leverage on a few spot could have been fatigue definitely,
just you know, assignment football. We lost leverage and they
had a pretty good returner back there, and he kind
of made the most of it, you know, and flipped
the field on us. So that was one punt and
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then one of them was kick returned. So the scheme
on the kickoff return, that's obviously something that we have
to look at and go, Okay, this is a vulnerability.
Speaker 7 (22:23):
For our cover unit.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
The punt return is classic just it was a guy
out a lot, out of a lane and someone not replacing,
you know, to contain and can keep leverage.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Describe what you saw out of Trevin Wallace and Claude
and Shareless.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Yeah, Trevin, I mean, I can't talk about Trevin and
Claude without talking about Pete Henson, our linebackers coach. He's
done a fantastic job with that room. It's a really good,
strong room. Guys that bring a lot of different things.
So Trevin, you know, he's kind of like that. The size,
the sideline, the sidelines, speed, you know, really a monster
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in there. And he's also the youngest, so he's bringing
him along and you see his confidence grow from one
week to the next. Shooting gaps now taking his chances
when he can, you know, Claude and really just settling in,
you know, second year in the system, settling in and
you can see his speed show up. You know, he
strikes guy. He's got a lot of he's compact, got
a lot of power, you know. And so I just
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I'd love seeing that tandem in there kind of working
talking through things, you know, and we still got a
wye to go though in terms of just playing the pass,
getting to our landmarks and being sticky in our zones.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
Who impressed you on the back end of that defense?
Speaker 6 (23:32):
Oh man?
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Uh, you know, I thought Alex Cook had another good day.
Demani Richardson made a made an interception, you know, on
an overthrow, was in the right place, you know, Jamie Robinson,
you know, just the flexibility of being able to play nickel,
play safety, you know, I thought, I thought Jamie is
really carrying the flag for the physicality and the aggression
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we're looking for finishing off tackles and you know, especially
when the when the ball carriers are wrapped up, being
able to just be that last stopping force to really
just make sure that play is done right there. So
love seeing him do that, and uh, you know, when
Alex is out there, it's just it's great. Just the
communication is working, it's so smooth and all that.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
Dave, with this last preseason game coming on Saturday, what
do the last couple of weeks before the regular season
look like from your end?
Speaker 4 (24:26):
You know, as we get closer to the to the
regular season, we have such precious opportunities and only a
few of them left, So it's really important that we
nail every single one of these practices. Is the biggest
practice of our life. And I say that a lot,
but it really is true, because this is the time
where we can push them. This is the time where
we can you know, stay paded up, get after it,
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simulate game type of type of environment, you know, in
different situations where we can manage the situations and throw
it at them, give them a little heads up like
this is what to expect in these in these spots,
you know, because as you get closer the season, your
practice has become more like a regular season practice. But
while we still have this chance to be in camp mode,
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to get our walkthroughs, to get all of our you know,
the longer practice periods, you know, and those things they're
really really critical and that's really what I've been focused on.
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Hey Sean Robinson, joining us now and not your first
go around with a training camp. You've been around a
couple of different teams obviously with the Rams, the Giants and
so forth.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
How is this one compared to things throughout your career.
Speaker 9 (26:16):
It's been great, you know, come into a new experience,
a new team and creating new bonds and stuff. I
really enjoy this in the chemistry we've been building throughout
the spring until now and really formulating our team and
really identity.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
You know I'm forming that.
Speaker 9 (26:27):
You know it's early, still early in training camp, but
you know you still start forming those things right now.
So that's been great with the guys.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
How would you vocalize what that identity or what that
culture is for this current edition.
Speaker 9 (26:39):
Tough Nose, you know, playing with discipline, having an effort, read,
having our keys, knowing exactly how Simon's playing our roles,
doing it to the highest level, and just understanding the ball,
working as a team, having that chemistry, knowing what your
brother's got, what he's thinking, what he sees, and he's
just playing with the attitude.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
A lot of players here on the defensive side have
some connection to a Jarro Aberrow. What does he meant
to you and what if what about him makes a
coach that you want to play for?
Speaker 7 (27:04):
Coach E He's great.
Speaker 9 (27:05):
You know he's in on the rams with me and
he demands to have that eye discipline, that mental discipline,
that effort, that toughness about you, having that attitude and
really playing with a demeanor and that energy flying around,
having your boys back and everything, and so that's a
part of me and that's who I am.
Speaker 7 (27:25):
So I enjoyed doing that. Knobs, having a coach like that, got.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
A veteran group up there with Jadevian Clowney. You got
shy tittle obviously, Derek Brown. What do you like about
this group? Let's talk about that defensive line collectively. What
you're seeing out of them.
Speaker 9 (27:37):
It's great, you know, to be able to match our
games together and really work off one another and feel.
Speaker 7 (27:42):
And read things. It's been great.
Speaker 9 (27:43):
And having that that discipline, knowing that you know your
brother has your back, and knowing that he's gonna do
his job at the ultimate level.
Speaker 7 (27:49):
So it's been great.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Nobody compares with Aaron Donald, But what have you seen
out of Derek Brown. He's certainly he's one of the
best young defensive tackles in this league.
Speaker 9 (27:56):
Yeah, that's recking Ralph. He's been destroyed, destroying stuff, disruptive,
you know, just like Greg and Ralph, you know, just
getting that there, making plays play out to play and
just you know, getting everybody better and being on everyone
to do more, to be more. So it's been great
to have a young player like that, to have that
calber and that mindset, it's great.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Mantionon Aaron Donalds. He's a one to the maybe couple
generational player. What was it like about him as far
as playing with him that made him stand out?
Speaker 6 (28:24):
Like?
Speaker 2 (28:24):
What was he able to do that nobody else has
been able to do at that position?
Speaker 9 (28:27):
His work ethic, it was top than none, Like no one,
No one worked harder than that man I've ever seen
in my entire life.
Speaker 7 (28:34):
So that's what it was for him. He worked day in,
day out, didn't take any.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Days off, I would think so like Jjvian Clowney too,
because he's been with a couple of different teams. You
guys kind of quickly mesh out what it supposed because
of that.
Speaker 7 (28:45):
Yeah, definitely he's the same.
Speaker 9 (28:47):
You know, he's a great freak off the edge, sixty
six long arms, god's power, got quickness, explosive, his close offs,
closing speed, and he plays with physicality.
Speaker 7 (28:56):
It's great.
Speaker 9 (28:56):
Has an attitude, you know, commands commands a double team
or chip, you know, just a slide just to give
us a more opportunity inside to push your pocket. So
when he does get his chip and works off of
that he can still have an effective rush bile that's moving.
Speaker 7 (29:09):
And push in the pocket. All right.
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had a restaurant or life in Charlotte, how's how's it
hitting you so far here?
Speaker 7 (29:17):
Life's great.
Speaker 9 (29:18):
You know, I went to school Alabama, so coming back
to the South, it's been great. I enjoy this more
than California. You know, it's closer to me because I'm
from Texas. So restaurants, I say steak forty eight, I liked,
say forty eight, that was nice, and then probably Big
Daddy's up by Morrisville.
Speaker 7 (29:37):
I think that was nice.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
Can't go wrong with the other one of those. Hey show,
great to meet you, Thank you.
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Very nice to meet you. Good job.
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Speaker 5 (30:24):
Really excited for our next guest, who's got great perspective,
not only on what it is to be a quarterback
in the NFL, a highly drafted quarterback, but a rookie
and there's things in being a rookie that we don't
know that the quarterback knows. It was the number two
pick in the nineteen ninety eight draft to stand out
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at Washington State, played with the then San Diego Chargers,
Ryan Leaf, Ryan, really appreciate you coming on a Niche
Shroff here with Eugene Robinson.
Speaker 8 (30:55):
Hey fella, sorry about last week. Got predisposed with h.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Girl.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
Hey with being a dad, we don't understand brothers. No
problem at all, No problem at all.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
Well, you know, Ryan, your story has been well documented,
but from your perspective, and you know, having the background
that you do and having the experience that you do,
when you kind of look in and see what Bryce
Young went through a year ago, fifteen different starting guards,
a coaching change, changing play callers twice during the season,
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and then, oh, by the way, you're a rookie quarterback
on top of all of that. What's that like when
you first enter this league, when you're dealing with so
many variables.
Speaker 8 (31:44):
I mean, it looked verbatim what my rookie season looked like.
You know, coach fired earlier than that after the sixth game,
two offensive callers up, intive line shifts, trading away my
best receiver before the season started. You know, there's just
there was a lot that went into it, and so
you know, and Bryce is certainly way more mature than
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I ever was, and he handled it, I thought, blowingly.
But it was it was as bad of a start
to a career in terms of things he couldn't control
around him as an organization, and you know that that
lands firmly in the owner's jurisdiction, right, I mean, he
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hired a new head coach, he put this thing in action,
they removed that quarterback coach and Josh mcdown, a guy
that thought was going to really be helpful to Bryce.
I mean, it just it couldn't have been more epic
of a failure on that aspect of things.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
Now.
Speaker 8 (32:41):
The biggest jump you make, though, is always between years
one and two. I missed the entire second season because
of a laborum tear in my shoulder. But he's going
to have to learn a new offense, he's going to
have to have a new head coach. He's gonna have
to hear the other voices in his in his in
his helmet. So it's going to be difficult for him.
But you know, you have a really good head coach
that comes over from Tampa Bay who's been a bit
(33:02):
of a quarterback whisperer the last two UH stops he's
made in Seattle and in Tampa. So, uh, I'm excited
to see what it's about. I think Bryce is Is
is as talented as anybody. He clearly showed that he
wouldn't have been the number one overall pick if he wasn't.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (33:17):
He just needs some consistency and he needs to develop
some that confidence fact that he knows that he has.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
You know, Ryan coach Canalis wants Bryce to be able
to get the ball out on two point seven seconds.
I want to get your take on this. Uh, how
effectively can you read as you dropped back with the
to get to go through your progressions and make that
read within two point seven and when does your internal
clock click in and says, oh, I need to improvise
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because it's past that three that three second spot timing.
Speaker 8 (33:49):
Yeah, that's I mean, that's tough. That's that's a pre
set time frame. I feel like that could cause you
to to pre snap determine where you're going to row
to football, and that can always get you in trouble,
especially when they do some movement post snap. But yeah,
but bottom line is the ball's got to get out,
you know. And I was just up in East Lancing
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at Michigan State speaking to the team heading into this season,
and I went to practice and the biggest difference you
really see what the quarterback play from the college level
to the pro level really is the amount of time
they sit in the pocket. They know they have more
time in the pocket in college, and when you get
to the league, you are just you can't figure that
out until it's really too late. As a rookie, you
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got to figure that out and decide where you're gonna
go with the football. And a lot of times that
means there's gonna be a lot of things with the
tight end developing a relationship with the tight end because
he's closer to the line of scrimmage. If he's closer
to you in terms of when that ball can get out,
and then you have to be able to predetermine when
you find and and when you find that that one
on one. Now, if they line up and zone and
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that's a difficult.
Speaker 7 (34:54):
Thing to do.
Speaker 8 (34:55):
When you get that one on one look and you
know where that wins, then you have to take it
to that You've got to go with that, and you
got to go and see if you can get a
win against those situations. And that's been all always been
the most difficult thing I think for young quarterbacks to
find the mismatch when you get that one on one
and take shots with it.
Speaker 6 (35:12):
So also les predicated also want to have a net
receiver too, because you've said that your receiver was taken
away from.
Speaker 8 (35:16):
You, so it is DJ Moore was, yeah, shipped out
of town, and you know, Adam Feeling was an incredible replacement.
Don't get me wrong. DJ Moore is just a guy
that is a difference maker and would have paid huge
dividends for him a year ago. I think to help
him along with the maturation process.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
Yeah, the other part of it, Ryan, and you dealt
with this, and I've seen your tweets. You joke about
it today and you've got a sense of humor about it.
But when you go one two in the draft and
the other guy's a quarterback, and in your case it
was Peyton Manning a spot before you, and I remember
before the draft, Ryan Lee for Peyton Manning, right, it
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was CJ. Stroud or Bryce Young and then c STU
has the type of rookie season that very few in
the history of this league have had. Does that impact
the other guy? Did that impact you when you saw
Peyton having the success he did in year two?
Speaker 8 (36:15):
Well in year two, yes, in year one, I mean
they went three and thirteen and he led the league
in interceptions. So you know, I was too busy thinking
about me and how how bad things had gotten for me.
You know, I didn't I didn't really make the comparison
until year You're exactly right. In year two. Let's say
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CJ goes out there and leads them to another division
title and and they get to the AFC Championship or
something like that, while Rece Young and the Panthers, you know,
are sitting in the fourth spot in their division, and
it's it's another tough year, you know. Yeah, there's no
way you cannot make that comparison, and everybody else is
going to. Yeah, it's just the way it is. It's
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what happens with expectation when your draft did one and two.
It's just the way it's always going to be. They're
going to be tied together with one another for the
rest of their lives. And I don't think for a
second that there are guys that are drafted in the
top two, top three, top fifteen spots that don't have
the maturity to deal with this stuff much better than
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someone like myself. It's just a different world we live in.
They're more prepared coming out of college. They have a
different kind of mindset. So I think he can he
can weather this storm. I think you look at the
Baker Mayfield situation onto his four team, where he gets
the extension, that's that's a difference that doesn't happen. That's
never happened in the past. When you moved on from
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another from your your top team, when you were a
top two pick, it was usually the beginning of the end.
There wasn't much other than you being a backup somewhere else.
So to see that, I think it's got to give
people a little bit of pause and understanding that you
can come back from this. You know, everything that happened
a year ago is gone. Like this is a Trevor
(37:59):
Lawrence scenario with Bryce Shong. Everything that was bad about
what went down his rookie year is gone, and something
new and beautiful can sprout from this.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
In Charlotte, Ryan, before we let you go, I think
you've got one of the great redemption stories in sports.
You've been very open and honest about where you were
and what you've been through and where you are now.
And I think one of the great things is just
to see you constantly paid forward try to help others.
Can you tell us a little bit about this manage
(38:29):
your institute where you're again paying it forward and using
your life experiences to help others.
Speaker 8 (38:37):
Oh, yeah, of course. I mean it's one of the
most world renowned psychiatric and substance use disorder facilities. I
got to know the CEO just by chance attending Peyton
Manning's induction into the Hall of Fame. Again, people ask me,
why would you go to that? Well, I wanted to.
I knew how difficult it was. I wanted to see
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the man go into the Hall of Fame. I mean,
there's three hundred and seventy you know plus Hall of
Famers of all time. But in doing so by going
to be a part of it, I just randomly ran
into this. This man who is the CEO of this
company in Houston, Texas called the Meninger Clinic, and they
were in the process of developing a relationship with the
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NFL PA our our union, our trust, where in fact
they have the opportunity to treat former NFL Knowing that
the NFL really has, you know, kind of a big
problem with me kind of speaking out and trying to
be involved in this, this gives me direct access. Every
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time I'm down there quarterly doing my work as an ambassador,
I probably encounter maybe somewhere between ten to fourteen former players.
And that's a real impact. That's a real impact for me,
A tangible one and purposeful, and you know, I I
just I don't ever want to see the type of
(40:04):
thing that happened to Vincent Jackson, you know, dying alone
in a hotel room, and that's uh, I know what
that feels like, and uh, it's the last thing I
want anybody who ever signed a contract, laced it up
and and wore that war that shield, uh to ever
be going through again. So that's that's why I do.
It has nothing to do with me, and everything to
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do with the with everybody else. And I'm just I'm
really grateful and and thankful that that I get to
live this life because of the one I've I've got
to experience.
Speaker 5 (40:35):
Well, Ryan, we uh, we appreciate you coming on with us,
and thank you for all you're doing to help others
and and your perspective on the quarterback situation certainly here
is invaluable. Ryan Leaf, former Charges quarterback, Thank you very much.
Speaker 8 (40:51):
Thank you, Ryan, no doubt you bet fellas have a
great night.
Speaker 5 (40:56):
I was Ryan Leaf some really insightful stuff there about
how you know things out of your control can impact
a player. All right, we'll be back after this here
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we got about a minute final preseason game Saturday against Buffalo.
What do you want to see?
Speaker 6 (41:57):
I want to see the starters play. I want to
play a series or another, or maybe a couple of
series because communication, consistency, confidence, communic all that stuff means
something and you get a chance to do that. I
don't want to learn that on my first time playing
a live game. So let's get it done.
Speaker 5 (42:15):
Okay, we'll see. The Bills have said they will not
play their starters. The Panthers have yet to say if
they will play the starters on the Carolina and it
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Bill and Johnson hit the idle line of scrimage, tweeting
and wing up.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
The goal line touchdown, the brandlak.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
The mentality that we're looking for was captured in that moment,
and I thought it was just so cool because that's
Panthers football, the standard. So it's like, regardless of where
you're at at any time with us, it's got to
feel that way. And so I was just so excited
to be able to point to that in front of
the team and go, that's what we look like right there.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
And now along with Eugene Robinson, Kears a niche shruff
with Panther Talk live from the Panthers broadcast facility at
Bank of America Stadium.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
And a shrop Eugene Robinson, Happy Monday to you. Jim
Zochy not with us today, He'll be back next week.
You heard Jim's call. Dylan Johnson at the Horn runs
it in for a touchdown. Do have some news Dylan
Johnson was waived today.
Speaker 6 (01:18):
Oat but huh, but what?
Speaker 5 (01:21):
I don't want to start things on a downer. I
want to start on the one word Dave Canalis has
been using over and over and over since he got
the job. That was finish and again preseason, make of
it what you may, but you saw the starters get
fired up. There are small moments that what happens on
(01:46):
the scoreboard is almost secondary to the feeling afterwards. And
I think that last play, hey play four quarters, finish
the game, the play before when Johnson kept his feet
moving and that she did punches it into the end zone,
broke a tackle on that touchdown at the end. Again,
it speaks to this bigger idea of what sort of
(02:06):
culture do you want to build, what sort of football
team do you want to put forward? What do you
want the identity of this team to be. We've talked
about that through this preseason, finding that identity. That was
a moment. Even though Dylan Johnson is no longer on
the team, that's the reality, that's the business side. But
that was I thought a moment to take away that
(02:28):
maybe adds a few spices into the pot when it
comes to team chemistry, galvanizing a roster, those intangible things,
those feel good things that we talk about this time
of year.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
I mean, first of all, you know, those are coaches decisions,
and they do what they do and they know a
lot better than I would know. Having said that, I
thought that what I saw from Dylan Johnson, the lateral movement,
able to hit the ball on the outside, stetharmer man,
get up the football field, break tackles. I thought that
(03:01):
was a winning characteristic. You want to be able to
see that this is what the offense is gonna look like.
I saw some double team blocks in there and moving
off to the linebackers. I'm like, okay, I've seen some
things where we'll go, yeah, you can, you can definitely
build on. And I thought basically it was embodied in
(03:21):
Dylan Johnson's play. Uh so, but you know, I mean
preface that once again, coaches know a lot more than
I know. You know, I'm just a puning on on
the air, going, hey, what what I think? They know
what team chemistry, they know what they're looking for. They
know if they already have the same Dylan Johnson already
on the field already or somewhere on the bench. So
(03:41):
I'll leave it to coach Canals to do that. But
if I have to go say about characteristic and getting gritty,
I thought Dylan Johnson embodied.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
That, yeah again and he had the one touchdown that
the Panthers have scored in the two games. Some other
roster moves today that the Panthers made. They signed a
couple of corners, Chris Wilcox, Quandre Moseley. Willcox former BYU
cornerback Moseley, you know, kind of came up. He's bounced around.
He was with Dallas. Cornerback Willie Drew, who was with
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the team earlier this preseason, along with wide receiver Sam
Pinckney and running back Jaden Sheridan have all been signed.
Back Jake Lowton, the quarterback goes on ir as does
cornerback Anthony Brown. And then this is part of the
reality here. So Tavion Robinson the receiver waved injured and
Lamar Jackson waved injured. And again, when you're one of
(04:33):
these guys battling for spot fifty two, fifty three, fifty one,
you're on the periphery of that roster. Again, the reality
of the NFL, the business side of it. He can't
stay healthy and you're not available.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
And that's why it's so important in preseason if you're
in particularly how coach Canalis has had a preseason where
you have a lot of number twos and number three's
that are playing. You better shine. You got a very
limited time to go ahead and there and look good.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
Who's the guy who comes to mind, number forty on
the team, Derek Uh McLendon mclindon. Yeah, mclindon.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
He's made some plays.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
He's made some place, even when that the penalty that
happened on a plate that he almost like it looked
like it was a sack to me, I'm like, man,
it's still off the edge. When he's out there, he's
he's making a statement. That's what you need to do,
you know. And so you know, for these young guys
when you're on the field, man, you better shine because
guess what, you only get that limited time to go
(05:32):
ahead and make an impression, and not a good impression,
you're gonna be gone.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
One preseason game left Saturday at Buffalo. The Bills have
already said they're not playing their starters. We'll see what
the Panthers reveal later this week. I think the expectation is, uh,
if the starters play will probably be brief, if at all.
I'll say this, as you start to get through the
roster and go position group by position group. Quarterbacks, I
(05:59):
think you know who we're gonna see. It's gonna be Bryce,
It's gonna be Andy Dalton, running backs, Chewba Hubbard, Miles Sanders,
Raheem Black, Schear. They all look safe. That last spot.
Mike Boone because of his ability to play special teams most.
I think he's probably got the lego.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
He had a pretty good game in the very first
first game.
Speaker 7 (06:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
Uh, receiver in tight end gets interesting. You know we
We've said David Moore, a Mere Smith, Marsett, Terras Marshall,
those three vying for one maybe.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
Maybe one position. I'm telling you what. And I think
the guy who's the favorite too, because I see him
in the backfield and they're trying to get him on
the sweeps of stuff. I think it's Marsett Smith. Marsette
seems to be that guy. He had three catches last
week on this past game. But he's he's a ball
of energy and special teams wise, he can make things happen.
He can make things happen in a punt and he
(06:52):
can make things happen on a kickoff return team. So
he's that guy that I think becomes the favorite. There's
not enough uh fought to go around. It's not it's
so you gotta make you gotta make the mess of it.
And don't forget Marshall's a guy that's you know, we've
been waiting for you to blossom for a while. We've
been waiting for you to go ahead and have that
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coming out party, and you have not had it yet.
It's gonna be This is a new coaching staff. They
don't have the luxury all the time to wait or
for you to blossom. Go oh, is this what We're
gonna go ahead and see.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
They also don't have the investment. They didn't draft you exactly,
they don't have currency invested in you. And Terrace Marshall
has to prove it you got and he's got maybe
one game. And again, David Moore can play special teams
or here Smith Marsett plays on special teams. So marshall
situation is interesting because if he makes the team, let's
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say he's the sixth guy, it likely means they're pulling
a guy from another position group who can also help
on special teams. So he kind of needs that, I think,
to work in his favor to be on the fifty three.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
Yeah, I think he definitely has to be. It has specialty.
Hes becomes a premium that you gotta be that that guy.
But once again, I think that with the tight end
situation too, that's a big one. That's a.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
You know, so let me ask you this. You're gonna
go into the season. You got Tommy Trumble who's now healthy.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I like him.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
You got j T Sanders who's a rookie. Yep, Jordan
Matthews can help you as a pass catcher. In the
blocking game, Again, this guy's a converted wide receiver. He's
not remotely there as a blocker. I have to think
there is a fourth tight end they're taking who can
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fill the void somewhat left by Ian Thomas until Thomas
is healthy. And again you got the number one waiver priority.
It may be a guy who's not on the roster.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
And don't forget here what Jordan Matthew's you know, don't
think he's a converted receiver to tight end. That's currency
to me because guess what if I'm thinking of if
I'm coach Canalis that said, if I had to have
a guy to go up and line up on the
outside to go run a route, can I have this
tight end do that route? Absolutely? Yeah, So he becomes
really versatile in my opinion, as a guy that can
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who can play this, you know, as a z And
he's had a good camp and he hasn't any and
you said you've been watching him camp. He's had a
good camp. So I think it's a guy who's going
to be on the team. And I think he's a
guy that's going to be one of those number one,
number two guys starting for the team.
Speaker 7 (09:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
I look at tight end and I think once the
dust settles cut days August twenty seventh, the Panthers are
going to look at all the available tight ends. I
think at least one, potentially two depending on what happens
on Saturday.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
And what do you think about Trimble. I've always been
a fan of Trimble. I like I just like him.
I think there's something about him. But I think that
he may be near that bubble as well.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
I think Tommy Trumple's safe. Do you think he's saying,
I think Tommy Trimble said he offers blocking. You line
him up as an h back, you can. You can
put him in at full back if you need to.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
And don't forget we don't really have a fullback. How
tied it as a fullback.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Right, And and I think he's I think he's shown
you enough that he can be at the very least,
you know, a secondary tight end. I still watch him,
Eugene and and you know, I say this if you're
around Tommy Tremble, great kid, personally, good guy, easy to
root for, but you just get the sense there might
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be more there. I I've always thought with Tommy there's
there's more there.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
Tommy Tremble reminds me of He's kind of not like
he's Wesley Walls. Like the fact that he can catch
the ball.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
Wesley Walls was a late bloomer in his career too.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
Dude, he can catch, and I like the way he
runs routes. I've always liked. I've always liked the fact
that he's one of those guys that is underneath the
radar and he's really really good. I think he's very
very good. And so from that standpoint, I mean they
got some decisions to make no out about that, but
I hope that he finds himself on this team.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
How many catches do you think Wesley Walls had in
his first four pro seasons?
Speaker 6 (11:09):
First four pro seasons.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
You might as well go five. Now he was hurt
for a little bit there, first five seasons. Now playing
behind Brent Jones.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
You're playing behind Brent Jones, San Francis, San Francisco. I
will say if you almost average somewhere around twenty in
the first five, is less than one hundred.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
Less than one hundred. Yes, he had eleven catches in
his first.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
Five Wow, oh my goodness.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
I mean, look, goes to the Saints, has a couple
of productive seasons, and then you know, we all know
what he was in Carolina. He was one of the
more dependable tight ends in the league with the Panthers.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
And here it is that West Coast offense that ran
and also with the Panthers ran back in the day.
I mean the not rot that he would run. He
would absolutely you know what's coming, and he still can
fool you. And he's big old presents where you can
get his body to, you know, to really kind of
like box you out a little bit to say these.
I always thought he was one of those really good
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receivers that can just give you fits some problems that
ain't gonna block you to the hill, but he's gonna
catch that route.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
He didn't have his first Pro Bowl season till ninety
six with the Panthers at age thirty.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Yeah, now again, Tommy Tremble contract.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Dear.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
I still think there's more there, and to me, I
think he's safe. The offensive line I do find fascinating
because it's the most expensive offensive line in the NFL.
They've invent a lot of money on the interior with
Hunt and Lewis. We've talked about that. I'm not worried
about Corbett at center. I think he'll be fine. Obviously,
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we need Ikey Akwanu to have a bounce back season
play like somebody who has the pedigree of a top
six pick. Taylor Moten has been rock solid. A little
banged up in camp, but he's been rock solid at
right tackle for his Panthers career. The depth behind that
right Josh Niman was signed to be the swing tackle.
He's hurt Ricky Lee they like they liked them last year,
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but a project right is he going to be ready.
Chandler Zavalla again, somebody who was a developmental guy. He
was thrown into the fire way too early last year.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
I thought, I thought he was in the fire away
too early, and I thought because of that, I thought
his confidence started to wane. And I thought because of that, Uh,
he wasn't as productive as he could have been. Because
I really think he's a really productive slash guard, slash tackle.
I think he's really productive. But you know what confidence.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
So if you're looking at the depth up front, now,
Brady Christensen can play any position on the offensive line.
That's a luxury to me. That's a real strong six.
I mean, if that's your sixth guy, you're in good shape.
Cade mays he's got the shoulder injury. You get past six,
you get past the five starters and Brady Christensen.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
There's a lot of questions, there's a there's a lot
of questions here. It is what.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
How many guards did we use last fifteen?
Speaker 6 (14:02):
We use a whole bunch of them, and we had
to because of injury. I mean that was because that's
part for the course. We all knew that. But would
you think about moving Brady Christensen to tackle and swap
in this position with Equano and move him to the guard.
I'm just throwing that out there. And the reason why
I'm throwing that out there, I think Equano is a
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better guard than he is a tackling, and I think
that Brady Christensen can be a better tackle. And I
would say give him a little help. Put the back
on the side, move the tight end to that side
to go ahead and eat things, because I really believe
that Quanto's playing out a position.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Where are you putting Aquanta?
Speaker 6 (14:42):
Then though we put him at the guard.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Is he going to start off a Robert Hunt and
Damian Lewis so you hand it out nine figures in totality.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
To what I've always felt with Aquanto is that he wants.
I think he's a road grader. I think he's a
guy who will punch you in the mouth, like really
punch it off and move you off the line. I think,
you know, I get what we get with the money
and you and you're looking to fill those spots. But
I think he's playing out of position. I said the
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same thing about Ken Easiley. Ken easily had forty interceptions
in his career, knocking folks out, and I told him,
I said, you know what, you've played out of position.
You should be a free safety, not a strong safety.
He said, you're absolutely right. If I out of putting
free safety, I would have seventy interceptions that said, you're
right because they played you out of position, because you
because you can hit. You're that guy. I get it.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
If you move a Kwanu right now off of tackle,
he's going to the bench, and you're essentially saying a
guy you took with the sixth pick in the draft
two years ago is no longer a starter on this
football team. I don't see them giving up on Ikey
Aquan who just yet. I think he's gonna have every
opportunity to solidify himself at left tackle. I don't see it.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
And so, okay, let's let's let's let's play this thing out.
If we can play it out, what happens if he
doesn't sofi us so by himself at the tackle spot,
then what do you do the next year?
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Well, again, with him, he's going into year three after
the season, you have to decide in his fifty year
option exactly, so that decision then comes into play, right
and then and.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
Then you face with the same thing as like, oh, well,
maybe he wasn't that guy at the left tackle spot
that we thought he would be, and you hope that's
not the case, and you hope that's not the case.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
I still think the best case scenario for this team
is that Ikey is the left tackle anchor that he
was drafted to be and he gets better in past protection.
You know, we've said this, and we're coming up against
a break.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
There are certain.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Guys on this team who have room to grow and
there's that potential vacuum where they can fill more than
what we've seen. Ikey is high on that list. If
Ikey Aquanu can be what not just the Panthers, but
the rest of the NFL saw him as you got
a franchise left tackle. I don't think you punt on
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that after two seasons. Let's see what happens with a
new scheme, and let's see what happens with more established
guys around him.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
Yeah. I get that. Let's put some more established guys
and let me let me put the tight into that
side and running back to that side to help mut
and to get get him little bit comfortable.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
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Speaker 4 (18:05):
What I saw was just the finish of plays. And
I've been just really harping on the guys at Garrod,
harping on the guys to finish, finish.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
On the ball.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
So that part from a defensive standpoint, definitely saw another
step in the right direction. Offensively, we were cleaner pre snap.
That was a step forward. But we had holding calls,
We had some things that came up. There were some
really close calls. You know, an ineligible downfield, you know,
a block out side on a bubble screen. You know,
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so some really close calls and I felt like, you know,
some of those things really ten penalties on the day.
That's something we have to continue to hammer in practice
so we can get good, clean football and play the
way we did in the last drive. If we can
stay on schedule, if we can eliminate the penalties, we
can run the ball more, we can throw our boots
in our actions, and it allows us to really stay
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on schedule and get opportunities to score.
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Speaker 5 (19:02):
Back here on Panther Talk with Carolina head coach Dave Canalis.
Let's start with the end of the last preseason game.
What did it mean to score that touchdown?
Speaker 7 (19:12):
I love that you started with the end in mind.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
So the finish of it is what I was most
excited about. The touchdown was icing on the cake. We
just had enough time. Jake Luton got the guys organized.
It was about twenty two seconds to get it organized,
got the play call in, got everybody lined up, and
then and then Dylan kind of did the rest. You know,
there's an unblocked guy, but everyone the play before pushing
(19:37):
the pile, finishing all the way through the echo of
the whistle. The mentality that we're looking for was captured
in that moment, and I thought it was just so
cool because that's Panthers football, the standard. So it's like,
regardless of where you're at at any time with us,
it's got to feel that way. And so I was
just so excited to be able to point to that
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in front of the team and go, that's what we
look like right there, and that'll be a four minute drill.
We'll be ahead in some games, we'll be we'll finish
with running the ball the way we want to.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
How did that resonate amongst some of the starters and
the guys on the sideline, Oh.
Speaker 7 (20:14):
They were excited.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
I mean that, you know they I think that it
was cool for them to see just a heart, you know,
and to be proud of that's who we are. You know,
we're a finishing team. And that's the message to the
team is let our calling card be finished. We finish
everything we do. Finish plays, drives, quarters, has, finish games,
finish seasons with that mentality that we're going to be
there all the way as long as there's time on
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the clock we're going to be playing.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
What was your assessment of the offensive line?
Speaker 4 (20:41):
I thought, considering that Jack Anderson, Mason Brooks, Ike, Butker
Tyler Smith, Am I missing someone? Those are my four guys.
They got They got here within the last four days,
and really Ike and Mason the day before showing up,
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spending time with Kille our assistant O line coach, and
Dean Petsing our offensive quality control those guys. Just spending
extra time with those guys just to get them prepared
and comfortable so they can play fast and be physical
the way that they are.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
And I really.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Felt like one false start, one pre snap penalty, a
couple of things and calls lineman down the field, just
a little bit of confusion that happened a few times.
But all things considered, I mean, what a great day
for us to be able to evaluate guys, the skill
position guys and them just being available the whole time.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
What did you take away from a couple of the
kick returns the Jets had, As I know everyone's still
sort of adjusting to these new rules.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Yeah, just a couple of big cutback runs, just lost
leverage on a few spot could have been fatigue definitely,
just you know, assignment football. We lost leverage and they
had a pretty good returner back there, and he kind
of made the most of it, you know, and flipped
the field on us. So that was one punt and
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then one of them was kick returned. So the scheme
on the kickoff return, that's obviously something that we have
to look at and go, Okay, this is a vulnerability.
Speaker 7 (22:23):
For our cover unit.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
The punt return is classic just it was a guy
out a lot, out of a lane and someone not replacing,
you know, to contain and can keep leverage.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Describe what you saw out of Trevin Wallace and Claude
and Shareless.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Yeah, Trevin, I mean, I can't talk about Trevin and
Claude without talking about Pete Henson, our linebackers coach. He's
done a fantastic job with that room. It's a really good,
strong room. Guys that bring a lot of different things.
So Trevin, you know, he's kind of like that. The size,
the sideline, the sidelines, speed, you know, really a monster
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in there. And he's also the youngest, so he's bringing
him along and you see his confidence grow from one
week to the next. Shooting gaps now taking his chances
when he can, you know, Claude and really just settling in,
you know, second year in the system, settling in and
you can see his speed show up. You know, he
strikes guy. He's got a lot of he's compact, got
a lot of power, you know. And so I just
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I'd love seeing that tandem in there kind of working
talking through things, you know, and we still got a
wye to go though in terms of just playing the pass,
getting to our landmarks and being sticky in our zones.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
Who impressed you on the back end of that defense?
Speaker 6 (23:32):
Oh man?
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Uh, you know, I thought Alex Cook had another good day.
Demani Richardson made a made an interception, you know, on
an overthrow, was in the right place, you know, Jamie Robinson,
you know, just the flexibility of being able to play nickel,
play safety, you know, I thought, I thought Jamie is
really carrying the flag for the physicality and the aggression
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we're looking for finishing off tackles and you know, especially
when the when the ball carriers are wrapped up, being
able to just be that last stopping force to really
just make sure that play is done right there. So
love seeing him do that, and uh, you know, when
Alex is out there, it's just it's great. Just the
communication is working, it's so smooth and all that.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
Dave, with this last preseason game coming on Saturday, what
do the last couple of weeks before the regular season
look like from your end?
Speaker 4 (24:26):
You know, as we get closer to the to the
regular season, we have such precious opportunities and only a
few of them left, So it's really important that we
nail every single one of these practices. Is the biggest
practice of our life. And I say that a lot,
but it really is true, because this is the time
where we can push them. This is the time where
we can you know, stay paded up, get after it,
(24:47):
simulate game type of type of environment, you know, in
different situations where we can manage the situations and throw
it at them, give them a little heads up like
this is what to expect in these in these spots,
you know, because as you get closer the season, your
practice has become more like a regular season practice. But
while we still have this chance to be in camp mode,
(25:07):
to get our walkthroughs, to get all of our you know,
the longer practice periods, you know, and those things they're
really really critical and that's really what I've been focused on.
Speaker 6 (25:15):
Dave, Thank Thank you.
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Speaker 2 (26:04):
Hey Sean Robinson, joining us now and not your first
go around with a training camp. You've been around a
couple of different teams obviously with the Rams, the Giants and
so forth.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
How is this one compared to things throughout your career.
Speaker 9 (26:16):
It's been great, you know, come into a new experience,
a new team and creating new bonds and stuff. I
really enjoy this in the chemistry we've been building throughout
the spring until now and really formulating our team and
really identity.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
You know I'm forming that.
Speaker 9 (26:27):
You know it's early, still early in training camp, but
you know you still start forming those things right now.
So that's been great with the guys.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
How would you vocalize what that identity or what that
culture is for this current edition.
Speaker 9 (26:39):
Tough Nose, you know, playing with discipline, having an effort, read,
having our keys, knowing exactly how Simon's playing our roles,
doing it to the highest level, and just understanding the ball,
working as a team, having that chemistry, knowing what your
brother's got, what he's thinking, what he sees, and he's
just playing with the attitude.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
A lot of players here on the defensive side have
some connection to a Jarro Aberrow. What does he meant
to you and what if what about him makes a
coach that you want to play for?
Speaker 7 (27:04):
Coach E He's great.
Speaker 9 (27:05):
You know he's in on the rams with me and
he demands to have that eye discipline, that mental discipline,
that effort, that toughness about you, having that attitude and
really playing with a demeanor and that energy flying around,
having your boys back and everything, and so that's a
part of me and that's who I am.
Speaker 7 (27:25):
So I enjoyed doing that. Knobs, having a coach like that, got.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
A veteran group up there with Jadevian Clowney. You got
shy tittle obviously, Derek Brown. What do you like about
this group? Let's talk about that defensive line collectively. What
you're seeing out of them.
Speaker 9 (27:37):
It's great, you know, to be able to match our
games together and really work off one another and feel.
Speaker 7 (27:42):
And read things. It's been great.
Speaker 9 (27:43):
And having that that discipline, knowing that you know your
brother has your back, and knowing that he's gonna do
his job at the ultimate level.
Speaker 7 (27:49):
So it's been great.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Nobody compares with Aaron Donald, But what have you seen
out of Derek Brown. He's certainly he's one of the
best young defensive tackles in this league.
Speaker 9 (27:56):
Yeah, that's recking Ralph. He's been destroyed, destroying stuff, disruptive,
you know, just like Greg and Ralph, you know, just
getting that there, making plays play out to play and
just you know, getting everybody better and being on everyone
to do more, to be more. So it's been great
to have a young player like that, to have that
calber and that mindset, it's great.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Mantionon Aaron Donalds. He's a one to the maybe couple
generational player. What was it like about him as far
as playing with him that made him stand out?
Speaker 6 (28:24):
Like?
Speaker 2 (28:24):
What was he able to do that nobody else has
been able to do at that position?
Speaker 9 (28:27):
His work ethic, it was top than none, Like no one,
No one worked harder than that man I've ever seen
in my entire life.
Speaker 7 (28:34):
So that's what it was for him. He worked day in,
day out, didn't take any.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Days off, I would think so like Jjvian Clowney too,
because he's been with a couple of different teams. You
guys kind of quickly mesh out what it supposed because
of that.
Speaker 7 (28:45):
Yeah, definitely he's the same.
Speaker 9 (28:47):
You know, he's a great freak off the edge, sixty
six long arms, god's power, got quickness, explosive, his close offs,
closing speed, and he plays with physicality.
Speaker 7 (28:56):
It's great.
Speaker 9 (28:56):
Has an attitude, you know, commands commands a double team
or chip, you know, just a slide just to give
us a more opportunity inside to push your pocket. So
when he does get his chip and works off of
that he can still have an effective rush bile that's moving.
Speaker 7 (29:09):
And push in the pocket. All right.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Last thing, because you're new to the area, if you've
had a restaurant or life in Charlotte, how's how's it
hitting you so far here?
Speaker 7 (29:17):
Life's great.
Speaker 9 (29:18):
You know, I went to school Alabama, so coming back
to the South, it's been great. I enjoy this more
than California. You know, it's closer to me because I'm
from Texas. So restaurants, I say steak forty eight, I liked,
say forty eight, that was nice, and then probably Big
Daddy's up by Morrisville.
Speaker 7 (29:37):
I think that was nice.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
Can't go wrong with the other one of those. Hey show,
great to meet you, Thank you.
Speaker 7 (29:41):
Very nice to meet you. Good job.
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at Washington State, played with the then San Diego Chargers,
Ryan Leaf, Ryan, really appreciate you coming on a Niche
Shroff here with Eugene Robinson.
Speaker 8 (30:55):
Hey fella, sorry about last week. Got predisposed with h.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Girl.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
Hey with being a dad, we don't understand brothers. No
problem at all, No problem at all.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
Well, you know, Ryan, your story has been well documented,
but from your perspective, and you know, having the background
that you do and having the experience that you do,
when you kind of look in and see what Bryce
Young went through a year ago, fifteen different starting guards,
a coaching change, changing play callers twice during the season,
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and then, oh, by the way, you're a rookie quarterback
on top of all of that. What's that like when
you first enter this league, when you're dealing with so
many variables.
Speaker 8 (31:44):
I mean, it looked verbatim what my rookie season looked like.
You know, coach fired earlier than that after the sixth game,
two offensive callers up, intive line shifts, trading away my
best receiver before the season started. You know, there's just
there was a lot that went into it, and so
you know, and Bryce is certainly way more mature than
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I ever was, and he handled it, I thought, blowingly.
But it was it was as bad of a start
to a career in terms of things he couldn't control
around him as an organization, and you know that that
lands firmly in the owner's jurisdiction, right, I mean, he
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hired a new head coach, he put this thing in action,
they removed that quarterback coach and Josh mcdown, a guy
that thought was going to really be helpful to Bryce.
I mean, it just it couldn't have been more epic
of a failure on that aspect of things.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
Now.
Speaker 8 (32:41):
The biggest jump you make, though, is always between years
one and two. I missed the entire second season because
of a laborum tear in my shoulder. But he's going
to have to learn a new offense, he's going to
have to have a new head coach. He's gonna have
to hear the other voices in his in his in
his helmet. So it's going to be difficult for him.
But you know, you have a really good head coach
that comes over from Tampa Bay who's been a bit
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of a quarterback whisperer the last two UH stops he's
made in Seattle and in Tampa. So, uh, I'm excited
to see what it's about. I think Bryce is Is
is as talented as anybody. He clearly showed that he
wouldn't have been the number one overall pick if he wasn't.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (33:17):
He just needs some consistency and he needs to develop
some that confidence fact that he knows that he has.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
You know, Ryan coach Canalis wants Bryce to be able
to get the ball out on two point seven seconds.
I want to get your take on this. Uh, how
effectively can you read as you dropped back with the
to get to go through your progressions and make that
read within two point seven and when does your internal
clock click in and says, oh, I need to improvise
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because it's past that three that three second spot timing.
Speaker 8 (33:49):
Yeah, that's I mean, that's tough. That's that's a pre
set time frame. I feel like that could cause you
to to pre snap determine where you're going to row
to football, and that can always get you in trouble,
especially when they do some movement post snap. But yeah,
but bottom line is the ball's got to get out,
you know. And I was just up in East Lancing
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at Michigan State speaking to the team heading into this season,
and I went to practice and the biggest difference you
really see what the quarterback play from the college level
to the pro level really is the amount of time
they sit in the pocket. They know they have more
time in the pocket in college, and when you get
to the league, you are just you can't figure that
out until it's really too late. As a rookie, you
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got to figure that out and decide where you're gonna
go with the football. And a lot of times that
means there's gonna be a lot of things with the
tight end developing a relationship with the tight end because
he's closer to the line of scrimmage. If he's closer
to you in terms of when that ball can get out,
and then you have to be able to predetermine when
you find and and when you find that that one
on one. Now, if they line up and zone and
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that's a difficult.
Speaker 7 (34:54):
Thing to do.
Speaker 8 (34:55):
When you get that one on one look and you
know where that wins, then you have to take it
to that You've got to go with that, and you
got to go and see if you can get a
win against those situations. And that's been all always been
the most difficult thing I think for young quarterbacks to
find the mismatch when you get that one on one
and take shots with it.
Speaker 6 (35:12):
So also les predicated also want to have a net
receiver too, because you've said that your receiver was taken
away from.
Speaker 8 (35:16):
You, so it is DJ Moore was, yeah, shipped out
of town, and you know, Adam Feeling was an incredible replacement.
Don't get me wrong. DJ Moore is just a guy
that is a difference maker and would have paid huge
dividends for him a year ago. I think to help
him along with the maturation process.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
Yeah, the other part of it, Ryan, and you dealt
with this, and I've seen your tweets. You joke about
it today and you've got a sense of humor about it.
But when you go one two in the draft and
the other guy's a quarterback, and in your case it
was Peyton Manning a spot before you, and I remember
before the draft, Ryan Lee for Peyton Manning, right, it
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was CJ. Stroud or Bryce Young and then c STU
has the type of rookie season that very few in
the history of this league have had. Does that impact
the other guy? Did that impact you when you saw
Peyton having the success he did in year two?
Speaker 8 (36:15):
Well in year two, yes, in year one, I mean
they went three and thirteen and he led the league
in interceptions. So you know, I was too busy thinking
about me and how how bad things had gotten for me.
You know, I didn't I didn't really make the comparison
until year You're exactly right. In year two. Let's say
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CJ goes out there and leads them to another division
title and and they get to the AFC Championship or
something like that, while Rece Young and the Panthers, you know,
are sitting in the fourth spot in their division, and
it's it's another tough year, you know. Yeah, there's no
way you cannot make that comparison, and everybody else is
going to. Yeah, it's just the way it is. It's
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what happens with expectation when your draft did one and two.
It's just the way it's always going to be. They're
going to be tied together with one another for the
rest of their lives. And I don't think for a
second that there are guys that are drafted in the
top two, top three, top fifteen spots that don't have
the maturity to deal with this stuff much better than
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someone like myself. It's just a different world we live in.
They're more prepared coming out of college. They have a
different kind of mindset. So I think he can he
can weather this storm. I think you look at the
Baker Mayfield situation onto his four team, where he gets
the extension, that's that's a difference that doesn't happen. That's
never happened in the past. When you moved on from
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another from your your top team, when you were a
top two pick, it was usually the beginning of the end.
There wasn't much other than you being a backup somewhere else.
So to see that, I think it's got to give
people a little bit of pause and understanding that you
can come back from this. You know, everything that happened
a year ago is gone. Like this is a Trevor
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Lawrence scenario with Bryce Shong. Everything that was bad about
what went down his rookie year is gone, and something
new and beautiful can sprout from this.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
In Charlotte, Ryan, before we let you go, I think
you've got one of the great redemption stories in sports.
You've been very open and honest about where you were
and what you've been through and where you are now.
And I think one of the great things is just
to see you constantly paid forward try to help others.
Can you tell us a little bit about this manage
(38:29):
your institute where you're again paying it forward and using
your life experiences to help others.
Speaker 8 (38:37):
Oh, yeah, of course. I mean it's one of the
most world renowned psychiatric and substance use disorder facilities. I
got to know the CEO just by chance attending Peyton
Manning's induction into the Hall of Fame. Again, people ask me,
why would you go to that? Well, I wanted to.
I knew how difficult it was. I wanted to see
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the man go into the Hall of Fame. I mean,
there's three hundred and seventy you know plus Hall of
Famers of all time. But in doing so by going
to be a part of it, I just randomly ran
into this. This man who is the CEO of this
company in Houston, Texas called the Meninger Clinic, and they
were in the process of developing a relationship with the
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NFL PA our our union, our trust, where in fact
they have the opportunity to treat former NFL Knowing that
the NFL really has, you know, kind of a big
problem with me kind of speaking out and trying to
be involved in this, this gives me direct access. Every
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time I'm down there quarterly doing my work as an ambassador,
I probably encounter maybe somewhere between ten to fourteen former players.
And that's a real impact. That's a real impact for me,
A tangible one and purposeful, and you know, I I
just I don't ever want to see the type of
(40:04):
thing that happened to Vincent Jackson, you know, dying alone
in a hotel room, and that's uh, I know what
that feels like, and uh, it's the last thing I
want anybody who ever signed a contract, laced it up
and and wore that war that shield, uh to ever
be going through again. So that's that's why I do.
It has nothing to do with me, and everything to
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do with the with everybody else. And I'm just I'm
really grateful and and thankful that that I get to
live this life because of the one I've I've got
to experience.
Speaker 5 (40:35):
Well, Ryan, we uh, we appreciate you coming on with us,
and thank you for all you're doing to help others
and and your perspective on the quarterback situation certainly here
is invaluable. Ryan Leaf, former Charges quarterback, Thank you very much.
Speaker 8 (40:51):
Thank you, Ryan, no doubt you bet fellas have a
great night.
Speaker 5 (40:56):
I was Ryan Leaf some really insightful stuff there about
how you know things out of your control can impact
a player. All right, we'll be back after this here
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What do you want to see?
Speaker 6 (41:57):
I want to see the starters play. I want to
play a series or another, or maybe a couple of
series because communication, consistency, confidence, communic all that stuff means
something and you get a chance to do that. I
don't want to learn that on my first time playing
a live game. So let's get it done.
Speaker 5 (42:15):
Okay, we'll see. The Bills have said they will not
play their starters. The Panthers have yet to say if
they will play the starters on the Carolina and it
remins to be seen. Team heads up Friday. The game
is on Saturday, then Labor Day weekend off per usual.
Before that, August twenty seventh is cut day of Note,
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May see some changes on the roster between this Saturday
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