August 27, 2024 • 41 mins
This week on Panther Talk, Anish Shroff, Jim Szoke and Eugene Robinson talk with Dave Canales, Eku Leota, Ikem Ekwonu and James Anderson about the final preseason game, roster cuts, the upcoming regular season opener and so much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
Really loved this group, you know, and really had a
chance to thank the guys. As we know we have
to make a bunch of tough decisions in the next
few days. But I've just been filled with gratitude over
the last couple of days for a group of men
that go out there with the vulnerability to say, I'm
gonna go out there, make some mistakes, do some things well,
get it fixed, come back and do it again. And
I just really saw no quit out of this group.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
And now, along with Jim Zoki and Eugene Robinson, here's
a Niche Shroff with Panther Talk live from the Panthers
broadcast facility at Bank of America Stereo.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
We are in the calm before the tempest, off the
process to figure out the roster, to see who's on
the fifty three, and then a week to get ready
for the season opener in New Orleans against the Saints.
The first game of the Dave Canalis era. The preseason
wrapped up on Saturday. It wrapped up with a w
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offense looked good. The first string played a series twelve
plays eighty five yards. Bryce Young to Jordan Matthews for
a touchdown. And now some tough decisions. Cut day is Tuesday.
You gotta get the rosters down to fifty three. But
let's start Jim with what we saw out of the offense,
especially the first string. They didn't play the first two games.
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They play on Saturday, only that one drive. I get it.
It was the twos. It was the threes for Buffalo.
But there was a rhythm of harmony, a flow that,
let's be honest, was missing most of last season.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
There was misdirection, there was rollouts, there were deep throws.
Speaker 6 (01:57):
There was a.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Run incorporated with the mix of the running the pass.
Bryce looked very comfortable and fluid. He did stuff with
his feet. It was not particularly safe even I mean
as far as that wasn't like two handoffs on a
screen pass. So eighty five yards, twelve plays, pays off
of the touchdown, converts on a fourth down along the way.
So yeah, a lot just to evaluate, you know, what
we're talking about. It's just a drive in the preseason,
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but it's all new as far as the coaching staff.
So to see that kind of fluidity to what they
did and to see it go throughout the game with
what Jack Plumber did later on, and we're just kind
of not a lot of penalties.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
They weren't tripping over themselves.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
To Eugene, the thought overall, the operations and the mechanics,
the things they did were I thought, you know, leaps
and bounds of what they were like what Jack Plumber
looked like two weeks ago versus what he looked like
now running the offense. I thought there were a lot
of things to like throughout the entire game.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
I loved it.
Speaker 7 (02:46):
I don't care if they're going against the number twos,
I don't care. This is about my team, and this
is about the Panthers as a unit, getting comfortable with
each other, knowing what someone likes doesn't like. If you
go to cut the route short, going to extend the route,
all that type of stuff. How how deep are you're
gonna take your drop back? I thought, uh a, Ki mcquano,
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I thought he'd played exceptionally well, and there was a
couple of plays, Like typically last year, I thought, when
the guy gets into the wide nine that's outside a
tackle a little bit wider, you would have a tennessee,
I gotta go reach that guy immediately because you think
he's gonna go get behind you and get to the quarterback.
But I saw a kickstep going back patiently waiting to engage,
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and I said, oh, that's different. That happened on the
play when Deandrey Johnson caught across the field that play
because of it kind of eki mcquano allowing to brush
to step up and make that throat and on a
testdown play almost the exact same thing. I said, dude,
this is great because remember last week I was like,
hey man, want you moving the guard?
Speaker 6 (03:52):
Well, I'm gonna amend that right now.
Speaker 7 (03:53):
All right, What I saw was I saw a patients
and really good feet.
Speaker 6 (03:57):
Now you only get that in live setting.
Speaker 7 (04:00):
You don't kind of in practice, but in live settings,
so I don't care if it's the number twos at all.
I thought they played extremely well.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Yeah, I mean we got to see Bryce Young with time.
There were plays where you do the game on radio,
I'm doing the game on TV right where you have
that clock in your head and you're kind of scarred
by last year, and there are plays.
Speaker 8 (04:23):
Where the pocket's still holding up. He has time. Wow,
now he can improvise.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Now he can move the pocket, and he kind of
showed you what he could do off script.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
And to be able to throw, like he said, some
of the deeper routes, you need that time and protection.
A lot of times we never saw the outcome of
what might have been a deeper route because the time
didn't exist to complete it from the pocket. And even
we went out of the pocket, it wasn't panicky. He's
got that agility, obviously, and we didn't see a lot
of it last year. I think they were protective in
some cases, but also sometimes it was flat out running
for your life as opposed to're running or not even running,
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just moving your feet to extend the play. And that's
what I saw, said that fourth down conversion to Deontay Johnson,
and then they got some really open receiver, you know,
Adam Thieling was really open. The touchdown pass to Matthews
was wide open. So obviously there were some things schematically
and what the receivers were doing in their routes too
that we're working as far as just what they were
throwing out there in terms of the pass routes, and
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they weren't like hiding stuff. I think it wasn't like
they were writting like page you know, ninety eight of
the playbook. But on their hand, it wasn't like page
one either.
Speaker 7 (05:23):
And I thought there was a star that started to emerge.
And you've been talking about this guy all preseason, Jordan Matthews.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
Dude, he reminds me of Jimmy.
Speaker 7 (05:35):
Graham Vernon Davis. He has an ability to go ahead
and take a mundane looking play that was on the
outside a little stick route, and turn it up and
look like, oh man, it's just about to do some work.
Speaker 9 (05:49):
Man.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
I'm like, I like him. I like that dude absolutely
a lot.
Speaker 7 (05:54):
And you've been bragging about him all preseason about how
well he looks in camp and this and that, and
kind of I think you need a tight end who
can catch the rock and who can make something happen,
who can who can push the change that when he
shuts up there, whether he's hand down in the line
or he's pushed out, that when a safety or a
linebacker goes on him, they go, oh, I need some help.
Speaker 6 (06:15):
And I'm telling you I saw this. I'm like, is
he that good?
Speaker 4 (06:20):
He brings a pass catching element to the position. He's
a converted wide receiver. Made that move a few years ago.
A lot of protein shakes involved. The blocking. I still
think that is not going to be his strong suit.
He's a natural wide receiver. He's had to add the weight.
He's still not there as a blocker, but I think
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he can help out in the passing game. You know,
the one thing that we're gonna see over the course
of the week is the Panthers have the number one
waiver claim.
Speaker 8 (06:50):
Basically through week three of the season, you're.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Gonna have cuts made, You're gonna have some upgrades on
the margins of the roster. But I was really looking
at this draft class, and Jim, you've been around this
thing for a long time. You know, the Panthers historically
have done pretty well with their number one pick. Yeah,
you got your Vernon Butler's in there, right, But you've
done pretty well with that first pick when they've been
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able to nail No. Third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh round picks.
And you're not gonna do it all in one draft.
But that's how you can build up a team. I
go back to OH one, right, your top three picks
were Dan Morgan, Chris Jenkins, and Steve Smith. Like that
on a bad team turned into core pieces and a
future Hall of Famer and All Pro and a really
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really solid linebacker.
Speaker 8 (07:38):
And Dan Morgan. Yeah, a team that won the best championship.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
So I'm looking at the top four picks this year
and you want to throw Shaw Smith wait in there.
You can throw him in there. But you take a
guy in around one, you expect him at minimum.
Speaker 8 (07:53):
Want to be a starter.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Okay, And when you saw what Cede Lamb got in
free agency, if xavierly Get can be number one receiver,
he's saving you a lot of money.
Speaker 8 (08:02):
I think Jonathan Brooks.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
We all feel if he's healthy, as a chance to
be special, top running back in his class, top running
back taken in the draft. Trevin Wallace looks like he
can be a starter for this team. Down the road,
he's playing behind two veterans. I would say, down down
the driveway, not even down the road. I mean he
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is fast, he's the real deal. I think he's the
real deal. And then your fourth round pick, you could
potentially have four starters with your first four picks. To me,
that gives Dan Morgan so much flexibility building this thing
short term and long term.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
And Sanders was you mentioned Brooks the top running back.
Sanders was viewed as the clear cut number two tight end.
Not only that he went in the fourth round, but
he was the second best at a position that we
need some transfusion out there too.
Speaker 8 (08:53):
And just what the.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
Doctor ordered in Trevin Wallace is having a sideline to sideline,
not only just he's not like a speed track guy.
I mean he hits hard, he wraps up and tackles.
So again for his for him being as early and
you know when we talked to the.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
Coaches, coach reminds me of a young shack.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Yeah, when we first got here, Coach A Barrow said, well,
he's like who's who's made the biggest jumps in spring
ball to now? Like when they first got there for
mini camp after the draft, and Trevin Wallace's name always
comes up among those first couple of names. So a
guy that he's the light's coming on quickly as far
as the Pro football IQ.
Speaker 7 (09:27):
And that's exactly what you want to happen. And also,
don't forget. When you come into the league, you're excited
and you're excited to show what you can go ahead
and do. And then you go, you know what, I
could see maybe some vacant season that linebacker spot. Maybe
I can go ahead and steal a spot. I could
be that guy. Why can't you be that guy? And
so I agree with you. There's a certain speed about
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him that he just gets to the ball, and when
he gets there, he smacks people. He makes something happen,
and so that's exactly what you have wanted to have.
And Dan Morgan said, and he repeated it to him again, Hey,
I gotta get some dogs, man, I gotta get some dogs.
So I think you've got one of them brothers that
who will come in here fifty Oh, you'll put a
hole in your body.
Speaker 8 (10:08):
Yeah, better watch out there again.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Yeah, there's a lot of upside where if you're filling
those holes with guys on rookie contracts, it allows you
then in the next offseason, as you continue to build
this thing up to go, then spend money where you
might need it. Right, there may be a need cornerback,
there may be a need at edge rusher that costs money.
(10:31):
Those guys get paid Ceedee Lamb again thirty six million dollars.
Speaker 8 (10:37):
Right.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
I know not all of it's guaranteed, but that's the
AAV of that deal. Four years, one hundred and thirty
six million dollars. You know you're in the market for
a T. Higgins or a branded AYUK. You pay up
if you have the guy, right, if you got him,
I mean that's huge. You've got a quarterback. If Bryce
is the guy on a rookie deal for this year
and three more, Ikey, a quantum to your point if.
Speaker 8 (11:01):
He Derek Brown's a great example. Derek Brown.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
His first two years, we didn't know he was not
that guy.
Speaker 8 (11:09):
Your three took off, Ikey, this is your three now,
you know.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
I remember you have bench one week and we would
go back down too far down the road. But that's
why it's so critical to draft well. You can nail
all seven rounds. That's why it's so important to build
your roster from within like that. We used to say
back in the day. You know, draft well, then plug
holes in free agency where you need something because you
have an injury or you don't have a starter at
a corner. The year we traded for Greg Olson, a
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tight end for a third round pick with Chicago.
Speaker 8 (11:34):
So it's like you make.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Moves like when you have to, but the core, the
you know, the seventy five percent of your roster really
should come from just your own harvesting the draft or
finding undrafted players and developing them.
Speaker 6 (11:45):
And that's what I think that Dan was gonna bring
that eye.
Speaker 7 (11:48):
I mean, because there's something about being a ball player
when you're looking at somebody else and it just kind
of resonates with you and go, man, there's something special
about that guy. And as being a linebacker, seeing Wallace run,
seeing Waller do his thing, I bet he.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
Was going, hold up this cat right here, can play?
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Just do it?
Speaker 6 (12:04):
This is a real deal. You know.
Speaker 7 (12:05):
Boy, if I put him at outside back or if
I put him at that little week back of spot,
I wonder how many plays can you make? I bet
you he's thinking that as opposed to someone who hasn't
maybe had it been in the helmet and had that perspective,
as Dan Morgan would have, you know, wouldn't see that.
Ozzie Newsoen was a great example of that, and with
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the Baltimore Ravens, he's been a great example of like
picking people.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
I mean, maybe as good as there's been in a
long time. Yes, I just think that when you look back,
there have been years where outside of the first.
Speaker 8 (12:38):
Round, you just haven't gotten much.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
And then when you're trying to plug those holes and
you're counting on next man up when there's injuries, the
good teams can count on their draft picks who know
their system and learn their system to be those guys.
The teams that are not relying on the draft in
that regards, now you're going to the way. Now you're
picking up somebody else's scraps again. Yeah, even to go
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back to last year's draft, right, obviously, you know we
know what Bryce has to do and you invested a
lot in him. But Mingo can Can Mingo be a
starting wide receiver second round pick? That's what you expect
him to do. If he can get there again, that
saves you a lot of money that you can use elsewhere.
Can Chandler Zavalla be a rotational piece at minimum where
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if there's an injury to one of your guards, you
feel good about plugging him in. Same with DJ Johnson.
Can DJ Johnson third round pick with upside middle of
year two?
Speaker 8 (13:37):
Year three?
Speaker 6 (13:37):
Can he be a starter for you?
Speaker 7 (13:39):
Can Mingo be that Deebo Samuel Samuels? Can he be
that type of guy? Because there's a certain presence about
Mingo and I'm like, oh, he'll run you over. He
got some dogs, nasty enough. But you don't see it
all the time. Is it something like, oh, it may
emerge this year. Is this something like that? I think so,
I really think so, because sometimes when you learn the system,
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it's very difficult to learn the system and not to
capitalize it, and then when you make mistakes to lose
your confidence.
Speaker 8 (14:10):
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Speaker 10 (14:24):
Stack receivers both to the right and the left, hopped
the running back to the right side of Jungers, setting
up to throw over the middle wide open touchdown as
the Panthers tight end the Veteran Jordan Matthews scorers on
the opening drive for Carolina.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yeah, I loved what came out of that. You know,
first drive was just the just the nature of our attack,
you know, the run game mixed in with moving the
pocket and then just seeing Bryce extend plays, you know,
taking some some clean completions, but then extending plays in
those critical situations, especially like on a fourth down. But
the carryover from camp, the emphasis on the second play
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after the first, playing guys like we're bonding with energy,
finding space and working for him really came alive and
I thought gave us a chance to get down there
to take advantage of the touchdown.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Panther Talk continues on the Carolina Panther's Radio network.
Speaker 9 (15:11):
Thanks so much here with coach Dave Canalis. Coach, I
know when you were going into the game of at Buffalo,
you were looking to get your starters out there, hoping
to see a good drive, particularly out of the offense.
I can imagine you must be completely pleased with what
they were able to do up there on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Oh, it was great, and the whole goal was to
just make sure we got them in game like environment.
But it goes back to the week leading up to it,
where we really structured that week of training camp to
mirror a game week, where we had a Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
a Saturday walkthrough, get on a plane, get your last
minute notes in the night before wake up early mental
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and body readiness and get out there and play a
one o'clock kickoff. So all those things were fantastic, and
then once we got onto the field, it was great.
The offense had a twelve play drive, the defense was
out there for a pretty you know, considerably long drive,
so they were able to kind of tap into their
conditioning a little bit and refocus and you know the
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outcomes of course, you know, offensively going down and scoring
a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
But it wasn't a.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Clean drive, you know, it was the operation was smooth,
but there's a lot of technique, a lot of things
that don't show up until you're actually in those real games,
and so such valuable film to kind of look at
coming off of the game.
Speaker 9 (16:29):
Bryce Young in particular, looked pretty good out there. Did
he show you like a little bit of everything you
were hoping to see from him?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah, you know, we he got to see a couple
of different situations. We got a third down, a fourth down,
we got into the red zone to operate that way.
So being able to do all those things everything short
of getting like a two minute drive or something like
that was really good to expose him to that and
for Bryce to kind of anticipate the calls that'll come
in from me to him and then to be able
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to talk about the series once he came out. So
it was great just to get through those, you know,
through the mechanics of how we you know, treat the
in between series conversations. And I think, you know, just
for Bryce, just like with everybody else, you know, there's
just there's little things. There's there's timing things that we
have to continue to work on working with these guys
playing in real game, you know, with Deontay and with
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Adam and with you know, Xavier leg gets New you know,
and Robert Hunt, and we didn't have Damian Lewis and
Austin Corbett out there, so there's still going to be
some more things that we're going to have to grow
through as we go into the season.
Speaker 9 (17:36):
Defense maybe the same thing. Didn't have some of your
key guys out there on Saturday, but like you said,
they were able to be out there for a sustained driver.
Are you happy with where they're at right now?
Speaker 8 (17:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I think I'm happy with the communication, the understanding of
the schemes and all that. You know, we had our
basic front, you know, minus Clowney out there to start off,
and then you know, so I think that getting some
running and hitting is just good for those guys, you know,
making the tackles taking him to the ground, which we
haven't done.
Speaker 11 (18:03):
You know.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
So a lot of the guys were excited about that opportunity,
and you know, Shack took advantage and was sidelined. The
sideline had a couple of nice hits. Josie, same thing,
Nick Scott, Jordan Fuller were showing up, you know, putting
their pads on people and getting guys down. So I
loved that that part happened. And again without a full
group on defense. You know, some of the things that
are going to come up as we go into the season.
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You know, we have to just continue to grow from
the film we have and take the next step.
Speaker 9 (18:30):
When you look at some of these guys that have
made so much progress here in the preseason, Jack Plumber
looks like almost a completely different quarterback from from when
he first got here to how he played on Saturday.
What have you seen out of his growth and progression
so far in this preseason.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I'm just so proud of Jack. You know, the way
that he came into the first game and to watch
his confidence build. I think the second week with the
Jets he built on just the operations, getting guys lined up,
getting smooth dar cadences with these centers. You know, we
had four offensive linemens show up within days of the
Jets game, you know, so to have a full week
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to practice with them, to go out to Buffalo and
to operate the way he did, to be able to
find receivers he's been throwing to, you know, all camp really,
because he's been in practicing in andy Stead, you know,
for a couple of weeks now. So I was just
really proud to see him comfortable and confident and aggressive
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and to see the type of play that we've seen
from him in his career. But for all of it
to settle for him in this game was fantastic.
Speaker 9 (19:31):
Can you use this sort of as a as a
building black of steppingstone the success you guys had up
there on Saturday as you head into the regular season.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
It's always good to win. It's just good for morale general,
just around the building morale. Just winning is awesome.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
The victory mondays are incredible, you know, but I think
that the guys understand this was still a preseason game,
and we still have a lot of room to improve
to hone our skills. And that's not specific to just us.
That's a lot of teams around this league that we
understand the challenges that are going to come towards us,
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and we also understand that there's going to be a
lot of moments where we're going to become us, where
we're going to find what our run game looks like,
find what our core pass game looks like, and really
hone in on those things. Defensively, our core calls, our coverages,
the different things that we do on that side of
it that fit our group. The goal is to get
the best eleven guys out there and do what they
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do best, and there's a learning curve that happens as
we go through the season. I think the guys are
just eager to get this thing going and happy that
it's coming closer.
Speaker 9 (20:39):
Maybe the toughest time of year. You're in the throes
of that right now, cut down day looming here in
just another day. Got to have a roster down to
fifty three and then of course get the practice squad going.
How tough are these dicions? I know you said you
were hoping to have tough decisions because that means you've
got a lot of good players to choose from. But
I know this has got to be tough, yeah, and you.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Know, specifically to the players that are right on the
cusp of making the team, those are definitely difficult decisions.
But I think if I, you know, take a step
back and look at the whole group, and you got
ninety plus guys, and you're with each other every day,
and we spend time together. We talk about family, we
talk about life outside of football, and of course all
the hard work that we put in. You know, when
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when a group does hard things together, that's where you
really start to bond, you know. And so you know,
my wife Lizzie and I about nine years ago when
I became the receivers coach for the Seattle Seahawks just
committed to, like, you know, if it doesn't hurt when
you go through those cuts and all that, you're not
doing it right.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
And I would.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Hope that our players felt seen, felt loved, felt respected
by this group of coaches, By myself included, just really
trying to connect with people knowing that we're not all
going to be here, but that doesn't give us an
excuse not to connect, not to go deeper. So yeah,
it's a hard day. And I could feel that kind
of going into the game last week with the Bills,
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you know, just the nights before, just knowing like this
is like our real last moment together before there's an
uncertainty that surrounds it all, but just to press into
it and just to approach it with gratitude and appreciation
for all the hard work and these men just making
themselves vulnerable day in and day out, allowing this to
coach them, you know, battling through bumps and bruises, going
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back out there to fix things we ask of them,
and so it's it's just such a great time. It's
one of my favorite parts but also one of the
hardest parts of this job.
Speaker 9 (22:29):
Obviously around the league, everybody is doing the same thing,
so that means it's gonna be a lot a lot
of guys out there available. Will you guys continue to
maybe do some roster tweaks as that happens where guys
are getting cut from other teams, or is the roster
is still gonna be in flux for a little while.
Speaker 8 (22:43):
Absolutely, we owe it to each other.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
We owe it to everybody in this organization and to
our fan base to scour the country to see if
we can challenge our roster and every single way that
we can. And we're committed to that. And while we
love the guys that have been here, the guys that
have helped us go through camp, we have to look
at everybody so that we can put the best, our
best foot forward as we go into the season.
Speaker 9 (23:05):
Wea You've got a lot, a lot of work to
do a coach, Thanks so much for taking the time today,
Thanks for having me. Panther Talk presented by Bosh power Tools,
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Speaker 5 (23:23):
All Right, Niky Akwanu, Panthers third year offensive tackle. She
had your rookie year, you had your sophomore year, if
you will, what's it like preparing for your third year
in the NFL with another coaching staff.
Speaker 11 (23:32):
Yeah, I'm also I feel like it's been great. You know,
I feel like the coaching staff, the new guys have
helped me a lot in my game, and you know,
I find to have a vision for me that's you know,
conduced to the division I have for myself.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
So it's definitely been good.
Speaker 11 (23:43):
Again some helpful those guys.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
And in particular your offensive line coach and change there
obviously as well.
Speaker 8 (23:49):
Joe Gilbert.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
What's it been like with with him coming in is
your offensive line coach?
Speaker 11 (23:52):
Yeah, he's just been preaching consistency for me, just making
sure I'm that rock on offensive line.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
I left tackle off.
Speaker 11 (23:57):
It's a crucial position, so just he's been helping me
out with my technique and just a little things about
the game.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
Yeah, he mentioned about you know, bringing not just you
but other players in and look at the tape together
and seeing where there's agreement about where you did good,
where things could be improved.
Speaker 6 (24:09):
Was it kind of like that, Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 11 (24:11):
You know when he came to Charlotte, when I met
with him up in his office and he had to
take ready for us and ready for me specifically as well,
and we kind of went down, you know, just some
of the little things about my game but they need
to be fixed. And I feel that really helped me
going into the offseason.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
A lot of new players, of course, especially at the
guard position, starting on your side on that on that
left side, with with Damian Lewis in there. What's what's
he meant to you so far?
Speaker 11 (24:31):
Yeah, it's been great. It's been great having you know,
just having d Lou out there, you know, just obvious
a little bit older than me, so having a little
bit more experience helps a lot as well, just some
of the little things he's seen playing in the game,
and I just feel like he's been great having him,
you know, next to me and in my ear a
little bit.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
You're known for your versatility and agility, things like that,
Robert Hunt. Those at kind of a different level as
far as a guard that can get around with that
size to be as agile as he is.
Speaker 11 (24:53):
Yes, aeste impressed. He moved really well for his size.
Obviously he's a big dude, so it's really cool to see. Obviously,
A it's nice, you know, being able to block with
a guy like that, for sure.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
Austin Corbett veteran has been it for a long time.
Seems like almost like a seamless transition him going to
guard to center, right.
Speaker 11 (25:07):
Yeah, one hundred percent. You know, I feel like he's
a guy who's always going to put the work in.
You know, he probably heard about him moving to center
a little earlier into some of us, and the second
he heard that, he went right to work and he
was also rehabbing a you know, an injury as well.
So just the fact that he was ready for us
to go it means a lot to us, obviously showing
his resilience.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
And Brady Christians you talk about you know, as you know,
left right side, it's hard, but he literally can play
all five positions.
Speaker 8 (25:30):
How amazing is that?
Speaker 5 (25:31):
Just for fans who don't understand for a big guy
that got to be able to move all along the
offensive line and play all five.
Speaker 11 (25:36):
I mean, yeah, something that fans might not know is
just how hard it is switching from left to right side,
but going from left to right, tackle, left to right
guard and center, like just all the different techniques you
have to learn, all the different IQ stuff you have
to learn because every position, you know, intelligence wise, is
you were quiable cars different things. So the fact that
he can play all that really speaks to the type
of type of character he has, type of player he is,
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and honestly is really impressive.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
And that's the mental part. You Jordan Gross, you should
tell us from a physical standpoint, he goes pick up
a knife and fork with your opposite hands, like eat
with your left hand if you're right handed.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
He goes, that's up.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
It's just a small example of how hard that can be.
Speaker 11 (26:08):
Yeah, one hundred percent. You can't even speak about how
difficult it is until you've done it, honestly, but it's impressive.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
I want to give you a shout out, a chance
to to your high school coach, Adam Hastings at Providence Day.
He coached our kids at ardri Kel High School. We
think the world of him as well. But what did
he mean to your development prior to going to n
C State.
Speaker 11 (26:24):
Yeah, he meant a lot for me, honestly. You know,
I was a little bit lost growing up, you know
when it came to like recruiting and stuff like that,
and just having him there, I feel like it really
just shaped my journey a lot.
Speaker 9 (26:34):
You know.
Speaker 11 (26:34):
I don't think on on what, honestly my genuine looked
like without him and coach more there in my ear,
and honestly, just he was there from me too when
I started slipping a little bit. Honestly, he was there
to lot me back in and tell me, like what
was that stake? And I feel like just having those
conversations with him definitely help with my journey and just
obviously where I wund up in my life. So definitely
a big set up to him and coach more. You know,
wish the best for him in Indian Land as well.
They're gonna be out there balling.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
So outside of for him, still coaching, doing a great
job in this area. If you have a great season,
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Speaker 8 (27:10):
I'm here with Panthers linebacker equal Leota. You grew up
in Ashville. What was your connection to the Panthers growing
up in Ashville?
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Just being in North Carolina. Uh, you know.
Speaker 12 (27:23):
This is the only team around really the ProTeam. So uh,
I just remember going to uh, you know, Panthers game
as when I was like nine maybe, but it was
very sur I do remember like seeing like Charles Johnson
coming off the ball.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
That's one vivid memory that I have.
Speaker 12 (27:42):
So where were you sitting, I'll send up in the nosebleeds.
So yeah, it was Uh, the concessions were too expensive,
so you know, we was making sandwiches and bringing in
the game.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
So but yeah, what was that moment like when you
sat on set your foot on the field as a
play after having that first memory of sitting up in
the nose pleats.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Oh, it was. It was very surreal.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
Just just be.
Speaker 12 (28:09):
In on the field and just it it comes full circle. Really,
it was just a moment that it was very beautiful
moment for me.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
So yeah, growing up, what did football mean in your family?
Speaker 12 (28:22):
It meant everything. It just it gave me a way
to get free education. Not only that, it was just
this is all I know, you know, is all I
knew growing up.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
It helped me stay out of trouble and whatnot.
Speaker 12 (28:40):
And uh, it just it just helped bring out the
best of me socially because I'm very introverted.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
But this football thing it helps you stand out.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
So yeah, two very different college experiences, Northwestern and Auburn.
What did you take away from each place?
Speaker 12 (28:59):
Oh, it was two very different places. Very like Northwestern
was you know, right next to Chicago, very high in
their academics and very cold. So that was one of
the things that I wanted to experience, like the code
and then coming to the SEC that was a whole
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different experience.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
It was definitely a much more the stands.
Speaker 12 (29:27):
You know that every game that the fan base was
there in the SEC. But Northwestern, you know, sometimes you know,
if we're playing Ohio State, it would just be Ohio
State fans at a home games.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
But yeah, when you came to the Panthers last year,
what did you learn about yourself in the first season?
Speaker 3 (29:46):
I learned be myself.
Speaker 12 (29:50):
And trust trust myself really and just really like, this
is just football.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
I try to make it more comp complicated than it really.
Speaker 12 (29:59):
Is sometimes, but once I just you know, tell myself,
this is just football. I've been doing this my whole life.
Everything starts to come together.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
So with the position that you play on the edge,
what's the best part of being in coach of Arrow's defense?
Speaker 12 (30:16):
Uh, just being able to be being able to roll
off the ball and just being able to play fast
and just having three big d tackles in the middle
just eating up the run and helps us play more freely.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
So, yeah, have you gotten any advice from a veteran
like gideveon Clowney?
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Every day, every day.
Speaker 12 (30:38):
I love I'm not only Clowney, but you know, justin
Houston was here last year burns. But just them bringing
these guys in, I'm it's very been a blessing, just
because you know, they've been doing this their whole life,
and just I'm picking their brains each and every day.
And Clowny's always giving me tips every day and has
(31:00):
helped me play more confident as well. Just knowing that,
you know, the first pick of the draft has been
you know, telling me that I've got it. You know,
it just helps me be more confident. Thank you, Yeah,
thank you.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
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Speaker 5 (31:23):
Look starts got running around, Stuart jump Overrah Tackler at
the ten, slows up, Lars his shoulder keeps running.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
No one will touch him.
Speaker 7 (31:31):
Jonathan Stewart House, Is that That's what I'm talking about?
Speaker 6 (31:34):
This flash Bostel, Bark, Stu.
Speaker 13 (31:38):
And the crew, Jay Stu Here, Stu and the crew
with my guy Jeremy Kelly. We got my man James
Anderson in the building, the one and only.
Speaker 6 (31:52):
Oh man.
Speaker 14 (31:52):
I must say, I must have did something good to
be part of the crew. What's up?
Speaker 13 (31:56):
Take us through two thousand and ten? Because one hundred
and four tackles one hundred and ten tackles. In twenty ten,
Jimmy Classon's first year, we went what two and fourteen?
Speaker 6 (32:08):
I think that was twenty ten.
Speaker 14 (32:10):
That was we went two and fourteen, But I want
to say that was the year that I broke the
French House record for tackles. I ended up with five
that year.
Speaker 13 (32:18):
Okay, one seventy five total and solo. It was like
what or so one ten? Yeah, and so talk about
the mindset through a down year as a team and
the individual success because we see it happen on a
lot of teams. You know what I'm saying, like like
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when you go home, like like, yeah, I had fifteen
tackles of that.
Speaker 14 (32:44):
But we lost, but we lost by forty.
Speaker 13 (32:47):
You know what I'm saying, Like, like, how do you
statally stay in it? Because you came and brought it
every single game clearly, Like how do you like, like
go back to twenty ten and give us what literally
took place in your week.
Speaker 14 (33:06):
I think we got to go back further than that.
My third season here, I was on the bubble going
coming to the end of training camp. It was a
question of whether I was gonna make the team or
that right, right, So having to perform the last couple
of preseason games, understanding that you're in a bubble with
that pressure, I think prepare me for that twenty ten season.
(33:29):
It made me realize that this is not college. This
is a job. You would get a job if you perform.
So regardless of what everybody else is doing, what the
score is, what's going on, you have to do your job.
And if you don't do your job, you're out of here.
Now we can go oh to sixteen, but if you
do your job, the likelihood of you retaining your job
(33:52):
is higher. Even though y'all suck, that's a team. Then
if you if you packed it up and say, you
know what, we suck, I ain't gonna play right, they
say the eye this guy don't lie.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Right.
Speaker 14 (34:02):
So every week those coaches watching that film and they
were grad to you on your performers regards to what
the score.
Speaker 13 (34:07):
Was, because I think that's something good for like a
lot of young guys to hear. You know, no matter
what your situation is right now, there's always something that
you can do about it, right, you know, you put
in the effort the things that you can control. You
control those things, and when your opportunity comes, it's your
job to shine up.
Speaker 8 (34:26):
You know what I'm saying, So kudos to you, man.
Speaker 13 (34:28):
I would just always remember like that season and I
always try to highlight like man, there was some good
things there and obviously one of your you know, that
season and your performance always strikes me as like, man,
how did he just.
Speaker 14 (34:41):
Stay in it like that? But it was hard, bro,
like you would you would as a defensive play youth
like hey man, we gave a touchdown, this game might
be over right, like you felt like that, But it's
not my chop to score points unless I get a
pick or something. Right, it's my job. If they run
the ball of it pass, I either pick it. I mean,
I can do my job. I can't control anything else.
(35:02):
I feel like a lot of players get into trouble
when they start worrying about things today, for they can't
control Hey bro, he didn't call a number. I can't
control with coach calls. I can't control the place. I
can't control the round adjustment according to what the defense
gives me. But I can't control my attitude and my
effort and what I do and make sure I do
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my job.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
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Speaker 4 (35:40):
Teams around the NFL starting to trim their rosters down
to fifty three. They've got until Tuesday afternoon to do so.
From the Panther standpoint, the hard decisions will come in
the defensive backfield at wide receiver, wide receiver, those are
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the two big ones. I think tight end is fluid
because Ian Thomas with his injury. I think Jordan Matthews
makes the team, and then you're probably hunting the waiver
wire to see who else is there, maybe a bigger
blocking type to hold the ford until Ian Thomas gets back.
Speaker 6 (36:17):
But Tremble, well, I think you're gonna take.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
Tremble, You're gonna take Sanders, And I think right now
you're taking Jordan Matthews exactly. You're probably gonna go get
one more guy until Ian Thomas is ready.
Speaker 7 (36:28):
Yeah, exactly. And then I think when I look at
the receiver department, I was looking at the numbers here.
You got to look at you got DeLand, you got Johnson,
and then I think is up for well, I think
Mingo's making Tea and Mingo.
Speaker 6 (36:40):
But then this is one.
Speaker 7 (36:41):
I think there's gonna be one spot, one and a
half spots, and there's a whole bunch of people vying
for that. And now the fact that Smith Marsett got hurt,
that throws another monkey rich into equation. And now you've
got maybe Marshall making the team.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
Yeah, but uh with again you assume you get black
cheer back. As far as a special teams component of
Amir Smith marsh set, but you have to look at
a special teams part of that in addition to receiver.
So does David Moore maybe have that opening because they
were using him to return some kicks. So think about
the functionality of the fifty three man. As far as
the special teams contribution, Terrace Marshall is an interesting one
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because again he's an NFL receiver. But when you don't
have the special teams component that you get down to
where if you're not a top three receiver, it makes
it more tough, I.
Speaker 7 (37:29):
Think, And that's why I like Smith marsh said. I
there's such an energy about him. There is a willingness
to go ahead whether it's kick off a part return
that he's about to go score, and we saw that
evidence last week. He looked like he's about to go
ahead of score every single time he got the ball
and so and now getting hurt that only allows another
guy to go ahead.
Speaker 6 (37:48):
But I don't see that guy.
Speaker 5 (37:49):
And we don't know the extent of the injury right exactly.
We don't know if it's a short term thing exactly,
so we're kind of in the dark as far as
his availability right now.
Speaker 7 (37:57):
But I don't see that guy in that receiving being
so greedy and so wanting to go ahead and be
that guy, to go ahead and be special teams person.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
David Moore, don't sleep on that name. He was with
Dave Canalis in Tampa, in Seattle, there's history and familiarity there.
He also has the ability to play special teams.
Speaker 8 (38:21):
Again.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Can Amir Smith Marsett help sure? Can Terrace Marshall potentially
help sure? But when you have a new staff and
you have a new offensive system and a new offensive.
Speaker 8 (38:32):
Scheme, they stick to what they do.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
I think that element of familiarity, especially when we're talking
about the very fringe of the roster.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
And another fact I throw it is with lee get.
I think we all think that the ceiling's very high
for him. But where is he right now? Right for
like the start of the regular season, whereas a David
Moore's got some experience, some time in the system versus
you know, he's a true freshman. If you'll say they
get is, you know there's gonna be some learning for him.
Speaker 6 (38:57):
I think it's there.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
But receivers can take a while to learn how to route, run,
all the things you need to be able to get done, blockdownfield,
all the things that you need a receiver to do.
Speaker 7 (39:05):
And you can't get frustrated too because it was a
pass play at this past game. He was running and
I thought the ball was thrown behind him a little bit.
And I don't want you to get frustrated because you like,
you're trying to shine and let everybody know that you're
that guy that gonna come in and change things. And
then you go the boss thrown and you think it's
took your fault, So you know you would have a
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little patience with that.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
Eugene, quickly, what do you think we do with cornerback?
JC is gonna lock down one side? You hope he
can stay healthy. Dan Jackson's hurt. They traded for Mike Jackson.
He's gonna make the team. Troy Hill, Shaw Smith, Wade,
there's your nickel. We're looking at Boodle Jamison or does
this come down to waiver wire?
Speaker 6 (39:46):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (39:47):
I think it comes out to maybe waiver wire. But
Jamison was a guy who I thought, oh, okay, he's no,
he's not bad, and then Boodoo has showed up a
little bit. One thing I would say about these young
guys here in the secondary is that they're not afraid
to hit. They're not afraid to come up and make attack.
Ibout Jamie Robinson, No, and I like him. They're not
afraid to come up and make a tackle. And that's
that boats well if you're looking for another special team guys.
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So I think those guys is up for grabs. Take
your pick, because it's gonna be predicated on that defensive front.
Speaker 5 (40:16):
I think you said, well, I just throw one more
name out of Rudy Ford because he's a veteran sleek
for a long time, because that's the kind of guy
you might get off the waiver wire, but he's already here.
That might be very much like well, he's already here.
Let's just not worry about one more safety or whatever.
Speaker 6 (40:28):
You plug him in.
Speaker 7 (40:29):
And any guy that you put on the practice squad,
it's a guy that's potentially gonna go ahead and fill
up your roster just in case somebody gets hurt.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
And Rudy Ford is somebody who they really value on
special teams as well, So all those things matter.
Speaker 8 (40:42):
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Really loved this group, you know, and really had a
chance to thank the guys. As we know we have
to make a bunch of tough decisions in the next
few days. But I've just been filled with gratitude over
the last couple of days for a group of men
that go out there with the vulnerability to say, I'm
gonna go out there, make some mistakes, do some things well,
get it fixed, come back and do it again. And
I just really saw no quit out of this group.
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Speaker 4 (00:53):
We are in the calm before the tempest, off the
process to figure out the roster, to see who's on
the fifty three, and then a week to get ready
for the season opener in New Orleans against the Saints.
The first game of the Dave Canalis era. The preseason
wrapped up on Saturday. It wrapped up with a w
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offense looked good. The first string played a series twelve
plays eighty five yards. Bryce Young to Jordan Matthews for
a touchdown. And now some tough decisions. Cut day is Tuesday.
You gotta get the rosters down to fifty three. But
let's start Jim with what we saw out of the offense,
especially the first string. They didn't play the first two games.
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They play on Saturday, only that one drive. I get it.
It was the twos. It was the threes for Buffalo.
But there was a rhythm of harmony, a flow that,
let's be honest, was missing most of last season.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
There was misdirection, there was rollouts, there were deep throws.
Speaker 6 (01:57):
There was a.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Run incorporated with the mix of the running the pass.
Bryce looked very comfortable and fluid. He did stuff with
his feet. It was not particularly safe even I mean
as far as that wasn't like two handoffs on a
screen pass. So eighty five yards, twelve plays, pays off
of the touchdown, converts on a fourth down along the way.
So yeah, a lot just to evaluate, you know, what
we're talking about. It's just a drive in the preseason,
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but it's all new as far as the coaching staff.
So to see that kind of fluidity to what they
did and to see it go throughout the game with
what Jack Plumber did later on, and we're just kind
of not a lot of penalties.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
They weren't tripping over themselves.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
To Eugene, the thought overall, the operations and the mechanics,
the things they did were I thought, you know, leaps
and bounds of what they were like what Jack Plumber
looked like two weeks ago versus what he looked like
now running the offense. I thought there were a lot
of things to like throughout the entire game.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
I loved it.
Speaker 7 (02:46):
I don't care if they're going against the number twos,
I don't care. This is about my team, and this
is about the Panthers as a unit, getting comfortable with
each other, knowing what someone likes doesn't like. If you
go to cut the route short, going to extend the route,
all that type of stuff. How how deep are you're
gonna take your drop back? I thought, uh a, Ki mcquano,
(03:08):
I thought he'd played exceptionally well, and there was a
couple of plays, Like typically last year, I thought, when
the guy gets into the wide nine that's outside a
tackle a little bit wider, you would have a tennessee,
I gotta go reach that guy immediately because you think
he's gonna go get behind you and get to the quarterback.
But I saw a kickstep going back patiently waiting to engage,
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and I said, oh, that's different. That happened on the
play when Deandrey Johnson caught across the field that play
because of it kind of eki mcquano allowing to brush
to step up and make that throat and on a
testdown play almost the exact same thing. I said, dude,
this is great because remember last week I was like,
hey man, want you moving the guard?
Speaker 6 (03:52):
Well, I'm gonna amend that right now.
Speaker 7 (03:53):
All right, What I saw was I saw a patients
and really good feet.
Speaker 6 (03:57):
Now you only get that in live setting.
Speaker 7 (04:00):
You don't kind of in practice, but in live settings,
so I don't care if it's the number twos at all.
I thought they played extremely well.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Yeah, I mean we got to see Bryce Young with time.
There were plays where you do the game on radio,
I'm doing the game on TV right where you have
that clock in your head and you're kind of scarred
by last year, and there are plays.
Speaker 8 (04:23):
Where the pocket's still holding up. He has time. Wow,
now he can improvise.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Now he can move the pocket, and he kind of
showed you what he could do off script.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
And to be able to throw, like he said, some
of the deeper routes, you need that time and protection.
A lot of times we never saw the outcome of
what might have been a deeper route because the time
didn't exist to complete it from the pocket. And even
we went out of the pocket, it wasn't panicky. He's
got that agility, obviously, and we didn't see a lot
of it last year. I think they were protective in
some cases, but also sometimes it was flat out running
for your life as opposed to're running or not even running,
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just moving your feet to extend the play. And that's
what I saw, said that fourth down conversion to Deontay Johnson,
and then they got some really open receiver, you know,
Adam Thieling was really open. The touchdown pass to Matthews
was wide open. So obviously there were some things schematically
and what the receivers were doing in their routes too
that we're working as far as just what they were
throwing out there in terms of the pass routes, and
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they weren't like hiding stuff. I think it wasn't like
they were writting like page you know, ninety eight of
the playbook. But on their hand, it wasn't like page
one either.
Speaker 7 (05:23):
And I thought there was a star that started to emerge.
And you've been talking about this guy all preseason, Jordan Matthews.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
Dude, he reminds me of Jimmy.
Speaker 7 (05:35):
Graham Vernon Davis. He has an ability to go ahead
and take a mundane looking play that was on the
outside a little stick route, and turn it up and
look like, oh man, it's just about to do some work.
Speaker 9 (05:49):
Man.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
I'm like, I like him. I like that dude absolutely
a lot.
Speaker 7 (05:54):
And you've been bragging about him all preseason about how
well he looks in camp and this and that, and
kind of I think you need a tight end who
can catch the rock and who can make something happen,
who can who can push the change that when he
shuts up there, whether he's hand down in the line
or he's pushed out, that when a safety or a
linebacker goes on him, they go, oh, I need some help.
Speaker 6 (06:15):
And I'm telling you I saw this. I'm like, is
he that good?
Speaker 4 (06:20):
He brings a pass catching element to the position. He's
a converted wide receiver. Made that move a few years ago.
A lot of protein shakes involved. The blocking. I still
think that is not going to be his strong suit.
He's a natural wide receiver. He's had to add the weight.
He's still not there as a blocker, but I think
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he can help out in the passing game. You know,
the one thing that we're gonna see over the course
of the week is the Panthers have the number one
waiver claim.
Speaker 8 (06:50):
Basically through week three of the season, you're.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Gonna have cuts made, You're gonna have some upgrades on
the margins of the roster. But I was really looking
at this draft class, and Jim, you've been around this
thing for a long time. You know, the Panthers historically
have done pretty well with their number one pick. Yeah,
you got your Vernon Butler's in there, right, But you've
done pretty well with that first pick when they've been
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able to nail No. Third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh round picks.
And you're not gonna do it all in one draft.
But that's how you can build up a team. I
go back to OH one, right, your top three picks
were Dan Morgan, Chris Jenkins, and Steve Smith. Like that
on a bad team turned into core pieces and a
future Hall of Famer and All Pro and a really
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really solid linebacker.
Speaker 8 (07:38):
And Dan Morgan. Yeah, a team that won the best championship.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
So I'm looking at the top four picks this year
and you want to throw Shaw Smith wait in there.
You can throw him in there. But you take a
guy in around one, you expect him at minimum.
Speaker 8 (07:53):
Want to be a starter.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Okay, And when you saw what Cede Lamb got in
free agency, if xavierly Get can be number one receiver,
he's saving you a lot of money.
Speaker 8 (08:02):
I think Jonathan Brooks.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
We all feel if he's healthy, as a chance to
be special, top running back in his class, top running
back taken in the draft. Trevin Wallace looks like he
can be a starter for this team. Down the road,
he's playing behind two veterans. I would say, down down
the driveway, not even down the road. I mean he
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is fast, he's the real deal. I think he's the
real deal. And then your fourth round pick, you could
potentially have four starters with your first four picks. To me,
that gives Dan Morgan so much flexibility building this thing
short term and long term.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
And Sanders was you mentioned Brooks the top running back.
Sanders was viewed as the clear cut number two tight end.
Not only that he went in the fourth round, but
he was the second best at a position that we
need some transfusion out there too.
Speaker 8 (08:53):
And just what the.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
Doctor ordered in Trevin Wallace is having a sideline to sideline,
not only just he's not like a speed track guy.
I mean he hits hard, he wraps up and tackles.
So again for his for him being as early and
you know when we talked to the.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
Coaches, coach reminds me of a young shack.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Yeah, when we first got here, Coach A Barrow said, well,
he's like who's who's made the biggest jumps in spring
ball to now? Like when they first got there for
mini camp after the draft, and Trevin Wallace's name always
comes up among those first couple of names. So a
guy that he's the light's coming on quickly as far
as the Pro football IQ.
Speaker 7 (09:27):
And that's exactly what you want to happen. And also,
don't forget. When you come into the league, you're excited
and you're excited to show what you can go ahead
and do. And then you go, you know what, I
could see maybe some vacant season that linebacker spot. Maybe
I can go ahead and steal a spot. I could
be that guy. Why can't you be that guy? And
so I agree with you. There's a certain speed about
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him that he just gets to the ball, and when
he gets there, he smacks people. He makes something happen,
and so that's exactly what you have wanted to have.
And Dan Morgan said, and he repeated it to him again, Hey,
I gotta get some dogs, man, I gotta get some dogs.
So I think you've got one of them brothers that
who will come in here fifty Oh, you'll put a
hole in your body.
Speaker 8 (10:08):
Yeah, better watch out there again.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Yeah, there's a lot of upside where if you're filling
those holes with guys on rookie contracts, it allows you
then in the next offseason, as you continue to build
this thing up to go, then spend money where you
might need it. Right, there may be a need cornerback,
there may be a need at edge rusher that costs money.
(10:31):
Those guys get paid Ceedee Lamb again thirty six million dollars.
Speaker 8 (10:37):
Right.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
I know not all of it's guaranteed, but that's the
AAV of that deal. Four years, one hundred and thirty
six million dollars. You know you're in the market for
a T. Higgins or a branded AYUK. You pay up
if you have the guy, right, if you got him,
I mean that's huge. You've got a quarterback. If Bryce
is the guy on a rookie deal for this year
and three more, Ikey, a quantum to your point if.
Speaker 8 (11:01):
He Derek Brown's a great example. Derek Brown.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
His first two years, we didn't know he was not
that guy.
Speaker 8 (11:09):
Your three took off, Ikey, this is your three now,
you know.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
I remember you have bench one week and we would
go back down too far down the road. But that's
why it's so critical to draft well. You can nail
all seven rounds. That's why it's so important to build
your roster from within like that. We used to say
back in the day. You know, draft well, then plug
holes in free agency where you need something because you
have an injury or you don't have a starter at
a corner. The year we traded for Greg Olson, a
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tight end for a third round pick with Chicago.
Speaker 8 (11:34):
So it's like you make.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Moves like when you have to, but the core, the
you know, the seventy five percent of your roster really
should come from just your own harvesting the draft or
finding undrafted players and developing them.
Speaker 6 (11:45):
And that's what I think that Dan was gonna bring
that eye.
Speaker 7 (11:48):
I mean, because there's something about being a ball player
when you're looking at somebody else and it just kind
of resonates with you and go, man, there's something special
about that guy. And as being a linebacker, seeing Wallace run,
seeing Waller do his thing, I bet he.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
Was going, hold up this cat right here, can play?
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Just do it?
Speaker 6 (12:04):
This is a real deal. You know.
Speaker 7 (12:05):
Boy, if I put him at outside back or if
I put him at that little week back of spot,
I wonder how many plays can you make? I bet
you he's thinking that as opposed to someone who hasn't
maybe had it been in the helmet and had that perspective,
as Dan Morgan would have, you know, wouldn't see that.
Ozzie Newsoen was a great example of that, and with
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the Baltimore Ravens, he's been a great example of like
picking people.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
I mean, maybe as good as there's been in a
long time. Yes, I just think that when you look back,
there have been years where outside of the first.
Speaker 8 (12:38):
Round, you just haven't gotten much.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
And then when you're trying to plug those holes and
you're counting on next man up when there's injuries, the
good teams can count on their draft picks who know
their system and learn their system to be those guys.
The teams that are not relying on the draft in
that regards, now you're going to the way. Now you're
picking up somebody else's scraps again. Yeah, even to go
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back to last year's draft, right, obviously, you know we
know what Bryce has to do and you invested a
lot in him. But Mingo can Can Mingo be a
starting wide receiver second round pick? That's what you expect
him to do. If he can get there again, that
saves you a lot of money that you can use elsewhere.
Can Chandler Zavalla be a rotational piece at minimum where
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if there's an injury to one of your guards, you
feel good about plugging him in. Same with DJ Johnson.
Can DJ Johnson third round pick with upside middle of
year two?
Speaker 8 (13:37):
Year three?
Speaker 6 (13:37):
Can he be a starter for you?
Speaker 7 (13:39):
Can Mingo be that Deebo Samuel Samuels? Can he be
that type of guy? Because there's a certain presence about
Mingo and I'm like, oh, he'll run you over. He
got some dogs, nasty enough. But you don't see it
all the time. Is it something like, oh, it may
emerge this year. Is this something like that? I think so,
I really think so, because sometimes when you learn the system,
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it's very difficult to learn the system and not to
capitalize it, and then when you make mistakes to lose
your confidence.
Speaker 8 (14:10):
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Speaker 1 (14:20):
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Speaker 10 (14:24):
Stack receivers both to the right and the left, hopped
the running back to the right side of Jungers, setting
up to throw over the middle wide open touchdown as
the Panthers tight end the Veteran Jordan Matthews scorers on
the opening drive for Carolina.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yeah, I loved what came out of that. You know,
first drive was just the just the nature of our attack,
you know, the run game mixed in with moving the
pocket and then just seeing Bryce extend plays, you know,
taking some some clean completions, but then extending plays in
those critical situations, especially like on a fourth down. But
the carryover from camp, the emphasis on the second play
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after the first, playing guys like we're bonding with energy,
finding space and working for him really came alive and
I thought gave us a chance to get down there
to take advantage of the touchdown.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Panther Talk continues on the Carolina Panther's Radio network.
Speaker 9 (15:11):
Thanks so much here with coach Dave Canalis. Coach, I
know when you were going into the game of at Buffalo,
you were looking to get your starters out there, hoping
to see a good drive, particularly out of the offense.
I can imagine you must be completely pleased with what
they were able to do up there on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Oh, it was great, and the whole goal was to
just make sure we got them in game like environment.
But it goes back to the week leading up to it,
where we really structured that week of training camp to
mirror a game week, where we had a Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
a Saturday walkthrough, get on a plane, get your last
minute notes in the night before wake up early mental
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and body readiness and get out there and play a
one o'clock kickoff. So all those things were fantastic, and
then once we got onto the field, it was great.
The offense had a twelve play drive, the defense was
out there for a pretty you know, considerably long drive,
so they were able to kind of tap into their
conditioning a little bit and refocus and you know the
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outcomes of course, you know, offensively going down and scoring
a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
But it wasn't a.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Clean drive, you know, it was the operation was smooth,
but there's a lot of technique, a lot of things
that don't show up until you're actually in those real games,
and so such valuable film to kind of look at
coming off of the game.
Speaker 9 (16:29):
Bryce Young in particular, looked pretty good out there. Did
he show you like a little bit of everything you
were hoping to see from him?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah, you know, we he got to see a couple
of different situations. We got a third down, a fourth down,
we got into the red zone to operate that way.
So being able to do all those things everything short
of getting like a two minute drive or something like
that was really good to expose him to that and
for Bryce to kind of anticipate the calls that'll come
in from me to him and then to be able
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to talk about the series once he came out. So
it was great just to get through those, you know,
through the mechanics of how we you know, treat the
in between series conversations. And I think, you know, just
for Bryce, just like with everybody else, you know, there's
just there's little things. There's there's timing things that we
have to continue to work on working with these guys
playing in real game, you know, with Deontay and with
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Adam and with you know, Xavier leg gets New you know,
and Robert Hunt, and we didn't have Damian Lewis and
Austin Corbett out there, so there's still going to be
some more things that we're going to have to grow
through as we go into the season.
Speaker 9 (17:36):
Defense maybe the same thing. Didn't have some of your
key guys out there on Saturday, but like you said,
they were able to be out there for a sustained driver.
Are you happy with where they're at right now?
Speaker 8 (17:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I think I'm happy with the communication, the understanding of
the schemes and all that. You know, we had our
basic front, you know, minus Clowney out there to start off,
and then you know, so I think that getting some
running and hitting is just good for those guys, you know,
making the tackles taking him to the ground, which we
haven't done.
Speaker 11 (18:03):
You know.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
So a lot of the guys were excited about that opportunity,
and you know, Shack took advantage and was sidelined. The
sideline had a couple of nice hits. Josie, same thing,
Nick Scott, Jordan Fuller were showing up, you know, putting
their pads on people and getting guys down. So I
loved that that part happened. And again without a full
group on defense. You know, some of the things that
are going to come up as we go into the season.
(18:25):
You know, we have to just continue to grow from
the film we have and take the next step.
Speaker 9 (18:30):
When you look at some of these guys that have
made so much progress here in the preseason, Jack Plumber
looks like almost a completely different quarterback from from when
he first got here to how he played on Saturday.
What have you seen out of his growth and progression
so far in this preseason.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I'm just so proud of Jack. You know, the way
that he came into the first game and to watch
his confidence build. I think the second week with the
Jets he built on just the operations, getting guys lined up,
getting smooth dar cadences with these centers. You know, we
had four offensive linemens show up within days of the
Jets game, you know, so to have a full week
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to practice with them, to go out to Buffalo and
to operate the way he did, to be able to
find receivers he's been throwing to, you know, all camp really,
because he's been in practicing in andy Stead, you know,
for a couple of weeks now. So I was just
really proud to see him comfortable and confident and aggressive
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and to see the type of play that we've seen
from him in his career. But for all of it
to settle for him in this game was fantastic.
Speaker 9 (19:31):
Can you use this sort of as a as a
building black of steppingstone the success you guys had up
there on Saturday as you head into the regular season.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
It's always good to win. It's just good for morale general,
just around the building morale. Just winning is awesome.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
The victory mondays are incredible, you know, but I think
that the guys understand this was still a preseason game,
and we still have a lot of room to improve
to hone our skills. And that's not specific to just us.
That's a lot of teams around this league that we
understand the challenges that are going to come towards us,
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and we also understand that there's going to be a
lot of moments where we're going to become us, where
we're going to find what our run game looks like,
find what our core pass game looks like, and really
hone in on those things. Defensively, our core calls, our coverages,
the different things that we do on that side of
it that fit our group. The goal is to get
the best eleven guys out there and do what they
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do best, and there's a learning curve that happens as
we go through the season. I think the guys are
just eager to get this thing going and happy that
it's coming closer.
Speaker 9 (20:39):
Maybe the toughest time of year. You're in the throes
of that right now, cut down day looming here in
just another day. Got to have a roster down to
fifty three and then of course get the practice squad going.
How tough are these dicions? I know you said you
were hoping to have tough decisions because that means you've
got a lot of good players to choose from. But
I know this has got to be tough, yeah, and you.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Know, specifically to the players that are right on the
cusp of making the team, those are definitely difficult decisions.
But I think if I, you know, take a step
back and look at the whole group, and you got
ninety plus guys, and you're with each other every day,
and we spend time together. We talk about family, we
talk about life outside of football, and of course all
the hard work that we put in. You know, when
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when a group does hard things together, that's where you
really start to bond, you know. And so you know,
my wife Lizzie and I about nine years ago when
I became the receivers coach for the Seattle Seahawks just
committed to, like, you know, if it doesn't hurt when
you go through those cuts and all that, you're not
doing it right.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
And I would.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Hope that our players felt seen, felt loved, felt respected
by this group of coaches, By myself included, just really
trying to connect with people knowing that we're not all
going to be here, but that doesn't give us an
excuse not to connect, not to go deeper. So yeah,
it's a hard day. And I could feel that kind
of going into the game last week with the Bills,
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you know, just the nights before, just knowing like this
is like our real last moment together before there's an
uncertainty that surrounds it all, but just to press into
it and just to approach it with gratitude and appreciation
for all the hard work and these men just making
themselves vulnerable day in and day out, allowing this to
coach them, you know, battling through bumps and bruises, going
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back out there to fix things we ask of them,
and so it's it's just such a great time. It's
one of my favorite parts but also one of the
hardest parts of this job.
Speaker 9 (22:29):
Obviously around the league, everybody is doing the same thing,
so that means it's gonna be a lot a lot
of guys out there available. Will you guys continue to
maybe do some roster tweaks as that happens where guys
are getting cut from other teams, or is the roster
is still gonna be in flux for a little while.
Speaker 8 (22:43):
Absolutely, we owe it to each other.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
We owe it to everybody in this organization and to
our fan base to scour the country to see if
we can challenge our roster and every single way that
we can. And we're committed to that. And while we
love the guys that have been here, the guys that
have helped us go through camp, we have to look
at everybody so that we can put the best, our
best foot forward as we go into the season.
Speaker 9 (23:05):
Wea You've got a lot, a lot of work to
do a coach, Thanks so much for taking the time today,
Thanks for having me. Panther Talk presented by Bosh power Tools,
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Speaker 1 (23:18):
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Speaker 5 (23:23):
All Right, Niky Akwanu, Panthers third year offensive tackle. She
had your rookie year, you had your sophomore year, if
you will, what's it like preparing for your third year
in the NFL with another coaching staff.
Speaker 11 (23:32):
Yeah, I'm also I feel like it's been great. You know,
I feel like the coaching staff, the new guys have
helped me a lot in my game, and you know,
I find to have a vision for me that's you know,
conduced to the division I have for myself.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
So it's definitely been good.
Speaker 11 (23:43):
Again some helpful those guys.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
And in particular your offensive line coach and change there
obviously as well.
Speaker 8 (23:49):
Joe Gilbert.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
What's it been like with with him coming in is
your offensive line coach?
Speaker 11 (23:52):
Yeah, he's just been preaching consistency for me, just making
sure I'm that rock on offensive line.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
I left tackle off.
Speaker 11 (23:57):
It's a crucial position, so just he's been helping me
out with my technique and just a little things about
the game.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
Yeah, he mentioned about you know, bringing not just you
but other players in and look at the tape together
and seeing where there's agreement about where you did good,
where things could be improved.
Speaker 6 (24:09):
Was it kind of like that, Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 11 (24:11):
You know when he came to Charlotte, when I met
with him up in his office and he had to
take ready for us and ready for me specifically as well,
and we kind of went down, you know, just some
of the little things about my game but they need
to be fixed. And I feel that really helped me
going into the offseason.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
A lot of new players, of course, especially at the
guard position, starting on your side on that on that
left side, with with Damian Lewis in there. What's what's
he meant to you so far?
Speaker 11 (24:31):
Yeah, it's been great. It's been great having you know,
just having d Lou out there, you know, just obvious
a little bit older than me, so having a little
bit more experience helps a lot as well, just some
of the little things he's seen playing in the game,
and I just feel like he's been great having him,
you know, next to me and in my ear a
little bit.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
You're known for your versatility and agility, things like that,
Robert Hunt. Those at kind of a different level as
far as a guard that can get around with that
size to be as agile as he is.
Speaker 11 (24:53):
Yes, aeste impressed. He moved really well for his size.
Obviously he's a big dude, so it's really cool to see. Obviously,
A it's nice, you know, being able to block with
a guy like that, for sure.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
Austin Corbett veteran has been it for a long time.
Seems like almost like a seamless transition him going to
guard to center, right.
Speaker 11 (25:07):
Yeah, one hundred percent. You know, I feel like he's
a guy who's always going to put the work in.
You know, he probably heard about him moving to center
a little earlier into some of us, and the second
he heard that, he went right to work and he
was also rehabbing a you know, an injury as well.
So just the fact that he was ready for us
to go it means a lot to us, obviously showing
his resilience.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
And Brady Christians you talk about you know, as you know,
left right side, it's hard, but he literally can play
all five positions.
Speaker 8 (25:30):
How amazing is that?
Speaker 5 (25:31):
Just for fans who don't understand for a big guy
that got to be able to move all along the
offensive line and play all five.
Speaker 11 (25:36):
I mean, yeah, something that fans might not know is
just how hard it is switching from left to right side,
but going from left to right, tackle, left to right
guard and center, like just all the different techniques you
have to learn, all the different IQ stuff you have
to learn because every position, you know, intelligence wise, is
you were quiable cars different things. So the fact that
he can play all that really speaks to the type
of type of character he has, type of player he is,
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and honestly is really impressive.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
And that's the mental part. You Jordan Gross, you should
tell us from a physical standpoint, he goes pick up
a knife and fork with your opposite hands, like eat
with your left hand if you're right handed.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
He goes, that's up.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
It's just a small example of how hard that can be.
Speaker 11 (26:08):
Yeah, one hundred percent. You can't even speak about how
difficult it is until you've done it, honestly, but it's impressive.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
I want to give you a shout out, a chance
to to your high school coach, Adam Hastings at Providence Day.
He coached our kids at ardri Kel High School. We
think the world of him as well. But what did
he mean to your development prior to going to n
C State.
Speaker 11 (26:24):
Yeah, he meant a lot for me, honestly. You know,
I was a little bit lost growing up, you know
when it came to like recruiting and stuff like that,
and just having him there, I feel like it really
just shaped my journey a lot.
Speaker 9 (26:34):
You know.
Speaker 11 (26:34):
I don't think on on what, honestly my genuine looked
like without him and coach more there in my ear,
and honestly, just he was there from me too when
I started slipping a little bit. Honestly, he was there
to lot me back in and tell me, like what
was that stake? And I feel like just having those
conversations with him definitely help with my journey and just
obviously where I wund up in my life. So definitely
a big set up to him and coach more. You know,
wish the best for him in Indian Land as well.
They're gonna be out there balling.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
So outside of for him, still coaching, doing a great
job in this area. If you have a great season,
Thank you, thank you, I appreciate. This is Panther Talk
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Speaker 8 (27:10):
I'm here with Panthers linebacker equal Leota. You grew up
in Ashville. What was your connection to the Panthers growing
up in Ashville?
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Just being in North Carolina. Uh, you know.
Speaker 12 (27:23):
This is the only team around really the ProTeam. So uh,
I just remember going to uh, you know, Panthers game
as when I was like nine maybe, but it was
very sur I do remember like seeing like Charles Johnson
coming off the ball.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
That's one vivid memory that I have.
Speaker 12 (27:42):
So where were you sitting, I'll send up in the nosebleeds.
So yeah, it was Uh, the concessions were too expensive,
so you know, we was making sandwiches and bringing in
the game.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
So but yeah, what was that moment like when you
sat on set your foot on the field as a
play after having that first memory of sitting up in
the nose pleats.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Oh, it was. It was very surreal.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
Just just be.
Speaker 12 (28:09):
In on the field and just it it comes full circle. Really,
it was just a moment that it was very beautiful
moment for me.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
So yeah, growing up, what did football mean in your family?
Speaker 12 (28:22):
It meant everything. It just it gave me a way
to get free education. Not only that, it was just
this is all I know, you know, is all I
knew growing up.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
It helped me stay out of trouble and whatnot.
Speaker 12 (28:40):
And uh, it just it just helped bring out the
best of me socially because I'm very introverted.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
But this football thing it helps you stand out.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
So yeah, two very different college experiences, Northwestern and Auburn.
What did you take away from each place?
Speaker 12 (28:59):
Oh, it was two very different places. Very like Northwestern
was you know, right next to Chicago, very high in
their academics and very cold. So that was one of
the things that I wanted to experience, like the code
and then coming to the SEC that was a whole
(29:19):
different experience.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
It was definitely a much more the stands.
Speaker 12 (29:27):
You know that every game that the fan base was
there in the SEC. But Northwestern, you know, sometimes you know,
if we're playing Ohio State, it would just be Ohio
State fans at a home games.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
But yeah, when you came to the Panthers last year,
what did you learn about yourself in the first season?
Speaker 3 (29:46):
I learned be myself.
Speaker 12 (29:50):
And trust trust myself really and just really like, this
is just football.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
I try to make it more comp complicated than it really.
Speaker 12 (29:59):
Is sometimes, but once I just you know, tell myself,
this is just football. I've been doing this my whole life.
Everything starts to come together.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
So with the position that you play on the edge,
what's the best part of being in coach of Arrow's defense?
Speaker 12 (30:16):
Uh, just being able to be being able to roll
off the ball and just being able to play fast
and just having three big d tackles in the middle
just eating up the run and helps us play more freely.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
So, yeah, have you gotten any advice from a veteran
like gideveon Clowney?
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Every day, every day.
Speaker 12 (30:38):
I love I'm not only Clowney, but you know, justin
Houston was here last year burns. But just them bringing
these guys in, I'm it's very been a blessing, just
because you know, they've been doing this their whole life,
and just I'm picking their brains each and every day.
And Clowny's always giving me tips every day and has
(31:00):
helped me play more confident as well. Just knowing that,
you know, the first pick of the draft has been
you know, telling me that I've got it. You know,
it just helps me be more confident. Thank you, Yeah,
thank you.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
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Speaker 5 (31:23):
Look starts got running around, Stuart jump Overrah Tackler at
the ten, slows up, Lars his shoulder keeps running.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
No one will touch him.
Speaker 7 (31:31):
Jonathan Stewart House, Is that That's what I'm talking about?
Speaker 6 (31:34):
This flash Bostel, Bark, Stu.
Speaker 13 (31:38):
And the crew, Jay Stu Here, Stu and the crew
with my guy Jeremy Kelly. We got my man James
Anderson in the building, the one and only.
Speaker 6 (31:52):
Oh man.
Speaker 14 (31:52):
I must say, I must have did something good to
be part of the crew. What's up?
Speaker 13 (31:56):
Take us through two thousand and ten? Because one hundred
and four tackles one hundred and ten tackles. In twenty ten,
Jimmy Classon's first year, we went what two and fourteen?
Speaker 6 (32:08):
I think that was twenty ten.
Speaker 14 (32:10):
That was we went two and fourteen, But I want
to say that was the year that I broke the
French House record for tackles. I ended up with five
that year.
Speaker 13 (32:18):
Okay, one seventy five total and solo. It was like
what or so one ten? Yeah, and so talk about
the mindset through a down year as a team and
the individual success because we see it happen on a
lot of teams. You know what I'm saying, like like
(32:40):
when you go home, like like, yeah, I had fifteen
tackles of that.
Speaker 14 (32:44):
But we lost, but we lost by forty.
Speaker 13 (32:47):
You know what I'm saying, Like, like, how do you
statally stay in it? Because you came and brought it
every single game clearly, Like how do you like, like
go back to twenty ten and give us what literally
took place in your week.
Speaker 14 (33:06):
I think we got to go back further than that.
My third season here, I was on the bubble going
coming to the end of training camp. It was a
question of whether I was gonna make the team or
that right, right, So having to perform the last couple
of preseason games, understanding that you're in a bubble with
that pressure, I think prepare me for that twenty ten season.
(33:29):
It made me realize that this is not college. This
is a job. You would get a job if you perform.
So regardless of what everybody else is doing, what the
score is, what's going on, you have to do your job.
And if you don't do your job, you're out of here.
Now we can go oh to sixteen, but if you
do your job, the likelihood of you retaining your job
(33:52):
is higher. Even though y'all suck, that's a team. Then
if you if you packed it up and say, you
know what, we suck, I ain't gonna play right, they
say the eye this guy don't lie.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Right.
Speaker 14 (34:02):
So every week those coaches watching that film and they
were grad to you on your performers regards to what
the score.
Speaker 13 (34:07):
Was, because I think that's something good for like a
lot of young guys to hear. You know, no matter
what your situation is right now, there's always something that
you can do about it, right, you know, you put
in the effort the things that you can control. You
control those things, and when your opportunity comes, it's your
job to shine up.
Speaker 8 (34:26):
You know what I'm saying, So kudos to you, man.
Speaker 13 (34:28):
I would just always remember like that season and I
always try to highlight like man, there was some good
things there and obviously one of your you know, that
season and your performance always strikes me as like, man,
how did he just.
Speaker 14 (34:41):
Stay in it like that? But it was hard, bro,
like you would you would as a defensive play youth
like hey man, we gave a touchdown, this game might
be over right, like you felt like that, But it's
not my chop to score points unless I get a
pick or something. Right, it's my job. If they run
the ball of it pass, I either pick it. I mean,
I can do my job. I can't control anything else.
(35:02):
I feel like a lot of players get into trouble
when they start worrying about things today, for they can't
control Hey bro, he didn't call a number. I can't
control with coach calls. I can't control the place. I
can't control the round adjustment according to what the defense
gives me. But I can't control my attitude and my
effort and what I do and make sure I do
(35:22):
my job.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
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Speaker 4 (35:40):
Teams around the NFL starting to trim their rosters down
to fifty three. They've got until Tuesday afternoon to do so.
From the Panther standpoint, the hard decisions will come in
the defensive backfield at wide receiver, wide receiver, those are
(36:01):
the two big ones. I think tight end is fluid
because Ian Thomas with his injury. I think Jordan Matthews
makes the team, and then you're probably hunting the waiver
wire to see who else is there, maybe a bigger
blocking type to hold the ford until Ian Thomas gets back.
Speaker 6 (36:17):
But Tremble, well, I think you're gonna take.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
Tremble, You're gonna take Sanders, And I think right now
you're taking Jordan Matthews exactly. You're probably gonna go get
one more guy until Ian Thomas is ready.
Speaker 7 (36:28):
Yeah, exactly. And then I think when I look at
the receiver department, I was looking at the numbers here.
You got to look at you got DeLand, you got Johnson,
and then I think is up for well, I think
Mingo's making Tea and Mingo.
Speaker 6 (36:40):
But then this is one.
Speaker 7 (36:41):
I think there's gonna be one spot, one and a
half spots, and there's a whole bunch of people vying
for that. And now the fact that Smith Marsett got hurt,
that throws another monkey rich into equation. And now you've
got maybe Marshall making the team.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
Yeah, but uh with again you assume you get black
cheer back. As far as a special teams component of
Amir Smith marsh set, but you have to look at
a special teams part of that in addition to receiver.
So does David Moore maybe have that opening because they
were using him to return some kicks. So think about
the functionality of the fifty three man. As far as
the special teams contribution, Terrace Marshall is an interesting one
(37:20):
because again he's an NFL receiver. But when you don't
have the special teams component that you get down to
where if you're not a top three receiver, it makes
it more tough, I.
Speaker 7 (37:29):
Think, And that's why I like Smith marsh said. I
there's such an energy about him. There is a willingness
to go ahead whether it's kick off a part return
that he's about to go score, and we saw that
evidence last week. He looked like he's about to go
ahead of score every single time he got the ball
and so and now getting hurt that only allows another
guy to go ahead.
Speaker 6 (37:48):
But I don't see that guy.
Speaker 5 (37:49):
And we don't know the extent of the injury right exactly.
We don't know if it's a short term thing exactly,
so we're kind of in the dark as far as
his availability right now.
Speaker 7 (37:57):
But I don't see that guy in that receiving being
so greedy and so wanting to go ahead and be
that guy, to go ahead and be special teams person.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
David Moore, don't sleep on that name. He was with
Dave Canalis in Tampa, in Seattle, there's history and familiarity there.
He also has the ability to play special teams.
Speaker 8 (38:21):
Again.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Can Amir Smith Marsett help sure? Can Terrace Marshall potentially
help sure? But when you have a new staff and
you have a new offensive system and a new offensive.
Speaker 8 (38:32):
Scheme, they stick to what they do.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
I think that element of familiarity, especially when we're talking
about the very fringe of the roster.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
And another fact I throw it is with lee get.
I think we all think that the ceiling's very high
for him. But where is he right now? Right for
like the start of the regular season, whereas a David
Moore's got some experience, some time in the system versus
you know, he's a true freshman. If you'll say they
get is, you know there's gonna be some learning for him.
Speaker 6 (38:57):
I think it's there.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
But receivers can take a while to learn how to route, run,
all the things you need to be able to get done, blockdownfield,
all the things that you need a receiver to do.
Speaker 7 (39:05):
And you can't get frustrated too because it was a
pass play at this past game. He was running and
I thought the ball was thrown behind him a little bit.
And I don't want you to get frustrated because you like,
you're trying to shine and let everybody know that you're
that guy that gonna come in and change things. And
then you go the boss thrown and you think it's
took your fault, So you know you would have a
(39:26):
little patience with that.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
Eugene, quickly, what do you think we do with cornerback?
JC is gonna lock down one side? You hope he
can stay healthy. Dan Jackson's hurt. They traded for Mike Jackson.
He's gonna make the team. Troy Hill, Shaw Smith, Wade,
there's your nickel. We're looking at Boodle Jamison or does
this come down to waiver wire?
Speaker 6 (39:46):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (39:47):
I think it comes out to maybe waiver wire. But
Jamison was a guy who I thought, oh, okay, he's no,
he's not bad, and then Boodoo has showed up a
little bit. One thing I would say about these young
guys here in the secondary is that they're not afraid
to hit. They're not afraid to come up and make attack.
Ibout Jamie Robinson, No, and I like him. They're not
afraid to come up and make a tackle. And that's
that boats well if you're looking for another special team guys.
(40:10):
So I think those guys is up for grabs. Take
your pick, because it's gonna be predicated on that defensive front.
Speaker 5 (40:16):
I think you said, well, I just throw one more
name out of Rudy Ford because he's a veteran sleek
for a long time, because that's the kind of guy
you might get off the waiver wire, but he's already here.
That might be very much like well, he's already here.
Let's just not worry about one more safety or whatever.
Speaker 6 (40:28):
You plug him in.
Speaker 7 (40:29):
And any guy that you put on the practice squad,
it's a guy that's potentially gonna go ahead and fill
up your roster just in case somebody gets hurt.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
And Rudy Ford is somebody who they really value on
special teams as well, So all those things matter.
Speaker 8 (40:42):
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