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November 11, 2024 • 42 mins
This week on Panther Talk, Anish and Eugene talk with Dave Canales, Jalen Coker, Mick Mixon, Tom Luginbill and Roger Goodell about the Panthers big win in Germany and so much more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The following is an exclusive presentation of the Carolina Panthers.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
In the National Football League's.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
This is Panther Talk presented by Bosh power Tools on
the Carolina Panthers Radio Network.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
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it for.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
The Panthers and Ot that's something that I hope that
we can leave, you know, hang our hat on, and
it's it's it's about all these games, you know, games
where the score was out of hand, and we just
continue to play hard and continue to finish because it's
a pride thing. It's about the guys playing for each other.
This is what we worked for all week. Let's finish,
finish the way we want to finish, and the guys
we're able to do that.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
And now, along with Eugene Robinson Kears a Niche Shruff
with Panther Talk live from the Panthers broadcast facility at
Bank of America Stereo.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
We are back state side and the Panthers brought home
a victory from Germany, back to back wins going into
the bye week. It is Monday, November eleventh, eleven eleven,
we head into Week eleven, the bye week, A salute
and thank you to all of our veterans. It is
Veterans Day, and so many moments within the game on Sunday,

(01:18):
Cuba Hubbard career high rushing yards, first game after the
contract extension, DJ Wanham's return and his ability to impact
the game, and the opposing quarterback Ashawn Robinson against his
former team, and Eddie Pinero finishing it off with the
game winning kick lifelong soccer fan game winner in ot
at the stadium where Bayern Munich plays. Let's bring in

(01:40):
the head coach Dave Kanalis, who had the best seat
in the house for all of it. And Dave, let's
just start with the atmosphere and being in Munich. Describe
what the last few days were like for you and
the team.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
Oh, it was electric. It was an amazing environment.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
We got to feel a little bit of what it
feels like on the pitch. The noise, the songs, the
constant energy kind of carried throughout. You know, we're in
a traditional American football game. You know there's crescendos and
different moments where this thing just stayed the whole time.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
And there was a little bit of Panther's influence.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
I'm not gonna lie, you know, when the Giants were
on offense, you know, and some critical third downs and
then there was some good noise out there. So we
had a little bit of a following out there, which
was really cool to be a part of. But the
trip itself, you know, just a lot of great moments
for the guys, just spending time with each other at
the hotel, going out to lunches and dinners, just getting

(02:36):
to know each other and really cementing what's becoming a team.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah, and we can start to see that unfold in
front of us. The one moment in the game when
you talk about the acoustics and the noise that had
us worried up in the booth. And I don't know
if you caught this, but sweet Caroline, when that played
a couple of minutes before the game ended, we all
looked at each other and oh, no, oh no, I
don't know if you have the same feeling on the sideline,

(03:01):
Hey can we hold this until after the game?

Speaker 5 (03:05):
Oh man?

Speaker 3 (03:06):
You know, for me, it's like, hey, let's make it
a special moment and remember it the right way. But
you know certainly we got that ball back, you know,
in ot and just making sure that we finished with
the ball doing the right thing.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
The whole time.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
I was just kind of locked into the next call,
trying to get us in a position to finish it off.

Speaker 6 (03:22):
All right, coach before we dove into the office, And
how wonderful you guys were in the defense. I thought
something that kind of went maybe unnoticed, but not to
you guys.

Speaker 7 (03:31):
The punt covers team.

Speaker 6 (03:33):
The way the guys cover downfield absolutely out standing, and
I want you to talk about that. And also Hecker
kicking that ball out of there to depin you back,
putting them back down to twenty one yard line when
they're kicking it from the five. I thought the covers
team played exceptionally.

Speaker 8 (03:49):
Am I wrong?

Speaker 4 (03:50):
Coach Geene, I'm so glad that you brought it up.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
You know, we talk about the offense and defense so much,
but give us a chance to talk about Lonnie Johnson,
Sam Franklin, Felipe Franks, John Radigan, Claude and cher List.
You know some guys that just show up every week
just playing physical ball, capping things off. These guys Sam
and Lannie are like such a challenge to deal with

(04:14):
as gunners.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
I mean, it's really when you look at at it,
if you look at.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
And excellent, you want to look for an excellent part
of our football team. It's our coverage units the way
Tracy Smith our coordinators put those guys in positions with
different formations to really accentuate those matchups.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
And those guys finishing physically at the ball.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah, and guys like Sam and Felipe Dave. I've noticed
they also have a knack for you know, again, trash
talking is an art. Call it what you will, but
they know how to kind of poke and prode the
other team a little bit, and it seems to give
a spark to the panther's sideline when those guys get animated.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Oh, I love it, you know, And I want them
to be smart about But these are big, imposing guys
and they're really good at what they do and they're
in people's faces, you know, and I want them to
toe the edge, you know, take it all the way
to the limits and be smart about it though, you know,
be smart about it. But it certainly is just a
part of the attitude, the toughness that we talk about
in the physical nature of the play and these guys
really exemplify that.

Speaker 6 (05:17):
I think they have some extra incentive with Smith Marsett
being back there for one.

Speaker 7 (05:21):
But let me talk about Cuba. I've been coach.

Speaker 6 (05:24):
I've been saying, hey, coach, I want you to run
the ball as much as much as you can. We
saw a master performance the other day about how you
run the ball.

Speaker 7 (05:34):
And it's not just Cuba. It's that offensive line.

Speaker 6 (05:37):
I don't know if they block better on the run
or the past, but they seem to be extremely dominant,
so I know it's not just Cuba. Can you talk
about the officeive line and how well they did with
the double team blocks, going off to the linebacker and
just pinning down the edge to get that sweep on
the outside.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Yeah, just talk about you know, starting inside out is
doing a great job stepping in, Brady popping out to tackle.
And then you got the two big goons inside. You
got dlu and Robert Hunt. And they love what they do.
They love their job.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
They love to just be physical and really just.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
Take the fight to the other team, whether it's in
the run game or the pass game. There were some
amazing finishes and Rob a little too excited on one
of Cuba's toss cracks where probably he could have had
the touchdown, creating you know block on it, but getting
Taylor Molten on the perimeter, you know, seeing you.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Get out exactly.

Speaker 8 (06:30):
It was.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
It was a lot of fun, you know, and and uh,
you know, some some really cool moments there, because that's
the style and attitude that we want to play football with.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, Daven And there were you know moments within the game.
I remember, you know, Cuba obviously knee pops out, pops
it right back in, he comes back, finishes the game.
Jadeveon Clowney gets banged up toward the end and we
see him limping onto the field and he wants to
be out there and wants to go and finish that game.
What does that tell you about how this team is

(07:01):
coming together? When you see that from your guys, especially
veterans and leaders, it.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Just matters to them. It matters to them personally. There's
a pride that they take. But then also as we
become a team, as we play for each other, there's
that little added peer pressure like I don't want to
let my boys down, and you can feel that, you
can feel guys getting themselves backed out there. You can
feel the accountability of the communication and the things that

(07:26):
they've been going through, and you know it matters to them.
And I couldn't ask for anything more from a group
that plays for each other, you know, and they've shown that,
you know, throughout the season, finishing together.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
And Dave to have DJ Wanham and Clowney on the
field together for the first time in a regular season game.
What did that do for the entire defense?

Speaker 4 (07:49):
It's great, you know.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
It It balances things out, It balances you know, how
they want to set the protection where they want to
help with their past protections in the run game, who
do you want to try to run at?

Speaker 4 (07:59):
You know? And you have good length that way.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
And then I think what you guys saw is you
saw Shy Tuttle, You saw Ashn Robinson, Lebrian Ray, Jonathan Harris.
You know you saw these guys, d Will they'll make
plays as we set edges on both sides and they
and all of a sudden it becomes this phone booth
football and those outside zone runs start to wind back
to those interior players and that's where you see, you know,

(08:23):
a Sean being able to finish and knock the ball
out because the ball comes back to you when you
set edges, you know. And and you see Josie and
you see you know, Trevin playing fast, and the safeties
in the corners even showing up capping off on hits,
you know. And and so we're starting to play that
team football, that team tackling that we know we can do.

Speaker 6 (08:40):
And I thought it was complimentary football, indeed, particularly for
the secondary. I was selling the niche before we went
on the air. I said, I think this is one
of the better performances of the secondary. I thought the
coverage was spot on. When they were in man and man,
they were right there next to the guy. But even
in the zone they close extremely Well, can you tell
me about what were you guys doing to compliment what

(09:00):
we saw up front?

Speaker 7 (09:02):
By DJ want him and also a clowney Inshall.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
Well, Eugene.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
You know, it just goes down to communication and knowing
the calls, knowing to own your leverage, squeezing formations properly
based on how they deploy.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
It, you know.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
And and that part is continuing to grow for us.
And then, like you said, when we get better pass
rush and our stunts are getting on the quarterback sooner
the ball comes out quicker and we're in phase, you know,
so the guys are able to cover within a reasonable
amount of time and make the plays that come to them.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Dave, what did the film tell you about Bryce's performance
this week?

Speaker 4 (09:37):
Confidence?

Speaker 3 (09:38):
Just growth, weekly growth, that's the whole you know, approach
for the team, but specifically for Bryce, just taking strides,
taking steps, finding ways to win. This is a guy
who's won a lot of football games in his career.
He knows how to do that. And then so then
it's just about taking the whole process in and just
getting that incremental growth. But you see his confidence, You

(09:59):
see the swag when he finishes off the twenty four
yard run, you know, and you know makes nice plays
down the field. You know, a guy that's just out
there having fun and just taking growth steps every week.

Speaker 7 (10:09):
Coach, Well, we still see this fifty.

Speaker 6 (10:13):
Run to pass ratio or well that kind of morph
into whatever what it needs to morph into as you
faced it for the opponents.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
Yeah, you're right, Eugene. It just depends on who we're playing.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
We want to stay as balanced as possible to try
to just make sure we take a little bit of
pressure off of it.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
But in certain situations, man, I want to be able
to run the ball.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
What we can, you know, but the past game, you know,
as we grow and as teams, as the protection looks
like the way it has looked, you know, and our
guys get open like there's a there's a path to
win games that way too. You know, we just have
to walk into those things as they come to us.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Dave, I got my list today. I got to bring
down the Christmas decorations and help clean the garage. So
for the bye week, what is on your household to
do lists?

Speaker 3 (11:02):
Getting backpacks ready, breakfast, doing the dishes, you know, a
lot of Lizzie and I just connecting over coffee, working
out together, you know, just you know, just kind of
taking a snapshot of each kid, you know, Ashby, Ben
b and Amaya and like where are they at today?
Just for myself, just kind of like who are these kids?

(11:23):
How are we talking to them? And what what season
are they in? You know, and just making sure that
we have a great chance to reconnect.

Speaker 6 (11:29):
Well, I'm not taking out decorations until after Thanksgiving. Well
put up decorations at the things can we gotta get
the Thanksgiving first?

Speaker 1 (11:35):
A niche yeah, I'm not gonna have time then, So
I got to bring down Dave. And you're a family man,
I know that, and you love your family and you
love your kids. How hard is it to do what
you just outlined when you are in the throes of
coaching and the day to day riggers of what being
an NFL head coach demands.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
It just requires a great woman, Lizzie right there keeping
me connected to the whole thing, you know, just being
able to keep up a temperature on the house, on
each kid, on our marriage, just making sure we find
those windows to connect. But I can't do this without her,
And so just you know, I look forward to these

(12:20):
moments to just get reconnected and all that. And for
my kids, they haven't known anything different. This is what
they've known. This is dad's job, this is this is
what he's done, you know. And and for the Carols
of the world and Tracy Smith whose dad was a coach,
they'll tell you the same things, like, we didn't know
any different, Dad was coaching all the time. So but
to find those windows to reconnect and compete for that,
you know, it's really important.

Speaker 6 (12:41):
Let me commend you on a great answer right there,
And a way to honor your wife. That was an
incredible answer to coach, no doubt.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
I appreciate you, Gene.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Dave. Well, we'll let you go and enjoy some time
off this week well earned, and we'll reconnect after the
bye week.

Speaker 4 (12:57):
Thanks guys, Thank you, coach.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Thank you Dave. Dave Canalis, head coach of the Carolina Panthers.

Speaker 7 (13:03):
Great answer, by the way, great answer, great answer.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
There is a poem that I came across on the
flight back from Germany. I'll read that in the last segment.
That'll be a tease, but if you want to look
it up, it's called the Oak Tree, and it reminded
me a little bit about this season, this team, and
with a new GM and he's new as the GM.

(13:27):
Dan Morgan had been the assistant GM, first year head coach,
first time head coach at this level in Dave Canalis,
just having the belief in your system and your process,
and when you're one and four and one in five,
people from the outside may say, why aren't you doing
this and why aren't you doing that? And the one

(13:49):
thing that the staff should be commended for is they
believed in their system, They believed in the process and
Over the last couple of games, You're starting to see
the foundation reveal itself. You're starting to see the clture,
the way this team fought through adversity the last couple
of weeks. Right at the end of the Saints game, yes,
the defense had to come up with three straight stops

(14:09):
against the Giants that looked like the game was in hand,
and then all of a sudden, the Giants get the ball,
and then Josie Jewell makes the play, and then the
Giants get the field goal to tie. They get the
ball first in overtime, first play Ashwan Robbinson, the fumble,
Eddie Pinero delivers with the kick. These feel like true
building blocks here and again there's another side of it.

(14:31):
I get it. The Saints struggling, the Giants struggling, I
get it. Panthers were struggling too, And your stack wins
when you can get them. There seems to be a
different feeling. And now I got a bye week to
get better, to get healthier. Schedule gets harder after the
bye week, but there's a lot to like from these
last couple of weeks.

Speaker 6 (14:51):
There's no doubt if you lose those two games, if
you lose against the Saints, and if you lose against
the Giants, and then what you're just saying is a
different conversation, is a different native. But when you win,
now the narrative is this man, you got something smoldering
underneath there, and that sounds and it looks good, and
we keep it, sticking to the process. And I think
you're absolutely right, because no one you know, you're always

(15:15):
as you know, you never play as bad as battle
as you think he played, or have played as as
great as you think he played. Some way always in between.
You're not a bad team. Somewhere always in between. So
we're not a bad team.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
And I think all of us wanted to see this
team continue to grow and get better, and you're starting
to see some of the pieces that could be a
part of this calculus down the road. Guys like Cokerki
and Demani Richardson didn't play a whole lot today with
Jordan or yesterday with Jordan Fuller back, but there's a
number of those guys that have revealed themselves. We got

(15:48):
a pack show for you. We have an interview with
Roger Goodell, with Mick Mixon, We'll have Christin Balboni with
Jalen Cocher as well, before Eugene and I come back
to wrap things up in a little bit. This is
Panther Too, presented by Bosh power Tools on the Carolina
Panthers Radio Network.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
This is Panther Talk presented by Bosh power Tools.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Young looking left steps up under pressure now floats one
back of the episode touchdown the first career touchdown for
the rookie tight end, Chitavian Sanders.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
You know, it was such a great couple of days,
you know, the challenges of the travel, but all of
us being together at the hotel, guys going out, having
lunch together, having dinners together, talking, you know, just becoming
a team.

Speaker 7 (16:34):
It was a gift.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
You know, it was a gift as we've.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
Been playing you know, NonStop Sundays, you know, just this
whole week for us to you know, come all the
way to Germany and really have our best Friday and
Saturday practices from a focus standpoint of communication, Like it's
cements things about our process, you know. So I was
really proud of the guys getting that done and everybody
who was involved with planning it.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Panther Talk continues on the Carolina Panthers Radio network.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Any Shrof here with NFL Commissioner Roger good Now we're
in Munich, so let's start there. What does an international
presence mean for the league.

Speaker 9 (17:06):
I think it's really important for us long term to
be an international sport. Every time we play a game,
every time we bring our product, people love it and
it's a signal to us that we need to do more.

Speaker 5 (17:19):
Our ownership is very supportive of it.

Speaker 9 (17:22):
They're all in on these international games and developing our
business beyond that, including on the amateur level with flag
football and tackle football, particularly young women's flag football.

Speaker 5 (17:34):
It's a big effort for us on a global basis.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah, speaking of flag football, the Panthers held a clinic
in Munich for flag football. What does that mean to you?

Speaker 9 (17:45):
Well, you just have to go over there and talk
to some of the kids, and particularly the young girls.
You know, when they get a chance to play and
participate and compete, you can just see how impactful it
is on them, strengthens them, gives them confidence, and I
think that's what we're trying to do, particularly with our

(18:06):
lead up to the twenty twenty eight Olympics and getting
young people playing the game and then competing at a
very high level in the Olympics.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
We mentioned the Olympics. Is that another reason why it's
so important for the NFL to be a part of
the growth of flag football.

Speaker 5 (18:20):
I think so.

Speaker 9 (18:20):
But we also just believe, you know, kids playing sports
is good for them, and I think the more they
can participate on different levels, and flag is a great
opportunity for young women to participate. As I said, I
think it has a tremendous impact on them.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
You talk a lot with the owners throughout the league,
and when you saw what the tempers and their involvement
was in the disaster relief after Hurricane Helen, how did
that speak to the league?

Speaker 9 (18:49):
And you well, listen, our hearts go out to all
those people who are just going through so much. I
was just down in the Georgia area and talking to
people and the impact that it's had on them.

Speaker 5 (19:00):
People being displaced.

Speaker 9 (19:02):
From their homes and damage to their homes and it's
just it's heartbreaking. But I think the NFL family has
stood up, along with our partners of Red Cross, to try.

Speaker 5 (19:12):
To be there, try to do our part and try
to lead the way in that, and we will be there.
We really that's what we need to do in these times.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
Panthers ownership has big plans for the stadium and Charlotte
as well. To see that renovations are coming to Bank
of America's stadium, how important is that?

Speaker 5 (19:31):
It's really important?

Speaker 9 (19:32):
You know, the stadium in Carolina, really it's set a
benchmark back almost twenty five years ago, and so you
look at that and you say, you know, it's time
to make sure that we continue to keep this at
the same level it was when he entered. And all
these stadiums are continuing to advance and progress and add

(19:53):
new features.

Speaker 5 (19:54):
And I know without a question that they'll do that.
David's focus on it, the city leaders or folks.

Speaker 9 (20:00):
And I think it'll bring a lot more events into
the community, which I think will be beneficial overall.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
And it also tells you it's not a young franchise anymore.
They've been around for thirty years. And when you see
somebody like Julius Pepper's first guy drafted by the Panthers
to get inducted into the Hall of Fame, we know
what it means for the player. What does that mean
for the franchise.

Speaker 9 (20:21):
I think it's really important for the franchise because to
your point, you don't feel new anymore. You know, you
have members in the Hall of Fame, and they have
a lot more coming in my view, into the Hall
of Fame. And we don't look at the Panthers that way.
We look at them as one of our very important franchise,
very important markets, and really I've played a very important

(20:43):
role in the league both under Jerry Richardson's tenure but
also David's picking up the mantle and he plays an
enormous role at the league level also, So we're we
couldn't be happier with that market and we want to
make sure it continues to be successful.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
Commissioner Goodell, let's bring it back full circle to Munich.
What is Germany and particularly this city represent in terms
of a potential attractive market for the NFL.

Speaker 9 (21:10):
It's incredible when you get an opportunity to experience this
and you've seen it during lead up to this game,
but when you hear the excitement and I think just
a passion for football in the stadium and their style,
it's really fun. And so there's a very strong fan
base of twenty million people here and growing quickly, and

(21:30):
these games help, so does our media cover, so.

Speaker 5 (21:33):
Do our partnerships. All of that is it needs to
be integrated.

Speaker 9 (21:37):
They're playing flag football in the schools here, so all
of that is helping us really develop this and make
sure that we're.

Speaker 5 (21:44):
Going to be a global sport soon.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
Commissioner Roger Goodell.

Speaker 5 (21:47):
Thank you, my pleasure. Great to be with you.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
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Speaker 2 (21:58):
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Speaker 1 (22:02):
Fake to tray seat. Jones's pass deflected into the air
had intercepted by Carolina. Jones takes the staff, here's the pressure,
here's the throw, pave the flat ed. Joseph Jule intercepts it.
The Panthers take it away. Jones out of the shotgun
on the delay, Tracy hitting the backfield, lost boat. The

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Panthers say.

Speaker 5 (22:25):
They haven't and they do.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
Oh, they're huge, right, And it's something that we preach
and talk about with our group, and and it all
stems from just being on the same page and being
in your in your in your correct position, and the
calls playing your leverage and the place come to you,
you know, and you're able to be stronger at the
point of attack, and the guys took advantage of that.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
This is Panther Talk on the Carolina Panthers Radio Network.

Speaker 10 (22:47):
All right, this week we talked with the voice of
the Panthers, Mick Mixon for seventeen years.

Speaker 5 (22:53):
Of course prior to that.

Speaker 10 (22:54):
With the tar Heels now enjoying retirement, we'll catch up
with what is Mick doing now as to continue here
on thirty Seasons of Panthers Football.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Thirty Seasons of Panther Football a celebration of the players, coaches,
and other key figures of contributed to the organizational success.

Speaker 10 (23:15):
Our old broadcast partner in Pale, Mick Mixon, joins us
from the estate up somewhere in the Burlington area, and
Mick is one of my heroes, not only in life
and career, but also in retirement. You, my friend, you
are one of the few people I know that is
settled into I won't say doing nothing, but doing nothing

(23:36):
work related.

Speaker 8 (23:37):
You're doing things you want to do.

Speaker 10 (23:38):
You're staying busy, of course, but from what I hear,
I mean there's nothing career associated with what you're doing
in your retirement. Congratulations, zoke.

Speaker 7 (23:46):
You can't see me.

Speaker 11 (23:47):
But I'm smiling so broadly right now, just to the
sound of your voice and all the memories. Man, we
had such a blast. Do we not work together for
man seventeen seasons? But there are so I thinking about
it as you were talking. The two things in life
that I care the least about right now. One is
how's my ex wife doing?

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Numbers? Number two it.

Speaker 8 (24:11):
Went sideways already.

Speaker 11 (24:15):
Number two is does anybody need to hire a bald
headed ectomorphic a near sighted retired sports announcer. I just
adore being retired, and I don't export life philosophies. I'm
not on social media. I don't urinate on every bush
and try to mark my territory and tell people what

(24:36):
they ought to be thinking or doing.

Speaker 5 (24:38):
It's not my style.

Speaker 11 (24:39):
But I will say this, you will not look back
to Zoke when your time comes. I mean, you're still
in the you're still in the sweet spot of your career,
and I'm so proud of your many successes. But when
you decide to do it, Man, so long as you're
doing it to get to something and not to get
away from something, you will flourish.

Speaker 10 (24:58):
I love the way you talk. I'm mostly doing it
because I still need the income.

Speaker 11 (25:02):
It doesn't take long when you're on a fixed income.
And I guess even when we were working, we were
on fixed incomes. But when you're on a fixed retirement income,
it does change the way you think. And I'm trying
not to become that curmudgeonally old man that at the
gas bunk houses two dollars an eighty dollars back in
by day we take twenty four cents a gallon. But

(25:23):
it does make you think about things. But enough about me.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
How you doing?

Speaker 8 (25:27):
No, this is about you. It's the whole point is.

Speaker 10 (25:28):
These podcasts are to catch up with people from from
our past. But thank you for asking. I'm doing fine,
and I appreciate you asking. But we want to hear
from you and catch up with you, and I promise
it'll be painless. This is not one of those tell
me about third down and four against the Arizona Cardinals
fifteen years ago, or keep it simple, Just tell folks,
you know why Burlington, why you're there?

Speaker 8 (25:46):
Obviously you love Charlotte.

Speaker 10 (25:48):
You you know, we're obviously with the Tar Hills Network
for many years up in the Chapel Hill area.

Speaker 8 (25:53):
Why is it?

Speaker 10 (25:53):
Why is for those who don't know why. Why is
Burlington home for you? And Dawn and the family, My.

Speaker 11 (25:59):
Shorty, my bride, my love, my lead singer, Donal Elizabeth
Thomas Mixon. She's from here and generally the woman wins
the battle of with whose family do you spend the holidays?
Where do you live in retirement and all that? So Zuke,
I've got we got a house here in Burlington behind

(26:19):
us Down's son. She had one child, Jonathan. He played
football safety at Western High School here. Jonathan and Natalie
were high school sweethearts. They're married. I got four grandkids,
all boys, So the testosterone factor around here is off
the chain. I mean, it is incredible. So part of well,

(26:41):
that's the answer to the question is why Alamance County.

Speaker 5 (26:44):
But seeing these grandkids.

Speaker 11 (26:45):
Grow up and watching them learn and do things, that's
that's kind of my super bowl at this stage of life.

Speaker 10 (26:54):
I do want to ask you, because you do enjoy
retirement and family and all of that, I would think
there's sometimes though, where you where you said you're smiling
in the memories and so forth, what are some of
the things, it could be general or specific, that that
you miss about the days of when you did have
to get up and go to work on a you know,
on a Sunday or during the week, or whatever the
case may be. What when you look back, what are

(27:14):
some of your favorite thoughts as far as some of
the things you did that you wouldn't mind doing once
or twice here and there if it happened to pop up.

Speaker 11 (27:23):
One of my favorite things was training camp. I loved
going to Camp Wafford, living in the dorm just I
mean where else, but with what we've tried to sort
of do for a living, where else are in what
other world can a older man like me or you

(27:46):
live in a college dorm for three weeks spend all
day watching football practice, hanging around with players, trying to
get to know their stories. So every once in a while,
when that that that distant drum beat of a coming
Panthers and starts to get a little louder, I think
about Camp Wafford and all the fun there, and then
a lot of it is you hear former players. They

(28:07):
retire and they'll miss the game, of course, but it's
mainly the locker room.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
It's the game of ben ball.

Speaker 11 (28:12):
That's snapping the guy next to you with a rat
tail when he gets out of shower, the guy that
has the locker room next to you, all the kind
of horsing around and things, and so it's nothing for
me to be on the you know, on the zero
turn or just tinkering around here and just stop for
a moment and just laugh out loud at some of
the things that you that you said and we wish

(28:36):
you hadn't, or where I did and we wish we hadn't,
and just I don't know, just just just kidding around
with each other and the personalities that we work with
in and out of the broadcast booth. You could fill
the medium sized book with without even trying.

Speaker 10 (28:49):
No, we said, we said enough dumb things through the
years that you shall have years of memories. So just
from all the dumb things I've said alone, so I
appreciate that they help to fill your upty spaces while
you're out there cutting the grass.

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Speaker 10 (29:27):
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Speaker 1 (29:37):
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How about that we're surviving in twenty twenty four, surviving.
Let's now talk about the Heisman race for real, because
this is as interesting as a Heisman race that we've
had in years.

Speaker 8 (29:53):
This kind of might be one of those years.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
I look in, I know you're not a big baseball guy,
but Andre Dawson one year won the the MVP in
the National League for a last place Cubs team. He
was that good and usually the MVP award, Right, it's
the best player on one of the best teams in
the country. Correct, the Heisman has kind of become best
quarterback on one of the best teams in the country.

(30:15):
But there's a couple of guys that I think we
got to throw in here. Let's start with the obvious one,
which is Colorado's Travis Hunter. And I know he's hurt,
He's doing things this game hasn't seen in a long
long time. Even when you go back to ninety seven
and Charles Woodson. Charles Woodson wasn't playing as many snaps
on offense.

Speaker 12 (30:32):
No, not even close. He moonlighted.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Right, You're playing one hundred snaps a game on both
sides of the ball, and you're considered a top draft
prospect and maybe the best at your position at two positions. Right,
even if Colorado is eight and four, seven and five,
at the end of the day, whatever it ends up being,
I'm wondering, like, what's the case against Travis Hunter in
this scenario.

Speaker 12 (30:56):
I'm totally with you, and I've looked at this a
lot ways, and I have a Heisman vote, so you know,
I'm always careful what you know, what I say publicly
in terms of leaning one way or the other. But
the one thing about this when I look at Travis
Hunter is I refer back to the language of the
Heisman Trophy trust in the sense that it says the

(31:19):
most outstanding. Okay, that term the most outstanding player to
me has to be defined by spectacular plays or outstanding plays.
And the thing about Travis Hunter is whether he's playing
offense or whether he's playing defense, he's not just out

(31:40):
there a niche. No, like the plays he's making are
game altering, game changing, and in some instances have been
game saving. Right. That's different than just playing one hundred
and fifty five snaps. That's different than being in the mix.
But you're right the same way. Ashton jen is doing

(32:00):
something that we haven't seen in a long, long, long time.
Travis Hunter is doing something that it's not even that
you don't see in a long, long long time. You
have to ask yourself, have you seen anybody do it?

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Ashton? Gents, I'm glad you went there. The Boise State
running back, not counting a potential conference championship and the
bowl game, which now counts for your season totals. It
didn't count for Barry Sanders, but it counts these days. Yeah,
this guy's got a legitimate chance, legitimate chance, and what
I'm about to say sounds absurd. He's got a legitimate

(32:35):
shot at three thousand rushing yards. Think about that. He
ran for two fifty nine against Wazu two sixty seven
of the season opener and two seventeen at Hawaii. Oh,
by the way, against Oregon twenty five for one nine
two three touchdowns. So to me, that that's kind of
the game where people can't say, well, who who have

(32:56):
you played.

Speaker 12 (32:57):
I'm looking at the residents, not just the rest to
the schedule. Who do they play on the schedule, right,
so San Jose State, Wyoming, all right, Oregon State and
then as you reference the Mountain West Championship, probably yeah,
probably probably so and barring injury. I think the thing

(33:20):
that's what's so remarkable about this is everybody is loading
up to the box and it doesn't matter like they
have people in the box that are not blocked. Like,
think about that, because BOYC doesn't have enough guys to
block him. That's how much people are committing to stop
this guy and it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
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Speaker 13 (34:15):
I am here now with Jalen Cooker, the rookie receiver
who is making a splash for the Panthers. Jayleen, thank
you for taking a few minutes.

Speaker 14 (34:24):
I appreciate it, of course, thank you for having me.

Speaker 13 (34:26):
So you signed as an undrafted free agent in May,
You're waived in August, and then re signed to the
practice squad. I want to know about September twenty fourth,
when you got the call that you were being elevated
to the fifty three man roster.

Speaker 14 (34:40):
Yeah, I mean, it was a It was a great call.
I bet you know you love getting receiving those calls,
so especially as an undrafted guy.

Speaker 5 (34:48):
You know, I guess you don't.

Speaker 14 (34:49):
You don't expect to be in that position, but you know,
I feel like my work on the practice squad, you know,
my extra time with the coaches, and my preparation, you know,
I felt prepared. Yeah, I mean it was just it
was a great experience and I was really happy to
get that call.

Speaker 8 (35:04):
Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (35:04):
And then are you calling?

Speaker 13 (35:06):
You're calling family, you're calling friends, Like, how does that?
What does that look like? Because I'll never have that.

Speaker 14 (35:11):
Moment, you never know.

Speaker 13 (35:13):
Yeah there's still.

Speaker 14 (35:14):
Time, but but yeah, no, I definitely call my mom
my dad. But you know, making the fifty three is
just one one piece of it. You know, you still
have so much more to you know, put out there
like it's it's an amazing honor, a great opportunity. But
you know, I didn't want to get too you know,
that's not the goal for me. You know, the goal
is to make plays on this big stage and then

(35:36):
continue to stay there. So amazing opportunity for me, though,
And I was so proud, and I definitely did tell
my family and share that with everyone for.

Speaker 13 (35:43):
Sure, spoken like a true pro because I would have
just been celebrate, like, you know what I mean, But
you're right, You're right, you have so so much more
to accomplish. Tell me about working with Andy Dalton and
Bryce Young? How's that been?

Speaker 5 (35:56):
It's been great?

Speaker 14 (35:58):
Bryce and Andy, I mean definitely two great guys to
have on the team. Andy, you know, being a you know,
amazing veteran, he's done amazing things on the mangles and
doing great stuff here. So to have him talk to
me and kind of coach me through some things when
I'm not quite where he wants me to be or
he wants me to be in a certain area, Like
just kind of having that repetition and having him on

(36:21):
the team is really really good. And then Bryce, you know,
I mean, honestly, really the same. Like I mean he's
he's a younger guy, but I mean the way he
carries himself and the way that he kind of tax
his training and his preparation and everything is just the same.
I mean, just as much of a veteran. And you know,
I ask him for things sometimes and he on the
sideline he brings me up. He'll say, good play, good job,

(36:41):
or here's where you're messed up, here's where we're looking
for you on this Like, you know, he's he's awesome.

Speaker 13 (36:46):
It seems like this group is is great. And I
want to ask you about the wide receiver room because
kind of like what you're saying about Andy and Bryce,
you guys have a mix of you got your veterans,
like your Adam feelens, and then you've got the young
guys like you like Excel Xavier League. Yet what is
that room?

Speaker 14 (37:01):
Like it's funny?

Speaker 13 (37:05):
Who's the funniest, who's the funniest?

Speaker 14 (37:06):
The funniest? Uh, that's a really really good question. We
have a lot of funny guys in the room. I
think x is pretty is pretty funny. He's probably the funniest.
But I mean, honestly, coach Moore might take the cake
on that one. He's a he's got a little bit
of jokes with him too.

Speaker 5 (37:21):
But uh, but no, the room's great.

Speaker 14 (37:23):
I mean I feel like just kind of having that
like it's serious, but then it's not so serious to
where you can't be yourself and you can't express how
you feel. So I feel like that's such a great
thing to have in a room. You don't want to
be afraid to say something, you know, you always want
to feel like your your voice is heard, and I
feel like we do a great job of that. They're
not like the guys that you can't ask questions or
they're not helping the rookies. You know. So everyone in

(37:46):
the room is such a you know, such a great person,
a good character person, and you know they're great football players,
which you know just makes everyone else better.

Speaker 13 (37:54):
You were someone who I can already tell just takes
everything in stride. Like I said, all of those moments,
these first for you that are happening. If it were me,
I would just be I don't know, I'd be over
the moon and you're like, nope, I'm going to the
next thing. I have bigger goals that I want to accomplish.
Jalen thank you so much for the time. I appreciate it.

Speaker 14 (38:11):
Thank you, I appreciate it.

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Tools An A. Sharp Eugene Robinson. Eugene, I came across
this poem on the long plane ride back from Munich,
and I will share because I think you might be
able to find meaning in it if you're a Panther fan,
maybe in some other way.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
It's called the Mighty Oak Tree. It's a quick one,
a mighty wind, blue night and a day. It stole
the oak trees leaves away, then snapped its boughs and
pulled its bark until the oak was tired and stark.
But still the oak tree held its ground while other
trees fell all around. The weary wind gave up and spoke,

(39:09):
how can you still be standing? Oak? The oak tree said,
I know that you can break each branch of mine
in two, carry every leaf away, shake my limbs and
make me sway. But I have roots stretched in the earth,
growing stronger since my birth. You'll never touch them, for
you see, they are the deepest part of me. Until today,

(39:31):
I wasn't sure of just how much I could endure.
But now I've found with thanks to you, I'm stronger
than I ever knew. And this idea that again from
the outside, bruised, battered, shaken, oviscerated, ridiculed, What are you

(39:52):
at your core? And if you think of that in
terms of this franchise, a lot of slings and arrows
over the last few years. Two and fifteen certainly was
rock bottom. And I'm not saying we're out of the clear,
but it does feel after these last few weeks going
into the by seeing some of these young players shine.

(40:13):
You can see the roots beneath the ground. And I'm
not saying the tree has grown. It's still sapling. We
got to stack branches and bark and grow more leaves.
But there is a feeling, Eugene that we may have
weathered the worst part and starting to see a little
sun outside.

Speaker 6 (40:33):
First of all, that's a lovely poem speaking of diversity
and still standing. That's a great message and I think
you're absolutely right because here, and I say this, because
of the rookies, there's an energy that's there that's kind
of underneath the seams a little bit because of the rookie.

Speaker 7 (40:55):
Class and what they're doing.

Speaker 6 (40:57):
You know, when we talk about standers, and again we're
talking about coch, we're talking about a Wallace or Richardson.
We're talking about guys who are contributing to the football
team and that will only bode well as you as
you move forward. And you're right, I don't think you
can see how good we are because of where we've
been coming from the last couple of seasons. But we're

(41:19):
not as bad as you think we are. And to
your point, we're still standing.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
We're still standing. And Dan Morgan, I think there is
a feeling that he knows what he's doing.

Speaker 7 (41:30):
Go ahead, Demo, that's right.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
He got a fourth round pick for Jonathan Mingo, who,
let's face it, we un said his name in a month.
He has shown he can find talent and I think
that reassurance more than anything. And you put one rookie
class together, but you found guys, you found dogs.

Speaker 7 (41:48):
That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Now we still have to stack some of those classes.
But there is some faith, there is some hope, and
going into this bye week from where we were just
a few weeks ago and certainly year ago, we've come
a long way.

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