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November 25, 2024 • 41 mins
This week on Panther Talk, Anish, Jim and Eugene speak with Jordan Gross, Jake Delhomme and Jonathan Stewart about Bryce Young, the Panthers week 12 loss to the Chiefs and so much more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The following is an exclusive presentation of the Carolina Panthers
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Football League pantherte and thirte and They're tone. This is
Panther Talk, presented by Bosh Power Tools on the Carolina
Panthers Radio Network.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
There's no moral victories for us.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
It's about executing. It's about finishing in the red zone.
We come away with Phil Gohals. The defense stopped them
mostly and then we gave up that touchdown for the half,
you know, and you know, so just wanting to make sure,
like our guys is like, yes, we can feel what's happening.
We can feel us becoming a team. But at the
same time, we have to be able to finish for
sixty minutes.

Speaker 4 (00:37):
And that's the challenge for us.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
And now, along with Jim Zochi and Eugene Robinson, here's
a Niche Shroff with Panther Talk live from the Panthers
broadcast facility at Bank of America Stadium.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Top finish to the game on Sunday. But a lot
of progress and a lot to be proud of in
terms of what happened to the month of November. A
couple of wins, the trip to Munich and pushing the
two time defending Super Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs all
the way to the brink. Let's bring in the head
coach of the Carolina Panthers, as we always do to
start the show, Dave Canalis. Dave, appreciate you coming on.

(01:18):
I think for starters, the story arc and the season
arc of the quarterback Bryce Young. Let's begin there what
we saw on Sunday, especially how he handled pressure and
how he handled the blitz. I'm sure there's things that
go on behind the scenes that we don't see, but

(01:40):
when you benched him and those weeks where he was
watching and learning, clearly he went to work. Can you
peel back the curtain a little bit and kind of
give us an idea of how he handled that adversity
and how it's helped him over these last few weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yeah, just one day at a time, one week at
a time, and applying himself to every game plan with
the expectation that you could have to play today. And
he did that and he prepared, he's he was a
part of all the conversations throughout the entire time, and
you know the critical downs, you know the checks and

(02:17):
balances in the run game in the past game, the
protection things, all those meetings and the drill work on
the field, all the stuff. You know, he's just been
a part of the whole process and committed to finding
his best and you know, waiting for an opportunity. And
once he got his opportunity, he's made the most.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
And what I've seen.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Is just progress every week in different areas, you know,
just you know, taking things, taking lessons from one game,
applying him to the following week of practice, and then
applying him to the game. And that's the type of
progress that that he showed us over the past, you know,
a couple of weeks.

Speaker 5 (02:52):
And coach, you had to be happy with that because
I knew that with just defense and how good they are,
that they were going to try to go ahead and
get eight man front. Let's stop that run because you
guys are so potent. So you had to have your
quarterback be that guy in the game because you were
facing an opponent that really was you know, set on
stopping the run.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Absolutely, and we had to take advantage of the things
that they were giving us, you know, And that's I know,
it's a simple statement, but it really is true that
when you can be a balanced offense, and you know,
we can have our pass game come alive like it did,
you know with Bryce and with you know, uh Feelin Xavier,
David Moore, JT making plays, you know, And when you

(03:35):
can do that, then you can play teams back into
playing coverage and then your run game shows up again,
which it did in the second half.

Speaker 6 (03:40):
And so.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
The goal for us is to find that balance throughout,
you know, where it doesn't have to be so lopsided
one way or the other. But you're writing, Eugene, it's
it was a great showing by Bryce to make that
part come alive so that we could be a balanced offense.

Speaker 7 (03:55):
Quarterback is such a unique position in any other position,
because you have to be a great player, but you
all so have to be this human being that is
a leader and that has confidence and you can lead
in the huddle but also inspire others. And it seems
so well received about his postgame talk that some of
the other players were talking about today as well. What
does that mean in terms of his development at this
stage of his young career twenty three that he's starting

(04:17):
to show a lot more of that side of his
personality too.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
And just earning his voice and doing it the right way,
you know, by letting his actions and letting his play
speak for himself. And then you know, seeing an opportunity
to show the guys, like, you know, as we continue
to build and we continue to have progress, that we
should expect great things. We should expect to be competitive
in all these games and to have that kind of standard.

(04:43):
And I love it because it gives me an opportunity
to hold Brice and hold a whole group accountable to
that on a weekly basis, on a daily basis, and
say this practice, guys.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
We can't go through the motions.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
If you want the standard you guys talked about, you
all came together and had that great moment after the game.
Then it starts today, it starts on Wednesday, and it
allows me to really capture that energy.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Dave, what have you most enjoyed about this journey from
where this team was after week one and week two
to what you've been seeing over the last month.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
It was the goal from the beginning, let's build the
brand of football that we're proud of playing and to
see the toughness, the physicality, to see the finish. Although
we didn't get the right finish. At the very end,
the defense gave us the ball back twice to give
us opportunities to tie it up and to see a
group that just continues to play for each other, that
enjoys the work, the process, the practices, the energy that's

(05:41):
happening there, all of those things they're they're owning it.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
And my dream of all dreams as their coach.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
Is that the coaches we would lay the foundation and
we would we would set the tone for the scheme
and putting them in the position to be successful, but
that the players would be.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
On the grass together owning it. And that's where we're headed.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
And coach, technically, when you're down there towards the end
of the game, you know you need to score and
you're in that scoring position. How much does the clock
play a big factor in not leaving so much time
on the clock for someone like a protrick Malmes?

Speaker 3 (06:16):
It does, Eugene, and I think you know, the past
interference on Adam put us at the one yard line,
and at that.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
Point beggars can't be choosers. Man, Yeah, we're right here.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
We're knocking on the door again, Like we got to
call our best stuff to punch it in, and we
can't really think about saving time when you're at the
one yard line. So the thought goes into it and
it's like, can we be balanced here? But once you
end up inside that fight, you got to be aggressive.
You got to take it when.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
You can and trust that your defense can get it there.

Speaker 8 (06:41):
You got to eat.

Speaker 7 (06:41):
Coach, I understand that I'm gonna wrap these two rookie
office players together into one question for you to combine.
Jonathan Brooks getting his first time out there to run
the ball just a couple of times, but what that
meant as far as you know, getting him established and
what it meant to him personally. But then also for
those who didn't get to here, the the ladies on
JJ Sanders having to leave with the neck injury, and
it sounds like some some positive and encouraging news coming

(07:04):
out of that.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Yeah, Jonathan two a couple of solid and hard. He
ran aggressive and that's awesome, you know, in a place
to start and to build from there. With JT a
really scary moment, and what we know from a medical
standpoint is, you know, it looks like we avoided a
you know, really serious injury. But with that kind of trauma.

(07:25):
You know, there's just a lot that goes into it.
So we're taking all the precautions necessary working on him,
just trying to get his whole body to just calm
down and and to just kind of evaluate where he
is on Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Coach, this is a team that since the trade of
Deontay Johnson at wide receiver, it's been it's been young, talented,
but young. Getting Adam feeling back in the mix. What
does that mean for that room?

Speaker 6 (07:53):
Huge?

Speaker 4 (07:53):
It's huge, right.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
It's it's his whole approach to the game. It's his professionalism,
It's the way that he works in practice to work
on his craft so that game day is easy, and
then his just his his passion on game day and
his competitiveness in the way that he's just he's just
trying to win, bottom line, and it's just that that
whole confidence and attitude he brings and just like Bryce,

(08:17):
knowing he's going to be where he's supposed to be.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
It's huge for the whole group.

Speaker 7 (08:21):
This next game Tampa Bay. We've course had Baker Mayfield
here a couple of years ago, and then you've coached
him so directly. I'm watching him yesterday downfield, throwing blocks
and throwing his body into the end zone. What was
it like to coach Baker Mayfield?

Speaker 4 (08:34):
It was such a joy.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
Just a guy that loves playing ball and h you know,
to have a guy that every day is like this adventure.
It's like, you know, he approaches his work that way.
He loves being on the grass. You know, he's chippy.
You know he's he's going after the defensive guys and
you know he's he's you know, talking to the offensive

(08:59):
guys and bringing them together.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
It was awesome.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Coach, Uh, your offensive lines faced a stiff test with
Behemits in the middle of the last few games, Dexter Lawrence,
Chris Jones, and you're about to get Vita Vea, who's
a man monster. Kate Mays seems to have held up
pretty well. What's impressed you about the way Kate Mads
has stepped in there at center just.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Doing his part, you know, trusting the guys on on
either side of him, getting the getting the line directed,
the offense directed in the run game, in the past game,
and and then just you know, snapping the ball on
time and you know, hopefully finishing the play, you know,
on his terms. But he's done a great job stepping
in for us.

Speaker 5 (09:41):
Case something's trans transcend football. And the other day on
the field, this young kid, uh totally Donato, who flew
from Wisconsin to be at a Panther Kansas City game
because he likes Kansas City of course and Panthers. And
I saw you on the field talking to that young man.
And I also saw all Andy Reid going by to

(10:02):
talk to him and a number of the players. Things
transfer in football. Can can you speak to how important
that is and why it's important for you to be
that philanthropic.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
It's the gift of every day, Eugene, and I know
that it's a blessing. You know that God's given us
this gift of today and the you know, the things
we get to do, you know, and it's that it's
that type of mentality and when we get to a chance,
you know, to meet people that come and and visit
with our teams who are going through really really hard things.

(10:33):
You know, it puts football in perspective and it says
and it shows us like, guys, at the end of
the day, let's enjoy this. We put a bunch of
work into it, Let's enjoy this thing and if we
can use this to just lighten somebody's day just a
little bit, then it's all worth it. And so that
that's one of those moments.

Speaker 5 (10:49):
Eugene from his mom Lacey, she wanted to say make
sure I said a thank you to you because it
lifted his spirits and do you thank you very much coach.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
Wow, it was my pleasure.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Coach. We appreciate your time as always. Thank you.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
All right, thanks guys, thank you.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Dave Canalis, head coach of the Carolina Panthers. When we
come back here on Panther Talk presented by Bosh Power Tools,
we'll kind of get into that game against the Chiefs yesterday.
Sometimes a win can mask flaws and sometimes a loss
can be a revelation as well, and this loss was

(11:25):
a revelation in a lot of ways. We talked about
it a few weeks ago where it felt we had
come through the storm, we had hit rock bottom, and
I think you're starting to see the upswing. And even
though they came up short, it took an all time
player to make a great play to lead a team
that knows how to win and has won the last
two Super Bowls to beat Carolina, but this was a

(11:48):
different team than we saw early in the season. We'll
talk about that when we come back here on the
Carolina Panthers Radio network.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
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Speaker 1 (12:02):
And A Shroff, Eugene Robinson, Jim Zoki. Panthers go to
and one in November, wins against the Saints and the Giants,
and they come up a field goal short against Kansas City.
But there were so many things in that game that
represented growth for the franchise, for the team. I think Jim,

(12:23):
from a big picture standpoint, when you've watched this season
progress from where we were Week one to where we
are now, I think there is confidence from a lot
of people who follow the team in the direction where
things are headed, certainly in Dave Canalis and Dan Morgan
and I thought the guy that, again we said it

(12:43):
in the preseason that holds the key to everything is
Bryce Young. If this guy is what this organization thought
he was when he was drafted and he was worth
all the assets they gave up, it changes the math
going forward. And if we're being honest, we hadn't really
seen the evidence, but what he showed us yesterday that

(13:05):
was by far and away the best game we've seen
him play, and that version of Bryce if he can
continue to stack evidence. You don't want to get ahead
of yourself, but it's hard not to.

Speaker 7 (13:17):
And you have to factor in the degree of difficulty
of the opponent. I mean last year of Green Bay, right,
he had a three hundred yard games, so he had
a big day and they fired their decordinator. They were
not a good defense. This was a top five defense,
and as g made the point, you know, top three
stopping the runs. They dare you to throw and they
where they dare you to throw. He dared to succeed
in that first quarter. I think it was six out
of seven for over one hundred yards in the first

(13:38):
quarter when they were starting to stack that box and
all that. And there, as we all know, this duality
of you're trying to win every week, but you're also building,
if you will, like a program to use a college term,
So you're trying to build your program here and you know,
what are the pieces, what are the parts? And the
biggest one, as we talked about for so many reasons,
is quarterback and knowing and it's going to be really
exciting over these next six games to see what more

(13:59):
he can do with everybody because it's collaborative. But what
what Spryce is roll in that because things do feel
more like, Okay, you can you see the vision now,
you can kind of see the growth. You can see
what they saw when they drafted him, all those kinds
of things. So I think these next six weeks well,
to Anice's point, kind of helped further give that answer
like are are we good now? Like do we have
it or do we think that next year could be

(14:19):
the year year three where he I'm not saying finished
product this year, but you can see that the assent
is going to be like, Okay, I can get the
trajectory of where he's gonna go.

Speaker 5 (14:27):
And then when you flip on the other side of
the ball, is DJ want him that good? I mean,
he's impressive to me. He he gets.

Speaker 8 (14:35):
Up the field.

Speaker 5 (14:36):
He we had when we had Pep and we had
uh Rucker Rucker. He does a good job of getting
up the field and squeezing down. He had a sack yesterday,
but he was a part of a couple of sacks
that people got because of his pressure on the outside,
and we hadn't seen that pressure since Brian Burns a
little bit some uh Hassan Riddick Uh that we've seen

(14:59):
that type of pressure.

Speaker 8 (15:00):
I'm going, Wow, this guy right here is good. He's
a very good player.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Five sacks for the defense. They had twelve all season
in the first eleven weeks of the year. And on
the flip side, Jim Kansas City brought pressure. They blitzed
a lot Bryce Young against The blitz was eleven of
thirteen for a buck thirty five. And there was not
just the confidence, but a decisiveness, a willingness to throw

(15:28):
the ball downfield, to trust the pocket. So many things
that were missing early last season, so many things that
were tough to come into focus a year ago. You're
starting to see it. And I think the one thing
we sometimes forget he's still only twenty three. He and
I do a lot of college football. How many quarterbacks

(15:50):
have we seen this year that are older than Bryce Young?

Speaker 6 (15:52):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (15:52):
Yeah, there's six years college kids that are still getting
aniol my.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Twenty three, twenty four. They're still in college twenty four.

Speaker 8 (15:59):
He's twenty three in the Yeah, and I think two.
I love what you said about the deep balls too.

Speaker 7 (16:02):
It's like, because that's their thing too, is like it's
not just like an entertainment aspect. It's like, you can't
wait function if everything's right around the line of the screen,
and it can't all be bubble screens, and you know
these four and folk screens, quick routes, and you've got
to be able. You have to challenge it will load
the box on the run and they will press cover
if you can't throw deep. And even Exavier will get
apologize if you dropping one yesterday, because when it's there,

(16:24):
you got to get it by the day.

Speaker 8 (16:25):
He had it, right, I mean, he put the ball
right there.

Speaker 7 (16:27):
This is the next step, right, I mean the next
and again we see it in moments, but consistently. Now,
you know, can we get more of that? And you
don't have to throw it sixty yards in the air.
We're talking about you know, twenty five thirty yards, but
you you know, put it in the right place and
don't throw a pick. I mean, that's that's really the
next step in this whole offense going.

Speaker 8 (16:43):
So no doubt.

Speaker 5 (16:44):
And I love the way more responded. I thought that
because Cocher's out and I'm like more Man, they responded.

Speaker 8 (16:50):
Feeling comes back, and feeling is that guy.

Speaker 5 (16:53):
He's just another He's another player that you gotta be
wary of.

Speaker 8 (16:57):
We saw that DPI in the end.

Speaker 5 (16:58):
Zonem like dude that's big, steeling, is like savvy, he's crafty.
You know, you you you gotta play for that. And
if he doesn't go ahead, it's gonna be a it's
gonna be a caught for a touchdown. And so I
like the fact that the young guys stepping up. You know,
I know Sander's got hurt, but there's some guys who
are stepping up to the plate. And that's only gonna

(17:20):
move and go well as we move forward, because Bryce
is gonna get accustomed to what likes, what Cocher likes,
what more likes. Oh I got I got your Sanders, Yeah,
I got your back boom. That's how we're gonna do
this route. That's what we're seeing too. And we're seeing
that Bryce taking control of that too. DJ DJ Moore
said he ran a seven route yesterday and they were

(17:42):
on the same page. He knew exactly where he was
gonna throw the ball and he knew exactly where to
be at. You can only get that through practice and
and being with each other and running the same route
over and over again.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
There were a few throws that he made where we're
sitting there in the booth and we're looking at each
other going, wow, we hadn't seen this before. The throw
to David Moore in the end zone for the touchdown,
that was the tight window. And he's made a few
tight window throws.

Speaker 7 (18:10):
And Tommy Trumple should have got one honestly, that should
have to have been touchdown by the post.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Those are areas where you're seeing tangible growth, tangible improvement.
And I think in football, because the season is so
condensed you only have seventeen games, every loss seems catastrophic.
In every win, especially when you're coming off losing seasons,
you want to treat as this turning point. But I

(18:36):
don't think anybody expected us to be in that game
in the fourth quarter. Scott Hansen on the Red Zone
Channel didn't think he would be on Kansas City, Carolina
with two minutes to go.

Speaker 5 (18:46):
Absolutely no one thought that we have a chance to
be in that game. We were done with. It was
like eleven points wind well.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Think about it, fourteen point, twenty to six. At one
point they get a field goal before halftime, twenty to nine.
And it's twenty to twenty six sixteen twenty seven six
team in the fourth quarter, and you're thinking, okay, yeah,
you hung, but I don't think the defense can come
up with a stop. They come up with two they came.

Speaker 5 (19:10):
I thought the defense played really well towards the end
of the game. Now, when when Mahomes breaks that pocket
and he gets out to go ahead and create some stuff,
that's a quarterback.

Speaker 8 (19:19):
Doing some real.

Speaker 5 (19:22):
Exactly. That's what that That's what that is. I mean,
that's just a really good play. But the defense played well.
They have some stops and turn the ball over and
give it back to the offense. I was like, dude,
these guys are playing well against this team, against that defense.

Speaker 8 (19:36):
Watch out. I mean, they're playing some good football.

Speaker 7 (19:38):
Bet Mahomes run was ironic because it was a run
like that, although not down the edge like that by
Josh Allen that beat them the week before and fourth
and two.

Speaker 8 (19:45):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
And my point in saying that is.

Speaker 7 (19:47):
There were like a handful of like MVP superstar guys,
and that's why when you get one like that, you know,
you really invest and you spend half a billion dollars
to keep it that's a half a billion dollar quarterback
out there running yesterday, and there's a reason he's being
paid that handsomely so that you can play great defense
all you want. But that's that Michael Jordan moment we go.
You know, they're just a little bit better for a reason,

(20:09):
and you hope to catch them on a day when
they're not right at the top.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Yeah, there's three guys who could probably do that, Mahomes,
Josh Allen, Lamar jas Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 8 (20:17):
Yeah, and you.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Asked Dave Canalis this in the first segment. Hey, did
you worry about there being too much time? We said
it on the radio when they got down to the one,
and again, there's nothing you can do because you got
to punch it. You got to punch it two point conversion.
But the Boogeyman was in the back of everybody's mind. Hey,
there's a little less than two minutes to go. They
have three timeouts, and oh, by the way, they have

(20:40):
the best closer in the NFL.

Speaker 5 (20:41):
Exactly, I felt nervous, Oh my goodness, too much time
on the clock. I was hoping maybe thirty seconds on
the clock, twenty five seconds on the clock.

Speaker 8 (20:50):
That's different now, we can go on over time.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
How much did he need in that playoff game against
Buffalo thirteen nineteen?

Speaker 8 (20:55):
Oh, that game was ridiculous. It was ridiculous, But that's
what you're dealing with.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
DA You know exactly was it a lot? I've been
our thirteen yeah, thirteen seconds.

Speaker 8 (21:03):
It is ridiculous.

Speaker 5 (21:03):
But he's that good and so don't lose sight of
it that, Hey, we didn't play well. That guy is
chipping in from way out like Tiger Woods would do.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
The challenge now is you have shown you can compete
with the gold standard of the NFL. Now how do
you build off this?

Speaker 8 (21:20):
See? I think that you keep going what you're doing.

Speaker 5 (21:25):
There's a confidence that's happening on the defense, and there's
a confidence that's on the office, and I think it's
with the offensive line because the office line is doing
a great job of protection, great job of protection.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
And.

Speaker 5 (21:37):
Despite having eight men in the box, we were able
to run later on in the game. And so I'm like, okay,
we're getting back to what we can go ahead and do.

Speaker 8 (21:45):
So you just stayed.

Speaker 5 (21:46):
Of course, we run the board us the brend and
butter five percent there maybe forty five percent of throwing
the Rock. I would keep that same type of mix.
But I'm going and I'm from me, Jerald, I'm going
after people. You got some dogs, Let's go sack everybody.
Let's let's put them five six sacks a game. Let's
get after Jimmy. Look at the remaining schedule right outside

(22:09):
of Philadelphia, nobody out there is playing at some kind
of crazy elite level right now. Tampa is down its
top two wide receivers, Dallas is a mess their quarterbacks out,
Atlanta's been inconsistent.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
You got Tampa again? Who am I missing? Arizona Detroit?

Speaker 5 (22:29):
Right, well, we don't play the truck Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Right, Arizona, Arizona, Arizona Again. That divisions the uh Antonio
Salieri of the NFL media.

Speaker 7 (22:40):
Everybody's five right media, And we play in the NFC South.
So right there, you're like, you say, we have a
lot of division.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Games we should throw we shouldn't throw stones inward up.

Speaker 7 (22:51):
But we're just saying it's like we're not playing the
Chiefs every week there. So if Philadelphia would be the
other one that's really obviously playing six in a row,
they've won or something.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Yeah, so they're playing really well.

Speaker 7 (22:59):
Sep maybe, but I think that, you know, the other
ones are again, degree of difficulty matters, like coaches always
going to say the right thing. We worry about ourselves, nameless, nameless,
faceless who you're playing, But it doesn't matter because that's again,
that performance yesterday would have been well, that would have
beat probably eighty ninety percent of the rest of the
league if you could play like that.

Speaker 5 (23:19):
Yes, So what I'm telling you, we're not as bad
as people may think we are. We're a really good
team and it showed yesterday. And that's why Patrick Mahomes
even in this press conference, it was like, man, okay, hold.

Speaker 8 (23:31):
On, wait a minute.

Speaker 5 (23:32):
Maybe we're not as good as we think we are,
but I think as the conference preff is a lot
better than what they think.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
That was what stood out to me. This wasn't a
game where Mahomes threw three interceptions. It wasn't the game
where the Chiefs were fumbling the ball and turning it over.
They played a clean game, penalties, wanted to shoot, but
more so for the Panthers. The Chiefs scored on their
first five drives, they scored I think on six of
their eight drives, essentially made Carolina go toe to toe

(24:00):
with them, and the Panthers had to do it against
the top five defense.

Speaker 8 (24:04):
Kansas City played well, Yes.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
And the Panthers almost won the game.

Speaker 5 (24:10):
And that's exactly what That's why. I know he said
there's no moral victories.

Speaker 8 (24:14):
I get it. But guess what, Sometimes you gotta take.
I know you gotta take this one.

Speaker 5 (24:18):
That's a good, good, good loss that looks like it
should have been a win.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
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Speaker 2 (24:31):
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Speaker 7 (24:35):
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a big part of this Sharlott community talking Panthers Memories,
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Speaker 7 (24:56):
Jayse do you hear them all the time? You hear
them for one thing on the Panthers pregame sh with
me every week heading into the game. You hear mind
the Panthers Podcast that he does. He does an Oregon podcast.
He's all over the place. Jay stew glad to have
you a big part of this community still. And for
those who don't know, you know you grew up in
the state of Washington. I think this is still accurate

(25:16):
that you still to this day are the all time
leading high school prep rushing running back in the history
of the state of Washington. What was it like growing
up there? And then also, you were a parade All
American man. You were not like some regional recruit. You
were a national all across the board recruit. What was
that like as far as once your ability's kicked in

(25:36):
throughout your high school career and you knew you could
pretty much go anywhere you wanted, it was cool.

Speaker 9 (25:41):
Like my dad was in a military He was in
an army, and so I grew up in military brat
and then my parents got divorced when I was in
fourth grade. My mom moved to Olympia, Washington. She dated
a guy named James Parker, which I call him JP,
who is responsible for getting me into football. He was
a custodian and back in the day when people had

(26:04):
pagers and that cell phones, I would page him just
about every single day that I didn't have school for
him to come toss the football around with me. And so,
you know, at a young age, I got introduced to
football through an experience that was connection to you know,
feeling love right and having having someone you know, spend

(26:29):
time with me, you know, especially in those moments in
transition of our life.

Speaker 6 (26:34):
You know, it was very important.

Speaker 9 (26:36):
And I fell in love with the game, you know,
as a as a fourth grader, fifth grader, and you know, God,
you know obviously you know, bless me with a gift,
you know, to be able to run fast, and eventually
I grew into my body and the rest was history.

Speaker 8 (26:58):
You know.

Speaker 9 (26:58):
Playing football in Washington, you know, the fields were always
sloppy and messy because they played so much. Uh And
I obviously think that went to my advantage. And you know,
I loved football from day one, and growing up, I
used to rollerblade everywhere, even when it rained, when it

(27:21):
was cold, when it was hailing, when like, I was
a big rollerblader growing up. And I really kind of
think the rollblading helped me with football, you know, being
able to balance and you know, doing tricks and stuff
like that on one foot jumping and hopping and doing
all those things. I couldn't imagine really doing that now

(27:41):
my body would fall apart.

Speaker 6 (27:42):
But it was awesome.

Speaker 9 (27:44):
It was an awesome experience growing up in Washington, grew
up in the church, you know, and and being very involved,
you know, from the youth era of my life, you know,
being a.

Speaker 4 (28:00):
Church leader, youth church leader in high school, and.

Speaker 9 (28:04):
I feel like that really paved the way for me
to be successful as a college kid and so on
and so forth.

Speaker 7 (28:11):
That's awesome. Well, you're grounded in all the right ways,
whether it's running or in your faith, and then you're podcasting,
you're broadcasting with us as well. Retired from football, what
do you think the next chapter is?

Speaker 5 (28:21):
Like?

Speaker 7 (28:21):
Your guy, like in your mid to late thirties, right,
so what's the next chapter of your life look like?
With raising the kids and everything that you got planned?

Speaker 9 (28:29):
Yeah, the next chapter is you know, I'm obviously doing
the podcasting, and I just want to continue to grow
in that space. And you know, I feel like broadcasting
the world is forever growing, and I think ten years
from now, we don't really know exactly what.

Speaker 6 (28:43):
It's going to look like.

Speaker 9 (28:44):
So I just want to be able to be prepared
and ready for any opportunities that may come my way
in that regard, and then when it comes to you know,
everything else, I'm very entrepreneurial oriented, you know. I make
sure I'm on top of my investments, always looking to

(29:05):
invest and create.

Speaker 6 (29:07):
I honestly think, you know, God, you know.

Speaker 9 (29:09):
Being, you know, the creator of all creators, right, He
created everything, and we were, you know, born and made
in his image. I just honestly feel like, you know,
we ought to be creating. And you know, Jim, You're
really good at what you do. And what you do

(29:29):
is you create a narrative for people to follow. Every Sunday,
every time you get on the radio, you're creating entertainment.
You're creating something for people to listen to, and you're
doing exactly what God has called.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
You to do. And you're blessed to be able to
do that.

Speaker 9 (29:48):
And not a lot of people are blessed to do
those types of things. So whatever I'm doing and whatever
I do down the road, I want to make sure
that I'm doing something along those lines.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
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Speaker 7 (30:09):
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Speaker 2 (30:14):
This is Panther Talk since him Tools, Jordan and Jake Good.

Speaker 6 (30:22):
I'm ready to go the home stops.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
He throws at a crossfield.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
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Speaker 2 (30:28):
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and Jake Dilome.

Speaker 10 (30:35):
I am stonedang proud of our team and impressed.

Speaker 4 (30:40):
Maybe less than proud.

Speaker 10 (30:41):
I don't know if I deserve to be proud because
I don't have that many good relations I mean that
many relationships with those guys to know them well enough.
Impressed might be the better word.

Speaker 6 (30:48):
With the game, and I know you're mad that we.

Speaker 10 (30:51):
Lost, and I'm not happy that we lost, but it
was an it was adversarial conditions and lots of reasons
to just be mad as a player and man, man
just so close.

Speaker 11 (31:03):
Yeah, Jordan, yesterday was I'd like to think I've seen
a little bit of progress the last couple of weeks,
the Saints game and the Giants game. But let's call
it like it is. You know that Saints team, they
were in a bad way, at least to me watching
them warm up. That game, and sure enough, Dennis Allen
was fired the next day, and it just didn't seem.

Speaker 6 (31:24):
Like, you know, they were all there.

Speaker 11 (31:26):
And then we beat the Giants team in Germany that
you know, they didn't play the best. I think we
had something to do with it, but we got two wins. Well,
you're playing the two time defending super Bowl champs.

Speaker 6 (31:37):
They're not in one.

Speaker 11 (31:38):
They're coming off of a tough loss at Buffalo, who's
a fantastic team.

Speaker 6 (31:42):
So we were gonna have a.

Speaker 11 (31:44):
Test and to see the sea of red in the
stadium and listen, I'm the same way that they have
earned that right and we have not, as Carolina Panther
football players, fans, whatever, we haven't earned that right to
have that through home field advantage by the way the
product we put on the field the last few years.

Speaker 6 (32:04):
Right.

Speaker 11 (32:05):
So you know, I flew in late Saturday afternoon and
it was packed at the airport, Kansas City fans coming
in and that's okay.

Speaker 6 (32:13):
You know they were there yesterday.

Speaker 11 (32:15):
That team, they have two major, major you know, superstars
that are global, and I'm just proud the way we fought,
the way we.

Speaker 6 (32:25):
Played a clean game both teams. But I think the thing.

Speaker 11 (32:30):
You saw it, you felt it in the stadium, like
late third quarter, the second quarter, I felt it then
again in the fourth like the fans for the for Carolina,
they stood up. It was like, okay, like I see something,
I feel something here.

Speaker 6 (32:46):
It just it felt different.

Speaker 11 (32:48):
So Kansas City like man like this team, like this
is not fluky.

Speaker 10 (32:53):
There was audible crowd noise from the Panther fans that
were there in that fourth quarner with all those sacks
and penalties by the Chiefs and two point conversions like
it was a lively home environment. Was just such a
funny game to watch from home because it started out
with like, oh geez, the whole stadium's read. They almost

(33:15):
run the opening.

Speaker 4 (33:16):
Day kickoff back.

Speaker 10 (33:17):
Then the Chiefs go down and score in under two minutes,
and you're just, you know, to be honest, you're thinking
a little bit like, no is it what are we
doing here? And the dang Panthers just kept freaking pounding
Jake all the way through that game.

Speaker 6 (33:31):
We're down eleven in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 10 (33:34):
Thought Bryce Young looked awesome and they blitzed the heck
out of him. You go to the dang Chiefs, you're
playing against Patrick Mahomes. I don't care what young quarterback
who you are you're thinking about that. That on the
other side is Patrick Mahomes. If you're Bryce young, you
know what I mean. I thought he looked super good.
The O line ran the ball well again with Cuba.
Cuba scored on the two point conversion and nobody even

(33:55):
blocked Chris Jones and Cuba ran through him, you know,
next to him him whatever to score major like moving
in the right like a state.

Speaker 6 (34:04):
It's not a statement win.

Speaker 10 (34:06):
When you think of statement loss, you think it's something atrocious.
You know that like sets the tone for more and
more losing. But Jake, the confidence for our guys be like, well, heck,
I guess where we can play with the defending two
time defending champs. Man, let's roll.

Speaker 6 (34:19):
Yeah, Jordan, I think that was the thing that you saw.
And listen, it starts with the quarterback. I'll go and
say it.

Speaker 11 (34:26):
I thought, you know, Bryce, against the Saints, hey, we
gotta win. You know it was we did some good things,
I thought against the Giants.

Speaker 6 (34:33):
We made some plays. We missed a couple late that.

Speaker 11 (34:36):
I wish we could have. But it was different yesterday.
It was just totally different. He got swallowed by Chris
Jones one time, the play that JT.

Speaker 6 (34:46):
Sanders ended up getting hurt on like he got swallowed.

Speaker 11 (34:50):
I mean, Chris Jones is a large human being watching
him in person warm up, getting close to that team,
watching them warm up. It just he stood in the pocket,
the deep cross routes that he that he made the plays, uh.

Speaker 6 (35:03):
Using his feet.

Speaker 11 (35:04):
Get the thing that I liked more than anything one
we had one d ball that I think exavierly get.
I think he's gonna, you know, be critical of himself
something he probably needs to come down with. But we've
missed those this year, right, so we missed those passes. Well,
he hit him in stride, but when he escaped the pocket,

(35:24):
it was quick, escaped up.

Speaker 6 (35:26):
And in and he got rid of the ball immediately.

Speaker 11 (35:29):
And those are things like so the one to thielan
interference in the end zone.

Speaker 6 (35:33):
He saw it so fast, feeling's behind the dB. The
DB's dead, he's he's dead, and he.

Speaker 11 (35:39):
Throws it only where Adam could catch it and the
dB runs through him.

Speaker 6 (35:42):
It's an easy flag. Everyone saw it.

Speaker 11 (35:44):
And then on the two point play, the one that
before Troopers scored when we had the other interference with
David Moore.

Speaker 6 (35:51):
The play front side to the left was dead.

Speaker 11 (35:53):
There was nothing there, and they had a rush and
Bryce knew, okay, I've got to give someone a chance,
and he hurried up, got his eyes back.

Speaker 6 (36:00):
Same thing. David Moore put the defensive back.

Speaker 11 (36:02):
End straight a stressful position and he was able to
give him a shot for a dB hatty interfear. Just
some of those things that just stood out now that
was different.

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Speaker 1 (36:33):
We are on to Tampa Bay, first of two meetings
with the Bucks. They will meet again in week seventeen
in Tampa Bay. This weekend, Tampa comes to Bank of
America Stadium. Baker Mayfield's had a pretty good season for
the Buccaneers, But Eugene they're using their tight ends a
lot more. They're using their backs a lot more in

(36:55):
the passing game. No Mike Evans, no Chris Godwin, You're
losing two guys who were two of the best receivers
in the history of that franchise.

Speaker 5 (37:07):
Yeah, and that does handicamp them. But there's something about
Baker Mayfield that wow. I mean, as I watched him,
he's found a home in Tampa and he's he's he's
found his stride, and he's he's playing some really really
good ball. I mean when coach Canalis was was coaching him,
he was like, he had like thirty touchdowns as quarterback

(37:27):
rating was like one o five, one o four somewhere
around there. Well that's what his quarterback rating is right now.
So he's really found his stride and I think he's
he's making the receivers better. The offense seems to be
better with him in it and and and operating it.
And I think it's going to be a pretty tall

(37:47):
task of getting at him. I like how we played
against Kansas City where we were able to go ahead
and get after people and we were able to go
ahead and get them sacks.

Speaker 8 (37:57):
I think that's going to be required against uh Baker.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Yeah, and correction, Mike Evans did come back.

Speaker 8 (38:03):
I was gonna say he did play.

Speaker 7 (38:04):
So I was gonna actually throw it into So he
is back and that's significant, and he was their leading
receiver five catches, sixty eight yard.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
Does anything against the Panthers.

Speaker 8 (38:12):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 7 (38:13):
I mean he's yeah, he's all time.

Speaker 8 (38:15):
See him drop a ball at the end zone when
he was.

Speaker 7 (38:18):
He did that was a game we won. Actually the
game he just dropped. I did see that. That was
a game changer. But anyways, he's back. He's good. But yeah,
they and Baker's always been one wherever he is like
the highlight, the tight end, so like Kitat and obviously
things like that are always gonna be significant with what
they do.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
But I mentioned really quickly to Dave.

Speaker 7 (38:36):
Canals if you saw any of the highlights, if you
just saw the highlights, he's downfield twenty thirty yards blocking
on a run, like throwing a real block, like a
full back, and then he threw his body into the
end zone and did the Tommy DeVito celebration.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
I mean, he's still that kid.

Speaker 7 (38:49):
From Oklahoma that's gonna plant the flag on the Buckeyes logo.
So there's a he's still got that big chip on
his shoulder.

Speaker 5 (38:55):
And he's having fun and he's having fun but it's
infectious too because everybody as well as you leave.

Speaker 6 (39:01):
You know.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
It was one of those things. When he came to
Carolina a couple of years ago, he had a reputation.
We never saw that. He was, by all accounts, a
beloved teammate. Guys liked him. Didn't work out all right,
he got hurt, was not productive when he played. But
uh I never sensed that, and I never got that
from the guys on the team even after he left.

(39:22):
Sometimes guys leave and then they'll say, no, Baker was
a great teammate. We we loved him, and we had
heard all this, never really saw it.

Speaker 8 (39:29):
He grew up, he did people change.

Speaker 7 (39:31):
I mean, I think he's matured into a veteran quarterback
now and a leader. And I think he always had
that leadership ability, but it's a more mature leadership. Like
I said, some of the stuff we're talking about, like
they was asked a BYuT Thedavita thing. Afterwards he got,
I like Tommy DeVito, I play. I know Tommy DeVito.
So for him, it was a it was a fun poke.
It was a tree quarterbacks. It wasn't taunting. Uh So

(39:52):
I think it's I think it's you need characters in
this league too, and when you're right. When he was here,
I think it was very bland because I think he
was really like not who he normally is, coming from Cleveland,
thinking I gotta be the quiet kid in class and
not the troublemakers.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
And now he's had success, he can be himself real quick, Eugene,
I look at third downs in this game. Tampa's been
excellent fifty percent plus on third downs. Panther's third down
defense is amongst the worst infl.

Speaker 5 (40:17):
And, and that's that's one of the biggest problems. We
We can't get off off the field on third dow defensively,
and you got to be able to get off the
field of the third dow. Here it is I think
when the formulas is this. If I'm coaching Gerald, I'm
gonna I'm gonna bless him. I'm gonna get after them.
I'm gonna try to put him on the ground, and
I want to put him on the growl, and I
wanted to I want to stand over him when I

(40:39):
put him on the growl, and so I I.

Speaker 8 (40:41):
Want to get after this.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
I want to list in him.

Speaker 8 (40:44):
I want to definitely have Muhamma Lee. We put the
hands out there. Yeah. I want to listen, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
I want to see some battered balls for old time sake.

Speaker 8 (40:54):
Oh wow, they're good.

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