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October 13, 2025 • 42 mins
This week on Panther Talk, Anish, Jim and Eugene speak with Dave Canales, Fozzy Whittaker, and Adam Amin about the Panthers 30-27 win over the Dallas Cowboys, and this Sunday's road trip to New York to play the Jets.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The following is an exclusive presentation of the Carolina Panthers
and the National Football League.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
That's the tough Panther.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
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Speaker 4 (00:11):
This is Panther Talk on the Carolina Panthers Radio network.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
It's Gerald Swings the.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Lead, The chick is good and the Panthers twit it
Carolina thirty Dallas twenty seven, Sweet Carolina.

Speaker 5 (00:27):
Indeed, it's just a group that's learning good process. And
that's what I want. That's at my heart, my heart
is that we can capture that part and show them
and prove to them.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
This leads to results. Guys.

Speaker 5 (00:38):
If we bring everything we have every day every practice,
everything counts. Everything is so important to us. And I
get to just double down on that part, like, let's
keep a hold of what's getting us at this point.
It's the work.

Speaker 4 (00:49):
And now, along with Jim Zochi and Eugene Robinson, here's
a Niche shrouf with Panther Talk live from the Panthers
broadcast facility at Bank of America Stio.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Victory Monday in Charlotte, North Carolina and across the Carolina's
Panthers at three and three, last second field goal by
Ryan Fitzgerald delivering the win against the Cowboys on Sunday
and a shrof Jimzoki, Eugen Robinson and the head coach
of the Carolina Panthers, Dave Kanalis and coach. I want
to begin with where this game seemed to start, which

(01:28):
was what you guys were able to do on first down.
It seemed you guys were living in second and three,
second and two. As a play caller, what does that
do for you?

Speaker 5 (01:37):
Opens up the whole playbook When you get into second
in shorts, you can run the ball to get his
new set of downs, or you can throw your play actions.
And we had some success with some of our play
actions because of that. And you know, it all starts
up front. And started the game off with the running,
good old duo and just getting downhill clipped off nine
yards on the first one, you know, and and it
just felt the energy from the guys, felt the push

(02:00):
on the left side, Ikey and Damien and en Rico
again just running physically and aggressive downhill and making those
guys tackle on the perimeter.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
I made the note duo five and a half yards
per play this season? What is it about that scheme
that has worked so well for you guys.

Speaker 5 (02:18):
It's an attitude run. We have some powerful men on
the interior. We have tight ends who can cover up
and move guys on the edge. We got wide receivers
who aren't afraid to put their hands on people. And
you know, it fits our runners. It fits Rico and
Cuba and those guys running downhill with their shoulder square
to the line of scrimmage and they can make multiple cuts.
You know, it almost becomes a you know, a triple

(02:38):
option of itself. It can bounce, it can go downhill,
it can go back door sometimes, and but again, it's
just about combination. It's about technique and fundamentals. Pad level
it's one of the most basic plays, which pretty much
all teams in the NFL have it. But it's the
commitment to doing it well and the fundamentals of it
that makes it go.

Speaker 6 (02:56):
You're talking about pad level, and let's talk about it.
Doesn't It almost seems to me it doesn't matter what
running back is back there, because the way the offensive
line is gelling and moving people off the ball, whether
it's an inside gap of his own stretch, it doesn't matter.
If they're moving people off the ball. And that's contributing
to a lot of that success.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (03:16):
And you know, start off, start off with Damian Lewis,
you know, a guy that just uh, his confidence, his aggressiveness,
you know, his passion for the game. And a bunch
of guys in that offensive line room. They have such
a great culture in there that they've created. They spend
a lot of time together. They have all these games
and things that they do, and they got the best
snacks in the building. They sneak into the top of

(03:37):
the line room absolutely, and uh, you know, got to
credit Michael Tarquin and some of the younger linemen for
restocking those But but they spend a lot of time
together and they build that chemistry. It matters to them.
They hold each other accountable. They're always working. They're on
the side when the defense has their their their reps.
During practice, the offensive line is reviewing pressures, they're reviewing fronts,

(03:58):
uh stunts in different common nations in the run game.
They're always working. And that's a credit to Harold Goodwin,
Joe Gilbert, those guys putting it together.

Speaker 7 (04:06):
And two weeks in a row, obviously Brady in the
starting lineup at right guard. What was that combination on
that You mentioned the left side earlier with him and
Nyman on the right side, How did that play out
for you?

Speaker 5 (04:14):
Excellent? I mean, we were so blessed to have those
guys in the building to be able to step in
and still maintain good football and play it at a
high level. I thought this was Josh Nyman's best game
as a Panther. We've had him in and out a
couple of times. He's done an admiral job the other
times as well, helping us when Timo was out. But
I thought yesterday was it was an absolute great game

(04:34):
by Yosh in the run game and the past game.

Speaker 6 (04:37):
Coach, does that mess things up for you as when
you get guys coming back then having to go ahead
and fit these pieces back into place.

Speaker 5 (04:43):
It just gives me more confidence that I know that
we can last for a season that way, because it's
so hard anymore to play with the same five guys,
you know, I don't. That's such a rare thing across
the league, and so to know that we have guys
that can step in and still I can call any
play that that's at my disposal on the call sheet
in any area and have confidence with it.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
All right, stay on that topic because it's sort of
the elephant in the room, and it's a good problem
to have. And you said it, when Suba comes back,
how do you handle the running back carries with him
and the way Rico's playing.

Speaker 5 (05:15):
It's a great problem to try to figure out. But
everybody knows we have to find ways to get Rico involved.
And we know who Cuba is, we know what he's about.
And if you don't think Cuba's chomping at the bit
to get back out there, you know, and get and
be a part of what's happening here with this run game,
you know he's excited to get back out there. And
but again, you know, we'll have to figure that part out.
Brad and I have had a bunch of conversations about

(05:36):
how to do that best. There are some examples around
the League of systems where two backs are being really productive.
So we have to kind of take a page out
of their notebook and see if we can make it
happen for us.

Speaker 7 (05:46):
That's gonna say, as you know, you can take a
page out of Panthers history books with Jonathan Stewart, t
Angelo Williams.

Speaker 5 (05:53):
This is legendary.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
For another group.

Speaker 7 (05:56):
They just say a nickname probably is the biggest.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Thing that I got.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Sunshine and moonshine. Yeah, a caroline on my mind. Oh okay,
I got James. Okay, I take it back. Well, let's
let's talk about Jimmy Horn coach.

Speaker 6 (06:11):
When he caught the ball on that silent on that
I don't know if he swung swing pattern. When he
accelerate up the field, I had no idea the speed
that he has. I'm like, might we see him more often?
Because this speed is incredible.

Speaker 5 (06:25):
Absolutely, he is taking the role that we've given him
and he's dominating the role.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Is it perfect?

Speaker 5 (06:31):
No, we got things to clean up, but he certainly
opens up the defense a little bit with his speed.
And speaking of that burst, I'd like to see more
of that burst in the field of play because he
took about four or five steps out of bounds he did,
so that's the next step right there. But he but
he certainly has given us an element in the last
two weeks of stretching the field horizontally and vertically. So

(06:52):
we look forward to continue to.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Use that defensively.

Speaker 7 (06:56):
You look at the box sware of defensive stats and
you don't see big numbers from DJE and Patrick Jones yesterday.
But what is it meant to having those two guys
back the last two weeks in that front seven for
you guys in terms of just the rotation and just
kind of really the calmness they bring to that entire
defense as far as professional football goes.

Speaker 5 (07:11):
Absolutely, and it starts every Monday.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
You know.

Speaker 5 (07:14):
It's how they go about their work week. It's how
professional they are and the example that they're setting for
Nick Gorton and princely humanmale. Just to watch Pat and
to watch DJ work, the way they do, the way
they practice, the way they play physical on game day,
they're getting their hands or pads on somebody and setting
edges and it's a physical style of play and accountability

(07:35):
that I just love and love having those guys out
there and love the influence that they have on the
whole group.

Speaker 6 (07:40):
In the beginning of the season, and we talked about
the edges, and we talked about the tackling.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
That was one of the issues. It seemed to be
all cleared up.

Speaker 6 (07:48):
But one thing that you said, he said, this team
is a physical team, a really physical team. Now we're
seeing that really being evident that they're just destroying guys.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
I mean, Dallas had if I was.

Speaker 6 (08:00):
Running back back down, I'm like, dude, don't give me
the ball because this is a crazy.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Right now, what are you seeing?

Speaker 6 (08:05):
And as a team, Jils taking care of the edges
and getting at the people.

Speaker 5 (08:10):
Yeah, it's commitment to each other again, starts with Derek Brown,
the tone setter of the whole thing and playing violently
and just like the energy it requires to chase the
ball consistently and making sure that everybody's doing that and
tied into the back half as well with your secondary
Nick Scott had a great day run into the ball,
capping off runs, putting his shoulder pads on and getting

(08:31):
people down. But it's a full group commitment and it's
their process during the week. It's the way I've seen
these guys now for three weeks, I'll say, three amazing
weeks of practice where the communication, the anticipation of what's
coming based on personnel formation and the different tells. You
got to be so tight in and locked into those
things if you want to play fast in this league.

(08:52):
And that's the way that that's the direction that I
see this group continuing to grow.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
You talked about this last week as well, with Trevin
Wallace being the green dot and the guy who's sending
the signals out to the rest of the defense. What
impact has that had on the other ten guys. Yeah,
it showed up again. You know this Trevin is a
guy that's continued to grow in confidence in our system
and our schemes and getting guys lined up quickly, and
it's allowed Christian Roseboom to just be the crazy, wild haired,

(09:18):
you know, flying all over the place tackler that we brought.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
In here to be.

Speaker 5 (09:21):
And it was a great transition, was a great shift
by Agaro to switch those guys up roles, and it
gets Trevin on the field. When we go dime packages
and quarter packages, you keep Trevin out there and just
let him be big and fast. So that was a
great change that came out of our four game self scout,
you know, and said, hey, this is probably gonna be
a good shift for us, and felt like Trevin was

(09:43):
at a good place to be able to handle it.

Speaker 7 (09:45):
Collectively the last two weeks, Gravante Williams yesterday and then
h n the week before, and you've had these two
teams to combine fifty yards rushing the past two weeks.
Is that more about your guys technique and good tackling
or are you guys seeing something scomatic as far as
what works against the run with these other teams.

Speaker 5 (10:02):
It's just technique. It's just technique and commitment and discipline.
You know, we've talked about this a lot. Just having
the discipline to stay in your gap, fit the run
the way it's supposed to be, knock it off and
get off your block when it's time to get off
your block, block disruption when a guy shows up. You
see Trade Mehrik on the perimeter. When a receiver goes
to block him, he gets it and Trade knocks him

(10:24):
back into the run, so that the run has to
be bounced sideways and then you got to have pursuit.
But it's a commitment. It's a commitment to being disciplined
about how you play it. And we certainly have some
amazing players upfront that are getting it done.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
On the flip side, we're noticing too, Saviorly get Ttero McMillan.
Those guys seem very committed to blocking on the perimeter,
opening holes for the running game.

Speaker 5 (10:46):
Yeah, it's got to be all eleven. It's everybody from
the outside in, and it's also the quarterback carrying out
his fakes. If you carry out your fake, they don't
know if it's play action or boot, you know, And
you can just hold the backside a tick longer and
it allows reco to get downhill, allowed you but to
get to the to get to three or four yards
before he has to make his first cut.

Speaker 6 (11:04):
And coach quickly. Might we see j C Horn travel
with the best receiver at all? I know that one
of the comments I got, like, hey, man, jayce Holm
put him on a guy pick us, y put him
on pickings. So might we see him doing even more?

Speaker 3 (11:18):
We could? It's just that fits.

Speaker 5 (11:20):
When you're a Manda man team, all you got to
do is put your best receiver in the slot or
at number three in trips. And if you're not a
man team, Jc's not on him. So there's schematic there's
schematic limitations with what you can do unless you're just
gonna say, hey, we're gonna play five man rush cover one,
you know, and that's not really what we do.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
We mix it in.

Speaker 5 (11:39):
But jac will find his opportunities to find the best receiver.
And that was a part of it. And I got
to give Dallas credit. You know, they stayed in tempo.
They just got to the ball. George Pickens was on
one side. You can't flip corners in the middle of
a play when you're at the line of scrimmage. So
great job by Shaddy and Cowboys by game planning us
and getting them into some situations right there. But I
just love Jac's competitiveness. He wants to go against the best.

(12:02):
It's like that in practice. He want to go gets
tet tyro McMillan all camp. I'm gonna show this kid what's.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Up, you know. And we got that new bat of town. Yep.

Speaker 5 (12:09):
And that's the type of challenge that we want. That's
the mentality we want to have.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Last question for me, it's an important one.

Speaker 7 (12:14):
What was the take on Tommy Trumble's attempted high jump?

Speaker 3 (12:17):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (12:18):
It was it was expected. So he's got a history
of the He's gonna hurdle, so do it. He likes
to go up in the air. Just I just tell him,
just come down with that ball, please.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
And then the the lateral play. So did Rico Dowdell
call for the lateral in that moment? I think that's
what I heard.

Speaker 5 (12:35):
Whatever it was, it can't happen, thank you, and uh
and that was you know. Rico took some accountability for it,
but I was like, eyex, come on now, like we
have plays designed that way.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
That was not one of them. That was not one
of them.

Speaker 5 (12:48):
I didn't want to play play dumb, you know. And
I say, oh, that was that was designed.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
It was not.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
So we're going to take care of that theave.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
I'll leave you with this right three and oh at
home looking for that first road win. That seems to
be kind of the the next building block.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Here, How does that happen?

Speaker 5 (13:04):
The field's gonna be one hundred by fifty three and
a third. The hash marks are the same, the logos
will be different in the end zones. You're gonna sleep
in a hotel you do on home. Okay, there's all
these things. There's so many controllables that we can control.
Take care of the ball first and foremost. Let's not
spot a team ten points seventeen points early on and
have to have to dig ourselves out or try to

(13:25):
come back and win a game late. Let's play good
football from start to finish. I'm gonna as a head coach.
I'm gonna look at all of our processes. I'm gonna
look at the travel schedule. I'm gonna look at what
time are we having our meetings in the hotels on
the road. Are we doing at the same time as
the home games. Let's just marry everything up as much
as possible and try to make it feel as comfortable
as possible. That's the challenge. I'm gonna do my part.

(13:48):
But also we just have to play good, consistent football
on the road. Could you imagine being the Chiefs playing
at Sunday night, Monday night, Thursday night, here, there, everywhere primetime.
Their schedule is constantly being met with and over the
years they've found a way to win by playing really
good football, by taking care of it, running the ball,
eliminating explosives, and flipping the field on special teams. That's

(14:09):
what it's gonna come down to. So we got to
make sure we take the show on the road.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Keep the non negotiables the same. Dave Canalis, Panthers head coach,
Thank you. This is the Carolina Panthers Radio network.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
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Speaker 1 (14:27):
Shotgut step thanks to doubt on y'all back pedaling flush
to his left, gros down field.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
Down on wide open ten five touchdown.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Rico dono fuckle up.

Speaker 8 (14:38):
Gotta give all the credits to those guys up front again.
They came out there again week the week. Allow for
me to go out there and do what I do.
The main thing just wanted to get that win. Big
big for me, but also big for the organization, you know,
getting the five hundred and protecting the home field three
and noo at home. So just got to continue to
keep building them. But definitely was huge getting that win.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
Panther Talk continues on the Carolina Panthers Radio Network.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
With jim's Oki and Eugene Robinson and he shrop back
here on Panther Talk carolineas won three out of four,
Momentum is building. Yes, they've got to go on the
road and that's going to be the next step. You
heard from Dave Canalis earlier. But one thing that I
thought of after the Miami game crystallized even more after
the Dallas game. This is a team that is finding

(15:23):
ways to handle in game adversity. Jim, in years past
where a couple of early mistakes, could have snowballed No.
Seventeen to nothing against Miami. Maybe last year gets out
of hand and you're never back into that game. They
overcome some early turnovers against Dallas, they had an early
turnover and yet start to overcome that, figure out a
way to get close before halftime, take the lead on

(15:46):
the first drive of the third quarter. That tells you that,
you know, one, there's more talent across the board where
you can overcome that. But I think it also speaks
to the resolve that we're starting to see put in
place here in Carolina.

Speaker 7 (15:59):
Yeah, and I think you know, coaches always talk about
having the same process win or lose and so forth,
and that's important, but there's something about seeing the tangible
success and reward that comes when things play out, and
that once you've got that confidence that you can come
back from seventeen to nothing, you don't rattle or you
don't it's a kind of a different area, and not
with all players, but with some players, like they start

(16:21):
think about next week or losing interest or whatever. And
we see it in college and pro football. Sometimes when
you've got a team that is bonded together, that will
not allow that to happen, and we'll fight back and
get back into a game and not give up.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
That's the difference.

Speaker 7 (16:34):
And there are some teams in this league that fall
behind seventeen nothing and you just feel like, you know,
they just don't have what it takes to come back.
So Eugene, I think there's something about being able to
do things like that. It's like the old Jake Delane
two thousand and three season, when you come off the
bench and you rally and you beat Jacksonville opening week.
That's set the tone for a season for that team
that obviously went on to all way to the super Bowl.

Speaker 6 (16:54):
You know, I think it's part of the Maybe the
DNA of the path is a little bit. We forget
about that Cardinals game. That Cardinals game was twenty seven
to twenty two, but they were they were getting blown
out in that first half, I mean destroyed, and they
came all the way back within really a possession to
go ahead to win the game. And so if they
had a chance to actually win the game, and I

(17:16):
thought there was no chest. So it speaks to me
about something in that locker room. It speaks to me
about something about the fabric the DNA of this team
because you mentioned seventeen nothing with the I think with
the with the Dolphins, whatever it was, and then to
actually beat the Dolphins, and then this game along with
the Dallas combeence, when everybody, most pundits said well, Dallas

(17:39):
is going to win the game, Dallas gonna win the game.
They thought Dallas would win the game because you know,
Dallas to score points, you know, and that was not
the case at all. So as part of the DNA
is this team is not afraid to come back because
they're built that way.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Again, we've played six games and there's a lot more
season to play. But the two emerging trends that I
see that bode well going forward. One, you look at
the Panthers rushing attack. They go into Week seven number
one in the NFL in rushing yards. They're in the
top five in rushing yards per game. What they've been

(18:13):
able to do on first down rushing the ball the
last couple of weeks, it's set up their entire offense.
And then on the flip side, this may come as
a system shock if you haven't followed closely the Panthers.
At the end of Sunday, they're a top ten rushing
defense right now. Oh wow, Yes, it's a top ten

(18:35):
rushing defense. And you know, outside of that one big
run they gave up against Jacksonville, they were actually pretty
good against the run against Arizona. The New England game
was lost more on field position than total yards. They
handcuffed out Atlanta. Miami had nineteen yards rushing and then
Dallas Javonte Williams, who was the third leading rusher in

(18:56):
the NFL coming into the game. I mean, they put
the shackles on him.

Speaker 6 (19:00):
Thirty one yards to Dallas. I mean, that's absolutely incredible.
What you've effectively done is you've taken away fifty percent
of what they do offensively. I mean, and now you
tell them, okay, beat me passing the ball, and they
couldn't do it. So I'm just sadding you're absolutely right.
This team is a really run stopping team and they
deserve it because they've been playing life out.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
You're starting to see the formula for wins come into place.
And then the other part of that take care of
the ball. When the Panthers don't beat themselves, they give
themselves a chance. That's the obvious one. We'll be back
here on the Carolina Panthers Radio Network.

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Speaker 2 (20:08):
Welcome to the stew and the crew. We back at it.
Week six.

Speaker 9 (20:12):
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Speaker 10 (20:23):
I gotta I gotta say one thing and probably at
least once a month, there's a conversation in my household
about when we went.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
To Krispy Krean.

Speaker 10 (20:35):
There was obviously there several times we went to Chrispy Krean,
but obviously the one same famous moment that hot and
Ready was was pretty famous that went viral before viral
was even a thing. To be honest, we might have
kicked off the viral Soka. We might have Dad trains
and Dad turned pictures on the sideline.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
So yeah, we did all that. We started a lot.

Speaker 10 (20:57):
But the story that always comes up is this that
brought into your car and you you was you was listen,
give give us give me your version of that stary okay,
because I'd be arguing with Kenya all the times of
n If you are listening, this is how it went down.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
All right.

Speaker 10 (21:20):
So we went to go eat after practice out and
and I forgot where we went to. We got wings.
We went to Buffalo Wing. Buffalo Wings, that's what it was.
So we got Buffalo Wings. Were walking back to your car,
d Loo and told drove together and Dlo's truck and
then me and Kenya the premium custom super customized, very

(21:47):
very beautiful truck, very nice. And then we rode in
your car. You had your audie, me and Kenyon. Kenyon
were sitting in the front seat. I was sitting in
the backseat. But on the way to both of our vehicles,
Kenyon was walking underneath trees and walking in between trees.
He was swerving in and out. And it was during
the summertime, right during summertime, because it was training camp.

(22:08):
We were out in Spartanburg, and you said, hey, you're
walking under those trees, don't you bring no bug into
my car? Yes, and Kenyon said, man, I ain't gonna
bring no bug in your car. And we get in
the car getting ready to go get out dessert, which
is Krispy Kreme. That was a custom that the running

(22:28):
backs always had to do because that hot and Ready.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Sign was on.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
We got it.

Speaker 10 (22:33):
We should have gotten a sponsorship, a much greater sponsorship.
Now that we're here, right, we still got a chance.
N I l baby, come on, baby, But we go.
D Lo and Tobart they in the in the very
customized car in front of us. They're ordering for however
many Tobert Hotting Ready boxes he got we were waiting

(22:59):
about he got at least two boxes. Yeah, yeah, at
least and that's just for him. But we're waiting and
behind them, I'm in the back seat, in the middle
seat so I can see everything in front of me.
Stu driving, and then Kenyon and a passenger while Dlo
and Tobert are ordering at the box. Kenyon looks down

(23:22):
and said oh.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
Stu said, oh what.

Speaker 10 (23:28):
Kenyon felt something crawl on his neck said oh. He
jumps out of the car. Yeah, like no hesitation. No,
there's nobody moved. There's nobody that I've seen move faster
getting out of a seatbelt opening the door in five
yards away. Then I seen Kenyon move until I saw

(23:49):
the way Kenyon sprinted out and you sprinted out with
the same exact speed. But guess what, ladies and gentlemen,
we were in the lane to order the the car
was not put into park, and lo.

Speaker 9 (24:05):
And behold, I jump out the driver's seat, Ladies and gentlemen.
I was driving the audi and we was going in
a drive through lane, and Crispy Kreams and di'angelo Williams
until October were parked right in front of us. And
as I see the young man, Kenny Young Barner jump
out of his seat, I knew what time it was.
He didn't need to say anything because I said, do

(24:25):
not get your butt in this car with that spider
on you.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Because I didn't know there's a spider on you.

Speaker 9 (24:31):
You said it ain't no spider on me, so I
gave you the benefit of the doubt, right and lo
and behold, he jumped out.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
And guess what I did. I jumped out too.

Speaker 9 (24:38):
I jumped out the car, okay, because I ain't trying
to be running those spiders Okay, now this is this
is pre married Stew, pre father Stew. So my instincts
as far as protection and protecting the people that are
around me, that wasn't that.

Speaker 10 (24:56):
It went out the dough in the same way you
went out. I went out the dough boy. So I'm
in the back seat. He in the back seat, yell yelling, hey.

Speaker 9 (25:05):
Hey, Ry, we are rolling. And so immediately I realized
the car was in drive, and I hear a boom.
And luckily we wouldn't like in dry like we wouldn't
go in at certain niles for hour or anything.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
But we hit the back of the Angelo's car.

Speaker 9 (25:27):
He was nice enough to not really give me any
any uh, you know he was he wasn't mad, but
we all was dying laughing in the drive through of
Krispy Kremes and Spartanburg.

Speaker 10 (25:41):
Sparkle City is what they call it. Don't forget about
told having the window down. He heard the car hit
the Angelo's truck, but rolled the window up like somebody
was mugging him or something.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Shoot, let's go over here. I gotta roll the window,
nah man.

Speaker 9 (26:05):
But I got back in the car and I put it,
you know, I put the brake on it, and so
sometimes that happens sometimes the bees like that. You know,
you have your fears, but I want to let you
know I did overcome my fear of spider. Yeah, so
when I see a spider, I kill it. I kill
it with my hand, No, with your hand. Yeah. And
you've come along with It's because of fatherhood. Man, You've

(26:27):
come a long way. You know when you become a diaper. Yeah,
when you become a father, it just changed your whole mindset.

Speaker 10 (26:33):
Like it's either it's either my kids or you or
the spider.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Gotta go, Spider Gotta go, Spider Gotta go.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
You can listen to Stu and the crew on the
iHeartRadio app, Panthers dot com and Team app, Apple podcast,
or Spotify. This is Panther Talk. Coke. This Zero's the
great taste of Coca Cola because fan is thirsty work.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Victory Monday rolls on here on Panther Talk and he's sharp. Jimzoki,
Eugene Robinson, and we bring in a man of all seasons.
He's one of the finest broadcasters in the business. He
is the voice of the Chicago Bulls. He does play
by play for Major League baseball in the NFL on Fox.
Also moonlights as a DJ.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
Where do you find the time?

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Where does he find the time? And he's one of
the best peoples and somebody that I'm proud to call
a friend. Adam Amin who had the call for Panthers
Cowboys yesterday on Fox, joining us Adam before we dive
into the game, we talked. I think Wednesday night you
were driving from Detroit to go back home to Chicago,
and I believe that was just the start of your

(27:46):
wild travels. Walk us through how you got to Charlotte.

Speaker 11 (27:52):
You and I spent a good chunk of time in
the car on the phone together. So first off, I
appreciate it. For those who don't understand this, this is
how we get as much great information as possible, not
just from reading things and you know what the great
writers write during the course of the week. But we
talked to the people who were on the ground with
the team, and Anesia was more than gracious with his

(28:13):
time to help out with that, especially in a really
busy week. But I got home on Wednesday night, I
kind of reset myself once we knew we were going
to a game five in that Seattle Detroit Division series.
So Thursday you packed for the weekend, ready to go
head out to Seattle on Thursday night. We do the game.
Friday games at five o'clock Pacific time at eight o'clock Eastern.

(28:36):
I've got a flight right around midnight, so I'm morena,
more than likely I'm going to be okay, even if
the game goes particularly long. We did feel some tension
aside from the game itself, about hey, do we need
to rebook some flights or anything, or do we need
to call some travel people or anything. But we get
done with the game right around ten pm Pacific time.

(28:56):
I made it to the airport and plenty of time,
but I had a red eye flights gin eduled to Charlotte.
I didn't really have time to stop anywhere in between.
I didn't have a chance to go home, so I
knew I was flying straight to Charlotte. And needless to say,
very difficult to get to sleep after a game like
we saw on Friday night fifteen fifteen fifteen innings, one
of the great playoff baseball games of my lifetime, certainly,

(29:18):
and I was fortunate enough to be there for it,
So you know, hard to really get to sleep when
you're wired after that on the plane, so not a
whole lot of sleep on the plane. Got to Charlotte
at about eight am on Saturday morning, got settled in,
took about an hour and a half and a half,
woke up, got some work done, Still felt a little tired,
so went back to sleep for about another hour, and
then spent rest of the day kind of prepping and

(29:40):
going through my notes. And you know, we had our
production meeting with Greg and Pam and our great crew,
and then Sunday we call the game. We get that
awesome game and a great finish, a great NFL finish,
and get to finally go home. And I woke up
today after my first full night of sleep in about
two and a half week. So very happy that. So

(30:00):
we got a chance to experience all that this weekend.

Speaker 7 (30:02):
Very nice, Adams, Jim and yeah, the broadcasters play by
play guys, two favorite topics, the game and the travel
are the two biggest things. Always working through and just
your perspective on calling the game when it involves to
Dallas Cowboys, because you know, love them or hate them,
they're going to be a focal point obviously for a
big chunk of the nation. I know, you guys had
a big swath of the nation as far as what

(30:22):
was being carried. But then you have Greg Olsen in
the booth obviously, so there's definitely a panther's presence. But
when you have a game like that as a broadcaster,
how do you kind of treat that? Knowing that you know,
by and large it is, you know, one of those
national brands that everyone, whether they win or not, are
gonna be interested to hearing about.

Speaker 11 (30:38):
Yeah, people are always curious if nothing else, like, oh,
what are the Cowboys doing?

Speaker 8 (30:42):
That?

Speaker 11 (30:42):
That's the that's seemingly for an NFL fan who doesn't
even like the Cowboys, that seems to be the baseline question, Well,
what are they doing? Are they good?

Speaker 4 (30:49):
And are they bad?

Speaker 11 (30:50):
What do they do last week? Just because so much
of the conversation centers around it, whether that's fare or not,
whether that's warranted or not. You know, like, this is
still a brand name team, the same way that you
know Anisha's Yankees are. You know, like the Yankees are
a brand name team in baseball. You know, the Lakers
are a brand name team in basketball. People will talk
about those particular organizations because of the branding of that,

(31:12):
and again, whether that's fair or not warranted or not,
it is kind of how it is in a modern
media landscape. So naturally, when people flip through the channels,
we did happen to have, like, you know, the lead
game in that one o'clock window for Fox. So I'm
sure a lot of people were just casually flipping between
the games that they had on their TVs, and that
happened to be the one that was on a majority

(31:33):
of them, So they're gonna be curious about it. And
we wanted to approach the Panthers knowing that we had
a larger audience. This is probably one of the biggest
audiences that a Carolina game has had this season, so
we wanted to approach it as such and talk about
the roller coaster start to the year and kind of
give a little bit of big picture on what the
Panthers were doing. And obviously the main storyline was Rico

(31:56):
because of his connectivity to the Cowboys and how that
ended last year and the fun quotes that that led
to the you know, getting ready for this particular week,
I thought, you know, it was really fun to get
a chance to see Carolina in that atmosphere and for
them to play as well as they did against the
team like Dallas, that's going to have a lot of
eyeballs week to week.

Speaker 6 (32:15):
This is Eugene Adam. What does this game say? We're
gonna stay on branding. What does this game say about
the Cowboys and what does it say about the Panthers.

Speaker 11 (32:24):
I think it says about the Cowboys. What kind of
has been said for quite some time, for the better
part of the for a year, I would say a
calendar year. You know, the about midway through the year
last year is when Dak Prescott got hurt. I happened
to do the game where he was in Atlanta and
he heard his hamstring and that pretty much entered his
season after that. And you know, they scuffled through the

(32:44):
last you know, two months of the season last year
and the drama that surrounds them, the Parsons trade issue.
This year. You know, there's there's a lot surrounding them,
and I think people still don't know what the identity
of this team is. And and to be fair, there
are injuries. They've had offensive line injury. They've had their
number one receiver out for a chunk of the year
in CD Lamb they have had injuries on the defensive

(33:06):
side at various points of the year. So that if
we're taking away the branding and I love that you
said that, Eugene, Like, let's take that away and just
look at it as a football team. Yeah, they deal
with a lot of the same problems that other teams do,
and I think the expectation is different because of the branding.
But if you just look at them as a football
team in an NFL vacuum, they're a mid level team

(33:26):
like a lot of teams are right now. They're trying
to find their footing. They're trying to find the right personnel,
they're trying to figure out, you know, play calling duties.
They're trying to figure out what works for this quarterback.
Remember Brian Schottenheimer, who's called plays a long time. It's
still a first year head coach. So there's a lot
that goes into that. So if you step back and
kind of give it more of a thirty thousand foot
perspective without the branding attached to it, I think it's
a team that's in flux, like a lot of teams

(33:48):
across the NFL. Meanwhile, the Panthers, because of what again,
expectation versus reality, right, is a lot of the conversation
around most teams, like what do we expect of them?
And what are they doing? So expect very little from
Carolina and we see them performing well, what is it now?
Three of their last four they've won. They come back again.
I don't care if it's the Dolphins. I don't care

(34:09):
if it's a bad Dolphins team. Miami played pretty well
against the Chargers yesterday for that game too, so you know,
so let's give credit where credits to the Panthers made
a great comeback last week, opened some eyes. Our friend
Eric Collins maybe had a little bit to do with
that as well. Elver and Charlotte my buddy who does
a great job with the Hornets, like, you know, like
hyping them up a little bit and giving them some love,

(34:29):
and rightfully so. And to do it on a net
more national stage or a more visible stage yesterday in
the fashion that they did it, they hung with the team.
Greg said it he wasn't sure if Carolina was built
for a shootout, And you know what, they went punch
for punch with a really good offense and made some
great defensive stops late in that game. When both defenses
were clearly tired, and I thought the last drive was

(34:52):
excellent and Greg pointed it out too, and he was right.
That's one of the biggest decisions that Dave Canalis has
ever made to go for it on the plus forty
all that play, Bryce Young had a Hunter Renfro locked
in read the coverage, made a great decision which is
starting to compound a little bit more for him, and
then you finish the game on a big stage like that.
That's worthy of a great discussion around this team.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
We're talking with Adam Amain from Fox Sports. Adam, stay
with that theme of branding, because when the Panthers play
in a higher visibility window like they did on Sunday,
playing a team like the Cowboys, you have a chance
to kind of change your image as a franchise, as
a team. Yes, it's one game, but as you said,
you've now won three out of four. There is some

(35:34):
budding momentum. If you're a casual fan, you're not familiar
with the ins and outs and the intricacies day to
day of the Carolina Panthers, you watch that game, what
do you come away with in terms of feeling your
way about the Carolina Panthers. Moving forward here, I think.

Speaker 11 (35:54):
So much of the conversation in the NFL, and rightfully so,
centers around the quarterback coach slash quarterback play caller relationship.
And to me, this is a relationship that is starting
to find some trust between both parties, between Canallis and Young.
And I'm sure there have been questions. I've had questions
about it in the last year. I had Carolina late

(36:14):
in the season last year where they played really well,
by the way against the eventual Super Bowl champion Eagles,
took him down to the wire, a couple of plays
here and there, Lee get dropped here and there, and
all of a sudden they're taking down Philly. Last year.
You know, they played well last year, but there were
some questions about what is Bryce Young a capable of
physically be capable of in terms of running an offense,

(36:35):
and see, maybe what kind of trust is Dave Canalis
going to eventually have in his quarterback. And these are
both third year guys, essentially right as play callers. Canalis
did one year in Tampa, two years now, second year
now in Carolina. Bryce Bryce is in his third year
as a starting quarterback in this league. And I think
when you get a little bit more trust between the

(36:56):
two parties, you're willing to make the type of decisions
that Canal has made yesterday on fourth down, because that's
in a lot of years. Maybe less so now because
of how much more aggressive play callers are in the NFL.
But you know, even a few years ago, there were
plenty of coaches of a high majority of them, that
would have said, well, we're at the plus forty, I

(37:16):
don't trust my kicker to make a fifty eight yard
field goal, which is also a big change in the
NFL now, and I'm gonna pooch punt. I'm going to
try to pin my pin the opposing offense deep, and
I'm going to try to play defense for you know,
sixty yards and hope they don't get into field goal range.
But the combination of decision making, trust with Bryce Young

(37:37):
letting him, you know, eat a little bit, we did
listen to a lot of play you know, checks at
the line. I think that's been a really fun thing
to listen to. Anytime you get a quarterback who's kind
of working left and right across the line of scrimmage
and making his calls and making his checks. Bryce seems
to be doing that at a more confident level. I
love hearing quarterbacks go we're good, We're good. You know that,

(37:57):
And that's not something that comes easily. And you know,
ten years ago, you wouldn't probably have Bryce Young in
this situation. You'd probably be sitting behind a veteran. You
might be sitting behind Andy Dalton. So I think now
getting into year three for both of these guys as
play caller and quarterback, into year two with this combination
now in this system, getting more comfort. Obviously, the talent
around him is better. The offensive line got better last year.

(38:20):
They have some depth now despite the injuries. You know,
you got a really talented wide receiver. It's great to
see Tetaroa get get some love in the end zone
a couple of times yesterday, obviously, dowd Ol Hubbard. They've
had great stretches over the last year, plus Chuba last
year and Rico obviously these last couple of weeks. All
of those things play into combination and in concert to
start to see some development. I think that's the narrative

(38:42):
that is probably gonna stick. Obviously, they have to have
some success. They're gonna have some tough games going forward.
They play Buffalo in a couple of weeks, like there's
gonna be more tests, but I think there's a nice
narrative building around. This is probably a young, up and
coming team that's starting to figure some things out.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Feel like it.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Adam, get some sleep, my friend.

Speaker 11 (39:02):
Absolutely, Buddy. I appreciate you guys.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
Thanks all right, Adam, I mean from Fox Sports joining us.
Crazy week of travel from him, Game five Tigers, Mariners,
fifteen innings and then cross country coming to Charlotte gets
another barn burner down to the wire with the Cowboys.
Panthers on Sunday afternoon. Panther Talk continues after this on
the Carolina Panthers or Radio network.

Speaker 4 (39:28):
Panther Talk continues on the Carolina Panthers Radio Network.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
These roped Jim Zochie, Eugene Robinson. One component for the
Panthers that was a question mark coming into the season,
And to be fair, as rosy as things are, we
have to tell the truth too. The pass rush, and
that has been lacking at times this season. They had
the three sacks against Miami, in all the other games

(39:58):
they only had two, and you know there were times
Luke Keickley brought it up on the broadcast Sunday Eugene
where Dak Prescott had a lot of time and was
pretty comfortable most of the game in the pocket.

Speaker 6 (40:09):
He was, and but what he wasn't the most comfortable
and neither was the running back, was when you had
a eight man front guys up in the lens or
even the seven man front guys up in there on
that first and second down ready to stop that run,
there was no way to run the ball. You could
take that same that same position on third down or
second down and long and get those guys up there

(40:30):
and then blitz that quarterback and or pull them back,
pull the linebackers back. You can mess around with them
because when you're winning the running game, now you can
affect the passing game. This imagines you got those guys
up in there, all those guys up in there, and
now they're going.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
Like this, who got who? Who got who? Who got who?

Speaker 6 (40:47):
And somebody comes off then edge or somebody comes inside,
or somebody comes on the twist. They're not ready for it.
They're not ready for it. So I say, coach gerald Man,
go ahead, bliss these cast like as no.

Speaker 7 (40:57):
Tomorrow justin fields was sacked nine times in that game
in London against Denver yesterday, so they got to him
and that's a good defense obviously Denver, So the Panthers
could probably get some sacks there. The one thing you
do have to be obviously aware of is he's a
fairly good runner. So if you miss, you've got it
prepared for the fact that he could take off on
you have some spy or have some backup plan.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
If you don't get to.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
Him, that may be a game where maybe you don't
blitz as much because a lot of those sacks with
Fields have come just from him holding onto the ball
too long and you blitz. Now, maybe you give him
a crease or a window to escape versus okay, keep
him in the pocket and he holds onto the ball
too long and then all of a sudden a lot
of those were covered sacks.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
Well, I would do a lot of twist stuffs.

Speaker 6 (41:38):
I'm gonna be doing a lot of stuff, a lot
of games to get in this young man's face.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
All right, we'll see.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
Justin Fields has been sacked fourteen times in the last
two weeks. Off to New Jersey we go.

Speaker 4 (41:49):
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