October 15, 2024 • 41 mins
This week on Panther Talk, Anish, Jim and Eugene talk with Dave Canales, Steve Beuerlein, and Craig Hoffman about the Panthers week 6 loss to the Falcons, this weekend's game against Washington and so much more!
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Panthers to the line quickly, Galton in the shotgun ten seconds,
handy pumps, floats went back to the end. So Cold
breaks it in and the Panthers get the t d.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
It was a little bit shaky to start. The guys
settled in and played fine football.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
You know.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
We were able to, you know, maintain some drives. We
were able to have the protection that we needed in
different situations, and so I was fired up about the
guys just kind of settling into a group, and I
could feel them playing together even as we went into
that last drive a one score game. You know, being
able to run the ball the way we did with
those guys in there was fantastic. So I'm really encouraged
about this group and the way that they were able
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to finish.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
And now, along with Jim Zochi and Eugene Upson, hears
a Niche Shruff with Panther Talk live from the Panthers
broadcast facility at Bank of America Stio.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Tough one on Sunday, Panthers right there with the Falcons
most of the game, one score game, driving to tie
before an untimely interception which really turned the game midway
through the fourth quarter. On the defensive side, injuries have
continued to mount, and maybe we get a little bit
of good news from head coach Dave Canalis. Let's bring
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in Dave Canallis, head coach of the Carolina Panthers. Coach
that defense. I know it's been beat up. The injuries
have taken a toll. Do you have any good news
for us on the injury front.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
You know, we still got a couple of things, a
couple of knicks here and there that we're dealing with.
But I think in general, you know, the picture is
pretty clear of the things we got to you know,
focus and emphasize. You know, it's the run game. I
thought we did a better job with our with our
you know, our matches and the way that we communicated
in the past game outside of a few plays that
got away, you know, but it's just about you know,
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getting back to the basics of it and playing good
team football. On that side, and so you know, hopefully
we can just get right back on track with this
week against the Commanders.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
What's that challenge like when you are missing you know,
so many pieces that you guys are pegged in and
penciled in sort of to be a part of that
core on defense, and now you got some moving parts.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah, the challenges to get to good football, the challenges
to play as a team and to be able to
fit off each other and trust each other, continue to
play hard and finish, and the effort is there. You know,
these guys have the spirit to continue to just you know,
hone in on the things that we need to fix,
you know, which are things that we've looked at today
and talk to the players about. So the challenge is
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getting everybody on the same page and executing down in
and down out.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
After the game, Cuba mentioned that he articulated that we're
not that far away. We're really close, and you kept
saying that, and so I would like to know, coach,
what does he mean because I look at some of
the plays that, oh man, if they make this play
is a different story. If they make this plays a
different story. So what does close mean in your opinion?
Speaker 3 (03:15):
To me, it's about execution. It's about knowing the base
the base calls of our offense, our defense, and our
special teams, and the premium being execution, the premium being
assignment football. The fundamentals of it, the blocking, the tackling,
the throwing and catching, you know, taking care of the ball.
Those are all the basic things that I talk about
on a weekly basis. Where we were taking strides, but
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that has to be consistent. We have to have the
consistency to finish drives, finish haves and finish games, playing
great football all the way throughout, you know, where it
can't be patches of it, you know. And so that's
the challenge for the whole group, the coaching staff as
well as the players. The challenge for us is to
is to be studs about it and to have that
mental discipline to get right back to work in and
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focus on those things.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
And to follow up on what Eugene started with with
Cuba there maybe your most consistent player, certainly one of
the most consistent ones. Not only that, but what did
you think about Brady Christensen filling in Josh Niman yesterday
as far as the offensive line and how they performed
stepping into starter roles.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
You know, we really expected those guys to show up
and take the next step for us, and they did that.
You know, they had it. Was it a perfect game, No,
but didn't give up any sacks. We were able to
run the ball once we settled in, and we played
our style of ball on the offensive side outside of
you know, a couple of those turnovers, and they gave
us a chance to just continue to bring to life
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the things that we're trying to build off of.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Coach, we talked after the game yesterday about how this
rookie class was coming along. In Jonathan Brook's second round pick,
you said at your press conference earlier today, you might
have a decision on him by day's end. I'm wondering
has his window opened. Is there any update there?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yeah, there's certainly something that we're excited about. And again
we're just trying to make sure we take all the
information necessary. But it certainly looks like he's going to
be out there practicing this week, which is exciting. And
at the same time, you know, it's like this is
about playing against the Commanders, So we open up a
window for Jonathan. We'll do the right thing first and
foremost for him, and then to see in which way
that he can come in and help us potentially at
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some point.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
And Coach, when you got fins washing the film, were
there any opportunities for interceptions out there? I thought that
maybe Horn and maybe even was had a chance to
go ahead and maybe turn the tide of the game
a little bit or may make a big impactful play.
Did you see it that way as you were able
to watch the film, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
I think you said it right. You know, there were
a couple of opportunities, and more and more opportunities will
come up for guys as we're in position, as the
communication is great, you know. And then of course just
those effort plays, Eugene that you've seen over the years,
where you may not be at the point of attack,
but if you're going one hundred miles an hour, yeah,
and that ball tipped up, then you're there for the
tips and overthrows, which are things that we got to
take advantage of.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
And he's talking about the rookie class. Trevin Wallace only
six games into his regular season, taking out a lot
of responsibility with obviously both the shack and Josie out,
and Josie will be back at some point. But how's
he doing with all that communication? You talk about the
extra responsibilities that come with him not only being a
rookie player but also having to be a focal point
like that.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
It's a great challenge for Trevin to get in there
and make those calls and to continue to be able
to play fast once he's made the calls and trust
his instincts. And he's taking the challenge on bull right
head on, and he's been a stud about it, and
he's he's asking all the right questions. We're throwing a
bunch of things at him, and again, there's no substitute
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for just being out there on the field and seeing
it happen live. And these are so valuable for Trevin
as for the rest of this season as we continue
to build our football team, but for sure for his
future long term.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Coach, I want to bring up a player black share.
I see him on special teams? What does he give you?
I know, special team he seems electric to me, But
what does also does he give you him? Might we
see him a little bit more on the offensive side of.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
The ball, you know?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Right now, the focus is to continue to build our system,
you know, and that starts with Cuba and getting Miles,
you know, is a high priority. Getting Miles Sanders the ball,
you know, trying to find ways when he touches it.
He's electric when we give him space, you know. And
and that's the challenge for us as it's staff to
continue to find opportunities for him, and and Raheem will
get his chances, you know, as the opportunities come up.
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But the focus right now is on Cheubah and Miles.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Coach, third of the way through your first season as
an NFL head coach, what would you say is kind
of you know, the one thing that maybe has opened
your eyes to what that entails being a head coach
at this level, something that you can't prepare for you
just have to go through.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yeah, it's the discipline to have consistency in our messaging
about the fundamentals of our football, our style, building a culture,
building a foundation for our team of non negotiables. And
those are the things that I can just come back
to every Monday, is what happened on the things that
matter to us the most yesterday. And if I can
be that consistent messaging for our guys to keep our
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focus and energy on those areas offense, defense, and special
teams to get a style of football that we're looking for.
Then I know that I can handle that. You know,
anything beyond that, you know, it's been really it's really challenging.
So I just have to stay focused on those things
and keep our team pushing in that direction. As we know,
we have a long season with a lot of games.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
You mentioned playing well in patches, but not four quarters. Really,
maybe the highlight moment of the game might have been
right before halftime, getting that touchdown just before the half
with xavierly Get getting it. But in that drive it
was Jalen Cocher, an undrafted rookie, making a couple of catches,
JT Sanders making a catch in there, and then finished
off with a touchdown to Xavier. I mean, you're down
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some veteran guys, but to have Andy there throwing the
ball to those young guys that they stepped up at
certain times in the game.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
It's really exciting to see those guys that we can
count on, you know, in critical situations, and to see
our system come to life with those guys executing. You know,
we're going to continue to ask them to build, to
build on their repertoire to be more more detailed, more
disciplined about the way we go dry play in and
play out, And those are the challenges for these guys.
But I love that when the ball comes their direction,
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by and large, right now for the last couple of games,
these guys are making plays for us, which is what
we're counting.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
On for them.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Coach, has the injuries has that affected the character of
the game, Like typically, you know, there's an attitude that
kind of farcesself. Whether somebody a team is nasty fast,
has the injuries kind of you know, stunn up that
a little bit at all, or what do you see?
Speaker 3 (09:40):
I honestly think it's kind of strengthened our beliefs about
what we do because we get guys that keep stepping in,
playing hard, playing with great effort, really just engaged and
all in on what we're doing. And to show examples
of guys, you know, the guys that have gotten injured,
you know, to those to point to those examples and
show these next guys that come in when you get
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these valuable reps, are you going to represent us the
right way just like the guys that were in there
before you. And so for me, it challenges us in
the right way, and I think it strengthens us long
term for people to come in here. Can we maintain
the standards of what we're looking for and for sure
the execution we're trying to get. But I think the challenges,
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I think only make you stronger.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Dave Canalis, head coach of the Carolina Panthers, Coach, we
appreciate your time as always, thank you, and coach, I'll
say this before we go to break because the climate
that we live in as media, as fans, as the
comments section of anything, is hyperbole is where you go first, right,
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You want to go to the extreme. You want to
jump to the extreme, greatest thing ever, worst thing ever.
You know, there's no gray area, there's no nuance. The
reality is it needs to be applied. We watched this
team last year, Jim, and there were games you're down
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two scores, you never felt like you had a chance.
Let's be honest. They got down two scores in the
first half against Atlanta, you felt like they had a chance.
They scored before halftime. You brought that up with coach.
Fourth quarter, they're driving in Panthers terror in Falcons territory.
Unfortunate pick, but they're in that game. Offensively, this is
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a much better team, and I do think Dave Canalis
when he made that decision to put Andy Dalton in,
you can kind of get a sense of what this
offense is now. There's pieces to work with. Defensively, you're
just up against a really brutal reality right now that
your key guys are injured, and it's not just one
or two, it's about seven.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
You've got a good number of practice squad guys, and
you even got people from other teams practice squads that
are playing key rose they're starting, and they're playing a
lot of reps out there right now, and you're just
trying to hold the Ford down until some of the
guys come back. Derek Brown won't be one of them,
Shack Thompson won't be one of them coming back this year.
But in the meanwhile, yeah, you got to keep playing football,
and you have to develop your young guys. They have
to grow up a little bit faster. But the reality
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is at the highest level of football, somebody like Kirk
Cousins knows his way around the defense, and so maybe
if you're playing Spencer Ratler in his first game, you'll
get away with a few things.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
Not so much with Kirk Gibson, not so much with.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
The way Atlanta can run the ball with the running
backs they have in their offensive line.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
A bunch of veterans there, Eugene.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
But I think you know that sometimes it's just a
bad matchup in terms of like who you're playing versus
where you are health wise with your roster on a
certain Sunday, that was a difficult spot for the defense
to be in yesterday with the personnel.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
And here's the other problem, not having your guys in there.
Everybody who replaces. You have to play some clean football,
and you have to make the opportunities. If you have
a chance for interception or to push the ball out,
you gotta get it done. You can't say, oh, I'll
get the next one. There's not gonna be a next one.
Cousins is too good. A team is just too good
at all. So you have to take advantage of the opportunities.
(13:02):
And that's where I thought that Tuba Hubbard was trying
to say, was take advantage of the opportunities. When that
play comes your way and you can make it, you
gotta make it. You can't say I'll wait till the
next one to get it done.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
I did want to ask you specifically. Gen know, there
are certain plays where just guys were completely uncovered. So
that's not like Atlanta played great ball. It's just easy
to find the guy that's standing wide open with his
arm up twenty yards down to the fiel. Kyle Pitt's
getting down the field deep. At one point, they would
run this motion, this kind of like whip motion around
the quarterback and then they would either throw to him
or misdirect, and the guys were just take one to
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be out a spot.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
How difficult is that to fix that?
Speaker 5 (13:36):
When it's something internal like that, where it's your communication
trying to identify those situations, that's.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Not hard to fix because everybody knows the assignment of
what guy you should be covering in zone. In man,
what's the problem is that when you get no pressure
on the quarterback and.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
Then that really becomes set and survey.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Oh yeah, when you get the chance to sit back
there and you're looking and you get a one two
a third read, that's too much. And then if nothing
happens and everybody breaks, you got a plaster as a defense.
Find a guy you trying to find a guy that
quarterback is too good and he's gonna find that open receiver.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I want to ask you this to Eugene because a
lot of the fans, you know, the question that they
wanted to know after the game was, you know the
drive where Andy Dalton threw the interception. It pass intended
for Ian Thomas. Cuba was running it, so well why
did they throw And you're kind of laughing because coaches
sequence plays and you set up the run for the
big pass. Now, fair criticism. And Andy Dalton it was
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the first one to man up and say, yeah, that
was on me. He had a couple of checkdown options.
I think he had Cuba underneath, they had Mingo underneath, right,
and he threw that ball into coverage to Ian Thomas.
The execution wasn't there. But part of the reason you
run the ball. You run the ball, You run the ball,
You soft it up the defense so you can throw that,
so you can throw the ball and get that big
explosive play. And so people are saying, well, well, why
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didn't you just keep running the football, because yeah, the
other your team is prepared for that too, Like, can
you just explain that to people who don't understand how
play calling and sequence works.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Your coach is setting him up. And the fact that
when Tuba's running the ball really hard, getting four yards
five yards, that's gonna get you into an eight man front.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
Typically stopped to run.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
And now when you have a play action pass, you
got one on one coverage and typically you're gonna get
a guy beating someone. But on that little bootleg play
that they had. Now, the great thing about it was,
you know, Ian Thomas was actually open when we started.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
He was open.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
No one's given the cornerback credit. He recognized the play.
He recognized that he didn't have to go ahead and
take the back on the backside screen. He flowed with
the play and he just outran Ian Thomas to the ball, no.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
Doubt about it.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
So I know what he saw and he Dalton because
he sees, oh he's open.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
I got my guy.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
The cornerback made a heck of a play because he
was trailing and then got on the front side of
Ian Thomas.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
All right, we got more to do here. On Panther
Talk on this Monday, we will hear Jim's interview with
Steve Berlin. Any flashbacks to ninety nine, right, Roco Berlin,
I feel like they had to score every time out
of nineteen ninety nine right with that defense.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
He did a lot to save the franchise in that
time when they needed a studying influence in that locker room.
Steve Burrline was really the ultimate team guy there for
a couple of years.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
You know, I've always thought he's been a great quarterback,
no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Still holds the franchise single season record for passing yards. Plus.
Craig Hoffman from Team nine to eighty in Washington, DC,
will join us to preview the Washington Commanders. Panther Talk
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Speaker 2 (16:41):
This is Panther Talk presented by Bosh power Tools.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Six weeks in Panthers Sitting at one and five. Dave
Canalis has talked a lot about team identity. It will
reveal itself defensively. I think it's tough to pin an
identity of any kind just because you haven't had your personnel. Offensively,
we're starting to see it. This O line has been
pretty good even with the injuries. Brady Christensen and Josh
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Niman played fairly well, but Dalton was not sacked in
that game. We're starting to see the run game. I
think if they're not behind multiple scores late, you can
stay with that run game longer too. But Hubbard is
third in the NFL in rushing yards. He is tenth
in rushing attempts. He's averaging better than five and a
half yards per carry. He is playing at an all
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pro level.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
He's hungry too. You can see it. He's hungry. He
wants the ball. Last week he had like ninety seven yards.
I mean, this dude, every time he touches the ball,
it is positive. And then he's also in the passing game.
Kind of reminds me of littk but Kaeprick because he's
getting some touches in the passing game. If I am
coach Kanals, i am hitching myself to this officeive line
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that who can block, and I'm giving them tuba the
ball and then I'm going to delegate that ball distributed
out there to my receivers. But it's gonna be for me.
It's gonna be that sixty five thirty five seventy thirty.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I'm running the rock.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
You gotta stop me, because one thing our offensive block
can do, no matter who's in there, they can block,
they understand the blocking combinations, and I'm gonna dare the
team get get it an eight man front. I double
dare you because now I can pick you off in
the passing game.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
And you know, having Ian Thomas back is gonna help
with that too, because you got a good blocking tight end.
It's what Ikey I think does better as far as
is it pass pro is it run blocking? Being a
road grader is what Ikey's better at.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
And it slows the game down. It shortens the game.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
Cuba's great at it, and the line's good at blocking it,
and it again it sets up to play action like
you talked about too, So yeah, I agree, I would
keep doing that. And the other thing about Cuba is
too when you hear him speak and you talked about
his interview with us after the game, it's like he's
got the leadership quality is that's like a team captain
kind of a guy, and somebody that culturally is what
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you want to have around here too.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah, and I think the challenge now too, as hopeful
as we're hopeful to get Jonathan Brooks back here in
the next couple of weeks. If you missed it, Dave
Canal said that his twenty one day window coming off
IR has begun. He will practice starting this week. This
rookie class that drive before halftime, Jim, you mentioned it,
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but first round pick League gets got a couple of touchdown,
He's made plays. He has caught some fifty to fifty balls.
That's why he was brought in. We're hopeful to see Brooks.
The second round pick. Trevin Wallace has been thrown into
the fire. Keeps getting better. Twenty four tackles in his
first two games as a Panther, the most by any
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Panther in his first two games where he started. Fourth
round pick, who am I missing here? Sanders career day
on Sunday, he had a good day. Shaw Smith Wade
the last couple of weeks starting to get in the mix.
What we need is we need last year's draft class
to start to step up. We know Bryce Young is
on the bench, but Jonathan Mingo's losing snaps to Jalen Coker.
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This is a second round pick out of all miss
We need to call DJ Johnson's name more on Sunday, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
No doubt about it.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
Because they're getting their opportunities and Eugenie I think you've
definitely reference us through the years. That opportunity comes and
if you're not ready for it, they'll give you a
little bit of time, but that moment will pass. And
just to use that example, Jalen Coker, undrafted rookie will
be taking your snaps. Yes, well, you know it's not
over yet. I mean, Jonathan Mingo has a long season
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ahead of him here, but at this moment, there are
some things about Coker right now where you'll get arrow
pointing up or errowpointing sideways are down.
Speaker 6 (20:48):
Coker is definitely a guy on the ascent right now.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
And don't forget three point two years is the average
tenure as an NFL player, and so three years and
if you don't get it together in those three years, sorry,
you're not gonna be here on the team. Draft picks,
free agents, you're not gonna be on the team because
this is a win business and you've got to perform.
And if you can't perform, let other people take your snaps.
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I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
Terris Marshall, beer Tis Marshall say, you.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Know, and so I I think it's odd a coach
he's in this thing. He has to rebuild a team,
and you got things you gotta do, and you got
guys that are out, and then you got guys you
wanted to step up, you know, and so you got
a lot of work. He coach Kannalis has a big
job ahead of him, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah, And I give him credit again. He said all
the right things. He hasn't made excuses for the injuries,
but they are real. And when those injuries happen, your
draft classes that you've stacked have become your depth. And well,
this twenty twenty four class, which was Dan Morgan's first
year in charge as GM, seems to be paying dividends,
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not getting a whole lot from the twenty twenty three
and twenty twenty two draft classes. As we speak, they're
still plenty of season left, two thirds of the season
still to go. When we come back, it's Jim's interview
with Steve Burline, plus we'll get a commander's preview from
Craig Hoffman later on Panther Talk presented by Bosh Power
Tools on the Carolina Panthers Radio Network.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
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Speaker 5 (22:21):
Quarterback Steve Berlin played in the NFL from nineteen eighty
seven to two thousand and three. Five of those years
were with Carolina from nineteen ninety six to two thousand
and While his tenure with the Panthers did not end dwell,
he now looks back with great memories of the great times.
And we talk about it all with the man who
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Speaker 2 (22:39):
Thirty Seasons of Panther Football, a celebration of the players, coaches,
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Speaker 1 (22:49):
Berlin under center Floyd does in motion right, Berlin takes
the snap. He's going to run it himself to one.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
That's Berline with them.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Burlin Berlin on a quarterback draw, and the Panthers have
won it on the last play.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
I think if you as a leader and a tough guy,
but you were very good. I mean, you led the
league in passing yards to one year with the Panthers
here too, but you also bailed this team out of
a tough situation with Kerry Collins as we look back
at that time and so forth, and you stepped right
in as a leader at a time when this franchise
needed their quarterback to step up and be president and
play good ball.
Speaker 7 (23:26):
Well, you know, I always have believed that, you know,
you've got to have a few qualities as a quarterback
in the NFL. Everybody's a little bit different, but you've
got to have a few qualities that you really stand
out in. And for me, you know, physically, I wasn't,
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you know, the big, stereotypical six foot four, six foot
five quarterback that can move and do all those kind
of things. That was a little bit more of, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
A scrapper.
Speaker 7 (23:58):
I would like to say, yes. And I knew that
my strengths were not only was I looked at myself
as a good passer, a guy that can make all
the throws and go to the right guys. But the
real strength areas were leadership and confidence. And I think
as a quarterback, those are two things that you have
to have to be successful at this level. And you know,
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being a leader always came very natural to me. I
always took it very seriously, always made it a very
high priority, and made it extremely you know important all
the different teams I played for, and especially when I
got my opportunity here to step in when Carrie went
through his tough times and I got that opportunity. I
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wanted my teammates to know that I was ready and
that don't worry about me, and if you trust me,
we're going to find a way to get this done.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Now.
Speaker 7 (24:51):
We you know, we always came up a little bit
short when you look at the big picture. We were
always one or two games out of the playoffs. But
there's no team in the NFL that played harder than
we did. We needed a little bit more support, little
more talent, I think back in those days, but we
played hard and we fought our guts out and I
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was so proud to be a part of those teams
because we never quit.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
And that's like me and a lot of the fans
I thought it was. It was tough to see you
go the way that you did, and won't get a
specifics of that, but it was kind of a very
you know, beginning of season and you know, you've been
such a great player for this organization.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
How long did it take to get over that?
Speaker 5 (25:30):
And you're back with all these guys now celebrating thirty
years of Panthers football. You know, did you kind of
you get beyond that and get the Panthers kind of
back in your heart?
Speaker 7 (25:38):
Well, I can tell you this, It wasn't as hard
on you as it was on me. And you know,
I really felt that I deserved better because of all
I had given to the Panthers in my previous five years.
And you know, I really was bitter about how it
all went down. And again we won't get into the details.
Like you said, it's not important. You know, what's done
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is done. But it was very hard pill for me
to swallow, and I really considered at that point retiring
from the NFL because I was like, if I can
get released at this point in my career, after all
I did for this organization, it's just not worth it anymore.
And it took me a long time to kind of
get past that. Fortunately, I was very good friends with
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I still am very good friends with Mike Shanahan, who
at the time was a coach of the Broncos, and
he's the only coach that I would have gone back
to play for. And I'm grateful that that opportunity came
up and that I did it. But I was still
very bitter about how this thing went down and what
got me through it. And you remember this gym, you know,
when I decided it was time to retire. After my
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seventeenth year, I was playing for the Broncos, but I
really wanted to retire as a Panther, and I called
up mister Richardson and asked him if we could, if
we could come to some kind of an agreement to
do that, and he did not hesitate to say yes,
that would be awesome, because I think he felt really
bad about the way it went down because it was
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George Seaffert's decision and nobody was in support of it.
Nobody was in favor of it, and I think it
gave some closure to both mister Richardson and me and
the rest of the Panther organization to kind of have
me retire as a Panther. And so that's how I
got past it.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
For those who don't remember, out of that, the aftermath
was a one and fifteen season and the last year
of George Seafford being here. So I didn't play out
on the football field the way they thought it would either.
But I'm glad you had to have you back in
the fold here. You mentioned Mike Shanahan. You finished your
career there, and he also brought you into the league
with the Raiders at the beginning as well. So just
a little bit more about you know what, but Mike
Shannhan meant to you as a person and as a coach.
Speaker 7 (27:42):
Well, you know, he did mean an awful lot to me.
He actually got there my second year in the NFL.
My first year, Tom Flores was still the coach of
the Raiders, but I was put on intor reserve, kind
of red shirted. You know, we won't talk about how
we got through. Back in those days, they could find
way to kind of create little injury scenarios where they
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were they were able to kind of red shirt me
that first year. And then Mike Shadahan came in that
second year, and you know, I was a fourth round
draft choice in my second year in the NFL, had
never played. I have no idea what he saw in me,
but he named me his starting quarterback going into the season.
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He really felt like I could get it done and
I could be a successful quarterback at this level. And
that confidence that he had in me meant an awful lot.
And you know it, really, even though it didn't work
out great, He only lasted twenty games with the Raiders.
Four games into the second year, he was gone. Al
Davis wanted to start Jay Schrader, Mike Shanahan wanted to
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start me. Well, Al Davis usually wins those battles, and
so I was Mike Shanahan was gone. But then I
went on and had, you know, all the different things
that happened during my seventeen year career, and to have
a chance to finish up under Mike Shanahan, who was
the first coach to give me a chance to play
in the NFL, was a great way to kind of
wrap it all up and finish it out. So I
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was very appreciative of it. We're still very close to
this day.
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Speaker 1 (29:30):
Panther Talk continues and it's time to preview Carolina's Week
seven opponent. It is the Washington Commanders and they are
one of the surprise teams in the NFL at four
and two, doing it with a dynamic rookie quarterback, the
second overall pick Jaden Daniels and the Talk Commanders. We
bring in Craig Hoffman, host of The Hoffman Show at
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Team ninet eighty in Washington, DC. Craig, let me backtrack.
Washington has had a long, long line kind of failed
quarterback experiments for thirty something years now. So when Jade
and Daniels was the pick back in April, how was
that initially received?
Speaker 8 (30:13):
I mean, people were really really excited. I think there's
obviously a mix. The fan base is very very large,
and there is certainly some scarring from what happened with
Robert Griffin that you're like, oh, a mobile quarterback is
a little slight in frame number two. Overall pick there's
just so many similarities on the very very surface. But
I think people that maybe paid a little bit closer attention,
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that watched a little bit more of Daniels at LSU
or read a little more about him, realized there is
a maturity and a just work ethic about the guy
that was really exciting. There's also definitely concerns in terms
of whether it's the durability or certain throws he didn't
make as many of the LSU. It just depended kind
of on who you ask. But I think By and large.
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There's been a general excitement over the last year in change,
knowing that things were going to be different, not just
because oh wow, okay, you got the number two quarterback,
but the new ownership, the new leadership. Adam Peters was
one of the most exciting days when they hired him
as the general manager, a guy that had been tried
to you know, other franchises had tried to lure away
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from San Francisco, and they got him here. So everyone
had the highest of expectations way back on draft day.
I don't even know if some of those dreams were
high enough for how good he's been.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Yeah, he's been terrific, and we'll get to that in
a moment. But I'm glad you brought up Adam Peters
because you went You look at how San Francisco built
its roster right and even when brock Perty stepped in
as a seventh rounder, the infrastructure around him was so strong.
How would you characterize the infrastructure from a roster standpoint
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that Jaden Daniels stepped into.
Speaker 8 (31:47):
I mean, the roster is really interesting because it's not
necessarily the most talented, but they really prioritized the kind
of guy that they wanted in that locker room and
the play style that they wanted. This is part Adam
Peters being able to deliver on it and part Dan
Quinn and his staff really coaching it up. They wanted
guys that were going to compete. They wanted guys that
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were physical, and they're not always the fastest, they don't
always have the perfect technique. But if you watch this
team weekend, we got like I do and like the
fans up here, do you see a team that is
really going for it and they run and they hit
and they never give up on plays. There is just
a tenacity to them. And so he's a guy that
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is surrounded by a bunch of like minded individuals and
the mentality that they have, and the humility that they have,
the work ethic that these guys have, it's a really,
really great fit to get the best out of that
competitor that is Jayden, and I think that's helped, you know,
kind of match him and keep him moving in the
direction that he naturally wants to go, which again is
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a good one, and that's helped accelerate the fast start.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
He's dynamic. I remember the Monday Night game where he
was fearless and made plenty of plays with his feet,
throws down field and Craig. You start to survey the
rest of the NFC. Right in the East, Philly and
Dallas seem to have some internal chaos. I know the
North is stacked right now. Caleb Williams keeps getting better,
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but I think we expect some regression from Sam Darnold Detroit.
We kind of expected this after what they did last year.
The Falcons and the Bucks in the South have obvious
glaring weaknesses, and the forty nine ers are still really
banged up. You can kind of talk yourself into Washington
with a rookie quarterback, can't you.
Speaker 8 (33:33):
I think you can. I mean, I think this offense
obviously is super potent. Baltimore is really excellent. So you know,
it's funny because you talk about them in such glowing
terms coming off a loss, and it's like, well, yeah,
that losses to a team that's now one four straight
and one of the only other losses on the year
is to Kansas City, obviously by a literal toe in
the opener, like, Baltimore is really really good, but there
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just aren't a lot of teams that are that good.
Certainly in the NFC, but in football period. I think
from a talent disparity standpoint and some of the weaknesses
that Washington does have their run defense, et cetera, you
could have very easily seen yesterday be similar to how
Dallas Detroit was, where that was just an absolute blowout,
and instead Washington goes toe to toe, They return the Haymakers,
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They're without the number one running back in Brian Robinson,
they couldn't run the football, and they just found a
way to stay in that game. And I think if
they can do that against a team like Baltimore, there's
no one they line up against in the NFC that
I don't think they could do the exact same thing
in and again, if you get a friendlier whistle, you
get a balance that goes your way. You know, opposing
team has an off day. I don't think there's anyone
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in the NFC they can't be. Not that I would
pick them as the favorite, but you can absolutely see
them competing with anybody.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Yeah, and the Ravens again, when all is said and done,
might end up being the best team in the NFL.
That game, again, from the outside, felt like, Okay, this
will be a measuring stick for Washington and you punch
up in weight class and it kind of felt, again
even in defeat, that you can go twelve rounds, you
can go the disc with one of the NFL's best,
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maybe the best in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
No.
Speaker 8 (35:04):
One hundred percent. And I think the lack of quit
in this team, and it's whatever the opposite of quit is,
like I don't even know what the right word would be,
the tenacity, the fortuitiveness, but whatever that thing is, they're
going to allow themselves to be in games. And there
is just a relentlessness to them as well that you know,
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you watch their draft picks especially, and this is I
think the thing that's so exciting about the future. They
have such a clear vision for what they want in players,
and they talked throughout the draft process of there's certain
guys that they have the Commander tag on, which is
a set of traits that they laid out and that
you know, competitiveness is the top of that list. And
those kinds of little things that add up in a
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major way that gives me a ton of hope for
this team now and then when they continue to add
the talent with those same kind of traits, in the
future of what they could be over the next five
to ten years.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
We're talking with Craig Hoffman from The Hoffman Show on
the Team nine eighty in Washington, DC. See Craig, I'll
leave you with this. There's two players on Washington that
a lot of Panther fans have affinity for. They were
signed in the offseason by the Commanders. What have been
the early returns on Frankie Louvu and Jeremy Chin.
Speaker 8 (36:13):
Louvu has been maybe the leader in the tenacity, the competitiveness,
all the things that I just talked about. I mean,
that guy runs, as everyone who loves him well knows.
He runs, he hits, he plays with physicality. There's a
spirit to him that is just incredible and it's infectious,
and I think it's rubbed off on a lot of
lot of other players, and I think Chadbout as well.
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The physicality, the things that also just that he allows
this defense to do because of the hybrid nature of
his game where they can play in some lighter boxes
but still defend the run at a higher level than
if another safety was down there. So I think, you know,
Jeremy was at a little bit harder adaptation. In the
first couple of games were a little squarely for him,
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but he's really found himself. I think he's playing good football.
And Frankie been one of their best players weekend and
week out. There's a reason that as Peters and Quinn
built up what they want from a culture standpoint, those
are two guys that they really targeted, and obviously Panthers
fans fully understand that.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Yeah, Chin had a couple of great seasons early in
his career with Carolina, and Frankie Luvu big fan favorite
when he played here. For all the things that you mentioned,
he was a one man tempest. Craig, appreciate it, man,
that was awesome. Thank you. Panther Talk presented by Bosh
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Speaker 1 (37:39):
We're gonna save this for the show on October twenty eighth,
the Monday before Halloween. It's got to become a running joke.
The last couple of years, we asked the head coach
what kind of candy they give out. It's a trick
or treaters, but I figured we can jump in on
it now. We had a riveted, riveting discussion moments ago
about a candy corn. Candy corn in this cool map.
Speaker 6 (38:01):
I'm telling you the actually think we can't be friends anymore, Jean.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
Candy corn with peanuts is nothing but a payday.
Speaker 6 (38:08):
And I'm telling you it's good.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
You got to check it out to check it's not
a pay It's like a pay day.
Speaker 6 (38:15):
It's also like a pay day, a payday. Just give
me candy corn.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
You don't like candy corn?
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Who likes?
Speaker 5 (38:23):
Come on that body? That's like, no nothing food in
that cemical things.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
You have no idea. It's basically the candy equivalent of spam.
You don't know what's in it. Yeah, you're right spam.
But I used to get down on spam.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Man.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
You try that thing going on? Man, Spam was pretty good.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Man.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Put a little mustard on that too.
Speaker 6 (38:47):
What you just depended?
Speaker 1 (38:48):
All Hawaiian I know, I know our listeners in Hawaii,
the fore fans we have. I'm holding it down for
you because I used to eat my spam. Mustpam wasn't
that bad? All right? Jim So Tricker treaders come to
the Casa de la Zoke. What are they getting.
Speaker 5 (39:07):
They're getting the regular like like, I guess you call
it fun size away, but we don't like, say you
get one.
Speaker 6 (39:13):
It's just like they reach their handed if they grab
four whatever.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
You play the hits, we're not.
Speaker 6 (39:16):
Yeah, we're not.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
Great stickers, the milky ways, you know, the kick cap bars,
this good bar and the crackle dot cracks ares and
missed the good.
Speaker 6 (39:25):
But we don't do that now.
Speaker 5 (39:26):
Ron Rivera back in the day was notorious for in
a positive way, for having full size goes. Come my house,
you get the full size, like size candy bar. Well,
you're not an NFL coaching.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
See, here's the here's the danger with that. So I
learned this lesson the hard way. A few years ago
we got the king sized candy bars. It was one
of those years where low volume tricker treaders. Now you're
stuck with all these king sized candy bars. That's not healthy.
Speaker 6 (39:50):
Now, that's not healthy at all, but it's gonna be
pretty good. So I'm with those are good stocking stuff Christmas.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Right, I'm with you, fun size help yourself and then
you know what, you know what's good about fun size
You can just kind of leave it outside and yeah,
you could say take a handful and you know, you know,
some rap scallions gonna come and dump the entire bucket.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
But I want it to be dump. I don't want
to go to the door anymore after the first hour.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
What do we get at Eugene's house.
Speaker 6 (40:18):
If we're gonna go ahead get the fan size.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
Get you can get some candy cot but you're gonna
go ahead and get some Snickles bars, milky Way, mister
good Bar, you get some crackle.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
I'm glad you threw the e l at the end. Crackle, crackle,
I'm telling you crack. No joke man.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
Okay, what y'all say? That's pretty good. That's a pretty
good uh crackle crackle, yeah, crackle, that's a good one.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
That's like part of the uh.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
It's like a mister goodbye is good it crunch.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
It's like the redheaded cousin for mister Goodbar. Yes, on
that note, it's not quite hell. We're getting there though.
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Panthers to the line quickly, Galton in the shotgun ten seconds,
handy pumps, floats went back to the end. So Cold
breaks it in and the Panthers get the t d.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
It was a little bit shaky to start. The guys
settled in and played fine football.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
You know.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
We were able to, you know, maintain some drives. We
were able to have the protection that we needed in
different situations, and so I was fired up about the
guys just kind of settling into a group, and I
could feel them playing together even as we went into
that last drive a one score game. You know, being
able to run the ball the way we did with
those guys in there was fantastic. So I'm really encouraged
about this group and the way that they were able
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to finish.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
And now, along with Jim Zochi and Eugene Upson, hears
a Niche Shruff with Panther Talk live from the Panthers
broadcast facility at Bank of America Stio.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Tough one on Sunday, Panthers right there with the Falcons
most of the game, one score game, driving to tie
before an untimely interception which really turned the game midway
through the fourth quarter. On the defensive side, injuries have
continued to mount, and maybe we get a little bit
of good news from head coach Dave Canalis. Let's bring
(01:32):
in Dave Canallis, head coach of the Carolina Panthers. Coach
that defense. I know it's been beat up. The injuries
have taken a toll. Do you have any good news
for us on the injury front.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
You know, we still got a couple of things, a
couple of knicks here and there that we're dealing with.
But I think in general, you know, the picture is
pretty clear of the things we got to you know,
focus and emphasize. You know, it's the run game. I
thought we did a better job with our with our
you know, our matches and the way that we communicated
in the past game outside of a few plays that
got away, you know, but it's just about you know,
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getting back to the basics of it and playing good
team football. On that side, and so you know, hopefully
we can just get right back on track with this
week against the Commanders.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
What's that challenge like when you are missing you know,
so many pieces that you guys are pegged in and
penciled in sort of to be a part of that
core on defense, and now you got some moving parts.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah, the challenges to get to good football, the challenges
to play as a team and to be able to
fit off each other and trust each other, continue to
play hard and finish, and the effort is there. You know,
these guys have the spirit to continue to just you know,
hone in on the things that we need to fix,
you know, which are things that we've looked at today
and talk to the players about. So the challenge is
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getting everybody on the same page and executing down in
and down out.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
After the game, Cuba mentioned that he articulated that we're
not that far away. We're really close, and you kept
saying that, and so I would like to know, coach,
what does he mean because I look at some of
the plays that, oh man, if they make this play
is a different story. If they make this plays a
different story. So what does close mean in your opinion?
Speaker 3 (03:15):
To me, it's about execution. It's about knowing the base
the base calls of our offense, our defense, and our
special teams, and the premium being execution, the premium being
assignment football. The fundamentals of it, the blocking, the tackling,
the throwing and catching, you know, taking care of the ball.
Those are all the basic things that I talk about
on a weekly basis. Where we were taking strides, but
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that has to be consistent. We have to have the
consistency to finish drives, finish haves and finish games, playing
great football all the way throughout, you know, where it
can't be patches of it, you know. And so that's
the challenge for the whole group, the coaching staff as
well as the players. The challenge for us is to
is to be studs about it and to have that
mental discipline to get right back to work in and
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focus on those things.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
And to follow up on what Eugene started with with
Cuba there maybe your most consistent player, certainly one of
the most consistent ones. Not only that, but what did
you think about Brady Christensen filling in Josh Niman yesterday
as far as the offensive line and how they performed
stepping into starter roles.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
You know, we really expected those guys to show up
and take the next step for us, and they did that.
You know, they had it. Was it a perfect game, No,
but didn't give up any sacks. We were able to
run the ball once we settled in, and we played
our style of ball on the offensive side outside of
you know, a couple of those turnovers, and they gave
us a chance to just continue to bring to life
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the things that we're trying to build off of.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Coach, we talked after the game yesterday about how this
rookie class was coming along. In Jonathan Brook's second round pick,
you said at your press conference earlier today, you might
have a decision on him by day's end. I'm wondering
has his window opened. Is there any update there?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yeah, there's certainly something that we're excited about. And again
we're just trying to make sure we take all the
information necessary. But it certainly looks like he's going to
be out there practicing this week, which is exciting. And
at the same time, you know, it's like this is
about playing against the Commanders, So we open up a
window for Jonathan. We'll do the right thing first and
foremost for him, and then to see in which way
that he can come in and help us potentially at
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some point.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
And Coach, when you got fins washing the film, were
there any opportunities for interceptions out there? I thought that
maybe Horn and maybe even was had a chance to
go ahead and maybe turn the tide of the game
a little bit or may make a big impactful play.
Did you see it that way as you were able
to watch the film, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
I think you said it right. You know, there were
a couple of opportunities, and more and more opportunities will
come up for guys as we're in position, as the
communication is great, you know. And then of course just
those effort plays, Eugene that you've seen over the years,
where you may not be at the point of attack,
but if you're going one hundred miles an hour, yeah,
and that ball tipped up, then you're there for the
tips and overthrows, which are things that we got to
take advantage of.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
And he's talking about the rookie class. Trevin Wallace only
six games into his regular season, taking out a lot
of responsibility with obviously both the shack and Josie out,
and Josie will be back at some point. But how's
he doing with all that communication? You talk about the
extra responsibilities that come with him not only being a
rookie player but also having to be a focal point
like that.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
It's a great challenge for Trevin to get in there
and make those calls and to continue to be able
to play fast once he's made the calls and trust
his instincts. And he's taking the challenge on bull right
head on, and he's been a stud about it, and
he's he's asking all the right questions. We're throwing a
bunch of things at him, and again, there's no substitute
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for just being out there on the field and seeing
it happen live. And these are so valuable for Trevin
as for the rest of this season as we continue
to build our football team, but for sure for his
future long term.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Coach, I want to bring up a player black share.
I see him on special teams? What does he give you?
I know, special team he seems electric to me, But
what does also does he give you him? Might we
see him a little bit more on the offensive side of.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
The ball, you know?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Right now, the focus is to continue to build our system,
you know, and that starts with Cuba and getting Miles,
you know, is a high priority. Getting Miles Sanders the ball,
you know, trying to find ways when he touches it.
He's electric when we give him space, you know. And
and that's the challenge for us as it's staff to
continue to find opportunities for him, and and Raheem will
get his chances, you know, as the opportunities come up.
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But the focus right now is on Cheubah and Miles.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Coach, third of the way through your first season as
an NFL head coach, what would you say is kind
of you know, the one thing that maybe has opened
your eyes to what that entails being a head coach
at this level, something that you can't prepare for you
just have to go through.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yeah, it's the discipline to have consistency in our messaging
about the fundamentals of our football, our style, building a culture,
building a foundation for our team of non negotiables. And
those are the things that I can just come back
to every Monday, is what happened on the things that
matter to us the most yesterday. And if I can
be that consistent messaging for our guys to keep our
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focus and energy on those areas offense, defense, and special
teams to get a style of football that we're looking for.
Then I know that I can handle that. You know,
anything beyond that, you know, it's been really it's really challenging.
So I just have to stay focused on those things
and keep our team pushing in that direction. As we know,
we have a long season with a lot of games.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
You mentioned playing well in patches, but not four quarters. Really,
maybe the highlight moment of the game might have been
right before halftime, getting that touchdown just before the half
with xavierly Get getting it. But in that drive it
was Jalen Cocher, an undrafted rookie, making a couple of catches,
JT Sanders making a catch in there, and then finished
off with a touchdown to Xavier. I mean, you're down
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some veteran guys, but to have Andy there throwing the
ball to those young guys that they stepped up at
certain times in the game.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
It's really exciting to see those guys that we can
count on, you know, in critical situations, and to see
our system come to life with those guys executing. You know,
we're going to continue to ask them to build, to
build on their repertoire to be more more detailed, more
disciplined about the way we go dry play in and
play out, And those are the challenges for these guys.
But I love that when the ball comes their direction,
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by and large, right now for the last couple of games,
these guys are making plays for us, which is what
we're counting.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
On for them.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Coach, has the injuries has that affected the character of
the game, Like typically, you know, there's an attitude that
kind of farcesself. Whether somebody a team is nasty fast,
has the injuries kind of you know, stunn up that
a little bit at all, or what do you see?
Speaker 3 (09:40):
I honestly think it's kind of strengthened our beliefs about
what we do because we get guys that keep stepping in,
playing hard, playing with great effort, really just engaged and
all in on what we're doing. And to show examples
of guys, you know, the guys that have gotten injured,
you know, to those to point to those examples and
show these next guys that come in when you get
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these valuable reps, are you going to represent us the
right way just like the guys that were in there
before you. And so for me, it challenges us in
the right way, and I think it strengthens us long
term for people to come in here. Can we maintain
the standards of what we're looking for and for sure
the execution we're trying to get. But I think the challenges,
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I think only make you stronger.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Dave Canalis, head coach of the Carolina Panthers, Coach, we
appreciate your time as always, thank you, and coach, I'll
say this before we go to break because the climate
that we live in as media, as fans, as the
comments section of anything, is hyperbole is where you go first, right,
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You want to go to the extreme. You want to
jump to the extreme, greatest thing ever, worst thing ever.
You know, there's no gray area, there's no nuance. The
reality is it needs to be applied. We watched this
team last year, Jim, and there were games you're down
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two scores, you never felt like you had a chance.
Let's be honest. They got down two scores in the
first half against Atlanta, you felt like they had a chance.
They scored before halftime. You brought that up with coach.
Fourth quarter, they're driving in Panthers terror in Falcons territory.
Unfortunate pick, but they're in that game. Offensively, this is
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a much better team, and I do think Dave Canalis
when he made that decision to put Andy Dalton in,
you can kind of get a sense of what this
offense is now. There's pieces to work with. Defensively, you're
just up against a really brutal reality right now that
your key guys are injured, and it's not just one
or two, it's about seven.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
You've got a good number of practice squad guys, and
you even got people from other teams practice squads that
are playing key rose they're starting, and they're playing a
lot of reps out there right now, and you're just
trying to hold the Ford down until some of the
guys come back. Derek Brown won't be one of them,
Shack Thompson won't be one of them coming back this year.
But in the meanwhile, yeah, you got to keep playing football,
and you have to develop your young guys. They have
to grow up a little bit faster. But the reality
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is at the highest level of football, somebody like Kirk
Cousins knows his way around the defense, and so maybe
if you're playing Spencer Ratler in his first game, you'll
get away with a few things.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
Not so much with Kirk Gibson, not so much with.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
The way Atlanta can run the ball with the running
backs they have in their offensive line.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
A bunch of veterans there, Eugene.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
But I think you know that sometimes it's just a
bad matchup in terms of like who you're playing versus
where you are health wise with your roster on a
certain Sunday, that was a difficult spot for the defense
to be in yesterday with the personnel.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
And here's the other problem, not having your guys in there.
Everybody who replaces. You have to play some clean football,
and you have to make the opportunities. If you have
a chance for interception or to push the ball out,
you gotta get it done. You can't say, oh, I'll
get the next one. There's not gonna be a next one.
Cousins is too good. A team is just too good
at all. So you have to take advantage of the opportunities.
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And that's where I thought that Tuba Hubbard was trying
to say, was take advantage of the opportunities. When that
play comes your way and you can make it, you
gotta make it. You can't say I'll wait till the
next one to get it done.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
I did want to ask you specifically. Gen know, there
are certain plays where just guys were completely uncovered. So
that's not like Atlanta played great ball. It's just easy
to find the guy that's standing wide open with his
arm up twenty yards down to the fiel. Kyle Pitt's
getting down the field deep. At one point, they would
run this motion, this kind of like whip motion around
the quarterback and then they would either throw to him
or misdirect, and the guys were just take one to
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be out a spot.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
How difficult is that to fix that?
Speaker 5 (13:36):
When it's something internal like that, where it's your communication
trying to identify those situations, that's.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Not hard to fix because everybody knows the assignment of
what guy you should be covering in zone. In man,
what's the problem is that when you get no pressure
on the quarterback and.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
Then that really becomes set and survey.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Oh yeah, when you get the chance to sit back
there and you're looking and you get a one two
a third read, that's too much. And then if nothing
happens and everybody breaks, you got a plaster as a defense.
Find a guy you trying to find a guy that
quarterback is too good and he's gonna find that open receiver.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I want to ask you this to Eugene because a
lot of the fans, you know, the question that they
wanted to know after the game was, you know the
drive where Andy Dalton threw the interception. It pass intended
for Ian Thomas. Cuba was running it, so well why
did they throw And you're kind of laughing because coaches
sequence plays and you set up the run for the
big pass. Now, fair criticism. And Andy Dalton it was
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the first one to man up and say, yeah, that
was on me. He had a couple of checkdown options.
I think he had Cuba underneath, they had Mingo underneath, right,
and he threw that ball into coverage to Ian Thomas.
The execution wasn't there. But part of the reason you
run the ball. You run the ball, You run the ball,
You soft it up the defense so you can throw that,
so you can throw the ball and get that big
explosive play. And so people are saying, well, well, why
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didn't you just keep running the football, because yeah, the
other your team is prepared for that too, Like, can
you just explain that to people who don't understand how
play calling and sequence works.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Your coach is setting him up. And the fact that
when Tuba's running the ball really hard, getting four yards
five yards, that's gonna get you into an eight man front.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
Typically stopped to run.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
And now when you have a play action pass, you
got one on one coverage and typically you're gonna get
a guy beating someone. But on that little bootleg play
that they had. Now, the great thing about it was,
you know, Ian Thomas was actually open when we started.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
He was open.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
No one's given the cornerback credit. He recognized the play.
He recognized that he didn't have to go ahead and
take the back on the backside screen. He flowed with
the play and he just outran Ian Thomas to the ball, no.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
Doubt about it.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
So I know what he saw and he Dalton because
he sees, oh he's open.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
I got my guy.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
The cornerback made a heck of a play because he
was trailing and then got on the front side of
Ian Thomas.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
All right, we got more to do here. On Panther
Talk on this Monday, we will hear Jim's interview with
Steve Berlin. Any flashbacks to ninety nine, right, Roco Berlin,
I feel like they had to score every time out
of nineteen ninety nine right with that defense.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
He did a lot to save the franchise in that
time when they needed a studying influence in that locker room.
Steve Burrline was really the ultimate team guy there for
a couple of years.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
You know, I've always thought he's been a great quarterback,
no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Still holds the franchise single season record for passing yards. Plus.
Craig Hoffman from Team nine to eighty in Washington, DC,
will join us to preview the Washington Commanders. Panther Talk
is presented by Bosh power Tools here on the Carolina
Panthers Radio Network.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
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Speaker 1 (16:52):
Six weeks in Panthers Sitting at one and five. Dave
Canalis has talked a lot about team identity. It will
reveal itself defensively. I think it's tough to pin an
identity of any kind just because you haven't had your personnel. Offensively,
we're starting to see it. This O line has been
pretty good even with the injuries. Brady Christensen and Josh
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Niman played fairly well, but Dalton was not sacked in
that game. We're starting to see the run game. I
think if they're not behind multiple scores late, you can
stay with that run game longer too. But Hubbard is
third in the NFL in rushing yards. He is tenth
in rushing attempts. He's averaging better than five and a
half yards per carry. He is playing at an all
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pro level.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
He's hungry too. You can see it. He's hungry. He
wants the ball. Last week he had like ninety seven yards.
I mean, this dude, every time he touches the ball,
it is positive. And then he's also in the passing game.
Kind of reminds me of littk but Kaeprick because he's
getting some touches in the passing game. If I am
coach Kanals, i am hitching myself to this officeive line
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that who can block, and I'm giving them tuba the
ball and then I'm going to delegate that ball distributed
out there to my receivers. But it's gonna be for me.
It's gonna be that sixty five thirty five seventy thirty.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I'm running the rock.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
You gotta stop me, because one thing our offensive block
can do, no matter who's in there, they can block,
they understand the blocking combinations, and I'm gonna dare the
team get get it an eight man front. I double
dare you because now I can pick you off in
the passing game.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
And you know, having Ian Thomas back is gonna help
with that too, because you got a good blocking tight end.
It's what Ikey I think does better as far as
is it pass pro is it run blocking? Being a
road grader is what Ikey's better at.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
And it slows the game down. It shortens the game.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
Cuba's great at it, and the line's good at blocking it,
and it again it sets up to play action like
you talked about too, So yeah, I agree, I would
keep doing that. And the other thing about Cuba is
too when you hear him speak and you talked about
his interview with us after the game, it's like he's
got the leadership quality is that's like a team captain
kind of a guy, and somebody that culturally is what
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you want to have around here too.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah, and I think the challenge now too, as hopeful
as we're hopeful to get Jonathan Brooks back here in
the next couple of weeks. If you missed it, Dave
Canal said that his twenty one day window coming off
IR has begun. He will practice starting this week. This
rookie class that drive before halftime, Jim, you mentioned it,
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but first round pick League gets got a couple of touchdown,
He's made plays. He has caught some fifty to fifty balls.
That's why he was brought in. We're hopeful to see Brooks.
The second round pick. Trevin Wallace has been thrown into
the fire. Keeps getting better. Twenty four tackles in his
first two games as a Panther, the most by any
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Panther in his first two games where he started. Fourth
round pick, who am I missing here? Sanders career day
on Sunday, he had a good day. Shaw Smith Wade
the last couple of weeks starting to get in the mix.
What we need is we need last year's draft class
to start to step up. We know Bryce Young is
on the bench, but Jonathan Mingo's losing snaps to Jalen Coker.
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This is a second round pick out of all miss
We need to call DJ Johnson's name more on Sunday, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
No doubt about it.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
Because they're getting their opportunities and Eugenie I think you've
definitely reference us through the years. That opportunity comes and
if you're not ready for it, they'll give you a
little bit of time, but that moment will pass. And
just to use that example, Jalen Coker, undrafted rookie will
be taking your snaps. Yes, well, you know it's not
over yet. I mean, Jonathan Mingo has a long season
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ahead of him here, but at this moment, there are
some things about Coker right now where you'll get arrow
pointing up or errowpointing sideways are down.
Speaker 6 (20:48):
Coker is definitely a guy on the ascent right now.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
And don't forget three point two years is the average
tenure as an NFL player, and so three years and
if you don't get it together in those three years, sorry,
you're not gonna be here on the team. Draft picks,
free agents, you're not gonna be on the team because
this is a win business and you've got to perform.
And if you can't perform, let other people take your snaps.
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I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
Terris Marshall, beer Tis Marshall say, you.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Know, and so I I think it's odd a coach
he's in this thing. He has to rebuild a team,
and you got things you gotta do, and you got
guys that are out, and then you got guys you
wanted to step up, you know, and so you got
a lot of work. He coach Kannalis has a big
job ahead of him, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah, And I give him credit again. He said all
the right things. He hasn't made excuses for the injuries,
but they are real. And when those injuries happen, your
draft classes that you've stacked have become your depth. And well,
this twenty twenty four class, which was Dan Morgan's first
year in charge as GM, seems to be paying dividends,
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not getting a whole lot from the twenty twenty three
and twenty twenty two draft classes. As we speak, they're
still plenty of season left, two thirds of the season
still to go. When we come back, it's Jim's interview
with Steve Burline, plus we'll get a commander's preview from
Craig Hoffman later on Panther Talk presented by Bosh Power
Tools on the Carolina Panthers Radio Network.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
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Speaker 5 (22:21):
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seven to two thousand and three. Five of those years
were with Carolina from nineteen ninety six to two thousand
and While his tenure with the Panthers did not end dwell,
he now looks back with great memories of the great times.
And we talk about it all with the man who
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Speaker 2 (22:39):
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Speaker 1 (22:49):
Berlin under center Floyd does in motion right, Berlin takes
the snap. He's going to run it himself to one.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
That's Berline with them.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Burlin Berlin on a quarterback draw, and the Panthers have
won it on the last play.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
I think if you as a leader and a tough guy,
but you were very good. I mean, you led the
league in passing yards to one year with the Panthers
here too, but you also bailed this team out of
a tough situation with Kerry Collins as we look back
at that time and so forth, and you stepped right
in as a leader at a time when this franchise
needed their quarterback to step up and be president and
play good ball.
Speaker 7 (23:26):
Well, you know, I always have believed that, you know,
you've got to have a few qualities as a quarterback
in the NFL. Everybody's a little bit different, but you've
got to have a few qualities that you really stand
out in. And for me, you know, physically, I wasn't,
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you know, the big, stereotypical six foot four, six foot
five quarterback that can move and do all those kind
of things. That was a little bit more of, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
A scrapper.
Speaker 7 (23:58):
I would like to say, yes. And I knew that
my strengths were not only was I looked at myself
as a good passer, a guy that can make all
the throws and go to the right guys. But the
real strength areas were leadership and confidence. And I think
as a quarterback, those are two things that you have
to have to be successful at this level. And you know,
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being a leader always came very natural to me. I
always took it very seriously, always made it a very
high priority, and made it extremely you know important all
the different teams I played for, and especially when I
got my opportunity here to step in when Carrie went
through his tough times and I got that opportunity. I
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wanted my teammates to know that I was ready and
that don't worry about me, and if you trust me,
we're going to find a way to get this done.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Now.
Speaker 7 (24:51):
We you know, we always came up a little bit
short when you look at the big picture. We were
always one or two games out of the playoffs. But
there's no team in the NFL that played harder than
we did. We needed a little bit more support, little
more talent, I think back in those days, but we
played hard and we fought our guts out and I
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was so proud to be a part of those teams
because we never quit.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
And that's like me and a lot of the fans
I thought it was. It was tough to see you
go the way that you did, and won't get a
specifics of that, but it was kind of a very
you know, beginning of season and you know, you've been
such a great player for this organization.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
How long did it take to get over that?
Speaker 5 (25:30):
And you're back with all these guys now celebrating thirty
years of Panthers football. You know, did you kind of
you get beyond that and get the Panthers kind of
back in your heart?
Speaker 7 (25:38):
Well, I can tell you this, It wasn't as hard
on you as it was on me. And you know,
I really felt that I deserved better because of all
I had given to the Panthers in my previous five years.
And you know, I really was bitter about how it
all went down. And again we won't get into the details.
Like you said, it's not important. You know, what's done
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is done. But it was very hard pill for me
to swallow, and I really considered at that point retiring
from the NFL because I was like, if I can
get released at this point in my career, after all
I did for this organization, it's just not worth it anymore.
And it took me a long time to kind of
get past that. Fortunately, I was very good friends with
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I still am very good friends with Mike Shanahan, who
at the time was a coach of the Broncos, and
he's the only coach that I would have gone back
to play for. And I'm grateful that that opportunity came
up and that I did it. But I was still
very bitter about how this thing went down and what
got me through it. And you remember this gym, you know,
when I decided it was time to retire. After my
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seventeenth year, I was playing for the Broncos, but I
really wanted to retire as a Panther, and I called
up mister Richardson and asked him if we could, if
we could come to some kind of an agreement to
do that, and he did not hesitate to say yes,
that would be awesome, because I think he felt really
bad about the way it went down because it was
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George Seaffert's decision and nobody was in support of it.
Nobody was in favor of it, and I think it
gave some closure to both mister Richardson and me and
the rest of the Panther organization to kind of have
me retire as a Panther. And so that's how I
got past it.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
For those who don't remember, out of that, the aftermath
was a one and fifteen season and the last year
of George Seafford being here. So I didn't play out
on the football field the way they thought it would either.
But I'm glad you had to have you back in
the fold here. You mentioned Mike Shanahan. You finished your
career there, and he also brought you into the league
with the Raiders at the beginning as well. So just
a little bit more about you know what, but Mike
Shannhan meant to you as a person and as a coach.
Speaker 7 (27:42):
Well, you know, he did mean an awful lot to me.
He actually got there my second year in the NFL.
My first year, Tom Flores was still the coach of
the Raiders, but I was put on intor reserve, kind
of red shirted. You know, we won't talk about how
we got through. Back in those days, they could find
way to kind of create little injury scenarios where they
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were they were able to kind of red shirt me
that first year. And then Mike Shadahan came in that
second year, and you know, I was a fourth round
draft choice in my second year in the NFL, had
never played. I have no idea what he saw in me,
but he named me his starting quarterback going into the season.
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He really felt like I could get it done and
I could be a successful quarterback at this level. And
that confidence that he had in me meant an awful lot.
And you know it, really, even though it didn't work
out great, He only lasted twenty games with the Raiders.
Four games into the second year, he was gone. Al
Davis wanted to start Jay Schrader, Mike Shanahan wanted to
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start me. Well, Al Davis usually wins those battles, and
so I was Mike Shanahan was gone. But then I
went on and had, you know, all the different things
that happened during my seventeen year career, and to have
a chance to finish up under Mike Shanahan, who was
the first coach to give me a chance to play
in the NFL, was a great way to kind of
wrap it all up and finish it out. So I
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was very appreciative of it. We're still very close to
this day.
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Speaker 1 (29:30):
Panther Talk continues and it's time to preview Carolina's Week
seven opponent. It is the Washington Commanders and they are
one of the surprise teams in the NFL at four
and two, doing it with a dynamic rookie quarterback, the
second overall pick Jaden Daniels and the Talk Commanders. We
bring in Craig Hoffman, host of The Hoffman Show at
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Team ninet eighty in Washington, DC. Craig, let me backtrack.
Washington has had a long, long line kind of failed
quarterback experiments for thirty something years now. So when Jade
and Daniels was the pick back in April, how was
that initially received?
Speaker 8 (30:13):
I mean, people were really really excited. I think there's
obviously a mix. The fan base is very very large,
and there is certainly some scarring from what happened with
Robert Griffin that you're like, oh, a mobile quarterback is
a little slight in frame number two. Overall pick there's
just so many similarities on the very very surface. But
I think people that maybe paid a little bit closer attention,
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that watched a little bit more of Daniels at LSU
or read a little more about him, realized there is
a maturity and a just work ethic about the guy
that was really exciting. There's also definitely concerns in terms
of whether it's the durability or certain throws he didn't
make as many of the LSU. It just depended kind
of on who you ask. But I think By and large.
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There's been a general excitement over the last year in change,
knowing that things were going to be different, not just
because oh wow, okay, you got the number two quarterback,
but the new ownership, the new leadership. Adam Peters was
one of the most exciting days when they hired him
as the general manager, a guy that had been tried
to you know, other franchises had tried to lure away
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from San Francisco, and they got him here. So everyone
had the highest of expectations way back on draft day.
I don't even know if some of those dreams were
high enough for how good he's been.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Yeah, he's been terrific, and we'll get to that in
a moment. But I'm glad you brought up Adam Peters
because you went You look at how San Francisco built
its roster right and even when brock Perty stepped in
as a seventh rounder, the infrastructure around him was so strong.
How would you characterize the infrastructure from a roster standpoint
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that Jaden Daniels stepped into.
Speaker 8 (31:47):
I mean, the roster is really interesting because it's not
necessarily the most talented, but they really prioritized the kind
of guy that they wanted in that locker room and
the play style that they wanted. This is part Adam
Peters being able to deliver on it and part Dan
Quinn and his staff really coaching it up. They wanted
guys that were going to compete. They wanted guys that
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were physical, and they're not always the fastest, they don't
always have the perfect technique. But if you watch this
team weekend, we got like I do and like the
fans up here, do you see a team that is
really going for it and they run and they hit
and they never give up on plays. There is just
a tenacity to them. And so he's a guy that
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is surrounded by a bunch of like minded individuals and
the mentality that they have, and the humility that they have,
the work ethic that these guys have, it's a really,
really great fit to get the best out of that
competitor that is Jayden, and I think that's helped, you know,
kind of match him and keep him moving in the
direction that he naturally wants to go, which again is
(32:52):
a good one, and that's helped accelerate the fast start.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
He's dynamic. I remember the Monday Night game where he
was fearless and made plenty of plays with his feet,
throws down field and Craig. You start to survey the
rest of the NFC. Right in the East, Philly and
Dallas seem to have some internal chaos. I know the
North is stacked right now. Caleb Williams keeps getting better,
(33:15):
but I think we expect some regression from Sam Darnold Detroit.
We kind of expected this after what they did last year.
The Falcons and the Bucks in the South have obvious
glaring weaknesses, and the forty nine ers are still really
banged up. You can kind of talk yourself into Washington
with a rookie quarterback, can't you.
Speaker 8 (33:33):
I think you can. I mean, I think this offense
obviously is super potent. Baltimore is really excellent. So you know,
it's funny because you talk about them in such glowing
terms coming off a loss, and it's like, well, yeah,
that losses to a team that's now one four straight
and one of the only other losses on the year
is to Kansas City, obviously by a literal toe in
the opener, like, Baltimore is really really good, but there
(33:54):
just aren't a lot of teams that are that good.
Certainly in the NFC, but in football period. I think
from a talent disparity standpoint and some of the weaknesses
that Washington does have their run defense, et cetera, you
could have very easily seen yesterday be similar to how
Dallas Detroit was, where that was just an absolute blowout,
and instead Washington goes toe to toe, They return the Haymakers,
(34:14):
They're without the number one running back in Brian Robinson,
they couldn't run the football, and they just found a
way to stay in that game. And I think if
they can do that against a team like Baltimore, there's
no one they line up against in the NFC that
I don't think they could do the exact same thing
in and again, if you get a friendlier whistle, you
get a balance that goes your way. You know, opposing
team has an off day. I don't think there's anyone
(34:34):
in the NFC they can't be. Not that I would
pick them as the favorite, but you can absolutely see
them competing with anybody.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Yeah, and the Ravens again, when all is said and done,
might end up being the best team in the NFL.
That game, again, from the outside, felt like, Okay, this
will be a measuring stick for Washington and you punch
up in weight class and it kind of felt, again
even in defeat, that you can go twelve rounds, you
can go the disc with one of the NFL's best,
(35:02):
maybe the best in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
No.
Speaker 8 (35:04):
One hundred percent. And I think the lack of quit
in this team, and it's whatever the opposite of quit is,
like I don't even know what the right word would be,
the tenacity, the fortuitiveness, but whatever that thing is, they're
going to allow themselves to be in games. And there
is just a relentlessness to them as well that you know,
(35:24):
you watch their draft picks especially, and this is I
think the thing that's so exciting about the future. They
have such a clear vision for what they want in players,
and they talked throughout the draft process of there's certain
guys that they have the Commander tag on, which is
a set of traits that they laid out and that
you know, competitiveness is the top of that list. And
those kinds of little things that add up in a
(35:45):
major way that gives me a ton of hope for
this team now and then when they continue to add
the talent with those same kind of traits, in the
future of what they could be over the next five
to ten years.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
We're talking with Craig Hoffman from The Hoffman Show on
the Team nine eighty in Washington, DC. See Craig, I'll
leave you with this. There's two players on Washington that
a lot of Panther fans have affinity for. They were
signed in the offseason by the Commanders. What have been
the early returns on Frankie Louvu and Jeremy Chin.
Speaker 8 (36:13):
Louvu has been maybe the leader in the tenacity, the competitiveness,
all the things that I just talked about. I mean,
that guy runs, as everyone who loves him well knows.
He runs, he hits, he plays with physicality. There's a
spirit to him that is just incredible and it's infectious,
and I think it's rubbed off on a lot of
lot of other players, and I think Chadbout as well.
(36:35):
The physicality, the things that also just that he allows
this defense to do because of the hybrid nature of
his game where they can play in some lighter boxes
but still defend the run at a higher level than
if another safety was down there. So I think, you know,
Jeremy was at a little bit harder adaptation. In the
first couple of games were a little squarely for him,
(36:56):
but he's really found himself. I think he's playing good football.
And Frankie been one of their best players weekend and
week out. There's a reason that as Peters and Quinn
built up what they want from a culture standpoint, those
are two guys that they really targeted, and obviously Panthers
fans fully understand that.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Yeah, Chin had a couple of great seasons early in
his career with Carolina, and Frankie Luvu big fan favorite
when he played here. For all the things that you mentioned,
he was a one man tempest. Craig, appreciate it, man,
that was awesome. Thank you. Panther Talk presented by Bosh
power Tools, continues after this on the Carolina Panthers or
Radio Network.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
This is Panther Talk, Please, ended by Bosh power Tools.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
We're gonna save this for the show on October twenty eighth,
the Monday before Halloween. It's got to become a running joke.
The last couple of years, we asked the head coach
what kind of candy they give out. It's a trick
or treaters, but I figured we can jump in on
it now. We had a riveted, riveting discussion moments ago
about a candy corn. Candy corn in this cool map.
Speaker 6 (38:01):
I'm telling you the actually think we can't be friends anymore, Jean.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
Candy corn with peanuts is nothing but a payday.
Speaker 6 (38:08):
And I'm telling you it's good.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
You got to check it out to check it's not
a pay It's like a pay day.
Speaker 6 (38:15):
It's also like a pay day, a payday. Just give
me candy corn.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
You don't like candy corn?
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Who likes?
Speaker 5 (38:23):
Come on that body? That's like, no nothing food in
that cemical things.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
You have no idea. It's basically the candy equivalent of spam.
You don't know what's in it. Yeah, you're right spam.
But I used to get down on spam.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Man.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
You try that thing going on? Man, Spam was pretty good.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Man.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Put a little mustard on that too.
Speaker 6 (38:47):
What you just depended?
Speaker 1 (38:48):
All Hawaiian I know, I know our listeners in Hawaii,
the fore fans we have. I'm holding it down for
you because I used to eat my spam. Mustpam wasn't
that bad? All right? Jim So Tricker treaders come to
the Casa de la Zoke. What are they getting.
Speaker 5 (39:07):
They're getting the regular like like, I guess you call
it fun size away, but we don't like, say you
get one.
Speaker 6 (39:13):
It's just like they reach their handed if they grab
four whatever.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
You play the hits, we're not.
Speaker 6 (39:16):
Yeah, we're not.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
Great stickers, the milky ways, you know, the kick cap bars,
this good bar and the crackle dot cracks ares and
missed the good.
Speaker 6 (39:25):
But we don't do that now.
Speaker 5 (39:26):
Ron Rivera back in the day was notorious for in
a positive way, for having full size goes. Come my house,
you get the full size, like size candy bar. Well,
you're not an NFL coaching.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
See, here's the here's the danger with that. So I
learned this lesson the hard way. A few years ago
we got the king sized candy bars. It was one
of those years where low volume tricker treaders. Now you're
stuck with all these king sized candy bars. That's not healthy.
Speaker 6 (39:50):
Now, that's not healthy at all, but it's gonna be
pretty good. So I'm with those are good stocking stuff Christmas.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Right, I'm with you, fun size help yourself and then
you know what, you know what's good about fun size
You can just kind of leave it outside and yeah,
you could say take a handful and you know, you know,
some rap scallions gonna come and dump the entire bucket.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
But I want it to be dump. I don't want
to go to the door anymore after the first hour.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
What do we get at Eugene's house.
Speaker 6 (40:18):
If we're gonna go ahead get the fan size.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
Get you can get some candy cot but you're gonna
go ahead and get some Snickles bars, milky Way, mister
good Bar, you get some crackle.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
I'm glad you threw the e l at the end. Crackle, crackle,
I'm telling you crack. No joke man.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
Okay, what y'all say? That's pretty good. That's a pretty
good uh crackle crackle, yeah, crackle, that's a good one.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
That's like part of the uh.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
It's like a mister goodbye is good it crunch.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
It's like the redheaded cousin for mister Goodbar. Yes, on
that note, it's not quite hell. We're getting there though.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
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