October 21, 2024 • 41 mins
This week on Panther Talk, Anish, Jim and Eugene talk with Dave Canales, KK Short, and Susie Wargin about the Panthers week 7 loss to the Commanders, this weekend's game against Denver and so much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
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Speaker 3 (00:18):
We got to just go back to the film. We
got to go back to the breakdowns of the runs
early on, the breakdowns in the pass game, and then
certainly on the defensive side, just all across the board.
You know, it's returning to the fundamentals and having the
toughness and the ability to, you know, to improve those things.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
And now, along with Jim Zochi and Eugene Robinson, here's
a Niche Shroff with Panther Talk live from the Panthers
broadcast facility at Bank of America Stereo.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Welcome to Panther Talk, Monday, October twenty First, it was
a promising start on Sunday opening drive. Panthers get inside
the Washington thirty and then the interception returned for a
touchdown by Dante Fowler, and then a snowball turned into
an avalanche. You kind of heard there from Dave Canalis.
If you listen to her post game. After the game,
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coach addressed that as well, he has had a chance
to look at the film. It is tell the truth Monday,
let's bring in the head coach of the Panthers, Dave
Canalis and coach for those that didn't watch a press
conference this afternoon, you had a chance to kind of
go through the film and see what was there and
what was the truth revealed to you from this past game.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Yeah, you know, it always starts with the ball.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
You know, I'm going to say that first and foremost,
and that'll always be true from there. You know, I
was I saw what I saw in film was a
group that was not executing from a fundamental standpoint. We
struggled to get lined up at times, some communication things
defensively certainly fitting the run game up and in general,
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you know, it just it felt like a group that
wasn't able to translate the good work we're putting in
during a week and have it come up on Sunday
and again, you know you mentioned it, but certainly you know,
starting the starting with a nice drive and we've done
a really good job, you know, early in games, getting
the ball moving, getting into scoring position and and you know,
(02:18):
finding a way in that situation right there, to come
away with points and just.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
And and get the game started off though we wanted to.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah, and Coach, I know you you have not made
excuses for injuries, but it's real. And when you're down
six of the projected front seven that you thought you
had going into the season, that is very real. Uh,
is there anything that that you can do besides just
kind of wait until you get some healthy reinforcements.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Ania, It's it's right to the fundamentals. And and when
we get these new faces playing football together, it's about trust.
It's about everybody doing their job, doing their part. And
that's the truth of it.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
You know.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
It's like, you know, we're not nobody's going to feel
sorry for us. It's like, here we go. We got
to get right to our football. Let's look at the tape,
you know, with this group playing together, and let's find
a way to all do our jobs and hold each
other accountable across the board.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
So, Coach, when you guys evaluate and take a look
at what you guys need to do, what is the
sample size that you do. Do you go back two games,
three games? Do you just concentrate on the first game
or the last game that you just play, So what
is your sample sides that you use to go ahead
and to move forward.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
We look at all of it, of course, Eugene, because
we know that teams are going to see, you know,
just kind of looking through the last you know, the
games that we've had and try to replicate the success
that defenses have had against our offense, offenses have had
against our defenses, and those things. So we have to
have all those things in mind, and then the discipline
of it. The way that we can help our guys
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is to look at what happened yesterday and really this
is the most relevant piece of information that we have
with this group that we're asking to execute, you know,
so that so we can give them something tangible to
work on.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
A lot of the things you describe obviously we're you know,
self inflicted type wounds. Of course, give a Washington credit
for the things they do too. But on one hand
it's frustrating, But on the other hand, does it give
you some hope that it's obviously more fixable because it
is stuff that is internal that you guys can control
and work on and get better at.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
I always try to take that approach.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
It's about us. It's about it's about our team playing
our best football, and that was not our best football.
And if we can keep that mentality to make it
about us the execution, then you know, the saying goes,
many hands make light work. And if we can all
just take our part, take your one eleventh when you're
on the field, and just own that part of it,
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then we'll start playing team football in all phases. And
that's the commitment we have to have and we can't
back off of that, and we got to demand that
from our staff and from our players.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Coach, you have mentioned that there's been some robust practices
that you feel good as you're getting ready to move
into the game. So what is maybe the disconnect from
moving from the game from practice and then going to
the game. Is it a matter of execution, is it
a matter of fundamentals? What is it that you're seeing
that it's not translating.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
I think it's all those things, Eugene, And it's belief.
It's confidence and belief.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
In each other, and I think that comes with time
and with the victories within the game that happened to
show the things that have improved. But I think that
it's collectively having that mentality like, guys.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Trust your preparation.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
We are so prepared now, all we got to do
is cut it loose on game day, trust your insincts
and play fast.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
And that's where we got to get to.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
And coach are the only reason why I said that
because I used to love playing in practice and just
the competition that you know, going against the first unit
and how much it just drew so much out of you,
and that you could go ahead and replicate that.
Speaker 7 (05:54):
So that was the reason for the question.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Absolutely, competition is right at the heart of.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
It this rookie class. It looks like we're starting to
see some strides from JT. Sanders, Shaw Smith Wade thrown
into the fire on Sunday, had a couple of the penalties,
but also had some nice moments and I know TREVN
Wallace you've put a lot on him over the last
few weeks. How would you sort of assess how those
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three have grown through these first seven games.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
I would say promising and again just like the rookie
challenges of the consistency right and seeing and making sure
that the high majority of their plays are high level plays.
You know where the flashes are great.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
You know, the execution guys making plays when the plays
come to them, that's fantastic. And for those guys, the
challenges to just continue to push the envelope so that
more and more of their place show up consistently.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
Andy's first game, of course, a win and three touchdown passes,
a lot of yards yesterday just ninety three yards in
the passing game with the two interceptions. What maybe has
obviously you don't have Thilan, there's no tailor motens, certain
things like that. But beyond that, what are some of
the things that aren't quite as effective now as they
were a couple of weeks ago in the past game.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah, first and foremost, just taking care of the football.
And then I think it's the details and execution of
the entire group, you know, and Andy's a part of that.
And that's the part that they got to be committed to,
is as a group, can we get on the same
page in our past game? Can we be we know
exactly where people are going to be at splits, alignments, landmarks,
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all those things. The whole all that urgency and attention
to detail just needs to continue to climb.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Coach, I don't know how deep you are into the
Denver film yet, but they're a team that has shown
that they can get to the quarterback. Any initial observations
from what they're able to do defense and how you
might be able to counter that.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
It's a really good front five, you know, and they
got some good rotational guys as well at the outside
linebacker spot that they bring in, and so they stay fresh,
and they get after it, and they take pride in
and rushing the passer. They take pride in and playing hard,
you know, as a full defense. So just from the
early snapshot, you know, it's a great challenge for us
up front.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
All right. Coach Dave Canalis, head coach of the Carolina
Panthers coach, thanks for visiting with.
Speaker 7 (08:15):
US safety coach.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Thanks guys.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yeah, that's Dave Canalis. A tough one on Sunday, tough
one and Jim, you know we're there, we're watching it live.
And there seemed to be a real momentum shift even
down ten nothing when Jade and Daniels went to the
locker room left the game with a rib injury. And
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we've seen enough of Marcus Mariota to know that, hey,
there's now an opportunity the stadium got quiet and just
could never quite capitalize. And there were plays where, uh,
you know, the pocket started to collapse on Mariota and
he does the thing where he dances around and in
the past the Panthers have been able to close on
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him or force him into a bad mistake. He just
seemed to have that extra beat or that extra second beat.
And you guys that were open and he didn't see.
Then he's able to see and find and complete the pass.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
Yeah, and you know where you finished as far I
was going to start as far as any quarterback in
this week, especially guys when a Heisman Trophy was a
high draft pick. When given time, if you give you know,
a backup quarterback and someone who's been around the league
a little bit of time, there could be more effect
to Andy Dalton.
Speaker 7 (09:29):
Same way.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
And he has been a Pro Bowl player in his career,
no doubt, but he's become a backup player. You give
a backup quarterback or whoever, even a young young guy
time to see and feel and read the route tree
without being pressured too much, they'll find open receivers because
also it's hard for defenses to plaster on receivers for
that long So to me, Eugene, that's the biggest thing
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is not much not only not sacks, not much pressure.
And again I think it a niche said, and it's
like we can say it, coaches can't say it. Personnel.
You don't have Jadavian Clowney, don't have Wanham, don't you
Robinson in the game yesterday, And you won't have Derek Brown,
your best football player on the team. That all that matters.
That's a lot of talent, that's a lot of experience,
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and and you can only coach and scheme so much
up and at some point the Jimmy's and Joe's matter,
and we just are down. So many guys haven't gotten
the linebacker yet. They haven't had Jordan Foller in the
secondary yet. So it's it's a lot to take on
as far as personnel.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
And along with that problem was complicated thing is that
when you don't take Kip as control. One of the
things I saw when marri Old is running around is
because there's nobody on the edge and he can get outside.
You can't let that man get outside. And all the
linemen would know that. That makes sure you keep them
corralled and keep them in that pocket where now he
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has to fight through hands and hands in his face.
But when he's able to get out of the pocket
and move around, that is problematic because now you can't plaster.
Speaker 7 (10:57):
For a very very long time. It's impossible.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
Somebody's gonna come open and he's gonna find or he's
gonna pick up ten fifteen yards running about to advance
to change. And so I saw edge control as a
problem yesterday, and that I think which coach is talking
about the fundamentals the execution, Well, you got to take
care of those edges. If you don't take care of
those edges, I don't care what quarterbacks back there, It
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does not matter.
Speaker 7 (11:20):
Whoever's back there.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
If you're not taking kid of edges, you're gonna have
problems in the passing.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yeah, and then the other part of it too, And
again it all goes back to injuries. And I get
the frustration, well, hey, why can't they stop anybody? They
can't stop anybody because again they're playing guys who would
normally be on the practice squad or second and third string.
That's kind of the heart of it. And you know,
Dave Canalis is not gonna throw anybody under the bus.
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He's not gonna say that he has not made excuses
for injuries yet this season. He easily could because it's real,
you're missing half your defense. Having said all that, there's
opportunities for some younger guys, some second year guys to
step up, and at some point you're gonna have to
take advantage of that. I look at a DJ Johnson, right,
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we need to see more there. You know, up front,
there's opportunities for a lot of these guys who may
not have that chance for much longer, or for other teams,
or when you know, you start to get some reinforcements,
they might end up back on the practice squad. Yeah,
these are opportunities to Eugene, as you know, extend your
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NFL career.
Speaker 7 (12:29):
It is.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
And whatever you're putting on that tape and whatever the
problem is that you have, whether it's a corner, safety, linebacker,
whatever that problem is, it's going to be exacerbated and
then you'll find yourself no longer in this team. You'll
find yourself demoted to a practice squad or then off
the team. And so here it is there is your
job is on the line. So all the Jimmies and
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Joel's that we talk about those guys who come up
and and and they're taking the place of Derek Brown
or some of your top guys.
Speaker 7 (13:00):
Dude, your job is on the line, you know.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
And the other part of it where the injuries really hit. Eugene,
you've lost some significant, significant veteran leadership up front.
Speaker 7 (13:10):
Yes, you have.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
And that's that's one thing you can't like. When we played,
we had Reggie White. We you know, we had Gilbert Brown,
Leroy Butler, Gene Robinson.
Speaker 7 (13:23):
We had a number of guys on.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
You guys, we had that guy.
Speaker 7 (13:26):
That's right, We had a lot of guys on the team.
Speaker 6 (13:29):
Sixteen years he did.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
He would just go ahead and assume control of a practice. Dude,
Mike Homan would let us get off and we just
assume practice and go at it with the offense because
he trusted guys and he knew he had leadership. When
you're missing the Shaq Thompson, that's that's really huge, and
you're asking a Wallas to fill in those shoes, communication,
all things has to do.
Speaker 7 (13:50):
That's really huge. And so I'm not making light to
the fact that, hey, I know the other guy's got
to step up.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Yes, we're down some guys, and that does really matter
because you lose leadership, you lose character, and you lose
the edge out there.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
What is my defense going to be like? And no,
now nobody knows.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, the offense is better than it showed on Sunday,
but the defense now for the last four games has
given up thirty four, thirty six, thirty eight forty. It's
not the Fibonacci sequence you want. We will come back
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Speaker 2 (14:28):
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Speaker 3 (14:32):
It's the consistency of what's showing up in practice with
these great preparations, the great practices, the energy and all
that for that part of it to translate to Sunday,
because we keep stacking these great weeks and continuing to
go back to the fundamentals and basics of what we're
doing in all phases. But that has to show up
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on Sunday with great energy and belief that you can
get it done. That's the biggest challenge that I have
as their head coach is how can we translate this
guys to show up on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Panther talk continues on the Carolina Panthers Radio Network.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Panthers coming off a forty to seven loss at Washington
on Sunday and the defensive struggles due to injuries continue.
A couple of things that jump out. Washington, if you
don't count the kneel down drive at the end of
the game, scored on seven of its eight drives. On Sunday,
Atlanta the previous week, if you don't count the kneel
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down at the end of the half and at the
end of the game, scored on seven of its nine drives.
Chicago six out of eleven. You know, we don't see
the other teams punter enough. And the offense, I think
is probably a middle of the road NFL offense. You know,
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you can probably score in the twenties most games, but
when you're giving up thirty plus, I don't care who
you are, you could be the greatest show on turf.
It's hard to win.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
One of the things on the laundry list that coach
Canal has had was guys not lighting upright now is
something I was going to bring up if no one
else did.
Speaker 7 (16:07):
I know.
Speaker 6 (16:08):
Is Dan Jackson's first game back. But there were times
like the who's the other Titans to not whatever his
name was, he scored his touchdown, I call it a name,
but he wasn't even lined up and so immediately Mariota
recognizes a touchdown and you're in the goal line, So
I mean there's no time to recover in a short
field like that. So things like that where it's like
we were leaving pre staff, we're leaving guys open and
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we're not let alone run fits Eugene. There's guys don't
know where to be in. It's communication, but it's also
up to you to know. It's communication. But it's up
to you to know what your scenario is and what
you're supposed to be doing in a certain place.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
And here's another thing coaches keeps talking. You know, the
last thing the sound but that we played as was
coming into this, coming into this segment, is that he's
talking about this really good practice, robust practice, doing some
really good stuff. The one thing about practice is not
like the game. That's that's the one thing that you
can't replicate, one one absolutely talking about talking about and
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you are because it's not like the game, because you're
not gonna hit, you're not gonna go ahead and hit
and then you're gonna like pull off of when you
have a fifty to fifty ball, you might let the
receiver catch the ball even though you're there to go
ahead and knock the ball down, but doesn't mean that
you're gonna knock the ball down. And so trying to
duplicate that in practice. It's like when we each have
robust practices. When I'm playing with Green Bay or when
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I'm playing with Seattle, there would be robust practice where
you're you're knocking that ball out and you you know,
it's a real thud temple, you're going at it, And
so I don't think that it's the same thing that
you're doing really going at it because you can't get
your guys hurt.
Speaker 7 (17:44):
You you gotta pull off.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
Yeah, I know it's NFLPA thing. You can't you can't practice,
you can't play practice. You desated practices where you can
do that.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
I think it's a different scale when I think about
the robust practice, because you know it's it seems to
be that way.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Yeah, the other part and yeah, it's the elephant in
the room. But we'd be remiss if we didn't address
it because a lot of questions in today's press conference
were about the topic, and I guess pun intended with
the elephant reference. Bryce Young from ra Alabama quarterback Heisman
Trophy winner, benched after Game two, comes in late in
the game mop up duty two for two minus four yards.
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Washington had its second string. I don't know if you
make much of that, the same way you don't make
a whole lot of his mop up duty against Chicago.
But you know, Eugene, how do you see that right now?
Speaker 5 (18:35):
I see it as a young man waiting to get
back in there to see to show that he could
be that guy. But I don't think that given the
nature of what we look like right now offensively and defensively,
it doesn't matter what quarterback you have back there. That's
not a knock on you, Bryce, But it doesn't help
you at all because it won't. It won't matter because
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we're gonna have to play catchup. And unless our office
is super to postella and we can go ahead and
go seventy percent run and then thirty percent pass and
control the clock, then it warrants, oh okay, something can happen.
Speaker 7 (19:11):
But when our defense is given up.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Too many too much yardists too many testiles, too much stuff.
You got to get back in the game by throwing
the rock, and you can't throw the ball latterly, and
the coach will have to let you loose. And unfortunately,
I think that this it doesn't seem that coach wants
to go ahead and do that, to be that aggressive
throwing the ball down the field. So I think it's
gonna be it will hurt him in the long run.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
And the reality is during again, when you get into
the season, unlike training camp, you can only prepare one
quarterback to be the starter. You prepare for coming in
that injury may happen, but you can only prep one
quarterback to be the guy that's gonna play. So you
would have to like move Andy out of that and
put Bryce into that and commit to that. It's that
one of the things like hey, let's try this. It's
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like not really because it's it's not the same thing.
If you get to a point again they're one and six.
If you get to the point we're just mathematically eliminated,
is really nothing at that point because you're not going
to the postseason. There's nothing wrong with putting Bryce in
and see what you got it. But I mean a
lot of games to go. It's ten games ago. I
just think that that's not the time and hopefully we
win some games between now and then and kick that
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can down the road and keep it interesting. And I
think for the sake of the team, you want to
run the offense. You want to have other guys that practice.
It's not just about the quarterback. You want the lineman
for their work, the receivers for their route running for Cuba.
You still want to run the offense and give yourself
the best chance to compete every week.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
Unless he gets hurt, unless Don't gets hurt, then it's
totally different.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
And you put them in, well, then it changes. And
and again you know the one kind of a low
hanging fruit narrative that's out there, and you see it
on message boards and you see it on social media
as well. Oh, if you don't think you're gonna win
a lot of games, then go play Bryce Young. There's
a reality in the locker room. Eugene, Yes, right, the
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other fifty two guys want the guy who's at quarterback
to be the best option. And right now, listen, at
this stage, Andy Dalton is still the best option. The
other part of it is. You know, players have livelihoods
tanking to them, that's a non starter. It's not part
of the equation. Right, Nobody thinks like that in the
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locker room. Nobody's gonna play like that. If they do,
they're not going to play very much longer. And the
other part of this, and you've seen it with teams
that have had a lot of success over the years
in the draft that are good teams, like the Ravens,
like the Seahawks, like the forty nine ers. Right, draft
position is overrated. It's who you draft and how you draft.
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And I think that matters more because there's certain teams
we see them picking near the top of the draft
all the time and it's like, okay, you're picking amongst
the best players, and why are you still picking at
the top of the draft?
Speaker 7 (21:55):
Right?
Speaker 6 (21:55):
Patrick Mahomes is not the first pick? What was he
like tenth? I'm no anyway, he wasn't like nowhere near
the top.
Speaker 7 (22:02):
Neither was Tom Brady.
Speaker 6 (22:03):
Tom Brady was everyone always has to bring up to
Tom Brady once in our life.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Was Dak Presscott third fourth rounder?
Speaker 6 (22:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Right, Jalen Hurts went into the second round. Jake Delon Purty.
Jake Diloon on Draft.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
Jacktlan was an NFL Europe took us to a Super Bowl. Yeah,
so it could come from all kinds of places.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Was backing up Kurt Warner in NFL Europe.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
Oh, that's right, he was backing up cur of the
I all the way over there, backing up Kurt Warner.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Who at the time, who at the time was you know,
fresh off being a grocery clerk pretty much exactly.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
Yeah, what a golden era of NFL Europe that was. Yeah,
Kurt Wonder and Jake Diloone.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
I remember Jake talking about it and he's telling the
story and he goes, you know, it's me and this
other guy and we're going back and forth and he's
pretty good. And then you know, my confidence is shot
because I lost the job to some arena league football
guy who was stuck in grocery shelves. And then a
few years later, oh, hey, that's the NFL MVP. Maybe
maybe I had something there and Jake turned out.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
To be maybe it was just getting the grocery stores and.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
See, yeah, but here's the best. But I think there's
a lot more there, and there's a lot more season
and you know, the hope is starting this weekend in Denver,
that the Panthers can start to make up some ground,
start to just play better, put that foundation in place
that I know Dave Canalis wants to see at the
end of his first year here in.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
Karen slow the game down and albut run the ball.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Yeah, we got more to do here. On Panther Talk,
We're gonna get a Broncos insider, Susie Wrgan's gonna join us,
and then Jim Zokie's interview with KK Short. That's all
to come here on Panther Talk presented by Bosh power
Tools on the Carolina Panthers Radio Network.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
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Speaker 8 (23:45):
We got out of our hands quick and got away
from us, and we can't come out like that. We
can't start the way we did. The turnovers hurt us.
I mean, we really have to put this behind it.
But also we have to look ourselves in the mirror
and say, all right, why do these games keep going
like this? I think that's the biggest thing for us.
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There's so many little details that we're going to go
back and look at and we're going to say we
have to have certain things happen. We have to make
sure that we have a good understanding of everything that
we're doing. And when you don't, it turns out like
it did today. And so I think we've got to
be honest and real and everybody has to do it.
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And I'm talking to myself too. So we've got to
make sure that when we come out on Sundays, we
have to perform. We have to know all the ins
and outs of everything that we're doing and go out
there and do our job.
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Talking with a great KK Short. Of course, part of
that Panthers Super Bowl fifty team, two time Pro Bowl player,
and we've been talking with a lot of guys obviously
about that special season coach Ron Rivera, the bond on
that team, I mean, as you look back at that,
does that help ease and overcome the fact you didn't
win that last game, just the time you guys had,
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just to the bonding and just what an incredible seventeen
to one record was heading into that game.
Speaker 9 (25:42):
You can never get over that. I mean, as you
get into this league and you realize when you get
to year six that he wasn't where you was at
a year three. You know, it's a big difference, and
you know, you kind of feel like he took advantage
of the time that you're in the league. And just
having just look back at that twenty fifteen year with
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the coaches and the players and you know, the organization period,
it was just an unbelievable time that we didn't we
took for granted because you look back now, it's kind
of like I wish I would you know, and we
wish we would have won. So that was that's the
main thing of just trying to you can't put the
pieces back together. You know as once it scattered, it
was just all done. So just going back and looking
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at that like you want to wish you could just
tomorrow and put it back together and you know, and
win that game.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
But you know, and again you win and lose.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
As a team.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
Peyton Manning didn't have much of anything. You guys shut
him down. I mean, their their offense came from short fields,
off of takeaways and so forth. As far as what
you guys did, and I'm not trying to separate the
team in the categories here. Defensively, it was a really
good defensive performance by the.
Speaker 9 (26:46):
Team, Yeah, for sure. And I think that whole year
and I think throughout the league. You know, it's capitalized
on the mistakes and their defense did and they took
advantage of that. And then we didn't meet the expectations
that we should have. So, you know, defense, we wish
we can get it back. But you know, those guys
played a good game, but we wish we could have
played We should have played better.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
Every guy I've talked to you us so far about
that game that was part of that team never went
back and watched it. I mean you lived it in
real time. Did you ever go back or see some
of it, or you just kind of left it down
the field.
Speaker 9 (27:18):
Only time I really talk about it is when I'm
around the Carolinas and the Panthers and somebody asks about
those questions. It's one of those saft spots where it
hurts when you talk about it. So me going back
to watch it, I don't think I ever will, but
you know, to tell the average person that the acts.
You know, did I enjoy that game? I enjoyed the moment,
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But what was you could have capitalized on it? You?
Speaker 6 (27:41):
Individually? That was probably your best season, your Pro Bowl
player that year as well. You have some great teammates.
Obviously y'all did it collectively there, but what kind of
came together for you at that moment of your career?
Speaker 9 (27:53):
That was year three for me and you hear Coach
Wash and Sam Mills, those guys preach, preach, preach.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
From the day we got here.
Speaker 9 (28:02):
Is as you start to learn the game, as you
start to play better, as you start to understand what's
your role here, things will slow down. And I think
that's when your three hit me of what they expected
me to do, my expectations for myself and what could
I do to help this team. And that's where it
took me from a different from level one to level
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three to understand that just be yourself, go play a game,
and not worry about the expectations people have on you,
and just and just play. And that's what I did.
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Panthers will travel to Denver, the Sunshine State, this weekend.
It is week eight of the NFL. They'll take on
the Broncos and to get a little intel on Denver,
we bring in Susie Wargan, who is the Broncos sideline reporter. Susie,
thank you for joining us on this Monday. And I
guess we got to start with with Sean Payton, who
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a lot of Panther fans are familiar with with him
being in New Orleans forever. We get to see him
again now as the head coach for the Broncos. What
is different in year two? What is he brought to
that franchise since he's been there.
Speaker 10 (29:32):
Oh that's such a great question, and thanks for having me, guys,
I appreciate it. So it's been a really interesting year.
I think that it's you know, a lot to talk
about Russell Wilson and what he did yesterday with the Steelers,
and that's been probably the biggest change I think that
we have seen is Russ not being here. So now
what does Sean Payton do with the guy that he
drafts with bon Nix and how much can that change?
(29:55):
You know? Defensively, we lost a couple and we lost
a key guy to you guys, with Josie Jewell going
to the Panthers, and so they've responded, well, We've now
lost a couple of guys in there with Alex Singleton,
but now Cody Barton stepped up in his place. So defensively,
you know, things are going really well. Offensively, still, I
think there's still lots of question marks out there somewhere
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answered last Thursday as to how this offense works under
Sean Payton. So that's what we're seeing. The biggest difference
is just what is Bonick spring. Can we get a
balanced offense going, Can we get the pieces together to
get some points on the board because that's what we
really need to see, and that was everybody kind of
pointed the finger and blamed ruff last year. But now
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at the beginning of the year, we were seeing some
of the same things, but it seems to be getting better,
so we're hoping that it is.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
Is there any this is Eugene, I'm sorry. Is there
any concern that you know, Nick ran for above with
seventy five yards the other day? Is there any concern
about him being that running quarterback as as opposed of
being that passing quarterback.
Speaker 10 (30:56):
Well, honestly, Jane, we'll take our rushing yards however we
can get them. If it's Bow getting those yards, hey
we'll take it. That's fine. But no, I mean, I
think the point is I mean, you know, yeah, he's
got a great arm, and we saw what he could
do in college, so we do want to see what
he can do from a throwing perspective. But that is
(31:17):
the beauty of bo I mean, we see him get
out of he got out of some things Thursday night
where you're like, my gosh, how is he maneuvering around
and not getting sacked there? And you know, rusted. Some
of the same stuff when he was with us. He's
older and not as mobile as bow is. But I
do think, you know, what is Sean Payton's plan for him?
Speaker 9 (31:35):
Does?
Speaker 10 (31:35):
He probably wanted to throw, probably, but also you know
he had Drew Brees in New Orleans and Drew was
pretty mobile too, so he likes that kind of quarterback.
And like I said, I mean, we just we need
some balance, and so to have a game that we
had the other night with the rushing yards that we
have between him and Chavante breaking through was huge. So
we'll we'll, we'll take them. Anything on the ground is good,
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doesn't matter who what number it is.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
Yeah, I hear you, Hey, Susie, Jim Zoki. Watch of
course the Thursday night game at New Orleans. What did
that mean to Sean? Obviously is very complimentary of being
back in that place with the Saints organization, but I
don't mean like like showing them something. But it seems
almost sentimental for him being back down there.
Speaker 10 (32:14):
Oh, very much. So it was. Yeah, In fact, he
talked a lot afterwards. I sat in the press conference
because we had all of our equipment in there, so
it's kind of getting all of our stuff together and
listening to what he said, and he was very retrospective.
You can tell that New Orleans means a lot to him.
He actually went to the stadium earlier before all of
our buses went. We always go with the team, and
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you know, I think had had some time there to
kind of get some of those things out of the way,
the emotional part of it. They ran a video for
Drew Brees at halftime. They put him in their Hall
of Fame at halftime, and he was in that video
and so saying, you know, his congratulations. So it's kind
of interesting to see, you know, him being that. And
then some of the Saints press were in that press
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conference as well, and he acknowledged a couple of when
he was talking. But I think it meant a lot
for him.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
To go back.
Speaker 10 (33:03):
It didn't necessarily, I mean, of course he wanted to win,
but it wasn't like I'm sticking it to the Saints
or anything like that. It was emotional, especially with Breeze
being there and just coming back and kind of having
that extra time too, although we didn't have much time
to think about it leading up to it, since it
was the Thursday game. So maybe that was you know,
good and bad didn't have the big build up of
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going back to New Orleans, but it did. It meant
a lot to him to go back there, and there
were lots of hugs. I mean, there's a bunch of
guys that are on our staff that used to be
on the Saints staff, So there were a lot of
bro hugs happening in a pre game.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Susie. I look at this defense and it's been evident
in a few games this season where they get you
in second and long, third and long, they can get
to the quarterback, and it seems like it's just more
than one guy. What has made this pass rush so
lethal this season?
Speaker 10 (33:52):
You know, it's interesting, it's a combination. Our linebackers are
just and it doesn't matter who's in there, as we've seen,
I mean, dug, but it doesn't. With the exit of
Alex Singleton when we lost him to the ACL injury,
Cody Barton steps in gets the green dot. He's the
guy that's, you know, the quarterback of the defense now.
And we just got guys, I mean Jonathan Cooper, our
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new rookie, Jonah Ellis whose dad played in the NFL.
He's amazing. I mean, they just and they're coming from everywhere.
I want to say, I can't remember how many it
was leading into Thursday's game. I think it was ten
different guys with sacks, and now we're up to twelve
or something like that. So it's like they're coming from
all over the place and now we're up to I
believe it's twenty eight. I kind of I didn't keep
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track of what was going on yesterday with all the stacks,
but it's pretty amazing where it's coming from. And really
it is. It's that linebacking corn. It doesn't matter who
Vance Joseph's putting in there, but they're getting to the
quarterback consistently. And you know, sadly it may happen on
Sunday too with Andy. We'll see, right, So what.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
Is the Special Team's return game giving you guys with mems?
Speaker 10 (34:59):
Oh a lot, Yeah, Marvin mams, Marvin's Marvin's interesting and
we love Marvin. He's a great guy. His parents are
always at the game, so just kind of one of
those those good kids that you want to root for,
and he has the ability to break out. And I
think we're all we've been kind of waiting, like, all right,
here comes Marvin, Here comes Marvin and then every once
in a while he's he's popping out and getting some
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extra yards. So he's got some good explosiveness to him
and is really kind of that guy that we that
we like having in the back there to you know,
hopefully break out a big old game on.
Speaker 7 (35:33):
Our turn, Susie.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
Last thing is having a question just a comment from
me the listener is my son lives in Denver. We
were out there. We saw the food fighters in August
at Mile High Stadium. It's a great town you live in.
We enjoyed it out there. What's the weather looking like
for this weekend in general?
Speaker 9 (35:47):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (35:47):
You know what.
Speaker 10 (35:48):
I looked ahead and we are about at seventy five
I believe, So we're wow, really nice October days. Yeah,
let me see if seventy six, I'm sorry for a
high so it'll be that, you know, Panthers.
Speaker 11 (36:01):
No, well, it could change anytime. No, I'm telling you
all right, that is very true, Susie. Before we let
you go. For Panther fans who are thinking of making
the trip or who are making the trip, you gotta
any restaurant recommendations.
Speaker 7 (36:16):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Is it low dough?
Speaker 2 (36:17):
So dough?
Speaker 1 (36:18):
What's it?
Speaker 10 (36:18):
Called go down to Lodos. Yet there's a lot of
great restaurants down by coors Field. McGregor Square is right
next to coors Field. There's some great restaurants in there.
If you go a little south to our Denver Tech Center,
that's where a lot of our really nice steakhouses are.
We've got to That's where Shanahan's is. We've got a
Del Frisco some of those, So you can find all
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kinds of great places to eat. But really downtown, I mean,
there's there's an Always at the Ritz Carlton, So if
you're looking for some some steak or any kind of
those food items, you're gonna find a lot of good stuff.
Speaker 6 (36:50):
Gene will not support a place called always no more,
no more?
Speaker 5 (36:56):
Noways does in Lway, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Susie Warden from the Denver Broncos broadcast team. She patrols
the sideline. Susie, appreciate you coming on and we'll catch
up with you in person on Sunday.
Speaker 7 (37:11):
Seventy yard post ride over to about.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
That Eugene was doing so well now and now we've
taken him back. Now we've taken him back.
Speaker 6 (37:22):
We lost Langton too because he grew up a Chiefs fans.
Speaker 7 (37:25):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
La has provided some misery for a lot of fan bases.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
I have four in this uption on him when we
used to go back and forth, and I'm telling you
he is one of the best quarterback. It reminds me
a lot of Cam Newton, that size, but his arm
able to throw the ball. I said, I will always
stay back because he could throw the ball seventy yards.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
I grew up in Cleveland. You think I like Lway.
Speaker 7 (37:45):
Oh, yes, that's right. Oh that's right. You're right about that.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Oh yeah, Ernest Byner fumbles right, and then that was twice,
but the drive was so I'll give you mine. I
grew up a Jets fan in New Jersey. Ninety eight
AFC Championship game. Jets are up ten nothing at the
half against Denver, about to go to the Super Bowl.
I think would have played your Falcons right, right? And yeah,
second half was it? Twenty three to ten was the
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final score.
Speaker 6 (38:09):
It's sattur. We're not going to always always.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
No, there's one place where not going. It's it's to always.
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Final segment here on Panther Talking. Eh, Jim, Eugene, you
over the lay nightmares, Eugene.
Speaker 7 (38:37):
Yes, I'm over it, dude. My goodness.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
Alwi was a formidable quarterback. Really cut my teeth against him,
and we went back and forth when I played for
the Seattle Old AFC West and got to face him
in the Super Bowl twice and got to one time.
Speaker 7 (38:54):
I got him and he got me. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 5 (38:56):
It was always a battle and one of my favorite
quarterbacks and one of my best memories is I asked
him to say, could you sign a helmet for me?
Because he's one of the best quarterbacks I've ever faced,
And so I have his helmet with his signature on it.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
So I'll tell you what, But you will not be
going to his restaurant.
Speaker 7 (39:14):
No, I'm not going to always restaurant. It's funny.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Speaking of Super Bowls, the last time the Broncos were
in the postseason, their last playoff win was Super Bowl
fifty against against the Panthers. They have not been in
the Super Bowl since and Peyton Manning retires. Revolving door
quarterbacks Simeon Flacco, Yeah, you just go on and on,
(39:37):
Russell Wilson, now bow Nicks. Uh, it's just been a
revolving door.
Speaker 6 (39:42):
Ktree caught it. But uh, that was such a such
a disappointing game. I mean, their defense was phenomenal, no doubt,
but Peyton Manning threw for like one hundred and forty
yards no touchdowns in that game.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
I thought that was the most pivotal play that Kotrie Cotre. Yeah,
because he caught.
Speaker 6 (39:59):
That ball, used to hold down in distance after and
if he.
Speaker 5 (40:01):
Catches it cleanly, the safety, the free safety was on
a position he's going to go ahead and walk in
for a test unless he's caught by the corner. And
I was like, wow, he catches clearly, It's going to
be a totally different game, totally different games that doesn't
catch you Connedy Yeah, and then you know.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Von Miller gets the hit on cam and you know
the fumble and unfortunately we know the rest who was.
Speaker 6 (40:24):
Our defensive end in that game that had a great game.
Speaker 7 (40:26):
It was I was just.
Speaker 5 (40:29):
If I could he got an interception too.
Speaker 6 (40:33):
No, I'm sorry I brought it up now. Anyway, Anyway,
he had the same number of sacks. He had an interception,
as he said, and I got to have a vote
in who the MVP is. But the MVP has coming
the winning team, so he would have been the m
v P if we had won. And as soon as
we remember his name next week, we'll tell you who that.
(40:55):
Yeah he got sacks, Yeah, at an.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Intersection, NFLS, an interception, fumble recovery, and a force full.
Speaker 6 (41:05):
You've literally made more impact plays than von Miller did.
But we lost.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
You lost.
Speaker 6 (41:08):
There's only coney wherever you are.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Cony ely, cony eally to sign off.
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Speaker 3 (00:18):
We got to just go back to the film. We
got to go back to the breakdowns of the runs
early on, the breakdowns in the pass game, and then
certainly on the defensive side, just all across the board.
You know, it's returning to the fundamentals and having the
toughness and the ability to, you know, to improve those things.
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Speaker 1 (00:49):
Welcome to Panther Talk, Monday, October twenty First, it was
a promising start on Sunday opening drive. Panthers get inside
the Washington thirty and then the interception returned for a
touchdown by Dante Fowler, and then a snowball turned into
an avalanche. You kind of heard there from Dave Canalis.
If you listen to her post game. After the game,
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coach addressed that as well, he has had a chance
to look at the film. It is tell the truth Monday,
let's bring in the head coach of the Panthers, Dave
Canalis and coach for those that didn't watch a press
conference this afternoon, you had a chance to kind of
go through the film and see what was there and
what was the truth revealed to you from this past game.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Yeah, you know, it always starts with the ball.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
You know, I'm going to say that first and foremost,
and that'll always be true from there. You know, I
was I saw what I saw in film was a
group that was not executing from a fundamental standpoint. We
struggled to get lined up at times, some communication things
defensively certainly fitting the run game up and in general,
(01:55):
you know, it just it felt like a group that
wasn't able to translate the good work we're putting in
during a week and have it come up on Sunday
and again, you know you mentioned it, but certainly you know,
starting the starting with a nice drive and we've done
a really good job, you know, early in games, getting
the ball moving, getting into scoring position and and you know,
(02:18):
finding a way in that situation right there, to come
away with points and just.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
And and get the game started off though we wanted to.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah, and Coach, I know you you have not made
excuses for injuries, but it's real. And when you're down
six of the projected front seven that you thought you
had going into the season, that is very real. Uh,
is there anything that that you can do besides just
kind of wait until you get some healthy reinforcements.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Ania, It's it's right to the fundamentals. And and when
we get these new faces playing football together, it's about trust.
It's about everybody doing their job, doing their part. And
that's the truth of it.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
You know.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
It's like, you know, we're not nobody's going to feel
sorry for us. It's like, here we go. We got
to get right to our football. Let's look at the tape,
you know, with this group playing together, and let's find
a way to all do our jobs and hold each
other accountable across the board.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
So, Coach, when you guys evaluate and take a look
at what you guys need to do, what is the
sample size that you do. Do you go back two games,
three games? Do you just concentrate on the first game
or the last game that you just play, So what
is your sample sides that you use to go ahead
and to move forward.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
We look at all of it, of course, Eugene, because
we know that teams are going to see, you know,
just kind of looking through the last you know, the
games that we've had and try to replicate the success
that defenses have had against our offense, offenses have had
against our defenses, and those things. So we have to
have all those things in mind, and then the discipline
of it. The way that we can help our guys
(03:52):
is to look at what happened yesterday and really this
is the most relevant piece of information that we have
with this group that we're asking to execute, you know,
so that so we can give them something tangible to
work on.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
A lot of the things you describe obviously we're you know,
self inflicted type wounds. Of course, give a Washington credit
for the things they do too. But on one hand
it's frustrating, But on the other hand, does it give
you some hope that it's obviously more fixable because it
is stuff that is internal that you guys can control
and work on and get better at.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
I always try to take that approach.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
It's about us. It's about it's about our team playing
our best football, and that was not our best football.
And if we can keep that mentality to make it
about us the execution, then you know, the saying goes,
many hands make light work. And if we can all
just take our part, take your one eleventh when you're
on the field, and just own that part of it,
(04:46):
then we'll start playing team football in all phases. And
that's the commitment we have to have and we can't
back off of that, and we got to demand that
from our staff and from our players.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Coach, you have mentioned that there's been some robust practices
that you feel good as you're getting ready to move
into the game. So what is maybe the disconnect from
moving from the game from practice and then going to
the game. Is it a matter of execution, is it
a matter of fundamentals? What is it that you're seeing
that it's not translating.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
I think it's all those things, Eugene, And it's belief.
It's confidence and belief.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
In each other, and I think that comes with time
and with the victories within the game that happened to
show the things that have improved. But I think that
it's collectively having that mentality like, guys.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Trust your preparation.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
We are so prepared now, all we got to do
is cut it loose on game day, trust your insincts
and play fast.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
And that's where we got to get to.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
And coach are the only reason why I said that
because I used to love playing in practice and just
the competition that you know, going against the first unit
and how much it just drew so much out of you,
and that you could go ahead and replicate that.
Speaker 7 (05:54):
So that was the reason for the question.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Absolutely, competition is right at the heart of.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
It this rookie class. It looks like we're starting to
see some strides from JT. Sanders, Shaw Smith Wade thrown
into the fire on Sunday, had a couple of the penalties,
but also had some nice moments and I know TREVN
Wallace you've put a lot on him over the last
few weeks. How would you sort of assess how those
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three have grown through these first seven games.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
I would say promising and again just like the rookie
challenges of the consistency right and seeing and making sure
that the high majority of their plays are high level plays.
You know where the flashes are great.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
You know, the execution guys making plays when the plays
come to them, that's fantastic. And for those guys, the
challenges to just continue to push the envelope so that
more and more of their place show up consistently.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
Andy's first game, of course, a win and three touchdown passes,
a lot of yards yesterday just ninety three yards in
the passing game with the two interceptions. What maybe has
obviously you don't have Thilan, there's no tailor motens, certain
things like that. But beyond that, what are some of
the things that aren't quite as effective now as they
were a couple of weeks ago in the past game.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah, first and foremost, just taking care of the football.
And then I think it's the details and execution of
the entire group, you know, and Andy's a part of that.
And that's the part that they got to be committed to,
is as a group, can we get on the same
page in our past game? Can we be we know
exactly where people are going to be at splits, alignments, landmarks,
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all those things. The whole all that urgency and attention
to detail just needs to continue to climb.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Coach, I don't know how deep you are into the
Denver film yet, but they're a team that has shown
that they can get to the quarterback. Any initial observations
from what they're able to do defense and how you
might be able to counter that.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
It's a really good front five, you know, and they
got some good rotational guys as well at the outside
linebacker spot that they bring in, and so they stay fresh,
and they get after it, and they take pride in
and rushing the passer. They take pride in and playing hard,
you know, as a full defense. So just from the
early snapshot, you know, it's a great challenge for us
up front.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
All right. Coach Dave Canalis, head coach of the Carolina
Panthers coach, thanks for visiting with.
Speaker 7 (08:15):
US safety coach.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Thanks guys.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yeah, that's Dave Canalis. A tough one on Sunday, tough
one and Jim, you know we're there, we're watching it live.
And there seemed to be a real momentum shift even
down ten nothing when Jade and Daniels went to the
locker room left the game with a rib injury. And
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we've seen enough of Marcus Mariota to know that, hey,
there's now an opportunity the stadium got quiet and just
could never quite capitalize. And there were plays where, uh,
you know, the pocket started to collapse on Mariota and
he does the thing where he dances around and in
the past the Panthers have been able to close on
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him or force him into a bad mistake. He just
seemed to have that extra beat or that extra second beat.
And you guys that were open and he didn't see.
Then he's able to see and find and complete the pass.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
Yeah, and you know where you finished as far I
was going to start as far as any quarterback in
this week, especially guys when a Heisman Trophy was a
high draft pick. When given time, if you give you know,
a backup quarterback and someone who's been around the league
a little bit of time, there could be more effect
to Andy Dalton.
Speaker 7 (09:29):
Same way.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
And he has been a Pro Bowl player in his career,
no doubt, but he's become a backup player. You give
a backup quarterback or whoever, even a young young guy
time to see and feel and read the route tree
without being pressured too much, they'll find open receivers because
also it's hard for defenses to plaster on receivers for
that long So to me, Eugene, that's the biggest thing
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is not much not only not sacks, not much pressure.
And again I think it a niche said, and it's
like we can say it, coaches can't say it. Personnel.
You don't have Jadavian Clowney, don't have Wanham, don't you
Robinson in the game yesterday, And you won't have Derek Brown,
your best football player on the team. That all that matters.
That's a lot of talent, that's a lot of experience,
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and and you can only coach and scheme so much
up and at some point the Jimmy's and Joe's matter,
and we just are down. So many guys haven't gotten
the linebacker yet. They haven't had Jordan Foller in the
secondary yet. So it's it's a lot to take on
as far as personnel.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
And along with that problem was complicated thing is that
when you don't take Kip as control. One of the
things I saw when marri Old is running around is
because there's nobody on the edge and he can get outside.
You can't let that man get outside. And all the
linemen would know that. That makes sure you keep them
corralled and keep them in that pocket where now he
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has to fight through hands and hands in his face.
But when he's able to get out of the pocket
and move around, that is problematic because now you can't plaster.
Speaker 7 (10:57):
For a very very long time. It's impossible.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
Somebody's gonna come open and he's gonna find or he's
gonna pick up ten fifteen yards running about to advance
to change. And so I saw edge control as a
problem yesterday, and that I think which coach is talking
about the fundamentals the execution, Well, you got to take
care of those edges. If you don't take care of
those edges, I don't care what quarterbacks back there, It
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does not matter.
Speaker 7 (11:20):
Whoever's back there.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
If you're not taking kid of edges, you're gonna have
problems in the passing.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yeah, and then the other part of it too, And
again it all goes back to injuries. And I get
the frustration, well, hey, why can't they stop anybody? They
can't stop anybody because again they're playing guys who would
normally be on the practice squad or second and third string.
That's kind of the heart of it. And you know,
Dave Canalis is not gonna throw anybody under the bus.
(11:45):
He's not gonna say that he has not made excuses
for injuries yet this season. He easily could because it's real,
you're missing half your defense. Having said all that, there's
opportunities for some younger guys, some second year guys to
step up, and at some point you're gonna have to
take advantage of that. I look at a DJ Johnson, right,
(12:06):
we need to see more there. You know, up front,
there's opportunities for a lot of these guys who may
not have that chance for much longer, or for other teams,
or when you know, you start to get some reinforcements,
they might end up back on the practice squad. Yeah,
these are opportunities to Eugene, as you know, extend your
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NFL career.
Speaker 7 (12:29):
It is.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
And whatever you're putting on that tape and whatever the
problem is that you have, whether it's a corner, safety, linebacker,
whatever that problem is, it's going to be exacerbated and
then you'll find yourself no longer in this team. You'll
find yourself demoted to a practice squad or then off
the team. And so here it is there is your
job is on the line. So all the Jimmies and
(12:52):
Joel's that we talk about those guys who come up
and and and they're taking the place of Derek Brown
or some of your top guys.
Speaker 7 (13:00):
Dude, your job is on the line, you know.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
And the other part of it where the injuries really hit. Eugene,
you've lost some significant, significant veteran leadership up front.
Speaker 7 (13:10):
Yes, you have.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
And that's that's one thing you can't like. When we played,
we had Reggie White. We you know, we had Gilbert Brown,
Leroy Butler, Gene Robinson.
Speaker 7 (13:23):
We had a number of guys on.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
You guys, we had that guy.
Speaker 7 (13:26):
That's right, We had a lot of guys on the team.
Speaker 6 (13:29):
Sixteen years he did.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
He would just go ahead and assume control of a practice. Dude,
Mike Homan would let us get off and we just
assume practice and go at it with the offense because
he trusted guys and he knew he had leadership. When
you're missing the Shaq Thompson, that's that's really huge, and
you're asking a Wallas to fill in those shoes, communication,
all things has to do.
Speaker 7 (13:50):
That's really huge. And so I'm not making light to
the fact that, hey, I know the other guy's got
to step up.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Yes, we're down some guys, and that does really matter
because you lose leadership, you lose character, and you lose
the edge out there.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
What is my defense going to be like? And no,
now nobody knows.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, the offense is better than it showed on Sunday,
but the defense now for the last four games has
given up thirty four, thirty six, thirty eight forty. It's
not the Fibonacci sequence you want. We will come back
with more. Panther Talk presented by Bosh Power Tools here
on the Carolina Panthers Radio Network.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
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Speaker 3 (14:32):
It's the consistency of what's showing up in practice with
these great preparations, the great practices, the energy and all
that for that part of it to translate to Sunday,
because we keep stacking these great weeks and continuing to
go back to the fundamentals and basics of what we're
doing in all phases. But that has to show up
(14:53):
on Sunday with great energy and belief that you can
get it done. That's the biggest challenge that I have
as their head coach is how can we translate this
guys to show up on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Panther talk continues on the Carolina Panthers Radio Network.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Panthers coming off a forty to seven loss at Washington
on Sunday and the defensive struggles due to injuries continue.
A couple of things that jump out. Washington, if you
don't count the kneel down drive at the end of
the game, scored on seven of its eight drives. On Sunday,
Atlanta the previous week, if you don't count the kneel
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down at the end of the half and at the
end of the game, scored on seven of its nine drives.
Chicago six out of eleven. You know, we don't see
the other teams punter enough. And the offense, I think
is probably a middle of the road NFL offense. You know,
(15:50):
you can probably score in the twenties most games, but
when you're giving up thirty plus, I don't care who
you are, you could be the greatest show on turf.
It's hard to win.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
One of the things on the laundry list that coach
Canal has had was guys not lighting upright now is
something I was going to bring up if no one
else did.
Speaker 7 (16:07):
I know.
Speaker 6 (16:08):
Is Dan Jackson's first game back. But there were times
like the who's the other Titans to not whatever his
name was, he scored his touchdown, I call it a name,
but he wasn't even lined up and so immediately Mariota
recognizes a touchdown and you're in the goal line, So
I mean there's no time to recover in a short
field like that. So things like that where it's like
we were leaving pre staff, we're leaving guys open and
(16:32):
we're not let alone run fits Eugene. There's guys don't
know where to be in. It's communication, but it's also
up to you to know. It's communication. But it's up
to you to know what your scenario is and what
you're supposed to be doing in a certain place.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
And here's another thing coaches keeps talking. You know, the
last thing the sound but that we played as was
coming into this, coming into this segment, is that he's
talking about this really good practice, robust practice, doing some
really good stuff. The one thing about practice is not
like the game. That's that's the one thing that you
can't replicate, one one absolutely talking about talking about and
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you are because it's not like the game, because you're
not gonna hit, you're not gonna go ahead and hit
and then you're gonna like pull off of when you
have a fifty to fifty ball, you might let the
receiver catch the ball even though you're there to go
ahead and knock the ball down, but doesn't mean that
you're gonna knock the ball down. And so trying to
duplicate that in practice. It's like when we each have
robust practices. When I'm playing with Green Bay or when
(17:28):
I'm playing with Seattle, there would be robust practice where
you're you're knocking that ball out and you you know,
it's a real thud temple, you're going at it, And
so I don't think that it's the same thing that
you're doing really going at it because you can't get
your guys hurt.
Speaker 7 (17:44):
You you gotta pull off.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
Yeah, I know it's NFLPA thing. You can't you can't practice,
you can't play practice. You desated practices where you can
do that.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
I think it's a different scale when I think about
the robust practice, because you know it's it seems to
be that way.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Yeah, the other part and yeah, it's the elephant in
the room. But we'd be remiss if we didn't address
it because a lot of questions in today's press conference
were about the topic, and I guess pun intended with
the elephant reference. Bryce Young from ra Alabama quarterback Heisman
Trophy winner, benched after Game two, comes in late in
the game mop up duty two for two minus four yards.
(18:22):
Washington had its second string. I don't know if you
make much of that, the same way you don't make
a whole lot of his mop up duty against Chicago.
But you know, Eugene, how do you see that right now?
Speaker 5 (18:35):
I see it as a young man waiting to get
back in there to see to show that he could
be that guy. But I don't think that given the
nature of what we look like right now offensively and defensively,
it doesn't matter what quarterback you have back there. That's
not a knock on you, Bryce, But it doesn't help
you at all because it won't. It won't matter because
(18:57):
we're gonna have to play catchup. And unless our office
is super to postella and we can go ahead and
go seventy percent run and then thirty percent pass and
control the clock, then it warrants, oh okay, something can happen.
Speaker 7 (19:11):
But when our defense is given up.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Too many too much yardists too many testiles, too much stuff.
You got to get back in the game by throwing
the rock, and you can't throw the ball latterly, and
the coach will have to let you loose. And unfortunately,
I think that this it doesn't seem that coach wants
to go ahead and do that, to be that aggressive
throwing the ball down the field. So I think it's
gonna be it will hurt him in the long run.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
And the reality is during again, when you get into
the season, unlike training camp, you can only prepare one
quarterback to be the starter. You prepare for coming in
that injury may happen, but you can only prep one
quarterback to be the guy that's gonna play. So you
would have to like move Andy out of that and
put Bryce into that and commit to that. It's that
one of the things like hey, let's try this. It's
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like not really because it's it's not the same thing.
If you get to a point again they're one and six.
If you get to the point we're just mathematically eliminated,
is really nothing at that point because you're not going
to the postseason. There's nothing wrong with putting Bryce in
and see what you got it. But I mean a
lot of games to go. It's ten games ago. I
just think that that's not the time and hopefully we
win some games between now and then and kick that
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can down the road and keep it interesting. And I
think for the sake of the team, you want to
run the offense. You want to have other guys that practice.
It's not just about the quarterback. You want the lineman
for their work, the receivers for their route running for Cuba.
You still want to run the offense and give yourself
the best chance to compete every week.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
Unless he gets hurt, unless Don't gets hurt, then it's
totally different.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
And you put them in, well, then it changes. And
and again you know the one kind of a low
hanging fruit narrative that's out there, and you see it
on message boards and you see it on social media
as well. Oh, if you don't think you're gonna win
a lot of games, then go play Bryce Young. There's
a reality in the locker room. Eugene, Yes, right, the
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other fifty two guys want the guy who's at quarterback
to be the best option. And right now, listen, at
this stage, Andy Dalton is still the best option. The
other part of it is. You know, players have livelihoods
tanking to them, that's a non starter. It's not part
of the equation. Right, Nobody thinks like that in the
(21:18):
locker room. Nobody's gonna play like that. If they do,
they're not going to play very much longer. And the
other part of this, and you've seen it with teams
that have had a lot of success over the years
in the draft that are good teams, like the Ravens,
like the Seahawks, like the forty nine ers. Right, draft
position is overrated. It's who you draft and how you draft.
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And I think that matters more because there's certain teams
we see them picking near the top of the draft
all the time and it's like, okay, you're picking amongst
the best players, and why are you still picking at
the top of the draft?
Speaker 7 (21:55):
Right?
Speaker 6 (21:55):
Patrick Mahomes is not the first pick? What was he
like tenth? I'm no anyway, he wasn't like nowhere near
the top.
Speaker 7 (22:02):
Neither was Tom Brady.
Speaker 6 (22:03):
Tom Brady was everyone always has to bring up to
Tom Brady once in our life.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Was Dak Presscott third fourth rounder?
Speaker 6 (22:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Right, Jalen Hurts went into the second round. Jake Delon Purty.
Jake Diloon on Draft.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
Jacktlan was an NFL Europe took us to a Super Bowl. Yeah,
so it could come from all kinds of places.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Was backing up Kurt Warner in NFL Europe.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
Oh, that's right, he was backing up cur of the
I all the way over there, backing up Kurt Warner.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Who at the time, who at the time was you know,
fresh off being a grocery clerk pretty much exactly.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
Yeah, what a golden era of NFL Europe that was. Yeah,
Kurt Wonder and Jake Diloone.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
I remember Jake talking about it and he's telling the
story and he goes, you know, it's me and this
other guy and we're going back and forth and he's
pretty good. And then you know, my confidence is shot
because I lost the job to some arena league football
guy who was stuck in grocery shelves. And then a
few years later, oh, hey, that's the NFL MVP. Maybe
maybe I had something there and Jake turned out.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
To be maybe it was just getting the grocery stores and.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
See, yeah, but here's the best. But I think there's
a lot more there, and there's a lot more season
and you know, the hope is starting this weekend in Denver,
that the Panthers can start to make up some ground,
start to just play better, put that foundation in place
that I know Dave Canalis wants to see at the
end of his first year here in.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
Karen slow the game down and albut run the ball.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Yeah, we got more to do here. On Panther Talk,
We're gonna get a Broncos insider, Susie Wrgan's gonna join us,
and then Jim Zokie's interview with KK Short. That's all
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Speaker 2 (23:40):
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Speaker 8 (23:45):
We got out of our hands quick and got away
from us, and we can't come out like that. We
can't start the way we did. The turnovers hurt us.
I mean, we really have to put this behind it.
But also we have to look ourselves in the mirror
and say, all right, why do these games keep going
like this? I think that's the biggest thing for us.
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There's so many little details that we're going to go
back and look at and we're going to say we
have to have certain things happen. We have to make
sure that we have a good understanding of everything that
we're doing. And when you don't, it turns out like
it did today. And so I think we've got to
be honest and real and everybody has to do it.
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And I'm talking to myself too. So we've got to
make sure that when we come out on Sundays, we
have to perform. We have to know all the ins
and outs of everything that we're doing and go out
there and do our job.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
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Speaker 6 (24:46):
The defensive tackle Kawan Short was with the Panthers as
a second round pick in twenty thirteen out of Purdue.
He would go on to play his entire eight year
career in Carolina, twice going to the Pro Bowl and
a key member of the Super Bowl fifty squad. The
season had an amazing eleven quarter sacks. We take a
look back at it all with KK.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
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Speaker 6 (25:15):
Talking with a great KK Short. Of course, part of
that Panthers Super Bowl fifty team, two time Pro Bowl player,
and we've been talking with a lot of guys obviously
about that special season coach Ron Rivera, the bond on
that team, I mean, as you look back at that,
does that help ease and overcome the fact you didn't
win that last game, just the time you guys had,
(25:36):
just to the bonding and just what an incredible seventeen
to one record was heading into that game.
Speaker 9 (25:42):
You can never get over that. I mean, as you
get into this league and you realize when you get
to year six that he wasn't where you was at
a year three. You know, it's a big difference, and
you know, you kind of feel like he took advantage
of the time that you're in the league. And just
having just look back at that twenty fifteen year with
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the coaches and the players and you know, the organization period,
it was just an unbelievable time that we didn't we
took for granted because you look back now, it's kind
of like I wish I would you know, and we
wish we would have won. So that was that's the
main thing of just trying to you can't put the
pieces back together. You know as once it scattered, it
was just all done. So just going back and looking
(26:23):
at that like you want to wish you could just
tomorrow and put it back together and you know, and
win that game.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
But you know, and again you win and lose.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
As a team.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
Peyton Manning didn't have much of anything. You guys shut
him down. I mean, their their offense came from short fields,
off of takeaways and so forth. As far as what
you guys did, and I'm not trying to separate the
team in the categories here. Defensively, it was a really
good defensive performance by the.
Speaker 9 (26:46):
Team, Yeah, for sure. And I think that whole year
and I think throughout the league. You know, it's capitalized
on the mistakes and their defense did and they took
advantage of that. And then we didn't meet the expectations
that we should have. So, you know, defense, we wish
we can get it back. But you know, those guys
played a good game, but we wish we could have
played We should have played better.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
Every guy I've talked to you us so far about
that game that was part of that team never went
back and watched it. I mean you lived it in
real time. Did you ever go back or see some
of it, or you just kind of left it down
the field.
Speaker 9 (27:18):
Only time I really talk about it is when I'm
around the Carolinas and the Panthers and somebody asks about
those questions. It's one of those saft spots where it
hurts when you talk about it. So me going back
to watch it, I don't think I ever will, but
you know, to tell the average person that the acts.
You know, did I enjoy that game? I enjoyed the moment,
(27:39):
But what was you could have capitalized on it? You?
Speaker 6 (27:41):
Individually? That was probably your best season, your Pro Bowl
player that year as well. You have some great teammates.
Obviously y'all did it collectively there, but what kind of
came together for you at that moment of your career?
Speaker 9 (27:53):
That was year three for me and you hear Coach
Wash and Sam Mills, those guys preach, preach, preach.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
From the day we got here.
Speaker 9 (28:02):
Is as you start to learn the game, as you
start to play better, as you start to understand what's
your role here, things will slow down. And I think
that's when your three hit me of what they expected
me to do, my expectations for myself and what could
I do to help this team. And that's where it
took me from a different from level one to level
(28:23):
three to understand that just be yourself, go play a game,
and not worry about the expectations people have on you,
and just and just play. And that's what I did.
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Speaker 1 (28:55):
Panthers will travel to Denver, the Sunshine State, this weekend.
It is week eight of the NFL. They'll take on
the Broncos and to get a little intel on Denver,
we bring in Susie Wargan, who is the Broncos sideline reporter. Susie,
thank you for joining us on this Monday. And I
guess we got to start with with Sean Payton, who
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a lot of Panther fans are familiar with with him
being in New Orleans forever. We get to see him
again now as the head coach for the Broncos. What
is different in year two? What is he brought to
that franchise since he's been there.
Speaker 10 (29:32):
Oh that's such a great question, and thanks for having me, guys,
I appreciate it. So it's been a really interesting year.
I think that it's you know, a lot to talk
about Russell Wilson and what he did yesterday with the Steelers,
and that's been probably the biggest change I think that
we have seen is Russ not being here. So now
what does Sean Payton do with the guy that he
drafts with bon Nix and how much can that change?
(29:55):
You know? Defensively, we lost a couple and we lost
a key guy to you guys, with Josie Jewell going
to the Panthers, and so they've responded, well, We've now
lost a couple of guys in there with Alex Singleton,
but now Cody Barton stepped up in his place. So defensively,
you know, things are going really well. Offensively, still, I
think there's still lots of question marks out there somewhere
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answered last Thursday as to how this offense works under
Sean Payton. So that's what we're seeing. The biggest difference
is just what is Bonick spring. Can we get a
balanced offense going, Can we get the pieces together to
get some points on the board because that's what we
really need to see, and that was everybody kind of
pointed the finger and blamed ruff last year. But now
(30:36):
at the beginning of the year, we were seeing some
of the same things, but it seems to be getting better,
so we're hoping that it is.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
Is there any this is Eugene, I'm sorry. Is there
any concern that you know, Nick ran for above with
seventy five yards the other day? Is there any concern
about him being that running quarterback as as opposed of
being that passing quarterback.
Speaker 10 (30:56):
Well, honestly, Jane, we'll take our rushing yards however we
can get them. If it's Bow getting those yards, hey
we'll take it. That's fine. But no, I mean, I
think the point is I mean, you know, yeah, he's
got a great arm, and we saw what he could
do in college, so we do want to see what
he can do from a throwing perspective. But that is
(31:17):
the beauty of bo I mean, we see him get
out of he got out of some things Thursday night
where you're like, my gosh, how is he maneuvering around
and not getting sacked there? And you know, rusted. Some
of the same stuff when he was with us. He's
older and not as mobile as bow is. But I
do think, you know, what is Sean Payton's plan for him?
Speaker 9 (31:35):
Does?
Speaker 10 (31:35):
He probably wanted to throw, probably, but also you know
he had Drew Brees in New Orleans and Drew was
pretty mobile too, so he likes that kind of quarterback.
And like I said, I mean, we just we need
some balance, and so to have a game that we
had the other night with the rushing yards that we
have between him and Chavante breaking through was huge. So
we'll we'll, we'll take them. Anything on the ground is good,
(31:55):
doesn't matter who what number it is.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
Yeah, I hear you, Hey, Susie, Jim Zoki. Watch of
course the Thursday night game at New Orleans. What did
that mean to Sean? Obviously is very complimentary of being
back in that place with the Saints organization, but I
don't mean like like showing them something. But it seems
almost sentimental for him being back down there.
Speaker 10 (32:14):
Oh, very much. So it was. Yeah, In fact, he
talked a lot afterwards. I sat in the press conference
because we had all of our equipment in there, so
it's kind of getting all of our stuff together and
listening to what he said, and he was very retrospective.
You can tell that New Orleans means a lot to him.
He actually went to the stadium earlier before all of
our buses went. We always go with the team, and
(32:36):
you know, I think had had some time there to
kind of get some of those things out of the way,
the emotional part of it. They ran a video for
Drew Brees at halftime. They put him in their Hall
of Fame at halftime, and he was in that video
and so saying, you know, his congratulations. So it's kind
of interesting to see, you know, him being that. And
then some of the Saints press were in that press
(32:57):
conference as well, and he acknowledged a couple of when
he was talking. But I think it meant a lot
for him.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
To go back.
Speaker 10 (33:03):
It didn't necessarily, I mean, of course he wanted to win,
but it wasn't like I'm sticking it to the Saints
or anything like that. It was emotional, especially with Breeze
being there and just coming back and kind of having
that extra time too, although we didn't have much time
to think about it leading up to it, since it
was the Thursday game. So maybe that was you know,
good and bad didn't have the big build up of
(33:23):
going back to New Orleans, but it did. It meant
a lot to him to go back there, and there
were lots of hugs. I mean, there's a bunch of
guys that are on our staff that used to be
on the Saints staff, So there were a lot of
bro hugs happening in a pre game.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Susie. I look at this defense and it's been evident
in a few games this season where they get you
in second and long, third and long, they can get
to the quarterback, and it seems like it's just more
than one guy. What has made this pass rush so
lethal this season?
Speaker 10 (33:52):
You know, it's interesting, it's a combination. Our linebackers are
just and it doesn't matter who's in there, as we've seen,
I mean, dug, but it doesn't. With the exit of
Alex Singleton when we lost him to the ACL injury,
Cody Barton steps in gets the green dot. He's the
guy that's, you know, the quarterback of the defense now.
And we just got guys, I mean Jonathan Cooper, our
(34:14):
new rookie, Jonah Ellis whose dad played in the NFL.
He's amazing. I mean, they just and they're coming from everywhere.
I want to say, I can't remember how many it
was leading into Thursday's game. I think it was ten
different guys with sacks, and now we're up to twelve
or something like that. So it's like they're coming from
all over the place and now we're up to I
believe it's twenty eight. I kind of I didn't keep
(34:35):
track of what was going on yesterday with all the stacks,
but it's pretty amazing where it's coming from. And really
it is. It's that linebacking corn. It doesn't matter who
Vance Joseph's putting in there, but they're getting to the
quarterback consistently. And you know, sadly it may happen on
Sunday too with Andy. We'll see, right, So what.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
Is the Special Team's return game giving you guys with mems?
Speaker 10 (34:59):
Oh a lot, Yeah, Marvin mams, Marvin's Marvin's interesting and
we love Marvin. He's a great guy. His parents are
always at the game, so just kind of one of
those those good kids that you want to root for,
and he has the ability to break out. And I
think we're all we've been kind of waiting, like, all right,
here comes Marvin, Here comes Marvin and then every once
in a while he's he's popping out and getting some
(35:21):
extra yards. So he's got some good explosiveness to him
and is really kind of that guy that we that
we like having in the back there to you know,
hopefully break out a big old game on.
Speaker 7 (35:33):
Our turn, Susie.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
Last thing is having a question just a comment from
me the listener is my son lives in Denver. We
were out there. We saw the food fighters in August
at Mile High Stadium. It's a great town you live in.
We enjoyed it out there. What's the weather looking like
for this weekend in general?
Speaker 9 (35:47):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (35:47):
You know what.
Speaker 10 (35:48):
I looked ahead and we are about at seventy five
I believe, So we're wow, really nice October days. Yeah,
let me see if seventy six, I'm sorry for a
high so it'll be that, you know, Panthers.
Speaker 11 (36:01):
No, well, it could change anytime. No, I'm telling you
all right, that is very true, Susie. Before we let
you go. For Panther fans who are thinking of making
the trip or who are making the trip, you gotta
any restaurant recommendations.
Speaker 7 (36:16):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Is it low dough?
Speaker 2 (36:17):
So dough?
Speaker 1 (36:18):
What's it?
Speaker 10 (36:18):
Called go down to Lodos. Yet there's a lot of
great restaurants down by coors Field. McGregor Square is right
next to coors Field. There's some great restaurants in there.
If you go a little south to our Denver Tech Center,
that's where a lot of our really nice steakhouses are.
We've got to That's where Shanahan's is. We've got a
Del Frisco some of those, So you can find all
(36:40):
kinds of great places to eat. But really downtown, I mean,
there's there's an Always at the Ritz Carlton, So if
you're looking for some some steak or any kind of
those food items, you're gonna find a lot of good stuff.
Speaker 6 (36:50):
Gene will not support a place called always no more,
no more?
Speaker 5 (36:56):
Noways does in Lway, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Susie Warden from the Denver Broncos broadcast team. She patrols
the sideline. Susie, appreciate you coming on and we'll catch
up with you in person on Sunday.
Speaker 7 (37:11):
Seventy yard post ride over to about.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
That Eugene was doing so well now and now we've
taken him back. Now we've taken him back.
Speaker 6 (37:22):
We lost Langton too because he grew up a Chiefs fans.
Speaker 7 (37:25):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
La has provided some misery for a lot of fan bases.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
I have four in this uption on him when we
used to go back and forth, and I'm telling you
he is one of the best quarterback. It reminds me
a lot of Cam Newton, that size, but his arm
able to throw the ball. I said, I will always
stay back because he could throw the ball seventy yards.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
I grew up in Cleveland. You think I like Lway.
Speaker 7 (37:45):
Oh, yes, that's right. Oh that's right. You're right about that.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Oh yeah, Ernest Byner fumbles right, and then that was twice,
but the drive was so I'll give you mine. I
grew up a Jets fan in New Jersey. Ninety eight
AFC Championship game. Jets are up ten nothing at the
half against Denver, about to go to the Super Bowl.
I think would have played your Falcons right, right? And yeah,
second half was it? Twenty three to ten was the
(38:08):
final score.
Speaker 6 (38:09):
It's sattur. We're not going to always always.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
No, there's one place where not going. It's it's to always.
We are going to Denver and we are coming back
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Speaker 2 (38:25):
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Speaker 1 (38:30):
Final segment here on Panther Talking. Eh, Jim, Eugene, you
over the lay nightmares, Eugene.
Speaker 7 (38:37):
Yes, I'm over it, dude. My goodness.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
Alwi was a formidable quarterback. Really cut my teeth against him,
and we went back and forth when I played for
the Seattle Old AFC West and got to face him
in the Super Bowl twice and got to one time.
Speaker 7 (38:54):
I got him and he got me. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 5 (38:56):
It was always a battle and one of my favorite
quarterbacks and one of my best memories is I asked
him to say, could you sign a helmet for me?
Because he's one of the best quarterbacks I've ever faced,
And so I have his helmet with his signature on it.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
So I'll tell you what, But you will not be
going to his restaurant.
Speaker 7 (39:14):
No, I'm not going to always restaurant. It's funny.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Speaking of Super Bowls, the last time the Broncos were
in the postseason, their last playoff win was Super Bowl
fifty against against the Panthers. They have not been in
the Super Bowl since and Peyton Manning retires. Revolving door
quarterbacks Simeon Flacco, Yeah, you just go on and on,
(39:37):
Russell Wilson, now bow Nicks. Uh, it's just been a
revolving door.
Speaker 6 (39:42):
Ktree caught it. But uh, that was such a such
a disappointing game. I mean, their defense was phenomenal, no doubt,
but Peyton Manning threw for like one hundred and forty
yards no touchdowns in that game.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
I thought that was the most pivotal play that Kotrie Cotre. Yeah,
because he caught.
Speaker 6 (39:59):
That ball, used to hold down in distance after and
if he.
Speaker 5 (40:01):
Catches it cleanly, the safety, the free safety was on
a position he's going to go ahead and walk in
for a test unless he's caught by the corner. And
I was like, wow, he catches clearly, It's going to
be a totally different game, totally different games that doesn't
catch you Connedy Yeah, and then you know.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Von Miller gets the hit on cam and you know
the fumble and unfortunately we know the rest who was.
Speaker 6 (40:24):
Our defensive end in that game that had a great game.
Speaker 7 (40:26):
It was I was just.
Speaker 5 (40:29):
If I could he got an interception too.
Speaker 6 (40:33):
No, I'm sorry I brought it up now. Anyway, Anyway,
he had the same number of sacks. He had an interception,
as he said, and I got to have a vote
in who the MVP is. But the MVP has coming
the winning team, so he would have been the m
v P if we had won. And as soon as
we remember his name next week, we'll tell you who that.
(40:55):
Yeah he got sacks, Yeah, at an.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Intersection, NFLS, an interception, fumble recovery, and a force full.
Speaker 6 (41:05):
You've literally made more impact plays than von Miller did.
But we lost.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
You lost.
Speaker 6 (41:08):
There's only coney wherever you are.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Cony ely, cony eally to sign off.
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