September 1, 2025 • 42 mins
This week on Panther Talk, Anish, Jim and Eugene speak with Dave Canales, Jerricho Cotchery, and JP Shadwick (Jaguars Radio Network) about the Panthers season opener vs the Jags and so much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The following is an exclusive presentation of the Carolina Panthers
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Football League's tough, and they're tall, and they're tall, and
they're doll This is Panther Talk on the Carolina Panthers
Radio network.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I feel comfortable with the guys who are here, but again,
we're going to keep looking all across the league, and
you know, transactions happened weekly, you know, and these rosters
they're not set in stone by any stretch. And so
we're going to continue to see based on the film
that we watched and where people ended up, to see
if people can come in and help us. And the
premium is going to be on special teams. You know,
are these guys that we can count on game day
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who have the attributes that we can develop as coaches
from a positional standpoint.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
And now, along with Jim Zoki and Eugene Robinson, here's
a Niche Shruff with Panther Talk live from the Panthers
broadcast facility at Bank of America Stadio.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
It is Week one of the NFL season, and we
are I need to go here on Panther Talk and
he's shopped Jim Zochie, Eugene Robinson and live and in
studio the head coach of the Carolina Panthers, Dave Canalis.
Welcome to Week one. Coach.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Thanks a lot, guys, A lot of excitement out there
today coming off of practice, and that's so much better
to be here live with you all versus trying to
battle Wi Fi going down Providence Road.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
He rested up this studio for you too. I don't
know if you could tell added a few production values
the monitors.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
It's amazing the coach who kind of put together, Man,
what's going on?
Speaker 5 (01:32):
Man, got some muscle for you.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Coach, You know what, age is just the number and
we just got to wake up every day and try
to push the push the ball for it a little bit.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
Well, we're all older than you, so we can answer
that one for you. What's the what's the key?
Speaker 7 (01:44):
And you've been through this as a head coach last year,
but as a coordinator and so forth, what's the key?
Like the ise, he just blooming at the masters at
the right time to get your team peaking regular season,
first game, at the right moment.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Honestly, every team is different. What I've seen now in
sixteen years is you have an expectation for what it
can look like. I have visions and dreams of what
our offense could be defensively with the people we added,
But ultimately we go at the pace of how long
it takes our guys to learn how to play football together,
you know, And Eugene, you can speak to that as well.
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You know, where you might have a talented team, But
until we can start communicating and and get lined up
and know exactly where we're at and trust each other,
you know, that's where you really try to figure that out.
But from a physical standpoint, you know, I got to
give Josh Hanks Denny Kellington a ton of credit with
the with the job they've done with our guys, just
oscillating the work, getting the pre practice readiness, the post practice,
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the lifts. The conditioning level of this group is. It
looks great, we look fast, we look strong, we're relatively healthy,
and so I just really feel good about the physical
strength of where we're atting the mentality of a group
of guys who are excited to get after it.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Dave, what are the signs that that cohesiveness is happening
and coming along?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Yeah, I mean I've seen it happen on the practice field,
in the walk you know, I can see when there's
a focus in a group where everything matters. If we
don't fit a run right and the guys want to
get it again, or they're talking to each other because
they didn't match a concept properly or offensively, you know,
the timing wasn't quite right on this motion, or hey,
we got to get that one again, you know, and
they're they're they're asking me for repeat so that they
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can really get it right. Those are the things I've
seen over the course of years. Special groups. They just
care so much. You're in a walk through and you
might as well be in the game with the look
on their faces because it matters, you know. And and
there's there's just an element of care that's so apparent
with these teams.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Coach, What does the communication come from that that replication
your voice on offense and also replications the voice on
defense for the culture here.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yeah, I mean it starts off with Bryce, you know,
and Austin Corbett, you know, making sure that they're getting
the huddle set, making sure Bryce is communicating to the
guys what he needs, getting the playout so they can
be at the line of scrimmage and taking information. So
it all starts there. It also is our skill group
getting out and getting set quickly. Probably one of the biggest,
my biggest pet peeves is if we just kind of
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drag ourselves out of the huddle, what message does that
send to the defense, you know, versus when you explode
out of the huddle you get set. Here comes the motion,
we know what we're doing. Here we go having that
aggressive attacking mindset. And on the defensive side, you know,
Christian Roseboom getting the call in and those big boys
up front getting their hand in the ground, you know,
and we got hands on waste, hands on knees. You know,
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we're taking long to get set. You know, I know
that we're not quite ready there. You know, it's it's
just chattering the back end. You know, it's the past drink.
Where is it at? You know, making their their rotational calls,
making their different calls versus stacks and bunches, all those things.
When those things are happening, really crisp, and I know
we're heading in the right direction from a communication standpoint.
Speaker 7 (04:46):
Three big pieces of news for the receiver room since
the last time we talked to you. The trade of
Adam Fehalin yep uh, the re emergency of hunder Run
for bringing him back, and then the injury to Jalen Kocher.
So kind of your thoughts on the position group of
Wide Receiver right now.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
What an absolute whirlwind, you know, and really just you know,
going through the feeling trade, you know, and and finding
ourselves in a place where we felt like all parties
kind of found a common ground with that one. And
then you know with Jalen Cocher, a great opportunity for Jalen,
you know, and then Jalen getting hurt. He's gonna be
out for a little while. And then just the ongoing
conversations that we were having with Hunter Renfro throughout this
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week where all this other stuff is happening, you know,
And I can't give Dan and Brant enough credit for
just keeping the conversations open, being able to have the
back and forth with Hunter, you know, with his agent,
and you know, ultimately having the conversations over the weekends
where we found an agreement, and just the special timing
of it, you know, like that we might have plans
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and we might have things in our mind, Eugene, but
you know, ultimately the Lord's plan that prevails, and then
for me it was just kind of Hunter and I
were standing out there in the practice field today, is like, well,
I wouldn't have pictured it happened this way, and He's
like me neither, But you know what, I'm so excited
to be here. Let's go do it. So I'm really
I'm really happy for right now.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Will Hunter be the starting slot Week one?
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Oh yeah, he's got to be out there, you know,
and he's and I'm fired up that he comes back
to us with a lot of excitement, you know, and
and just his impact and effect that he has on
the whole group as well, you know with you know,
with t Mac and with Excel, you know, two young
guys that have a lot of talent. But it's it's
so good to have those guys in there that have
been there, played against different types of defenses. And I
can only imagine the conversations they're gonna have on the
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bench in between series.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
Coach talk to me about the defensive front and particularly
when I'm looking at those that front seven, your front
three guys can actually put a lot of pressure on
the quarterbacks and also stop that running and get those
double team blocks all all those linebackers so good and.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Eat Yeah, I mean, it's it's a it's a really
deep group on the edge and in the interior. You know,
having a Sean Turk, Derek and Bobby to be able
to kind of rotate in there. They're very versatile along
the front inside, you know.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
So they can play the three to one, they can
play all of.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
It, right, All those guys can play every single spot
on our defense, which is really valid. They're different sizes,
you know, they have different atches, but they're they're really
intelligent and they're tough players, you know, and so they
give us some versatility inside. And then you know, to
have Pat Jones, DJ Wanham, Nick Gordon, Prince Leum and
Meal and those guys to be able to rotate on
the on the edges, you know, to be able to
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set edges and rush the passer. You know, this is
a really strong front that again, uh, they got to
play together, you know, they got to get more and
more time. It's it's why we put them out there
a couple of times in the preseason and just kind
of get a feel for each other for a couple
of series. But I'm excited to see those guys play ball.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
Talk about some of the young guys on the defense.
Speaker 7 (07:31):
Of course, with the two edge rushers, they had some
help things in their back. And now you've got Leythan
Ransom in the secondary, second year for Trevin Wallace, second
year for Demani Richards, and so between these rookies and
second year guys, howre excited about seeing their growth and
what they can do with the defense this year.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
These guys are so important where we're headed, the type
of team that we're trying to build, you know, and
we brought some talent in, but as we all know,
in this league, you got to develop your young talent.
You got to get those guys out there to play ball.
And I'm just excited about, you know, the physical nature
that they showed up to play with this camp. You know,
Trey Merrick Hugh changes that group. You know, he shows
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up angry every day and practices. He practices with that level,
that that championship mentality. He practices that way every single day.
Derek Brown, these are guys that I can point to
J C. Horn, I can point to these guys for
everybody else. Guys, this is how we practice. You don't
have to go up. This is where you make our team.
This is where we make us right here on the
practice field, and the games will feel normal if you
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do it. But you got to trust each other. But
it's so it's only it's a lot of noise coming
from me, but Eugene, as you know, when those guys
in that locker room set the standard, this is how
we work, that's when it becomes special.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Dave, have you settled on who that's starting safety next
to Trayvon Merrick is going to be?
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Well, everyone will see that on Sunday. But what I
do feel good about is we have a couple of
we have great options in Nick Scott and Laythan Ransom
and Demani Richardson, a bunch of guys who can do
a lot for us. So and we'll roll that group
out there, you know. But the hope is to play
all those guys. You know, they can all help us
in different ways.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
With Jacksonville being the Week one opponent, a lot like
you guys last year were new coaching staff, You're trying
to figure out what it is they want to do.
How does that impact your game plan? And going into
this one.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
It really does. And I think the cool part about
opportunities like this is that it makes it about us
because you look at the preseason. We know they're not
showing everything they're going to do, but you can see
the bare bones of this scheme, of this core defensively,
of this core offensively, basic run game, a lot of
the same stuff that we do. So you have a
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good starting point. You can see where they've been in
the recent past, so you might be able to expect
some different things. But really, until you get a couple
of games in, it's hard to just say, like, hey,
this is going to be a seventy percent or better.
Here I got the perfect call, Like those are going
to be hard and you really want to be chasing
those when you have new play callers and Liam someone's
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been calling it, but he's got a new set of
skill players. You know, he's got to use these guys
in different ways, and you know, so it's those in
game adjustments and our guys kind of communicating and playing
together to figure out what's their plan for this day.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Coach, every team that comes out of a preseason, there's
always a certain character of the defense and the offense.
What have you identified as that character going forward with
your guys as you get ready for Jaguars physicality.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
You know, it showed up all kemp It showed up
on you go about, it showed up in practices, it
showed up in the games. This is a physically aggressive
team that we have, and it's not just happening on
game day. It's every day in practice to the point
where we're like, okay, how long can I let this
move the ball?
Speaker 8 (10:41):
Period go?
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Because these guys are getting after each other and it
all starts with the run game. And that's why we
believe in it so much, because it just creates a
level of toughness that you're going to have. You know,
you got to have it, you know, to be able
to play long into the seasons, you know, in this league.
So I'd say we can hang our hat on that. Know,
I think that this is a group, you know, that
gives high effort, you know, a lot of strain, and
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we're hard on them, They're hard on each other, and
I think that's one of the coolest parts. Again, these
this is the defense getting together before each team period.
They get together before they go and break out there
and get on the field, which is pretty unique. You know,
I haven't seen this in a while, really really since
I was in Seattle for a couple of those years
where we had a group that played so long together,
they kind of get together before they go out. This
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is a commitment. Here we go and from snap one
to Snap ten, you know it's a physical bunch of
guys just trying to blow things up.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Ridgie White would call us up like that, say hey man,
we gotta come out here go bust people up. Get Ready, Yeah,
get ready, So I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
I love that.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
It was really good.
Speaker 7 (11:41):
Okay, last week for me. Special teams. They've got a
kicker with a huge leg and it came a little
punter the same way you guys say that with a
great punter, Sam Martin. How big of a factor, especially
when teams are being put together kind of last minute
coming out of trading camp.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
Is special teams in this game huge.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
You know this is a special teams is like near
and dear to my heart. We preach this to our
guys like you're trying to make this team. You're gonna
have to contribute on teams. We got a bunch of young,
fast dudes on our defense. On our special teams, you know,
to be able to cover and you know, I think
the kicking unit you know in Jacksonville is gonna present
their challenges, you know. So, but you're looking for any
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edges you can get, you know, and special teams certainly
can be one of them because of the hitting yardage
you know that's available there in the return game and
then when you're covering kicks, you know. So, but I
think Tracy's done a fantastic job, you know, just you know,
giving some different looks things we've been working on since
the spring, you know, just to try to find an
edge somewhere.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Dave, before we let you go on your wristband there,
you got a couple of words that are I think
I saw a breathe. Oh yeah, what's the significance of
those words?
Speaker 5 (12:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:43):
So my daughter Ashby, you know, I'm just like my
wife and I were just we're their biggest fans and
just trying to encourage her talking about self talk, talking
about remind yourself who you are and who you've been.
And she made these bracelets and the one says baller
like Dad, you're all you know, and she's like she's like,
regardless of what happens, even if you have like a
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horrible play, call. Just remember you've called great plays.
Speaker 8 (13:07):
You will do her.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
You will do it again. And then the other one
is just breathe. You know, it's just in those moments
she came up with that. Yeah, she just is something
that we talk to them about all the time. You know,
take a breath. She plays volleyball before she's gonna serve.
Take a deep breath, exhale, your body calms down, your
mind's focused, and just do it again, you know. And
so just great reminders. So if I usually find a
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spot in the stadium to kind of focus on, take
a breath, refocus, and sometimes I can just look down
at my wrist and say, breathe, take a deep breath,
go to the next call. Just make the next call.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
See that's the perfect way to go to break. Take
a deep breath, exhale. We'll be back with more Panther
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Speaker 2 (13:50):
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Speaker 4 (13:59):
Already feels like new season. We had Dave Canalis in
studio and a Shrop, Jimzoki, Eugene Robinson. Week one is
here Panthers at Jacksonville Sunday at one pm. We've talked
about this in the preseason, Eugene, not just the optics
of starting one and oh, but when you look at
the last three seasons. A year ago, the Panthers started
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one and seven in twenty twenty three, they started h
to six twenty twenty two, they started one in five
twenty twenty one, they did get off to a good
start three and oh. The way this schedule sets up Jacksonville,
a lot of new pieces, new coaching staff. Yes, it's
on the road, this is a real opportunity to start
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one in oh. When the ambiance around the Carolina Panthers
right now is arrow up and a chance to really
capitalize on the momentum of last year.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
And don't forget, their defense is not that good. The
defense was thirty two, So the defense was they weren't
that good. I think our offense coming out of this
preseason is much better. I think that the receiving staff
is much better. I think that the offensive line is
much more cohesive, and I think that we can actually
run on the Jaguars. So when we look at, you know,
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coming out of this preseason getting work for this game,
this is a winnable game. Uh, Jacksonville is trying to
figure things out. You know that where coach Canallis was
a year ago. They're trying to figure things out. You're
putting in new systems. You got all these moving parts.
We're trying to get all those moving parts together and
to get a win. That's very, very difficult. I think
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the fact that we've already had our bumps and bruises,
We've already went through all the hiccups and things that
we're going to go through to get to this point,
I think we're way far ahead of where Jacksonville is.
So from that standpoint, I like our chances going to
Jacksonville to go ahead and win a game.
Speaker 7 (15:56):
The Jaguars at this moment remind me so much of
the twenty two twenty four Panthers, and that they have
the Tampa Bay offensive coordinator Liam Cohen in this case
becoming a head coach for the first time, to come
fix the quarterback who's got a lot of talent. It was,
you know, number one pick out of the draft in
Trevor Lawrence, a former Clemson Tiger. Starr to work out
his footwork and do the mechanics and apparently, but what
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they're saying, it's all coming together there.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
It kind of build around that.
Speaker 7 (16:21):
So it's kind of like there where we were last
year and for the Panthers hopefully taking that two point
oho step maybe three point oh step to get even
better this year. You're right across the board, I think
at all the different position groups you see improvement roster wise.
For the Panthers, it'll be quick. Interesting is how quickly
the Jacksonville part of the cups together with what they're doing,
Yeah you can. Can they get Trevor Lawrence right right away?
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And then the pieces around him? There obviously a lot
of eyes on Travis Hunter and what that's good look like?
I want to ask you real quick, what's having played secondary?
For him to play it sounds like more defense than
offense at first, But to be the first guy in
forty years that may see a heavy dose in this
league of doing that.
Speaker 6 (16:57):
Is hardest seems like how sustainable.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Is that it's very difficult to do that at this
level because everybody in the pros we're good. Everybody's good,
you know, So you get you get a third string
defensive back on the receiver, he's still really good. I mean,
it's not like you're gonna outrun the defensive back. It's
not like you're gonna just you know, kill all if
you flip on the other side. And he's a Trafvis
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Hunter is a defensive back. He lines up against the
third receiver. But guess what, that third receiver is pretty
damn good too. All the people who make the team
are really good. It's almost like when I hear basketball
players laid basketball people so about man, I could beat
the twelve personal team. No, you can't, not on a
basketball team, not on the pro team. Now, they'll eat
your life. That that good, you know. And so from
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that standpoint, Trafvias Hunter, he's gonna be running to guys
who are that good at what they do defensively and offensively.
And they here's another thing, they're not afraid. They're not
gonna be afraid of a rookie.
Speaker 8 (17:53):
They're not.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
I'm just saying they won't be afraid of a rookie.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
You know where I remember hearing this argument a few
years ago. Remember show, Hey Otani came over from Japan. Yep, Oh,
you can't do both. You can't do both. He can't
you can't. Apparently he can't. The great ones can.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
Yeah, he did get hurt.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
He did get hurt, but he's done both, and he's
done both at a high level. To me, the calculus
and the math that Jacksonville put together when they traded
up to go get Travis Hunter was we're doing this
so you can be the guy who can be the unicorn.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Like.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
They didn't go get him just to be a dB.
They could have gotten him later, or you're not picking
that high if it's just a corner or just a
wide receiver. They wanted him because they feel he can
be a star at both levels. I think it's it's
it's unique. Yeah, and I think skepticism is founded. But
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I think you got to go back to why they
drafted him in the spot they did. It's because they
want him to be the football version of Otani.
Speaker 8 (18:57):
So I think so.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
But here's the different was Otani right, he's gonna be
playing every week in and week out.
Speaker 8 (19:02):
He's not.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
He's not gonna go ahead and be every day to
hit every day. But he's not gonna be the pitcher.
I mean, his rotation is gonna be a different rotation.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Well, you still have your throat days, there's still things
you have to do besides, but.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
It's not live. But that's what my point is. It's
not live, So I would say, what he's gonna be doing?
Speaker 4 (19:21):
And Hunter only plays once a week?
Speaker 5 (19:23):
Right, yeah, but here it is. But you get sixty
plays seventy plays, you're gonna get like sixty seventy plays
a game, right, And I remember when even if he
even off, you have to take him off for the
special teams too, because now you can't have him do
all the special team stuff that typically defensive backs do.
You got to take him out on put return and
all that type of stuff. So I get that he
can't do all that, but sixty seventy plays a game, dude,
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you better be in great dang shape. You have to be,
because I would rather spot play him where I get
my bank for a buck on one side of the
ball and then spot play him on the other side
and not use him because if you use him up, dude,
he gets hurt. Two positions go down. You got to
figure out two positions. And I don't want to be
in that situation as a new coach, as a new
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guy getting a new system. I think that's very difficult
to put hang you bet on a rookie like that.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
And that's the difference with baseball, where Otani can get hurt,
he can't pitch, but he can still hit.
Speaker 7 (20:18):
And he never has stopped hitting. I mean the whole time.
He's consistently been one of the best hitters in baseball.
And when he's when he is pitching, which is now,
he's still about five innings when he starts and so forth,
getting all the way back to health. The talent is there,
but he's a spot starter, if you will, as far
as being a pitcher every five days in the major leagues,
and then he's always one of the top home run
hitters he is right now in baseball.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
So it's fun I think.
Speaker 8 (20:40):
You know.
Speaker 7 (20:40):
Again, I don't know that like this season it will
be that hard or next season it'll be interesting, just
sustainability wise. How long of a career, Bo Jackson, as
far as a guy that was able to do football
and baseball at Pro Bowl and All Star levels, is
probably the greatest one we've had with you say, out
of the Deon Sanders and all the ones that try
to do multiple sports of our generations.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
The d I remember when will jump down and play receiver.
You know what, the other deficive backs. None of us
were afraid, none of us because we say he's not
a receiver every single day. He's not doing that every
single day and being just a receiver only because that's
a different skill set for those guys. They do that.
He's doing this night because Okay, I'm gonna go ahead
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and I'm good enough to be a receiver.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
You brought up the point though, about fatigue and stamina,
which could very well be real. Let me put it
to you this way. You played defensive back. Think about
all the snaps that you took, and you were on
the field pretty much every snap, every snap prime imagine
now playing twenty snaps on offense from a fatigue standpoint,
stamina standpoint doable.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
It is doable because he's gonna think of that as
a treat and dessert, so he's gonna think of it
as as a band like that and not being the
me guy.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
It's gonna be a fascinating, fascinating experiment, and I think
all of us are intrigued to see how the Jaguars
deployed Travis Hunter. We're gonna get a little more insight
that later in the show. We'll talk to Jp Shatterick,
the Jaguar senior reporter. We also have Jim with Jericho Katchery.
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He will tell you if he indeed caught the ball.
All that on Panther Talk on the Carolina Panthers Radio network.
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Former Panther Jericho Katrie has a lot to do with
this region. He played his college football at NC State,
played two years his final two seasons in the league
with the Carolina Panthers, including that Super Bowl fifty team,
and then went on to be the head coach at
Limestone College in Gaffney. We'll catch up with the guy
that caught it during Super Bowl fifty, Jericho Coatrie.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
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Speaker 7 (22:59):
You've been asked to question before, but for those who
haven't heard it before, key moment in the game, they
do a long review. They say, you didn't catch you
pass it? A key situation, turnover happens a few plays
after that, but in the moment and in the ten
years since then, as you look at that play, no
one play determined the outcome of that game. But what
were your thoughts? And then you're you're nobody closer to
that play than Jericho contry.
Speaker 8 (23:20):
Yeah, a crazy, crazy play.
Speaker 9 (23:22):
I mean, we you know, we had a great year,
you know, going up and going going into the super
Bowl and having that moment there. You know, it was
very exciting, you know, but that play in particular, I
mean definitely called it. Everyone on the sideline, our sidelines
congratulating me, you know, before the reviewing, you know, even
go takes place and during the review and you know,
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we all was just kind of in shock when they
came back with you know, call is going to stand
on the field and so yeah, you know, one play
doesn't make it, you know, things of that nature, but
it certainly was a momentum shifting.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
So we kind of started at the end. Let's go
back to the beginning of what was a great season,
fourteen consecutive wins, and really prior to that, twenty fourteen,
the way you guys wrapped up and Jericho, by the way,
was twenty fourteen twenty fifteen his years with the Panthers.
So you kind of hit that sweet spot where probab
didn't feel too sweet first when you guys are sitting
there three eight and one before you went on that
four game winning streak to get into the playoffs in
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twenty fourteen.
Speaker 9 (24:22):
Yeah, I like how you bring up that moment right there,
because that caunterpulted us into, you know, the off season
and to the two and fifteen season that we were
able to have. That was a moment of truth right
there for us. We had just gotten beaten down by
the Vikings and the freezing cold, you know, and so
we had to look at ourselves in the mirror and say,
you know what, at this moment, at this juncture right here,
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we are not a good team, right, Not that we
don't have good players or anything like that, we are
not a good team.
Speaker 8 (24:50):
And so we got to get things fixed.
Speaker 9 (24:52):
And I know, for us offensively, a lot of people
don't know about this, but we went no huddle from
that point moving from that point forward, And I got
to give credit to the coaching staff, Mike Schulack and Dorsey,
John Mascow, pe Han, Jim Skipper, all of those guys there.
They came back in Cam Turner, these guys came in
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Ricky Prole and said, this is what we are good
at when we get into this. Cam has been doing
this his entire life. He's been in no huddle, shotgun,
all of this, and this is this is how we're
going to operate moving forward.
Speaker 7 (25:28):
And river Boat ron became a thing, all of that
going forward and fourth down and so there was a
kind of psyche in a mindset change during that season.
Speaker 9 (25:36):
Right, It really was right because once we made that
switch on offense, very first game, we scored four to
one points in New Orleans, you know, and I think
that gave us great confidence in what we could be
moving forward. And we went on that four game winning
streak and got into the playoffs, beat Arizona here at home,
and you know, took Seattle to the brink. So we
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knew that we were able to compete with those guys.
And you go into the off seat feeling good about
where you are as a as a team. And we
competed like crazy in off season. A lot of a
lot of chirping going back and forth, but the camaraderie
that we had that we were building it in.
Speaker 8 (26:13):
The off season.
Speaker 9 (26:14):
I think it carried over into training camp and showed
up on the field on when a regular season came.
Speaker 7 (26:20):
And obviously highest scoring offense come twenty fifteen out of
that off season despite the fact your receiver's room. I
was down there the day in training camp when Kevin
Benjamin out for the season and that joint practice session
with Miami, but guys like yourself and Devin Funchius I
think was a rookie that year, Ted Ginn, Philly Brown.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
It was.
Speaker 7 (26:37):
It was a nice combination of different skill sets that
kind of blended together in that receiver's room.
Speaker 9 (26:42):
And that's that's the thing. You know, when you're looking
from the outside end, you want to try to look
at you know, who's Justin Jefferson or who's Jamar Chase
or who's like, look at the skill sets that you have.
You know, you got guys that can get open, guys
they can catch it, big, guys that can you know, run,
and you got guys that can you know, just take
the top off. You know, we had an element of
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all of that, you know, and that that's what made
us difficult, right ended up leading the league and scoring
that year. Because we had a guys with you know,
a variety of skill sets, and so really, really that
was tough to watch KB go down.
Speaker 8 (27:17):
For sure. I called him my little brother, you know.
Speaker 9 (27:21):
I saw a way interview he said, you know, Cotch,
it's like a dad, you know, so he maybe I'll
be a little older than then I was, you know,
but no, it was certainly sad to see him go
down because he was ready to take off.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
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Speaker 4 (28:01):
Panther Talk continues on this Labor Day and we welcome
in Jaguars senior reporter JP Shadwick. You can also hear
him all over the country Westwood One calling college football NFL.
Just flipball on your radio. You will hear JP at
some point this ball and JP driving back from the
Notre Dame Miami game, joining us on this Monday. Happy
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Labor Day to you, JP. Week one of the NFL.
Let's start with the obvious, as the Panthers get ready
for the Jaguars. We're all excited to see how Travis
Hunter is deployed.
Speaker 8 (28:37):
What have you heard?
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yeah, first off, good to be on Panther talk with
you man, and ready for some NFL action coming up
this Sunday. I think it's gonna go both ways. I
think he's gonna do everything. They didn't trade all the
equity to move up to number two and then say
it all off season to pull back now. So I
think I don't know if he's going every play on
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both sides of the ball, but I could see it
maybe a little heavier defense and put him out there
some packages and offense, and then until he proves that
he can't do something, let him go wild and go
do what he can do and go make plays and
react on the ball. And that's what we've been here
in all off season. They haven't really backed down from
that in training camp. The last week and a half
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or so of camp he was off to the side
with an upper body injury, but he was back in
practice late last week and again this week. He's going
to be in there and good to go. So a
full team ahead down for Travis Hunter. I think on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
But what your feeling is that it could be more
of Hunter in the secondary versus at wide receiver at
least to begin.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Well, I think I think it depends on the week, honestly.
I mean, they can change this thing every week. That's
the strategy of how they're going to do this. If
there's a matchup on offense, let's playable a little more offense.
And if they don't need an extra defensive back this week,
why press the issue, you know, or vice versa. So
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my feel is that it's such a natural read and
react position for him on defense, especially considering this is
gonna be a zone heavy feel and they've talked about
that all offseason. You're facing the quarterback, you read and react,
and that's what he does best. He's spent the whole
offseason having to learn the route tree and having to
learn the offense and gain chemistry with the quarterback. So
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we'll see. I can't guarantee anything when they roll out
there on Sunday, but I can pretty much guarantee he's
gonna play both for a good bit of this football game.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
It's gonna be fun to watch Travis Hunter, the number
two pick in the draft, Trevor Lawrence. He's had his upse,
he's had his downs in Jacksonville. He's got a new
head coach, an offensive mind in Liam Cohen. What do
you envision Liam Cohen's impact to be specifically on the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Well, Doug Peterson was an offensive mind too. It didn't
work out so right. I mean, it's just kind of
how it goes on the offensive side of the ball.
And they're hoping that the third time's charm, right, third
head coach for Trevor Lawrence in the NFL, third offense now,
and what will be his fifth year in the league,
he already has his contract extension. Maybe it's a different perspective.
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I mean, Liam Collen's a younger guy and has really
worked with a couple of different guys to get him
to get those guys back on track. Obviously, Baker Mayfield
he had in LA for a moment and then of
course had him again in Tampa Bay. They had to
really lean on the run game last year. That was
something that Liam had to adjust to as the offensive
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coordinator and they had a lot of success down there
doing that. And I think just a different perspective on
it from a guy who is a little maybe closer
in age to Trevor, might have something to do with
it too, And you know, let's craft this offense around
him and the pieces that you have in the backfield
and some of the that you have on the outside.
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You know, this is the clock's ticket on Trevor. Let's
be quite honest. Yeah, I mean it's your five. This
group's going to get a couple of years with him,
and then the math starts changing in terms of the
dead cap, money and everything to go with it. And
the first person to tell you that, I think would
be Trevor Lawrence. He understands what's ahead of him, what
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he has to do, and how he has to run
this offense. There have been moments in camp where he's
been pretty good. There have been moments in camp, like
in Miami last week in the practice against the Dolphins,
where he wasn't very good. He's throwing interceptions, the footwork's
gone bad again. But to answer your question, it's more
about footwork and approach to the quarterback, and you know,
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footwork to progressions and it's been a whole off season
of learning on the job of that.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
We're talking to JP Shadowick Jaguars senior reporter JP. So
much of the offense and the quarterback success comes from
who's in front of him. And that off offensive line
got a little bit of a makeover. What are the
Jaguars saying about that offensive line? And you know, is
that something that can be a strength or at best
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maybe not be a weakness this year?
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Yeah, better not be as bad, right or inconsistent, you know,
middle of the packs fine, right, And they made some changes,
Like you said, They've got a new center in here,
Robert Hainsey, who was in Tampa of course, so understands
the scheme. He's been helping Trevor all off season with
protections and everything that goes into that. And they brought
in Patrick McCarry from Baltimore who's a versatile lineman. He's
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going to play right guard to start. Anton Harrison's the
first round pick here year three. At the right side
of the offensive line. Ezra Cleveland, the left guard, had
a really good camp this year. He's been here for
a couple of years now. And the left tackle is
Walker Little and there was some questions about that position.
Would Anton Harrison flip over. They had Fred Johnson in
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here in training to compete that didn't work out, they
traded him away. So I think they like the versatility
of some of the players in the line. Mckerry can
flip left and right, Walker Little can flip left and
right tackle. They think Anton Harrison has the ability to
go back to left like he played in college. So
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I think that's what they like about it. They had
some really older veteran players at center and right guard
the last few years around here that we're just kind
of towards the end of their career and kind of
fading out a little bit. They're hoping that, Okay, this
is the second contract for some of these offensive linemen
and they're still ascending and going into the prime. They've
got to be better in short yardage. Third and one
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felt like third and five all year last year. And
it starts with those five guys up front, and then
that leads to the lack of confidence sometimes with a
quarterback to step into throws, footwork issues when guys are
in his face all the time. So that all starts
with those guys, and it's a new coach, a handful
of new veteran leaders on that line. Let's see if
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if it pays dividends or not.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
And then JP defensively, Really, the only team that was
worse than Jacksonville last year was Carolina. How much has
this Jaguars team improved defensively from last year?
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Misery loves company right here, we are here, we are
me and you, thirty first and thirty seconds. No, I
mean everything's new. I mean new scheme, a new approach
to it. They were playing a lot of man, but
they didn't have man corners a lot last year. They
really revamped the whole secondary. The safeties are new. There
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might be changed on the horizon. At linebacker, they liked
Foyer Luikin, but we'll see what Devin Lloyd's short term
future is around here if he does not play well.
I don't think they would hesitate to pull the trigger
and put Vin trell Miller in there in his place
at linebacker, and he got the edge guys that are
first round picks and Josh Heinz Allen, Trayvon wal Question
March on the interior. But they've bolstered that with some
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offseason acquisitions and a trade to get Colin Saunders in
here as well from the Saints.
Speaker 8 (36:09):
So whole new.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Field and I have no idea what it's gonna look
like I mean, I don't know. I mean he actually
blitzed a little bit in preseason games two and three.
I'm like, whoa wait a minute, Like, don't show everything here.
I mean, that's different. So there's hope that the unknown
will at least get them started. But they've got to
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get pressure. They get stopped to run, to get pressure
to force takeaways. They had nine takeaways last season, nine
of them. That's unheard of. I mean that you just
can't you fall into nine, right? They got nine for
the year. It's a priority Number one for this defense
is to get the football back.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
A lot of what you're saying is a refrain of
Panther talking points from this offseason as well. I'll leave
you with this. Listen, this is a close game if
it comes down to the wire. It seems the Jaguars
are very equipped on special teams. Cam little seventy yard
field goal in the preseason. Did you have a chance
to watch that in person?
Speaker 1 (37:09):
No, that was something special. I was in the studio
across the street, unfortunately, but you know, you kind of
you hear the roar outside the window and it's going
up and then you see it on the screen. It's like,
wait a minute, this is the other forty yard line,
Like the camera's scrolling over and okay, stop everything. What's
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really it's not getting over the line, is it? Darn
sure did, and by about three or four yards he
made it. So now it's only going to be in
certain situations, obviously into the half, into the game, that
type of thing, because there's too much of danger if
you miss it then there and let the forty going in.
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So but he's got the leg. They're not scared from
sixty they're not scared from probably sixty five in and
that gives you another weapon. And then you got to consider, Okay,
are we okay with our defense today? Let's pin them
deep because the punter is a Pro Bowl punter as
well and is one of the best at penning them
inside the ten yard line in the NFL. So we've
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got specialists around here. May not have a whole lot
of other things in the last couple of years, but boy,
we got a punter and a kicker.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
I tell you what. You get one of those kickoffs
with the new dynamic rule and you put the ball
to thirty five Jacksonville's basically a first down away from
field goal range.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
It's wild, it's amazing. It's a nice boost for a
first time head coach.
Speaker 8 (38:35):
Now.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
I just hope they don't have to lean on it
too much. Touchdowns are better than field goals.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
JP Shadwick, Jaguars Senior reporter. JP look forward to visiting
with you in person on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
You got it man, Always a pleasure to visit.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
Panther Talk continues after this on the Carolina Panthers or
Radio Network.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
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Speaker 4 (39:02):
And he's Jim Eugene back for one final segment. We'll
see you at one pm Sunday for the Panthers season
opener at Jacksonville. Eugene, I think this game offers a
great opportunity to see how far the Panthers offense has
come Jacksonville. I know they've made some upgrades on the
margins with defense, and obviously they drafted Travis Hunter, but
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there's still a ways to go for that Jaguars defense.
The Panthers bring back a ton of continuity on offense.
It's an opportunity to show that what you did in
the second half of last season, you now have a
real chance to build off of that, Brice can take
the next step and a chance for Bryce to kind
of wipe away one of the low points of his
rookie season, which was that Week seventeen game in Jacksonville.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
Yeah, and don't forget the skill set of the running
backs themselves. I think Chubandoudo just I don't know. I
think getting Rico, I think that is a steal for us.
I mean, he is really that good. Is his peripheral vision,
how he attacks the whole. I'd like to have that too,
Masta ahead of attack if you will, And don't put
a t in in the mix too, because he could
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go ahead and eat as well. So I think offensively,
I think we're better in the running game, and I
think Bryce and Bryce in my opinion, I think coming
out of last season, when I watched him in preseason
this year, I think he's absolutely gonna be stellar and
if this line is able to protect him, watch out,
because he's gonna have a career day.
Speaker 7 (40:29):
Yeah, that second series in the first preseason game against Cleveland,
I thought we saw him pick up where he left
off in Atlanta at the end of the last regular
season with that great drive finish off by just brilliantly
moving Jalen Koker well on his left arm and then
throwing him open with his right arm. And so we
we know he can process things well, and he can
grow and and he's just can handle so much intellectually.
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And I think too, now it's like we have when
everyone's healthy. Is not everybody for this game, but so
many different weapons from the throw to you. You have
two running backs, you could throw it to you. It'll
be interesting too if you put both backs out there
at times with Rico out there at the same time.
Speaker 6 (41:02):
Were etn for that man, I would I.
Speaker 5 (41:04):
Would put a two headed master back there. And now, okay,
figure it out, go ahead and stop them because they
are the running backs that we have are really really good,
and the peripheral vision putting a foot in the ground
and getting some positive yards. They all can do it.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
There's also a little bit of a sense of calm
hunter renfro back, even though Feeling has been traded. Jalen
Cocher is hurt just having a veteran in what is
otherwise a very young wide receiver room.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
Yeah, I like how to refro. I think he's gonna
be just flat out outstanding. And I think the fact
that if you put him in the slot he gets see
he reminds me so much of feeling a little bit
in that in that regard, and then I'm xcel has
to go ahead and ball out. I think, leget, you
gotta eat.
Speaker 7 (41:46):
I think if I wouldn't use the word pressure. But
there's an expectation for growth. I think it's from Xavier
Leaguet this year from last year. And I don't forget
David Moore. He was not only a leader, he's helpful.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
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Speaker 3 (00:16):
I feel comfortable with the guys who are here, but again,
we're going to keep looking all across the league, and
you know, transactions happened weekly, you know, and these rosters
they're not set in stone by any stretch. And so
we're going to continue to see based on the film
that we watched and where people ended up, to see
if people can come in and help us. And the
premium is going to be on special teams. You know,
are these guys that we can count on game day
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who have the attributes that we can develop as coaches
from a positional standpoint.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
And now, along with Jim Zoki and Eugene Robinson, here's
a Niche Shruff with Panther Talk live from the Panthers
broadcast facility at Bank of America Stadio.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
It is Week one of the NFL season, and we
are I need to go here on Panther Talk and
he's shopped Jim Zochie, Eugene Robinson and live and in
studio the head coach of the Carolina Panthers, Dave Canalis.
Welcome to Week one. Coach.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Thanks a lot, guys, A lot of excitement out there
today coming off of practice, and that's so much better
to be here live with you all versus trying to
battle Wi Fi going down Providence Road.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
He rested up this studio for you too. I don't
know if you could tell added a few production values
the monitors.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
It's amazing the coach who kind of put together, Man,
what's going on?
Speaker 5 (01:32):
Man, got some muscle for you.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Coach, You know what, age is just the number and
we just got to wake up every day and try
to push the push the ball for it a little bit.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
Well, we're all older than you, so we can answer
that one for you. What's the what's the key?
Speaker 7 (01:44):
And you've been through this as a head coach last year,
but as a coordinator and so forth, what's the key?
Like the ise, he just blooming at the masters at
the right time to get your team peaking regular season,
first game, at the right moment.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Honestly, every team is different. What I've seen now in
sixteen years is you have an expectation for what it
can look like. I have visions and dreams of what
our offense could be defensively with the people we added,
But ultimately we go at the pace of how long
it takes our guys to learn how to play football together,
you know, And Eugene, you can speak to that as well.
(02:16):
You know, where you might have a talented team, But
until we can start communicating and and get lined up
and know exactly where we're at and trust each other,
you know, that's where you really try to figure that out.
But from a physical standpoint, you know, I got to
give Josh Hanks Denny Kellington a ton of credit with
the with the job they've done with our guys, just
oscillating the work, getting the pre practice readiness, the post practice,
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the lifts. The conditioning level of this group is. It
looks great, we look fast, we look strong, we're relatively healthy,
and so I just really feel good about the physical
strength of where we're atting the mentality of a group
of guys who are excited to get after it.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Dave, what are the signs that that cohesiveness is happening
and coming along?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Yeah, I mean I've seen it happen on the practice field,
in the walk you know, I can see when there's
a focus in a group where everything matters. If we
don't fit a run right and the guys want to
get it again, or they're talking to each other because
they didn't match a concept properly or offensively, you know,
the timing wasn't quite right on this motion, or hey,
we got to get that one again, you know, and
they're they're they're asking me for repeat so that they
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can really get it right. Those are the things I've
seen over the course of years. Special groups. They just
care so much. You're in a walk through and you
might as well be in the game with the look
on their faces because it matters, you know. And and
there's there's just an element of care that's so apparent
with these teams.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Coach, What does the communication come from that that replication
your voice on offense and also replications the voice on
defense for the culture here.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yeah, I mean it starts off with Bryce, you know,
and Austin Corbett, you know, making sure that they're getting
the huddle set, making sure Bryce is communicating to the
guys what he needs, getting the playout so they can
be at the line of scrimmage and taking information. So
it all starts there. It also is our skill group
getting out and getting set quickly. Probably one of the biggest,
my biggest pet peeves is if we just kind of
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drag ourselves out of the huddle, what message does that
send to the defense, you know, versus when you explode
out of the huddle you get set. Here comes the motion,
we know what we're doing. Here we go having that
aggressive attacking mindset. And on the defensive side, you know,
Christian Roseboom getting the call in and those big boys
up front getting their hand in the ground, you know,
and we got hands on waste, hands on knees. You know,
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we're taking long to get set. You know, I know
that we're not quite ready there. You know, it's it's
just chattering the back end. You know, it's the past drink.
Where is it at? You know, making their their rotational calls,
making their different calls versus stacks and bunches, all those things.
When those things are happening, really crisp, and I know
we're heading in the right direction from a communication standpoint.
Speaker 7 (04:46):
Three big pieces of news for the receiver room since
the last time we talked to you. The trade of
Adam Fehalin yep uh, the re emergency of hunder Run
for bringing him back, and then the injury to Jalen Kocher.
So kind of your thoughts on the position group of
Wide Receiver right now.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
What an absolute whirlwind, you know, and really just you know,
going through the feeling trade, you know, and and finding
ourselves in a place where we felt like all parties
kind of found a common ground with that one. And
then you know with Jalen Cocher, a great opportunity for Jalen,
you know, and then Jalen getting hurt. He's gonna be
out for a little while. And then just the ongoing
conversations that we were having with Hunter Renfro throughout this
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week where all this other stuff is happening, you know,
And I can't give Dan and Brant enough credit for
just keeping the conversations open, being able to have the
back and forth with Hunter, you know, with his agent,
and you know, ultimately having the conversations over the weekends
where we found an agreement, and just the special timing
of it, you know, like that we might have plans
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and we might have things in our mind, Eugene, but
you know, ultimately the Lord's plan that prevails, and then
for me it was just kind of Hunter and I
were standing out there in the practice field today, is like, well,
I wouldn't have pictured it happened this way, and He's
like me neither, But you know what, I'm so excited
to be here. Let's go do it. So I'm really
I'm really happy for right now.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Will Hunter be the starting slot Week one?
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Oh yeah, he's got to be out there, you know,
and he's and I'm fired up that he comes back
to us with a lot of excitement, you know, and
and just his impact and effect that he has on
the whole group as well, you know with you know,
with t Mac and with Excel, you know, two young
guys that have a lot of talent. But it's it's
so good to have those guys in there that have
been there, played against different types of defenses. And I
can only imagine the conversations they're gonna have on the
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bench in between series.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
Coach talk to me about the defensive front and particularly
when I'm looking at those that front seven, your front
three guys can actually put a lot of pressure on
the quarterbacks and also stop that running and get those
double team blocks all all those linebackers so good and.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Eat Yeah, I mean, it's it's a it's a really
deep group on the edge and in the interior. You know,
having a Sean Turk, Derek and Bobby to be able
to kind of rotate in there. They're very versatile along
the front inside, you know.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
So they can play the three to one, they can
play all of.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
It, right, All those guys can play every single spot
on our defense, which is really valid. They're different sizes,
you know, they have different atches, but they're they're really
intelligent and they're tough players, you know, and so they
give us some versatility inside. And then you know, to
have Pat Jones, DJ Wanham, Nick Gordon, Prince Leum and
Meal and those guys to be able to rotate on
the on the edges, you know, to be able to
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set edges and rush the passer. You know, this is
a really strong front that again, uh, they got to
play together, you know, they got to get more and
more time. It's it's why we put them out there
a couple of times in the preseason and just kind
of get a feel for each other for a couple
of series. But I'm excited to see those guys play ball.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
Talk about some of the young guys on the defense.
Speaker 7 (07:31):
Of course, with the two edge rushers, they had some
help things in their back. And now you've got Leythan
Ransom in the secondary, second year for Trevin Wallace, second
year for Demani Richards, and so between these rookies and
second year guys, howre excited about seeing their growth and
what they can do with the defense this year.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
These guys are so important where we're headed, the type
of team that we're trying to build, you know, and
we brought some talent in, but as we all know,
in this league, you got to develop your young talent.
You got to get those guys out there to play ball.
And I'm just excited about, you know, the physical nature
that they showed up to play with this camp. You know,
Trey Merrick Hugh changes that group. You know, he shows
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up angry every day and practices. He practices with that level,
that that championship mentality. He practices that way every single day.
Derek Brown, these are guys that I can point to
J C. Horn, I can point to these guys for
everybody else. Guys, this is how we practice. You don't
have to go up. This is where you make our team.
This is where we make us right here on the
practice field, and the games will feel normal if you
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do it. But you got to trust each other. But
it's so it's only it's a lot of noise coming
from me, but Eugene, as you know, when those guys
in that locker room set the standard, this is how
we work, that's when it becomes special.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Dave, have you settled on who that's starting safety next
to Trayvon Merrick is going to be?
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Well, everyone will see that on Sunday. But what I
do feel good about is we have a couple of
we have great options in Nick Scott and Laythan Ransom
and Demani Richardson, a bunch of guys who can do
a lot for us. So and we'll roll that group
out there, you know. But the hope is to play
all those guys. You know, they can all help us
in different ways.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
With Jacksonville being the Week one opponent, a lot like
you guys last year were new coaching staff, You're trying
to figure out what it is they want to do.
How does that impact your game plan? And going into
this one.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
It really does. And I think the cool part about
opportunities like this is that it makes it about us
because you look at the preseason. We know they're not
showing everything they're going to do, but you can see
the bare bones of this scheme, of this core defensively,
of this core offensively, basic run game, a lot of
the same stuff that we do. So you have a
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good starting point. You can see where they've been in
the recent past, so you might be able to expect
some different things. But really, until you get a couple
of games in, it's hard to just say, like, hey,
this is going to be a seventy percent or better.
Here I got the perfect call, Like those are going
to be hard and you really want to be chasing
those when you have new play callers and Liam someone's
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been calling it, but he's got a new set of
skill players. You know, he's got to use these guys
in different ways, and you know, so it's those in
game adjustments and our guys kind of communicating and playing
together to figure out what's their plan for this day.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Coach, every team that comes out of a preseason, there's
always a certain character of the defense and the offense.
What have you identified as that character going forward with
your guys as you get ready for Jaguars physicality.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
You know, it showed up all kemp It showed up
on you go about, it showed up in practices, it
showed up in the games. This is a physically aggressive
team that we have, and it's not just happening on
game day. It's every day in practice to the point
where we're like, okay, how long can I let this
move the ball?
Speaker 8 (10:41):
Period go?
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Because these guys are getting after each other and it
all starts with the run game. And that's why we
believe in it so much, because it just creates a
level of toughness that you're going to have. You know,
you got to have it, you know, to be able
to play long into the seasons, you know, in this league.
So I'd say we can hang our hat on that. Know,
I think that this is a group, you know, that
gives high effort, you know, a lot of strain, and
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we're hard on them, They're hard on each other, and
I think that's one of the coolest parts. Again, these
this is the defense getting together before each team period.
They get together before they go and break out there
and get on the field, which is pretty unique. You know,
I haven't seen this in a while, really really since
I was in Seattle for a couple of those years
where we had a group that played so long together,
they kind of get together before they go out. This
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is a commitment. Here we go and from snap one
to Snap ten, you know it's a physical bunch of
guys just trying to blow things up.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Ridgie White would call us up like that, say hey man,
we gotta come out here go bust people up. Get Ready, Yeah,
get ready, So I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
I love that.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
It was really good.
Speaker 7 (11:41):
Okay, last week for me. Special teams. They've got a
kicker with a huge leg and it came a little
punter the same way you guys say that with a
great punter, Sam Martin. How big of a factor, especially
when teams are being put together kind of last minute
coming out of trading camp.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
Is special teams in this game huge.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
You know this is a special teams is like near
and dear to my heart. We preach this to our
guys like you're trying to make this team. You're gonna
have to contribute on teams. We got a bunch of young,
fast dudes on our defense. On our special teams, you know,
to be able to cover and you know, I think
the kicking unit you know in Jacksonville is gonna present
their challenges, you know. So, but you're looking for any
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edges you can get, you know, and special teams certainly
can be one of them because of the hitting yardage
you know that's available there in the return game and
then when you're covering kicks, you know. So, but I
think Tracy's done a fantastic job, you know, just you know,
giving some different looks things we've been working on since
the spring, you know, just to try to find an
edge somewhere.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Dave, before we let you go on your wristband there,
you got a couple of words that are I think
I saw a breathe. Oh yeah, what's the significance of
those words?
Speaker 5 (12:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:43):
So my daughter Ashby, you know, I'm just like my
wife and I were just we're their biggest fans and
just trying to encourage her talking about self talk, talking
about remind yourself who you are and who you've been.
And she made these bracelets and the one says baller
like Dad, you're all you know, and she's like she's like,
regardless of what happens, even if you have like a
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horrible play, call. Just remember you've called great plays.
Speaker 8 (13:07):
You will do her.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
You will do it again. And then the other one
is just breathe. You know, it's just in those moments
she came up with that. Yeah, she just is something
that we talk to them about all the time. You know,
take a breath. She plays volleyball before she's gonna serve.
Take a deep breath, exhale, your body calms down, your
mind's focused, and just do it again, you know. And
so just great reminders. So if I usually find a
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spot in the stadium to kind of focus on, take
a breath, refocus, and sometimes I can just look down
at my wrist and say, breathe, take a deep breath,
go to the next call. Just make the next call.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
See that's the perfect way to go to break. Take
a deep breath, exhale. We'll be back with more Panther
Talk the Cat of Panthers Radio Network.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
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Speaker 4 (13:59):
Already feels like new season. We had Dave Canalis in
studio and a Shrop, Jimzoki, Eugene Robinson. Week one is
here Panthers at Jacksonville Sunday at one pm. We've talked
about this in the preseason, Eugene, not just the optics
of starting one and oh, but when you look at
the last three seasons. A year ago, the Panthers started
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one and seven in twenty twenty three, they started h
to six twenty twenty two, they started one in five
twenty twenty one, they did get off to a good
start three and oh. The way this schedule sets up Jacksonville,
a lot of new pieces, new coaching staff. Yes, it's
on the road, this is a real opportunity to start
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one in oh. When the ambiance around the Carolina Panthers
right now is arrow up and a chance to really
capitalize on the momentum of last year.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
And don't forget, their defense is not that good. The
defense was thirty two, So the defense was they weren't
that good. I think our offense coming out of this
preseason is much better. I think that the receiving staff
is much better. I think that the offensive line is
much more cohesive, and I think that we can actually
run on the Jaguars. So when we look at, you know,
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coming out of this preseason getting work for this game,
this is a winnable game. Uh, Jacksonville is trying to
figure things out. You know that where coach Canallis was
a year ago. They're trying to figure things out. You're
putting in new systems. You got all these moving parts.
We're trying to get all those moving parts together and
to get a win. That's very, very difficult. I think
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the fact that we've already had our bumps and bruises,
We've already went through all the hiccups and things that
we're going to go through to get to this point,
I think we're way far ahead of where Jacksonville is.
So from that standpoint, I like our chances going to
Jacksonville to go ahead and win a game.
Speaker 7 (15:56):
The Jaguars at this moment remind me so much of
the twenty two twenty four Panthers, and that they have
the Tampa Bay offensive coordinator Liam Cohen in this case
becoming a head coach for the first time, to come
fix the quarterback who's got a lot of talent. It was,
you know, number one pick out of the draft in
Trevor Lawrence, a former Clemson Tiger. Starr to work out
his footwork and do the mechanics and apparently, but what
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they're saying, it's all coming together there.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
It kind of build around that.
Speaker 7 (16:21):
So it's kind of like there where we were last
year and for the Panthers hopefully taking that two point
oho step maybe three point oh step to get even
better this year. You're right across the board, I think
at all the different position groups you see improvement roster wise.
For the Panthers, it'll be quick. Interesting is how quickly
the Jacksonville part of the cups together with what they're doing,
Yeah you can. Can they get Trevor Lawrence right right away?
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And then the pieces around him? There obviously a lot
of eyes on Travis Hunter and what that's good look like?
I want to ask you real quick, what's having played secondary?
For him to play it sounds like more defense than
offense at first, But to be the first guy in
forty years that may see a heavy dose in this
league of doing that.
Speaker 6 (16:57):
Is hardest seems like how sustainable.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Is that it's very difficult to do that at this
level because everybody in the pros we're good. Everybody's good,
you know, So you get you get a third string
defensive back on the receiver, he's still really good. I mean,
it's not like you're gonna outrun the defensive back. It's
not like you're gonna just you know, kill all if
you flip on the other side. And he's a Trafvis
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Hunter is a defensive back. He lines up against the
third receiver. But guess what, that third receiver is pretty
damn good too. All the people who make the team
are really good. It's almost like when I hear basketball
players laid basketball people so about man, I could beat
the twelve personal team. No, you can't, not on a
basketball team, not on the pro team. Now, they'll eat
your life. That that good, you know. And so from
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that standpoint, Trafvias Hunter, he's gonna be running to guys
who are that good at what they do defensively and offensively.
And they here's another thing, they're not afraid. They're not
gonna be afraid of a rookie.
Speaker 8 (17:53):
They're not.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
I'm just saying they won't be afraid of a rookie.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
You know where I remember hearing this argument a few
years ago. Remember show, Hey Otani came over from Japan. Yep, Oh,
you can't do both. You can't do both. He can't
you can't. Apparently he can't. The great ones can.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
Yeah, he did get hurt.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
He did get hurt, but he's done both, and he's
done both at a high level. To me, the calculus
and the math that Jacksonville put together when they traded
up to go get Travis Hunter was we're doing this
so you can be the guy who can be the unicorn.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Like.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
They didn't go get him just to be a dB.
They could have gotten him later, or you're not picking
that high if it's just a corner or just a
wide receiver. They wanted him because they feel he can
be a star at both levels. I think it's it's
it's unique. Yeah, and I think skepticism is founded. But
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I think you got to go back to why they
drafted him in the spot they did. It's because they
want him to be the football version of Otani.
Speaker 8 (18:57):
So I think so.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
But here's the different was Otani right, he's gonna be
playing every week in and week out.
Speaker 8 (19:02):
He's not.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
He's not gonna go ahead and be every day to
hit every day. But he's not gonna be the pitcher.
I mean, his rotation is gonna be a different rotation.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Well, you still have your throat days, there's still things
you have to do besides, but.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
It's not live. But that's what my point is. It's
not live, So I would say, what he's gonna be doing?
Speaker 4 (19:21):
And Hunter only plays once a week?
Speaker 5 (19:23):
Right, yeah, but here it is. But you get sixty
plays seventy plays, you're gonna get like sixty seventy plays
a game, right, And I remember when even if he
even off, you have to take him off for the
special teams too, because now you can't have him do
all the special team stuff that typically defensive backs do.
You got to take him out on put return and
all that type of stuff. So I get that he
can't do all that, but sixty seventy plays a game, dude,
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you better be in great dang shape. You have to be,
because I would rather spot play him where I get
my bank for a buck on one side of the
ball and then spot play him on the other side
and not use him because if you use him up, dude,
he gets hurt. Two positions go down. You got to
figure out two positions. And I don't want to be
in that situation as a new coach, as a new
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guy getting a new system. I think that's very difficult
to put hang you bet on a rookie like that.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
And that's the difference with baseball, where Otani can get hurt,
he can't pitch, but he can still hit.
Speaker 7 (20:18):
And he never has stopped hitting. I mean the whole time.
He's consistently been one of the best hitters in baseball.
And when he's when he is pitching, which is now,
he's still about five innings when he starts and so forth,
getting all the way back to health. The talent is there,
but he's a spot starter, if you will, as far
as being a pitcher every five days in the major leagues,
and then he's always one of the top home run
hitters he is right now in baseball.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
So it's fun I think.
Speaker 8 (20:40):
You know.
Speaker 7 (20:40):
Again, I don't know that like this season it will
be that hard or next season it'll be interesting, just
sustainability wise. How long of a career, Bo Jackson, as
far as a guy that was able to do football
and baseball at Pro Bowl and All Star levels, is
probably the greatest one we've had with you say, out
of the Deon Sanders and all the ones that try
to do multiple sports of our generations.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
The d I remember when will jump down and play receiver.
You know what, the other deficive backs. None of us
were afraid, none of us because we say he's not
a receiver every single day. He's not doing that every
single day and being just a receiver only because that's
a different skill set for those guys. They do that.
He's doing this night because Okay, I'm gonna go ahead
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and I'm good enough to be a receiver.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
You brought up the point though, about fatigue and stamina,
which could very well be real. Let me put it
to you this way. You played defensive back. Think about
all the snaps that you took, and you were on
the field pretty much every snap, every snap prime imagine
now playing twenty snaps on offense from a fatigue standpoint,
stamina standpoint doable.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
It is doable because he's gonna think of that as
a treat and dessert, so he's gonna think of it
as as a band like that and not being the
me guy.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
It's gonna be a fascinating, fascinating experiment, and I think
all of us are intrigued to see how the Jaguars
deployed Travis Hunter. We're gonna get a little more insight
that later in the show. We'll talk to Jp Shatterick,
the Jaguar senior reporter. We also have Jim with Jericho Katchery.
(22:08):
He will tell you if he indeed caught the ball.
All that on Panther Talk on the Carolina Panthers Radio network.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
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Speaker 7 (22:29):
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Speaker 2 (22:48):
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Speaker 7 (22:59):
You've been asked to question before, but for those who
haven't heard it before, key moment in the game, they
do a long review. They say, you didn't catch you
pass it? A key situation, turnover happens a few plays
after that, but in the moment and in the ten
years since then, as you look at that play, no
one play determined the outcome of that game. But what
were your thoughts? And then you're you're nobody closer to
that play than Jericho contry.
Speaker 8 (23:20):
Yeah, a crazy, crazy play.
Speaker 9 (23:22):
I mean, we you know, we had a great year,
you know, going up and going going into the super
Bowl and having that moment there. You know, it was
very exciting, you know, but that play in particular, I
mean definitely called it. Everyone on the sideline, our sidelines
congratulating me, you know, before the reviewing, you know, even
go takes place and during the review and you know,
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we all was just kind of in shock when they
came back with you know, call is going to stand
on the field and so yeah, you know, one play
doesn't make it, you know, things of that nature, but
it certainly was a momentum shifting.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
So we kind of started at the end. Let's go
back to the beginning of what was a great season,
fourteen consecutive wins, and really prior to that, twenty fourteen,
the way you guys wrapped up and Jericho, by the way,
was twenty fourteen twenty fifteen his years with the Panthers.
So you kind of hit that sweet spot where probab
didn't feel too sweet first when you guys are sitting
there three eight and one before you went on that
four game winning streak to get into the playoffs in
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twenty fourteen.
Speaker 9 (24:22):
Yeah, I like how you bring up that moment right there,
because that caunterpulted us into, you know, the off season
and to the two and fifteen season that we were
able to have. That was a moment of truth right
there for us. We had just gotten beaten down by
the Vikings and the freezing cold, you know, and so
we had to look at ourselves in the mirror and say,
you know what, at this moment, at this juncture right here,
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we are not a good team, right, Not that we
don't have good players or anything like that, we are
not a good team.
Speaker 8 (24:50):
And so we got to get things fixed.
Speaker 9 (24:52):
And I know, for us offensively, a lot of people
don't know about this, but we went no huddle from
that point moving from that point forward, And I got
to give credit to the coaching staff, Mike Schulack and Dorsey,
John Mascow, pe Han, Jim Skipper, all of those guys there.
They came back in Cam Turner, these guys came in
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Ricky Prole and said, this is what we are good
at when we get into this. Cam has been doing
this his entire life. He's been in no huddle, shotgun,
all of this, and this is this is how we're
going to operate moving forward.
Speaker 7 (25:28):
And river Boat ron became a thing, all of that
going forward and fourth down and so there was a
kind of psyche in a mindset change during that season.
Speaker 9 (25:36):
Right, It really was right because once we made that
switch on offense, very first game, we scored four to
one points in New Orleans, you know, and I think
that gave us great confidence in what we could be
moving forward. And we went on that four game winning
streak and got into the playoffs, beat Arizona here at home,
and you know, took Seattle to the brink. So we
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knew that we were able to compete with those guys.
And you go into the off seat feeling good about
where you are as a as a team. And we
competed like crazy in off season. A lot of a
lot of chirping going back and forth, but the camaraderie
that we had that we were building it in.
Speaker 8 (26:13):
The off season.
Speaker 9 (26:14):
I think it carried over into training camp and showed
up on the field on when a regular season came.
Speaker 7 (26:20):
And obviously highest scoring offense come twenty fifteen out of
that off season despite the fact your receiver's room. I
was down there the day in training camp when Kevin
Benjamin out for the season and that joint practice session
with Miami, but guys like yourself and Devin Funchius I
think was a rookie that year, Ted Ginn, Philly Brown.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
It was.
Speaker 7 (26:37):
It was a nice combination of different skill sets that
kind of blended together in that receiver's room.
Speaker 9 (26:42):
And that's that's the thing. You know, when you're looking
from the outside end, you want to try to look
at you know, who's Justin Jefferson or who's Jamar Chase
or who's like, look at the skill sets that you have.
You know, you got guys that can get open, guys
they can catch it, big, guys that can you know, run,
and you got guys that can you know, just take
the top off. You know, we had an element of
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all of that, you know, and that that's what made
us difficult, right ended up leading the league and scoring
that year. Because we had a guys with you know,
a variety of skill sets, and so really, really that
was tough to watch KB go down.
Speaker 8 (27:17):
For sure. I called him my little brother, you know.
Speaker 9 (27:21):
I saw a way interview he said, you know, Cotch,
it's like a dad, you know, so he maybe I'll
be a little older than then I was, you know,
but no, it was certainly sad to see him go
down because he was ready to take off.
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Speaker 4 (28:01):
Panther Talk continues on this Labor Day and we welcome
in Jaguars senior reporter JP Shadwick. You can also hear
him all over the country Westwood One calling college football NFL.
Just flipball on your radio. You will hear JP at
some point this ball and JP driving back from the
Notre Dame Miami game, joining us on this Monday. Happy
(28:23):
Labor Day to you, JP. Week one of the NFL.
Let's start with the obvious, as the Panthers get ready
for the Jaguars. We're all excited to see how Travis
Hunter is deployed.
Speaker 8 (28:37):
What have you heard?
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yeah, first off, good to be on Panther talk with
you man, and ready for some NFL action coming up
this Sunday. I think it's gonna go both ways. I
think he's gonna do everything. They didn't trade all the
equity to move up to number two and then say
it all off season to pull back now. So I
think I don't know if he's going every play on
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both sides of the ball, but I could see it
maybe a little heavier defense and put him out there
some packages and offense, and then until he proves that
he can't do something, let him go wild and go
do what he can do and go make plays and
react on the ball. And that's what we've been here
in all off season. They haven't really backed down from
that in training camp. The last week and a half
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or so of camp he was off to the side
with an upper body injury, but he was back in
practice late last week and again this week. He's going
to be in there and good to go. So a
full team ahead down for Travis Hunter. I think on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
But what your feeling is that it could be more
of Hunter in the secondary versus at wide receiver at
least to begin.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Well, I think I think it depends on the week, honestly.
I mean, they can change this thing every week. That's
the strategy of how they're going to do this. If
there's a matchup on offense, let's playable a little more offense.
And if they don't need an extra defensive back this week,
why press the issue, you know, or vice versa. So
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my feel is that it's such a natural read and
react position for him on defense, especially considering this is
gonna be a zone heavy feel and they've talked about
that all offseason. You're facing the quarterback, you read and react,
and that's what he does best. He's spent the whole
offseason having to learn the route tree and having to
learn the offense and gain chemistry with the quarterback. So
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we'll see. I can't guarantee anything when they roll out
there on Sunday, but I can pretty much guarantee he's
gonna play both for a good bit of this football game.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
It's gonna be fun to watch Travis Hunter, the number
two pick in the draft, Trevor Lawrence. He's had his upse,
he's had his downs in Jacksonville. He's got a new
head coach, an offensive mind in Liam Cohen. What do
you envision Liam Cohen's impact to be specifically on the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Well, Doug Peterson was an offensive mind too. It didn't
work out so right. I mean, it's just kind of
how it goes on the offensive side of the ball.
And they're hoping that the third time's charm, right, third
head coach for Trevor Lawrence in the NFL, third offense now,
and what will be his fifth year in the league,
he already has his contract extension. Maybe it's a different perspective.
(31:17):
I mean, Liam Collen's a younger guy and has really
worked with a couple of different guys to get him
to get those guys back on track. Obviously, Baker Mayfield
he had in LA for a moment and then of
course had him again in Tampa Bay. They had to
really lean on the run game last year. That was
something that Liam had to adjust to as the offensive
(31:39):
coordinator and they had a lot of success down there
doing that. And I think just a different perspective on
it from a guy who is a little maybe closer
in age to Trevor, might have something to do with
it too, And you know, let's craft this offense around
him and the pieces that you have in the backfield
and some of the that you have on the outside.
(32:01):
You know, this is the clock's ticket on Trevor. Let's
be quite honest. Yeah, I mean it's your five. This
group's going to get a couple of years with him,
and then the math starts changing in terms of the
dead cap, money and everything to go with it. And
the first person to tell you that, I think would
be Trevor Lawrence. He understands what's ahead of him, what
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he has to do, and how he has to run
this offense. There have been moments in camp where he's
been pretty good. There have been moments in camp, like
in Miami last week in the practice against the Dolphins,
where he wasn't very good. He's throwing interceptions, the footwork's
gone bad again. But to answer your question, it's more
about footwork and approach to the quarterback, and you know,
(32:45):
footwork to progressions and it's been a whole off season
of learning on the job of that.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
We're talking to JP Shadowick Jaguars senior reporter JP. So
much of the offense and the quarterback success comes from
who's in front of him. And that off offensive line
got a little bit of a makeover. What are the
Jaguars saying about that offensive line? And you know, is
that something that can be a strength or at best
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maybe not be a weakness this year?
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Yeah, better not be as bad, right or inconsistent, you know,
middle of the packs fine, right, And they made some changes,
Like you said, They've got a new center in here,
Robert Hainsey, who was in Tampa of course, so understands
the scheme. He's been helping Trevor all off season with
protections and everything that goes into that. And they brought
in Patrick McCarry from Baltimore who's a versatile lineman. He's
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going to play right guard to start. Anton Harrison's the
first round pick here year three. At the right side
of the offensive line. Ezra Cleveland, the left guard, had
a really good camp this year. He's been here for
a couple of years now. And the left tackle is
Walker Little and there was some questions about that position.
Would Anton Harrison flip over. They had Fred Johnson in
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here in training to compete that didn't work out, they
traded him away. So I think they like the versatility
of some of the players in the line. Mckerry can
flip left and right, Walker Little can flip left and
right tackle. They think Anton Harrison has the ability to
go back to left like he played in college. So
(34:19):
I think that's what they like about it. They had
some really older veteran players at center and right guard
the last few years around here that we're just kind
of towards the end of their career and kind of
fading out a little bit. They're hoping that, Okay, this
is the second contract for some of these offensive linemen
and they're still ascending and going into the prime. They've
got to be better in short yardage. Third and one
(34:41):
felt like third and five all year last year. And
it starts with those five guys up front, and then
that leads to the lack of confidence sometimes with a
quarterback to step into throws, footwork issues when guys are
in his face all the time. So that all starts
with those guys, and it's a new coach, a handful
of new veteran leaders on that line. Let's see if
(35:04):
if it pays dividends or not.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
And then JP defensively, Really, the only team that was
worse than Jacksonville last year was Carolina. How much has
this Jaguars team improved defensively from last year?
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Misery loves company right here, we are here, we are
me and you, thirty first and thirty seconds. No, I
mean everything's new. I mean new scheme, a new approach
to it. They were playing a lot of man, but
they didn't have man corners a lot last year. They
really revamped the whole secondary. The safeties are new. There
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might be changed on the horizon. At linebacker, they liked
Foyer Luikin, but we'll see what Devin Lloyd's short term
future is around here if he does not play well.
I don't think they would hesitate to pull the trigger
and put Vin trell Miller in there in his place
at linebacker, and he got the edge guys that are
first round picks and Josh Heinz Allen, Trayvon wal Question
March on the interior. But they've bolstered that with some
(36:04):
offseason acquisitions and a trade to get Colin Saunders in
here as well from the Saints.
Speaker 8 (36:09):
So whole new.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Field and I have no idea what it's gonna look
like I mean, I don't know. I mean he actually
blitzed a little bit in preseason games two and three.
I'm like, whoa wait a minute, Like, don't show everything here.
I mean, that's different. So there's hope that the unknown
will at least get them started. But they've got to
(36:31):
get pressure. They get stopped to run, to get pressure
to force takeaways. They had nine takeaways last season, nine
of them. That's unheard of. I mean that you just
can't you fall into nine, right? They got nine for
the year. It's a priority Number one for this defense
is to get the football back.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
A lot of what you're saying is a refrain of
Panther talking points from this offseason as well. I'll leave
you with this. Listen, this is a close game if
it comes down to the wire. It seems the Jaguars
are very equipped on special teams. Cam little seventy yard
field goal in the preseason. Did you have a chance
to watch that in person?
Speaker 1 (37:09):
No, that was something special. I was in the studio
across the street, unfortunately, but you know, you kind of
you hear the roar outside the window and it's going
up and then you see it on the screen. It's like,
wait a minute, this is the other forty yard line,
Like the camera's scrolling over and okay, stop everything. What's
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really it's not getting over the line, is it? Darn
sure did, and by about three or four yards he
made it. So now it's only going to be in
certain situations, obviously into the half, into the game, that
type of thing, because there's too much of danger if
you miss it then there and let the forty going in.
(37:52):
So but he's got the leg. They're not scared from
sixty they're not scared from probably sixty five in and
that gives you another weapon. And then you got to consider, Okay,
are we okay with our defense today? Let's pin them
deep because the punter is a Pro Bowl punter as
well and is one of the best at penning them
inside the ten yard line in the NFL. So we've
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got specialists around here. May not have a whole lot
of other things in the last couple of years, but boy,
we got a punter and a kicker.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
I tell you what. You get one of those kickoffs
with the new dynamic rule and you put the ball
to thirty five Jacksonville's basically a first down away from
field goal range.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
It's wild, it's amazing. It's a nice boost for a
first time head coach.
Speaker 8 (38:35):
Now.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
I just hope they don't have to lean on it
too much. Touchdowns are better than field goals.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
JP Shadwick, Jaguars Senior reporter. JP look forward to visiting
with you in person on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
You got it man, Always a pleasure to visit.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
Panther Talk continues after this on the Carolina Panthers or
Radio Network.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Panther Talk continues on the Carolina There's Radio Network.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
And he's Jim Eugene back for one final segment. We'll
see you at one pm Sunday for the Panthers season
opener at Jacksonville. Eugene, I think this game offers a
great opportunity to see how far the Panthers offense has
come Jacksonville. I know they've made some upgrades on the
margins with defense, and obviously they drafted Travis Hunter, but
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there's still a ways to go for that Jaguars defense.
The Panthers bring back a ton of continuity on offense.
It's an opportunity to show that what you did in
the second half of last season, you now have a
real chance to build off of that, Brice can take
the next step and a chance for Bryce to kind
of wipe away one of the low points of his
rookie season, which was that Week seventeen game in Jacksonville.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
Yeah, and don't forget the skill set of the running
backs themselves. I think Chubandoudo just I don't know. I
think getting Rico, I think that is a steal for us.
I mean, he is really that good. Is his peripheral vision,
how he attacks the whole. I'd like to have that too,
Masta ahead of attack if you will, And don't put
a t in in the mix too, because he could
(40:09):
go ahead and eat as well. So I think offensively,
I think we're better in the running game, and I
think Bryce and Bryce in my opinion, I think coming
out of last season, when I watched him in preseason
this year, I think he's absolutely gonna be stellar and
if this line is able to protect him, watch out,
because he's gonna have a career day.
Speaker 7 (40:29):
Yeah, that second series in the first preseason game against Cleveland,
I thought we saw him pick up where he left
off in Atlanta at the end of the last regular
season with that great drive finish off by just brilliantly
moving Jalen Koker well on his left arm and then
throwing him open with his right arm. And so we
we know he can process things well, and he can
grow and and he's just can handle so much intellectually.
(40:50):
And I think too, now it's like we have when
everyone's healthy. Is not everybody for this game, but so
many different weapons from the throw to you. You have
two running backs, you could throw it to you. It'll
be interesting too if you put both backs out there
at times with Rico out there at the same time.
Speaker 6 (41:02):
Were etn for that man, I would I.
Speaker 5 (41:04):
Would put a two headed master back there. And now, okay,
figure it out, go ahead and stop them because they
are the running backs that we have are really really good,
and the peripheral vision putting a foot in the ground
and getting some positive yards. They all can do it.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
There's also a little bit of a sense of calm
hunter renfro back, even though Feeling has been traded. Jalen
Cocher is hurt just having a veteran in what is
otherwise a very young wide receiver room.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
Yeah, I like how to refro. I think he's gonna
be just flat out outstanding. And I think the fact
that if you put him in the slot he gets see
he reminds me so much of feeling a little bit
in that in that regard, and then I'm xcel has
to go ahead and ball out. I think, leget, you
gotta eat.
Speaker 7 (41:46):
I think if I wouldn't use the word pressure. But
there's an expectation for growth. I think it's from Xavier
Leaguet this year from last year. And I don't forget
David Moore. He was not only a leader, he's helpful.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
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