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September 15, 2025 • 42 mins
This week on Panther Talk, Anish, Jim and Eugene speak with Dave Canales, KK Short, and Wes Durham about the Panthers week 2 loss to the Arizona Cardinals, injuries along the offensive line, and this weeks home opener against the Atlanta Falcons.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
This is Panther Talk on the Carolina Panthers running on Network.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
We should be sick right now because we see what
we can be when we are executing, when we are
playing assignment football and we're playing the fundamentals of ball.
We see what we can be. But can we be
that consistently? And that's what we're headed for and that's
what we're getting back to work for this week.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
And now, along with Jim Zoki and Eugene Robinson, here's
a Niche Shroff with Panther Talk live from the Panthers
broadcast facility at Bank of America Studio.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Welcome to Panther Talk and a shrop Jim Zochie, Eugene
Robinson with you on this Monday, and as always, we
start the show with the head coach of the Carolina Panthers,
Dave Canalis coach. A lot to unpack from Sunday. A
lot of things that you like the end of the game,
maybe not so much at the beginning of the game.
But I want to start with what you just talked

(01:05):
about at the beginning of your press conferences injuries to
Robert Hunt and Austin Corbett both going on ir first,
just from a leadership standpoint, what do those guys mean
to the locker room?

Speaker 4 (01:17):
Those guys are so important to our group. They've been studs.
They've been very supportive of my messaging, of our messaging
as a team, and they've echoed the things that we
want to get done on a daily basis, how we
want to practice, how we want to play football. They've
been amazing. They've been out there working hard. Rob would
play through stuff, he never missed practice. You know, this

(01:39):
is really the first significant injury he's had, so in Austin,
you know, to get hurt last year and then to
get hurt again this year, you know, my heart, just
like you know, really hurts for Austin and his family
and all the hard work it takes to get back
to this point, compete and win a job. So there,
we're definitely going to miss those guys, you know, and
fortunately we got Caid Mace we played a lot of

(02:01):
football with last year, and Chandler Zavala, who spot played
here and there last year but finished on a high
note and had a really good offseason, and these guys
are going to have an opportunity to show us what
they can do.

Speaker 5 (02:12):
Coach, how much does that change your play calling when
you have to go ahead and you know that you
got a substitute.

Speaker 6 (02:17):
Guys, then it does not. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
I think that's the confidence I have in this offense,
this offensive line, is that I know that these guys
are familiar with the schemes that we're doing, and I
know the I know how to play with kid and
and I expect Chandler to be able to step in
and understand how we're trying to attack defenses.

Speaker 7 (02:36):
Especially losing Roberts big and with Austin with his veteran
leadership there be does it may be more so even
in fact, your your your depth is more impactede as
you know you've got quality guys stepping up and that
starting the backups now.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
Absolutely, And that's the part where you know we have uh,
we have UH, we have Brandon Walton, and we had
a Jared Kingston who are here working with us. And
then we're looking around the league to see who else
there is, who there might be that can come in
and help us.

Speaker 6 (03:03):
So that's where we do have to address some of
the depth issues.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Coach. The way you guys finished on Sunday, almost completing
what would have been the biggest comeback in franchise history,
how do you parse that with the way the game started?
Where I think in hindsight you say, yeah, better started,
maybe a different result.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
Yeah, I think it would have been a different game.
It put us in a mode that we're comfortable playing
and throwing the ball, allowing Bryce to see different things,
make adjustments, the guys to be able to tack with
different pass concepts. While that's a lot of fun and
I enjoy looking at the coverages, troubleshooting things, finding this one.

(03:46):
How can I mix this temple play in there. It's
very exciting, it's very fun. It's a tough place to
be in, you know, and we don't want to have
to be playing that kind of ball, you know, where
they're playing umbrella defense and they're trying to mix up
where they put the safeties, you know. But at the
same time, like that's what we had. Those are the
cards we were dealt. We showed up here to finish

(04:06):
a full game, So let's go finish the game. And
I just love that about Bryce. I love that about
our guys who just continue to work hard, work together offense,
defense and special teams to get us the ball back,
to get the on side s kick and give us
a chance. So I love seeing that character show up
in our group.

Speaker 5 (04:26):
Coach, was there any thought of in that last drive
where you guys were trying to go ahead and score
to win the game? Was there any thought of moving
Bryce out of the pocket or what were they doing
defensively that maybe would have kind of limited him maybe
keeping him in the pocket.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
Yeah, that's a good strategy, Eugene. I mean, you bring
up a good point, you know. I like the concepts
that we had. I've overthought that drive now for about
the last you know, twelve or thirteen hours, and just
looking at that, you know, just wanting to see I
could have called this year. I could have called that there.
I called the plays we knew. I called the plays
I know we could execute at a high level, full speed.

(05:02):
That's always a good default, you know. And we didn't execute,
and we had a couple of penalties in there, and
they try to give it to us back, you know,
kind of went back and forth there a little bit.
But that's not a bad thought.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yeah, it's a great point because I think when you're
on the outside looking in or you're watching from home, well,
why didn't he call this? Why didn't he go to this?
And you see it in practice, like how much of
that menu when you get into crunch time is okay?
Like these have to be the best place.

Speaker 6 (05:27):
Yeah, there's no magical call.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
It's what you have most time on, task on And
I think that's life, right, I think. I don't think
you make stuff up in your life. You know, if
this thing works for you, this is what you're gonna do.

Speaker 8 (05:38):
Now.

Speaker 6 (05:38):
We learn.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
Now, we learn, we grow, you know, we add things
and we practice it, you know, and when we feel
confident and say this thing is ready for primetime, then
it becomes a part of who we are.

Speaker 7 (05:48):
This is not a question specific to the game yesterday,
more of a general question about when to go for
two points. And there's always like a sheet about you mathematically,
but in your mind, like as a head coach making
that decision as far as time in the game versus
the point differential, when do you have like a kind
of by feel thing or how do you decide with
each situation if you're behind a when to go for
two points.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
We have all those metrics ups there, so I'm just
talking to George Lee throughout that time.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Coach Tedoro McMillan goes for one hundred yards in his
second game. He just seems to have a knack for
making it look smooth, making it look easy. Did you
see this kind of start coming from a guy like him,
even though he was a top ten pick and had
all the accolades.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
I was hopeful he showed it in camp, you know,
and he showed it certainly in college. And that's the
reason why we picked him as high as we did
because of all those attributes. It's the fundamentals of playing
wide receiver. It's attacking the ball, it's having clean feet
at the top, it's having a plan after you catch it.
What am I going to do with this ball? And
it doesn't happen by accident. This is a guy who

(06:51):
does it every day in practice, and whether it's in
routes versus air, he'll catch it and he'll make a
move immediately, and he's teaching his body how to react
and respond to where he catches it.

Speaker 6 (07:03):
What foot am I going to put down and set
the dB up?

Speaker 4 (07:06):
So I can break back the other way, or am
I going to run through this one to have to
shave it back down. He's playing the game. He's using
his imagination in practice. The best players I've been around
have an ability to take their minds to the game
in practice. And he just showing he's just showing an
ability to have that kind of maturity and work at it.
You know, it's from work. It's from hard work.

Speaker 5 (07:26):
Coach on the depa side of wall, you guys were
able to stop to run. What did you guys do
last week that you've improved upon this week?

Speaker 4 (07:35):
Yeah, we really emphasized tackling, and I think if you
look at the if you look at the Jags game,
you know it came down to a couple of mistackles.
We had a couple TFLs that we weren't able to secure.
There were some mistackles on the second level that leaked
out to explosive plays. So but A, Jared and I
got together and we were like, hey, let's let's make
sure we emphasize the different angles of tackling. He put

(07:58):
together a beautiful tackling circuit and had the guys roll
through it all the positions. The whole defense, you know,
which is uncommon. Mostly you do your tackling drills by position.
But I wanted this to be a full corporate decision. Guys,
we need to commit to be better tacklers. Are tackling improved?

Speaker 9 (08:13):
Will we perfect?

Speaker 8 (08:14):
No?

Speaker 4 (08:15):
They have great players too. They did a great job
getting their guys in space and making us miss a
few times, But in general, it came down to tackling,
and it was the attention to detail.

Speaker 6 (08:24):
Is the way that they.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
Were conscientious about their fits and their communication throughout a
week of practice. And I want to make sure that
I give those guys love for being able to see
the product of his show up on game.

Speaker 7 (08:34):
Day talk about team AC a moment ago. Of course,
we saw a lot of Bryce and Tremain in the preseason,
but the reach back for that difficult reception he made
and then fourth and sixteen gets twenty six yards out
of that. The confidence he seems to have with your
coaching staff and with Bryce right now, how can you
kind of tell us a little bit more about how
he's performing as a young player with you guys.

Speaker 6 (08:52):
Yeah, he's been so reliable.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
Just he studies and he arrives at the right time,
he gets his depth and he gets to the void,
he gets to the spot, and that really carries out
through special teams as well. It's a guy that we
can count on and a guy that has played really
aggressively and has shown us that he'll come through for us.

Speaker 5 (09:10):
Well, Sandersy even more action. I thought he was a
guy who just showed up and it was kind of
real rugged catching that ball for you.

Speaker 6 (09:17):
He did a great job, I thought.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
I thought the way that he finished the second half
of the game was brilliant, you know. And I think
in the first half he had some opportunities that he missed.
And so I believe j T will emerge as one
of our guys we can count on, and that's that's
what we're expecting from him, and I think he expects
that from himself as well.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Coach, I know it was a tough game for Xcel.
What's your message to lead get We know he's got
the potential and he's got the build. How does that
get unlocked?

Speaker 4 (09:45):
Keep grinding, There's no way around it. Just keep working
and he's he's wired the right way. I love x
I got his back and I'm gonna keep pushing him
to keep working and good things will come. Because that's
all that's been true for him. That's all that's been
true for me. Is when you work hard and you
do your job, you get better and better at it,
and he'll continue to improve.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Did it seem like early in the game you guys
were trying to get him involved, get him some touches early,
to get build some confidence. Yep.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
I just wanted him to just get the ball in
his hands, feel it, you know, and try to give
him a few ops. They didn't amount to much, but
it was the opportunities presenting if they were presented with
the right looks, could get him out there in space
and let him be big and fast like he is,
you know, and then for the rest of the game.
I will say this, he played better. He played better
in this game. The work that he put in last

(10:32):
week showed up this speed up play and all those things.
He just didn't get the opportunities at times because the
ball was going somewhere else. And that's what happens sometimes,
you know, whether it's us or any other team, a
receiver will come out with three catches, one catch, a
couple of targets. It happens around the league. And it
happened for Excel, and I just want to continue to
encourage him. The work will pay off. The dividends are

(10:54):
showing on game day. Now, We'll just we just have
to rely on making those opportunities when they come to you.

Speaker 9 (10:59):
Coach, what is you miss to the team?

Speaker 5 (11:00):
We always say about playing fast, playing clean, and when
someone that doesn't materialize, you overthink it a little bit. So
what is your message to the team about playing fast?

Speaker 4 (11:10):
Yeah, just looking at the progress, you know, looking at
the things that we emphasized last week and that we
improved this week. Can we take the next step? Hey,
there are a couple of other things showed up for
us this week. Can we improve this thing, you know,
and to the point where you get to playing really
good football? And we're looking for new places to emphasize,
you know, And it's this forever evasive thing that you're chasing,

(11:32):
and it's here one day and then it's over here
another day. And I think that's my job as the
head coach is to stay in tune with that with
our coaches to say what do we need to emphasize
this week to continue to push urgency and focus on
these areas.

Speaker 7 (11:44):
Of course, finished last year with that great win against Atlanta.
So home game division game coming up here against the
team that played Sunday night beat the Bikings. Kind of
some of your initial thoughts on taking on Atlanta coming
up this week.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
This is a fantastic group. They've added some young talent.
They got two awesome runners. They got skilled players playing
on the outside, Jake London, Kyle Pitts, you know, Darnell Mooney,
a couple of players that can certainly make plays. And
then on the defensive side, they added two rookie rushers,
you know, behind Leonard Floyd and Ebikehetti. And you know,

(12:15):
this is a group that really did a good job
from an organizational organizationally and the coaches to add some
talent to this group, and so they look like they're
playing hard for each other, you know. So this is
this is a great opportunity for us to play a
division game against a really good team and for us
to show the improvement that we've made and also to
see this team and see who the Falcons are for

(12:36):
twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Home opener Sunday against the Falcons should be fun. Thank you, Dave.
All right, Thanks guys, all right, Panthers head coach Dave Canalis.
You're listening to the Carolina Panthers Radio network.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
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Speaker 1 (12:59):
With Jim and Eugene A Niche. It is a segment
two here on Panther Talk. Carolina coming off a close
loss twenty seven to twenty two to Arizona. One of
those games we talked to Dave Canalis in the first
segment where at one point it looked like this might
be a runaway train, and then all of a sudden,

(13:20):
the Panthers got back on the track and nearly pulled
off what would have been the biggest comeback in franchise history.
They came close, couldn't quite finish it. But a lot
to unpack in this game. I want to start with
a couple of positives. One, if you look under the
hood on the offense, Eugene, this is a team again
two games, sample size is small. They average almost seven

(13:43):
plays per drive, that's third in the NFL through two weeks.
Three and out percentage five percent, that's second in the NFL.
That's good. Through two games. They're moving the ball and
we saw that in Week one, six drives getting into
plus terror against Jacksonville only two scores. They're getting into

(14:05):
plus territory. They've done it on the majority of their
drives this season. I think it's thirteen out of nineteen
something like that. In that second half, especially in that
fourth quarter, they're finding the end zone. They're finishing the drives.
That's good. I think the one thing you can maybe
point your finger at is it's still an offense that

(14:28):
could use a few more explosive plays. We saw McMillan
get a big one, but there were times when Arizona
almost said, Okay, you want to go downfield, it's gonna
take fifteen plays and you're gonna take six minutes off
the clock. And that's kind of what happened. And then
you start to run out of time.

Speaker 9 (14:44):
You do run out of time. Here's the thing. I mean.

Speaker 5 (14:47):
There was some really great positives, no doubt about that.
And I think one of the major positives is Tea
mac I think he is exceptional. He's more than that
first round draw pick. He's that guy that he really
is that guy. I think what the enemy of that
is has been the turnovers. The enemy to what you're saying,
has been the turnovers, whether it's interceptions, whether it's the fumbles.

(15:09):
It's been the offensive line and having the breach this
in the offensive line, now hurrying the quarterback. Now the
quarterback has taking a sack. Shouldn't take this. Now he's
getting the fumble. He slid last week and should have
You should have slid last week and got protection. And
then he tried to go get a little extra a
little bit more. Those have the been the drive killers.

(15:29):
Beyond penalties. When you get a set back like an
interception and a turnover, it just demoralizes you and now
you gotta behind eight ball, and now you're trying to
do something special when you get back on the field
instead of just running the regular offense or just being yeah,
just being regular. And so from that standpoint, I think
one of the biggest enemies have been the turnovers.

Speaker 9 (15:49):
Has just been killer.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
And I don't think that we're a good enough team
to survive turnovers. No team is good enough to survive turnovers.
But when you have a fumble interception back to back,
that hurts Jim.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
It almost felt like the first few minutes of the
first quarter, the last two minutes of the second quarter.
That was kind of the game.

Speaker 7 (16:12):
Yeah, and then and then Arizona go build a lead,
and then they got some injuries on the defensive side.
So I think they kind of had for two reasons,
kind of settle back and go we don't have everybody
probably went a little more base, probably more keep it
in front of you kind of defense. So the pressure
wasn't there as much. But at the end when they
had to turn it up, Klais Campbell, you know, win
some of his matchups, got his second sack of the
game at the age of thirty nine. Do you think

(16:33):
Eugene with that being the blueprint teams are looking at
right now? With the injuries on the Panthers' offensive line
till proven otherwise, like the Panthers can expect a heavy
dose of that blitzing and extra pressure testing that offensive
line starting this week.

Speaker 9 (16:44):
This is no doubt.

Speaker 5 (16:44):
You talk about Hunting Corbett not being in the mix,
and now you have to bring other guys in there.
Of course, your dep at the offensive line now it diminishes,
and so don't forget when you got those backup guys
coming in, the guys who were starter as generally starters
the other teams that you play. I said, there going
like this, hold up.

Speaker 9 (17:02):
He's not playing.

Speaker 5 (17:03):
Who's not playing, Corper's not playing, H's not playing. Oh,
I'm about to eat. And so they coming in with
a different mentality and a different attitude. It's like always
having a backup guy that comes in. But soon as
your backup the quarterback, if you have backup safety comes in,
the quarterback knows who you are.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
They go right at you.

Speaker 5 (17:20):
And so from that standpoint, I'm gonna this offensive line.
You better get ready because they're gonna throw the kitchen
sink at you. You're gonna see a lot of games
and stuffs right in your face, and you gotta hold up.

Speaker 8 (17:31):
You know.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
It's interesting because the Week three opponent is Atlanta, which
has been struggling to find a pass rush for years.
And then they go out and they draft Jalen Walker,
they draft James Pears. We'll see if they can get
pressure on Bryce Young. They couldn't get pressure on Bryce
Young in Week eighteen last year. But not to bring
back old stuff, go back two years ago when the

(17:53):
Panthers got really beat up on the interior of the
offensive line. We saw what that did. Now they're deeper.
Zavala is now a year three guy. Cade Mays has
been in the league now for a few years, so
you've got some more trustworthy bodies in there. But they
really need to now count on the depth on the
offensive line that they've built up over the years. I

(18:14):
want to come back to your point on t Mac though,
because Eugene t Mac it's two games, it is a
very small sample size. He's making it look so easy,
and he is the type of number one wide receiver,
which he clearly already is. He might be that guy
that we look to on other teams. Oh, they got
Justin Jefferson, they got Jamar Chase. Again, he's not there yet,

(18:38):
but he has shown you signs he might be that
kind of guy. DJ Moore was a really good wide
receiver and he was a number one, but he wasn't
on the level of those guys. T Mac's upside is tantalizing.

Speaker 5 (18:51):
There's no doubt. I mean, I love the way he
plays football. I love his attitude. I like the way
he goes about it. And then he just makes the
defensive backs just you know, just like a little pedestrian
a little bit. I mean, he catches the ball turns
up the field and gets and gets some positives.

Speaker 9 (19:06):
Now, does he have that great you know, blazing speed.

Speaker 5 (19:10):
No, but the fact that he can catch the ball,
his catch radius and in fact he kiss the ball
with either hand one handed, he's just amazing. You gotta
go ahead and stop him by doing great plays.

Speaker 9 (19:20):
You just can't.

Speaker 5 (19:22):
You just can't just go ahead and come from You
gotta harass him. And so from that standpoint, he's that guy.
He's every bit of like when I think of I've
been a fan of Tim Brown when he was with
the I've been a fan of Tim Brown.

Speaker 9 (19:33):
Was just was that guy.

Speaker 5 (19:35):
I'm like, man, this is something special about t Mac
that I gotta get him the rock. And I'm sitting
there like this, Bryce, feed him, dude, just feed him.
Let him eat, Let him eat, Let him eat. Because
he's gonna give defensive backs because they're gonna underestimate him
because he's a tall guy. He's gonna give defensive backs
a lot of problems.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
You know who I always thought Tim Brown was. Tim
Brown was the Tim Rains of football, where Tim Rains
would have been viewed totally different if not for Ricky Anderson.
We've viewed Tim Brown totally different if not for Jerry Rice.

Speaker 10 (20:05):
Yeah, no, no doubt about it.

Speaker 9 (20:06):
A great point.

Speaker 10 (20:07):
And those are you know, great players, and great players
find ways.

Speaker 7 (20:09):
Because now, and we saw it late in the Arizona game,
you know, teams are gonna start like trying to take
that away from you as much as they can at
least limit how much team ac because he is so
much more dynamic than anything else in the receiving game
for the Panthers. While there's some good guys, there's nobody
to that ceiling of being dynamic. So he's got to
win those one on one matchups now, which the great
players do, like you can try to take them away,
but you know what, double moves are different kind of

(20:30):
ways of using him where they've got to get him
free and he's got to win some fifty fifty balls.

Speaker 9 (20:34):
Probably yeah, and he has to catch radius to win
those balls.

Speaker 5 (20:38):
He's really really good, and I like him in space,
and I even like when he's when he's being covered.
I'm like, you know what, he has a chance of
getting the ball every single time that you have to
go ahead and raak his arms. You got to do
something that's really special against Tea macas so I think
we got to win it. Now, what does that both
for a leget? Dude, you're gonna get single covers due eat.

Speaker 10 (21:01):
You gotta go eat.

Speaker 5 (21:02):
Use that big size of your to your avengage, young man,
go ahead and eat because when they started, you know,
focusing on teammac is gonna leave you wide open to
go ahead and have a great complimentary day. So make
sure you go take advantage of it. And if i'm
if i'm XL, I'm thinking that way.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
All right, we're gonna talk Falcons a little bit. West Durham,
the voice of the Atlanta Falcons, will join us when
we come back here on the Carolina Panthers Radio Network.

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Speaker 7 (21:46):
Defensive tackle KK Short spent his entire eight year NFL
career as a Carolina Panther from twenty thirteen to twenty twenty,
twice selected for the Pro Bowl, and.

Speaker 10 (21:55):
Of course a part of the Super Bowl fifty team.

Speaker 7 (21:57):
We'll talk about that season, that game, and a lot
more today with KK.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Short, thirty seasons of Panther Football a celebration of the players, coaches,
and other key figures who've contributed to the organizational success.

Speaker 7 (22:14):
In twenty fifteen, you were the defensive Player of the
Month in the NFC for October. He had eleven sacks
in that season, which tied for the most of any
defensive tackle, and you were surrounded by great players. So
I obviously expect you to be complimentary about that goes.
But for you, how did your game feel and like
where you were in your career at that moment.

Speaker 11 (22:31):
You know, when you get to the lead day because
of Washington Man, because he was on my tail heavy,
you know, since I got here, and that the most
important thing. He told me there's no reassuring in the NFL,
and you know, that's kind of one of the things
you need to put yourself in a position to play.
And year three just kind of slowed down for me.
I kind of more understood the game, more understood what

(22:52):
needed to do, what was expected out of me, And
I think overall, just the mental of it helped me
out so much. Once you know what you're doing, but
once you know what you have to do and you
do it, you know it takes off a lot of
the pressure. So, I mean, the players that we had
was amazing, but the guys that was surrounding you know,
I can say all the names you know to this day,

(23:13):
but those guys complimented me so much that I so much.

Speaker 9 (23:20):
I'm out of respect for those guys to understand that they.

Speaker 11 (23:23):
Opened up the door, you know, watched down and Colin
Cole and just seeing what those guys were doing before
me and what they was doing while I was there,
it was just another thing to just say, this is
why I want to mark my game out there. And
it just like I said, when I say it slowed down,
it just slowed down for me.

Speaker 7 (23:37):
And then you get to the playoffs and you guys, Seattle,
you're up thirty one, nothing ends thirty one, twenty four
to make the comeback the next week Arizona, you guys
just blistered them.

Speaker 10 (23:48):
Were you guys mad when Seattle.

Speaker 7 (23:49):
Defensively, cause you guys are such a good defense when
they came back and got those twenty four points?

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Were you mad?

Speaker 7 (23:54):
And to have obviously it's the NFC championship gave me
have a huge sense of purpose, but even more so,
just mindful of the fact of what had happened the
week before.

Speaker 11 (24:01):
I think we were just upset that before that Seattle
had our number and you know, they beat us since
I was there, and then year three it just turned around.
But we was disappointed of how we just lacked towards
the end of how we made them let they come
back like that, And we really was trying to put
together a perfect season and we needed to do that.

(24:22):
Going to a week after just to see if we can,
you know, make a run at what we're trying.

Speaker 7 (24:27):
To do super Bowl obviously is a disappointment, and it
is what it is. As another coach would have said here,
at one point, you guys just felt like the better team.
You look at the yardage, you just look at everything
about that game. It was just a couple of things
that got away that you guys weren't doing during the
regular season.

Speaker 11 (24:44):
I think the the thing I can say is that
we had to any mistakes, and those guys were so
good that they capitalized off the mistakes that we that
we've done, and you know, far as just not even
speaking of the whole team. With as far as my effort,
I think I should have done a lot better as well,
just to help this team, you know, complete that the

(25:05):
mission that we went out there for, and we literally
didn't go out there with the energy that we had
the previous games before in this show. So just going
back and looking at that like that's a game that
you always wish can get back.

Speaker 7 (25:20):
Gets lost, I'm sure not on you. Was the fact
that one of the great defensive performances in Super Bowl
history was on your defensive line, cony Ee three sacks,
forced to fumble, had an interception, and even though we
were doing the broadcast, I had to vote on that
and they only accept whoever the team winner is as
being the MVP. Cony Eely would have been the MVP

(25:40):
if the Panthers or somehow won that game.

Speaker 9 (25:42):
Was definitely, I mean, his game.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 11 (25:49):
What he did in that game, his stats, the way
he proposed, proposed, the way he prepared for that game.

Speaker 9 (25:57):
Before leading up to that game.

Speaker 11 (25:59):
That we it was only and that he was going
to have that type of game, and just to see
him out there and just having a live view of
it like it was, it was awesome to see.

Speaker 9 (26:08):
He definitely would have got MVB.

Speaker 7 (26:10):
All right, Well, here we are ten years later, as
you look back at that season, but honestly, your career
at two time prot bol player, I mentioned only a
Carolina Panther in your career. What are the things that
you you kind of when you're sitting in your easy
chair on a Sunday not playing football that it kind
of makes you smile when you look back at your
time with the Panthers.

Speaker 11 (26:26):
It was an unbelievable time. Man, whether it was good
or bad, I think it was one of those ones
that moved me into a better man, a better person
to understand that. You know, life is a roller coaster,
is going to go up and down. It's just how
about you gotta get off of it and you gotta
figure it out. So I think that's where you know,
the life after football, trying to figure it out. Like
during football, you got to figure it out. But at
the end of the day, man, it's it's how you

(26:48):
approach it, all right.

Speaker 9 (26:50):
Well, great to see a good KK.

Speaker 10 (26:51):
Appreciate you, Thank you, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
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Speaker 1 (27:18):
A niece Jim Eugene back here on Panther Talk. Week three,
Carolina turns its attention to division rival Atlanta home opener
at Bank of America Stadium one pm on Sunday, and
calling the game on the Falcons Radio network is the
voice of the Atlanta Falcons and our good friend Wes Durham.
We bring in West and West before we get started.

(27:42):
It looks like you guys have a real Uma Oprah
situation on your hands in Atlanta. Bijon, Bijon, No.

Speaker 8 (27:52):
It's it's okay. So when he was a rookie, he
arrived at training camp and he was telling a story
and quoting somebody who was talking to him. He said, Jeon,
and he answered to Bijeon. And so finally at training camp,
I think it was Tory Mcalaney, who covers the Falcons

(28:14):
for the website for the team now and Tory at
the time I think she was working for the athletic
may have already been working for the team, But nonetheless,
she said, is it Bejon or is it Bejeon? And
he said in training camp, my mom calls me Bejeon,
and so Dave Archer and I looked at each other
and went, well, I guess we know what we're going

(28:35):
to call him. And the funny thing was the first
I don't know half of his rookie season a niche,
people were like, you're not calling him by his name,
and we had to actually say on the air once again,
by the way, Jean Robinson, the rookie from Texas. And
the reason we're calling him the Jeon is because he
said he'll accept both pronunciations of his name, but his

(28:58):
mom prefers Bejon, and that's what she prefers. That's what
we prefer.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
What was the line from Coming to America If his mamma.

Speaker 9 (29:04):
Call cla, I'm yeah, Mama call m clay, I'm gonna Clay.

Speaker 5 (29:09):
That was the same line, and I was thinking of
the same line too, Mamma called cla, I'm gonna play yeah.

Speaker 8 (29:14):
So he's the John Robinson to me, and it's been great,
and he's in my opinion, as good as Michael Pennix
has been and some of these other things. He is
now the face of this franchise in my opinion, and
he is a star and has proven it and proved
it on on Sunday night in Minneapolis for sure, maybe.

Speaker 7 (29:33):
The biggest news since uh, Anthony Dorsett became Tony vice person.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
There, Hey, what became right?

Speaker 7 (29:40):
And we know why that's Brandon, We know why that
one was. What are you seeing out of Penick so
far at quarterback? And not the biggest numbers, but when
you got a guy that can run for one forty
three like Jon? Uh, what are you seeing about your
your quarterback here in season two?

Speaker 8 (29:52):
You know, Jim, here's the thing. You guys saw him
in his final start of the last season, and you
know he threw people up open and put up some
numbers and you know it was the defense that kind
of went to sleep in the in the Week eighteen
game last year. Michael's been very even keeled, which I appreciate.
I think a guy who's had three starts, who you know,

(30:13):
diligently wasted his time and then got an opportunity. I
thought he played well against Tampa. I thought he was
much better on Sunday night. You know, hasn't had a
turnover yet from in terms of an interception or a
fumble in his particular area. But the one thing he
has done is kind of maintained composure.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Now.

Speaker 8 (30:32):
They went through a little bit of a learning curve
in that opening drive Sunday night, because you know, the
crowd in Minneapolis was just roaring at him, and so
they had to kind of overcome that a little bit
and they got through that part of it. But he
does a really good job, I think at keeping everything
in an even keel, and that's going to be important.
I think in Charlotte on Sunday, you know, a second

(30:54):
straight road game for him. They're coming off of obviously
a pretty big emotional high from the from the in Minneapolis,
and Michael's at the forefront of that, and the guys
around him play hard for him, and he's worked diligently,
I think, to give himself a chance to be successful
in this league by the way he handles all the
details that you expect every good quarterback to do.

Speaker 9 (31:15):
What what does the receiving called London piss emiie, what do.

Speaker 6 (31:20):
They give you?

Speaker 8 (31:21):
Well, I think you're you're looking at Drake London. In
my opinion, Eugene eleven catches is a little low for
him through two ballgames, because I think he's got a
chance to have just a remarkable season. But you know
he's catching, He's catching one and a half on every snap.
I mean, you know, you got to at least the
one guy and then there's somebody else looming in the shadows.

(31:41):
I think Kyle Pitts has been the beneficiary of the
coverages on London. Robinson's nine catches includes the big fifty
yard er on the third snap of the season to
take the early lead against Tampa. But to me, London
and Kyle Pitts are the two guys that that are
the ones that are going to detonate the pass game. Now,
Darnell Mooney came back on Sunday night for the first time.

(32:05):
He did not play in the opener against Tampa. Casey
Washington got shaken up in that first game. He was
inactive the other night, you know. But I think the
London Pits Robinson are probably the guys and then you
throw in Mooney, those are the guys that are going
to be the primary weapons. I think for Michael Pennox
this year.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
For sure, Wes coming into this season, popular refrain around
the Falcons defense was when are they going to find
this pass rush? When are they going to draft a
pass rusher? Well, yeah, you drafted two six sacks Sunday
night against the Vikings. I mean, did Goodo show up?
Do the Falcons finally have a pass rush?

Speaker 8 (32:44):
They do and Sunday. The biggest problem for the two
rookie pass rushers is probably how many tickets are they
going to be able to get their hands on because
Pierce is from Charlotte and Walkers from Salisbury. So I
don't know if Cabaris County can all you know, all
those guys that knew Peers from from Mecklenburg County can

(33:05):
fit in the other corner, don't. I don't know how
that's gonna work. But no, both guys have been affected.
But the natural progression of what this defense has gone
through from just a development and experience standpoint guys, I
think has helped it a lot. And that's why Ernold
Devi Cady's off to such a good start. They made
a strong acquisition in the offseason and divined Diablo. I

(33:26):
thought they had to have that kind of guy to
go with Kaden Ellis. But Jalen Walker, James Pierce Junior,
Arnold Vi Kat Leonard Floyd is back in town played
at Georgia is from Georgia, you know, spent his career
kind of bouncing around and now plays kind of for
the home state team. So they've got three four guys

(33:47):
that I think can legitimately go get potentially six to
nine sacks, maybe more depending on the vibe. And I
think they fortified themselves at linebacker with Diablo. The real
question is how are they going to do against the run?
And amazingly, at least early on, they're doing okay. And
that was one of my biggest concerns tell us when

(34:07):
the year started, was would this team be able to
withstand the run? And so far, so good through two games.
But as we all know, that's an equation that has
to be answered on every Sunday right in the National
Football League. So it could be a very different story
this week for sure, as it was a successful on
Sunday night. We'll see how it is this Sunday.

Speaker 7 (34:28):
In regard to you drafting the Charlotte kids, we're all
breathing aside with relieves that Tedero McMillan has looked as
good as he has, because I would been double edge
to see those guys playing well and us missing on
that one. And then you guys maybe at the signing
of the week for what you needed for the game
on Sunday night with Parker Romo coming in at kicker.
We never talked about five of five. One was fifty
plus with the young Way Coup out. And I'm sure

(34:50):
it's truly in the week to know what's going on
with your kickers health right now, but what the guy
to bring to the practice squad and then show up
in the spotlight.

Speaker 8 (34:57):
Well, young Way Coup was a was a healthy downgrade, Jim,
I mean this is a this was young Way Coup
was a question mark when the season started. He was
a question mark in camp. Both Raheem Morris and GM
Terry Fontineo said they felt good about where he was.
And then we'd get into the first game and there's

(35:18):
a missed extra point. There is the field golden overtime.
You know that obviously goes over the top of the out,
It goes over the outside of the right upright, things
of that nature, and they they're not gonna let they
weren't gonna let this linger because some of the things
that had happened late last year just kind of caused
all this. To be honest, and I'll give you a

(35:38):
couple of numbers here, because when you when you make
changes like this, and we've all seen them in the
National Football League. But young Way Coup in his last
nine games was twelve of twenty. Okay, he was nine
of sixteen indoors, and he had six misses inside of
fifty yards. So it wasn't like this was a flip
of the switch and all of a sudden they decided

(35:59):
to make the change. They and they went and saw
Parker Romo, who some may remember at Virginia Tech as
John Parker Romo, now just the Parker Romo, but he
was in a kicking competition in New England in training
camp and it went right to the wire. I guess
with Borgallis who won the job. And at the end

(36:19):
of the day, to be honest with you, I was
really impressed with his moxie Sunday night.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
You guys love your name changes down in Atlanta, don't you.

Speaker 8 (36:27):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's huge. But yeah, he came
in and you know, hit the first one, which I
think he said after the game his nerves were just everywhere,
and then the next four were pretty clean, including the
one he hit from from fifty plus. So yeah, I'm
excited to see where that goes. It's going to be
really really interesting. I think is the season of Bolves.

(36:47):
But I would I would assume, and I'm not expecting,
but I think it's possible you may get a final
resolve on the two situations sometime this week.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
All right, well, West, before we let you go, we
had a glimpse of at Week eighteen last year, Rice Young,
Michael Pennix. Yeah, from the Falcons perspective, what can this
quarterback rivalry be potentially for a long time?

Speaker 8 (37:14):
You know, it's funny, isn't it. We had what do
we have? I think we had about six years of
Cam and Matt Ryan. Yeah, it felt that way, and
that was really good when it was going. Now, I
mean really good because playmakers were everywhere, both guys. You know,
they had opportunistic defenses, and they had run games and
all sorts of things. And I think we're on the

(37:36):
cusp here. You know, Zoke mentioned McMillan. I was a
huge fan of his when he played at Arizona. I
think that guy's got amazing talent and he's certainly showing
it now with eleven catches in his first two games.
And I even liked the acquisition of Renfro. I think
Renfro is a perfect Carolina panther. Thank God his daughter
to let the phone down so the calls could get through.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
Louis an addictive show. Coming from the father of a.

Speaker 8 (38:00):
Soon to be eight year old, I was getting ready
to say, you know, better than most I would say this,
I think the rivalry and I said it on the
air Sunday night. I think the old eighty five thing
is back. Yeah, And that's a good thing. That's a
really good thing because I think this division, and I
don't know how you guys feel about it, seeing the
two teams you did and we've obviously Atlanta suth Tampa

(38:20):
in the Week one, I think this thing may take
eighteen weeks to play out. I really do. I think
it's you know, I know New Orleans is zing too,
and you guys are zering too, but it feels like,
you know, we'll see what Tampa does tonight in Houston,
but it feels like this thing could go the full
the full fight, and if so, I think that's great
for great for the division, and great for the two
franchises here in particular.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Been that way for a few years now he's Westurham,
the voice of the Atlanta Falcons. West Save travels to
Charlotte this weekend. Enjoy the pit stop in Charlottesville and
we will see on Sunday.

Speaker 8 (38:52):
I'll look forward to it. Guys, take care, thanks for
having you.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
That's a great West Durham giving us the lowdown on
the Atlanta Falcons. We'll be back here on the Carolina
Panthers Radio Network.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
Panther Talk continues on the Carolina Panthers Radio Network.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
It's one of those coaching cliches that you hear, start fast.
What boy, do we need to start fast on Sunday
against the Falcons.

Speaker 7 (39:20):
It's funny because in Arizona they're saying finish because you know,
they barely hung on for the win they had at
New Orleans week one, and then they barely hung on
to the Panthers win.

Speaker 10 (39:28):
So if you're not starting fast, you better finish fast.

Speaker 5 (39:30):
You better play clean. You know, you gotta play some
clean football. Here's a big problem. When you don't play
clean football, like minimize those mistakes, then everything kind of
just falls apart. It just doesn't and then when you
get behind the eight ball, I don't care every player
you try to push a little bit. The coaches may
change things a little bit, like they won't try to

(39:51):
sit to their game plan. But they can't because they're
behind the eight ball. They're trying to go ahead and
catch up. And so next standpoint, you got to play
clean fast, Well, that way you can stay and stay
to your game plan.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
I almost view this as one of the gladiator movies.
You ever watched Gladiators?

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Right, what did the gladiators say when they get in
the arena. What's one of the things they make sure
they have to do.

Speaker 5 (40:12):
So they got to say we are about to die, say, LUCU,
win the one thing, win the crowd. Oh yeah, you
gotta win the crowd, right, you gotta win the crowd.

Speaker 10 (40:21):
You don't want the thumbs down, that's bad.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
You want the thumbs up, or at least thumb's neutral
thumbs thumbs.

Speaker 8 (40:28):
A day.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
But we've got the home crowd. It's the home opener.
Start fast, get off to a good start, play clean,
win the crowd, use the crowd. These people want to
want the Panthers to be successful. For being honest, there's
probably some angst and frustration, yes, some other things. Right,
you don't want to give them a reason for that

(40:49):
to come out, especially early in the game. I think
it's imperative this week to get off to a good start.

Speaker 5 (40:55):
And so when you win the crowd to this point,
that's like I need an interception, I need to force fumble,
I need I need you deficively to come up with
some plays, some big plays on Beeshawn Robinson and that
whole crew.

Speaker 6 (41:06):
Or take the lead, or take the lead, run the ball.

Speaker 7 (41:09):
It wasn't a good running the ball week for us,
so we got this I think three running backs, So
I know the lines will have some changes there, but
you shorten the game, you control the game a little
bit more, and every coach wants to run the ball.

Speaker 10 (41:18):
So hopefully it's a big running week.

Speaker 5 (41:20):
Yeah, you know, I like that win the crowd because
this stadium is going to be rocking. It's the Falcons
coming in here. It's gonna be electric here.

Speaker 9 (41:27):
In the stadium.

Speaker 10 (41:28):
I thought she was going for, Are you not entertained?

Speaker 6 (41:30):
Are not entertain Are you not entertained?

Speaker 1 (41:34):
I mean, what am I supposed to do top that.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
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