September 24, 2024 • 40 mins
This week on Panther Talk, Anish Shroff, Jim Szoke and Eugene Robinson talk with Dave Canales, Tom Luginbill, and Jon Beason about the second acts of quarterbacks in the NFL, the Panthers huge win over the Raiders and so much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The following is an exclusive presentation of the Carolina Panthers
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Here's the staff pressure off the backside.
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Tulton clots one hand, so Diontae Johnson back right corner
hangs on touch down.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Carolina, That's why you put in the work, you know,
that's why you do this. You're playing games like this
and when you put a team game together, this wasn't one.
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Side of the ball.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
This was everybody, and so we put a whole team
game together. And it's just fun to come back in here,
celebrate with everybody and just enjoy the work that we
put in.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
And now, along with Jim Zochi and Eugene Robinson, here's
a Niche Shroff with Panther Talk live from the Panthers
broadcast facility at Bank of America Stereo.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
It is the first victory Monday of the season. It's
Andy Dalton's first win as the starting quarterback for the
Carolina Panthers. It's Dave Canalis's first win as a NFL
head coach and as the Panthers head coach Carolina with
a dominating effort over the weekend in Las Vegas thirty
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six to twenty two. Panthers in the win column, they
knock off the Raiders. Let's get to it. Let's bring
in the head coach of the Carolina Panthers, Dave Canalis. Dave,
First off, congratulations, I'm getting that first win. Luke Kickley
and I before the game, we're talking about how, hey,
if the Panthers get the ball first, boy, something feels
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right about that. It's an opportunity play from ahead. What
did that opening drive do to set the tone for you, guys.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Well, first of all, it was my It was my
very first opening drive touchdown as a play caller, so
dating back to last year. Not that I've been calling
place for years, but it's got close last year a
few times, so that part of it kind of didn't
hit me until Juba actually broke the plane and then.
Speaker 6 (02:12):
A bunch of congratulations on the headsets.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
But you know, for me, it's just about the celebration
and payoff of a lot of hard work, a lot
of guys buying into the process of the week, the
amount of work. It takes to capture work Wednesday to
come back on a turnover Thursday, because our defense got
a couple away from us, so it stays turnover Thursday
for a full week, and then our focused Friday to
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stack them all together, get a review done on Saturday,
and then celebrate on Sunday. And the celebration. I really,
whether you win or you lose, that's the player's day.
Sunday is about those guys being able to enjoy the
hard work and then just put that work in on
the field and to to see it all come to life.
But you know, to have it happened for our offense,
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I was just I was really proud of the group.
I was a proud of the mix of the different
things that happened within the drive that was indicative of
the kind of football that we're hoping we can play consistently.
So so excited for our guys and and for our group.
Speaker 7 (03:12):
Dave, I've talked through the years a number of college
or pro coordinators or head coaches about, you know, opening
scripts to plays and obviously nothing that were set in
stone because downs and distance and circumstances happen. What's kind
of your general philosophy on I'm putting together opening script
as far as like in general, your number of plays,
ideas and stuff like that, when you formulate that each.
Speaker 6 (03:29):
Week, Yeah, I don't mind telling you.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Just you know, I have a thought for the drive starters,
and I like to balance it out with different types
of things runs, passes, different types of passes, you know,
and so just to keep to try to maintain that balance.
I don't have to overthink that part of it throughout
the flow of the game. And then from there it's
just a sequencing in the run pass marriage. It's something
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that Brad takes a lot of time in and pride with.
He sits with Pat McPherson, our tight ends coach, and
they kind of call it marriage counseling, and it's like,
you know, if we run these runs, do we have
actions that look like it? If we're going to throw
this play action, is there a run that looks like
it where we can gather information throughout the day and
then and then you know, the heart and soul of
that part is probably somewhere between you know, twenty and
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twenty five plays talking about first and second downs.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
Specifically of plays that we love.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
These are our favorite runs for this day, These are
our favorite actions. And sometimes it's like, you know, we're
hoping for this coverage on this pass play, but bottom
line is, this is a cool play. I can't wait
to call it and make sure it comes to life
somewhere and.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
The sequence of what we're doing.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
So it's a combination of those things that gives the
guys kind of a little bit of thought for like
a key to victory is like we hope to hit
them with these types of runs, these types of actions
and passes.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
As we get into the rhythm and flow of the.
Speaker 8 (04:45):
Game and coach the I want to go to a
couple of touchdowns, one to deep over to DJ and
to the one down the seam to Adam Thielen. There's
always an education process that takes place. Excellent throws, read
the coverage, fitting the ball, putting it in there when
you need to put it in there. What do you
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think Bryce is learning and what do you tell him
about those plays to help him become better at that
same mentality that we saw that that Dalton had.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
It's just really the whole group educating the guys on
our system and the opportunities that we find within it.
To try to, you know, pinpoint coverages at certain times,
to try to you know, get in the rhythm of
the flow of the drive, to be able to feel
out when's the best time for the protection, for the
concepts and all those things. So it's really just the
whole guy's just gaining confidence in our system, in our
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processes and how we employ things.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Coach, when you put on the film after the game,
what did it say about the physicality of this Panther
football team?
Speaker 6 (05:56):
That's Panthers football.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
That is my hope and dream a niche is that
we're in enough games where we have a lead at
the end.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
We've had a good balanced day.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
We've been we've been efficient, we've run the ball efficiently,
We've had some completions and kept drives going, and you
finish the ball with a lead, running it and making
the defense have to try to stop the mentality and
attitude of finish, which is our calling card.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
It's what we want to be about.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
We want to be in those finish positions, whether it's
in four minute grinding it out or in two minutes.
With our system and the trust and the work that's
been put in to be able to execute with all
the stakes being on there is like just to love
those moments, those critical moments of end up game situations.
And I just love the way that we were able
to just be physical, you know, huge, huge screen.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
Robert Hunt launches a guy.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
You know, we have another run where where Ikey gets
a guy on one leg and just like sends him
almost out of bounds, you know, five or six yards
cuba miles. The tight ends in there were exhaust guys
are starting. You can see their body language and demeanor.
It's like who's gonna quit first, you know, And to
just be able to continue to have that stubborn mentality
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about running the football, about the physicality of the sport,
which is like all the cue plays and everything and
it comes down to you against me for.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
All the marbles. Who wants it more?
Speaker 7 (07:21):
So?
Speaker 6 (07:22):
I just love the way we were able to finish.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, and that showed the other guy that we saw
a little more of this week was on the defensive side,
Trevin Wallace. And I'm just curious as to it seemed
you guys used him on the edge a little bit.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Is his role.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Starting to expand within this defense?
Speaker 6 (07:41):
Absolutely? You know, and it's hard earned. He's got to
earn the.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
Respect of the coaches, He's got to earn the respect
of his teammates. He is a very talented football player.
And as he continues to go out there and do
what we ask him to do within the scheme and
to make his plays when they come to him, you know,
the confidence in the whole group will continue to grow,
and for himself as well, you know, to know that
he can do it, to know that he can play
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at this level and have success. So I'm excited about
the progression of Trevin and where he's headed.
Speaker 7 (08:09):
We talk about complimentary football a lot, and beyond the
actual structure of that, you know, there are fewer defensive
snaps to play when the offense holds the ball and
they're fresher and all that energy wise, you know, what
what does that do to a team that be able
to play with the lead. As a defense? Can you
be gailable more aggressive in those situations?
Speaker 6 (08:27):
You hit it right on the head, you know.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
The more that we can sustain drives offensively, the more
our defense can reflect on the last drive Physically. Obviously,
there's that component of just being you know, getting your
win back, you know, and your legs and being able
to play the run with power, play the run with extension,
with leverage. To be able to do those things. You know,
we we work off of each other in that regard.
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Defense goes three and out, they give us the ball
right back, and all of the things that we wanted
to make happen in the last drive, we can get
right back to their fresh in our minds. Guys are
still sweaty and wet from the last drive, and so
they can find a rhythm. Cuba can find his rhythm
and press the runs and find those holes as they
open up, you know, so the whole thing fits together.
And of course I can't talk about complimentary football without
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the special teams and the way we covered kicks, the
way that we handled the field position, and you know,
Johnny had a sweet kick inside the five, and try
to make them go to whole field. So it was certainly,
you know, a day of complimentary football.
Speaker 8 (09:26):
We know as a defensive back that you're only as
good as the rush. You can cover all day, but
the rush got to get there. Tell me about Jackson.
I mean, I thought that the secondary played extremely well,
but I just noticed that Jackson kept popping up, showing
up on the.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
Film Mike Jack.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
I've known him for a while now, and the thing
that strikes me about him is consistency. And I think
that you know, he's been in this system, but he
hasn't been fully in the system with these coaches and
the players. And to watch him just weak to week
take valuable steps and just you know, working with the
with the safeties and working with other guys. And for Mike,
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you know, I got to when you talk about guys
in effort, you talk about guys that finish. You know,
k his film, if you look at his film from
last game, he capped off perimeter screens. He made plays
on the ball down the field. You know, he was
just NonStop, just running, you know, and like one of
the things that I just like want to give him
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props about, just like the challenge that Ajaro put on
the defense to rally to the ball, to play finish,
finish on every play, and he certainly was part of
leading that charge.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
On Sunday, coach, will let you go on this one.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
A week ago, everybody outside of the building wanted to
paint a picture of doom and gloom. I'm assuming the
way things work in the media this week, it'll be
the opposite right, the sun is out. But from your standpoint,
you know the old line from the poem. If you
can meet with triumph and disaster and treat those two
imposters just the same, how do you make sure that
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what happened in Las Vegas carries forward.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
It's about the process.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
This is a great opportunity for me as the head
coach to establish culture on our team, but not just
our team, but the whole organization about how we approach
our work. We just go right back to our tell
the truth Monday. We look at the film, we correct issues,
We try to amplify the things we had success with
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to see how we can replicate it and maybe just
change it a little bit, but basically do the same things.
But to capture work Wednesday, recapturing our work ethic turnover Thursday.
Our defense ended up getting a couple away from us
in practice, so it's established his turnover Thursday for a
week to attack the ball, to be aware of it.
Focus Friday, and we put the whole plan together. First second,
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third down, short yardage, goal line, red zone and throw
all that out us in a focused Friday where we're
taking the pads off, but the intentionality and the engagement
has to be at a premium to get our reviews
on Saturday, to finish that Saturday night meeting feeling clear,
confident and trusting the plan so that we can be
a focus group on Sunday.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
Can we just do that?
Speaker 8 (12:20):
I gotta I got a turnover dual for you. Interception
dud I should do all the time, and it helped
me tremendously. And my fingers remembering with the ball is
that in placement and stopping the rotation of the ball.
Speaker 9 (12:33):
So we got to turn over Thursday. I got to
turn it over with jail for you. I'm just saying, coach.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
I'm just saying, I love that.
Speaker 9 (12:39):
I got one for you.
Speaker 7 (12:39):
Now, I got a good Taco Tuesday place. Now Taco
Tuesday Place.
Speaker 9 (12:44):
That's real talk.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Coach.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Congratulations again on the win and looking forward to many
more and obviously we'll catch you up again before u
this Sunday's game against Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Thanks coach, Thank you, coach.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
Thanks a lot guys.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
All right, Dave Canalis and I'm serious Panthers head coach,
And now that was a good We're gonna have to
send you to practice on Thursday, cause that.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Makes your iyes focused on the rotations.
Speaker 9 (13:07):
I'm telling you absolutely.
Speaker 8 (13:08):
I brought the same drill when I went to Green
Bay and they had at that time they have maybe
three or four interceptions that year. In the end of
that season, we had like thirty one interceptions. I'm just
telling you that little drill. It just is a little
simple day drill that if you play, you do it
your fingers to remember where the ball is.
Speaker 7 (13:26):
Well, you only had sixty three interceptions and it worked
out well.
Speaker 9 (13:30):
I got your coat.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Eugene Robinson offering tidbits. We're gonna talk a little bit
about coach Canalis on the other side, because I don't
think he's getting enough credit for the bold decision he
made one week ago today and how it paid off.
That's when we come back. Panther Talk is presented by
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Dalton and an empty set trips to the right. Here's
the snap hocket holds Andy throwing the field demon did
he hang out touchdown?
Speaker 5 (14:13):
It's a tribute to a group of guys working together
to set a standard, to establish a standard of our processes,
of our practices, of the focus and intentionality. It takes
the ability to play together, the ability to play complimentary football,
which is how this whole thing is built in design.
And so this is just a tribute of a bunch
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of a bunch of guys on the staff as well,
who are just grinding, burning the midnight oil to just
find little ways to improve us. Fighting and scratching and competing.
That's all we know how to do. And then and
a and a group of players who are committed to
doing this. So this is a huge celebration for us
of just the process and what it can lead to.
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An A.
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Shrop, Jim Zochie, Eugene Robinson back with you on Panther
Talk presented by Bosh power Tools. A lot of people
over the last week had opinions on the state of
the Carolina Panthers. We heard a lot of things about
the state of things, and then you watch the game
on Sunday and you kind of scratch your head and
you say, yeah, maybe not as dire as some people
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made it out to be. There was criticism across the
board on ownership, coaching staff, all sorts of things for
the decision to make the change at quarterback. Ultimately, I
think you need to give Dave Canalis a lot of credit.
We said it on this show Monday. It was a
bold decision, But let's start from the coaching staff perspective. Perspective, Jim.
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For Dave Canalis, to me, that seemed like a bet
on himself. It was clear to everybody Bryce Young was struggling,
and both of these things can be true. Andy Dalton's
the right guy and the best quarterback on the team
right now, and Bryce still has a long term future.
Both of these things can be true. And to make
that move two games in, and that tells me that
there's a coach who can read the temperament of the
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locker room, a coach who realizes that, hey, a little
spark is needed. Even though it might be early in
the season, it's still only two games in and everyone
else in the division lost on Sunday, So again early,
you're only a game out of first place. For what
it's worth, I just thought that that decision, thinking about
every single person in the locker room, what the franchise
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has to do to move forward, bold, necessary, needed, and
ultimately the right one.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
And to this credit, I think the timing of it
being as early in the season as it was, it
would have been easy from him to be able to
wait a few more weeks and say, look, I was
brought in to help get Bryce right, get him up
to speed. You know, his background working with quarterbacks, which
we don't have to go through all that again, is
the number one thing that was probably stood out as
far as you know, what does he bring to the
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table as being a first time head coach here, And
it's kind of, you know, how do we get this
resource that we invested in heavily the right way? The
fact that he after two weeks pushed the pause button.
It doesn't have to be anything bigger than that. We
don't have to go any bigger than you hit a
pause on Bryce. And whether that's two months or two years,
you hit a pause button. He's twenty three years old.
Nobody's finishing his story out right now. But for this
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time being to your point, doing the right thing for
the team, being able to run the offense that he's
brought in properly and the way it needs to be
done right now, and for Bryce to have something which
he didn't have last year, which was to be to
be Jordan Love, to be Aaron Rodgers, to sit and
watch veteran quarterback play and you learn, I don't care
how good of a program you came out of.
Speaker 9 (17:32):
Everyone came out of.
Speaker 7 (17:33):
You know, they're all college football stars. So I think
you've got to give him some more time to kind
of catch his breath, learn, watch and whatever, and not
worry about when is the next time Bryce is going
to play? And this business can be week to week.
Things happen people, you know, injuries happen, things happen, whatever.
You never know when you're you're gonna be called out
there once again. How many times have we watched Beyond
Carolina Eugene. You know Baker Mayfield's career go up and down,
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up and down in Cleveland. You know that team went
one in thirty one in two years and he led
them to victor and playoff wins. He did that, and
then they traded him or released him whatever they did
to trade forward Deshaun Watson because that wasn't good enough.
And then he comes here, we release him.
Speaker 6 (18:11):
Yeah, maybe now.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
He's playing well for Tampa Bay. Sam Darnold what he's
doing now. You never know what the clock is for
when somebody's turn is going to be.
Speaker 8 (18:18):
And I like he said hit the pause buttoned a
little bit. I like that because also you're thinking about
Bryce Young in this whole equation. You think that Bryce
Young would be like upset and mad, but I think
he might be relieved a little bit because his confidence
is not gonna win. If he goes back out there
and he's throwing interceptions all right, doesn't play what his
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confidence will dip way way down down the tank. So
I think coach is doing a great thing, not only
for the team but for Bryce as well, to get
Bryce to sit down, sit back, get educated, get mentored,
under be an understudy, and then we can see about
moving you back into the mix only if it's warranted.
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I like that, And that's a really bold moved by
coach and I applaud that move.
Speaker 9 (19:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
And Andy Dalton at thirty six in the modern age
is not ancient for a quarterback.
Speaker 9 (19:13):
Nope.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
We have seen quarterbacks play well into their mid and
late thirties. We have seen teams turn to a veteran
quarterback who for all intents and purposes, I think the
league has probably written off is Yeah, he's just a
veteran backup now and then these guys get a chance.
Joe Flacco did it last year with Cleveland. We've seen
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Fitzmagic play out. We've seen Ryan Tannehill do it. There
have been a number of instances where this has played
out over the years, and these guys didn't forget how
to play overnight. Andy Dalton went to five straight playoffs
with the Bengals. He was a three time Pro bowler.
He made throws and the one part of this equation
I was watching a lot of the All twenty two.
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The Panthers Eugene have a really good offensive line. It's
not above average, this could legitimately be a top five
offensive line in the NFL. And Dalton had clean pockets
as they were getting the push on running plays. We
talked about it on the air. Schuba Hubbard looked like
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he was getting field before anybody touched him, when last
year it felt like he had to avoid contact or
break a tackle in the backfield just to pick up
a yard.
Speaker 8 (20:29):
Absolutely, I tell you what, Let's go back to Andy Dalton.
That deep over he threw the dj beautiful, but the
dime he threw the feeling.
Speaker 9 (20:38):
With two people. There was a guy underneath and a
guy the safety coming over.
Speaker 8 (20:42):
The top, and he was able to thread the ball
in that little window and throw a man open. I said, Wow,
that's one of the best throws I've seen this year
bar Nunn, by any quarterback.
Speaker 9 (20:54):
Bar Nunn. His timing was impeccable.
Speaker 8 (20:57):
And hopefully I hope that Bryce was sitting down and
going like, oh, I need to release the ball. Now,
that's what I need to go and do. I gotta
lead him. I gotta throw that man open. I gotta
do that. Oh in the back of the end zone,
that deep over because if their play zone, the corner's
gonna slough off. But it's man, I got a one
on one situation.
Speaker 9 (21:13):
Throw them open.
Speaker 8 (21:14):
I hope he's sitting there going The bells is just
going off, and he's he's going, oh, I see what
I need to do.
Speaker 9 (21:19):
I see what I need to do. Don't be that
master and be that tutor.
Speaker 7 (21:24):
And Andy' said obviously a couple hundred starts, So I
mean that comes with experience in those reps. Wow, and uh,
I think for Bryce he just wasn't seeing all that.
And you also have to prove that you have the
NFL ability. We know he's a great college player, but
at some point I kind of said, it's before Uh,
you know, those successes will come once you have successes,
because that's ultimately the confidence isn't going to be here's
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when you beat Vanderbilt.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
It's gonna be you do it.
Speaker 7 (21:47):
You did it in the league and you showed and
now you know you've done it because you've done it.
And that's where I think Andy Dalton is.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yeah, And for Bryce, listen, now, I think the ball's
in his court and he's gonna have to overcome the benching.
He's going to have to overcome the adversity. He now
has the pen in his hand and he'll write the
future of his career whatever that may be. But that's
up to him. Right now, Andy Dalton gives this team
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the best chance to win. He's got a revenge game
Sunday against his old team, the Cincinnati Bengals, who when
they drafted Joe Burrow, said bye bye to Dalton. He
became a vagabond for a few years, and now he's
the starter again for Carolina. That game will have some juice.
We'll be watching the Bengals tonight against the Commanders. All right,
this is what we have coming up here on Panther Talk.
Jim's conversation with Panther Legend to John Beeson, Jim alluded
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to this just a moment ago, quarterbacks and their second acts.
Tom Logan, Bill and I spoke about this on our
podcast earlier today, how we're seeing a trend in the
NFL fields, Gino Smith, Baker, Mayfield, Sam Darnold, guys with
these second.
Speaker 9 (22:50):
Chances, Surgent making the most of it.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
All that ahead here on Panther Talk on the Carolina
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Spraders bring a twist screen pass right side, Shuba gets
the block, has.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
The pot Damn tracks into the end zone. Brought Carolina touchdown.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Every time we go out there, we're trying to win.
And for me, when I haven't been able to be
out there, you know, it's hard because you're not affecting
the game. And so for me, I got to go
out there and just have fun. And I felt like
the way we started this game, our mindset coming into
it was exactly what we needed to have, and we
started fast and we never took the foot off the gas.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Back to a Niche Shroff, Eugene Robinson, and Jim Zoki
with Panther Talk on the Carolina Panthers Radio Network.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
When you talk about some of the great linebackers in
Panthers history, John Beeson is on that list from a
Miami Hurricane, just like the current GM Dan Morgan. He
was a first round draft pick in two thousand and
seven and played with Carolina till twenty thirteen, three times.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
A pro player.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
In fact, he played every single game the first four
years he was a Panther. In fact, never even missed
a practice before injury set in. This week, we visit
with former Panther linebacker great John.
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Speaker 7 (24:23):
You come out of the up talk about that in
Miami a little bit there, Your guy Dan Morgan out
of there as well, a general manager of this team.
Did you see that kind of future for him back
in the day when he was coming through the program.
I mean it kind of proceded a little.
Speaker 10 (24:38):
Bit, but yeah, you know what, I always say this
about Dan. I mean, he's the most decorated player to
come out of University Miami, A massive mentor. I wanted
to come here and play with him. Obviously when he
got injured my rookie year, I came out first, got
to bring a jersey out in honor of him, because
it's it's really about the guys who won look after
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you and then you hit Ford and Dan has the
same kind of scenario, like you play so hard that
the body can't play to the level of that you're
you're demanding of it. So I know he got into
to being a pro Scott.
Speaker 11 (25:15):
I was like, yeah, Dan wants to do that.
Speaker 9 (25:17):
Like he's just a chill guy.
Speaker 10 (25:18):
You know, Ashley's at home three kids, like you know,
made good money, So like.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
What's he doing?
Speaker 10 (25:24):
And then all of a sudden and I'm like, okay,
assistant GM, but being up there and Buffalo okay. And
then he comes back to Charlotte and I said I
told him this when he got the job. I said,
whatever you need from me because people they want me
to coach or I.
Speaker 11 (25:37):
Would work for Dan. There's another guy I play with.
Speaker 10 (25:41):
He's uh, Glenn Cook, assistant GM up in up in Cleveland,
has interview interview several times for the GM job, and
I said, I'll work for you, but I'm not working
for everybody else. So they need a guy in the
trenches who knows what hard work is to evaluate true one,
it's really about developing a passion.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
That's what's missing with the game.
Speaker 10 (26:04):
Is finding guys who care so much about winning that
they'll make the necessary sacrifice that'll end up with a
W on Sundays.
Speaker 7 (26:13):
You think that culture is going to change now with
college football obviously with the transfer portal and all that.
Then they come to the pros. It's not gotten quite
to that point. But players don't stick around in general
in one organization like they used to back in your day.
Speaker 10 (26:25):
Yeah, so when I got traded for when I got
traded to the Giants, Giants hadn't traded for players also
from University of Miami, Oj Anderson, the juice Man.
Speaker 11 (26:36):
Nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Long gap there, Yeah.
Speaker 10 (26:40):
Long gap twenty thirteen. So it didn't happen. And what
happens is you have to be somewhat of.
Speaker 11 (26:45):
A cap captures. I had already got restructure, which means
pay cut. I was injured. They took money from me.
Speaker 10 (26:49):
So now my value still here if he's healthy. But
what I'm making is league minimum from being the highest
paid in history and then or restructure to league minimum.
So that has changed, shorter contracts, and now the world
of trading is is that so now it's truly an
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individual business. Whereas you know the reason why Thomas Davis
gets on me right now, You're not coming back and
retiring a Panther, I said, listen, Thomas. I said, the
Giants traded for me. They gave me the highest free
agency deal. It was a three year deal to be
the guy. After that season, I said, it's out of respect.
I'm not going to retire a Giant and I'm not
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going to retire a Panther. But my home, my heart
is with the Panthers.
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Speaker 3 (27:57):
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Speaker 2 (27:57):
If you have the Sanders Richard a goal line and
is in for a Carolina touchdown, you.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
Know, really it was the whole group. It was just
about playing complimentary football when you can convert some of
your third downs. You know, we were forty six percent
on the day, which is not a stellar day on
third down, but it's good because we continue drives. We
had some earned first on first and second down to
be able to continue to play football. When you can
give the defense a chance to take a breath, they
come out and they play their run stout. They run
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like crazy, and we're not putting them out there as much,
you know, And there are days that happened that way,
you know. But when you can play complimentary football, then
you're just making the whole team stronger as you finish
the game.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
And that's what really felt like today Weekend Warriors with
a niche Uff and Tom Louganville.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
I thought it would.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Start here after watching Andy Dalton play on Sunday and
Dalton's become now part of a larger storyline in the NFL.
And I'm gonna go into your wheelhouse. You're a big
superhero guy, right yeah, all right? So when that whole
Marvel cinema at Universe launched, do you remember the first
movie in that series.
Speaker 11 (29:05):
I believe it was Bolt or iron Man.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
It was iron Man. I had to look it up.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Okay, do you remember where Robert Downey Junior's career was
pre Iron Man?
Speaker 12 (29:16):
Oh?
Speaker 10 (29:17):
Do I?
Speaker 11 (29:19):
It was in prison.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
I was thinking of.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Iron Man because I thought in Hollywood, especially recently, I
don't think anybody's had a better second act than Robert
Downey Jr.
Speaker 11 (29:31):
No doubt.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
And it started with that role and people were going,
really him, You're you're casting him?
Speaker 9 (29:38):
And then you know that blew up.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
The franchise blew up, and then he's doing all these
great movies and now he's as big a movie star
as anybody, and he was able to resuscitate his career. Well,
look around the NFL. Justin Fields has Pittsburgh at three,
and oh Chicago dumped them. Sam Darnold as the Vikings.
This is going to sound looking like maybe a Super
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Bowl contender. We saw what Geno Smith has done Baker Mayfield, right,
Andy Dalton for the Panthers on Sunday. I'm wondering, is
there a why behind all these guys having their Robert
Downey Junior moment so to speak?
Speaker 12 (30:20):
Yeah, I think there's probably quite a few. I think
in some instances it's being thrown to the wolves, forced
to play right away. You're a high draft choice, which
likely met you went to a roster that didn't have
a lot of the components around you that would help
to enable you to play your best early.
Speaker 11 (30:39):
I think that's that's one. I think also number two.
So many stars have to align a niche like you
need the.
Speaker 12 (30:48):
Right component here, the right component there, the right staff,
the right scheme, the right approach, all of these different
components that really don't have anything to do with just
you as the individual. To a quarterback, I think the
younger the quarterback, those components have to be right, or
they've got to be in place, or there's got to
be some building blocks for them to be in place.
Speaker 11 (31:11):
And then what happens.
Speaker 12 (31:12):
It's kind of like the freshman in college that was
the highly italied high school recruit and he's expected to
come in and light the world on fire, and when
in reality that's not how it generally works.
Speaker 11 (31:27):
Those guys are rarities, and so I always.
Speaker 12 (31:29):
Go back too, and I look to guys like, well,
Aaron Rodgers is probably the greatest example. And then now
Jordan Love another great example, where you go to an
organization as a late first round draft choice. You're not
forced to play right away. You do have good players
around you. You've afforded the ability to develop and grow
and immature and learn and watch, and then you get
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your moment and all of the pieces of the puzzle
are already in play and around you. And so with
guys like Justin Fields, and I think he's a great example.
Sometimes a change of scenery, sometimes having better players around
you at some parts, the organizational structure of long term success,
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which Pittsburgh has. All of these different things. I think
all of them are common denominators. And just maybe landing
in that right spot, somebody believes in you, They're going
to invest in you, and they're gonna spend some time
to try.
Speaker 11 (32:32):
And put you in the best position as possible. I
think it's very very real.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
You're going to see teams now change the way they
approach that quarterback position, even with first round draft picks,
because as tempting as it is to throw the guy
in there right away and say, hey, while he's on
his rookie deal and not making a lot of money,
this is a window. If it's not for the long
term benefit of the quarterback, you may rethink it look
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at Detroit. Jared off is a great example. Right, went
to a Super Bowl with the Rams, and then you know,
lost a few pieces and the offensive line wasn't as
good and things started going south. They gave up bottom.
All let's go get the veteran Matthew Stafford. He goes
to Detroit. He's now the quarterback for Alliance team that
a lot of people think can go win the NFC.
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When you're scouting and you're looking for those raw elements
and you're looking for those traits, and you're saying, hey,
if he maxes out, this is what he can be.
Sometimes you got to go through your lumps to get there.
Sometimes it takes a little bit of trial and error,
trial by fire before you can reach eighty ninety percent
of your potential. It just maybe makes you rethink that
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what we saw in him, yeah, it is still there,
but sometimes it takes a little longer to unlock it.
Speaker 12 (33:48):
Yeah, And I think the ones that do end up
panning out after it's taken a little while, they all
have a few things in common. Number One, they are
tireless workers. They have intellect. Nothing in their life is.
Speaker 11 (34:03):
More important than football. So they're willing to commit to it.
Speaker 12 (34:06):
So if a guy is having some struggles or things
aren't going his way, when you made the initial evaluation,
you went through the evaluation process, you really are focusing
on checking those boxes of mental toughness, competitive temperament, work
ethic because when things aren't going well, your athleticism and
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physical attributes aren't going to be what saves you. It's
going to be those things. So for every JaMarcus Russell
who has all of those physical attributes but didn't know
how to be a pro, it was never going to
happen for him because of those other intangible traits. And
I think, you know, I think Alex Smith Anisi is
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another great example, although he didn't have to change teams
to do it, but the scenery change and the perspective
change of Jim Harbaugh coming into San Francisco turned him
into a completely different player. But it took three or
four years and people were ready to write him off.
And then what ends up happening is you play a
guy in Colin Kaepernick, and now you become a high
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profile trade free agent and end up in a good
situation in Kansas City.
Speaker 11 (35:13):
But it didn't happen overnight.
Speaker 12 (35:15):
But the work ethic, competitive temperament, and mental toughness. If
you don't have those three things to weather the storm,
then you're just not gonna pan out.
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Speaker 2 (35:38):
We return here on Panthers Talk and we're gonna be
watching our next opponent tonight. Two Monday night football games
Buffalo Jacksonville and then the Bengals, who are zero to
two taking on the Washington Commanders. I look at the
game that we have coming up on Sunday and we'll
learn more about Cincinnati tonight. They've generally been a team
the last few years. Even when they've been good, they
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get off to a slow start, but a couple of
things jump out. One through their first two games Eugene,
they have not been able to stop the run. And
remember in the offseason they got rid of DJ Reider.
You pay Joe Burrow, you have to cut somewhere, and
they didn't bring back DJ Reiders. Sheldon Rankins, who they
got has been banged up, and then they have not
been able to run the football Joe Mixon is running
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wild for the Texans.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
We saw what he did week one.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
They brought in Zach Moss and not really much of
a running game inability to stop the run. T Higgins
is expected to play tonight, but he missed the first
two games with a hammy. Jamar Chase didn't take part
in training camp. Joe Burrow coming off wrist surgery. Yeah,
this is a team that a lot of us thought
would be a Super Bowl contender, would be an opponent
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that's really tough to beat. If Tonight's gonna be telling
because they turn a corner. They turn a corner. But
something seems off with this team so far.
Speaker 8 (36:56):
Don't forget you gotta also look at their last game
against the Kansasity Chiefs him down to one play they did.
It came out to one play if the safety just
makes a punch at the ball as opposed to trying
to interce up the ball and no DPI games over there.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
If Jamar Chase doesn't lose his cool.
Speaker 8 (37:11):
Absolutely so. I mean I think that they are really
bonifi team. But you did as you elucidate it. The
problems running the rock seventy two yards only rushing and
averaging and also one hundred and fifty nine giving up.
Speaker 9 (37:24):
That means you can run the ball.
Speaker 8 (37:26):
And the way that we're running the rock right now
with Cuba, Tuba's on He's on a mission.
Speaker 9 (37:30):
Dude.
Speaker 8 (37:31):
That dude is running that ball hard, and I'm like, dude,
I don't want to tackle that dude. That dude is
running like Derrick Henry hard, like get out of my way.
I'm trying to go ahead and eat and I'm going
to make a name for myself because i am the
starting running back on the Carolina Panthers. That's what he
seems to me. Every time he tested the ball, He's
trying to go ahead and hurt somebody, and I like that.
So he has a great opponent coming up in the Bengals,
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where you can go ahead and exercise some of that.
Speaker 9 (37:55):
But do you want to get get rid of.
Speaker 7 (37:56):
Cuba has always played hard, hard, and he came in
as a track guy but kind of lighter. But now
he's put on more weight each year on his frame
and become a better football player each year as well.
But the problem with having guys in their contract years,
other in their contract year, but then you get you're
gonna get the best version of all these guys in
their contract year or two, whether and again, whether that's
for here or for somebody else, but I mean, you're
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going to get their best version. I'm not saying that's
what's inspiring him, because I think he's been doing that
all along. But I would say somebody like Deontay Johnson,
who wasn't used as much over the past year or two,
he's going to make the most of his opportunities. And
we'll see moving into this week with Adam Thielen status
is with that hamstring injury, but he's going to be
the featured guy because of the health right now and
because he's a starting receiver and he has a.
Speaker 8 (38:36):
Threat to go ahead and break it every single time
when he catches the ball. It looks like I'm like,
my goodness. It kind of reminds me a little bit
Steve Smiff, like this dude's about to do something with
the rock, and so I like having that threat.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
He had fourteen targets on Sunday, eight catches. In the
previous two games twelve targets, five receptions.
Speaker 8 (38:56):
I know he's probably the happiest that Dalton's the quarterback
because Dalton definitely looks targeted him and it was warranted.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
It's gonna become a big story towards the back end
of the week. Dalton facing his old team, and he's
faced them already playing for other teams. When you played
your old team.
Speaker 9 (39:13):
Wanted to be a crap out of them. I wanted
to beat him like they stole money. How do you
really feel, man, like they stole money. I was thinking
about that game.
Speaker 8 (39:21):
I marked it on the calendar, and I was like, coy,
don't say a word, don't say a word, don't say work.
When I went against the Seattle Seahawks had an interception
that had like maybe eight tackles. Mean, I was like
everywhere trying to bust a man in the mouth legally
because you know, it's like I want them to know that, hey.
Speaker 9 (39:37):
This is what you miss.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
But when the microphones in your face, you say no,
you say all good, nameless, faceless opponent.
Speaker 7 (39:42):
One game at a time, one game at a time,
that's what you do, unless you're unless you're Steve Smith
in Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
I I thump, he's never been one to mince work.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
You're saying it's real, No, it's real.
Speaker 8 (39:56):
Dalton wanted to go ahead and beat him like they
stole money. He ain't gonna say that, but that's how
I'm thinking.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Well, they kind of did. They let him go, and
they made room for Joe Burrow. But Andy showed you
on Sunday, Huh, what do you do?
Speaker 3 (40:08):
He still got it.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
I hit the button on my chair and I sank.
I turned into a seven year old. I just sack
underneath the table. That might be a That might be
a good way to exit and take the life raft.
We'll see on Panther Talk next week.
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Carolina, That's why you put in the work, you know,
that's why you do this. You're playing games like this
and when you put a team game together, this wasn't one.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Side of the ball.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
This was everybody, and so we put a whole team
game together. And it's just fun to come back in here,
celebrate with everybody and just enjoy the work that we
put in.
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Speaker 2 (01:00):
It is the first victory Monday of the season. It's
Andy Dalton's first win as the starting quarterback for the
Carolina Panthers. It's Dave Canalis's first win as a NFL
head coach and as the Panthers head coach Carolina with
a dominating effort over the weekend in Las Vegas thirty
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six to twenty two. Panthers in the win column, they
knock off the Raiders. Let's get to it. Let's bring
in the head coach of the Carolina Panthers, Dave Canalis. Dave,
First off, congratulations, I'm getting that first win. Luke Kickley
and I before the game, we're talking about how, hey,
if the Panthers get the ball first, boy, something feels
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right about that. It's an opportunity play from ahead. What
did that opening drive do to set the tone for you, guys.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Well, first of all, it was my It was my
very first opening drive touchdown as a play caller, so
dating back to last year. Not that I've been calling
place for years, but it's got close last year a
few times, so that part of it kind of didn't
hit me until Juba actually broke the plane and then.
Speaker 6 (02:12):
A bunch of congratulations on the headsets.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
But you know, for me, it's just about the celebration
and payoff of a lot of hard work, a lot
of guys buying into the process of the week, the
amount of work. It takes to capture work Wednesday to
come back on a turnover Thursday, because our defense got
a couple away from us, so it stays turnover Thursday
for a full week, and then our focused Friday to
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stack them all together, get a review done on Saturday,
and then celebrate on Sunday. And the celebration. I really,
whether you win or you lose, that's the player's day.
Sunday is about those guys being able to enjoy the
hard work and then just put that work in on
the field and to to see it all come to life.
But you know, to have it happened for our offense,
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I was just I was really proud of the group.
I was a proud of the mix of the different
things that happened within the drive that was indicative of
the kind of football that we're hoping we can play consistently.
So so excited for our guys and and for our group.
Speaker 7 (03:12):
Dave, I've talked through the years a number of college
or pro coordinators or head coaches about, you know, opening
scripts to plays and obviously nothing that were set in
stone because downs and distance and circumstances happen. What's kind
of your general philosophy on I'm putting together opening script
as far as like in general, your number of plays,
ideas and stuff like that, when you formulate that each.
Speaker 6 (03:29):
Week, Yeah, I don't mind telling you.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Just you know, I have a thought for the drive starters,
and I like to balance it out with different types
of things runs, passes, different types of passes, you know,
and so just to keep to try to maintain that balance.
I don't have to overthink that part of it throughout
the flow of the game. And then from there it's
just a sequencing in the run pass marriage. It's something
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that Brad takes a lot of time in and pride with.
He sits with Pat McPherson, our tight ends coach, and
they kind of call it marriage counseling, and it's like,
you know, if we run these runs, do we have
actions that look like it? If we're going to throw
this play action, is there a run that looks like
it where we can gather information throughout the day and
then and then you know, the heart and soul of
that part is probably somewhere between you know, twenty and
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twenty five plays talking about first and second downs.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
Specifically of plays that we love.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
These are our favorite runs for this day, These are
our favorite actions. And sometimes it's like, you know, we're
hoping for this coverage on this pass play, but bottom
line is, this is a cool play. I can't wait
to call it and make sure it comes to life
somewhere and.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
The sequence of what we're doing.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
So it's a combination of those things that gives the
guys kind of a little bit of thought for like
a key to victory is like we hope to hit
them with these types of runs, these types of actions
and passes.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
As we get into the rhythm and flow of the.
Speaker 8 (04:45):
Game and coach the I want to go to a
couple of touchdowns, one to deep over to DJ and
to the one down the seam to Adam Thielen. There's
always an education process that takes place. Excellent throws, read
the coverage, fitting the ball, putting it in there when
you need to put it in there. What do you
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think Bryce is learning and what do you tell him
about those plays to help him become better at that
same mentality that we saw that that Dalton had.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
It's just really the whole group educating the guys on
our system and the opportunities that we find within it.
To try to, you know, pinpoint coverages at certain times,
to try to you know, get in the rhythm of
the flow of the drive, to be able to feel
out when's the best time for the protection, for the
concepts and all those things. So it's really just the
whole guy's just gaining confidence in our system, in our
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processes and how we employ things.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Coach, when you put on the film after the game,
what did it say about the physicality of this Panther
football team?
Speaker 6 (05:56):
That's Panthers football.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
That is my hope and dream a niche is that
we're in enough games where we have a lead at
the end.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
We've had a good balanced day.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
We've been we've been efficient, we've run the ball efficiently,
We've had some completions and kept drives going, and you
finish the ball with a lead, running it and making
the defense have to try to stop the mentality and
attitude of finish, which is our calling card.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
It's what we want to be about.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
We want to be in those finish positions, whether it's
in four minute grinding it out or in two minutes.
With our system and the trust and the work that's
been put in to be able to execute with all
the stakes being on there is like just to love
those moments, those critical moments of end up game situations.
And I just love the way that we were able
to just be physical, you know, huge, huge screen.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
Robert Hunt launches a guy.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
You know, we have another run where where Ikey gets
a guy on one leg and just like sends him
almost out of bounds, you know, five or six yards
cuba miles. The tight ends in there were exhaust guys
are starting. You can see their body language and demeanor.
It's like who's gonna quit first, you know, And to
just be able to continue to have that stubborn mentality
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about running the football, about the physicality of the sport,
which is like all the cue plays and everything and
it comes down to you against me for.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
All the marbles. Who wants it more?
Speaker 7 (07:21):
So?
Speaker 6 (07:22):
I just love the way we were able to finish.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, and that showed the other guy that we saw
a little more of this week was on the defensive side,
Trevin Wallace. And I'm just curious as to it seemed
you guys used him on the edge a little bit.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Is his role.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Starting to expand within this defense?
Speaker 6 (07:41):
Absolutely? You know, and it's hard earned. He's got to
earn the.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
Respect of the coaches, He's got to earn the respect
of his teammates. He is a very talented football player.
And as he continues to go out there and do
what we ask him to do within the scheme and
to make his plays when they come to him, you know,
the confidence in the whole group will continue to grow,
and for himself as well, you know, to know that
he can do it, to know that he can play
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at this level and have success. So I'm excited about
the progression of Trevin and where he's headed.
Speaker 7 (08:09):
We talk about complimentary football a lot, and beyond the
actual structure of that, you know, there are fewer defensive
snaps to play when the offense holds the ball and
they're fresher and all that energy wise, you know, what
what does that do to a team that be able
to play with the lead. As a defense? Can you
be gailable more aggressive in those situations?
Speaker 6 (08:27):
You hit it right on the head, you know.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
The more that we can sustain drives offensively, the more
our defense can reflect on the last drive Physically. Obviously,
there's that component of just being you know, getting your
win back, you know, and your legs and being able
to play the run with power, play the run with extension,
with leverage. To be able to do those things. You know,
we we work off of each other in that regard.
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Defense goes three and out, they give us the ball
right back, and all of the things that we wanted
to make happen in the last drive, we can get
right back to their fresh in our minds. Guys are
still sweaty and wet from the last drive, and so
they can find a rhythm. Cuba can find his rhythm
and press the runs and find those holes as they
open up, you know, so the whole thing fits together.
And of course I can't talk about complimentary football without
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the special teams and the way we covered kicks, the
way that we handled the field position, and you know,
Johnny had a sweet kick inside the five, and try
to make them go to whole field. So it was certainly,
you know, a day of complimentary football.
Speaker 8 (09:26):
We know as a defensive back that you're only as
good as the rush. You can cover all day, but
the rush got to get there. Tell me about Jackson.
I mean, I thought that the secondary played extremely well,
but I just noticed that Jackson kept popping up, showing
up on the.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
Film Mike Jack.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
I've known him for a while now, and the thing
that strikes me about him is consistency. And I think
that you know, he's been in this system, but he
hasn't been fully in the system with these coaches and
the players. And to watch him just weak to week
take valuable steps and just you know, working with the
with the safeties and working with other guys. And for Mike,
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you know, I got to when you talk about guys
in effort, you talk about guys that finish. You know,
k his film, if you look at his film from
last game, he capped off perimeter screens. He made plays
on the ball down the field. You know, he was
just NonStop, just running, you know, and like one of
the things that I just like want to give him
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props about, just like the challenge that Ajaro put on
the defense to rally to the ball, to play finish,
finish on every play, and he certainly was part of
leading that charge.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
On Sunday, coach, will let you go on this one.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
A week ago, everybody outside of the building wanted to
paint a picture of doom and gloom. I'm assuming the
way things work in the media this week, it'll be
the opposite right, the sun is out. But from your standpoint,
you know the old line from the poem. If you
can meet with triumph and disaster and treat those two
imposters just the same, how do you make sure that
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what happened in Las Vegas carries forward.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
It's about the process.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
This is a great opportunity for me as the head
coach to establish culture on our team, but not just
our team, but the whole organization about how we approach
our work. We just go right back to our tell
the truth Monday. We look at the film, we correct issues,
We try to amplify the things we had success with
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to see how we can replicate it and maybe just
change it a little bit, but basically do the same things.
But to capture work Wednesday, recapturing our work ethic turnover Thursday.
Our defense ended up getting a couple away from us
in practice, so it's established his turnover Thursday for a
week to attack the ball, to be aware of it.
Focus Friday, and we put the whole plan together. First second,
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third down, short yardage, goal line, red zone and throw
all that out us in a focused Friday where we're
taking the pads off, but the intentionality and the engagement
has to be at a premium to get our reviews
on Saturday, to finish that Saturday night meeting feeling clear,
confident and trusting the plan so that we can be
a focus group on Sunday.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
Can we just do that?
Speaker 8 (12:20):
I gotta I got a turnover dual for you. Interception
dud I should do all the time, and it helped
me tremendously. And my fingers remembering with the ball is
that in placement and stopping the rotation of the ball.
Speaker 9 (12:33):
So we got to turn over Thursday. I got to
turn it over with jail for you. I'm just saying, coach.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
I'm just saying, I love that.
Speaker 9 (12:39):
I got one for you.
Speaker 7 (12:39):
Now, I got a good Taco Tuesday place. Now Taco
Tuesday Place.
Speaker 9 (12:44):
That's real talk.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Coach.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Congratulations again on the win and looking forward to many
more and obviously we'll catch you up again before u
this Sunday's game against Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Thanks coach, Thank you, coach.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
Thanks a lot guys.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
All right, Dave Canalis and I'm serious Panthers head coach,
And now that was a good We're gonna have to
send you to practice on Thursday, cause that.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Makes your iyes focused on the rotations.
Speaker 9 (13:07):
I'm telling you absolutely.
Speaker 8 (13:08):
I brought the same drill when I went to Green
Bay and they had at that time they have maybe
three or four interceptions that year. In the end of
that season, we had like thirty one interceptions. I'm just
telling you that little drill. It just is a little
simple day drill that if you play, you do it
your fingers to remember where the ball is.
Speaker 7 (13:26):
Well, you only had sixty three interceptions and it worked
out well.
Speaker 9 (13:30):
I got your coat.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Eugene Robinson offering tidbits. We're gonna talk a little bit
about coach Canalis on the other side, because I don't
think he's getting enough credit for the bold decision he
made one week ago today and how it paid off.
That's when we come back. Panther Talk is presented by
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Speaker 2 (14:02):
Dalton and an empty set trips to the right. Here's
the snap hocket holds Andy throwing the field demon did
he hang out touchdown?
Speaker 5 (14:13):
It's a tribute to a group of guys working together
to set a standard, to establish a standard of our processes,
of our practices, of the focus and intentionality. It takes
the ability to play together, the ability to play complimentary football,
which is how this whole thing is built in design.
And so this is just a tribute of a bunch
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of a bunch of guys on the staff as well,
who are just grinding, burning the midnight oil to just
find little ways to improve us. Fighting and scratching and competing.
That's all we know how to do. And then and
a and a group of players who are committed to
doing this. So this is a huge celebration for us
of just the process and what it can lead to.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
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An A.
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Shrop, Jim Zochie, Eugene Robinson back with you on Panther
Talk presented by Bosh power Tools. A lot of people
over the last week had opinions on the state of
the Carolina Panthers. We heard a lot of things about
the state of things, and then you watch the game
on Sunday and you kind of scratch your head and
you say, yeah, maybe not as dire as some people
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made it out to be. There was criticism across the
board on ownership, coaching staff, all sorts of things for
the decision to make the change at quarterback. Ultimately, I
think you need to give Dave Canalis a lot of credit.
We said it on this show Monday. It was a
bold decision, But let's start from the coaching staff perspective. Perspective, Jim.
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For Dave Canalis, to me, that seemed like a bet
on himself. It was clear to everybody Bryce Young was struggling,
and both of these things can be true. Andy Dalton's
the right guy and the best quarterback on the team
right now, and Bryce still has a long term future.
Both of these things can be true. And to make
that move two games in, and that tells me that
there's a coach who can read the temperament of the
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locker room, a coach who realizes that, hey, a little
spark is needed. Even though it might be early in
the season, it's still only two games in and everyone
else in the division lost on Sunday, So again early,
you're only a game out of first place. For what
it's worth, I just thought that that decision, thinking about
every single person in the locker room, what the franchise
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has to do to move forward, bold, necessary, needed, and
ultimately the right one.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
And to this credit, I think the timing of it
being as early in the season as it was, it
would have been easy from him to be able to
wait a few more weeks and say, look, I was
brought in to help get Bryce right, get him up
to speed. You know, his background working with quarterbacks, which
we don't have to go through all that again, is
the number one thing that was probably stood out as
far as you know, what does he bring to the
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table as being a first time head coach here, And
it's kind of, you know, how do we get this
resource that we invested in heavily the right way? The
fact that he after two weeks pushed the pause button.
It doesn't have to be anything bigger than that. We
don't have to go any bigger than you hit a
pause on Bryce. And whether that's two months or two years,
you hit a pause button. He's twenty three years old.
Nobody's finishing his story out right now. But for this
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time being to your point, doing the right thing for
the team, being able to run the offense that he's
brought in properly and the way it needs to be
done right now, and for Bryce to have something which
he didn't have last year, which was to be to
be Jordan Love, to be Aaron Rodgers, to sit and
watch veteran quarterback play and you learn, I don't care
how good of a program you came out of.
Speaker 9 (17:32):
Everyone came out of.
Speaker 7 (17:33):
You know, they're all college football stars. So I think
you've got to give him some more time to kind
of catch his breath, learn, watch and whatever, and not
worry about when is the next time Bryce is going
to play? And this business can be week to week.
Things happen people, you know, injuries happen, things happen, whatever.
You never know when you're you're gonna be called out
there once again. How many times have we watched Beyond
Carolina Eugene. You know Baker Mayfield's career go up and down,
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up and down in Cleveland. You know that team went
one in thirty one in two years and he led
them to victor and playoff wins. He did that, and
then they traded him or released him whatever they did
to trade forward Deshaun Watson because that wasn't good enough.
And then he comes here, we release him.
Speaker 6 (18:11):
Yeah, maybe now.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
He's playing well for Tampa Bay. Sam Darnold what he's
doing now. You never know what the clock is for
when somebody's turn is going to be.
Speaker 8 (18:18):
And I like he said hit the pause buttoned a
little bit. I like that because also you're thinking about
Bryce Young in this whole equation. You think that Bryce
Young would be like upset and mad, but I think
he might be relieved a little bit because his confidence
is not gonna win. If he goes back out there
and he's throwing interceptions all right, doesn't play what his
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confidence will dip way way down down the tank. So
I think coach is doing a great thing, not only
for the team but for Bryce as well, to get
Bryce to sit down, sit back, get educated, get mentored,
under be an understudy, and then we can see about
moving you back into the mix only if it's warranted.
(19:00):
I like that, And that's a really bold moved by
coach and I applaud that move.
Speaker 9 (19:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
And Andy Dalton at thirty six in the modern age
is not ancient for a quarterback.
Speaker 9 (19:13):
Nope.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
We have seen quarterbacks play well into their mid and
late thirties. We have seen teams turn to a veteran
quarterback who for all intents and purposes, I think the
league has probably written off is Yeah, he's just a
veteran backup now and then these guys get a chance.
Joe Flacco did it last year with Cleveland. We've seen
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Fitzmagic play out. We've seen Ryan Tannehill do it. There
have been a number of instances where this has played
out over the years, and these guys didn't forget how
to play overnight. Andy Dalton went to five straight playoffs
with the Bengals. He was a three time Pro bowler.
He made throws and the one part of this equation
I was watching a lot of the All twenty two.
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The Panthers Eugene have a really good offensive line. It's
not above average, this could legitimately be a top five
offensive line in the NFL. And Dalton had clean pockets
as they were getting the push on running plays. We
talked about it on the air. Schuba Hubbard looked like
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he was getting field before anybody touched him, when last
year it felt like he had to avoid contact or
break a tackle in the backfield just to pick up
a yard.
Speaker 8 (20:29):
Absolutely, I tell you what, Let's go back to Andy Dalton.
That deep over he threw the dj beautiful, but the
dime he threw the feeling.
Speaker 9 (20:38):
With two people. There was a guy underneath and a
guy the safety coming over.
Speaker 8 (20:42):
The top, and he was able to thread the ball
in that little window and throw a man open. I said, Wow,
that's one of the best throws I've seen this year
bar Nunn, by any quarterback.
Speaker 9 (20:54):
Bar Nunn. His timing was impeccable.
Speaker 8 (20:57):
And hopefully I hope that Bryce was sitting down and
going like, oh, I need to release the ball. Now,
that's what I need to go and do. I gotta
lead him. I gotta throw that man open. I gotta
do that. Oh in the back of the end zone,
that deep over because if their play zone, the corner's
gonna slough off. But it's man, I got a one
on one situation.
Speaker 9 (21:13):
Throw them open.
Speaker 8 (21:14):
I hope he's sitting there going The bells is just
going off, and he's he's going, oh, I see what
I need to do.
Speaker 9 (21:19):
I see what I need to do. Don't be that
master and be that tutor.
Speaker 7 (21:24):
And Andy' said obviously a couple hundred starts, So I
mean that comes with experience in those reps. Wow, and uh,
I think for Bryce he just wasn't seeing all that.
And you also have to prove that you have the
NFL ability. We know he's a great college player, but
at some point I kind of said, it's before Uh,
you know, those successes will come once you have successes,
because that's ultimately the confidence isn't going to be here's
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when you beat Vanderbilt.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
It's gonna be you do it.
Speaker 7 (21:47):
You did it in the league and you showed and
now you know you've done it because you've done it.
And that's where I think Andy Dalton is.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yeah, And for Bryce, listen, now, I think the ball's
in his court and he's gonna have to overcome the benching.
He's going to have to overcome the adversity. He now
has the pen in his hand and he'll write the
future of his career whatever that may be. But that's
up to him. Right now, Andy Dalton gives this team
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the best chance to win. He's got a revenge game
Sunday against his old team, the Cincinnati Bengals, who when
they drafted Joe Burrow, said bye bye to Dalton. He
became a vagabond for a few years, and now he's
the starter again for Carolina. That game will have some juice.
We'll be watching the Bengals tonight against the Commanders. All right,
this is what we have coming up here on Panther Talk.
Jim's conversation with Panther Legend to John Beeson, Jim alluded
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to this just a moment ago, quarterbacks and their second acts.
Tom Logan, Bill and I spoke about this on our
podcast earlier today, how we're seeing a trend in the
NFL fields, Gino Smith, Baker, Mayfield, Sam Darnold, guys with
these second.
Speaker 9 (22:50):
Chances, Surgent making the most of it.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
All that ahead here on Panther Talk on the Carolina
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Spraders bring a twist screen pass right side, Shuba gets
the block, has.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
The pot Damn tracks into the end zone. Brought Carolina touchdown.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Every time we go out there, we're trying to win.
And for me, when I haven't been able to be
out there, you know, it's hard because you're not affecting
the game. And so for me, I got to go
out there and just have fun. And I felt like
the way we started this game, our mindset coming into
it was exactly what we needed to have, and we
started fast and we never took the foot off the gas.
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Speaker 7 (23:45):
When you talk about some of the great linebackers in
Panthers history, John Beeson is on that list from a
Miami Hurricane, just like the current GM Dan Morgan. He
was a first round draft pick in two thousand and
seven and played with Carolina till twenty thirteen, three times.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
A pro player.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
In fact, he played every single game the first four
years he was a Panther. In fact, never even missed
a practice before injury set in. This week, we visit
with former Panther linebacker great John.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
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Speaker 7 (24:23):
You come out of the up talk about that in
Miami a little bit there, Your guy Dan Morgan out
of there as well, a general manager of this team.
Did you see that kind of future for him back
in the day when he was coming through the program.
I mean it kind of proceded a little.
Speaker 10 (24:38):
Bit, but yeah, you know what, I always say this
about Dan. I mean, he's the most decorated player to
come out of University Miami, A massive mentor. I wanted
to come here and play with him. Obviously when he
got injured my rookie year, I came out first, got
to bring a jersey out in honor of him, because
it's it's really about the guys who won look after
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you and then you hit Ford and Dan has the
same kind of scenario, like you play so hard that
the body can't play to the level of that you're
you're demanding of it. So I know he got into
to being a pro Scott.
Speaker 11 (25:15):
I was like, yeah, Dan wants to do that.
Speaker 9 (25:17):
Like he's just a chill guy.
Speaker 10 (25:18):
You know, Ashley's at home three kids, like you know,
made good money, So like.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
What's he doing?
Speaker 10 (25:24):
And then all of a sudden and I'm like, okay,
assistant GM, but being up there and Buffalo okay. And
then he comes back to Charlotte and I said I
told him this when he got the job. I said,
whatever you need from me because people they want me
to coach or I.
Speaker 11 (25:37):
Would work for Dan. There's another guy I play with.
Speaker 10 (25:41):
He's uh, Glenn Cook, assistant GM up in up in Cleveland,
has interview interview several times for the GM job, and
I said, I'll work for you, but I'm not working
for everybody else. So they need a guy in the
trenches who knows what hard work is to evaluate true one,
it's really about developing a passion.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
That's what's missing with the game.
Speaker 10 (26:04):
Is finding guys who care so much about winning that
they'll make the necessary sacrifice that'll end up with a
W on Sundays.
Speaker 7 (26:13):
You think that culture is going to change now with
college football obviously with the transfer portal and all that.
Then they come to the pros. It's not gotten quite
to that point. But players don't stick around in general
in one organization like they used to back in your day.
Speaker 10 (26:25):
Yeah, so when I got traded for when I got
traded to the Giants, Giants hadn't traded for players also
from University of Miami, Oj Anderson, the juice Man.
Speaker 11 (26:36):
Nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Long gap there, Yeah.
Speaker 10 (26:40):
Long gap twenty thirteen. So it didn't happen. And what
happens is you have to be somewhat of.
Speaker 11 (26:45):
A cap captures. I had already got restructure, which means
pay cut. I was injured. They took money from me.
Speaker 10 (26:49):
So now my value still here if he's healthy. But
what I'm making is league minimum from being the highest
paid in history and then or restructure to league minimum.
So that has changed, shorter contracts, and now the world
of trading is is that so now it's truly an
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individual business. Whereas you know the reason why Thomas Davis
gets on me right now, You're not coming back and
retiring a Panther, I said, listen, Thomas. I said, the
Giants traded for me. They gave me the highest free
agency deal. It was a three year deal to be
the guy. After that season, I said, it's out of respect.
I'm not going to retire a Giant and I'm not
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going to retire a Panther. But my home, my heart
is with the Panthers.
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If you have the Sanders Richard a goal line and
is in for a Carolina touchdown, you.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
Know, really it was the whole group. It was just
about playing complimentary football when you can convert some of
your third downs. You know, we were forty six percent
on the day, which is not a stellar day on
third down, but it's good because we continue drives. We
had some earned first on first and second down to
be able to continue to play football. When you can
give the defense a chance to take a breath, they
come out and they play their run stout. They run
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like crazy, and we're not putting them out there as much,
you know, And there are days that happened that way,
you know. But when you can play complimentary football, then
you're just making the whole team stronger as you finish
the game.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
And that's what really felt like today Weekend Warriors with
a niche Uff and Tom Louganville.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
I thought it would.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Start here after watching Andy Dalton play on Sunday and
Dalton's become now part of a larger storyline in the NFL.
And I'm gonna go into your wheelhouse. You're a big
superhero guy, right yeah, all right? So when that whole
Marvel cinema at Universe launched, do you remember the first
movie in that series.
Speaker 11 (29:05):
I believe it was Bolt or iron Man.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
It was iron Man. I had to look it up.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Okay, do you remember where Robert Downey Junior's career was
pre Iron Man?
Speaker 12 (29:16):
Oh?
Speaker 10 (29:17):
Do I?
Speaker 11 (29:19):
It was in prison.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
I was thinking of.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Iron Man because I thought in Hollywood, especially recently, I
don't think anybody's had a better second act than Robert
Downey Jr.
Speaker 11 (29:31):
No doubt.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
And it started with that role and people were going,
really him, You're you're casting him?
Speaker 9 (29:38):
And then you know that blew up.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
The franchise blew up, and then he's doing all these
great movies and now he's as big a movie star
as anybody, and he was able to resuscitate his career. Well,
look around the NFL. Justin Fields has Pittsburgh at three,
and oh Chicago dumped them. Sam Darnold as the Vikings.
This is going to sound looking like maybe a Super
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Bowl contender. We saw what Geno Smith has done Baker Mayfield, right,
Andy Dalton for the Panthers on Sunday. I'm wondering, is
there a why behind all these guys having their Robert
Downey Junior moment so to speak?
Speaker 12 (30:20):
Yeah, I think there's probably quite a few. I think
in some instances it's being thrown to the wolves, forced
to play right away. You're a high draft choice, which
likely met you went to a roster that didn't have
a lot of the components around you that would help
to enable you to play your best early.
Speaker 11 (30:39):
I think that's that's one. I think also number two.
So many stars have to align a niche like you
need the.
Speaker 12 (30:48):
Right component here, the right component there, the right staff,
the right scheme, the right approach, all of these different
components that really don't have anything to do with just
you as the individual. To a quarterback, I think the
younger the quarterback, those components have to be right, or
they've got to be in place, or there's got to
be some building blocks for them to be in place.
Speaker 11 (31:11):
And then what happens.
Speaker 12 (31:12):
It's kind of like the freshman in college that was
the highly italied high school recruit and he's expected to
come in and light the world on fire, and when
in reality that's not how it generally works.
Speaker 11 (31:27):
Those guys are rarities, and so I always.
Speaker 12 (31:29):
Go back too, and I look to guys like, well,
Aaron Rodgers is probably the greatest example. And then now
Jordan Love another great example, where you go to an
organization as a late first round draft choice. You're not
forced to play right away. You do have good players
around you. You've afforded the ability to develop and grow
and immature and learn and watch, and then you get
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your moment and all of the pieces of the puzzle
are already in play and around you. And so with
guys like Justin Fields, and I think he's a great example.
Sometimes a change of scenery, sometimes having better players around
you at some parts, the organizational structure of long term success,
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which Pittsburgh has. All of these different things. I think
all of them are common denominators. And just maybe landing
in that right spot, somebody believes in you, They're going
to invest in you, and they're gonna spend some time
to try.
Speaker 11 (32:32):
And put you in the best position as possible. I
think it's very very real.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
You're going to see teams now change the way they
approach that quarterback position, even with first round draft picks,
because as tempting as it is to throw the guy
in there right away and say, hey, while he's on
his rookie deal and not making a lot of money,
this is a window. If it's not for the long
term benefit of the quarterback, you may rethink it look
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at Detroit. Jared off is a great example. Right, went
to a Super Bowl with the Rams, and then you know,
lost a few pieces and the offensive line wasn't as
good and things started going south. They gave up bottom.
All let's go get the veteran Matthew Stafford. He goes
to Detroit. He's now the quarterback for Alliance team that
a lot of people think can go win the NFC.
(33:19):
When you're scouting and you're looking for those raw elements
and you're looking for those traits, and you're saying, hey,
if he maxes out, this is what he can be.
Sometimes you got to go through your lumps to get there.
Sometimes it takes a little bit of trial and error,
trial by fire before you can reach eighty ninety percent
of your potential. It just maybe makes you rethink that
(33:43):
what we saw in him, yeah, it is still there,
but sometimes it takes a little longer to unlock it.
Speaker 12 (33:48):
Yeah, And I think the ones that do end up
panning out after it's taken a little while, they all
have a few things in common. Number One, they are
tireless workers. They have intellect. Nothing in their life is.
Speaker 11 (34:03):
More important than football. So they're willing to commit to it.
Speaker 12 (34:06):
So if a guy is having some struggles or things
aren't going his way, when you made the initial evaluation,
you went through the evaluation process, you really are focusing
on checking those boxes of mental toughness, competitive temperament, work
ethic because when things aren't going well, your athleticism and
(34:27):
physical attributes aren't going to be what saves you. It's
going to be those things. So for every JaMarcus Russell
who has all of those physical attributes but didn't know
how to be a pro, it was never going to
happen for him because of those other intangible traits. And
I think, you know, I think Alex Smith Anisi is
(34:47):
another great example, although he didn't have to change teams
to do it, but the scenery change and the perspective
change of Jim Harbaugh coming into San Francisco turned him
into a completely different player. But it took three or
four years and people were ready to write him off.
And then what ends up happening is you play a
guy in Colin Kaepernick, and now you become a high
(35:09):
profile trade free agent and end up in a good
situation in Kansas City.
Speaker 11 (35:13):
But it didn't happen overnight.
Speaker 12 (35:15):
But the work ethic, competitive temperament, and mental toughness. If
you don't have those three things to weather the storm,
then you're just not gonna pan out.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
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Speaker 2 (35:38):
We return here on Panthers Talk and we're gonna be
watching our next opponent tonight. Two Monday night football games
Buffalo Jacksonville and then the Bengals, who are zero to
two taking on the Washington Commanders. I look at the
game that we have coming up on Sunday and we'll
learn more about Cincinnati tonight. They've generally been a team
the last few years. Even when they've been good, they
(36:00):
get off to a slow start, but a couple of
things jump out. One through their first two games Eugene,
they have not been able to stop the run. And
remember in the offseason they got rid of DJ Reider.
You pay Joe Burrow, you have to cut somewhere, and
they didn't bring back DJ Reiders. Sheldon Rankins, who they
got has been banged up, and then they have not
been able to run the football Joe Mixon is running
(36:22):
wild for the Texans.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
We saw what he did week one.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
They brought in Zach Moss and not really much of
a running game inability to stop the run. T Higgins
is expected to play tonight, but he missed the first
two games with a hammy. Jamar Chase didn't take part
in training camp. Joe Burrow coming off wrist surgery. Yeah,
this is a team that a lot of us thought
would be a Super Bowl contender, would be an opponent
(36:46):
that's really tough to beat. If Tonight's gonna be telling
because they turn a corner. They turn a corner. But
something seems off with this team so far.
Speaker 8 (36:56):
Don't forget you gotta also look at their last game
against the Kansasity Chiefs him down to one play they did.
It came out to one play if the safety just
makes a punch at the ball as opposed to trying
to interce up the ball and no DPI games over there.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
If Jamar Chase doesn't lose his cool.
Speaker 8 (37:11):
Absolutely so. I mean I think that they are really
bonifi team. But you did as you elucidate it. The
problems running the rock seventy two yards only rushing and
averaging and also one hundred and fifty nine giving up.
Speaker 9 (37:24):
That means you can run the ball.
Speaker 8 (37:26):
And the way that we're running the rock right now
with Cuba, Tuba's on He's on a mission.
Speaker 9 (37:30):
Dude.
Speaker 8 (37:31):
That dude is running that ball hard, and I'm like, dude,
I don't want to tackle that dude. That dude is
running like Derrick Henry hard, like get out of my way.
I'm trying to go ahead and eat and I'm going
to make a name for myself because i am the
starting running back on the Carolina Panthers. That's what he
seems to me. Every time he tested the ball, He's
trying to go ahead and hurt somebody, and I like that.
So he has a great opponent coming up in the Bengals,
(37:53):
where you can go ahead and exercise some of that.
Speaker 9 (37:55):
But do you want to get get rid of.
Speaker 7 (37:56):
Cuba has always played hard, hard, and he came in
as a track guy but kind of lighter. But now
he's put on more weight each year on his frame
and become a better football player each year as well.
But the problem with having guys in their contract years,
other in their contract year, but then you get you're
gonna get the best version of all these guys in
their contract year or two, whether and again, whether that's
for here or for somebody else, but I mean, you're
(38:16):
going to get their best version. I'm not saying that's
what's inspiring him, because I think he's been doing that
all along. But I would say somebody like Deontay Johnson,
who wasn't used as much over the past year or two,
he's going to make the most of his opportunities. And
we'll see moving into this week with Adam Thielen status
is with that hamstring injury, but he's going to be
the featured guy because of the health right now and
because he's a starting receiver and he has a.
Speaker 8 (38:36):
Threat to go ahead and break it every single time
when he catches the ball. It looks like I'm like,
my goodness. It kind of reminds me a little bit
Steve Smiff, like this dude's about to do something with
the rock, and so I like having that threat.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
He had fourteen targets on Sunday, eight catches. In the
previous two games twelve targets, five receptions.
Speaker 8 (38:56):
I know he's probably the happiest that Dalton's the quarterback
because Dalton definitely looks targeted him and it was warranted.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
It's gonna become a big story towards the back end
of the week. Dalton facing his old team, and he's
faced them already playing for other teams. When you played
your old team.
Speaker 9 (39:13):
Wanted to be a crap out of them. I wanted
to beat him like they stole money. How do you
really feel, man, like they stole money. I was thinking
about that game.
Speaker 8 (39:21):
I marked it on the calendar, and I was like, coy,
don't say a word, don't say a word, don't say work.
When I went against the Seattle Seahawks had an interception
that had like maybe eight tackles. Mean, I was like
everywhere trying to bust a man in the mouth legally
because you know, it's like I want them to know that, hey.
Speaker 9 (39:37):
This is what you miss.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
But when the microphones in your face, you say no,
you say all good, nameless, faceless opponent.
Speaker 7 (39:42):
One game at a time, one game at a time,
that's what you do, unless you're unless you're Steve Smith
in Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
I I thump, he's never been one to mince work.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
You're saying it's real, No, it's real.
Speaker 8 (39:56):
Dalton wanted to go ahead and beat him like they
stole money. He ain't gonna say that, but that's how
I'm thinking.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Well, they kind of did. They let him go, and
they made room for Joe Burrow. But Andy showed you
on Sunday, Huh, what do you do?
Speaker 3 (40:08):
He still got it.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
I hit the button on my chair and I sank.
I turned into a seven year old. I just sack
underneath the table. That might be a That might be
a good way to exit and take the life raft.
We'll see on Panther Talk next week.
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