September 29, 2025 • 41 mins
This week on Panther Talk, Anish, Jim and Eugene speak with Dave Canales and Tre Boston about the Panthers week 4 loss to the Patriots and this Sunday's matchup against the Dolphins.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
All three phases. We got the big plays on special teams, unit,
big plays on defens offensively sputtering out. We have to
be able to finish drives. We have to be able
to eliminate the penalties and put ourselves in position to
come away with points. You know, this is a game
where I got to look at everything that we're doing
and make sure I'm doing the right things to prepare
a team.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
And now, along with Jim Zochi and Eugene Robinson, here's
a Niche Shroff with Panther Talk live from the Panthers
broadcast facility at Bank of America Sterio.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
On this Monday. It's another edition of Panther Talk and
e shroffch Zochi, Eugene Robinson and we're joined as always
by Panthers head coach Dave Canalis. Let's start with this, Dave,
just the last two weeks, how do you process Atlanta
and New England side by side?
Speaker 4 (01:07):
To start off you know, two great weeks of practice
where the communication, the execution, the anticipation of what's coming
really in all phases has grown. And to see the
disparity of the result from a thirty to zhering day
where the Falcons did give us the ball three times
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and then the flip side of giving up the big punt,
explosive plays, losing the field position, battle, an offense not
being able to sustain. And I look at the two
weeks in the preparation and the process, I look at
the execution and I'm like, Okay, we need to be
able to carry this over consistently and go out there,
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play with each other, execute the way we know how
to be a competitive team. And that's the part that
we're after this week, and the conversations are around how
do we maintain that type of that level of consistency
and carryover.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
You have been on great teams, super Bowl teams with Seattle.
When you find that consistency, what does it look like.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
It's the players and it's routine, it's the process, but
it's the player's ownership of what we're doing. It's the
player's care and focus for how to execute together, holding
each other accountable. It's not enough to show up and
go to meetings, walk through and practice. They got to
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talk beforehand, in between afterwards and be on the same page.
While we set the foundation, we give the information, we
ask the players to trust us with that part of it.
Then when you really hone in on the details and
it really becomes important, you can see the dialogue happening
with the players out there. How do we iron this
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thing out? I think it's better if we move this out, Coach.
Can we move this out of yard?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
You know?
Speaker 4 (02:56):
And it's that give and take where it becomes special
and that's what I'm seeing grow. But we have to
be able to carry that over from the week to
the game.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
And Coach, you know, we've always lived by this twenty
four hour rule. And I would tell you, honestly, sometimes
in twenty four hour rule, when I've lost the game,
it would live. It will stay with me a little
bit longer than twenty four hours. I wonder, what is
your ruling? Does it stick with you? Does it twenty
four hours? Does it mean you just move on or
do as you go through the week? Do things just
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come up in the minds? Oh, we should have done that.
We should have done that.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
I think it's the reaction to whether you want or
lost that you need to move on from. But there
are so many lessons in every game that is the
greatest teacher. The greatest teacher is we are exposed by
the camera and by this opponent that we're playing, and
we see what we can do well, and we see
what we need to work on, and those are the
lessons that.
Speaker 6 (03:47):
You have to take with you. You have to.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Address the things that you need to improve on in
that week. So and you have to capture the things
that worked well, what worked well for us, and we
have to be able to build off of and correct
the things that showed up in the last game. So
that part doesn't go away from a technical standpoint, it's
just the feeling of whether you want or loss that
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you need to quickly move on from because it's going
to take all of your energy to be able to
play an NFL opponent week to week. It requires all
of your focus. You can't lose emotional energy based on
the outcome of a last game to be really focused
on the improvement that you're looking for week to week.
Speaker 7 (04:27):
In a week like this, we heard from Derek Brown
obviously che will howboard, you got some real team leaders
in there. Did you like the response? So the players
receiving the message you were giving them after this game
in terms of getting things corrected and the players taking
that ownership.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Absolutely, they're accountable. The coaches are accountable as well. We
have to look at ourselves. We have to evaluate all
of our processes. We have to evaluate the players are
putting out there. We have to evaluate our scheme, the
core tenants, the things that allow us to have success.
What are we playing that's been most successful or most consistent,
and can we hone in on those things and get
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really good at those things?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Injuries hit you guys pretty hard in that game on
Sunday at receiver with no J T. Sanders at tight end?
Offensive line, can you give us a snapshot of the health.
I know you don't know everything, but a quick snapshot
of where you guys are from a health standpoint.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
You know, we just count on the next guys to
come in there and execute. And you know, regardless of
who that is, we still have a bunch of players
out there that play at a high level. And those
guys also have to bring them along and give them
the confidence you can come in here, you can do it.
Speaker 8 (05:30):
We're counting on you.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
You've put in the work and let's go. You know.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
That's really the mentality that we take coach.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
How easy or how hard is it to correct things
on the field, particularly when we looked at the put
return and then we see another part return, How hard
is to correct that on the field in real time?
Speaker 4 (05:45):
I think the importance is not to overcorrect, you know.
The there are fundamental principles that we teach. There's a
fundamental way that we try to create group tackling, and
we just have to be disciplined about that because the
minute you try to overcompensate for one thing, then you
get exposed in another area, and the ebb and flow
of that can be deadly, it can be really painful.
Speaker 8 (06:04):
And it's showed up on.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
The second pont return where guys are trying to make
a play, you know, and they kind of play out
of their normal spot and then we're exposed in a
different way. It happens on offense in the protection game
or in the route concept, you know, or the run
the run game with the back and it's like this
is where the run's supposed to go and if we
look for it to go somewhere else, you know, you
can get into trouble. Same thing on defense. If somebody
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gets beat by a certain part, someone else can't try
to fill into that spot. You have to keep playing
your role. We'll correct the technique issue on the first
part of it, but those things can snowball.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
We have to be studs.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
We've got to be disciplined about just continuing to execute
our assignment.
Speaker 7 (06:41):
This is more about moving forward. But there were some
you know, sometimes you win and there's some things that
get overlooked that were negative. But in this case, there
were some good things that happened in.
Speaker 8 (06:49):
A tough loss.
Speaker 7 (06:50):
Running the ball for almost one hundred thirty yards four
and a half yards per carry, stopping the run. Those
are things that will travel forward that maybe give you
some building blocks.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Absolutely, as we continue to formulate the identity of this team,
there are things that you can learn from. Again, like
we talked about, you know that you want to carry
with you the hard lessons, for sure, but also the
positives of a new player finding a way to contribute
in some way, shape or form, whether it's special teams,
defense or on offense. You know, we're gathering a lot
of information about who we have and that's what today
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is about, is about connecting with each other as a staff,
talking to our players, and making sure that we get
the right guys out there to execute the things that
we want to get to.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
One of the things that we saw young player Ttero McMillan,
already four games into his career, teams are scheming around
him and we saw the Patriots try to do that
a little bit. What does he gain out of that
going forward for his growth?
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Just the resilience to keep playing football. You got to
just get out there and regardless of the score. At
the end of the day, you're a pro. Be out
go out there and be a star. Regardless of what
the score looks like. Just continue to perform at a
high level. Continue to find a way to battle through
things that come up with your body is you got
to find a way to just continue to work.
Speaker 6 (07:59):
And he did that for us last week.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
And coach, how does the particularly when we see the
office of line, because that is such a big part
of what you do from everything from running and throwing
the ball with the mix of the office of line,
as you move forward, how do you envision that being
and what guys you vision being there to go ahead
and help you move on, to go ahead and take
advantage of Bryce's arm and also the running game that
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you guys have.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Yeah, we gotta still work through the health of Chandlerszavalla.
We're taking a look at all that right now, and
so that'll kind of determine how we move forward. But
it's great to have a guy like Brady Christiansen who
can play up and up and down the line in
different spots. And you know, we counted on Brady to
come in and play for us last game, and so
we're just gonna have to kind of figure out how
to puzzle piece that part of it. And it's good
to have Cad, it's good to have d lou Icky
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and Timo really in there. So we're really playing with
one spot right now.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
And does that also change your play calling and what
you're gonna do and say, okay, I might do a
little like here, well maybe we got some more emotion,
maybe maybe got some more quarterback movement.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
Does that affect you?
Speaker 4 (09:01):
It could, Yeah, it definitely could, you know, but again,
we have to figure out over the next couple of
days to see who that combination is you know, what's
a better run to run to the right versus to
the left, and try to find that good balance of that.
Speaker 7 (09:13):
God had a lot of reps and success out of
this current draft class twenty twenty five, and a lot
of folks ask us by Jimmy Horn depending on what
your needs aret receiver moving forward, what have you seen
of him so far in his growth?
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Yeah, Jimmy has been just working hard, he's been studying,
he's been he's really last week was his best week
of practice and just really giving us speed guy that
the guys love to throw to, you know. And and
right now he's going to get an opportunity, you know,
based on where we're at. So we'll get to get
Jimmy out there and and you know, have a package
for him. And also we're just counting on him, like
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when you got when you go in there, be a
guy we can count on, you know, and play fast.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Dave, last thing for me, the splits from being at
home being on the road. You mentioned, Hey, process stays
the same, but that is one variable that changes when
you go back and you look. Is there anything that
jumps out to you, Hey, we're doing this at home
it's something that we maybe can't do on the road
because you're not here. How do you kind of compare
those two.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Yeah, we have to just continue to meet the challenge
of the communication that it takes to get out of
the huddle to be out there on time. I thought
we did a really good job of that. Outside of
a couple of snaps. There was one one headset issue
Bryce and I was kind of you know, he couldn't
quite hear it. And then pretty much from there he
operated at the line of scrimmage. He got the ball
snapped and we got the play started.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
You know.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
So that's a place where we continue to get better
and grow. But then you also just have to be
sensitive with with noise in crowds, how much movement you
do pre snap, and making sure that we can execute
the precision that those snaps require, you know, when we're
on the road.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
All right, Dave Canal's head coach of the Panthers. Back
at it week five, Week five, and week six, a
couple of home games, home cooking. Thank you, Dave.
Speaker 8 (10:56):
All Right, thanks guys, thank you coach.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
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Speaker 1 (11:02):
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Speaker 3 (11:12):
And Hello any Shrop Eugene Robinson, Jim Zochi on this Monday.
I think we were all at a loss for words
after Sunday because there was so much momentum coming off
of the thirty to nothing Atlanta win. And then you
go to New England, Jim, you and I are sitting there.
First drive, Panthers march down the field, score. I know
they missed the kick. Then they get a stop, Patriots
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go three and out, Panthers get the ball back. They're
across midfield and that was kind of the apex of
the game for the Panthers. After that, they punt return touchdown,
A couple of snowballs turned into an avalanche. Next thing
you know, you're looking up forty two to six before
a meetingless touchdown.
Speaker 8 (11:52):
Late had no inkling it was going to be that
kind of a day.
Speaker 7 (11:56):
Of course, you never do, I guess, but is after
coming off of thirty to nothing win, to just completely
flip it and basically lose by thirty points was crazy.
But it was the way that it happened, and it
did begin with like it was one point, but that
ominous dooink off the left up right, and then later
a missed field goal, and then obviously we know the
return of a punt for a touchdown. Another one that
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would it could have should have if not for Sam
Martin the punter tackling meant the fourteen yard line, Trevor
Etn fielding a punt at the three, and we begin
to drive at the one and then we end up
having to kick out of that Eugenius like there's so
it wasn't even like hitting yard. It was obvious yardage
is supposed to hitting yards. But the points means if
you edited that up as far as just the points,
it's like four touchdowns when you look at the field
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position and the direct points and the points left on
the table by Miskicks put it all together, I mean,
in a game like that, and then of course your
spirit gets broken at some point because it's insurmountable. It
just was that avalanche like a Niche was saying that,
like just mathematically, just so many points were given up.
Speaker 8 (12:56):
I'm not putting all of it on that, but that was.
Speaker 7 (12:59):
That was if you're gonna prioritize what went wrong, that
that's the priority with a special team.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
It only stressed the emphasis of special teams because as
you play on offense, you play on defense, you really
consume with that. And typically defensive players, you're gonna be
on the part return team, you're gonna be on a
on on the kickoff team, and you're gonna have some
type of role, but you never expect that that's gonna
yield touchdowns. You don't expect that. You don't expect that
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when you pump the ball that the guy's gonna go
ahead and score a testout pick up sixty yards, you
don't you say, okay, twelve yards, thirteen yards, fourteen yards,
someone to keep it at a minimum. Those were game
changing places. And then when you're fielding a ball, you
have a rule not to fill the ball. You know,
if the ball goes over your head and a ship
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bounced into the end zone of the.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Five yard row, explain that when are you supposed to
fare catch? And when do you let it bounce over you?
Speaker 5 (13:54):
So you're typically at the eight yard line, that's the
furthest that you go because if the ball bounces, the
ball is over your head and you can't field it,
typically it will bounce more than likely in the end zone.
Off the first bounce right, it'll trickle in the end zone.
But you're never supposed to feel the ball, and particularly
if you're in a five yard line. You're never supposed
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to feel the ball on a five yard line because
everybody's running at you. You can slip, you can, There's
too many things that can go wrong. Don't forget if
you do absolutely nothing on the punt return, do absolutely nothing.
You retain the ball, right, You retain the ball, and
the ball has a chance of going inside, going and
being a touchback. And so the half etn slip and
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fall boom down there. Now you just gave the other
team momentum. I'm like, crazy momentum, Like you're backed up
and you can't go anywhere. We can let the dogs eat,
we can come after you. I hope your quarterback drops
back for a pass. We're gonna put in the airs back,
that's what you're thinking. So there's a lot of things
that go wrong, and you don't expect it to happen
on special teams. You always expect that to be clean.
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I don't expect to hit a ball to go doink
off the walls. That I don't expect that, and so
from that standpoint, there were too many eras that happened
special teams wise, that was.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
Too hard to overcome, my thought, and it really miss
with a psyche.
Speaker 8 (15:11):
And I think again some of those are person else.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
Summer now, Trevor Hten has been doing the puttwa turns
and he struggled the previous game and we had a
big enough lead or didn't matter in the Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
And then he had one of the preseason too, yeah, preslide.
Speaker 7 (15:22):
So he started to question he had what even caught
yesterday was up on his shoulder pad and then.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
That's a hard ball. That is really hard ball to catch.
You gotta be really skilled to catch putt returns. It's
very very skilled. You can't be I don't want to
kickoff return people to do it because they're not as
skilled as a receiver learning to catch the ball and
doing that.
Speaker 7 (15:42):
So maybe just to settle do you just like do
like a hundred renfro like we ended up doing the
game yesterday, just to settle things down a little bit.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
That's exactly what you do.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
I would say, Man, the putt return is a very
hard I did putt return and I could catch it,
but there's a skilled level to watching the ball.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
And how do you catch the ball?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
You wonder too, if that's a young player who was
known as a dynamic game breaking type in college comes
to the NFL. He's a rookie, he is a clear
number three on the running back depth chart. Those are
your opportunities. So instead of hitting singles, fair catch, letting
the ball bounce, just doing what's required. It almost feels
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at time it's a young player trying to do too much,
trying to make that home run play when it's not necessary.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Yes, I think so, I think just getting in as
a young player, you saying like this, that ball comes
to me. Boy, you wait, when I get this ball,
I'm about to go ahead and make things happen.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
I bet you. He thinks he thinks that way, and
he should think that way.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
However, the skill level to catch a punt return is
different from catching it in kickoff return, totally different.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
One other thing, and this is one trend which I've
been tracking over the four games. It's good and bad
because when you look under the hood, this Panther team
can move the football. We have seen it two thirds
of their possessions if you don't count end of half
Neil down types two thirds of their possessions, Carolina advances
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past the fifty yard line. Now their scoring rate can
be a lot better on those. I think we all
know that yesterday they score on their first drive. The
next six possessions or not the next six possessions, but
six times after this they get into enemy territory and
don't score, and then they get one on the final drive.
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You look at why explosive plays or the lack thereof,
and we saw New England, Jim. They had a couple
of drives where they marched down the field and it
was twenty yards here, twenty two yards here. The big
explosives allow you to score quickly. And it's not about
scoring quickly as much as okay, if it's going to
take thirteen to fourteen plays, now there's more opportunities for
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things to go wrong, penalty negative play, and that's been happening,
it seems, once they get across the fifty yard line.
So again from a personnel standpoint, Dave Canals might be
challenged because he's got some injuries to dial with this,
but the lack of explosive plays, I think if you
find just a couple of more per game. Some of
those drives turn into scoring drives. No, it's a good point.
Speaker 7 (18:13):
It's ironic that New England was doing that because prior
to that game, they'd only attempted attempted five passes up
twenty plus yards in the air, and they had a couple,
not a lot, but they had a couple of. Yes,
say some of those were catching runs or just runs.
I went for twenty so they count as big chunk plays,
but they weren't in the air that long. And for
the Panthers, like, yeah, you could Teterero Macmillan can do that,
but they start shading a second you know, safety over
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which we saw them doing right now. They're gonna say, okay,
try to beat us with you know, on our renfro,
try to beat us with Tremaine. So they have to
and then or Tommy Tremble and those guys had opportunities.
They did some good things when the ball came their way,
but you can't live on that. It's like those are
kind of things where you can get by for a
series or two, not for four quarters. So you do
need explosive players and game breakers to make it easier
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to get big chunk plays.
Speaker 8 (18:55):
We saw it happen last year.
Speaker 7 (18:57):
It's it's too bad that Jalen Coker got hurt as
soon as Adam Feeling got traded. So the Feeling trade
made sense in the big picture, But then the timing
of Jaalen Cooker getting hurt right after that, you lost
essentially two starting wide receivers at the same time. I
feel like we've been trying to catch up ever since then.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
And that's why I think coach wants to go ahead
and employ jac Horn. Jimmy Horn, I mean Jimmy Horn,
Jesse Jesus is coming back, Jimmy Horn because of the speed.
Because here is as a defensive back, when you're going
against the tight ends and you're going against guys who
are not the guy.
Speaker 6 (19:27):
You have one guy that's who's the guy. McMillan.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
You're not worried at all. You're not sitting there going, oh,
he's not gonna beat me. I'm not worried about his speed.
You're not worried one bit. And then you can tell
you guys, hey, man, go ahead and blits this guy.
Ll Pinier's back. We got this, We got this in
the secondary and so not having someone Jimmy Horn like,
who's explosive, who can run? I mean, that's a that
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changes that changes the game, even if your role is
just running down the field, going through the zone with
a free safety.
Speaker 6 (19:59):
Have to take two people out.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
The now, I understand. Right for those out there who
are taking the glass half empty approach, We've said it
on the show before, the Panthers have to earn back
a little bit of the benefit of the doubt. You're
sitting here at one in three. I think we expected
a better start given the schedule. Silver lining is they
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looked really good at home last week. And you can
poop poo it all you want, but Miami and the
Jets play tonight on Monday Night football. Yep, so Miami
is going to be coming off a short week. That
is a team right now that has some distractions surrounding
the future of their head coach, certainly around Tyreek Hill,
their star wide receiver. But they have a lot of
speed and Eugene Dave Canalis when he sat here said, hey,
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identity of this team, who are we? We want to
be physical, we want to be violent. It almost feels
to me this is an opportunity to get right from
an identity standpoint, go be physical. What do finesse teams? Hey,
when you guys played the forty nine ers, that was
a finesse team. Yeah, and you guys beat the snot
out of them with that Fritz Shermer defense.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
Exactly, because first of all, we will always say like this, look,
I don't care about all how pretty.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
It ain't look right. We're gonna punch them in the mouth.
That's exactly what you do. You punch him in in
the mouth. Legally, you get after it. And so here
it is. I like the fact that legally, you know,
but that's exactly what you do. You get after these
guys right there.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
And so I like the fact that I think our
our character of our team is we're violent, were legally violent,
We get after you. Well, go ahead and get after
them against when they come in here, bust them up
in the mouth legally, punch them in the mouth legally,
and don't and you don't have to apologize for it.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
The other part, though, you still have to go and
do it.
Speaker 7 (21:44):
Yeah, if you're with all of a sudden, it's sixty
yards the other way. So you do have to not
miss on that, say, press coverage or whatever you.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
Can exactly or when you're or when you're going to
the sideline, you know the guy's going to going towards
the sideline, Stay up, don't dive down, and then push
them out of bounds.
Speaker 6 (21:59):
That's the easy play. You don't have to make the
big hits.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
You've got to make the biggest when the biggests come
to make the biggest you don't have to make a
big hit every single time.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
All Right, we'll talk more about Miami a little bit later.
We still have Jim Zokie's interview with former Panther dB
Trey Boston that's still ahead on the Carolina Panthers Radio Network.
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You can't talk about twenty fifteen without twenty fourteen, right
because the way you guys finished out on that winning streak,
win five in a row counting that playoff victory after
starting got three eight and one win the division. And
let's talk about that before we get into twenty fifteen.
Tray as far as what that meant for you as
a young player just coming into the league at a
first up, sure, you're thinking, Wow, my coach bike get
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fired and it's just going sideways and we're in Minnesota
and it's minus nine degrees and it's not going well.
And then somehow out of that this team went on
kind of a year and a half unbelievable run after that.
Speaker 9 (23:30):
Yeah, I mean it was amazing. Again coming into that season,
I had started actually on pup because I had to
have surgeon off season coming off rookie Minnie Camp. But
when I got back it was I want to say
Game six Cincinnati, that was my first time being able
to run down the field, don't kickoff, and then by
game nine I was back. But like you're saying it
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was around like game twelve is when we got to clicking,
and that was mine and Bene ben Wickery's I want
to say, first start together with Roman Harper and Josh Norman,
and then we just got to flowing. I think we're
at a we were at a point in that season
where we just need to figure out things and get
them going. Hey, put these young guys in and see
(24:13):
what they got, because we don't got anything left. We
got a division that we uh, it's maintainable, we can
go get it. And the biggest thing then was just
allowing us to know, you know, coach, we had great
faith in Coach revere Man. No matter what was going on,
we always had faith in and he would come to
the locker room and the team meeting rooms and let
us know, like, guys, we're not out of it, Like
(24:34):
we're not out, Like we can win these next five
games and win the division if you guys played good ball.
And that's exactly what we did. Went out there. We
knew that we you know, we didn't have no chips
on our backs or anything. We knew after we could
have fun, and that's exactly what we did. I had
so much fun during those games because you're telling the
young Trey Boston, like, hey, go be yourself, go make plays.
Whether it's interceptions, whether it's big hits, whether it's making mistakes.
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You're just allowing us to play freely, and the Vets
would just make up for it. And that's what drove
us into that all season of having that charisma, that chemistry.
And now you go into a twenty fifteen all season
where guys are clicking, we know we have we add
a few more key veterans that really changed the game.
(25:19):
I think veterans is where a lot of this league
club when it comes to building rosters. I mean I
could name five six guys who were past year twelve.
You know, guys who you would you can claim washed up.
But when you put them together and they know exactly
what they're doing, mix them in with some young guys. Man,
it's a special recipe.
Speaker 7 (25:38):
Take us into that secondary group, the thieves avenue. Because
you mentioned some of them already. Josh Norman had his
career year, which turned into his big payday the next
year in going to his next stop with Washington. But
you mentioned already put Tillman, who unfortunately got hurt right
at the end of that regular season, Kurt Coleman, yourself,
Roman Harper, great group of players collectively.
Speaker 8 (25:58):
What was it like to be a part of that
second Oh?
Speaker 9 (26:00):
I mean we still talk to this day. I mean
to be a part of that secondary was amazing. You
had a veteran in Roman Harper who was just cool, calm, collective.
I think the same thing for Kirk. Kirk gave us
a jolt of energy. I think Kurt was the very
first person in my life where I'd ever lost my
spot too. And it wasn't because I've just played bad.
It's because he came in and played so well that
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it allowed me to take a back seat and learn
from I think a lot of young guys can learn
from that, you know, adversity and then learning when is
your time and playing your role because you know, I
put pressure on the team to hey, you gotta play me.
When do you do it? Okay, with third down, let's
just throw them in there, Roman Harper, We're going to
take a veteran off the field. We're gonna move Kurt
(26:41):
to strong safety and free We're gonna put in trade
because we know he can go get that ball like
that's how you take advantage of your role and being
a part of that secondary. That's exactly what we did.
You know, everybody played a role. Josh Norman was bigger
than Josh Norman had ever been. And that's because guys,
we trusted each other, We loved each other. Our chemistry
(27:02):
was through the roof. And that's why to this day,
we still talk, we still communicate, we still go to
each other's events. I'll be at kirk Coma's event, uh
and in two days golfing with his you know charity.
You know, for us, that's that year was It's the
pinnacle of like brotherhood. You know, thieves have creating something
that the Carolina Panthers nation still talks about thieves like
(27:25):
they're still dying for what we once had. And and
you know, we we we want to leave that tradition here.
We want to leave a legacy. And that's what we did.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
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Speaker 3 (27:59):
All right, this Monday Night will be on the Dolphins
and Jets because those are a couple of upcoming opponents
for the Panthers. Miami this week. Then Dallas comes to
Bank of America Stadium, and then the Panthers go not
to New York but to East Rutherford and New Jersey
to play the Jets. Jets, Jets, Jets. Miami is interesting,
they're winless. The Jets are winless, But let's stick with
(28:21):
Miami Eugene because that's the Week five opponent for the Panthers.
Miami will be coming off a short week. When you
watch that offense, right to his big strength as he
gets rid of the ball. So yes, the worry on
the Panthers end. There wasn't much of a pass rush
against New England. They only have really what two sacks
in four games. One of those sacks was really a
(28:43):
tackle on a scrambling quarterback at the line of scrimmage,
which goes down as a sack. That happened in the
New England game with Turk Wharton, So technically a sack.
How do you disrupt too? Ay, it just feels this
could be kind of the oh yeah, we've got Derek
Brown game if it goes well for the Panthers.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
You know, I'm looking for coaches Jero to do this.
I really believe that you have to get in the
quarterback's face and you have to let him know that
you're blitzing. And then of course he's gonna go, I
got tyreek, you're gonna.
Speaker 6 (29:17):
Make it the ball. I got guys.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
I can throw the ball too, but you're gonna make
him make a decision right now. And so what I
would love to see I would love to see not
only dB Derrick Brown go ahead and have a great game,
but I would love to see those linebackers pressing the
issues in those gaps and say, hey, we're gonna go
and blitch you, and we're gonna let you know. And
we're gonna tell our guys on the outside, Jack and
(29:41):
JC and Smith Wade hold up on the outside.
Speaker 6 (29:44):
We're gonna ask you to hold up.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
And I believe having that where whenever we would blitz
for at the Green Bay Packers way back in the day,
man Larroy Butler will get right up in the gap
and he's let you know, I'm coming through this gap, dude,
all right. And and then Bernardo Harris middle lineback. We're
coming right through this gap, but we're gonna let you know,
all right, and what do you do? Doom called doom.
We're getting all these different calls. They're making all these
(30:07):
different checks, and now on the backside, we're like, okay,
we got him, all right. Our guys can get to him.
We just got to hold the line for two seconds.
We can get it because those guys can get to him.
And I'm just saying that's something that I haven't seen
a lot of. I would like to see more of that,
because I think we have the personnel to go ahead
and get after people, get after the and don't let
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tua like Drake May did. Don't let him sit back
there because he sit back there's Oh I'm telling.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
You, he's too good.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
He's too good.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
He'll he'll end up eviscerating your secondary and your linebackers
if you let him sit back there comfortably.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
Yeah, Drake May had a day and he took He's
bigger too, so he could take off and run a
little bit. To me, the biggest X factor is a
chan because you know that he's he's completely healthy going
into this game tonight, and he's a guy that could
catch a hundred passes in a season, so you have
to talk about the dual threat. Doesn't play with the
physicality of Christian McCaffrey, but he's that kind of back
where he could run for a hundred He could catch
(31:04):
a hundred yards worth of passes in this game. So
you have to have a play and to kind of
keep him containing because you could do a lot of
good things on first and second down, say, and then
third Duck could blow up and he makes a big
play if he gets loose.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
What you need to do with a chan. We saw
this when Miami played Buffalo. Did you see the hit
Shaq Thompson? Yeah, out on a chan? Yeah you sent
it to us. Yeah, Jack Thompson, I mean laid the
lumber on a chan. And again, you guys have been
in the spot. Eugene. You played on a physical Packers defense.
You've played on physical defenses. You get a finesse team.
He can play bully ball. And again, you're not trying
(31:38):
to hurt anybody. But I think we all know to
his injury history exactly, he's probably not going to put
himself in harm's way. When we've watched the Dolphins be successful.
If you give the quarterback time, and you give the
receiver space. He gets rid of the ball quickly and
the run after catch can be lethal. But if you
can affect him, if guys like Derek Brown, Turk Wharton
(31:59):
blow the play up from the inside all of a sudden,
that scrambles to it, because we've also seen if there's pressure,
he often can't get to that second read.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
You know, and here it is.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
And I would be really clear because you're not trying
to hurt anybody. That's I've never gone into a game
trying to hurt anybody. I've all gone to the game.
I'm gonna hit you as hard as I can within
the within the framework of the rules, and so legally, legally,
actually actually legally, that's exactly what everybody does, right, and
so we ununderstand that that's part of what we kind
(32:31):
of sign up for, not really, but kind of we do.
And so we understand that's part of the landscape of it.
And so I'm blessing my I'm blessing my guys because
within the framework of the rules, I can and I
want to get the quarterback on the ground as much
as I can legally.
Speaker 7 (32:47):
In Miami, we don't know what their game will be
like tonight against the Jets, but they could come in
being a very desperate team and a coach, you know,
fighting for his future because he's been there for a
while and it started out kind of sizzling and then
it kind of just fizzled since that time because of
what they're running out there, which is his system there.
So it's gonna be a desperate team when they come
in here. So we'll see how they do tonight, obviously,
(33:08):
what their health looks like coming out of this game
against Steve Wilkes's defense with the Jets, that's always a
physical challenge.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
And what about Tyreek?
Speaker 5 (33:16):
I mean Tyreek he wants that spotlight, He wants that
he wants those eyes to be on him because he
believes that he's one of the best receivers in the
league and so he wants to be able to prove that.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
If you're the Dolphins, though, and you're coming into Carolina
after this Monday night and you see the Panthers, hey
they're one and three and they've had defensive struggles against
New England and Jacksonville the first half against Arizona, how
would you attack?
Speaker 5 (33:43):
So knowing that we've struggled. We've been able to stop
the run, but we can't stop the pass. The pass
has really been it's been one of the bane of
existence that we've had here. I don't know why that
we don't put more pressure on the quarterback to stop that.
And because we haven't, I think that they're gonna believe. Okay,
(34:07):
well they do a four man rush like they've done, Okay,
we'll cool. We'll keep five in the block, all right,
have the have the running back sit back here and
pick up somebody and then scoop out, and then we'll
see what we can do on the outside. And if
they're in a zone, hopefully we can throw behind the zone,
because that's what they've been able to do, And if
they sit back far in the zone like I would
(34:29):
expect they're gonna do, we'll throw underneath on something underneath.
And so from that standpoint, it's that's why blitzing, I
think is one of the best things that you can do.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
Because it makes you make a decision right now.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Yeah, Jim. And offensively, the difference in the three losses
versus the one win in the second half, the Panthers
were able to stay in their offense. I know they
ran the ball a little bit in the second half
against New England. That was partly because those who are
where the bodies were, the extra tight ends. The receiving
room was down and that was late. Once the game
was over Jacksonville, Arizona. Dave Canalis out here and said,
(35:03):
we had to go in the shotgun. We had to
throw because of the score, big deficit at halftime. Stay
in the game in that first half and look like
we were doing that with New England before things snowballed.
You stay in the game. That's more Chewba, that's more
Rico Dowbtle, that's more play action.
Speaker 7 (35:17):
It was so unexpected what happened in special teams because
they were so good. They probably the best special teams
performance in the league the week before. So hopefully it's
a one off anomaly and to your point, it will
keep the game close no matter what happens between the
offenses and defenses. As important as that third phase is,
I would like to I talk about this a little
bit in the postgame yesterday, Eugene, is that you know,
(35:38):
we our best, deepest, healthiest skill position group is running back.
We talked about ETM maybe struggling a little bit in
the punt return game. But you've got a sable of
three running backs there, and those short swing passes and
screens could be extension of the running game that also
help you in the past game when you don't have
all your allotment at tight end and receiver right now,
like JT. Sanders is out, number of receivers are out.
(35:58):
I wonder if they could featured the and kind of
rotate them in a little bit more as far as
making them two dimensional, as far as catching more passes
in addition to the running that they do.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Absolutely this one thing I like about having backs who
are really accomplished, who can block. But if you hit
them on the screen, get the draw going on, get
some movement with the quarterbacks and throw back to the
running back, they're deadly because guess what happens if you
send all the receivers down the field. You know, it
goes with all the people down the field, all the
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secondary and the linebackers, and now you got something that's
one on one with a movement type of thing of
brush out of the pocket, boom, throwing back on, throwing
back across the field to you know, behind the line
of scrimmage. I'm telling you those plays, they they work,
and particularly with your guys a doubto man my goodness
or Tube at TN. They're two good You can't stop them,
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and I can't expect one linebacker or safety to make
an open field tackle every single time. And so I
like the fact that you can go screen draw. I
would do things of that nature to get our backs
more involved.
Speaker 6 (37:04):
In what's going on.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Two consecutive home games with a chance to hopefully get
to five hundred before the trip to East Rutherford to
take on the Jets. It starts on Sunday with the
Dolphins coming to Bank of America Stadium. You can watch
the Dolphins against the Jets, who are the Week seven opponent,
tonight on Monday Night Football. We're back here on the
Carolina Panthers Radio Network.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Panther Talk continues on the Carolina Panthers Radio Network.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
An A. Schroff, Jim Zochi, Eugeeter Robinson. We're all dad's
sitting around here, need a little fatherly advice here. My
daughter today, for her eighth birthday, wants to go to
the South Park Mall to get her ears pierced. Oh,
it's kind of one of those moments we're're going, say
eight or eighteen eight eight, and I'm kind of sitting there, going,
(37:53):
all right, you're growing up. You're grown up in like
the protective dad veneer. The claws are out.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
Yeah, but you gotta let her get an air pierce.
That's a big that's like a rite of passage. That's
a big thing I do. Yeah, that's a big thing.
Speaker 6 (38:07):
Typically, say what my wife did. She got my daughter's
ears pierce when she was a baby. Okay, I'm like,
why are you doing he baby?
Speaker 5 (38:15):
She says, because she won't even know, And she kept
little studs in her ear so that she's always had
her ears pairs. But I know that was a ride
of passes for my sisters, getting the ears pairs at
you know, eight, nine, ten years old.
Speaker 8 (38:25):
Watch out for nine. That's a tattoo year.
Speaker 6 (38:30):
No tattoo. No, you can't get no tattoos, but you
can't get your ears pierce.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Well, listen, she she had a tattoo on her face
about a week ago when they were at the Panthers. Yeah, okay,
with Panthers tattoos.
Speaker 6 (38:41):
It's different.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
But it was funny over the summer. Over the summer
she's got like a little friend from her neighborhood. They
go and they go see a movie together. My wife's
taking them. We're in Houston for the preseason game. And yeah,
this young man sitting next to her puts the arm
rested up.
Speaker 6 (38:58):
Oh no, not in the RUSS.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Not the rest.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Go ahead, puts the armrest.
Speaker 6 (39:03):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
So I get this text maybe an hour before the game,
and I'm going, yeah, you tell him to put that
armrest down. Well, they want to share their popcorn. I
don't care.
Speaker 6 (39:12):
I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Well, the good news was last thirty forty minutes of
the movie, something sad happened. It was one of these
Disney movies. And he starts to shed some tears. Okay,
And she said, hey, it's going to be okay, don't worry.
And I said, it is going to be okay, don't worry.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
Yeah, every parent, especially when you have daughters, that's a
big thing. As for dad, but you learned to go
ahead and grow with them. And I would just tell
you just love on your daughter. Just love on your daughter,
and when she cries, pick her up and tell it's going.
Speaker 6 (39:48):
To be all right, and be all right.
Speaker 7 (39:49):
My daughter's late twenties and last Saturday, as I'm driving
out to ECU to do a game, I get a
text message and it's a text message picture of her
hand with a ring on it. Oh wow, she's had
the same boyfriend for a long time.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Congratulations.
Speaker 7 (40:02):
Yeah, so they're gonna get married next year. But I mean,
in my head, she is the age of what you
just described. I still in my head, I picture eight
year old Holly.
Speaker 8 (40:11):
It's just in my head. It's just like I can't
believe it's twenty years later, essentially.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
So you're watching the whole timeline. Yeah, as you're heading
to Sue plays through your head. Yeah, because they're always
your little girl. Eugene knows the same thing. It's like,
my daughter is thirty eight years old, is she still
my little girl?
Speaker 5 (40:27):
I still see her as Britney, my little daughter, but
you know, and I know she's a woman, but I
still see her is that way.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Yeah. They all grow up, Things change, things evolve. Panthers
have a game on Sunday against Miami. We're hoping Carolina
can take that next step.
Speaker 5 (40:44):
And when you compliment your dough on her ear rings,
well she's gonna think it's the biggest thing.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
It's gonna be a big thing. I'm not worried about that,
you know what. I'm worried about. What's that, Daddy? I
want to buy these?
Speaker 6 (40:54):
Here?
Speaker 8 (40:57):
Get her the starter set.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Like if we go to what's the junk earring store
they have at the mall?
Speaker 6 (41:03):
None of them?
Speaker 3 (41:04):
But go ahead, you know where you buy the five
dollar earrings?
Speaker 6 (41:07):
Yeah, huh no, there ain't.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
No, I'm worried. I'm worried it's gonna be, you know,
walking past, like, oh hey, I like that the store
with the Tiffany's with the blue I like that one.
That's that's when it's okay, all right, we're leaving. So
that's that's what I gotta be, Dad, We're leaving. We're
leaving too.
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
All three phases. We got the big plays on special teams, unit,
big plays on defens offensively sputtering out. We have to
be able to finish drives. We have to be able
to eliminate the penalties and put ourselves in position to
come away with points. You know, this is a game
where I got to look at everything that we're doing
and make sure I'm doing the right things to prepare
a team.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
And now, along with Jim Zochi and Eugene Robinson, here's
a Niche Shroff with Panther Talk live from the Panthers
broadcast facility at Bank of America Sterio.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
On this Monday. It's another edition of Panther Talk and
e shroffch Zochi, Eugene Robinson and we're joined as always
by Panthers head coach Dave Canalis. Let's start with this, Dave,
just the last two weeks, how do you process Atlanta
and New England side by side?
Speaker 4 (01:07):
To start off you know, two great weeks of practice
where the communication, the execution, the anticipation of what's coming
really in all phases has grown. And to see the
disparity of the result from a thirty to zhering day
where the Falcons did give us the ball three times
(01:29):
and then the flip side of giving up the big punt,
explosive plays, losing the field position, battle, an offense not
being able to sustain. And I look at the two
weeks in the preparation and the process, I look at
the execution and I'm like, Okay, we need to be
able to carry this over consistently and go out there,
(01:50):
play with each other, execute the way we know how
to be a competitive team. And that's the part that
we're after this week, and the conversations are around how
do we maintain that type of that level of consistency
and carryover.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
You have been on great teams, super Bowl teams with Seattle.
When you find that consistency, what does it look like.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
It's the players and it's routine, it's the process, but
it's the player's ownership of what we're doing. It's the
player's care and focus for how to execute together, holding
each other accountable. It's not enough to show up and
go to meetings, walk through and practice. They got to
(02:32):
talk beforehand, in between afterwards and be on the same page.
While we set the foundation, we give the information, we
ask the players to trust us with that part of it.
Then when you really hone in on the details and
it really becomes important, you can see the dialogue happening
with the players out there. How do we iron this
(02:52):
thing out? I think it's better if we move this out, Coach.
Can we move this out of yard?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
You know?
Speaker 4 (02:56):
And it's that give and take where it becomes special
and that's what I'm seeing grow. But we have to
be able to carry that over from the week to
the game.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
And Coach, you know, we've always lived by this twenty
four hour rule. And I would tell you, honestly, sometimes
in twenty four hour rule, when I've lost the game,
it would live. It will stay with me a little
bit longer than twenty four hours. I wonder, what is
your ruling? Does it stick with you? Does it twenty
four hours? Does it mean you just move on or
do as you go through the week? Do things just
(03:25):
come up in the minds? Oh, we should have done that.
We should have done that.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
I think it's the reaction to whether you want or
lost that you need to move on from. But there
are so many lessons in every game that is the
greatest teacher. The greatest teacher is we are exposed by
the camera and by this opponent that we're playing, and
we see what we can do well, and we see
what we need to work on, and those are the
lessons that.
Speaker 6 (03:47):
You have to take with you. You have to.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Address the things that you need to improve on in
that week. So and you have to capture the things
that worked well, what worked well for us, and we
have to be able to build off of and correct
the things that showed up in the last game. So
that part doesn't go away from a technical standpoint, it's
just the feeling of whether you want or loss that
(04:11):
you need to quickly move on from because it's going
to take all of your energy to be able to
play an NFL opponent week to week. It requires all
of your focus. You can't lose emotional energy based on
the outcome of a last game to be really focused
on the improvement that you're looking for week to week.
Speaker 7 (04:27):
In a week like this, we heard from Derek Brown
obviously che will howboard, you got some real team leaders
in there. Did you like the response? So the players
receiving the message you were giving them after this game
in terms of getting things corrected and the players taking
that ownership.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Absolutely, they're accountable. The coaches are accountable as well. We
have to look at ourselves. We have to evaluate all
of our processes. We have to evaluate the players are
putting out there. We have to evaluate our scheme, the
core tenants, the things that allow us to have success.
What are we playing that's been most successful or most consistent,
and can we hone in on those things and get
(04:59):
really good at those things?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Injuries hit you guys pretty hard in that game on
Sunday at receiver with no J T. Sanders at tight end?
Offensive line, can you give us a snapshot of the health.
I know you don't know everything, but a quick snapshot
of where you guys are from a health standpoint.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
You know, we just count on the next guys to
come in there and execute. And you know, regardless of
who that is, we still have a bunch of players
out there that play at a high level. And those
guys also have to bring them along and give them
the confidence you can come in here, you can do it.
Speaker 8 (05:30):
We're counting on you.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
You've put in the work and let's go. You know.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
That's really the mentality that we take coach.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
How easy or how hard is it to correct things
on the field, particularly when we looked at the put
return and then we see another part return, How hard
is to correct that on the field in real time?
Speaker 4 (05:45):
I think the importance is not to overcorrect, you know.
The there are fundamental principles that we teach. There's a
fundamental way that we try to create group tackling, and
we just have to be disciplined about that because the
minute you try to overcompensate for one thing, then you
get exposed in another area, and the ebb and flow
of that can be deadly, it can be really painful.
Speaker 8 (06:04):
And it's showed up on.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
The second pont return where guys are trying to make
a play, you know, and they kind of play out
of their normal spot and then we're exposed in a
different way. It happens on offense in the protection game
or in the route concept, you know, or the run
the run game with the back and it's like this
is where the run's supposed to go and if we
look for it to go somewhere else, you know, you
can get into trouble. Same thing on defense. If somebody
(06:27):
gets beat by a certain part, someone else can't try
to fill into that spot. You have to keep playing
your role. We'll correct the technique issue on the first
part of it, but those things can snowball.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
We have to be studs.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
We've got to be disciplined about just continuing to execute
our assignment.
Speaker 7 (06:41):
This is more about moving forward. But there were some
you know, sometimes you win and there's some things that
get overlooked that were negative. But in this case, there
were some good things that happened in.
Speaker 8 (06:49):
A tough loss.
Speaker 7 (06:50):
Running the ball for almost one hundred thirty yards four
and a half yards per carry, stopping the run. Those
are things that will travel forward that maybe give you
some building blocks.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Absolutely, as we continue to formulate the identity of this team,
there are things that you can learn from. Again, like
we talked about, you know that you want to carry
with you the hard lessons, for sure, but also the
positives of a new player finding a way to contribute
in some way, shape or form, whether it's special teams,
defense or on offense. You know, we're gathering a lot
of information about who we have and that's what today
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is about, is about connecting with each other as a staff,
talking to our players, and making sure that we get
the right guys out there to execute the things that
we want to get to.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
One of the things that we saw young player Ttero McMillan,
already four games into his career, teams are scheming around
him and we saw the Patriots try to do that
a little bit. What does he gain out of that
going forward for his growth?
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Just the resilience to keep playing football. You got to
just get out there and regardless of the score. At
the end of the day, you're a pro. Be out
go out there and be a star. Regardless of what
the score looks like. Just continue to perform at a
high level. Continue to find a way to battle through
things that come up with your body is you got
to find a way to just continue to work.
Speaker 6 (07:59):
And he did that for us last week.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
And coach, how does the particularly when we see the
office of line, because that is such a big part
of what you do from everything from running and throwing
the ball with the mix of the office of line,
as you move forward, how do you envision that being
and what guys you vision being there to go ahead
and help you move on, to go ahead and take
advantage of Bryce's arm and also the running game that
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you guys have.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Yeah, we gotta still work through the health of Chandlerszavalla.
We're taking a look at all that right now, and
so that'll kind of determine how we move forward. But
it's great to have a guy like Brady Christiansen who
can play up and up and down the line in
different spots. And you know, we counted on Brady to
come in and play for us last game, and so
we're just gonna have to kind of figure out how
to puzzle piece that part of it. And it's good
to have Cad, it's good to have d lou Icky
(08:46):
and Timo really in there. So we're really playing with
one spot right now.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
And does that also change your play calling and what
you're gonna do and say, okay, I might do a
little like here, well maybe we got some more emotion,
maybe maybe got some more quarterback movement.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
Does that affect you?
Speaker 4 (09:01):
It could, Yeah, it definitely could, you know, but again,
we have to figure out over the next couple of
days to see who that combination is you know, what's
a better run to run to the right versus to
the left, and try to find that good balance of that.
Speaker 7 (09:13):
God had a lot of reps and success out of
this current draft class twenty twenty five, and a lot
of folks ask us by Jimmy Horn depending on what
your needs aret receiver moving forward, what have you seen
of him so far in his growth?
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Yeah, Jimmy has been just working hard, he's been studying,
he's been he's really last week was his best week
of practice and just really giving us speed guy that
the guys love to throw to, you know. And and
right now he's going to get an opportunity, you know,
based on where we're at. So we'll get to get
Jimmy out there and and you know, have a package
for him. And also we're just counting on him, like
(09:45):
when you got when you go in there, be a
guy we can count on, you know, and play fast.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Dave, last thing for me, the splits from being at
home being on the road. You mentioned, Hey, process stays
the same, but that is one variable that changes when
you go back and you look. Is there anything that
jumps out to you, Hey, we're doing this at home
it's something that we maybe can't do on the road
because you're not here. How do you kind of compare
those two.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Yeah, we have to just continue to meet the challenge
of the communication that it takes to get out of
the huddle to be out there on time. I thought
we did a really good job of that. Outside of
a couple of snaps. There was one one headset issue
Bryce and I was kind of you know, he couldn't
quite hear it. And then pretty much from there he
operated at the line of scrimmage. He got the ball
snapped and we got the play started.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
You know.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
So that's a place where we continue to get better
and grow. But then you also just have to be
sensitive with with noise in crowds, how much movement you
do pre snap, and making sure that we can execute
the precision that those snaps require, you know, when we're
on the road.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
All right, Dave Canal's head coach of the Panthers. Back
at it week five, Week five, and week six, a
couple of home games, home cooking. Thank you, Dave.
Speaker 8 (10:56):
All Right, thanks guys, thank you coach.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
We'll be back here on the Carolina Panthers Radio NETWOR.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
This is Panther talk Ron, do you buy Bank of America?
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Speaker 3 (11:12):
And Hello any Shrop Eugene Robinson, Jim Zochi on this Monday.
I think we were all at a loss for words
after Sunday because there was so much momentum coming off
of the thirty to nothing Atlanta win. And then you
go to New England, Jim, you and I are sitting there.
First drive, Panthers march down the field, score. I know
they missed the kick. Then they get a stop, Patriots
(11:35):
go three and out, Panthers get the ball back. They're
across midfield and that was kind of the apex of
the game for the Panthers. After that, they punt return touchdown,
A couple of snowballs turned into an avalanche. Next thing
you know, you're looking up forty two to six before
a meetingless touchdown.
Speaker 8 (11:52):
Late had no inkling it was going to be that
kind of a day.
Speaker 7 (11:56):
Of course, you never do, I guess, but is after
coming off of thirty to nothing win, to just completely
flip it and basically lose by thirty points was crazy.
But it was the way that it happened, and it
did begin with like it was one point, but that
ominous dooink off the left up right, and then later
a missed field goal, and then obviously we know the
return of a punt for a touchdown. Another one that
(12:18):
would it could have should have if not for Sam
Martin the punter tackling meant the fourteen yard line, Trevor
Etn fielding a punt at the three, and we begin
to drive at the one and then we end up
having to kick out of that Eugenius like there's so
it wasn't even like hitting yard. It was obvious yardage
is supposed to hitting yards. But the points means if
you edited that up as far as just the points,
it's like four touchdowns when you look at the field
(12:40):
position and the direct points and the points left on
the table by Miskicks put it all together, I mean,
in a game like that, and then of course your
spirit gets broken at some point because it's insurmountable. It
just was that avalanche like a Niche was saying that,
like just mathematically, just so many points were given up.
Speaker 8 (12:56):
I'm not putting all of it on that, but that was.
Speaker 7 (12:59):
That was if you're gonna prioritize what went wrong, that
that's the priority with a special team.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
It only stressed the emphasis of special teams because as
you play on offense, you play on defense, you really
consume with that. And typically defensive players, you're gonna be
on the part return team, you're gonna be on a
on on the kickoff team, and you're gonna have some
type of role, but you never expect that that's gonna
yield touchdowns. You don't expect that. You don't expect that
(13:25):
when you pump the ball that the guy's gonna go
ahead and score a testout pick up sixty yards, you
don't you say, okay, twelve yards, thirteen yards, fourteen yards,
someone to keep it at a minimum. Those were game
changing places. And then when you're fielding a ball, you
have a rule not to fill the ball. You know,
if the ball goes over your head and a ship
(13:47):
bounced into the end zone of the.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Five yard row, explain that when are you supposed to
fare catch? And when do you let it bounce over you?
Speaker 5 (13:54):
So you're typically at the eight yard line, that's the
furthest that you go because if the ball bounces, the
ball is over your head and you can't field it,
typically it will bounce more than likely in the end zone.
Off the first bounce right, it'll trickle in the end zone.
But you're never supposed to feel the ball, and particularly
if you're in a five yard line. You're never supposed
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to feel the ball on a five yard line because
everybody's running at you. You can slip, you can, There's
too many things that can go wrong. Don't forget if
you do absolutely nothing on the punt return, do absolutely nothing.
You retain the ball, right, You retain the ball, and
the ball has a chance of going inside, going and
being a touchback. And so the half etn slip and
(14:37):
fall boom down there. Now you just gave the other
team momentum. I'm like, crazy momentum, Like you're backed up
and you can't go anywhere. We can let the dogs eat,
we can come after you. I hope your quarterback drops
back for a pass. We're gonna put in the airs back,
that's what you're thinking. So there's a lot of things
that go wrong, and you don't expect it to happen
on special teams. You always expect that to be clean.
(15:00):
I don't expect to hit a ball to go doink
off the walls. That I don't expect that, and so
from that standpoint, there were too many eras that happened
special teams wise, that was.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
Too hard to overcome, my thought, and it really miss
with a psyche.
Speaker 8 (15:11):
And I think again some of those are person else.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
Summer now, Trevor Hten has been doing the puttwa turns
and he struggled the previous game and we had a
big enough lead or didn't matter in the Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
And then he had one of the preseason too, yeah, preslide.
Speaker 7 (15:22):
So he started to question he had what even caught
yesterday was up on his shoulder pad and then.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
That's a hard ball. That is really hard ball to catch.
You gotta be really skilled to catch putt returns. It's
very very skilled. You can't be I don't want to
kickoff return people to do it because they're not as
skilled as a receiver learning to catch the ball and
doing that.
Speaker 7 (15:42):
So maybe just to settle do you just like do
like a hundred renfro like we ended up doing the
game yesterday, just to settle things down a little bit.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
That's exactly what you do.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
I would say, Man, the putt return is a very
hard I did putt return and I could catch it,
but there's a skilled level to watching the ball.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
And how do you catch the ball?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
You wonder too, if that's a young player who was
known as a dynamic game breaking type in college comes
to the NFL. He's a rookie, he is a clear
number three on the running back depth chart. Those are
your opportunities. So instead of hitting singles, fair catch, letting
the ball bounce, just doing what's required. It almost feels
(16:18):
at time it's a young player trying to do too much,
trying to make that home run play when it's not necessary.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Yes, I think so, I think just getting in as
a young player, you saying like this, that ball comes
to me. Boy, you wait, when I get this ball,
I'm about to go ahead and make things happen.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
I bet you. He thinks he thinks that way, and
he should think that way.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
However, the skill level to catch a punt return is
different from catching it in kickoff return, totally different.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
One other thing, and this is one trend which I've
been tracking over the four games. It's good and bad
because when you look under the hood, this Panther team
can move the football. We have seen it two thirds
of their possessions if you don't count end of half
Neil down types two thirds of their possessions, Carolina advances
(17:09):
past the fifty yard line. Now their scoring rate can
be a lot better on those. I think we all
know that yesterday they score on their first drive. The
next six possessions or not the next six possessions, but
six times after this they get into enemy territory and
don't score, and then they get one on the final drive.
(17:29):
You look at why explosive plays or the lack thereof,
and we saw New England, Jim. They had a couple
of drives where they marched down the field and it
was twenty yards here, twenty two yards here. The big
explosives allow you to score quickly. And it's not about
scoring quickly as much as okay, if it's going to
take thirteen to fourteen plays, now there's more opportunities for
(17:52):
things to go wrong, penalty negative play, and that's been happening,
it seems, once they get across the fifty yard line.
So again from a personnel standpoint, Dave Canals might be
challenged because he's got some injuries to dial with this,
but the lack of explosive plays, I think if you
find just a couple of more per game. Some of
those drives turn into scoring drives. No, it's a good point.
Speaker 7 (18:13):
It's ironic that New England was doing that because prior
to that game, they'd only attempted attempted five passes up
twenty plus yards in the air, and they had a couple,
not a lot, but they had a couple of. Yes,
say some of those were catching runs or just runs.
I went for twenty so they count as big chunk plays,
but they weren't in the air that long. And for
the Panthers, like, yeah, you could Teterero Macmillan can do that,
but they start shading a second you know, safety over
(18:34):
which we saw them doing right now. They're gonna say, okay,
try to beat us with you know, on our renfro,
try to beat us with Tremaine. So they have to
and then or Tommy Tremble and those guys had opportunities.
They did some good things when the ball came their way,
but you can't live on that. It's like those are
kind of things where you can get by for a
series or two, not for four quarters. So you do
need explosive players and game breakers to make it easier
(18:54):
to get big chunk plays.
Speaker 8 (18:55):
We saw it happen last year.
Speaker 7 (18:57):
It's it's too bad that Jalen Coker got hurt as
soon as Adam Feeling got traded. So the Feeling trade
made sense in the big picture, But then the timing
of Jaalen Cooker getting hurt right after that, you lost
essentially two starting wide receivers at the same time. I
feel like we've been trying to catch up ever since then.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
And that's why I think coach wants to go ahead
and employ jac Horn. Jimmy Horn, I mean Jimmy Horn,
Jesse Jesus is coming back, Jimmy Horn because of the speed.
Because here is as a defensive back, when you're going
against the tight ends and you're going against guys who
are not the guy.
Speaker 6 (19:27):
You have one guy that's who's the guy. McMillan.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
You're not worried at all. You're not sitting there going, oh,
he's not gonna beat me. I'm not worried about his speed.
You're not worried one bit. And then you can tell
you guys, hey, man, go ahead and blits this guy.
Ll Pinier's back. We got this, We got this in
the secondary and so not having someone Jimmy Horn like,
who's explosive, who can run? I mean, that's a that
(19:52):
changes that changes the game, even if your role is
just running down the field, going through the zone with
a free safety.
Speaker 6 (19:59):
Have to take two people out.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
The now, I understand. Right for those out there who
are taking the glass half empty approach, We've said it
on the show before, the Panthers have to earn back
a little bit of the benefit of the doubt. You're
sitting here at one in three. I think we expected
a better start given the schedule. Silver lining is they
(20:20):
looked really good at home last week. And you can
poop poo it all you want, but Miami and the
Jets play tonight on Monday Night football. Yep, so Miami
is going to be coming off a short week. That
is a team right now that has some distractions surrounding
the future of their head coach, certainly around Tyreek Hill,
their star wide receiver. But they have a lot of
speed and Eugene Dave Canalis when he sat here said, hey,
(20:43):
identity of this team, who are we? We want to
be physical, we want to be violent. It almost feels
to me this is an opportunity to get right from
an identity standpoint, go be physical. What do finesse teams? Hey,
when you guys played the forty nine ers, that was
a finesse team. Yeah, and you guys beat the snot
out of them with that Fritz Shermer defense.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
Exactly, because first of all, we will always say like this, look,
I don't care about all how pretty.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
It ain't look right. We're gonna punch them in the mouth.
That's exactly what you do. You punch him in in
the mouth. Legally, you get after it. And so here
it is. I like the fact that legally, you know,
but that's exactly what you do. You get after these
guys right there.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
And so I like the fact that I think our
our character of our team is we're violent, were legally violent,
We get after you. Well, go ahead and get after
them against when they come in here, bust them up
in the mouth legally, punch them in the mouth legally,
and don't and you don't have to apologize for it.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
The other part, though, you still have to go and
do it.
Speaker 7 (21:44):
Yeah, if you're with all of a sudden, it's sixty
yards the other way. So you do have to not
miss on that, say, press coverage or whatever you.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
Can exactly or when you're or when you're going to
the sideline, you know the guy's going to going towards
the sideline, Stay up, don't dive down, and then push
them out of bounds.
Speaker 6 (21:59):
That's the easy play. You don't have to make the
big hits.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
You've got to make the biggest when the biggests come
to make the biggest you don't have to make a
big hit every single time.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
All Right, we'll talk more about Miami a little bit later.
We still have Jim Zokie's interview with former Panther dB
Trey Boston that's still ahead on the Carolina Panthers Radio Network.
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Speaker 7 (22:33):
Former Panthers safety Tray Boston was part of the Super
Bowl fifty team for the Panthers as he played here
from twenty fourteen to twenty sixteen. He's had a broadcasting
career since his retirement in football, and we'll see what
he's talking about these days with Trey Boston.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
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Speaker 7 (22:58):
You can't talk about twenty fifteen without twenty fourteen, right
because the way you guys finished out on that winning streak,
win five in a row counting that playoff victory after
starting got three eight and one win the division. And
let's talk about that before we get into twenty fifteen.
Tray as far as what that meant for you as
a young player just coming into the league at a
first up, sure, you're thinking, Wow, my coach bike get
(23:19):
fired and it's just going sideways and we're in Minnesota
and it's minus nine degrees and it's not going well.
And then somehow out of that this team went on
kind of a year and a half unbelievable run after that.
Speaker 9 (23:30):
Yeah, I mean it was amazing. Again coming into that season,
I had started actually on pup because I had to
have surgeon off season coming off rookie Minnie Camp. But
when I got back it was I want to say
Game six Cincinnati, that was my first time being able
to run down the field, don't kickoff, and then by
game nine I was back. But like you're saying it
(23:51):
was around like game twelve is when we got to clicking,
and that was mine and Bene ben Wickery's I want
to say, first start together with Roman Harper and Josh Norman,
and then we just got to flowing. I think we're
at a we were at a point in that season
where we just need to figure out things and get
them going. Hey, put these young guys in and see
(24:13):
what they got, because we don't got anything left. We
got a division that we uh, it's maintainable, we can
go get it. And the biggest thing then was just
allowing us to know, you know, coach, we had great
faith in Coach revere Man. No matter what was going on,
we always had faith in and he would come to
the locker room and the team meeting rooms and let
us know, like, guys, we're not out of it, Like
(24:34):
we're not out, Like we can win these next five
games and win the division if you guys played good ball.
And that's exactly what we did. Went out there. We
knew that we you know, we didn't have no chips
on our backs or anything. We knew after we could
have fun, and that's exactly what we did. I had
so much fun during those games because you're telling the
young Trey Boston, like, hey, go be yourself, go make plays.
Whether it's interceptions, whether it's big hits, whether it's making mistakes.
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You're just allowing us to play freely, and the Vets
would just make up for it. And that's what drove
us into that all season of having that charisma, that chemistry.
And now you go into a twenty fifteen all season
where guys are clicking, we know we have we add
a few more key veterans that really changed the game.
(25:19):
I think veterans is where a lot of this league
club when it comes to building rosters. I mean I
could name five six guys who were past year twelve.
You know, guys who you would you can claim washed up.
But when you put them together and they know exactly
what they're doing, mix them in with some young guys. Man,
it's a special recipe.
Speaker 7 (25:38):
Take us into that secondary group, the thieves avenue. Because
you mentioned some of them already. Josh Norman had his
career year, which turned into his big payday the next
year in going to his next stop with Washington. But
you mentioned already put Tillman, who unfortunately got hurt right
at the end of that regular season, Kurt Coleman, yourself,
Roman Harper, great group of players collectively.
Speaker 8 (25:58):
What was it like to be a part of that
second Oh?
Speaker 9 (26:00):
I mean we still talk to this day. I mean
to be a part of that secondary was amazing. You
had a veteran in Roman Harper who was just cool, calm, collective.
I think the same thing for Kirk. Kirk gave us
a jolt of energy. I think Kurt was the very
first person in my life where I'd ever lost my
spot too. And it wasn't because I've just played bad.
It's because he came in and played so well that
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it allowed me to take a back seat and learn
from I think a lot of young guys can learn
from that, you know, adversity and then learning when is
your time and playing your role because you know, I
put pressure on the team to hey, you gotta play me.
When do you do it? Okay, with third down, let's
just throw them in there, Roman Harper, We're going to
take a veteran off the field. We're gonna move Kurt
(26:41):
to strong safety and free We're gonna put in trade
because we know he can go get that ball like
that's how you take advantage of your role and being
a part of that secondary. That's exactly what we did.
You know, everybody played a role. Josh Norman was bigger
than Josh Norman had ever been. And that's because guys,
we trusted each other, We loved each other. Our chemistry
(27:02):
was through the roof. And that's why to this day,
we still talk, we still communicate, we still go to
each other's events. I'll be at kirk Coma's event, uh
and in two days golfing with his you know charity.
You know, for us, that's that year was It's the
pinnacle of like brotherhood. You know, thieves have creating something
that the Carolina Panthers nation still talks about thieves like
(27:25):
they're still dying for what we once had. And and
you know, we we we want to leave that tradition here.
We want to leave a legacy. And that's what we did.
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Speaker 3 (27:59):
All right, this Monday Night will be on the Dolphins
and Jets because those are a couple of upcoming opponents
for the Panthers. Miami this week. Then Dallas comes to
Bank of America Stadium, and then the Panthers go not
to New York but to East Rutherford and New Jersey
to play the Jets. Jets, Jets, Jets. Miami is interesting,
they're winless. The Jets are winless, But let's stick with
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Miami Eugene because that's the Week five opponent for the Panthers.
Miami will be coming off a short week. When you
watch that offense, right to his big strength as he
gets rid of the ball. So yes, the worry on
the Panthers end. There wasn't much of a pass rush
against New England. They only have really what two sacks
in four games. One of those sacks was really a
(28:43):
tackle on a scrambling quarterback at the line of scrimmage,
which goes down as a sack. That happened in the
New England game with Turk Wharton, So technically a sack.
How do you disrupt too? Ay, it just feels this
could be kind of the oh yeah, we've got Derek
Brown game if it goes well for the Panthers.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
You know, I'm looking for coaches Jero to do this.
I really believe that you have to get in the
quarterback's face and you have to let him know that
you're blitzing. And then of course he's gonna go, I
got tyreek, you're gonna.
Speaker 6 (29:17):
Make it the ball. I got guys.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
I can throw the ball too, but you're gonna make
him make a decision right now. And so what I
would love to see I would love to see not
only dB Derrick Brown go ahead and have a great game,
but I would love to see those linebackers pressing the
issues in those gaps and say, hey, we're gonna go
and blitch you, and we're gonna let you know. And
we're gonna tell our guys on the outside, Jack and
(29:41):
JC and Smith Wade hold up on the outside.
Speaker 6 (29:44):
We're gonna ask you to hold up.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
And I believe having that where whenever we would blitz
for at the Green Bay Packers way back in the day,
man Larroy Butler will get right up in the gap
and he's let you know, I'm coming through this gap, dude,
all right. And and then Bernardo Harris middle lineback. We're
coming right through this gap, but we're gonna let you know,
all right, and what do you do? Doom called doom.
We're getting all these different calls. They're making all these
(30:07):
different checks, and now on the backside, we're like, okay,
we got him, all right. Our guys can get to him.
We just got to hold the line for two seconds.
We can get it because those guys can get to him.
And I'm just saying that's something that I haven't seen
a lot of. I would like to see more of that,
because I think we have the personnel to go ahead
and get after people, get after the and don't let
(30:29):
tua like Drake May did. Don't let him sit back
there because he sit back there's Oh I'm telling.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
You, he's too good.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
He's too good.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
He'll he'll end up eviscerating your secondary and your linebackers
if you let him sit back there comfortably.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
Yeah, Drake May had a day and he took He's
bigger too, so he could take off and run a
little bit. To me, the biggest X factor is a
chan because you know that he's he's completely healthy going
into this game tonight, and he's a guy that could
catch a hundred passes in a season, so you have
to talk about the dual threat. Doesn't play with the
physicality of Christian McCaffrey, but he's that kind of back
where he could run for a hundred He could catch
(31:04):
a hundred yards worth of passes in this game. So
you have to have a play and to kind of
keep him containing because you could do a lot of
good things on first and second down, say, and then
third Duck could blow up and he makes a big
play if he gets loose.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
What you need to do with a chan. We saw
this when Miami played Buffalo. Did you see the hit
Shaq Thompson? Yeah, out on a chan? Yeah you sent
it to us. Yeah, Jack Thompson, I mean laid the
lumber on a chan. And again, you guys have been
in the spot. Eugene. You played on a physical Packers defense.
You've played on physical defenses. You get a finesse team.
He can play bully ball. And again, you're not trying
(31:38):
to hurt anybody. But I think we all know to
his injury history exactly, he's probably not going to put
himself in harm's way. When we've watched the Dolphins be successful.
If you give the quarterback time, and you give the
receiver space. He gets rid of the ball quickly and
the run after catch can be lethal. But if you
can affect him, if guys like Derek Brown, Turk Wharton
(31:59):
blow the play up from the inside all of a sudden,
that scrambles to it, because we've also seen if there's pressure,
he often can't get to that second read.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
You know, and here it is.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
And I would be really clear because you're not trying
to hurt anybody. That's I've never gone into a game
trying to hurt anybody. I've all gone to the game.
I'm gonna hit you as hard as I can within
the within the framework of the rules, and so legally, legally,
actually actually legally, that's exactly what everybody does, right, and
so we ununderstand that that's part of what we kind
(32:31):
of sign up for, not really, but kind of we do.
And so we understand that's part of the landscape of it.
And so I'm blessing my I'm blessing my guys because
within the framework of the rules, I can and I
want to get the quarterback on the ground as much
as I can legally.
Speaker 7 (32:47):
In Miami, we don't know what their game will be
like tonight against the Jets, but they could come in
being a very desperate team and a coach, you know,
fighting for his future because he's been there for a
while and it started out kind of sizzling and then
it kind of just fizzled since that time because of
what they're running out there, which is his system there.
So it's gonna be a desperate team when they come
in here. So we'll see how they do tonight, obviously,
(33:08):
what their health looks like coming out of this game
against Steve Wilkes's defense with the Jets, that's always a
physical challenge.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
And what about Tyreek?
Speaker 5 (33:16):
I mean Tyreek he wants that spotlight, He wants that
he wants those eyes to be on him because he
believes that he's one of the best receivers in the
league and so he wants to be able to prove that.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
If you're the Dolphins, though, and you're coming into Carolina
after this Monday night and you see the Panthers, hey
they're one and three and they've had defensive struggles against
New England and Jacksonville the first half against Arizona, how
would you attack?
Speaker 5 (33:43):
So knowing that we've struggled. We've been able to stop
the run, but we can't stop the pass. The pass
has really been it's been one of the bane of
existence that we've had here. I don't know why that
we don't put more pressure on the quarterback to stop that.
And because we haven't, I think that they're gonna believe. Okay,
(34:07):
well they do a four man rush like they've done, Okay,
we'll cool. We'll keep five in the block, all right,
have the have the running back sit back here and
pick up somebody and then scoop out, and then we'll
see what we can do on the outside. And if
they're in a zone, hopefully we can throw behind the zone,
because that's what they've been able to do, And if
they sit back far in the zone like I would
(34:29):
expect they're gonna do, we'll throw underneath on something underneath.
And so from that standpoint, it's that's why blitzing, I
think is one of the best things that you can do.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
Because it makes you make a decision right now.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Yeah, Jim. And offensively, the difference in the three losses
versus the one win in the second half, the Panthers
were able to stay in their offense. I know they
ran the ball a little bit in the second half
against New England. That was partly because those who are
where the bodies were, the extra tight ends. The receiving
room was down and that was late. Once the game
was over Jacksonville, Arizona. Dave Canalis out here and said,
(35:03):
we had to go in the shotgun. We had to
throw because of the score, big deficit at halftime. Stay
in the game in that first half and look like
we were doing that with New England before things snowballed.
You stay in the game. That's more Chewba, that's more
Rico Dowbtle, that's more play action.
Speaker 7 (35:17):
It was so unexpected what happened in special teams because
they were so good. They probably the best special teams
performance in the league the week before. So hopefully it's
a one off anomaly and to your point, it will
keep the game close no matter what happens between the
offenses and defenses. As important as that third phase is,
I would like to I talk about this a little
bit in the postgame yesterday, Eugene, is that you know,
(35:38):
we our best, deepest, healthiest skill position group is running back.
We talked about ETM maybe struggling a little bit in
the punt return game. But you've got a sable of
three running backs there, and those short swing passes and
screens could be extension of the running game that also
help you in the past game when you don't have
all your allotment at tight end and receiver right now,
like JT. Sanders is out, number of receivers are out.
(35:58):
I wonder if they could featured the and kind of
rotate them in a little bit more as far as
making them two dimensional, as far as catching more passes
in addition to the running that they do.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Absolutely this one thing I like about having backs who
are really accomplished, who can block. But if you hit
them on the screen, get the draw going on, get
some movement with the quarterbacks and throw back to the
running back, they're deadly because guess what happens if you
send all the receivers down the field. You know, it
goes with all the people down the field, all the
(36:27):
secondary and the linebackers, and now you got something that's
one on one with a movement type of thing of
brush out of the pocket, boom, throwing back on, throwing
back across the field to you know, behind the line
of scrimmage. I'm telling you those plays, they they work,
and particularly with your guys a doubto man my goodness
or Tube at TN. They're two good You can't stop them,
(36:50):
and I can't expect one linebacker or safety to make
an open field tackle every single time. And so I
like the fact that you can go screen draw. I
would do things of that nature to get our backs
more involved.
Speaker 6 (37:04):
In what's going on.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Two consecutive home games with a chance to hopefully get
to five hundred before the trip to East Rutherford to
take on the Jets. It starts on Sunday with the
Dolphins coming to Bank of America Stadium. You can watch
the Dolphins against the Jets, who are the Week seven opponent,
tonight on Monday Night Football. We're back here on the
Carolina Panthers Radio Network.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Panther Talk continues on the Carolina Panthers Radio Network.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
An A. Schroff, Jim Zochi, Eugeeter Robinson. We're all dad's
sitting around here, need a little fatherly advice here. My
daughter today, for her eighth birthday, wants to go to
the South Park Mall to get her ears pierced. Oh,
it's kind of one of those moments we're're going, say
eight or eighteen eight eight, and I'm kind of sitting there, going,
(37:53):
all right, you're growing up. You're grown up in like
the protective dad veneer. The claws are out.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
Yeah, but you gotta let her get an air pierce.
That's a big that's like a rite of passage. That's
a big thing I do. Yeah, that's a big thing.
Speaker 6 (38:07):
Typically, say what my wife did. She got my daughter's
ears pierce when she was a baby. Okay, I'm like,
why are you doing he baby?
Speaker 5 (38:15):
She says, because she won't even know, And she kept
little studs in her ear so that she's always had
her ears pairs. But I know that was a ride
of passes for my sisters, getting the ears pairs at
you know, eight, nine, ten years old.
Speaker 8 (38:25):
Watch out for nine. That's a tattoo year.
Speaker 6 (38:30):
No tattoo. No, you can't get no tattoos, but you
can't get your ears pierce.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Well, listen, she she had a tattoo on her face
about a week ago when they were at the Panthers. Yeah, okay,
with Panthers tattoos.
Speaker 6 (38:41):
It's different.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
But it was funny over the summer. Over the summer
she's got like a little friend from her neighborhood. They
go and they go see a movie together. My wife's
taking them. We're in Houston for the preseason game. And yeah,
this young man sitting next to her puts the arm
rested up.
Speaker 6 (38:58):
Oh no, not in the RUSS.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Not the rest.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Go ahead, puts the armrest.
Speaker 6 (39:03):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
So I get this text maybe an hour before the game,
and I'm going, yeah, you tell him to put that
armrest down. Well, they want to share their popcorn. I
don't care.
Speaker 6 (39:12):
I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Well, the good news was last thirty forty minutes of
the movie, something sad happened. It was one of these
Disney movies. And he starts to shed some tears. Okay,
And she said, hey, it's going to be okay, don't worry.
And I said, it is going to be okay, don't worry.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
Yeah, every parent, especially when you have daughters, that's a
big thing. As for dad, but you learned to go
ahead and grow with them. And I would just tell
you just love on your daughter. Just love on your daughter,
and when she cries, pick her up and tell it's going.
Speaker 6 (39:48):
To be all right, and be all right.
Speaker 7 (39:49):
My daughter's late twenties and last Saturday, as I'm driving
out to ECU to do a game, I get a
text message and it's a text message picture of her
hand with a ring on it. Oh wow, she's had
the same boyfriend for a long time.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Congratulations.
Speaker 7 (40:02):
Yeah, so they're gonna get married next year. But I mean,
in my head, she is the age of what you
just described. I still in my head, I picture eight
year old Holly.
Speaker 8 (40:11):
It's just in my head. It's just like I can't
believe it's twenty years later, essentially.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
So you're watching the whole timeline. Yeah, as you're heading
to Sue plays through your head. Yeah, because they're always
your little girl. Eugene knows the same thing. It's like,
my daughter is thirty eight years old, is she still
my little girl?
Speaker 5 (40:27):
I still see her as Britney, my little daughter, but
you know, and I know she's a woman, but I
still see her is that way.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Yeah. They all grow up, Things change, things evolve. Panthers
have a game on Sunday against Miami. We're hoping Carolina
can take that next step.
Speaker 5 (40:44):
And when you compliment your dough on her ear rings,
well she's gonna think it's the biggest thing.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
It's gonna be a big thing. I'm not worried about that,
you know what. I'm worried about. What's that, Daddy? I
want to buy these?
Speaker 6 (40:54):
Here?
Speaker 8 (40:57):
Get her the starter set.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Like if we go to what's the junk earring store
they have at the mall?
Speaker 6 (41:03):
None of them?
Speaker 3 (41:04):
But go ahead, you know where you buy the five
dollar earrings?
Speaker 6 (41:07):
Yeah, huh no, there ain't.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
No, I'm worried. I'm worried it's gonna be, you know,
walking past, like, oh hey, I like that the store
with the Tiffany's with the blue I like that one.
That's that's when it's okay, all right, we're leaving. So
that's that's what I gotta be, Dad, We're leaving. We're
leaving too.
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