September 30, 2024 • 41 mins
This week on Panther Talk, Anish, Jim and Eugene talk with Dave Canales, Taylor McGregor and Ryan Kalil about the Panthers week 4 loss to the Bengals, this weekend's game against the Bears and so much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:18):
Here's the snap, Juba up the middle, crashing touchdown Carolina.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yeah, we didn't lose anything today. This was a this
is an NFL football game. Came down to a couple
of plays that made the difference. So for us, we're
gonna go back look at this tape and there's gonna
be things that we're gonna say, Man, if we would
have just done that, the outcome could have been different.
We fought and we just came up short.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
And now, along with Jim Zochi and Eugene Robinson, here's
a Niche Shruff with Panther Talk live from the Panthers
broadcast facility at Bank of America Stereo.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Wake me up when September ends, That is actually tomorrow.
Panthers through the first month of the season. October call
it Red. October begins in Earnest on Tuesday, the Bears
on the road next weekend. Panthers falling a little short
over the weekend to the Cincinnati Bengals. Let's bring in
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the head coach of the Carolina Panthers, as we always do,
Dave Canalis and Dave we talked about it a little
bit on the postgame show too, and you mentioned it
at your press conference today. When you go back and
watch the tape, it felt like there were some opportunities
for this game to be had and two three plays
could have swung the outcome.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Absolutely, you know, definitely, you know, finished our film sessions
talking to the players, talking to the staff, and just
sick about the opportunities that we had out there. The
opening drive, you know, giving them an interception early in
their territory with the really nice rush by Trey Hendrickson.
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But again just you know, two big plays defensively that
I felt like we could have controlled, you know, making
our tackles, playing our leverage offensively, you know, just some
near misses on balls down the field, but the run
efficiency was there. We played the run well, defensively responded
in the second half, you know, really you know, holding
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them down to field goals there to give our offense
a chance to work back into the game. And there
we were four minutes to go down a touchdown, you know,
and we couldn't get it done. You know, we didn't
execute enough to finish the way we want to. But
some things to build off of, and also just some
things to look at and say, man, you know, if
we're going to be playing winning football against good football teams,
we got to execute all across the board.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Coach, looking at the offense averaging four hundred plus yards
the last two weeks. What has allowed this offense to
to get unlocked and get in sync.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
It starts off with the run game. It's about it's
happened up front again, you know, just the efficiency and
the run game putting us into favorable third downs, you know,
and we were in those third and medium or short
areas you know, throughout the game. We were seven of eleven.
That's a great day. We put ourselves into some longer
situations with some pre snap penalties, a couple of false starts,
but starts off with the run game and that allows
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us then to take shots down the field off our
play actions, which we hit a couple and we missed
a few. You know, we got to take advantage of
those one on one opportunities when we have them. But
it all starts up front.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
You've coached obviously, quarterbacks, receivers, different position groups throughout the years,
and EO. Wes coaches sometimes, you know, what do you
do about dropped passes? Especially with your five games into
a season something like that. They said, catch the ball
is the obviously answer. But is there a in this
game as you look at it in situations like that
it's a different number of players. Is it a focus?
Is it try to do too much? I catch the ball,
turn and run quickly? Or what were some of the
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common threads maybe with why a number of passes were
left on the field yesterday.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Yeah, all of those things and all guys that we
have full one confidence in making those plays. These are
plays these guys can make and we expect to do
for them to do that in the future.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
And coach, where does the leadership come from? We had
Tobackers are down, and so the guys who are going
to go ahead and fill in? And when I'm also
thinking about Derek Brown not being that guy in the
middle of a d lin So where do you now
get that leadership to go ahead and galvanize this defense?
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Well, I mean you talk about you know, the first
of all, just Shack. You know, just talking about Shack,
you know, my heart goes out to the guy, somebody
that really embodies the style of football we want to play.
Just plays with such passion. He celebrates, and he's enthusiastic
about the place he makes and others make a guy
that really, you know, just plays hard the way the
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football is supposed to be played. So we're certainly going
to miss him. You know, Josie will miss a little
bit of time with some soft tissue stuff. But you know,
we have a leadership council for a reason. There's a
bunch of guys that have leadership. You know, these are
some some of the guys that we depend on, but
we have a great group of guys that really represent
what we're trying to get done on the offensive side
and the defensive side. Guys that are just emerging that
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we're excited about, you know, not just the football part
of people stepping in to see those opportunities. I love
that next man up mentality to see who we have
as we strengthen our group, but also from a leadership standpoint,
to see guys just continue to take strides and stand
for the principles more than the talk It's about the
principles of what we are. It's playing tough, it's playing
physical football. You know, all the things that we talk
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about on a weekly basis.
Speaker 7 (05:21):
And coach.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
One other question is now that like two weeks ago,
I mentioned about going into a four to three defense
and a mere's a couple of other ball players for
talking about that going in to the fourth three defense.
Now to the fact that you have a couple of
linebackers down, does that help you get to that or
you do some sort of four to three nickel type
situation to compensate for not having that many backers in.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
You know, we just stick to the program where we
believe our principles in our philosophy. It's a fantastic scheme.
Playing together, everyone owning their leverage and playing good team
football on the defensive side is what it's all about.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yeah, we're talking with Dave Canalis, the Panthers head coach.
You mentioned Shack and Josie Jewel. Shack with the achilles
tear and Josie a hamstring and a growin. Trevin Wallace
was somebody that impressed in preseason. What do you like
about him now that a bigger role is upon him
as a rookie.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
I'm excited for Trevin to get in there to communicate
the defenses, you know, getting the information from Agero. I'm
excited to see him run sideline the sideline and do
the things that we thought that he could do coming out,
you know, and his progression, as it's been gradual, now
gets a step up and he gets to just do
his part. That's it. We don't expect him to try
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to make all the plays. Just make the plays that
come to you. And that starts off with just getting
the call in and owning your leverage, being in the
right position in the run of the pass game.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Another thing that gets into your depth is when guys
have to step up and the next man up they start,
and then so when it's further down becomes the backup.
What does that do to your different special teams groupings
as far as you know, again prepared for all the
different special teams groupings and different people having to step in.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Great opportunity, the great opportunities for the guys particularly we
talked about the practice squad players, guys that are just
chomping at the bit to get a chance, and oftentimes
what I've seen over the years is guys get their
first ops on special teams to see if they can
make an impact and they can help the Panthers win.
So I'm excited for a bunch of guys that we're
evaluating to see if they can help us in our
coverage and return units.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
You guys had a great play call on the fake
punch and obviously didn't get to catch all the way
to completion there, but I looked I was gonna hit
for a big one there. As a staff, how do
you kind of decide those moments when they're right in
the game, Tod pull out of play like that.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
You know, it was an opportunity for us to really
can you guys hear me still? Okay?
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Yes, yeah, we got your coach?
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Okay, great, Yeah, just an opportunity for us to be
aggressive there. Just that and that fourth down we were
down two scores at the time. I love that op
and I think we'll make it the next time. And
it's also just a tribute to Johnny giving us that
flexibility to be able to do some different things in
our punt coach.
Speaker 6 (07:55):
My mentor day Brown always ascribed to some used to
always say, make the players that come to you do
you seem to ascribe to the exact same thing.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Why.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Absolutely. It keeps us from trying too hard. We want
great effort, but that doesn't mean you have to do
anything outside of what's assigned to you for that play.
If you can just own your part of it and
eleven people do that same thing, then the plays. Eugene,
as you know first and foremost, you know that those
plays will come to you when you're in the right position.
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But it all starts with effort. If you do your
job and you're heading to the ball, we say good
things come to those who run. Hip balls come up
in the air, you're in position for an overthrow or
an underthrow, and it all starts off with just trusting
to just do your part. But it also it's also
about trusting your teammate, knowing he's going to do his part.
I don't have to over extend outside of my zone,
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or I don't have to go match someone else when
I'm on three or I'm on two. Just do your
part of it defensively and offensively. It's the same thing.
You don't have to look for the big run. Those
things happen as you press the runs properly. You get
on the heels of your offensive lineman and take those
positive gains, and then when the defense starts to overplay it,
that's when you can start to crease them and get
the big ones.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Dave, you said, you've said many times that the identity
of this team will reveal itself a month into the season.
Is it fair to say that it really starts up front?
Just watching the all twenty two of the offensive line
the first four games, it seems they've played bully ball
a little bit in that physicality and toughness, the dog
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mentality you and Dan Morgan have talked about. It seems
it starts with those guys. Is it fair to say
that's where the identity is being established.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Well, that's certainly one piece of it, you know, But
it's also defensively, guys running around making big hits, punching
at the ball, you know, Xavier with the big interception,
that we're seeing glimpses and pieces of the things that
we can count on, because at some point I would
love to just open it up to the team and say, okay, guys,
what can you expect from the opposite side of the ball,
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To see what they see, to see what they might
say about their teammates, and I believe that the more
football we put on film, guys will start to make
feel really confident about what they can expect from each other.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Nobody happy with not winning, but you guys close the
gap down and you get it too. That one possession game,
and that was kind of a theme in the locker
room afterwards. Again, everyone wants that win, but there's a
confidence that comes, like the next time, that you know
you'd have that ability to come back if need be.
What did I say about Andy Dalton and the guys
and what they've been able to do in a short
amount of time in their new roles.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
It's about belief all across the organization, especially in that
locker room. Guys believing in each other, believing that if
we can just continue to play good football, we'll be
righting these games. We can finish games off like we
did in Vegas. We can play ourselves back into a
one score game this past week. It's about belief, and
there was no panic on that sideline, there was no
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panic in that locker room. It was just a sick
feeling that we let an opportunity to get away. And
I hope we keep that mentality. You know, there are
no feel good losses in this league. We play them
all to win, and the guys know. We look at
the opportunities as coaches as well, and we saw we
saw a game that got away from us, and so
we're excited to get back to work and take this
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show on the road in Chicago.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Coach, one more before we let you go. Andy Dalton's
done a nice job these last two weeks. But as
Bryce Young watches, what do you want him to watch
and observe and learn? Right now, we're.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Just growing our system. We're growing our concepts, playing good
team football, all the guys together, communicating, working through the issues.
Let's be part of the solution. And for all of
all the guys across the board is just like, let's
find solutions to the issues as they arise and just
keep honing our football.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
And coach, let me just add this to that beautiful pass,
that little pulse for that test down, the anticipation of
throwing that throwing that man open and getting ready before
he makes us break was brilliant.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
It was a beautiful throw. All starts up front, giving
him enough time to hit his back foot reset and
Deontay finishing it off with a great route and a
great catch.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Dave, we appreciate the time. Onto Chicago, onto October.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Thank you, Okay, thanks guys, thank you.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I think Dave Canalis, head coach of the Carolina Panthers,
I'm gonna echo before we go to break here what
a lot of the players said after the game. I
know it's a loss, and I know in the NFL
there's not supposed to be moral victories and you're not
supposed to take solace in defeat. There is a different feeling, yes,
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in the building and about this team after the first
two weeks, and after weeks three and four they were
down two scores in the second half. Gym, that was
a game that last year you realistically didn't feel you
had enough firepower to come back and win or even
have a chance in and hell, the Panthers were able
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to close the gap, get the ball back down by
one score with the chance to tie. It didn't work out,
But there is kind of this sense that, hey, offensively,
they can move the ball, and you don't feel like
you're out of a game. And I know the Bengals
are better than their ozero and three record going into
the game, that felt like, hey, couple of plays, the
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Panthers are sitting here at two and two, and given
where we were a year ago, I think that's a
positive movement for this franchise.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
It's a complicated game, and it's a simple game in
that you literally can't win if you don't score. And
the last two games of last year we literally did
not score, so you had no chance to win those.
Last year you could only tie and go through a
fifth period of another scoreless period. But I think you
know to your point, it's like you feel like you
know this team if it's down. They were down seventeen
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in this game, they came back. They got it down
to seven to have that opportunity to get back in
it that you didn't feel like in the first game,
even though this year against New Orleans that was a possibility.
So I think now Eugenie, you feel like you know again,
Andy's the probably the biggest reason for that. But even again,
what you don't have Adam Thielen, you didn't have Damian
Lewis yesterday, you still feel like, Okay, you've got enough
on the field here where you can mount a comeback.
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And they did, and they were in a position to
even get the ball game tied at one point. But
you take hope out of the fact that moving forward
has a lot of football to be played this season
that should that opportunity happen again, if you're behind, you're
playing with a leader, or whatever the case is, that
you can keep pressing that accelerator and putting points on
the board.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
As a player and as a coach, we've always said
sometimes when you win, you lose, and sometimes when you lose,
you win. And I would submit to you that even
though you lost, there was so many positive things out
of that game. It did not feel like last year
at all. It did not even feel like the beginning
of the season, not one bit. It felt different. And
the people in the stands felt the exact same thing.
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They don't know what they felt, but they're like, hey,
this is not the same. It's just not And when
you walk away from that game, it's a loss, but
some respect. I'm sitting there going like this, now, this
is a win. The way Chuba Hubbard runs the rock,
let me just brag about him. My goodness, dude, that
dude is like hung He's trying to run people over.
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He's taking you with him. You know, and he does
it with such ferocity. I would love to see him
get more touches in the receiving game because I'm like,
this dude is electric. Man, this dude is exciting and
it's infectious and so of once again, the way our
office has moved away. Andy Dalton's throwing guys open the anticipation.
Burrows and Andy Dalton. When you look at their stats,
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I mean, they were virtually the same. They are virtually
the same. I'm telling you, man, well, sometimes when you lose,
you win. Yeah, and I want to submit to you
that loss. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Don't forget. Cincinnati last year went nine and eight with
Joe Burrow missing the back end of the season. The
year before AFC Championship. The year before that, they were
in the Super Bowl and almost won. Yep, the Super Bowl.
It's a good Cincinnati team despite what their record was
coming into the game. We're gonna step aside. We'll hear
from Ryan Khalil later on, and then Taylor McGregor will
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join us to preview the Chicago Bears this coming Sunday.
All that ahead on the Carolina Panthers Radio network.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
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Speaker 1 (16:07):
Tools, pocket hold, Andy fires downfield, what six touchdown? Hand
zone center cut dion Ted Johnson for.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Us right now, it's about fundamental execution and being able to,
you know, know when I call this call, man, we
know where this ball's going, and to be able to
execute that way.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
And so I see.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Huge strides happening. I love seeing the run game paired
with just pushing the ball down the field, which we
got a couple of really good opportunities down there that
I would love to come away with, you know, big
explosive plays that I thought we'd missed, and of course,
like you mentioned it, just you know, just executing on
the little stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
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Speaker 1 (16:45):
Andy Dalton had another productive day for the Carolina Panthers.
In two starts, Carolina is one and one with Dalton,
he's enjoying this resurgence, this second act, if you will.
And that's been an ear theme in the NFL this season.
We've seen it with Baker Mayfield going back to last year.
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We've seen it with Jared Goff going back to last year.
We have seen it now with Sam Darnold, who looks
like a bonafide MVP candidate for the four and oh
Minnesota Vikings Geno Smith Joe Flacco a year ago, Eugene.
Does this change the way that maybe franchises might look
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at identifying who their quarterback should be? Where? I get it.
You all want to draft to Patrick Mahomes and you
want to draft to Joe Burrow, but it's hard to
find those guys even when you have a top pick
Wright or a CJ. Stroud. I get all that. Is
there something too?
Speaker 7 (17:48):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (17:49):
The guys where didn't work the first time because they
were thrown into the fire too quickly or it wasn't
the right fit. But a second act in a different
area code might be what unlocks their potential. Does that
change how you think about kind of addressing that position
as a franchise?
Speaker 6 (18:06):
It so does look like the way in trending that
way because the guys that you just mentioned, every starting
quarterback in the league or every backup quarterback in the
league has been a starter in some form.
Speaker 7 (18:19):
They've been the guy.
Speaker 6 (18:21):
They've been the guy that everybody's relied on to go
ahead and be that guy to to move the team.
They get to the NFL and it doesn't work out,
and what are they doing. They're anxious to get back
at the helm to be that guy because they've always
been that guy. They've been that hardworking person, scoring testowns
every day. That's the sexy position in football everybody and
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if you got that position, you're the guy that everybody
talks about. And so from that standpoint, I saw Bacon Mayfield.
He scored a testdown in this past week and he
threw the ball into this like the fans and he
was like ah, and he was like that was relief.
Was like, I told y'all, y'a doubted me. That's right,
y'ah doted me. I told you I'm the guy. I'm
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the real deal. So I think it's trending that way,
and I think that instead of looking for somebody that
jewel in the draft, I think that you find Andy
Dalton who was a capable quarterback or Flack who's already
been through all the stuff that you're going to go
through and check, teach people and let them go ahead
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and run the helm as you've developed some talent on
the bench.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
I've talked to a lot of coaches through the years,
and the common thing in coordinators is that you need
a quarterback to run the offense. It's like you can
talk combine stuff all day long as far as armstrang speeding. Also,
can you run the offense is by far the most
important thing. And with that you have to be an
accurate thrower of the football. So that's the most important
skill trade is accuracy and throwing the football. But you
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have to mentally run the playbook and if you don't
run it right then then nothing's going to be in
sync with that. So that's why it's good to have
a guy who's been around for a couple of years,
or if you d someone on the niche. The best
situation has had like a like a Jordan Love where
you can sit and watch for a couple of years
and then his time comes for and it doesn't have
to be five years.
Speaker 7 (20:07):
It could be you know, a year, it could be
a year and a half or whatever.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
It's probably the best scenario if you're going to take
a young quarterback, because yes there.
Speaker 7 (20:12):
Is a C. J.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Stroud, but for every C. Stroud and Jay Daniels, which
is a short sample size. If I would have thought
Trevor Lawrence but came in and just been like the
guy right, like like Hall of Fame guy, and he's
just been mediocre.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Okay, yeah, right. I look at this part of the
equation too. You know, there's a shift happening in the
NFL right now. And I'm not saying the quarterback position
is being de emphasized, but passing is down. And some
of that might be it's early in the season. It's September.
Passing yardage is down, it's been trending down. What's going
up running the football? Rushing yardage is going up. And
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you played with Reggie White, for example, how many d
ns in today's game the ends edge guys have Reggie
White's build?
Speaker 7 (20:55):
Not so many. None.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
All those guys are playing inside.
Speaker 7 (20:58):
They're playing inside.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
They're playing inside. So you have d tackles who are
not as big as they were. Guys who used to
be dns are now playing inside. A guy like Michael Srahan,
Reggie White, those guys are now Aaron Donald exactly right. Yes,
so again, smaller guys. So you get these big, beefy
offensive linemen like the Panthers kind of put together the
run game works. I'm not saying the quarterback position doesn't matter,
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but you can deemphasize it a little bit.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
Exactly, and then it makes your quarterback even that much
better because when you can run the rock, you can
pass the ball because now it's an open canvas. You
gotta go eight man front to stop the run. And
now you management on outside. And if you got Johnson
Deonta Johnson, dude, the way he moves and runs, I'm
like he's a star man. Now, dude, he's a real deal.
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And so now you get one on one situations that
receivers are begging for, like, Okay, turn me loose. I'm
about to cook this cat. I'm about to cook them
because you can run the rock.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
I think the perfect situation I know gonna break is
is somebody who is a game manager, which is a
compliment a game manager because he's managing the game. He's
not losing the game. He's performing the office away he
should be with that stud receiver. So the difference with
Sam Darnold is you've got Justin Jefferson. Now you've got
you know, one of the top two receivers probably in
the league right there, and let them catch it, pass
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and then they go be special as opposed to a quarterback.
Happen to come up with some sixty yard throw and
that they have to go run under it.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
Absolutely, that's a great example. I mean, Jefferson, if I
know I throw you to Rock, I know you're gonna
get some. Yet you're gonna go ahead and give me
another ten to fifteen. Oh you might break it. You know.
Burrow's a jamar chase.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
You think about that.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
I mean, I look at brock Purty. I look at
brock Purty. If you put Rock Purty on New England
with those receivers, I don't think he's anywhere near. They
might have been Jones again, might have been yep, right exact,
and maybe Mac Jones is that second act guy in
a better situation, a guy who had or earlease success
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Speaker 4 (23:52):
Again, We're coming together and it's the balance. It's the
balance of the runs, the actions, the quick game and
drop back. All the things that we're counting on is
really starting to take strides, you know. But we got
to finish and we got to finish plays, finish drives
and finish games on our you know, on our terms.
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at the ten, slows up, Lars's shoulder, keeps running, No
one will touch him.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
Jonathan Stewart House, is that That's what I'm talking about?
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Speaker 8 (24:29):
All right, ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to the
stew and crew. This is a special episode because I
have a teammate that's not just my teammate, I call
him my very close friend, Ryan Kalil. Ladies and gentlemen,
if you had any advice right now for any of
the guys that are currently in the Panthers locker room
(24:51):
right now, right with everything that's transpired over the last
several years, live after football, your family, man coaching, Like,
if you had anything to just kind of share with
a young guy, you know, maybe your younger self, right,
(25:14):
what would that be with everything that you've experienced.
Speaker 9 (25:16):
So far, It'd probably go back to culture. I think
culture is so incredibly important, and I think if you
want to win, if you want to be part of
a winning team, then you need to be the change.
And it really does start with yourself. It's so easy
in an NFL locker room, especially when things aren't going well,
to huddle with other guys and to start pointing fingers
(25:39):
and to start complaining and to start acting like you
have all the answers. And this is the reason why,
and that's the reason why. The harder thing to do
is to have faith and to trust and to show
up every day even when things aren't going right, and
to stay the course and to keep getting better, and
to keep having a positive attitude, and to try to
bring guys along and enjoy your time. So I think,
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you know, I probably had a couple of those seasons,
especially younger in my career. It took me a long time.
So if I could travel back in time and tell
my younger self anything, it would be to avoid the groups,
to avoid the individuals who sort of like revel and misery,
and to be the person who is the positive change,
and to be the person who's delight that comes in
(26:24):
every day and gets guys excited to go to work,
because it's incredibly hard in the NFL, going through NFL
Sunday and then coming in on Tuesday and trying to
get yourself hyped again for the week, knowing that especially
you know, you start the week off full pads and
you're trying to correct stuff from last week. You're trying
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to prepare for the next week. You've got a lot
of coaches who are who are in high pressure situations,
who a lot of people are breathing down their next
they have bosses. So I just towards the end of
my career, I started having more grace for position coaches,
especially in the fights, that they had to have to
protect their guys but also keep them accountable and try
(27:05):
to get them better. Yeah, it's easy to feel sorry
for yourself. It's easy to sort of read what everybody
thinks about the team, what everybody, what everybody's opinions are,
and to kind of jump on those trains. It's much
harder to silo yourself away from all the noise and
to keep the faith. And it's funny, we had some
of that our Super Bowl run year. When KB went down.
(27:29):
We thought, oh, that's a rap on our offense, like
our best receivers done, like that's it, And guys started
talking and I'll never forget there was a handful of guys,
including Luke, who really started the positive talk early. But
it would have been so easy for all of us
to kind of huddle at training table and to start
talking about the sky is falling and to listen to
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the punnits who are on TV that were watching saying, well,
that's a rap for the Panthers, like they're going to
struggle this season, And we did it. And all that
did was create opportunity for other guys who never got
a shot. So you just never know. Oh you never know.
But nobody ever saw us. And even I don't know
if you remember, even when we started winning, they still
wouldn't give us credit. They still kept and it said
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noise was like, this is a fluke. The teams they're
playing are not very good, Like these guys are paper tigers.
They would say it every single week.
Speaker 8 (28:18):
The wor fifteen one they kept the.
Speaker 9 (28:20):
Worst thirteen one teams. They kept trying, and the more
they did that, the tighter we got, the better positive.
Speaker 7 (28:26):
Talk we had.
Speaker 9 (28:27):
So I think it just goes to show how powerful
that is. And so that would be my advice is
to not listen to the noise, to give the people
in your circle to benefit of the doubt, and to
trust the process and not carry with you the residue
or the hangover from past seasons. You know what I mean.
It's really easy when you've had a couple bad seasons
to get into the here we go again, to really
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treat each and every season like it's its own special thing,
and to not bombard it with any kind of baggage
that you're bringing from your own expertperiances or the experiences
of other teams. But that's hard to do. That's easier
Seve than done, but it takes yourself to do it.
And then you recruit a couple guys and you just
keep conditioning guys around you, and then guys either get
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pissed and go, Okay, well you're not a realist. I'm
going to talk to somebody else, or they buy in
and they start sort of they start emulating how you're
sort of going about it, especially if you're a respected veteran.
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Panther Talk continues and Carolina gets ready for its Week
five opponent, first game in October. They head to Chicago,
one of three road games in the month of October,
and to get the loadown on the Bears, we bring
in the host of the Bears, den On, Marquis Iago Cup,
sideline reporter, ESPN college football reporter and good friend Taylor McGregor.
(30:05):
Taylor appreciate you joining us. Caleb Williams, number one pick
in the draft, Heisman Trophy winner and then the guy
picked behind him is bawling out. I feel like we've
seen this movie in Carolina just a year ago. How
has Caleb Williams dealt with the guy being picked after
him having what appears to be another one of these
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outlier rookie seasons.
Speaker 10 (30:30):
Yeah, it's funny because it's exactly that I was going
to say. I feel like Carolina fans know exactly the
story of the expectation that comes with being the number
one overall pick. And that's what Bryce Young dealt with
a year ago. That's what Caleb Williams is dealing with
this year. And look, we're four games into the season,
so I don't think it's really fair to completely judge
a quarterback by four games. The first three were up
(30:53):
and down, and it was very public that him and
some of the other key members of the offense had
a meeting with Bears offensive coordinator Shane Waldron and said,
we need different play calls out of you, We need
you to be more aggressive, we need to come up
with different personnels. That's try different things offensively. And last
or this Sunday against the Rams, we saw a little
bit of that. The key was getting the run game
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going and setting up some you know, some play action
for later on in the game. And that's kind of
what we're able to see. And Caleb had his best
game as a Bear, completed seventy four percent of his passes,
had a touchdown, no interception, So that was certainly good
to see. I think as far as dealing with the expectation,
he seems to have a lot of confidence. He's really
(31:36):
embraced Chicago. He's been saying a lot of the right things,
and and again there's no shortage of confidence. So we'll
see how the season plays out. I don't think it's
super fair through four games to stam up a guy,
as you know, right or wrong. We'll kind of see
how the how the season plays out.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yeah. When Caleb Williams, though, uses words like legend and
immortal to describe what he hopes to be his future career,
and then you look at his early play, I mean,
I'm not going to the point where hey, Caleb Williams
is a bust or he isn't the guy, or Jayden
Daniels is going to be better. I just look at
it and I go, he's playing like a rookie. Do
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Bears fans understand that.
Speaker 10 (32:15):
Yeah, and any ish you and I both saw him
a lot at a see. I covered him in the
Cotton Bowl when they were upset by Twulane. And this
is a guy who always had colorful things painted on
his fingernails. And so the idea of him making these
bold statements, to me, it's nothing new. And listen, Chicago
loves the Bears, and there's been conflicting ideals about what
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they believe he brings to this team. But I think
the biggest thing that a lot of Bears fans pointed to,
and rightfully so, is the offensive line. And coming into
this season, there was excitement about a new offensive staff.
There was excitement certainly about Caleb Williams. There was excitement
about some new playmakers around him, especially DeAndre Swift, who
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was signed to a three year deal, what he could
do out of backfield. And then part of what's been
a struggle early on has been the offensive line. And
so I think people blamed a little bit of Caleb's
mistakes but also realize that some of this wasn't completely
on him, and the offensive line needs to step up
and play better. He's been sacked sixteen times through four
games seven times in a single game, so sometimes when
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you're not getting the protection, it's not all on you.
And I think for the most part, fans understand that
and have seen that early.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
There were signs in the first three games before the
game against the Rams over the weekend, where Caleb Williams
would make wow plays, right, And to me, when you're
a rookie quarterback, I think early on you're looking for
those wow plays to say, Okay, the things that we
saw when we turned down the draft film, that stuff
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is still there. Consistency may take time. Is that something
that's kind of being acknowledged locally?
Speaker 10 (33:57):
Yeah, absolutely totally. You see the flashes of bat and
you say, okay, I understand why this guy was hyped
throughout his entire college career as the future number one
overall pick. I mean, let's be honest with Caleb Williams.
This wasn't just oh in twenty twenty three, he established
himself as the future number one overall pick. I think
for years there was expectation that this guy would go
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on to the next level and have a lot of success.
So I think certainly it's something that's been acknowledged by
the fan base and I think there's still a lot
of wait and see. Again, We're only four weeks into
the season, so I think the fact that he did
not turn the football over against the Rams on Sunday,
he had his best game. All of a sudden, the
narrative is shifting a little bit because, as we do
(34:37):
in football, we tend to overreact to one game. So
I think fans are feeling much better after this past
weekend going into the game against Carolina. But I'm going
to be honest. Against Carolina, it's a big test for
Caleb Williams because a team that has struggled, and what
can he do against this team because this is where
he's supposed to really find success, and I think this
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weekend will be an important indicator of his season and
where he will go.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Yeah, and this Panthers defense right now is really banged up.
Speaking of the Bears defense, the Bears historically have always
had good to great defenses, and it seems that's been
an underrated part of this team in the early going.
Speaker 10 (35:16):
Yeah, no doubt, and they had a good weekend. I
think they were really good on first down, struggled a
little bit on second down to set up some third downs.
That Matthew Stafford was able to eat him up a
little bit, But overall, this is the identity of the
Chicago Bears team is an elite defense, and with matt
Eberflu the defensive guy, you would hope that that was
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sort of the forefront. And again that's why I think
in the off season the money was spent on the
offensive side of the ball because they thought, we have
a really, really solid defense, and we have, so how
can we compliment it with some offensive pieces.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
I'll leave you with this. I think a lot of
folks felt when you looked at the NFC North that
had a chance to be the best division in football.
I think it is Detroit having the season it did.
Green Bay gave that matt of contract to Jordan Love,
and Love goes and gets hurt. The team I don't
think any of us saw coming. Was Minnesota and Sam
Darnold looking like an MVP. That seems to have changed
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the math drastically in the NFC North.
Speaker 10 (36:15):
It's wild. Yeah, you know a lot of Michigan and
Detroit Lions fans around here, so all I heard about
all off season were the Detroit Lions, and you know,
they haven't maybe been as hot to begin the season
as people would have would have liked to know that
loss to Tampa Bay was a bummer for them. But
you're right, Sam Donald has has been great and it's
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a wide open division and an exciting division. And the
cool thing about the NFL, which is different than college
football any issue and I both know, is you can
lose a couple of games and towards the end of
the season you get hot and you go into the
postseason and you have a chance to compete for a
Super Bowl. A little bit different than you know, if
you're looking at two or three losses in college football
and maybe you have no chance at the postseason. So
I think that's what's interesting is we're still finding out
(36:59):
the identity of these teams. I think again, it can
be a pretty wide open division, and I think there's
going to be a lot of excitement come November and December.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Yeah, sure seems like it. And I know there's gonna
be a lot of excitement this weekend Panthers in Chicago
to take on the Bears and the number one pick,
Caleb Williams Taylor. We appreciate your.
Speaker 10 (37:19):
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Final segment here on Panther Talk. And as the Panthers
get ready for October, I thought a peek ahead on
the schedule would be apt. You're gonna face three rookie quarterbacks,
maybe four if Michael Pennix happens to play for the Falcons.
But Caleb Williams, who is. I don't think he's been bad.
(37:58):
I think he's played like a rookie. You get the
Falcons who still haven't quite figured out how to unlock
their offense. The commanders have been better than expected, and
Jaden Daniels reinning Heisman Trophy winner looks like this year's
version of c. J. Stroud. And then you get Denver
and I get three of them are on the road.
But Jim, I look at this October schedule, with the
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way the Panthers are trending, there is an opportunity. And
you know, we've always talked about the offense as being
the concern. Right now I think health on defense might
be the limiting factor. But there's an opportunity over this
next month to make up some ground.
Speaker 7 (38:37):
Is only look at one game at a time and
you shall know you stop. Stop, Okay, I'll play along, Okay,
go ahead, get that. I said that.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
I think Eugene that when you talk about young quarterbacks
like that especially, it's always like, you know, get them
off their spot, right, get pressure on them, whether you
get sacks or not. If you can make them uncomfortable
in the pocket and force them into bad decisions. That's
why I think someone like Andy Dalton, Yes, his shoulder
or whatever, go hit on the interception that von Bell had.
Something physical like that happens, Yeah, but as far as
just the mental component of that, just making them think,
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you know, making them scramble around, if you get clowning
and get some other guys, get.
Speaker 7 (39:10):
Some pressure on them.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
Because you look at yesterday, no quarterback sacks, didn't get
much pressure on Burrow, and.
Speaker 7 (39:14):
When you did, he was able to escape it pretty easily.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
So I think with Tunisia's pointing, talking about younger quarterbacks
like that, get in their face, you'll make make make
life difficult for them with a young quarterback, rattle them.
Because Joe Burrow was not rattled. He was able to
handle a couple of situations where we did get pressure
on it, and he.
Speaker 6 (39:29):
Ran the ball really well to go ahead and create
some space and to throw the ball down field. Also,
don't forget I'm looking at Williams. Six sets of sixteen sacks.
Sixteen sixteen sacks. All right, Okay, we're joking around here, right,
I got a missed up, a missing tooth. Okay, so
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I gotta go ahead and get it replaced.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
This show really needs a video component. We really need
a video.
Speaker 5 (39:58):
So as I'm talking, you were pressured by a defensive
not your tooth out.
Speaker 6 (40:02):
My retainer came out of my mouth, and so I'm
missing the tooth, and so did you get it? So
but let me just say this, but sixteen sacks, that's
a lot of sacks, dude, And he's worried about trying
to throw the ball because people down, people bearing down
on his back. And so the more you can put
pressure on young quarterbacks, the more likely they're able to
make mistakes.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
And now.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Always people get a visual. Yes, he's got a tooth
in one hand, and he's got a Reese's candy wrapper.
Speaker 7 (40:31):
Oh that's what That's what got you.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
No, they didn't get me.
Speaker 7 (40:34):
Candy didn't get you.
Speaker 6 (40:35):
You know, the old rules said, I was I was
pronouncing a pe and the tooth came out.
Speaker 7 (40:41):
But you always tell the tooth. You always tell the tooth.
I always tell the tooth.
Speaker 6 (40:44):
But good go ahead, goodness, this.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Is just maybe somebody else. Look a silver dollar.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
I think we should end on that.
Speaker 7 (40:56):
I think we need to end on that one right there.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
He put his two back in. Let that visual marinate
till next week on Panther Talk.
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Speaker 1 (00:18):
Here's the snap, Juba up the middle, crashing touchdown Carolina.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yeah, we didn't lose anything today. This was a this
is an NFL football game. Came down to a couple
of plays that made the difference. So for us, we're
gonna go back look at this tape and there's gonna
be things that we're gonna say, Man, if we would
have just done that, the outcome could have been different.
We fought and we just came up short.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
And now, along with Jim Zochi and Eugene Robinson, here's
a Niche Shruff with Panther Talk live from the Panthers
broadcast facility at Bank of America Stereo.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Wake me up when September ends, That is actually tomorrow.
Panthers through the first month of the season. October call
it Red. October begins in Earnest on Tuesday, the Bears
on the road next weekend. Panthers falling a little short
over the weekend to the Cincinnati Bengals. Let's bring in
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the head coach of the Carolina Panthers, as we always do,
Dave Canalis and Dave we talked about it a little
bit on the postgame show too, and you mentioned it
at your press conference today. When you go back and
watch the tape, it felt like there were some opportunities
for this game to be had and two three plays
could have swung the outcome.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Absolutely, you know, definitely, you know, finished our film sessions
talking to the players, talking to the staff, and just
sick about the opportunities that we had out there. The
opening drive, you know, giving them an interception early in
their territory with the really nice rush by Trey Hendrickson.
(01:58):
But again just you know, two big plays defensively that
I felt like we could have controlled, you know, making
our tackles, playing our leverage offensively, you know, just some
near misses on balls down the field, but the run
efficiency was there. We played the run well, defensively responded
in the second half, you know, really you know, holding
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them down to field goals there to give our offense
a chance to work back into the game. And there
we were four minutes to go down a touchdown, you know,
and we couldn't get it done. You know, we didn't
execute enough to finish the way we want to. But
some things to build off of, and also just some
things to look at and say, man, you know, if
we're going to be playing winning football against good football teams,
we got to execute all across the board.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Coach, looking at the offense averaging four hundred plus yards
the last two weeks. What has allowed this offense to
to get unlocked and get in sync.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
It starts off with the run game. It's about it's
happened up front again, you know, just the efficiency and
the run game putting us into favorable third downs, you know,
and we were in those third and medium or short
areas you know, throughout the game. We were seven of eleven.
That's a great day. We put ourselves into some longer
situations with some pre snap penalties, a couple of false starts,
but starts off with the run game and that allows
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us then to take shots down the field off our
play actions, which we hit a couple and we missed
a few. You know, we got to take advantage of
those one on one opportunities when we have them. But
it all starts up front.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
You've coached obviously, quarterbacks, receivers, different position groups throughout the years,
and EO. Wes coaches sometimes, you know, what do you
do about dropped passes? Especially with your five games into
a season something like that. They said, catch the ball
is the obviously answer. But is there a in this
game as you look at it in situations like that
it's a different number of players. Is it a focus?
Is it try to do too much? I catch the ball,
turn and run quickly? Or what were some of the
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common threads maybe with why a number of passes were
left on the field yesterday.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Yeah, all of those things and all guys that we
have full one confidence in making those plays. These are
plays these guys can make and we expect to do
for them to do that in the future.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
And coach, where does the leadership come from? We had
Tobackers are down, and so the guys who are going
to go ahead and fill in? And when I'm also
thinking about Derek Brown not being that guy in the
middle of a d lin So where do you now
get that leadership to go ahead and galvanize this defense?
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Well, I mean you talk about you know, the first
of all, just Shack. You know, just talking about Shack,
you know, my heart goes out to the guy, somebody
that really embodies the style of football we want to play.
Just plays with such passion. He celebrates, and he's enthusiastic
about the place he makes and others make a guy
that really, you know, just plays hard the way the
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football is supposed to be played. So we're certainly going
to miss him. You know, Josie will miss a little
bit of time with some soft tissue stuff. But you know,
we have a leadership council for a reason. There's a
bunch of guys that have leadership. You know, these are
some some of the guys that we depend on, but
we have a great group of guys that really represent
what we're trying to get done on the offensive side
and the defensive side. Guys that are just emerging that
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we're excited about, you know, not just the football part
of people stepping in to see those opportunities. I love
that next man up mentality to see who we have
as we strengthen our group, but also from a leadership standpoint,
to see guys just continue to take strides and stand
for the principles more than the talk It's about the
principles of what we are. It's playing tough, it's playing
physical football. You know, all the things that we talk
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about on a weekly basis.
Speaker 7 (05:21):
And coach.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
One other question is now that like two weeks ago,
I mentioned about going into a four to three defense
and a mere's a couple of other ball players for
talking about that going in to the fourth three defense.
Now to the fact that you have a couple of
linebackers down, does that help you get to that or
you do some sort of four to three nickel type
situation to compensate for not having that many backers in.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
You know, we just stick to the program where we
believe our principles in our philosophy. It's a fantastic scheme.
Playing together, everyone owning their leverage and playing good team
football on the defensive side is what it's all about.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yeah, we're talking with Dave Canalis, the Panthers head coach.
You mentioned Shack and Josie Jewel. Shack with the achilles
tear and Josie a hamstring and a growin. Trevin Wallace
was somebody that impressed in preseason. What do you like
about him now that a bigger role is upon him
as a rookie.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
I'm excited for Trevin to get in there to communicate
the defenses, you know, getting the information from Agero. I'm
excited to see him run sideline the sideline and do
the things that we thought that he could do coming out,
you know, and his progression, as it's been gradual, now
gets a step up and he gets to just do
his part. That's it. We don't expect him to try
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to make all the plays. Just make the plays that
come to you. And that starts off with just getting
the call in and owning your leverage, being in the
right position in the run of the pass game.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Another thing that gets into your depth is when guys
have to step up and the next man up they start,
and then so when it's further down becomes the backup.
What does that do to your different special teams groupings
as far as you know, again prepared for all the
different special teams groupings and different people having to step in.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Great opportunity, the great opportunities for the guys particularly we
talked about the practice squad players, guys that are just
chomping at the bit to get a chance, and oftentimes
what I've seen over the years is guys get their
first ops on special teams to see if they can
make an impact and they can help the Panthers win.
So I'm excited for a bunch of guys that we're
evaluating to see if they can help us in our
coverage and return units.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
You guys had a great play call on the fake
punch and obviously didn't get to catch all the way
to completion there, but I looked I was gonna hit
for a big one there. As a staff, how do
you kind of decide those moments when they're right in
the game, Tod pull out of play like that.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
You know, it was an opportunity for us to really
can you guys hear me still? Okay?
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Yes, yeah, we got your coach?
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Okay, great, Yeah, just an opportunity for us to be
aggressive there. Just that and that fourth down we were
down two scores at the time. I love that op
and I think we'll make it the next time. And
it's also just a tribute to Johnny giving us that
flexibility to be able to do some different things in
our punt coach.
Speaker 6 (07:55):
My mentor day Brown always ascribed to some used to
always say, make the players that come to you do
you seem to ascribe to the exact same thing.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Why.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Absolutely. It keeps us from trying too hard. We want
great effort, but that doesn't mean you have to do
anything outside of what's assigned to you for that play.
If you can just own your part of it and
eleven people do that same thing, then the plays. Eugene,
as you know first and foremost, you know that those
plays will come to you when you're in the right position.
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But it all starts with effort. If you do your
job and you're heading to the ball, we say good
things come to those who run. Hip balls come up
in the air, you're in position for an overthrow or
an underthrow, and it all starts off with just trusting
to just do your part. But it also it's also
about trusting your teammate, knowing he's going to do his part.
I don't have to over extend outside of my zone,
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or I don't have to go match someone else when
I'm on three or I'm on two. Just do your
part of it defensively and offensively. It's the same thing.
You don't have to look for the big run. Those
things happen as you press the runs properly. You get
on the heels of your offensive lineman and take those
positive gains, and then when the defense starts to overplay it,
that's when you can start to crease them and get
the big ones.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Dave, you said, you've said many times that the identity
of this team will reveal itself a month into the season.
Is it fair to say that it really starts up front?
Just watching the all twenty two of the offensive line
the first four games, it seems they've played bully ball
a little bit in that physicality and toughness, the dog
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mentality you and Dan Morgan have talked about. It seems
it starts with those guys. Is it fair to say
that's where the identity is being established.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Well, that's certainly one piece of it, you know, But
it's also defensively, guys running around making big hits, punching
at the ball, you know, Xavier with the big interception,
that we're seeing glimpses and pieces of the things that
we can count on, because at some point I would
love to just open it up to the team and say, okay, guys,
what can you expect from the opposite side of the ball,
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To see what they see, to see what they might
say about their teammates, and I believe that the more
football we put on film, guys will start to make
feel really confident about what they can expect from each other.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Nobody happy with not winning, but you guys close the
gap down and you get it too. That one possession game,
and that was kind of a theme in the locker
room afterwards. Again, everyone wants that win, but there's a
confidence that comes, like the next time, that you know
you'd have that ability to come back if need be.
What did I say about Andy Dalton and the guys
and what they've been able to do in a short
amount of time in their new roles.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
It's about belief all across the organization, especially in that
locker room. Guys believing in each other, believing that if
we can just continue to play good football, we'll be
righting these games. We can finish games off like we
did in Vegas. We can play ourselves back into a
one score game this past week. It's about belief, and
there was no panic on that sideline, there was no
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panic in that locker room. It was just a sick
feeling that we let an opportunity to get away. And
I hope we keep that mentality. You know, there are
no feel good losses in this league. We play them
all to win, and the guys know. We look at
the opportunities as coaches as well, and we saw we
saw a game that got away from us, and so
we're excited to get back to work and take this
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show on the road in Chicago.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Coach, one more before we let you go. Andy Dalton's
done a nice job these last two weeks. But as
Bryce Young watches, what do you want him to watch
and observe and learn? Right now, we're.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Just growing our system. We're growing our concepts, playing good
team football, all the guys together, communicating, working through the issues.
Let's be part of the solution. And for all of
all the guys across the board is just like, let's
find solutions to the issues as they arise and just
keep honing our football.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
And coach, let me just add this to that beautiful pass,
that little pulse for that test down, the anticipation of
throwing that throwing that man open and getting ready before
he makes us break was brilliant.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
It was a beautiful throw. All starts up front, giving
him enough time to hit his back foot reset and
Deontay finishing it off with a great route and a
great catch.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Dave, we appreciate the time. Onto Chicago, onto October.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Thank you, Okay, thanks guys, thank you.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I think Dave Canalis, head coach of the Carolina Panthers,
I'm gonna echo before we go to break here what
a lot of the players said after the game. I
know it's a loss, and I know in the NFL
there's not supposed to be moral victories and you're not
supposed to take solace in defeat. There is a different feeling, yes,
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in the building and about this team after the first
two weeks, and after weeks three and four they were
down two scores in the second half. Gym, that was
a game that last year you realistically didn't feel you
had enough firepower to come back and win or even
have a chance in and hell, the Panthers were able
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to close the gap, get the ball back down by
one score with the chance to tie. It didn't work out,
But there is kind of this sense that, hey, offensively,
they can move the ball, and you don't feel like
you're out of a game. And I know the Bengals
are better than their ozero and three record going into
the game, that felt like, hey, couple of plays, the
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Panthers are sitting here at two and two, and given
where we were a year ago, I think that's a
positive movement for this franchise.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
It's a complicated game, and it's a simple game in
that you literally can't win if you don't score. And
the last two games of last year we literally did
not score, so you had no chance to win those.
Last year you could only tie and go through a
fifth period of another scoreless period. But I think you
know to your point, it's like you feel like you
know this team if it's down. They were down seventeen
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in this game, they came back. They got it down
to seven to have that opportunity to get back in
it that you didn't feel like in the first game,
even though this year against New Orleans that was a possibility.
So I think now Eugenie, you feel like you know again,
Andy's the probably the biggest reason for that. But even again,
what you don't have Adam Thielen, you didn't have Damian
Lewis yesterday, you still feel like, Okay, you've got enough
on the field here where you can mount a comeback.
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And they did, and they were in a position to
even get the ball game tied at one point. But
you take hope out of the fact that moving forward
has a lot of football to be played this season
that should that opportunity happen again, if you're behind, you're
playing with a leader, or whatever the case is, that
you can keep pressing that accelerator and putting points on
the board.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
As a player and as a coach, we've always said
sometimes when you win, you lose, and sometimes when you lose,
you win. And I would submit to you that even
though you lost, there was so many positive things out
of that game. It did not feel like last year
at all. It did not even feel like the beginning
of the season, not one bit. It felt different. And
the people in the stands felt the exact same thing.
(14:40):
They don't know what they felt, but they're like, hey,
this is not the same. It's just not And when
you walk away from that game, it's a loss, but
some respect. I'm sitting there going like this, now, this
is a win. The way Chuba Hubbard runs the rock,
let me just brag about him. My goodness, dude, that
dude is like hung He's trying to run people over.
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He's taking you with him. You know, and he does
it with such ferocity. I would love to see him
get more touches in the receiving game because I'm like,
this dude is electric. Man, this dude is exciting and
it's infectious and so of once again, the way our
office has moved away. Andy Dalton's throwing guys open the anticipation.
Burrows and Andy Dalton. When you look at their stats,
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I mean, they were virtually the same. They are virtually
the same. I'm telling you, man, well, sometimes when you lose,
you win. Yeah, and I want to submit to you
that loss. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Don't forget. Cincinnati last year went nine and eight with
Joe Burrow missing the back end of the season. The
year before AFC Championship. The year before that, they were
in the Super Bowl and almost won. Yep, the Super Bowl.
It's a good Cincinnati team despite what their record was
coming into the game. We're gonna step aside. We'll hear
from Ryan Khalil later on, and then Taylor McGregor will
(15:56):
join us to preview the Chicago Bears this coming Sunday.
All that ahead on the Carolina Panthers Radio network.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
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Speaker 1 (16:07):
Tools, pocket hold, Andy fires downfield, what six touchdown? Hand
zone center cut dion Ted Johnson for.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Us right now, it's about fundamental execution and being able to,
you know, know when I call this call, man, we
know where this ball's going, and to be able to
execute that way.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
And so I see.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Huge strides happening. I love seeing the run game paired
with just pushing the ball down the field, which we
got a couple of really good opportunities down there that
I would love to come away with, you know, big
explosive plays that I thought we'd missed, and of course,
like you mentioned it, just you know, just executing on
the little stuff.
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Speaker 1 (16:45):
Andy Dalton had another productive day for the Carolina Panthers.
In two starts, Carolina is one and one with Dalton,
he's enjoying this resurgence, this second act, if you will.
And that's been an ear theme in the NFL this season.
We've seen it with Baker Mayfield going back to last year.
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We've seen it with Jared Goff going back to last year.
We have seen it now with Sam Darnold, who looks
like a bonafide MVP candidate for the four and oh
Minnesota Vikings Geno Smith Joe Flacco a year ago, Eugene.
Does this change the way that maybe franchises might look
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at identifying who their quarterback should be? Where? I get it.
You all want to draft to Patrick Mahomes and you
want to draft to Joe Burrow, but it's hard to
find those guys even when you have a top pick
Wright or a CJ. Stroud. I get all that. Is
there something too?
Speaker 7 (17:48):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (17:49):
The guys where didn't work the first time because they
were thrown into the fire too quickly or it wasn't
the right fit. But a second act in a different
area code might be what unlocks their potential. Does that
change how you think about kind of addressing that position
as a franchise?
Speaker 6 (18:06):
It so does look like the way in trending that
way because the guys that you just mentioned, every starting
quarterback in the league or every backup quarterback in the
league has been a starter in some form.
Speaker 7 (18:19):
They've been the guy.
Speaker 6 (18:21):
They've been the guy that everybody's relied on to go
ahead and be that guy to to move the team.
They get to the NFL and it doesn't work out,
and what are they doing. They're anxious to get back
at the helm to be that guy because they've always
been that guy. They've been that hardworking person, scoring testowns
every day. That's the sexy position in football everybody and
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if you got that position, you're the guy that everybody
talks about. And so from that standpoint, I saw Bacon Mayfield.
He scored a testdown in this past week and he
threw the ball into this like the fans and he
was like ah, and he was like that was relief.
Was like, I told y'all, y'a doubted me. That's right,
y'ah doted me. I told you I'm the guy. I'm
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the real deal. So I think it's trending that way,
and I think that instead of looking for somebody that
jewel in the draft, I think that you find Andy
Dalton who was a capable quarterback or Flack who's already
been through all the stuff that you're going to go
through and check, teach people and let them go ahead
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and run the helm as you've developed some talent on
the bench.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
I've talked to a lot of coaches through the years,
and the common thing in coordinators is that you need
a quarterback to run the offense. It's like you can
talk combine stuff all day long as far as armstrang speeding. Also,
can you run the offense is by far the most
important thing. And with that you have to be an
accurate thrower of the football. So that's the most important
skill trade is accuracy and throwing the football. But you
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have to mentally run the playbook and if you don't
run it right then then nothing's going to be in
sync with that. So that's why it's good to have
a guy who's been around for a couple of years,
or if you d someone on the niche. The best
situation has had like a like a Jordan Love where
you can sit and watch for a couple of years
and then his time comes for and it doesn't have
to be five years.
Speaker 7 (20:07):
It could be you know, a year, it could be
a year and a half or whatever.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
It's probably the best scenario if you're going to take
a young quarterback, because yes there.
Speaker 7 (20:12):
Is a C. J.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Stroud, but for every C. Stroud and Jay Daniels, which
is a short sample size. If I would have thought
Trevor Lawrence but came in and just been like the
guy right, like like Hall of Fame guy, and he's
just been mediocre.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Okay, yeah, right. I look at this part of the
equation too. You know, there's a shift happening in the
NFL right now. And I'm not saying the quarterback position
is being de emphasized, but passing is down. And some
of that might be it's early in the season. It's September.
Passing yardage is down, it's been trending down. What's going
up running the football? Rushing yardage is going up. And
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you played with Reggie White, for example, how many d
ns in today's game the ends edge guys have Reggie
White's build?
Speaker 7 (20:55):
Not so many. None.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
All those guys are playing inside.
Speaker 7 (20:58):
They're playing inside.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
They're playing inside. So you have d tackles who are
not as big as they were. Guys who used to
be dns are now playing inside. A guy like Michael Srahan,
Reggie White, those guys are now Aaron Donald exactly right. Yes,
so again, smaller guys. So you get these big, beefy
offensive linemen like the Panthers kind of put together the
run game works. I'm not saying the quarterback position doesn't matter,
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but you can deemphasize it a little bit.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
Exactly, and then it makes your quarterback even that much
better because when you can run the rock, you can
pass the ball because now it's an open canvas. You
gotta go eight man front to stop the run. And
now you management on outside. And if you got Johnson
Deonta Johnson, dude, the way he moves and runs, I'm
like he's a star man. Now, dude, he's a real deal.
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And so now you get one on one situations that
receivers are begging for, like, Okay, turn me loose. I'm
about to cook this cat. I'm about to cook them
because you can run the rock.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
I think the perfect situation I know gonna break is
is somebody who is a game manager, which is a
compliment a game manager because he's managing the game. He's
not losing the game. He's performing the office away he
should be with that stud receiver. So the difference with
Sam Darnold is you've got Justin Jefferson. Now you've got
you know, one of the top two receivers probably in
the league right there, and let them catch it, pass
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and then they go be special as opposed to a quarterback.
Happen to come up with some sixty yard throw and
that they have to go run under it.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
Absolutely, that's a great example. I mean, Jefferson, if I
know I throw you to Rock, I know you're gonna
get some. Yet you're gonna go ahead and give me
another ten to fifteen. Oh you might break it. You know.
Burrow's a jamar chase.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
You think about that.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
I mean, I look at brock Purty. I look at
brock Purty. If you put Rock Purty on New England
with those receivers, I don't think he's anywhere near. They
might have been Jones again, might have been yep, right exact,
and maybe Mac Jones is that second act guy in
a better situation, a guy who had or earlease success
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Speaker 4 (23:52):
Again, We're coming together and it's the balance. It's the
balance of the runs, the actions, the quick game and
drop back. All the things that we're counting on is
really starting to take strides, you know. But we got
to finish and we got to finish plays, finish drives
and finish games on our you know, on our terms.
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Speaker 8 (24:29):
All right, ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to the
stew and crew. This is a special episode because I
have a teammate that's not just my teammate, I call
him my very close friend, Ryan Kalil. Ladies and gentlemen,
if you had any advice right now for any of
the guys that are currently in the Panthers locker room
(24:51):
right now, right with everything that's transpired over the last
several years, live after football, your family, man coaching, Like,
if you had anything to just kind of share with
a young guy, you know, maybe your younger self, right,
(25:14):
what would that be with everything that you've experienced.
Speaker 9 (25:16):
So far, It'd probably go back to culture. I think
culture is so incredibly important, and I think if you
want to win, if you want to be part of
a winning team, then you need to be the change.
And it really does start with yourself. It's so easy
in an NFL locker room, especially when things aren't going well,
to huddle with other guys and to start pointing fingers
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and to start complaining and to start acting like you
have all the answers. And this is the reason why,
and that's the reason why. The harder thing to do
is to have faith and to trust and to show
up every day even when things aren't going right, and
to stay the course and to keep getting better, and
to keep having a positive attitude, and to try to
bring guys along and enjoy your time. So I think,
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you know, I probably had a couple of those seasons,
especially younger in my career. It took me a long time.
So if I could travel back in time and tell
my younger self anything, it would be to avoid the groups,
to avoid the individuals who sort of like revel and misery,
and to be the person who is the positive change,
and to be the person who's delight that comes in
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every day and gets guys excited to go to work,
because it's incredibly hard in the NFL, going through NFL
Sunday and then coming in on Tuesday and trying to
get yourself hyped again for the week, knowing that especially
you know, you start the week off full pads and
you're trying to correct stuff from last week. You're trying
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to prepare for the next week. You've got a lot
of coaches who are who are in high pressure situations,
who a lot of people are breathing down their next
they have bosses. So I just towards the end of
my career, I started having more grace for position coaches,
especially in the fights, that they had to have to
protect their guys but also keep them accountable and try
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to get them better. Yeah, it's easy to feel sorry
for yourself. It's easy to sort of read what everybody
thinks about the team, what everybody, what everybody's opinions are,
and to kind of jump on those trains. It's much
harder to silo yourself away from all the noise and
to keep the faith. And it's funny, we had some
of that our Super Bowl run year. When KB went down.
(27:29):
We thought, oh, that's a rap on our offense, like
our best receivers done, like that's it, And guys started
talking and I'll never forget there was a handful of guys,
including Luke, who really started the positive talk early. But
it would have been so easy for all of us
to kind of huddle at training table and to start
talking about the sky is falling and to listen to
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the punnits who are on TV that were watching saying, well,
that's a rap for the Panthers, like they're going to
struggle this season, And we did it. And all that
did was create opportunity for other guys who never got
a shot. So you just never know. Oh you never know.
But nobody ever saw us. And even I don't know
if you remember, even when we started winning, they still
wouldn't give us credit. They still kept and it said
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noise was like, this is a fluke. The teams they're
playing are not very good, Like these guys are paper tigers.
They would say it every single week.
Speaker 8 (28:18):
The wor fifteen one they kept the.
Speaker 9 (28:20):
Worst thirteen one teams. They kept trying, and the more
they did that, the tighter we got, the better positive.
Speaker 7 (28:26):
Talk we had.
Speaker 9 (28:27):
So I think it just goes to show how powerful
that is. And so that would be my advice is
to not listen to the noise, to give the people
in your circle to benefit of the doubt, and to
trust the process and not carry with you the residue
or the hangover from past seasons. You know what I mean.
It's really easy when you've had a couple bad seasons
to get into the here we go again, to really
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treat each and every season like it's its own special thing,
and to not bombard it with any kind of baggage
that you're bringing from your own expertperiances or the experiences
of other teams. But that's hard to do. That's easier
Seve than done, but it takes yourself to do it.
And then you recruit a couple guys and you just
keep conditioning guys around you, and then guys either get
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pissed and go, Okay, well you're not a realist. I'm
going to talk to somebody else, or they buy in
and they start sort of they start emulating how you're
sort of going about it, especially if you're a respected veteran.
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Panther Talk continues and Carolina gets ready for its Week
five opponent, first game in October. They head to Chicago,
one of three road games in the month of October,
and to get the loadown on the Bears, we bring
in the host of the Bears, den On, Marquis Iago Cup,
sideline reporter, ESPN college football reporter and good friend Taylor McGregor.
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Taylor appreciate you joining us. Caleb Williams, number one pick
in the draft, Heisman Trophy winner and then the guy
picked behind him is bawling out. I feel like we've
seen this movie in Carolina just a year ago. How
has Caleb Williams dealt with the guy being picked after
him having what appears to be another one of these
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outlier rookie seasons.
Speaker 10 (30:30):
Yeah, it's funny because it's exactly that I was going
to say. I feel like Carolina fans know exactly the
story of the expectation that comes with being the number
one overall pick. And that's what Bryce Young dealt with
a year ago. That's what Caleb Williams is dealing with
this year. And look, we're four games into the season,
so I don't think it's really fair to completely judge
a quarterback by four games. The first three were up
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and down, and it was very public that him and
some of the other key members of the offense had
a meeting with Bears offensive coordinator Shane Waldron and said,
we need different play calls out of you, We need
you to be more aggressive, we need to come up
with different personnels. That's try different things offensively. And last
or this Sunday against the Rams, we saw a little
bit of that. The key was getting the run game
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going and setting up some you know, some play action
for later on in the game. And that's kind of
what we're able to see. And Caleb had his best
game as a Bear, completed seventy four percent of his passes,
had a touchdown, no interception, So that was certainly good
to see. I think as far as dealing with the expectation,
he seems to have a lot of confidence. He's really
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embraced Chicago. He's been saying a lot of the right things,
and and again there's no shortage of confidence. So we'll
see how the season plays out. I don't think it's
super fair through four games to stam up a guy,
as you know, right or wrong. We'll kind of see
how the how the season plays out.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yeah. When Caleb Williams, though, uses words like legend and
immortal to describe what he hopes to be his future career,
and then you look at his early play, I mean,
I'm not going to the point where hey, Caleb Williams
is a bust or he isn't the guy, or Jayden
Daniels is going to be better. I just look at
it and I go, he's playing like a rookie. Do
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Bears fans understand that.
Speaker 10 (32:15):
Yeah, and any ish you and I both saw him
a lot at a see. I covered him in the
Cotton Bowl when they were upset by Twulane. And this
is a guy who always had colorful things painted on
his fingernails. And so the idea of him making these
bold statements, to me, it's nothing new. And listen, Chicago
loves the Bears, and there's been conflicting ideals about what
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they believe he brings to this team. But I think
the biggest thing that a lot of Bears fans pointed to,
and rightfully so, is the offensive line. And coming into
this season, there was excitement about a new offensive staff.
There was excitement certainly about Caleb Williams. There was excitement
about some new playmakers around him, especially DeAndre Swift, who
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was signed to a three year deal, what he could
do out of backfield. And then part of what's been
a struggle early on has been the offensive line. And
so I think people blamed a little bit of Caleb's
mistakes but also realize that some of this wasn't completely
on him, and the offensive line needs to step up
and play better. He's been sacked sixteen times through four
games seven times in a single game, so sometimes when
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you're not getting the protection, it's not all on you.
And I think for the most part, fans understand that
and have seen that early.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
There were signs in the first three games before the
game against the Rams over the weekend, where Caleb Williams
would make wow plays, right, And to me, when you're
a rookie quarterback, I think early on you're looking for
those wow plays to say, Okay, the things that we
saw when we turned down the draft film, that stuff
(33:50):
is still there. Consistency may take time. Is that something
that's kind of being acknowledged locally?
Speaker 10 (33:57):
Yeah, absolutely totally. You see the flashes of bat and
you say, okay, I understand why this guy was hyped
throughout his entire college career as the future number one
overall pick. I mean, let's be honest with Caleb Williams.
This wasn't just oh in twenty twenty three, he established
himself as the future number one overall pick. I think
for years there was expectation that this guy would go
(34:17):
on to the next level and have a lot of success.
So I think certainly it's something that's been acknowledged by
the fan base and I think there's still a lot
of wait and see. Again, We're only four weeks into
the season, so I think the fact that he did
not turn the football over against the Rams on Sunday,
he had his best game. All of a sudden, the
narrative is shifting a little bit because, as we do
(34:37):
in football, we tend to overreact to one game. So
I think fans are feeling much better after this past
weekend going into the game against Carolina. But I'm going
to be honest. Against Carolina, it's a big test for
Caleb Williams because a team that has struggled, and what
can he do against this team because this is where
he's supposed to really find success, and I think this
(35:00):
weekend will be an important indicator of his season and
where he will go.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Yeah, and this Panthers defense right now is really banged up.
Speaking of the Bears defense, the Bears historically have always
had good to great defenses, and it seems that's been
an underrated part of this team in the early going.
Speaker 10 (35:16):
Yeah, no doubt, and they had a good weekend. I
think they were really good on first down, struggled a
little bit on second down to set up some third downs.
That Matthew Stafford was able to eat him up a
little bit, But overall, this is the identity of the
Chicago Bears team is an elite defense, and with matt
Eberflu the defensive guy, you would hope that that was
(35:37):
sort of the forefront. And again that's why I think
in the off season the money was spent on the
offensive side of the ball because they thought, we have
a really, really solid defense, and we have, so how
can we compliment it with some offensive pieces.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
I'll leave you with this. I think a lot of
folks felt when you looked at the NFC North that
had a chance to be the best division in football.
I think it is Detroit having the season it did.
Green Bay gave that matt of contract to Jordan Love,
and Love goes and gets hurt. The team I don't
think any of us saw coming. Was Minnesota and Sam
Darnold looking like an MVP. That seems to have changed
(36:12):
the math drastically in the NFC North.
Speaker 10 (36:15):
It's wild. Yeah, you know a lot of Michigan and
Detroit Lions fans around here, so all I heard about
all off season were the Detroit Lions, and you know,
they haven't maybe been as hot to begin the season
as people would have would have liked to know that
loss to Tampa Bay was a bummer for them. But
you're right, Sam Donald has has been great and it's
(36:38):
a wide open division and an exciting division. And the
cool thing about the NFL, which is different than college
football any issue and I both know, is you can
lose a couple of games and towards the end of
the season you get hot and you go into the
postseason and you have a chance to compete for a
Super Bowl. A little bit different than you know, if
you're looking at two or three losses in college football
and maybe you have no chance at the postseason. So
I think that's what's interesting is we're still finding out
(36:59):
the identity of these teams. I think again, it can
be a pretty wide open division, and I think there's
going to be a lot of excitement come November and December.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Yeah, sure seems like it. And I know there's gonna
be a lot of excitement this weekend Panthers in Chicago
to take on the Bears and the number one pick,
Caleb Williams Taylor. We appreciate your.
Speaker 10 (37:19):
Time, always pay to talk to you in Niche.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Panther Talk presented by Bosh power Tools, continues after this
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Speaker 2 (37:30):
This is Panther Talk please, ended by Bosh power Tools.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Final segment here on Panther Talk. And as the Panthers
get ready for October, I thought a peek ahead on
the schedule would be apt. You're gonna face three rookie quarterbacks,
maybe four if Michael Pennix happens to play for the Falcons.
But Caleb Williams, who is. I don't think he's been bad.
(37:58):
I think he's played like a rookie. You get the
Falcons who still haven't quite figured out how to unlock
their offense. The commanders have been better than expected, and
Jaden Daniels reinning Heisman Trophy winner looks like this year's
version of c. J. Stroud. And then you get Denver
and I get three of them are on the road.
But Jim, I look at this October schedule, with the
(38:21):
way the Panthers are trending, there is an opportunity. And
you know, we've always talked about the offense as being
the concern. Right now I think health on defense might
be the limiting factor. But there's an opportunity over this
next month to make up some ground.
Speaker 7 (38:37):
Is only look at one game at a time and
you shall know you stop. Stop, Okay, I'll play along, Okay,
go ahead, get that. I said that.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
I think Eugene that when you talk about young quarterbacks
like that especially, it's always like, you know, get them
off their spot, right, get pressure on them, whether you
get sacks or not. If you can make them uncomfortable
in the pocket and force them into bad decisions. That's
why I think someone like Andy Dalton, Yes, his shoulder
or whatever, go hit on the interception that von Bell had.
Something physical like that happens, Yeah, but as far as
just the mental component of that, just making them think,
(39:07):
you know, making them scramble around, if you get clowning
and get some other guys, get.
Speaker 7 (39:10):
Some pressure on them.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
Because you look at yesterday, no quarterback sacks, didn't get
much pressure on Burrow, and.
Speaker 7 (39:14):
When you did, he was able to escape it pretty easily.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
So I think with Tunisia's pointing, talking about younger quarterbacks
like that, get in their face, you'll make make make
life difficult for them with a young quarterback, rattle them.
Because Joe Burrow was not rattled. He was able to
handle a couple of situations where we did get pressure
on it, and he.
Speaker 6 (39:29):
Ran the ball really well to go ahead and create
some space and to throw the ball down field. Also,
don't forget I'm looking at Williams. Six sets of sixteen sacks.
Sixteen sixteen sacks. All right, Okay, we're joking around here, right,
I got a missed up, a missing tooth. Okay, so
(39:52):
I gotta go ahead and get it replaced.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
This show really needs a video component. We really need
a video.
Speaker 5 (39:58):
So as I'm talking, you were pressured by a defensive
not your tooth out.
Speaker 6 (40:02):
My retainer came out of my mouth, and so I'm
missing the tooth, and so did you get it? So
but let me just say this, but sixteen sacks, that's
a lot of sacks, dude, And he's worried about trying
to throw the ball because people down, people bearing down
on his back. And so the more you can put
pressure on young quarterbacks, the more likely they're able to
make mistakes.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
And now.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Always people get a visual. Yes, he's got a tooth
in one hand, and he's got a Reese's candy wrapper.
Speaker 7 (40:31):
Oh that's what That's what got you.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
No, they didn't get me.
Speaker 7 (40:34):
Candy didn't get you.
Speaker 6 (40:35):
You know, the old rules said, I was I was
pronouncing a pe and the tooth came out.
Speaker 7 (40:41):
But you always tell the tooth. You always tell the tooth.
I always tell the tooth.
Speaker 6 (40:44):
But good go ahead, goodness, this.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Is just maybe somebody else. Look a silver dollar.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
I think we should end on that.
Speaker 7 (40:56):
I think we need to end on that one right there.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
He put his two back in. Let that visual marinate
till next week on Panther Talk.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
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