September 10, 2024 • 41 mins
This week on Panther Talk, Anish Shroff, Jim Szoke and Eugene Robinson talk with Dave Canales, Tom Luginbill, and Charles Tillman about the Panthers tough week 1 loss, Bryce Young's outlook and development, and so much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
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Speaker 3 (00:18):
You got three turnovers and you give up in the
teens and explosives. That's just the recipe before a really
lopsided game, getting a kick blocked, you know, so in
all phases, you know, we just we just have to
be really honest about where we're at today and look
at it and try to make the next step.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
For and now. Along with Jim Zoki and Eugene Robinson,
here's a Niche Shruff with Panther Talk live from the
Panthers broadcast facility at Bank of America Stereo.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
It is Monday's, September ninth, Panthers coming off their first
game of the season, not the start that any of
us wanted to the twenty twenty four campaign, a lopsided
loss at the Superdome at the hands of division rival
of New Orleans. And the big news today that has
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been dominating the headlines in Pantherland. The best player on
the team, the pro bowler from a season ago. Derek
Brown suffered a knee injury in that loss. It's a
meniscus injury. He'll be getting his second opinion and we'll
wait to see what his status is, how long he's
going to be out for. We're gonna hear from Dave
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Knalis in a little bit talk about what happened on Sunday.
Look ahead as well, and see if there's an update
over the last couple of hours regarding Derek Brown. Eugene,
I'll start with you, sometimes there's just no way around
it right at the end of the day. Yes, it's
one game out of seventeen, but as far as season
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openers go, it just seemed like a perfect storm right
from the get go. Derek Carr hits Shaheed for that
long touchdown down. First offensive play of the season is
an interception, and for the first thirty minutes it just
kind of felt like you're fighting uphill against an avalanche.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
It did feel that way the very first play. I mean,
that defensive play to the deep over with that bang
eight that posts looking for help from the free safety
in the middle of the field. Miscommunication. You want to
make sure you have that showed up and that happens
pre snap. It doesn't happen during a play. You've already
once they come out in formation, you've already decided what
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you're gonna go ahead and do, and that has to
be communicated. That wasn't communicated. So there's a communication error.
It's not that you beat me, it's that we just
advocated our responsibility and said, hey, we just kind of
didn't do our jobs on that. And then the one
with the interception, which I thought, this compounded things because
now you're looking for the office to go ahead and
take control and take charge. I had absolutely no idea
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where Bryce was throwing the ball, and I was trying
to give him the benefit of the doubt, and what
it looked like was this a bad overthrow to an interception.
And now that further compounds things. So this is not
the way you want to start at all, not one bit,
because now you got to crawl from a hole in
a game where you thought going to the game that oh,
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this is a good chance we can win this game.
This this is a Winnabow game, no doubt about that.
But now you're down ten to nothing, seventeen nothing, and
that it was an avalanche. Now you can't get up,
and now nothing looks good and now your game plan
goes all off the window offensively. So this is what
this is not what coach Kanalis had in mind when
he went down to a Land I mean to Tampa,
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I mean New Orleans, New Orleans. Then in the NFC.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
South it's like all three teams.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Yeah, but this is not what this is not what
he had in mind.
Speaker 6 (03:44):
And you start touching by a point I was going
to bring up to you and ask you more in
detail about is that you know in pretty much every
team kind of has a general scripts, and again it's
based on down and distance and situations and turnovers and
things that change it. But you're right, let's like you
kind of prepare for this game more than usual, like
for for weeks out because it's the first game and
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now you're in that grind where it's a tighter window
to prepare. You have all these preparations, all these ideas
in your mind of like how you're going to roll
that script out there, what you're gonna do defensively as
far as base stuff though, and you look up and
it's seventeen. Nothing that's that doesn't change everything, but it
changes a lot of things, and one gets me thirty
to nothing. It certainly changes pretty much everything at that point, right.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
It changes everything because then you get guys on the
sideline kind of yelling at each other a little bit,
Hey you got to do oh you. First, you get
that talk from one of the leaders, one of the
leaders gonna talk, Hey, we gotta do this, we gotta
do this, we gotta do that. You're gonna always get
that talk, all right, But then when that tells what
sets then is you get despondent. And now you think, man,
we can't do anything. Man, you're looking for a spark,
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You're looking for a play to go ahead and turn
the tide. But it's not gonna come. And you can't
say to this and these this photos game out the window.
Win a lot better than that because there were too
many glaring problems that coach Canalis has to go ahead
and fix, you know. So everyone in that locker room,
and I've been on a two and fourteenth season and
I've been in blowout games like that we didn't play well. Hey,
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you got to be true to yourself, say the truth.
If you're the guy, you're the guy, you gotta be better.
Be better go stay after the practice. More, stay after
the practice. But you got to do your job because
somebody else will do that job, because they will replace
you in a heartbeat. Nobody's job is safe on that one.
Everybody's replaceable.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah, they have an expression, tell the truth today. You
watch the film and you see what the film reveals,
and a lot of times coaches will look at the
film and then make their assessment. Dave Canalis is with us,
and Dave, you've now had a chance to sort of
digest that film in terms of the truth that was revealed.
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What jumped out to you after watching the film?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Yeah, I mean, first we have to just go right
to the critical variables of football. The ball, we turn
it over three times. We recovered a punt at the end,
but the game was way out of hand, so it
really didn't have a factor for us. And then we
gave up twelve explosive plays on defense and offensively, we
only created four and about two of those were kind
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of later in the game, So you know, those two
really are huge determinants, you know, for winning and losing.
And then when you move on to the other situations
third down, you know, we were three of thirteen third
and fourth down, and uh, you know, the Saints were
about fifty four percent on us in those situations, and
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then we were one of two in the red zone.
There were four for four. So those are all the
critical variables. They beat us in every area of those things,
and that's a recipe for a really lopsided loss in So,
you know, the first message for me to the team is, hey,
let's get these factors that we can work on right here.
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Let's get the fundamentals of football online. Let's get our
football where we need it to be, so then we
can really become the identity that we want, you know,
because once you're playing from behind, it takes you out
of out of the mentality of being able to run
the ball, the play actions and all the things we
really hope to do. And defensively, you know, we just
if we can't win first down we put ourselves in
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and they're in manageable situations. We're not in past situations
where we can really affect the quarterback and you know,
try to create plays that way.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Coach, how many of the explosive plays and I'm thinking defensively,
of course, how many of those plays are communication errors?
And also edge control errors that can easily be corrected,
but you have to go ahead and make a point
that the guys in the locker room get and understand
that this is correctable from the standpoint of communication, and
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that's control, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
And I'm glad you brought that up, Eugene, because some
of them did come to really basic communications within our scheme.
Speaker 7 (07:49):
And some of them.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Were leverage type of plays, you know, guys trying to
make a play versus just maintaining your leverage and squeezing
it to your health, you know, with whether it was
the run game or the pass game. You know, it
was a kind of mix of a it was a
mix of both, you know. And but the thing is
when you watch the film and I watch it and
talk to a Jarro and talk to the defensive staffers,
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like the breakdown is here, fundamentally, you know, we got
a reach block on this one. This guy's overplaying it,
this guy underplayed it, you know. So there's all these
kind of spots, you know that it showed up, and
so there's correctable things for us on both sides of it,
really and then but at the same time, we have
to like also just be honest that they had a
fantastic scheme. They the Saints executed well, they got their
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bought of their playmakers. We didn't do that with consistency,
and so just all around we got out coached, we
got outplayed, and then that's just the brass tacks of it.
But then you throw on the turnovers, a block punt,
a big return, and it's like, we didn't really give
ourselves a chance.
Speaker 6 (08:54):
And Dave, you bring up a number of things that
obviously have to be addressed to the team knows that
as well. But because you know, a big component of
what people know about you is the quarterback play and
where you come from in the past. From that and
being an offensive coordinator, how do you handle a young
quarterback who, for his part of it, had a rough
day and his psyche and moving forward with that.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Yeah, this is this is a learning process and a
lot of it is just learning Bryce in games with
these with our players and really honing in our offense,
you know, over the course of these games, to really
get it to be to fit into his willhouse of
things he's going to be really confident with. And these
are valuable, you know, opportunities to be able to put
stuff out there and to see what we can function
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that way, and so, you know, and just going through
the film and talking with Bryce, it's the same thing.
It's you know, he graded out really well with his footwork.
So I'm glad that happened. I think there was four
or five throws that he makes, you know, and I
wanted to make sure he knew that, Like, shoot, I
fully expect you to make all these plays that I
know you're capable to make. And they made it hard
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on us. They challenged everything, like we talked about. They
challenged us up front on the line of scrimmage, they
challenged us outside in the perimeter playing man, and we
did not make the connections that we needed to consistently.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
A coach to follow up on Bryce, how would you
evaluate in terms of how quickly he got rid of
the football? Was it the two point seven? Was it
to your liking?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
And when he wasn't he was moving And the one
the touchdown drive that we had, he moved because the
first part of the play was covered. He moved, took
fine work and he found guys down the field and
it took us all the way down inside the three
on that long catch Domingo and we were able to
take some shots at the at the end zone at
that point. You know, because of the score, I knew
we were in a four down deal. We're going to
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have four shots at it. But you know, we operate
within that, We operate within that time frame. So you
know about how much you can expect this pocket to
have integrity. And then after that, you got to go
and you got to be on the move. And you know,
some of those movement throws were the ones that that
I know he can hit that we kind of missed on.
But you know, I thought the protection in the pocket
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was was decent. We still have, you know, there were
still some some wins and losses here and there, but
you know, I thought the ball was coming up with
decisiveness and if he wasn't, he was moving on and
he was taking his body out of the pocket to
try to make plays.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah, so is it fair to say, you know, when
you watch the film and you're evaluating, Okay, here's where
a couple of the mistakes happened, or you could have
been better, But when you watch those throws in your eyes,
you say, these are throws were confident he can make.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Absolutely fully confident. And that's the thing too, is just
the messaging for the whole group, not just Bryce, but
the messaging for the whole group is let's get our
fundamentals where they need to be so that we can
take advantage of these plays and see where it gets us,
you know. And so we still have that out there.
And of course, you know, just treating one game is
one game, but I certainly think that you know, there's
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on both sides of the ball. You know, there's play
that we can make and that we will make.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Coach, when it comes to pre snap communication and what
didn't it did not take place? Where are the voices
in the locker room? And where do you expect that
to come from? For guys to go ahead and self
correct in the different units, whether we're talking defense a
lot uh defensive front linebackers and secondary.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Yeah, this is a really accountable group, you know. And
you know, from an offensive line standpoint, you know, those
guys were communicating the whole time. They were you know,
through the game with the challenges like hey, let's keep playing.
I had a couple of calls in there that I
would love to have back. I put us in some
dissadvantageous looks in terms of the run game. Uh, two
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times where you know, they had a better call than
I did. That happens in games. You know, there were
a couple of you know, path protection situations. We just
made it too easy for the stints and uh, Damian Lewis,
Austin Corbett, two really vocal guys, confident guys that are
were just really positive and challengeing in the same way,
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you know, Adam Feeling, you know, like let's just you know,
the passionate place with you know, and you know, coming
off to the sideline and like just you know, really
saying like, guys, we got to keep we gotta battle,
you know, and with all the man coverage we're facing defensively,
you know, the safety group, you know with Nick Scott,
you know, and certainly Jordan Fuller, you know, and those
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guys just taking the accountability for the things they could
have done, and Xavier, you know, and j C being
accountable for his stuff, Jadevian talking up front, Derek, you know, Shaq,
there's a bunch of guys that are built the right way,
with the right messaging. And the thing I like is
that we did it together. It was it was a
collective conversation where it's like, this is what we need
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to do to take the next step.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
And coach in the news today unfortunately an injury and
I know they're still gathering information on it about Derek Brown,
but obviously one of your best players in a team
captain And for folks who work all day, don't see
your press conferences at the podium that kind of thing.
What can you kind of tell the fans right now
about about Derek and kind of with the state of
where things are with that right now.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Yeah, so Derek's gonna get he's getting a second opinion
right now on on his injury, and you know that
has not happened yet, so I don't want to comment
too much about that. So you know, in his mind,
he wanted to make sure that they cross every t dot,
every eye before it becomes a longer term decision. And
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so you know, again just like in these types of situation,
like my concern goes directly for Derek, My concern goes
directly for him, not at the impact that it has
on our team. We'll deal with that. Well, we'll talk
through that and we'll figure out, you know, the steps there.
But first and foremost, like let's make sure that this
young man with all this football that he has in
front of him, makes the right decision based on the
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information we gather. So the group certainly felt it. And
again just the guy that just played all the way
to the end. I mean, you should see these guys
playing the run in a fourth quarter in.
Speaker 7 (14:57):
A huge, huge loss.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
And the way that we can continue to attack the football,
tackle and play tough the whole way through like it
starts with Derek and his effort in the way he
approaches his work every day, and we're expecting that that
impact carries over with our group as we point to
the style of football that we want to play.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
With home opener this Sunday against the LA Chargers. Coach,
wish you all the best this week and preparing for
Los Angeles and that offense and that defense. Appreciate you
coming on.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Here all right, thanks guys.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Coach Dave Canalis, head coach of the Carolina Panthers. Again,
he was pretty honest in terms of what wrong what
needs to be fixed. Offensively, I think we all know
better quarterback play is something you need to see against
the Chargers. But defensively, the Saints Jim scored on their
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first nine possessions, and you face a Chargers team that
is going to be committed to running the ball. A
lot of wide receivers around, justin Herbert, but they ran JK.
Dobbins and they ran the ball in the second half
against the Raiders. Didn't work early, they stayed with it
without Derek Brown, and we'll talk more about it and
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later in the show. The Chargers are gonna come to Charlotte,
are gonna run the football?
Speaker 6 (16:17):
Yeah, And Gus Edwards and Jim Marble coming out of
the Big Ten. That Michigan mentality, being a Michigan man,
and that's kind of been his m throughout his career.
And I think that's the first thing you tested, you know, coach,
you say this, you got to run the ball, you
got to stop the run, and those are kind of
football one oh one basics of what you have to
do to win a game. They're gonna test that first
to see if you are sound or not there, and
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then they could open up, as you said, Herbert going
through for just a little bit over one hundred yards
of the game. So they're not dynamic as much in
that passing, but then they control the game.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Though they played great.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
Defense, run the ball, Eugene that you know, you've got
to be prepared for that. And for this team there's
that was probably the bigges surprise to me, honestly about
of everything. It's like I thought, with a young offense
and a young quarterback there could be some growing pain.
This defense was kind of plug and play with the
new guys that came in that had in many cases
of background with a arrow there. See, weren't anticipating to be,
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you know, that much of a struggle on the defensive
side as it was per week one.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Anyways, I thought it would be the defense would be strong.
But now the fact that Derek Brown I understand that
he has an MCL that makes sense to me because
I was like, why is he aniscus meniscus? I said,
why is he getting pushed off the ball? That doesn't
happen to him, not even on a double team. And
I was like, well, okay, they've established the line of scrimmage,
and so the only thing I can think of is
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but he must be hurt and not say anything. That's
the only thing you can think of as a as
a ball player. And so now knowing that one of
your top guys may be injured and then now you
got to find somebody else to do that job. You
better get ready for somebody to run this ball up
and down your throat. And Dobb has had one hundred
and thirty five yards for the touchdown ten carries. That's
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thirteen point five O clip.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
It's going to be a group effort. There is no
you have under one replacement for a guy who step
up with as dominant as Derek Brown was a year ago.
All Right, more to do here on Panther Talk. We'll
hear from Pete utt Tillman, who spoke with Jim Zoki,
Tom Lougan, Bill and I on our podcast earlier, spoke
about what Bryce Young is in store for. We'll talk
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Speaker 3 (18:32):
You know, the message to the team was just a
loss is a loss. So it could have been by
three points or could have been the huge margin that
we had today, and we have to treat it as such.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
That was a loss.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Let's go to the film and let's look at what
we can fix, what we can improve on. Certainly, you know,
elimiting the turnovers, certainly on defense, you know, the communication
and you know, really you know, just minimizing the explosive place.
But you know, in general, the feel of the guys
was just a kind of you know, it was a
group that was together that said, I gotta do better.
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I got to play better. You know, there's everything. There's
stuff that we all got to work on, you know,
from a game plan standpoint as a coaching staff on
both sides, we got to do better, you know. And
so it was just that's what I appreciated the most
about being in there with those guys was just they
didn't quit. They played hard all the way to the end,
hammering the runs at the end, all the way through
with our guys playing out there, and so I really
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appreciated that response, which give us the best chance to
just take the next step then improve.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
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With Jim Zki and Eugene Robinson. A Nis Schraff here
on the Carolina Panthers Radio Network. Carolina coming off a
forty seven to ten loss in week one to New Orleans,
you turn your attention to the Chargers, and we got
into this at the tail end of the last segment
the challenge. Now, Derek Brown, we assume will be out
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at least a couple of months. Jalen Ramsey had a
similar injury. He missed three months. So if it's that
type of injury, you know, maybe you get Brown back
late in the season, but at least for the foreseeable future.
You get the sense this injury is serious enough where
he's going to be out. And I look at what
the Raiders have, what the Bengals have, the opponent's coming up.
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I think teams are gonna try to do what New
Orleans did, which is they're gonna run the ball and
they're going to dare Carolina to stop the run. And
your best run stopper was Derek Brown. So let's start
with the defensive side of the ball. I know we'll
get into the offense, we'll talk quarterback, but from the
defensive side. Nine possessions, the first nine possessions for the Saints,
they scored. Now you remove Derek Brown from the equation,
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where do you start in terms of picking up the
pieces on the defensive side.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Well, first of all, if a team's gonna come in
here and run and you run a three four scheme,
you're gonna have to get into an eagle front. Ego
front means that you're gonna have the guard, both guards
covered up with that, with the center covering up, and
then you have guys on the outside of the time
right there you're gonna bring down that uh that strong
side linebacker on that on that on that tight end.
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You're gonna have to have eight men up at the
line of scrimmage and they're gonna do You can do stunts,
and you can do some twists, and you can do
some slants and things of that nature. But in that
ego front, everybody has to do their job and the
edge control has to be paramount. And then you where
you're vulnerable at is that with that eight man front,
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now you have three people in the back corner corner
and the safety and now you've got to go man
man coverage. And that's where you become vulnerable at. If
you go ego, you gotta go man and man coverage,
you get vulnerable. Now. They can they like to move guys,
but I think they're gonna go to a run, get
an eight man front and get them all down there
and stop the run. And if you can do that,
then we can worry about the pass a little later.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
That flip side, Jim, I think Carolina almost has to
turn this the other way around. If you can't establish
the run, which they weren't able to do, you can
shorten the game and you can can take a little
pressure off your defense.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
And it was something that was stated before we ever
got to a first preseason game, is this team's identity
is gonna be running the ball for us. All has
talked about Bryce Young is that that's not a change.
I was a dynamic they talked about long ago that
there could be a running team and they got multiple
backs who can run the ball. They invested heavily in
the interior offensive line to be able to do that
kind of a thing.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
So yeah, I would.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
Expect that that they're going to try to establish that.
And then Eugene, if you are successful there, that makes
it easier on the quarterback because it sets up play action.
It sets up like things that are you know, maybe
more safer routes to throw, and then you get your
confidence going, you get a rhythm, go, and I think
Price seems like a rhythm guy like that. A little
bit of success we've seen him have, like say in
that preseason game, the Green Bay game, a quarter in Miami,
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some of the.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Better times he's played.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
It feels like when he's got a little snap in
rhythm to what he's doing his feet or better, he
gets out of the pocket and he just plays a
little air of confidence when when things are going well.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
I totally agree, and I think the other thing's going
to have to happen is that you've got to have
to pick up the blitz. We would blitz about four times.
It was Taylor slash nickelback coming in there and making
a huge sacks, three huge sacks, and then we didn't
even get to pick up on that. And so the
miscommunication that happened in the on the offense side of
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the ball, that has to get cleaned up. So to
give Bryce that time to get the ball out very
very quickly, Coach Canallis wants to get him out and
get the ball out in two point six to two
point nine seconds. All right, that's coming out very very quick. Well,
when they blitz, you gotta be able to pick up
the blitz, and that has to happen. If it doesn't happen,
Bryce is gonna be looking up, looking up the ceiling
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because he's gonna be on his back.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
And you have to address the elephants in the room.
You got a home game on Sunday. I think you
can sense it and hear it from the fan base.
You gotta get off to a good start.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Oh no doubt this fans are gonna be looking for
them to get off the get start and to throw
that game behind and to go ahead and come out
and just bust this Charger team that's coming up. The
fans are gonna be stoked up and ready to do it.
There's no doubt about that. The team is gonna have
to go ahead and be ready to meet that same
energy that you're want to get from initially from the fans. Now,
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you can't come out there and do nothing. You have
to do.
Speaker 7 (24:15):
You go.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
You gotta show something. You gotta show some variety, you
gotta show some energy, you gotta show some enthusiasm. And
I'm looking for a big hit, a big hit or
interception or a big fumble dropping them inn that turns
the tide immediately immediately from a defensive standpoint, and from
a fan standpoint, a big play.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
What's hard about this first game is that it was
all three phases that failed to varying degrees. Is like sometimes,
you know, like last year, the defense picked up the
offense with a lot more occasions. So you go, all right, defense,
you're good, but we need you to be great. We
need you not to knock it down. We need you
to pick it off and maybe return it for a touchdown.
In this case, it's more like it's all three phases.
So so everyone just needs to do their job and
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just get it between the rails once again and then
you can kind of, you know, fire tune it from there.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
You're just fan based on your side by a big
play early in the game.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah, I mean they want to cheer, they want to forget,
they want to flush, just like we do. Give them
that opportunity, especially early in the game. Panther Talk continues
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played one year with the Carolina Panthers, but he happened
to pick the best of the thirty years, the team
that went seventeen and one heading into Super Bowl fifty
back in twenty fifteen. Peanut Tilman, the great defensive back
famous for the Peanut punch, played twelve years for the
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what happened in Super Bowl fifty with the Great Peanut Tilman,
is we take a look back at three decades of
Panthers football.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Wow, thirty seasons of Panther Football. A celebration of the players, coaches,
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Speaker 6 (26:12):
Peter Tillman, he was only here one season, but man,
what a season twenty fifteen. You got the team there
with what you did, You're part of it there. But
that last regular season game with the knee injury, I mean,
how frustrating was that to you know, you cheer on
your teammates, but to not be able to participate after that, Oh.
Speaker 8 (26:28):
You know, that was the last snap I ever played,
And to this day, I've never seen that play. I
need to watch it. I think I'm ready to. I
mean twenty fifteen, I think it's was a twenty twenty four.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
I think I'm.
Speaker 8 (26:38):
Finally ready to watch that play.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
And I was.
Speaker 8 (26:42):
Telling I was telling Stewie just now, I was on
his podcast. I've only been in the citium one other time,
but today I walked out to the I walked out
to the field.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
And kind of got a little emotional.
Speaker 8 (26:54):
I was like, dang, this is the last time I
ever played a snap and I remember where it happened
at that far end, and I just I literally I
sat there for a minute, was just like damn, and
it just it took me back and it was, you know,
I had I had a little moment, but it was
just like, damn, I can't believe Yeah, this this is
the last time I'd ever played it, played it down
and it was it was sad for a minute, and
then I just kind of like, all right, yeah, I
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can't get that back. But it was, yeah, I don't
know where I'm going with that, but it just was
a little currell to kind of come back and see it.
It was it was kind of a triggering in a sense.
But I am glad to be back, though, I'm glad
to be back to see all my teammates and just
to I was only here one year, but I think
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I made an impact for that one year with that team,
and we all tell, you know, great stories. And truly
my role coming in my thirteenth season, I was just
the mood. I lightened the mood all the time, like
Roman was the He was the calm, quiet leader. He
could get everyone to calm It's like, hey, we're good.
We get guys calmed down, will we be good? My
(28:01):
TD obviously is TD, It's his team. He was like
the Leonidas leader on defense. Cam was that on offense. Defensively,
my job was just to keep everyone like in a
loose mood when we all got tight and too serious
to start yelling each other. My job, my role, I
(28:21):
gotta tell a joke. I gotta make us laugh. I
gotta make us remember why are we here. I gotta
make us remember like yo, we're fifteen and one, Like,
let's calm down, guys. Like my job was was the entertainment,
keep every keep the mood light. Let's not get too serious.
But when we need to be serious, we'll be serious.
But in the interim, yo, let's just take it easy, guys.
(28:45):
Let's and I was that was like, that was my role,
and I embraced it and it worked out. Coaches loved
it because coaches would get tight and they would get
all too serious, and then I just had to I
was really good at just timing up like jokes or
saying certain things at the right time, and then everyone
would laugh in a second.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 8 (29:07):
And it was just yeah, man, we had something very special.
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We'll look back at a player's journey who got to
the Panthers. On today's show, we talked about Bryce, and
you're already starting to see that he's going to become
now a little bit of a lynchpin here in a
year two of criticism where the rookie shield is off,
and if he struggles, people are going to have their
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clickbait pieces, they're going to have their hot takes about him.
We're only one game into the season. Tom Lougan Bill
with some strong perspective on it, having played the quarterback
position in college, well, I think.
Speaker 9 (30:26):
It is entirely revolves around mental toughness and competitive temperament,
two things that aren't coached right, two things.
Speaker 7 (30:36):
That you don't drill in practice. There are two things
that you must have to deal with the ebbs and
flows of the position. There's going to be highs, there's
going to be lows.
Speaker 9 (30:45):
There's going to be a distinct amount of criticism. There's
going to be finger pointing. There can be locker room fractures.
I'm not saying that's the case here, but all of
the things that go along with the quarterback position from
leadership perspective, is if you aren't at the top of
the heap in terms of mental toughness and competitiveness and
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things aren't going, well, you're gonna have a real hard time.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
And am I saying that.
Speaker 9 (31:10):
Bryce Young is not capable of those things or hasn't
shown those things.
Speaker 7 (31:14):
No, I'm not saying that at all.
Speaker 9 (31:15):
But what I will say is you can go all
the way back to the sixth grade, and he has
rarely had to deal with failure or struggle or high
amounts of criticism because he's always been a scenario where
number one, he's been talented, he's been smart, he's been
a playmaker, and then he's always been on the best seam.
(31:37):
And so now it's a complete different set of circumstances,
and he himself is one of many puzzle pieces involved
in a rebuilding. And whether that's the next three to
four to five weeks of seeing how he responds, seeing
how he incrementally improves, even if it's just a little
(31:59):
bit each game that gives you signs, I think that's
going to reveal a lot about how he's handling all
the what his former coach, Nick Saber would call clutter.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
There's the other part of it, which is to my
first point, right, it's one week, and again there's no
way to sugarcoat forty seven to ten. What happened happened,
and the Panthers were dominated in every fast st of
the game. But I bring that up because you called
Clemson app State over the weekend, and I thought a
(32:31):
week ago when Clemson lost to Georgia, the sky was
falling on Clemson. Yeah right, I thought, time to get
rid of Debo Sweeney. They're behind the eight ball. I
mean again, this is the stuff you hear from the
hot take people who you know, just they're trying to
make a headline and getting you to watch their video
(32:52):
or watch their YouTube channel or clickbait whatever. Right, that
was this narrative Clemson, it's over. It's doom and gloom,
and hey, I've state the killer. Uh and listen, let's
be honest, like we all were thinking it, right, we
all were thinking it. They lose to ap State like
this thing. You know, now, what's the conversation? Yeah, you
were there. What happened?
Speaker 9 (33:14):
So as with anything, and this is what the coaching
and coaching staff of the Carolina Panthers and the players
are doing. Right now, you start to really do a
deep dive into the tape to find out what's been
really what's really revealing something that maybe you didn't see
on the surface.
Speaker 7 (33:30):
Something that things. Of course the fans are not going
to see. To try to get to the root of
the problem.
Speaker 9 (33:35):
And when when we talked with Daboisweeney during the week,
you know, and I actually had done the same thing,
but he said, you know, the number one thing that
I wanted to do when watching that film is I
wanted to know were we outclassed athletically?
Speaker 7 (33:48):
No we weren't.
Speaker 9 (33:50):
Were we not tough enough, No we weren't. Did we
play with great effort? Yes we did? So what went wrong?
And as they started to peel back the layers pull
back to curt and they realized they made more errors
in coachable items than Georgia did, particularly on defense in
the second half. And then you add the performance of
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Kid Clubnick, and you start to ask yourself, Okay, can
he do this?
Speaker 7 (34:16):
Can he do this? And so.
Speaker 9 (34:21):
My analysis of Caid Club Nick, everybody is complaining about Clinton,
there's no explosive plays and know this that, And when
I went through the tape, I was like, forget about
the explosive plays. How about just taking the guineas of
guys that are wide open, standing right in front of you,
and you won't throw it to them. And we actually
in the opening of our broadcast, I had put together
(34:41):
a tape we and we put it together of just
he's right there, throw it to him. Well what lo
and behold Kate Clubnick comes out and was an entirely
different person. I mean he looked like Joe Montana. I
mean that ball was out of his hands so fast.
If the guy was open right in front of him,
he threw it right them. So clearly the comets and
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coaches were saying, you know, kind of thinking the same thing, thinking, Kay,
you know, you got to pull the trigger here, man,
you know, And he did.
Speaker 7 (35:07):
And that was a bunch of groucy tigers.
Speaker 9 (35:10):
And physically when you watch them, somebody better watch out
because they're good.
Speaker 7 (35:17):
They are good.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
And again week one they played Georgia, who might end
up being the best team in the country.
Speaker 7 (35:24):
They could do that to a lot of people, could.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Do that cool a lot of people. But you know,
it's interesting because I see the parallels where Dave Canalis
when he got to Carolina. One of the things that
he has said over and over and over again he
wants to get Bryce Young in the habit of getting
the ball out quickly. Two point seven seconds has been
that number that a year marked. And he said, we
want to build this offense where hey, the first guy
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who's open, throw it.
Speaker 7 (35:50):
To him, throw it to him.
Speaker 9 (35:52):
Yeah, it's the old take what the defense gives you,
ad it, right, And I think they had they had
drilled that into Kaye club Nick, and to his credit
it now listen, this wasn't Georgia's defense, but it wasn't
Charleston Southern either.
Speaker 7 (36:04):
Right, and so it was.
Speaker 9 (36:07):
I thought it was fairly impressive what he did the
true pressman wide receivers. It was funny how all of
a sudden those two guys start making plays, and the
rest of the guys at Clemson last week they weren't
making any plays, all of a sudden started playing good.
It was like, well, I don't want to stand over
here on the sideline. I don't want to play, so
I better make some plays on the ball when the
ball comes my way. So I you're right, I mean so.
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And here's the thing, all due respect to k Clubnick's performance,
can you.
Speaker 7 (36:33):
Do it next week?
Speaker 9 (36:34):
Can you do it the week after and then the
week after that, and then the week after that.
Speaker 7 (36:37):
And I'm not saying you have to be perfect, but
this can't be flashing the pan pipe stuff.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
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Speaker 1 (37:01):
Taking a detour from football, The world on Monday lost
one of its iconic actors, I would say its iconic voices.
James Earl Jones passed away at the age of ninety three.
Darth Vader Mufassa from Lyon King Field of Dreams coming
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to America, America King Lear.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
Yes, absolutely, just that great iconic voice that you know
that you got used to hearing all the time, and
especially because at this time our generations, we all kind
of grew up in television, grew up in movies as
opposed to what is now, and so you were accustomed
to hearing his voice.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
He was in Sad Lot too, yesh.
Speaker 6 (37:45):
Yeah, from Gave signed by all the Yankees.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Yeah, he had the Beast in his backyard. It was
a classic movie. But I think the the Vader voice,
which is probably one of the most iconic fluke in
all of cinnemon find your lack of faith, disturb.
Speaker 7 (38:09):
Man.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Just so many, just so so so many good movies
and so many good memories that we all have.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
It was a voice too. When you heard it, you
knew it.
Speaker 7 (38:17):
You know it?
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Yeah, exactly everything the light touches.
Speaker 6 (38:20):
And Morgan Freeman, like, as soon as you hear the
whatever they're in, if you see them or not, you
know who's talking.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
You know who's talking. And it made you smile.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
It's like, that's the guy you want narrating your life.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Oh wow, can you imagine it, Morgan Freeman, Oh James
Drew narrating your life. It would just be everything would
be what if you got Gilbert Gottfried?
Speaker 5 (38:41):
Is the voice tell.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
You we should not speak ill of the day? Is
Gilbert Godfrey dead?
Speaker 7 (38:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (38:50):
He passed away.
Speaker 5 (38:51):
I mean it's in the vein of what we're talking about.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Gilbert Gotfried was in He was that parrot too.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Wasn't that cartoon he was.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
The parrot was halflac duck. And then he was in
Now was the what was the John Ritter movie?
Speaker 4 (39:06):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (39:06):
With the little kid who was the troublemaker? Oh yeah,
problem child.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
Problem Child? Wow? He wasn't that one too?
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Huh yeah, James Earl Jones. They'll passed away at the
age of ninety three. We will have our next broadcast
Sunday Panthers Chargers Bank of America Stadium home opener. Again,
everyone wants to have the hot take because we've only
seen one game and we only have one game to
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react to. Eugene is is this a big game for
Bryce Young?
Speaker 4 (39:38):
This is a big game for Bryce Young. I mean,
when we looked at his demeanor on the sideline, it
just seems that I don't know, you know, it was
a bewilderment, distracted. I don't I don't know what that
looked like. I just know that that's some face and
eyes I've seen before from my teammates and myself who've
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had no bad game, So I know what that's familiar.
You have to just throw that game behind you and
you got to come out blazing, and so whatever he
has to do to get hisself ready, he has to
get himself ready because he's going to be judged so
critically and so hard by everyone.
Speaker 6 (40:16):
Everyone moving forward, well, there's a lot of areas that
have to prove from what we saw yesterday.
Speaker 5 (40:22):
So he needs to have a big game.
Speaker 6 (40:23):
But to be honest with you, these a lot of
guys that you have a big game, but we know
part of why Dave Canallas is here is his background
with quarterbacks and the offense. So there's no denying the
lead story. I think out of everything that has to
be better, even I thought the defense was the most
surprising thing yesterday As far as not being good, is
that the hope. A lot of that is centered on
the quarterback position and everything's in play when things aren't
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going well.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
As far as evaluation.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Goes in the building all off season, there was two
spoken words that we're kind of unspoken to say less.
And we can say all we want about what should happen,
what might happened, what could happen. At the end of
the day, what happens on the field that'll determine the noise.
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Speaker 3 (00:18):
You got three turnovers and you give up in the
teens and explosives. That's just the recipe before a really
lopsided game, getting a kick blocked, you know, so in
all phases, you know, we just we just have to
be really honest about where we're at today and look
at it and try to make the next step.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
For and now. Along with Jim Zoki and Eugene Robinson,
here's a Niche Shruff with Panther Talk live from the
Panthers broadcast facility at Bank of America Stereo.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
It is Monday's, September ninth, Panthers coming off their first
game of the season, not the start that any of
us wanted to the twenty twenty four campaign, a lopsided
loss at the Superdome at the hands of division rival
of New Orleans. And the big news today that has
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been dominating the headlines in Pantherland. The best player on
the team, the pro bowler from a season ago. Derek
Brown suffered a knee injury in that loss. It's a
meniscus injury. He'll be getting his second opinion and we'll
wait to see what his status is, how long he's
going to be out for. We're gonna hear from Dave
(01:29):
Knalis in a little bit talk about what happened on Sunday.
Look ahead as well, and see if there's an update
over the last couple of hours regarding Derek Brown. Eugene,
I'll start with you, sometimes there's just no way around
it right at the end of the day. Yes, it's
one game out of seventeen, but as far as season
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openers go, it just seemed like a perfect storm right
from the get go. Derek Carr hits Shaheed for that
long touchdown down. First offensive play of the season is
an interception, and for the first thirty minutes it just
kind of felt like you're fighting uphill against an avalanche.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
It did feel that way the very first play. I mean,
that defensive play to the deep over with that bang
eight that posts looking for help from the free safety
in the middle of the field. Miscommunication. You want to
make sure you have that showed up and that happens
pre snap. It doesn't happen during a play. You've already
once they come out in formation, you've already decided what
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you're gonna go ahead and do, and that has to
be communicated. That wasn't communicated. So there's a communication error.
It's not that you beat me, it's that we just
advocated our responsibility and said, hey, we just kind of
didn't do our jobs on that. And then the one
with the interception, which I thought, this compounded things because
now you're looking for the office to go ahead and
take control and take charge. I had absolutely no idea
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where Bryce was throwing the ball, and I was trying
to give him the benefit of the doubt, and what
it looked like was this a bad overthrow to an interception.
And now that further compounds things. So this is not
the way you want to start at all, not one bit,
because now you got to crawl from a hole in
a game where you thought going to the game that oh,
(03:15):
this is a good chance we can win this game.
This this is a Winnabow game, no doubt about that.
But now you're down ten to nothing, seventeen nothing, and
that it was an avalanche. Now you can't get up,
and now nothing looks good and now your game plan
goes all off the window offensively. So this is what
this is not what coach Kanalis had in mind when
he went down to a Land I mean to Tampa,
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I mean New Orleans, New Orleans. Then in the NFC.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
South it's like all three teams.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Yeah, but this is not what this is not what
he had in mind.
Speaker 6 (03:44):
And you start touching by a point I was going
to bring up to you and ask you more in
detail about is that you know in pretty much every
team kind of has a general scripts, and again it's
based on down and distance and situations and turnovers and
things that change it. But you're right, let's like you
kind of prepare for this game more than usual, like
for for weeks out because it's the first game and
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now you're in that grind where it's a tighter window
to prepare. You have all these preparations, all these ideas
in your mind of like how you're going to roll
that script out there, what you're gonna do defensively as
far as base stuff though, and you look up and
it's seventeen. Nothing that's that doesn't change everything, but it
changes a lot of things, and one gets me thirty
to nothing. It certainly changes pretty much everything at that point, right.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
It changes everything because then you get guys on the
sideline kind of yelling at each other a little bit,
Hey you got to do oh you. First, you get
that talk from one of the leaders, one of the
leaders gonna talk, Hey, we gotta do this, we gotta
do this, we gotta do that. You're gonna always get
that talk, all right, But then when that tells what
sets then is you get despondent. And now you think, man,
we can't do anything. Man, you're looking for a spark,
(04:44):
You're looking for a play to go ahead and turn
the tide. But it's not gonna come. And you can't
say to this and these this photos game out the window.
Win a lot better than that because there were too
many glaring problems that coach Canalis has to go ahead
and fix, you know. So everyone in that locker room,
and I've been on a two and fourteenth season and
I've been in blowout games like that we didn't play well. Hey,
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you got to be true to yourself, say the truth.
If you're the guy, you're the guy, you gotta be better.
Be better go stay after the practice. More, stay after
the practice. But you got to do your job because
somebody else will do that job, because they will replace
you in a heartbeat. Nobody's job is safe on that one.
Everybody's replaceable.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah, they have an expression, tell the truth today. You
watch the film and you see what the film reveals,
and a lot of times coaches will look at the
film and then make their assessment. Dave Canalis is with us,
and Dave, you've now had a chance to sort of
digest that film in terms of the truth that was revealed.
(05:44):
What jumped out to you after watching the film?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Yeah, I mean, first we have to just go right
to the critical variables of football. The ball, we turn
it over three times. We recovered a punt at the end,
but the game was way out of hand, so it
really didn't have a factor for us. And then we
gave up twelve explosive plays on defense and offensively, we
only created four and about two of those were kind
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of later in the game, So you know, those two
really are huge determinants, you know, for winning and losing.
And then when you move on to the other situations
third down, you know, we were three of thirteen third
and fourth down, and uh, you know, the Saints were
about fifty four percent on us in those situations, and
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then we were one of two in the red zone.
There were four for four. So those are all the
critical variables. They beat us in every area of those things,
and that's a recipe for a really lopsided loss in So,
you know, the first message for me to the team is, hey,
let's get these factors that we can work on right here.
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Let's get the fundamentals of football online. Let's get our
football where we need it to be, so then we
can really become the identity that we want, you know,
because once you're playing from behind, it takes you out
of out of the mentality of being able to run
the ball, the play actions and all the things we
really hope to do. And defensively, you know, we just
if we can't win first down we put ourselves in
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and they're in manageable situations. We're not in past situations
where we can really affect the quarterback and you know,
try to create plays that way.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Coach, how many of the explosive plays and I'm thinking defensively,
of course, how many of those plays are communication errors?
And also edge control errors that can easily be corrected,
but you have to go ahead and make a point
that the guys in the locker room get and understand
that this is correctable from the standpoint of communication, and
(07:40):
that's control, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
And I'm glad you brought that up, Eugene, because some
of them did come to really basic communications within our scheme.
Speaker 7 (07:49):
And some of them.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Were leverage type of plays, you know, guys trying to
make a play versus just maintaining your leverage and squeezing
it to your health, you know, with whether it was
the run game or the pass game. You know, it
was a kind of mix of a it was a
mix of both, you know. And but the thing is
when you watch the film and I watch it and
talk to a Jarro and talk to the defensive staffers,
(08:12):
like the breakdown is here, fundamentally, you know, we got
a reach block on this one. This guy's overplaying it,
this guy underplayed it, you know. So there's all these
kind of spots, you know that it showed up, and
so there's correctable things for us on both sides of it,
really and then but at the same time, we have
to like also just be honest that they had a
fantastic scheme. They the Saints executed well, they got their
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bought of their playmakers. We didn't do that with consistency,
and so just all around we got out coached, we
got outplayed, and then that's just the brass tacks of it.
But then you throw on the turnovers, a block punt,
a big return, and it's like, we didn't really give
ourselves a chance.
Speaker 6 (08:54):
And Dave, you bring up a number of things that
obviously have to be addressed to the team knows that
as well. But because you know, a big component of
what people know about you is the quarterback play and
where you come from in the past. From that and
being an offensive coordinator, how do you handle a young
quarterback who, for his part of it, had a rough
day and his psyche and moving forward with that.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Yeah, this is this is a learning process and a
lot of it is just learning Bryce in games with
these with our players and really honing in our offense,
you know, over the course of these games, to really
get it to be to fit into his willhouse of
things he's going to be really confident with. And these
are valuable, you know, opportunities to be able to put
stuff out there and to see what we can function
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that way, and so, you know, and just going through
the film and talking with Bryce, it's the same thing.
It's you know, he graded out really well with his footwork.
So I'm glad that happened. I think there was four
or five throws that he makes, you know, and I
wanted to make sure he knew that, Like, shoot, I
fully expect you to make all these plays that I
know you're capable to make. And they made it hard
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on us. They challenged everything, like we talked about. They
challenged us up front on the line of scrimmage, they
challenged us outside in the perimeter playing man, and we
did not make the connections that we needed to consistently.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
A coach to follow up on Bryce, how would you
evaluate in terms of how quickly he got rid of
the football? Was it the two point seven? Was it
to your liking?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
And when he wasn't he was moving And the one
the touchdown drive that we had, he moved because the
first part of the play was covered. He moved, took
fine work and he found guys down the field and
it took us all the way down inside the three
on that long catch Domingo and we were able to
take some shots at the at the end zone at
that point. You know, because of the score, I knew
we were in a four down deal. We're going to
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have four shots at it. But you know, we operate
within that, We operate within that time frame. So you
know about how much you can expect this pocket to
have integrity. And then after that, you got to go
and you got to be on the move. And you know,
some of those movement throws were the ones that that
I know he can hit that we kind of missed on.
But you know, I thought the protection in the pocket
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was was decent. We still have, you know, there were
still some some wins and losses here and there, but
you know, I thought the ball was coming up with
decisiveness and if he wasn't, he was moving on and
he was taking his body out of the pocket to
try to make plays.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah, so is it fair to say, you know, when
you watch the film and you're evaluating, Okay, here's where
a couple of the mistakes happened, or you could have
been better, But when you watch those throws in your eyes,
you say, these are throws were confident he can make.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Absolutely fully confident. And that's the thing too, is just
the messaging for the whole group, not just Bryce, but
the messaging for the whole group is let's get our
fundamentals where they need to be so that we can
take advantage of these plays and see where it gets us,
you know. And so we still have that out there.
And of course, you know, just treating one game is
one game, but I certainly think that you know, there's
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on both sides of the ball. You know, there's play
that we can make and that we will make.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Coach, when it comes to pre snap communication and what
didn't it did not take place? Where are the voices
in the locker room? And where do you expect that
to come from? For guys to go ahead and self
correct in the different units, whether we're talking defense a
lot uh defensive front linebackers and secondary.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Yeah, this is a really accountable group, you know. And
you know, from an offensive line standpoint, you know, those
guys were communicating the whole time. They were you know,
through the game with the challenges like hey, let's keep playing.
I had a couple of calls in there that I
would love to have back. I put us in some
dissadvantageous looks in terms of the run game. Uh, two
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times where you know, they had a better call than
I did. That happens in games. You know, there were
a couple of you know, path protection situations. We just
made it too easy for the stints and uh, Damian Lewis,
Austin Corbett, two really vocal guys, confident guys that are
were just really positive and challengeing in the same way,
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you know, Adam Feeling, you know, like let's just you know,
the passionate place with you know, and you know, coming
off to the sideline and like just you know, really
saying like, guys, we got to keep we gotta battle,
you know, and with all the man coverage we're facing defensively,
you know, the safety group, you know with Nick Scott,
you know, and certainly Jordan Fuller, you know, and those
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guys just taking the accountability for the things they could
have done, and Xavier, you know, and j C being
accountable for his stuff, Jadevian talking up front, Derek, you know, Shaq,
there's a bunch of guys that are built the right way,
with the right messaging. And the thing I like is
that we did it together. It was it was a
collective conversation where it's like, this is what we need
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to do to take the next step.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
And coach in the news today unfortunately an injury and
I know they're still gathering information on it about Derek Brown,
but obviously one of your best players in a team
captain And for folks who work all day, don't see
your press conferences at the podium that kind of thing.
What can you kind of tell the fans right now
about about Derek and kind of with the state of
where things are with that right now.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Yeah, so Derek's gonna get he's getting a second opinion
right now on on his injury, and you know that
has not happened yet, so I don't want to comment
too much about that. So you know, in his mind,
he wanted to make sure that they cross every t dot,
every eye before it becomes a longer term decision. And
(14:24):
so you know, again just like in these types of situation,
like my concern goes directly for Derek, My concern goes
directly for him, not at the impact that it has
on our team. We'll deal with that. Well, we'll talk
through that and we'll figure out, you know, the steps there.
But first and foremost, like let's make sure that this
young man with all this football that he has in
front of him, makes the right decision based on the
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information we gather. So the group certainly felt it. And
again just the guy that just played all the way
to the end. I mean, you should see these guys
playing the run in a fourth quarter in.
Speaker 7 (14:57):
A huge, huge loss.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
And the way that we can continue to attack the football,
tackle and play tough the whole way through like it
starts with Derek and his effort in the way he
approaches his work every day, and we're expecting that that
impact carries over with our group as we point to
the style of football that we want to play.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
With home opener this Sunday against the LA Chargers. Coach,
wish you all the best this week and preparing for
Los Angeles and that offense and that defense. Appreciate you
coming on.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Here all right, thanks guys.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Coach Dave Canalis, head coach of the Carolina Panthers. Again,
he was pretty honest in terms of what wrong what
needs to be fixed. Offensively, I think we all know
better quarterback play is something you need to see against
the Chargers. But defensively, the Saints Jim scored on their
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first nine possessions, and you face a Chargers team that
is going to be committed to running the ball. A
lot of wide receivers around, justin Herbert, but they ran JK.
Dobbins and they ran the ball in the second half
against the Raiders. Didn't work early, they stayed with it
without Derek Brown, and we'll talk more about it and
(16:12):
later in the show. The Chargers are gonna come to Charlotte,
are gonna run the football?
Speaker 6 (16:17):
Yeah, And Gus Edwards and Jim Marble coming out of
the Big Ten. That Michigan mentality, being a Michigan man,
and that's kind of been his m throughout his career.
And I think that's the first thing you tested, you know, coach,
you say this, you got to run the ball, you
got to stop the run, and those are kind of
football one oh one basics of what you have to
do to win a game. They're gonna test that first
to see if you are sound or not there, and
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then they could open up, as you said, Herbert going
through for just a little bit over one hundred yards
of the game. So they're not dynamic as much in
that passing, but then they control the game.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Though they played great.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
Defense, run the ball, Eugene that you know, you've got
to be prepared for that. And for this team there's
that was probably the bigges surprise to me, honestly about
of everything. It's like I thought, with a young offense
and a young quarterback there could be some growing pain.
This defense was kind of plug and play with the
new guys that came in that had in many cases
of background with a arrow there. See, weren't anticipating to be,
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you know, that much of a struggle on the defensive
side as it was per week one.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Anyways, I thought it would be the defense would be strong.
But now the fact that Derek Brown I understand that
he has an MCL that makes sense to me because
I was like, why is he aniscus meniscus? I said,
why is he getting pushed off the ball? That doesn't
happen to him, not even on a double team. And
I was like, well, okay, they've established the line of scrimmage,
and so the only thing I can think of is
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but he must be hurt and not say anything. That's
the only thing you can think of as a as
a ball player. And so now knowing that one of
your top guys may be injured and then now you
got to find somebody else to do that job. You
better get ready for somebody to run this ball up
and down your throat. And Dobb has had one hundred
and thirty five yards for the touchdown ten carries. That's
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thirteen point five O clip.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
It's going to be a group effort. There is no
you have under one replacement for a guy who step
up with as dominant as Derek Brown was a year ago.
All Right, more to do here on Panther Talk. We'll
hear from Pete utt Tillman, who spoke with Jim Zoki,
Tom Lougan, Bill and I on our podcast earlier, spoke
about what Bryce Young is in store for. We'll talk
(18:17):
about the Chargers game coming up on Sunday as well.
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Speaker 2 (18:28):
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Speaker 3 (18:32):
You know, the message to the team was just a
loss is a loss. So it could have been by
three points or could have been the huge margin that
we had today, and we have to treat it as such.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
That was a loss.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Let's go to the film and let's look at what
we can fix, what we can improve on. Certainly, you know,
elimiting the turnovers, certainly on defense, you know, the communication
and you know, really you know, just minimizing the explosive place.
But you know, in general, the feel of the guys
was just a kind of you know, it was a
group that was together that said, I gotta do better.
(19:03):
I got to play better. You know, there's everything. There's
stuff that we all got to work on, you know,
from a game plan standpoint as a coaching staff on
both sides, we got to do better, you know. And
so it was just that's what I appreciated the most
about being in there with those guys was just they
didn't quit. They played hard all the way to the end,
hammering the runs at the end, all the way through
with our guys playing out there, and so I really
(19:24):
appreciated that response, which give us the best chance to
just take the next step then improve.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Panther Talk continues on the Carolina Panthers Radio Network.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
With Jim Zki and Eugene Robinson. A Nis Schraff here
on the Carolina Panthers Radio Network. Carolina coming off a
forty seven to ten loss in week one to New Orleans,
you turn your attention to the Chargers, and we got
into this at the tail end of the last segment
the challenge. Now, Derek Brown, we assume will be out
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at least a couple of months. Jalen Ramsey had a
similar injury. He missed three months. So if it's that
type of injury, you know, maybe you get Brown back
late in the season, but at least for the foreseeable future.
You get the sense this injury is serious enough where
he's going to be out. And I look at what
the Raiders have, what the Bengals have, the opponent's coming up.
(20:17):
I think teams are gonna try to do what New
Orleans did, which is they're gonna run the ball and
they're going to dare Carolina to stop the run. And
your best run stopper was Derek Brown. So let's start
with the defensive side of the ball. I know we'll
get into the offense, we'll talk quarterback, but from the
defensive side. Nine possessions, the first nine possessions for the Saints,
they scored. Now you remove Derek Brown from the equation,
(20:41):
where do you start in terms of picking up the
pieces on the defensive side.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Well, first of all, if a team's gonna come in
here and run and you run a three four scheme,
you're gonna have to get into an eagle front. Ego
front means that you're gonna have the guard, both guards
covered up with that, with the center covering up, and
then you have guys on the outside of the time
right there you're gonna bring down that uh that strong
side linebacker on that on that on that tight end.
(21:06):
You're gonna have to have eight men up at the
line of scrimmage and they're gonna do You can do stunts,
and you can do some twists, and you can do
some slants and things of that nature. But in that
ego front, everybody has to do their job and the
edge control has to be paramount. And then you where
you're vulnerable at is that with that eight man front,
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now you have three people in the back corner corner
and the safety and now you've got to go man
man coverage. And that's where you become vulnerable at. If
you go ego, you gotta go man and man coverage,
you get vulnerable. Now. They can they like to move guys,
but I think they're gonna go to a run, get
an eight man front and get them all down there
and stop the run. And if you can do that,
then we can worry about the pass a little later.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
That flip side, Jim, I think Carolina almost has to
turn this the other way around. If you can't establish
the run, which they weren't able to do, you can
shorten the game and you can can take a little
pressure off your defense.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
And it was something that was stated before we ever
got to a first preseason game, is this team's identity
is gonna be running the ball for us. All has
talked about Bryce Young is that that's not a change.
I was a dynamic they talked about long ago that
there could be a running team and they got multiple
backs who can run the ball. They invested heavily in
the interior offensive line to be able to do that
kind of a thing.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
So yeah, I would.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
Expect that that they're going to try to establish that.
And then Eugene, if you are successful there, that makes
it easier on the quarterback because it sets up play action.
It sets up like things that are you know, maybe
more safer routes to throw, and then you get your
confidence going, you get a rhythm, go, and I think
Price seems like a rhythm guy like that. A little
bit of success we've seen him have, like say in
that preseason game, the Green Bay game, a quarter in Miami,
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some of the.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Better times he's played.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
It feels like when he's got a little snap in
rhythm to what he's doing his feet or better, he
gets out of the pocket and he just plays a
little air of confidence when when things are going well.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
I totally agree, and I think the other thing's going
to have to happen is that you've got to have
to pick up the blitz. We would blitz about four times.
It was Taylor slash nickelback coming in there and making
a huge sacks, three huge sacks, and then we didn't
even get to pick up on that. And so the
miscommunication that happened in the on the offense side of
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the ball, that has to get cleaned up. So to
give Bryce that time to get the ball out very
very quickly, Coach Canallis wants to get him out and
get the ball out in two point six to two
point nine seconds. All right, that's coming out very very quick. Well,
when they blitz, you gotta be able to pick up
the blitz, and that has to happen. If it doesn't happen,
Bryce is gonna be looking up, looking up the ceiling
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because he's gonna be on his back.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
And you have to address the elephants in the room.
You got a home game on Sunday. I think you
can sense it and hear it from the fan base.
You gotta get off to a good start.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Oh no doubt this fans are gonna be looking for
them to get off the get start and to throw
that game behind and to go ahead and come out
and just bust this Charger team that's coming up. The
fans are gonna be stoked up and ready to do it.
There's no doubt about that. The team is gonna have
to go ahead and be ready to meet that same
energy that you're want to get from initially from the fans. Now,
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you can't come out there and do nothing. You have
to do.
Speaker 7 (24:15):
You go.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
You gotta show something. You gotta show some variety, you
gotta show some energy, you gotta show some enthusiasm. And
I'm looking for a big hit, a big hit or
interception or a big fumble dropping them inn that turns
the tide immediately immediately from a defensive standpoint, and from
a fan standpoint, a big play.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
What's hard about this first game is that it was
all three phases that failed to varying degrees. Is like sometimes,
you know, like last year, the defense picked up the
offense with a lot more occasions. So you go, all right, defense,
you're good, but we need you to be great. We
need you not to knock it down. We need you
to pick it off and maybe return it for a touchdown.
In this case, it's more like it's all three phases.
So so everyone just needs to do their job and
(24:56):
just get it between the rails once again and then
you can kind of, you know, fire tune it from there.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
You're just fan based on your side by a big
play early in the game.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah, I mean they want to cheer, they want to forget,
they want to flush, just like we do. Give them
that opportunity, especially early in the game. Panther Talk continues
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Speaker 6 (26:12):
Peter Tillman, he was only here one season, but man,
what a season twenty fifteen. You got the team there
with what you did, You're part of it there. But
that last regular season game with the knee injury, I mean,
how frustrating was that to you know, you cheer on
your teammates, but to not be able to participate after that, Oh.
Speaker 8 (26:28):
You know, that was the last snap I ever played,
And to this day, I've never seen that play. I
need to watch it. I think I'm ready to. I
mean twenty fifteen, I think it's was a twenty twenty four.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
I think I'm.
Speaker 8 (26:38):
Finally ready to watch that play.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
And I was.
Speaker 8 (26:42):
Telling I was telling Stewie just now, I was on
his podcast. I've only been in the citium one other time,
but today I walked out to the I walked out
to the field.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
And kind of got a little emotional.
Speaker 8 (26:54):
I was like, dang, this is the last time I
ever played a snap and I remember where it happened
at that far end, and I just I literally I
sat there for a minute, was just like damn, and
it just it took me back and it was, you know,
I had I had a little moment, but it was
just like, damn, I can't believe Yeah, this this is
the last time I'd ever played it, played it down
and it was it was sad for a minute, and
then I just kind of like, all right, yeah, I
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can't get that back. But it was, yeah, I don't
know where I'm going with that, but it just was
a little currell to kind of come back and see it.
It was it was kind of a triggering in a sense.
But I am glad to be back, though, I'm glad
to be back to see all my teammates and just
to I was only here one year, but I think
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I made an impact for that one year with that team,
and we all tell, you know, great stories. And truly
my role coming in my thirteenth season, I was just
the mood. I lightened the mood all the time, like
Roman was the He was the calm, quiet leader. He
could get everyone to calm It's like, hey, we're good.
We get guys calmed down, will we be good? My
(28:01):
TD obviously is TD, It's his team. He was like
the Leonidas leader on defense. Cam was that on offense. Defensively,
my job was just to keep everyone like in a
loose mood when we all got tight and too serious
to start yelling each other. My job, my role, I
(28:21):
gotta tell a joke. I gotta make us laugh. I
gotta make us remember why are we here. I gotta
make us remember like yo, we're fifteen and one, Like,
let's calm down, guys. Like my job was was the entertainment,
keep every keep the mood light. Let's not get too serious.
But when we need to be serious, we'll be serious.
But in the interim, yo, let's just take it easy, guys.
(28:45):
Let's and I was that was like, that was my role,
and I embraced it and it worked out. Coaches loved
it because coaches would get tight and they would get
all too serious, and then I just had to I
was really good at just timing up like jokes or
saying certain things at the right time, and then everyone
would laugh in a second.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 8 (29:07):
And it was just yeah, man, we had something very special.
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We'll look back at a player's journey who got to
the Panthers. On today's show, we talked about Bryce, and
you're already starting to see that he's going to become
now a little bit of a lynchpin here in a
year two of criticism where the rookie shield is off,
and if he struggles, people are going to have their
(30:14):
clickbait pieces, they're going to have their hot takes about him.
We're only one game into the season. Tom Lougan Bill
with some strong perspective on it, having played the quarterback
position in college, well, I think.
Speaker 9 (30:26):
It is entirely revolves around mental toughness and competitive temperament,
two things that aren't coached right, two things.
Speaker 7 (30:36):
That you don't drill in practice. There are two things
that you must have to deal with the ebbs and
flows of the position. There's going to be highs, there's
going to be lows.
Speaker 9 (30:45):
There's going to be a distinct amount of criticism. There's
going to be finger pointing. There can be locker room fractures.
I'm not saying that's the case here, but all of
the things that go along with the quarterback position from
leadership perspective, is if you aren't at the top of
the heap in terms of mental toughness and competitiveness and
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things aren't going, well, you're gonna have a real hard time.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
And am I saying that.
Speaker 9 (31:10):
Bryce Young is not capable of those things or hasn't
shown those things.
Speaker 7 (31:14):
No, I'm not saying that at all.
Speaker 9 (31:15):
But what I will say is you can go all
the way back to the sixth grade, and he has
rarely had to deal with failure or struggle or high
amounts of criticism because he's always been a scenario where
number one, he's been talented, he's been smart, he's been
a playmaker, and then he's always been on the best seam.
(31:37):
And so now it's a complete different set of circumstances,
and he himself is one of many puzzle pieces involved
in a rebuilding. And whether that's the next three to
four to five weeks of seeing how he responds, seeing
how he incrementally improves, even if it's just a little
(31:59):
bit each game that gives you signs, I think that's
going to reveal a lot about how he's handling all
the what his former coach, Nick Saber would call clutter.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
There's the other part of it, which is to my
first point, right, it's one week, and again there's no
way to sugarcoat forty seven to ten. What happened happened,
and the Panthers were dominated in every fast st of
the game. But I bring that up because you called
Clemson app State over the weekend, and I thought a
(32:31):
week ago when Clemson lost to Georgia, the sky was
falling on Clemson. Yeah right, I thought, time to get
rid of Debo Sweeney. They're behind the eight ball. I
mean again, this is the stuff you hear from the
hot take people who you know, just they're trying to
make a headline and getting you to watch their video
(32:52):
or watch their YouTube channel or clickbait whatever. Right, that
was this narrative Clemson, it's over. It's doom and gloom,
and hey, I've state the killer. Uh and listen, let's
be honest, like we all were thinking it, right, we
all were thinking it. They lose to ap State like
this thing. You know, now, what's the conversation? Yeah, you
were there. What happened?
Speaker 9 (33:14):
So as with anything, and this is what the coaching
and coaching staff of the Carolina Panthers and the players
are doing. Right now, you start to really do a
deep dive into the tape to find out what's been
really what's really revealing something that maybe you didn't see
on the surface.
Speaker 7 (33:30):
Something that things. Of course the fans are not going
to see. To try to get to the root of
the problem.
Speaker 9 (33:35):
And when when we talked with Daboisweeney during the week,
you know, and I actually had done the same thing,
but he said, you know, the number one thing that
I wanted to do when watching that film is I
wanted to know were we outclassed athletically?
Speaker 7 (33:48):
No we weren't.
Speaker 9 (33:50):
Were we not tough enough, No we weren't. Did we
play with great effort? Yes we did? So what went wrong?
And as they started to peel back the layers pull
back to curt and they realized they made more errors
in coachable items than Georgia did, particularly on defense in
the second half. And then you add the performance of
(34:11):
Kid Clubnick, and you start to ask yourself, Okay, can
he do this?
Speaker 7 (34:16):
Can he do this? And so.
Speaker 9 (34:21):
My analysis of Caid Club Nick, everybody is complaining about Clinton,
there's no explosive plays and know this that, And when
I went through the tape, I was like, forget about
the explosive plays. How about just taking the guineas of
guys that are wide open, standing right in front of you,
and you won't throw it to them. And we actually
in the opening of our broadcast, I had put together
(34:41):
a tape we and we put it together of just
he's right there, throw it to him. Well what lo
and behold Kate Clubnick comes out and was an entirely
different person. I mean he looked like Joe Montana. I
mean that ball was out of his hands so fast.
If the guy was open right in front of him,
he threw it right them. So clearly the comets and
(35:01):
coaches were saying, you know, kind of thinking the same thing, thinking, Kay,
you know, you got to pull the trigger here, man,
you know, And he did.
Speaker 7 (35:07):
And that was a bunch of groucy tigers.
Speaker 9 (35:10):
And physically when you watch them, somebody better watch out
because they're good.
Speaker 7 (35:17):
They are good.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
And again week one they played Georgia, who might end
up being the best team in the country.
Speaker 7 (35:24):
They could do that to a lot of people, could.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Do that cool a lot of people. But you know,
it's interesting because I see the parallels where Dave Canalis
when he got to Carolina. One of the things that
he has said over and over and over again he
wants to get Bryce Young in the habit of getting
the ball out quickly. Two point seven seconds has been
that number that a year marked. And he said, we
want to build this offense where hey, the first guy
(35:48):
who's open, throw it.
Speaker 7 (35:50):
To him, throw it to him.
Speaker 9 (35:52):
Yeah, it's the old take what the defense gives you,
ad it, right, And I think they had they had
drilled that into Kaye club Nick, and to his credit
it now listen, this wasn't Georgia's defense, but it wasn't
Charleston Southern either.
Speaker 7 (36:04):
Right, and so it was.
Speaker 9 (36:07):
I thought it was fairly impressive what he did the
true pressman wide receivers. It was funny how all of
a sudden those two guys start making plays, and the
rest of the guys at Clemson last week they weren't
making any plays, all of a sudden started playing good.
It was like, well, I don't want to stand over
here on the sideline. I don't want to play, so
I better make some plays on the ball when the
ball comes my way. So I you're right, I mean so.
(36:28):
And here's the thing, all due respect to k Clubnick's performance,
can you.
Speaker 7 (36:33):
Do it next week?
Speaker 9 (36:34):
Can you do it the week after and then the
week after that, and then the week after that.
Speaker 7 (36:37):
And I'm not saying you have to be perfect, but
this can't be flashing the pan pipe stuff.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Consistency matters big time. Panther Talk presented by Bosh power
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Speaker 2 (36:51):
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Speaker 1 (37:01):
Taking a detour from football, The world on Monday lost
one of its iconic actors, I would say its iconic voices.
James Earl Jones passed away at the age of ninety three.
Darth Vader Mufassa from Lyon King Field of Dreams coming
(37:21):
to America, America King Lear.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
Yes, absolutely, just that great iconic voice that you know
that you got used to hearing all the time, and
especially because at this time our generations, we all kind
of grew up in television, grew up in movies as
opposed to what is now, and so you were accustomed
to hearing his voice.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
He was in Sad Lot too, yesh.
Speaker 6 (37:45):
Yeah, from Gave signed by all the Yankees.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Yeah, he had the Beast in his backyard. It was
a classic movie. But I think the the Vader voice,
which is probably one of the most iconic fluke in
all of cinnemon find your lack of faith, disturb.
Speaker 7 (38:09):
Man.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Just so many, just so so so many good movies
and so many good memories that we all have.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
It was a voice too. When you heard it, you
knew it.
Speaker 7 (38:17):
You know it?
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Yeah, exactly everything the light touches.
Speaker 6 (38:20):
And Morgan Freeman, like, as soon as you hear the
whatever they're in, if you see them or not, you
know who's talking.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
You know who's talking. And it made you smile.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
It's like, that's the guy you want narrating your life.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Oh wow, can you imagine it, Morgan Freeman, Oh James
Drew narrating your life. It would just be everything would
be what if you got Gilbert Gottfried?
Speaker 5 (38:41):
Is the voice tell.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
You we should not speak ill of the day? Is
Gilbert Godfrey dead?
Speaker 7 (38:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (38:50):
He passed away.
Speaker 5 (38:51):
I mean it's in the vein of what we're talking about.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Gilbert Gotfried was in He was that parrot too.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Wasn't that cartoon he was.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
The parrot was halflac duck. And then he was in
Now was the what was the John Ritter movie?
Speaker 4 (39:06):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (39:06):
With the little kid who was the troublemaker? Oh yeah,
problem child.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
Problem Child? Wow? He wasn't that one too?
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Huh yeah, James Earl Jones. They'll passed away at the
age of ninety three. We will have our next broadcast
Sunday Panthers Chargers Bank of America Stadium home opener. Again,
everyone wants to have the hot take because we've only
seen one game and we only have one game to
(39:34):
react to. Eugene is is this a big game for
Bryce Young?
Speaker 4 (39:38):
This is a big game for Bryce Young. I mean,
when we looked at his demeanor on the sideline, it
just seems that I don't know, you know, it was
a bewilderment, distracted. I don't I don't know what that
looked like. I just know that that's some face and
eyes I've seen before from my teammates and myself who've
(40:00):
had no bad game, So I know what that's familiar.
You have to just throw that game behind you and
you got to come out blazing, and so whatever he
has to do to get hisself ready, he has to
get himself ready because he's going to be judged so
critically and so hard by everyone.
Speaker 6 (40:16):
Everyone moving forward, well, there's a lot of areas that
have to prove from what we saw yesterday.
Speaker 5 (40:22):
So he needs to have a big game.
Speaker 6 (40:23):
But to be honest with you, these a lot of
guys that you have a big game, but we know
part of why Dave Canallas is here is his background
with quarterbacks and the offense. So there's no denying the
lead story. I think out of everything that has to
be better, even I thought the defense was the most
surprising thing yesterday As far as not being good, is
that the hope. A lot of that is centered on
the quarterback position and everything's in play when things aren't
(40:44):
going well.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
As far as evaluation.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Goes in the building all off season, there was two
spoken words that we're kind of unspoken to say less.
And we can say all we want about what should happen,
what might happened, what could happen. At the end of
the day, what happens on the field that'll determine the noise.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
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