Panther Post Game | December 14, 2025

This week on the Panthers Post Game show, Jim, Mike, and Eugene recap the Panthers 17-20 loss to the Saints, hear from coach Canales and so much more!

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Now to Chim Soaki with the Panthers postgame show exclusively
on the Carolina Panthers Radio Network.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Jim Jokie along with Mike Pachico, Eugene Robinson, Saints twenty
Panthers seventeen at a closing second forty seven yard field
goal by New Orleans Chris Smith, who wants to go first?

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Oh, I don't I try to pass pass Hussey?

Speaker 2 (00:33):
That was that was a heartbreaking, heart breaking, heartbreaking well
as Charlie Smith.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
I should said not Chris Smith. Charlie Smith.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
And it would have been a sixty two down a
forty seven yard attempt if not for the random ransom here.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
I love a ransom.

Speaker 5 (00:47):
I think he's a great player, but you better no
situational football. And that was clearly even as they were
lining up, and you can tell by just the posture
and just the way they lined up that it was
going to be a back draw. It was the most
obvious thing. And he's the one in the middle of
the field, and so all he has to do is

(01:07):
because he knows the quarterback typically because they got to
get down with the time is going to slide, you know,
So he takes this shot anyway, and hits him as
he slid, and I'm gone, why why are you hitting
him when you know he should be sliding.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
And so from that standpoint, it took.

Speaker 5 (01:27):
It took a sixty two yard field goal, made it
a forty seven yard field goal. Now I think he
would have made it anyway, because that was an amazing kick. However,
you don't help the opponent at all, and we did
too many things out there to help the opponent. And
I would to say this too. Let me say that
last driver they had the touchdown on.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
J. C.

Speaker 5 (01:47):
Horn with Olave, it's not because I'm faulting the man
and man coverage. I thought that the blitz was coming
just way too late. We were in zone zone, zone,
zone zone, getting the red zone, and then we blitzed. Right, Well,
the ball is gonna come out fast anyway in the
red zone when you go ahead and blitz, and so
I thought that the blitzes should have been happening a

(02:09):
lot earlier and instead of being in that in that
zone that we were in, and so I thought they
just marched down the field and I thought we didn't
give ourselves a chance to go ahead, And and to
contestants as well as we could have contested it. Now,
of course we had a chance with Bryce. You know,
we had the ball, but we we did not convert

(02:32):
on offense at all, not one bit. And so this
was a man almost a colossal I don't want to
say misstake failure.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
I don't know. We had it right there.

Speaker 5 (02:44):
And now you're making it difficult and hard because now
you gotta win games.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
You and you've been in a position you could have
won either of the two Tampa Bay gas and won
the division either of them.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
Either of them.

Speaker 5 (02:56):
And so this is the front, this is the football
frustration coming out of me as a football player. I'm like, dude,
you don't get opportunities to get the ball back. When
Rassom has a chance to go ahead and recover the fumble,
hit them right in.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
The hands, Dude, you gotta get it.

Speaker 5 (03:13):
Instead, he doesn't recover the fumble, and I think they
might have got some points out of that.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
On that drive there was a chance.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
For a couple of interceptions, and I'm like, dude, you
gotta get it.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
This is the difference.

Speaker 5 (03:24):
Between like that playoff team where you guys end up
making those plays. So when they come to you, you
got to make those plays, and unfortunately we didn't make
enough plays. I thought we did enough stuff offensively to
win the game, but I thought defensively, we didn't make
enough plays that were consequential. And this is a reverse

(03:46):
of what it was last time we met. Last time,
defense played well, I thought, and the offense didn't do
enough to go to help out.

Speaker 6 (03:53):
To dal And offensively, you can't give up that sack
that Cam Jordan had on that last offensive series.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
Ended regulation at that point when that happened.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
Yeah, he just bull rushed a Quanta on that player
and it just and you can almost tell that he
knew it because he was getting close to Bryce anyway,
and so he was making Bryce to get out of
that pocket a lot earlier. And I thought that Bryce won.
I thought he played well too. I thought that, hey, man,
use your legs.

Speaker 7 (04:19):
Man.

Speaker 5 (04:19):
One of the things that you do well is that
you can run the ball. And we haven't even talked
about I think we're going to get to that fourth
down and inches inches. If we capitalize on that, it's
a different ball game.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
And we don't. Let's get first.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Out and it was a game of inches.

Speaker 6 (04:41):
Well, you know the quote that's sticking my head right now.
Is fortune favors the bold, and in winning time, New
Orleans I think was more bold than the Panthers were.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, they played to win and we played not to lose,
and it didn't work out. We played in that soft zone.
A lobby had four catches. He had like won the
whole game. He had four in that last drive where
they got the touchdown, not the last drive, but the
last one where they had to touchdown as well. And
and then at the end, I mean there's just no
press quarterback, no pressure.

Speaker 5 (05:10):
No pres and the time you put pressure on the quarterback,
Jesse horn is and man of mat coverts inside technique
nice moved by a love and to get open.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
That's a tough tough position to be in.

Speaker 5 (05:21):
But those blisses, I'm just telling you. I thought they
should have come away a lot earlier.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
That last Saints drive for the field goal started their
own eight yard line, and they started eight yard line.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
Yeah, oh wow.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Remember they had a penalty.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
Oh yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
But then they had the little screen pass and they
got like about twenty on.

Speaker 6 (05:35):
That the half hour drive that started at the five
yard line.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
I mean, your worst case scenario should have been overtime.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
I mean you just the defense's last two scoring series
was abysmal.

Speaker 6 (05:46):
But but you can't let a team march, you know,
down the field like that, starting at that eight yard line.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
And then and I thought we played too soft.

Speaker 5 (05:54):
I thought we played a soft defense on a defense
that that's like even Announce has said. You know they're
bending but not breaking. You want to keep everything in
front of you, dude, we have an opportunity. And this
is when you said fortune favors the brave and the boat.
You gotta opportunity. Go let your dogs eat, let the
cats eat. Man, Let's get after these dudes. Man, I mean,

(06:14):
you already hurt Tyler Shuck already, so go get after them.
I'm putting that blitz on him. I'm trying to get
people in his face. And I'm gonna tell my guys
on the outside, hold up, this is what you get
paid for, JC, is what you get paid for. Jack,
Hold up, I need you to I need you to cover.
I need you to do some great covering. And their
receivering car their group, the Saints, I thought they I don't.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
Know who Vela is.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Bella was excellent, man, I thought they did it.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Wow, I was like, Wow, I've catches sixty nine yards.
We played bigger than that. A love ended up with
six for eighty five with a touchdown. But those those two,
especially in the second half.

Speaker 5 (06:49):
Exactly, and they kept drives alive. And here's the other thing.
When I thought that there was too many penalties, too man,
too many hands in the face that we're giving them
when we you know, we're gifting you opportunity to keep
the drive alive.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
And and those drives should not be alive. Uh. And
and that was unfortunate, very very unfortunate.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Because I penalty count was eleven for one hundred and
three yards. Now they had nine for seventy They had
a lot as well, but eleventalties for one hundred.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
And three yards.

Speaker 5 (07:18):
You know, you had an interview with with Tommy Tremble
earlier and he was talking about the game and and
and the recess from the bye week and this and that,
and he talked about saying, you know, we got to
play some clean football, you know. Uh, that was one
of his words he mentioned about playing clean football. And

(07:39):
as I'm thinking about that, I'm like, dude, there are
eleven penalties on the field.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
It's enough.

Speaker 5 (07:45):
Blame to go around if you, if you, if you,
if you want, but that's not clean, and you should
win the game. This is a game that you should win,
that you're controlling.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Well, and you're up by ten going into the fourth quarter,
and you lose, and you.

Speaker 5 (07:59):
Lose exactly, And so I'm as frustrated as everybody else
here here in the Carolinas, and you know, apparently I
know the team is frustrated too, because that's the opportunity
to go down there and win, and it's right there
before you, it's right there in your hands, and we don't.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
We don't.

Speaker 5 (08:17):
We don't execute at all. I mean we execute, but
it's not what you want.

Speaker 6 (08:23):
It's a sixty minute game. I mean, they played great
for you know what, fifty five minutes, fifty two minutes.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
The funny thing is, if you took away the records
and just watched football the last couple of weeks, you
might think the Saints are the best team in the
NFC South exactly. Beat Carolina twice in Tampa Bay once.

Speaker 5 (08:39):
And I look, I liked how what we I like
what we were doing. I like what we were doing. Offensively,
I like it. But I thought defensively, man, you know,
and maybe because I'm a defensive player, man, I just
thought that this is an opportunity for you guys to
really show up and show up well to short well
and the fact that we didn't put any heat on

(09:00):
the quarterback in that times where I'm like, rush, get
after this dude, Rush.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
This dude, because here's the flip side.

Speaker 5 (09:08):
If it's a zone and you let them sit back
in the cut and you got a four man rush
and they block you with their five guys or they're
running back that's back there too, and they let and
they release four dudes. Dude, they're gonna find the zone
behind the linebackers. It's gonna be easy. It's gonna be
easy pickings because the linebackers don't squeeze the players when

(09:29):
they come in. You got Dj Watam dropping back at times,
they don't squeeze the routes. I mean, they kind of
fill the routes, but they don't squeeze the routes. And
what I mean by squeeze the routs when you recognize
that he's running a deep end and you beat him
to the spot because that's where your zone is at,
you know, and h and when you don't do that
I'm sitting there going, man, get me into a blissing

(09:50):
situation where I know I got cornerbacks and safeties covering
those outside receivers, and I got my other dogs going
to the quarterback. And so I'm gonna sound like a
broker record, I really am. I would love more blitzes
and getting after it and less of that zone where
you get to the quarterback to sit back Tyler, and

(10:12):
Tyler was throwing some rocks in there too.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
Dude, belly was eating, was eating. You saw a love
of eating.

Speaker 5 (10:17):
Towards the last uh in that fourth period, they were
making some great plays. The tight end was eating. They
were making some really good plays. But he was making
some good throws because guess what, he.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Had time to throw the rock YEP and he knew it.
He confidence was sorry.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
I don't mean to be mad, but I'm just saying.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
You should be mad after loss like that.

Speaker 6 (10:36):
At least a good position.

Speaker 5 (10:38):
Did you just you just feel it in your gutting
right in your crawl, and you you know, and I
know I've been.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
In those those situations.

Speaker 5 (10:46):
You know, we would have a situation when we're where
we were, like in Green Bay and Fritz Sherman would
our defense quarter He's like, hey, I'm gonna turn you
boys loose. I'm gonna you know, we gotta get after
this quarterback. We can't let him sit back there and
eat us up because the one man rush ain't getting it,
you know.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
And we had.

Speaker 5 (11:02):
Reggie White, we had Sean Jones, we had Graved Santana Dosser,
we had four dues who can rush the quarterback, no doubt.
But when it wasn't getting there for Shirmu say, hey,
I'm turning you loose. We were going were bliss and
we're doing blitters off this. We got hurricanes, we got
we've got some lightnings of the thunder's going on. We
got some blisters. We don't get in your face. Everybody
else hold up and cover, you know, and you and

(11:24):
you do. So I'm just sorry.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
I'm just well, no, you gave up set the tying
and the winning score late in the game, and you
had the ball in between and just didn't do anything
with it. So it's a twenty seventeen loss to the Saints.
The Panthers fall to seven and seven, back into a
first place tie with Tampa Bay, which comes here next week.
But now changes things as Tampa Bay's gonna be rejuvenated
by again being pulled back into this division race more

(11:47):
so than they were before. We'll get to a lot
of things here in the postgame show. We'll hear what
coach Dave Canal has had to say some of these
Panther players. Mike, when we come back, we'll have an
NFL scoreboard for you. Patrick Mahomes and Micah Parsons. Torn
Acos out saw that their teams not good, so a
tough day for some of the bigger stars in the NFL.
We'll talk about all that and more as we continue

(12:08):
in the Panthers post game show.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
This is the Carolina Panthers Radio.

Speaker 6 (12:10):
Network and we are back at Bank of America Stadium,
Panthers falling today in New Orleans twenty to seventeen. Like Pachico,
Jim Zok, Eugene Robinson here with you. This drive around
League brought to you by the Honda Dealers of the
Carolinas and a couple of the late games, two teams

(12:32):
of the three teams that had two opportunities to clinch
a playoff berth. Today in action, we begin with Denver.
They win over Green Bay thirty four to twenty six,
so they've earned a playoff. Berth Bow next four touchdown
passes in that game for three hundred and three yards.
Of course, on the flip side of that, the bad
news for green Bay. Michael Parsons hurt with acltre so

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green Bay now nine to four and one, Denver twelve
and two. The Rams a touchdown better than Detroit forty
one thirty four a shootout at SOFI Stadium in Inglewood, California,
Matthew Stafford twenty four to thirty eight, three hundred and
sixty eight yards in the air, two touchdowns, one interception.
Jared Goff had three hundred and thirty eight yards in
the air, three touchdowns and no interception to the Rams

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now at eleven and three, Seattle out last Indianapolis. That
game was kind of tight early on. Philip Rivers, of course,
signed earlier this week to the practice squad, comes in
almost a Wally Pip situation, although he's forty four years old.
Forty four years old, but Sam Donald got the better

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of him, as did Jason Myers, the kicker fifty six
yard field goal with about twenty seconds left to go
in that game, and then Sam and then the river
stows an interception with eleven seconds ago, so Seattle wins
eighteen to sixteen. At home. San Francisco over Tennessee thirty
seven to twenty four. Rock Perty at twenty two of
thirty with two hundred ninety five yards in the air

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with three touches, sounds, no interceptions. Christian McCaffrey seventy three
yards on the ground with a touchdown. Earlier Today's Chicago
beat Cleveland thirty one to three. Caleb Williams had two
touchdowns in that game. DeAndre Swift almost one hundred yards.
He had ninety eight on the ground, but he had
two touchdowns rushing. Baltimore goes into sat Cincinnati and shuts

(14:19):
out the Bengals twenty four to nothing. Houston over Arizona,
doubling up Cardinals forty to twenty. Jacksonville on Trevor Lawrence's
five touchdowns. Wow Yep also had. He was the leading
rusher in that game. Jem fifty one yards on the
ground with a touchdown as Jacksonville downs the New York
Jets forty eight to twenty. Chargers on the road at

(14:43):
Kansas City went sixteen to thirteen. Justin Herbert had two
hundred and ten yards in the air with a touchdown
and an interception. Jim mentioned earlier Pat mahomes sixteen of
twenty eight hundred and eighty nine yards, but the news
there has ACL for him. So not only do the
Chiefs officially get eliminated from the playoffs, but adding injury
to insult the quarterback, they lose their quarterback. So maybe

(15:06):
maybe changing in the guard a little bit with Kansas City.
I mean, this is a tough year, and now he
gets hurt, he probably he's gonna miss most of the
next year.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 5 (15:14):
Yeah, when it's late in the year, when you get
an injury like ACL, I mean that's a good eight
to twelve month I mean that you come back from
and so he's not gonna he's not gonna be ready
to at the beginning of the season. Now if at
all at all series exactly No.

Speaker 6 (15:28):
New England blows a twenty one to uh They had
a twenty one point lead in the second quarter. Josh
Allen comes back and leads with three touchdowns of thirty
five to thirty one win against the Patriots in New
England and Philadelphia shuts out Las Vegas thirty one to
nothing Las Vegas. How about this seventy five yards total?

Speaker 4 (15:48):
Oh my goodness, Oh ouch, that's horrible for.

Speaker 6 (15:51):
The game, total yards brutal. Minnesota Dallas is your night
game tonight. That'll be kicking off just under thirty minutes
from now, and then Miami and Pittsburgh will be your
Monday night football game. And there you have.

Speaker 4 (16:05):
That's a big game. Miami Pittsburgh game's big game.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
I don't want to watch any more football today.

Speaker 6 (16:10):
It is sickening, right.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
I mean, they score with two o eight the Saints
to two eight to go to tie it.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
That's bad enough. And then we go to the two
minute warning.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
We take that sack where we come out and it's
like we couldn't get to overtime fast enough, like we
tried to let the clock run down exactly, run another play,
they call time out, They call time out twice. They
get the ball back there like they're on eight yard
line and they get in the field goal range and
just capped off by the penalty.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
Again.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
He may have made Charlie Smith is good. Yeah, he
might have made yards.

Speaker 6 (16:37):
But I think one of the strengths of this offense
is tempo and they kind of took themselves out of
their own tempo.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
Yeah what do you think? Yeah, I would say so.
I mean I think that Zoke's right.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
That sack, that that last sack, that that was really consequential,
that really took chase you and it just it just
took all the air out of the sale. It just
it just really did. And now you don't want to over.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
Time you get a possession, you get a chance like
we just.

Speaker 5 (17:03):
You don't want to mess it up. You don't want
to go ahead and be super daring. But you gotta
be I know, you know, but you you got to
be extremely proactive. And then I remember saying this. See
as we're watching the game, I said, I wonder who's
on that defensive side of the ball, saying, Okay, we
got to create a turnover.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
We gotta have great coverage.

Speaker 5 (17:23):
We got we we this is going to be squarely
on the defensive shoulders.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
We have to go ahead and keep points off the board.
We have to do that.

Speaker 5 (17:30):
And I want to know who's that guy in the
locker room on that field at that time saying that,
because there's gotta be somebody saying that. There's got to
be saying somebody hey, get to this quarterback. Let's put
him on a dirt. Let's let's let's get him down
on the ground. Where's that at a touchdown?

Speaker 2 (17:44):
They went to a lobby three in a row, and
then he takes a player or two off it scores
the touchdown. I mean, it's just like it was just
like he didn't show up all day and one catch
the whole day, and then he gets four in the touchdown.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
I would like to see him get doubled on that time.

Speaker 5 (17:58):
You can take the free safety and if you go
ahead and run a blitch, you can go into a
double with the free safety and with jac hold on
that and you can sit jac Horn underneath oh lave.
It's called a two man yale underneath him and he
runs underneath him and have a guy over the top
of him. Well, everybody else plays a man to man.
So you can get away with a double a form

(18:20):
of a double if you if you want to.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
Yeah, so, yeah, you're right. I mean, yere's.

Speaker 5 (18:27):
I'm kicking myself in the head because I'm sitting seeing
the opportunities, like, man, we gotta go ahead and and
and really take advantage of the opportunity, and and we
we just did not defensively, I thought we just didn't.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Well, then offensively we can't get fourth in inches that yeah,
we run out of like a one eighty spin from
the quarterback to hand it to Cuba, right, and it's
like loses a yard. I mean yeah, every other team
just lines up and doesn't sneak some story.

Speaker 6 (18:52):
Well, and then I know the game was essentially over
at this point. But then like the play, the execution
on that last on the kickoff return or of the
actually it wasn't a kickoff because it was a kickbag,
but I mean that that kind of the cooking ladder,
the start to that, and then.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
That that had no promise from the beginning.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
You know, you're you're better off.

Speaker 5 (19:10):
Just throw the ball down the field, right and see
if you get a p I you're you're you're you're
better off through that because everybody is looking to go ahead. Well,
we say defensively, we got one guy who's gonna go
ahead and jump, and everybody else is boxing out with people. Right,
you're gonna stand next to your guy, You're gonna box out.
One guy's gonna jump, knock the ball down right, Well,
that box out typically on that box out people are holding.

(19:33):
I know because we did it. You know you're you're holding.
So you could easily get a p I on that
the on that call, and I'm like, okay, throw the
ball deep and hopefully you get a p I. If
you get a p I, now you got another chance
because you get the distance there, you got another chance
to go ahead and uh and do something with the ball.
You know you have an untimed down, you get another
untimed down.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
So there you go. But we didn't get that.

Speaker 5 (19:54):
We didn't get that happening in the day, and so
today is a frustrating day because the Carolina Panthers. I
read a stat somewhere that it said that when the
Panthers are prohibitive favorites by more than eight points or
something like that, that they've lost eleven times.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
And I was like, get out of here.

Speaker 5 (20:15):
What And that only speaks to if that is true,
it only speaks to the inconsistency of what we're seeing
with the path, which.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Is something we talk about all week, and then in
his pregame show today like where will the consistency come from?
And it didn't happen again today we'll talk more about
that much more to continue with as well as the
Panthers lose on the road at New Orleans twenty to seventeen.
Much more to come as we continue along on the
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Speaker 3 (21:13):
Oh, Mike just walked back. I thought he left.

Speaker 4 (21:15):
I thought he was like about.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
I thought you quietly quit the post game show.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
Give back your chick.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
You have to be here too.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
For this twenty to seventeen Saints over the Panthers. I
don't normally do this, but I think they're important. We're
gonna do highlights here, which are not highlights at all
unless you're a Saints fan, but I think they're important
to go back through the steps of how this game
was lost addition to the Saints doing some good things
them winning it, but from the Panthers' perspective, you feel
like you lost it in a lot of different ways,

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and so we have four cuts. We'll play for you here.
Panthers lead ten to seven at the half. Frec o'dowdle
had a touchdown, go up seventeen to seven. In the
third quarter, Jalen Cocher had the thirty four yard touchdown,
and again, so you're.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Playing with the lead here.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
It's the fourth quartery, you have fourth there, third quartery,
fourth and inches, fourth in inches to go here, and
the Panthers failed to pick it up.

Speaker 8 (22:05):
Instead of the long field goal, they'll try out fourth
down young under center. It's an offset eye. Here's the
staff to give his to Hubbard. He's hit, he doesn't
get there. Shuba tried to dive across the pile. He
has stopped, and the Saints take over at their own
thirty five with ten fifty six to go.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
So right there, you could have gone long field goal there.
You've got a kicker with a strong leg, you're indoors there.
That could have made it the two possession game. That's
a factor. But also in fact, you couldn't pick up
fourth in inches exactly.

Speaker 5 (22:36):
And I thought that was one of the most heartbreaking
plays that we've seen offensively because it's inches. Is not
a yard, is not a yard and a half, is
not two yards. And then typically what you do, and
you said this to me, Zeke, hey bringing Andy Dalton,
and run a quarterback snake. Yeah, just run a quarterback
sneat because even if you hike the ball, he's big

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enough to go ahead and put the ball over the
line to gain. Because it's only inches, it's only interest.
We know that they're gonna be doing double pinches. That
means the defensive linemen are gonna be, you know, diving
in towards the center, diving inward. All you do is
you go off to the side of the guard and
you put the ball over the line.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
That's gonna be an easy play.

Speaker 5 (23:20):
To go head right back to the bench and then
you're handing back to Bright And so I thought that
there was a misopportunity. And you know, if you and
if you're being really daring coach Canalis, is that you
fake that ball and then you throw a pop pass
to the tight end because the safety is saying, hey,
we got to wash the run.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
Wash the run.

Speaker 5 (23:38):
Everybody's went to run, and the safety is are saying
they wash the tight end, they're gonna block and release.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
I do believe it.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Fourth and inches or that ball should never go in
the air. You know it's if it's fourth and one maybe,
but fourth and inches.

Speaker 5 (23:49):
But fourth and inches you got you run? This is
you run behind your big guys.

Speaker 6 (23:53):
And you talk about you know, these words get thrown
around a lot. You know. Run. We're a power team, tough.
You gotta get in inches. You gotta get it.

Speaker 5 (24:00):
You gotta get it, you gotta get it. And here
you run off tackle. But when when Bryce spins around
to hand the ball off, the tuba.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Developing, it's gotta be a dive.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
Yeah, it gotta be a dive. I can't do like
long things that takes.

Speaker 5 (24:16):
That's why I don't want you in a gun, because
that means you gotta get six, you know, five and
a half six yards. That's why you're not in the gun.
Undneath the center, and all you do is hand the
ball off and dive. And you tell your guys up front,
and you gotta be better than them, you know, and
you know that they're gonna go ahead and do submarining
type things.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
Dive and pitch and that way.

Speaker 5 (24:34):
You gotta tell your guy, I look to go ahead
and get over the top immediately, immediately off.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
A dive play all right here. Tough moment number two.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
As we mentioned a Lave Chris o'lave had four catches
on this drive after having won the entire time. This
is the tying drive and the go the tying fifteen
yard touchdown here to make it seventeen all.

Speaker 8 (24:57):
Chuck out of the gun, helvit I snap Bro's on
the slant caught by Olave for a touchdown. He beat J. C.
Horn who dove for the interception, and Olave takes into
the house.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
You will wait to go at that point.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
But on that drive they went to him three times
in a row, playing a zone right. Yeah, and then
at the end there it's a one on one match,
and like it was here in Carolina, Olave won a
couple of big the moments, not the whole game, but
there was some big moments. He faiced with one hundred
yards and a touchdown here back in November. But again
it was Olave winning that one on one matchup against him.

Speaker 5 (25:31):
Yeah, and it wasn't a slant, as Aniss said, because
that would be like a quick three to five yard play.
This you know, this is a fifteen yard you know,
a pulse a bang eight if you it's a quick
inside route that he's gonna run. It's gonna be about
fifteen yards. And he does it and we're an inside
technique was caused taxi technique take away the X inside.

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So he's in a great position. It's just that Olave
beat the position that he was in and the ball
comes out and they had three receivers on one side,
and so the free safety who could help is not
over there. They're isolating jac Hornt on the backside and say, okay,
jac our best guy against you're a best guy. Let's
see what's going to happen. And Olavi won that one

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good play call by Kellen Moore. Oh yeah, it was
get everybody out the way. Move the free safety Nick
Scott to the other side of the field. Now is
one oh one, Jerry Rice the mess at that Randy
Moss terrell owas your top receiver.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
That's what you do.

Speaker 5 (26:31):
You isolate them on one of the guys when you're
blittening and you say, okay, you beat them.

Speaker 4 (26:35):
This is what you get paid for. And that's what happened.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Panthers get the ball back if around the two minute
mark they go three and out, though we mentioned the
sack that kind of set them back, so they end
up having to punt the ball away, and then the
Saints start inside their own ten yard line. They're coming
up the field though it's going to be setting up
for a long field goal. It looks like here, but
this is the play where Tyler Schuck keeps it, runs
for a couple slides, and the Panthers tack on a

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fifteen yard penalty.

Speaker 8 (27:01):
It's an empty set. Chuck the snap, He's gonna run
it straight up the middle.

Speaker 6 (27:04):
He goes down.

Speaker 8 (27:05):
Oh leg down. The Panthers might get called for.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
A late hit.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
Oh no.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Lethan Ransom coming in and the rookie against a rookie
by the way, comes in and makes what would have
been a sixty two yard field goal attempt, very makeable
still for Charlie's month, my dad, but forty seven yard
and much more makeable odds for him, and he does
for what would be the go ahead points.

Speaker 4 (27:29):
This is.

Speaker 8 (27:31):
Six seconds on the clock. Zack Wood to snap, progr
a hold and Smith on for the kick from forty
seven tied at seventeen snap hold the kick, there's a flag.
The kick is good with two seconds on the clock.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
I mean for a team that was three and ten,
that was a masterful comeback on this half of the
Panthers helped him out.

Speaker 5 (27:54):
No doubt is the Panther has helped him out. And look,
I'm a big Ransom fan. I like him. I like
the way he played this and that. But you have
to know at that situation that running backs and also quarterbacks,
they slide. They slide, that's what they're told to do
that they slide. And you have to know that. And

(28:17):
so you're not going for a kill shot to go
ahead and make a great stop. You can just go
ahead and touch him down.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
You don't have to even touch him because he gives
himself up.

Speaker 6 (28:27):
Well, this is like a time the Panthers have that
penalty and and.

Speaker 5 (28:30):
And what's so frustrating on that play is that I
know they have to be saying that in the huddle.
You have to you have to be saying, look, no
penalties a you know, I don't see how you don't
say that, because this is a different This is not
like when I played when the quarterback was slide and
then you can still hit him. This is not that

(28:52):
this is a different error. And so you know, unfortunately
wrestle man, you know, yeah, I mean, oh, a tough lesson,
a big tough lesson to go ahead and learn. But
you better go ahead and learn that lesson. And I
hope that Merik and the rest of the guys make
sure they drive that point home to them, you know,
drive it home.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
You need to know. Hey, you can't hit a dude
when you slide it.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
You just can't hit him, all right, So in a
negative way, some of those were the whataburger? What a
moment of the game, grilling delicious foods for seventy five years.
What a burger just like you like it? The loss
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Before we take a break, let's a little bit late
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take our time out here, we'll come back. We'll hear

(29:36):
from coach Dave Canalis, from the Panther players. The guys
will have their final thoughts in the booth. I'm sure
those would be a little salty as well, and much
more to come, as the Panthers lose unfortunately at New
Orleans in the last moments twenty to seventeen on the
Carolina Panthers Radio Network.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
All Right, we've talked about it.

Speaker 6 (29:58):
You got to hear some of the moments that led
to it.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
The Saints beat the Panthers twenty to seventeen on a
last second field goal, dropping the Panthers record of seven
and seven back into a first place tie with Tampa Bay.
A couple of minutes ago, the guy's caught up with
coach Dave Canalis.

Speaker 8 (30:12):
We're joined here on the post game by Panthers head
coach Dave Canalis. Dave, I know this one stings, but
the one thing that seemed very out of character was
the penalties. You guys have been one of the least
penalized teams all season. What went into the eleven penalties today?

Speaker 9 (30:28):
Yeah, just discipline and opportunities, situations that we found ourselves
in where we we got to make better decisions, and
on the quarterback when he's running, making sure we're on sides.
Different things like that, A couple of untimely holding calls
that put us into some bad spots and certainly not
a part of the game that we've had this season,
But we got to make sure that we talk about
those things and attack it head on.

Speaker 10 (30:51):
Yeah, coach is Jake here, Yeah, I know it's frustrating.
Just what's the message to the team. How is it taken?
Watching everybody walk off the field, you could just see
the frustration with a lot of the players.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
What's the message to them?

Speaker 10 (31:02):
And how how was everyone in the locker room?

Speaker 9 (31:04):
Yeah, we can do better. That's not our football, and
that was the message to the group is we got
to move on quickly. We got the Bucks coming back
to Charlotte next week, and so we're going to take
the lessons of this game, make sure we look at it,
be studs about it, and grow from it so we
can find our best football.

Speaker 7 (31:19):
Coach Luke here, Obviously tough loss, shake and niche reference it,
But I feel like we still have a lot in
front of us to play these next three games, still
kind of control our opportunity to make the playoffs. How
do you talk to the guys about that, But at
the same time kind of referencing, Hey, we got some
marriers to get better.

Speaker 9 (31:33):
Absolutely, you got to hit it head on. Luke, you
know you have to be able to take the information
and make sure guys are coachable the pursuit and our
goal is to find our best football and today was
not that. We talk about playing smart and finish, and
you know, we didn't play smart today. We gave some
opportunities to the Saints, and we got to give the
Saints a lot of credit because they put together some
great drives at the end to finish. And I'd like

(31:54):
to see our group just continue to find that chemistry
with each other so that we can find the finish.

Speaker 8 (32:00):
Along those same lines. You guys have been really good
at bouncing back off the mat this year with the
stakes and with this result. How do you make sure
that a loss like this doesn't beat you twice?

Speaker 9 (32:11):
Yeah, get back to work. It's about our process. It's
about respecting the next opponent. We got the Bucks coming
up real soon. And as we tie up, you know
this this game and look at the things we need
to correct tomorrow. We have to quickly move forward and
get back to work. And the work always brings us back,
It brings our mentality back, and then we have we
have a great opportunity.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
In front of us, all Right, thank you, Dave.

Speaker 9 (32:30):
Okay, thanks thanks guy.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
So yeah, I mean you look at it and you
have to move on. There's still everything still left to
play for. You got two against Tampa Bay. If you
win both games against Tampa Bay, you win the division.
But definitely had one that it also felt better if
we had just straight up lost the game, as opposed
to the way it happened, where you had the lead,
you're up to ten in the second half, and things

(32:54):
happen and unraveled into a loss. And again partial credit
to New Orleans, no doubt about it, but the Panthers
had their hands all over this loss as well, don't
you think, e Genie.

Speaker 5 (33:03):
Yeah, but when we lost seventeen to seven, the first
I thought that, all right, well, we gave things away
and we have clearly had margining. Clearly I thought we
should have beat that team. We lost this game here.
I just thought we made some bad decisions and we're

(33:23):
winning the game. You know, we're making bad decisions, and
I'm sitting there like this. You can't be a playoff
team because when everybody gets to the playoffs, you can't
make mistakes because everybody will capitalize on it that they
make fewer mistakes and they have eleven penalties, and to

(33:44):
have like the way it unfolded towards the fourth quarter,
to have the way and unfolded. I'm sitting there like this, dude,
learn from it. You got to learn from this a
lot sooner than what we we're asking you to learn
from it, because you're not gonna have any more opportunities
to get it done. So the frustration is mounting. But
you gotta be really honest with yourself and said, dude,

(34:07):
we're not as good.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
As we think we are. We're not.

Speaker 5 (34:10):
We can play some good ball, yeah, but we're not
as good as we think we are because we can't
leave that what we saw today as our calling card
is this is who we are, because I don't think
that's who we are at all. And it was. It
was terrible, you know. And I would rather lose the
first game than I lose this game. You know, I'll
take that loss because that was uncharacteristic play. But this loss, man,

(34:34):
well feels like we gave it away a little bit
characteristic play a little bit, yeah, And.

Speaker 6 (34:39):
I think you mentioned it too when we were watching
the game. I mean, there were what three plays we
saw that Panthers missed opportunities to strip the ball away.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Ms that fund bullship and recovered.

Speaker 5 (34:54):
Yeah, and this is what we always say this too,
is like when you're in a game, you can't come
to the huddle saying, oh, I'll get the next one.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
I mean, no, you gotta get that one. You have
to get that play.

Speaker 5 (35:06):
That play comes to you that's designed for you to
make because they're throwing the ball in your area, or
you're blitzing or or you're getting to get the court.
You gotta make the sack. You gotta make the punch out,
You got to get the interception. I'm talking defensively. Now,
you gotta make that play. You know, McMillan had a
chance to make a great play. The ball was underthrown

(35:26):
a little bit. Yeah, it would have been a great
play to the catch.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
Right.

Speaker 5 (35:30):
However, I'm gonna stell say to Bryce, you gotta make
that throw, dude. That make it a lot easier for
him to make that catch. Beautiful exactly. So this is
a game about you. When the play comes to you,
zoke and I hand you the ball or you gotta
make you gotta make.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
It, zoke. And so if we're gonna be consistently good.

Speaker 5 (35:50):
Everybody has to do their part, and you got to
make the play when it comes to you. You just
have to. If you don't, I'll get it next time.
You say I'll get it next time. You are an
inconsistent team because you can't. You have no consistency at
all in making place.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Because the next lesson is gonna be stuff you learned
in the offseason for next season, exactly if we get.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
To the end.

Speaker 6 (36:08):
You can't just turn it on either.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Now at Seattle's in the middle of those two Tampa
Bay games. So it's oh, that's right as well, So
we will see, all right, we'll go to take another
time out here. Much more to come as we continue.
It's our postgame show Jim along with Mike and you.
Jane twenty seventeen, the Saints win over the Panthers and
you're listening to Panthers Football and back with more after
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(36:59):
Jalen Coker the player guest.

Speaker 8 (37:01):
We're joined by Panthers wide receiver Jalen Cocher. Jalen, how
do you walk away from a game like this?

Speaker 11 (37:08):
I think we just got to just flush it, get
back to work. That's the only thing we can do.

Speaker 10 (37:14):
Yeah, Jalen is Jake here. It's a talk a little
bit about your touchdown pass. Did you think it was
a double move?

Speaker 7 (37:21):
Right?

Speaker 10 (37:21):
But did you think initially with them playing over ten
to twelve yards off of you, that they would bite
that much and bryce you're able to get that past attempt?

Speaker 11 (37:29):
Yeah, I mean I'm running all my routes to win,
and regardless of if they bite or not, I'm still
trying to, you know, get full strides and you know,
do my best to get open after the catch. So
I think just playing with my hands in the second
part of the route to kind of create a little
separation and then make the catch.

Speaker 7 (37:45):
Jay and Luke here, just kind of what's the mentality
this team moving forward going into this Tampa week and
know obviously a tough loss coming off the bye week,
But what's your guys mentality with these next three games
controlling the opportunity to go to the playoffs.

Speaker 11 (37:57):
Yeah, I mean, I think we're playing meaningful football still,
you know, and the whole whole room feels that.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
We all know that.

Speaker 11 (38:02):
So you know, we're just gonna have to flush this
and just continue to continue to work and just get
back to what we know.

Speaker 8 (38:08):
Jalen, what do you feel is the key for this
team to kind of handle the success part of it
and finish the season strong.

Speaker 11 (38:17):
Just take it a day out of time, you know,
just go want to know every single day that's all
we can do.

Speaker 8 (38:21):
And then can you speak to your growing chemistry here
with Bryce the last couple of games, it seems like
there is a harmony in a chemistry. What's different the
last few games?

Speaker 11 (38:33):
Well, I don't think anything's different, you know, I just
you know, I just catch the balls that he throws.
You know, that's my job, so that's what I'm out
there to do.

Speaker 8 (38:42):
Jalen appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Absolutely tough one to lose though, and now Jalen Coker
has been a big weapon.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
That was a great touchdown grab there.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Did we did we maybe take the gas off the
pedal a little bit more on both sides of the
ball as far as like trying to just hang on
and win the game instead of staying in that mode.

Speaker 5 (38:59):
Yeah, I thought that we need to be a little
bit more proactive and aggressive offensively. One of the weapons
that we can easily employ is the fact that Bryce
can run. I mean, he does a really good job
of running and picking up first downs. And I'm sitting
there like this, Okay, if he can, if you want

(39:19):
to go ahead and send everybody deep and let Bryce
beat the lineman and that linebacker and let him go
ahead and eat I would use that as a as
a weapon to, you know, to set things up. And
also defensively, I've said this already before, is that I
just thought that we left opportunities out there because I
thought we should have been a little bit more aggressive
with some blisses getting some six man pressures in his

(39:42):
face while we go ahead and do some man and
man coverage, and we didn't do that until the one
of the very last place in that fourth fourth quarter
session when they were moving the ball. We were in
zones zone zone, zone, zone, red zones. Oh now we
pull up a man Bliss. They beat jac Horn, which

(40:02):
is you know, that's not hard. Jason was there, but
it's not hard to do that. And so from that standpoint,
I'm like, dude, I thought we was a misopportunity. I'm like, dude, bliss,
these cats. Man, don't let shucks sit back there in
the pocket and eat. He's sitting back there eating like
eating cherios. Man, don't let him eat. Get after this cat.

Speaker 6 (40:19):
It's like, if it's if it's not broke, don't fix it.
Because the earlier in the game they were doing something
exactly you know. So, And I understand sometimes situationally you
want to change things up a little bit, but I
don't think that's the case right there, or the time
to do it right there.

Speaker 4 (40:31):
Yeah, I.

Speaker 5 (40:33):
Just thought that they're playing it safe and soft that bend,
but don't break. I get you don't want people to
get behind you. You always talk about the double move,
this and that, when he can get in it. But
they're looking to get a field goal to go ahead. Well,
first are looking for seven points. Then they're looking for
a field goal together and see if they can win
the game. I'm like, that's ten points, dude, you can.

(40:55):
It's somewhere in there. You can be a little bit
more aggressive. Somewhere in there. I think you can. You
can show your teeth because you got the players who
can get it done.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
All right.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Well, here what Jake dilom, Luke, Kickley, and Niche had
to say following the game when we send it back
to New Orleans. In our next segment coming up, Panthers
lose by three to the Saints. You're listening on the
Carolina Panthers radio network, Gather new your radio final thoughts

(41:25):
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Orleans twenty to seventeen.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
Let's see what the guys had to say afterwards.

Speaker 8 (41:49):
Any Schrop, Jake Dilome, Loukekickley, there is no way to
sugarcoat it. This one stings. Panthers were coming off of
bye week, and we said it the beginning of the broadcast,
handling success the last thing on this check mark. It's
a young team, it's an ascending team. They've made a
lot of progress this year, but for them to take

(42:11):
that next step, you needed to string together some wins
down the stretch. If playoff football was going to be
a reality, it's still on the table. If you beat
Tampa twice you can get in. There's one other scenario
which allows you to get in. But I thought Jake
coming into this game second time against New Orleans after

(42:32):
you lost the first time, it was hard to see
that happening again. And given the way this team played
before the bye, the fact that they were healthier, this
just felt like a game where the Panthers would come
in take care of business, and for three quarters they
were on that track, and then in the fourth quarter,

(42:52):
just some things that we saw earlier in the game
flared their ugly head again, namely penalties, and the Saints
kick a field goal with two seconds left from Charlie
Smith and they go on to win twenty to seventeen.
The sting of this one now means that you do
have to worry now about a game like this beating
you more than once.

Speaker 10 (43:12):
Yeah, absolutely, and that's something that coming off of a bye,
kind of thought we'd get a little fresher, but just
hone in right, And it seemed like it was the opposite.
With all the penalties, which we haven't had many, and
it's just the little penalties. And I think Luke Kidd
during the broadcast talking about the second and longs, the
third and lungs and we're giving up these lego hands

(43:32):
to the face and things of that nature. And we
just we weren't crisp today. We weren't clean, and you
just you feel like it almost feels like a funeral.
You just you let one slide. Because it's Saints team.
And listen, they play hard. Their last game against Tampa,
they played hard. They went to Raymond James and beat them.
It wasn't like it was a fluke. The young quarterbacks

(43:54):
really playing well for them. But I think the thing
that maybe bothers me the most is that when they
just went down a field in the fourth quarter effortless,
like there was no restriction from us defensively, and Luke mentioned, hey,
not getting lined up, and those are the things that, man,
we really haven't seen from this team. And that's the
frustrating part is that when we're we gonna take that

(44:14):
next step right and today would have been the day.
That third quarter, we get the ball to start it,
we go down, we score, we're up seventeen to seven.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
Okay, guys, it's time.

Speaker 10 (44:24):
Now, now's the time let's kind of put our you know,
put our foot down and let's extend this lead. And again,
we had an opportunity with over two or three minutes
up to go in the game, and opportunity with six
minutes up to go in the game to go end it,
and we we just didn't do it. We weren't we
weren't sharp enough. And you know, the players are gonna
be very critical of themselves. I think the coaches will
hold them accountable and got to get ready to go

(44:45):
play Tampa, who's not playing well either.

Speaker 8 (44:46):
No, but Luke, I think that's the hard part.

Speaker 6 (44:48):
Right now.

Speaker 8 (44:50):
You have up the stakes for the season, and we
knew that coming in, and now can you bounce back
up off the mat because Tampa's down. You got to
imagine Tampa having played on Thursday, watches this game. That's
got to give the Buccaneers some kind of a lift.
You've got to be ready for next Sunday. You can't
let this game beat you more than once.

Speaker 7 (45:09):
And we've we've shown we've shown the ability to after
a difficult game to move on from it. But it
is it is frustrating Tampa loss. We have an opportunity
to win today, to take it to take full control
of the division. And then inside the game today we
had opportunities to go win the game and we just
weren't able to get it done. So at some point
we have to realize and now, still moving forward, we

(45:29):
still have an opportunity to win this division. We played
Tampa twice and then Seattle two divisional games, and it's
it's still right in front of us. But at some
point we have to go ahead and grab and seize
this opportunity and make it our own because every game
from here on out is essentially a playoff game. We
got to play. We gotta play each play, We gotta
pleach each each snap. We can't have little lapses during

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the game, whether it's a penal or Jake reference that
that drive in the fourth quarter where they go down
and score on that slant route and the zero coverage
to a love We didn't look like we were settled.
We didn't look like we were something was a little
bit off, and we can't have those lapses in the
game that get give teams the opportunity to get back
in And just too many penalties that we were self inflicted.

(46:13):
I mean extending drives, the late the ransom, personal foul
penalty that stops the clock and gives them fifteen yards closer.
Just too many little things. And eventually we have to
seize these opportunities and take a hold of them because
eventually they're not going to be there anymore. Like we
kind of talked about, the one good thing that we
have is we've shown the ability to bounce back after

(46:33):
a tough loss. We're gonna be at home next week.
Hopefully we get some great support at Bank of America.
But Tampa's was reeling. But they've got a couple extra
days to kind of get themselves back, and they're saying
the same thing that we're saying. We didn't play our
best game, but everything's right in front of us, and
it makes the next three games for us very exciting.

Speaker 8 (46:51):
It does, and two of them are at home, but
it doesn't quite take away from the sting of this
one in the moment. The Panthers had their chances done
in today by eleven penalties one hundred and three penalty
yards for the Carolina Panthers in the first half. You
give the Saints credit, Jake. They shrank the game. They
had an eleven minute drive. They had another drive in

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the second half of almost eight minutes. That's about nineteen
plus minutes of game time that they took away from
the Panthers. And Carolina had a lot of success for
the first three quarters moving the ball on New Orleans,
but again ill time penalties, a couple of late hits
when the quarterback was sliding. Those are fifteen yarders. You
get the one at the end, laythan Ransom, I'm sure

(47:33):
regrets it. Rookie mistake. Tough one to swallow, but you
got to figure out a way to bounce back. Here
are the avenues to the playoff. If you beat Tampa twice,
you're in. If you beat Tampa once and then you
beat Seattle and the Bucks lose to Miami, that also
puts the Panthers in. But again, the good news everything

(47:54):
is still in front of Carolina. The bad news was
this was a very real missed opportunity to take control today.

Speaker 10 (48:00):
Yeah, I agree, And just looking at the stat sheet
and I'm watching Tyler shuck twenty four for thirty two
for two seventy two. You know, I just kind of
felt if he threw thirty two times today.

Speaker 6 (48:11):
Like we go get one.

Speaker 7 (48:13):
That's our game.

Speaker 10 (48:14):
We're gonna win, right, We're gonna We made them one
dimensional and they lose a running back another running back.
And that's the frustrating part is that rookie quarterback looked
very comfortable back there, made some good plays, made big
plays when they had to. And yeah, it's we let
one get away. I don't think there's any other any
other way about it. I know we're a team that
bounces back, right, We've seen that numerous times.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
But you know, for right now, it's a it stings.
It sings pretty good.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
All right.

Speaker 8 (48:40):
He's Jake delone. You heard from Luke Kickley and a
Shroff final score from the Superdome Saints twenty Panthers seventeen.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
All right, So that's the thoughts of Jake and Luke
and Aniche.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
We'll take a break. When we come back.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
We'll get our final thoughts coming up in two segments
away from now. I gotta pick our hardest working player
the game as well two segments ago. We'll continue to
wrap things up here and as the Panthers lose at
New Orleans twenty to seventeen.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
Back to Chiinzok live from the Bank of America Stadium
with the Panthers postgame show exclusively on the Carolina Panthers
Radio Network.

Speaker 6 (49:20):
And back at Bank of America Stadium. Panther is falling
today in New Orleans seventy to seventeen. Like Chico, Jim
z Ok, Eugene Robinson with you, and only one game
going on right now. Will be a kind of a
brief score update. We also have Miami and Pittsburgh coming
up tomorrow night, but going on right now, Dallas already
a seven nothing lead that game well midway through the
first quarter, and Dak Prescott two of three with fourteen

(49:42):
yards in the air, and so Dallas an early lead.
They're kind of a team that Panthers have to keep
an eye on too, just and I don't know, I
think wildcard chances are probably slim, but they're a team
that's kind of right there with Carolina at sixty six
in one before they tackle the Vikings here tonight.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Yeah, they're fighting for their playoff lives. Dallas still in
the hunt. Panthers, I think either way remained in the
hunt of the last week of the season, whether it's
wild card or division championship.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
If we had won today, if we had won next
week as well, we'd have the next The last two
weeks wouldn't have mattered as far as they.

Speaker 6 (50:18):
Set up as far as you know, injuries and getting
guys healthy.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
And now the winner of next week's game Eugene Panthers
hosting Tampa Bay.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
Will walk out with the lead.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
We want you to go exactly have the leverage heading
into the next week, which for the Panthers will be Seattle.
I'm not sure what Tampa has in between our two games,
and then we'll have Tampa Bay obviously on the road in.

Speaker 3 (50:37):
The last one, but having them here at home.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
As opposed to going down to the wire on the
road makes it obviously a much more pertinent game for
Carolina to be able to win this game next week.

Speaker 6 (50:47):
Tampa just has Miami in between.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
Miami's playing better. Yeah, so that's that's not too easy either.

Speaker 4 (50:53):
Yeah, I mean that's great.

Speaker 5 (50:57):
But we had it right here all in front of
us to day today, and that's the most disappointing. And
I hear it in Jake's voice. I hear it, and
Luke's voice, you can hear it, and you could just
you can just feel it. And wow, I mean, we
have to change the way we do things our mo
because this win big games, lose games, win big games,

(51:20):
lose games. You can't survive like that nothing else to
The Saint have.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
Won four games and two of them are against I know.

Speaker 6 (51:26):
Well, but I think in the next step of the development,
right is you know, you went from kind of losing
a lot of games to losing close games to starting
to win games. Now you got to win the close
games and the games that have something on the line
if you want to be that team. And that's kind
of where we're at right now, where they have to
get over that hump where they have to start putting
some some quality wins together even when circumstances aren't great,
which is today was kind of one of those when

(51:47):
things started to fall apart. It kind of snowballed in
the at the end there.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
And Tampa Bays lost five of their list six. But
I think they're going to be a little bit different
Team of the Week two for Mike Evans, who was
well over one hundred r in their game last week.
Bucky Irving back for another week.

Speaker 6 (52:03):
As they should be revived knowing that they got a chance.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
Yeah, I mean, I think they're gonna get some juice
from the fact that we brought them back into this.
I mean, Baker loves going on the road. You know,
he'll plan a flag on your field.

Speaker 6 (52:13):
He'd like to do it against the Panthers.

Speaker 4 (52:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Yeah, and they've got to See'm darneled between the two
Baker Mayfield ones. As far as former Panther quarterbacks go,
so a lot of drama kind of a tour with
a former.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
Quarterback, it is.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
It is.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
Yeah, I don't want see Tyler shuck anytime soon. Ago
that kid today it wasn't like you lit us up,
but man, we when the chips were down here on
us down to that dome, that is a I hate
that place. I hate the super Dome. I just it's
always like.

Speaker 6 (52:40):
Dark.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
I just thowt you're right.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
I think it Drew Brees just doing his little pop
gun thing all over the field and putting points all
over the place. Man, We've had a close series throughout,
but it's just like New Orleans is just one of
those like how's the horror kind of places for us.

Speaker 4 (52:54):
I think sometimes it's just I'm with you, I'm just
with you. I'm I'm just mad. You know.

Speaker 5 (53:00):
Jake DeLoone said something about the rooky mistake would ransom,
and I just don't buy that. I can't buy the
rookie mistake because when you get to this point and
at this point in the season, you know that everything
that you do is.

Speaker 4 (53:14):
On the line.

Speaker 5 (53:14):
You know that, you know that when you're in there,
you're gonna be talking amongst yourself saying like this, Hey,
we gotta get him down, we gotta do this, we
gotta be doing You're gonna be talking about situations in scenarios,
and so that has to be one of them that
don't get a late hit, don't you know, if he's
going down, just tag him. There has to be one
of the things that you talk about. And so I

(53:36):
just don't buy that, like the rookie mistake, because when
you were a senior in college, everybody was talking about this.
He's a senior college and he's you know, he knows
a lot and he you know, he doesn't make these
rookie mistakes, and you say all that type of stuff.
You can learn enough from everybody else. And you already
had to play with Derek Brown, had to play. We

(53:58):
hit the quarterback, so that had to be a point
of emphasis.

Speaker 4 (54:01):
It had to be. So I'm just not buying it.

Speaker 5 (54:03):
And I'm a Ransom fan, but I'm just saying I'm
hurt right now because Rassom, you should have easily laid
off of the quarterback and make it a sixty two
sixty three yard field goal at best right there. So up, yeah, yeah,
that's frustrating.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
And he's running right at you is the other thing.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
It wasn't like exactly if it's in the pocket and
the guy releases the ball, it's hard to stop your momentum.
But he's literally running right at you for you to
hit him. You had to go down as low as
he was sliding to make the contract.

Speaker 5 (54:31):
With Exactly, dude, Exactly. I've been in a situation when
the quarterback is sliding and I'm like, okay, you's sliding.

Speaker 4 (54:40):
Just tag them to just touch him down. That's easy. Well,
don't have to touch him down because he's already given
himself up.

Speaker 5 (54:47):
And so from that standpoint, I just I'm just frustrated
with Rassom because I think he's a heck of a player. Yes,
definitely learned from it, but you should have learned from
that a long time ago.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
All Right, we have one more segment, Togo. We have
to pick our hardest work player of the game. We
got a couple of candidates we could be thinking about.
There was a big guy in the defensive line ninety
seven that we were calling his name out a lot
early on in the game. Who might be a candidate
for that who the prerogative little musical note, I can
name that player in two notes or three notes notes

(55:19):
one note. Yeah, So we'll get to that and more
in this last segment that is coming up next.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
Panthers lose at New Orleans twenty to seventeen.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
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of the Carolina Panthers. We saw a few names out there,
and then at the end we pick one I teached
just I would say Bobby Brown as a candidate. Yes,
six tackles, three solo, had half a sack. He was
really a force on that defensive line. So I kind
of think of this as kind of a lunch pale,
blue collar kind of award. So as a candidate, I

(56:14):
threw out there, Bobby Brown, Mike, who do you have
as a candidate.

Speaker 6 (56:18):
I would go with Jalen Coker. He was targeted four times,
had four catches, the beautiful touchdown catch. You know, and
that was a nice throw too for Bryce Young thirty
two yards for the touchdown he made. Some of those
other catches were nice catches, so he would be my
my slutch for me.

Speaker 5 (56:33):
I thought the defense didn't do enough in the fourth period,
and so I'm gonna move my vote from Bobby Brown
to Jaylen Coker.

Speaker 4 (56:43):
I thought that he played, uh. I thought he played well.

Speaker 5 (56:45):
You know, yeah, I'm frustrated just like everybody else, But
I thought Jayalen Cocher was a guy. Was definitely a guy,
and moving forward, I would get that come to I'm
trying to get in the ball.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
He's clearly established himself as the number two.

Speaker 5 (56:59):
Number two gaver in this no doubt about it. He's
the number two receiver on this team, no doubt about it.

Speaker 4 (57:03):
And he's that good.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Give me this toe tap getting that pass. I bounced
down the sideline to make the touchdown.

Speaker 5 (57:10):
His spatial awareness is incredible and that's what you want
from a receiver. And then he catches the I mean
I always say he's catching the ball with his hands
or what gonna catch with it? But people body catch
the ball, which is easy to go ahead and do,
but he's really always catching the ball with his hands,
which is great. You know, Steve Largin did that. A
guy I played with who's in the Hall of Fame

(57:30):
who caught so many passes, Jerry Rice and then breaking
his records and stuff. But Steve Largent was the guy
who caught the ball with his hands every single time,
didn't even wear gloves. He just will always catch the ball.
I'm like, dude, he said, Gene, I catch with my hands.
That's what you need to do. Extend your hands, catch
the ball because you let it get to your body.

Speaker 4 (57:47):
He said.

Speaker 5 (57:47):
What's going to happen is the ball's coming in real fast.
It can bounce off your chest down to the ground.
You don't have a second chance to catch it.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
All right, So Saints win in the end twenty to seventeen.
We've used all of our words for this one. Yes,
thanks our crew, Hammrick, Hemn, Jason.

Speaker 4 (58:04):
My enthusiasm is gone, go ahead, No.

Speaker 3 (58:07):
Yours was fine.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
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Speaker 5 (58:12):
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your dog.

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Bernie Bulls.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
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Speaker 4 (58:46):
Bernie Birdy's gonna be with you, mums?

Speaker 1 (58:48):
What's that big money?

Speaker 3 (58:49):
That to his face? Last show? He looks right at you.

Speaker 4 (58:53):
What my bad bee money?

Speaker 3 (58:54):
Braxton Miller, I know be I know practice is right
over there.

Speaker 5 (58:58):
He's left already, he's way back to all right, Broxen,
you left already, Broxton, holl.

Speaker 4 (59:02):
At your boy.

Speaker 3 (59:03):
And I think you know this one, David Lan.

Speaker 4 (59:05):
He's staring to drink.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
Hi God, we did this last time. Bernie's Bernie's gonna
be very upset.

Speaker 4 (59:12):
Sorry, Bernie.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
All right, are you guys back for the show next week?
So we'll be doing it from this at North Lounge.

Speaker 4 (59:18):
I assume let's do it under the veil umbrella of
a win.

Speaker 3 (59:21):
It would be an amazing win to get back up
for that too. You know, we're a glass case of emotion.
We zig.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
When we zag, every emotion goes the next way. So
next week's gonna line up as.

Speaker 4 (59:30):
I I think it's our time to go ahead and
one again.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
That's who we are.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
We're the Panthers of twenty twenty five, twenty seventeen, the
final Saints win over the Panthers. Will talk to you
when the Buccaneers come to town next Sunday.

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