April 10, 2025 • 25 mins
Patriots players Garrett Bradbury and Antonio Gibson address the media on Thursday, April 10, 2025.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, everyone. Good, good, How are you guys all right?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
As a transition been so far?
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Yeah, it's been good. It's it's all new, right, spent
the last six years elsewhere. Uh so right now it's
just getting to know everyone. You know, this coaching staff,
this locker room, all you guys, all the support staff.
But but it's good. It's uh my wife and my
daughter are not here right now for OTAs, so it's
a good time to get to know everyone, hang out
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with them outside the building, work together. So it's it'll
be a process, but it'll be good. Part of what
group it's growing to s Stephen And how much did.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
You know about Han't been?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Maybe his latest year round here. Yeah, I've heard. I've
heard nothing but good things from guys that have played
with him, guys that know him. I have a lot
of respect for him. He played a long time in
this league at the same place, in the same city.
I've heard the stuff he's done outside in the community.
I think his play speaks for itself. When you're the
guy at one position in one city for ten years,
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that's you tip your cap to him. So look forward
maybe getting to know him or introduce myself to him.
But yeah, I have nothing but good things in respect
to say about a guy like that. Lets you know
about drink Ny and you're yeah, I love Drake so far.
It's kind of a weird family connection. My brother in
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law's baseball player played with his brother Cole at Florida
and they're best friends. So I was going through the
free agency process. They were all like New England, New England,
New England. So it got to know him a little bit.
Played some competitive ping pong with him, so there will
be some There'll be some battles in the future. He
likes to golf, so we'll probably get on a golf
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course or in OTA's. But yeah, it's it's getting to
know the guys. It's building relationships, connections. Uh So I'm
looking forward to that the next couple of months.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
We talked to some guys about new traction and coachings.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
One games in the last two years. For you, what
was the thing that kind of you to this, Frank, Yeah,
you know, I think nothing in the past matters, right,
you live in the president in this league. No matter
what you've done, good or bad in the past matters.
It's what can you do for me now? What have
you done for me lately, and I think it's exciting
to come into a new place with a new staff
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as well. Right, it's I've had teammates that played for
coach for abel and have nothing but awesome things to
say about them. That's what my first signed here. Everyone
reached out like you're gonna love coach, and so it's
new for not just me. Right, it's not like this
staff and this system has been here for years. It's
all right, let's all work together. It's new for a
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lot of people. Let's learn the system, learn each other
and work to win games. So that was attractive, right,
It's it's just it's new, and so it's like, all right,
let's all learn this together. From some of the defensive
players on Tuesday that they've already started some installed on
their concepts.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Are you doing that on the offensive side, and what
are your first impressions.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Of what coach? Yeah, so it's nice with a new
coach you start early, so we have two extra weeks
compared to most other teams. So a lot of it's
been culture so far. It's establishing a standard, an expectation,
and we can take it a little slower, so we're
not diving into the plays. We're talking terminology, verbiage. Like
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I said, those expectations, and I think some of these
coaches it's a new system for them too, so they
had to learn it a few months ago, which is
good because they can be like, all right, we had
these questions, so like I want to install it this way,
so let's all look at it this way, and then
we'll just build from there. So yeah, it's we'll get
into the nitty gritty details of it later, but right now,
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it's just trying to learn everything from the base up.
And so we got plenty of meeting time in the
next couple of months and looking forward to getting into it.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
When you talk about coaches establishing a culture and setting expectations,
what specifically does that sound like or look like when
you're are those two meetings.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
So a big thing that I was told coming in
was coach Frabele, We'll ask a bunch of questions in
team meetings, like you have to know your stuff, which
I love. I think that if you have to be
ready to answer any question, whether it's about rules, whether
it's about goals, whether it's about individual plays like coaching points.
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I think everyone in that meeting room understands they have
to be on top of their stuff. And when you
do that, if you're the left tackle and you know
what the right guard is going to do, I think
you play faster. I think when you know the whole system,
when you know the whole big picture, and I even
know what the receivers have to do, or coach Frabel's
up there talking about the defense and what their angles
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and what their thought process is. It's just you see
the big picture of the game. And I think the
faster you can play, the better you can play. And
so I think that will be good moving forward as
a collective locker room and team meeting room where every
everyone knows everyone's job and so you can kind of
exploit weaknesses and understand what they're trying to do too.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I know it's early, but have you guys talked it
all about how the communication at the line of scrimmage
is going to work?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
You know, is that going to be on Drake's plate?
On your play combination? I think it's a combination. I
think Drake will have a lot, but I think Drake's
ready for that. They wouldn't put a lot on his
plate if they didn't have belief in him, and I
think he's a really smart young player and it will
only help him grow. I think sometimes you can just
try and take a bunch off a quarterbacks plate and
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it's like, sure, let's make it simple for him. But
I think the more it's on his plate and the
more that he can understand, like I said, bigger picture,
he can understand what everyone's doing and get everyone in
the right place. So there'll be certain times where like
we all want to work together, right, but that's an
important position and you got to have that position figured
it out. And from everything I've heard, they do here,
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so I'm excited to get to work with him. True,
and just that opportunity.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
What's the did you get an opportunity to see him
play at all last season, whether it's like watching the
film or anything, And what can you say about his
first year.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
In the NFL and just his play aside? Yeah, you know,
he went to Chapel Hill, so I saw him in
college a little bit. Went to our rival school, so
didn't like playing against him. But I was in the
NFC the past couple of years and I think we've
only only played the Patriots once, and so there's not
a ton of crossover film, so I think the only
things you really see are like the big highlight plays,
and I saw that last second touchdown at Tennessee and
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just some little things here and there. But I don't
really know quarterback detail play, So I can't tell you
what kind of year he had, what kind of player
he is. All I can base it off of is
guys that have played with him, and I've heard nothing
but good things from the guy, from the player. So
that's what I'm looking forward to between the little Yeah, yeah,
he's he's a competitive guy, so I think he'll find
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any kind of edge to.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Wear the other sweatshirts.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
That'll be easy, that'll be easy to do. I think
the wolf back I've had their number the last couple
of years, so I got the upperhand right now.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Hasn't been big teammates with stuff on Diggs and.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
That, Yeah, yeah, I was. I was fired up to
see him. I was a young guy and he was
obviously a superstar receiver, and so there were some things
that I could learn from him, and he wasn't big time, right.
You come to the NFL as a rookie and you're like,
you obviously know their names, and you don't know if
they're gonna care about you talk to you. But he
loved the old line and so had a good relationship
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with him. Played against someone who's in Buffalo, played against
some wheys in Houston. So when I saw him for
the first time, I was pretty fired up to see him.
And as talent speaks for itself, so it's a it's
a good weapon to have prediction with him. You do
you have each other connections with his locker room head. Yeah,
you know there's five or six guys that had stops
in Minnesota. There's two in the line room, Tyreus Robinson,
Vedarian Lowe. I had Vadarian as a rookie and and
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we kind of put him through the ringer as a rookie.
So to see him as like a vet left tackle
now is kind of a different I gotta adjust, but
it's good to see those faces. Tires. Tonga had him
for a few years. We had some battles. Jacquelin Roy
was in Minnesota, and then it's such a small league.
I have good friends and other teams, so it'll be like, hey,
Patriots just signed this guy. Patriots had this guy. You're
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gonna love them so, like I said, that's that's what
these months are for. I think it's it's building camaraderie,
building connections, getting on the golf course, going bawling, going
to a movie, getting dinner. That stuff actually goes a
long way, because, as you guys know, it's a long season.
There's ups and downs, and like if you feel like
you're in it by yourself, it's gonna be even a
longer season. So I really feel like that's important. Look Dunborough, Yeah,
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Doug's great. Doug actually my line coach in college who's
with the Falcons now. Doug actually coached him when he
was in New Orleans. So that's about the only connection
I have with him. I know he's been in this
league for a long time. I love former players as coaches,
so he played in this league for a while, he's
coaching this league forever, and so they just I don't know,
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from my perspective, they have a different understanding the coach speak.
They can sometimes be like listen, I know I'm telling
you to do this, but you gotta get done this
way or this way or this way. And so he's
another guy that it's a newer system for him, so
he spent the last months learning a couple of months
learning it, and he's had a million systems so he
can kind of understand how he wants to install it
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to us. He likes interactive meetings, which I love. So
there's quizes thrown out, there's hey, what do you got
in this? What do you got in this?
Speaker 5 (09:29):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (09:29):
And we have two assistants in the Neil line room,
which that's new to me, which is awesome because you
got three guys that will know the system like the
back of their hand that I can just have questions
anything I need to know, bounce ideas off there.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
How much.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Helpily are you with Mike and Whinnywin?
Speaker 4 (09:46):
How do you feel like you guys can talk them
on each other inside?
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, I've heard. I've heard really good things about Mike.
I'm excited. He's a big guard, he's a physical player.
So I'm definitely looking forward to hitting some combinations with
that guy.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
You're about in Minnesota.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Just putting a bow in your time here and.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Just sort of how it ended and if that brings
you here.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Would you like a feeling of a show that I
like that I'm still.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Like I should start Yeah, Yeah, absolutely, No, I had
six great years in Minnesota. It's it's a great locker room,
built some really good connections there and it ended right.
That's the business. Uh So it's like, all right, I
don't think you never want to feel comfortable, but that's
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a wake up call. That's all right, here we go.
That's that's how they feel. They move on. There's no
ill will. I'm not bitter towards the Vikings. It's just
a new opportunity for me. I feel like when there's
a change, if you don't take the opportunity, you're not
going to grow from it. And so it's more about like,
all right, I get to reinvent myself. I get to
reprove myself. And the minute you think you have it
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figured out, you're you're gone. And so all right, new team,
new chapter, new offense. What can I bring? And you
got to bring it every day. It's the biggest thing
I've learned that every single day you have to bring
in meeting room, practice, weight room. Uh So, I'm not
even a wake up call, but it's just it's just new.
It's exciting, it's a fresh start, new opportunity.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Anything about your first two days in New England, facility, teammates,
coaches driving around is.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Surprising, hasn't been allowed driving around. Kind of been here
in the hotel, got out and played a little golf yesterday.
The facility. What's kind of nice is it's all in
this little square right here Minnesota. You kind of had
a mile walk to cafeteria, the weight room, so it's nice.
You're kind of bumping elbows with everyone throughout the day,
which is good as a new guy, like, oh hey,
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nice to meet you. Hey, what's up. But there's a
weight room, there's a locker room, there's a training room.
It's it's just another day at work. Honestly, it's amaze.
I'll say that I have no idea where I'm going.
Every every turn in every corner I make, I'm like,
all right, where's the locker room, where's the So that's
part of that new where you're just like it's first
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day of school and you don't know anyone, you don't
know where to go. But it's kind of refreshing, it's
it's it's fun for a couple of days. But if
you ever watched any of Logan Makings film, he was, yeah,
I haven't seen the time of this film. But I
know the player, I know the name. There's been some
awesome line in here. Joe Toney comes to mind. Played
with him in NC State my first two years I
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transitioned positions, came into the line. We were roommates when
we traveled. I can't think of a better teammate player.
Uh So I need to hit him up and pick
his brain on this city, in this town. Having been
you know, someone is to sing a New England now
and there's it's heard about him of having been in
the locker room with him.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
What's like something fans can expect from.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Him, both off in the locker room and on how
competitive he is? And and when you have these superstar receivers,
I mean justin Jefferson, Adam Thiel, and I've played with
some good ones. You want them to be like that, right.
You want them to have belief in their talent. You
want them to want the ball. And when he's rolling
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and he's hard to stop, and so it's how can
we all work together? We need to get him the
ball right? And I know the coaches are gonna do
a good job of that. But you want competitive teammates.
I see that in Drake. It digs. I saw that firsthand,
and so I love I love getting ahuddle with guys
like that, with all the crazy looks.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Oh, with all the crazy looks that defense has been
throw at you. When someone who's had success, you know,
getting through all those When do you feel like things
kind of slowed down for you?
Speaker 1 (13:41):
And what would you say helped you? Got to get
the gun? I think going against Brian Flora's defense the
last couple of years, that has slowed everything down. Nothing
is like that, but it's just more it's master of
your own system. So you need to understand that the
rules and the whys of what you're doing. And then
once whatever someone throws out there for you, okay, let's
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just go back to my system. Go back to my rules.
And so being a new system, it's time to study.
It's time to get in the playbook and learn all that.
But repetition and experience, that's you gotta have that. We
we gotta get together. We got yet on the grass.
We gotta see looks. I gotta see how the right
guard communicates, how he wants me to communicate. It's all
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stuff like that, and it takes time. Thankfully, we have time.
I'm looking forward to getting to it two hard, just
to finish off the number one playing against the bigger
defensive tables and sometimes.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Those guys there big.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
How does that challenge you? And what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Maybe here for that?
Speaker 4 (14:40):
And you mentioned I give Carson and Blake can be back?
Speaker 3 (14:45):
How are your here playing?
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Its like you're here and you're gonna travel.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Back ever your weekend. Yeah, we'll be bouncing back. Sometimes
I haven't quite figured the whole thing out. I try
and take things like one, one hour at a time,
but yeah, you gotta have a plan. I think a
big thing is not letting the name on the back
of the jersey beat you. You know, as an old lineman,
you can watch film and you can nine of the
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time say I beat myself on that play. You know,
just because he's three hundred and seventy pounds, just because
he's a bigger dude, doesn't mean I need to change
up my set, change up my hands, change up my
attack plan. And so that's where the film study comes in.
It's like, all right, I beat myself on this play.
I put myself in a bad position because I felt
like I had to do something different. Obviously, the supplements
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of the weight room and nutrition and all that stuff
play a part, but at the end of the day,
technique wins, and you just have to line up and
have confidence in your ability and execute what you want
to do. Yeah. Yeah, great, mean you guys.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
Doing a little bit. I can't give me no hard times.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
We're talking to some of the defensive guys.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Oh this week they.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Said that certain defensive installed is after the same pla
years on offense, and so I was like, going, uh,
probably a little bit slower.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Uh. We've been covering the basics so down to the
defensive fronts of formations and things like that. We haven't
got to the install just yet. But it's day three,
so we're getting there.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Though.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
How was that terminology shift for you personally and even
around the league?
Speaker 5 (16:23):
But it's a it's a whole authentory always different. Uh.
I feel like I I've been dealing all that since
I got in the league, but same stuff, always different terms.
So that's kind of what we're going over now with
the basis and everything, so we can all get on
the same page of terminology wise, cause it's all the
same thing. But each coach and each you know, staff
when they uh you know when it's a change. They
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they come in with different terminology. So that's that's kind
of what we're getting at right now.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
How would you sum up your first year here? You know,
last year and as you look ahead already sort of bowling.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
That into your safe Uh not gonna sugarcoat Uh not
what uh what I wanted, but uh, you know it's
always room the bill, and that's the go. Uh. We
come in here in new year looking uh for the
positive and uh and that's what we're doing, Uh fresh start.
We're here a week early, so you know we want
week ahead of a lot of teams right now. So
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we're gonna start from there.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
And in Norway, when you say not shargar coll.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
I didn't feel we didn't we didn't win.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
So this is that's the go this year to win.
And uh that's just as simple as that.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Would have been. Your first impressions of Josh.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
Mctennas an exciting guy, uh, super energetic. I haven't seen
too much cause we kind of been split here and there.
But he came into the room, said a couple of
words popped back out real quick. But I got to
talk to him a little bit yesterday in the lunch
room and a super signed guy seems up. But you
know it's early right now, so I get to learn
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more as we go on.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
How long do you say, mins, what do you been
your first impressions.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Of Tony Dudes?
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Real cool guy.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
Uh, but just just a simple fact, you know, reaching
out throughout the off season of checking up on me,
just just staying in contact, like I got married. You know,
he wanted to see pictures and things of that nature.
So that that right there went a long way for
me already. So I appreciate that. Like I said, this early,
so we're still getting to learn, but everything's been smoothing
to meeting rooms.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
He was also about first gratulation, thank you, but also
just what a lot of people talk about Mike Rabel's
energy and just where you see in terms of like how.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Peace is it you're getting to one over.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Uh, We're getting a little bit of it.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
You can you can kind of see like he kind
of holding back a little bit right now. It's the
first couple of days, but uh, we're getting a little
bit of it.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
He asked lots of lots of questions and just to
keep us on our toes. So that's a little bit different,
but you can see like he's super excited. I think
he You can hear stories from like the players, like
he popping in everybody room and uh, he can't sit
still for too long and he started started saying little
stuff in there, and so you know it'll be exciting year.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
So get adventure the questions too, and be can you
give us a thing exa able to get called on?
What are you ask if you're mirable evil?
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (19:12):
So say Monday he came in and he was like,
all right, goes for the this year was the winning
the Vision or winning super Bowl? Whatever you know, whatever
he says.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
And then come Thursday today.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
And he's like, all right, what's our goal like stuff
like that. So like make sure we're on our toes,
make sure we're actually paying attention to things of that nature.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Anyone get caught?
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Nah, a few, maybe a little slow to answer, nobody
got caught yet.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
I'm not sure how much you talked about Woltz or anything,
but last year where you can get to see use
your flexibility and alignment wise, do you feel like that's
some of your people to get back to this season?
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Oh, we shall see whatever whatever we can do to
whatever I can do to help the team win. So
whatever the coach is asking me right now, that's what
I'm doing. Is like I said, it's super early, so
I'm not I'm not even gonna push to even go
there yet. But uh, you know, whatever that is in
the future, I'm gonna do my best to so that
they can see that I can do that. I say that,
so I'm gonna do what I need to do right
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now so you know they can see that I'm I'm
willing and I'm I'm able to do that.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
So here as a creator and you are you assuming
right after the drag you guys get in the mini
camp and he and training camp and you see Drink
as a repo. What's he like now?
Speaker 5 (20:21):
Is he's returning from his first A big difference uh
from seeing him you know, kind of sit back, kind
of watching things and learning to to come in there
just being vocal. Uh Like I said, we haven't done
too much so uh you know, but uh, he he
seems comfortable. Uh he's being himself, funny, goofy uh, smart
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and being the leader and things of that nature. So
it's still early, but you know, I'm super excited to
see what he brings, you know, to the table this year,
what's being a TV or stuff like that. A new guy,
new teammate. Uh, I'm glad to have him a part
of our team.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
You know he he's well, you know, respected in the
league and so can't wait to see. Uh, can't wait
to see what he brings to that receiving group and
you know where he can teach it, you know, and
the things he kind of shows because you can kind
of tell the energy he brings. I know he went
to the text and you can kind of see how
they grew, was kind of tight when he went to
you know, other things you kind of see like he
always has a close bond with the receiver group. So
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can't wait to see what he brings and teachers, you know,
and we could just build off of that. See an Tony, if.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
You talked about Drake seeing a big difference in him,
it's part that he not be even rookie either having
more confidence, more confidence being vocal or can you kind
of quantify that a little bit of.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
I don't think I said big difference, like I said
early right now, so like we haven't we haven't been
in the huddle, we haven't we haven't done any of
these things yet, so but like just just out of
the confidence I've seen that through last year, like him
getting his feet wet and getting us his starts and
then playing throughout this easy that just build confidence. And
then for him to go with that throughout the off season,
I'm pretty sure he's gonna come in way much better
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than he did last year with the confidence level, the
communication and everything he needs to to do to to
be that quarterback, to be the leader of the team.
So you know, once that gets going, I'm I'm pretty
sure that's what he's gonna be a positive.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Right.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
We heard a little of the last year what you
guysknew going to punch for as you said, this season
go to what he was wanting? How do the season
really develops out and wants to punish that, you know,
even like Frable mention and a lot of him do
you use essentially.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
How going just starting early? Uh? And it and it's
it's with all the backs. So we feel like we
always carry a lot of good backs and uh, you know,
just the work that we put in to show the
coaches that any of us can at any time step
on that field and and get what we need to
get done for the team, and it starts now. That's
what we're here for. That's what we're working, uh towards,
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and you know, just keep keep building from that weekend
and week out, and that's how we get to that
one two punch.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
You know, what are you hoping to?
Speaker 5 (23:03):
The show? And just the confidence the leadership. You know.
I feel like last year I kind of did did
what I needed to do, but I wasn't too much vocal.
So that's kind of one of the things I wanted
to do this year was come in do what I.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Need to do.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
So therefore I can feel comfortable to speak out when
I see something and and you know, and show the
guys you know, this is I'm doing this this way,
so like you know, maybe someone watching and come through,
and then I could also be vocal as well and
like all right, come on, like we need to pick
it up here, or we need to do this, you know,
keep it going, things like that. So my goal is
to be more vocal and be more of a leader
this year.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
You guys right now to expect the team to draft
the kid and run it back and bring.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
In your room and hurt any of that that's above
my pay grade. I don't know nothing about what they
do up there. When it comes to the draft. The
first few days have been about culture building and how
important to that for you guys. Almost every day that's
that's usually how it goes, especially with a new staff.
So so them telling us the message, and it's a
two way thing. They trust us, we trust them, and uh,
(24:05):
you know, we just got to buy into it. So
it goes from team to special teams to your individual
groups and they all kind of got different, but it
always it's always similar, So uh, just keep you probably
hear that for the whole first week, probably hear the
next week and then to kind of start to pay
but at the same time you still bring it up
like hey, what's our goal, like what we need to
do and things like that.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Patriots had shamed allowances finalists.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
It's Edelman, Adam Minitary and Logan Macans just wondering if
you see those guys watching on.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
TV back in the day and anything like that.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
Military nakings element is probably the only one I know
not to like to disrespect anybody. You know, you played
major part of it in that in that franchise, especially
when they were winning and uh, you know, winning Super
Bowls and things of that nature. And I think he
had a crazy catch to when I was a Falcons fan.
Uh and that kind of that kind of hurt my heart.
(24:58):
So it's a bitter sweet, but you know, much respect
for him. Of course, we had no choice but to
watch him because of the things they were doing.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
What you think, you have to take
Hello, everyone. Good, good, How are you guys all right?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
As a transition been so far?
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Yeah, it's been good. It's it's all new, right, spent
the last six years elsewhere. Uh so right now it's
just getting to know everyone. You know, this coaching staff,
this locker room, all you guys, all the support staff.
But but it's good. It's uh my wife and my
daughter are not here right now for OTAs, so it's
a good time to get to know everyone, hang out
(00:27):
with them outside the building, work together. So it's it'll
be a process, but it'll be good. Part of what
group it's growing to s Stephen And how much did.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
You know about Han't been?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Maybe his latest year round here. Yeah, I've heard. I've
heard nothing but good things from guys that have played
with him, guys that know him. I have a lot
of respect for him. He played a long time in
this league at the same place, in the same city.
I've heard the stuff he's done outside in the community.
I think his play speaks for itself. When you're the
guy at one position in one city for ten years,
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that's you tip your cap to him. So look forward
maybe getting to know him or introduce myself to him.
But yeah, I have nothing but good things in respect
to say about a guy like that. Lets you know
about drink Ny and you're yeah, I love Drake so far.
It's kind of a weird family connection. My brother in
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law's baseball player played with his brother Cole at Florida
and they're best friends. So I was going through the
free agency process. They were all like New England, New England,
New England. So it got to know him a little bit.
Played some competitive ping pong with him, so there will
be some There'll be some battles in the future. He
likes to golf, so we'll probably get on a golf
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course or in OTA's. But yeah, it's it's getting to
know the guys. It's building relationships, connections. Uh So I'm
looking forward to that the next couple of months.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
We talked to some guys about new traction and coachings.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
One games in the last two years. For you, what
was the thing that kind of you to this, Frank, Yeah,
you know, I think nothing in the past matters, right,
you live in the president in this league. No matter
what you've done, good or bad in the past matters.
It's what can you do for me now? What have
you done for me lately, and I think it's exciting
to come into a new place with a new staff
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as well. Right, it's I've had teammates that played for
coach for abel and have nothing but awesome things to
say about them. That's what my first signed here. Everyone
reached out like you're gonna love coach, and so it's
new for not just me. Right, it's not like this
staff and this system has been here for years. It's
all right, let's all work together. It's new for a
(02:36):
lot of people. Let's learn the system, learn each other
and work to win games. So that was attractive, right,
It's it's just it's new, and so it's like, all right,
let's all learn this together. From some of the defensive
players on Tuesday that they've already started some installed on
their concepts.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Are you doing that on the offensive side, and what
are your first impressions.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Of what coach? Yeah, so it's nice with a new
coach you start early, so we have two extra weeks
compared to most other teams. So a lot of it's
been culture so far. It's establishing a standard, an expectation,
and we can take it a little slower, so we're
not diving into the plays. We're talking terminology, verbiage. Like
(03:21):
I said, those expectations, and I think some of these
coaches it's a new system for them too, so they
had to learn it a few months ago, which is
good because they can be like, all right, we had
these questions, so like I want to install it this way,
so let's all look at it this way, and then
we'll just build from there. So yeah, it's we'll get
into the nitty gritty details of it later, but right now,
(03:43):
it's just trying to learn everything from the base up.
And so we got plenty of meeting time in the
next couple of months and looking forward to getting into it.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
When you talk about coaches establishing a culture and setting expectations,
what specifically does that sound like or look like when
you're are those two meetings.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
So a big thing that I was told coming in
was coach Frabele, We'll ask a bunch of questions in
team meetings, like you have to know your stuff, which
I love. I think that if you have to be
ready to answer any question, whether it's about rules, whether
it's about goals, whether it's about individual plays like coaching points.
(04:25):
I think everyone in that meeting room understands they have
to be on top of their stuff. And when you
do that, if you're the left tackle and you know
what the right guard is going to do, I think
you play faster. I think when you know the whole system,
when you know the whole big picture, and I even
know what the receivers have to do, or coach Frabel's
up there talking about the defense and what their angles
(04:46):
and what their thought process is. It's just you see
the big picture of the game. And I think the
faster you can play, the better you can play. And
so I think that will be good moving forward as
a collective locker room and team meeting room where every
everyone knows everyone's job and so you can kind of
exploit weaknesses and understand what they're trying to do too.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I know it's early, but have you guys talked it
all about how the communication at the line of scrimmage
is going to work?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
You know, is that going to be on Drake's plate?
On your play combination? I think it's a combination. I
think Drake will have a lot, but I think Drake's
ready for that. They wouldn't put a lot on his
plate if they didn't have belief in him, and I
think he's a really smart young player and it will
only help him grow. I think sometimes you can just
try and take a bunch off a quarterbacks plate and
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it's like, sure, let's make it simple for him. But
I think the more it's on his plate and the
more that he can understand, like I said, bigger picture,
he can understand what everyone's doing and get everyone in
the right place. So there'll be certain times where like
we all want to work together, right, but that's an
important position and you got to have that position figured
it out. And from everything I've heard, they do here,
(05:55):
so I'm excited to get to work with him. True,
and just that opportunity.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
What's the did you get an opportunity to see him
play at all last season, whether it's like watching the
film or anything, And what can you say about his
first year.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
In the NFL and just his play aside? Yeah, you know,
he went to Chapel Hill, so I saw him in
college a little bit. Went to our rival school, so
didn't like playing against him. But I was in the
NFC the past couple of years and I think we've
only only played the Patriots once, and so there's not
a ton of crossover film, so I think the only
things you really see are like the big highlight plays,
and I saw that last second touchdown at Tennessee and
(06:32):
just some little things here and there. But I don't
really know quarterback detail play, So I can't tell you
what kind of year he had, what kind of player
he is. All I can base it off of is
guys that have played with him, and I've heard nothing
but good things from the guy, from the player. So
that's what I'm looking forward to between the little Yeah, yeah,
he's he's a competitive guy, so I think he'll find
(06:53):
any kind of edge to.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Wear the other sweatshirts.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
That'll be easy, that'll be easy to do. I think
the wolf back I've had their number the last couple
of years, so I got the upperhand right now.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Hasn't been big teammates with stuff on Diggs and.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
That, Yeah, yeah, I was. I was fired up to
see him. I was a young guy and he was
obviously a superstar receiver, and so there were some things
that I could learn from him, and he wasn't big time, right.
You come to the NFL as a rookie and you're like,
you obviously know their names, and you don't know if
they're gonna care about you talk to you. But he
loved the old line and so had a good relationship
(07:27):
with him. Played against someone who's in Buffalo, played against
some wheys in Houston. So when I saw him for
the first time, I was pretty fired up to see him.
And as talent speaks for itself, so it's a it's
a good weapon to have prediction with him. You do
you have each other connections with his locker room head. Yeah,
you know there's five or six guys that had stops
in Minnesota. There's two in the line room, Tyreus Robinson,
Vedarian Lowe. I had Vadarian as a rookie and and
(07:49):
we kind of put him through the ringer as a rookie.
So to see him as like a vet left tackle
now is kind of a different I gotta adjust, but
it's good to see those faces. Tires. Tonga had him
for a few years. We had some battles. Jacquelin Roy
was in Minnesota, and then it's such a small league.
I have good friends and other teams, so it'll be like, hey,
Patriots just signed this guy. Patriots had this guy. You're
(08:09):
gonna love them so, like I said, that's that's what
these months are for. I think it's it's building camaraderie,
building connections, getting on the golf course, going bawling, going
to a movie, getting dinner. That stuff actually goes a
long way, because, as you guys know, it's a long season.
There's ups and downs, and like if you feel like
you're in it by yourself, it's gonna be even a
longer season. So I really feel like that's important. Look Dunborough, Yeah,
(08:38):
Doug's great. Doug actually my line coach in college who's
with the Falcons now. Doug actually coached him when he
was in New Orleans. So that's about the only connection
I have with him. I know he's been in this
league for a long time. I love former players as coaches,
so he played in this league for a while, he's
coaching this league forever, and so they just I don't know,
(09:01):
from my perspective, they have a different understanding the coach speak.
They can sometimes be like listen, I know I'm telling
you to do this, but you gotta get done this
way or this way or this way. And so he's
another guy that it's a newer system for him, so
he spent the last months learning a couple of months
learning it, and he's had a million systems so he
can kind of understand how he wants to install it
(09:21):
to us. He likes interactive meetings, which I love. So
there's quizes thrown out, there's hey, what do you got
in this? What do you got in this?
Speaker 5 (09:29):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (09:29):
And we have two assistants in the Neil line room,
which that's new to me, which is awesome because you
got three guys that will know the system like the
back of their hand that I can just have questions
anything I need to know, bounce ideas off there.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
How much.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Helpily are you with Mike and Whinnywin?
Speaker 4 (09:46):
How do you feel like you guys can talk them
on each other inside?
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, I've heard. I've heard really good things about Mike.
I'm excited. He's a big guard, he's a physical player.
So I'm definitely looking forward to hitting some combinations with
that guy.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
You're about in Minnesota.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Just putting a bow in your time here and.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Just sort of how it ended and if that brings
you here.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Would you like a feeling of a show that I
like that I'm still.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Like I should start Yeah, Yeah, absolutely, No, I had
six great years in Minnesota. It's it's a great locker room,
built some really good connections there and it ended right.
That's the business. Uh So it's like, all right, I
don't think you never want to feel comfortable, but that's
(10:35):
a wake up call. That's all right, here we go.
That's that's how they feel. They move on. There's no
ill will. I'm not bitter towards the Vikings. It's just
a new opportunity for me. I feel like when there's
a change, if you don't take the opportunity, you're not
going to grow from it. And so it's more about like,
all right, I get to reinvent myself. I get to
reprove myself. And the minute you think you have it
(10:58):
figured out, you're you're gone. And so all right, new team,
new chapter, new offense. What can I bring? And you
got to bring it every day. It's the biggest thing
I've learned that every single day you have to bring
in meeting room, practice, weight room. Uh So, I'm not
even a wake up call, but it's just it's just new.
It's exciting, it's a fresh start, new opportunity.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Anything about your first two days in New England, facility, teammates,
coaches driving around is.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Surprising, hasn't been allowed driving around. Kind of been here
in the hotel, got out and played a little golf yesterday.
The facility. What's kind of nice is it's all in
this little square right here Minnesota. You kind of had
a mile walk to cafeteria, the weight room, so it's nice.
You're kind of bumping elbows with everyone throughout the day,
which is good as a new guy, like, oh hey,
(11:48):
nice to meet you. Hey, what's up. But there's a
weight room, there's a locker room, there's a training room.
It's it's just another day at work. Honestly, it's amaze.
I'll say that I have no idea where I'm going.
Every every turn in every corner I make, I'm like,
all right, where's the locker room, where's the So that's
part of that new where you're just like it's first
(12:09):
day of school and you don't know anyone, you don't
know where to go. But it's kind of refreshing, it's
it's it's fun for a couple of days. But if
you ever watched any of Logan Makings film, he was, yeah,
I haven't seen the time of this film. But I
know the player, I know the name. There's been some
awesome line in here. Joe Toney comes to mind. Played
with him in NC State my first two years I
(12:31):
transitioned positions, came into the line. We were roommates when
we traveled. I can't think of a better teammate player.
Uh So I need to hit him up and pick
his brain on this city, in this town. Having been
you know, someone is to sing a New England now
and there's it's heard about him of having been in
the locker room with him.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
What's like something fans can expect from.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Him, both off in the locker room and on how
competitive he is? And and when you have these superstar receivers,
I mean justin Jefferson, Adam Thiel, and I've played with
some good ones. You want them to be like that, right.
You want them to have belief in their talent. You
want them to want the ball. And when he's rolling
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and he's hard to stop, and so it's how can
we all work together? We need to get him the
ball right? And I know the coaches are gonna do
a good job of that. But you want competitive teammates.
I see that in Drake. It digs. I saw that firsthand,
and so I love I love getting ahuddle with guys
like that, with all the crazy looks.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Oh, with all the crazy looks that defense has been
throw at you. When someone who's had success, you know,
getting through all those When do you feel like things
kind of slowed down for you?
Speaker 1 (13:41):
And what would you say helped you? Got to get
the gun? I think going against Brian Flora's defense the
last couple of years, that has slowed everything down. Nothing
is like that, but it's just more it's master of
your own system. So you need to understand that the
rules and the whys of what you're doing. And then
once whatever someone throws out there for you, okay, let's
(14:02):
just go back to my system. Go back to my rules.
And so being a new system, it's time to study.
It's time to get in the playbook and learn all that.
But repetition and experience, that's you gotta have that. We
we gotta get together. We got yet on the grass.
We gotta see looks. I gotta see how the right
guard communicates, how he wants me to communicate. It's all
(14:22):
stuff like that, and it takes time. Thankfully, we have time.
I'm looking forward to getting to it two hard, just
to finish off the number one playing against the bigger
defensive tables and sometimes.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Those guys there big.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
How does that challenge you? And what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Maybe here for that?
Speaker 4 (14:40):
And you mentioned I give Carson and Blake can be back?
Speaker 3 (14:45):
How are your here playing?
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Its like you're here and you're gonna travel.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Back ever your weekend. Yeah, we'll be bouncing back. Sometimes
I haven't quite figured the whole thing out. I try
and take things like one, one hour at a time,
but yeah, you gotta have a plan. I think a
big thing is not letting the name on the back
of the jersey beat you. You know, as an old lineman,
you can watch film and you can nine of the
(15:07):
time say I beat myself on that play. You know,
just because he's three hundred and seventy pounds, just because
he's a bigger dude, doesn't mean I need to change
up my set, change up my hands, change up my
attack plan. And so that's where the film study comes in.
It's like, all right, I beat myself on this play.
I put myself in a bad position because I felt
like I had to do something different. Obviously, the supplements
(15:29):
of the weight room and nutrition and all that stuff
play a part, but at the end of the day,
technique wins, and you just have to line up and
have confidence in your ability and execute what you want
to do. Yeah. Yeah, great, mean you guys.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
Doing a little bit. I can't give me no hard times.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
We're talking to some of the defensive guys.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Oh this week they.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Said that certain defensive installed is after the same pla
years on offense, and so I was like, going, uh,
probably a little bit slower.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Uh. We've been covering the basics so down to the
defensive fronts of formations and things like that. We haven't
got to the install just yet. But it's day three,
so we're getting there.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Though.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
How was that terminology shift for you personally and even
around the league?
Speaker 5 (16:23):
But it's a it's a whole authentory always different. Uh.
I feel like I I've been dealing all that since
I got in the league, but same stuff, always different terms.
So that's kind of what we're going over now with
the basis and everything, so we can all get on
the same page of terminology wise, cause it's all the
same thing. But each coach and each you know, staff
when they uh you know when it's a change. They
(16:44):
they come in with different terminology. So that's that's kind
of what we're getting at right now.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
How would you sum up your first year here? You know,
last year and as you look ahead already sort of bowling.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
That into your safe Uh not gonna sugarcoat Uh not
what uh what I wanted, but uh, you know it's
always room the bill, and that's the go. Uh. We
come in here in new year looking uh for the
positive and uh and that's what we're doing, Uh fresh start.
We're here a week early, so you know we want
week ahead of a lot of teams right now. So
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we're gonna start from there.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
And in Norway, when you say not shargar coll.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
I didn't feel we didn't we didn't win.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
So this is that's the go this year to win.
And uh that's just as simple as that.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Would have been. Your first impressions of Josh.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
Mctennas an exciting guy, uh, super energetic. I haven't seen
too much cause we kind of been split here and there.
But he came into the room, said a couple of
words popped back out real quick. But I got to
talk to him a little bit yesterday in the lunch
room and a super signed guy seems up. But you
know it's early right now, so I get to learn
(17:55):
more as we go on.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
How long do you say, mins, what do you been
your first impressions.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Of Tony Dudes?
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Real cool guy.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
Uh, but just just a simple fact, you know, reaching
out throughout the off season of checking up on me,
just just staying in contact, like I got married. You know,
he wanted to see pictures and things of that nature.
So that that right there went a long way for
me already. So I appreciate that. Like I said, this early,
so we're still getting to learn, but everything's been smoothing
to meeting rooms.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
He was also about first gratulation, thank you, but also
just what a lot of people talk about Mike Rabel's
energy and just where you see in terms of like how.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Peace is it you're getting to one over.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Uh, We're getting a little bit of it.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
You can you can kind of see like he kind
of holding back a little bit right now. It's the
first couple of days, but uh, we're getting a little
bit of it.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
He asked lots of lots of questions and just to
keep us on our toes. So that's a little bit different,
but you can see like he's super excited. I think
he You can hear stories from like the players, like
he popping in everybody room and uh, he can't sit
still for too long and he started started saying little
stuff in there, and so you know it'll be exciting year.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
So get adventure the questions too, and be can you
give us a thing exa able to get called on?
What are you ask if you're mirable evil?
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (19:12):
So say Monday he came in and he was like,
all right, goes for the this year was the winning
the Vision or winning super Bowl? Whatever you know, whatever
he says.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
And then come Thursday today.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
And he's like, all right, what's our goal like stuff
like that. So like make sure we're on our toes,
make sure we're actually paying attention to things of that nature.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Anyone get caught?
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Nah, a few, maybe a little slow to answer, nobody
got caught yet.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
I'm not sure how much you talked about Woltz or anything,
but last year where you can get to see use
your flexibility and alignment wise, do you feel like that's
some of your people to get back to this season?
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Oh, we shall see whatever whatever we can do to
whatever I can do to help the team win. So
whatever the coach is asking me right now, that's what
I'm doing. Is like I said, it's super early, so
I'm not I'm not even gonna push to even go
there yet. But uh, you know, whatever that is in
the future, I'm gonna do my best to so that
they can see that I can do that. I say that,
so I'm gonna do what I need to do right
(20:05):
now so you know they can see that I'm I'm
willing and I'm I'm able to do that.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
So here as a creator and you are you assuming
right after the drag you guys get in the mini
camp and he and training camp and you see Drink
as a repo. What's he like now?
Speaker 5 (20:21):
Is he's returning from his first A big difference uh
from seeing him you know, kind of sit back, kind
of watching things and learning to to come in there
just being vocal. Uh Like I said, we haven't done
too much so uh you know, but uh, he he
seems comfortable. Uh he's being himself, funny, goofy uh, smart
(20:41):
and being the leader and things of that nature. So
it's still early, but you know, I'm super excited to
see what he brings, you know, to the table this year,
what's being a TV or stuff like that. A new guy,
new teammate. Uh, I'm glad to have him a part
of our team.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
You know he he's well, you know, respected in the
league and so can't wait to see. Uh, can't wait
to see what he brings to that receiving group and
you know where he can teach it, you know, and
the things he kind of shows because you can kind
of tell the energy he brings. I know he went
to the text and you can kind of see how
they grew, was kind of tight when he went to
you know, other things you kind of see like he
always has a close bond with the receiver group. So
(21:21):
can't wait to see what he brings and teachers, you know,
and we could just build off of that. See an Tony, if.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
You talked about Drake seeing a big difference in him,
it's part that he not be even rookie either having
more confidence, more confidence being vocal or can you kind
of quantify that a little bit of.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
I don't think I said big difference, like I said
early right now, so like we haven't we haven't been
in the huddle, we haven't we haven't done any of
these things yet, so but like just just out of
the confidence I've seen that through last year, like him
getting his feet wet and getting us his starts and
then playing throughout this easy that just build confidence. And
then for him to go with that throughout the off season,
I'm pretty sure he's gonna come in way much better
(22:07):
than he did last year with the confidence level, the
communication and everything he needs to to do to to
be that quarterback, to be the leader of the team.
So you know, once that gets going, I'm I'm pretty
sure that's what he's gonna be a positive.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Right.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
We heard a little of the last year what you
guysknew going to punch for as you said, this season
go to what he was wanting? How do the season
really develops out and wants to punish that, you know,
even like Frable mention and a lot of him do
you use essentially.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
How going just starting early? Uh? And it and it's
it's with all the backs. So we feel like we
always carry a lot of good backs and uh, you know,
just the work that we put in to show the
coaches that any of us can at any time step
on that field and and get what we need to
get done for the team, and it starts now. That's
what we're here for. That's what we're working, uh towards,
(22:56):
and you know, just keep keep building from that weekend
and week out, and that's how we get to that
one two punch.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
You know, what are you hoping to?
Speaker 5 (23:03):
The show? And just the confidence the leadership. You know.
I feel like last year I kind of did did
what I needed to do, but I wasn't too much vocal.
So that's kind of one of the things I wanted
to do this year was come in do what I.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Need to do.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
So therefore I can feel comfortable to speak out when
I see something and and you know, and show the
guys you know, this is I'm doing this this way,
so like you know, maybe someone watching and come through,
and then I could also be vocal as well and
like all right, come on, like we need to pick
it up here, or we need to do this, you know,
keep it going, things like that. So my goal is
to be more vocal and be more of a leader
this year.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
You guys right now to expect the team to draft
the kid and run it back and bring.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
In your room and hurt any of that that's above
my pay grade. I don't know nothing about what they
do up there. When it comes to the draft. The
first few days have been about culture building and how
important to that for you guys. Almost every day that's
that's usually how it goes, especially with a new staff.
So so them telling us the message, and it's a
two way thing. They trust us, we trust them, and uh,
(24:05):
you know, we just got to buy into it. So
it goes from team to special teams to your individual
groups and they all kind of got different, but it
always it's always similar, So uh, just keep you probably
hear that for the whole first week, probably hear the
next week and then to kind of start to pay
but at the same time you still bring it up
like hey, what's our goal, like what we need to
do and things like that.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Patriots had shamed allowances finalists.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
It's Edelman, Adam Minitary and Logan Macans just wondering if
you see those guys watching on.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
TV back in the day and anything like that.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
Military nakings element is probably the only one I know
not to like to disrespect anybody. You know, you played
major part of it in that in that franchise, especially
when they were winning and uh, you know, winning Super
Bowls and things of that nature. And I think he
had a crazy catch to when I was a Falcons fan.
Uh and that kind of that kind of hurt my heart.
(24:58):
So it's a bitter sweet, but you know, much respect
for him. Of course, we had no choice but to
watch him because of the things they were doing.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
What you think, you have to take
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