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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Are we doing how we're doing? Yeah? Good, good, good
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doing good? And I see you guys, I see you
for sure.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Did you ever maybe start with the mike and the
players we're talking about the complimentary part of all three
units as sequence where you guys score a touchdown on.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
The stuff, but the drive and the attackle like Christians,
and then the defense makes him play. How important is
that as far as what you're preaching to these guys,
for making sure that everybody contributes to each of.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
The pre defense that's the biggest thing for us, like
how we set the table for our offensive defense, you know,
and winning the Philips's battle crazy. Positive momentum can't create
negative momentum, and a lot of times sometimes our offense
and defends I can dig us out of those situations
if we've ever done that. But that to me is
everything about special teams. Like those guys all played like
Els plays defense. He was on the field the next play, right,
Doug or those guys. So it's it's really important that
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we stressed that and we continue to really see how
important those plays are for us as we continue to
progressive this season.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
What jumps out to you about the Clans.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Special teams, much like their defense, are very aggressive and
like they got big bodies, they draft a certain type
of body and a certain type of athletic framework. And
I think, you know, Intron's done a phenomenal job there
as he's always done throughout his throughout his career even
as a player. Very aggressive mindset, they jump off the ball,
they do what they do, and they do it really well,
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and they put guys in the right place to kind
of expose your weaknesses. He's done a real good job
throughout that you're doing that.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
We've seen a couple of faults starts on Julian and
what's going on. It's hard for me sometimes to see my.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yeah, watching it over a couple operational things that we
just need to clean up. And that's it always starts
with how am I approaching the week with those guys
and I need to get you know, our PP and
our snapper on the same page, and sometimes they're off
the not on the same page. Things like that happen,
So we just got to continue to clean that up
so it doesn't hurt you, hurt you, you know throughout
the year, and penalties are never good, right you go
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back now that the next pressure on the next play,
you almost give them a block. So it's just stuff
like that. It's critical mistakes, man. We got to make
sure that we limit those, because again, if we're trying
to help our defense out, you know, how are we
do and that as a punt to unit, penalties don't
help you, and then a short field and things like
that don't help you as well.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Kay look On was named AFC Defensive Player of the Week,
but when we asked Mike about him.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Yesterday, he also highlighted his contribution to the special teams.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I'm just curious what you've seen from him and just
how he said.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
I mean, ever since the guy in here O Thas,
he's been all in on special teams. I mean, if
he wasn't such a damn good player on defense, he'd
be a four core guy for me. On special teams.
He doesn't, you know, he doesn't bat and eye. He's
he's in every meeting. He does everything he's supposed to do,
and he does it with a smile on his face,
and he's trying to get better on the units that
he's on. And I can't ask for any more than
that for a guy that has such a heavy rowing
defense to help us out in what we're doing right
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now on special teams.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Regarding the four four, we see the T shirt sometimes
patches the guy who's got lost in in their lodgers.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Can you talk about what that means, that kind of
that pride that they've taken.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
In that bugo that you guys have as the four
to fourth. Yeah, I think a lot of that stems
from the past and those guys, you know, the vets,
passing on to the younger guys, and it's been the
thing they've been doing for a while here. So I
think just you know, you have that shirt or have
that badge, it's just something you wear with honor and
you go out and you know how important is and
it takes us as coaches and those players believe in that.
You know, every play matters. You know, every play that
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we get on the field, that fourth play, that fourth
down play, or whether it's a change the possession. It's
it's really really important and it comes up in games
as you guys see all these close games around the
NFL right now, I mean it's they're coming down to
field goals, they're coming down to punts, they're coming down
to a third quarter of mistake. And I truly think
this is a huge year and people are really trying
to notice that and it's important that we go out
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there and do our job, and I think those guys
understand that.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
So we see Kyle Williams sometimes working with a group
of defenders, I'm curious what exactly is his role in
that group and why is he defended.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Oh he's a good athlete now, so just put Kyle
on places where he can run and do certain things
like that. You always want to continue to develop him
in those roles because again, when you got a forty
eight men roster, you know certain guys go down in
a game you got you got to make sure that
he's ready to play in one of those spots as well.
So just using his skill set in different areas where
you know he can run and do some things like that,
I think you have to utilize that and develop him
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so when we get into trouble as season progresses, and
maybe he can step in and do some good things
for us there.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
So your knowledge, does he have any tackling experience.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
In this group? No, he doesn't, Now he doesn't. I know,
you just got to go out there and develop it.
Rock and roll forty eight players. Man, let's go.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Along those lines.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Is it hard to teach that special teams? Are some
guys born for your your special teams? As soon as
you see them, you say, yeah, that's the guy I
want it all for.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, I think some guys have it, I think, but
you can always develop it. I've seen a lot of
guys throughout my years get developed into good special teams players.
And I think a last stems from what you're doing
in OTAs the training camp and how the culture set here,
with how we do certain things like open field tackle
and working on the fundamentals consistently because Rabel, I think,
and when you do that, over time, those guys develop
even if they have no experience, and they're able to
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go out there and showcase their skills and look like
a defender or look like a good offensive player blocking Jarmed.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Mike Smatt open about his use of analytics the things
he values as a coach.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I'm curious of all the numbers that you have on
special teams, what's important you When do you look at it?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
And breaking down at a moment, man, I really look
at you know first and foremost you know how aggressive
and physical they are on tape. That's like nonder one thing.
And then from an analytical side, it always comes down to, like,
you know, are they productive from a sense of their
their net punt is it productive? Where their opponent's drive
start is, the opponent return average is really important things
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like that to show me that they're covering consistently really well.
Net punt says they're covering really well, and they're putting
the ball very well. You know how many blocks they
have or don't have. Those certain things like that. I
think always kind of tell it tell as you look
at it. But really for me on special teams, analytics
do matter. But at the same time, you just put
on the tape and you can really see how good
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a unit is, but how hard they play pretty consistently
inside out, and then you know how the especialist coordinad
matches up personnel and things like that.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
You're speaking about what the truying type of the rescus.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
One of those whole coaches Settle time.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
He's a positive influencer.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
You're a guy up on positivity and energy. Do you
know him well?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
And I guess you know, like last week with John
Bowes Fossil, you talk about your respect for him.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Is there for you a special love and respect for
the guys that do canday that kind of positive the gag.
I think at the end of the day, guys that
have been in this league played in this league like
he did, who came up from an undrafted free agent
and made his way and made a living that way.
And then a guy that came in has been a
coordinator and been successful consistently year in the year out.
That's the respect. I don't know. I don't know him
at all, but I just I have respect for guys
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that are consistent over time because I know how hard
that is just being in it right now. How hard
is me consistent week in week out to do that
for a number of years, and then also playing this league.
I just think that level of respect goes up.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
How significant is the learning curve for a player like
Keler where ifew just comes in but who played a
lot of special teams snaps.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
For the Chargers.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Yeah, Like, is there a lot of carryover or does
it really sort of depend on what the team they're
coming from.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
I think it depends on the team they're coming from.
But I think Ficken's done a great job they're with
the charger, so he can he's come over here, and
you know he also with Tennessee was very able before that, right,
So some of the carry over there and how the
terminology and how they practice. But in the NFL, you know,
it's I'm still getting used to it, and you come
from college. It's like guys just jump right in and
you got to work with them and see if they
can do and maybe they're up, maybe they're not, but
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just got to roll with it, man, and hopefully the
guys had a good foundation with them and then we
can just teach it on the fly and meet with
the meshra and by you know, game day, if they're ready,
they're ready, they're not, then they're not up.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
So do you teach spin moves on kick coverage or
is it the kind of thing where you're just telling people, hey,
win however you can and get.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
To the returner.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I don't teach spin moves, but you see it sometimes happen.
Guys are you know, out levers, and they just kind
of ice pick it and spin back and make plays.
So I don't really teach it. You know, the old
kickoff I did, it's called ice pick. But in this
new one. I really haven't talked much about it, but
I have seen it happen a couple of times so far.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Between last Sunday's game and yesterday's practice. The wind we're
starting to see, yeah, show up or what you know?
Special teams coordinator, what are your thoughts on sort of
how this is becoming more nut? I guess the factor
as we.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah, that's what I mean to play up in the Northeast.
As I'm starting to learn, you just gotta you gotta
be able to adjust day by day, and you got
to be able to play in the elements. Man, Like
you got to be able to go out there and say,
all right, we were gonna do this, but now we
got to do this because of the weather. And that
was a clear example in Tennessee because the wind was
howl in that area and like it was yesterday here
and like it is today. So sometimes I just throw
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my script away and say, whatever I did, I spend
all that time for nothing. We're gonna do today, all right,
whatever now? But seriously, like, you just gotta be able
to adjust. Your guys got to understand that, uh, every
day is gonna be different out here with the wind
and how it goes, and our specials gotta be ready
for that, and our returners gotta be ready for that.
And we got to be able to prepare that way
and adjust that way. And Haber professionals, you know, we
get paid to do a job, so we gotta go
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to the next.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Cup of Shelby Harris is a guy who blocked kicking.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Early in the season for Cleveland.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
You got a play defensive line gets his hands.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
On a lot of rolls. I guess obviously maybe length
is a faster but what what what is the.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Key for the guy like you know, coming off the ball, dog, Yeah,
coming off the ball, like with those guys inside on
the field goal block man, you come off the ball
and you're driving and you're using one hand and get up,
get to the block point. If you get good penetration
on those double teams. It's hard, man, it's hard for
those guards. Man. You're taking on seven hundred pounds right there.
You're taking it. Putt your foot in the ground as
fast as you can. It's hard. So guys that do
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a good job jumping off the ball, driving their feet
and their hand up sometimes they get they get they
get the opportunity to block one because of that. So
it's all to me. It's all effort, and I have
to ask some technique stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
One more out of question just so we don't end
up leave with the question on the table. Yeah, you
getting more out of Ghilani in terms of units?
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Yes, year.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Maybe John has done a great job right now. Man,
he's coming in. We're getting him in roles that where
he excels at. And I love Jelani. Man, I've always
loved Johns. I've been here. He's a good specialis player.
He's a good defender as well, and I hope you
can continue to do good things for us on defense
and then help us out on special teams. And if
we do that, I'll be really happy because he does
a lot for me and he helps out a lot.
All Right, thanks guys having on