Todd Downing, Ashton Grant, Tony Dews, and Doug Marrone | Defensive Coaches Media Availability 10/16
October 16, 2025 • 24 mins
Patriots coaches Todd Downing, Ashton Grant, Tony Dews, and Doug Marrone address the media on Thursday, October 16, 2025.
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DOWNING / 00:00-06:11
GRANT / 06:11-13:25
DEWS / 13:25-15:52
MARRONE / 15:52-24:35
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Just your thoughts on that and what it's going to
like to work with them.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Well, it's an honor to coach all those guys, and
Steph is apro who approaches this game with a competitive
spirit and a vigor that you know it's contagious, and
so I just hope I can be of service to
those guys and help them become the players they.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Want to be.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
On the final catch of the game, Kashan Booty, I
think you go about fifteen twenty yards to get to them,
and it's not the first time we see you kind
of animated on the sideline.
Speaker 5 (00:25):
What do those moments meant to you?
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Why is it important to you to be there, you know,
celebrating with the players.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Sure when like fifty I fla. You know, this business
can create a lot of highs and lows for a coach,
and I certainly have had, you know, some times that
haven't been as fun and easy, and so you'll have
to forgive me of sometimes my joy and appreciation for
what I get to do. And to see a guy
(00:52):
like Kayshawn who's worked so hard and put in so
much work to have a moment like that in his
home state, I couldn't help myself.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
We've always seen the production on the field from cash
On this year, but how have.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
You seen him grow off the field?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I think just his approach becoming a pro And I
know that that word gets thrown around a lot.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
You know, like, oh, you know, we got to be
more of a probe.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
What he truly is becoming a professional football player where
he approaches it like he's got to be intentional with
his time and how he distributes his resources. And I
think that he's seeing the benefits of things like taking
care of his body, getting the extra treatment, the recovery,
you know, picking some of the veterans' brains, having more
conversations with Drake. You know, it's been impressive to watch
(01:36):
and I think that it's showing up and you know,
sometimes it takes a little patience for things to pop
through from a production standpoint, but it doesn't mean that.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
The approach hasn't been right. What is the message to
the rookies?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
You know, you've seen, you know, the guys the veterans
come through, but the rising rookies like Kyle and Fton,
what are you saying to them on a weekly basis?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, I've had a couple of conversations with them that
you know, those vets have been great examples to him.
Pop Douglas went through a little stretch where he didn't
have a lot of production and then, you know, save
it a ticke attack penalty, he would have had one
hundred and thirty yard game with two touchdowns. You know,
Kishan Budi had a couple of games where the production
wasn't there, but he kept at it, and he kept
at it and it paid off. And so for those
(02:15):
those young guys, I say the same thing. Keep working
at your craft, keep believing that every time you're running
a route, the ball is going to be in the
air when you turn your eyes around. And I think
both those guys have embraced that, and I think that
it's been fun to watch some kind of gravitate towards
you know, different.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Vets of their own lucking.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
But it's you know, it's a good group and I'm
fortunate to be working with those young guys too.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
What will your emotions be like walking into the Nissan
Stadium Sunday.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
You know, I'm a couple of years removed from from
being there, so you know, it's it's another opportunity for
me to walk into a stadium with a group of
receivers I'm really proud to be working with.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
We're just seeing it from Kashawan in terms of physicality
and making those contested catches.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, he has great play strength and we saw that
in training camp and even in OTAs before we got
pads on. You know, you see him playing sturdy through
contact and being able to track the ball while he's
got a defender in close proximity. So I think he's
done a nice job of that for a while and
being able to catch the ball away from his body
and you know, make sure that he's not giving DB's
a chance to punch through the pocket, quick to the tuck,
(03:16):
things like that. He's he's been growing in that and
he's been doing a nice job.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Josha talked this morning about in the receiver room, it's
a lot of guys that are, you know, coming in early,
maybe looking for extra work, extra cutups, things like that.
How quickly do you feel like that tone set in
and what went into setting that tone in the rum or?
Was it just a more natural guys came in and
that's how they work from day one.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I think it kind of was, Hey, I'm going to
make resources available to you guys, and I'm available to
you guys, and then I kind of leave it in
their court to.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Either take advantage or not.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
And they have.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
You know, ften Chisholm's in here.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
At six am every single morning and I'm sitting there
with a cup of coffee waiting on him. Maybe he's
not there at six I'm worried about it, you know.
But you know, guys, everyone of them, I mean, every
guy comes in my office four meetings, stops in, gets
a couple of nuggets about the game plan.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
They all worked very, very hard.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
And the key is going to be staying you know,
staying hungry, staying committed to the process. When it you know,
gets later in the season and guys are feeling sore,
they're feeling more tired, and weather changes and all that.
Can they stay consistent? Can they stay hungry? And you know,
I believe they will, and I'll be here to serve them.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
How nice is it to see Pop get going get
a couple explosive plays?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah, another moment that brought me joy. You know, I
was running on that one on the sideline too. You know,
that's that's a play that we practiced with.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Pop hoping that we get the look. We got the look,
and he he ran it perfectly. And you know.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
He's he's had some routes that he's done a really
nice job and been open on the ball just went
somewhere else, and this is one there.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
It went to him, and you know he deserves the
production for the work he's.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Been putting in.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
We saw on Monday after all the running he did.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah, I've got some good stretching it.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I got a nice walking pregame to get loosened up
a little bit, but yeah, I was a little bit.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Sore, I'll be honest.
Speaker 7 (05:00):
So you've mentioned how that group has been really good
at being patient, reading their turns in different guys. You've
been around a lot of different teams with different groups.
Is that rare, especially at that position?
Speaker 3 (05:11):
You know there is something special about it. I'll say that.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
You know, I've certainly been a part of some rooms
that guys were a little bit more interested in looking
out for number one first and then if they were okay,
celebrating everybody else.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
This group is not that way.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
One of my favorite plays of the game, the passer
interference that we threw the go ball to Kyle Williams.
If you watch that sidelin tape, I wasn't running on
that one, but Kayshawan Boody was. And Kayshawn could have
been mad that he wasn't in there for the go
ball or didn't have a chance to run a deep route,
but he was running down the sideline celebrating for Kyle,
thinking that he was going to go score a touchdown.
(05:48):
That's the kind of culture that I'm proud of in
the room, is that they are truly cheering each other on.
And I think that if you start with gratitude and
you start with celebrating each other, it's really hard for
that third and most of selfishness to come in, you know.
And and that's that's a pretty cool thing. And hopefully
we can continue that as we get going into the
dog days of the season.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Here.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Great, thanks guys.
Speaker 8 (06:12):
That's happened.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
You masked men the Mass. How you gotta doing this here?
Speaker 9 (06:17):
They never be Oh my brother went the worse.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Sterek one of the worst. But you got AMers Emerson volleyball.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Baby.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
You Mass just lost like forty to three to Cap States.
Oh that's golden flass. That's where they're at right. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (06:36):
Uh, Mike really was talking a little bit this week
about how you and Josh have different kind of you said.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Purposes okay with Drake, Yeah, so what what would you say,
like your role is in the development with me and
Mike kind of know you and you and Rginia?
Speaker 10 (06:50):
Sorry, oh so how would you just god your purpose rules?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (06:54):
I think me and me and Josh do a bit
job working together, you know, kind of stend a plan
for what, you know, the plane with the quarterback and
how he fits into the offense. I think Josh does
a good job with the global picture and the big
picture of how the offense should come together, and then
me and him do a good job talking and how
he sees a quarterback playing into that, and you know,
I just try to take Josh's lead and you know,
(07:15):
explaining the quarterback how Josh n visits the play coming
to life.
Speaker 11 (07:19):
Have you seen increased comforting Drake May It's in like
the past two weeks he's really been kind of webbing
fly thut.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (07:24):
I think you know we said back in spring and
training camp, like the more reps you get in the system,
the more turns you get at the plate, so to speak,
the more comfortable you are doing something. So I just
think as the weeks go on, you're getting a little
bit more comfortable when you have an offense that has
consistent rules, so it's not necessarily changing on him every
single week.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I think that just gives him confidence to go out
there and do his job.
Speaker 8 (07:45):
Has he advanced or excelled any quicker than perhaps you
had put on the calendar.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
I wouldn't say that.
Speaker 9 (07:56):
I think we set lofty goals for him as a
quarterback when we got in the offseason. I think he
jumped at the bit to do that. I think, you know,
we try to shoot for the moon and land on
the stars, so to speak. So we try to set
those goals high for him, and he's a hungry kid.
He didn't want to, you know, have a governor on him,
so we try to give him the whole bowload and
see if he can reach those things.
Speaker 8 (08:15):
Is he at the moon or at the stars.
Speaker 9 (08:18):
I think we're working every day to keep getting better.
I think we'll measure how, you know, this season was
at the end of the season. I don't want to,
you know, take it a week at a time. We're
only in week seven, but like how he's progressing so far.
Speaker 10 (08:31):
We see those do a lot of like ball security
drills to start practice sale hocket, How have you seen
that with Drake translate to get a lot.
Speaker 9 (08:37):
I mean, I think the first big one where it
was like the aha moment was down in Miami when
we hit the big one in Reminder where.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
He stepped up in the pocket.
Speaker 9 (08:45):
But I think it shows up multiple times every single week,
and you know, we pointed out every time to let
him know that, hey, we're doing these drills for a
reason and it's cool to.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
See them come to life once Sunday.
Speaker 10 (08:54):
Was that an area when you first got here, like
he wanted to get better with him?
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
I think that was one of the things.
Speaker 9 (08:59):
You know, as a staff we talked about just kind
of tweaking and improving a little bit with just his
blall security, his pocket maneuvering. And I think he's done
a good job owning that and you know, taking practice
of the.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Game field go ahead. What are some things that he
brings naturally when it comes to his pocket presence. I
just think he has a great feel.
Speaker 9 (09:16):
I think about the one clip that he kind of
hit the floater to a trayon and he felt. I
think it was Cam Jordan climbing around his back up
in the pocket. He stepped up with two hands, he
ripped it forward and instead of bringing it back into
his throw motion, he flipped it.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Out of there.
Speaker 9 (09:31):
And somebody asked me, as a quarterback, coaches that like
make you cringe a little bit. And if he were
to stay in his throwing base and just flip his
hips and throw it, I don't think anyone would have,
you know, been afraid that he got the ball to
the checkdown. Is just how he got it to the checkdown.
Everyone was kind of like, oh my goodness. But I
think that just goes to show his feeling the pocket.
He has a good sense of what's going on around him,
(09:52):
so that was pretty neat.
Speaker 10 (09:53):
It seems like a lot of the downfield throws he's made,
he is moving around and able to keep his eyes
down the field.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah, Is that an area that you've seen him improving
as well? I think so.
Speaker 9 (10:01):
I think you know, there's two plays that defenses had
to defend. It's the structured play that you know, us
his coaches try to design, and then if that play
doesn't end up working itself out, it's the play when
things break down, the out of structure plays, I think
that's one in Drake Straws, who is just keeping his
eyes down field, keeping the play alive.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
And I think he's done.
Speaker 9 (10:19):
A better job of that, just keeping his eyes down
the field to try to get those explosives.
Speaker 8 (10:23):
He wasn't in the pocket when he was headed toward
out of bounds, was about to be tackled, flipped to
his left hand, and yeah, where do you see.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
That or what does that category?
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Does that one fall under?
Speaker 9 (10:38):
That goes in the category of Drake making a good
situational play and understanding the rules once you leave the pocket,
as long as the ball gets back to the line
of scrimmage, it's not you want to get calls for
intentional grounding. And we try to avoid as many sacks
as we can so if nothing's opening, we can get
out and get the ball out of.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Our hands safely into a safe area, no matter which hand.
Speaker 9 (10:58):
I think he's done that before. I so I've seen
that on this college shape. I saw that on this
tape last year.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (11:03):
So I just think it's a smart play in terms
of making sure the offense doesn't go backwards because we
know the value of a negative play, and that's something
that we preach to them a lot, just making sure
that worst case scenario, the D and D is the
same it was, or the distance was the same it
was the previous sport.
Speaker 11 (11:21):
Much consistency in the offense. It seems like you guys
aren't afraid to call some of the same plays within
the game. What's your philosophy when it comes to that,
and how valuable is that for the quarterback to be
able to work the same concepts and plays with that game.
Speaker 9 (11:31):
I just think it's pretty neat because if you think
of the probabilities of us calling the same play and
the defense calling the same exact defense, the chances are pretty.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
You know low.
Speaker 9 (11:39):
So as for a quarterback, you know, one time you're
running the play, it might be versus this coveras the
next time is versus another cover. So one play this
guy gets the ball, the next time someone else gets
the ball. So it's it's been pretty cool because we
try to dress it up different ways, so it looks
different to the to the defense, but it's the same
for the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
So again more swings at the play of doing the.
Speaker 9 (11:57):
Same thing, though over and over again, you talked a
little bit about ball security drills of you.
Speaker 10 (12:01):
Know, him being in the pocket and which like fumble.
But how has he improved in avoiding interceptions over the
last few weeks.
Speaker 9 (12:10):
I just think it's the work that he puts in
throughout the week, just what the coverages, the defenses are playing,
and what to expect.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
He does a great job.
Speaker 9 (12:18):
I really think he's in there right now with the
entire offense watching practice as we are watching it as
a coaching staff, and getting everybody else on the same page.
So I think he does a good job studying and
getting guys on the same page and then confirming what
he sees post snap.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I think he does a good job.
Speaker 11 (12:31):
You work with one of the best in the league,
Kevin Sefanski when it comes to play sequence agains, setting
things up.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
How does Josh mccangels maybe set himself.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Apart in that area and set defensive up for certain things.
I think Josh is a very bright offensive coordinator.
Speaker 9 (12:44):
I think he takes almost everything into account when he
calls plays, not only a quarterback, but the offensive line,
the receivers. How can he switch up the launch point
for those guys so you know the defenders can't tee
off on the pass rush, And I just think he's
thinking about a ton of different things at sometime to
go over the coaches heads. It's pretty interesting seeing his
calls you once the game is over and all the
(13:05):
different sequence things that he thought about going to. But
a stone doesn't go and turn with that guy, He's
thought about a lot of different scenarios.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
And I'm learning a ton from him just being around him.
Speaker 12 (13:14):
Ask you more questions what I like, appreciate, playing against,
and so he's he is, uh, progressing, well, he's moving
right along.
Speaker 13 (13:31):
He's you know, sometimes when I talk to Josh and
just ask about the guys are here in the past,
and sounds like from Josh, and he's very he's very
much on par with what you know, kind of some
of the other guys that played early as rookies. Is
he feels like he's in that same world when as
where they were, when they where they were at this
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point in their rookie seasons. So he's continued to get better.
I mean, I'm in you know, So we'll we'll keep
working him and he'll keep progressing and we'll keep rolling.
Speaker 14 (14:05):
Yeah, I'm sorry if people asked us what I was
gonna say, I was gonna kind of piggyback off that.
And one of the things that a lot of people
kind of come up with is that the James White comparison,
it's a lot to put on him. But James White,
I think, only played two or three games his rookie year.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
And I'm not.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
Saying that Trevion is gonna follow that, say Mark, but
there are guys here in New England, specifically running back
to Shane Green is another one where it was like
it takes some time. It's just you know, the good
in the summer, as you mentioned, but it just takes
some time for them to get there.
Speaker 15 (14:31):
Right.
Speaker 13 (14:32):
I'm not gonna make any comparisons because it's unfair to
the kids. And obviously I didn't coach those other guys,
and they had they were really good players here for
a long time. So I don't want to put that
expectation on anybody. But I had an opportunity to, you know,
throughout these these seventy years of minor coach and rookies,
and he is progressed as well or better than any
(14:56):
of the other rookies I've coached throughout you know, it's
a long season, a lot of things happening, and he
and he's it's important to him. He works at it,
and he is progressing, he is getting better, and it'll come,
you know, like we all want the explosive plays, the
big plays, and you don't chase him. You let you
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let him come to you. And I think when people
start chasing those things, you start getting out of character,
and then you start doing things outside of the offense,
and then then it causes problem. So I think he's
taking a strate.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
He's playing within the offense.
Speaker 13 (15:31):
He's doing what we ask him to do, and as
long as he does that, in my opinion, the other
stuff will come as we continue to play. I mean,
we're six weeks in. Uh we still got a lot
of football left to play. So I'm excited to see
how it continues to progress and what it looks like
at the end of season.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Thank you guys, you're ready for Connecticut this week.
Speaker 15 (16:01):
I guess I'll start with the somewhat easy one. Just
hows how do you think Will has come along here?
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Thing?
Speaker 5 (16:06):
He's only given us like one sex.
Speaker 16 (16:08):
And sweek one, So I just want to get your
I keep going back to pretty much my standard thing
like you know, I think each week, especially for a
young player, there's different challenges.
Speaker 17 (16:20):
You know, there's so many different types of players and
a lot of good players that he's going against. So
you know, we just try to get a good plan
for him every week, you know, talk about the details,
you know, the techniques and the fundamentals, and keep working
it and and and just trying to take you know,
attack each day.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
And and and keep going forward. You know, you look.
Speaker 17 (16:41):
At a game or you look at a practice and
you say, hey, this is what we can do better,
you know, and the next day you work on those things.
And I think that's just the normal process as you
go through it. But you know, so uh, it's it's
been you know, he's been good. I mean, he's he's
he's locked into that.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 15 (17:00):
And I just you know, I was asking Josh earlier
about all the different pass protection calls that you guys
seem to have on a given week. How good is
Josh ad you know, building in different change ups into
your past protection s.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
It's not the same thing I think he's out saying.
Speaker 17 (17:16):
I mean, I mean, he's he's done it, you know,
for a long period of time.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
I think that you know, I know, for you know.
Speaker 17 (17:24):
An offensive line or an offensive line coach, you know,
someone that really understands.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
The issues that are out there.
Speaker 17 (17:33):
I think that Josh has been one of the best
I've ever been around as far as being able to
do that stuff. So believe me, you know, I've been
in some situations where it's not like that and it
is hard, and to have someone that understands that it
is great.
Speaker 15 (17:49):
Yeah, it just seems like you know, another watching another
tape around the league, I'll drop back pass like forty
times and just needed offensive line out there and just kind.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
Of yeah, yeah, I can't speak quin.
Speaker 15 (18:01):
I'm just saying, like, you know, it seems like he
does a really nice job, a.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Great They does a great job.
Speaker 17 (18:06):
I really do, really do, And we've got to continue
to keep getting better and better in.
Speaker 18 (18:11):
The communication with Drake Man and the offensive line. How
do you think that's go going to sort of overall?
Speaker 5 (18:17):
I think it was a great It's something that we
started from the beginning.
Speaker 17 (18:20):
I think that obviously, you know, when you play the
center position, you know, with Garrett, you know, playing the
center and Drake, I think that communication is where it starts,
you know, and then it gets you know, communicated.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
Throughout the line.
Speaker 17 (18:31):
I think that you know, it's something that that's that's
that's been working well, and it's something that you know,
we continue to put an emphasis on, you know, because
it's very easy to communicate, you know, and in the
classroom or you know, in the field, and then you
get into somebody these environments and the you know, the
hostile environments, and that communication becomes very key, you know,
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to having any type of success.
Speaker 18 (18:55):
Speak speaking all of that three trade road games, how
much do you guys work on the sunity insid and
all that is that sort of overplay a little bit?
Speaker 17 (19:03):
And I mean it's like I said before, I think
I got this question asked the other time. I think,
you know, it's not something that you just all of
a sudden started working on when you're going there.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
It started we started working on it.
Speaker 17 (19:13):
Back when we first got together, and you know, and
I think it's important because it's really you know, especially
on a silences, the group that's in there, the timing
that they have, how they feel comfortable with it, you know,
all the different types of silent you know that you
may have in a game plan, and something that we've
worked on, I think, you know, something that I feel
like we've gotten a little bit better at and we
(19:33):
can continue to get better.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
As we go along. So we never want to take
it for granted.
Speaker 17 (19:39):
So it's something that you know, we we we do
a lot, and you know, coause we're able to you know,
does a good job. We we get a good, good,
good dose of it in a in a hostile situation.
Speaker 15 (19:48):
You know, however, we create that When you look at
the run game tape, just what are you seeing with it?
Speaker 5 (19:54):
And how close do you feel like you guys are well?
Speaker 17 (19:57):
You know, I think that you know, we obviously we
we we have to get better. I think when when
that happens, and I think there's a lot of things
involved me myself personally, I look.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
At it, Hey what can I do a better job of? Hey?
Can I can I detail this up?
Speaker 9 (20:11):
You know?
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Can I you know, you know, get maybe.
Speaker 17 (20:13):
Work a little bit more on the proper technique for it,
you know, and the fundamentals that we need to use.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
So, you know, I take a good look at myself.
Speaker 17 (20:20):
First when things aren't going well in any part of
what we're trying to do, and I say, hey, listen,
how can I contribute to that, and that's what we've
been focusing on. You know, I'm saying, obviously there's a
lot of different things in a game that you have
to do. The run game is a big part of it,
and it's something that you know, I know I can
do a better job of that.
Speaker 19 (20:37):
I asked Josh earlier today about your use of motion,
which has been super effective when you choose to use it,
and I know there are certain things that you're looking
for what it's used, which isn't all the time. What's
your role been in the game planning process when you're
deciding when to use motion.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
And to give a week.
Speaker 17 (20:50):
Well, I think I think we're all involved, you know.
I think that that's the process. I think we have
a lot of good coaches on our side of the ball.
I think that Josh does a great job of taking
ideas and you know, seeing it all fits together, and
he's the one, you know, basically at the end of
the day.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
That puts it all together for us.
Speaker 17 (21:04):
So I think, you know, we have a lot of
good ideas, a lot of good thoughts, and then whatever
which ones that we make a decision to go with,
that's what we go with.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
And then we try to make it work for us.
Speaker 19 (21:12):
You're across paths with Mike McCoy, yes, yeah. Do you
have any insights working with him or friend?
Speaker 17 (21:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (21:19):
Yeah, I mean I know, Mike, any insights this week?
You know, we got to I don't have. I really don't.
Speaker 17 (21:25):
You know, it's a it's always a tough situation when
these things go on. And you know, like I said,
I have a friendship with Mike. We've known each other
for a long period of time. I think when you're
in this league long enough, you get to know a
lot of people. But I got a ton of respect
from Mike, and.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
I really that's it.
Speaker 15 (21:44):
Just looking at the round him again, it seems like
you guys have been able to generate a decent amount
of push sometimes but maybe up to the second level
of third level as you've necessarily been there. Just how
do you get you know, blockers up further down the fields.
You can spread your nose around a little bit for it.
I just think that those are some of the things
that we're working on, you know what I'm.
Speaker 17 (22:03):
Saying, and trying to, you know, get some drills that
you can do individually and and so we can get
a better a better feel for that, you know as
we work through it. So you know we've worked a
little bit on it obviously, you know, put some emphasis
on it. We detailed it up, and you know it's
you can say all you want, you can work on it.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
I've been this league.
Speaker 17 (22:23):
You know, you just have to get out there and
be able to do it when it counts. That's what
people are looking at. But you know we're working hard
to try to get everything you know, done with the
details and fundamentals so we can be in a better position.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
Yeah, well that's one for me.
Speaker 15 (22:37):
Just that Jared, ask the same question to ask you
about Will, just how you've seen him progress here.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 17 (22:42):
I mean again, you know, when when you're a young player,
you know, and you're playing, I think I think every
day is a special day, especially when you're young.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
I think it's the greatest growth that you can have. Myself.
Speaker 17 (22:53):
I'm saying is personally from working with players, is that
you know, when you come in here, it's you know,
it's much different than than college. You know, every day
you know, it's it's it's like it's kind of like
a new day and you have to embrace and say, Okay,
what can I do now to get better.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Never think that you have it down, you know. You know,
I think once you feel like, oh.
Speaker 17 (23:13):
I've got this down, I think that's where that's where
trouble comes comes up. So I think that, you know,
as long as you can take that, And he's been
embracing that each day, you know, trying to get do
a little bit different things to see if you can
do things better, you know, working together, Like I've always said,
it's an important thing having that relationship. Hey, how does
this feel? What do you feel about this? What are
you thinking here? You know, just trying to get all
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those questions answered so that I can put myself in
a better position to help him play better.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Doug zooming all the way out.
Speaker 19 (23:40):
What's something you feel like you know about your offense
now that you couldn't have known week one.
Speaker 17 (23:47):
I don't know if I look at things in that
kind of perspective, you know, as far as like this
whole like thought process of everything, because I try to,
you know, the one thing I try to do is
stay with the process, stay with what we're doing, and
work on it every single day.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
You know, things change and what you may be doing
each week.
Speaker 17 (24:04):
You know, we've seen that in the league, and then
obviously what you're doing and changes it's going to go.
You know, these defenses that you're seeing, there's there's different
different players, different schemes, different things that you have to
be aware of. So, you know, I try to go
go go at it every you know, every day it's like, hey,
how can I get us better for what we need
to do today? And then you know, how is this
going to be able to affect us how we play Sunday?
(24:26):
Making sure that we're preparing our way, working through the
process and getting ourselves ready to play. Yeah, no problem,
I appreciate it. Thank you guys, Right,
Just your thoughts on that and what it's going to
like to work with them.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Well, it's an honor to coach all those guys, and
Steph is apro who approaches this game with a competitive
spirit and a vigor that you know it's contagious, and
so I just hope I can be of service to
those guys and help them become the players they.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Want to be.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
On the final catch of the game, Kashan Booty, I
think you go about fifteen twenty yards to get to them,
and it's not the first time we see you kind
of animated on the sideline.
Speaker 5 (00:25):
What do those moments meant to you?
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Why is it important to you to be there, you know,
celebrating with the players.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Sure when like fifty I fla. You know, this business
can create a lot of highs and lows for a coach,
and I certainly have had, you know, some times that
haven't been as fun and easy, and so you'll have
to forgive me of sometimes my joy and appreciation for
what I get to do. And to see a guy
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like Kayshawn who's worked so hard and put in so
much work to have a moment like that in his
home state, I couldn't help myself.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
We've always seen the production on the field from cash
On this year, but how have.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
You seen him grow off the field?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I think just his approach becoming a pro And I
know that that word gets thrown around a lot.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
You know, like, oh, you know, we got to be
more of a probe.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
What he truly is becoming a professional football player where
he approaches it like he's got to be intentional with
his time and how he distributes his resources. And I
think that he's seeing the benefits of things like taking
care of his body, getting the extra treatment, the recovery,
you know, picking some of the veterans' brains, having more
conversations with Drake. You know, it's been impressive to watch
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and I think that it's showing up and you know,
sometimes it takes a little patience for things to pop
through from a production standpoint, but it doesn't mean that.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
The approach hasn't been right. What is the message to
the rookies?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
You know, you've seen, you know, the guys the veterans
come through, but the rising rookies like Kyle and Fton,
what are you saying to them on a weekly basis?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, I've had a couple of conversations with them that
you know, those vets have been great examples to him.
Pop Douglas went through a little stretch where he didn't
have a lot of production and then, you know, save
it a ticke attack penalty, he would have had one
hundred and thirty yard game with two touchdowns. You know,
Kishan Budi had a couple of games where the production
wasn't there, but he kept at it, and he kept
at it and it paid off. And so for those
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those young guys, I say the same thing. Keep working
at your craft, keep believing that every time you're running
a route, the ball is going to be in the
air when you turn your eyes around. And I think
both those guys have embraced that, and I think that
it's been fun to watch some kind of gravitate towards
you know, different.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Vets of their own lucking.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
But it's you know, it's a good group and I'm
fortunate to be working with those young guys too.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
What will your emotions be like walking into the Nissan
Stadium Sunday.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
You know, I'm a couple of years removed from from
being there, so you know, it's it's another opportunity for
me to walk into a stadium with a group of
receivers I'm really proud to be working with.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
We're just seeing it from Kashawan in terms of physicality
and making those contested catches.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, he has great play strength and we saw that
in training camp and even in OTAs before we got
pads on. You know, you see him playing sturdy through
contact and being able to track the ball while he's
got a defender in close proximity. So I think he's
done a nice job of that for a while and
being able to catch the ball away from his body
and you know, make sure that he's not giving DB's
a chance to punch through the pocket, quick to the tuck,
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things like that. He's he's been growing in that and
he's been doing a nice job.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Josha talked this morning about in the receiver room, it's
a lot of guys that are, you know, coming in early,
maybe looking for extra work, extra cutups, things like that.
How quickly do you feel like that tone set in
and what went into setting that tone in the rum or?
Was it just a more natural guys came in and
that's how they work from day one.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I think it kind of was, Hey, I'm going to
make resources available to you guys, and I'm available to
you guys, and then I kind of leave it in
their court to.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Either take advantage or not.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
And they have.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
You know, ften Chisholm's in here.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
At six am every single morning and I'm sitting there
with a cup of coffee waiting on him. Maybe he's
not there at six I'm worried about it, you know.
But you know, guys, everyone of them, I mean, every
guy comes in my office four meetings, stops in, gets
a couple of nuggets about the game plan.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
They all worked very, very hard.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
And the key is going to be staying you know,
staying hungry, staying committed to the process. When it you know,
gets later in the season and guys are feeling sore,
they're feeling more tired, and weather changes and all that.
Can they stay consistent? Can they stay hungry? And you know,
I believe they will, and I'll be here to serve them.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
How nice is it to see Pop get going get
a couple explosive plays?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah, another moment that brought me joy. You know, I
was running on that one on the sideline too. You know,
that's that's a play that we practiced with.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Pop hoping that we get the look. We got the look,
and he he ran it perfectly. And you know.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
He's he's had some routes that he's done a really
nice job and been open on the ball just went
somewhere else, and this is one there.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
It went to him, and you know he deserves the
production for the work he's.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Been putting in.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
We saw on Monday after all the running he did.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah, I've got some good stretching it.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I got a nice walking pregame to get loosened up
a little bit, but yeah, I was a little bit.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Sore, I'll be honest.
Speaker 7 (05:00):
So you've mentioned how that group has been really good
at being patient, reading their turns in different guys. You've
been around a lot of different teams with different groups.
Is that rare, especially at that position?
Speaker 3 (05:11):
You know there is something special about it. I'll say that.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
You know, I've certainly been a part of some rooms
that guys were a little bit more interested in looking
out for number one first and then if they were okay,
celebrating everybody else.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
This group is not that way.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
One of my favorite plays of the game, the passer
interference that we threw the go ball to Kyle Williams.
If you watch that sidelin tape, I wasn't running on
that one, but Kayshawan Boody was. And Kayshawn could have
been mad that he wasn't in there for the go
ball or didn't have a chance to run a deep route,
but he was running down the sideline celebrating for Kyle,
thinking that he was going to go score a touchdown.
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That's the kind of culture that I'm proud of in
the room, is that they are truly cheering each other on.
And I think that if you start with gratitude and
you start with celebrating each other, it's really hard for
that third and most of selfishness to come in, you know.
And and that's that's a pretty cool thing. And hopefully
we can continue that as we get going into the
dog days of the season.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Here.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Great, thanks guys.
Speaker 8 (06:12):
That's happened.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
You masked men the Mass. How you gotta doing this here?
Speaker 9 (06:17):
They never be Oh my brother went the worse.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Sterek one of the worst. But you got AMers Emerson volleyball.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Baby.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
You Mass just lost like forty to three to Cap States.
Oh that's golden flass. That's where they're at right. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (06:36):
Uh, Mike really was talking a little bit this week
about how you and Josh have different kind of you said.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Purposes okay with Drake, Yeah, so what what would you say,
like your role is in the development with me and
Mike kind of know you and you and Rginia?
Speaker 10 (06:50):
Sorry, oh so how would you just god your purpose rules?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (06:54):
I think me and me and Josh do a bit
job working together, you know, kind of stend a plan
for what, you know, the plane with the quarterback and
how he fits into the offense. I think Josh does
a good job with the global picture and the big
picture of how the offense should come together, and then
me and him do a good job talking and how
he sees a quarterback playing into that, and you know,
I just try to take Josh's lead and you know,
(07:15):
explaining the quarterback how Josh n visits the play coming
to life.
Speaker 11 (07:19):
Have you seen increased comforting Drake May It's in like
the past two weeks he's really been kind of webbing
fly thut.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (07:24):
I think you know we said back in spring and
training camp, like the more reps you get in the system,
the more turns you get at the plate, so to speak,
the more comfortable you are doing something. So I just
think as the weeks go on, you're getting a little
bit more comfortable when you have an offense that has
consistent rules, so it's not necessarily changing on him every
single week.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I think that just gives him confidence to go out
there and do his job.
Speaker 8 (07:45):
Has he advanced or excelled any quicker than perhaps you
had put on the calendar.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
I wouldn't say that.
Speaker 9 (07:56):
I think we set lofty goals for him as a
quarterback when we got in the offseason. I think he
jumped at the bit to do that. I think, you know,
we try to shoot for the moon and land on
the stars, so to speak. So we try to set
those goals high for him, and he's a hungry kid.
He didn't want to, you know, have a governor on him,
so we try to give him the whole bowload and
see if he can reach those things.
Speaker 8 (08:15):
Is he at the moon or at the stars.
Speaker 9 (08:18):
I think we're working every day to keep getting better.
I think we'll measure how, you know, this season was
at the end of the season. I don't want to,
you know, take it a week at a time. We're
only in week seven, but like how he's progressing so far.
Speaker 10 (08:31):
We see those do a lot of like ball security
drills to start practice sale hocket, How have you seen
that with Drake translate to get a lot.
Speaker 9 (08:37):
I mean, I think the first big one where it
was like the aha moment was down in Miami when
we hit the big one in Reminder where.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
He stepped up in the pocket.
Speaker 9 (08:45):
But I think it shows up multiple times every single week,
and you know, we pointed out every time to let
him know that, hey, we're doing these drills for a
reason and it's cool to.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
See them come to life once Sunday.
Speaker 10 (08:54):
Was that an area when you first got here, like
he wanted to get better with him?
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
I think that was one of the things.
Speaker 9 (08:59):
You know, as a staff we talked about just kind
of tweaking and improving a little bit with just his
blall security, his pocket maneuvering. And I think he's done
a good job owning that and you know, taking practice
of the.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Game field go ahead. What are some things that he
brings naturally when it comes to his pocket presence. I
just think he has a great feel.
Speaker 9 (09:16):
I think about the one clip that he kind of
hit the floater to a trayon and he felt. I
think it was Cam Jordan climbing around his back up
in the pocket. He stepped up with two hands, he
ripped it forward and instead of bringing it back into
his throw motion, he flipped it.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Out of there.
Speaker 9 (09:31):
And somebody asked me, as a quarterback, coaches that like
make you cringe a little bit. And if he were
to stay in his throwing base and just flip his
hips and throw it, I don't think anyone would have,
you know, been afraid that he got the ball to
the checkdown. Is just how he got it to the checkdown.
Everyone was kind of like, oh my goodness. But I
think that just goes to show his feeling the pocket.
He has a good sense of what's going on around him,
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so that was pretty neat.
Speaker 10 (09:53):
It seems like a lot of the downfield throws he's made,
he is moving around and able to keep his eyes
down the field.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah, Is that an area that you've seen him improving
as well? I think so.
Speaker 9 (10:01):
I think you know, there's two plays that defenses had
to defend. It's the structured play that you know, us
his coaches try to design, and then if that play
doesn't end up working itself out, it's the play when
things break down, the out of structure plays, I think
that's one in Drake Straws, who is just keeping his
eyes down field, keeping the play alive.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
And I think he's done.
Speaker 9 (10:19):
A better job of that, just keeping his eyes down
the field to try to get those explosives.
Speaker 8 (10:23):
He wasn't in the pocket when he was headed toward
out of bounds, was about to be tackled, flipped to
his left hand, and yeah, where do you see.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
That or what does that category?
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Does that one fall under?
Speaker 9 (10:38):
That goes in the category of Drake making a good
situational play and understanding the rules once you leave the pocket,
as long as the ball gets back to the line
of scrimmage, it's not you want to get calls for
intentional grounding. And we try to avoid as many sacks
as we can so if nothing's opening, we can get
out and get the ball out of.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Our hands safely into a safe area, no matter which hand.
Speaker 9 (10:58):
I think he's done that before. I so I've seen
that on this college shape. I saw that on this
tape last year.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (11:03):
So I just think it's a smart play in terms
of making sure the offense doesn't go backwards because we
know the value of a negative play, and that's something
that we preach to them a lot, just making sure
that worst case scenario, the D and D is the
same it was, or the distance was the same it
was the previous sport.
Speaker 11 (11:21):
Much consistency in the offense. It seems like you guys
aren't afraid to call some of the same plays within
the game. What's your philosophy when it comes to that,
and how valuable is that for the quarterback to be
able to work the same concepts and plays with that game.
Speaker 9 (11:31):
I just think it's pretty neat because if you think
of the probabilities of us calling the same play and
the defense calling the same exact defense, the chances are pretty.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
You know low.
Speaker 9 (11:39):
So as for a quarterback, you know, one time you're
running the play, it might be versus this coveras the
next time is versus another cover. So one play this
guy gets the ball, the next time someone else gets
the ball. So it's it's been pretty cool because we
try to dress it up different ways, so it looks
different to the to the defense, but it's the same
for the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
So again more swings at the play of doing the.
Speaker 9 (11:57):
Same thing, though over and over again, you talked a
little bit about ball security drills of you.
Speaker 10 (12:01):
Know, him being in the pocket and which like fumble.
But how has he improved in avoiding interceptions over the
last few weeks.
Speaker 9 (12:10):
I just think it's the work that he puts in
throughout the week, just what the coverages, the defenses are playing,
and what to expect.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
He does a great job.
Speaker 9 (12:18):
I really think he's in there right now with the
entire offense watching practice as we are watching it as
a coaching staff, and getting everybody else on the same page.
So I think he does a good job studying and
getting guys on the same page and then confirming what
he sees post snap.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I think he does a good job.
Speaker 11 (12:31):
You work with one of the best in the league,
Kevin Sefanski when it comes to play sequence agains, setting
things up.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
How does Josh mccangels maybe set himself.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Apart in that area and set defensive up for certain things.
I think Josh is a very bright offensive coordinator.
Speaker 9 (12:44):
I think he takes almost everything into account when he
calls plays, not only a quarterback, but the offensive line,
the receivers. How can he switch up the launch point
for those guys so you know the defenders can't tee
off on the pass rush, And I just think he's
thinking about a ton of different things at sometime to
go over the coaches heads. It's pretty interesting seeing his
calls you once the game is over and all the
(13:05):
different sequence things that he thought about going to. But
a stone doesn't go and turn with that guy, He's
thought about a lot of different scenarios.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
And I'm learning a ton from him just being around him.
Speaker 12 (13:14):
Ask you more questions what I like, appreciate, playing against,
and so he's he is, uh, progressing, well, he's moving
right along.
Speaker 13 (13:31):
He's you know, sometimes when I talk to Josh and
just ask about the guys are here in the past,
and sounds like from Josh, and he's very he's very
much on par with what you know, kind of some
of the other guys that played early as rookies. Is
he feels like he's in that same world when as
where they were, when they where they were at this
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point in their rookie seasons. So he's continued to get better.
I mean, I'm in you know, So we'll we'll keep
working him and he'll keep progressing and we'll keep rolling.
Speaker 14 (14:05):
Yeah, I'm sorry if people asked us what I was
gonna say, I was gonna kind of piggyback off that.
And one of the things that a lot of people
kind of come up with is that the James White comparison,
it's a lot to put on him. But James White,
I think, only played two or three games his rookie year.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
And I'm not.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
Saying that Trevion is gonna follow that, say Mark, but
there are guys here in New England, specifically running back
to Shane Green is another one where it was like
it takes some time. It's just you know, the good
in the summer, as you mentioned, but it just takes
some time for them to get there.
Speaker 15 (14:31):
Right.
Speaker 13 (14:32):
I'm not gonna make any comparisons because it's unfair to
the kids. And obviously I didn't coach those other guys,
and they had they were really good players here for
a long time. So I don't want to put that
expectation on anybody. But I had an opportunity to, you know,
throughout these these seventy years of minor coach and rookies,
and he is progressed as well or better than any
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of the other rookies I've coached throughout you know, it's
a long season, a lot of things happening, and he
and he's it's important to him. He works at it,
and he is progressing, he is getting better, and it'll come,
you know, like we all want the explosive plays, the
big plays, and you don't chase him. You let you
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let him come to you. And I think when people
start chasing those things, you start getting out of character,
and then you start doing things outside of the offense,
and then then it causes problem. So I think he's
taking a strate.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
He's playing within the offense.
Speaker 13 (15:31):
He's doing what we ask him to do, and as
long as he does that, in my opinion, the other
stuff will come as we continue to play. I mean,
we're six weeks in. Uh we still got a lot
of football left to play. So I'm excited to see
how it continues to progress and what it looks like
at the end of season.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Thank you guys, you're ready for Connecticut this week.
Speaker 15 (16:01):
I guess I'll start with the somewhat easy one. Just
hows how do you think Will has come along here?
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Thing?
Speaker 5 (16:06):
He's only given us like one sex.
Speaker 16 (16:08):
And sweek one, So I just want to get your
I keep going back to pretty much my standard thing
like you know, I think each week, especially for a
young player, there's different challenges.
Speaker 17 (16:20):
You know, there's so many different types of players and
a lot of good players that he's going against. So
you know, we just try to get a good plan
for him every week, you know, talk about the details,
you know, the techniques and the fundamentals, and keep working
it and and and just trying to take you know,
attack each day.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
And and and keep going forward. You know, you look.
Speaker 17 (16:41):
At a game or you look at a practice and
you say, hey, this is what we can do better,
you know, and the next day you work on those things.
And I think that's just the normal process as you
go through it. But you know, so uh, it's it's
been you know, he's been good. I mean, he's he's
he's locked into that.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 15 (17:00):
And I just you know, I was asking Josh earlier
about all the different pass protection calls that you guys
seem to have on a given week. How good is
Josh ad you know, building in different change ups into
your past protection s.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
It's not the same thing I think he's out saying.
Speaker 17 (17:16):
I mean, I mean, he's he's done it, you know,
for a long period of time.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
I think that you know, I know, for you know.
Speaker 17 (17:24):
An offensive line or an offensive line coach, you know,
someone that really understands.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
The issues that are out there.
Speaker 17 (17:33):
I think that Josh has been one of the best
I've ever been around as far as being able to
do that stuff. So believe me, you know, I've been
in some situations where it's not like that and it
is hard, and to have someone that understands that it
is great.
Speaker 15 (17:49):
Yeah, it just seems like you know, another watching another
tape around the league, I'll drop back pass like forty
times and just needed offensive line out there and just kind.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
Of yeah, yeah, I can't speak quin.
Speaker 15 (18:01):
I'm just saying, like, you know, it seems like he
does a really nice job, a.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Great They does a great job.
Speaker 17 (18:06):
I really do, really do, And we've got to continue
to keep getting better and better in.
Speaker 18 (18:11):
The communication with Drake Man and the offensive line. How
do you think that's go going to sort of overall?
Speaker 5 (18:17):
I think it was a great It's something that we
started from the beginning.
Speaker 17 (18:20):
I think that obviously, you know, when you play the
center position, you know, with Garrett, you know, playing the
center and Drake, I think that communication is where it starts,
you know, and then it gets you know, communicated.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
Throughout the line.
Speaker 17 (18:31):
I think that you know, it's something that that's that's
that's been working well, and it's something that you know,
we continue to put an emphasis on, you know, because
it's very easy to communicate, you know, and in the
classroom or you know, in the field, and then you
get into somebody these environments and the you know, the
hostile environments, and that communication becomes very key, you know,
(18:53):
to having any type of success.
Speaker 18 (18:55):
Speak speaking all of that three trade road games, how
much do you guys work on the sunity insid and
all that is that sort of overplay a little bit?
Speaker 17 (19:03):
And I mean it's like I said before, I think
I got this question asked the other time. I think,
you know, it's not something that you just all of
a sudden started working on when you're going there.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
It started we started working on it.
Speaker 17 (19:13):
Back when we first got together, and you know, and
I think it's important because it's really you know, especially
on a silences, the group that's in there, the timing
that they have, how they feel comfortable with it, you know,
all the different types of silent you know that you
may have in a game plan, and something that we've
worked on, I think, you know, something that I feel
like we've gotten a little bit better at and we
(19:33):
can continue to get better.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
As we go along. So we never want to take
it for granted.
Speaker 17 (19:39):
So it's something that you know, we we we do
a lot, and you know, coause we're able to you know,
does a good job. We we get a good, good,
good dose of it in a in a hostile situation.
Speaker 15 (19:48):
You know, however, we create that When you look at
the run game tape, just what are you seeing with it?
Speaker 5 (19:54):
And how close do you feel like you guys are well?
Speaker 17 (19:57):
You know, I think that you know, we obviously we
we we have to get better. I think when when
that happens, and I think there's a lot of things
involved me myself personally, I look.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
At it, Hey what can I do a better job of? Hey?
Can I can I detail this up?
Speaker 9 (20:11):
You know?
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Can I you know, you know, get maybe.
Speaker 17 (20:13):
Work a little bit more on the proper technique for it,
you know, and the fundamentals that we need to use.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
So, you know, I take a good look at myself.
Speaker 17 (20:20):
First when things aren't going well in any part of
what we're trying to do, and I say, hey, listen,
how can I contribute to that, and that's what we've
been focusing on. You know, I'm saying, obviously there's a
lot of different things in a game that you have
to do. The run game is a big part of it,
and it's something that you know, I know I can
do a better job of that.
Speaker 19 (20:37):
I asked Josh earlier today about your use of motion,
which has been super effective when you choose to use it,
and I know there are certain things that you're looking
for what it's used, which isn't all the time. What's
your role been in the game planning process when you're
deciding when to use motion.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
And to give a week.
Speaker 17 (20:50):
Well, I think I think we're all involved, you know.
I think that that's the process. I think we have
a lot of good coaches on our side of the ball.
I think that Josh does a great job of taking
ideas and you know, seeing it all fits together, and
he's the one, you know, basically at the end of
the day.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
That puts it all together for us.
Speaker 17 (21:04):
So I think, you know, we have a lot of
good ideas, a lot of good thoughts, and then whatever
which ones that we make a decision to go with,
that's what we go with.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
And then we try to make it work for us.
Speaker 19 (21:12):
You're across paths with Mike McCoy, yes, yeah. Do you
have any insights working with him or friend?
Speaker 17 (21:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (21:19):
Yeah, I mean I know, Mike, any insights this week?
You know, we got to I don't have. I really don't.
Speaker 17 (21:25):
You know, it's a it's always a tough situation when
these things go on. And you know, like I said,
I have a friendship with Mike. We've known each other
for a long period of time. I think when you're
in this league long enough, you get to know a
lot of people. But I got a ton of respect
from Mike, and.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
I really that's it.
Speaker 15 (21:44):
Just looking at the round him again, it seems like
you guys have been able to generate a decent amount
of push sometimes but maybe up to the second level
of third level as you've necessarily been there. Just how
do you get you know, blockers up further down the fields.
You can spread your nose around a little bit for it.
I just think that those are some of the things
that we're working on, you know what I'm.
Speaker 17 (22:03):
Saying, and trying to, you know, get some drills that
you can do individually and and so we can get
a better a better feel for that, you know as
we work through it. So you know we've worked a
little bit on it obviously, you know, put some emphasis
on it. We detailed it up, and you know it's
you can say all you want, you can work on it.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
I've been this league.
Speaker 17 (22:23):
You know, you just have to get out there and
be able to do it when it counts. That's what
people are looking at. But you know we're working hard
to try to get everything you know, done with the
details and fundamentals so we can be in a better position.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
Yeah, well that's one for me.
Speaker 15 (22:37):
Just that Jared, ask the same question to ask you
about Will, just how you've seen him progress here.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 17 (22:42):
I mean again, you know, when when you're a young player,
you know, and you're playing, I think I think every
day is a special day, especially when you're young.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
I think it's the greatest growth that you can have. Myself.
Speaker 17 (22:53):
I'm saying is personally from working with players, is that
you know, when you come in here, it's you know,
it's much different than than college. You know, every day
you know, it's it's it's like it's kind of like
a new day and you have to embrace and say, Okay,
what can I do now to get better.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Never think that you have it down, you know. You know,
I think once you feel like, oh.
Speaker 17 (23:13):
I've got this down, I think that's where that's where
trouble comes comes up. So I think that, you know,
as long as you can take that, And he's been
embracing that each day, you know, trying to get do
a little bit different things to see if you can
do things better, you know, working together, Like I've always said,
it's an important thing having that relationship. Hey, how does
this feel? What do you feel about this? What are
you thinking here? You know, just trying to get all
(23:34):
those questions answered so that I can put myself in
a better position to help him play better.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Doug zooming all the way out.
Speaker 19 (23:40):
What's something you feel like you know about your offense
now that you couldn't have known week one.
Speaker 17 (23:47):
I don't know if I look at things in that
kind of perspective, you know, as far as like this
whole like thought process of everything, because I try to,
you know, the one thing I try to do is
stay with the process, stay with what we're doing, and
work on it every single day.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
You know, things change and what you may be doing
each week.
Speaker 17 (24:04):
You know, we've seen that in the league, and then
obviously what you're doing and changes it's going to go.
You know, these defenses that you're seeing, there's there's different
different players, different schemes, different things that you have to
be aware of. So, you know, I try to go
go go at it every you know, every day it's like, hey,
how can I get us better for what we need
to do today? And then you know, how is this
going to be able to affect us how we play Sunday?
(24:26):
Making sure that we're preparing our way, working through the
process and getting ourselves ready to play. Yeah, no problem,
I appreciate it. Thank you guys, Right,
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