Patriots Postgame Show 10/13: Texans Recap, Evaluating Drake Maye's Performance and Injury Updates

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 4 (00:24):
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
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Speaker 3 (00:32):
Here's Matt Smith Ian. Good afternoon everyone.

Speaker 5 (00:37):
Thank you for joining us on the Patriots Postgame Show,
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Post Shame is postgame shows presented by DraftKings. Matt Smith
alongside with Paul Prillo, We will be joined by Mike
Dusaut and likely Fred Kirsch. The Patriots lose today to
the Houston Texans. It's the Texans first ever win here

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in Fox ro Chelette Stadium. They lose by score forty
one to twenty one. Paul, I have a feeling that
most of the conversation will be generated not really about
the outcome today, but by the player quarterback, give me
an instant analysis.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
I couldn't agree with you more.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
I would expect to see two hours of talk about
the quarterback, not necessarily the game. I think there were
certainly a lot of things that we feared about putting
a rookie quarterback in too soon. But you also saw
why people were so excited. There were enough plays to
have you. You know, it's one of those if you're
a if you're a hack golfer like me, Matt, and

(01:33):
you just have that one birdie or that one shot
that keeps you coming back. There were those plays today
that you saw him make and you said, that's why
he was the third overall pick.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Reason for excitement. Okay, so he threw three touchdown passes.

Speaker 6 (01:49):
He did.

Speaker 5 (01:49):
That's on the good side of the ledger for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
He turned it over three times, and yeah he did.

Speaker 5 (01:58):
Yeah, so turn it over three right, So the realest
in me, you know, I want to get excited to Paul,
I don't want to I want to dump on I
don't want to dump on everybody who's going to be
happy about it today. But you can also see, and
I think you just said that why people say, let's
hold off because he can be careless with the football.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
He can be electric with the.

Speaker 5 (02:14):
Football, he can be careless with the football, and they
need to try to learn that out of him, right.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
Yeah, And I think that's what we're talking about. And
like the excitement comes from the bar where the bar
is right, Like it's his first ever start, so you're
you're glombing onto the accentuating the positive plays.

Speaker 7 (02:32):
You know.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
The bomb to Booty was awesome.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
Yeah, you know, at the end of the half, it's
probably lit some excitement in this place that I don't
know if we've seen since that last second touchdown against
Buffalo last year. Like you have to go back that
far right, you know, for that kind of excitement and
do that. And this, I mean, this throw is just perfect.
It's beautiful, and this is you know, this is a
lot of things to be excited about. Obviously we're going

(02:56):
to talk a lot about Drake May, but it's Kasehan
Boody beating Derek Stingley outside and he beats them.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
I mean, he beats them clean.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
It's one on one and the whole very easy to defend,
goes out the window on a play like this. So yeah,
I thought there were enough of those kinds of things
during the course of the day that well, you know,
you know, we're gonna do the good, the bad, and
the injured will probably wait till Mike comes down. Sure,
I didn't have Drake May on on any list today.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
I think that's a perfect spot to put him in.
But I was in the middle.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
But I would say I come away personally far more
enthused and excited, probably than I anticipated being there were
there were enough good plays. There were more than just
one or two, Like, there were enough really good plays
that you can see it like he's he's got something.
Now he's gonna have to harness it, because you're right
about the turnovers, Matt. But yeah, I I came away

(03:48):
pretty pretty excited about some of the things that I saw.

Speaker 5 (03:52):
Just one thing to point out on a touchdown to
Booty to Paul and May said it as they were
going into the locker room at halftime on an offensive
line that I you can't even call it patchwork anymore.
It's so h discombobulated. But he had a clean pot
pocket on that play, one of the rare times he
did in the game, and they took advantage of it,
you know, which was really nice to the whole operation

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of that play.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
And that's what's gonna happen. It was a professional football play,
and you're right, but that's what's gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
They're gonna see a lot of pressure because teams are
gonna look at it and say that they can't protect
and they're gonna come after you know, Houston. Houston really
came after him in the first half and made him,
made him real uncomfortable.

Speaker 5 (04:29):
Yeah, yeah, it looked like he I thought he showed
some poison spite of all that, Paul, you know, he
didn't look flustered, he didn't look that one.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
I'm I'm not as I'm not as convinced on that.
I thought there were times he kind of looked exactly
the way you would expect.

Speaker 5 (04:46):
Here in the head you running around.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
I thought he, you know, like sort of missing some
some up you know, not necessarily the opportunities, but like
you know, kind of looking at the rush a little bit.
I mean again, things that I would absolutely expect in
the first first start, Like mac Jones. I remember like
one of the first passes that it might have been
the first pass he attempted as a pro. He threw

(05:09):
the ball backwards, so you know, like these things happen
to young, young quarterbacks. Like I said, I come away,
I'm not being blind. I'm not trying to be like
this is sunshine with Patriots. I'm not trying to do that.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
I saw the things.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
That people are worried about, but I saw enough things
that I'm excited about that I'm accentuating those today.

Speaker 5 (05:29):
Okay, Mike Dusau joins us now Mike instant analysis. The
Patriots lose forty one to twenty one. But as I
said to Paul when we started, I don't think many
people are gonna be talking about the game in this
postgame show.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
I think it's going to be reserved for the quarterback.

Speaker 8 (05:40):
Yeah, I would. I would echo you know someone what
Paul said. I think that there's the foundation of an
actual NFL offense out there, or you know, at least
an NFL quarterback. Some of the throws that he made,
or you know, like we talked about this summer. You
see the arm strength, I mean, the impressive throw on
the touchdown. You know that that's encouraging. But end of
the day, that the turnovers, the mistakes, the untimely plays

(06:02):
by the defense where you know, just a weird kind
of day where they're pretty stout against the run and
then you know, a couple big touchdown runs really hurt them.
So inconsistent on that side of the ball. I was
just really frustrated by the start. In the third quarter,
you felt good, you kind of ended well, it's all
of a sudden, it's fourteen seven. I mean, I felt
like it should have been made twenty eight to seven.
But somehow you get out of that first half fourteen
seven and you know, to go out, they missed the

(06:23):
face mask boom, it's twenty one seven.

Speaker 9 (06:26):
Just like that.

Speaker 8 (06:26):
It's just it's just, you know, really really hard to
overcome when you have four turnovers like that. But like
I said, I think you have there's a little bit
of a spark there and something that I don't know
if I would have said it back in twenty twenty
one with that offense, where it just felt like, even
in success, sometimes it felt like this is gonna be grind.
It's always got to be perfect. You know, they got
a ways to go, but there's a little bit there,
and I think that kid's gonna make this season you know,

(06:48):
more exciting, more interesting to watch for sure.

Speaker 5 (06:49):
Okay, So Paul says he's excited, Matt says he's excited.
Mike says he's excited. They're one in five. I think
this is a tough spot for the coach and the
coaching staff to be and because I think you're gonna
see some you're gonna hear and see some general enthusiasm
around this team. They lost by twenty and deservedly so,
because they were careless with the football. The last when

(07:10):
I stopped keeping track, it was nine penalties for fifty
yards more sloppy football play. How do you balance the
fact that your team's not good enough to do shoot
yourself in the foot all the time with the fact
that you might keyword might have found something in the quarterback.

Speaker 8 (07:25):
Yeah, I mean you just have to accept that that
it's going to take time. And I think that's what's
on display. We knew that coming into the season. I
think it's harder to swallow that when you're watching a
veteran quarterback who isn't the rookie going out there and
you know, yeah, so we're zero and one with Drake
May And I think if you look at it that way,
you know, I honestly I would say right now, like
my bigges bigger concern is just like the defense is

(07:46):
so up and down. You know, it just goes from
you know, they can't get anything right too. Then they
force a couple of punts, and you know it's just
it's hard to really feel like the defense that has
any kind of consistence.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
I thought that, yeah, because I that's a great point, Mike,
because I thought they were like I wouldn't say this
was a great defensive game, but they were also putting
some tough spots and handled some of them, some of
them reasonably well. Seventeen turnovers, you can't you you can't
like sort of overlook the like the first drive like

(08:18):
a hot knife, and you know, this is kind of
becoming a little bit of a trend where the other
team gets the ball to started. You know, one of
Miami's best drives last week was the first drive of
the game too, and they had nothing offensively. I don't
think the Patriots played well defensively today, but I also
think it could have been worse because of some of
the spots they were put in. Now, you know, I

(08:38):
think the Texans kind of helped out a little bit.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
I think Stroud.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
Missed an easy touchdown to to Dalton Schultz in the
in the end zone and was late and uh short
on the throw and that you know, caused Schultz to
not catch it. He had two hands on it. It's
got to catch it. He didn't, and then it pops
up in the air ends up being an interception. Great play,
a great awareness, good coverage by Mapu, you know, to

(09:04):
get to scrabble back into the play in a great
play by Marcus Jones. But I just thought there were
too many times where okay, if they can just get
a stop here and it's third and five, and it's
so easy, you know, on some of those key spots
third like this is what I mean. Like, I don't
think they were terrible defensively today third downs, Like you know,
Houston was four to eleven. It's not terrible, not terrible defense.

Speaker 8 (09:26):
Take it.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
But everyone you had to have they got right.

Speaker 5 (09:29):
So, Paul, I think that leads us nicely into the good,
the bad, and the injured.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Now it's time for the good. But the good, but
the good, the bad and the injured.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
Ah ah, you are right guy.

Speaker 5 (09:49):
You want to lead it off, Paul, And I think
maybe for edification for Mike when we were talking about
may I think it's worth repeating where Hall said he
would place Drake me on this list.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
I didn't have money any list.

Speaker 8 (10:04):
Yeah, that's I mean, it's the philosophical question. I think, like,
on one hand, you could say, hey, started, he threw
some nice balls, he got his feet wet.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
But my good, my best, my best, good thing that
I would put on this list, though, is going to
involve him. And it's the the you know, the drive
at the end of the half. And I just thought
it was such a I'm gonna get all like, you know,
philosophical I just thought it was such a like a
contrast to what we've been talking about. Yeah, you know,

(10:31):
in the Seattle in Miami situation. So they get backed
up similarly, you know, I think it was the sixteen
yard line, they run the ball similarly on the first play,
the other team didn't take a time out. You sort
of let the clock run and you're like, okay, let's get.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
Out of the half.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
Then they throw it and he throws a pass all
the way across the field and it was, you know,
kind of look a little dicey, you know, but he
has the arm to get it there it gets out
to Mario Douglas.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
Douglas is able to get.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
Up the sideline, get out of bounds, get the first down,
and I just thought it stood as such a contrast
to the disasters and time management at the end of
the half with Brissette. Now all of a sudden, you
have a drive going, you make a play and that
culminates with an absolutely gorgeous forty yard touchdown from May
to Booty. So that was the best thing about this
game to me, was that sequence at the end of

(11:20):
the first half.

Speaker 8 (11:21):
That was my best good Yeah, I I hesitate to
put Kishan Booty on the actual good list, but just
to maybe piggyback on yours, just to say, I just
thought that was a great catch from him. I mean
that that play down the field mentioned in the pregame,
show his hands, something that stands out. I mean, May
threw that ball. They were they were even, you know.
I just I thought the way he threw that ball
with anticipation, really struggling with the goods in the back

(11:44):
like he gets by perfect.

Speaker 5 (11:46):
I got to catch that ball.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Oh this is It's a perfect throw. Right, It's a
great throw. But but I like Mike before you came down.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
I was like, this is like runs the gamut of
the things that if you're a Patriots fan that you're
really excited about, because it's not it's just Drake May
coming in and doing something. It's he's throwing the ball
to a second year receiver too, who beats a really
good cornerback yep, yep, you know, and Derek Stingley. So
I just thought, you can't if you know you want

(12:12):
to be a dorky Patriots man, I don't think you
could be excited enough about that play.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
Yeah, now you know you need more of them, get
more of them.

Speaker 5 (12:19):
And then just so before we put Booty in the
Hall of Fame, Patriots Hall of Fame, I had a
second and seven play in the second quarter where he
just flat out whift on a block and got it winning.
The running backs killed in me.

Speaker 8 (12:29):
Yeah, like I said, in the back, not putting him
on the not putting him on there, but just wanted to,
you know, highlight it. I just I'm really struggling with
the goods and the bats, because I think just about
every player it's kind of like Drake was today where
I can point to two or three plays that were
really good. And I can point to two or three
plays that were not very good, especially on the defensive
side of the ball. But but I will put to
Mario Douglas on the list, looking at his you know,

(12:51):
final stats, to catch his ninety two yards thirty five
yard long that that touchdown, got his first touchdown. Ye,
he was an effective piece and I thought you really
started to see, you know, maybe why he might have
been itching to get Drake in there. He was very
involved and just showed the production and the way that
you know, you're hoping that this kid can contribute. So
I put Douglas he is a.

Speaker 5 (13:11):
Threat to score every time he touches the ball, no
question about it.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
Nothing if not consistent.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
So I would say, like that's what I was talking
about before the game, like I want to see some
of those NFL plays, those crossers, yes, you know, and
unfortunately I thought may missed a few of them. The
first interception was was one that I thought he overshot him.
He had another one that he threw well behind. You know,
there was listen, there was a little nuke l loos

(13:37):
to that performance today.

Speaker 5 (13:39):
A really good comp but because he sprayed it all
over the place.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
But yeah, but I just like those crossers to Douglas.
You know, I was joking with Freddie. I was like,
that's the guy that you guys have been telling me
about that for two That's the first time I saw it.
Like he torched that guy on the touchdown off the
line of scrimmage. It was not even competitive. He beat
him within like you know, like uncovering and getting open.
He beat him within the first millisecond of the route

(14:05):
and comes across the field and he's you know, it's
a thirty five yard touchdown.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
That's good stuff. Is it okay?

Speaker 5 (14:11):
Is it okay that the boss is joining us now
to break format and get some instant analysis.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
From fred No, he gets he jumps in with the
good okay, then jump in.

Speaker 10 (14:20):
Can you imagine what this kid's going to be like
when he has an adequate front line in front of
him and a couple of weapons.

Speaker 8 (14:28):
Yeah, that's me.

Speaker 10 (14:30):
I'm excited. I'm excited. Put him on the good list.
First game against this defense with this support cast. Put
him on the good list.

Speaker 5 (14:39):
I think Paul and I had him on no list.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
I didn't have many We didn't have him the good list.
We didn't have the bad list. You, guys, I have
him on the on the on the Paul Excitement List.
That's where I have.

Speaker 10 (14:50):
He provided you excitement.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
That's why he's on the Paul Excitement.

Speaker 10 (14:53):
Put him on the good listt put him on the
good list.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
I can't put a guy who turned the ball over
three times on the good list.

Speaker 10 (14:58):
Just what did you expect?

Speaker 3 (15:00):
I didn't expect anything. I was watching the game and
I was going to see what happened.

Speaker 10 (15:03):
He made you excited. I absolutely made you excited. Excited
he guys on the good list.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
I was absolutely excited. Can we also? He also turned
the ball over three times? I can't put him on the.

Speaker 10 (15:13):
Cause I knew that was going to happen.

Speaker 5 (15:14):
And some of the passes, you know, that was just
so all over, all over the place.

Speaker 10 (15:18):
Finally he thinks Pop Douglas is good.

Speaker 8 (15:20):
I know, Well, hey where we got that came?

Speaker 3 (15:22):
He got a touchdown to polk.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
Look anyway, I said, I said, I joke to Fred, Oh,
this is what you guys have been telling me he
does all the time.

Speaker 10 (15:34):
No, we told you it is. We told you what
he can do. What that's that's what he does. Okay,
but yeah, you didn't see the speed.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
Yeah, okay, he beat that guy in a blink off
the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 10 (15:47):
That was and it was a good pass that led
him and he allowed him.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
It's part of what I would.

Speaker 10 (15:52):
Have allowed him to show his talent.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
You know, I'll save my nitpicking probably until the week,
but you know, it would have been nice to see
some of that in the first three quarters of the game,
and it was a little bit more competitive. But I'm nitpicking.
That's a nitpick.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Is that it for goods?

Speaker 8 (16:07):
I mean, honestly, it might be for me. I mean,
as much as I could point out good plays with
some of these guys, there are also other players that
I could I could point out and be bad, and
I don't, you know, want to shorten the segment, but
I think a lot of these guys are are worthy
of I.

Speaker 10 (16:19):
Really only I had four people. I had May I'm good.
I'm good. I had I had Pop Douglas, Okay.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Mike had him, I had Booty.

Speaker 10 (16:30):
Mentioned them, and I give Hasty a good just for
being thrown in there and in the effort not not
dropping the ball. Who Hasty for?

Speaker 11 (16:42):
What?

Speaker 10 (16:43):
For just getting it being thrown in there?

Speaker 3 (16:45):
And you know he's the like a backup running back.

Speaker 5 (16:48):
The lead kickoff returner who I think.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
At least kickoff returner every game at.

Speaker 5 (16:53):
Least twice stopped and allowed the other team to tackle him. No,
he's like the kickoff return was.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
He had to carries for twelve yards.

Speaker 10 (17:00):
Yeah, I put him on the good Wow, Okay, I
think I would.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
I have to say, this is the most incredulous I've
ever been over a selection for you, the list in
the illustrious history of this pro the illustrious history of
this program, Like.

Speaker 5 (17:15):
Are you Jennings and I give I given the defense.

Speaker 10 (17:23):
No one gets on the good list, the whole defense.
It was absolutely disgusting.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
But I don't kill the defense. I do, I don't.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
I mean I I it wasn't good. It's again it's
not on the good list. But they were put in
a lot of bad spots and they didn't always give
up a touchdown.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
There were a couple of full play field goal drives.

Speaker 10 (17:40):
It's not it's full plays three yards field.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
That's as good as you can it's.

Speaker 10 (17:44):
Just not the final points. It's like, you know, you
get you get in a position and then like you
give up these big runs and it's just that's fair.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
That's that's fair.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
I'm like, I've seen the I've seen the defense play
a lot worse than it did today. I know they
give forty one points and it looks horrible. I don't
think they were responsible for the forty one points stats.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
Would they run for Houston? Run for total? Well, they
ran for a lot, but it was all on three.

Speaker 5 (18:08):
Three rays, right, But those plays were not competitive.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
Jeezus one hundred and ninety two.

Speaker 8 (18:15):
Again, yea one hundred ninety two Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 4 (18:18):
Seven yards yeah, fifty nine and fifty four yard runs.

Speaker 8 (18:21):
One hundred of them came on two gigs. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
Maybe I'm not putting like, I'm not telling you the
defense was good by any stretch.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
It was not good today. Fred's right.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
Fred's way more right than I am. I just I
think there were some extenuating circumstances.

Speaker 10 (18:35):
They were made to look worse than they were.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
But it I thought that some of the spots they
were put in they handled pretty well.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
But you're right.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
I mean, bottom line is there were times when they
gave up plays and you know, like you need to stop,
Like you.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
Know, Mike was joking.

Speaker 8 (18:53):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
He Mike had a little look in his eye today
that I haven't really seen much.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
Mike was envisioning a thirty five thirty.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
Four win that I thought was quite pure, out of
pure Fantasy lands. And it's third and five and I'm like,
I just looked at and after that playoff was like,
that's what's happened all day. Every time, every time they
needed to complete a little pass, they completed a little
pass unless they did something to stop it, and like
that was as easy. And then the next play Pierce

(19:21):
runs fifty four yards with a touchdown.

Speaker 5 (19:23):
Douce your favorite player today? How do you think he looked?

Speaker 8 (19:26):
Who is Who's my favorite player? Stefan Diggs, Don't get
me started on him, Like all right, so that's what
just kills me like that, Like and Paul saw me.
I had steam coming out of my ears to you know,
the rest are calling all these tiki taky calls on
the first and yes, some of them are just talking
about But then a blatant face mask where like everyone
can see it.

Speaker 5 (19:43):
It's crossed the Patriots and a touchdown.

Speaker 10 (19:46):
They missed that it gave them a touch And then
my best friend.

Speaker 8 (19:48):
Stefan Diggs, the great, greatest guy ever, then gets a
freaking taunting penalty, like the great guy that he is. Uh,
I just think he's a turd. I I wouldn't know.
I wouldn'tant him on my team. I honestly wouldn't. I know,
says I'm stupid that you need that number one and
that guy is awesome. But I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
I just I wouldn't want to win the team now,
but I would. I would have wanted him on my
team the last five years, and you were like turned
them up.

Speaker 8 (20:11):
He didn't never want anything with Buffalo. There's a reason
they got rid of him.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
So you know, one of those they never want anything.

Speaker 8 (20:16):
They never want anything. What they want they that's so,
that's that's it.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Like you win eleven twelve games.

Speaker 8 (20:22):
I'm mad right now and I'm pouting.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
Stop putting credit though, Fred, because he's very consistent.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
He had no use for the twelve and four seasons
the Patriots are putting.

Speaker 8 (20:30):
I had no use for a number one. If it's anyway,
let's let's move on from Dicks. I just I want
to mention I don't know if he's on that list,
but this Ben Brown kid came out of nowhere. I
didn't really see any botch snaps or anything like that.
I maybe the ball knowers will tell me that there
was pressure coming up his way the whole game.

Speaker 10 (20:46):
I haven't read that.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
That's not.

Speaker 8 (20:53):
But I I just much in the same line of
last week, I gave credit to Mapu from coming out
of nowhere and playing I'm going to give credit to
that kid fair enough his first NFL start. I would
I would agree with you saw enough botch snaps.

Speaker 4 (21:03):
There were a couple of snaps that looked funny, I
would say, but I didn't, like, you know, a couple
of double clutches. But I'm gonna sorry, Fred, I'm gonna
put that on May because I know, yeah, that one
was yeah how much?

Speaker 3 (21:15):
So I agree with you.

Speaker 10 (21:17):
I didn't he had like eight offensive plays to his
credit coming in.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (21:20):
Yeah, so that's you know, I don't know exactly how
well he played. He might have given up a few pressures,
but I mean all the sacks were from the edges
as they as they have been. And you know, Venerian
Low went out again and uh and another guy had
to step in, so it's you know, they're just getting
getting really killed on the offensive. Line this year.

Speaker 5 (21:35):
I brought up digs number one to get under your skin,
but number two to bring up Christian Gonzales.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
Okay, And I know it.

Speaker 5 (21:41):
Wasn't uh uh apples to apples comparison. And we don't
know what the coverages were. Were they playing man? Were
they you know, what were they doing? Were they showing
me in and going back into his own.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
Some of those big ones we were, man, Yeah, good
first drive there was like three in a row.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
Now not good enough.

Speaker 8 (21:57):
And I'd put Marcus Jones on Tank Dell right next
to him. I think both those guys, you know, those
Dell and Dickson, though.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
I thought Jonathan Jones struggled to I agree with you.
I thought the secondary as a whole was.

Speaker 8 (22:07):
And Jonathan Jones kind of in and out, in and out.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
Marco Marco Wilson was informed and in fairness, Marcus Jones
on the injury report this week with you know, with
the groin issue, so you know he's fighting hurt a
little bit, but just it wasn't good enough. It's a
good point. Maybe that's why they don't put him back
on kicks. Yeah, that's a good point, Mike about Marcus Jones.
But yeah, I agree. The secondary wasn't good enough today.

(22:30):
You know, you had no Nico Collins that should have
given you, you know, a.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
Leg up, and those other two guys were open all day, you.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
Know, and it wasn't huge numbers. But the reason it
wasn't huge numbers is because of the field position they
kept taking over in so you can only get to
the end zone.

Speaker 10 (22:45):
Right.

Speaker 5 (22:45):
You know, Mike, your other favorite player. I have a
feeling he's going to wind up on your bad list today.

Speaker 10 (22:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (22:52):
No, yeah, I just had.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
A tough, tough game bad drops.

Speaker 8 (22:55):
Ike was really mad at him, disappointed, disappointed.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
I had a different I had a different version of
my head press box. Well, it was kind of fun.
I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 12 (23:02):
No.

Speaker 8 (23:03):
I was a little fired out. I mean, look, you
know why because Drake May made me excited enough to care,
you know, and that's why, like, you know, when it's
Jacobe Prissette out there, and you know, this offense isn't
really something you're gonna build around, and you just want
guys to support the rookie quarterback and you're seeing right
here some of the you know, just surprising drops, uncharacteristics dry.
You know that that that's a play that Jalen Polk.

(23:23):
I've seen him catch you know, already a dozen times
in between training, camping and the early part of the.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
Season, but like, what is that that one at the end?

Speaker 8 (23:30):
I mean, just incredibly uh, you know, disappointing from him
again trying to support the rookie quarterback. I'm more than anything,
I'm surprised because I thought not to say that he
would have put up the same production that we got
out of Douglas today, but I would have expected a
similar kind of performance where he said, hey, this is
the guy I've been working with all summer. I'm gonna
support them. I'm sure Jalen Polk's probably in there feeling
sick right now himself for the way he plays.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Is it in his head?

Speaker 10 (23:52):
We'll see.

Speaker 8 (23:52):
I mean it's a rookie, it's you know.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
First, you might be fighting it a little bit.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
This is saying this is off the top of my head.
So I don't know if this is exactly right, but
it's close. I believe he was targeted four times to
say he had one catch, so that wasn't that wasn't
the part that was I think that that gives him
seventeen targets in the last three games and five catches. Yeah, yeah,
and then I mean I think he had three three
for seven against San Francisco, one for six last week

(24:17):
and one for four today. And there was another one
that he was targeted on that he didn't catch, that
was overturned for a penalty when the kid for Houston
got the hands to the face, so that doesn't count.
He was, you know, similarly blanketed on that play too,
So maybe he's you know, struggling a little bit. You know,
I know it's a little early for the rookie wall
kind of stuff, but no, but it's an it's because

(24:38):
I agree with Mike. Those catches that he dropped today,
those two passes, he literally caught every one of those
in training camp and so far, like that's what anything
he's gotten his hands on he's caught.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Yes, something that was a typical of him wondering.

Speaker 8 (24:50):
Kind of like narrative busting. Like it's like, you know,
you have this impression of a guy of all, right,
he's not going to be the downfield speed guy, but
like he's going to be a consistent hands guy, and
he hasn't been that the last week. He's got to
turn it around.

Speaker 13 (25:01):
They need him.

Speaker 10 (25:01):
Host, Matt, I do think that we need to devote
some time of this show just really breaking down May's day.
I mean, you know, really honestly.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
I have a feeling the next hour and going to
always first.

Speaker 5 (25:14):
The first thing I started the shoot, Boss Fred is
the lose forty one to twenty one.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
I don't think we're going to be talking about the game.

Speaker 10 (25:20):
No, I think I think this is we should really
talk about, you know, what we saw that we like,
what we saw that he needs to work on.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
So I bring up two other things.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
I think Fred's right, and I agree, and I'll just say,
like real quick, three third down penalties and like the
first fifteen minutes and four seconds on failed third downs,
three third down penalties on failed third downs for the defense.
Today you get a penalty on the opening kickoff by
the guy coming off of pup, you know, moving too soon,

(25:50):
see ony taki taki, just another day of sloppiness with penalties.

Speaker 10 (25:55):
Well you guys, you guys haven't heard the coach yet,
but wait till you hear him.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
Okay, good now that might excite that already heard me?

Speaker 10 (26:03):
Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, that might. Well I didn't
hear all of it, but I heard his opening remarks.

Speaker 8 (26:09):
Oh yeah, yeah, I don't know what he's doing with
the red cutoff hoodie too. That was just a throwback
to headache that.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
So we're the two things I just want to bring up.

Speaker 5 (26:17):
Is it kicking a guy when it's down. I'm not
saying that he has to has to be on the
list Austin Hooper, like a guy's just trying to make
a play too much, like you can't give it up there.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
No, it's just more sloppiness. It's a bad fumbles.

Speaker 5 (26:28):
Bad And I guess I'm gonna say maybe credit to
the Houston Advanced scouting staff, like they they wanted the
Patriots to feel the ball and kick returns, and you know.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
What they covered. They did a really good job.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
Believe they had one back to the thirty. Now, I
don't know if they do that all year. That's there,
that's their thing. They want to try to get you
inside the thirty. But that's the first game that I've
seen and I'm not talking about Patriots game. That's the
first game that I've seen that that's been the case.
A team went into the game and they said with
the game plan. We're going to kick it and make
them return it, and we're going to cover it every time. Yeah,
I have seen a game like that yet, and they

(27:01):
did and they did it really he got to the
thirty once. I think maybe the second kick of the game.
He got to the thirty. Every other one, I don't
know if it was hasty.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
Yeah, that's best return. That's the one that got to
the thirty. Yeah, that was it.

Speaker 5 (27:14):
He wiped out the gatorade bucket for somebody wiped out
the gatorade bucket.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
But every other one he was he had to. It
was hard pressed to get to the twenty five. Yeah,
their coverage was outstanding. Houston's coverage was excellent.

Speaker 5 (27:25):
Okay, so we've handled the good, we've handled the bad.
From an injury standpoint, it wasn't like last week. They
didn't come out clean. Low got Was it friendly fire
that got Darian Low.

Speaker 8 (27:34):
Just twisted up like you know in the past rush
he was on the ground. I actually know. I'm thinking
to Jordan, I'm sorry I didn't see. I didn't see
the Low and it was an ankle. But he's he's
been banged up a lot.

Speaker 5 (27:43):
It's unbelieve that guy.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
The same injury though, right, the ankle isn't that.

Speaker 8 (27:48):
Point and then he was back, Well that was a
couple of weeks and the oblique I think was a
couple of weeks ago. So he just you know, he
gets banged up a lot. I think that's what we're
kind of finding out with him. And as much as
they wanted that continuity came into this game. I mean,
I think we probably spent the first hour and a
half of the pregame show talking about, hey, they finally
had some off and then it was like, wait, Ben
Brown's at center, and then it was like, oh, Venerian

(28:08):
Lowe's out, and then you know, Michael Jordan went out briefly.
He did come back, which was a good Signmapu went
out with a neck which he was astute probably a stinger, yep,
which is always a.

Speaker 4 (28:18):
I ruled that a stinger from a far and I
believe I channeled my inner Brian Morey.

Speaker 10 (28:22):
Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
He's done. Right.

Speaker 5 (28:25):
What about did Gibson go out? He took a shot
along the sideline, so it never saw him again.

Speaker 10 (28:29):
He got he got.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
I think he may have.

Speaker 14 (28:33):
Mad.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
I don't think they never announced anything for him, but
there was a point where.

Speaker 10 (28:36):
All of a sudden beating today.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
I don't know if they just decided we don't need
to give him any more hits, or if he was
dealing with something because.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
He took it right. What did the thirteen for nineteen like?
He did not have a chance today.

Speaker 5 (28:52):
Okay, so we got through the good, the bad, and
the injured. Why don't we regroup and, as the Boss
Mean suggested, let's get into dissect and analyze Drake May
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Speaker 5 (32:55):
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(33:16):
as we said, I think we've pretty much discussed the game.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
Let's talk about Drake. May give me a stat line, please, sir?

Speaker 4 (33:21):
Yeah, like we like we said, mixed bag twenty for
thirty three two and forty three yards, three touchdowns, two
picks and a loss fumble. Now I would say how
many sacks?

Speaker 8 (33:34):
Hope, police, it was like four, maybe three or four.
It was all Hunter and his trend created.

Speaker 10 (33:40):
To be sure, tonight he will four sacks and he
ran for how many of yards?

Speaker 4 (33:44):
He did a good, great job with his legs. Five
for thirty eight yards with a long and fifteen So yeah,
he did a great job with his legs.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
A lot of stuff to like.

Speaker 4 (33:56):
From a stat line perspective, just you know, to put
it all into context, two hundred and forty three yards
blows away anything they did in the first five games
crossingep you know, they were averaging one hundred and nineteen
yards passing a game. Yeah, so twenty one points, that's
the high watermark. Twenty was the previous best against Seattle.

(34:19):
So some good, some bad. Forty one allowed is also
the high water mark, and a big part of the
reason for that of the four turnovers, three of which
were on May. So yeah, a lot of a lot
of good and a lot of bad, you know, which
is to be expected.

Speaker 5 (34:36):
Fred, Are you prepared to say after watching one game
that they've now gone from a team that did not
have a serviceable passing game. Do they have a serviceable
passing game now?

Speaker 10 (34:46):
No? Not until they fixed the.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Lots of line Okay, yeah, I agree with Freddy.

Speaker 10 (34:50):
But they have a serviceable passer, yes, and maybe even
more than that. Right, But in terms of the total game,
I mean, he's under siege every almost every play. You know,
toward the end of the first half, he wasn't because
you know, Jacksonville was not Jacksonville. Who were they playing today?

(35:11):
Houston was playing back a little bit. They weren't rushing
as many, and he had a little bit more time
and it showed. But you know, for the most part,
there's always somebody in his face. I think, you know,
he was a little flustered at times back there. I
think he needs to work on his pocket awareness. A
lot of times he's bouncing off guys like a pinball

(35:31):
back there, and sometimes he escapes, sometimes he didn't, but
you know, he his his pocket awareness of what's going
around him needs to be improved. His accuracy was off
at times, but again, you know that could be from
you know, you don't know when you're gonna help. Yeah, right, so,
but so that will improve. But the mobility, the arm strength,

(35:57):
the ability to extend plays, all that's stuff that we
were told was there. We saw glimpses of all of that,
and I think we saw glimpses of the future.

Speaker 5 (36:06):
I'm sure enough not smart enough Mike to really comment
accurately or with any kind of respectability on his footwork,
but that was a big topic of discussion draft after
the draft. In training camp, did you see anything in
his footwork that would make you think it's improved if
it wasn't very good or still needs work as far

(36:28):
as his footwork is concerned, I mean nothing to watch
the film, Matt, Yeah, I figured I knew that it
was got.

Speaker 8 (36:32):
To take to the tape for that one, but I
just echo, you know what Fred said. I think my
expectations this this was a little bit on like steroids.
Like I felt like, I'll throw a touchdown, but he's
gonna turn one over. I didn't expect like he's gonna
throw three touchdown. It's gonna have you know, four three turnovers,
you know, and some of the some of the balls,
like I talked about with him just being a little
sporadic and it's being high, and there were a couple

(36:54):
where I did feel like he had time and you know,
I don't know if it was specific to his footwork
or him you know, just being uncomfortable generally, but I
think he sprayed a couple that that were probably a
little bit easier than than he made him out to be.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
So that's a good you.

Speaker 5 (37:06):
Know, you talked about down in the pregame show. He said, geez,
the worst thing that could happen what you didn't want
to see Wash gift a pick to an opposing player.
I don't know that I would call this a gift,
but he certainly sailed that first interception where it looked
like the guy was open underneath and the ball just
sailed on roat, you know, and that might be nerves.

Speaker 10 (37:25):
Yep, you know, yeah, sure he had.

Speaker 4 (37:27):
As we saw this summer, he had a couple others
that got away and they went on. You know, there
was a crosser I think that Douglas. Douglas reached his
hand back and you're like, oh boy, because those are
the ones that get picked, yes, you know, and you
know that they fell. Yeah, there was there was a lot.
He sprayed it around. Yeah, he was all over the fairway.

Speaker 8 (37:43):
And like it's like you can throw a forty yard
dive that drops right into booty, but the throw bloody
was perfect ten yard crosser. It was a little you know,
so I just think that's youth, and you know he'll
he'll get those things is he gets more calm.

Speaker 10 (37:54):
So so here's the thing, here's the challenge to the
coaching staff right now.

Speaker 5 (37:58):
I wonder if it's the same one that I said,
fred Bie.

Speaker 10 (38:00):
Well, you got eleven games left? Do you coach? I'm
talking about the offense mostly, but do you coach the
games going forward to give the team the best chance
to win? Or do you coach the games to develop
your fa And those could be opposed?

Speaker 3 (38:15):
Actually, so how so explain that?

Speaker 1 (38:18):
So?

Speaker 10 (38:19):
Like, you know, like I want to see them run
an offense in plays that will test may that will
test his limits, that will see what he can do,
you know, and the results be damned. You know if
he has another game where he turns it over three
times and I don't care, but I want, I want
to I want to see play calling that you know,

(38:42):
accentuates the talents that we think he has.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
So where would you say, where would you put today's
play calling in that regard?

Speaker 3 (38:48):
Well, I thought they put more on his plate than
I was.

Speaker 10 (38:51):
Well no, but I think they got behind so early
that they had a throw. But what happens if it's close.
Do they keep it close.

Speaker 4 (38:58):
To And I know that a lot of people are
going to say on the opening drive, you know, so
Houston goes right down the field seven nothing to come out, run,
run third and long, you know, And and I get it,
like that's what they did, you know.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
But I thought for the most part they.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
Treated it like a regular He's just a regular quarterback,
not not a quarterback making his first start.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
I agree. I didn't see a lot of training wheels.

Speaker 10 (39:19):
I agree with that. But will they do that going forward?

Speaker 3 (39:22):
Yeah? Yeah, no, It's an interesting thing.

Speaker 5 (39:24):
We shall see because the one in five New England Patriots.

Speaker 10 (39:27):
Listen twelve and five is still on the table.

Speaker 8 (39:29):
There you go, Freddy, go to London.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
Quarterback. The question is, like.

Speaker 10 (39:34):
The question is how do they think they can get
those twelve wins?

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Speaker 17 (39:53):
Hey, there guys, just a couple of things I want
to kind of rattle off to you, I thought, Uh.
I thought the defense was terrible, especially on third down defense.
I understand they went four for eleven, but and in
situations where they really needed to stop two pass interppearance,

(40:14):
I thought was unnecessary.

Speaker 4 (40:15):
And you'd make a good point because those don't count
in the four for eleven. That's like six for old
you know what I mean? Those those are those are
conversions that don't count.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
The stats.

Speaker 17 (40:26):
Correct, And I just mean, yeah, you're you're right, I
mean either way, Like and then in situations where we
could have splash, should have had stops, I thought that
the cover would the coverage. We're terrible. Pass interferences were
super bad, I thought, Uh, I thought Drake May, I'm
definitely encouraged by the way he played. Obviously there were

(40:49):
some ups, there's some downs, but I thought, for the
most part, I'm encouraged by uh by what I saw.
I thought Antonio Gibson, it's kind of proved to me
that he was not And every down back I thought
his du cane driving to uh to keep it simple
was was discouraging. I'll say I was not encouraged at

(41:11):
all by the way he ran.

Speaker 10 (41:14):
UH.

Speaker 6 (41:15):
But but that's.

Speaker 17 (41:15):
Pretty much it. The note question just just just to
kind of a couple of things out, no questions, just
to come.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
Man, I don't think you've so much of it.

Speaker 5 (41:22):
Thank you, Cameron. I appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (41:24):
Pinballing up this up the middle and I thought he
was getting hit immediately.

Speaker 10 (41:29):
Yeah, and the one day they held him up low
and then another guy came high and he's just like
I thought he was going to break his back.

Speaker 5 (41:35):
Uh, let's go next to Nelson in Los Angeles. Nelson,
you're next on the Patriot's post game show? Are you excited?
Nelson after watching Drake May today, sirs.

Speaker 18 (41:46):
That means look at the light. That means we got
something going on. I should have started before we played
the Jets. He would have been better in this game.
I would have started three week ago week one.

Speaker 10 (41:57):
We would have won this game if he had started
week one.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
Well, we'll see.

Speaker 4 (42:02):
I think I think as long as he's healthy, he's
going to start the rest of them.

Speaker 10 (42:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (42:05):
Yeah, I think the actually potential on that guy. I
see a lot of potential that the other quarterback didn't have.
And one more thing, Oh do we do we drop that?

Speaker 10 (42:18):
We usually generally yeah, usually, you know, like when it
happens once we.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
Put him on probation, and yeah, you know they.

Speaker 10 (42:24):
Go by the way. By the way, you know, he
played the whole game. I think I looked at the injuries.
I think he's still alive, Drake May Do you think
he survived? I don't know.

Speaker 4 (42:37):
If I would, I would hold on your victory last.
So the injury report comes out next week. I don't
I'm going to tell you right now he going beyond it.

Speaker 10 (42:44):
I don't think he think so.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
Oh yeah, I don't.

Speaker 10 (42:46):
I don't think he's ruined.

Speaker 4 (42:48):
The ruins thing is where I jump on board. He
took a lot of big hits today, yeah, and he
was slow getting up a lot today.

Speaker 10 (42:57):
But there was one that.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
It's called football. If I'm with Fred's premise here.

Speaker 10 (43:02):
I mean we talked like we were sending him out,
you know, in World War One, to the front line
with a rifle and a banet. You know, it's like,
here you go, kid, fight the Germans.

Speaker 4 (43:11):
So this the play that Low gets hurt on as
well as he goes down, does he get on the
back right there, right right on Low's ankle?

Speaker 5 (43:19):
Could call there, Paul Hope, says Cynthia, who says yes,
we lost, but how many people thought we'd score twenty
one points? Imagine that that's now the barometer. I mean,
we were messing and we still had unnecessary penalties, capitol letters.
But there are things we can clean up. Drake made
moves with his legs.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
Pop.

Speaker 5 (43:35):
Douglas showed up. Remember this is a game we weren't
expected to do well and let alone win. We showed
up and we showed that we don't give up. We
can do better next game.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
I just want to.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
Caution, like the offense wasn't really any better today, like overall,
Like there were past plays that were better than anything
we've seen the offense, and I know that they all count.
And I said at the beginning of the show, I
think Mike, even before you came down, when Jacoby was
the quarterback, we didn't get garbage touchdowns at the end
of the game when the games were over.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
We got one today. Deal Like whatever. They didn't really
do much offensively for a long time in this game.

Speaker 8 (44:08):
No, I was just gonna highlight the touchdown throw in
the thirty five yard and it pop, which is you
just don't see those explosive plays around here. It's been
a long time since those.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
Are the plays on focus, you know, because we haven't
had any.

Speaker 8 (44:19):
Yeah, I know, that's what we were talking about. When
was the last time of forty yards in the air
pass and the into the end zone? I mean, I
don't know if we ever saw that, Mike.

Speaker 4 (44:25):
You and I like to talk about like, you know,
what can we what can we bring forward?

Speaker 3 (44:29):
What's sustainable?

Speaker 19 (44:30):
Right?

Speaker 9 (44:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (44:31):
Well, you know Drake May running around for a few
minutes looking like he's gonna run, then all of a
sudden stopping just before the line of scrimmage and finding
a wide open hunter Like that's probably not a play
that's going to happen a lot, but those are the
off platform plays that Drake May can make.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
That Jacobe Prissett cough platform.

Speaker 10 (44:48):
I love it.

Speaker 5 (44:48):
The future from Dean in Liverpool in the UK Wonderfield
be at the game next week. No, it wasn't perfect,
but it was filled with moments to give us optimism
moving forward. That Drake May is our future and we
should build the team around him. Imagine this kid with
protection and just one outstanding receiver. Drake May is the future,
so says Dean from Liverpool.

Speaker 4 (45:06):
I think you know what you're gonna need with all
of that, you need the protection. Fred talked about that
off the top, and I think Fred, you also mentioned
some weapons. You're also gonna need him to figure out
how to be accurate because you can't leave as many
completions on the field.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
As he did today. Okay, so that's gonna have to
be part of it too.

Speaker 5 (45:21):
So to Fred's point that he made earlier, can we
let him go through that this year and work on
the accuracy issues?

Speaker 3 (45:27):
I would be stunted better start the rest of the games.
Barring an injury, of course, but I.

Speaker 5 (45:32):
Think we're gonna be seeing accuracy issues and hopefully we're
going to see improvement as the year goes on.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
That's what you better hope for, really hope.

Speaker 10 (45:38):
So really, you know, I don't think there's any question,
barring injury, he's going to start every one of these games.
My question is how will they coach them. Will they
you know, we're a running team, you know, and and
go that way, or will they let this kid air
it out? You know?

Speaker 5 (45:54):
I mean, so well, I was just let's let's make
a couple of assumptions it's a winnable game next week.
Can we all agree on that Yeah, sure, sure, okay.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
Yeahs Sup's certainly winnable.

Speaker 5 (46:07):
Let's say that Stevenson comes back next week. What if
they find themselves in a low scoring game, like a
tractor pull thirteen ten thirteen doll game. You know, do
you owe it to them, to these guys who are
given their sweat and their tears, we got to win
the game.

Speaker 10 (46:21):
It's a fair question.

Speaker 5 (46:22):
It's a protect the game, don't turn it over.

Speaker 10 (46:24):
No, no, no, it's a fair question. Like That's why
I'm saying it's a tough thing because you know, like
there's a lot of other guys on this team too.
It's not just Drake Man. They want to win, Yeah,
they want to win.

Speaker 8 (46:36):
I just think that this offense for so long you
felt like they're dead in the water. If they get
down by two scores and just to see a couple
throws down the field, that makes you think that this
kid could lead an offense that has some explosive potential.
Like to me, that means so much in this NFL.
You cannot compete on the narrow road to victory that
we hammer year in and year out the last three

(46:57):
years about get down by fourteen dead Let's.

Speaker 10 (47:00):
Break down the picks.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
Was that for me? It was a great It was
a great mic. Just so rant I love it.

Speaker 10 (47:06):
Let's let's break down the picks.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
The first one was terrible.

Speaker 10 (47:09):
Yeah, he just both of them sailed it, both of them.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
The first one was terrible, the second one. You can't
have that pass.

Speaker 5 (47:15):
I mean yeah, yeah, he's gotta he's got to recognize it.

Speaker 10 (47:18):
Yeah, I blame that, you know, not downs at the
line on the quarterback.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
Yeah, well I also would blame I think it was Jacobs.
I think that needs to be a cut block.

Speaker 10 (47:28):
Yeah, I mean I'm not.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
Yeah, of Alonzo Stag's.

Speaker 8 (47:31):
Got good time and just sales.

Speaker 4 (47:32):
That's a terrible that that one's that one's a terrible
throat and he had others kind of like that.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
That landed harmlessly today.

Speaker 8 (47:40):
I love on the tackle though Paul wasn't thinking no Drake, no, no.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
No, the whole time, I no, get out of it,
get out.

Speaker 5 (47:45):
Of it, separates the shoulder on you know, bright future
from Houston. Drake may showed a lot of promise today.
Some issues to be sold, for sure, but maybe the
best rookie debut for a quarterback.

Speaker 3 (47:56):
In Pat's history.

Speaker 5 (47:58):
Very excited for what's to come, at least for the
off Like.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
What did we watch? What did I miss?

Speaker 6 (48:04):
Well?

Speaker 10 (48:04):
But first of all, was there better one? Better debut
by a quarterback rookie?

Speaker 3 (48:10):
Like, forget that it was they haven't had one in
a long long time, right, well years ago.

Speaker 10 (48:19):
Oh, I guess Mac mac Jones was a rookie. You
forget about it. I just I kind of watched.

Speaker 8 (48:26):
Do you remember first start?

Speaker 4 (48:28):
Yeah, I mean Bailey's happies first start was better than that.
I mean, I'm just saying it was right the T game.
I believe that was his first.

Speaker 10 (48:36):
No, it was Cleveland.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
Cleveland's even better, Right, Cleveland, it was even better. There
was like, you guys aren't going to do this to me.
You guys are going to go so over the top
and you're gonna get me to be negative. I don't
want to do it because I'm too excited about the
Booty throw, the Douglas throw, Like That's what I'm going
to focus on.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
But when it wasn't, the first.

Speaker 10 (48:58):
Dog was going to be good.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
You knew, all right, Paul just so he's like.

Speaker 4 (49:03):
Lovers, so so he needs the quarterback to make him good,
is what you're telling. Because he has never looked the
way he looked on that play.

Speaker 10 (49:09):
Ever, that's not true.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
He's never had a play like that.

Speaker 10 (49:13):
He had that great play in Dallas. That perception.

Speaker 8 (49:15):
I just give Will Anderson credit. I mean, it's he's
a good player. Huh, got deflected and what a cat.

Speaker 4 (49:20):
Can't No, it's an unbelievable the fact that it gets intercepted.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
It's not Drake May's fault.

Speaker 4 (49:24):
Like that's a great, great individual play. But I don't
even know who the guy is that picked it off.
But you can't get the ball batted down on those plays.
Like I'm with Fred Paul.

Speaker 5 (49:33):
Just to finish us up another topic that I know
you love. On another note, this is from Houston. Again,
the officiating was criminal today.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
It wouldn't have.

Speaker 5 (49:40):
Changed the up with the game by any means, but wow,
I was love speechless on a few of those calls,
non calls.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
Love the shows. Keep the cut.

Speaker 4 (49:45):
The face mask was an agreed that that was the.

Speaker 10 (49:50):
Other one.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
First it was a penalty.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
I thought it was like, now here's where I would
be upsetify with the Patriots. I thought the Patriots interfered
worse than later in the game, called Gonzales on on
Diggs at the corner of the end zone was more
contact and Mapool won. The deflected pick was more like,
I'd rather see those let go. But Fred's Fred called
it live. Fret's had a really strong season Live, okay.

(50:17):
Mapoo was on Schultz like, I think people think that
the call was on the back of the end zone
where a throw web. Now that's not where the call was.

Speaker 5 (50:24):
Another officiating question from Nick, and I said the same
thing live. But of course nobody's around me but me myself,
and I so like.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
You can't prove it.

Speaker 5 (50:31):
But Nick questions, there was a flag for legal formation
that we accepted after a third down stop.

Speaker 3 (50:37):
Actually it was, it was, but it was a completion
they had to take. They had to take the penalty.

Speaker 10 (50:43):
See what happened on the on the broadcast, is that
you saw the ref right by the play He called it.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
Out, yes, but the other guy.

Speaker 10 (50:53):
Ruled him and said it was Then they talked and
they ruled it a catch, so the Patriots had to
take the penal.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
Correct.

Speaker 5 (50:58):
So Nick finishes what I was thinking, Did we have
an option to decline? If so, is Mail outside out
of his mind? No, I never saw the referee on
the other side the same thing.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
Why why are we not just declining that let.

Speaker 10 (51:09):
Him kick right?

Speaker 4 (51:09):
So I actually had said something to Frank because I
figured that was going to be a topic on the
blog like that people were gonna because that's one of
those things that sometimes the TV doesn't pick it up right.
And you see it, and that guy came. The guy
came from the back and ran up and emphatically gave
it the catch signal if the problem.

Speaker 10 (51:26):
Was the play was just as emphatic saying and that
was funny.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
I think he was just pouting because he's the one
who called the penalty on the on the illegal shift.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
He caught it, But that doesn't matter now. I mean
that was that was confusing.

Speaker 6 (51:42):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (51:42):
David Maine writes an exciting loss, this word shouldn't be
in the same sentence.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
This is where I have to like, this is what
I mean. I'm gonna end up getting negative in a
place where I don't want to like. This was not
anywhere near as good as some of these people are
making it out to be.

Speaker 5 (51:56):
Right, Dave writes, I'm not a more victory guy again,
and that was often close to one. But this is
the best I felt after a loss, ever, very promising futurehead.
Three tds in your first game is pretty remarkable, really,
especially throwing to these characters. By the way, Matt looks
like a grown up Ralphie from a Christmas story.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
I haven't seen that movie, so just give him the
bunny is.

Speaker 8 (52:18):
You can't shoot your eye out with those glasses at least.

Speaker 5 (52:20):
Okay, Kevin from Nashville has been waiting patiently. You are
next on the Patriots postgame show.

Speaker 14 (52:25):
Kevin, Hello, I want to talk about the colossal mistake
that a certain ball the radio said this week.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
That would probably be me.

Speaker 14 (52:37):
It was, it was, it was one of your favorite
co hosts. But anyways, I think.

Speaker 4 (52:43):
Won you're not bold.

Speaker 14 (52:45):
I'm talking about masks. Anyways, the other.

Speaker 10 (52:50):
Show, I'm sorry, Kevin.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
Show starting mistakes loudly streaming.

Speaker 14 (52:58):
I don't see how that would be the case, because
he got some of his rookie jitters out. There's no
chance they're winning that game, for said, so he got
some good plays out. He got some terrible plays out,
like yeah, probably two terrible plays, double questionable plays. But
he has some good.

Speaker 10 (53:15):
Plays, oh, Kevin, Like mass isn't alone. There's a whole
you know, cottage industry of people right now saying that,
you know.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
How can they do it?

Speaker 10 (53:24):
You know, Orlovsky and and everybody they you know, like
I said, it's like they were sending this kid out
to the front lines in World War One.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (53:32):
Well, Orlovsky is not as much about gold as he is.
He just doesn't think he's ready. He thinks he has
a lot of developing.

Speaker 10 (53:38):
Okay, let's let's go. Let's get the development.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
The pearl clutches are all the local media like what
why not Miami?

Speaker 4 (53:46):
That was a winnable game, Like why is like the
chances to win the number one criteria that play.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
You've been pretty consistent, Paul. If he's ready playing, that's
what you've been saying.

Speaker 4 (53:57):
Now, I understand watching that game today, I understand why
they were patient.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
He's not ready. He's not. But like I'm telling you,
it's nukele loose.

Speaker 4 (54:06):
Do you remember like the scene when you know, you know,
like after the game and they're talking about him, like
they're they're going all over his stats, and it's like,
you know, fourteen strikeouts, new league record, thirteen walks. That's
what it was today. There was enough really good explosive
plays that you're like, this.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
Is what he does.

Speaker 4 (54:28):
You see him move around the pocket, he found Hunter
Henry and the bomb at the end of the half,
and then you see him just a routine throw over
the middle. It's like eight miles over the guy's head.
There was enough of those today too to understand why
they've been reluctant to play them.

Speaker 5 (54:42):
Duce, is this a fair question to ask? What's this
game look like?

Speaker 8 (54:46):
If Brisette played, Well, it's probably still fourteen nothing at halftime,
and you know, but maybe he doesn't turn it over early,
and you know, it's probably like a twenty eight to nothing,
right then instead of it.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
I think it might twenty one. I disagree.

Speaker 4 (54:58):
I think it would have been like, you know, like
a lower scoring game that they lost by like ten, right.

Speaker 8 (55:03):
Well maybe yeah, but I mean they got with no
not at all.

Speaker 4 (55:09):
Right, chances of winning were the same, right, I totally agree,
But I think they might have lost like twenty four
to fourteen.

Speaker 10 (55:15):
You're not giving them points.

Speaker 4 (55:17):
Yeah, you know, there's you know, it's hard to imagine.
Was it the second touchdown drive? Yeah, the one the
Hunter Henry that was almost all passes, right, Yes, although
that that's the one that had the there was a
lot going on. Scramble, A scramble throw for the big
chunk to Hunter Henry. I think happened on the drive
that eventually ended with a Henry touchdown. There's no way

(55:37):
that percent eats that touchdown drive, zero point zero, No way.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
That would be.

Speaker 8 (55:41):
My only pushback is like I feel like on each
of their scoring drives something happened that you probably wouldn't
have seen out of presette, you know, Like I just
I don't know where the points would have He's not
throwing that forty yard.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
Touchdown in twenty five.

Speaker 4 (55:51):
Of the points that Houston got wouldn't have happened if
per sent it plays. And that's like, that's what I'm saying.
It would have been a low scoring closer game that
they similarly, as Fred said, had no chance to win.

Speaker 10 (56:01):
And that's the thing. Are you willing to give the
other team points in order to develop this kid? Right?

Speaker 8 (56:06):
I think that's that's that's a good way to put it.
I mean, that's that is really it.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
I just sacrificed today right for a benefit.

Speaker 10 (56:13):
Tool, and I would think most fans who want that
high draft pick would be all in on that.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
Sign me a question to watch today's game over any of.

Speaker 10 (56:21):
The question is is the locker room going to be
in on that?

Speaker 5 (56:24):
Well, that's a good question, I think.

Speaker 8 (56:25):
So I think the locker room is going to be
like we are here and you know, they're going to
take the positives, and you know, I also just I
think it's a kid that got beat up out there,
and they like, if I'm Jalen Polk, I'm like, damn,
I didn't do my part to help my guy today.

Speaker 9 (56:36):
You know.

Speaker 8 (56:36):
If I'm the offensive line, I'm saying, we got that
kid killed. Like, no, disrespected Jacoby Brissette, but like he's
a veteran, he's tough, he's big, he can handle it.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
That's why we got him.

Speaker 8 (56:44):
And now it's come on, guys.

Speaker 10 (56:47):
That was that was kind of my hope today. You know,
before you know, Ben Brown came in, but my hope
was like, you know, whoever it was, Scott Peters or
Van Pelt or or Girodmeo, you know, gave them the
you know, the offensive line that like, you know, damn it,
no matter what happens, you know, And that's what Parcells did.

(57:08):
When Bledsoe came in, he he got in front of
the line. He said, I don't care what you have
to do, do not let them touch this guy. And
I think you know, and the works. But he had
better players.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
He never he never really got sacked in his career
when that wouldn't have happened.

Speaker 5 (57:23):
But now you have you remember that play we got
turned down by Bruce Smith.

Speaker 4 (57:28):
Yeah, he got sacked like eighteen times or something like
that as a rookie. They got sacked eighteen times last week.

Speaker 8 (57:33):
No, I don't, but now you have these plays to
point to and say, if we protect him, this is
what this kid is capable of.

Speaker 10 (57:38):
Listen, there's plenty of film for the maid to watch
and learn from this game.

Speaker 8 (57:43):
That's the thing that was funny about Houston countering and
scoring a lot quick. It was like he's back on
the field to get like he got a lot of
extra plays just because the defense, you know, allowed some
of those scoring.

Speaker 4 (57:53):
It's like the fifty four yard touchdown back the don.

Speaker 10 (57:57):
Just want to I want to know that. What did
I say when they had that offensive penalty on first
down in Mega first at least they got another.

Speaker 8 (58:06):
Place just accelerate the process.

Speaker 5 (58:10):
Chain lawyers, we changed Channon at Lanta rights sigh, it
is what it is. Drake played well. At the same time,
the defense was missing too many pieces to overcome the
short fields that they were having to defend. The penalties
once again played too much of a factor. Forty one
points is unacceptable, but he is also understandable.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
All things considered.

Speaker 5 (58:30):
I think a little bit of Chad's all over the place.

Speaker 4 (58:33):
Because I think they're ignoring the why they were on
so many short fields.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
Correct, and they.

Speaker 4 (58:38):
Were on short fields because of turnovers by Drake May
Like those are like you have to evaluate everything. You
can say for his first start, there was a lot
to be excited about, but you can't say that was
a good performance, no, Like based on the NFL average, Yeah,
you know, but I put.

Speaker 10 (58:55):
Them on the good list. I didn't say, yeah, it's.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
Different, and I like agree with bred. Like if this
was Derek Carr, like, you know, that's why he stakes,
you would say that's why he stanks.

Speaker 8 (59:06):
But he was a tease right, Plus that punt return
early five George five times Houston took over in Patriots territory.

Speaker 3 (59:14):
Five Yes, right.

Speaker 5 (59:15):
Poor punt, poor poor punt covered his worst game today.

Speaker 3 (59:19):
Yeah, and he had a couple of ones.

Speaker 5 (59:22):
All I know I've been harping on this. The golden
age of punchs continues. Houston's got a weapon.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
Huh? That kid was the first one? Was good? Then?

Speaker 6 (59:31):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (59:31):
I think his hangtime was over five at least one
of them, towering one.

Speaker 4 (59:36):
Shanked one out of bounds and in the second one
gave up some field position there.

Speaker 5 (59:41):
Alex from Raleigh, North Carolina rights may can play, showed
some flashes. Hard for him to do much with defensive
lineman in the backfield office often he can move, he
can make good throws. Do you all wish he'd started
from week one?

Speaker 3 (59:53):
Get those? I wish he had started. I wish he
started one.

Speaker 5 (59:57):
But that's not Revision's history, right, Like, do you really
pull the tape and.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
Listen to that? Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:00:02):
Yeah, Do you really think that he's that much better?
He would have been that much better now in week
six than he would have been week one. Like, no, no,
I so start in week one, right.

Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
I'm with the panel on the optimism with Drake May
I predicted this offseason our first draft pick will be
an offensive line and I don't think Vegas would touch
that one.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
Correct, Yeah, it certainly seems that way.

Speaker 8 (01:00:24):
I mean, you'll, you'll, you'll get some sense next week
against Jacksonville where.

Speaker 19 (01:00:27):
They're going to be picking him.

Speaker 5 (01:00:28):
I was saying something, boy, that's a tough one. In
week seven, I said something to Tamara as we're watching
the final seconds of this game, and I said, you know,
call me old fashioned, but the game is built on,
you know, blocking and tackling in their offensive line and
their defensive.

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
Line leave a lot to be desired.

Speaker 5 (01:00:46):
And that's why all the will the old school built
from the inside out.

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
And you can certainly see.

Speaker 10 (01:00:51):
Hey, by the way, what's the news on barb where
everyone's saying, oh, looks like we'll be getting him back
sooner than later.

Speaker 8 (01:00:56):
He tweeted an hour glass.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
No so well.

Speaker 4 (01:00:59):
On Friday, Mayo was asked about it, and I believe
the question was posed similar to this, would you say
that it's fair to suggest that you think there's a
better chance that he could return this year than you
did a month ago? When he said, I think that's fair. Okay,
so you might get a chance to see him back
at some point before.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
The season's over, I would say, based on what your
odd said.

Speaker 8 (01:01:22):
On Friday, okay, I just say along those lines too, defensively,
and I was just a little disappointed to kind of
see them back in the Tavai inside McMillan inside, you know,
Mapu was more in this kind of just primary safety.

Speaker 4 (01:01:33):
He was flat Yeah, he was flat out safety today,
you know, for the most part with Duggar and then
he was in and out.

Speaker 8 (01:01:38):
I just didn't I didn't love it. I didn't love it.
I think they got to find something new, something new
with those guys.

Speaker 5 (01:01:44):
Speaking of which, David from Madrid, Spain rights, I'm very
concerned about the problem the defense is having stopping the run.
Last week they get a TV bit just they got
a touchdown by just running, and now they give the
Texans one hundred and ninety two yards rushing. With Mixon,
who just came back from injury, it was nice to
see him get some your to the year, but there
still aren't enough third down conversions for this team. Let's
hope that that gets better.

Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:02:06):
I thought there were times when the run defense was
better today, but the numbers are what they are and
too many big plays.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
Yeah, it's got to be better.

Speaker 4 (01:02:15):
You can't allow two hundred yards rushing back to back weeks.

Speaker 5 (01:02:18):
Matt Morrell, yay, or nay on the HC we do.
And so as we were talking a lot about the
Patriots defense, Fred teased it earlier, but let's go to
the head coach who was not happy with the team's
defense when they met the media.

Speaker 6 (01:02:34):
You know, the penalties in the first half, just too many.

Speaker 20 (01:02:37):
It's the same story over and over again that four turnovers,
three or four turnovers in the game.

Speaker 6 (01:02:43):
Can't win if you lose that battle.

Speaker 20 (01:02:46):
Defensively, I would say just the fundamentals of just tackling
our run.

Speaker 6 (01:02:50):
Fits have to improve. They have to improve.

Speaker 20 (01:02:52):
And I told all those guys, I said, you should
feel like crap today. You should feel like crap. You
take away those two long runs. We had two runs
over fifty yard and so I mean, it's just not
winning football offensively. I thought they did some things that
were encouraging. Obviously still not enough the turnovers. One was
on a tip ball, but that's the way the league is.

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I thought Drake made some good decisions out there. I
thought he had some good reads. I thought he tried
to get the ball out of his hands. I thought
he did a good job extending players with his legs
and picking up first downs.

Speaker 6 (01:03:26):
So just got to be better fire.

Speaker 21 (01:03:29):
Away Gerard on on Drake, is that kind of what
you hoped you would see as far as some of
the things that he was able to do and kind
of did you have that little bit of okay that
forty yard dropping the bucket pass to Kaishawn that cuts
you guys back into the game to end the half.

Speaker 20 (01:03:47):
Yeah, and look, we fully anticipate or expect him to
be better going forward. You know, it was his first start.
Obviously here at home. There was a lot of expectations
on him. I thought he handled it well, so got
a build on him. I thought he showed a lot

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of I thought he showed a lot of boys. I
thought he went out there and controlled the huddle, got
those guys out of the huddle, and.

Speaker 6 (01:04:14):
Once again made some place.

Speaker 20 (01:04:16):
And it's definitely encouraging, you know, as you know, from
a team wide perspective, right now, we're just we're gonna
we let him down. You know, it was his first
game and I feel like I let him down. I'm
sure all the coaches feel like we let everyone down,
and it's got to be better.

Speaker 22 (01:04:31):
Throughout the first few games, you've emphasized the passing game
as something that needs to improve today, I felt like
we saw the receivers getting a little more involved. Just
what would you say to the passing game today, specifically
as it relates.

Speaker 10 (01:04:42):
To Drake May.

Speaker 20 (01:04:43):
Yeah, I would say, first, there were some good pockets.
Let's start with upfront. I thought the offensive line at
times definitely had some good pockets to allow the quarterback
to make those throws. But once again, it's a team
wide sport, and we don't feel very good about anything.

Speaker 7 (01:04:58):
Right now, Gerard, with the offensive line, the left side
going down with Vederian and Michael, how tough is it
right now to keep a cohesive unit together with how
far down the depth chart you guys are at that spot.

Speaker 20 (01:05:10):
It's very tough. And you know, every single week is
a different combination of players. It's tough to get in.
You know, it's tough for those guys to really build
that camaraderie or that communication.

Speaker 9 (01:05:20):
Uh.

Speaker 20 (01:05:20):
But again, like the the backup players, they have to
prepare like their starters every week. And uh, we'll see
how we came out of this game, but you know,
it's definitely definitely an issue for us.

Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
Drid.

Speaker 12 (01:05:31):
You mentioned the penalties from a coaching staff standpoint, What
can you do on your end to get those numbers down.

Speaker 20 (01:05:39):
Look, we talk about it all the time, and and
you know, Saturday night meetings, we talk about what crew
is gonna be out there.

Speaker 6 (01:05:46):
Uh, you know how.

Speaker 20 (01:05:46):
Frequ what do they call frequently? And we knew that
this crew is gonna, you know, a high penalty calling crew.
I thought the second half kind of cleaned it up
a little bit, but there's way too many penalties in
the game.

Speaker 23 (01:05:59):
Right girod A couple questions ago, you said that you,
along with the players and so on, the coaching staff,
let Drake down? Could you be more sport What you
meant by that not.

Speaker 20 (01:06:12):
Really a coaching staff. Look, we're all I mean, we
feel like crap right now. And I would say, just
for a rookie quarterback to go out there and do
some good things, you know, do some good things. I
just felt like, you know, we could have did a
better job supporting Pop.

Speaker 13 (01:06:27):
Douglas had ninety two receiving yards, most you guys have
had in more than a year. He seemed to come
off the field when you go to those two receiver sets.
Do you think he can function in those? There's a
way to get him the ball more often.

Speaker 6 (01:06:37):
Yeah. Absolutely.

Speaker 20 (01:06:38):
You know, Pop, he's one of our best receivers. He
can get open against anyone, and you know, those are
definitely things we got to consider.

Speaker 24 (01:06:46):
Drod, how do you evaluate Drake's decision making today in
terms of reads, making sure that they avoided the rush,
et cetera.

Speaker 20 (01:06:53):
His reads were good all day. I thought his reads
were good. I watched the film, obviously, but I thought
he did a good job.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
Kean roach.

Speaker 25 (01:07:04):
You talked about the defense the first two drives of
the game where they came right down the field, school,
right down the field score. How disappointing was that from
your perspective? And I think the one hundred and ninety
two yards on the ground and what do you do
to get going in the right direction there.

Speaker 6 (01:07:16):
It's very disappointing.

Speaker 20 (01:07:17):
And I would say, now at this time, we're kind
of up and down as far as starting fast, and
we have to start fast, whether we're on defense or offense,
and we just we just didn't do that today.

Speaker 6 (01:07:27):
I thought they did settle down.

Speaker 20 (01:07:29):
But again it goes back to every single play being important,
and you could stop them, stop them, stop him, and
then all of a sudden, it's a fifty yard run.

Speaker 6 (01:07:37):
Like we can't live in that world.

Speaker 26 (01:07:38):
Your final question, hege rud over here. You're right in
terms of play calling for Drake. Did you feel like
on offense you guys did what you could to help
him get settled in? Was it sort of how you
planned or scripted or did things evolve differently?

Speaker 9 (01:07:54):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:07:54):
Absolutely.

Speaker 20 (01:07:55):
You know, we talked about the first fift team as
we always do, and that was to get him settled in.
And once again, look he's a rookie making his first start.
Will there be things that didn't go right for him?

Speaker 6 (01:08:06):
Yeah? Absolutely, but I thought I thought the way we
planned that out was good.

Speaker 27 (01:08:12):
I don't know how many interactions you had with Drake
during the game, but how did you see him react
to some of the physical punishment he took throughout?

Speaker 20 (01:08:19):
Yeah, he took some big hits and you know, slow
to get up after a couple of those. But he's
a tough guy and I was encouraged by that.

Speaker 5 (01:08:27):
Thanks there was a head coach, Gerard Mayo. I was
encouraged by his opening monologue. I like to hear it
because we've discussed it a couple of different times here.
You know, where do you separate winning the game versus
development of the quarterback. The fan base is obviously jacked
up and excited about to play the quarterback because they
see hope the head coach.

Speaker 3 (01:08:47):
Is pissed and I like to see that.

Speaker 10 (01:08:49):
What are you going to do about it?

Speaker 5 (01:08:50):
Well, he's he's got very limited options, very limited options.

Speaker 8 (01:08:54):
They just got to play better. I mean that's there's
no single wand you can wave with these guys. And
I mean, unfortunately with the personnel that they're that they're
rolling out there, they just there's no well, there's no depth,
there's nothing to really tap to change. So I don't
know they got They're gonna have to. They're gonna have
struggles against the better teams with this defense this year.
It's just kind of a fact of matter. Maybe Barbore
comes back and gives them a little bit of a boost,

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But I think Bentley's done that though, right, No, No,
not at all. And I think you know, Bentley is
is maybe the biggest piece of that. And you know,
not to say that he would fix everything, but him
in the middle, everything he brings in the middle of
the tackling. I just think that's the biggest piece right
now that they're missing on this defense and that, and
that's just counting the guys that they started the year with.
I think they've got, you know, a ways to go
next year to get you know, more personnel to build

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this defense up.

Speaker 5 (01:09:36):
And you could just judge him by the tremendous amount
of churning they're doing and the practice squad on the
roster where there's different defensive linemen picked up, dropped it everything.
It's like, get him out of here, let's try something else.
They're trying. But it's not like, you know, Reggie White's
not available on waivers, you know, so these guys are

(01:09:57):
available for a reason. And do they see a spark
something that they're coaching staff can maybe get that it's
gonna be a slight improvement over what they had.

Speaker 8 (01:10:05):
I don't know if it's a direct straight line to it,
but I would look at the first couple drives where
they couldn't get a stop and they're just you know,
C J. Strouz just like, well, I got, you know,
And then you started to see a little bit of
pressure and a little key on White and then all
of a sudden they started getting stops and then those
dry up.

Speaker 4 (01:10:18):
I mean, well they started blitzing a little bit, and
then when Tunssel went out, I do I do think
it they got more pressure when they took advantage of that.
But I liked the There was a one third down
that I loved with the Christian Ellis and Mapu on
a blitz, like you know, just doing something a little
bit different. There was another one later that it wasn't

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a blitz per se, but they had, you know, one
of those old time Belichick kind of rushes with five guys,
but they were dropping different guys and rushing different guys.

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
And don't know who's coming, and they confused them.

Speaker 4 (01:10:52):
So I did think that they did some things as
that you know, this is a good play right here
with you know, you get two guys, you send and
they get they get home. That I believe that was
a third down too.

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
That's the only way to getting pressure is by doing
stuff pressure.

Speaker 4 (01:11:04):
That's what you need to do, Like you need to
figure out like you know, we've Mike and I have
talked about this a million times.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
Like they don't have a lot of guys.

Speaker 4 (01:11:10):
They traded Jude on Barber's out, They don't have a
lot of guys that are gonna win one on one matchups.

Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
So that's what you have to do to get pressure.

Speaker 4 (01:11:17):
And they didn't get a lot today. But I do
think at time, you know, this is a play that
you know why it affects that pass, you know, and
that's that that leads to an incomplete.

Speaker 3 (01:11:26):
Pass on a third down. That those are the plays
they need more of those.

Speaker 8 (01:11:29):
Yeah, that's right to your point. I mean, Kristen Ella's
probably coming in this year special teamer, you know, blitzing
a special team or on defense.

Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
You know how many snaps does he play today? You
shall have it in the morning.

Speaker 5 (01:11:38):
But he played a lot, played more than I think
the coaching staff would.

Speaker 8 (01:11:40):
Has been one of their He's been one of their
third down covers, linebackers. I mean ever since they lost that.

Speaker 5 (01:11:44):
Correct let's see the TPX spot line is eight five
to five Pats five hundred. Eldred in North Carolina has
been waiting patiently. You're next on the Patriots post game show.

Speaker 10 (01:11:52):
Eldred.

Speaker 28 (01:11:52):
Hello, hey.

Speaker 29 (01:11:56):
Man, Okay, looting courage back. Yeah, I made it to defense.
But it's like what I saw in North Carolina. He's
good fat, it's the short step, but he got his
feet sick. If he's trying to do things, you know,
But Fred, I'm with you. Let him play, darn it.

(01:12:16):
If he makes mistake, learn from him. Just let it.
Just take your stringing wheel off. I didn't like to
last two minutes.

Speaker 10 (01:12:24):
Well, they didn't want to. Like it's I don't know.
Some coaches would say that's kind of like bad sportsmanship,
Like you're out of the game and you're still throwing
the ball and you know, okay, so should we blitz
your guy and bury him?

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
You know, I disagree. Like they were trying too.

Speaker 10 (01:12:44):
They were running it on first and second down.

Speaker 4 (01:12:47):
They were in the ball twice on that last drive.
The rest of we're all passes deep incomplete deep to Douglas,
short right to Douglas for six yards incomplete short left
throw away. I know that was the player that he
just kind of like threw it like that underhand. And
the last play was a pass to Polk that converted.
That was a third down play. Like I'm with Fred,

(01:13:08):
like I don't want to get him take him unnecessarily
hits in a game that's that's long since decided.

Speaker 5 (01:13:13):
Thank you for the call, Eldred in that and let's
live for another day. I mean the game's out of
hand at that point in time. Let's move on Tony
from Canada.

Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
Your next Uh hit the wrong button. I think that's
my bad.

Speaker 10 (01:13:26):
Canada, call back again if you would please.

Speaker 3 (01:13:29):
You're next on the Patriots post game.

Speaker 30 (01:13:33):
Saw flame Canada.

Speaker 5 (01:13:41):
Oh that okay.

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
What do you got pat?

Speaker 30 (01:13:47):
No, that was just that was me. I just gotta
ask one question about Drake Bay's performance, Like, do you
think when he came out of the draft, like the
big thing about him, like a huge selling point was
he was probably the best quarterback in the draft going

(01:14:07):
over the mill. But do you think, like when they
structure their first and second down offense that still have
more passes designed to go over the middle, where he's
probably a lot better in that situation than going to
the sideline.

Speaker 4 (01:14:21):
Didn't do the vast majority of the throwers go Thanks
for the COVID the middle today.

Speaker 8 (01:14:25):
I thought, so Patty might be drunk. So I'm just
gonna come.

Speaker 4 (01:14:28):
That's always there's always a possibility. Yeah, no, I know what,
but I know what Pat's talking about. I mean, he
is considered to be very accurate, uh down the middle.
I thought they tried a lot of passes, a lot
of crossing routes.

Speaker 3 (01:14:41):
Yes, you know. Yeah. Some of them were really good,
like the touchdown a Douglas, and some of them were
really bad. Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:14:48):
I mean that other one where you said Paul Douglas
had to reach back and catch it. Had that one
been in front, that might have been.

Speaker 4 (01:14:54):
I was talking about one that reached back and bounced
off his hands up into the air.

Speaker 10 (01:14:58):
But there was another pass like where he actually caught it.
But if that pass had been in front, he's heading today.

Speaker 8 (01:15:04):
I'm talking about Freddy. I mean, and I mean need
so long. Those kinds of places, the ground off the shoelaces,
these are.

Speaker 4 (01:15:10):
All over the middle. These are these are the passes
that we're talking about.

Speaker 5 (01:15:13):
Those are the ones where I think they're gonna you know,
he's got to drill down on it because he's got
those balls. Yeah, you know, fred This is for you.
I'm going to butcher this. This is from anakin from Tach.
What's the tatoo? Very good? Thank you, hello, Jens. Yes,
the outcome was bad. However, this was the most normal
and efficient the offenses looked all season, even though it

(01:15:34):
was inconsistent. May did as well as expected for his
first start. There is a ton to be hopeful for.

Speaker 8 (01:15:39):
Well, what's just kind of a hothead to be honest.

Speaker 5 (01:15:43):
What's the story of the week, Then, what's it going
to be going forward? There's a ton to be hopeful for,
or there's going to be the.

Speaker 3 (01:15:48):
Story of the week. The story will be how how
I give myself the wonders? Tuesday at noon, now, right.

Speaker 8 (01:15:55):
That's when we pushed Paul into the corner of like.

Speaker 10 (01:15:57):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:57):
I hate him. He's not not going to do it
to me about me.

Speaker 10 (01:16:02):
It's the thing about Paul. If all the fans were
really really upset today, would.

Speaker 4 (01:16:10):
I'll give you an example, Like someone tweeted Evan at
the half ripping May for his footwork on the touchdown
pass to Booty, Like I think that's absurd. I think
that is absolutely absurd.

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
Like I started the whole, the whole they thought his
footwork was bad.

Speaker 10 (01:16:29):
On that guy. The guy that emailed Evan was TC McCartney.
But that's beside.

Speaker 3 (01:16:36):
That's good.

Speaker 4 (01:16:38):
But I I spent, like you know what, Matt and
I came down, we opened the show and we both agreed,
like there's a lot to be excited about, but like
we're getting lost in this like efficiency with the offense that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:51):
Didn't happen today.

Speaker 4 (01:16:53):
It didn't, but they made some big plays on in
the passing game that they haven't made. They had over
a hunt undred more yards passing today than they average
in the first five games.

Speaker 3 (01:17:03):
Like that happened.

Speaker 4 (01:17:04):
Yeah, Like there were enough things that were better today
to accentuate without making other stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:17:09):
Up and the bad would you call that progress.

Speaker 3 (01:17:13):
In some areas? Yeah, they couldn't run the ball worth
of damn correct.

Speaker 10 (01:17:16):
And the bad things they can go to the film
and they can show MEY say, seem Drake, this is
what we're talking about. This is the stuff we've been
trying to work with you. But now he's doing it
in live action. You'll learn faster.

Speaker 4 (01:17:27):
And I promise that there were also enough plays that
like just sort of unfolded and the throws were just bad.

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
Like, there were enough of those today too. I think people.

Speaker 4 (01:17:36):
Are just ignoring those, all right, so they're only talking
about the good ones.

Speaker 3 (01:17:39):
I can't believe it.

Speaker 5 (01:17:40):
Took me this long to think of this question for you.
But just listen to your voice here for a second.

Speaker 3 (01:17:43):
Are you pissed?

Speaker 5 (01:17:44):
Do you think that they wasted five games? I'm not pissed,
you know, but I yes, I don't see why they
didn't start him earlier. Okay, yeah, that's just me.

Speaker 10 (01:17:57):
But again, we you know, we talk about this. We've
been talking about this in September on unfiltered. We don't
know what the coaches know, Like maybe you know, this
week he was light years better than he you know,
light years more ready than he was Week one for
some reason like whatever. They've been working with him in
the classroom and maybe in week one, like he had

(01:18:18):
absolutely no clue we have we don't know that. I
doubt it, but it's a possibility, so I'm not That's
why I'm not pissed.

Speaker 4 (01:18:26):
So I know that this is this is an unfair
hypothetical because it's you know, it's impossible. If you if
he played exactly the way he did today all of
the other games, the first five games, what do you
think the record would be.

Speaker 10 (01:18:43):
If he played exactly the way he played today all
those games, I think the record they'd be lucky to
be one in five.

Speaker 4 (01:18:49):
Yeah, okay, so that's that's what I think too, And
I know that's unfair because I mean, it would stand.

Speaker 10 (01:18:56):
But all those other games, they didn't have the turnal.

Speaker 4 (01:18:58):
They were minus three in Eternal, right, Yes, I think
two and four would be out of the question.

Speaker 10 (01:19:02):
That's why.

Speaker 3 (01:19:03):
But I would say, like, you know, to be fair.

Speaker 4 (01:19:05):
That's why I said it's an unfair hypothetical because anybody
could rightly expect the guy playing in his first game
is going to be better in his fifth and sixth game, right, Like,
that's just natural.

Speaker 3 (01:19:17):
Progressive hope, you hope.

Speaker 4 (01:19:19):
Yeah, Now, some guys don't get better, but you hope
that this guy will get better. It won't turn the
ball over three times five straight games.

Speaker 3 (01:19:27):
If that happens.

Speaker 4 (01:19:28):
Something tells me when we're doing the postgame show after
the fifth straight game of three turnovers, it's gonna be
a little bit of a different tune, right right right.

Speaker 5 (01:19:36):
Harry and Connecticut says that it is within reach. At
times this game seemed winnable.

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
That's a stretch. This game was not winnable from the
first two drives.

Speaker 10 (01:19:45):
It was one moment when it what was it twenty
one to fourteen, where like did make a stop here
and they didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:19:54):
It wasn't ever that it wasn't there was fourteen seven.
They immediately made it was twenty one seven. Then twenty
four to seven.

Speaker 8 (01:20:01):
You had to come out in the third quarter score
and play perch.

Speaker 10 (01:20:04):
It was twenty seven to fourteen at one point.

Speaker 4 (01:20:07):
Yeah, they scored to make it twenty seven fourteen. It
was twenty seven seven, No.

Speaker 10 (01:20:11):
I know.

Speaker 3 (01:20:11):
And the only time that it flickered went out the
window on the second player of the first second half. Right, yeah,
that was it, you get it was fourteen seven to
get the ball or maybe, like I never thought that
game was in doubt. Once Houston scored twice, bang bang,
fourteen nothing, game was over right, and Houston thought it too,
And then they had to go in the locker room
probably got bitched at by their coach and said, you know,

(01:20:33):
in this league, you have to play four quarters. They
came out and put the game away in the third quarter,
just to.

Speaker 5 (01:20:37):
Finish what Harry had to say. I'm happy with May's
performance today with the service of quarterback play, I hope
he's more than the service of Well that's me saying
that it allows the Patriots to better analyze the holes.

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
On this team, don't they know?

Speaker 5 (01:20:48):
I mean, I don't think you need to be amos
Alonzo Stag to analyze the holes on this team.

Speaker 10 (01:20:51):
Do you No, but I see what he's saying. If
you have a guy who can actually running run a
passing offense, yes you can have a little bit better
evaluation of Booty and the guy Paul doesn't pop, Doug.

Speaker 3 (01:21:08):
Don't do that.

Speaker 4 (01:21:09):
Mike had it right though, Like, if you can be
like all the other teams and have as semblance of
a passing this is how you need to twenty fight
in the modern NFL. Mike is right, Like, that's what
I come away saying. We can be like everybody else.

Speaker 3 (01:21:21):
Now we don't have to throw for one hundred and
twenty yards and try to win and hope the other
team pukes on itself so we can win, right.

Speaker 8 (01:21:28):
Paul, I thought it was funny too.

Speaker 3 (01:21:29):
This game.

Speaker 8 (01:21:29):
We haven't really talked about it. So this is kind
of Paul's anti game with the rushing attack, because it
was he dide a pretty good job, but like Houston
just gashed him for a couple of big scoring plays.

Speaker 3 (01:21:37):
You know, But Mike, you're smart enough to know why
did Houston win the game?

Speaker 4 (01:21:40):
What did they do early in the game, how they
did they established the run or did they just throw
the balls at the bands?

Speaker 9 (01:21:45):
Right?

Speaker 6 (01:21:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:21:45):
Yeah, three touchdown passes don't boom.

Speaker 5 (01:21:47):
And the broadcasters, at least at the beginning of the
game were crediting the patriots ren defense, which wasn't terrible
out of the shoot when it was fourteen and f thing.

Speaker 4 (01:21:55):
I'd actually credit those random runs that Houston kept having
for the reason why it's that it's twenty eight.

Speaker 3 (01:22:01):
Nothing like Mike and I caught a score. I don't
like it kept a scoring out.

Speaker 4 (01:22:05):
Yeah, they kept giving the Patriots chances to get off
the field by running a couple of times and setting
up third downs.

Speaker 5 (01:22:10):
Finlay in Scotland writes, despite the blowout, I actually came
away excited because we have a quarterback that potentially can
compete at the modern NFL level. I love that Paul
come on. I in my brain saying they shouldn't be
on the good or bad list, But Fred is my
heart saying we.

Speaker 3 (01:22:25):
Got our guy. All in Cass, I'm in all in Cash,
I'm in.

Speaker 8 (01:22:30):
There's a ceiling there that you know you want. You
want to see him try to get to you know,
like that's what's exciting. It doesn't feel like every week
with him. I mean, you know, he's look, he's got
to progress. But it doesn't feel like even if he
plays well, it's like everything's got to go perfect around him,
you know, like there's might be at some point a
little bit of leeway. You know, maybe, oh we don't
have a great perfect game. But you know what, he
can throw forty yard bomb into the end zone that

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that you know, drops right in the bucket and.

Speaker 10 (01:22:53):
Hey, you know people couldn't see it because we weren't
on camera. But after that throw at the end of
the half, you know, we all got up and the
back and congratulated each other.

Speaker 3 (01:23:03):
Was actually I put the cigar down.

Speaker 4 (01:23:07):
I said, we got our guy.

Speaker 8 (01:23:10):
That was there's no cheering in the press box with
there was a little light.

Speaker 3 (01:23:13):
Uh it was under.

Speaker 10 (01:23:15):
Little little blood, little blood flow.

Speaker 3 (01:23:17):
There was a little blood there was. There was cheering
in the press box today.

Speaker 4 (01:23:21):
Down in the front row, I don't know, if you know,
I saw that some kids the ball that Schultz dropped
and Jones caught for the pick in the end zone.
Some kid, I don't know who he was, like a writer.

Speaker 3 (01:23:35):
I don't know who it was in the front row.

Speaker 8 (01:23:37):
He looked young.

Speaker 10 (01:23:38):
He looked like a young Maybe it was these kids
on journalism ethics and That's why it's good.

Speaker 8 (01:23:44):
We're up in the back and no one's looking over.

Speaker 5 (01:23:46):
One final point from light, which is the understatement of
the day. Wolf has a mountain of work to do
in the off season to add talent to this team,
which is mismatched against almost every team they face.

Speaker 3 (01:23:57):
True that, but I don't know.

Speaker 8 (01:24:00):
I mean, like yes, and though I like.

Speaker 5 (01:24:02):
Who's got a better roster? The Jacksonville Jaguars and the
new Etoln Patriots next week in London. Mike Jacksonville right,
probably by leaps and bounds.

Speaker 4 (01:24:09):
But they also are in a vastly different spot.

Speaker 5 (01:24:13):
Their owner told them they this is the best team
in Jacksonville.

Speaker 3 (01:24:16):
They're supposed to be. He's wrong about by the way.

Speaker 4 (01:24:18):
They're supposed to be battling for a playoff spot, not
being one and five right the Patriots. I mean, I
know that sounds awful, But would you think the record
was going to be when they were going to London?
Because the best I heard was one in five or zero.

Speaker 8 (01:24:32):
And six somewhere in that vicinities.

Speaker 5 (01:24:35):
What are you telling me, Dennis Green? They are with
the what you thought they are.

Speaker 4 (01:24:38):
Yeah, now, I would agree. I think if you matched
up player for player. I think Jacksonville probably has more talent, yes.

Speaker 8 (01:24:43):
But like, but if he gets to Patriots year three
of of Rice and then that's that's that's a fairer cut.

Speaker 10 (01:24:49):
Before they traded judea on and Barmart you know, was
out and Bentley was I thought the ceiling for this
season was going to be six games. That was before
for all these losses. So like, I'm not, like, I'm
not beside myself with the record, are you little?

Speaker 5 (01:25:07):
Do you think the coaches beside himself with the record
or the staff is beside themselves.

Speaker 4 (01:25:11):
Don't think they're beside themselves with the record. I think
they're beside themselves with the state of play.

Speaker 3 (01:25:15):
Well that's the that's I agree.

Speaker 10 (01:25:18):
I agree, Like it's.

Speaker 3 (01:25:21):
Tuesday. Yeah, that's you can be a you could take
credit for that one. You know, you'll be in my office.

Speaker 10 (01:25:28):
You can look at your team and say, you know,
you know, our guys aren't as good as their guys,
but we don't have to be having false starts. We
don't have to be making bonehead plays, you know, just
because our guys, you know, weren't Alabama, you know, first
round picks.

Speaker 4 (01:25:42):
I mean second, second time they've been called for the
legal formation there on the kickoff right second time six games.
You know, those kinds of things don't require any talent.

Speaker 10 (01:25:53):
And you know, like on the blog, like people are
I don't know where they're getting this from, if they're
from their own insight or whether you know, it's people
that they're reading or listening to, but they are really
really hitting our coaching staff hard.

Speaker 3 (01:26:09):
You know, taking it yep, really.

Speaker 10 (01:26:11):
And you know, I don't know, but like I don't
I can't judge them because it's chicken and egg kind
of thing, like, Okay, the players aren't that good, so
how can you judge the coaching staff? Oh, the coaching
staff's not good? How can you judge the player? You know,
you don't know where to where the blame pie goes.
But the people in the blog right from the beginning
of the game really hitting the coaching staff very hard.

Speaker 5 (01:26:34):
Twenty one accepted penalties in the last two weeks is
not good.

Speaker 10 (01:26:38):
Matt Tell's progress.

Speaker 3 (01:26:39):
You got to see progress from right.

Speaker 5 (01:26:40):
Guys, Tony and Canada. You're next from the Patriots postgame
show presented by DraftKings.

Speaker 31 (01:26:44):
Hello, Tony, hey, guys, Well, of course I'm calling about
Drake May trying to think of what to say that
hasn't been said already, but I think that OLVERJ actually
touched on it. But you know, I think if May
May has the tendency to let the ball sail on
him a little bit, especially on the short and intermediate passes.

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The long ball is he's very accurate on. So I'd
like to see him work on that. One of the
interceptions he overthrew his receiver. The other one it was deflected,
but still a high throw. So take away those two
high throws and those two picks, and I think we'd
be a lot more optimistic. I'm happy to see Drake

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May in. So that's all I have for today, guys.

Speaker 3 (01:27:28):
Thanks, And that's a good point.

Speaker 5 (01:27:30):
And where he missed today, I think he missed high
by and large.

Speaker 3 (01:27:35):
He missed high on a lot more than one or two.

Speaker 10 (01:27:37):
That's all release.

Speaker 8 (01:27:38):
Yep, that's exactly what we said saw in the preseasons.
I think we said it on the pregame show that
that's you know, he misses like that, that's one of
his things.

Speaker 5 (01:27:45):
See him from North Carolina, the state of Drake May.
You're next in the Patriots post game show. Hi, Sam,
all right.

Speaker 32 (01:27:52):
I think great May exceeded expectations today if you look
at the circumstances, lots of injuries leaving Russia out. Besides May,
the leading rusher had nineteen yards, He had no Russian
game to compliment playing a top five defense in the NFL.
His first start, led the team in rushing, threw for

(01:28:14):
more than anybody has, I believe against the Texans all year,
and really played better against them than Josh Allen did,
who was nine of thirty and he's the top three quarterback.

Speaker 10 (01:28:26):
I love it, Joshua, let's go, let's go.

Speaker 4 (01:28:29):
But yet they scored the same amount of points that
was Sam. By the way, but I would, you know,
wholeheartedly agree with Sam. Sorry, I would wholeheardly agree with
the assessment of May. I think, if you're just asking
me personally, he exceeded my expectations.

Speaker 5 (01:28:42):
All Right, we're gonna hear from Drake May in a moment.
But first let's go to Josh. Even though Fred was
calling Sam Josh, but let's go to Josh now from Georgia, Josh,
you're next to the Patriots postgame show.

Speaker 28 (01:28:52):
Hello, guys, I'm gonna do a little bit of a
change up here. I have a question about the well,
a couple of things about the defense, the scheme. Why
are we playing Mart at safety now when he had
so much success at linebacker last week? And also where
is Taki talkie? I know he had that penalty.

Speaker 3 (01:29:15):
He played a little bit opening kickoff.

Speaker 4 (01:29:16):
Yeah, he played, he played on He played on defense too,
but Mapu played safety last week too. He played linebacker,
but he played some safety as well. He's one of
those versatile guys. Brian Belichick talked about him a little
bit on Thursday, Mike just you know who. He compared
him to Fred You'll question okay, you know, and actually

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Mike Reese and I had a nice little sort of
a too on tag team with Brian. Yeah, he's just
said like he's kind of an old school He was
a really athletic linebacker who could cover tight ends and
do some different things, but you could also move him
away from the ball a little bit now, he said, specifically,
like with five for different era of football, where with

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three linebackers on the field all the time. So not
a perfect comparison, but yeah, he played some linebacker. Joshua,
You're right last week and I didn't see him as
much at linebacker today. I thought, for the most part
he was a little further back. Mike lamented that earlier,
but Taka Taki was out there getting his v wet. Yeah,
first game back. Okay, thanks for the call, Joshua.

Speaker 5 (01:30:19):
How about that A Belichick with a historical perspective on
a player, who would have guess that I.

Speaker 4 (01:30:24):
And you know that the two thousand and one Patriots
are for Brian and Steven are going to be Bill's
eighty six Johns ex That's.

Speaker 3 (01:30:31):
Right, right, that's good.

Speaker 8 (01:30:32):
I would just say to that last call, I don't
know how effective he actually was at linebacker last week.
I think it was more just liking seeing him.

Speaker 3 (01:30:38):
Play there, the fact that he was out there.

Speaker 10 (01:30:40):
You know, I just.

Speaker 8 (01:30:40):
Again, I don't want to hammer Ray Kwon McMillan and
you know both line Tavai being forced to play entirely inside,
But it's just they don't have answers inside right now,
those inside linebackers.

Speaker 5 (01:30:50):
Well, the topic du jour has been the play of
Drake May and the Patriots forty one to twenty one loss.
It was the regular season first start for Drake May.
Let's go to the podium and listen to the Patriots quarterback.

Speaker 10 (01:31:01):
I think, you know, we just.

Speaker 19 (01:31:03):
Hurt ourselvesselve today. I think that's the biggest thing. I
think we put the defense in bad, bad spots, and
you know, with how good our defense is, we can't
that's the that's the least thing we can do. You know,
we can't give him when the balls in the red
zone give him the other team the ball in the
red zone just makes it hard on him. And you know,
it starts with me and I think you know has
some throws back and especially you know the first interception. Yeah,

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but after the touchdown, you feel like coming you're back
in it, come out of halftime and it goes you know,
you know, no turnover in the red zone. So just
uh kept on, you know, hurting ourselves. And you know
in this league, you know, these teams are too good
to do that. And you know, with some great stuff
to watch on film, you know, some times out there
was it was a lot of fun on offense. So

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and so I told the guys in the whole the end, man,
we got the guys in the huddle, we just gotta
make a few few more plays and you can play
complimentary football. Also, you know, coach Mayo just preached play
complmentary football.

Speaker 3 (01:31:57):
We didn't do that.

Speaker 6 (01:31:58):
Today, Drake.

Speaker 26 (01:32:01):
As the game went on, did you feel it kind
of slowed down for you, you know, in the pocket
making decisions?

Speaker 19 (01:32:05):
Yeah, you know, I was a little ampt amped at
the start, for sure. I think, you know, the biggest
thing is having those guys around me. You know, they're great,
you know, pump me up, coaches defense. You know, the
guys around me were great trying to settle me down,
and Jacobe it was a big part of that. Seld
me down the sideline and you know, pre game, so
kind of once you got that first drive and it
was three and out and I'm probably have checked it

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down on the under. But uh, just some stuff you know,
look back and learn from. But now I also feel
like we did some good things.

Speaker 6 (01:32:34):
So Drake, you mentioned the interception, the first one.

Speaker 3 (01:32:39):
What sort of happened there would take us through?

Speaker 19 (01:32:41):
Yeah, uh, you know, pretty you know, pretty simple, you know,
pop over the middle, and you hit him a few
other times and wasn't that last time where he scored
that I hit him in stride, So just gonna make
better throws. You missed a little high and you can't
miss high over the middle. You know in this league,
that's what they always say, you can't miss high over
the middle, and you know, tip balls on the second
one turn and you know interceptions.

Speaker 3 (01:33:03):
Drake drug Mana just called it an encouraging performance on offense.
A lot that came in the second half. What wasn't
better for you guys in the second half than the
first half.

Speaker 19 (01:33:10):
Yeah, you know we preach you know, abps, preaching fast starts,
and you know, I wouldn't say it's you know, very
you know, please them when you start off with the
you know, turn over in the red zone to start
start the second half and start off with three and
out in the first game, I mean first first drivet.
So you know, little things like that that we we're
emphasizing on offense and we just haven't been able to execute.

(01:33:31):
I think this's the things that come back here, you
know what we're emphasizing, and you know, starts with me.
We need to execute. But kind of got going there
a little bit, made some thros. The guys made some
plays and you know we got like I said, we've
got those guys. We've got you know, guys that can
make plays and ohod lines up there battling, battling their
butt off and getting injured, towing back and always checking

(01:33:52):
on me. So those guys, you know, fight their butts
off tonight.

Speaker 6 (01:33:57):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (01:33:57):
Even Gerard was saying when he was up here that
you took some big hits first full sixty minutes from
you in the NFL as a quarterback. How are you
feeling physically after the fascality of today's game.

Speaker 19 (01:34:07):
Yeah, I think you know, hoo'ston who dextly a good
football team. They had good defense and they got some
good guys in the edge and up front, good guys
in the back end. So you know, it's a good
test for us. Like I said, I think you're right there.
A couple times in the game we were calling back
and we really just offensively, you know, put defense at
a bad spot. So I feel all right. I think
you know you're playing quarterback in the NFL. You know

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you're gonna be store the next day. You know it's
part of it, and probably need to do a better
job of getting down or or throwing it away. And
I think it took a couple of sacks maybe today
where I could have thrown away or your throw check
down staff you know, getting a sack and step up.

Speaker 24 (01:34:43):
Trake, you mentioned you were amped at the beginning before
settling down. What was the sideline like when you were
coming back.

Speaker 22 (01:34:47):
What were some of the conversations you were having, and
how is Jacobi helping during that time if at all.

Speaker 19 (01:34:51):
Yeah, you know, he's saying, we're good, We're good.

Speaker 13 (01:34:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (01:34:54):
And they went down there, you know, and scored on
theirs possess so puts a littleressure on you. I think
it's always a little pressure when they, you know, score
for to make a seven to zero. So just settle
down and trust the guys around me. And uh, you know,
you gotta be able run the football little bit too.
I think you know we preached that and you'll run
the football in this league? Is how you open getting
in Uh, you know, third and longer and third and
long too much. I feel like today and it starts

(01:35:15):
with me and you know, making better throws them and
decisions on first and second down.

Speaker 24 (01:35:20):
Drake Wednesday mentioned this is a dream for you to
get your first NFL start. What was dislike from from
that perspective and also how do you self evaluate overall
as to you know, how today went compared to what
you wanted to achieve.

Speaker 19 (01:35:33):
You know, shout out the fans, and you know, I
thought they were great. You know, you gave me goosebumps
run out there the first time in this staid you know,
you know, basically almost the whole way through cheering, and
you know, it was pretty sweet to be out there
in the reds. But like I said, I think now
you don't didn't come out with the win, and that's
kind of the goal, especially in your first start. You
want to come out with the win. That's pretty something,

(01:35:54):
pretty special. So I got to be able to you know,
watch the tape and learn from it and and bounce
back and to get a long flight so get ready
for playing overseas.

Speaker 33 (01:36:04):
Yeah, along those lines. Uh, there's no denying this is
one of the biggest days in your life. I mean,
that's that's that's a fact. Uh, it's also a fact
that your team lost convincingly. Uh what are those emotions like,
I mean, you're gonna be getting texts from friends, family
who don't take the loss into account of what's going
on right now in terms of the conflicting emotions.

Speaker 19 (01:36:27):
Yeah, I think you know, first fore most is just blessed,
don't think the good Lord. You know, I'm in a
great spot, you know, with the Patriots here and you know,
playing your quarterback in the NFL, and most of my
friends and family after a loss, you know, they're still
you know word more about the loss than uh than
kind of encouraging plays. That's kind of the people I'm around,
and we care about winning and just hate losing. So

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that's the big thing. I think there's some good things
to take away from it, you know today and and
I think, you know, I think back to coach with
coach may have got to play companary football and we
haven't done.

Speaker 6 (01:37:01):
That in the front.

Speaker 27 (01:37:03):
Drake, can you describe your mindset during the two minute
drill before halftime?

Speaker 4 (01:37:09):
Uh?

Speaker 27 (01:37:09):
Looked like you were able to try to fit some
passes into some tight windows there. Did Did that maybe
help you settle into a little.

Speaker 19 (01:37:16):
Bit I think two minutes, but two minutes of time,
it's it's a great time for you know, quarterback to
kind of get some passes and get some plays you
know that we're comfortable with, you know, under my belt,
and it's a lot easier, you know, in two minutes.
You know, then practice when you know the guys actually
come back there and tackle me in the back. So
I be able to make some plays. And you know,
Booty made a great play. And those guys, you know,

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I think pop down the sideline. That's, you know, great
play on his part. And just get the guys the ball.
And that's the biggest thing I got to do. I
think you'll give them the ball and let him make plays.
You know, you saw Hunter, you know on a flat route.
You know early on we're backed up, you know, make
make guy missed, get a first down. So well, things
like that to get the ball on my hands and
get into those guys that make a lot of money
that getting paid to, you'll get first downs.

Speaker 9 (01:37:58):
Trey right here, could you just walk us through your
forty yard touchdown pass to Jalen Polk and doing it
in a game as opposed to a practice. How much
did that help your confidence today? You had a you mean, Booty,
I'm sorry to Booty. Yeah, you're good. No, I think
you know, pressed up. I think we gotta give the jazz.
You got to give him a chance. That's the kind
of my thought process, give them a chance. I thought,

(01:38:18):
you know, kind of the text was kind of squating
us a little bit. They came out and challenged us
and played a man, so try to you know, let
one ride.

Speaker 19 (01:38:25):
And give us, give Booty a chance and many nice
play and it's pretty cool, you know, I think both
of our first touchdowns, so pretty cool moment.

Speaker 3 (01:38:31):
And you know fight.

Speaker 19 (01:38:32):
You know, in this group you can push the ball
down the field and make plays in the passing game.
So just gotta keep repping it and see what you like.
And I gotta make throws. That's the bottom line. Make
barre throws.

Speaker 5 (01:38:44):
And there's your Patriots quarterback today. The talk oh the town,
Drake May you want to analyze the presser?

Speaker 3 (01:38:50):
How do you think you looked?

Speaker 10 (01:38:51):
And what do you think of this?

Speaker 5 (01:38:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:38:53):
Yeah, I mean everything you want you want you want
to hear about taking accountability? Uh, talking about want to
get the win. You know, acknowledging the mistakes and the
spots where they put their team is just in a
bad spot.

Speaker 10 (01:39:04):
So you know, just good job.

Speaker 8 (01:39:06):
I mean I think a lot of these kids, I
mean I felt similar with some of the you know,
bad games we've had seen in years past. They know
how to take accountability.

Speaker 3 (01:39:12):
So that was good with it.

Speaker 8 (01:39:13):
I was good with any understands. It's not good enough,
and it's it's got to get better and hopefully that's
what direction on the head.

Speaker 10 (01:39:18):
Buckley kind of. I think it was Buckley that was
asking the question, but I would have liked to know, like,
in a weird way, did you enjoy yourself today?

Speaker 4 (01:39:27):
Like you know, yeah, yeah, that's that. I think that
is what buck was trying to ask. I think so
mixed emotions.

Speaker 3 (01:39:32):
I know you lost.

Speaker 4 (01:39:33):
I know you're disappointed, but yeah, you got a chance
to playing your first NFL game. You had some success, right.

Speaker 8 (01:39:39):
You know, you feel like you feel you feel like
his brothers are like, so, dude, I mean three turnovers's probably.

Speaker 3 (01:39:45):
Yeah, no question he did.

Speaker 10 (01:39:47):
He did say, you know, on a lot of when
he was talking about the negatives, it starts with me,
you know, And that's accountability.

Speaker 3 (01:39:53):
For sure, but from your quarterback.

Speaker 6 (01:39:55):
But I if I was.

Speaker 10 (01:39:56):
Coaching him, I would say, when you're talking about the negative,
I not we. This is this is the rule. When
it's bad, I did it, When it's good, we did it,
And when it's great, they did it. You know, that's
the rule. So when you're talking about negatives, it's I,
you know, leave the we out.

Speaker 3 (01:40:15):
Is that a fredism or.

Speaker 10 (01:40:17):
I think it's Paul Brown. Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:40:20):
Much like much like everything else, it originated elsewhere. I
like it, Okay.

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England email.

Speaker 23 (01:40:50):
This is.

Speaker 5 (01:40:52):
Do I have a name Damon from Shrewsbury, England, not Shrewsbury, Massachusetts,
who claims that he broke out the Zoe versus Saints
impression on the first touchdown pass.

Speaker 3 (01:41:02):
That's your quarterback, Zoe Bonies.

Speaker 5 (01:41:06):
That's the beef, that was the what's that stiff's name,
Kemberrell Tompkins who caught the ball from Brady when they
beat the Scents. This guy eleven years ago to Damon,
is saying that he went that's our quarterback after May's
touchdown to Booty.

Speaker 33 (01:41:20):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (01:41:20):
Excited for a weekend in London.

Speaker 5 (01:41:21):
I don't want to sit through a one hundred and
twenty yards zero touchdown passing game next weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:41:26):
Not perfect, but it's more fun. Yep. Here's the fans
sentiment of the day, right yeah, yeah, And I'm with
the fan who knew Fred Man of the people, I'm
with the fans. I'm with the funds.

Speaker 10 (01:41:37):
Paul red Zone Paul twenty seven to three Lions over Cowboys.
Could McCarthy be walked out of the of the game.

Speaker 3 (01:41:44):
I just think they have so many injuries. It's it's tough.

Speaker 10 (01:41:47):
He gets a pass.

Speaker 4 (01:41:48):
He might, but you know, there's no excuse for only
having three points. Yeah, I mean you got Dak Prescott
and Ceede Lamb. You should have more than three points
on the board, especially against the defense like Detroit.

Speaker 3 (01:41:56):
So's just average at best. Fred.

Speaker 5 (01:41:58):
Does Doug Peterson get the you have the privilege to
coach the Jaguars against the Patriots?

Speaker 3 (01:42:02):
Does he get to stay in London for the week
or do they send him home?

Speaker 10 (01:42:05):
On people were thinking that he might get the hook.

Speaker 5 (01:42:09):
So if you're thinking about it this week, the Patriots
could maybe put a nail in that coffin.

Speaker 10 (01:42:13):
You lose next week.

Speaker 3 (01:42:14):
Yeah, that would be a tough one.

Speaker 10 (01:42:15):
We're supposed to be you know, London's supposed to be
like your second home. And you lose both games, You're
not going.

Speaker 8 (01:42:21):
To spare the fan base there to root for you
if you can't win.

Speaker 5 (01:42:24):
But Brendan and Edmonton writes, fill in the blank, this
is the worst Patriots rasta since.

Speaker 3 (01:42:33):
God, I don't know, do twenty twenty?

Speaker 10 (01:42:36):
Yeah, twenty twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:42:37):
Right now.

Speaker 10 (01:42:38):
You don't think there were bad rosters in like the
nineties and you know, early ninetientes.

Speaker 3 (01:42:42):
The worst since twenty twenty, twenty twenty was was not
the worst of all time.

Speaker 8 (01:42:47):
I think it was also that I saw a stat
somewhere on Twitter that was the last time they gave
up like back to back one hundred and fifty yard
plus whatever it is for the real games. So, I mean,
we said it this summer. It was once those injuries
started happened. It feels a lot like that defense in
twenty twenty, where you had a lot of fill ins
and guys who weren't really going to be part of things.
I mean, I think the offense is a little bit
different and that you have some young pieces that you're

(01:43:08):
hope and grow. Like you didn't really have a d
Mario Douglas on the team back then. In twenty twenty,
you know guy it was it was kind of who
was that guy who played outside corner, gie, outside receiver.
I'm totally banking on his name.

Speaker 3 (01:43:18):
The oh they have really forget about Kobe Myers.

Speaker 8 (01:43:22):
Was was a good Yeah, that's actually that's a good point.

Speaker 3 (01:43:25):
Good point, and they I mean Edelman was kind of
done it. That was there. He got banged up and yeah,
played like five. Yeah, it wasn't as productive that year.

Speaker 8 (01:43:32):
But I think twenty twenty is a good woman it
was that was that.

Speaker 3 (01:43:34):
Was a roster that was similar to this. That roster struggled.

Speaker 8 (01:43:37):
But I think the quarterback is the big difference though.
That's you know, you have Cam Newton at the end
of it, when you know now you have a young
quarterback that and that that's the biggest difference to me.

Speaker 5 (01:43:46):
Here's my question to you, Michael. I know you probably
haven't started a crack open. What is that guy's name,
Dane Buglers the Beast his draft book, But here's my question.
A little bit regardless of where you're picking, but assuming
you're going to be in the top five, maybe top five,
certainly top ten. It looks like trending in that direction.
The best defensive lineman available versus the best offensive lineman available,

(01:44:10):
best offensive.

Speaker 8 (01:44:11):
Well, I mean, I think it's interesting this week.

Speaker 3 (01:44:13):
I mean, and I don't know that I would be
so quick to say that answer Fred. I would with Fred.

Speaker 8 (01:44:17):
I think it's interesting because this week there were some
reports out from Jordan Reid from ESPN that talking to
people around the league, there isn't really a strong consensus
there's a top ten tackle anymore. As much as everybody
wanted to talk about Will Campbell offensive tackle, offensive offensive tackle.

Speaker 4 (01:44:33):
Okay, yeah, if you wanted to tell me there's an
edge guy, Yeah, that's like a dynamic that's rusher.

Speaker 10 (01:44:40):
If the guy's available.

Speaker 5 (01:44:41):
But whoever, I should have been, I should have been more.

Speaker 4 (01:44:47):
Yeah, now I'd rather have I would rather have a tackle.
But if I'm like, I don't know, if there's like
a game wrecker von Miller, Like if von Miller's in
this draft class, then I would I would certainly think
about that. But that's like, that's a dynamic, athletic right
edge guy. Pevon Thibodeau a couple of years ago was
like the fifth pick.

Speaker 3 (01:45:05):
I think Will Anderson.

Speaker 4 (01:45:06):
Yeah, well, those kinds of guys I would think about.
I don't think those aren't defensive linemen.

Speaker 12 (01:45:11):
No.

Speaker 6 (01:45:11):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:45:11):
If it should have been more clear, no, but that's
that's I just wanted to make it clear. Like if
people are listening, like Paul doesn't want no, I would
absolutely be with Matt.

Speaker 10 (01:45:19):
Yeah, I would absolutely with Matt. But if there's a
blue chip talent available, take him. Yeah, whatever position.

Speaker 8 (01:45:26):
I think that there might be that kind of player.
But I mean, I just I look at it. There's
what five key positions to me in the NFL you
need to check the boxes of it's wide receiver, quarterback,
defensive end, cornerback, and uh and left tackle. And I
think they have one of them in the cornerback, and
I think they might have the two of the corner
So you got to find the other three. You gotta
find an edge rusher who can who's a game changer.

(01:45:46):
You got to find that left tackle, and you got
to find that number one receipt and you get those
three more pieces. That's why when the kids have said
something about the rebuild, it's like, Okay, well you might
have two of the five. You might have two with
the five, and I don't think it's crazy to think
that you can find potentially those other three in one
off seas.

Speaker 3 (01:46:01):
We got a lot of time for draft picks, a lot.

Speaker 10 (01:46:03):
It might be that's a lot of time for draft prep.

Speaker 5 (01:46:05):
Mic, But I'm gonna ask you this because you brought
it up, because I think the fans would definitely wide
receiver or left tackle.

Speaker 10 (01:46:14):
Again, if one of them's a blue chipper, you take
that Travis Hunter from Colorado left tackle.

Speaker 4 (01:46:20):
Yeah, I wouldn't even say to me, it's not even
a decision like you I as you know, I'm like
an offensive.

Speaker 10 (01:46:29):
Lineist, right, right, do that on your own time.

Speaker 4 (01:46:32):
You cannot function an offense correct until they get some
semblance of pass protection.

Speaker 33 (01:46:36):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:46:37):
It's so like I always say, like it's never going
to be that bad, Well, this year it's been that bad.
Like every three dropbacks, they have absolutely no chance to
complete a pass. And until that changes, I don't care
if you have Travis Hunter or or you know whoever
else out there. Do you need to find a way
to shore up your offensive line now? If there's not,

(01:46:57):
if Mike's right, if Will Campbell's no longer at top
ten pick, then trade down.

Speaker 8 (01:47:02):
Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. That's what I
was gonna say. If you're at three overall and there
isn't that generational pass rusher or generational tackle, now this
lines up to trade down you got. This is supposedly
a pretty good depth wise edge rusher draft. So if
you could hit Will Campbell at ten and then maybe
near the end of the first you're gonna get another guy,
and then you've still got your other pick early in

(01:47:23):
the second round. I mean that's you know, now you're
really talking. It's not quite what Houston did last year,
but it's in the same universe of hitting on multiple
top round kind of kids that you need.

Speaker 5 (01:47:32):
As we wind down, let's go to Mike on the
Jersey Shore. You'll be the last caller this evening. Mike,
Welcome to the Patriots postgame Show presented by DraftKings.

Speaker 34 (01:47:40):
Hello Mike, Hey guys, So I'll make it quick since
it's the end. So I think everybody's kind of had
the census what you saw from the quarterback, which I
think we should have seen on Day one. So my
question to you guys, and I'm gonna leave it at
this What are the next two things you want to
see with them the next week going forward? Tell me

(01:48:02):
two things that you think he needs that you want
to see him improve on.

Speaker 5 (01:48:06):
Great question, and I can handle at least one of them.

Speaker 10 (01:48:08):
Accurate, ac accurate, and don't turn it over.

Speaker 8 (01:48:11):
Yeah, that's it. Sky Lest passes and turn them all over.

Speaker 4 (01:48:15):
I would say I'd like to see him make more
plays that aren't the first read and less plays with
his legs.

Speaker 3 (01:48:20):
He set a bar. It was exciting.

Speaker 5 (01:48:22):
They lose forty one to twenty one of the Patriots
due to the Houston Texans, But Drake May set a
bar now. I think the expectation is we want to
see improvement every single week.

Speaker 8 (01:48:30):
And put down on the coaching staff overall as developed
of that development. We need a team to start for
the most critical mistakes, and we especially need Drake May
to make them progress.

Speaker 1 (01:48:38):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:48:38):
The Patriots lose today to drop to one and five.
They lose to the Houston Texans, who go to five
and one on the year by a forty one to
twenty one score in in a relatively impressive debut for
Drake May. That'll do it for us here at Julette Stadium,
for Chris Judge and for Josh Davis, for Matt Morele,
Matt Lapan, Paul Parrillo, Fred Kursch, Tamara Brown, and Mike
do So. I'm Matt Smith. Have a great week, everybody.

(01:49:00):
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