Patriots Postgame Show 10/27: Full Analysis of Patriots 25-22 Win against the Jets

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Speaker 1 (00:32):
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Speaker 4 (00:54):
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Speaker 2 (01:00):
There live from our studios inside ju Lett Stadium. Here's
Matt Smith.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
And we welcome you into our studios here at Jellete
Stadium in Foxboro, Massachusetts, where you saw you witness stead
of Final. The New England Patriots beat the New York
Jet today, Paul twenty five to twenty two. Mike do so,
I want to give them a little tip of the cap.
And our pregame show said, any given Sunday today was Sunday.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
I was going to give you a tip of the cap.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Well, I said, compete, and they competed. Man absolutely competed.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
We were all we asked for was was was a
little pushback, and they gave us some pushback today.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
And they won yep.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
So they absolutely deserve to win. I thought they were
going to lose, but they absolutely deserved to win. You
make the amount of mistakes the Jets made today, you
don't deserve to win a game. They came with absolutely
no intensity in the Patriots for sixty minutes, I thought
played with heart and toughness. I think they responded to
their coaches challenge.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
You know what, Paul, at the beginning of the year,
I think we all asked we weren't asking for a lot,
but we wanted a team that was spunky. We wanted
a team that showed some grit. May takes him down
the field, they score, he gets concusto, and he goes out.
That's adversity right there. You're starting quarterback who's really gotten
things going for this team goes out, What do you
hang your hat on? You got to give Jacobe Brisett

(02:13):
some credit, man, he hung in there.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
But yeah, I mean, the Jets to me the story
of the game. But the Patriots did everything that they
had to do to win the game. They did just enough.
They had a sixty two yard punt return to set
up touchdown. They get a thirty five yard play in
a two minute drill to set up another touchdown. And
you did just enough defensively to force you know, some

(02:40):
field goals and some some situations, and the Jets missed
them all. You know, two missed extra points, a miss
field goal, a drop, a snap to nobody which you
don't see every day, a snap under center with nobody
under center, delay game to delay a game calls, you
know like that. That's all for another time. The Jets

(03:01):
season is officially over.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
And the Patriots, I think that the key to the
Patriots today, The key takeaway from me is the coach
called them out and they responded with some some competitiveness
today one hundred. That's my key takeaway.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
I mean, I'm in concert with you on that. We
asked at the beginning of the day, can you compete,
show some pride, I think is what you said in
the pregame show. And they did, and they did, and
I think and it was across the board. Yeah, it
wasn't perfect.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
There was a lot of a lot of ugly in
the game. But I thought, I thought that they showed
some pride and I thought that was the key, the
key difference between today and a lot of the other games.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yeah, and look, there was drops galore. You know, it
was maddening sometimes the run defense where you saw Hall
get untouched for six or seven yards. But you know what,
they didn't run all over him, and the defense showed.
They showed when they needed to, and they made some plays.
I got to tell you a guy that I don't
know how much he's going to show up on the
stat sheet, Paul. Of course, everybody's gonna point to the

(04:01):
punt return. Marcus Jones competes, you.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
Know, tough day for him, no, but I.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Think he competes. You know, he gives away a lot physically,
and I think he plays hard. You know, I think
they all played like today.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
I didn't see any evidence of anybody today wearing a
Paidtriots uniform that wasn't there, Like, wasn't there to play,
to stick his nose in, make a tackle, shed a block.
You know, they used a lot of multiple alignemen. You know,
right down to the last play, the game winning touchdown,
they have two you know, two eligible linemen in the game,

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you know, and they and they squeaked it in. You
know that it was not like one of these pretty
like you know, finesse performances where you know, everything was working,
like you said, they dropped a couple of passes, just
a lot of just hard work. Strap it on, you know,
I don't know like where he gets it. This is
this is close, man, boy.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
I was I was worried.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
I gotta tell you, I haven't seen it look yet, definitive.
I saw a look that everything I saw, I couldn't
see the ball I couldn't see. So I was like,
they got to go with They gotta go with it.
They got to go with it. And then I saw
the last one, and it might be this. Look right here,
watch the Stevenson's got the red gloves, and you're going
to see a red glove down at the goal line

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right there and the balls behind it. And I went, oh, right,
I went uh oh. But thankfully they did not overturn
it because the team that deserved to win that game
won the game, right, And I thought it was a DC.
I know that's not the way it's supposed to be. No, no,
no no, in terms of the calls, but this was
to me, this was a just result.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Well, I think if that if that had happened in
the Jets had won off of something like that, they
would have been holding their breath going. Boy, we got
away with one today. You know, I like the two
point call? Would you think of the two point call?
Is a well designed play?

Speaker 4 (05:43):
I didn't even see it, to be honest with Okay,
game was over.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
A little play action fake and they went to Stevenson in.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
The They did not take it.

Speaker 6 (05:53):
They did not take it.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Good eight five five pats five hundred is our number.
If you want to talk to us. A lot to
talk about in this game. Do we wait for Michael?

Speaker 4 (06:02):
No, no, we can.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Let's go to the good, the bad, and the injured.

Speaker 7 (06:05):
Then, please, it's time for the good, pretty good, pretty good.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
The bad.

Speaker 8 (06:14):
And the injured.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Ah, you are right guy, all right, I'll let you
lead it off. Who's who was on the nice list
as opposed to the naughty list that you want to
kick off?

Speaker 4 (06:30):
So my number one guy on the good list today,
I'm going to surprise you a little bit, Jacoby Brissett.
I thought he came off the bench, and I didn't
think that he was the reason why any of their
drives that didn't result in points were the reason that
they didn't get points. I thought he consistently faced some
difficult situations they had the their go ahead field goal

(06:52):
drive in the fourth quarter. He had multiple third down
conversions on that. You know, he did a good job.
They had a third and eleven. I want to say
on the final drive that he scrambles for a first down,
you know nothing, you know, fifteen for twenty four for
one hundred and thirty two yards, no touchdowns, no picks.
It's not about the stat line. No, it's about our

(07:12):
theme of the day that we're going to make people
sick about because we'd set it for two hours in
the pregame. It's about professionalism, pride, compete. Jacoby Brissett was
ready to play when he came in the game. He
deserved better statistically, no question. I thought he put a
number of passes in situations that should have been caught
and did not get a lot of help for his teammates.
But he's my number one on the good list today.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Twelve play, seventy yard drive. I think it was Paul
at the end of the game to get him to
get the lead for him. And on the third down
conversion to Booty. I'm looking at the TV copy, so
I'm just seeing, you know, the replay on that. We're
set through that before Booty broke. He knew exactly where
the ball was supposed to go in the area of
the field was supposed to go, Booty broke, and he

(07:54):
went underneath and cradled it. And it was a really
really nice play where you've had you know, if you're
a Patriots fan today, anytime the ball was going to
a wide receiver, you didn't know what the result was
going to be. That was a great throw and it
was a good catch by Booty. No, I agree.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
It was, you know, a big play, and that's probably
what they needed. I don't think they were going to
do it, you know, eight ten, twelve yards at a time.
I don't think that the Jets were going to let
him do it that way. They needed to make a
chunk play and that was huge. That was a huge
chunk play. And you know, I'll give you know, give
Booty a little credit for responding, because not a good
day for him. No, but you know, when he had

(08:30):
to have it, he had it and and that turned
out to be a big difference.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
You want to continue on your list, why don't you?

Speaker 4 (08:37):
You don't have one?

Speaker 1 (08:37):
No, I do. I interesting. Brishette was on my list,
for sure, but Drake May was on my list when
he played. I thought Drake May was terrific.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
Yeah, I mean I thought he he ran the ball
really well today. I mean he had three scrambles that
were responsible for the touchdown.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
But unfortunately with him behind you know, running it.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
Yeah, unfortunately, we just didn't get a chance to see it,
you know we. I mean he had three drives two
or three and out and one was a touchdown. But
when he's running the ball like that's an element that
they just don't have. I'm getting I'm trying, like I
was saying to Evident Mike during the game, I'm just
trying to get used to it. I'm not used to
having a quarterback that runs like this. But yeah, I
mean I had he was on the top of my

(09:18):
good list, and unfortunately we didn't get a chance. No,
I'm just saying, I just write him down as they
happened during the game. I had May scrambles today and
I would say, you know, you know, he had three
for forty six yards, including a touchdown, eighteen yard touchdown
and seventeen yard touchdown. I guess I thought. I thought

(09:39):
he did a great job of sort of you know,
taking advantage of the lack of discipline with the Jets
pass rush, pass rush, and that was Those were some
big plays.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
All right, Paul. The postgame player interview is presented by
Microsoft Service and Surface And on the line. Right now,
we are pleased to be joined by Patriots linebacker Christian Ellis. Christian,
this is Matt Smith along with Paul Perilla. Congratulations on
the win today, Christian, Thank you so much.

Speaker 9 (10:01):
I appreciate you guys having me.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Well, I want to let's go first. What was it
like in the locker room? Tell me what that was
like after the win. You guys battled today. You know,
it wasn't perfect, it wasn't pretty the whole time, but
you guys really hung tough. Tell me what it was
like when you knew that you had the wind secured
and he got in the locker room.

Speaker 9 (10:18):
You know, it was a lecture. You know, we have
put in so much work, so much time away from
family's friends, that it's just good to get when you know,
we started off this year to win this time, that
we got another one. You know, through the ups and
downs adversity that we go through, you know, God's blessed
us with another one. So I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
Christian.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
I know you're probably sick of, you know, listening to
the questions that we're asking about. You know what Jerrod
Mayo said after the game, But it looked like to
me and Matt and I were talking about it in
the open here, you guys really responded to that, you know,
to that challenge. There was nobody on the field that
could be accused of being soft today. I know that
you guys took it personal. Was that the message especially

(10:59):
on defense for you guys?

Speaker 9 (11:02):
Yeah, no, you know, Mayo challenges us every day. He's
an amazing head coach, especially being a former player. He
just knows the ins and outs of it. So we
took it upon ourselves to work harder in the practice league,
work harder and be more disciplined, you know, with our
game plan. So it all worked out in the end.
But you know, Mayo definitely is the tones that are

(11:24):
for this team.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Well, I want to talk about it, and we're watching
it now a little bit on the replay here. I
want to talk to you about your shack where we
had a little rush going in.

Speaker 6 (11:32):
I think Hall.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Would have liked to have maybe gotten a little bit
more of you when you came in on the play.
But what's it like, What are your eyes looking like
when you see future Hall of Famer Aaron Rodgers dead
to rights in front of you.

Speaker 9 (11:44):
Honestly, it happened so fast like it came. It just
became complete reaction. I wasn't even thinking about any of
that where I was on the field, what was happening.
It was just about me getting the guy, you know,
getting them down. So it wasn't about who it was.
It wasn't about anything like that. It was more about
let's just get this play going, you know, to stopping.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
Them with the run defense in particular today, Christian looked
like you guys, you know, there was times that they
got you on the edges a little bit early. Then
you guys settled that down, and really I thought, you know,
the production for the Jets really dropped as the game
was going on. Did you guys make an adjustment to
some of that stuff they were doing wide earlier in
the game.

Speaker 9 (12:25):
Yeah, No, it came It came down to really technique.
We had our plan going into the game and we
didn't really need to do anything different. There's a few
minor adjustments here and there, but it became down to technique,
following your eyes, following your keys, and just making the
play when it comes to you.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Christian, you know, you guys have a young team with
a lot of different players from a lot of different backgrounds,
Guys that had to fill in when people are injured.
What's a win like this do to help your confidence?
Like you were saying, you put in the work during
the week, you want to see results. So today you
got the results. What does that do for team's confidence?

Speaker 9 (12:58):
Yeah, no, it does everything, you know, I think first
and foremost, Like it comes down to it comes down
to who we play for. You know, I played for
God and my family and then the team I'm playing for.
So it really just helps like the unity of the team,
the unity of the locker room, and then going forward
to help us, you know, keep everything together and keep moving.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Christian, a big thank you for taking the time to
join us today. Congratulations on a really good team win,
best of luck going forward.

Speaker 10 (13:28):
Thank you so much, appreciate you, Thank you.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
Congrats Christian.

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(13:53):
a nice win for the Patriots to day, Paul, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
I mean, like I said, you know, anybody that had
any doubts, you know, heading in, you know, is he
called mesoft? You know, is he calling you suck? There
are no concerns about any of that today. They they
brought their hard hats and they earned it. And like
I said, I said to Fred during the course of
the game, there's no way that Jets deserve to win

(14:15):
this game. The Patriots are definitely doing more to win
the game here than the Jets are. And you know,
I'm not gonna lie. I didn't think they were going
to win it, And be honest, even right down to
the last play, I wasn't sure they were going to
get in. But they deserve to win the game because
they played better than the Jets for the vast majority
of the sixty minutes.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Bossy and Fred joins us now as we recap a
Patriots twenty five twenty two win over the Jets. What
are your thoughts, Fred, I'm proud.

Speaker 6 (14:42):
I'm proud of him.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
I am, I am.

Speaker 6 (14:45):
I'm proud of the response. They didn't come out soft.
This was not a soft team today. So I loved it.
I love it. I'm proud of them.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Proud of them, by the way, Fred, yep, I'm with you, Fred,
Yeah with you.

Speaker 6 (14:59):
Hey, Look, how can you not be what the hell
I said? I mean, they're not going anywhere this season,
but let's get a win and why not be over
the Jets.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Let's go right?

Speaker 4 (15:08):
You officially ended the Jets season.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
All height something to be proud, We'll go right. Sure,
love it. We're in the middle, we're in the midst
of still Paul's good, bad and injured line.

Speaker 11 (15:21):
So I have a lot.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
I had Christian Ellis on my good list today. He
had one, you know play. I'm sure he'd like to
have back with the pass interference in the first quarter,
but I thought he was really active in the game.
We had his stats up as we were playing. We
just spoke with Christian Ellis. Fred uh nine tackles, three
solos and a big sack on third down, which you
know created a field goal and the way that Greg

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zerlines kicked this year. That's what you know that that's
a big play to keep seven off the board, and
that ultimately was the difference in the game. Was the
three you know, the five points that the Jets left
on the field with a missfield goal and two missed
extra points. That's the difference in the game. Christian Ellis
was responsible for one of those missfield goals. I thought
he was really active around the line of game. Yeah, yeah,

(16:10):
so I had him on my good list.

Speaker 6 (16:11):
Listen, I mean, you go into this game the defense
is already hurting. Then you don't have dugger, you don't
have a quality. You don't have who was the third
guy out today?

Speaker 1 (16:21):
I forget Jonathan Jones didn't played.

Speaker 6 (16:23):
Jonathan Jones played Jonathan Jones he played.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
I didn't see it.

Speaker 6 (16:27):
I know that you were missing three guys on defense,
you know, like you're completely under man and yet yeah,
I know the Jets offense has been stinking lately, but
they've been stinking against better defenses. And you figured, oh
that you know, they'll they'll get right against the Patriots.
But they didn't. The Patriots played hard the whole way

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through sixty minutes.

Speaker 4 (16:49):
The better thing. Like the Jets defense I think is
pretty good. And the Patriots went down the field twice
in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
On them with set I know that's about the Patriots,
not about the Jets. But here's one for a couple
of sage scribes like yourself. Have you ever seen a
team empty the bucket in the first quarter with their timeouts?

Speaker 6 (17:07):
Yeah, they had used them all three.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
You know, when you know you have two bad teams
playing when there are four timeouts called in the first
quarter of an NFL game.

Speaker 6 (17:15):
Never seen that before, and you know you never see that.
But with the way Rodgers has been this year, he's
done it every game. Yeah, I'm not surprised.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
Every game they break the huddle with like eleven seconds
left headline every game.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Absolutely, you know.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
He's moving guys around this. That's the other thing he.

Speaker 6 (17:36):
Needs to show the world that it's cool.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
Charge Just so you know, I'm not nervous right now,
Calm and cool.

Speaker 6 (17:43):
Yeah, right, you're probably gonna And then they had that
big delay of the game at the end of the
right on.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
The two point conversion. Inexcusable veteran quarterback to do that. Inexcusable,
all right, Paul I'm I'm gonna say it. You're gonna
mock me of it.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
Why how do you always preface all your goods.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
With you are? And I was going to add Marcus
Jones to my good list again for the punt return. No,
I think he competed on defense. He's not that's perfect,
but that's not the he's and and it's a mismatch.
That's a job requirement. Well before today's game, it was
a job requirement. He didn't compete last week.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
Yeah, And I don't think I mean the guy who
was covering dominated him. He's like he dominated.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
It was a mismatch, it was, And I thought he played.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
Tough, so I gave him. I think he won the game,
to be honest with you, because I don't think if
he has that punt. If he doesn't have that punt return,
I don't think that Patriots probably don't score any points
in the second half.

Speaker 11 (18:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
I think that set the stage for them believing that
they could win the game.

Speaker 6 (18:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
I had him on my good list for the sixty
two yard punt return, which by the way, was all
Marcus Jones.

Speaker 6 (18:41):
Yeah, he tiptoed down the side.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
I think he's and I've said this a million times.
I think he's the most dynamic returner in the league,
in the league, in the league, Paul Pero, I think
he's Marcus Jones. I think he's electric with the football.
I continue to say I would put him on offense too.
I don't think he's a great defensive back. I would
put him on offense.

Speaker 6 (19:00):
With the way that guys weren't catching the ball today.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
I would have I would put the ball on his
hands and see if he can do that for you.
Once again, put a package together for him, right, you know,
I think I had him on my good list. He's
also going to appear later in the show, but I
did have him on my good list with the punt return.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
Deuce Joins is now Deuce initial reaction after the Patriots
twenty five to twenty two wins.

Speaker 7 (19:20):
Well, I was dealing with computer problems to win that
when this was all going down. Some literally, did they
just win the game?

Speaker 1 (19:24):
I had no idea.

Speaker 7 (19:25):
No, I was trying to pay attention there at death,
but I mean, what a you know, remarkable win. Didn't
expect them to be able to do that. Just felt like,
all right, here that comes, They're gonna they're not gonna
be able to mount a CounterPunch after the Jets took
that late lead. But credit to Jacoby Brissett. Thought he
hung in there, made some throws at the end. I
mean they grinded it out. I mean they got it
by maybe like the width of a hair was well,
but they scored that touchdown.

Speaker 12 (19:45):
That's how close it was.

Speaker 4 (19:47):
I think they might have gotten it by too many
guys were in the way for them to see.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yeah, yeah, it was. I mean I'm not sure he
was in. They didn't have a great look, which I
gave it to the cap any given Sunday. You said,
any given Sunday in the pregame show.

Speaker 7 (19:58):
Yeah, I mean, you know, they just made enough plays
and there wasn't you know, there were still a lot
of the same problems and issues. I thought at times.

Speaker 6 (20:05):
It's incredible how inept the Jets are right now, though,
it really is. I mean I had never thought the
Patriots were gonna win this game, going yeah, correct, but
the Jets did everything in their power to make that happen. Yeah,
you know. Yeah, so not that I'm still not proud
of the guys, I am, but man, the Jets are
a mess. What a mess.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
We did, say Paul in the pre I mean a
friend of the pregame show, and I think we were
talking about path to victory. I think for the Patriots,
Patriots path to victory has to include the opponent being
a co conspirator, you know, you need some.

Speaker 6 (20:37):
Help from But I'll bet you that included turnovers, right.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
Correct, We didn't. We didn't say utter mismanagement. I mean
they weren't turnovers, by the right, they weren't. They weren't turnovers, yeah,
no traditional sense. But they gave you stuff missing field goals,
you know, missing chip shots, Oh, missing extra points. Those
are getting to lay games on extra points. Those are
I mean those are points. Yeah, those are point costing
mistakes plays that you know. It wasn't turnovers because I

(21:02):
actually said that for the Patriots to win, they would
have to be plus two and turnovers, and there were
no turnovers in the game. The Jets tried, I mean
they snapped the ball when there was no quarterback there once, Yeah,
but they ended up recovering it.

Speaker 6 (21:14):
I think he thought Rogers was behind.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
That's what he did.

Speaker 6 (21:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
Yeah, I mean so, I mean technically, I mean, yeah,
they did not turn out I.

Speaker 6 (21:20):
Know Rogers can be gentle, but I didn't know he
was that.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
But what they did was akin to turning the ball over.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
I thought, Yeah, finish with your goods.

Speaker 6 (21:28):
Paul, Well you started with Henry. I hope right, Hunter Henry.
I have not gotten to yet.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
But Hunter Henry, I think is is worthy of being
on the good.

Speaker 6 (21:41):
List, worthy of good I think he was stellar.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
Uh yeah, five catches for forty five yards.

Speaker 6 (21:49):
Yeah, but there were all big catches.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
The dependableable receiver in the field today.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
Absolutely, Okay, I had Hunter Henry on my good list.
I'm not gonna argue how good it was. I'm just
gonna say I had Hunter Henry on my good lift.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Nobody's calling him gronk, but he played well, big friend
is No, he isn't.

Speaker 7 (22:06):
No, I had him, but I think it's I got
two checks. I got two checks for him. I think
third down catches. But yeah, I mean it's not a
lot of offensive output today, but he's one of their
key guys and some key moments. You're seeing that play
right there, the third and eleven. It was a big one,
you know.

Speaker 4 (22:22):
Yeah, I had him on my good list.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
Fred Paul had Ellis on his good list. Am I
wrong to have ke On on my good list today?
Did we see the good key on White today? Well?

Speaker 7 (22:34):
I liked that he held up and didn't didn't get
a pass a you know, roughing the passer penalty there.
I thought we saw a little bit of growth there
from Leon on one play. But I gotta be honest,
I didn't really notice them a lot today.

Speaker 4 (22:42):
Okay, I didn't notice him.

Speaker 6 (22:46):
I mean he had a couple.

Speaker 4 (22:48):
That doesn't mean he played bad.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
I thought I thought he was pretty.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
I just didn't he didn't show.

Speaker 11 (22:52):
I didn't like.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
He didn't stand out to me. He had pressure on
a play where he grabbed Rogers by the ankle.

Speaker 6 (22:57):
Yeah, I think the defense as a.

Speaker 4 (22:59):
Whole knocked down and reached out and grabbed him by
the ankle.

Speaker 6 (23:01):
The defense as a whole, except for the mismatches, which
they had played well.

Speaker 4 (23:06):
The defense competed today.

Speaker 6 (23:07):
They competed. They had the p I s. People are like, oh,
that doesn't count. Yes, it does. It counts for bad
plays when you have a you know, interference call, that's
a that's a bad play by the defense. So I
count those.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
And they also but they were a mismatched and they
also came up in a couple of spots that they
look like they were sort of teetering, including the very
first possession of the game where Gibson returns the punk
inside the forty they forced up three and out. Yeah,
you know, so I thought the defense competed today.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah, absolutely was the second there was a deflect.

Speaker 6 (23:40):
There was a deflected Yeah, and only went thirty yards.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
The other punt coverage team still stinks.

Speaker 12 (23:47):
We'll be talking about them.

Speaker 4 (23:49):
Yeah, they'll come up later, all right. So I have
another good Like my first good was was Bressett, Mike,
but I thought the pass protection today held up.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
Yeah, good point to so good point.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
I think those five guys they couldn't run the ball
a lick, But that I thought those five guys. I
thought it was also odd the Jets really seemed to
deviate from the game plan from the first time. And
I wonder if that's about Drake May and his mobility.
They didn't really come after the way they came after

(24:21):
Brissett in that first game, and it might be because
of his you know, his ability to extend place and whatnot.
But I thought the pass protection.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Was good today. Yeah, I thought it held up on
TV Nance and Romo. We're talking about an undisciplined Jets
pass rush on a couple of those may scraam Romo.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
You're not being sarcastic.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
I am being Okay, Yeah, I don't watch it right,
Yes it was.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
I had no idea who did the game, and I
was like, they didn't Nance and Romo in this game?

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Did that? They had no mention of may and the
concussion and going to the blue tender or anything like that.
I think until uh Gerard Mayo said at halftime that
he was out for the game.

Speaker 6 (25:03):
Well they yeah, they mentioned he went to the locker
room right late late. Yeah, let's hope. Let's pray for Drake. Yeah,
pray for may.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Mike, any any other we've had Drake, We've had Marcus Jones,
We've had keon White. Paul disagrees he forced a f
forced to. I didn't disagree. Okay, they disagreed, alright.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
I said I didn't notice him. I just I said nothing.

Speaker 6 (25:28):
He did force funneled and he's not on your good list.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
No, I didn't have him on my good list, but
I didn't disagree that he had him on his good list.

Speaker 6 (25:34):
Well, if he has him, how can you disagree, mockery
and derision.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
Paul I literally said nothing. Every time he has a
good he says, I know Paul will disagree with this, right.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
I don't know what I did, Michael. Do you have
anything to.

Speaker 7 (25:47):
Add h No, I think you guys pretty much covered.
I'm glad you mentioned the past protection though. I just
I think that's a good one. Something or they of
a little bit more of a deep dive going forward.
But you know, I just thought it wasn't the initial pressure.
It wasn't the quick pressure.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
You know, he saw at least there was no runaway
guys day guys Thursday night when they played, not the
guys right up the b gaps, all that that stuff
they talked about.

Speaker 7 (26:06):
I thought he had at least initial chance. Sometimes those
other places it closed in, but he at least had
the initial chance, I thought.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
And having said that your boy Williams is a beast
like that's a mismatch of epic proportions. And I thought
the kid, that kid Brown hung in there though, you know,
because it wasn't it wasn't, you know, in all out
jail break.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
No.

Speaker 7 (26:24):
I I thought that that one throw Brissette had to
booty you know late in the down on that last
drive he got stuck stepped up, And I mean just,
I mean, great, great play, nice adjustment by Booty. I
just I can't put Booty on the uplist based on
that drops and everything. But you know, he's one of
those samples of a player who makes a couple of
plays in clutch time, and I think that that is
worth a mention, but not a spot.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Off which might lead to right, I was gonna say,
which might lead us to our bad list. And rather
than go through all the individual wide receivers, do you
just want to bucket him and say wide receiver drops.

Speaker 12 (26:56):
Yeah, I think that's a perfect way.

Speaker 7 (26:57):
That's exactly how I was kind of planning on teeing
it up, not to kill everybody, but I mean born
Booty Thornton. I mean, we were doing the what if
those what if those have been caught game with Drake
wouldn't have gotten Cancust. You know, that's that's the games
you're all play. But I just thought all those guys
had some bad drops today, and you can't have that
when you're trying to help your quarterbacks out, when it's
so hard to make these kind of plays. I mean

(27:19):
that one to Thornton right there they're showing I mean that.

Speaker 12 (27:21):
That's unfortunately, that's just Thornton.

Speaker 7 (27:23):
I mean, as soon as there's some contact and having
an adjust in the air, it's really hard for him.

Speaker 12 (27:28):
That's not his game. He needs to be open. I
was frustrated by a couple of those drops.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
So as bad as I think the wide receiver group
was as a whole today, can we then go a
little positive? Thornton came back on that touchdown drive and
got a big first down where I don't I'm not
even sure he usually catches the ball there made a
guy miss or a guy whift, however you want to
see it. That was a big play and Booty, for
all of his struggles, somebody you know, he got that
ball when he needed to get the ball. So good

(27:53):
for them for not going in the tank. The one
other thing I wanted to mention that you were saying
it's tough for they have these drops when they're talking
the whole week.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
Well that's why I separated. That's why I separate, Booty.

Speaker 6 (28:04):
If think again, as open on the field as their
mouth is during the wake, they'd be great.

Speaker 4 (28:08):
Like Thornton failed to hold onto one pass deep down
the field. That was not an easy play. I think
he should have caught it. I think it's a flat drop.
Bourne had a crosser that I think was a flat
drop one play. Booty had multiple drops in a week
that he complained about not getting the ball enough. I
think that's different now, as you guys said, with the

(28:29):
game on the line, he made the play to play. Now,
Brissette made the play to me, but Booty was able
to make that catch and that sets up the game
winning touchdown. So always forgiven, I guess.

Speaker 6 (28:40):
But I actually think Booty I think the ball might
have crossed the plane as his knee went down. I
think that might have been a touchdown the one where
they called him down at the one I think.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
But anyway, Yeah, that seemed to be clearly he was down.
But that's that's why two people see things a little
bit differently. That's the drop there by who is that?
That's KB again?

Speaker 4 (28:58):
Yeah, this one to me is different though.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Yeah, that was the crosser.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
Yeah, the crosser there that he had that would have
been a first down on the third down. I didn't
want to say it was early in the second half.
That ball's got to be caught.

Speaker 7 (29:08):
Yeah, the one would like the guy coming like right right.

Speaker 6 (29:11):
There were three clear drops and you just can't have
that for the Patriots.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
Well it's more than three. I don't want Booty had
three alone, and Bourne had two and Thornton had one.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
I don't want to make excuses for these guys. Is
there a shadow issue on the field at your Ledge Stadium?

Speaker 4 (29:27):
Possibly, you know, But like see this, that's a tough
that's a tough play. I mean, Thornton's got to make
that catch. He's got to got to make that catch.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
It hit him right in.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
But it's not an easy play.

Speaker 13 (29:39):
You know.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
He's getting as I thought, explained it really well with
it like fighting through contact in the air, sort of adjusting.

Speaker 11 (29:46):
But.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Need to be out. I agree. I totally agreed, Freddy.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
Hey, lets this ball get gets to his chest and
let me just tell you something else. I know, it's
only been three games, not even that was the best
throw that Drake May's made.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
That was sick.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
When he was rolling out and I saw where he
was throwing with the ball, I thought, oh no, that's
going to get picked because usually the guy has time
when the ball is going to be in the air.
That long, but his arm is so strong he gets
it there before the guy. Now it was Jalen Mills.
But I mean that's that's just a drop.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
That's alligator arms, right, that's yeah, Fred, what do you lobster?
He just likes to swing up.

Speaker 6 (30:22):
You ever, you ever try to catch a ball with claws,
you can't do it.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
That's a good point, all right, So we're all in
agreement that the wide receiver.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
This one, but this is boyns.

Speaker 11 (30:30):
No.

Speaker 4 (30:31):
Yeah, that's that's a bad drop. Yeah, that's a really
bad drop.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Where else do you want to go in the bad list? Michael?

Speaker 7 (30:36):
I want to talk about the you know, just the
punt team out of the gate. I just thought two
bad punts to start the game. Uh, not good, not good,
you know, forty yard return and then I think it
was a net twenty four the thirty yard punt.

Speaker 6 (30:47):
That yeah, that's becoming a problem.

Speaker 7 (30:48):
That twenty four yards. I mean just right out of
the gate. And you talk all week about wanting to
come out sawt cover kicks, something a tough team does.
And I just thought the special teams out of the
gate with the punk team dropped the ball with those
with those two returns, credit you know, to the defense
put come out of the field first possession. They're on
their side of the field already three out, so yeah,

(31:11):
good for them. I thought, you know, in in situationally
they were. They came through with some some big stops,
some red zone stops, so credit to them for for
preventing them beleeving on those. But just not good, not
good from the punt team out of the gate.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
On my list as well, Paul, I assume cross the
board the punt coverage, Oh.

Speaker 4 (31:26):
Yeah, yeah, not good.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yeah yeah, And I see, and I don't know that
the punter's helping him out any on these two like
a couple of these returns right down the middle of
the field, you know, and he does a really good
job a lot of times in angling the ball.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
I mean that's inside the numbers right there, you know,
like that's not bad. But the special teams have been really,
really spotty.

Speaker 7 (31:48):
To me, Yeah really I'm getting more. I mean, you've
been more concerned about it than Miam. But each week
on my concerns a rising with these guys, and you know,
it's just it's just not consistent, and it's unfortunate because
it's you can be average and okay, but.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
That player right there just looks like a routine play.
That's bad coverage there. Right on that last one that
was no, that was out of the end zone, that
was that was like a routine punt, got out and
cover it. He sets, I mean, Gibson's a pretty good
punt return. He sets, he sets up his blocking pretty well,
and he made a nice play. We got a good
look at that. But you know, like right right here

(32:23):
he cuts back inside those two guys, it's like a
fifteen yard It just looks like pedestrian and all of
a sudden they're taking over on you side of the field,
Like you got to cover him better than that.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Schooler sick? Schooler sick? Maybe an excuse there that your
best special teams in coverage player maybe a little under
the weather. Sure, yeah, oh jesus.

Speaker 7 (32:43):
You're looking at grasping. I mean, it's it's sick or not.
It's it's starting to look kind of like this every week.
So that that to me is a probab bigger problem.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Yeah, Paul, continue on your list please.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
So as I do this, I'm gonna I'm gonna say
that I probably should have put this guy on my
good list first, And I thought Gonzales was much better
in this game today on DeVante Adams. Again, not perfect,
but good player covering a good play. They're the guy's
going to make some play too. I thought Gonzales was
much better in this game today. Marcus Jones was overmatched. Yeah,
Garrett Wilson was in the clear every time Rogers.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
Threw the ball to him.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
And what do you end up with? Five for one
hundred and thirteen.

Speaker 11 (33:22):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (33:24):
A couple of passes that that Wilson caught too, and
he like stumbled as he was catching them or they
I think they could have been really big plays. I
just yeah, he's not he was over match. Yeah, you know,
I understand he's not big enough to handle some of
the bigger receivers, but I thought he would be shifty
enough to stick with receivers and he wasn't today.

Speaker 6 (33:47):
Well, he was there, but he just can't he can't
come up with the play.

Speaker 4 (33:51):
Yeah, I don't think he was there.

Speaker 6 (33:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
I don't think the catches that Garrett Wilson made today
were not catches that ninety percent of the receivers in
the league would make.

Speaker 11 (33:59):
No.

Speaker 7 (34:00):
I thought I think it was the drive of the
miss field goal. They switched it and they doubled, they doubled.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
They bracketed.

Speaker 12 (34:05):
Yes, yeah, and that was they got off the field
with that one.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
But I thought, that's but that's third and eight from
like the fifteen yard line, so like you got the
condensed space and you can do some different things. That
was the Lla sack. Yeah, And we talked about We
talked bat and I talked to Christian earlier.

Speaker 6 (34:19):
I mean, oh you guys, had you did a call
without med We did a chin wag.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
He did a little chin wag with Christian Ellen's.

Speaker 6 (34:25):
They asked him to wait for Mike and he's like, who,
I thought.

Speaker 12 (34:28):
Paul, who are you?

Speaker 6 (34:30):
Exactly did you play today in the game?

Speaker 14 (34:31):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (34:31):
I thought he was like no bs, I thought he
was really good today. I was churching with Frett.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
The whole game.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
I got that's another play for Ellis. Another played for Ellis.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
Du player comes in on the phone. We can't wait
around for that.

Speaker 15 (34:44):
You got to.

Speaker 16 (34:46):
No.

Speaker 7 (34:46):
I just I know how much Paula enjoys it, so
that I do.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
I do hate me some some player interviews, But he
was the I thought he was a really good guy today.
To get for that interview, because I thought he had
a strong game.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
Okay, you mentioned correctly the offensive line. As far as
the past game is concerned, I have in the bad
list of Patriots running game where I really don't think
they struggled. You know, a couple of second efforts by Stevenson,
you know, got him three when there was not much
there or two when there was not much there.

Speaker 6 (35:16):
Twenty for forty eight, Yeah no, and a lot of
hiss in the backfield.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Too many runs for losses.

Speaker 6 (35:23):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Yeah, that was tough. That was tough to watch because.

Speaker 4 (35:27):
He gives it five for six, twenty five carries for
fifty four yards.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
He ended up getting I think two on that run
that we just showed right there where he should have
lost four.

Speaker 12 (35:38):
Yeah, you know, that was the third of his rushing
yards the whole day, right, I.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Mean, look at it this, he's tackled, should have been
tackled in the backfield. You see the line of scrimmage.
He got one when he should have been losing five
on that point.

Speaker 6 (35:48):
He's got this new thing now that he's he's starting
to like instead of plowing ahead, kind of stopping and try.
And that's a bad habit. That he's coming in that.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
Habit is developed because of what matches it could because
guy's in the backfield every time. Yeah, he's getting the ball.
So one of the things this is against the bad
run defense. According to Rich Semini.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
One of the things that they did a couple of
times that I thought was in trying to maybe get
the running game at least a little bit was the
quick toss, and I thought that that gave him at
least a little bit of a chance to try to
get down hill and run it and get it quicker
rather than the prolonged stretch it out and left it.
They tried.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
I mean, they tried different things. It's just nothing. Nothing worked.

Speaker 7 (36:26):
It's just weird to have your feel like your past
protection was better, but yet you're just you run fits
and you're you know, run blocking.

Speaker 12 (36:33):
Just can't seem to get going. It can't see.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
Patriots average st point nine yards of play today.

Speaker 12 (36:39):
It's a grind.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Yeah, that's why it was an imperfect win. It's amazing.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
Well, it's a it's a credit to the toughness.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
It was hard.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
Absolutely, they didn't get a lot of easy yards. Yeah,
they had to earn it.

Speaker 7 (36:49):
Michael, what else on your bad list, But yeah, I
had a lot of x's on the receivers. Uh, I
think I think we've touched on I'll argue one here's a.

Speaker 6 (36:59):
Bad I didn't like the decision at the end of
the first half to not to sit up, the decision
to sit on the ball and not go for you know,
try to get in position to get a field goal.
And the fans agreed.

Speaker 4 (37:11):
They you can make that argument.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Yeah, I didn't. I have a problem with it based
on situation score. I don't think they were going to
do anything with air. But I get it.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
I don't know the fact that the other team didn't
have any timeouts, to me, made it a free minute drill,
right like, if it's not going anywhere, then you just run,
start running, and you just run it, run the car.
So I didn't I didn't hate it, but I understand
where you're coming from. And then again this we can't
decide what we're gonna do. We're gonna run the ball
twice and kind of take our time, and now it's

(37:42):
third and one, we're gonna run to the line and
run a quarterback sneak right now. Ultimately, it didn't matter
because they got it. They didn't get the first down,
but they didn't have to punch because the clock was running.
I just felt like, if you want to try to
get something going, didn't get something going. They didn't, you know.

Speaker 6 (37:58):
It was almost like they're afraid to put it in Jefoby.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
But I didn't.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
I didn't hate it because of the situation. You get
your backup quarterback in the game, and yeah, I didn't.
I didn't have a lot else on my bad list
that the the the edges of the run defense were
a problem today.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
The one thing that I had additionally is who's covering Conklin?
Is it just that everybody else? Then they let him
go because he's.

Speaker 4 (38:19):
Not gonna I mean, you got del Pettes, you got
Marty Marple, you know who else? Jalen hawk Locks struggled.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
They all played, and one of the Hawkins playing him
between the two and the one right now? Is that
a shadow issue where the shadows involving him get him
right right between the.

Speaker 12 (38:39):
Think it was definitely a shadow.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
To shadows, shadows or illness one of the two. Ok, Yeah,
I mean Briest Hall, you know, average five yards to
carry and that's that's too much. Sure, that's too much
they did a better job with Alan, but Allen was
kind of the short yardage guy. He kept getting the
ball on third and one and getting the first down.
He got it on the goal line when he got
to you know, he got the touchdown at the end.
So his his average looks good defensively two point seven yards,

(39:03):
but he converted when he needed to.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
What did the Jets rush for as a team call?

Speaker 4 (39:08):
And thirteen yards?

Speaker 1 (39:10):
I mean improvement improvement, a fast improvement.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
Yeah, no, I mean you'd take that now. They didn't
run the ball that much, but yeah, I mean they
averaged four yards of carry. That's that's too much. But
it was better. And and I do think what I
I asked, I don't know about you guys. I asked
Christian Ellis earlier when we.

Speaker 12 (39:28):
Were talked to him both with him correct.

Speaker 6 (39:30):
I asked them, a you weren't here.

Speaker 4 (39:32):
I was texting was texting with Christian Ellis earlier.

Speaker 11 (39:36):
No.

Speaker 4 (39:37):
I asked him a little bit about the edges that
I thought were a problem. They had some kind of
funky runs. They came out with Alan and Hall at
times in that little pony package and they would run a.

Speaker 7 (39:47):
Quick my little pony pack, my little pony.

Speaker 4 (39:51):
I called it that little pony pack, if not my
Island package, and I thought that gave them some trouble.
I don't think they were ready for that necessarily early
in the game, but I do think they tightened that
up a little bit because there were a handful of
runs for Breese Hall that he got five yards before contact.
But you know, ultimately I thought it got better. And

(40:13):
you know, I think something Evan said early in the game,
I think kind of rang true. I think they could
have lined it up and run the ball and won
the game. And Rogers isn't interested.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
No, he's not. And I thought the exact same thing.
I thought, you know, this is the place. Just run it.

Speaker 4 (40:26):
They can't stop your first drive of the game. It's
it's second and eleven. They throw a pass from minus
one on the first play, very first play of the game.
Then they run Hall for like nine to set up
third and three from like the thirty three, and I'm
thinking to myself, just just run it twice off from
the forty. It looks, you know whatever, they weren't quite

(40:46):
in field goal range third and three and the Patriots
side of the field. First drive at the game, I'm like,
just run it twice, right. If you don't get it
in the first one, run it the second. Running on
fourth down, they throw it, Breese Hall drops the pass.
Now admite it. You know, in Rogers's defense, they should
have converted hit. I think it hit Hall in the face. Shadows,
shadows run so long right, correct, and then they end

(41:09):
up having a punt, like just just run the ball?
What are you oven thinking it for? But I think,
you know, I think Evan might be onto something with Rogers.
Doesn't want to do that just so I want to
stand there and hand the ball off. It's got to
be about him.

Speaker 7 (41:19):
See what's he gonna want to do now at two
and six? Delay a game on a Thursday night against
Houston's going to turn it around?

Speaker 11 (41:24):
It is?

Speaker 12 (41:25):
It is at home for the Jets.

Speaker 11 (41:26):
So by the way you.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Have it, still they're a vastly superior team.

Speaker 4 (41:29):
Yeah, but I give him. I give him a chance
on a Thursday night, a short week.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:32):
Okay, Now I think that, you know, based on their
effort today, I think they've mailed it in for the season.

Speaker 12 (41:37):
But we'll see to turn around.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
Does that mean you don't think Ulbrick is going to
get a shot at being the I asked.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
I asked in the second quarter today, is anybody ever
heard of an interim coach getting fired?

Speaker 1 (41:47):
Yeah? Right, because what's what's their move this week?

Speaker 17 (41:50):
Right?

Speaker 1 (41:50):
One week it was I know what the coaching changed.
The next week it's Adams. What do they do this week?

Speaker 12 (41:56):
Short week shuffle?

Speaker 1 (41:57):
All right, so we've got good, we've got bad. There's
one bad injury. Are we concerned about this long term?

Speaker 6 (42:04):
Well, not long term, but for the next week.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Absolutely, that's long term to me.

Speaker 12 (42:08):
I think retire.

Speaker 4 (42:10):
I would be concerned about it.

Speaker 6 (42:11):
You want to retire, Paul, Like, I don't know about
you guys, but I will not feel comfortable if I
have to watch.

Speaker 4 (42:18):
I mean, it's his decision. I would never tell anybody
what they should and shouldn't do with their career, but
I will not be comfortable having to watch.

Speaker 6 (42:25):
You're a caring person.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
It will make me. It will make me queasy.

Speaker 4 (42:28):
I know what if he wears two guardian But no,
I think concussions are long term concerns. I do you
never know. No, concussions are the same. But until I
learn about this one, right, you don't know. I will
be concerned that it is something that you know, Mike
Wright got a concussion and we never saw him again,
Like it was so severe that he couldn't even be
in a room without with lights on. So, you know,

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I don't know how many it took to get Mike
right to that spot. What did you think about how
many that Drake may has gone?

Speaker 1 (42:58):
They missed it? I don't think so. No, I don't
think it was a late slide. Okay, yeah, I was egregious,
but I think they missed it. And if you believe
the reporting, and that's a questionable decision maybe to make
it looked like when he got back to the sideline,
Jacoby Brissett was talking to him and he noticed something
was off.

Speaker 6 (43:19):
Yeah, people said he looked a little woozy.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (43:21):
Oh, I think he got up slow. I think it
was pretty clear. I couldn't believe that the independent neurologists
didn't buzz down and get him out of the game. Yeah,
but you know, he ends up, he ends up finishing
the drive and then he came out. But yeah, this
is and.

Speaker 6 (43:38):
It wasn't really even well, it was kind of a slide.

Speaker 4 (43:40):
But he hits him in the head.

Speaker 6 (43:42):
Yeah, he hits him in the head.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
But it's because late right.

Speaker 6 (43:45):
Right, Yeah, so I can't throw a flag.

Speaker 4 (43:48):
On that, like he doesn't know he's sliding, yeah, you know,
and then he slides. Yeah, I mean if he threw
a flag, I wouldn't be sitting here saying that's a
terrible call because it's helmet to helmet contact. But I
don't think.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
And I'm not going to stand up here, but really, if.

Speaker 4 (44:01):
That's a penalty, then there were seventeen other penalties that
weren't called in the game for helmet to helmet hits
on both sides.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
What did you think of the roughing the passer call
and Brissette that really extended the game win?

Speaker 6 (44:10):
He drives, I hit him in the helmet.

Speaker 4 (44:11):
I thought, I thought they hit I thought, yeah, but
I thought he hit him in the face.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
Okay, so that's reason that here's a flag right there?

Speaker 6 (44:17):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:18):
I mean Sam Donald is online too saying I don't
know why that's a.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
Penalty, right, But you know they took head off.

Speaker 4 (44:26):
By his face mask last week and there was no call.
But I thought that was I thought, you know, I've
seen that play flagged.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Oh yeah, fo yeah, was there and not to make
light or dismiss the May injury, because that's what all
anybody's gonna be talking about this week, is he's in
the protocol. Now when does he come out? Does he
come out? Can he play against the Titans? So that's
gonna be one absolute today.

Speaker 7 (44:49):
Yeah, yeah, I'd say it's gonna probably be a long
shotty places next week, I would guess.

Speaker 12 (44:54):
I mean, unless he's I can't guess.

Speaker 4 (44:56):
I don't know, that would be my guess because generally
guys that get concussions miss a game.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
Yeah, today doesn't count.

Speaker 4 (45:02):
No, Okay, no, you'll get a concussion in the game.

Speaker 6 (45:05):
It's not like a rule. It's just no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
I know that.

Speaker 4 (45:09):
And I bet you, And I'm sure that there's numbers
that you know someone has that says, well, actually it's
only forty eight percent, you know what. I just as
a general rule, when guys get concussions, they generally miss
the next game. Now, hopefully that won't be the case,
because I really don't want to watch the Titans in
the first place. On the Titans without drink May playing.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
Yeah, that could be a tough one. Uh, you guys
were upstairs. I didn't hear any other injury news being
reported from the Patriots side.

Speaker 6 (45:39):
One, I could back up, all right, I mean I
didn't see any offensive lineman down.

Speaker 7 (45:43):
Yeah, it's good to be good to get the same
group back out there. I mean, the Jets had had
a bunch, so I know C. J. Mosley was back
out again.

Speaker 6 (45:50):
Yeah, he had a hard it's a hard season.

Speaker 11 (45:52):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (45:53):
Yeah, Mostley Quinnin Williams was out for the game winning drive.

Speaker 15 (45:57):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (45:58):
Those are those big pieces in the defense, the safeties
that were out in the in the uh, in the
first half.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
But who cares?

Speaker 4 (46:07):
Yeah, this season's over. Yeah, well did you hear the
drop that that Matt played earlier? Jet Jets season is over?

Speaker 12 (46:15):
You know, fun stuff, just good fun stuff.

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Speaker 1 (50:50):
Sorry, it's distracted for a second gloating Paul Perillo about
his picks in the over under in the pregame show.
But I digress. The Patriots big twenty five twenty two
wins against the New York Football Jets. Let's go to
the TPX hotline and go join Christian first, who joins
us from Los Angeles. Go Dodgers and hello Christian.

Speaker 22 (51:09):
Hey, hello you guys, and happy Sunday.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
See you as to you as well.

Speaker 22 (51:13):
We gotta win.

Speaker 9 (51:15):
Yeah, thank you, guys.

Speaker 22 (51:16):
We gotta win, and I am totally thrilled. My first
question is can we play the Jets seventeen times in
a row?

Speaker 6 (51:23):
Let hey, we get the Titans next week. That's that's
a winnable game.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
I wouldn't want to do that. Yeah, I wouldn't want
to have to win like that seventeen times in a row.

Speaker 22 (51:34):
Well, you know what, I thought? It was actually a
quality win whenever.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
You of course, it was no question they had one
win coming in.

Speaker 4 (51:40):
Of course there was a quality wins in a row.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
Yeah, I saw.

Speaker 22 (51:43):
I mean, what do you mean you don't want to
win like that?

Speaker 4 (51:45):
Because I don't want to have to rely on the
other team doing all those things for my team to win.

Speaker 6 (51:49):
No, but if you're play them again now, you don't
drop those passes and you're running away.

Speaker 4 (51:54):
No, I'm talking about the drop the Jets.

Speaker 6 (51:56):
I know they're gonna continue to have.

Speaker 4 (51:58):
It saying I would rather be better than the team.
I'm with you, Fred, I think next week the Patriots
will be the better team. I'll take that one.

Speaker 6 (52:07):
It's always a good day when the Jets win. In
a better day when you beat them and look exactly
good win.

Speaker 22 (52:14):
Anytime you play harder than the other team, good things
are gonna happen. And that's what we did today.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
Yep.

Speaker 22 (52:19):
I agree, because bad things happen, and so playing hard
is the number one element and I got to give
the guys a just play harder than the Jets today.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Yep, I agree.

Speaker 22 (52:31):
Can we, I.

Speaker 4 (52:33):
Think play the other team.

Speaker 6 (52:35):
I think this week the pages should say I'm hard Jesus.

Speaker 11 (52:41):
Right.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Just one follow up on the good Win versus not
good Win. Very very good little bits of different things
that the analysis pregame by, you know, people like the
Worldwide Leader and everything. They're talking about how the Jets
going to make the playoffs at two and five and
what's the path to the postseason, the national media think
that the Jets are a playoff team, So I mean,
I don't think they're not anymore, not anymore, but they

(53:03):
not before the game, well they thought.

Speaker 4 (53:05):
I don't think they thought that. Today They were saying
what do they have to do it in the playoffs?

Speaker 1 (53:09):
Before the game. I think there's still a playoff team.

Speaker 4 (53:11):
I don't think. So okay, let's go to John and
getting killed and then on the worldwide Leader to use
your phrase, like on a weekly basis, there have been
breakdowns of Aaron Rodgers altitude every week.

Speaker 6 (53:22):
You don't bring in Adams if you don't think you
can turn it around. And now now it's over. Now
it's over, right, John and Vancouver you joined You're joining
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Speaker 23 (53:34):
Hello John, hey man, Well I think you're doing a
great job.

Speaker 6 (53:39):
Missed you.

Speaker 23 (53:39):
It's Sean by the way. That's okay, thank you, Hey, Paul,
agree with you. The coach has really got the team
up for this one. I was very impressed. You know,
they didn't get dominated at the line of scrimmage and
they you know, limited mistakes pre stamped. So that was
really I want to see them continue with that. That's
I think the next challenge is can they keep this

(54:00):
going and also can they work on actually dropping the
ball lest for the wide receivers.

Speaker 9 (54:05):
One thing that was kind of.

Speaker 6 (54:08):
Yeah yeah before.

Speaker 23 (54:13):
Fred, I wanted to tell you one of the players, yeah,
who was not dressed was Joshua if you're trying to
think of that name earlier.

Speaker 6 (54:23):
Yes, thank you. That's the third guy that was out today.

Speaker 14 (54:25):
Right.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
They missed him today, didn't they, Fred.

Speaker 4 (54:29):
He wasn't out, he was health screen wasn't playing, I know,
but they didn't want him to play.

Speaker 6 (54:35):
Whatever. It doesn't matter that he was one of the
starting line guys that wasn't playing today.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (54:42):
First of all, he played like eleven plays last week
and they wanted him not to play today. There was
something that's like saying Javon Baker didn't play last week,
that's why they didn't win.

Speaker 6 (54:50):
But there's something going on with.

Speaker 4 (54:51):
Yes, he's gonna get gonna trade him for a bag
of balls.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
John, thanks for sund sure thing. John.

Speaker 4 (54:58):
Sorry, Sean, Sean okay, but he already corrected.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
I didn't hear that. I apologize, That's okay, I apologize.

Speaker 4 (55:09):
Sean getting under Maxkin.

Speaker 23 (55:11):
That's fine, that's fine. I thought it was kind of
funny how they kept or the announcer, uh not to
agnew but kept U calling that booty.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
Uh no, BOOTI like coffee and tea.

Speaker 6 (55:28):
Everything was bo he I heard a couple of times. Yeah,
all right, Sean, by the way, for a n Matt right,
I'm only kidd.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Yeah, okay, yeah, sorry about that, Sean let anger. Yeah no, no, no, no,
no no anger. Ill love. Mark from Virginia Beach joins
us next on the Patriots post game show him Mark, Hey,
how you guys doing doing well? How are you?

Speaker 16 (56:01):
I'm doing good.

Speaker 22 (56:02):
I just got one thing.

Speaker 24 (56:05):
I'm anxious to see what Bill Belichick has to say
this week about how we responded.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
Do you want me to give you the do to
give you the breakdown?

Speaker 6 (56:20):
You know he won't say anything. Oh, I know he
won't be asked because but I'll tell you no, no, no, no,
there will be a lot of people like the rex
Ryans of the world that will say they responded.

Speaker 4 (56:29):
He'll have a lot to say about this game.

Speaker 6 (56:31):
Do you think so it'll all be about the Jets.

Speaker 4 (56:34):
I will guarantee you, because he hates he will a Visceray, Yeah,
you're right, You're right. It's his agenda this week. How
can I make the Jets look bad?

Speaker 6 (56:41):
It'll be about the Jets. He and Mike Lombardi.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
It's a good question, Mark question even Rogers.

Speaker 4 (56:48):
It's I mean, he's just like so good, right, Mark,
thanks for the phoneback, but I mean Rogerson.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
Going to the electronic mail. This is se him in Halifax, UK.
Love the show. Thought the secondary really struggle today, showing
the need for a real CB two to pear with
Gonzales can't match up with teams that have two legitimate weapons.
Do you think free agency of the draft is the
best place to address this?

Speaker 6 (57:12):
Both?

Speaker 1 (57:14):
Okay, it's a need and a lot of people are
sitting there talking about wide receiver and offensive line. They
need another quot.

Speaker 6 (57:22):
There isn't a second corner.

Speaker 4 (57:23):
Isn't anywhere near as big as need as the offensive line.
But you're like, like, derogatorily, somebody, people you know a
lot of people say that they need a receiver and
all they have all true.

Speaker 6 (57:36):
I mean, there isn't a place except for quarterback that
they don't need help, that they don't need help, right Brown, Well,
that's why.

Speaker 7 (57:41):
I think Jonathan Jones's U should today continues to be
interesting to me because he's not the full time out there.
I don't know what reason. I mean, he was on
the injury report this week. He's you know, banged up.
He's battling through stuff as he has usually been, but
he's a pending free agent. It's definitely something you have
to think about. Marcus Jones got a chance today. I
don't think any of us love the body work he
put together. I didn't love it at corner, but he's

(58:02):
decent in the They're gonna have to find a third
guy and it's probably, you know, not gonna be Jonathan Jones.
I'd be okay keeping Jonathan Jones, but I don't know
what he's going through. But he's not the player he
once was at this point.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
Dean in Liverpool in the UK said right Gerrodmeyo was
criticized for criticizing his team. It worked. The players fought
for every engine, played hard and showed they're still behind Mayo.
So happy for him and the players. I thought Christian
Ellis was outstanding besides giving up the PI. A practice
squad guy making big plays on defense, he deserves credit credit.

(58:35):
So ab.

Speaker 4 (58:36):
I would agree with all that. Christian Ellis just does
a nitpick, is not a practice squad player. But I
would say that everything that he said is true, it
doesn't mean it was the right thing to do. I
think they did respond, they did right, but that doesn't
mean that it was right.

Speaker 6 (58:52):
Yeah, he worked. He could have called him soft, but
just done it in the locker, right, right, right, which
he did. But you didn't have to go out public.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
But he's right.

Speaker 4 (59:00):
The emailer is absolutely right. They respond, they responded to.

Speaker 7 (59:04):
Did they I don't know. I mean, I got honest, like,
I don't really feel like this was a refreshed Patriots performance.

Speaker 6 (59:12):
I feel like they compared to the last two or
three weeks a little better, but not like overwhelmingly.

Speaker 12 (59:18):
Wow, this is a different team out here this day.

Speaker 6 (59:19):
They again, I hear what you're saying, but again, look
at that roster on defense today. I mean, you know, right,
but still.

Speaker 4 (59:31):
Like, but also have to be taken playing against.

Speaker 6 (59:34):
I understand, but this team, you know, manhandled you the
last time.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
That it was.

Speaker 4 (59:39):
They scored the same amount of points that they did
the last time.

Speaker 6 (59:42):
But you saw the game they gave up. They don't
have to score points at the end of the game.

Speaker 4 (59:46):
I don't think they're playing hard has been an issue.
I might be an idiot about that. I think they
I think they tried last year too. No, they for
the most part, I don't think that playing hard has
been a huge issue. But that's not a good offense.
They played today and they had their hands full. I mean,
I mean, I mean, I don't know what.

Speaker 7 (01:00:03):
I think they played better today, Like, no question, they
played better, But.

Speaker 6 (01:00:06):
Did I says.

Speaker 4 (01:00:09):
The other team?

Speaker 6 (01:00:10):
F No, they're not.

Speaker 4 (01:00:12):
That's they were missing all their safety Talking about their offense,
do you think the safety has had anything to do with.

Speaker 6 (01:00:18):
Offense? The Jets offense is just not good. It's not
under man but it's not good. That's the tragedy of
the Jets. They're they're not playing to their talents.

Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
Yeah, I think the quarterback is done. I think he's
playing to his talent. I don't think he can move.

Speaker 6 (01:00:32):
I think he's I think he's playing like a pissy diva.

Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
Okay, fine, but for whatever reason, he's not good anymore.

Speaker 6 (01:00:39):
The talent, the talent.

Speaker 4 (01:00:40):
He's had one good game all season.

Speaker 6 (01:00:42):
The talent against us. Right, But I'm telling you the
Patriots were mismatched our defense against their offense. I mean,
they have much more talent than we did.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
Okay, but it was a really good defensive perform.

Speaker 6 (01:00:59):
I think it was better than what we've done over
the last couple of weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
Hung as Mike said, I want to credit you for
I didn't see any big.

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
Runs, but you saw big passes.

Speaker 6 (01:01:08):
Yeah, and a lot of them was Marcus Jones, who
was what over man?

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
He's a starter, friend.

Speaker 4 (01:01:13):
I mean that's not that you're missing the point.

Speaker 6 (01:01:16):
The fact that he's a starter is because out of.

Speaker 4 (01:01:18):
The necessity, they don't have anybody better.

Speaker 6 (01:01:25):
So who's better as a cornerback that should be starting
over him?

Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
No one, but exactly. But he's the starter. But that's
because they don't But you said they're under manned.

Speaker 6 (01:01:35):
They they're under under.

Speaker 4 (01:01:37):
They don't have they didn't have peppers, and that makes
you under man.

Speaker 6 (01:01:41):
Okay, now he's gonna do the semantics thing.

Speaker 4 (01:01:43):
No, it's not. I'm I understand what Mike is saying.
I think he's making a good point.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
I would be how.

Speaker 6 (01:01:48):
Many teams would Marcus Jones be a starting quarterback on?

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
Not many?

Speaker 6 (01:01:51):
Not many?

Speaker 4 (01:01:52):
I have no idea, but you do and your being coy.
It's not he would not be a starting corner for
the team they played today. Okay, I'll just use the
team that was on the field. I'll take Gardner, Reid,
and Carter over Marcus Jones. Those three guys are better
than Marcus. I would say that. I don't know about
the other thirty teams. I understand what Mike is saying.
I would tend to side more with Matt and Fred

(01:02:14):
and say I thought this was a more spirited performance.
I don't think the result was all that much different.
I think you take away the punt return that Jacksonville
had last week, and it's the same points. I don't
think it was that much different. I thought they played
tougher today. I thought they made the other team earn
it today. I didn't allow the other team to line
up and run the ball seventeen times in a row today. Yes,

(01:02:35):
I'm a little bit more with Matt and Fred on
them responding to Mayo. But I totally understand what Mike
is talking about, and I don't think he should be
shot down.

Speaker 6 (01:02:43):
But that's all. But to expect this team to all
of a sudden be a good defense this year, it's
it's unreasonable, Larry, because they don't have talent.

Speaker 4 (01:02:55):
But didn't everybody go into the season saying they had
a top ten defense.

Speaker 6 (01:02:58):
I just listed all the guys that they lost.

Speaker 4 (01:03:01):
What you're saying, Marcus Jones, that's not one of them.
But he's a pillar for you, Marcus Jones Jones, And
that's a problem. But that's what they went into the
season with them.

Speaker 6 (01:03:09):
Everybody thought it was top They also had more complimentary
football up front that would help them back end.

Speaker 4 (01:03:14):
Missing the safety.

Speaker 6 (01:03:15):
You have to look at it as a whole.

Speaker 15 (01:03:17):
I do.

Speaker 4 (01:03:17):
I look at the safeties. It's you're talking about, Paul.

Speaker 6 (01:03:20):
It's very helpless.

Speaker 4 (01:03:21):
You could throw all your little buzzwords out. I just
don't think Mike is wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
That's all, thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:03:26):
I think Mike makes a good point.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
I just want to one in defense again him. I
made me and Marcus Jones. He did. He had a
tough matchup today. But I'd like to see when Reese
breaks down the snaps, how many snaps? He's not a
boundary corner. Paul, like Jonathan Jones, has become on this team.
The fact that I.

Speaker 6 (01:03:44):
Think he was Marcus Jones's assignment was to cover Garrett
Wilson one on one.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
And how they dialed it out.

Speaker 4 (01:03:50):
So you're questioning the coaching.

Speaker 6 (01:03:52):
No, it's they.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
There's no whether Jonathan Jones and I don't think he
played a lot today.

Speaker 4 (01:03:58):
Okay, maybe he didn't. Maybe maybe I missed it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
We have then they don't have a snap.

Speaker 7 (01:04:04):
I just think that last drive that the Jets put together,
if that had held up, would you have felt that
they responded to Mayo because I thought just because the
offense went down and I thought.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Rogers had plays on that got to back hit Adams
and he hit Wilson on two really nice throws. There
was one really gorgeous throw to Wilson where he got
in between the two defenders.

Speaker 4 (01:04:23):
With the difference in the game was the offense had.

Speaker 6 (01:04:25):
Going into this game. I was just hoping it'd be competitive.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
Same here.

Speaker 4 (01:04:29):
No, no, no, But I understand what Mike is talking about.
Like the difference to me was the offense made plays
and won the game at the end of the game.
That's the difference in the game.

Speaker 7 (01:04:38):
And because Male lit a fire just because they kind
of put it together for one drive at the end
that I mean, I'm not trying to take away from
the team responding, But I get your point. I'm just saying,
if that game had ended like I thought it would
when they went down at scoring.

Speaker 6 (01:04:50):
Are hoping that they become the defense that you thought
they were coming in, I know, not going to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
I know not happen.

Speaker 4 (01:04:57):
We're all saying that we overrated the defense. Then I
would say, Okay, I agree with you.

Speaker 6 (01:05:02):
I think the defense going into the season was better
than it is right.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
Now, and they've lost people on defense. Josh didn't play today.
Pats five hundred is a number. This gentleman Jay from
Arkansas wants to team up with Fred, So we must
defer on that. Oh, I don't know. I just I
just I just bang them that. Sorry about that. I

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just want to call back. Please.

Speaker 4 (01:05:28):
I understand what Mike is coming from. I would probably
lean more to you, Fred, to be honest. I just
I am trying to like.

Speaker 12 (01:05:34):
On the bad guy.

Speaker 6 (01:05:35):
No, I'm trying to get stand up front. It wasn't
eat daddy Putt.

Speaker 4 (01:05:39):
Yeah, I'm in the middle of you too. Like Mike's
point is valid, Like this, like the performance of the
defense wasn't all that different the ineptitude of the team
that they played was vastly different.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
Than played into it. How many yards did the Jags
run for last week one and seventy The Jets only
read for one hundred and thirteen today. That's progress. I
do believe that the Jets took themselves out of that.
If they were, maybe we were even more committed to
the run, but they would have run for more.

Speaker 4 (01:06:06):
But I think that they also moved the ball really
well all game, sure, and didn't score as much as
they probably should have. Like j from Arkansas, you miss kicks,
you miss field goals, your the fumbled snap to nobody
was in scoring range. Like they did a lot of
things to kill themselves the Jets.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
J from Markets. Are you with Fred or not with Fred?

Speaker 17 (01:06:30):
Hey, guys, I'm an unfiltered fan. Listen to you guys
at least a couple of times a week. Uh, yeah,
I'm totally behind Fred here. Uh, Paul, you've been you've
been officially fulgarized, and now you're infecting Mike over there.

Speaker 4 (01:06:47):
Don't don't blame me for what Mike said. That was
Mike's take.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
On Yeah, Jo, you're right.

Speaker 4 (01:06:53):
Jay, Paul looks for that opening and he goes right
through Jay hold on a second. I'm gonna you can
you can, you can you can respond afterwards. But Mike
had a take about the Patriots didn't really respond to mail.
That's not my take. Don't blame that on me. I
didn't say that. Mike did like this whole like this
Felger thing, the last guy in the world. The only
thing I want to be like Mike Felger is my

(01:07:14):
bank account. That's it.

Speaker 17 (01:07:16):
Well, maybe maybe that's for all of us to aspire
to one day. Hey, no, I just say, you know,
we can be in the weeds here. What what I
would like to just hear for a couple of days.
And I know you guys got to get in the
weed throats you wouldn't have any even to talk about.
But just let's let's be ecstatic at a win here.

(01:07:38):
I after Mayo, if he doesn't flip up on the
podium a little bit, and you use that term as
the and and let leap as to what he said
in the locker room about calling the guy soft. I mean,
is last week even an issue? Is there even any
quote unquote drama. No, it was all it was all

(01:07:58):
perspective and kind of not made up. But it was
a lot to do with out of nothing.

Speaker 6 (01:08:04):
Well, the problem is I think there's plenty of drama
without him having said that. Correct, respond thanks, Jay.

Speaker 4 (01:08:11):
He's also good man, but he's also created That's what
I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (01:08:15):
He created more.

Speaker 4 (01:08:16):
But you see, there's plenty of drama without that, right.
But I think the vast majority of Patriots related drama
this year has been created by Girod Mayo well by
saying that, Oh yeah, but that to me is Mayo
isn't control of the locker room, like what they say.

Speaker 6 (01:08:32):
Okay, oh like that's you know, that's fair.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
David from Madrid Spring, Spain writes, after a week of
criticism to Mayo for calling the team so often, it
looks like they actually stepped up, played hard and didn't
have a lot of penalties. That's a good point, by
the way, on the penalty, he is a good point.

Speaker 11 (01:08:47):
I was.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
Concerned that the wide receiver room was a micro cosm
of the team, but it looked like they were the
they were the only problem today I don't know about that.
That might be letting threast the team off hook. Only
one who gets a bit of a break is Booty
for being clutched on that last drive. Finally, the Jets
jetted and gave us a chance. Even if we go
two and fifteen, I'm happy with crushing the Jets playoff,
absolutely spoken like a true Patriot fan. Lastly, great Job

(01:09:13):
looked like he had an arm today and was the
captain of the offense. That's David in Spain. And I
don't think anybody's rooting for two and fifteen.

Speaker 6 (01:09:21):
But if at the end of the season, if one
of the wins is the Jets, I'll be okay, great
and the Bengals.

Speaker 4 (01:09:26):
You better not be happy, all right, our friend, that's
what he said. I'd be happy because we knocked the
Jets season, our.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
Friend pat from Agawam. Did I call it? Or did
I call it?

Speaker 6 (01:09:36):
He did?

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
Although I think I predicted twenty four to twenty one.
What did I say in the pregame show? I don't know.
Let's check the tape. Despite having more talented, Jets have
been doing Jets things all year. Hoping Drake is all right,
but huge props to Jacob today. Last, but not least,
Booty may be a legitimate wide receiver. I don't see
how you can go there yet. Maybe not a true number,
A true number one, a true number one where but

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he could bloss him into a weapon. That's Pat from Agawam.

Speaker 6 (01:10:00):
Listen, he could be a three, he could be a
you know, a big play guy. I'm not giving up
on him.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
I didn't say give up on him, but I don't.
I mean, I don't see. You see what he does, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:10:09):
You see what he does. He not only moves the goalpost,
he disassembles them and takes him down route one.

Speaker 6 (01:10:14):
Listen, I think if you're looking, if you're looking at
people who might be on this team next year, he's
on the list.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
He might be.

Speaker 4 (01:10:24):
So we just went fro him. He's a possible number one, said,
he's the number one, possible number one.

Speaker 6 (01:10:29):
I haven't had that, Pat from I said, he's a
number three.

Speaker 4 (01:10:33):
To he might be on the team next year.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
Yeah, they're getting anything out of Kashawn Booty on the
field this year, to me is borderline remarkable because I
just didn't think much of him. So that's how little
I thought of him. He gave you nothing last year.
I know he was in the doghouse after not getting
his feet in in Week two. Whatever that was. That's
a good play right there, and a really good throw.

Speaker 6 (01:10:55):
Yeah, he caught. He turned picked up the ball quickly.

Speaker 4 (01:10:59):
Thankfully he didn't lose it in the shadow.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
Wow shadows.

Speaker 6 (01:11:07):
So long.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
Colin in Seattle, Right, all I have to say, all
I have to say is eleven and six is still
in play. Absolutely real, is fred?

Speaker 4 (01:11:18):
I thought you were going to say that after the game.

Speaker 6 (01:11:20):
Well, I maget I come in with the proud.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
Thing, I thought. But I thought I liked the proud thing.

Speaker 4 (01:11:25):
When you started to take your shirt off, I thought
you were going to say, well, you know eleven and six,
Well I did.

Speaker 6 (01:11:32):
I was in the press box, so everyone knows. I
did start to take my shirt off, and then I
realized it wasn't a May win, So I said, after
a May winy.

Speaker 4 (01:11:40):
Does get the win.

Speaker 7 (01:11:41):
Yeah, joking aside, though that does kind of color it
a little different for me, Like just you know, we.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
Talked about wanting to come out of the season feel good.
It's like, but we can't really feel good though.

Speaker 4 (01:11:50):
True greats get their first win when they don't finish
the game.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
Drake Man Eldred in North Carolina. You're next from the
Patriots post game Show presented by Draft kings Hi Eldred Hey.

Speaker 15 (01:12:02):
Fellas Man y'all got me laughing. I love it when
you go ed it.

Speaker 4 (01:12:07):
Oh, look at this fight in Seattle.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
That's the way here for Eldred. That's the way here
for friend Seattle on Seattle. Yes, wow, but I.

Speaker 15 (01:12:15):
Got one bad I don't know if y'all left. Y'all
put it on the bad list. That's the coaching. Uh coaching, Simon,
when you're on the two, you're gonna go shotgun instead
of running what you call Stevenson four damn into that
from the two yard line. Got to get too cute
and kick a biel go even even though the quarterback

(01:12:35):
phase though, you got to call the game.

Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
Spirou spirou spro. I did write in my notes, Thanks Eldrid.
I wrote in my notes that that failure to score
and just settle for three was going to come back
and cost him. I really thought that. You know, I
don't think that they did a great job in that.
I don't I can't fumble by Brissette.

Speaker 4 (01:12:54):
Oh the fumble, Yeah that's what and.

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
Then allowsy fade. Who's who's the intended receiver in the fade? Born?

Speaker 4 (01:13:01):
Okay, Jalen Mills. I thought, boy knocked out.

Speaker 6 (01:13:04):
What took forever to get there.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
Huh yeah, yeah, all right, mattuh But.

Speaker 4 (01:13:08):
Yeah, I would agree with Eldred. I thought that that
play call in the first down play looks like you
were trying something a little different.

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
Yeah, and I'm not sure. I think that was a
lot of discussion before the game and after about how
the Patriots would respond to Gerard Mayo. Patriots beat to
Jets today, twenty five, twenty two. Let's hear from the
coach after the win.

Speaker 25 (01:13:28):
I thought it was a good team win. I thought
those guys, you know, even though we were down a
few guys, we always talk about the next men up mentality.
I think the safety has definitely, you know, stepped up today,
especially without having Dugger and Pepper's back there. I thought
the three of those guys did a good job, you know,
going back to the next men up mentality. You know,
you lose Drake there early in the game, and thought

(01:13:50):
Jacobe was ready to go. It wasn't perfect, hope, But
at the same time, I thought the operation was good.
I thought he made some good throws and we just
had to continue to build on it. I thought up front,
the pass pro was pretty good. There was a time
where ninety five started kind of taking over the game
a little bit. But I thought the guys again showed
the resilience that they've developed over the past few weeks.

(01:14:11):
Really proud of the guys. There are a lot of
There was a lot of noise and a lot of chatter.
I'm very appreciative of just their attitude and professionalism on
an everyday basis. I thought it was good. Look, I
would say the guys on special teams. I thought the energy.

Speaker 14 (01:14:24):
I thought the.

Speaker 25 (01:14:24):
Energy overall was better. It's good to get a win
here at home in Jiuleette.

Speaker 14 (01:14:30):
You want to have questions in.

Speaker 11 (01:14:32):
The back to Roda.

Speaker 5 (01:14:34):
I think you know with the week that was you
know here uh and it came down to sports can
be funny. It came down to a fourth and goal
at the one with twenty five seconds left. What did
that mean to you to watch your team rally together
and put it in but also come off hooting and hollering,
And what did you say to them responsing that locker room?

Speaker 25 (01:14:52):
It means a lot, you know, you know, when you
preach something and it shows up in the game, it's
always going to be more impactful. I would say, like
there comes to a point in time where everyone in
the stadium knows you got to run the ball, whether
you're talking about on defense, if we're on defense, or
if we're on offense. There comes a point in time
where they know, everyone knows, the fans know, everyone knows
as a run play, and you got to really just

(01:15:12):
defeat the man across from you. And look, Fortunately, our
guys got movement and we score it, So it was great.

Speaker 26 (01:15:21):
Kyle Dugar was out. Did dings report late? How'd you
guys have to do some last minute adjustments with him
out of the game. Looked like Jonathan Jones was playing
a little bit more safety than usual.

Speaker 14 (01:15:29):
Yeah, Jay Jones another guy.

Speaker 25 (01:15:30):
You know, we talk about versatility in our personnel, and
he knows every single spot, every single location. I would
also say, you know, I thought Marte did a good
job as far as controlling the huddle and you know,
just communicating overall, and those guys played well again, you know,
just to go back to the next man up. Not
to sound cliche or or redundant. That's the mentality that
we have to have if we want to build what
we want to build.

Speaker 16 (01:15:53):
A Gerrard point was made last week of the comments
of saying that the page. The team played soft. I
want to give you a chance this week different outcome.
What word would you describe to describe the way the
team played today.

Speaker 25 (01:16:05):
I don't think I've ever really questioned the resilience of
this team, and I'm not going to go back to
those comments. What I will say is we have a
room full of guys with the mentality that you know,
you got to change the page every day. Every day
is a new day, and we have to get better
and understand that practice is the most important thing we
do until we get to the to the game.

Speaker 27 (01:16:23):
So I think it was four yards per carry aloud?
For you guys defensively today, what did you do this
week to get some improvement as far as that part
of your defense?

Speaker 25 (01:16:33):
It was under four yards of carrier? I think it's
three point nine. But now you know, it really is
the guys that's going out there and executing. I mean,
there's no magic pill or magic drink or anything like that.
It's a mentality, a mentality that we're going to stop
the run. And I thought for the most part today
we did stop to run. You know, I'm saying that
we'll go back and watch the film. There were a
few that that popped on us a little bit, and

(01:16:54):
we'll get those correct.

Speaker 16 (01:16:56):
Edroid, you talked about the noise and the chatter this week.
What would you say you learned about yourself, you know,
throughout this week.

Speaker 25 (01:17:02):
Oh for me, Look, I don't I don't hear that stuff.
You know, you talk about adversity, talk about chatter. It
will always be there. I think there's a difference between
like noise and signals. So if I can pick up
on signals of what's coming out the locker room from
you know, you guys talking to the players, that's that's great.
The rest of us just noise to me, and and

(01:17:22):
my ultimate goal is to get this team better every
single day.

Speaker 28 (01:17:27):
Drod, you mentioned seeing resilience from this team that you
had kind of they built up the last few weeks.
How and where did you see them build that resilience
over the past few weeks.

Speaker 25 (01:17:36):
I think I've told you guys, you know, I thought
the past three weeks of practice have been pretty good
and it's good to see that show up in the game.

Speaker 29 (01:17:45):
Gerard, we saw thank you, Gerd. We saw Draco down
in the second quarter.

Speaker 7 (01:17:49):
How is he doing if you have any update on
him after this game.

Speaker 25 (01:17:52):
Yeah, I walked in at halftime and some and you
know the competitor that he is, obviously he wanted to
go back out there and play, but there's a protocol
that he has to go through.

Speaker 14 (01:18:01):
And again, can't wait to get him back.

Speaker 30 (01:18:06):
Coach, it seemed like the Run Game struggle to get
things going for most of the game, but started to
kind of figure it out a little bit later. Was
there something specific that you saw that kind of helped
them get back on track? And also just I know,
the resiliency We keep saying it, but we saw from Jacobi,
from Kaishaan, from those guys up front. So could you
maybe add what you thought about said?

Speaker 25 (01:18:20):
I always say like in the Run game, you know,
there are certain philosophies where three yard runs not a
good run. But if it's physical to me, you know,
I liking it to boxing. Those are body blows. If
you get enough of those body blows, you get to
the second half, then you start to pop some bigger runs.

Speaker 14 (01:18:34):
And I think that's what happened today.

Speaker 31 (01:18:37):
They coach the second quarter, fourth quarter, towards the end
of it, you had the similar situation two minutes to go,
two timeouts, but you took it, hope. Obviously different approaches,
So I wonder what your thought about those two different situations,
And do you feel that I'll come up the game
will give you more confidence to play aggressively more aggressively
going forward.

Speaker 14 (01:18:57):
When we you know, I'll just talk about the end
of the half.

Speaker 25 (01:19:00):
You know, at the end of the half you lose
your starting quarterback and you just want to get the
clock run and just so we can reset at halftime.
And that was really the mentality there. I know the
fans and stuff they don't like. They don't like it,
and I always want you to try to go out there,
but I would say it was just a chance for
us to get in the locker room and hit the reset.

Speaker 32 (01:19:16):
But Hi, Dren, we were aware that Juwan Bentley addressed
the team. I know other leaders did as well. John Jones,
how much did that leadership play a role in helping
turn things around or at least getting the right message across.

Speaker 14 (01:19:38):
Yeah, to me, you know, it's always been that way.

Speaker 25 (01:19:41):
You know, the head coach has a message and you
you lean on your captains or your leaders on the
squad to disseminate that message and reinforce that message. Amongst
the rest of the group. And I thought those guys
did it this week. Now, Yeah, that's what I thought.

Speaker 14 (01:19:53):
Chris Bryan on.

Speaker 33 (01:19:54):
Your left, Hey, Rod, obviously you send a message to
the group and you see this type of response today
and a type of buy and that's the group obviously demonstrated.
What does what does that mean your kind of big
picture about you as a coach and also you know
this group playing for you.

Speaker 25 (01:20:13):
Yeah, I'm not sure what it means is you know
for me as a coach Personally, I'm proud of the
guys in the locker room and how they approach each
and every day, no matter what was going on. And
it's not just the media as far as noise. It's family,
it's friends, it's all of that stuff. It's social media,
it's all of that stuff. And I thought the guys, look,
they hear it, and at the same time, you just
don't listen to and you just continue to go in
the practice shoud and get better.

Speaker 34 (01:20:33):
And I thought we did that. I tried look like
a helmet to helmet hit that took out Drake. Did
you have any conversations with the officials on that and
were you kind of surprised that Pelley wasn't called.

Speaker 25 (01:20:47):
You know, they didn't call it. I had conversations with
them the entire game. I thought, you know, some of
those calls were questionable. But at the same time, I
have to go back and watch the film and we'll
have those conversations.

Speaker 28 (01:20:59):
Not to believe with the resiliency tag here, but if
anyone personifies that you could, I could argue Rimandi Stevenson
does what he's gone through this year. I had a
few big plays here, I know, not a lot of yards.
Can you talk about him? And he was not in
first and goal from the two which you kicked the
field goal for the first two plays, Why was any
and then just asking.

Speaker 25 (01:21:19):
Yeah, Ramandre is one of our best players. I haven't
backed down from that at all. You know, there was
some tempo on there and didn't have the opportunity to
get him in at that time.

Speaker 11 (01:21:28):
Good.

Speaker 1 (01:21:28):
Thanks, Well, there's your head coach, Gerard Mayo after the
Patriots beat the Jets Date twenty five, twenty two. A
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England Patriots. How do you rate the coach's presser.

Speaker 6 (01:21:46):
Fred He too is proud of the team. Yeah, so
there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
You feel comfortable in your proud moment.

Speaker 4 (01:21:53):
It's his team, it's my team, make sense and your team.
But it's my take. I think it makes a little
more sense.

Speaker 6 (01:22:03):
To be proud.

Speaker 7 (01:22:05):
I'm proud of that, I'm proud of you, I'm proud
of myself and.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
You get a car. Well, I mean there's a there's
a tendency to be a little giddy with the team.
That there was no expectations coming into the game today.
And I like the business like manner that your Rod
answered the questions nothing but that he didn't want to
really get into the whole week and the drama and
everything like that. Straightforward answering questions, I think.

Speaker 4 (01:22:29):
If we wanted to get into that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
But I thought he did a good job.

Speaker 6 (01:22:34):
Sometimes he just tends to go say too much and
I think he edited himself nicely.

Speaker 4 (01:22:41):
So let me just ask this. Let's go to Mike
Duso's scenario. The drive ends up a yard short at
the end of the game, or even worse, they go
four and out, and the Jets just kneeling the ball
and win the game. And then he's asked those questions,
does he edit himself?

Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
Yeah, I mean I don't.

Speaker 6 (01:23:02):
I still think it's a close game, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:23:04):
Yeah, I know it's a close game that they lost,
and I think he'd be emotional, and I think we
probably would have something else that would be tray, but
some other fire would be putting out this game.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
But let me ask you this question, Paul. You came
in when we started here and you said you thought
that they played hard. I do you know?

Speaker 4 (01:23:18):
And I stick by that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:20):
Do you believe that? Would you have said the same
thing if they did go four and out and the
Jets took a knee and they win.

Speaker 4 (01:23:26):
The game, I would say the same thing.

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
I don't. The result depended, I don't, and I would
totally agree with you.

Speaker 7 (01:23:32):
Yeah, they just didn't have the horses at the end
to get the stop that they needed, nor get the
last scorer correct that they needed.

Speaker 4 (01:23:37):
But I would can I would say, how much are
you going to ask of an offense that's already limited?
You know, they went down and took the lead once
in the fourth quarter, you asked them to do it twice.
Now thankfully they did it twice, but that's how I
would look at it, had they they come up short.

Speaker 7 (01:23:50):
I mean I said it in the pregame show. I
felt like all week they were kind of throwing the
specifics out. They were saying, you know, we're not going
to talk about the past protection issues that we just
need a win. That's just what we need tonight. So
that's why I take that press conference as we got
the win. It wasn't perfect correct, there are issues that continue.

Speaker 1 (01:24:05):
To haunt a lot of stuff to work.

Speaker 4 (01:24:06):
But I just wonder in that double had they not
gotten the win, if the message would have been the same.

Speaker 6 (01:24:12):
Demonstrated ability, empathetical codings.

Speaker 1 (01:24:14):
Because thought experiment.

Speaker 4 (01:24:16):
They won, we don't we don't have to wonder what
would have happened if they lost.

Speaker 1 (01:24:19):
An old ball coach used to say, demonstrated ability. You
need to show them that so they could get some
confidence to do it. Trevor Trevor in Kansas City Rights,
I've been pretty low in the coaching staff, but Peters
might actually be Legit seems a little, I mean a
little premature.

Speaker 4 (01:24:37):
Also the last on one game that they had good
pass protection.

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
Also, he adds last time our first round draft, first
round drafted quarterback got knocked out of the Jets dot
dot dot.

Speaker 12 (01:24:47):
Well, we didn't put see any harsh there.

Speaker 7 (01:24:51):
Now, that's I mean, it does it colors this win though,
it's I mean, that's the unfortunate part. I feel good,
and I mean I think Jacoby Wesset like, I'm kind
of happy for him. But what does that mean in
the grand scheme of the twenty twenty four Patriots and
building for the future. It's like, yeah, they got a
nice win and there's probably a little bit more buy
in this week, and guys don't quite feel that tension
that I'm sure they were feeling last week. But at
the same time, you want Drake May to get back

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in there. You want to start to see progress. You
want to see guys like Booty, you know, developing their
connections so that you're thinking about these are things that
are sustainable into twenty twenty five.

Speaker 6 (01:25:20):
Good question here from one quick question Paul. Anybody on
your straw man Twitter saying that we see they shouldn't
have played May see what happened?

Speaker 4 (01:25:29):
So I I you know it fun that's a good question.
I haven't I haven't been on Twitter much, but I
have not seen anything like that. I'm just refreshing now.

Speaker 6 (01:25:36):
Because anybody that says that should have their football card
taken away.

Speaker 14 (01:25:40):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:25:41):
Yeah, I kind of understand where Mike is coming from, though,
like it does take away from the win a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:25:47):
Sure, it's nice, but what does it mean. Here's a
question for you, Paul from Mark and Cheddar. When stopped
on third down with twenty five seconds left, why call
time out then? Rather do it with less than five
seconds to go? Surely it's make or break. Why give
time for a potential hail Mary response? I appreciate the
clock stradamis.

Speaker 6 (01:26:05):
But they know the ref stop the clock because they
had to review it, right or something. No, it was
a scoring play, so it stops.

Speaker 4 (01:26:13):
No, it wasn't a scoring play on third down. Let
me go back and look what the remondre one. Let
me go back and look here.

Speaker 6 (01:26:19):
I don't know what he's talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:26:20):
Yeah, I mean, I so Brissette pass, so he's right, Yeah,
I think that was a I think that was a mistake.
So the Brissett passed for four yards set up fourth
and goal from the one with twenty five seconds left.
I have no problem with calling time out. But I
would have let the clock go down to a little
bit more, no ten seconds, right, a little bit more,

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and then called time out because that way right in
the game. And the reason why I wouldn't go down
it's not a last second field goal. So on fourth
and goal from the one, if you let the clock
go down to two seconds, this is the last play
of the game. If there's a penalty, you know, even
let's say they had a holding penalty or something, that's
game right, you know. So that's why I would have

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ten seconds. Now I can run another play, and if
there's a penalty on the defense, there's still time.

Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
You know, here's a series right here on your screens
with thirty two seconds left to go, and so so.

Speaker 4 (01:27:16):
They called time out with twenty five seconds there, So
Mark is right. I would have let the clock run
down a little bit more to make sure that. I mean,
obviously the Jets aren't going to go down and kick
a field goal with twenty seconds left and no timeouts.
But you know, you play it. You know, miracles happened,
you never know. I would have called time out, yeah,

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I think, but it was.

Speaker 6 (01:27:39):
I don't know, where's that ball? I don't know where's
the look the oh, he didn't even have he didn't
even have possession. That was the problem. He didn't even
have possession. Huh, Yeah, he double clutched it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
Well, you can't see it from this look.

Speaker 4 (01:27:55):
Yeah, I mean I can see where the line is though,
and I think, I mean, but.

Speaker 1 (01:28:00):
He might the ball at this point in time.

Speaker 4 (01:28:02):
I think he doesn't look the double on the other angle,
so he doesn't get possession until the ball is over
the line. Touchdown, I know.

Speaker 7 (01:28:11):
I know that's a weird nuance where his knee is down,
but if he doesn't have possession yet, then it would
be a touchdown.

Speaker 6 (01:28:17):
So I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:28:18):
I think he was down. I think he had the
ball in his hands. I didn't see any double clutch.

Speaker 6 (01:28:22):
That's not the that's not the better look. The angle
was from back of the end.

Speaker 4 (01:28:26):
To the correct These guys are really tough.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
Do you haven't babble with there, Paul? No, okay, another
question for Paul.

Speaker 4 (01:28:35):
But it might have been in. I'm not saying Fred's wrong.
It might have been in.

Speaker 1 (01:28:38):
Someone please take away the diet pepsi from Paul. This
is from Johnny and Madtown. He's clearly too caffeinated this afternoon.
You'd think we lost with everything he's arguing about.

Speaker 6 (01:28:47):
Only kidding, he says he's thinking ahead to his parent.

Speaker 4 (01:28:51):
On you got me on that one, because I don't
have any negativity in this game. Help Mike.

Speaker 1 (01:28:57):
He's right about Marcus Jones. I've said it for weeks now.
He's not a good cornerback, but is out there as
a body that can at least play the position. I'd
like to see him on offense more often than not.
The return today exactly, why give him the ball quick
and watch him work.

Speaker 7 (01:29:11):
I think Marcus Jones is you know, a slot corner,
and that's yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:29:15):
I think he's a good He's a guy where he's double.
He's part of a double team on a fast receiver,
you know, to minimize damage.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
This is I'm here for these kind of emails for
Paul and Mike moving the goalpost from John so we
get embarrassed in a Thursday night game. The talk was
it wasn't a work ethic but overmatched in talent. Now
the defense doesn't get credit this game. While they add
I give Adams because Rogers isn't good anymore. I give
one game he had as Paul says, was that very
gaming beat us. Also sad to see Paul trying to

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argue the talent gap between Marcus Jones and Garrett Wilson
shaking my head, giving me a ninety eight to five vibe.

Speaker 4 (01:29:52):
I give him credit for playing better defense. Sounded like
it than they did last week.

Speaker 6 (01:29:56):
Sounded like it.

Speaker 12 (01:29:57):
I thought they played better.

Speaker 4 (01:29:58):
I don't know how many times I can say it.
No one wants to listen.

Speaker 12 (01:30:01):
I thought they played better.

Speaker 7 (01:30:02):
I just didn't see an overwhelming inspired effort from a
team that took wards from the head coach to heart
and came out with something to prove. I saw a
team that hung on, fought hard, tooth and nail, which
I kind of think they've done all season. It wasn't
to me a night and day effort. So I think, yes.

Speaker 6 (01:30:20):
They I think you still have, you know, visions of
what it could have been. And this this team, for
this team, for that roster on defense was maybe as
good as they could be.

Speaker 1 (01:30:32):
Yeah, when they get a team off the field, MIC,
it's it's almost cause for celebration.

Speaker 7 (01:30:36):
Well, I don't mean, I don't think it's quite that extreme.

Speaker 12 (01:30:38):
I mean they they started off okay, like they forced some.

Speaker 4 (01:30:41):
That's my My only pushback is we've now accepted the
fact that we can't stop anybody, so when we do
stop them, we you know, it's good defense.

Speaker 6 (01:30:49):
Yeah, especially with that that you know, I think.

Speaker 4 (01:30:52):
I think it was fine today. I'm not as you know,
and I'm not killing you, Mike. I'm not as negative
on it as Mike is.

Speaker 6 (01:30:58):
Mike's very sneaky negative, and today is not sneaking around.

Speaker 4 (01:31:01):
But I also writetive, I also like, I think you
played a pedestrian team with a less than pedestrian offense,
and you did better than you did last week.

Speaker 1 (01:31:10):
They might be a pedestrian team. I don't think that's
a pedestrian offense.

Speaker 4 (01:31:12):
In mind, it's a less than pedestrian offense. Just the
best part of the team is defense.

Speaker 1 (01:31:16):
Justin in New Hampshire, writes, Paul and Fred go from
wanting to tear each other's head off to singing a
spirited duet of baby I Love your way in.

Speaker 4 (01:31:24):
This is why just football it's supposed to be fun, right.

Speaker 1 (01:31:27):
This is why I've listened for almost twenty years. My hats.

Speaker 4 (01:31:31):
I don't know about you, but I am not going
to nobody knows what you're talking about, Paul. I'm going
to explain it. I'm not going to be comfortable watching
bo Nicks have to play anymore. After that helmet to
helmet hit that I.

Speaker 6 (01:31:41):
Squat red zone grabbing. It looks like where an watching.

Speaker 4 (01:31:52):
It's not even red zone.

Speaker 1 (01:31:53):
By the way, God, that's a terrific jingle, good song,
and unfortunately red zone time watched this right ready, boom
head to head, that's nothing.

Speaker 15 (01:32:10):
In the head?

Speaker 4 (01:32:10):
Hop it are you kidding me?

Speaker 6 (01:32:12):
That's not helmet to helmet?

Speaker 4 (01:32:14):
So do you think that Drake, maybe it wasn't helmet
to helmet. I said it wouldn't bet. I wouldn't have
thrown No. I didn't ask if it should be a
flag it was. I'm asking if the helmet's hit. Yes, okay,
well the helmets just hit on that. I wouldn't have
called the flag. He's a runner and he got hit
in the head. I mean, I don't know about you.
I'm a little queasy now. I don't know what's gonna happen.

Speaker 6 (01:32:31):
All right, all right, Lawrence Nightingale.

Speaker 1 (01:32:37):
Mat the Patriots are I know I was going to
go to the quarterback press conference. The Patriots win twenty
five twenty two. Let's hear from Jacoby Brisseat, who authored
the comfort behind victory.

Speaker 11 (01:32:48):
Or to Win.

Speaker 35 (01:32:49):
I think that was the encompass of a lot of
things throughout the season. You know, just hoping this is
a snowball effect and you know, start something special.

Speaker 11 (01:32:58):
I let's see you go on your left, Jacoby.

Speaker 3 (01:33:00):
There have been other drives this year in late in
the fourth quarter where things did not work out. Take
us in the huddle for this final drive. What happened
in terms of confidence and execution that allowed you to
pull this drive up to get the win?

Speaker 11 (01:33:13):
Yeah? I thank it is Goss.

Speaker 35 (01:33:15):
Just believing in each other, you know, and taking it
one play at a time, you know, just you know,
to start to drive. Everybody's like, man, no matter what,
you know, just one play at a time, one player
of time.

Speaker 11 (01:33:25):
That's that's that was the message message.

Speaker 35 (01:33:28):
You know, before the two minutes started, and you know
when guys went out there and made plays and and
you know you kind of just black out and just
played football after that.

Speaker 27 (01:33:40):
Can you take us through the throw to Kayshawn at
the end, took a good shot to your lower half.
It looked like, did you know the hit was coming
and you know what, what'd you see on that play?

Speaker 3 (01:33:49):
Uh?

Speaker 35 (01:33:50):
No, I didn't, I mean I didn't see it. Uh,
he made a Kaysehan made a great play.

Speaker 11 (01:33:54):
Uh.

Speaker 35 (01:33:54):
You know, I felt like I underthrew it as soon
as it came off my hand. I was like like, damn,
you know that that that's the one. But he made
an unbelievable play. Uh played that we needed at that time.
And Uh the safety had tilted the opposite way away
from the X, which was or Kaysehan was lined up in.

Speaker 11 (01:34:10):
He did the rest.

Speaker 35 (01:34:11):
I was a mirror, you know, specl on to play.

Speaker 11 (01:34:16):
Hey Jacobi.

Speaker 29 (01:34:16):
Through the first seven games, there were seven different offensive
lines starting combinations and this was I think the second
time that this group got a chance to play together
to start a game. What were your thoughts watching them
initially in terms of drive, talked about body blows even
on two three yard runs, applying body blows to the
Jets defense. Did you see them coming off the ball
in the in the start of this game a little

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bit differently? And what would you say overall about their
performance today?

Speaker 35 (01:34:41):
Yeah, you definitely saw the confidence build throughout the game.
You know, they the Jets have a good d line,
you know, and obviously getting hassigned back this week was
a was I mean, it was a boost for them.
And you know, those guys knew that they had a challenge,
and you know, you can see it, you know, I mean,
as I was in the game, you can see it
as as those guys are guys, you know, confidence starting
to build and and you know, acting for plays on

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the sideline and bond into the plan and you know, communicating.

Speaker 11 (01:35:07):
So I thought he'd did a hell of the job.

Speaker 16 (01:35:12):
Jacoby. We could hear the celebration in the locker room
echoing down the tunnel. Can you just take us through
what it was like coming off the field into that
locker room, having this first win at home six weeks
since six past six weeks haven't gotten your way? What
was it like coming into that locker room and sharing
that environment with your teammates.

Speaker 35 (01:35:29):
Yeah, ec uh, you know, winning the NFL is hard.
I know y'all don't think that, but it's hard. And
you know, the guys that have worked hard throughout the
throughout the season. But going back to training camp and
you know, we've we've we've been in the lull. You know,
things haven't been been going our way, you know, but
today the ball bounced our way, and you know, to
celebrate that and and and you know, experience that with

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the with the guys. You know, it's a great learning
tool for young guys for one, but you know, also
for our team. It's just like, you know, if we
just stick to the state of course, they stick with
the process, you know, and you know, sometimes you get
lucky enough and the ball bounce your way.

Speaker 26 (01:36:06):
Did you go around no team first? But you didn't
like being benched? It's just no one does.

Speaker 11 (01:36:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 26 (01:36:11):
How does this feel for you personally to have a
little bit of a redemption story here today and lead
a team down the field.

Speaker 11 (01:36:18):
As no redemption? You know?

Speaker 35 (01:36:20):
Uh, I think this is a testament to me believing
in myself, uh and not y'all.

Speaker 11 (01:36:25):
And and I'm very aware of that. And you know
I was.

Speaker 35 (01:36:29):
I was very fortunate at it, you know, to have
this opportunity and to go out there and you know
and get a win, you know, with our guys.

Speaker 11 (01:36:37):
You know, it was you know, it's sweet.

Speaker 35 (01:36:39):
I mean, you can't put it into words, but you know,
I'm not trying to like be arrogant or nothing, but
I'm very proud of myself today.

Speaker 30 (01:36:47):
And Kobe also to that point. Obviously getting benched isn't easy,
but showing the resilience you did today. Was there anything
about maybe having that time, I know you're a really
introspective guy, whether it was perspective or maybe just feel
a little healthier that helped you with that time compared
to you know, actually getting in the game.

Speaker 35 (01:37:00):
Uh No, just you know, believing in myself, you know,
and uh, sticking to what I know is right, and
you know that I can play in this league it is.
I don't look at as as anything else but that,
you know, and like I said, you know, just believing
in myself and going out there and and doing what
I know I can do on a day in and
day out process and basis and and you know these

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are the results.

Speaker 11 (01:37:24):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:37:25):
I know, some real pillars of one the media good
Guy Award in the past at the end of the year,
guys like Matt Judah and real real good guy. If
this guy doesn't win the good Guy Award, there's something wrong.
Like that's a nice thing.

Speaker 12 (01:37:39):
To happen for a like that.

Speaker 1 (01:37:41):
Yeah, nice story.

Speaker 6 (01:37:44):
He came as advertised good guy, real pro proud of him,
proud of him. I'm proud of him.

Speaker 4 (01:37:49):
It's hard not to feel. And I'm being as serious
as you can be, it's hard not to feel happy
for him. Yes, individually today, which is why I had
him on my good list. I don't think his performance
was either worldly or anything like that.

Speaker 6 (01:38:01):
But he's stuck in there. You know, he had some
tough off throws and he's stuck.

Speaker 1 (01:38:06):
With it, and he had a lot off he did.

Speaker 6 (01:38:08):
He did that to throw the throw to Booty. I
mean there were guys all over his legs.

Speaker 1 (01:38:15):
He threw that ball nice away.

Speaker 4 (01:38:17):
Phil Perry described it. I think it's accurate. There was
a guy that was making him sort of step up,
and he was going to have to throw the ball
and probably knew he was going to get hit.

Speaker 6 (01:38:25):
I don't even think he had his base at that point.

Speaker 4 (01:38:27):
And throw it and and it was it was good.
It wasn't perfect. He said he thought he underthrew it.
It was good enough. And I thought, you know, they
led more scoring drives today than than they had previously
in any game with him playing. So I think he
did a great job.

Speaker 12 (01:38:42):
And they're probably gonna need him next week.

Speaker 1 (01:38:44):
I would anticipate that's what you guys are saying eight
five five pats five hundred the TPX Hotline. Let's go
to Kevin in San Francisco, who's next on the Patriots
postgame show?

Speaker 10 (01:38:53):
Hello Kevin, Hey, guys, I gotta I gotta tell you
we we won this game because the Jets coaching staff
is that much worse.

Speaker 9 (01:39:05):
Than ours, And that's saying a lot.

Speaker 24 (01:39:09):
How do you get how did you check? Like the
layer of game penalty on the two point conversion. I've
never seen that.

Speaker 1 (01:39:16):
Before, guys, just the second year in the league.

Speaker 6 (01:39:19):
So point two point, you go in with a play.
It's not like you're figuring it out.

Speaker 1 (01:39:24):
He is coaching. He's right, Yeah, he's right.

Speaker 24 (01:39:28):
So when they rip on mail and all these young
guys like coming in whatever that haven't done this before,
let's just go to some people that have done it
before and make stink like.

Speaker 4 (01:39:37):
Well this guy hasn't done it before, has he? No,
he's never done it.

Speaker 1 (01:39:41):
And he looked it was the third game.

Speaker 7 (01:39:43):
Yeah, they were through their all their timeouts, like in
the first quarters.

Speaker 4 (01:39:47):
There's three times in one.

Speaker 1 (01:39:48):
Quarter, right, Kevin, very good call, an excellent point on that.
I think the Jets coaching staff overmatched.

Speaker 4 (01:39:55):
I thought that they had some individual times today where they.

Speaker 1 (01:39:59):
Did not pre snap penalties, which I they did not
have to coach. Well, you know, Larry in New Hampshire,
you're next in the Patriots postgame show. Hello, Larry, you.

Speaker 6 (01:40:06):
Got to hang up with Kevin for to hang up
with him?

Speaker 1 (01:40:08):
Hello, Larry, Hello Larry, Larry, Hello, Lauren, Hey, Tobuke.

Speaker 36 (01:40:14):
How's it going.

Speaker 1 (01:40:15):
Hey, how are you?

Speaker 17 (01:40:17):
Hey?

Speaker 36 (01:40:18):
I'm doing good. How are you going?

Speaker 1 (01:40:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:40:20):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:40:20):
Good? How about you?

Speaker 6 (01:40:22):
How's the kids?

Speaker 15 (01:40:23):
Hey?

Speaker 36 (01:40:23):
Yeah, I'm doing great.

Speaker 15 (01:40:24):
Hey.

Speaker 36 (01:40:24):
I was just wondering. I was just looking at the
toughness in the first quarter versus the toughness in the
second quarter. And I just want to know if you
guys think that, you know, this might be an excuse
to play Jakobe in the future, or if it might
be a learning curve for Drake May and the team

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moving forward.

Speaker 6 (01:40:51):
H I don't quite understand.

Speaker 4 (01:40:53):
If Drake May is healthy, he'll play.

Speaker 6 (01:40:54):
Yeah, but like is he's saying that they weren't as
tough when May was in there.

Speaker 36 (01:41:00):
Yeah, that's that, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (01:41:01):
Fred, Yeah, okay, hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:41:04):
As determined how Larry did you would give me an
example of where you saw a lack of toughness when
Drake May was in the game.

Speaker 36 (01:41:13):
I just saw them relying on the quarterback a lot more.

Speaker 6 (01:41:18):
I don't know. I do wonder though had made the call, Larry,
I do wonder if May had kept playing with the
Jets have played defense differently than they did when Prissette
was in.

Speaker 12 (01:41:29):
I don't know what they adjusted to his mobility a
little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:41:31):
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 12 (01:41:32):
I don't know either.

Speaker 4 (01:41:33):
Yeah, either that or Drake May might have rushed for
one hundred yards in this game, because I thought that
they had a lot of lack of.

Speaker 1 (01:41:38):
Discipline in the pass rush in the game.

Speaker 4 (01:41:41):
They didn't blitz a lot, which I was also surprised that,
because it was so successful in the first game, they
didn't really go after the quarterback at all in the game.

Speaker 1 (01:41:48):
Weren't you surprised they didn't blitzset both, Yeah, both guys.

Speaker 4 (01:41:54):
I think they probably figured that they wouldn't need to
they could get They've watched the games and probably felt
they could get pressure conventionally. But I thought there was
some times on some third downs that I expected them
to heat them up and they really didn't. But I mean,
I give I give Brissett credit on the field goal drive.
To me was even more impressive. It was like these

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third downs that I think he had like three of them, yep,
that they had to converge, like third and twelve Hunter Henry,
you know, the one to Hunter Henry and then the
one to the Thornton that Matt talked about earlier in
the show. I thought that Brissette did a really nice
job this game, and I and I'm not looking to
pick a fight. I don't think he had a lot
of errant throws. I think the incomplete passes, for the most.

Speaker 1 (01:42:36):
Part were dropped.

Speaker 4 (01:42:38):
Now he overshot to Mario Douglas on the last drive
on and out. I don't think that was a really
bad throat.

Speaker 6 (01:42:44):
He had three, he had three off throw.

Speaker 4 (01:42:46):
And he had one that he put way over. I
think Hooper, either Hooper or Henry's head early in the
ear I.

Speaker 1 (01:42:52):
Thought the decision to go to Hooper in the end
zone who was covered, was really that one he got
lucky on it.

Speaker 4 (01:42:58):
Thought that was almost a deflection, like all Sauce was
in the area.

Speaker 1 (01:43:05):
But he's not the guy if I'm going to throw
a fade or something like that. He's not the guy
that I'm looking to throw it too.

Speaker 6 (01:43:10):
When Thornton finally got that pass in some space, you
were like, run right, Forrest.

Speaker 1 (01:43:14):
I know, don't die.

Speaker 15 (01:43:16):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (01:43:16):
A little little tibbet maybe the only interesting to me.
But as of this moment, there's seven teams in the
AFC with two wins or less. Seven almost half the
teams in the AFC.

Speaker 4 (01:43:26):
This is the on that I was making earlier in
the week, like this whole murderers Row schedule. It was
the hardest schedule in the league. Heading in, it hasn't come.
It hasn't worked out that way. They've played a lot
of wretchedly bad teams so far, and I like, even
though the good team quote unquote that they played is
below five hundred San Francisco. So the Jets have two wins,

(01:43:49):
the Bengals. The Bengals lost again today. They're three and five.
Miami has two wins.

Speaker 1 (01:43:54):
The Titans have just won one one. Yeah, is it possible?
The league is down? And I'm being dead serious about it.

Speaker 4 (01:44:00):
I just think that the teams that they're playing are down.
I you know, I think Kansas City looks good Baltimore
lost the games.

Speaker 1 (01:44:06):
They look good.

Speaker 4 (01:44:07):
You know, they haven't played Buffalo yet. That's the only
team in the division. It looks like it has a pulse.
They haven't played them yet. They played the other two.

Speaker 12 (01:44:14):
So you're saying there's a path for the Patriots.

Speaker 37 (01:44:17):
No, it was suggested. I wasn't in second place right now?
What are the time? What's the tie breakers? What's the
what's the they're in third place by tie breakers?

Speaker 7 (01:44:30):
They got the tie breaker, would well, Jacksonville's got it
over them.

Speaker 4 (01:44:33):
But now I'm talking about the division.

Speaker 1 (01:44:35):
Yeah, Jacksonville pushed green Bay today. I thought green Bay
needed like a lake Field goal to get out of there.

Speaker 4 (01:44:41):
Got hurt, right, Okay, so I think they had a
big lead and he got hurt and then they had
a hold on.

Speaker 7 (01:44:46):
They still got Miami at second. I don't know if
that's because they're two and five as opposed to two.

Speaker 4 (01:44:49):
And six, but oh, that's a better record. That's that's true.

Speaker 12 (01:44:53):
So they've had their bi weekend.

Speaker 4 (01:44:54):
But I don't know who has the time. I mean,
I know obviously the Patriots beat Miami had I mean
I lost to Miami, had to head, but I don't
know three if it was a three way tie, I
don't know who would have been.

Speaker 1 (01:45:04):
So you guys, are you guys just weaking to get
blowing the first overall pick calls Tuesday, Wednesday and through.

Speaker 12 (01:45:13):
I don't want the first overall pick.

Speaker 6 (01:45:15):
I just think it's it's I don't think yeah, for us,
it doesn't really matter year in the top five.

Speaker 7 (01:45:20):
I think unless you had a you know, a real
generational quarterback that you think a team like I just
worry about getting stuck with the first overall pick and
you know, not being able to do all the things
that I think they need to do.

Speaker 12 (01:45:29):
So I'd like to avoid first Like.

Speaker 6 (01:45:31):
If they're like you said, if there was that one quarterback,
then having the first pick now is value.

Speaker 7 (01:45:37):
And then then you're playing people off, you know, but
now it's I mean a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:45:40):
Of just would you be graded that they wouldn't be
able to move it?

Speaker 12 (01:45:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:45:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I think I think there's value
in having it. I mean, not irrelevant to this discussion.
I'm just saying, if you're asking me I can have.

Speaker 1 (01:45:53):
It or not, I'll take it.

Speaker 4 (01:45:55):
Yeah, But though they have a quarterback, I'd still rather
be picking as high as I Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:45:59):
I mean I get that.

Speaker 7 (01:46:00):
I just feel like if you were like it four,
you're gonna have some things fall ahead, so then maybe
you can even trade that if you want, or you know,
they're I mean I've seen some of the mocks where
they have like Travis Hunter, but Travis Hunter is a
cornerback being trapped at first overall, which I mean that
you know, we can get into debate about what position
that guy plays, but it just seems like there's not
an easy slam dunk don't fit the Patriots, like unless

(01:46:20):
you you know, believe Travis Hunter is going to be
a number one weapon and that's what you want to do.

Speaker 12 (01:46:24):
I think that there's an argument to be made there.
But otherwise, you.

Speaker 7 (01:46:27):
Know, really like the late tens, where are going to
be where the tackle and some people don't even consider
them tackles anymore, and some of those edge players are
gonna be.

Speaker 1 (01:46:35):
I'd be I would not feel good about drafting a
guy number one overall who's what one hundred and seventy pounds, Yeah,
I mean.

Speaker 12 (01:46:41):
That's and I mean he's dining. I mean, he's a player.

Speaker 7 (01:46:44):
But you know, if you're gonna take a receiver at
that point, you want it to be like Marvin Harrison Junior, right,
like he's got that body type. Yep, he can kind
of do everything, at least on paper before you take them.

Speaker 36 (01:46:53):
All.

Speaker 1 (01:46:53):
Right, let's recap a good day of football here for
the New England Patriots. They beat the New York Jets
twenty five twenty two. I don't know, did anybody pick them?
Did any pick him? This week?

Speaker 6 (01:47:01):
I picked them to beat the spread.

Speaker 1 (01:47:02):
Same here, but you didn't pick them to win.

Speaker 12 (01:47:04):
Nope.

Speaker 1 (01:47:04):
So you know, that's really good, and I think it's
going to demonstrate a little confidence for them. Maybe they
got something near Maybe if they do listen to their coaching.
Maybe if they do take it and practice well and
things like that, good things will happen. They're certainly going
into a good environment. I think next week that crowd
is going to be against the home team. They gave
up a fifty burger today, so there's an opportunity. Whether

(01:47:27):
Brissett's playing or May's playing, They've got a new opportunity
in Nashville next year.

Speaker 6 (01:47:31):
It's like when I play tennis, you go for every
ball because you never know. Just keep it in play.
You never know what the other guy might do.

Speaker 1 (01:47:38):
Interesting analogy. I don't think I would have gone that way.

Speaker 4 (01:47:40):
Yeah, I mean they're going to be favored next week,
they should be, well, I don't know if they should
there going.

Speaker 1 (01:47:46):
Do you really think they're going to be favored?

Speaker 6 (01:47:48):
I think so. Well, if may plays, yes, I don't
know if for set plays it might be like it.

Speaker 4 (01:47:55):
Might be it might be a pick up, it might
be off the board because right, because of the injury.

Speaker 1 (01:47:59):
But how long will the main decision take? Like, if
he's in the proto, if he's not practicing Wednesday, I
would say he's probably out. If he's not practicing Wednesday,
I would say probably.

Speaker 4 (01:48:08):
I think you can get out of the protocol at
any time. Yeah, yeah, I think concussions are different, Like
it's a matter of clearing protocol.

Speaker 6 (01:48:17):
Yeah, how long does the protocol take? Well, you have to, don't.
You have to be like forty eight hours.

Speaker 4 (01:48:23):
After symptom free, right, and then they ramp it up.

Speaker 6 (01:48:26):
Right, you know it's something like that.

Speaker 11 (01:48:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:48:27):
Yeah, it's a it's a process.

Speaker 6 (01:48:29):
It's a protocol.

Speaker 7 (01:48:30):
Yeah, think you the question that's a protocol if you will, Yeah,
if he's able to get out of the protocol to you,
like what if he doesn't get out till Friday. Are
you at a point with his career that you want
to put him in there with only a little bit
of practice, or do you say, look, this is about
the long term future the franchise.

Speaker 12 (01:48:44):
Let's protect him and put no perset in It's great.

Speaker 1 (01:48:47):
I smell the main storyline on Patriots Unfiltered this week, Michael,
and there it is all right. Well, a Patriot's win today,
twenty five, twenty two. Good day here in Foxborough for
everybody involved. Matt Lapean, Matt Morel, Chris Judge, Paul Piilo,
Fred Kirsch, Mike Dos. I'm Matt Smith. Good win for
the Patriots today. Next week they're on the road when

(01:49:07):
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everybody proud of them.

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