Patriots Postgame Show 10/5: Full Analysis of Patriots Week 5 Win Over Bills

Tune-in as we recap the Patriots thrilling primetime divisional win over the Buffalo Bills. We break down Drake Maye and Stefon Diggs' performances, big plays on defense and the rookie kicker Andy Borregales' game-winning kick. We wager the night's win as potentially being the Patriots biggest win since the Super Bowl victory over the Rams. Plus, Patriots tight end Hunter Henry calls in to discuss the win, and what it means for the team as they continue to build their identity.

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Speaker 5 (00:38):
Welcome into the Patriots Postgame Show presented by DraftKings. An
exciting one to say the least, and came down to
the final quarter, but of course the Patriots getting the
win twenty three to twenty the final score in Buffalo
Pop Rollo's here. Deuce is finishing his writing, but he'll
be back with us and just the second But Paul,
I want to quickly just go straight to you. What's
it out to you about the offensive response from the

(01:00):
team today.

Speaker 6 (01:01):
So it's just one of those games where you know,
they got an effort on both sides of the ball
for sixty minutes and they played a cleaner game. They
made me some mistakes too, but they played the cleaner game.
They plus two in the turnover margin, and in the
end of the day, you had two guys that just
stood out among the rest, and they put you on
your back in one Drake May and Stefan Diggs took

(01:23):
you home. And this is as satisfying a win as
the team has had in I would say five years.

Speaker 5 (01:29):
Yeah, and off the top, we talked about not having
a slow start. Right off the top, Stephon Diggs connects well,
Drake connects with Stephan Diggs, just kind of getting the
momentum going. Not as consistent as we expected.

Speaker 6 (01:39):
But like you said, ste I mean, it was a
rough first half offensively, they didn't do a lot well offensively.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
I thought in a lot of ways.

Speaker 6 (01:47):
It was May's worst half of the season in the
first half, in his best half of his career in
the second half. So obviously, if he wanted to choose
between those two, that's the way you would you would
take it. I'd love to sit here and gloat and
tell you I called this win, but basically everything about
the win wasn't the way I thought it was going

(02:08):
to happen. So, like I said, biggest win for the Patriots,
and I don't even know how long I can't really
remember the last win that I had. This kind of
an implication that that plane's going to float home from Buffalo.

Speaker 5 (02:22):
Yeah, a lot of upside in this one. Defensively, also
similar to a roller coaster. But what was your biggest
takeaway the takeaways?

Speaker 4 (02:29):
Yeah, you know, it's a difference in the game.

Speaker 6 (02:31):
You know, the Bills turned it over twice down in
scoring position once deep in their own end. That led
to three points. A team that doesn't turn the ball
over turned it over three times tonight. And you know,
I just think that the Patriots had a good plan Defensively.
I don't think they gave a lot of easy throws.
They didn't get any pressure even when they tried to.

(02:52):
They didn't seem to get a lot of pressure on
Josh Allen. But combination of a couple of things. Situationally,
I thought that they were really good in this game.
None better than the very end of the game when
they had you know, the Bills got the ball and
they get another first down or two, and they're going
to be able to get down and scoring position. And
end the game with that possession, and Gonzales comes up

(03:14):
with a couple of big, big plays in coverage. So
again everybody contributed right down to you know, you get
a game winning fifty two yard field goal from your
your rookie kicker. But you know, again, this is all
to me, This is all about Stefan Diggs Tonight. I
think he was just you know, he was obviously extra
motivated going into Buffalo and ten for one, six he

(03:37):
was dominant.

Speaker 5 (03:38):
Yeah, we did say we wanted to see a revenge
game out of him, and that's exactly what.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
You got it. Yeah, you got it.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
What do you think Drake, Like the last few games,
we've seen Drake trying to get targets to Stefan, but
today was specifically different. What do you think change for
them all?

Speaker 6 (03:51):
Well, today I think he was the only guy that
really made himself available. I mean, that was double the
amount of targets that he's got and he's been getting
five or six every game and now today it's twelve
in terms of targets.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
So just I'm almost speechless.

Speaker 6 (04:06):
Mean, like, I thought that they had every opportunity to
win this game, and I wasn't trying to like blow
smoke and just sort of set them up. I thought
they would have a chance to win. I didn't really
like the way Buffalo's played September. They didn't really you know,
they kind of looked like a team that's on cruise control.
And that's exactly what you saw tonight with eight penalties
and two turnovers in the first half. It's a six

(04:27):
three game, so that happens, anybody can win it. And
the Patriots came out and they were the better team
in the second half. Yeah, and that's you know, that
was the difference in the game. Just a terrific game
all around.

Speaker 5 (04:37):
And when we talked to Jay earlier in the game
from Buffalo News, I mean before the game started, excuse me,
he mentioned how this was just another game from for Buffalo.
Do you think that may have contributed to them having?

Speaker 6 (04:48):
Absolutely And that's one of the reasons why I thought
the Patriots would win it. I just didn't like the
way Buffalo looked in some of these games. You know, ironically,
I thought they they played better defensively to Buffalo did
I thought then they have really most of the season.
You know, they were pretty pretty stout against the run.
They'd been struggling to stop the run. Really, the Patriots

(05:09):
couldn't get a lot going. This was all on Digs.
Diggs was basically the entirety of the offense. You know,
they had three hundred and thirty eight yards of offense.
Digs had one hundred and forty six of it. So
hats off to him, Hats off to Drake May for
you know, turning it around. I thought he looked a
little unsettled in the pocket in the first half and

(05:30):
and that changed. He didn't get a lot of help
from the guys up front. There was constant pressure. Some
of the throws he made on a dead run to
his right rolling toward the sideline were just unbelievable throws.
At least two or three of them are unbelievable catches
by by Diggs to secure the catch and keep in bounds.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
Yeah, this was I This was about two guys.

Speaker 6 (05:53):
I mean, I think, like I said, the complimentary aspect
was there, but when when every play needed to be
it was Digs making it. And again, I can't say
enough about the difference between may first half and second half,
best best half of his career.

Speaker 5 (06:07):
Yeah, and while we're on a subject of offense. Josh
McDaniels is play calling, how much would you say contributed
especially early, Like we mentioned that first half a little
slow and eventually picked up.

Speaker 7 (06:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (06:17):
I didn't love a lot of what they did play
calling wise tonight. I thought May and Diggs just went over. Yeah,
they just went out and made plays that were better
than the guys that were playing against them. I didn't
think any of any of those rollouts were by design
or anything like that.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
There was nothing.

Speaker 6 (06:32):
They never really had an answer for the constant pressure
Buffalo was applying. Really for four quarters of the game.
This was about digs in May just making more plays,
you know, And you know, I just see the big
smile right there, you know, as we're watching the end
of the the NBC broadcast, the big smile with May
and Rabel, you know, first first game winning drive for
the kid. And I did see this coming, Mike, That's

(06:54):
what That's what I said.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
I thought that they.

Speaker 6 (06:56):
Would score late. I thought they would have a chance
to win it. Now, everything else about the game, I
have a hard time taking a victory lap because it
really didn't unfold in any way, shape or form the
way I thought it would. I thought it would be
an old fashioned shootout, and it wasn't. The defenses came
to play well at the second half.

Speaker 8 (07:11):
It might have been if the whole at the second half,
in the whole game, maybe it would have been you
would have been dead on. I was. I was off
to with defense, trying to get stops, but I look,
Belfalo helped him out in the first half. But I mean,
getting in here after finishing my piece, I just have
to say, you know, what a game from Drake. I mean,
you know, just to shake off that first half because
we were all even my Dad's texted me saying, you know,

(07:32):
it looks shaky tonight. I mean, it seemed momentarily like
the moment was a little big for him. But he
turned it around. In my gosh, that you know, second half,
three scoring drives, I mean, the game winning drive. That's
that's what I've been waiting for. That's the kind of
thing that you know, it's it's more than just one
game winning drive. It's like the first one and you know,

(07:53):
and I don't know that exactly, maybe there's been another
one that he's had along the way, but that to
me is what it's all about. Two minutes left, you
get the ball back. The game is tied. You know,
do you go three and out give it back to
the Bills, watch them go down and score, or do
you hit a first play That was just absolutely ridiculous
that you're seeing right here on the on the TV
broadcast of fighting off a guy. I mean, those are

(08:15):
drive starters. And like Paul was saying, Stefan Diggs was outstanding.
I mean just the you could tell before the game
he was interviewed on the field. You could see the
intensity in his eyes. That's the kind of guy he is.
I could even sense it this week when we interviewed
him in the locker room on Wednesday. So Paul's right,
I mean, put May and Diggs atop the you know,

(08:36):
congratulations started up right, yeah and injured, thank you for
waiting for me.

Speaker 5 (08:41):
We absolutely did it. But before we do that, though,
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so much planning and breaking down to do of this game. So,
like you said, said it's time for us to get
into the good, the bad, and the injured.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Now it's time for the good, pretty good, the bad,
what hap and the injured?

Speaker 9 (09:13):
Ah ah, you are right, guy, all right were top
of it, and there was there was a lot of
There were a lot of contributions, you know, in complimentary football.

Speaker 6 (09:34):
They made some very timely plays on defense too, So
I'm not overlooking that. But you won the game because
just two guys just strapped the team on their back.
And and I would put Digs at the top, but
but but May was just unbelievably tough in the second half,
just a really gutty performance. He was just under constant

(09:55):
attack immediately. Those weren't like, oh, I'm just gonna usually
roll to the right and see if I can wait
buy some time to have a guy uncovered. He's running
for his life on a lot of those plays. And
some of these throws were just silly going up to
his right. And then the catches that Diggs is making
with his footwork and his hands, the hands catches in traffic.

(10:19):
You know, just both guys were just so good in
this game.

Speaker 5 (10:21):
Yeah, are a few plays I was watching between my
eyes because I didn't think he was going to complete them,
but like the dig would come out from the sideline
and catch them. So the chemistry that they had today
was unreal.

Speaker 8 (10:31):
Oh, I mean, you're you're starting to see it, And
I mean, how long have we sat here and talked
about getting mac Jones the number one or you know,
get like you just you need a guy to be
able to do stuff like this to win games.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
People understand now what we're talking about here.

Speaker 6 (10:46):
It is when we say it, the difference when you
have one guy that can just get open and make
catches to ten. I'm sorry, you don't win that game
if Kendrick is the number one receiver tonight instead of
Steffan Digs, which he's been periodically over the last couple years, Like,
you're not gonna win that game.

Speaker 8 (11:04):
Yeah, I don't know if the guys can can tee
up the dig the catch that Digs had, you know,
right down near the end zone. But that to me
was just a few times I've seen it. Uh, just
absolutely unbelievable how he's able to hold onto the ball.
Not quite that's yeah, that's the hunter Henry one. But
I'm sure they'll find in a second. But it was
just one of many that just right place, right time.

(11:25):
Not a lot of easy catches too, I mean the
one he was sliding, Uh, the one down on the
sideline where you know the guy is like hitting his
hands a millisecond after he catches the ball, he's still
able to hold on to the ball. Uh. So this
is why you get Stefan Diggs. This was the Steffan
Diggs you were hoping you could get h first pass
out of the shoot. We talked about it in the
pregame show. He said, I bet you they're going to

(11:46):
try to get him any and it clearly paid off.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
And it's even a little bit more impressive to me
when you.

Speaker 8 (11:52):
Look at just how lackluster things were in the first half,
because really, without Buffalo's penalties, it might have been a
very much different game. But May Diggs, they were able
to hold their fork, you know, so to speak, and
stay focused and you know, finished the game out like this.
I mean, and then that last pass that that May
made to Diggs, just with a guy hanging all over.

Speaker 6 (12:14):
And in the yards have to catch tonight too. For
Digs was impressive. He was just very determined to make plays.
It's all night long. But again, May, I mean twenty two,
thirty two seventy three, you know, no touchdowns, no picks.
You know, it's a good it's a good stat line,
but I don't think it really tells the story because

(12:34):
of the amount of pressure he was under. The pass
protection was just not there tonight, and they smelled it.
Buffalo smelled it, and that's why they kept sending extra
guys because they couldn't handle them some of the passes
that he made in the heat of pressure. This second
half was as impressive as I've seen Drake May in

(12:55):
his career. And you know, I just think the way
that you listen to the way that you hear a
national guy like Collins with gushing over them all night,
just the tip of the iceberg, I think these are
the kinds of performances you should now expect going forward.

Speaker 5 (13:08):
Yeah, it was impressive to see him play against this
Buffalo defense, like you said, against that blitz and still
be comfortable enough to say, I'm going to make these
plays and make these you know, move the ball as
much as I can.

Speaker 8 (13:18):
Yeah, honest, that's the thing that you didn't really know
about him, and especially coming off the first half where
it felt little inconsistent, and you know, does he have
it tonight? Are we regressing a little bit tonight? Is
he you know, waiting for that kind of mayspray pick
that's going to change the complexion of the game, and
all of a sudden buffalo is rolling.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
But he was undeterred.

Speaker 8 (13:35):
And you know, again, I just I can't say enough
about that final drive. And I mean I said it.
I think in the pregame show, you know it's.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Is Drake clutch? Can he find his clutch?

Speaker 8 (13:43):
And I think you know, you're seeing him getting comfortable
in this offense, and you're hopeful now that Dre that
Josh McDaniels is gonna be here for a little bit,
and that now he feels like he's seeing another protege
that you know, he I mean, May's making all the
right reads here. I mean this story to counter Henry outstanding.
I mean, you know a little bit of props to Hunter,
Henry Kisehan Booty maybe not necessarily on the good list,

(14:05):
but at the same time coming up with some clutch
catches when they needed to keep things running. None bigger
than I mean, And to be honest, I mean that
that catch for Booty on the sidelines. That almost gets
him on the good list for me, just for the
awareness to get down keep the clock running. So those guys,
they didn't do a lot. Booty three for forty three,
Hunter Henry two for forty six. They were your second

(14:27):
and third leading receivers. But you know, Hunter Henry had
a long at twenty four, Booty had a long and nineteen.
So they were finding ways to chip in, even Pop
Douglas even though they didn't have the volume. And that's
something going forward. I think that'll still continue to have
to happen. We need to see more of these guys
step up because guess what's gonna happen after this week,
Everybody's gonna be watching Stefan things and saying we got
to take Digs out of the picture.

Speaker 6 (14:47):
But I just wonder if you know, we're seeing, you know,
just him being a little bit more healthy, you know,
being a little bit further removed from the surgery. And
you know, Stefan Diggs for a long time was one
of the best five receivers in football. Maybe he's not
that far away from that, you know, coming back the
last two weeks have been eye opening. In today, Like

(15:09):
I said, just a man possessed.

Speaker 8 (15:11):
Yeah, I mean, and what does this game do for
Stefan Diggs, you know, just to come out of this
beating his old team in Buffalo, you know, had got
injured in Houston, some questions about who is this guy is?
He's still as good as he used to be, and
you know you're seeing now the last two weeks, the
guy had one hundred and two hundred yard games. So
he's starting to look like we thought he would. He
might possibly look. I mean, I didn't think for sure

(15:33):
you'd get this version of Steffan Diggs. So hopefully he
can keep it up, he can stay healthy, and it's
obviously he's vital, vital, vital to Drake May.

Speaker 5 (15:40):
Yeah, and to your point about the leadership in the
outspokenness of Diggs on the field pregame, the Patriots account
I believe posted his pregame huddle and he's like anyone
that's not in blue, attack at them. And obviously, again
it's a personal game for him. But the NBC broadcast
was talking about Drake May and having that veteran leadership
with him. Of course, he's still learning his way around
the offense. But for Diggs to set up plays to

(16:02):
help him look good was very essential in this one.

Speaker 8 (16:05):
Jure mean, I just imagine, as you know, as a quarterback, Paul,
you play a little quarterback.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
You look out there and you're like, I got a guy.

Speaker 8 (16:09):
Now I got a guy I can trust him.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
Power eye right. But it's it's should only help grow
this relationship.

Speaker 5 (16:18):
Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
Yeah, So.

Speaker 6 (16:20):
Just moving on, you know, to some other guys, and
I do think that those are the guys that you know.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
Obviously this game was about digs in May, but.

Speaker 6 (16:29):
I do think I don't think there was a great
performance defensively, despite the fact that Buffalo ends up with
only twenty points. However, I do think that this defense
was great tonight situationally at times. On the biggest sequence
to me the last two defensive plays of the night
by Gonzales. You know, he covered Keyon Coleman for a

(16:49):
long time on a scramble play and may have gotten
away with one on the last play, but a great
diving knockdown coming over the top of Shakir, that pass
to Shakira gets completed, Buffalo is gonna have. That's gonna
end up being the last possession of the night. And
it's whether or not Buffalo scores a touchdown to win it,

(17:11):
or just kicks the field goal to tie it and
go to overtime.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
But this, this play here was impressive because of how
long he had to cover exactly.

Speaker 6 (17:19):
You know for Gonzalez, you know, and I know that
Coleman's not the most elusive guy. It's a good matchup
for Gonzales. He should win this one more often than not.
But this is a long time. I think they said
about eight seconds he covered there. So this is a
good job, just the second one here to scare. Now,
look at the clock. You know you're down around two
twenty five here. You know you're gonna be under two twenty.

(17:39):
If this ball is complete, he's open. If this ball
is complete, if Gonzalez doesn't dive over the top and
knock this away, this is a first down. You're inside
the twenty. Buffalo's probably going to be able to end
the game with the ball. And if they score a
touchdown they want it's a walkoff touchdown win, and if not,
it's it's probably the last possession. They kick a field
goal and you go to overtime. Knocking it away, it

(18:01):
gives the Patriots two minutes and twelve seconds. I want
to say for Drake May to bring the team down
the field for the game winning field go. So Gonzales
was on my good list tonight. Those It's two two
huge plays.

Speaker 5 (18:10):
In defensively all add Marcus Jones may not have been
the strongest game, but obviously that pick late in the
third and of course early on the stop versus Coleman.
Just like little plays throughout the game that stood out
to me.

Speaker 6 (18:20):
Yeah, I had Marcus Jones. I had Marcus Jones on
my good list. Also for the two plays you mentioned.
Don't get lost in the first one in the first half,
no big third downstop and the coverage down the sideline.

Speaker 8 (18:31):
I was going to say a little bit in the
city where you're saying, Paul, but team that was thirty
first in the red zone coming in tonight, Patriots defense
a couple of red zone stops. I mean the interception,
the last one not quite a red zone stop. But
I thought you saw a little bit there of the
defense doing something that they hadn't done all year, Which
your point, Paul, I'm not a great overall night, and
yet you kind of do well in an area that's
been a struggle fee So I like.

Speaker 6 (18:52):
It and I would say I'm way more glass full
on the defense tonight because of the opponent.

Speaker 10 (19:01):
They made.

Speaker 6 (19:01):
They made the opponent work for for everything they got tonight.
And you know, they caught him on a night where
they weren't you know, they weren't braz Or sharp.

Speaker 5 (19:10):
That being said, we have Hunter Henry welcome in. What's congratulations?
So that was a decent win.

Speaker 10 (19:19):
Pretty good about him, Mike Rabel.

Speaker 6 (19:24):
Hunter seemed to really put a lot into this. So
he didn't shy away from the moment. You guys were
going on national TV and he said, you guys had
an opportunity to put your best foot forward and show
your identity. Did you guys get a little extra juice
from that? Just how much he embraced the challenge of
going to Buffalo.

Speaker 10 (19:40):
You always have braced the challenge.

Speaker 11 (19:41):
Man, it's a big division ro win, uh broad game,
you know, get a big win here, a special I mean,
this is one of the best teams in the in
the NFL. Obviously they've been showing that this year, that
throughout the past few years, so we knew it was
a big, big challenge. And then you always got to
get up man Brown to everybody's watching and I feel
like everybody was ready to go and really responded to

(20:03):
the environment.

Speaker 8 (20:04):
Hunter, Just what can you say about Stefan Diggs tonight.

Speaker 10 (20:08):
Special?

Speaker 12 (20:09):
Uh?

Speaker 11 (20:10):
You could just tell he was ready to go from
the jump, you know, he was flying around making plays.

Speaker 10 (20:16):
I mean, that's that's a guy we've seen for you've
seen for a long.

Speaker 11 (20:19):
Time, and he really was ready to go tonight. Uh,
everybody was ready to feed off of it.

Speaker 10 (20:24):
It was cool.

Speaker 5 (20:25):
Hunter, As a veteran tight end, what would you say
sit out to you about Drake May's performance in a
game like this Prime time but also just his composure
all throughout this game.

Speaker 11 (20:35):
Drake's just continuing to grow. Man, it's been It's really
really cool. I mean that was that was a big
time environment and he handled it with boys composure, makes
some big, big time plays outside of the pocket.

Speaker 10 (20:47):
In the pocket, he's he's fun to play with.

Speaker 13 (20:49):
Man.

Speaker 10 (20:50):
You know, you got a chance with Tim back there.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
What was the difference, Hunter in the second half?

Speaker 6 (20:56):
And it looked like it was a little bit of
stops and starts in the first half. You guys have
a hard time getting some consistency all of a sudden,
the second half, you guys just brought it to a
different level offensively.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
What changed?

Speaker 14 (21:08):
Uh?

Speaker 10 (21:08):
You know, I feel like we were we knew we
were close, We knew we were really.

Speaker 11 (21:12):
Really close on a few you know, kind of beat
ourselves obviously turning the ball over after the turnoup was big,
but didn't play like we wanted to and we were
still winning six to three, and we knew we had
to come out ready to go because they were gonna
be ready to go obviously if they can't win down
and scored and we responded. I feel like the guys
just continue to respond, show resilience.

Speaker 10 (21:31):
And how about Andy Man or kick to finish it?

Speaker 13 (21:34):
Man?

Speaker 10 (21:34):
That was really really cool.

Speaker 8 (21:36):
Hunter. Buffalo has won the division the last five years.
I know we're only in Week five, but what can
this young team, young Patriots team, how can you build
off of this victory up there in Buffalo?

Speaker 10 (21:46):
Yeah, I mean it's a big win.

Speaker 13 (21:47):
Man.

Speaker 10 (21:48):
Division games were huge, especially on the.

Speaker 11 (21:51):
Road, So you know, we gotta you know, celebrate this
one for twenty four and move on and be ready.

Speaker 10 (21:57):
To go because this league waits for nobody. We're gonna
have to you're ready to.

Speaker 5 (22:00):
Again next week, Well, go and continue the celebration. And
thank you for your time.

Speaker 6 (22:04):
Thanks congratulations. I mean that's like I said, Mike before
you came back. I think that plane is probably gonna
float home from I mean, you like to like track
these these kinds of things, like I don't really remember
the last win that is on par with this.

Speaker 8 (22:22):
Now me neither neither or not, not since not since
my time. Oh, Fred kersh.

Speaker 5 (22:28):
Falling in, I love it. Welcome in, Fred thought I
thought it was a FaceTime. I got so excited. Sorry,
let me answer, are we doing doing?

Speaker 4 (22:40):
Fred? Some of us know ball right, ball knowers.

Speaker 7 (22:47):
That that was something raight.

Speaker 8 (22:50):
What was the atmosphere up there as as the kick
went through from the Buffalo fans? What would you see
there in the stadium as a as Borgalis clinched it.

Speaker 7 (23:00):
They were they were on their way out with their
you know, little white T shirts and everything they had
just they had just sung their little song, you know,
during the break. So but uh, yeah, it was they'll
never wear those rivalry uniforms again.

Speaker 5 (23:16):
I like, did you call them little white T shirts?

Speaker 4 (23:18):
Didn't take us long to get obnoxious, did it?

Speaker 15 (23:22):
Come on?

Speaker 4 (23:23):
Man?

Speaker 7 (23:24):
What am I supposed to be?

Speaker 14 (23:25):
Like?

Speaker 6 (23:25):
Well, you know, I mean, Mike say it was you
know that that seemed like it was pretty jacked up.
I mean, this is you know, this is the coming
out party that we talked about all week. This is
about the Patriots, not about the Bills, not about their towels.

Speaker 7 (23:40):
No, absolutely. I mean, you know, the Bills played an
awful first half, but the Patriots also, they was a
floppy first half, but second half, you know, both offenses
started to get a little bit of a rhythm and
I think the Patriots defense, uh did a decent job there.
And at the end of the game, this is what
we wanted. We wanted the ball in Drake's hand with

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a chance to win two minutes yep. And he did it.
And he did it.

Speaker 6 (24:07):
Absolutely, this is what we've been waiting for. And this
is I think just the tip of the iceberg. I
thought the second half tonight was as good as he's
played in his career.

Speaker 7 (24:15):
Yeah, I mean, the play, the digs as he was
going down getting it off, you know, just you know,
before his knee touch, keeping his eyes downfield. That was
key because in the first half, you know, the broadcasters
were noticing that when he was under pressure, he wasn't
keeping his eyes downfield. At times, and you know whether
that's true or not, that's what they were saying. But

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certainly on that last play to Digs, not the last play,
but on the plate to Digs, he kept his eyes
downfield under duress and it was a huge pickup. That
was you know, that was a drive staver.

Speaker 5 (24:51):
Rad.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
What do you think the moot's gonna be like on
the plane back?

Speaker 7 (24:54):
Oh man, oh man, it's it's gonna be wild.

Speaker 5 (24:59):
Well, fred you said last week that that game, the
win last week, was going to build momentum for right now.
But now that we're two wins in a row, what
are you hoping for the next.

Speaker 7 (25:08):
Few Well, like, well, like Rabel said, you got to
start over this. This doesn't matter unless you build on it.
You know, if you come in and you lose to
the Falcons, then you lose to the Saints, then what
does this matter? You know, you got to build on this.
You got to build on this.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
Someone might have said that during the week. All right, Freddie,
enjoy it. You and I we know this.

Speaker 6 (25:32):
A couple of people had the Patriots in this one,
so I know I had you with me.

Speaker 5 (25:38):
All right, facetimes next time by.

Speaker 8 (25:44):
That guy, that guy you must be watching.

Speaker 6 (25:48):
Also, I told him, I said, if we win this game,
you should you should call, you should call into the show.

Speaker 8 (25:56):
Dont that's all we got to send him?

Speaker 5 (25:58):
Win?

Speaker 8 (25:58):
All right?

Speaker 4 (25:59):
What else the I I got a subtle bit, I
got more. I think it might be the same one.
I'm thinking of a go aheader the punter. Oh it
wasn't it. I did have him listed on my list.

Speaker 8 (26:11):
Yeah, I had, you know, and really it's about the
first half to me. But three punts inside the fifteen
yard line of fourteen or fourteen and a ten I
just thought that was a you know, a big part
of maintaining field position. I thought you needed every yard
you possibly could get. And I just thought Bryce Behinger
in the first half was good. You know, he tends
to be a little sporadic, you know, sometimes you don't

(26:31):
know what.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
You're gonna get. Uh, he did put one in the
end zone, but I mean that one was mine.

Speaker 6 (26:35):
Yeah it's a bad that's a bad touch back there.
But you're right, I had him. I had the same
thing listed down. I said, plus fifties fourteen two times.

Speaker 8 (26:43):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 6 (26:44):
They were they were you know, well well executed. So yeah,
I had the same thing listed I had. I thought
that you were going to go with a subtle one
Jolani Tovai. Yeah, I thought, great, we're coming off I
r was out there setting the edge a little bit active,
showed up, I made some plays, so I thought, you know, again,

(27:04):
not spectacular. It kind of reminded me of a few
weeks ago when we were talking about Mapu and it
was like, yeah, I don't know how and I don't
know how well we played out how many plays he played.
This might be one we look at. Maybe he played
twenty plays. I don't know, but no, I agree.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
I thought he was active, and that's a long time.

Speaker 8 (27:20):
He got hurt.

Speaker 6 (27:22):
He originally got hurt in the spring, then was able
to come back, made it through what one.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
Day Mike of training camp.

Speaker 6 (27:29):
Yeah, and then he has been basically off since then.
So came right in to be ready to go tonight
against that offense.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
I thought he was good.

Speaker 10 (27:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (27:37):
I think hard to extrapolate exactly what it's going to
be with him, but just to have someone with some
size and some athleticism that can move out onto the
edge like that, he's, you know, more athletic than than
Anthony Jennings. Is they can do more with him. I
think he's a really good piece to add back into
this defense and kind of an unexpected one just to
hold over from the last couple of years. He didn't
know how these guys exactly were going to fit. And

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I thought Paul was totally right. You know, he's going
to be really useful. It may not be you know
that off the ball linebackers sitting lining up every down
next to Spaaine, but he is a guy that can
do a number of things and reinforce some areas, and
I thought he was a big part of you know,
containing cook and doing really good jobs. So yeah, I
had to buy as well.

Speaker 5 (28:16):
But just to think about Dylan Hawkins half a sack swooping.

Speaker 8 (28:20):
Down for me, like it's like I got him on,
you know, it's like he's Donny on the spot. And
I think that.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
Blitz, that blitz led to Milton Williams sack.

Speaker 6 (28:32):
And I know he got a piece of the sack too,
but that was because he did a good job blitzing. Yeah,
I mean half down because the tight ends eight the Titans,
and then then the touchdown of Samuel was his guy.
I had Robert Spolaine though, I thought defensively, I thought
they did a good job of swarming to the football.
I thought Ellis was pretty active early in this game.

(28:52):
He's really been struggled struggling lately. I thought he did
a good job on uh on Allen and then you know, Splaine,
that's a big you know, it's big three points because
you you know, allows you to take the lead. Disappointing
that they weren't able to turn it into seven, but
it's a big play by Spallaine there too.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
Like I said, I didn't.

Speaker 6 (29:10):
Think defensively, I really didn't think that they were Like
if you had told them before the game, well the
defense is going to hold in the twenty points. Well
they played great today. Like to hold that offense to twenty,
that's really doing something. I don't think it was as
good as that, but.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
It was pretty good.

Speaker 6 (29:28):
Yeah, you're on the road against one of the best
offenses in football, probably the second best offense behind Detroit,
and that's you know, that's.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
What you come out with.

Speaker 6 (29:36):
Now you look at it below at twenty five first
downs and you know, Josh Allen didn't throw that many
incomplete passes in this game.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
They did a pretty good job on James Cook.

Speaker 6 (29:46):
You didn't allow him to take the game over long
to nine. But you know, I just thought that they
competed on every possession. They didn't give him a couple
of undisciplined penalties, but they didn't they didn't give him any.

Speaker 8 (30:00):
Like easy plays.

Speaker 6 (30:01):
Yeah, the plays that they made, they made sure that
they had to execute at a high level.

Speaker 8 (30:05):
Yeah, I mean, I just I have to highlight the
run defense with Cook. I mean, I just thought that
was a huge part of it, watching how he is
gash teams. I mean, fifteen carries for forty nine yards
three point three along and nine for an explosive guy.
He made a couple of plays here and there. But
also just to piggyback on Paul, I just I like
Splaine he does. He tends to make contact and fall forward.

(30:25):
He doesn't give up a lot of extra yardage and
the force fumble. That's what it's all about for me
with him. If he's making plays like that, that's what
you need from your ear inside linebacker, not just to
be you know, yeah, you had twenty tackles. I can
do anything. You know, Splain is making an impact. You're
seeing that he was off on a slow start, but
this is the guy I think I saw last year
playing in Oakland or Vegas now, but just impressive job

(30:49):
on James Cook's He's having an outstanding year. He's the
second leading rusher in the NFL. I had questions of
is this run defense legit?

Speaker 16 (30:55):
Now?

Speaker 8 (30:56):
I don't know if they're as good as they were tonight.
He's got some help, but they were very, very solid
against a very good back tonight, and I think that
was a huge part of it.

Speaker 5 (31:03):
Did not let him cook. We would say, no, I
finally got my dad tonight.

Speaker 4 (31:10):
So uh, that's all I had. I don't know if
you guys have anything else, but no, that's.

Speaker 5 (31:16):
Yeah, that's all right. Let's look at some of the
bad then.

Speaker 9 (31:19):
Yeah, oh actually can I oh yeah, yeah, he's at
the top of yeah, yes, absolutely, yeah, Actually I didn't
want to over.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yes, I forgot what number he was in a second.

Speaker 8 (31:29):
I scribbled down. I scribbled thirty eight, and I was
looking at him.

Speaker 6 (31:32):
Absolutely, Yeah, you make a fifty game winner, you go on,
you go on the good list.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
Yeah yeah, yeah. Now that's a big kick for the kid.

Speaker 10 (31:40):
I know.

Speaker 6 (31:40):
That's uh, that's probably going to make him feel a
little a little bit settled down, kind of reminiscent of
Adam Benn Terry's overtime winner around this time of year
in nineteen ninety six when he was struggling to sort
of establish himself his rookie year. He made five out
of six against Jacksonville, including an overtime game winner.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
And well, one other guy.

Speaker 8 (32:00):
I just want to say, and I'm not gonna don't
officially put him on the good list because I thought
he took a bad penalty, but a just Farmer just
kind of showing up more and more to me. Yeah,
and that's a good sign for for a rookie.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
Terrible terrible penalty.

Speaker 8 (32:10):
The list did.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
He did make it. He did make a couple of plays.

Speaker 6 (32:16):
Those two penalties for the two kids that Dirden and
Farmer really just undisciplined penalties that you can't have. Probably
going to be overblown because of the way Buffalo is
moving the ball, but like you just give him three
thirty yards, that's, yeah, not what you're looking for.

Speaker 5 (32:32):
All of the Buffalo penalties offset all of.

Speaker 6 (32:34):
The Patriots, man, I mean, Buffalo's Yeah, it was insane,
But to be honest with you, the Patriots just had
those two undisciplined penalties, and then the Venerian low.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
False start, which is also on my ball man.

Speaker 6 (32:45):
Nobody got a third and one trying to protect a
you know, a three point lead late in the game
and and you come in as an extra alignment and
you commit a false start penalty that you can't have.
But penalties really weren't an issue for the Patriots, snack.
They just had some really bad undisciplined one.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Especially untimely there towards the end.

Speaker 8 (33:02):
They were really really scaring me. But I don't think
anyone's more happy the Patriots won than Venerian Lowe, who
had they lost this game, you know, costing them a
third and one when you know they could have converted,
they could have, you know, maybe sealed this thing up
a little bit earlier.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
To imagine what Joshua Farmer was thinking, I'm gonna kill him.

Speaker 7 (33:17):
I was just.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
He's on that.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
When I saw it.

Speaker 6 (33:22):
I was like, maybe he thought he was still up,
and I'm like, oh, I don't know, Oh no, he's
looking right.

Speaker 8 (33:27):
All of a sudden he got mad at the guy
and decided.

Speaker 6 (33:30):
And that's that's a big penalty on low there too.
Pass protection in this game, too, was an issue. I
thought that they ran a lot of stuff in the
Patriots young line didn't handle a lot of it very well.
I thought there was some immediate pressure. Now they have
good pass rushers, you know, Greg Russo, Joey Bosa, aj Panessa,

(33:54):
he's good players, and they've been good players for a while.
But I just thought Drake was under siege at times
in this game, you know, with immediate pressure, you know,
and in the first half he didn't handle it well.
He was you know, I thought collins Worth made a
big deal of him, as Fred said, having his eyes
on the rush instead of downfield. Second half he turned

(34:16):
that all around.

Speaker 8 (34:16):
Which is really just impressive to me that he can
get the snot kicked out of him a little bit,
and he continued to stay in there and not get
gun shy and not oh now the turnoverstart, you know.
I mean, this is just you're seeing the quarterback develop
in front of your eyes. And to go into buffalo
play like this when it's it certainly was not easy
for him tonight.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
Had to hang in there and fight. Really really impressive,
you said, put him on that down.

Speaker 12 (34:40):
Let's I.

Speaker 5 (34:42):
I struggled with this one.

Speaker 8 (34:43):
Yeah, I mean, and then unfortunately Gibson got hurt, and
then you kind of didn't really have a choice. But
they did put him back in pretty quick anyway, So
that'll be another point.

Speaker 6 (34:51):
We were curious to whether or not he was going
to get the ball again, and then the Gibson to
play happened, so he had to get the ball again.
I mean, I you know, the two touchdown, one of
the touchdowns he was untouched.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
Can't fumble. Yeah, at some point you got to stop.

Speaker 5 (35:05):
Especially after taking accountability for knowing you shouldn't fumble.

Speaker 4 (35:08):
And I thought this was another week fumbled, not a
not a oh someone should have blocked form or whatever.
I think he gets the elbow maybe on the ball there,
just to even get the punch, you know.

Speaker 8 (35:18):
But then you saw as we were pointing out then
I'm sure everybody who watched the kids anytime someone's trying
to tackle, reminder Stevenson, they're throwing the.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
He had the ball in his hands.

Speaker 6 (35:28):
He had I mean, he didn't have that many carries,
only ended up with seven carries in the game, but
he had, you know, he had a couple of kick
returns to I think he caught a pass.

Speaker 8 (35:37):
Or two watching two passes back into the left.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
So, yeah, I agree with Mike.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
I had him.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
I had him there. I don't know if I have
so just offensive offensively in the first half, Like you
get the fumble at whatever, the eleven yard line, whatever
it was, and you go four plays minus one yard
for a field goal, like that's that's disappointing. The pick
three or yea if it was an interception.

Speaker 8 (36:05):
It was a pick three.

Speaker 5 (36:08):
No, you asked during that we're talking about Stevenson backtracking.
You asked, why I no more? Not more? Marcus Jones,
why do you think?

Speaker 6 (36:17):
Yeah, they don't. He doesn't do kick returns. I don't
know why they want running. I think they want bigger
bodies on this new the new kickoff. They feel like
you have to break tackles. I don't really get it.
I think he's as electric with the ball in his
hands as anybody. I think the return game we get

(36:37):
as many opportunities as I could for him.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
A question for Jeremy's springer this week.

Speaker 8 (36:42):
We'll see with Gibson and Gibson's hurts, they're probably gonna
have to find another body back there anyway.

Speaker 6 (36:46):
Yeah, So one of the thing that I had just
the sequence I thought. I thought that they kind of
I thought Vrabel was a little different in this game.
And this isn't necessarily bad, are indifferent, whatever, But I
just thought they had a fourth and three from midfield
in the first quarter that they punted on. Felt like

(37:07):
that was a spot where they've gone for it, and
the more glaring one. I thought he kind of set
it up so he was going to run out of time.
They get the pass interferance in the end zone MIC
at the end of the half, so they get the
ball now there's only like four seconds left. They kind
of put themselves in a corner. He let about ten
seconds go off the clock about two plays three plays earlier,

(37:31):
he got the clock down about eighteen seconds.

Speaker 4 (37:35):
I thought they got a little cute with the clock there.

Speaker 6 (37:37):
And then you put yourself in a situation where there's
a penalty like that, you're not going to get the
amount of plays that you might want.

Speaker 5 (37:44):
Why the eighteen specifically and even argues for that extra second.

Speaker 6 (37:48):
He was trying to make it so he was going
to have like three plays and that was going to
end the half and there was gonna be no chance
to Buffalow to get it back, which would have worked
had they not been a penalty, and then I think,
you know, it's second and goal from the one with
one second left. I'd have taken a shot. Yeah, I'd
have taken a shot and gone for it. I think
that's what he's done. I mean, he went for a

(38:09):
fourth and one from his own fifteen.

Speaker 13 (38:10):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (38:11):
So I think he probably felt it was important to
get the lead at the half. They had played a
you know, a solid half, and he probably wanted to
go to the break with the lead. Yeah, But I
just felt like ten to three would have been so
much more impressive than six to three.

Speaker 8 (38:25):
I agree.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
I mean, I like, I don't.

Speaker 8 (38:28):
I'm okay, Like you had one crack at the end
zone and then settling, But at the time I felt
pretty sure that we're going to come back and say
we needed the extra four points here.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
They didn't. I mean, you know, they could have, but
they didn't ultimately.

Speaker 8 (38:41):
But it's interesting as we go along getting to know
Mike Rabel and his coaching tendencies, and it's a like,
to Paul's point, it's a little jarring to see extreme
aggression and then he kind of pulls back a little
bit in a game where kind of billing it to
his team as no one believes in us, we got
to just go in there and do it. You know,
maybe I'm misinterpreting exactly how he was selling it to

(39:03):
his team, but just interesting. I mean, it's I guess
it's more of a field thing. Maybe for him, He's
not always going to be stupid aggressive, but I guess
we'll see as the season continued.

Speaker 6 (39:11):
Yeah, and I don't think, you know, and I that's
a good way to put it. I you know, I
don't think it would have been stupid aggressive to go
for the fourth down from I mean, going from the
second down, second and goal from the one. Maybe the
fourth and three would have been a little too aggressive.
You know, you're giving them a short fielding nothing game.
You know, play the field position. As you pointed out, Barringer,

(39:34):
you know, pinned them. Yeah, now, you know, the Bills
did a good job of pinning themselves all night by
committing a holding call every other play in the first half.
They had two separate first and seventeens in this game.
You know, it well worked out for them. And that's
why I'm not necessarily saying I'm putting it on the
Bad List.

Speaker 4 (39:52):
I just thought it was worth conversation.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
Yeah, no, I think so. I mean, it's uh, it's
interest because you love this stuff.

Speaker 8 (39:57):
I do love situational football and an idiot well, I mean,
but it's but it always it's part of the game
that I kind of take for granted sometimes and I'm like, well,
we went for it, he didn't go for it.

Speaker 7 (40:06):
I don't, you know.

Speaker 8 (40:07):
But but Paul loves that stuff and keeps track of it,
and it is interesting when you add it all up
and say, we went for here, you didn't go for
it here. What's you know, what's kind of your coaching philosophy?
That's what we're getting to learn with him and stretch.

Speaker 6 (40:20):
Yeah, maybe when when Matt has the you know, the
Rabel post game, maybe that that was brought up. My
guess is it won't be. But because I don't think
anybody really cares.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
About awesome, right I do.

Speaker 4 (40:33):
How awesome was that winn? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (40:39):
I didn't really have I mean the three and ow was.
You just can't have seven minutes left up twenty to seventeen,
you know, you can't have a three and out there.
And we talked about badarian Low and how he contributed
to that. But yeah, I mean I I have a
hard time with a lot of the bads tonight because
this was just a really, really good team win.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
What about the reft all right at them?

Speaker 6 (41:01):
Anytime a hocey Le's involved, the game's gonna take a
little extra time.

Speaker 5 (41:04):
They wanted to hear themselves talk.

Speaker 6 (41:07):
Sure, Yeah, the alignment issues, like I just don't have
any use for those, you know, they just they just
have like one alignment problem after the one that Hunter
Henry's like pointing in the referees like, you know, you
still got to call a penalty.

Speaker 4 (41:21):
He's telling you, am I am? I good?

Speaker 6 (41:25):
And they do it and I'm not trying to be
a homer about it. I mean they call they called
like three on Buffalo too, Like it's just I hate it.

Speaker 8 (41:32):
I closed the game.

Speaker 14 (41:32):
I hate it.

Speaker 8 (41:33):
And you just way too aware of the referees now
just point out. I mean, this is a great bit.
Ar tweeted though. May's first half nine of sixteen for
eighty nine yards, second half thirteen or fourteen for one
hundred and eighty four. Yeah he was in fuego in
the second half. Good job, kid, got to build off
of it, though.

Speaker 4 (41:51):
It's the best half of football I've seen him play.

Speaker 8 (41:54):
Yeah, and I mean again coming off of not as
great ass, but this is kind of what I'm talking
about too.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
It was like there was some chunk throws there too, Sonky.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
I love it. I love it.

Speaker 4 (42:05):
And that's how you score.

Speaker 8 (42:06):
We said it last week, something to build off of
last week, and they just know what was at that
first scoring drive I think, or the first touchdown moment
they came out in the second half, and I mean
it was a sixteen yarder to Digs. It was a
sixteen yarder then to Booty, then the thirty two yarder
back to Digs. I mean, you know, big chunk plays
and that's you know, and that's where I give some
credit to josh of you know, being able to diagram

(42:29):
some stuff up. And I just have confidence in the
offensive design right now, which is something I can't say
I had the last few seasons around here, where you know,
even like that second Remandree touchdown where it was just
he walked into the end zone.

Speaker 6 (42:42):
You know, that was that was nice design because I
was a little critical and I thought that I thought
a lot of their offense was was two guys just
making place thing. Yeah, you know, and May, I mean
May's throws on the run. But that's a good example
of scheme. Like that little flip out to you know,
like you get to walk in from the seven yard line.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
That's pretty good scheme.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
I'd say it's showing up in the red zone too.

Speaker 8 (43:01):
Blocking scheme week like seeing some Hunter Henry easy Throat
touchdown throw a week ago, you know, those kind of plays.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
He just you know, Josh can scheme some stuff up,
and I just.

Speaker 8 (43:13):
That bodes really well.

Speaker 17 (43:15):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (43:15):
And it also bodes really well that it seems like
Drake is picking up what he's putting down.

Speaker 5 (43:20):
So there were a few injuries in this one unfortunately.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
Yeah, the big one was Antonio Gibson ruled out.

Speaker 8 (43:26):
Looked like a knee injury. We weren't sure if it
was actually the hit or the plant before, having like
reviewing some of the tape, they felt like it might
have been the plant before.

Speaker 5 (43:38):
And his face walking often us any and he's a.

Speaker 8 (43:41):
Great guy in the locker room, you know, just always upbeat,
happy to talk to us. So you just you feel
for these guys when you get to know him a
little bit. And then the other was Carlton Davis, who
came back. Kind of a weekly occurrence with him where
he sits on the field for a second, somebody checks
him out.

Speaker 5 (43:56):
Back on the field and that was friendly fire too.

Speaker 8 (43:59):
Yeah, left me.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (44:00):
And he's another one who just who fought hard the
whole game, you know, gave up some plays, but but
also made some plays. So, uh, it's good to see,
Paul pointed out Gonzales. Good to see them coming into form,
especially Gonzalez. I mean, if he's able to, you know,
make start making plays like he made tonight, the Patriots
are really going to be had in a good direction.
And I mean you talk about you get Gonzalez back

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last week, you get to Vie back this week.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
A little bit of reinforcements give you a little.

Speaker 8 (44:25):
Bit more options for the defense to, you know, to
play with and to match up against.

Speaker 5 (44:30):
Kean White went out, but I don't I didn't see.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
Somebody mentioned that. I didn't see that one.

Speaker 4 (44:35):
He left the game.

Speaker 8 (44:36):
Updates after that, I don't know if he got hurt
too late.

Speaker 6 (44:40):
I don't know if he I don't I don't remember
if he returned. It was late in the game that
it came up on the on the stats on the Jesus,
but I didn't see him come back in so I mean,
obviously the Gibson one looks to believe something that could
be long term.

Speaker 8 (45:00):
Yeah, And that to me is something that got to
think about coming out of this. Because Romandre fumbled again,
you clearly had an injury. So you're already now in
the market. You got to get somebody. And with Gibson
playing the role that he does as a kick returner
and really being Remondre insurance. Again, it's October, there's nobody.
You know, Barry Sanders isn't sitting out there on the

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free agency list, but I think they might have to
try to find somebody who can play unless they.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
Like, you know, Terrell Jennings been on the practice squad
for the last two years. He's been around.

Speaker 8 (45:28):
But with the way running backs are these days, there's
got to be a name out there right now. And
I don't know off the top of my head there'll
be something to look up tomorrow, but I would I
wouldn't be surprised to see somebody get in here pretty quick.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
Who's who's probably going to carry the ball for them?

Speaker 8 (45:41):
And if Ramondre's fumbles continue, there might be a guy
who ends up being their most significant back down the stretch.
If Gibson's gone for the year, if Romandre can't clean
this stuff up, which again he's staying in the locker room,
like I got to clean it up. It's you know,
at a certain point, bro so litally sure do well.

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Speaker 13 (46:28):
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Speaker 3 (46:29):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (46:30):
Let's take some calls. Let's see Christian la is saying, yeah,
time is early.

Speaker 18 (46:37):
For you.

Speaker 15 (46:39):
Still early here.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
It worked tomorrow it doesn't work.

Speaker 19 (46:43):
I think this was a great win and I think
it was a win the way I said we needed
to win. I said, if we could control the sideline,
the sideline explosive plays for them, which means how our
line linebackers play well, that our d back to really
control their receivers. And I think we did just that.
Everything that they tried to get was up the middle,
and obviously their turnament was up the middle too. So

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it feels like an amazing team culture win. It's a
win that tells the team you can do this. If
we play focus, if we play sharp, there's nobody that
we can't beat. And that's the kind of game that
we played tonight. Whether or not it was perfect, that's
a different thing.

Speaker 20 (47:20):
And it feels like if we can.

Speaker 19 (47:21):
Focus and tighten up a little bit more, we can
come out of October seven and two.

Speaker 7 (47:27):
What do you guys think right now?

Speaker 3 (47:29):
I'm just thinking about four and two.

Speaker 8 (47:30):
But but I like the point though, of beating a
good team.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
You know, it's it's like, it's great to blow out the.

Speaker 8 (47:36):
Panthers, for sure at home, but you know, and that
definitely inspired some confidence in the team. You know, even
the win down in Miami had its flaws, but you're
not going to complain about. And geez, I'm just realizing.

Speaker 6 (47:47):
That that's the biggest win they've had this like the
Super Bowl, right, I mean, like, what are you going
to say?

Speaker 4 (47:51):
What else?

Speaker 6 (47:52):
I mean, you know, maybe I guess something in twenty
one twenty one before they fell apart rolling, but I
don't remember them when a game like this. I don't
remember them beating a quality team like this without you know,
without you know, asterisks, you know, like that wind game
in Buffalo where you know, like all.

Speaker 4 (48:08):
The crazy stuff happened. This was the best win. I think.

Speaker 6 (48:12):
Christian's right, like the the culture, it's a culture building win.
You know, they're gonna they're going to get a lift
from this win.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
You know.

Speaker 8 (48:19):
Me, I'm always talking about playoffs go through the division.
But I mean, you know, for Mike, were able to
lead this Patriots team to win in Miami and in
Buffalo in his first five games as a Patriots head coach.
I'll take that. I'll take that for sure.

Speaker 5 (48:34):
All right, let's go down to Orlando where Chris is.

Speaker 16 (48:39):
Hi, CHRISY, what's going on? Guys? I got a question.
I hate to be the pessimistic guy, and I'm going
to play the role here. Rimandre obviously bounces back. I can't.
I can't take this much longer, I gotta say, and
late Mike Rabile still constantly goes back to him. It's

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got to be some type of competence he obviously has
in him. And I know we play that if what if,
maybe game we should take to win. I'm very happy
from Dray fumbles the ball in that position, then that's
on Mike, you know, and I.

Speaker 19 (49:14):
Just hate to see.

Speaker 16 (49:15):
I just don't know why he keeps putting them in
the game. Travion Henderson is a very, very good running back.
I don't know what your guys' thoughts.

Speaker 6 (49:22):
On that is, but I like he might be someday,
but he hasn't really shown that in five weeks. I
don't know how I wouldn't have felt much better about
Trevion Henderson getting those carries at the end of the
game that I did about ramondra Stevenson.

Speaker 4 (49:39):
I get it. I understand what he's saying.

Speaker 6 (49:41):
You know, like, yeah, Mike and I were standing there
and we were like holding our breath. A couple of
times there was guys coming from the backside and you're
like you could see them winding up and yeah, no,
I mean, I get it. I I'm with I'm with
the caller. I understand the hesitation. But there have been
some sloppy plays from Trevion Henderson so far, you know,

(50:04):
in terms of his blitz pick up, like don't discount
that element of why you're on the field or not
on the field, Like he's been struggling in pass protection
and Remindra Stevenson's really good at that, so you might say, well,
why don't you just take him off the field when
it's all because then you're letting everybody know what's going on.

Speaker 4 (50:23):
So I didn't.

Speaker 6 (50:25):
I wonder what it would have been, Like I wonder
what Mike would have done had Gibson not gotten hurt.
I wonder, you know, Mike do So said to me
right away, does he get another carry in this game?
You said it right after the fumble, and I said yeah,
and I go, but I'm not sure, you know, And

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then all of a sudden, you know, you get a
knee injury and he's out, and you know, you're back
to the drawing board.

Speaker 8 (50:52):
I mean, I think the factor that people probably don't
quite pop to the forefront is that they really trust
him in pass protection and that. You know, that's a
part in third down. I mean, that's the money down
in football, and Henderson's not there yet. We liked what
he did in college, but it hasn't quite translated yet
to the pros. It's complicated figuring it all out.

Speaker 6 (51:12):
Two catches for three yards for Henderson, you know, six
carries for twenty four which is okay, four yards of carry.
Thirteen of them came on one of the carries. You know,
it's been slow. I'm not like telling you like, oh,
let's have some warning warning flags for Trayvon Henderson, but
I am based on the production that he's had through

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five games. I have really been surprised by how many
people are saying, why are we not turning the offense
over to Trayvon Henderson. I just would ask, what has
he done to warrant that kind of consideration right now?

Speaker 3 (51:45):
Hype in the preseasons, but yeah, I know.

Speaker 4 (51:48):
A lot of guys play well in the preseason, as
we know.

Speaker 6 (51:51):
I mean, I'll give you a couple of guys that
I was really high on coming out of the preseason
that really have done very little. Alex Austin and Calebon Chasing.
You know, Chasin's better than Austin. But those are two
guys I that played exceptionally well in the preseason. Yeah,
and I mean, and they haven't really been a huge
factor so far.

Speaker 8 (52:09):
I've made this point last week too. Took James White
a full year. I mean, you know, it doesn't necessarily
even if Travion doesn't become a star as a rookie, Like,
I still think there's going to be that role for him.
But it's like Paul said, it's been a little bit slow,
but I still like what he has. I just I
think what's been disappointing to me is I can handle
growing pains in pass protection, but I'd like to at
least just see a little of the juice that I

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saw in the preseason and in practices when he just
seemed to be like a lightning bolt through the hole.
And now it's you know, he's a little bit more
quick to take on contact and has a little trouble
getting away from guys, and you know that to me,
he's been a little disappointing, but I'll allow him to
you know, he's not gonna get on the field and
third down just yet, so maybe once he learns pass
protection the way they want him to. Then they put

(52:52):
him in there, out there and third down, and then
maybe he's able to run routes that are maybe a
little more suited to what he does.

Speaker 6 (52:56):
But I do get it. It was it Craig that just
called I do yeah. I mean, you're right, You're absolutely right.
I mean he's getting carries at the end of the game.
And I'm not gonna lie and say that. I you know,
I didn't have a care in the world, you know.
You know, Mike and I are looking at every single
one of those and holding our breath.

Speaker 5 (53:13):
All right, let's take it to North Carolina with elder.

Speaker 15 (53:18):
Hey. I don't know the lady name in the middle,
but Paul, Mike, how you doing.

Speaker 4 (53:25):
That's Kwannie.

Speaker 15 (53:26):
Nice to meet you, hey, miss kwannye.

Speaker 6 (53:30):
Hul Yes, sir, we got that guy, absolutely, I got
you know, there's a lot of people that were jumping
off the bandwagon, you know. I get asked if they
should have drafted J. J. McCarthy, you know, and we
after week one and I told people I'd take him
over jayde and Daniels and I I still get laughed

(53:50):
at for that, but I stand by it.

Speaker 15 (53:53):
Yes, sir, I got to go with debt. Can we
get rid of lof.

Speaker 8 (54:01):
You pay one play?

Speaker 3 (54:02):
You know what?

Speaker 4 (54:03):
You know what I love about our listeners.

Speaker 6 (54:06):
We just had the biggest win in the last five years,
and we've had back to back.

Speaker 4 (54:11):
Calls that want to change, you know, just change things.
We can't.

Speaker 6 (54:16):
We can't run this guy anymore. And we got to
get this guy off the team.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
You got algia, We'll do it for you.

Speaker 15 (54:23):
Well, the thing is, can we get some linebackers that
can cover in space? I mean, death was killing. Everything
else looks pretty good, but those linebackers in the middle.

Speaker 6 (54:34):
Big eye, man, that's a pretty good offense you went
against tonight. You held them, You held them to twenty points.
I know it wasn't perfect, I believe me. I know
it wasn't perfect, but that's the state. That's an offense
that does not get held below thirty very often, and
you held them below thirty.

Speaker 15 (54:51):
And I'm glad. But it might be the changing o
the torch. We never know. But you have a good night.

Speaker 4 (54:55):
That's the freend Church theory.

Speaker 5 (54:57):
Thank you.

Speaker 8 (54:58):
Thanks gee uh little little nugget get a nugget from
via Doug kid out of the program.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
He said, the Patriots got inspiration from an unlikely source.

Speaker 8 (55:10):
This morning. Many players talked about a speech ex Colts
head coach Tony Dungee gave the team about sticking together,
owning your role and knowing your role. And you talked
to him and had the opportunity to sit him right here,
which is pretty cool. So uh yeah, that is a
little littlepiration.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
From the Colts.

Speaker 8 (55:25):
Very cool, very nice.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
I mean, it's you know, surreal.

Speaker 8 (55:28):
We I mean, Friday was crazy because I walk in
and Richard Seymour is in is in ksp over there
and NFL Hall of Famer still a mountain of a man.
And then you know, having the opportunity to talk to
Rodney and Tony Dungee, which you know, I mean essentially
what should be three Hall of Fame football players. Rodney
isn't in there yet, but uh but now I thought
that was a cool, cool nugget from from Doug. And

(55:48):
thanks Tony Colt giving us give us the tips there.

Speaker 5 (55:52):
We'll take the inspiration, all right. We have Pat in Australia.
That's where I want to know what time it is, hi, Pat?

Speaker 8 (56:00):
Probably Monday there right.

Speaker 5 (56:02):
Tomorrow, looking bat Man, I call back please, I'll take
it to Mark in California.

Speaker 8 (56:12):
So Hi Mark, Mark.

Speaker 21 (56:16):
Marl about going into Buffalo and getting a win.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
Oh yeah, we don't see that anymore.

Speaker 7 (56:23):
Okay, not good.

Speaker 21 (56:27):
I gotta I gotta quick comment on the Joshua Farmer penalty.
I don't know if you guys noticed this, but on
the broadcast, I didn't hear a whistle blow. I know
the guy was down on his knee, but maybe he
was just playing to the whistle on that.

Speaker 7 (56:42):
What do you got to think?

Speaker 8 (56:43):
Well effort and finished our two of the two of
the mon What is it was a cheap shot? I
mean I just and down death like you can see
James Cooks like getting ready to like throw the ball
down like he was like, calm down, man. Uh Now
it's unfortunate because I I kind of like what I
see not far of the man.

Speaker 4 (57:04):
Every time I see it, it just looks like it gets worse.

Speaker 14 (57:07):
It does.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
Oh my god, I can't believe. I shouldn't say. I
can't believe he wasn't concustom Pretty.

Speaker 10 (57:15):
Sure he was.

Speaker 6 (57:16):
Yeah, man, looks like it slams the ground pretty good. Yeah,
I mean it's unfortunate. I'm not going to define a
kid by one play.

Speaker 4 (57:23):
But that's a bad play.

Speaker 6 (57:24):
Well, absolutely, and you're right, Mike, I thought he showed
up otherwise. You know, I probably didn't play a tremendous amount,
but he was active.

Speaker 8 (57:32):
Words out ding me have a debo from Friday when
he get himself worked up and angry and be like.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
Man, it wasn't mean what are you talking about?

Speaker 4 (57:39):
There's the guy whole. I'll just get.

Speaker 8 (57:42):
Hard at him.

Speaker 5 (57:45):
Well done.

Speaker 8 (57:46):
At twelve thirty, twelve thirty am, where we're allowed to
get the.

Speaker 6 (57:49):
New day, it's Monday, I'm hitting it, hitting no wall.

Speaker 5 (57:52):
Well, of course we're getting tons of great emails. We
have one that's the headlined Drake m VP candidate. Patriot
has been doing everything to beat themselves this he's in it.
This time they pulled through, Robert.

Speaker 8 (58:02):
I mean I was kind of dismissive of that going
into this game.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
But you keep playing like.

Speaker 6 (58:07):
This said will if you win games? Yes, especially in
that man right now. Is he an MVP candidate? Probably not,
But if they go ten and seven, eleven and six,
and it's because of Drake may like tonight, yes he's
going to be an MVP candidate, just like Jayden Daniels
was an MVP candidate last year when Washington went If

(58:27):
they went five and twelve and not twelve and five,
you're not an MVP candidate.

Speaker 4 (58:32):
The difference. You got to find a win. You got
to find ways to win games.

Speaker 6 (58:36):
Tonight Drake May won a game and Curtiss t VP candidate.

Speaker 4 (58:42):
Absolutely, it's building.

Speaker 5 (58:43):
It's building to that. Curtis and Saint Louis. He what
a game? Edge of my seat definitely an ugly one.
Miraculous plays, but the headline ugly one for the patrons hunger. Well,
I guess I'm hoping he's being ugly for the bills.

Speaker 6 (58:57):
Yeah, I mean, we still have a lot of enormous way.
I don't think you can overstate this win. This is
an s culture building win.

Speaker 5 (59:03):
Cautionly optimistic, That's what I'm getting from most of these emails.

Speaker 4 (59:06):
Are you surprised?

Speaker 5 (59:08):
I think that's that's the the mike.

Speaker 4 (59:11):
If I'm overstating it, you can.

Speaker 6 (59:13):
I'm surprised that I'm surprised we've gotten as much, not
negative calls. We haven't got any negative calls, but like
you know, tempered, like I figured it'd be full pants off.
Can I let's go.

Speaker 8 (59:23):
It's too late though, maybe maybe right, it's definitely too
late for me.

Speaker 4 (59:28):
Grandpa needs sleep, so.

Speaker 8 (59:29):
Jama pants are on, and they're like, we're not going
pants off at this point. Yeah, but no, I am
a little surprised, and I'm sure tomorrow will probably get
the full brunt of it, because I mean, I said
in the pregame show, I thought that there would be,
you know, specific like overreaction either way. If they he's
not ready, they're not the guy you know or you know,
leave a final drive.

Speaker 3 (59:47):
So I'm sure that we'll get there.

Speaker 6 (59:48):
But I was expecting an overreaction in the positive way,
Like I thought we should get the overreaction tonight.

Speaker 8 (59:57):
If somebody overnight, then I tomorrow morning.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
Yeah, I think one of these guys gonna.

Speaker 5 (01:00:03):
Well Hendrick in Norway, what do you think.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
The Norwegian's over react?

Speaker 5 (01:00:08):
Thanks for taking my call, of course, thanks for calling us.

Speaker 22 (01:00:13):
No worries. I'm very proud tonight. I'm a very proud
Patriots fan tonight. This was a great victory. I feel
like this is the best victory the Patriots have had
since beating the Los Angeles Rams in Super Bowl fifty three.

Speaker 4 (01:00:27):
I think you may be correct.

Speaker 22 (01:00:31):
That's good to hear Paul, thank you so much.

Speaker 4 (01:00:36):
Good shot at me like that.

Speaker 13 (01:00:38):
I like that.

Speaker 22 (01:00:40):
It goes throughout saying, but I'm very proud of the
players tonight from Lamandra Steven said getting two touchdowns Drake Mary,
He's a great player. He's gonna be a great quarterback.
H and Stefan Diggs and Mike Label for guiding the team,
preparing the team. Uh, I'm just gonna leave with this.
I hope you guys are considering postponing the post game

(01:01:05):
for ably thirty minutes. I wouldn't mind listening to you
guys speak a little bit longer than years. So thankful
to take Michael, have a nice.

Speaker 8 (01:01:14):
Day, have a nice sunrise.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
The post He want us to the longer.

Speaker 8 (01:01:21):
He wants more, He wants us to go longer.

Speaker 5 (01:01:25):
All right, Well Shawn is in Vancouver. Let's see how
he's doing.

Speaker 23 (01:01:31):
Seyean, Yeah, I just got in. I'm very excited.

Speaker 7 (01:01:35):
You know what.

Speaker 23 (01:01:35):
The the thing about Diggs, like it's not just the Bills,
he's growing with the chemistry with May, it's this is
a thing like we're going to keep seeing this and
and he's going to keep having big games in it
and with the Patriots. I see this as like this
could be like a six game winning streak. They might
not lose until November ninth in Tampa. This is pretty incredible.

Speaker 7 (01:01:59):
I'm very.

Speaker 4 (01:02:02):
Now, is that too much to ask? That's the overreaction.
We might never lose a game, but that's the reaction
I'm looking for.

Speaker 6 (01:02:10):
You there you go, Yeah, you be you win in Buffalo,
Like you should expect to win every game.

Speaker 4 (01:02:18):
Now.

Speaker 6 (01:02:19):
Obviously you know you're not going to win every game,
but you should expect to win.

Speaker 4 (01:02:22):
Now, that's what wins like this should do.

Speaker 8 (01:02:26):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:02:26):
It's not we're hoping to win, it's we should expect
to win.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
Yeah. No, it's a it's a little hard at this
at this hour of the night too.

Speaker 4 (01:02:34):
Yeah, that's a ratchet it up even for me.

Speaker 8 (01:02:37):
Well, you know what else is hard about it is
that first half of the game, it was like, can
we just and it's like it was just like a
rock fight with penalties and no flow to the game,
and it was three field goals and it just felt
like and then the second half felt like a real
football game, which I thought the whole game would be like,
but I think that kind of colors a little bit.
And then you're like I'm still wrapping my head around

(01:02:58):
what happened in that second half is even coming down
to the field goal, it was just like, oh my god,
is this you know? Is it? There were so many
twists and turns down there at the end. So no,
it's a no question, huge win. I mean I always
am like, all right on to the next one. Yeah,
they should savor this one because you don't get that
chance to beat Josh Allen. I have so much respect
for them and what they've built there and Patriots. You know,

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they had to hang on a little bit at times,
and you always know Josh Allen, those guys are gonna
make some plays. They again, they took some punches, they
landed some punches we needed.

Speaker 5 (01:03:31):
So Martin is in Kansas, Martin, Hello.

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
Maurteen, good evening.

Speaker 7 (01:03:38):
Hey, gentlemen, ladies, hear me, Yes, I do so the
Deuce yeh.

Speaker 13 (01:03:44):
Won this game.

Speaker 19 (01:03:45):
I'm just gonna say that right now.

Speaker 7 (01:03:48):
I wish I'd get more production at the offense.

Speaker 19 (01:03:50):
Stevenson's walking that tight rope tonight.

Speaker 10 (01:03:53):
I'm happy for the win.

Speaker 15 (01:03:55):
It was very.

Speaker 7 (01:03:55):
Stressful, you know what, the Pats could.

Speaker 15 (01:03:58):
Be undefeated in October.

Speaker 10 (01:04:00):
Let's go very happy.

Speaker 19 (01:04:02):
They covered that I appreciated pre post game go sorry
pre and postgame show.

Speaker 10 (01:04:08):
I love it.

Speaker 19 (01:04:09):
Uh, what do you guys think there is gonna be
at the end of November?

Speaker 13 (01:04:12):
Thank you?

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
All right?

Speaker 5 (01:04:14):
Undefeated In October, Man Foot.

Speaker 8 (01:04:16):
Paul wants to hear guy, I said nine wins before
the season, and I say nine wins now, sticking nine.

Speaker 6 (01:04:23):
So I'm gonna up my win total to nine now
because I did not envision a win before the season
started in Buffalo. So I think nine wins is a
good this this could this could be a playoff team.
And I haven't said that all off season. But this
is what I like to think separates us from a
lot of these other shows. In a lot of these

(01:04:46):
other analysts, like I do not get set and what
my predetermined thoughts are. When I see things that change
what reality is, I recognize them if they're capable of
going on the out and playing the way that they
played tonight. Again not perfect. They didn't have to play
a perfect game to beat Buffalo tonight. Now, Buffalo, I'm

(01:05:08):
not blind. Buffalo played terribly for the large stretches of
that game. But the Patriots played well against a quality opponent,
and they'd made all the plays at the end of
the game to win. Why would you not expect them
to be able to do that against New Orleans, Cleveland, Tennessee. Yeah,
you know, Atlanta will be won't be a cupcake. Tampa

(01:05:29):
won't be a cupcake. They'll have some tough games. They'll
have some tough, tough games down the stretch. But you
know what, I think they're going to have some games
that you thought were tough that aren't going to be
quite as tough, like Baltimore, possibly in Cincinnati. But so
I think this they have every opportunity to be a
playoff team.

Speaker 4 (01:05:47):
They really do it.

Speaker 6 (01:05:48):
There's a long way to go. We were in the
first week of October. There's a long way to go.
But the potentially stay healthy and you're going to have
a chance.

Speaker 5 (01:05:56):
Yeah, all right, Alex is up in Greece. I'm looking
at what time it is over everywhere. People are calling
from good morning or afternoon.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
Alex.

Speaker 20 (01:06:07):
Yes, oh it's it's it's seven am.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
Good morning.

Speaker 20 (01:06:11):
I set my alarm for three just to watch the game.

Speaker 10 (01:06:15):
Well at least, yeah, yeah, it.

Speaker 20 (01:06:18):
Was, it was so I I have a I guess
it's kind of like a nitpicky question. We won the game,
so like, obviously I'm ecstatic we won, like in the
grand scheme of things, but that sequence before the board
Gallas kick, we did like a run run pass sequence.
I guess to make the Bills burn the clock, but
it just feels like we put ourselves in a bad

(01:06:39):
situation where we had to convert that third down or
else we had to kick a super long field goal.
So do you guys have any problem with that sequence
in the moment, I know we won the game, Like
obviously I'm nitpicking, but like, do you guys want to
see us be more aggressive down the stretch in that
sort of situation until I got thanks checking my so.

Speaker 6 (01:06:57):
Yeah, on the first down play, I actually said the
same thing to Mike. We lined up with You know,
I think it was the complete the play after the
completion of Booty, they lined up with a full back
and clearly told everybody he was just gonna run the
ball and make Buffalo take timeouts. I thought that the
goal should have been to get one more first down
and make sure that that was the last possession of

(01:07:18):
the game. Now, ultimately, you know, you melted the clock
down to fifteen seconds, so next best thing it was
pretty you know, the way it worked out was pretty good.
I think Drake learned something on the third down play.
Didn't throw it away, yeah, didn't scramble out of bounds,
just stayed in bounds, took the sack or whatever, maybe
it was a run, but.

Speaker 4 (01:07:38):
Then he kept the clock running.

Speaker 3 (01:07:40):
And that's this play here with Booty getting down.

Speaker 8 (01:07:41):
I mean just I think you're seeing some good examples
across the team of just important situational awareness and you know,
knowing when.

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
To get down, when to throw it away, when those.

Speaker 8 (01:07:51):
Kind of things, those subtle little things good sign players
are taken to coaching, understanding what the goal is. I mean, yeah,
this is the play here. I mean, this is I mean,
you know, how many times does that try to force
it into a tight spot. Maybe it gets picked, but
I think you're just you're seeing strides across the board.
It's not just the execution of the offense or you know,
hitting the big plays. Those are certainly things that are

(01:08:13):
looking better and improved, but it's also the little things
that you know, sometimes are.

Speaker 6 (01:08:17):
But I do think they could have been a little
more aggressive in that situation and gotten themselves as you know,
I mean, it was a fifty two yard field goal,
which to me is not I mean, in this day
and age, that's not really long anymore, you know. To me,
it's kind of gotten pushed back to fifty five and
even even fifty eight. But to me, more important was
if you get a first down, you're kicking that field

(01:08:39):
goal as time expires, and that's what your goal should be.

Speaker 13 (01:08:41):
There.

Speaker 6 (01:08:42):
Yeah, you know, so if they could have gotten one
more first down, you know, as it turned out, it
was fifteen seconds left, so Buffalo really didn't have and then.

Speaker 4 (01:08:51):
They executed the kickoff perfectly.

Speaker 6 (01:08:53):
Now they got some help from Curtis Samuel running across
the field, which takes a lot of time, but you
land that field, you land that kickoff down. What Samuel
probably should have done is let it bounce and see
if it goes in the end zone and take it
at the twenty and that way you still have fifteen seconds.
If you had fifteen seconds, I wouldn't have felt great,

(01:09:17):
oh yeah, because I think that's two plays. And you know,
with with eight seconds, they were very very limited to
be able to kick a field goal fifteen seconds, though
you could have you could have thrown one over the middle,
maybe run up and spiked it and maybe got time
for another quick out or something like that. Wouldn't have
been easy. But that kickoff is executed perfectly right there.

(01:09:39):
They covered it well, and then they get a break
when Samuel instead of just going straight up the gut,
he stays on the numbers right here, maybe gets out
to the twenty five yard on, but he cuts across
the field. He takes valuable time off the clock to
get and it invites a penalty, which they got because
I don't know if you were watching this game tonight,
but Buffalo got called for a penalty pretty much every.

Speaker 4 (01:09:58):
Time they had eleven accepted penalties. I'll bet you they.

Speaker 6 (01:10:02):
Were over fifteen. Oh my God, called on them tonight.
That was as batter for this. It's part of the
reason why I like the Patriots in this game. I
just don't think Buffalo has played all that well so far.
I think that they've been a little sloppy and kind
of seemingly a little disinterested, and you know, I don't know,
maybe they're just not that good. Because that's three weeks

(01:10:23):
in a row, same performance for Buffalo, three weeks in
a row.

Speaker 5 (01:10:28):
All right, let's take it to who do I pick next.
Eric in North Carolina. Hello you one guys.

Speaker 13 (01:10:36):
How you doing Eric? Good?

Speaker 12 (01:10:40):
Hey, tonight is the night that sold me on Drake May.

Speaker 13 (01:10:43):
I've been a little.

Speaker 12 (01:10:44):
Petsity, a little gun shy after mac jones experience to
jump on the main train, but he showed me that
grit that I've been looking for and I finally feel
like maybe we got a.

Speaker 13 (01:10:54):
Shot at playoffs now, you know, and I'm with you, Eric,
even though tonight was thank you and tonight was kind
of the main big show, but we give a little
shout out to Booty and.

Speaker 12 (01:11:08):
The Mario for coming over with a couple of first
downs in big spots.

Speaker 6 (01:11:12):
Yeah, Mike, Mike mentioned those guys. I think they were
very big plays that you brought up too. When you
think you had Hunter Henry in that group.

Speaker 8 (01:11:20):
Too, Yeah, a big play from him on that absolutely
that first drive.

Speaker 4 (01:11:24):
Yeah, not a lot of volume from those guys, but
big plays.

Speaker 5 (01:11:27):
Yeah, thanks Eric.

Speaker 12 (01:11:29):
The defense wasn't perfect, but we're playing tough, so hey.

Speaker 13 (01:11:32):
Let's go.

Speaker 6 (01:11:33):
That was a greaty, pretty performance all around for the
whole team.

Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
Thanks Eric, one.

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Speaker 5 (01:14:42):
The Patriots postgame show presented by DraftKings. It's officially Monday morning.
Paul Paillo, Kwani Lunaz, Deuce is here. Thank you for
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Speaker 8 (01:14:55):
Right, yeah, let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:14:57):
This is our building the next legacy in that.

Speaker 8 (01:15:00):
I think today's thing to build off of was absolutely
Drake Maybe in a clutch in the final drive of
the game, leading the Patriots to game winning field goal.
You know, last week we talked about explosive plays being
something to build off of, and they did. They had
those things again this week. Huge part of the game.
And for Drake, you know, to be able to go
out there, the game on the line, tied up one chance,

(01:15:21):
I mean plenty of time. You go three and out
right there, you leave plenty of time for Buffalo to
come back. So I think this week's thing to build
on is Drake May in the clutch delivering a winning performance.
So great job, Drake, and hopefully he can continue to
do that, however many more times he needs to. I'm
not sure what Tom Brady's final numbers were, but that's
what he did.

Speaker 3 (01:15:37):
Best man game was on the line. That guy was unstoppable.

Speaker 8 (01:15:40):
So if you want to have a great quarterback, you
want to win championships, you got to have a quarterback
who can win when it's on the line. And that's
what Drake did today.

Speaker 5 (01:15:48):
One hundred percent agree. The confidence is growing, the seeing
the field is important. He kept making connections with Stefon Diggs. Again,
we talked about that earlier already, how this was an
important matchup for Diggs as well. But I really liked
what we saw today.

Speaker 4 (01:16:02):
Stuck yesterday, Yeah exactly, he really did.

Speaker 8 (01:16:05):
Yeah, I'm sure it feels good for him, and you know,
could only build more confidence in the team. And you're
looking at the little nuggets of you know, a rookie
like Andy boorgallis hitting a big kick, so you know,
he's been a little bit up and down, and you know,
just see how a team can grow and build off
a victory like this.

Speaker 5 (01:16:20):
It's like you knew in pregame that this was coming.

Speaker 8 (01:16:22):
Now, we just we talk a lot and eventually something
this day we talk about. Yeah, there we go, and you.

Speaker 5 (01:16:29):
Know what thing else you want to build upon?

Speaker 4 (01:16:31):
No, this is Mike's this is Mike's thing. Yeah, okay, well, Mike,
Mike's Bob the Builder. You're doing a great job.

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Speaker 5 (01:18:00):
Welcome back in once again to the Patriots Post Game
Show presented by Draft Kings. Matt is joining us now.
Paul pa Arroolo of course is still here. Duice is
still here. I'm Kwannie Linis. Thanks for sticking with us.
I'm gonna keep thinking you because this is a good
win to still be sticking around to talk about.

Speaker 4 (01:18:16):
If you're not excited and happy to talk about this one, then.

Speaker 8 (01:18:19):
You're what are you doing?

Speaker 18 (01:18:20):
Right?

Speaker 8 (01:18:22):
That's a good one, or you might just be tired
and you have to work tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
Would you think, boys and girls, I liked it.

Speaker 27 (01:18:28):
I mean, the biggest win since the Super Bowl. That's
too much, Matt, No, I think that's probably spot on. Yeah, yeah,
been a lot of lean days.

Speaker 8 (01:18:36):
Yeah, exactly right at that stadium, Paul get his flowers
for the pick.

Speaker 3 (01:18:43):
I know the score wasn't for you, but he had
it on. But he did say, like Drake comes on
and has a drive at the end.

Speaker 16 (01:18:51):
Right.

Speaker 6 (01:18:53):
I did say that, but it really didn't unfold the
way I kind of envisioned that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
You picked.

Speaker 4 (01:18:59):
I did pick.

Speaker 3 (01:19:00):
That's that's big. That's big. You deserve the tip of
the cat.

Speaker 4 (01:19:03):
Freddy called in early Dan, do you take about too?

Speaker 10 (01:19:05):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:19:06):
Yeah, it's a little different for Fred since he picks
them every week.

Speaker 5 (01:19:11):
How do you feel about this one?

Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
Good win? Yeah, really good win. Mike.

Speaker 27 (01:19:15):
You said something in the pregame show, I wonder how
you feel about it post game, that this will be
there will be this game will be full of an overreaction. Yeah,
is the nation going to overreact?

Speaker 8 (01:19:27):
I mean I think yes, yes, for sure. I think
tomorrow will get a good, good overreaction. And they should
overreact a little bit as much as you should overreact
to any win or loss over the seventeen or eighteen
weeks of the NFL season.

Speaker 3 (01:19:40):
So I expect it to be. But I think deservedly so,
and you know it.

Speaker 8 (01:19:45):
But as variable I think said, it's not really going
to matter if they don't go down to New Orleans
next week and keep the train rolling. And and you
saw New Orleans pull out a win, suddenly everyone left
them for dead. Everyone left the Titans for dead. Both
those teams won this weekend. So I don't think all
the results in the NFL will tell you. Just because
you beat an undefeated team this week doesn't mean he
can't wait wait next week and lay a dud. So

(01:20:06):
but I just I think the bigger picture for me
is just what's being built here. And like I said,
the simple fact of Mike Rabel going down to Miami
and winning in Buffalo.

Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
I mean those are every year. Those are probably the
two hardest.

Speaker 8 (01:20:16):
Games on your schedule, you know, just at least division wise,
So get wins there. It's and for Drake, it's a
great building block for this team in year one of
this regime.

Speaker 27 (01:20:26):
And speaking of Mike Rabel, just a little bit inside,
as we're watching the press conferences coming down and waiting
for Mike, we're able to come to the podium, the
little interview room and little is the right.

Speaker 8 (01:20:36):
Word you use there called Buffalo, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 27 (01:20:39):
Very loud music, very loud music pounding between the door
before Rabel came out, a lot of yelling, a lot
of very happy players, understandably so. But let's hear from
coach Mike Rabel after the Patriots win today.

Speaker 28 (01:20:55):
Oh everybody helped us again the night and I think
just as you really got a performance from from Drake.
Really just continue to enjoy watching him grow and lead
this football team. And you know, it was good for
us to again we'd love to have a win by
two scores, but but being able to come back and execute,

(01:21:16):
uh in a critical situation, take the clock down, you know,
and win it on our terms. We were talking about
taking the next step, and we got off to a
really good start defensively and kind of just beat ourselves
a little bit from the details in the first half.
Offense came back when we needed them in the second half,
and defensively, you know, just it's a huge challenge, you know,

(01:21:41):
to defend them, and we got some stops. We didn't
get as many as we wanted to, but we got
enough to give ourselves a chance in the end. So
a lot of credit to everybody on defense and Zach
and his staff and everybody over there. When you can
see when he's building some confidence in his swing, it's
just it looks good. I don't I don't know much
about kicking other than it just looks like a good

(01:22:02):
driver when those pros hit it right down the middle.
There's some balance to it and there's some calmness. And
I think he's been working really hard, and to Tom
and Jeremy. They've been working hard with him as well
to maintain that consistency, that consistent swing, and I'm excited.

Speaker 14 (01:22:21):
I'm happy for him.

Speaker 28 (01:22:22):
We got to get this corrected, you know, we got
to get it corrected. But we also need everybody's skill set,
and we want to be we want to be aggressive,
but we don't want to be reckless. And you know,
you can't relax. You know, he can't be two three
four inches from the ground and and let him go
in there. And that's We'll just keep practicing it, We'll
keep repping it. But his credit, you know, he was

(01:22:47):
able to help us, you know, in the end, and
like a lot of other guys, so we got to
get it fixed because because we need his ability and
his skill set, but we can't put the ball on
the ground. Well, this is their day, this is it's up,
this is I mean, I'm happy for him. We challenge
them all week, we push them, we coach them, uh

(01:23:08):
you know, I mean whether they think I'm old during
the week or not, I don't know.

Speaker 10 (01:23:11):
But I'm going to try to coach.

Speaker 28 (01:23:13):
The heck out of them all week and try to
get them ready and the things that I think that
are important for us to do, try to get to
do them. And then they get to the game.

Speaker 3 (01:23:20):
It's their day.

Speaker 4 (01:23:21):
To go and put all that hard work out there.

Speaker 28 (01:23:23):
And I'm happy for him. I want to thank and
congratulate each and every one of them. Everybody has a role.
Everybody has a job, and those jobs are critical, whether
that's the trainer, the equipment manager, the assistant coach, offensive coordinator,
our starters, our special teams, players, our backups. It takes
everybody to come on a road, especially takes everybody to

(01:23:45):
win in this league. And I and I want to
thank them for that, and I like to see the
look on their faces.

Speaker 14 (01:23:51):
I'm happy for him.

Speaker 27 (01:23:53):
A week ago in the Patriots locker room after they
beat Carolina, he wasn't really full of the Carolina win.
He was already looking ahead to Buffalo. He was embracing
the Sunday night game. He was embracing a national audience.
He was embracing prime time and got his team ready
to play. That's off to Mike rabel a good job
in preparation and seizing the moment really for what this

(01:24:16):
opportunity was in this step in building the Patriots.

Speaker 8 (01:24:20):
Yeah, for sure. I mean a not an easy place
to play. We've seen many a Patriots team go up
there and struggle, even you know, times with Brady had
some tough ones. Usually they pulled those well out, even
if it didn't look.

Speaker 3 (01:24:30):
Great going on.

Speaker 8 (01:24:30):
But but yeah, you know, he pushed all the right buttons.
It seems like this week.

Speaker 6 (01:24:35):
Yeah, and that's why I asked Henry about it, just
what the team thought of. You know, most coaches are
just like, well, you know, it's the next one in
the schedule, and you know.

Speaker 4 (01:24:45):
He didn't. He just said, yeah, no, that's a big game.
You know, we're on national TV.

Speaker 6 (01:24:49):
It's going to an opportunity for us to show everybody
our identity, and you know it's a big opportunity for us.

Speaker 4 (01:24:54):
We're going to embrace it. So they did.

Speaker 5 (01:24:57):
Yeah, and I liked that they didn't hide it because
a lot of times team do pretend is just another game,
and that gets a little cliche, especially when you have
a team like this time.

Speaker 4 (01:25:05):
When you when it works.

Speaker 8 (01:25:06):
Yeah, I just love the Vraible doesn't care like Friday,
He's like, yep, Jare Wilson's gonna be back.

Speaker 29 (01:25:10):
You know, like yeah, yeah, you know, it's refreshing to
hear an adult right right, who's not gonna suffering in
to a mic and you know, Sorr belittling you.

Speaker 27 (01:25:23):
So that was a story from the head coach. Let's
go back inside the small interview room at high Mark Stadium,
to hear from the players, starting with the quarterback Drake
May just good.

Speaker 10 (01:25:34):
Thanks the good lord man. That was that was fun.

Speaker 14 (01:25:36):
That's a tough one.

Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
I took everybody in that locker room and the guys
came out and we battled. You didn't play the best
in the first half. The defense helped us out and
we came back offensively and got some things going and
two many drive of the end.

Speaker 10 (01:25:48):
Just go down and win it.

Speaker 8 (01:25:48):
That's what you want.

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
Every guy in that locker room contributed to the wins,
and I'm.

Speaker 10 (01:25:53):
Just so proud of our guys.

Speaker 26 (01:25:55):
Came in here with that feeling, worked all week, and
we're we were able to showcase.

Speaker 8 (01:26:00):
It tonight big one.

Speaker 5 (01:26:03):
You know, uh it's a divisional opponent and you know,
uh coming up the buff Buffalo is you know, it's
a hostile environment for sure.

Speaker 18 (01:26:10):
So glad that we got the dub.

Speaker 28 (01:26:12):
I mean really, I just truer like any other kick,
just went out there, you know, trusted that snapper's gonna
get their holes, is gonna be great.

Speaker 8 (01:26:20):
Everyone's gonna block in the front and ball m ball
goes in.

Speaker 20 (01:26:24):
Yeah, what a kick.

Speaker 1 (01:26:24):
You know, pressure ultimate pressure tell people all the time,
you know, other than quarterback. I think kickers got it.

Speaker 10 (01:26:29):
Uh, you got a lot on the line. So it's
sweet to see.

Speaker 17 (01:26:30):
What it was lit like, you know, Prime Time, I
played here before. I've been on the other side. Uh,
it was just electrifund and I knew that it was
gonna be a test for us, like obviously, uh, with
the guys that we got, and you know, you know,
we all.

Speaker 10 (01:26:44):
New to each other.

Speaker 17 (01:26:45):
I think nine new starters compared to eleven on offense.
So going into a hostile environment, and biggest thing is
just the fundamentals and being violent, you know what I'm saying, Like,
be the Aggressor's gonna be a hostile there. You know
that was It's a great football team, so trying to
take the fight to them.

Speaker 10 (01:27:00):
This is it's storybook.

Speaker 22 (01:27:02):
You knew.

Speaker 1 (01:27:02):
I thought she got the inzo only got caught. But uh,
you're coming back here, first game, prime Time.

Speaker 10 (01:27:07):
You know you can see it all week. You know,
he just uh he just lost football.

Speaker 4 (01:27:11):
You know, he loves the game and he's got a
lot of the tank left.

Speaker 10 (01:27:14):
So it's good. He's the patriot.

Speaker 5 (01:27:16):
I love his personality.

Speaker 6 (01:27:18):
When we started a game for Digs today, Digson Digson
May put the team on their back, right and won
the game.

Speaker 16 (01:27:28):
Right.

Speaker 8 (01:27:28):
Yeah, I mean that's it. I mean we were saying, Matt, like,
how long we've been saying you got to get them
at number one? You got to get them somebody who
can win consistently. And yeah, that's what you saw tonight.
What a difference.

Speaker 4 (01:27:37):
And how many times have people told you, yeah, it's overrated.
Brady didn't have that.

Speaker 6 (01:27:41):
No, you need you need someone that's going to be
able to go into that environment and embrace it and
thrive in it.

Speaker 4 (01:27:49):
And that's what he did tonight.

Speaker 6 (01:27:50):
And some of the throws that that May made in
the second half were just absurd, and they were great
throws and they were put in a situation where the
only God could catch it. But I don't think just
anybody catches some of those. No, you need a guy
with the kind of ability that Diggs has with the
footwork on the sideline and the hands.

Speaker 4 (01:28:09):
Catches. At least two or three of those on the
sideline were absurd catches. Two guys put the team on
their back in the second half and that was enough
to win.

Speaker 27 (01:28:19):
You've got to play by sheet, play by play sheet
up there, Paul, and not to take anything away from
Diggs because he was tremendous, as you said, Mike said,
and Quantie said, you know, Diggs kind of put the
team on his back. But on the final drive, was
it a rope to Booty that that was a heck
of a throw like in coverage.

Speaker 4 (01:28:37):
No, he wasn't really recovered. It was a good, good throw.

Speaker 27 (01:28:39):
There was a window there that Yeah, he got the
ball into. That was a really really has made a
good a really good point about it. The situational awareness
to just drop, catch it and drop and it forces
Buffalo to use the first time out that allows you
to kick the field goal and only have fifteen seconds
on the clock. So like you're not only you get

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to catch from from Booty on the sideline, but his
ability to get down this is yeah, I mean he's
open and no, I just.

Speaker 4 (01:29:09):
Love the drop to the knees.

Speaker 6 (01:29:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love it to put that ball
in body. Henry and Douglas all made big plays in
the game. Yes, And it's what Splaine said, you know
in the clip that you showed us with Spalain, you know,
everybody in the locker room had something to do with
that win. Yeah, there were two guys that were, you know,
absurdly good, but everybody contributed and the defense made some

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unbelievably timely play situational place to night. Again, I didn't
think it was great, but to hold that team to
twenty points.

Speaker 4 (01:29:38):
Is not easy.

Speaker 27 (01:29:39):
Carlton Davis against was it one of the tight ends
at the end? I saw some Buffalo people calling for
past interference.

Speaker 6 (01:29:47):
Oh it was Gonzales on Shakira in the last play. Yeah,
they never really showed a good angle from the backside
that you could see if he if he hit him early,
but they didn't call it so on a night.

Speaker 27 (01:29:59):
When they when everything that they whistle on that right,
that was kind of funny.

Speaker 3 (01:30:06):
What was a confidence level in the field goal kicker
boys and girls.

Speaker 6 (01:30:10):
I just think that those kicks are going to get
made to This is the play right here for for Gonzales.
You can't tell on this because it's happened so quick.
It's bang bang, But if this pass gets caught and
Shakira is open right here, if that's not knocked away
by Gonzalez, Buffalo has a chance to have the last

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possession of the game, and they're either going to score
a touchdown and walk it off or they're going to
kick a field goal and go to overtime. Yeah, so
that gets out those back to back plays by Gonzales.
The last two defensive plays of the game were as
big as any plays in the game.

Speaker 8 (01:30:45):
I mean that's and that's the Miami win to defense
kind of back against the wall, I mean, hanging on
by a thread, needing to make he plays like this.

Speaker 6 (01:30:54):
Yeah, I like this a lot better than that. This
was this was the defense made plays, not the other
team went backward. This was Buffalo is moving the ball, shooting.
And then they get down there and the Patriots came
up big and made two big plays and both of
them Allen had all day, so they had a cover
for a long time, huge, huge place.

Speaker 5 (01:31:15):
Would you say this was a sustainable at least from
what we've seen in this game, sustainable growth for the
defense moving forward or still work to be done?

Speaker 4 (01:31:24):
No, think I don't think there was.

Speaker 6 (01:31:26):
I'm not lost and you're not trying to be like
just like, let's forget about let's close our eyes and
not realize that Buffalo had eleven penalties and three turnovers
and that helped you get them to twenty points. But
you're not going to play an offense like Buffalo's every week.
So yes, I think the defensive performance is sustainable and.

Speaker 8 (01:31:44):
They get new pieces back to like I said that
over the last couple of weeks, you know, hopefully get
chased on back to give you that element.

Speaker 3 (01:31:51):
They've been lucky.

Speaker 8 (01:31:51):
They haven't had a lot of injuries.

Speaker 3 (01:31:53):
I mean that's been a bug. No, that's like Gibson
will see.

Speaker 8 (01:31:57):
I saw there's some footage of him standing up greeting
people outside the locker room.

Speaker 3 (01:32:00):
So I don't know that bodes well for us recovery
or not.

Speaker 8 (01:32:03):
I couldn't see if his leg was in a rap
or anything like that, but you know, it's it's it's
another part of it that you have to hold on
through some of the attrition.

Speaker 3 (01:32:11):
And you've seen other teams that are on their third
string quarterback right now.

Speaker 4 (01:32:14):
It sort of seems like it's the theme around the
league too, so kind of won attrition.

Speaker 3 (01:32:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they I mean they've been they've been
really lucky so far.

Speaker 8 (01:32:23):
But if they can stay healthy, you know, it's sometimes
that's just like one of the biggest factors in having
a successful season is like we just didn't catch the
injury bug that year. Some years you get absolutely destroyed
by it. I mean, you know, look at Baltimore right.

Speaker 6 (01:32:33):
Now, or any number of Chargers charge Offscinnati.

Speaker 8 (01:32:38):
Cincinnati's on their seasons again. Carson Wentz is limping in
the finish line, and you know, so sometimes that's the
way it goes. Other seasons you just kind of get lucky.
So who knows what it'll hold for the Patriots. But
right now they're pretty healthy and they can get Chase
on back there. They'll have all their defense finally at
full strength of the first time this season.

Speaker 5 (01:33:00):
All right, Well, we're gonna get to some calls. I'm
geting a lot of emails. I have to sift through
all of them. But before I do that, Pats fans,
it's Monday, but it's always a good time to stock
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for that in advance. But we have looked, like I said,

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a few calls coming in. We'll start with James in Salisbury. Hello, James,
Good morning, James, James fell asleep. Dames all right, call back,
James all right, Anthony's in Ontario.

Speaker 16 (01:33:40):
Hey guys, how's going tonight?

Speaker 8 (01:33:42):
Ay?

Speaker 21 (01:33:42):
Good, first time listener, longtime caller here. I just threw
real quick because I know you got a hurry.

Speaker 7 (01:33:49):
We'll be back, Thank you.

Speaker 13 (01:33:51):
Guys back.

Speaker 5 (01:33:54):
I think he said we'll be back and I just
lost my mouse.

Speaker 8 (01:33:58):
Was that?

Speaker 5 (01:33:58):
I think it was a message that will be back.
I'm just gonna say that's I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:34:02):
Know that was good.

Speaker 4 (01:34:05):
Oh did you say? Are we back back?

Speaker 5 (01:34:09):
Oh my gosh, I gotta get I'm gonna blame this.

Speaker 3 (01:34:11):
Are we back? Are we back back? Where?

Speaker 7 (01:34:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:34:17):
How about relevance? Yes, yes, yes, agreed. Yeah, but you
know you thought you.

Speaker 8 (01:34:23):
Were relevant pretty twenty twenty one too. They were, and
then you weren't, and then they weren't. But I think
this is a lot more promising in terms of the
way that they're doing it. And you know, I think
the whole time in twenty twenty one, when you felt
like they had a little wind streak going there as
some positive vibes, it felt.

Speaker 3 (01:34:40):
A little bit like smoking mirrors.

Speaker 8 (01:34:42):
And you know, you're getting some quality matchups against different
quarterbacks that aren't exactly Josh Allen like it was today,
and you know, just the talent of May and Diggs.

Speaker 3 (01:34:50):
I mean, let's face it, that's what you've been clamoring for.
To have a quarterback who.

Speaker 8 (01:34:55):
Has six foot five, has the size, has the strength,
has the arm as the athletic mobility, and you know,
now you're seeing him start to grasp a system and
really have an understanding of an offensive coordinator and how
they're trying to attack teams.

Speaker 3 (01:35:09):
And each time they play a game like.

Speaker 8 (01:35:11):
This, they get more experience together, they learn some things,
they maybe throw throw some things out, they look for
some other things to bring in. So hopefully this process
will just continue to get you know, better with Drake
and Josh McDaniels. And I'm really excited to see, you know,
where it's gonna go, especially if they can get some
other guys involved too, because I think that's something they're
gonna have to be able to develop as a counter
punch if a team does, say, like you know, Patrick's

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retain on Diggs, you know, there's some kind of matchup
where you're like, it's gonna be tough sled and they
got a good corner. We're gonna have to have more
than two or three catches from your second, third, fourth receivers.

Speaker 27 (01:35:44):
Well, I don't want to channel my inner Paul Perillo,
but the next three weeks are Spencer Rattler, Rookie Kim Ward,
Dylan Gabriel.

Speaker 3 (01:35:52):
That is that the next three weeks? Yep, So it's
not Josh Allen.

Speaker 4 (01:35:56):
I mean you have to win two of those three minimum.

Speaker 6 (01:35:58):
You know, if you want to be a playoff team,
you probably have to win all three, right, if you
want to make the playoffs, you really should win all three.

Speaker 4 (01:36:06):
But ye, two out of three at absolute minimum.

Speaker 8 (01:36:09):
Yeah, and then you know, and then you you got Atlanta.
I mean that's you know, got to be a tight game.

Speaker 4 (01:36:14):
But still, I mean, people are sleeping on the falcons
Tampa Bay, though people are sleeping on the bottom.

Speaker 3 (01:36:19):
I don't know if people are sleeping on them.

Speaker 4 (01:36:21):
Anyway, Well, we're going to be eight and two in November,
according to college described callers and callers.

Speaker 3 (01:36:32):
I mean, really, when you look.

Speaker 8 (01:36:33):
At it right now, I would say Atlanta at Tampa
Bay and Buffalo and we can talk about maybe at Baltimore,
but who knows what they're going to even look like.
I mean, that's you know, three good, good, good probably
playoff contending teams left right now. Otherwise it's a whole
lot of the Jets in Cincinnati and the teams you
guys mentioned.

Speaker 4 (01:36:51):
Yeah, I'm just not willing to put all those games
in the wind column.

Speaker 6 (01:36:55):
I'm willing to put New Orleans and Tennessee in the
wind call, but I'm not willing to put like two
Jets Cincinnati, Like, I don't know what those teams are
going to like, those teams have talent.

Speaker 27 (01:37:06):
As much as I think Mike did a great job
in embracing the moment and getting his team ready for
prime time in Buffalo on Sunday Night, I think he
has equally as big of a challenge coming up this
week with the uphouri over the win in Buffalo on
Sunday night on prime Time, they're one o'clock on a
dregs matchup against a New Orleans Saint team that just came.

Speaker 3 (01:37:28):
Off their first win. They got to bring the same
energy to New Orleans.

Speaker 27 (01:37:31):
And this is a you know, it's it's just so cliche,
but it's a classic setup, you know, going down in
New Orleans. They got to they got to figure out
a way to go down there. And somehow, you know,
score more points than the same.

Speaker 3 (01:37:42):
I mean I kind of like it, Like I kind
of like having to go to New Orleans, which is
going to be another good atmosphere, meaning but you're in
tennesseeing on the wall or.

Speaker 8 (01:37:50):
Sing on the walls, staying on the road, yep, you know,
not feeling like, oh, we have some cupcake coming to town.
Like I just think you don't take any team on
the road as lightly as you would take in a team.

Speaker 4 (01:37:59):
I would agree with that. And plus, these two teams
are just not good enough to beat you even if
you don't show up.

Speaker 8 (01:38:04):
I'd also say that, you know, I think the players
will understand there's a little more on the line for
Mike Frable and Tennessee and you'll probably get a little.

Speaker 4 (01:38:12):
Yeah, another good play.

Speaker 3 (01:38:13):
I think Tennessee.

Speaker 27 (01:38:14):
They're gonna they're gonna be focused on Tennessee, no question about.
It's a New Orleans game coming up that you know,
they got to remain that this will hit.

Speaker 8 (01:38:21):
We'll hit the Mardi Gras the night before, we're we're
going to the super Bowl.

Speaker 5 (01:38:28):
The mentality they went into the day today's game with
they should have a chip on their shoulder for every
single one moving forward, because clearly that worked well.

Speaker 8 (01:38:35):
And you know, I just like, even at the height
of the Dynasty, Mike Rabel was that guy like he
just always had an edge and a chip on his shoulder,
and you know, not to the extreme level that Rodney
Harrison was always saying no one believed in us. But
you know, I just I remember as a fan watching
a guy like Mike Vrabel playing. You're just like, we're
gonna be in this game today because I know that
guy ain't gonna take any plays off. And I think
if he's able to inject that into his own team,

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that you'll have a team that can hopefully.

Speaker 3 (01:38:59):
Not have those kind of brain farts. I mean, I'd
be curious.

Speaker 8 (01:39:01):
Paul had some great numbers this week about Brabel's team's
performance against when they're underdogs.

Speaker 6 (01:39:07):
Yeah, make them five and four as a seven and
a half as a seven or more point underdog.

Speaker 8 (01:39:12):
You know what is what I'd be curious, what does
it look like as a seven and a half point favorite,
you know, like, what his teams tend to continue to
deliver and not underperform against the team that they're heavily
favored for. I might bet, yes, I don't know what
the numbers are, but I feel pretty good about They're
not going to take New Orleans lightly, especially with New
Orleans getting their first win, so it's easy to help.

Speaker 3 (01:39:31):
Like that helps, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:39:33):
I do think that they're they're due for I'm with Matt,
I mean they do for a letdown. I just don't
think New Orleans has enough to beat you, unless you
really really.

Speaker 3 (01:39:42):
Like giants turned it over five times today, right.

Speaker 4 (01:39:45):
Yeah, like in five consecutive possessions.

Speaker 3 (01:39:48):
Right, that's not good. Scoop and score on one of
them went out there.

Speaker 4 (01:39:51):
Right, you do that stuff. You can lose, correct, You
can lose to any.

Speaker 3 (01:39:56):
Are Are they going to be a favorite in New
Orleans THEA okay, oh good question.

Speaker 6 (01:40:01):
Yeah, oh yeah, they're definitely. I mean New Orleans is
the worst team in football. They're going to be favored
in this game.

Speaker 4 (01:40:08):
You have to win this game. You have to beat
those teams. Like Cleveland has.

Speaker 6 (01:40:14):
A hot like a highly talented defense, it doesn't have
everything else. That's why I don't just pencil and win
win win win for all these teams, because some teams,
but right now Tennessee and New Owlens do not have
a lot of NFL players Cleveland does. Now, they're almost

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all on the defensive side, and it's hard to win
that way. Like they had a game today, they had
every opportunity to win, and they just fell a little
shorty get up the touchdown on the last drive and
twenty five seconds left, they lose a game.

Speaker 3 (01:40:46):
That Kid Ward could cover, Ride Diggs couldn't.

Speaker 6 (01:40:49):
Yeah, oh no, they plus Miles Garrett can yes in
the backfield like that. They That's why I don't just say,
you know, win When do I think they'll be clear
one right now?

Speaker 7 (01:41:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:41:01):
I do.

Speaker 4 (01:41:02):
But that's a good defense.

Speaker 10 (01:41:04):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:41:04):
You don't show up to play against that defense and
they can shut you down.

Speaker 10 (01:41:09):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:41:09):
It's a lot better defense than the one that held
you to twenty three tonight.

Speaker 27 (01:41:12):
I'm interested, Paul, to hear you saw coming out of
a break Collinsworth seemed pretty giddy about Will Campbell, and.

Speaker 3 (01:41:19):
I wanted to know what you thought.

Speaker 6 (01:41:20):
Oh, I didn't like anything about the offensive line in
that game tonight. I thought Drake May ran for his life.

Speaker 13 (01:41:29):
All right.

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Speaker 8 (01:41:59):
Just a little you're gonna do that.

Speaker 3 (01:42:01):
Yeah, I moved alawn yesterday, thank you.

Speaker 8 (01:42:09):
Just to just to share some drinking contexts for Paul
not like the offensive line, Morgan Moses and Will Campbell
led the way, allowing three pressures each. Moses had a sack,
Campbell was credited with half a sacked. Jar Wilson had
two pressures and a half a sack.

Speaker 3 (01:42:25):
Michael one, you just one.

Speaker 8 (01:42:26):
Pressure and like Garret brad Brary, they gave him a
clean from what next was a rough day?

Speaker 3 (01:42:32):
So three three pressures eats off off the edges.

Speaker 4 (01:42:36):
Yeah, not not great stock in next gen a little different.

Speaker 3 (01:42:41):
Cyrus horns though, who apparently gave up five?

Speaker 4 (01:42:45):
Who did?

Speaker 8 (01:42:46):
Cyrus credited with five pressures. Wow, that's a lot that
Dean Dawkins had one nice a little advanced stats there.

Speaker 3 (01:42:58):
I like that.

Speaker 4 (01:42:59):
I just felt like every blitz they dialed up got
home and Drake just beat it by being a better
athlete and running to the sideline and throwing dimes on
the sidelines to Diggs.

Speaker 3 (01:43:11):
I was trying to block him, but I couldn't get there,
as will.

Speaker 5 (01:43:19):
All right, Well, the show's winding down. Obviously, we talked
about so much that teld me to wrap any final
words from the three of you.

Speaker 8 (01:43:25):
No, I mean, uh, it's really late in the morning,
early in the morning. A great win, you know, congratulations
to Mike Ribble and his team. You know, as we said,
I'm not penciling and wins. I'm not looking at December.
I'm just looking next week at the Saints. Try to
keep it rolling, keep building this team and and you know,
continue to climb their way out of the last four years.

Speaker 6 (01:43:42):
Thanks for making my prediction look good statement. I was
sort of snickered at when I made that pick.

Speaker 5 (01:43:49):
That's what teammates afore.

Speaker 3 (01:43:50):
I would never snick.

Speaker 10 (01:43:51):
You didn't.

Speaker 6 (01:43:52):
I didn't, you didn't snicker. You had my snickers that's
my thing. But I did get you did do a
double take. When we did the TV show last Monday,
we picked him, Well.

Speaker 8 (01:44:02):
Who are you gonna pick in six hours? And we
have to shoot that.

Speaker 4 (01:44:07):
Access crew? Definitely as when I.

Speaker 3 (01:44:12):
Think reshrieked, didn't he just the chance we might see
that again this week?

Speaker 6 (01:44:18):
I thought that I thought the Patriots were in a
good spot to play a competitive game. I'm telling you,
I knew they were going to win, like one hundred
I didn't, but I thought they should have every opportunity
to win that game.

Speaker 14 (01:44:30):
Tonight that reason.

Speaker 5 (01:44:33):
Oh man, all right, Well that does it for the
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