Patriots Postgame Show 11/14: Full Breakdown of Patriots Win vs. Jets

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Twenty seven fourteen. The final score here in Foxborough. Paul Parrello,
Mike d So, I'm Quantie Lunas, thank you for sticking
with us. I know it's a little late, but it's
gonna be a fun one here because you got a victory.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Yeah, you guys, there we go.

Speaker 8 (01:02):
I feel like it was kind of exactly what we
thought it was going to be. Maybe the score was
slightly different. I think I said like twenty four to
twenty three six. Well where we were at Paul the
Jets to get two scores.

Speaker 5 (01:12):
Instead of field goals, you know, just yeah, I mean,
it wasn't I felt like this was going to be
a game that the Patriots had control of, but it
wasn't never really going to look great, And I think
we kind of got a gain that the Patriots were
in control of that didn't really look great.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:28):
Yeah, it's true. They had, you know, some moments and
they had to come through and some big plays. You know,
the defense did what they do. They came out and
watched to just go right down the field. But you know,
just again, Drake May, my expectations on a Thursday night
were not perfection or you know great. I just thought
he did what he had to do. He made the
plays he had to make. It wasn't, you know, a

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flawless win by any means, But on a short week,
just to get to nine wins, I mean, I think
that ensures that this team.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
I know that it ensures this team will have a
winning record this season.

Speaker 8 (01:58):
I know the goals are a lot higher, but when
we talked about coming into this year, everyone wants to
know what your prediction is. I think the team just
deserves the tip of the cap to reel off eight
straight wins after starting one to two on the season,
and I don't know if anyone saw that coming in.
You know, credit to the coaching staff, to Drake May.
Great strides made and now I think they really have
big things ahead of them, and they deserve to because

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they played really, really well here and just good complimentary football,
didn't let the mistakes bog them down, did enough to
pull away and get.

Speaker 7 (02:26):
The victory exactly eight in a row. Like you mentioned,
what do you two think says about I mean, we
talked about mental stamina, the way they're able to regroup weekly,
week by week. At this point, what does this say
to you guys?

Speaker 3 (02:37):
As Yeah, they're I mean, they're reproducing. It's not easy
to do.

Speaker 8 (02:40):
And I mean, I you know, I know, the last
couple of years you realize how hard it is to
win in this league, and you know, just now it's
completely changed. I mean again, Paul, we see third and
longs get converted. You know that was a death sentence
to the Patriots, seems the last couple of years. So yeah,
the consistency finding ways to do it weekend, week out,
not making the critical, big mistakes. You know, this is

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this is a real football team now, and I think
they showed it again tonight here on a short week.
These games are always weird divisional games, but they did
what they had to do.

Speaker 5 (03:10):
Yeah, that's pretty much signs it up. I mean, I
I there were a lot of things that if this
game weren't a vacuum, that you'd say, okay, and we're
going to talk about them over the next you know,
you know, whatever hour and a half or so our
forty five minutes, someone say hour and a half. Yeah, yeah,
there were there were things that certainly I think Mike

(03:31):
Rabel will be able to show the team and uh
and go over. It was not perfect, but your quarterback
is pretty much pretty close to perfect right now. I
really like the way he looked in the pocket tonight.
I thought he was really calm in the pocket, quiet
with his feet, and had his eyes downfield all night.

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So I liked some of the things that he did.
They got to they got some work to do offensively
to maximize some of their opportunities. And defensively, you know
that there was some issues tonight defensively. You know, we'll
get into it as we as we break it all down.

(04:13):
But this is kind of what we we had asked for.
Just don't mess around, don't turn the ball over, don't
give any free points away, don't make it easy on
a on an underdog. And you know, they checked off
all those boxes this game. In my view, it was
never over over until that last fourth down, drop drop

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pass by the Jets. But I never really felt this
game was in doubt at all ever, even when they
went down seven nothing obviously we've seen that a million
times before that at this point. I never I never
saw I never thought this game was in doubt. I
mean in terms of like nods and everything. You know,
I'm inundated with people. You know, Christian, you know I

(04:55):
will come and find you. Chris, Chris with a T
I a n making an ai Uh, Polly Paul, that's
that's not that's not cool. There was no nod tonight,
per se. But I never felt like this game was
in jeopardy. Yeah, does that make sense? It does? It does?

Speaker 8 (05:08):
I think I'm just usually kind of generally on edge,
and that's probably because I'm working during it.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
You know, you're like, oh God, am I gonna have
to blow this up? And you know the Jets put a.

Speaker 5 (05:16):
Couple drives together, because you're right. I mean, if they
if the guy catches the fourth down pass, you know
it's you can get a touch again, get a touchdown.
They had three timeouts, they wouldn't even have had to
onside kick. If they didn't want to, they probably would have,
but you know, it's twenty seven to twenty one and
who knows. So like, I don't think the game was
necessarily over. I just never felt like the Patriots were threatened.

(05:37):
Certainly not in the second half.

Speaker 8 (05:39):
No, no, not after that that first drive down the
field and I thought, look, is this gonna be the game?
Kind of we talked about it before. You'll know it
pretty quick if they came out flat. Turns out they
weren't flat. They were just the same old Patriots defense
that allows the first touchdown drive. That's what that's just
what they do. It definitely is still bugging me though
it keeps. But at the same time turned it around

(05:59):
for a bunch of three and outs and you could
tell that they were starting to roll and just felt
like a matter of time before.

Speaker 5 (06:05):
I should think now that we're pretty good on third Downtown.

Speaker 8 (06:09):
They were very good on third down tonight. That's a
that's a fair point. I think that's coming up later
in the eventually, not.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
In the goods stick around.

Speaker 4 (06:17):
All right.

Speaker 7 (06:18):
That being said, let's get to the good, the bad,
and the injured.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Now it's time for the good, good, the bad, and
the injured.

Speaker 5 (06:30):
Ah, you are right guy, all right, it's time.

Speaker 7 (06:38):
Let's start with the good not to talk about.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
You want to kick it off, ye, I'll kick it off.

Speaker 8 (06:42):
I'm gonna I'm gonna put Drake up up there.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
I answer, go first, No, I got it. I just
I just continue to be impressed by the kid. And
I mean it's just.

Speaker 8 (06:52):
Every week he's making a throw that you're like, oh
my god. I mean that, I mean maybe his best
strow of the night was dropped. I mean Mike Holnton,
the one that Matt Collins down the field, that vertical
I mean, this is like, you know, it was like
sixty to seventy yards in the air. Just drop him
back here. It is a video, just absolutely uncorked one.
And credit the Jets defensive back there for you know,
getting a punch by.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
The defensive backs got to get caught, yeah, yeah, to
be caught.

Speaker 8 (07:17):
Usually those are ones Matt Collins comes down with but
we'll give him a pass. But you know, Drake, it's
just looking at some of the chunk plays that's to me, like,
let's just highlight those for a minute, because when I
said the old Patriots teams in the last couple of years,
they get into third and seven or more and it's like, oh,
that's over, it's over. But the big throws that he had,
I mean, it's just on third down, seventeen yarder. Uh,

(07:39):
you know to Mac Collins, I'm sorry that was not
a third down pass, but you know, just the chunk
place that they're able to get. I thought on that
second drive too, I mean, you know, a twenty three
yard it Hunter Henry, then a twelve.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
Yard at Hunter Henry on third down.

Speaker 8 (07:51):
Uh, just continues to pick up new sets of downs
when it in the past few years it looks dead,
and you know, we're seeing just continued excellence. He looked
really comfortable to me tonight, you know, and I think
the overall trajectory of Drake has just been really impressive,
where there have been a couple games over the last

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handful or so where you felt like it's a little
sped up, felt like he's maybe getting out of the
pocket a little bit. Tonight, it just felt like he
was coom call, cool, calm and collected making all the throws.
And this is you know, what we've seen for the
majority of this year with Drake May is just you know,
nothing that really seems to rattle him. He's he's got
a really calm presence about him, and he's making delivering

(08:32):
throws when he has to deliver them. So you know, really,
just when I look at Drake and how he's playing now,
I just have such confidence with the Patriots. I'm like,
you know, that's where Paul I still get nervous. But
I when I watched Jake, I'm like, man, it just
seems like a matter of time before he's going to
make these plays down the field. So Drake May, you know,
up on the on the good list, and you know
what a first eleven games of the season for that

(08:52):
kid in the second year just super impressive.

Speaker 5 (08:55):
And I thought he was really impressive just with his
like I said, how quiet he was, in the pocket,
under control with his movements, and obviously you know, the
accuracy was there again, so he yeah, absolutely, he was
very impressive.

Speaker 7 (09:11):
Tonight in that same vein stuff on Digs top of
well not the top of the list, but at the
top of the list. Overall over one hundred yards in
this one, eleven targets nine for one oh five yards.
Just overall great performance. And I have to add a
little note to this. We're in the media press box
and we find out that Cardi B has had a baby,

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and in the moment, I'm like, she and labor right now,
like this is insane. Turns out TMZ decided to drop
the story. Well, Cardi B decided to post during the
game that they had the baby last week. So just
tying it all together, it was very impressive. He had
a baby last week. This is probably new to some people.
But of course, you know, having a great game on
the field as well. But I had to tie in

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the pop culture.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Aspect for everyone. Yeah, exact graduation.

Speaker 7 (09:55):
Congratulations to the Digs and Gardi B.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
But he continues to be the guy on reliable in
his route running.

Speaker 5 (10:02):
Must have been you know, and I didn't watch it
every replay, but he was so open tonight. He must
have really run some some good, good routes. But yeah,
I absolutely quiet hundred yard game. Yeah, but I didn't
feel like like it didn't seem like I mean, the
longest catch was twenty two yards. It wasn't like he uh,
but I think he had a lot of sort of
fifteen to twenty twenty, you know, twenty two yards he was. Yeah,

(10:24):
he was very productive once again.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah, and invaluable.

Speaker 5 (10:28):
Uh yeah, you know. So I obviously I had both
of those on my list, but I'm going to go
to Will Campbell and Morgan Moses, who I thought both
on the edges tonight. The Jets have nothing defensively, but
what they do have is two pretty solid edge rushers
and Will McDonald and Jermaine Johnson, and I thought both

(10:48):
Campbell and Morgan Moses were were excellent and there was
very little edge pressure. I think Johnson had a sack,
but it was actually Hunter Henry that he beat on
that sack. It was very little. I didn't even think pressure.
I mean, there might have been a time or two
that those edges got through, but I thought this may

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have been Will Campbell's best game in pass protection, and
I thought Morgan Moses was. Everybody is good on the
other side, so I give again those two edge rushers
are pretty good players. Like the Jets lost a lot
on defense, but they still have that edge pressure. They
didn't blitz. They wanted to do the same thing that
Todd Bowles did last week, and to an extent it
worked because I kind of kept the score down a

(11:31):
little bit. But those those guys were not a factor.
So Campbell and Moses were on my good list. Yeah, welcome,
we have Drake May, Stefan Diggs and I just credited
the tackles on the good list.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
What did you guys have?

Speaker 6 (11:49):
Diggs?

Speaker 7 (11:50):
Henderson of course on that list as well. We'll get
into him second, but.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
Okay, I mean I would put Tonga up there. I
think he played decently. It's it was a weird game.
It's one of those division games. Yeah, you know, like
what's I know you're gonna laugh, You're I know you're
gonna laugh at me, Paul. But the Jets were angling
their kickoffs to the right, trying to see if Chisholm

(12:15):
would screw up.

Speaker 9 (12:16):
He didn't.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
He just took the ball up, you know, and and
got his nose up field.

Speaker 5 (12:20):
And you don't want me to say the things that
you say during games, right, you get mad at me
when I won't.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
I said, you know, he doesn't have a lot of
good instincts, uh, you know, to like find gaps. But
like I said, he just got his.

Speaker 5 (12:35):
Being serious the good list.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
He just got his nose up the field. That's all
he did. And he didn't screw up.

Speaker 7 (12:40):
He came into early.

Speaker 5 (12:42):
Do you seriously have anything on the good List other.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
Than digs at May and.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Campbell?

Speaker 6 (12:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (12:49):
I had three times.

Speaker 5 (12:51):
Yeah, I mean, oh you weren't.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
Yeah. I don't want answer.

Speaker 5 (12:55):
That sound like you're like me, he's got to be
on the list because you're scoring three times.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
Somebody, somebody has scored the somebody had to score them then,
you know when they get that close, not that they
did that all the time.

Speaker 5 (13:05):
I agree with your fred, you know, and he's certainly.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
I think the only I think, I think the only
superstar in the game was Drake May. Some of those
plays he made were just MVP caliber. Diggs was was
was consistent and you know, a good outlet for him,
and you know, third down he was the guy. But

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in terms of like, you know, really playmaking, and it
was Drake May. It was Drake May.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
I agree. I put him right up at the top.

Speaker 8 (13:38):
And part of me, for some reason just keeps waiting
for like, oh, maybe he's going to have a bad game,
or maybe we're going to see a little bit of
the inconsistency we saw last year when he was a rookie,
and it just doesn't happen.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
I mean, he hasn't been last week.

Speaker 8 (13:51):
That's like a couple of plays, a little blip, and
then he bounces back and it's just, uh, it's just
so fun to watch.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
I mean, the kid is just exciting every week.

Speaker 8 (13:59):
It's you know, when I was coming in today, I
was like, all right, another drink game, Let's see what
this kid's got.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
I mean, it's just you feel the moment.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
I mean, to me, the most amazing play he had
was the one where he went to the sideline and
he was like an inch from going out, but he
kept his eyes downfield. A lot of players would just
be like, all right, I'm going to go out and
gets that ball downfield. It ended up being on a
twenty three yard pass or something like that. I forget
what it was, but just keeping those eyes downfield, never

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giving up on the play, yet remaining safe.

Speaker 5 (14:33):
You know, Evan's not here, So I'm going to feel
comfortable saying this because I feel like I'm going to
save space with you guys. I was really happy to
see how he played tonight because I don't think the
last two were yeah, quite as good as like the
previous six.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Yeah ish, yep, you know.

Speaker 5 (14:47):
And I thought he was you know, I was a
little worried, like, is he starting to trend down a
little bit? Are they starting to figure him out a
little bit? You know? So this was I thought this
was a good sort of bounce back for him, you know.
And it's nice that he's bouncing back from a pretty
high level. It's not bouncing back from a fifty four
yard passing day like Justin Fields had last week.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
Yeah, yeah, you know. And okay, we haven't got to
the bat go ahead, you.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Throw it up by group here, so I had.

Speaker 5 (15:22):
So we've talked about Henderson and I would put just
specifically the goal to goal runs. I thought on the
first one, the offensive line basically picked him up and
carried him into the end zone, which is really good toughness,
good physicality, good finish. In the second one, they just
blew a hole open git that I could have run
through a win who comes around on the poll. I

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think Ben Brown was a was an eligible on the
second one and he wrecked his guy. So I just wrote,
like the goal to goal offensive line performance. Now, I
don't think they ran the ball very well other than
those goal to go runs. The two seven yard touchdown
runs were basically the highlight of the night for the
running game. So Henderson three touchdowns certainly on the good list,

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and I just thought specific mention of those goal to go.

Speaker 8 (16:08):
Runs, yeah, I like it. Another one I just want
to highlight was just ball security. We had three straight
games Drake had had a turnover. Came into this game saying,
you just got to play clean tonight, you know, you
just you can't beat yourself. And I thought this was
a great night to not have a turnover, to be
safe with the ball. You know, even the sacks that
he took, it wasn't too hairy, you know, he went down.

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I like that, Live to fight another day. But I
just think if you ever needed a night without turnovers,
this was it.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
They got rid of them, right, you know.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
I mean that's how you lose to the Jets.

Speaker 5 (16:39):
And I would just throw into that two penalties in
the whole game. So Thursday night, you're afraid of being
sloppy and tired, and you weren't well, you might.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
Have been a little I mean, the execution wasn't you
know that great, especially on defense. But they got out
of it. They got out of the game, you know.
And like again, everybody knows I do that blog and
I hear what and I see what everyone's feeling because
they're writing it down on the hundreds of comments, and
you know, people like this is embarrassing. How can they

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let the Jets be close? Blah blah blah, and listen,
I thought it'd be a blowout, but I'm not surprised
it was close. This is what happens that the Bills.
The Bills got blown out by Miami last week. I mean, this,
it happens, especially with division games, especially on Thursday night.
You ended up getting a thirteen point win. Be happy

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with that, Be happy with that.

Speaker 8 (17:36):
Yeah, I thought, I mean, I thought Paul described it well.
It was you never felt like the game was really
in question, But it was.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Never like all right, it's over.

Speaker 5 (17:43):
Like I never gave the nod until the guy dropped
the fourth down pass. Yeah, like, so that's not really
a nod when there's right left in the game, you know,
But I never felt threatened.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
All right, threatened.

Speaker 7 (17:54):
We have Christian Gozalees live with us. Congratulations right after
the wind.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
What's up, Christian?

Speaker 6 (18:02):
What's going on?

Speaker 7 (18:04):
Good question, right off the top. Short week, quick turnaround,
obviously important game either way because of a division rival.
How does it feel to get this one?

Speaker 6 (18:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (18:13):
It was a good one.

Speaker 10 (18:15):
Short weeks are hard, and the division game is always
going to be, you know, a fight regardless no matter
what what two teams. You know, it's the NFL. It's
hard to get wins in the NFL. So you know,
just coming in out, coming out and putting the work
in and earning this win.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
What's it like preparing for a Thursday night game because
it is such a quick turnaround.

Speaker 10 (18:39):
Yeah, I mean it's it's hard. Uh, just you know,
everything's so sped up. Just you you gotta watch a
lot of more film because you're really not out there
doing as much as far as practice, so you kind
of you gotta lock in more mentally, more than you

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already do for normal week. So just to speed and
and you gotta win recovery. You gotta get recovered faster
and and and do things to have your body ready
and your mind ready to go on Thursday.

Speaker 8 (19:13):
Christian, I know is still a waste to go, but
you know, you guys want eight games the last two
years combined, you now got nine wins in this season.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
You're sure to winning record.

Speaker 8 (19:20):
What can you say about getting to nine wins at
this point in the season.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
Yeah, win, It's hard in this league.

Speaker 10 (19:27):
Every team is talented, and you know, it's it's just
something we've talked about since. You know, Ota is when
when Rays came in and first team meeting. You know,
he said, we want to go out and win games
and and be and have a winning culture. So just
doing that and and and stacking and you know, just
come in to work every day and getting better. So

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you know, it's nice. But one thing I AP preached,
nobody in this locker room is satisfied. So you know,
we're hungry for more and just want to keep going.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
Christian, what kind of test was it to have just
and Fields as a runner as often as he was
to Night eleven carries a lot of those by design?
What kind of wrinkle was that? And you know, how
do you feel like you guys adjusted to that?

Speaker 11 (20:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (20:11):
He did.

Speaker 10 (20:12):
He did a great job being able to you know,
extend plays and and make plays with with his legs,
you know, designed and scrambles and you know that's that's
you know, credit to him because that's that's hard to do.
That's hard to defend as as a whole defense, not
just the back end, but the front seven. You know,

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it makes plays longer. And you know he's he's a
real talented player and he can he can change the
game with with with his legs. So you gotta be
on it. And you know we're able to get out
of get out of here with him win.

Speaker 8 (20:45):
Well, yeah, I got one more for you, Christian, not
to look not to get at past this win yet,
but Jamar Chase T. Higgins really good receiving corps coming
up next week. What have you seen from those guys?

Speaker 10 (20:56):
Oh yeah, for sure, amazing receivers. Body I think in
the world knows what they can do. So you know,
we we were gonna enjoy this one tonight and then
tomorrow it's onto the Bengals and Cincinnati. Just you know,
getting ready and.

Speaker 6 (21:14):
You know we got some extra days to get some.

Speaker 10 (21:15):
Extra film in, so uh, you know, enjoy this one
and there will be a fun matchup and in a
couple of days.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
We'll get the film in, but get some resting too.

Speaker 12 (21:25):
Enjoy.

Speaker 5 (21:27):
Tells me, you guys are going to enjoy those ten
days off.

Speaker 10 (21:30):
Yeah, I'm gonna enjoy sleeping in for for once.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
Congratulates Christian.

Speaker 6 (21:35):
Christian all right.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
Onto Cincinnati. He's pretty chill with us.

Speaker 5 (21:41):
Well, that's and it was funny she was talking. You know,
Chris is playing highlights of some of the plays that
he was involved in. And there was a deep ball
that Mitchell got behind him on earning the game, a
little double move caught him a little flat footed. But
just watching Gonzales.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
Run out after him make up speed, well he I mean.

Speaker 5 (22:03):
The guy dropped the pass. But I'm just watching him,
watch him run, Watch how calmly he's running. Yeah, it's
like there's just sticking with such a like a fluid
motion to everything that he does. Now, I'm not going
to try to paint this picture as like a highlight
reel play for Christian Gonzales, like this ball hits Mitchell

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right in the hands and it's got to be caught
and it's not. But I just was struck with how
there's no panic in his game ever. Ever, He's just
so smooth.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
Now It's good. They're gonna need him.

Speaker 8 (22:36):
That's why, I mean, I hated to turn the page
quick to Cincinnati. But you know, next week him against
Jamar Chase T Higgins, it's going.

Speaker 5 (22:43):
To be a great As Eldred watched this game, he's
a big ad Mitchell fan.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
I'm not a fan of him anymore.

Speaker 8 (22:51):
Receiving performance I've ever seen. I mean, I like it, Freddy,
that could have been your PFW cover this.

Speaker 5 (23:01):
Yeah, all drops, Mitchell targets one catch.

Speaker 7 (23:08):
But Christian Gondals was on my list. I don't think
his numbers really gave him justice when you look at
the performance that he had on this game. But he
was on my list before we interviewed him for the record. Okay,
A right, continue our good list. I'll show you.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
I don't know what.

Speaker 5 (23:26):
I don't know anything else, so all right, I have
I had Hunter Henry early in the game. I thought,
just this regular, reliable self, one of those third down
catches with a guy right on him, draped all over him. Uh,
he's able to you know, make make the guy you know,
fight through the contact and and pick up the first down.

(23:47):
You know again, you know the other team scores and
you like you slip up, you know, all of a
sudden you have a chance to be behind. So I
thought early on, you know, his numbers weren't great. I
mean four catches forty five yards, and I would say
the same kind of from Mac Hollins. And I would
say Henry more than Hollins because of that missed opportunity

(24:08):
on the deep ball late in the game. But I
had both of those guys on my good list. I
thought they showed up and made some place.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
Let's start by Hunter Henry there on that second drive especially.

Speaker 8 (24:16):
Yeah, he's just I mean I feel like that about
kind of all their receivers right now.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
It's like, you know, hard to say one that I
was talking about.

Speaker 8 (24:22):
They're all on the good list, but they continue to
just have guys step up in moments when they need them.
Pop Douglas makes a play under Henry. You know, it's
not again, You're not gonna go around. Oh he had
ten catches, you know it maybe three four catches. But
at the same time, it's timely. He is confident and
trusts all these guys in key situations, and you know,
it's just it's.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
Just great for the room.

Speaker 8 (24:43):
Everybody's contributing Yeah, Diggs had the one hundred yard game,
but everyone else was involved and it just continues to
feed on itself and continue to gather.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
Momentum in that receiving room. So it's a it's a
great sign.

Speaker 5 (24:56):
You guys have more good. Yeah, French's not happy this win, but.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
That's not you know, you got that wrong. I am
happy with the win.

Speaker 5 (25:07):
You don't think they played great?

Speaker 4 (25:08):
Well, No, they didn't. It's Thursday night. That's why I'm
happy with the win. Because it's a Thursday night.

Speaker 5 (25:14):
People have suddenly developed undue expectations.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
Well, listen, you thought they played great.

Speaker 5 (25:19):
Great, No, but would play pretty good.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
I think they played well enough to get out of dodge.

Speaker 7 (25:26):
You know, do you wish it was a blowout? Do
you feel as though you'd be more comfortable if there was?

Speaker 4 (25:30):
Of course I wish it was a blowout. Yeah, I mean,
I'm I. You know, Paul likes to he wishes for
the competitive games. I wish for the blowouts when it's
the Patriots. You know, I don't want to see close games.
Give me the entertainment with the other ones. I'm fully
entertained by my team blowing out the other team. But listen,
I'm I'm nine and two. Think about it, man, we're not.

Speaker 5 (25:54):
It's not a season good bad, shocked.

Speaker 4 (25:59):
I'm not a couple of When you're talking about goods
like I'm trying to think of like individuals, it's hard
to do.

Speaker 7 (26:10):
That's fair.

Speaker 5 (26:10):
Yeah, No, I agree with your original assessment that that
the star was was May and he was the one
who played the most. Closely to what we've come to
a customer, I agree with you on he.

Speaker 4 (26:22):
Was the difference between winning and losing.

Speaker 5 (26:24):
There was some up and down elements to some of
these other guys, but I thought early in the game,
Jet's try a little wrinkle with a little end, a
round throwback to the quarterback. Calebon Chase On is right
on Justin Fields on a play that they're probably thinking
we might be able to get it walk in touchdown.
One really nice play. Sticking with him. Jack Gibbons on

(26:45):
a screen pass to you know, to Breese Hall, which
is a big part of their offensive game plan is
trying to get the ball to haul at times in space,
you know, two yard loss with Jack Gibbons. So I'm
not telling you that those guys necessarily were great in
the game. They made good plays, but those were big plays. Yeah, okay,

(27:05):
you know at times, and.

Speaker 7 (27:06):
I think that's what the good list is this game, because,
like you said, yeah, in theory this they should have
blown out the Jets, but there are a lot of
people that stood out in specific moments where the game
could have turned around in the jets favor and they
were like, okay, I'm going to step up, yeah and
make sure that doesn't happen.

Speaker 6 (27:21):
That was a.

Speaker 4 (27:21):
Particularly good play by Chase because he was engaged and
he saw fields come out and was aware of that
and disengaged and went with him.

Speaker 6 (27:30):
You know.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
So it was a heads up hit play by forty.

Speaker 5 (27:33):
Four too, even like defended the pass. Well, yeah, yeah, Mike,
you got anything.

Speaker 8 (27:39):
I was just going to share a little bit, you know, Paul,
kind of backing up what you said about the pressure rate.
It was, you know, thirty five point one pressure rate
for the offense, which is their best second best performance
of the whole year according to next Jen Stats, second
to Carolina. So you know, the pass protection was was
better tonight. That's back and did not rush a lot tonight.
But like I said, they have two guys that are

(28:01):
good edge rushers and they rushed a lot and they
didn't get there a lot. Yeah, So I have another
thing that I don't think is minor. I put the
kick coverage tonight on the good list, and I'm going
to add in.

Speaker 5 (28:15):
I think Mike Rabel I think, and I don't know
if he'll be asked about this because it's minutia. That's
probably not warranted in a postgame press converence, but I'd
be curious when Matt comes in. I think they had
two second half touchbacks on kicks. I think they were
both intentional.

Speaker 7 (28:32):
Of course.

Speaker 5 (28:34):
I think that they had a lead and they said
to themselves, the only way we can lose this game
is if we give some free points away to a
team that's very dangerous in the return game. So I
thought when they when they kicked off conventionally, they covered
them well, tackled them around the thirty pretty much every time.
I think there was a twenty eight to twenty nine
to thirty one somewhere around there. And then they had

(28:55):
two touchbacks in the second half, one with a twenty
one to seven lead and one when they kicked the
field goal to make a twenty seven to fourteen. I
thought that was an element in the game. That was
one of the things that we all said the only
way that Jets can compete is if they special team special,
and the Patriots made sure that didn't happen. So it
might be minutia, but I think it was important in

(29:15):
the game. Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 7 (29:17):
Have one final silly one to add to the list.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
No, that could have been a good list.

Speaker 7 (29:24):
That's good. Shop to sixty nine yard drives for touchdowns
one in the second with Gronk be celebrated, all.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
Right, I will oh yes.

Speaker 7 (29:38):
Once I saw that second drive, I was like, I'm
adding this to the list.

Speaker 4 (29:41):
Very appropriate.

Speaker 8 (29:42):
Can we just stop for saying like the half ends
and you know, you're kind of like getting ready for
halftime and all of a sudden, like Gronk's bing boys
like they're just pumping it into the press box, and.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
Like, that's right, I'm bad.

Speaker 7 (29:54):
The energy that he had, I was like, I need
some of that.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
For both games, NonStop, non stop.

Speaker 7 (29:59):
On that one, it sounds like we're heading to the
bad list.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
Now we're going head to the bad Who wants to
how about those first drives?

Speaker 5 (30:05):
Yeah, I got so. I just first drive WTFE.

Speaker 8 (30:09):
That's all I wrote in my below it was right down,
right down the field again. Uh you know a little
bit of passing mixed in, you know, try to throw
the comeback, the throwback pass there to feels that they
this was the worst ending to me.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
Yeah, talk more about fourteen plays.

Speaker 5 (30:24):
Yeah, Like people have just been coming over seven minutes
with great scripts, right, They've been coming out with great
scripts and going down you know, six plays eighty yards touchdown.
This was like methodical converting third down after third down,
some quarterback runs, some throws, you know, slant to Mitchell.

(30:46):
They imagine they completed a past to Mitchell. I mean
that's like.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
Your guy must have hated this offense with the toss
plays and the options and the you know, the college offense. Well,
you must have hated this.

Speaker 8 (31:00):
It was it was working here on this drive, but
there were there were four third down conversions. You know,
Fields did some damage running his legs. It flashed back
to that Chicago Bears game. I thought they had a
pretty good plan with him, you know, I like Paul
asking Gonzalez about it. I'm guessing they were expecting that
a little bit. But let's dovetail the first drive right
into the third down defense, which you know, they they did,

(31:20):
they did get off the field.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Uh you know after this for.

Speaker 5 (31:24):
The rest of the first half was good three and
ounce the rest of the first half.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
No three in the second half on the second half.

Speaker 8 (31:30):
And I'm not sure exactly what the answer is, but
you know, it's again it just goes to this defense
and analyzing it and are you know, are these legitimate holes?
Is this you know, just kind of how it goes
within the play of the game that you know, some
teams are gonna, you know, can make some conversions on you.
But at the same time, I think there's just been
some recurring problems, including in the red zone. Was showed

(31:50):
up again right on that first drive where you know,
and it was I know what, Marcus Jones fell down
on a touchdown that Ben covered, So Woodson fell down.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
Sorry, you know, but there's been a lot of them
that's been too easy.

Speaker 8 (32:05):
Like it's like there's a guy wide open and you know,
I know, guy falls down, but.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
Still anyway he was he had a step down.

Speaker 8 (32:13):
I mean, this is you know, this is pitching catch
right here. You're watching the one inside just a quick
little you know, inside slant. So I I'm not sure
how they fixed this problem. But it's just I mean
it's every week. It's every single week. Teams are coming
out with a good plan and going right down the field.

Speaker 4 (32:28):
Well, and the Jets, you know, won the toss, but
elected to ye, like, we're.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
All sitting there going, oh, that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
They had a playoff and they and they thought that
their playing would work and they were right.

Speaker 5 (32:39):
So that gets to my my first pat is I'm
going to you know, we've been making a lot of
the double score. Well, you got double zeros on this one.
You get set up basically in field goal range. At
the end of the first half. I thought they got
a little conservative that they ran the ball. You come
out and run the ball on first down, that makes sense,

(33:00):
but you get too many men in the field penalty,
so it becomes first and five and then they ran
it again. Yeah, I don't think you needed the second run.
Then they go deep and then they run a couple,
you know, they run a slanted digs, a little dump
off to Henderson. You got it going. And then I
thought they you know, they stalled out and then you
missed the field goal, which is another one on my

(33:21):
bad list.

Speaker 6 (33:22):
And so.

Speaker 5 (33:25):
You come out in the second half and you get
stuffed stuffed on the first drive and you come away
with no points. You had a couple of long yarded
situations that you put yourself in and you were able
to get out of one of them and not the
second one. Yeah, they're just not great.

Speaker 7 (33:41):
Yeah. Yeah, similar to the good list. A lot of
the people on my bad list were people that had
bad plays that I felt like, again could have shifted
the momentum in the Jets favor. And you mentioned Andy
Burgalis them icing him missing that forty five yarder. It yeah,
you know, and he's been having a great run so far,
ever since Week one. But it's one of those things

(34:01):
where I was like, God forbid that was the game winning.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Yeah, now you need it from him. He's been on
a good heater.

Speaker 8 (34:07):
I mean, you're not going to hold this totally against him,
I mean, especially as a rookie, but like you said,
he missed a field goal week one, he missed two
extra points in week two. He's been good since then.
Hopefully this isn't the start of another trend. And we're
seeing Mike Grabiel looked like he was about to put
him on the bad list as well, exactly, But I
could bounce back for him though that other one you know,

(34:28):
that's you know, similar similar distance, similar spot on the field,
So a little bit of a bounce back there from bor.

Speaker 5 (34:35):
Yep, you have anything, uh.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
Not off the top of my head, so bad.

Speaker 7 (34:43):
Craig Woodson on there, but that was like it was
one play that really would.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
Just make because where he fell.

Speaker 7 (34:51):
And I'm like, how do you lose you like this?

Speaker 4 (34:54):
I know, I know he was everyone's darling last week,
but Kyle Williams, Oh yeah, he's bad. You know, he
had that one game last week and he's right back
to everything. Just doesn't look right when the ball gets
thrown his way. I mean, like really bad. Yeah, what
is going on with that?

Speaker 5 (35:13):
It's a good one, fred I didn't have it written down.
That's a good, good point.

Speaker 4 (35:18):
He's just not He just doesn't know his routes. He
has no instincts, you know, even the one pass where
you know, may scrambled. Uh, he's got to come back
to that ball.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Yeah, this one on the wrong shoulder.

Speaker 5 (35:33):
I mean, you know, I don't know if.

Speaker 8 (35:37):
Say what what's wrong or not, but what's clear to
me is that they just don't have any chemistry yet.
And that's that's the unfortunate part, and it's it hasn't really.

Speaker 5 (35:45):
I mean, I know what I talked about in the pregame,
Mike and I sort of said, you know, we'd love
to see him catch four or five balls. I don't
care if it was for like thirty or forty yards. Right,
it just looks like he has a connection with the
quarterback and it looks just like it did the first.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
Yeah, he's back to nine games. You thought that, Okay,
he had that play last week. Give him some confidence.
Maybe you know he has that three or four catch game,
like Paul said in.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
Uh huh No, No, it's a good one for him.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
Yeah, we need booty back. We do give me my
booty back.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
I want my back.

Speaker 5 (36:19):
I think he was fortunate to have a guy who
evidently wears boxing gloves during the game. And I'm serious, like,
I don't think I've ever seen a guy just not
be able to catch as many catchable passes in one
games as Mitchell did tonight. There were at least three.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
The bomb the Cowboys are like, yeah, we got rid
of them.

Speaker 5 (36:39):
The Colts, the little one that admittedly fields made a
bad throw to the outside when he but he really
beat Gonzales on that play, but he still had it
in two hands. And then he had a little crossing
route right before the Metchi touchdown, the little crossing route
that goes literally right through his hands. You never see

(37:01):
NFL players have a ball go through their hands like
that and not at least like it bounces off.

Speaker 4 (37:06):
It's almost like he's having vision problems.

Speaker 5 (37:08):
So in all three of those plays, Gonzo was in
coverage on and you know it doesn't show.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
Up, but maybe just the presence of Gonzo.

Speaker 7 (37:18):
I know, well.

Speaker 5 (37:22):
That all's got to get caught. I know this is
a bad gets caught up in the wash right there,
and he gets beat like that. If that's a good throw,
that's a big play. Yeah, well but he's got two
you have to catch.

Speaker 8 (37:36):
That sets up a big game next weekend for Gonzo
against some legit superstars.

Speaker 5 (37:42):
Someone tells me Gonzo will be a little more locked
in a little with that chan that challenge as opposed
to this guy. Yeah, I also had you know, I
call him pick threes even though it's a fumble recovery.
I mean, you got you got to put the game
away right there and make it a three score game.
Fred that's just poor to me, just poor to you. Yeah, yeah, no, seriously,

(38:04):
like it's first over? Was it even the eleven?

Speaker 4 (38:08):
I think so, I thought it was.

Speaker 5 (38:10):
You might be right, yeah, uh, you know, four plays,
three yards field goal not not not what you're looking for, ye,
not what you're looking for. You get a gift on
a on a fumbled snap. It's not even like you
did anything to force a turnover. You get it gifted
to you, and then you gift four points right back
to the other team by not being able to put
the game away. You know, like why you know, we

(38:31):
joke around about the stupid nod, which is meaningless because,
let's face it hasn't been right in fifteen years. You're
looking for a nod, Well, that's the nod, that's the
knockout blow, and you kick a field goal and you
leave the team in the game. Yeah, because it's thirteen
instead of seventeen.

Speaker 8 (38:47):
See, these are things to me that are really that
will get your beat, because these are things that will
get your beat against good teams in the playoffs. And
that's you know, I think what we started to do
analyzing this team is holding them to a standard of
the playoffs and the things that we'll get your beat.
And you know, just as a prime example, you can't
go into a playoff game and allow the other teams
just to go right down the field and score. You know,
I mean it's sometimes it happens, but they've got to

(39:09):
figure out a way to stop that trend. And you know,
you just you can't always play from behind right out
of the shoot So I'll be interested to see Fred
if other teams are taking the ball, you go and
testing them on it, because there aren't a lot of
statistical weaknesses on this defense, but that one in red
zone are definitely.

Speaker 4 (39:24):
I mean next week, you know, a week from Sunday
when they play the Bengals with or without Burrow, they're
putting up a lot of points. So you let this
team score first, and you're you're going to be in
a shootout.

Speaker 7 (39:40):
And to your point in the press box that we
were all talking about the fact that that's probably why
the Jets took the ball because they knew if they
see that, they oh yeah, I was on different floor.
Look at that.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
Everyone some ball knowers on all.

Speaker 4 (39:54):
Sometimes sometimes the stats don't lie.

Speaker 5 (39:57):
I gotta tell you, I still think it's dumb.

Speaker 4 (39:59):
Really go kicking the ball.

Speaker 5 (40:02):
So let's just unwrap this game for a second. So
they took the ball and got as perfect as a
start can be. So not only you score a touchdown,
you take eight minutes to score a touchdown. So you
shortening the game, right, Yep, you still should have been
down two scores going into the second half when the
other team's going to have the ball. Yeah, So to

(40:25):
what end when you're taking the ball? What's the difference
if you score first or second, but give yourself a
chance to get that double score. That's that back to
back possessions, right, Yeah, so the other team, So the
Patriots got the back to back possessions. Now, fortunately for
the Jets, they didn't score in either one of them,
but they just as easily could have the other.

Speaker 4 (40:45):
Thing about taking the ball take you know, letting the
other team take the ball on the road, is it
quiets the crowd down. The crowd is going to lose
that early, the momentum that they had at the beginning
of the game, because they have to get be quiet
for their offense, right, and then if and then if
you can stop their offense, Yeah, takes maybe some of
the air out of the crowd. Too, right, I will

(41:06):
always defer, and then.

Speaker 5 (41:07):
If you my defense on the field, especially at home. Yeah,
to reason to.

Speaker 8 (41:12):
Your point two in the second half, then you're getting
the ball in the second half and people might still
be in the in the concession stands.

Speaker 4 (41:17):
You know, it's a little wide.

Speaker 8 (41:19):
You know, the second half doesn't always start off the
same way.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
But yeah, I don't know. I mean, it seemed like it.

Speaker 8 (41:24):
Worked on like it's even when it worked, they still
if the Patriots are able to execute like they have
in recent weeks around halftime, they.

Speaker 4 (41:30):
Still be in a weather game, especially when there's win.
If you take the if you left to receive and
you win the toss, don't you get to determine which
half on the second half, which side of the field
you're going to defend in the fourth quarter?

Speaker 3 (41:45):
Well, I think if you take the ball, the other
team picks which end they want, right.

Speaker 5 (41:49):
But then but then in the right so the other
team could decide that we're going to defend this goal
and kick off both halves or something like that.

Speaker 4 (41:57):
Yeah, you could do that.

Speaker 5 (41:58):
Yeah, you have the option in the second half to
either take the wind or take the ball. If it
was like extreme win right, right, I didn't have a
lot of things on my bad list because I'm kind
of in the Monday, Monday, the Thursday night mode. I
think these are the way that Thursday night games generally, Like,

(42:20):
I know what you're saying, Fred, and I don't think you're.

Speaker 4 (42:21):
Wrong disappointed life, I would love, very disappointed.

Speaker 5 (42:26):
To spend the next hour bickering with you, because I
love bickering with you. But I agree with you. I
don't think it was a great crisp performance, but it
was a Thursday night performance that was more than good
enough that yeah, that's it for me.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
That's it for me.

Speaker 5 (42:38):
And I also don't think they're all that capable of
playing that much better. Like we've seen greatness at times
every game, and then periods we were like, Josh doesn't
know what he's doing.

Speaker 7 (42:51):
What's it running for?

Speaker 4 (42:53):
How much of a fact do you think losing you know,
basically losing Williams for the majority of the game made.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
Yeah, a little bit little bit sure.

Speaker 8 (43:00):
I mean, uh, you know, I mean we should say too,
it's a good sign that he came back briefly. And
then I mean I was saying at that point just
hold him out. But yeah, I mean I think they
definitely have some injuries. That's another part of this with
that's a.

Speaker 5 (43:11):
Concern to me.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
No Hooper, no, no Booty, no Stevenson.

Speaker 8 (43:15):
I mean they were a little yeah, they were a
little bit shorthanded, and uh, you know, so I don't
know if.

Speaker 5 (43:20):
He snaps and he came back on a third down,
like the first third down of the next drive, he
came back in and my guess is you can't do it.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
And I don't know what's going on with Landry, but
let's hope that this extra few days helps him because
he just doesn't have the burst, he doesn't have any
any quickness.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
Yeah, yeah, I gotta keep an eye on him.

Speaker 8 (43:42):
But uh, you know, I'm not that he's on the
good list or anything, but you know, Ponder showed up
a little bit and he's getting some chances and he
did last week too, yep, yep, So maybe that's a
you know, a positive sign.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
Saw a little bit Anthony Jennings to recover, you know,
Johnny on the spot with the fumble.

Speaker 8 (43:56):
But uh yeah, that's it's it's definitely a concern. I
mean I I I tend to think Landry's still a
little banged up from that ankle injury, and I thought
he was gone for the year when he heard his
ankle there against New Orleans and he's been toughing it out.

Speaker 5 (44:08):
But no question the Williams injury would be in my
if he were out long term. I'm saying, you know,
that would be the first significant problem since gone Zoe
in those first three games. Yeah, yeah, that would be.
He's played very well for them, and I'm you know,
you guys are right, like I'm not telling you. I
can't quantify it, but I don't think the defense was

(44:31):
quite as good as it has been the you know,
over the balance of the game, it's always that first
drive and then they lock it down. They didn't lock
it down in the second half of this game. The
Jets moved the ball every time they had it the
second half. The first drive they were in Patriots territory
and got a very close intentional grounding where he kind
of ran out of the tackle box and maybe was

(44:51):
back in it and maybe there was I like intentional grounding.
I think they need to call it more often, but
they don't.

Speaker 7 (44:58):
Call it so long to call it because they have to.

Speaker 5 (45:01):
Make sure that the guy is where he's supposed to
be and there's no one in the area and they
all have to talk.

Speaker 4 (45:05):
There was certainly no one in the area between the tackles.

Speaker 5 (45:08):
I think I think they should call that more often.
I'd like to see that penalty that they called tonight
called yeah, regularly, But that stopped that drive. Then the
next drive, I think they went down and scored a touchdown.
The next drive, I think they went down and got stopped, like, oh, well,
that was it. They had the fumbled snap in between.
That was the only stop they really got in the

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second half. Then they drove down and you know, we're
inside the fifteen to end the game. So you know,
it wasn't like, you know, they just they just just
don't have that kind of an offense that they're going
to put up big numbers. But two hundred and forty
five yards for them, it's like one hundred more than
they had last week when they scored twenty seven points.

Speaker 4 (45:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
Yeah, there's the there's the tackle box.

Speaker 5 (45:55):
Yeah, and there's no one. There's no one there. That's
to me, that's intentional grounding. But they don't call this
a lot. They don't call intentional grounding a lot. But
I think that's a good call, and I think that's
the right call.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
We got through all of it.

Speaker 4 (46:10):
I mean, we cover that, We talked to Williams injured.
Anyone else got nicked up?

Speaker 6 (46:15):
No one.

Speaker 5 (46:16):
I think Chasen was was limping around on the sideline
at one point, but I think he was back in there.

Speaker 7 (46:22):
Diggs took a fall that had me a little bit.

Speaker 4 (46:24):
Thought he was holding his hip, but he came right back.

Speaker 7 (46:27):
Yeah, but he's a fighter, a gamer.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
Yeah, kid, if he caught it, he gotten smoked.

Speaker 5 (46:33):
Yeah, hospital, Yeah, that was I mean that might have
been his only bad throw it to night Gary.

Speaker 4 (46:39):
Yeah, a drop, but that was might have been a
business decision by Diggs.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
Close. Well, we'll forgive him of that.

Speaker 7 (46:47):
Okay, we're getting calls. I know the fans are excited
about this one. So we'll go back to our friend
Patty and I hope that's right. We'll see Patty. How
are you feeling?

Speaker 5 (46:56):
It was a therapy, that's greater.

Speaker 13 (47:00):
I'm feeling good.

Speaker 4 (47:02):
You're feeling real good now.

Speaker 13 (47:06):
I was texting my fellow Whackpackers and I just said,
you know, at the beginning of the season, I said
I'd be happy with seven to nine wins as long
as they were making progress, and I couldn't have envisioned this,
like nine and two. I just I can't believe it
after the last couple of years of crap that we
had to sit through. And like I was listening to

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you guys and watching the Amazon postgame and Brabil and
Drake May were sitting down with their crew, and it
just seems genuine, you know, it seems like these guys
really like love playing like May loves playing for the guy,
and this whole team loves them. And what this team
does is it doesn't matter if they you know, Thursday

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night or in Buffalo against a good team, against Tampa Bay,
against the crappy teams, this team just wins. And I'm
just excited, guys. I can't wait to see where the
season goes. We got six games left and that's freaking crazy.

Speaker 4 (48:05):
I mean, if they go three and three, they have
twelve wins.

Speaker 8 (48:08):
I'm sick of I'm not you know, Okay, let's.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
Get to thirteen.

Speaker 7 (48:18):
We're gonna head somewhere more warm Miami, Steve, then that's
that heat.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
If you're awake Steve, Steve in Miami, wake up.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
Steve, Steve, that's the button all right, Luke.

Speaker 7 (48:32):
In Georgia, I just shung up on. I'm sorry, Luke,
are you up?

Speaker 14 (48:37):
Hey?

Speaker 5 (48:39):
We got you?

Speaker 4 (48:40):
Hey.

Speaker 15 (48:41):
So I am extatic. Never in a million years that
I have thought we are where we are right now,
But being a spoiled Patriots fan and I'm relatively not
a ball nowhere, I just feel like the past two
weeks we've kind of oh taken that we're we're getting

(49:02):
a two score leader or so, and then kind of
taking the foot off the gas.

Speaker 6 (49:07):
Now.

Speaker 13 (49:07):
I enjoyed the game, love the game, it was great,
happy to win, have to have a winning season.

Speaker 15 (49:11):
But do you all concur is it something we're doing?
Is it something opposing teams are doing? Just the Thursday
night Will and I'll take it off air than you.

Speaker 4 (49:22):
Why can't they think? You know, he's saying the last
two weeks, you get a two score lead and you
kind of take your foot off. Seems like you take
your take your foot off the gas.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
I don't know. I don't know if I put it
that way. I understand what.

Speaker 16 (49:34):
I don't think looking for perfection right, I think people
are looking at the record and they think that they're
at a level that I don't think they're at ye.

Speaker 8 (49:46):
Well, they're expecting, you know, it to be perfect every time.
And what's encouraging to me is that you're seeing the
flashes of the place. I don't think you can expect
those on every down, but I don't think it's too
much to expect.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
Expect a little bit more, a little bit more consistency.

Speaker 5 (49:58):
I mean, that's probably the next see. I kind of
think it is. And I think that people are looking
at this team like it's like the fourteen Patriots, Like
once the Patriots had control of the game, they're going
to take a two score game and make it a
four score game because they were that good. This team
isn't This team is better than the teams it's playing
each week, not by a ton no difference.

Speaker 4 (50:22):
I mean, think about it. The run game isn't really
that consistent.

Speaker 5 (50:26):
They averaged three point three yards. Henderson averaged three point
three yards tonight. He had three touchdowns and I know
he's going to get a lot of flowers for it,
and he should. He's playing really well. I don't mean
to say that it's on him, because it doesn't matter
if it's Stevenson running. Didn't matter if it was Deannis
Johnson tonight got three carries. They don't run the ball
very well. I'll give them credit tonight. You know, when

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the game was over, you know up thirteen, they ran
it three times for a first down.

Speaker 4 (50:52):
Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
Yeah, I mean maybe that's part of it.

Speaker 5 (50:55):
Paul I. You know, and I don't mean Mike. I
don't mean to like say like you're wrong.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
This is as good as they can be, period.

Speaker 5 (51:02):
But I kind of think it is like I think
that they're playing very well every week, but they're not
going to play sixty minutes of like flawless offense. Yeah,
well not not with the cast that they have. I
just start to trying it back, is almost perfect every game.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
I would just started trying to find the rising numbers today.

Speaker 5 (51:20):
Twenty five to thirty four for two eighty one in
a touchdown, yeah, one oh six point seven.

Speaker 4 (51:25):
But it's just looks like an average game for him.

Speaker 5 (51:28):
It was a little dyslexic, right, one oh seven point six.

Speaker 8 (51:30):
If this is how it looks like with him with
no running game at all, I don't think it's too
much to expect that Ramandra Stevenson comes back and maybe
you find some stride in the run game, and then
it takes some of this pressure off of Drake. May
I mean to me, that's part of it too, that
it's all kind of on him right now. And yeah,
they made some big plays last week that really changed
the game. But if he had a consistent run game,

(51:52):
and it doesn't even have to be dominating, but consistent,
it might be a little.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
Bit more favorable. And then number the third and longs
he's trying to get it.

Speaker 5 (51:59):
I would have been that. So but I've watched eleven
games and I haven't seen a consistent running game and
any yeah, yeah, yeah, so I totally agree. If they
ran the ball better, it wouldn't be on Drake made
to convert third and twelve every time.

Speaker 8 (52:11):
Well, the Miami game, you know, like that one, it
felt like they had they got a little juice from
Remandra and it was a little more around it. Right now,
this might be a next year thing. This might be
a thing where we say, that's where we got a kid.
We got Henderson, we need to build around him. We
got to figure out this offense.

Speaker 5 (52:26):
Maybe we get another receiver, you know, who makes us
a little better. Maybe Fred's guy comes back and he
maybe you know, some of these struggles in the second half.
If Booty was there, it might maybe it would look
a little different. You know, I feel like they played
pretty well most of these games. You know, it wasn't perfect,
but there's six or twelve on third down three hundred

(52:46):
and thirty six yards. The only drive that I really
was annoyed with was they take over on the fumble
and they go three and out. Yeah, like that can't happen.
But you know, Bryce Barringer doesn't get a lot of work.
His's punt a lot in these games. I think their
offense is pretty good every week. Now this kind of

(53:07):
leads back. I think Fred and I are on a
different page from you and Evan. Evan made a comment,
sort of an offhand comment during one of the PU
shows this week where he said, you know, they have,
you know, an explosive offense, and Fred just stopped in
his tracks. Would you characterize this offense as explosive? And
that's what right? I'm not mischaracterizing you, right, No, I

(53:29):
sort of fall in the middle of you too, but
I know exactly what you were talking about. I think
that they're generally scoring around twenty four points a game. Yep,
when you take out like this is a perfect example.
Take out the three that they gave you and it's
twenty four right now. You could say they missed a
field goal. I would say, get they gave you three

(53:50):
on that one too, with the guy dropping the pass
at the end of the half which gave you that possession.
But you take out the kick return in Miami, your
low twenty yep, you take out the you know, the
defensive scores that get set up, like you know, the
punt returns from Marcus Jones that gave you fourteen to
get you into Like their offense has been very consistent,

(54:12):
and it's very consistently around twenty five points.

Speaker 4 (54:15):
I'd be had Like if I could say just good,
that's a good offen it is, But like I wish
I could say, well, you know that they're just playing
with their food, But they're not. They're not. You know,
they're doing enough to win these games. And at the
end they're they're usually ending the games on a knee,
which is a good sign. You're ending the game with
the ball in your hands, with your quarterback taking a knee.

(54:38):
That's that's that's huge in this league. And you know
so and when they we got nothing to complain about.
But they're not an explosive offense yet, Well, no different.

Speaker 5 (54:49):
Between They're not ready to say that. I'm not ready
to say it's an explosive offense just because they have
all of these, you know, explosive plays, but I'm not
willing to say they're not explosive.

Speaker 8 (54:58):
Is there a difference between explosive and high scoring? Because
I think Paul saying they're not scoring.

Speaker 5 (55:03):
They're they're not they're not high.

Speaker 8 (55:04):
They make explosive plays like, way more consistently than I've seen.

Speaker 5 (55:10):
Mike, Yeah, yes, one hundred, so compare comparatively to the
last two years. It's like this is the ninety nine Rams.

Speaker 4 (55:17):
Yes, they are making X plays. Mike, don't know doubt
about it. I mean, Drake may for a while, I
don't know if it's still true, but he was the
best downfield passer in the league.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
I mean he still looks like.

Speaker 8 (55:26):
It's that's I mean, that's where the weird nuance of
it is, because I mean, Paul's right, they don't score thirty.
You know, I think by some measures, explosive means out
they're thirty thirty five.

Speaker 5 (55:37):
We're watching the numbers. We're watching Drake May And you know,
Evan has a crush, right, so let's.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
Face it, let's call it. It is more than a crash.

Speaker 5 (55:43):
And Mike and I sometimes have to hose Evan off
during games. So you know, we're talking about, you know
where his numbers are, And I go, you know, if
he had hit that one, you know, if if Hollins
was able to hold on that go, that would have
given him his first three hundred yard game. Yeah, And
he goes, what are you talking about? I go, he's
never had a three hundred yard game. Now, three hundred

(56:04):
is benchmark right in the NFL, Like four hundred is exceptional.
Three hundred is like, oh, you had a we had
a really good game, solid game. He's had a million
games like tonight where he's like two eighty ish yep,
which is really good. Yeah, right to your point, I
wouldn't classify that was like explosively. Now, I think he's
like third in the league in yards.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
Yeah, I mean six six twenty plus plays tonight.

Speaker 5 (56:27):
Yeah, but they're but they're like twenty two, twenty three.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
Yeah, twenty twenty one, three.

Speaker 5 (56:33):
Twenty six, right, which again it's not like Mike and
I will sit here and well we watched the last
two years this week. Yeah, you know this is this
has been great, But there's it. Like to Fred's point,
I just don't want to like beat up on Fred
because he sort of sees it differently. I know what
Fred's talking about. I'm in between.

Speaker 8 (56:53):
Yeah, well I think that there's it's not so I
was here seven I know what.

Speaker 4 (56:58):
I know that offense explosive.

Speaker 8 (57:04):
And thirty eight points a pop, you know, essentially when
they were flying with all with all things, and so
I mean it's there's just some nuance here that they
hit a lot of twentiest plays, but you know, not
enough to score consistently in the thirties yet.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
But you hope that even the.

Speaker 5 (57:18):
Game last week, you end up with twenty eight and
it looks great like you're not You're trying to run
the clock out at the end of the game and
you rip off a seventy yard run Like that's not
like explosive.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
It's not really an explosive way back and forth them.
You know, I mean we.

Speaker 5 (57:35):
Expecting that, like like Bill just say, you know you're
not calling that play expecting to score a touchdown.

Speaker 6 (57:39):
You know what.

Speaker 3 (57:40):
You know what next week though, next week.

Speaker 5 (57:43):
Next week defense.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
But you're going all the time.

Speaker 5 (57:45):
You know what to do. You got to make sure
you make that defense look like the worst defense in
the league, just like tonight. I wanted to like, I'm
a tiny bit disappointed in the defense tonight because I
wanted to see them look like they made Cleveland look
so inept.

Speaker 4 (58:01):
So like an explosive offense is like the Fourth of July,
like a twenty minute firework display, instead of four or
five bombs going off every drive, getting some.

Speaker 5 (58:11):
People the bottle rocket.

Speaker 8 (58:12):
This is like we went with Paul up to New Hampshire.
We bought you know, we bought some bottle rocket.

Speaker 4 (58:20):
Candles, a couple of booms, a couple of booms, but
but not the whole professional. It's not the Fourth of
July yet.

Speaker 5 (58:29):
Freddy knows them already knows has some experience, already had
a wonderful wedding in New hamps.

Speaker 17 (58:37):
Afterwards, big budget for that one.

Speaker 5 (58:45):
Who was a younger time yea digs running really seriously,
I'm just watching, uh, you know the regularly one of
the TV broadcasts showing some of the highlights to that.
Chris has already run through some of those runs by
some routes by digs though.

Speaker 4 (59:00):
Oh he's so professional, so dependable, He's got a really unique.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
I'm so glad.

Speaker 5 (59:07):
I just know how much I know how much you
didn't like him.

Speaker 8 (59:09):
Well I'm seeing now because it's reminded me when you're
on the other side of it, how maddening it is.
Because he's great on those gotta have it moments, you know,
and that's with Buffalo. So many times we saw him
doing exactly what he you know, did to the Jets tonight,
and what he's been doing all year long.

Speaker 3 (59:25):
And you know, I mean I just speaking like.

Speaker 8 (59:28):
Having having covered his press conferences now in the locker
room like every week we get, you know, just saying
all the right stuff.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
I don't know what he was like younger in his career.

Speaker 8 (59:36):
I don't know what he was like off the field
or in the locker room if he was, you know,
but he has been. We walk in there Wednesday, He's
ready to go at his locker. He does not try
to get out of it. He's got jokes, he's happy
to talk to everybody. He's pointing out other guys on
the team. He's just doing everything you could ask.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
Of the guy on and off the field.

Speaker 5 (59:54):
Those two touchdown drives in the first half tonight I
really liked because they were, you know, just methodical, a
lot of you know, a lot of third and threes
that they're converting with ease. You just quick throws, wide
open boom, you know, just good execution. The one in
the second half is that it was one that included
like four straight wall plays by Drake May, which are great.

(01:00:16):
I love watching those two, but you know, my whole
thing is like, that's not really stuff you want to
rely on, like Fred said, like him running to the
sideline and being like a split grass, blade of grass
away from you know. Yeah, that's what they love though,
But I I you know, again, it was great to watch.
Great to watch that drive to start the you know,

(01:00:38):
the second drive of the second half, this is the
one I think you're talking about, Fred, that's just a
little dump off, you know, light.

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
Yep, back breakers. Man's just frustrating.

Speaker 5 (01:00:48):
I thought he might have been over the line of
scrimmage on that one, but they never really showed the
line of scrimmage so.

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
I couldn't tell.

Speaker 5 (01:00:53):
So yeah, looked okay, but there's no stick on that side.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
It was I think on the first one they showed
they had.

Speaker 5 (01:01:00):
I can't see.

Speaker 7 (01:01:01):
Yeah, all right, let's head back out to the phone lines.
We're gonna go up, not to in New Hampshire, Let's
go to Maine. Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 18 (01:01:10):
Hello Peter, Peter, Hello, Hey, Hello, this is amazing. It
feels like just yesterday I was standing in the rain
watching the Patriots get beat six zip by the Chargers.
I wanted to talk about Robert Kraft getting more credit
because you know, you go way back. You made a

(01:01:30):
bold call bringing Belichick. He made another bold call showing
them the door. He elevated Mayo, he made a really
you know it was it was a tough call showing
on the door. But then really what's important is both
Rabel and McDaniels both wanted to come back.

Speaker 13 (01:01:46):
And work for him.

Speaker 18 (01:01:47):
So he deserves a lot of credit for the organization
he built, and these guys want to come back to
the Patriots and coach. And the question though, also I
have because I've heard a lot of this on Paul's shows,
is that it was Craft who brought him Daniels and
as if Rabel had no, no, no saying the matter.
And I don't think that's true. I think Rabel want
Hi McDaniel's back just as much.

Speaker 4 (01:02:08):
Crafted Yeah, I have no idea. I assume Rabel was
on board. I mean, you know, you're not going to
bring in the head coach and and not have him
agree on who his offensive coordinator is going to be.

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
So but uh, yeah, I agree.

Speaker 4 (01:02:23):
I mean you have to admit failure, and you know,
in tectors of saying you fail fast, you know, with startups,
and you pivot and you go a different direction, and
and sometimes that's not easy to do, and it was.
I'm sure it was pretty hard for Robert Kraft after
having promised Gerrod Mayo that job and Darrowd Mayo waiting

(01:02:47):
for that job for the years that he did, and
then he finally gets it, and then Kraft has to
tell him after one season, you're out. I'm sure that
was a real difficult thing to do, but he had
to do it.

Speaker 8 (01:02:59):
I mean, it's even more interesting to me after Brian
Costello kind of confirmed some of the reports that we
heard about Rabel had a meeting the Friday before the
last game of the season, So two days before we
were sitting here in the postgame show and the news
broke that they you know, had let Mayo go.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
I mean, Rabel had already met with the Jets. They
wanted him.

Speaker 8 (01:03:18):
So I mean that, to me, within the worst possible
scenario to let a Patriots Hall of Famer like Mike
Rabel gets to the Jets.

Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
So you know, it seemed like they had to move
fast if they wanted to get on that. So grateful now.

Speaker 4 (01:03:30):
Yeah, I mean we didn't know that at the time,
but yeah now we do.

Speaker 7 (01:03:35):
Yeah, all right speed in Fresno speak.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
What's going on?

Speaker 19 (01:03:42):
Yeah, I mean I feel I still feel bad for
for Mayo and the way that ended, But man, I
can't be more grateful. Man, this is unbelievable.

Speaker 6 (01:03:51):
We're not. It's crazy.

Speaker 19 (01:03:52):
Yeah, It's just I can't. I can't believe it. I
feel bad for the guy, for Mao, but this is
the like.

Speaker 20 (01:04:03):
I will I did.

Speaker 19 (01:04:04):
I did want more definitive win against the Jets. I
wanted full on, like antal proleps, but you know, Thursday
night and they didn't get there. But man, I just
can't believe it. I wanted to ask you guys a
couple of things, like there's that first drive where it
seems like the Jets balls down for seven I have
this mythological idea that the Patriots are so I don't know, awesome,

(01:04:26):
that they just they're just waiting to watch the other
team score and they're going to figure it out and
just offensively. And I mean, I've almost kind of seen
that in the past and various iterations of the dynasty,
and I wonder if that's a mythology. And I'm just
seeing what I want to see. And the second thing
I wanted to ask before I hop off is because

(01:04:48):
the fireball is kicking in, It's kicked. It's kicked.

Speaker 21 (01:04:55):
I'm kicked.

Speaker 7 (01:04:56):
Everything is fine.

Speaker 4 (01:04:57):
Yeah, it's only what kind of clo as they.

Speaker 19 (01:05:03):
Say everything is everything is awesome?

Speaker 22 (01:05:06):
You know?

Speaker 19 (01:05:07):
With with Drake, I wanted to get your guys takes
like comps on him, both like in two ways, one
as a as like a leader of personality so far,
but then separately as a player, because that's a player
I'm doing like a combination of I don't know, Farv
and Manning and I don't know, it's it's just smorgas board.

(01:05:28):
But I wanted to hear your guys takes and all that,
and I will absolutely get out of your way for it.

Speaker 8 (01:05:34):
Drake May I mean, I just I think the easiest
one is the Justin Herbert and and Josh Allen. You know,
he's in that vicinity of big mobile quarterbacks with arm
and you know, he doesn't quite have the size and
kind of the brute's strength of Josh Allen. You know,
he's not quite maybe the cannon that Justin Herbert has.

Speaker 5 (01:05:53):
But I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
Those two guys.

Speaker 4 (01:05:54):
Are a little bit of Brett Farve him. He's got
a lot of Josh Allen in him, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:06:00):
I think all of them. Yeah, I think you guys
have good ones all around.

Speaker 7 (01:06:02):
On the screen. We have the regular season MVP odds,
drag May still leading the pack, a.

Speaker 5 (01:06:07):
Lot of m VP chants, and I a lot of
yeah early it was a good crowd. So are you're
going to be one of those guys that you know,
I mean not necessarily you specifically, but guys the Royal
you you guys, you're concerned if he wins the m
v P with the you know, the lack of Super
Bowl winners. I think Mahome the trend. Mahomes won the

(01:06:30):
m v P in the Super Bowl in twenty two.
I believe before that you had to go back.

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
To ninety nine. Oh for an MVP whov won the
super Bowl the year the year he won the I
didn't know what, so I wouldn't have been concerned about it,
But now I am lot. I don't want him to
win now tonight.

Speaker 9 (01:06:45):
No, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:06:47):
I don't really I don't care about nonsense like that.
That doesn't really matter.

Speaker 4 (01:06:50):
I just think I don't even understand what you're saying.

Speaker 5 (01:06:54):
There's been one guy who won the m v P
in the super Bowl and the year he won the.

Speaker 4 (01:06:58):
MVA okay, and so you're saying it if he wins
almost certainly, it's like feels like it's not going to
win the super Bowl, not gonna Yeah, yeah, even yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:07:06):
I think things that are coincidences don't worry me. Yeah,
Like there's if you can give me a fact to
say you can't win the super Bowl if you win
the MVP, then I would not want him to win
the MVP. Right, But it's a coincidence that Tom Brady person, yeah,
didn't win the super Bowl and O seven and ten
when he won m v P s, they certainly had

(01:07:28):
teams that were good enough to win the super Bowl
in O seven anyway, I don't know about ten, but
in O seven they certainly, you know, with twenty seconds
away from being undefeated. So I don't think it was
because he won the MVP that they didn't win.

Speaker 8 (01:07:43):
I just think it's an interesting I like the debate,
and I've always been a guy that airs on the
side of for MVP, it should be the guy who
elevates his team the most, not the best player on
the best team. I think the most strongest kiow right there,
you know, is everything we just talked about that which
Mike every day, every game, it's someone new stepping up
around May.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
But ultimately he doesn't really have a running game and
he doesn't really have Jamar Chase out there.

Speaker 8 (01:08:05):
So you know, to me, this is kind of what
the MVP is supposed to be, the guy who is
really just elevating the team, especially doing it like the
way he's done it kind of out of nowhere too.
That's just you know, I know that doesn't count towards
MVP voting, but I never I never would have expected
this this year from him, and it's it's remarkable and
it's it's fun to watch.

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Drake May's the guy, and I think we could build
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I know we could.

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I just feel like I got to make sure I
get this kid his flowers. I mean, it's been so
impressive what he's done. And you wait for some ebs
and flows, and there have been microscopic ones, but for
the most part, he's been on an upper trajectory this
whole season long.

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Speaker 7 (01:13:43):
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Speaker 9 (01:13:56):
Well that's to be determined to.

Speaker 7 (01:13:57):
Well, we'll see. I'm hoping.

Speaker 9 (01:14:00):
Well, what do we got to hear? Boys and girls?
What do you think?

Speaker 7 (01:14:02):
You know? We feel good.

Speaker 5 (01:14:03):
I want to know what Mike Grabel thinks.

Speaker 24 (01:14:05):
All right, so without any of you doo, without further ado,
let's go to the videotape and here from Mike Grabel.

Speaker 6 (01:14:11):
Players are staff.

Speaker 12 (01:14:12):
I thank them so many times just being able to
roll in there on Monday, have stuff prepared, you know,
it's hard to you know, go on the road to Tampa,
you know, and get your mind, you know, ready for that.
But also in the back of your mind you've got
a whole another box about you know, what are you
going to do against the Jets and being able able

(01:14:32):
to get on a plane, come home, get in late,
but have that ready to go and have energy and
a game plan ready for the players on Monday at
one o'clock. So thank the trainers, thank the staff, the
strength staff, everybody involved for for getting our players ready
to go for the game here in a short, short week.

Speaker 17 (01:14:56):
Your fans were chanting MVP for Drake from the minute
he came out in almost every series. What did you
make of his performance tonight and his performance in general
and route well, I.

Speaker 12 (01:15:10):
Would say his performance in general has been you know,
what we expect, and you know, we have high expectations
for Drake has high expectations for himself. He'll continue to
improve and know that he'll stay humble through this all.
And you know, again and as far as the performance tonight,
I thought it was, you know again in first view,

(01:15:31):
you know, pretty pretty good. He was good enough to win,
and he took care the football. And we just have to,
you know, continue to focus on the little things, operation
on forced airs throughout the you know, the offense. The
only thing that really stops us is us you know, offensively,
So continue to do that. Let them enjoy h win

(01:15:53):
on a short week. And like I told him, I'm
excited about we're nine and two. I'm excited that I
don't have to see him till one.

Speaker 19 (01:15:59):
Day Williams went out, looked like he came back, gave
it a go. Was it a situation where in a
different situation than maybe he could have Maybe.

Speaker 12 (01:16:08):
Maybe I made it just a decision that it felt like,
you know, we should probably just start treating that thing
and get ahead of it and see where he's at
here tomorrow, in the next couple of days, and you know,
try to weigh again he wanted to to try to
go and you know, say, he's out here standing with
me when guys are coming in and he's excited for him.

(01:16:28):
So I appreciate his leadership, but I just made a
decision that I felt like was best for the team
and that that, you know, for his instance.

Speaker 6 (01:16:37):
What strikes you about this fan base.

Speaker 12 (01:16:40):
Well, I think they're passionate. I think that they have
high expectations. I think that they are they're loyal, and
I think they're knowledgeable. I think they understand what it
is that they should be seeing. I think they, like
I said, we've got to give him reasons to cheer
and be excited.

Speaker 6 (01:16:59):
So yeah, I mean I think we've done that.

Speaker 12 (01:17:00):
I think that we've and they've in return have given
us a great atmosphere to play in front of What.

Speaker 8 (01:17:08):
Are your thoughts on Travon Henderson and what he's brought
the team.

Speaker 12 (01:17:13):
I would say the best. You know, a couple of
runs he had were there late in the game when
it's tough sledding and we're in five minutes and they
know we're going to run and they're blitz in and
everything else, and looked like we were going to be short,
and he's able to the knife through there and keep
his pads down and pick up a huge first down.
So he's executed, you know, whether that's a checkdown or

(01:17:34):
to touchdown in the back of the end zone. And
you know, no home runs tonight, but I thought he
grinded out pretty much what was there. It's always you know,
helped us a lot of ways tonight. And saw the
pile push touchdown, which was really cool. And so I'm
happy every time that you know, guys can help us
and they can get into the end zone and Christian

(01:17:56):
Barmore and finally get the sack that he's been looking for.

Speaker 6 (01:17:59):
And he's had a lot of ushers and he's been.

Speaker 12 (01:18:00):
Back there, and you know, they work, they work really hard.

Speaker 6 (01:18:04):
And then they I want him to to all have success.

Speaker 21 (01:18:08):
Last question, Uh, the Jets came in with one of
the best return units in the league.

Speaker 10 (01:18:13):
What were you able to see on the initial viewing
that allowed you to slow them down and contain them?

Speaker 12 (01:18:17):
Well, well, I thought we got off blocks. They didn't
give him a lot of space. You know, as schooler
got a triple team one time and went down there
and made to play.

Speaker 6 (01:18:28):
We punted.

Speaker 12 (01:18:28):
Well, you know, the gunners did a nice job, but
you're right, you know, they have a really good return unit.
I thought our kickoff coverage took a lot of pride
and I think we've done a really good job of
covering kicks and so that was a good challenge and
they stood up to it.

Speaker 6 (01:18:45):
That's a good unit.

Speaker 12 (01:18:46):
And uh, I was excited to watching, you know, bring
some energy to the sidelines. I told you, if everybody's
going to get up off the bench, we better give
him something to cheer about.

Speaker 6 (01:18:54):
So thank you guys. Have a good weekend.

Speaker 9 (01:18:59):
Yeah, very think he means that. I think he does.
By the way, what's that have a good weekend?

Speaker 24 (01:19:03):
Oh yeah, I don't think he's just saying that.

Speaker 5 (01:19:08):
Why wouldn't he mean it?

Speaker 9 (01:19:09):
Okay, maybe I'm just os.

Speaker 4 (01:19:13):
Just because just because we used to have a coat.
Never acknowledged that.

Speaker 5 (01:19:20):
But if you tell someone to have a good weekend,
so a little.

Speaker 24 (01:19:28):
Post game nerdiness that it might only just interest me.
But it was all out of order tonight because you know,
the Amazon postgame show, it's a big show, by the way,
for those that were around here, you know, they come
in very very heavy, and they had a big post
game show, and they had Mike and Drake mayon and
there was probably I don't know a couple of hundred

(01:19:50):
people that were in the North End zone cheering them.

Speaker 9 (01:19:52):
On, yelling Rabel Rabelerable and m v P and stuff
like that.

Speaker 24 (01:19:56):
Those guys have a little bit of fun with it,
but that threw off their general post game kind of
order to everything. So he came in liked it a
little bit breathing heavy because he was out there.

Speaker 7 (01:20:08):
I asked, why did it seem like he just played
in the game.

Speaker 9 (01:20:11):
Yeah, I understand a little inside base.

Speaker 5 (01:20:14):
I think he sounded and rightly so, very satisfied probably
with where they are right now. When he started answering
and he was talking about the Tampa stuff, I was like,
don't do the bill thing like the old woe was me,
like we had to play on the road, like and
then none of that. It's like we're able to get focused,

(01:20:36):
you know, focus on that game while having this game
in the back of your mind. Really happy with the
way that they prepared. I like the way he answered that.
I thought he was going in a different direction at first,
and I sort of think think he took a quick
right turn. And I think he's really really happy with
the way that they've been able to each week be
ready to go. They haven't laid an egg yet, probably

(01:20:57):
since the opener.

Speaker 7 (01:20:58):
Yeah, And I appreciate his tone because it's not overly enthusiastic.
I think we've noticed the last few weeks that despite
winter loss, he's trying to maintain that even keel mentality
because it's reflecting in the locker room too. They understand that, yes,
we can enjoy these wins, but there's still a lot
of more work left to do in this season. And
he's like he's.

Speaker 4 (01:21:17):
He's genuinely happy for his players. Yes, and they know that.

Speaker 7 (01:21:20):
He WAPs everyone up after the game and every player
that says a.

Speaker 24 (01:21:24):
Lot, you know, where he's not even keel my opinion. Yeah,
so what was the final play that put it out
of reach? A Henderson run where they got a first
down and so that they could take a knee. As
soon as that's in the bag, headset off down the
line to everybody, big smile, ear to ear. So they
go into the tunnel and which is his thing to do,

(01:21:44):
congratulates everybody, not just the players but the staff. That's
where he's and then he's got an unbelievable ability after
all that to bring it down to the media and
just yes, good game.

Speaker 9 (01:21:54):
I'm really proud like you guys, and yeah, I think.

Speaker 3 (01:21:56):
That's really interesting.

Speaker 24 (01:21:58):
So that was a coach that's here for players, and
you might be surprised at the late edition player that
we had at the end, maybe not surprised at what
he has to say. A little teas for you there.

Speaker 25 (01:22:07):
Yeah, I think just a quick turn around. The goal
of these Thursday night just come up with a win,
and that's what happened. Things were looked back on, you know,
could have didn't have much time to prepare for some
things that I could. You look back at myself and
you know which I had plays back. But at end
of the day, it's probably these guys for the effort
the win, and that's the best thing about Thursday night.
You get a weekend to catch up on some some

(01:22:28):
rest and some uh heel up, but fell His fans
were awesome, you know. I think it was pretty sweet
for the prime time game here for my first one
at home. Pretty sweet. And then uh yes, I'd be
one a couple of games in a row.

Speaker 19 (01:22:39):
Now that we've heard the the m v P chance
for Drake, just as a teammate, what's your reaction when
you heard.

Speaker 21 (01:22:45):
Us, Shoot, he's my MVP man. I I love him
to death as a player, obviously, I love him to
death as a person. He's my guy. I'll go to
bat for him, you know, wherever you know he wants.
I love competing with him, love playing with him, and
just loved being on this team with him.

Speaker 6 (01:23:06):
Very proud of the guys.

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
Short week, we knew what it was, get recovered, get
moved on to the.

Speaker 12 (01:23:12):
Jets, and I thought we had great focus.

Speaker 6 (01:23:15):
All week and it showed tonight, Tray.

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
Because anything surprised you about your personal success, this team
success during this run surprised you that you didn't know
about yourself, and also as you start toneel the playoffs here,
what are the top things that you're looking on improving?

Speaker 3 (01:23:30):
Nothing easy to surprise me.

Speaker 25 (01:23:31):
When you put the work in and we've got good
players and good coaches, you know you're gonna get a
result that you want. And obviously there's this results this
season that you know, some losses and you build from
that and learn from it and try to learn that
every week. And uh, you know, I think were enjoy
the weekend and get ready for you know, next one
on Sunday.

Speaker 6 (01:23:48):
I think I think it's since he since he Yeah,
so just trying to say one week at a time.

Speaker 11 (01:23:52):
You just play at an elite level right now. Uh,
you know, biased, but I think he's best player in
the NFL.

Speaker 6 (01:24:03):
Uh.

Speaker 11 (01:24:03):
You know, there's no game that we're out of and
we have him. Uh, and you know, he's just even
though how good of a player is, he's an even
better person and an even better teammate. So that just
makes it that much more cool, uh, to you know,
be able to share the huddle in the locker room.
Uh and be friends with somebody like that. Uh. And

(01:24:26):
you know, I just you know, look forward to the
future and just continue to play with him and grow
with them, and as we all continue to grow in
this offense. And you know, he's got everything in front
of him and I'm super excited to be.

Speaker 7 (01:24:41):
A part of my favorite By the way, so team Campbell,
that's excite Patriot fans.

Speaker 24 (01:24:50):
I think you got a quarterback who's twenty three years old,
first round pick, a tackle go to Celtics games together.

Speaker 7 (01:24:58):
Yeah, it's beautiful.

Speaker 3 (01:24:59):
That's that odes well for the future.

Speaker 9 (01:25:01):
That bodes well for the future.

Speaker 4 (01:25:03):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 7 (01:25:06):
Anything else standing out to you guys from the post
game sound? I mean, everyone obviously very happy Hunter Henry,
that's my guy, MVP of cour If you didn't say that,
I think would be concerned obviously.

Speaker 8 (01:25:15):
Just I think they're all probably excited to get maybe
a day or two off and get away from it
and just kind of catch their breath for a second.

Speaker 5 (01:25:20):
That's my big takeaway. And Releaf, Yeah, you know they
made it.

Speaker 24 (01:25:24):
Yeah, they won the battle of preparation, Paul, wouldn't you
say that was a big thing that Mike said.

Speaker 3 (01:25:28):
They made it to the preparation.

Speaker 5 (01:25:30):
It was important for them, you know, like I don't
like to me the Thursday night games at home or
must wins. They're very rare that the road team wins,
especially as you move on later in the season and
you get tired. So I think you this was this
was a good performance. I know that I sound like
I'm maybe a little bit higher on the performance tonight

(01:25:52):
than most. I don't think that game was ever in doubt,
not for not for a second.

Speaker 3 (01:25:57):
Mike Hint did it one thing that I didn't put
in there.

Speaker 24 (01:25:59):
But I thought it was interesting and I hope that
maybe we take a little deeper dive into it for
the do your job on the Sports Performance team. But
they had a plan, he said, mapped out for every
single guy and what they were going to do this week,
meaning that they didn't want Fred Kirsch to come in
and say, I need a massage. But Morgan Moses was
already on the table that Fred Kirsch knew that this

(01:26:20):
was his time for a massage. Because Morgan Moses is
going to be at this time and they had it
all lined up for everybody on the team.

Speaker 5 (01:26:25):
You're getting a massage, I don't think so hypothetical.

Speaker 3 (01:26:30):
He's the hype man.

Speaker 9 (01:26:31):
The hype man's gotta stay loose.

Speaker 4 (01:26:33):
I definitely want to get on that table.

Speaker 3 (01:26:38):
You deserve it been here. Well.

Speaker 24 (01:26:41):
Campbell actually also said that he was he didn't think
he liked the short turnaround. He goes, I admit it,
I'm a young kid, but I like the short turner,
and he goes. My guess is Morgan Moses probably feels
a little.

Speaker 3 (01:26:51):
Bit different than idea.

Speaker 4 (01:26:52):
The older guys, this is going to be a good
weekend for them. Just I hope, like Christians said, they
do sleep in and they don't you know, some of
these young guys like to then run like, okay, let's
go have a good time, go to.

Speaker 5 (01:27:04):
A college game.

Speaker 26 (01:27:06):
Is on the sidelines, candle ends, but just just relax, yeah,
just do you think part of the theme though coming
up is like they're gonna be the toast of the
NFL over the next three days, Like you're gonna get
a game and you know, the first team.

Speaker 3 (01:27:22):
To win nine games. They did it in front of
everybody right now.

Speaker 8 (01:27:25):
Now, does it become a little bit about managing expectations
and not listening to the hype because Drake.

Speaker 3 (01:27:31):
May m VP.

Speaker 8 (01:27:32):
All these things are going to get louder this weekend
when you have all these pregame shows on Sunday morning
that this is what they're going to be talking about.

Speaker 24 (01:27:38):
It's a different challenge for Mike and the staff. Don't
you think I would have guessed that by the way
back in July that they're gonna have to temper expectations
after eleven and all, you know, and.

Speaker 8 (01:27:47):
Tell the players, Hey, everything you hear this weekend, don't
don't necessarily buy into it there.

Speaker 7 (01:27:51):
First Sunday where they can actually be home and watch
those games too, and hear everything that's been said over
the last few.

Speaker 4 (01:27:56):
Weeks, and you know, be smart, make good decisions.

Speaker 3 (01:27:58):
Yeah, I mean the other part of it was tell
I always.

Speaker 4 (01:28:01):
Tell the story. I always tell the story. When Belichick
was coaching the Browns, he was good friends with Will
McDonough from the Globe and uh, it was the buye Uh,
I guess the bye was earlier or something like that.
And so, no, it wasn't it was it was right
it was right after. Yeah, it was right after Mini camp.
So it was in the summer, and Bill invited McDonough

(01:28:24):
over it in Nantucket to play golf. So they're teeing
off and Bill's, you know, addressing the ball and he's
about about to hit it, steps back and just starts
like mcdonne's like, Bill, what's what's the matter? It's like,
no matter what you tell him, you know they're going
to go out and get in trouble, like you know,
you never know, and he's just that's all he could

(01:28:46):
think about with the free time.

Speaker 8 (01:28:49):
The other part of it for me too, is just
maintaining this team energy through a weird few weeks. You're
going to have now schedule a little bit of a
long break till the next game. Then you got a
little bit of a long break again on Monday Night football, right.
Then you've got a bye week where you're going to
get away from it. So it's kind of a sporadic
schedule over the.

Speaker 5 (01:29:07):
Next few weeks.

Speaker 8 (01:29:08):
Can they keep this momentum rolling? I mean in some degree, Yeah,
game every Sunday one o'clock. You know, they really did
a good job this Thursday short turnaround. They were able
to prepare for it. But you know, it's just something
to think about mentally, kind of staying in the mode.

Speaker 4 (01:29:22):
And you know, it just brings me back to seven
when they went on that run, and you know, because
they had so much talent, they made it look easy.
But toward the end of the season. It wasn't easy.
There were a lot of games that were they weren't
all blowouts. Yeah, you know, Dolphins, Green Bay, I think
Philadelphia that that Giants game the last game of the season,

(01:29:45):
and it was a grind. And afterwards when they lost
that game, you know, it came out and they said,
you know we did probably not you know, we probably
did take it. I don't know what. Uh, the pressure pressure,
like we let the pressure get to us. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:30:03):
So just to add to what Mike is talking about
how it's going to be, you know, a little bit
of an odd schedule, it also coincides with the first
stretch on paper of difficult games, like they really they
had the Buffalo game and they had the Tampa game.
They were kind of one offs. Now they have on paper.

(01:30:24):
I'm not telling you any of these teams are like
world beaters, but Cincinnati, the Giants, and then Buffalo Baltimore.
So you have three out of four and I don't
care what Cincinnati's record is. That's a talented day can
board qu That's three out of four where you will
likely be tested. You haven't had that yet, ye, you know,

(01:30:46):
like it's been Buffalo and six weeks later Tampa or
whatever it was. In between those two games. That's it.
You know, in terms of teams that were, you know,
more talented than you you know, these teams either are
less talented or even than the Patriots that you've been
playing week after week. So that's a different.

Speaker 3 (01:31:07):
Challenge and they're going to have to play better.

Speaker 24 (01:31:09):
Paul, Okay, they've won eight straight, that's terrific, but they
haven't especially I think in the last couple of weeks
looked really sharp, and I think this schedule challenge that
they've got coming on, how do they keep sharp when
the competition is going.

Speaker 9 (01:31:25):
To get better. That's going to be the challenge for
the staff.

Speaker 7 (01:31:27):
I think, all right, quickly before we go, let's get
to the few calls we have left. Everyone's happy right now,
Kevin in sanfran.

Speaker 20 (01:31:33):
You're up, Hey, guys, Gal, how are we doing?

Speaker 3 (01:31:37):
Hey?

Speaker 4 (01:31:37):
Good?

Speaker 20 (01:31:39):
No questions, just a couple of comments. Paul actually laid
out earlier in the week about how many of these
games on Thursday nights are very close. So we'll take
the win, good, good finish. I would like to see
them be a little stronger offentually in the second half,
but we'll take the win. One of the things that
was said today one of Paul's shows was that Rabel

(01:32:02):
came to the Patriots because of his love for the team,
et cetera. Felger that it was solely because of Drake May,
and tonight in the postgame show on Prime they asked
him specifically, what was the reason for coming to New
England and he said, without hesitation, Drake May. So we're
gonna have to listen to said that. Rabel did say that, Yeah,

(01:32:24):
so we're gonna have to listen to Felger gloat tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:32:26):
But you don't have to listen to it. You don't have.

Speaker 20 (01:32:32):
So no I will because I'm addicted.

Speaker 5 (01:32:36):
No, and that I don't really see, Like doesn't that
make sense? Like, like I'm deciding between two jobs. One
has nobody at quarterback at the time, they didn't even
have justin fields at the time, and the other has
Drake May and.

Speaker 9 (01:32:53):
The Raiders didn't have anybody at the time.

Speaker 5 (01:32:55):
Those were the only two jobs he was he was
weighing his options, the Jets and the Patriots.

Speaker 24 (01:32:59):
Yeah, but you know, I asked you this week about
the Raiders. Why why wasn't Tim in on that?

Speaker 5 (01:33:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:33:04):
And maybe no quarterback thing. That's maybe he looked at
that as well and said, they don't have anybody.

Speaker 5 (01:33:08):
As far as I know, I don't even know that
he even inquired about the Raiders.

Speaker 4 (01:33:11):
But we never heard that when he was hired.

Speaker 5 (01:33:15):
No, no, but he he mentioned it in his pre
is opening press conference about Drake May and his ability,
and he was asked about May.

Speaker 4 (01:33:23):
I never heard him say I came here because of
Drake mayn.

Speaker 5 (01:33:27):
I never heard him say that. I'm actually, to be honest,
very surprised that he would say that.

Speaker 8 (01:33:33):
And I mean he also said when he came here
for his Hall of Fame induction that it isn't like here,
it isn't like this everywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:33:40):
And that was before Drake May was here. I mean,
I do think there is some nod to you want
it to be here.

Speaker 5 (01:33:45):
I agree, But that said, if Jacoby Brissett was the quarterback,
he'd be he'd be the head coach somewhere else. In
my opinion, I mean.

Speaker 8 (01:33:54):
What like, I mean, how many times we got to
talk about you need a quarterback? They got an uber
talented kids sitting there, like, but.

Speaker 4 (01:34:01):
The reason why I'm kind of interested in this, in
this thing, is because when Rabel took the job, I mean,
we didn't know that Drake May was going to be
this good this year.

Speaker 3 (01:34:14):
All the way to August.

Speaker 5 (01:34:15):
But hearing that, noy, did anybody know that? But no, no,
he didn't. He knew he was talented. He didn't say
he knew he was going to be this good.

Speaker 4 (01:34:23):
Well, I mean he came here because he thought he
had a quarterback.

Speaker 5 (01:34:27):
Yeah, well he had the talents at quarterback. Yes, a
good young quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:34:31):
Not Ryan Tannehill.

Speaker 7 (01:34:35):
I think both things can be true. Yeah, yeah, let's
go to g in North Carolina.

Speaker 5 (01:34:39):
I think Ryan Tannehill played like this for him. Yeah,
he probably said I got a guy that can do that.
I mean Ryan Tannehill had like a one to twenty
two passer rating for a season with when Rabel was
there with Arthur Smith THEFC Championship, he probably looked at
that as I think he's even better than Ryan Tannehill.
I can win with that kind of quarterback.

Speaker 7 (01:34:58):
Yeah, all right in North Carolina, Europe sleeping all right,
and Ivan last, but not Leaf in California.

Speaker 5 (01:35:13):
Hi, I am.

Speaker 27 (01:35:15):
I think you guys are going to need a buye
after tonight.

Speaker 4 (01:35:17):
And we will have.

Speaker 5 (01:35:18):
I'm looking forward to my Red Zone Sunday.

Speaker 27 (01:35:23):
I'm sure you are a.

Speaker 7 (01:35:24):
Live camera of you watching Red Zone.

Speaker 4 (01:35:27):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 27 (01:35:28):
That's a thought.

Speaker 4 (01:35:29):
Thanks for calling. I love.

Speaker 27 (01:35:33):
Love I mean, I'll tell you one of the things
I love about this team is that it's it's it's
really fun and enjoyable to root for. I mean, obviously,
based on Livening we've been through at nine to two,
no one ever anticipated this. I mean, to me, I said,
I think I said it before one of the earlier
times I've called is that I'm enjoying the ride very much.
At the same time, you know, I think the lack

(01:35:55):
of running game and you know, letting offenses just run
down on our throat every single time on the first
series after they're obviously wanting to not let that happen.
I think it's going to come back to bite him.
But in the meantime, the future, not only the present,
but the future is very very bright. I mean, super
super impressed with not only Drake's talent, but just his

(01:36:17):
attitude and how he goes about it, you know, and
how about short arms and his and his demeanor? Right,
how do you how do you like those short arms?
Now there with good old Will Campbell.

Speaker 13 (01:36:27):
Right, We're in a good.

Speaker 27 (01:36:30):
Spot and so it's it's fun. So appreciate the opportunity
to be able to share it with you guys, and
have a great night, all right.

Speaker 4 (01:36:39):
Yeah, I love listening to camera like I love playing
with this guy and part of being part of this
future with you know, growing with him and being I
love it. I love it.

Speaker 7 (01:36:52):
I would die for him and I love it.

Speaker 6 (01:36:57):
All right.

Speaker 7 (01:36:57):
Well, that does it for this edition of the Patriots
Postgame Show. We head into our baby bye, but of
course you can catch all Thepatriots dot Com content here
on a regular basis. For Matt Smith, Paul Parrillo, Mike
do So, and Fred Kirsh. I'm Kwannie Lunis. Have a
great weekend. Baby. Hey, this is Alex.

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