Patriots Unfiltered 10/15: Titans Preview, Vrabel Presser and Reaction, Drake Maye

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Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
I would say that they were lacking some of the
chunk plays. Last couple of games, you're starting to see
some of those chunks. Sorry, ex'es, thank you. I actually
thought he made two good plays.

Speaker 4 (00:28):
I thought you were you were on a good track.

Speaker 5 (00:32):
Stick with.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Yeah, about the fingers, he made a couple of plays.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
The other development is f Chisholm returning kicks. He's just
one step away from getting in there. When Fred is
wearing a cricket sweater, I know we're fully back.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
That's tennis. He's got two sets with Borgne later this afternoon.

Speaker 6 (00:50):
Right, I like overalls. You don't have to wear a belt.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
I just don't. You don't strike me as an overalls guy.

Speaker 6 (00:55):
I got a piece of strong mouth.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
I got to tell you, where's the talk of the
talk of the office.

Speaker 6 (00:59):
Was it talk about this a little bit?

Speaker 3 (01:01):
All right?

Speaker 6 (01:01):
I like Booty. I like him, Oh, but this is
what he does.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
He's like he's and tired of twenty plus catches now
what if there was a real, you know, one of
the best guards available, what would you give up for that?

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Why would the one of the best guards be available for.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
The same reason that Breese Hall might be available because
the team stakes.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
I wouldn't say Reese Hall is one of the best
running back back.

Speaker 6 (01:20):
Okay whatever. This is Patriot's Unfiltered.

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Speaker 2 (01:29):
All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Wednesday here
at Jilette Stadium. The sun's out for the first time
in a waters out. Yeah, we're through with our nor'eastterday. Yeah,
we should have been wearing our rivalry scre yesterday because
that was storm the weather storm.

Speaker 8 (01:46):
Realize how much the storm blue would feed into the
actual weather around here.

Speaker 6 (01:49):
Really, it jives nicely. It does well. Hence the name. Yeah. Anyway,
it's we're here, it's here, we're all back.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Uh, it's Evan, it's Paul, it's me, Deuce, Alex and
Matt Nabooth and we're talking Patriots. As Wednesday has become,
it's turned the page day. We're turning that page to
the Tennessee Titans. And also Mike Rabel will get him
a little later today in the show. They move the
schedules about one twenty five pm. We'll be hearing from

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the head coach live on the show. So that's become
our Wednesday tradition. But obviously, if you guys have any news,
we'll get to that. But we're turning the page to Nashville.
Oh boy, do we have any news.

Speaker 8 (02:31):
No, I don't have any I don't really have any
news about the Patriots. So I think we just continue
to see a lot of excitement from the fan base.

Speaker 6 (02:39):
Yeah, really, everybody is uh.

Speaker 8 (02:41):
I think it's been a long few years before you
had I mean twenty twenty one, you started to get
there was a run. I think they won like six games,
seven games in a row, something like that, and you
know you felt like, oh, the Patriots are back, and
you know, you started talking about playoff seating and all
those kind of things. So I just think it's it's
nice for the fans to be able to have some
positivity right now and have some belief and you know,

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not feel like you're looking at this team like, oh
my god, we are in the wilderness and I don't
know how we're ever going to get out now. It
looks like, you know, Drake may might be the way
out and that's what you need in the league.

Speaker 6 (03:11):
So I like the excitement. He's fired up. You know,
it's a new stats and.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
I'm excited too, But is there anything like in the
back of your mind that's like I gotta just hump
the brakes, as they say on Paul's shows, Like you know,
we're in weeks, you know, six games in, let's just
let's just hold on. I mean, for teams are starting
to get tape on now, this new Patriots team and
what they do and how they're winning, and you know

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how that can affect the future.

Speaker 6 (03:38):
We just don't know. Yeah, I mean, I hear that.

Speaker 8 (03:41):
I mean I don't really feel like I've gotten ahead
of myself, and I think I'm thinking more about next
year and the year after that and the positive vibes
going through that. I still think this is a team
that lacks some depth and has some holes and has
some things that they might not be able to completely
fix until the offseason. But that doesn't mean that they
can't continue to win football game games and you know,

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continue in the right direction and see Drake progress, and
I mean, I think we can all acknowledge that there's
going to be probably a game where they don't play
all that great coming up at some point, you know,
and that's just the way the NFL goes. But just
love the feeling that even when they aren't, when they
don't have their a game, you're starting to feel a
little bit like with Drake and his ability to throw
the ball down the field, it maybe you might not
be out of games. You know, another team gets a

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ten point lead, it's now you might be just one
Drake may throw away from you're only down by three
now hours before ten points felt like, well, we're going
to need a twelve polt a drive to get you know,
a field goal. You know, that's the grind that it
used to feel like. So that's that's how encouraged I am.
But I don't know. I know it's easy for people
to get ahead of themselves and I don't want.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
To bring on that.

Speaker 6 (04:41):
Right, if you want to do it, go for it.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
But I think as fans get ahead of yourself.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
This team is stunk, like three years, let's let's have
fun and like Rabel said, celebrate it.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
Yeah you know, yeah, like yeah, I think that that
was exactly where I was going to go with it.
Like the head coach after the game is saying, we
need to celebrate wins and we need to away winning
in this league. And if you're a fan and you
want to get a little ahead of yourself and start
talking big picture about where this team is headed, and
then go for it. But that doesn't mean you know,
there are still two glaring issues on the team right now,

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and that's the running game in the past defense that
statistically are not very good right now, and so they
still have to fix those things if they're truly going
to go big places this year, like they're going to
have to find a running game and they're going to
have to be a little bit better in past defense
in order to get there. But as a fan, I

(05:34):
think you've earned two back to back four win seasons.
If you want to be excited that they're in this
position now, then then go for it.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Yeah, I mean I feel the same way, And it's
mostly what Mike said about Drake May And I recognize
the flaws of the team, and I also recognize sort of,
you know, the softness of the schedule. So I'm not
getting ahead of myself, but I I do think that
it's the difference for me is that the quarterback is

(06:04):
just getting better and developing in front of us every week,
and that gives you a chance, and you know, you
can be one of those teams that well, you know,
I don't want to ride off Kansas City because they
still got Mahomes and even if he doesn't have anybody
around him, they're still dangerous. And I'm not saying that
Drake May is anywhere near that level yet, but that's

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where I think, you know, we could be looking at
in a couple of years. If he continues to develop
the way he has, you will have a chance. And
then when you get the pieces around him that you're
looking for, you know, you got two young offensive linemen
in place. If those guys pan out, and then you
go like three years ahead, now you have a solid
offensive line right with a solid quarterback. Maybe you drap

(06:48):
you know, maybe Kyle Williams and Trebon Henderson are a
big part of your offense. Then so all of a sudden,
that's how you do it. You know, again, we're getting
a little ahead of ourselves. But the excitement to me
is Drake Manx and I agree, But talking about May.
There's been other quarterbacks in the past that have come
out and they get.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Hot and they get streaky, and you know, even our
friend Brian Hoyer has had streaks in the NFL. But
the difference between those like Steve, but the difference between
like those streaky quarterbacks and Drake May is I think

(07:27):
the talent in Drake May is something that's not streaky.
It's it's real arm talent, it's real mobility, and I
think we're seeing real awareness was you know that he's
learning that as well, and that's not something that goes away.

Speaker 9 (07:43):
You know.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
I think that's the difference between May and a lot
of you know, Paul's quarterbacks of the past. Well, you
you were big fans of all those quarterbacks like Steve
de Bergh and.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
You know, yes de Burgh was a journeyman jag. But
I do think that there's the difference is, yes, you
can see the talent, you know, coming out, but you're right,
there's been this guys that have been talented and you know,
they flashed and then George you know, team you know,
teams sort of got a book on them and then

(08:17):
they sort of level off. You know, when when you
start doing things, and you have success doing things, and
then they make adjustments to the things that you're doing.
What are your adjustments to the adjust Yeah. Absolutely, It's
not not a finished product by any means. But I
just look at the talent and uh and I'm very
excited about that. You know, Mike mentioned, you know, one thing,
So I'll play the other side because you look like

(08:38):
you're looking for someone to be like a little Debbie down.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Or so, well, I'll play my role.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
I mean that's what I do. So like I and
I haven't like studied this, but like, so they're foreign
to The two games they lost are the only two
games that they've trailed by more than a score, right,
So it's.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
Supposed to be playing the other side.

Speaker 6 (08:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
I mean I was intentionally playing Debbie down right. So
you know, one of the things that I'm still looking
to see from Drake May is the ability to leave
the team from behind. Right, Like they were down two
scores to the Raiders, they lost. They were down two
scorers to the Steelers they lost. They did eventually tie
that game, but they lost. Yeah, so you know, I
don't know, is that still something Again, I'm trying to

(09:19):
play Devil's advocate. I think I'm all in on the
Drake made machine, so I'm just trying to play Devil's average.

Speaker 8 (09:24):
I'd lean my Devil's advocate would just be more what
happens when a team's like, we're not going to let
you beat the beat us deep, We're not, We're just
gonna your light box. You want to run on us,
go ahead, and you know what does it look like then?

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Or yeah, I'm gonna I'll continue. What happens when the
other team scores, like, you know, Evan's talking about all
these defensive numbers, but somehow they're only allowing twenty points.
It seems like at some point you can't allow all
these passing yards and you know, do all these things
in the red zone that are that are wrong and
only allow twenty points for all of the offensive success

(09:58):
the Patriots have had. They generally score like between twenty
and twenty five points every game without the punt returns
and the kick returns. So what happens when the other
team scores more than twenty, which it would seem based
on the numbers that Evan has with the DVOA stuff
and down on the bottom five of the league and
a lot of categories. It would seem is coming when

(10:19):
they play a good offense at some point. Yeah, again,
that's another DeBie down.

Speaker 6 (10:24):
I mean, I think I think it's totally to score points,
you need to throw the ball.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
We know the running game needs to work in order
to go to that next level on offense to be
able to come back from two scores late in the game.

Speaker 6 (10:39):
What is the thing on in the passing game that
needs to improve?

Speaker 4 (10:44):
I don't think there isn't.

Speaker 6 (10:45):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
They're in the league in EPA. I don't know how
much better they could really guess.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
The game has been pretty efficient.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
I think that Paul nailed it, Like there are some
trends with the combination of their lack of a running
game and their lack of a pass defense that just
over the course of a seventeen game season that usually
catches up to you, like when you're really one dimensional
offensively and you can't stop the pass defensively, at some point,

(11:11):
like that house of cards comes crumbling down. Now, their
schedule is so easy that it might not fully happen,
but they what might happen is a month from now,
when they played Tampa Bay, they might lose, and it
might not look great because Tampa Bay is a legitimate
contending team in the league that has legitimate weapons on

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offense in an MVP quarterback. And if you play twenty
fifth ranked pass defense against Baker Mayfield, he might score
thirty five, whereas when you pay it against Spencer Ratler,
he still only gets to nineteen. So I think that
those are the things that I would look at of
just where are the possible cracks in the foundation. Are

(11:52):
can they sustain this offensively without a running game? And
are is this their pass defense? Their pass defense going
to be bottom ten in the league by pretty much
every metch So I.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Mean, you're you're saying that I'm going back to the offense.
Now to the passing game, the page's passing game. You're saying,
I don't see anything that down the road another team
might be able to take advantage of and thwart what's
going on here.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
Well, well, I think it's also I think it's the
offensive line, like because if they can't run the ball,
if they do get into a game where they're behind
schedule a lot, like, do does the drop back passing
game like we saw in Week one? Like does the
offensive line start to give up a lot of pressure
because right now, when you're on schedule and you're head
of the chains, you can dress plays up, you can

(12:43):
move the pocket, you can play action, you can double team,
and like they're holding it together. But I don't think
their line has played exceptionally well. I think that it's
all combination of a lot of things. I think that
their scheme is really good. I think the line is better.
I think Drake may has been great under pressure. Like,
so at some point does that fall?

Speaker 6 (13:07):
You know?

Speaker 3 (13:07):
But that was what like when you said what could
they do better in the passing game? And Evan answered,
I'm not really sure there is anything they could do better.
That's one answer to the question. Then you kind of
change it to something I think is relevant. The fear
would be what happens when they stop playing at an
exceptionally high level in the passing game because it's hard
to do that for seventeen games. Yeah, like they their

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efficiency in the passing game is through the roof. And again,
what happens when some teams maybe they do what Mike
says and they stop with the single high and they
just say, you know, like you know, let's just make
sure that we start covering these guys and they take
some stuff away from them, it's going to run three right,
if they want to run, and if they want to
let them run. But we're not going to let Drake

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may kill us.

Speaker 6 (13:50):
But what about production on first and second down?

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Because they I mean they're converting a lot of really
you know they have been third down playing right.

Speaker 6 (13:59):
That's the way to live sometimes way to live.

Speaker 8 (14:01):
I mean, I think that's a good way to put
a lot of it. It's just like Tevin's point, when's
it going to catch up with you? We'll say this
week I thought positive development. If you'd asked me this
question last week, Well, what happens when they take digs
out or digs only has a few catches? And you
know they showed last week that they're willing to go
to booty and that they can find Douglas downfield. Those
things I think have to continue though, because I still
think teams are going to continue to key off of
digs and feel like he's the guy to have it. Guy,

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we got to figure out a way and the big
moments take him out.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Does may have his BANKI that one that Scarnekia says
every quarterback needs a.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Little big spots. It's digs. We've seen like third and
fourth down, it's digs. Even in this game when he
only had three catches, one of them was the fourth down,
was a big play in the second.

Speaker 8 (14:40):
Henry's not far behind him though. I mean there's a
couple of throws that he's made the Hunter Henry, that's
kind of like, I trust you, buddy, I'm gunning it
down there and I know you're gonna come down with it. So,
I mean, I think that's a good thing to have.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Is to he has that with Booty too, that like
that's just the trust different. It's different, man, But I'm
talking about like that. I think it's digs to me.

Speaker 9 (14:57):
To me, the the the.

Speaker 6 (15:00):
Banky guy is a volume guy. That's that's kind of
my impression of it.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah, it doesn't have to be, I guess, but that's
the one that's where I feel more comfortable.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Many more, I mean than everybody else. I mean, they
spread twelve more catches than anybody else.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
But yeah, I would say, I mean my fourth down
in the game on Sunday, where did he go?

Speaker 6 (15:20):
So are you comfortable with him being the banking Yeah?

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Yeah, I mean the volume guy is what he's been
the last few years.

Speaker 6 (15:26):
Yeah, the ability to get open quick and I mean
trying to lead you.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Down the road to chisl You won't go there, there,
will I will not go there, Une player.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
I didn't see that one coming in.

Speaker 6 (15:40):
But I do feel good about that.

Speaker 8 (15:41):
I mean, it's uh, you know, I think last week
was just a good step forward in terms of the
secondary receivers and just it has to continue though, can't
just be a one off. And I just i'd like
to see, like I said yesterday, everybody stay involved. Not now.
Booty has five catches this week, and you know, I
just i'd like to see it spread around just a
tiny bit more. But I think they're doing really, I mean,
what else could you say?

Speaker 3 (16:00):
I don't know, I know what you're saying. I'm not
saying you're wrong. I mean that's kind of what we were.

Speaker 9 (16:05):
We were.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
It was ingrained in us with Brady because like I've
never been a big oh oh, nine different guys caught passes.
What I like about this is it's not one guy
every week. It seems to be a different guy yest weeks. Yep,
So I don't care that one guy catches seven and
the next guy's like two. That doesn't bother me. But
if it was only one guy and then you worry.
But what happens if that one guy's eliminated, then you

(16:27):
get like nineteen ninety nine Patriots, it's all Ben Coates
because everybody else is hurt. And then you take Hotes
out and just got nowhere to go.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
Yeah, that's the most encouraging thing about the Saints game
was like Diggs had the huge game in Buffalo, really
had a huge game against Carolina too, And New Orleans
probably came into this game and said, we got to
take out Stefan Diggs. They did kind of and then
Kishon Boody goes off. And like the fact that you
have other receivers like Pop and Booty that have huge
games like tells you that they get.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Different guy too, Like and I know that one of
them was a little bit abnormal with Stevenson in Miami,
but like, Booty has now been the guy twice, and
Diggs has been the guy twice, and Henry was the
guy in which game the Carolina game, Pittsburgh game.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
One of those games Carolina had two touchdowns.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
Yeah, you know, so I like that aspect that doesn't
have to be the same guy, yep. But I also
don't need it to be like, you know, eight guys
just for the sake of like, you know, Brady was
great at that, but that was Brady, Like, that's the
way he did it.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
And it wasn't every game, but there were games where
he would hit everybody, and then some games it was
just you know, Welker and Gronk or Edelman and Gronk.

Speaker 9 (17:36):
You know.

Speaker 6 (17:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (17:37):
The other thing I could say about May that I
love and you you know, brought up guys like Hoyer,
guys that go on a little bit of a bender
like it may always can be able to run, you know,
and just that's such an element that defenses have to
think about every week when they face him. Now, and
it's not just about what we got to take the pass,
you know, we got to take the deep pass away,
we got to take digs away. It's like, even when
you take that stuff away, he still can run, he

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can still get out of the pocket, he can still
make throws, he can make runs, and that you know,
I don't that's just that travels, I guess how I
would put it, It's always going to be an element
there the defenses have to deal with Evan.

Speaker 6 (18:10):
When do we start incorporating more of the option runs
with Drake? Yeah, if at all.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
We talked about that a little bit on Catch twenty
two because we're talking about the run game and like,
could you be a little bit more creative in the
way that they're running the football. I just wonder one,
you know, I think we're slowly learning that maybe he's
more of like a scrambling quarterback than he is like
Lamar Jackson design run quarterback because some of the times

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where he's done some of it, like the meshes and
like getting guys the reeds and the bite, like it
hasn't really looked great.

Speaker 6 (18:48):
Is that because they don't do it enough?

Speaker 4 (18:49):
It could be, It could be, but it hasn't really
looked particularly great. You know, even the play in Buffalo
that you know, he makes the throat of digs falling
down like that's count or bash and he like it.
The play gets blown up like it plays should not
have worked right, So it just there's that element of
it I think that could have come out. Like let's say,

(19:11):
you know, last week, they get stuffed on the goal
to go situation, like do you throw in like a
zone read in there instead of just trying to like
smash into the line of scrimmage and punch the ball
in like instead on first down, is he in the
shotgun and is its zone read and if he the
end bites, he can just kind of waltz into the
end zone, you know, on his zone read. Like maybe

(19:33):
you know, we talked a little bit about, you know,
maybe incorporating some more jet motions or like things to
the get out on the perimeter, because they're having trouble
running the ball through the middle of the field, So
there's some things that they could maybe do schematically to
help out the running game a little bit.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yeah, I hope they don't start incorporating those end to
rounds though, with the wide receivers and stuff.

Speaker 6 (19:56):
Those don't seem to work for us, Yeah, work for
other teams him.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
I think a lot of the I'm more of a
jet motion guy than an end around guy. Yeah, but
a lot of that's window dressing to set up other
things off of those motions. So like, if you show
them the motion, then they have to start respecting the motion,
and now all of a sudden it's a fake off
of the motion and then it kind of opens receivers
up down the field that way. But I hear you
then the rounds to me take a little bit too

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long in the NFL, like that's more of a college thing.
But when it's just jet, when it just right behind
the quarterback and you just hand it off.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yeah, Fred's right, they've tried. There's two wide receivers have
gotten carries and neither one of them was productive. One
for four yards for to Mario Douglas and one for
minus two for Kyle Walliams.

Speaker 9 (20:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (20:38):
I'm going back to last year too, you know.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
Yeah, Yeah, now they have had I think, like summer,
Henderson's kind of off of what with Evan's talking about
some jet action and whatnot. But yeah, it hasn't been great.
And I heard a lot of people talking I think
you would Alex were talking about creativity with the running game.
Maybe try and maybe that might be one way to

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get Henderson out of this sort of pattern where he's
sort of seeking seeking contact, right, you know, if you
get him on the you know, off tackle outside the edges,
maybe you can get a little bit more space for him.

Speaker 9 (21:14):
You know.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
So I don't know what the answer is.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
So one last last thing on the offense going forward
that I was thinking about in my long drive to
work every day.

Speaker 6 (21:22):
Marcus Jones.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
So we've been told that his time will come, you know, someday,
you know, eventually you'll see him on offense. But in
order for him to be successful when he is on
the field, like, do you have to like show him
out there a little bit more so that like the
one time that he's out there, everyone knows, oh he's
out there, we gotta we gotta take him away. You

(21:43):
have to use him a little bit more and not
even give him the ball, but just show him out
there in order for him to eventually be successful.

Speaker 8 (21:51):
Yeah, I think so a little bit. I think it's
like the Matthew Slater thing. Every time Matthew Slater was
out on wide receiver, like all right, he was gonna
block or he's gonna thinking to take a shot to
him save Kyle Williams. How they've used him where early
on they were taking shot out the nickel?

Speaker 10 (22:04):
Right?

Speaker 6 (22:04):
But yeah, I think so.

Speaker 8 (22:05):
I just I wonder, and I love Marcus Jones, and
I you know, I think he might bring an element,
but it like how much is the juice wort to
squeeze with him, like is he that is he gonna
give you that much of a boost on offense that
you know, I know he's good in specific plays, but
like you got to hit it. I just I love
how he's been playing at cornerback. I think he's really
valuable there, and I think he's super valuable as a
punt returner. And I just yes, he would be an

(22:27):
element for the offense, but I don't know if I'm
willing to put that on his plate. Okay, fair enough
risk getting him injured, and you know, can we just
do the same play to Pop Douglas? Is it that
you know much better? Like, I don't know. I mean
it is better, But you do like to.

Speaker 4 (22:39):
Hope that they've kind of evolved past like the we
need Marcus Jones gadget plays to move the ball. But
I the one thing that they haven't done a whole
lot of and Josh is notorious for trick plays, and
they haven't called a ton of trick plays.

Speaker 6 (22:53):
Yet and that is probably like they tried to.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
They've tried a couple, but they just haven't looked right.
We can debate about flea flicker flicker against Buffalo. I
think I got blown up.

Speaker 6 (23:08):
I think might be the one think of the.

Speaker 4 (23:12):
That might be like graduate level of the Josh McDaniels offense.
Like right now they might be saying, hey, let's just
like execute the normal stuff and see how that looks
and then will graduate to that. But Josh McDaniels is
a notorious trick play artist, like double passes, uh, you know,
having receivers throw passes, flee flickers, double reverses, like all

(23:34):
of that kind of stuff is you know, He's always
done some stuff like that. And even with Brady, like
even when they were like Pete Brady offenses did a
lot of trick plays.

Speaker 6 (23:43):
So well, an offensive lineman catch a touchdown this year.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
Well, they've been using Vederian Lowe as the tackle eligible.
And I keep thinking to myself, maybe you know.

Speaker 9 (23:51):
He he.

Speaker 8 (23:55):
He's just the most maligned person, and like I know,
he had a tough year and he's not gonna push
off the one. He's become a punchline, you know, And
I just like to see sometimes when punchline guys get
get an opportunity to do something good.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
All right, That's all I got. You know, we can
turn over to the listeners unless there's something else you
want to put on the table.

Speaker 6 (24:14):
I mean, we want to talk about the Titans at
all because I mean last.

Speaker 9 (24:17):
Week, I.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
May tell you, well, I'm glad you brought that up
because on one of Paul's shows, it's a TV show,
last night, they were talking about the new the interim.

Speaker 6 (24:30):
Head coach bump. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
Yeah, and I have numbers for it.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Four out of the five or three out of the
four people on the panel said they're buying into. Yes,
the Titans will get a bump, not saying that they'll
win the game because of it, but they'll play better
because of the interim head coach.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
Are you the numbers would back that up.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Yeah, I think you do get a bump, and I
think it's real. But I don't think this will matter.
But yeah, that's how I got to feel too. I
don't know.

Speaker 8 (24:54):
I mean, Mike McCoy is going to be the interim coach,
and I read something today saying that maybe he'll he'll
kind of let cam Ward loose a little bit, which
I mean a rookie quarterback that can be a good
thing or a bad thing. But I know, I looked
at the Raiders and you have like Antonio Pierce, who
sitting there, who's like a player, and it's so easy
for players to be like, let's rally around a former

(25:15):
player and you know, we're gonna smoke cigars, and you know,
he kind of like let the they was that the
inmates were on the asylum, it felt like a little
bit and so I think, I don't know if I
see that, like with Mike McCoy, who's a little bit
of older guy and it's been around a little I
just I don't know, I don't know what the dynamics
are like in that locker room for that team to
rally around him. But they've been really bad. They haven't
done a lot really well, and it's just it's hard

(25:35):
to suddenly now we got a new coach and everything's
gonna be okay. I it's a little bit of a
stretch for me because even like, you know, just sticking
with the Raiders example, if they had talent, like they
had Max Crosby, they had you know guys that were good. Yeah,
I mean Anta Adams so yeah, Josh Jacobs too. So
I just I don't see the talent right there right
now with Tennessee.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
But those are the trends right, Like if you if
you're trying to find a way for this game to
be competitive, it's the interim head coach bomb, and it's
three straight road games. Like other than that, like the
on paper there's this is not not a matchup that
you can see the Titans winning, but if you know they.

Speaker 6 (26:09):
Do get that bump.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
Now, I kind of feel like Rabel going back to
Tennessee kind of washes out and Durham bump because this
game has so much extra motivation.

Speaker 8 (26:18):
Like Jeffy just looking across the side, because like.

Speaker 4 (26:23):
Normally it's because like there's a firelight under the team,
everybody's unnotice okay, but like now you're getting Rabel coming
back for the first game as a head coach against
his old team. It's also like Harab Landry's coming back
stretches coming back like the whole Like everybody that was
with Mike Rabel and Tennessee is going back there after

(26:44):
they got cleaned out, you know, two years ago. So
like to me, there's plenty of motivation on the Patriots side.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
To bat off sets it. I think every nails it.
But I just had some quick numbers that I'll give you,
and this is from Sports Insights uh per per our
Action Action Labs database. Thirty eight teams have fired their
coach during the regular season since two thousand and three.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
It's a lot eight.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
Those teams have gone seventeen and twenty one straight up
and twenty two and sixteen against the spread. In the
first game at forty four point seven percent straight up
win rate might not look great, but those teams had
a one hundred, two hundred and fifty six and three record,
which is twenty eight percent prior to the head coaching change.

(27:30):
So forty four point seven percent win percentage after only
winning twenty eight percent is a bump. Yeah, So that
is legitimate. And then the same thing for the against
the spread. You know, you go to twenty two and
sixteen against the spread when you were one hundred and
thirty two and two twenty one thirty seven percent. So
I think Evan nails it. I think that it gets

(27:51):
a little offset by the motivation factor with Brabil and
all of his Tennessee guys that are going back there,
But I would expect Tennessee to play a little bit
better than they would have.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
It, So looking at it that the other way with
you know, the other team looking across the field and
seeing Vrabel and it's like, oh, man, I remember that game, Paul,
when we were playing the Jets and Parcels was the
head coach of the Jets, and we lost that game
in the Meadowlands, and you know, the Patriots team was

(28:21):
so pissed off after the game, they smashed the soda
machine that was in the visiting locker room. Was like
had a glass door and somebody put their fist through
it and just they wrecked the visiting locker room. And
I remember Lawyer Malloy after the game saying, you know,
we look across the field and we see, you know,
our old coach. You know, we wish we had they have,

(28:43):
but we wish.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
I remember that, and and I think it's kind of
similar because I think at the time when Parcels left,
there were some veterans on the Patriots team that probably
weren't all that disappointed, and then it took a year
for them to say, hmm, yeah, I kind of wish
we had him back. Maybe he is better than we thought.
And I think it's the same thing in Tennessee. I
think that there was some veterans that weren't overly disappointed

(29:06):
to see Rabel go and they're probably looking at what
Rabel's doing.

Speaker 6 (29:09):
Now.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
Then we went four and nineteen after we fired Vrabel,
and now Rabel's got the Patriots at four and two.
Maybe we miss them a little more than we thought.

Speaker 8 (29:20):
Do you think it's a like a psychological thing for
a player that when the head coach is gone, who's
been holding you know, the discipline over you or trying
to get you, and like when that's kind of removed,
and yes, the new guy comes in, but you just
feel the sense of you don't really feel responsible anymore,
like you can just kind of cut it loose and
play and whatever happens. It's like, you know what, we
know that this regime is going to completely change anyway,
So if I do go out and make a mistake,

(29:41):
what does it matter. I'm just going to go out there,
play hard, see what happens. Yeah, I think I think there's.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Examples of that working positively and then negatively as well.
But yeah, I think sometimes that does happen and players
play looser, play better, but that doesn't always last long,
you know.

Speaker 8 (29:59):
That's why I think I.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
Just wonder, is it like that they're playing looser or
are they playing hyper focus because they're on notice, Like
the coach just got fired, so now every like your
job is now also equally as on the line. Like
to your point about them coming in and changing regimes,
now their GM isn't going to change in Tennessee, they
just hired them.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
How the team view the coach that got fired, If
they really liked the coach that got fired, I think
there's an amount of guilt that you feel like he
got fired because we suck.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
Those are probably the losses.

Speaker 6 (30:34):
Yeah, But then if it's a coach the team didn't
like that, then it works the other way. Every situation
is a little bit.

Speaker 8 (30:43):
Sorry, Josh, I continued on the road with Evan, because
I think it's interesting, you know, an interim coach, Like
what kind of.

Speaker 6 (30:50):
Game plan is he gonna install?

Speaker 8 (30:51):
You know, like, yes, I hear you're saying, but I'm
also wondering, like is he going to come in and
be like, look, these are the things we did well,
We're not going to over complicate for this for you guys,
Like you know, we're still figure out how this is
all gonna work. Let's just do a B and C
and you know, like maybe there's an element of that
too in the game plan. That just simplifies it for
them that they're like, I'm gonna play fast, I'm gonna
you know.

Speaker 6 (31:10):
And I don't know. It's yeah, no, it's a player.
I'd be interesting.

Speaker 4 (31:13):
It's definitely fair. But like you know, we always talk
about too, like normally when you fire, like a disciplinary coach,
you hire like you know, so they went from Rabel
to a tight pants guy and Bill Kallen or younger Callahan, right, yeah,
Brian Callahan. We all wanted to bring up Bill Callahan too,
which is why I was in my head. But yeah,
and so like you know, sometimes the grass isn't always greener,

(31:36):
Like Rabel is probably a little bit more of a
hard ass, maybe a little harder to play for than
a guy like Brian Callahan. But then Brian Callahan comes
in and he doesn't have his crap together and therefore
and nineteen in two years, but him, you know, and
his father both leaving.

Speaker 8 (31:50):
Significant is significant.

Speaker 4 (31:52):
Like that's like it's you know, Scoutland, it's Callahan, it's Scarneckia.
In terms of offensive line coaches in the history of
the league, like those guys are held in extremely high
regard so you know that's his father. Bill Callahan, was
their offensive line coach. He resigned because sim got fired.
So now they have not only a new head coach

(32:13):
who is running their offense, by the way, but they
also have a new offensive line coach this week too,
or an assistant that's getting promoted to head offensive line coach.
So that that is not an insignificant thing.

Speaker 8 (32:25):
Il se deflating just to have you know, one of
the greatest offensive line coaches of all time. And yeah,
and we're losing him too now this week, like today
they get ready, that guy's not in the room anymore.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Right, So aside from what aside from the things the
Patriots would do bad to lose this game, what can
Tennessee do? Well, what do we have to worry about?
How can they win this game because of things they're doing.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
Jeffery Simmons Jeffery Simmons is the best defensive tackle in football.
There's playing like it right this year. So he's first
in the league in pressures, first in the league and
win ray like, he's just having a phenomenal season. So
he he's a game record that could single handedly kind
of take over stretches of the game if you let
them so. But like you look at the offense, I mean,

(33:12):
like Tony Pollard's fine, and if they can still run
block without Callahan, then like they could kind of run
the ball. But that's really it.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
We talked about those stats defensively for the Patriots that
Evan talked about. Offensively for the Titans, they're like between
thirty and thirty two and a number of categories. It's
amazing just how they haven't done anything well offensively. But
you ask what could they do? And all of a sudden,
you have an outlier game on your hand. Forgetting about
the turnovers. Obviously you turn the ball over. You whatever

(33:43):
you do, what Arizona did, you're going to give them.

Speaker 6 (33:45):
I don't want to tell about what the Patriots could
do bad?

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Right, well, protect cam Ward and then all of a
sudden cam Wood has one of those because we've seen
it in like pockets of play where he shows ability. Yeah,
but it hasn't been anything resembling consistency. He's kind of
leaning back. I read, you know, a pretty in depth
piece about the Titans dysfunction yesterday, and you know, one

(34:07):
of the things that they talked about was how good
he's been in terms of his preparation, his commitment, a
guy they really feel excited about building around, but still
a young guy falling on some bad mechanics at times,
leaning back on throws, taking holding the ball, taking too
many sacks. Right, so he's been sacked twenty five times,

(34:27):
which I believe is the most in the league. What
if the offensive line just has one of these You know,
I know that Bill Callahan is gone, but like, what
if they just say, you know what, like what Evan
said earlier, we got one of the best offensive line
coaches in the history of the game, Like he had
to resign because of us. You know what if they
just turn around and say, you know what's let's focus.

(34:50):
One of the things in the piece that I read yesterday,
it was by Michael Silver, if anyone's interested in reading
from the on the Athletic, he had an anecdote from
practice the week leading into the Raiders game last week.
It was like ten plays go by and Jeffrey Simmons
just stopped practice to call out the tackle JC Latham,

(35:12):
the right tackle who had just come back from an injury,
and he basically said, you know what you're doing, that's
not enough. Like this we're you're not getting enough from you?
What are you doing? Like calling out his work habits,
so like there's a level of dysfunction.

Speaker 6 (35:24):
There in front of the whole team in front.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
Yeah, you know, and this is a respected you know,
like Kevin said, maybe the best defensive tackle in football
was calling out a young offensive tackle who supposedly has talent.
He's a first round pick, top ten pick, you know,
and he's in year what two and he's getting his
practice habits. Called him to question what if that causes
him to look in the mirror and say, I got

(35:46):
to focus this week, I got to come with a
different attitude. Like just to answer your questions, what could
the Titans do differently? Yep, Well they could show up
with a little bit more professionalism and play a brand
of NFL football. And if that happens, I say this
all the time. The gap between these teams, the good
ones and the bad ones isn't that big in that league.
Like if you allow the other team to play well,

(36:09):
like the Saints played well. I think the Saints played
really well in that game the other day, and that's
why the game was close. I think the Patriots played well,
but the Saints played well too, and that's why the
game was closed. You're not that much better than anyone
in that league because it's kind of built that way.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
It's built for parody, and that's why, you know, I know,
you know, I'm not going to give away any secrets,
but I'm sure we're all expecting the Patriots to win
on Sunday. But it's not going to be as easy
as people. I mean, yes, we have to win. Now,
three road games in a row, never been done in
Patriot's history before in the regular season, so that's going

(36:47):
to have to happen.

Speaker 6 (36:48):
You might get this interim coach bump.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
You know, there's a lot of things that could happen
that we have a disappointing game on Sunday.

Speaker 6 (36:57):
I don't think it will happen, but don't be if
it does. This is the NFL.

Speaker 4 (37:02):
But those are the things that need to happen, I'm sure.
But they have a bunch of players on their roster
that are going to terrify us.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
This is this is like the Calvin Ridley situation, even
like the one like truly game breaking kind of has
a hamstring problem.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
Like like this is like, you know, the Titans could
win this game with the power of friendship. That that's
like what I'm hearing, Like.

Speaker 10 (37:26):
Like if they like just believe, if they just like
rally around friendship, if they rally around their interim coach,
they come with more professionalism and they play, you know,
they they play with more energy.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
Like none of this is like, oh wow, like how
are the Patriots going to defend X, Y and Z.
It's like it's like, if they have this raw, raw game,
then yes, the Titans could like behind.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
Your whole bad play by the Patriots angle. I do
not see this game being overly competitive. I think I
think the Patriots right now will really rolling. But I
do not dismiss the possibility that what you're talking about
third straight road game, maybe they just don't have it
in this game. You know, maybe they turn it over
twice in the first half and all of a sudden, Yeah,

(38:12):
you know, you haven't done these things for the last
couple of.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Weeks, but you do a trap game then last week.
If last week was a trap game at all.

Speaker 8 (38:20):
I'm gonna say no. I'm going to say no, just
because I just don't think they have that.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
I don't think that they're there yet. And I also
don't see the team. Like, to me, a trap game
is like you're coming off Buffalo and you're looking ahead
to Baltimore. Yeah, but like you're looking ahead the Cleveland.

Speaker 6 (38:33):
Right like I don't know.

Speaker 8 (38:35):
There's just An Evan, and Evan said it. It's not
just Rabel and Harold Landry. There's a number of coaches
that are going to be extremely locked in this week,
and I think that message will distribute throughout the whole
team and you'll get it.

Speaker 6 (38:46):
You'll get a team coming to play for the coaches
this week. All right?

Speaker 2 (38:49):
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Speaker 6 (39:04):
I just love it. The engagement, the enthusiasm, I mean,
why not. The reason why you know, it's.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
It's Wednesday at noon and you probably have to work
or do other things, but here you are listening to us.

Speaker 6 (39:17):
I appreciate that. So let's get to the phones. We'll
go to.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Francisco in North Carolina. Hey Francisco, Hey.

Speaker 11 (39:28):
Guys, tell y'all doing good?

Speaker 3 (39:29):
Hey, all right, all right.

Speaker 11 (39:32):
So first I'll say Evans, sorry for the bad connection
at the end of Catch twenty. Good to go on,
And then to go on is like, yeah, you said
you appreciate you appreciate us for you know, we're at
work and I'm at work, but you don't know how
much listening to this podcast helps me get through work
and just makes work go by. But my question is,

(39:53):
so you know what the bills losing in us jumping
in the first for the AFAST is do you think
there's you or I don't know if the right word
is urgency or like or I guess likelihood that will
make a splash play? And the second part is if
we do is the way the receiver's im playing, is
that leading to a decrease in likelihood that that splash

(40:14):
play would be or splash trade would be a receiver?

Speaker 6 (40:16):
Thank you guys, All right, thanks Francisco, Back to work.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
I do think there's an element of are we ahead
of schedule? And maybe looking around at the AFC and
the division and it's like, why can't be wed be
the Washington commanders of this year?

Speaker 6 (40:35):
Right?

Speaker 4 (40:36):
And so I do think that that exists. Now that's
a slippery slope because if you get too aggressive at
the deadline and kind of give away a big asset
and it doesn't work out. Yeah, not the cross sports,
but like this happens with the Bruins like two years ago,
you know, like where they went all in on a
season and that it Yeah, they'll lose in the first round.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
So do we all agree that if you do make
a move at the deadline or you know before, it's
not for a rental, it's for someone who would be
part of the team at least for next year as well.
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (41:09):
I kind of evolved my thinking on this right now
ever since ever since Drake's been bawling. I just I
just want to give him everything you possibly can. And
had this been you know, felt like, oh, it's we're
still a couple of years away, I might up a third.

Speaker 6 (41:23):
Round pick for this person. Well is that worth a rental?

Speaker 9 (41:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (41:26):
But I mean, if you really, if you got a
shot at the division and you know.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
You really know what you're can make to know, I mean,
I find it hard to believe that you you would
do that like that it will be a rental for
that that high of a price. But would we all
be in agreement that we expect them to be active
and at the deadline, and.

Speaker 6 (41:46):
They said they always are.

Speaker 4 (41:47):
Some of the reporting is that there's this could be
like an MLB style trade deadline where there's going to
be a lot of.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
And I heard, I heard chefty. You know, there were
eighteen trades last year. I think there were fourteen the
year before and eighteen the year before that. So the
trade deadline has sort of picked up, like not how
you sneakily become a little bit more relevant in football.
I think the move back helped that a little bit.
It's it used to be like after week six, which

(42:12):
I think was too early. Now I think it's after
week nine or something like that.

Speaker 4 (42:15):
I don't know, and it's the end of the month.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
It's more of the middle of the season, which I
think is a good move by the league. I would
be surprised if they're not active, like they don't make
a move and I just I got to think you
had a running back.

Speaker 8 (42:28):
Yeah, right, that's the obvious one. But then also, you know,
what do the injuries look like over the next couple
of weeks. Because we've said it all along, their depth
isn't great. I think they're pretty good top line guys.
But if there is another injury, i'd put that atop
the list as well.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
You know, play that's another one that can affect your mindset,
Like we don't want to talk about it. So I'm
not going to mention any specific names. But if you
had a couple of injuries and they were important ones,
maybe instead of being super aggressive at the deadline, ya,
well yeah, you know, maybe maybe we back a little bit.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
Right November fourth, so after the Falcons game.

Speaker 6 (43:01):
Yeah, okay, let's see what Randy in Providence has to say. Randy, Hey,
good afternoon, guys.

Speaker 5 (43:10):
Hey, so I got a couple ideas for trade targets,
and then I had a question about the offensive line.
So just quick names. I guess Amani Hooker the safety
in Tennessee at his best year. I think under Vrabel.
Decent coverage guy, twenty seven years old. Tariq Woolan, still

(43:30):
pretty young, six' four defensive Back seattle struggled this, year but,
Yeah i'm thinking maybe covering big slots and tight. Ends Ethan,
POCIC i think his name is a six, six three
twenty pounds center In. Cleveland the six thousand career snaps
only twenty, penalties and then those are the trade. Targets

(43:53):
and then so the question about the offensive, LINE i
saw a tweet From Doug kayad that said the truth
offensive line was ranked like fourth BY, pff and SO
i was looking at THE pff stuff and they've only
got the offensive line giving up two sacks. TOTAL i could.
SEE i, mean he's been. Sacked may has been sacked eighteen.

(44:15):
Times i'm not sure who gave up the other sixty
and according to THE, Pff.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
May EVIDENTLY i.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
Mean Chris long came out today on social and said
no MORE pff. Grades he, Said.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
I've heard a lot of a lot of comments like
that from, players specifically former, players current.

Speaker 6 (44:31):
Players we've been saying it for.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
Years on THIS i heard two guys bickering about next
gen IN pff and some clip THAT i heard on
one of my shows On. MONDAY i just think it's.
Funny it's Like nerd Or nerd. Crime i'm here for you.

Speaker 4 (44:45):
Gotta be you gotta be careful with the. Grades the
grades are. Numbers the grades are you, know take it
or leave? It you know their system like, no you
gotta be careful with.

Speaker 6 (44:58):
It doesn't matter what their system is unless they actually.

Speaker 4 (45:01):
Know what EVERY i, mean but yes and, no Like
Mike vrabel doesn't know what all The titans are supposed
to be doing on every single. Play he doesn't have the,
playbook he doesn't know the, scheme like he doesn't, know
but they still evaluate the players like so like it
JUST i would.

Speaker 6 (45:17):
Put probably knows better than the people doing it FOR pffl.

Speaker 4 (45:20):
Of, course but like all THE nfl teams are doing
the same, thing like in free. Agency like it's not
like The patriots knew exactly the scheme That Milton williams
was running in exactly his assignment on every single, play
but they still have a grade on the player in
an evaluation on the player now the grades are LIKE
i don't really touch the grades too. OFTEN i don't

(45:43):
really feel the need. To but most of their tracking
data is pretty solid now in terms of the offensive
line with the pass, protection, uh you know a lot
of their sacks have been on, backs tight ends and
Then drake himself running into. PRESSURE i don't know if
it's sick sixteen of the, eighteen, right but a lot
that is definitely. True we've talked about.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
IT i also would say that there have been countless
times that there's been very quick pressure coming by alignment
And drake has avoided. It you, KNOW i think of
The buffalo game, specifically and you can The patriots offensive
line is vastly improved from last. Year let's just sort

(46:29):
of all agree on. That and you, know is it
better than The eagles now or The? Lions, Like i'm
not willing to say, that BUT i only there's some
sites out there that, are you, know have fun with.

Speaker 12 (46:40):
IT i.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
DON'T i think They've they've worked really hard to go
from one of the worst in, football so now it's
not really a huge. Issue sort of a middle of
the pack group in my mind's, eye WHICH i think
is a huge step. Forward now get, better continue to
get better some.

Speaker 4 (46:57):
Of the past protection, metrics like they're top five in
the league in some of, them And i'm, like.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
Like it's watching every week AND i just don't see.

Speaker 4 (47:05):
That, yeah, Yeah SO i agree with you there to
the trade, TARGETS i would Love Amani, hooker but he
just signed a contract extension with The titans last offseason
AND i just don't see them trading. Him he would
be a great, addition BUT i don't see that. Happen
pocic is like kind of like a journeyman center slash
guard that's played a lot of, football and to the caller's,

(47:27):
point but that's NOT i don't think that he's like
a needle moving edition by any. Means hooker would be
a great, addition BUT i don't Think tennessee is gonna.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
DEAL i had a guy, today you, KNOW i THINK
i brought Up Trey, hendrickson, yeah, yesterday as an edge
rusher that you, know who knows.

Speaker 6 (47:45):
What you're making.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
Him, YEAH i mean, no that's a. Splash someone said
something about potential guys that could be. Available Arden key
is an edge rusher that you will see On Sunday
titans obviously going to be in cell mode for. Anybody you.
Know he's Not Pray, hendrickson you, know that's not the
same caliber, guy but he's a veteran guy who's had

(48:10):
some production in the. League could give you some depth
Behind landry And chas AND i. WOULDN'T i, MEAN i
don't think that would break the bank. TOO i just
like the cire.

Speaker 8 (48:19):
BECAUSE i think that's a Position Harold lanry got hurt last.
Week for a, SECOND i was, like oh, boy this
would be. Huge initially it looked like that uckie he came,
BACK i. DON'T i, MEAN i mean he tore a cl,
and BUT i guess it was twenty. One he missed
the twenty two, seasons SO i, mean you know he's had,
issues BUT i mean you just haven't really seen. ANYTHING i,
Mean white And jennings had both been, hurt so you

(48:40):
don't have any real depth right. NOW i don't know
how much did did what's his face the rookie even
play last. WEEK i mean they're just kind of going
by with those, two you, know and that's a tough
way to live at a really important. Position do you
remember in like twenty four, Eight, yeah he had a great.

Speaker 6 (48:55):
Game, yeah, yeah he had a lot of.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
Pressures see that's another example of What i'm talking. About
LIKE i don't think he even had a, sack BUT
i thought he. Had he had good, pressure and one
of the pressures led to a holding call that wiped
out a big play for them that would have been
inside the five on a third that led to a
red zone. Stop so, YEAH i.

Speaker 8 (49:12):
Feel Like chason is just living his best life where they're,
like just go get the, quarterback. Bro that's all you
got to, do like just go get, him like he's
just off the ball every single, snap getting after.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
It BUT i thought that was one of his better games,
though BECAUSE i haven't really noticed him as much AS
i did in this.

Speaker 6 (49:25):
GAME i felt like a little bit like the summer when.

Speaker 4 (49:26):
He was mini home coming for, him going back.

Speaker 6 (49:29):
To anthony's In. Seattle, Hey anthony was doing. Good, hey,
hey real.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Good.

Speaker 13 (49:36):
Hey SO i KNOW i called yesterday it was, all you,
Know sunshina, rainbows BUT i chose not to comment on the.
OFFICIATING i was going to do that, today but you,
know just being on hold and listen to you guys,
talk you kind of turned the. PAGE i don't want.
TO i want to ruin, it SO i will. Digress
BUT i JUST i do think it's it's telling just
you know how egregious it was that it's not even

(49:56):
a situation that all of the officials cost us the.
Game we won the game and we're still. PISSED i think.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
That's patriot football one on. One, Yeah but, ANYWAY i
agree with every.

Speaker 14 (50:07):
GAME i had a.

Speaker 13 (50:10):
Question this might be An evan, thing but you guys
were talking a little bit about the defense and how
they play one way Against buffalo and they played a
different way against The. Saints AND i remember going back
to the beginning of the, Season, uh you, know they
were kind of keeping a lid on it about the
type of defense they're going to, play and you guys
kind of felt like they were going to be kind
of their own. Thing have you guys seen. That are
they like kind of are they really? Multiple are they

(50:32):
a little bit different defense than than like the rest
of any like conventional style of defenses that you've seen
around the. League AND i mean it's SO i would
you agree that that's kind of a good thing if you, if,
like let's, say because they're gonna play some important games
right down in you, know in late in the season
and possibly playoffs and when postseason that's when game planning
is like at its very very best across the. League

(50:54):
AND i think it's makes it tough if they can't
really if you don't really declare and they can't, say,
well this team they played, this they played kind of
defense where you can kind of do a lot of.
Things but so ALL i, got, thanks that's.

Speaker 4 (51:03):
Thanks, YEAH i think they have done a lot AND
i don't know if that's a positive or. NEGATIVE i
think sometimes they've done a lot and that can go
the other way, too but they've done things very differently
than what we're used to have seen used to seeing around,
Here like With. Belichick they they stopped to run, differently

(51:24):
they pressure, differently they come off the ball, Differently so
they are a very different scheme than what we're used
to seeing around. Here so that's been. Fun it's been
fun to kind of learn. It it's been fun to
watch them play. It AND i would just add, that you,
know like last, week like the game plans have not
been particularly. GREAT i think they've adjusted and they've settled

(51:46):
down really well, defensively but first play of the, game
you send a corner blitz and you give up a
fifty three yrd. BOMB i wouldn't say that that's really
like a good, prep you. Know, like SO i think
that they could do better in that. Regard for, sure,
starts they need to start.

Speaker 8 (51:59):
Better we talked about the safety positions really being a
lot different than how they used to use, it although
there's still a lot on those safety players. Position BUT
i think there are elements of The belichickian game plan
defense of spinning between going zone and man and they've
been you, know they've definitely been a heavy man team
as far as the, league but not afraid, to you,
know Against, miami just play a ton of. Zone BUT

(52:20):
i think some of those things are and it reminds
me a. LITTLE i MEAN i haven't pointed out some
really good, differences but just the, Ability LIKE i was
just about to bring up twenty, fourteen when you, Know
Chandler jones And Rob nikovitch played almost every snap the
whole season, Long like those are your two defensive. Ends
they could, drop they could, go you, know and they
didn't really have to change their packages a. Lot and
that's like one THING i kind of like about this

(52:40):
defense is like they're not getting crazy with joint. Substitutions
it's really you, know splains out there every. Snap you'll
have a rotation for the defensive line, guys but they
really have their core group of guys that they essentially
run out. There SO i do think there are, elements
But evans right with a lot of scheme stuff IS i,
mean it's been really fun for me to watch just
a totally different approach where you, know we taught it

(53:01):
last week we were there talking To Scott, booker the safety's.
Coaching you, Know evan's asking him about setting the edge
and how different it is than What belichick's defense. Asked
and SO i think it's an adjustment too for people
like me who are trying to watch and, analyze, like all,
right Did Chase on just blow the edge right?

Speaker 6 (53:15):
There or was that by?

Speaker 8 (53:16):
Design and they're okay with that because he's going to
get in there and disrupt the. Play so it's very different.
Philosophy but there are game. Plans michaels In. Michigan it's, Up.

Speaker 14 (53:25):
Michael, hey you, guys how's it going?

Speaker 6 (53:27):
Good, Illo.

Speaker 14 (53:28):
Michael i'm not a guy to get ahead of myself too,
much but you guys really got me hyped up in
the beginning of the. Show So i'm looking at the,
schedule looking and when maybe even hosting a playoff game
or something like, that but just getting to the playoffs
is the first. Step i'm thinking, defense trade options on,
defense if we can get a difference, Maker i'd say

(53:50):
edge cover, guy maybe a guy Like Keevon thibodeaux From New.
York you get another edge guy in there With landry
that really helps the coverage guys and all. That, oh
what do you guys think about. THAT i know you
guys talked About Martin Keith hendrickson would be a great.
Option but maybe a guy Like. Sibodo thanks for having.

Speaker 6 (54:09):
Me, On Thanks mike. LISTEN i, mean whenever you can
get to the quarterback's.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Good but the pressure rate has been. Good it's it's the, coverage,
right don't you want To.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
Yeah the pressure has been better than the. Coverage, YES i.

Speaker 4 (54:22):
WOULD i hear like the edge, CONCERNS i just wonder
if maybe that's like a draft pick coming in in
twenty twenty, Six like LIKE i could see them using
a first round pick on an edge, rusher but like
linebacker and. Safety if you really wanted, to like look
at the three weakest positions on the, roster it's running, back,
linebacker and. Safety so if you're trying to add a

(54:44):
player to this team this year to like make the biggest,
difference it's probably at one of those three. Positions that's
like going to move the needle in.

Speaker 8 (54:52):
Season, yeah AND i didn'tmost say To paul's point of
finding like a guy like that who doesn't have to
Be Trey henderson to come in and, start, like BECAUSE
i think.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
They have two pretty good need Some, NO i do,
agree if you're going to rank the, PRIORITIES i agree With,
Evan BUT i just look at how close it looked
like you were going to Lose landry for significant. Time
and now What Now you're, like, literally there's nothing. There
you change the, scheme your money coupper, GUY i mean, absolutely,

(55:19):
linebackers same kind of deal that you Lose, Spallane like
who's filling that?

Speaker 6 (55:23):
Role you, know asire the D he's still In.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
Chicago Roger roger McCrary was another. Name like everybody's looking
at The titans because he plays, obviously you, know and
everybody's looking at you, know these kinds of guys being.
AVAILABLE i bring Up key because Like Keevon, thibodeaux first of,
ALL i don't think there's any way The. GIANTS i,
MEAN i think The giants are building the defense around

(55:47):
those three edge. GUYS i think they got something. Going,
yeah BUT i would absolutely Take. THIBODEAU i think he's
a really talented edge. Rusher but To evan's, point that's
you want to use the first round pick in the
draft next, year or that's what it's going to cost
you to get, them like a high draft.

Speaker 4 (56:03):
PICK i just wonder like if you and, again LIKE
i say the same thing about like A J, brown
if that guy wants to come here and he's, Available
Like i'm not SAYING i wouldn't Take Trey hendrickson or,
whatever but, like now you have two pretty good edge
rushers And Chase on And landry and now if you,
trade like you have to take one of those guys

(56:24):
off the, field right and so, like but if you
trade for a linebacker or safety or a running, back
like you're kind of demoting a guy that's probably not
playing particularly well at one of those positions and make
room for. HIM i think the same thing is throughout wide,
Receiver like if you go trade for like a run
of the like A Crystal, lava, right like who's like
a good player but not great? Player like not, well

(56:44):
Now Keshan boodie's role is is, gone, Right so like
where does that make the most? Sense, like obviously you
take the, talent but if it's all, equal like where
does it make the most sense to add the talent right?
Now not next off?

Speaker 8 (56:57):
Season but in the if you get a guy LIKE Aj,
brown that the receivers that are going to get a
little less playing time might be the, one right, right, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (57:05):
Kendall In North. Carolina one more call then we'll take a. Break, Kendall,
hey what's going?

Speaker 3 (57:11):
On?

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Hey?

Speaker 15 (57:13):
YEAH i want to ask well any of y'all answer
about the game That drake had last year In. TENNESSEE
i know he had two. Intercessions do you have any
AND i take us off, there do you have any
any reason for the first? INNOCEENSE i know the last
one will he tried to force the booty in, overtime
but on what did The titans do that? Game kind
of kind of get off his spot a little, bit thank.

Speaker 4 (57:35):
You, Yeah i'm going to write about this in game
plan like the preview THAT i write about the, game
AND i have a whole breakdown of the game last
year because At fred's questions, earlier like what's Like Dinard
wilson's defense gave him a little problems last? Year he
actually had turned the ball over three times because he
was strip sacked as. Well, so, uh three, turnovers four

(57:58):
turnover worthy plays and full of sacks in that.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
GAME i remember he had a really good day running
the ball, yep.

Speaker 4 (58:04):
Had eight carries for ninety five yards on the. Ground still,
trapped but he had a couple of big time throws
and like you, know obviously the play that got it
into overtime was, insane but, overall like he did not
play particularly. Well they spun the dial on him quite a,
Bit like the first interception, was you, know changing the,
picture you, know start too, high rotate into three and

(58:26):
then the linebacker's dropping out and like all all this
type of. Stuff and so they spun the dial on
him pretty good last. Year and he's grown a lot
in that. Area but that's THAT'S i assume they'll probably
do the same, thing But i'll have it with clips
and stuff like.

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Speaker 12 (01:01:28):
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knowing you can, out you're gonna get after, it and
then you get out for the, game you guess the,
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Speaker 19 (01:01:40):
That, YEAH i think that's kind of WHY i like
to go out there, early even When i'm maybe not
gonna be. Suiting it was just like to get my
mind right to prepare Like i'm going to. Play so
then like when tomorrow like or when the day comes
like it was, YESTERDAY i know That i'm prepared and
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Speaker 18 (01:01:56):
Go and that continues to stick with the Process i've been.

Speaker 12 (01:01:59):
Doing how much quick return experience did you have before
yesterday and when did you find out that you were
going to be getting those?

Speaker 18 (01:02:04):
Duties ye did it a little bit early on in the.
Week that definitely did a little bit of reps in.

Speaker 19 (01:02:09):
College my first couple of years in high school did it,
Too so it wasn't something totally new to. Me i've
done it. Before and then kind of just go out
there and be a ball. Player you, know it's all
football at the end of the, day you, know just
make sure you make good decisions back there and then
try to get the ball back to the.

Speaker 18 (01:02:22):
Offense have The when.

Speaker 6 (01:02:24):
Did it hit you On sunday that you were about
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Speaker 19 (01:02:26):
Nfl probably we walked, IN i, think you, know walking
in the kind of just seeing like the whole environment
and everything was pretty.

Speaker 18 (01:02:34):
Surreal you.

Speaker 19 (01:02:35):
KNOW i feel like the preseason was, awesome you, know
to get those reps and to get my mind right that,
way but then you, know just to kind of get
that opportunity and go out there and help the team.

Speaker 18 (01:02:46):
Any WAY i. Can it was pretty. Special you might
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Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
This but when exactly need to find? Out and who told?

Speaker 19 (01:02:52):
YOU i MEAN i had an idea during the, week
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gonna keep chipping, away keep chipping, away and then Like,
FRIDAY i really found. Out but it was really just
trying to prepare LIKE i was going to be a
starter every.

Speaker 18 (01:03:07):
Week that's kind of HOW.

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I go about.

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It how much did you hear from folks back on.

Speaker 9 (01:03:12):
Early?

Speaker 19 (01:03:13):
Game And i'm so my mom was actually already planned on,
coming so my dad didn't make it just because it
was such a late Late notice HOW i told, them
but you, know it was. Awesome they were at the
house watching the, Game my dad and all his, buddies
my family friends all at the, house so it was pretty.

Speaker 18 (01:03:27):
Special is there anything you didn't expect in the new
kickoff format that they have in THE?

Speaker 9 (01:03:32):
Nfl anything kind of catch you off?

Speaker 19 (01:03:33):
GUARD i, MEAN i think with first getting into like
THE nfl in the, preseason like learning about. It it's
all the different rules and if it lands and the end,
zone you, know you get the ball up towards thirty,
five stuff like, That like that's all. Different you, know
you got to learn those along the. Way but nothing
totally that sticks out that is totally challenging and totally.
Different so, yeah first a little.

Speaker 8 (01:03:55):
Tricky because they kind of hit like a little bit
of a liner the.

Speaker 19 (01:04:00):
Trigger it was LIKE i feel, LIKE i don't, know
he kind of hit like a little dirty. Ball it
was a little sideway spin on. It and then we're
getting close to the end zone, too so you, know
trying to make sure you make that good decision when
when you're back there, too you, know so just kind
of know if, know IF i know it's going to
go in the end, zone letting it go in the
end zone taking me coming off the goal cost just
because you, KNOW i was like a couple of weeks,

(01:04:21):
ago who uh someone did? It was The, STEELERS i,
think you, know the rookie back there let it. Bounce
OBVIOUSLY i know that mine went out of, bounce but he.
Didn't he didn't need. It and then The seahawks went
down there and tried to get. It so shunder everything
what you employed.

Speaker 6 (01:04:35):
There you guys put the second decision to make that.

Speaker 19 (01:04:37):
Kick, yeah we do a good, yeah, yeah we do
a good job during the, week just you, know watching,
film learning what the kicker is going to, do where
they like to kick, it where to line up. At,
so you, Know coach springing a great job helping me
prepare this week to to line me up in a
good spot to make.

Speaker 18 (01:04:56):
The best decisions possible out. There coach the coffee.

Speaker 19 (01:05:01):
Time oh it's been, AWESOME i, think especially early on
in the week WHEN i found OUT i was going
to like start to become doing this as a as
a new role, totally just you, know meeting with.

Speaker 18 (01:05:11):
Him after, practice seeing like what do you think? Here
what do you think?

Speaker 19 (01:05:14):
Here and then he's given me extra things to go,
watch so on the, iPad watching different teams do different,
things just to kind of build my confidence in. Myself
and then he had total belief in, me he told
me a bunch of times this.

Speaker 18 (01:05:24):
Week so it was pretty. Special lining have been working
on in.

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His last couple of, weeks haven't that?

Speaker 18 (01:05:29):
Much you feel like you've?

Speaker 19 (01:05:29):
Grown, YEAH i feel Like i'm you, know growing every,
DAY i think, obviously always working on just my, blocking my,
route running my WHATEVER i can each and every. Day
and then you, know it's such a blessing just to go,
against you, know some of the best guys in The
National Football league every, day you, know being on scout
team with that mean C D Marcus, Jones Christian, gonzalez

(01:05:51):
like all those guys out. There you, know those are
invaluable reps THAT i don't take for granted that just
continue to get better each and every.

Speaker 18 (01:05:58):
Day it's been a challenge at all for.

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You have to, to you, know to not be as
big a contributor offensively as you, know with the course
of your.

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Life i'm sure you used to play a lot offensive,
Football so how difficult maybe has it.

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Been to to kind of buy your?

Speaker 18 (01:06:10):
Time, YEAH i, think you, know every rookie is kind
of navigating.

Speaker 19 (01:06:14):
That BUT i think for, me, like WHATEVER i can
do to help the, team AND i know that sometimes
that's during the, week you, know maybe it's not On,
sundays BUT i Know i'm helping the team ANYWAY i.
Can and definitely just trying to learn learn the ways
of you, know some of the guys have done it
before and their process and how you, know it's not
all going to.

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Happen, overnight SO i kind of just continue to stick
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Named Rocky. Delgadillo, okay, yeah and that's how he pronounced his.

Speaker 6 (01:07:18):
Name did he Say muzzarel?

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Too you believe, me this guy could not have been
anymore off the boat so, Too italians fighting over the.
Language i'm not fighting over the. Language i'm just asking
him both saying you're. Wrong i'm asking him about his,
hipocrisy well nor. Providence why one not the?

Speaker 6 (01:07:35):
OTHER i, mean you don't even know how to pronounce
your own. Name It's. Scalavini, YEAH i love what he.
Does does It's.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
Scalavano, no that's another great moment from.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
All right back here On Pagris UNFILTERED a five to
five pass five hundred is the hotline podcast at pagrites dot.
Com is the email address about one twenty five or,
so we'll be going live To Mike, Rabel so keep keep.

Speaker 6 (01:08:00):
It pay attention for. That in case you're calling, in
we might have to cut you. Off but a lot of,
emails a lot of, Emails, paul why don't you read?

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
Something, Okay jobie, writes and he, says really glad to
hear the sanity and not getting over revved up about
the recent. Success, yes it's been fun to watch and
a source of hope for the. Future but all THIS
mvp talk For may is way too early and a.
Distraction let's all keep in mind that this is yes
a rebuild, year and The patriots may be a bit

(01:08:29):
ahead of. Schedule they still need a competent running, game
help with the, linebackers especially with tight end coverage and.

Speaker 6 (01:08:36):
Depth but it's been more fun this year than it
has been in the last. Six. YEAH i JUST i
don't want this to be the, peak you. KNOW i
don't want it to be like r winning streak and emotionally.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
Bad BUT i hear what he's, saying because two weeks
ago or in The bills, game people this is their signature.

Speaker 6 (01:08:55):
Win i'm, like, WELL i hope. NOT i hope the
signature win is still to.

Speaker 3 (01:08:59):
Come, unfortunately they don't have a schedule that is going
to allow for any win bigger than. That that was
the toughest game on their.

Speaker 6 (01:09:06):
Schedule to get into the playoffs and play The chiefs
and beat. THEM i would think that's a signature.

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
Win that would be another signature. Win you can have
more than.

Speaker 6 (01:09:13):
One they can't be more than. ONE i don't win six.

Speaker 8 (01:09:16):
TITLES i think if the division was still on the,
line and you Beat buffalo at home again for a second,
time that that might be more.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
Seen that would be a signature win, also or even
if you, know but it won't be won't be tougher
than winning At.

Speaker 8 (01:09:27):
Buffalo If Lamar latrell is back after that and you
go down there and, there maybe it depends on what
their record a little. FRISKY i don't. Know i'm just
look At jets In miami to finish the. Season it's
hard to say that either one of those are going
to be a signature.

Speaker 9 (01:09:39):
WIN i like that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
Email one part THAT i would. Like i'm not interested
in your distraction nonsense like, That like these guys are
human distract that's not like our job is to talk
about what's going, on not to distract or not. Distract but,
like the WHOLE mvp thing is legitimate in my in my,
opinion just just my. View, WELL i think they've played six.

(01:10:01):
Games if you think it's silly to talk about who
the v the leading candidate for THE mvp is after six,
GAMES i respect. THAT i kind of would agree with.
YOU i think it's a little early to talk about m.
Vps but if you're going to assess through six, games
who the best players have been in some, order It's
drake May Baker, Mayfield Hohoka, Nakua LIKE i, DON'T i

(01:10:27):
mean name some Other those are the guys that have
played consistently the best through six. Games now it is
early because a lot can change over the next eleven,
games BUT i don't think it's will be talking About Drake.
Man we were talking About Jayden daniels last. Year he
was a rookie and.

Speaker 8 (01:10:46):
To, me like THE mvp looking at somebody doing it
with arguably one of the bottom three run games in
the whole, League like that SAYS mvp to, me that
says my.

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
View he's basically been the entire day of the. Offense
he's put the team on his back the last couple of, weeks.

Speaker 8 (01:11:01):
And Then Baker mayfield's like receiver, injuries HE'S i, mean
that third down run he had last week was. Crazy
SO i, mean you know it's, Not, Yes Baker mayfield
has weapons and better around, him but he's still continued
to he.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
Does have, weapons but they've been out right. Right that's
that's like the whole. Thing and just look at the
way that they've won the games at the, End he's
come through with these plays when the game's on the
line like. THAT i watched That monday night game that
they won In houston earlier in the. Season it was
just amazing that last, drive how many plays he made
on his.

Speaker 8 (01:11:30):
OWN i DON'T i don't shy away from THE mvp
talk right now within this, moment BECAUSE i, MEAN i
think it's going to be asking a lot for him
to continue to play at the level he's been, at,
because Like sevan, silly what else can he?

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
Do like think it's more fair to say instead will
he be THE? Mvp but it is fair to say
is he playing at AN mvp? Level and the answers,
yes is he AN mvp candidate to me is fair, yes, yes,
Yeah travis And West. Virginia why isn't the legal shift
a dead ball? Foul that would make it less. ANNOYING
i Understand paul's complain of up procedural, penalties BUT i

(01:12:01):
think the players deserve more blame than the. Refs is
it really that hard to remember to come?

Speaker 3 (01:12:06):
Set also that that's absolutely, valid that's a that's a good.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
Email, also when it's your, birthday do you walk around
saying today's my birthday Like Pat nagawam.

Speaker 6 (01:12:15):
DOES i don't know any grown men who draw attention
to their own. BIRTHDAY i.

Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
DON'T i would largely agree with any. Mail, yeah like
almost any age like that seems to be more something
That i'm not trying to be like, stereotypical but like
it seems to be. Something women are interested in birthdays
a lot more than.

Speaker 6 (01:12:35):
MEN i feel like it's something they don't want us
to talk about their.

Speaker 8 (01:12:38):
Age, no so it's SOMETHING i respect about you. GUYS
i remember like working here at some point and like
somebody was, like, Yeah fret's birthday was.

Speaker 6 (01:12:44):
Yesterday Like.

Speaker 3 (01:12:46):
I've never seen anyone acknowledge their. Birthday YES i, know
and you, too because yours In. June, Right, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:12:54):
I'm like this we got like just, upstairs.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
We don't talk about celebrating birthdays to become this new
thing now and like you, know every day somebody's walking
into my, office can you sign this?

Speaker 6 (01:13:04):
Car and like we got another one of these you
know people.

Speaker 3 (01:13:07):
Get, well we have one downstairs, too is like THE
vp of. Birthdays, yeah she's, great which is good because
you know everybody knows like like yeah for, me excuse
get some.

Speaker 8 (01:13:17):
Cookies, Okay i'd.

Speaker 6 (01:13:19):
Rather not be the subject have a LITTLE.

Speaker 3 (01:13:21):
Diapepsi i'm.

Speaker 6 (01:13:22):
Good, YEAH i don't.

Speaker 8 (01:13:24):
Know at a certain, age you're just like, bro no more.

Speaker 6 (01:13:26):
DIET i ain't got no more birthdays to.

Speaker 8 (01:13:28):
Celebrate these are just ticking.

Speaker 6 (01:13:29):
Away twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
One twenty one was the last ONE i. CELEBRATED i think.

Speaker 8 (01:13:33):
Thirty was like the last like kind of. Celebration and
THEN i was, like oh, Boy.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
Jordan writes in uh he says he's the most Boring
patriots fan of the.

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
World oh.

Speaker 6 (01:13:42):
Graduation well, no but at least he has a moniker
like for.

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
Something it Is, jordan you have to.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
Remember, YEAH i JUST i just have one take today
that has been stuck in my. Mind i'm rewatching The
office for the forty fifth, time and that made me
think to, myself who would THE pu crew represent bestest
characters in the.

Speaker 6 (01:13:58):
Show so here's might. Take deuce likes these Do Fred
Eagles Michael.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
Scott the one is pretty. Obvious he's the boss. Man
he brings the jokes and wacky. Takes also a major
vibes guy who doesn't take himself. Seriously Paul Is, stanley,
again pretty obvious. Choice he's the, grouchy snarky man who
has the side comments in the grunts and strong. Opinions
evan Is. Oscar evan plays a similar role in the
show To. Oscar in the, show the statistical nerd is

(01:14:26):
emblematic of the accounting uppity.

Speaker 6 (01:14:28):
Nerd mike Is. Ryan mike reminds me Of ryan the.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
Most for his claims of being the defensive, guy even
though he rarely knows what he's talking, about similar to
How ryan is.

Speaker 6 (01:14:38):
Always full of. It oh that took a turn A
mike doesn't like. That alex Is. Pam easy choice.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
Here pam is the girl locked in an office surrounded
by a bunch of crazy characters and shines through as.

Speaker 6 (01:14:51):
One of the more level headed. Characters so there you.

Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
Go no Anti pam, stance isn't? That evan strong on,
That BUT i found that BECAUSE i was not a huge.
Office i've seen it, obviously But i'm not well versed
on the. OFFICE a lot of people don't Like. Pam oh, yeah,
YEAH i got that.

Speaker 6 (01:15:12):
Vibe.

Speaker 3 (01:15:13):
YEAH i Like jim, THOUGH i mean we have no
that what you is that what you were looking?

Speaker 8 (01:15:17):
For?

Speaker 6 (01:15:18):
Yeah he Wanted, No, no nobody Wants kim's. Boring kim's.
BORING i, mean was the Street man? Right you?

Speaker 8 (01:15:23):
KNOW i THOUGH i think one Is fred isn't as
un self aware As Michael scott. Was like he'll like,
knowing but he'll knowingly leave and lean into some of
that stuff when you know when the.

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
Movie, SURE i don't know which which one Is stanley
the one THAT i was attached. TO i don't, know
LIKE i don't know the characters that.

Speaker 6 (01:15:42):
That, well he's the black guy and he's cranky all the.

Speaker 3 (01:15:45):
Time and he has snarky, yeah oh, yeah he's always
getting forced into do and.

Speaker 6 (01:15:48):
Stuff i'm Not i'm not doing.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
That remember when they played basketball downstairs in the uh
and the way he was dribbling and.

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
They were making fun of him Because blacky was so.

Speaker 6 (01:15:59):
Funny.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
Uh noah In toronto writes in here are my two
ideas for improving the run. Game one Bench Jared wilson
For Ben brown or trade for a veteran guard on
a bad Team Joe patonio Or Kevin. Ziegler two more
RPOs on early downs and More reid options on critical
short yardage.

Speaker 8 (01:16:20):
Situations, Yeah i've heard some of The brown stuff with
rab will be in there last. YEAR i JUST i,
mean if The giants, start you, know, MIDDLE i, MEAN
i don't know if they'll continue on, this but you,
Know cowden was with The giants last. Year i'm just
trying to think of other connections that they have with
some other teams that might give them some inside info
or you, know some guys that they. Like BUT i
get The cleveland stuff With rabel but because he was

(01:16:41):
with the offensive line, TOO i don't. KNOW i just
this goes to the point, of Like i'd like to
lean into the young. Kids i'd like to Let Jared
wilson make some mistakes and Let Will, campbell you, know
make those, mistakes and you know.

Speaker 3 (01:16:52):
Not i'm not opposed To Ben, brown like if, that
if that's a switch that you want to, Make i'm
not necessarily looking to give up re sources to bring
in like A Joel, buttonio who was clearly an. Upgrade
but now that's going to caush you. Something AND i
don't know what the situation With cleveland. Is, like not
every bad team is looking to unload all their good.
Players some. ARE i Think tennessee might be one of,

(01:17:15):
them BECAUSE i think they might be just you, know
they have a first year gm uh and my Boy
Mike bergonzi From. Everett he might be looking to sort
of put his stamp on the roster and figure out
who's going to be part of the future and who.
Isn't SO i think that's, it you, know The, Zeitler Kevin.
ZEITLER i mean that that might make some.

Speaker 6 (01:17:34):
SENSE i could have.

Speaker 8 (01:17:35):
Been what was what Was Ed helms's name in the.
Office that could have been, him you, Know, Sandy, Andy,
yeah you know. SINGING i like to.

Speaker 6 (01:17:43):
SING i like and we had Enough, dwights.

Speaker 8 (01:17:45):
Dwights we got some dwights here, though they just they're
not on.

Speaker 6 (01:17:48):
Air oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
Uh one particular.

Speaker 6 (01:17:54):
Department, okay let's See matt and wich a.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
TITHE i think maybe the greatest strength Of Tom brady's
game was his ability to feel the rush while looking
downfield and knowing where it when.

Speaker 6 (01:18:05):
To step up or where to step.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
Up other qbs seemed to never figure this, out and
their physical traits carry them through their career without ever
developing great pocket pressure. Presence how does this seem That
drake may have seemed to improve so much in this
regard in just a few. Weeks The pittsburgh, game it
seemed like he had no idea where the pressure was
coming from without looking right at. It sunday versus The,
saints there were multiple plays where he stepped up at

(01:18:29):
the perfect time and ripped the ball forward with both.
Hands maybe there's a bit of luck or positive, variance
but the development under a short period of time From
drake this season is. UNBELIEVABLE i was looking at some
of his footworks against The saint in like close, quarters
like the footwork was was.

Speaker 6 (01:18:47):
Flawless it was.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
Unbelievable and wasn't that like supposed to be his weakness
coming into the last.

Speaker 6 (01:18:56):
AND i think it.

Speaker 8 (01:18:57):
WAS i think it was week one that there was
a break. DOWN i think Jto selam might have done
it on week, one and just same issues from last
year With drake with drifting into pressure was the, buzzword
and that's exactly what stood out to me was just you,
know all of a, sudden he's like buying himself, Time
he's subtle. SHIFT i honestly didn't know if it was.
POSSIBLE i didn't know if that's just kind of an innate.

(01:19:18):
Thing but for him to progress, THAT i, mean that's.
Great email it's one of the most underrated.

Speaker 3 (01:19:23):
Things and just to give you a little peek behind the,
curtain we had a little little interaction With evan yesterday
With Brian, hoyer and he wanted to talk about the you,
know the two hands in the ball. Thing it's, like you,
know sort of you rip it. Through it's like a
basketball thing where you kind of rip through with two
hands on the, ball strong on the. Ball and that's
what a lot of quarterbacks like to do in the

(01:19:46):
pocket under pressure because obviously you want to ball security
is at a. Premium And brian was going through some
of the, dropbacks so it's pretty.

Speaker 8 (01:19:54):
Cool he's, LIKE i could only hear, him But brian
hort is, like you, know like What tom used to.
Do it's, like can you just go like and then
you hear, like, oh.

Speaker 3 (01:20:01):
He was actually like some Fu he was actually dropping
and he was like a five step. Drop But drake
is so, tall like sometimes his like five to seven
step drop and would be like he's way up, here
and he's too he's too far. Back you'd have to
climb back in the. Pocket but he's so athletic that
he's able to make it. Work And evan's just it's,
LIKE i gotta go change my. Shorts evan's just looking
at him, like you, Know Chris farley looking At paul,

(01:20:22):
McCarty right right.

Speaker 6 (01:20:23):
Right this is so. Cool he went home and told his, Wife,
oh today was so. Great, brian where who's? That does he? Play?

Speaker 3 (01:20:30):
No well you used?

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
To ethan, Says i'm not going to read the whole,
email but he says That Breese hall posted a free
twenty On.

Speaker 3 (01:20:38):
Instagram, yeah three twenty, twenty and he's a, guy you,
know it's his last year of his. DEAL i, believe
so he could be. Available but you, know obviously you
guys talked about the division part of it maybe complicating.

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
THINGS i was thinking The patriots on the side work
out to deal with another team where they give a
three third round pick for Bres, hall and then we
turn around just before the deadline give that team a
second round pick for Bris hall so they can, say,
well we weren't you, know we got we got a
Second so we decided to move real.

Speaker 6 (01:21:12):
Quickly did we didn't have a deal ahead of? Time that's.

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
Interesting second for Briest, hall that's a little, high little
he's good, running but he's.

Speaker 3 (01:21:24):
Just also a good. Player, YEAH i agree with, You.
Freddy and he can catch the ball, too BUT i don't.
KNOW i think he'd be a.

Speaker 8 (01:21:31):
Rental yeah That Braylan allen's hurt. TOO i think like
there are other big back WHO i really like coming,
out but just he he has a minimal hole on the.

Speaker 6 (01:21:39):
Ball, okay he's on THE I.

Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
R cody, Says pam is. TERRIBLE i have a lot
of these guys that don't Like. Pam they secretly want,
her you.

Speaker 6 (01:21:51):
Know, no he's all.

Speaker 3 (01:21:54):
Right some would, say.

Speaker 2 (01:22:00):
Do we know any women in the office that are
like the blonde in the. Office oh you, know she
was like the real oh, yeah, yeah, yeah the cat.
Lady yeah, no not the cat, well not the older,
one the Young it was, blonde but she's like really
mean to.

Speaker 6 (01:22:14):
Everybody her Name's.

Speaker 7 (01:22:15):
Angela.

Speaker 6 (01:22:16):
Angela, yeah she was a cat.

Speaker 7 (01:22:18):
Lady we used to have a woman work upstairs that
was exactly like. Her her name Was. NICOLE i don't
know if you remember.

Speaker 3 (01:22:25):
Her oh, yeah, YEAH i know what you're talking. About
lots of lots of trade.

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
THINGS i don't want to get into all that because
we were already you, know talking about it's all the
same Names hendrickson and.

Speaker 3 (01:22:39):
Yeah as long as if there's some new, Names i'd be.
Interested but if they're the same names that we're talking, About,
yeah we're basically interested in any and all of these.

Speaker 8 (01:22:45):
Options where aren't we? LOOKING i, MEAN i, mean is
it BECAUSE i hate this? Stuff there's like a THOUSAND
nfl players out, there and who they're going to trade for?

Speaker 3 (01:22:53):
Him, like, well that's the, thing you, Know i'm trying
to you, know LIKE i, SAID i read something before
the show today that have had some some options that
could be, available you, know And i'm trying to come
up with various players THAT i think their teams for whatever,
reason could be looking to move on, from you, know
as opposed to just all the best, teams all the

(01:23:13):
best players in the, league and the best teams are
just going to give them to.

Speaker 8 (01:23:16):
You, yeah you, know it's like best players on the worst.
Teams you're trying to like back.

Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
To the phones eight five to, Five pats five hundred
and don't forget any minute, now we're going to be
going a vrabel as soon as he comes, Up SO
i might have to cut you. Off But todd's On North.
Carolina what uh he? Said you know What i'm not
even gonna bother with the chance of being cut. Off
i'm just gonna cut myself.

Speaker 18 (01:23:38):
Off.

Speaker 6 (01:23:39):
Uh dan is In. Daytona what's, Up?

Speaker 20 (01:23:41):
Dan, hey how're we, going? Guys i'll be, quick real.
Quick the two, TAKES i, think what do you guys
think about bringing a guy like who was Like mike
McDaniels was before he became a head. Coach he was
working With Kayla stanahan with the run. GAME i really
think that they should bring in somebody who has proved
not saying That josh can't do it In Thomas, brown

(01:24:03):
but they've been focusing primarily on the passing. Game so
having somebody who's strictly a run game coordinator who can
actually come up with good schemes and fits for the.
Players they have to get the offensive linement looking better
than they what than what they actually. Are and then
the other take, is what do you what do you
think the the issue is with the with the stopping

(01:24:30):
the pass on the. Defense i'm seeing too many issues this.
SEASON i just wanted to see your guys.

Speaker 6 (01:24:34):
Mistakes, okay Thanks.

Speaker 3 (01:24:36):
DAN i didn't really catch the last part the run game.
COORDINATOR i Heard Ted johnson talking about this yesterday a
little bit On andy's show ON. EEI i don't. Know
they have like three offensive line. Coaches they have multiple
you know coaches that are you, know position. COORDINATOR i don't.

(01:24:58):
KNOW i think we will a. Compliments they need to
run the ball, better, right the line needs to be.
Better the backs need to do a better job of
maximizing yardage and. OPPORTUNITIES i think the run game needs
to be. Better they should be better than, this, right
they should be you, know it's.

Speaker 6 (01:25:14):
Your nightmare on the. Screen, Poll so what are we talking?
About this kid has.

Speaker 3 (01:25:20):
Gone like totally. Viral i've Never i've never listened to
Playing Explain, Ahead.

Speaker 8 (01:25:24):
Mike there's A i guess some kind Of patriots podcast or.
Something he was doing a live block During douglas' touchdown last,
week and he looks like he's going crazy Against.

Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
Dale.

Speaker 8 (01:25:33):
Hogdale he's in some level.

Speaker 3 (01:25:35):
Marstools Sports HOGDALE i have, like you know, me that's
not my don't. FOLLOW i don't follow.

Speaker 6 (01:25:40):
Barstool sounds like somebody In Harry.

Speaker 3 (01:25:44):
Potter AND i guess he does like full play by
players of Like, reds like The, reds you, Know Red.

Speaker 8 (01:25:49):
SOX i don't think GAMES i Think fred can tell
you more about you're not allowed to do your own
my broadcast at the.

Speaker 3 (01:25:55):
Game aren't you no thoughts written concerns in this?

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
Game well anyone but Sorry adam And Crown, Point. Indiana
what an exciting time for all of. Us this feels
totally different than our last competitive season in twenty twenty.
One are you guys in? Agreement that was a fun,
year but it always seems smoke and. Mirrors that Was
max's first.

Speaker 8 (01:26:17):
YEAR i gotta be, HONEST i was in on that. One,
YEAH i was in on.

Speaker 3 (01:26:21):
IT i DON'T i mean they Were definitely it was
different BECAUSE i think there were some asterisks with the
wins in terms of like personnel that was available for
some of the other. Teams but the asterisk with this
would be you're beating like the dregs of the, league
with the exception Of. Buffalo. Yeah, yeah so, NO i,
MEAN i Think may looks a lot better to me
than Mac jones.

Speaker 6 (01:26:42):
Looked the big. Difference that to me is the.

Speaker 8 (01:26:43):
Difference but at that, point like whereas now you're Saying
may is naturally talented and he's going to elevate the,
team back then you were kind of still believing That
Bill belichick was gonna now he had a full free
agency class and he got that twenty twenty year out
of the.

Speaker 6 (01:26:56):
Way we've. Reset now he's got some real.

Speaker 3 (01:26:59):
Veterans he's great, point you, know it was it was
very free agent centric in twenty. One, yeah this is
pretty free agent centric, Too and sometimes that's a bump
that you, get and you get and you get a
little bit of a lift from and then it sort
of levels off. Again to, me the difference Is Breake, May,
yeah is playing at a level higher Than.

Speaker 2 (01:27:20):
Joe twenty, one it was the almost the exact. Opposite,
yeah they were winning, games but it wasn't because Of Mac.
Jones we were, like like we've talked about it. Before
he didn't throw a ball into the end zone until
week six or something like. That they were micro managing.
Him they're Letting may, play you, know and whether they're

(01:27:42):
letting him play Or may's just taking it on himself
when things break, down there's no way That Mac jones
can do What drake.

Speaker 3 (01:27:49):
Mays But i'm just talking about the team in. General
it kind of feels, similar like you're better because you
brought in better talent than you had last. Year, yeah
like we talked about this all. Offseason you're going to
be better When Harold andre And Robert splaine And Carlton
davis and all these guys you brought in and the Clupon,
Diggs like you you got better back.

Speaker 6 (01:28:08):
THEN i, GUESS i guess we're supposed to have had
good coaching back. Then well you.

Speaker 8 (01:28:11):
SLL i mean you were kind of in the illusion
of thinking that you. Did, STILL i, mean THAT'S i,
mean it was really hard to. Swallow LIKE i, mean you.

Speaker 6 (01:28:19):
Know Because josh was the offensive. Coordinator, YEAH i, mean you,
know you, know and you just and you still.

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
BUT i think they really had handcuffs on Mac, jones
not that he didn't deserve, them but they didn't have
anywhere near the offense.

Speaker 6 (01:28:32):
They had now they. Had they were scoring, points BUT i,
just you, know the feeling we Had paul.

Speaker 1 (01:28:38):
H OH i and then you know THAT i was
never a believer in.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
That and then the second half of the second half
of the season bore that. Out oh, yeah you, know
they went downhill instead of Going.

Speaker 6 (01:28:48):
I'll tell you that's.

Speaker 8 (01:28:50):
Stupid Jonathan taylor looks exactly like he looked in twenty
one when he just. STANDED i, MEAN i mean talk
ABOUT mvp. CANDIDATES i, mean he might be in that
conversation as a running, back but he's running the same.
Way he ran all over The patriots in that, game
and it was all of a, sudden like The house
Of cards disintegrating before your.

Speaker 2 (01:29:06):
Eyes finley And Dundee, scotland, Right, sin what impressed you
most About Drake may's? Performance his pocket, poise his deep,
ball or the fact that he somehow Made paul say
something complimentary before the end of the first, quarter before
the first, Quarter but in all, seriousness he's just pocket pocket.

Speaker 3 (01:29:24):
To mike, like you can make fun of me for
all those other, things but nothing About Drake. MAY i
told you last YEAR i would Take Drake may Over
jayden And. Daniels don't say anything About Drake may And.

Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
Paul my, guy my.

Speaker 3 (01:29:36):
GUY i might be, Wrong i'm not unlike everybody. Else
i'm not taking a victory lap for it based on six. Games,
yeah SO i might be, wrong.

Speaker 6 (01:29:45):
But you're taking a victory lap for being right a year.

Speaker 3 (01:29:47):
Ago, No i'm telling YOU i Wanted Drake may Over Jayden.
DANIELS i know last Year das was AN Mvp. GAY
i know you've always Liked. DRAKE a lot of people
would probably still tell you they'll Take Daydan, Daniels, NOW i,
would that's, Right but that's Why i'm SAYING I i'd be.

Speaker 2 (01:30:02):
Wrong you have to be on your show today THIS
i could be wrong person on that show that exactly
what you're talking, About Big.

Speaker 6 (01:30:08):
Jim he Likes Jaydeon, Daniels.

Speaker 3 (01:30:10):
Oh, yeah but he Likes drake may now. Too because
he had a good game Against. Buffalo that was. It
he's coming house all over from last.

Speaker 6 (01:30:16):
WEEK i, go you're.

Speaker 3 (01:30:18):
Unreal all of a, sudden he's the guy now because
of one.

Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
Game in all, seriousness and To mike's earlier, point after
a few years of, dysfunction it's refreshing to now be
able to look forward to watching this offense Every. Sunday
who says we're spoiled after a twenty year, DYNASTY.

Speaker 3 (01:30:33):
I, Mean, mike the.

Speaker 6 (01:30:34):
Hope it's the. Hope it's the hope that if there
if it's third and, eight it's not. Over there's a
chance they, could you, know, convert.

Speaker 8 (01:30:42):
Just to boil it down in, simplicity like you're getting
to watch a really talented football player every weekend and
roof for, him and he's doing special things and plays
that gets you out of your. SEAT i, mean they're
Just ever since he came here last year as a,
rookie there have been moments you're, like oh my, god
did you see that? Throw, like you, know that wasn't
ever anything we did watch in mac Or bailey Z
appy Or Cam. Newton you, know it was just you

(01:31:05):
can tell how much talent that kid has and it's
it's gonna be fun to be along the ride with.

Speaker 6 (01:31:09):
Him quick trivia question related to The tennessee game.

Speaker 2 (01:31:14):
Excellent during The brady Era Paul brady, era The patriots
lost To tennessee twice in the regular, season the first
Time brady played them IN o two and the last
time he played them in twenty. Eighteen in each, game
The patriots only scored one touchdown and they were rushing.

Speaker 6 (01:31:32):
Touchdowns who were the? Scorers how are You let's go
To Mike vraible six weeks into the.

Speaker 2 (01:31:40):
Season.

Speaker 4 (01:31:43):
How affirming is it for you to be in the
first place in THE Afc east heading Into.

Speaker 9 (01:31:49):
Tennessee, well they're not going to cancel the rest of the,
season and that's not really our. Focus right. Now BUT
i would say that we've done we put ourselves in
a position to play meaningful, games not that they aren't all,
meaningful but certainly focusing on this one on the, road

(01:32:13):
our last one of three. Here but AND i appreciate
us not looking too far. Ahead you, know they just
Attacked buffalo and they figured out what we needed to
do against The, saints and then then we got back
and got, things you, know cleaned up and try to
get some rest and now you, know focusing on On
tennessee and the challenge that that, presents and you, know

(01:32:34):
seeing if we can't continue to you, know enhance the
things that we do well and improve the things that
we're not doing, well and then eliminate the stuff that
could could or will or has gotten this Beat like
what has this.

Speaker 18 (01:32:47):
Team done well for? You?

Speaker 8 (01:32:49):
Physically footfall is like, that but, mentally what's this team
done well for?

Speaker 9 (01:32:54):
YOU i, MEAN i think that they try to come
in with the same approach every week of you, know
what what do we do? Well what do we have
to improve? On, uh they try to learn a new
opponent and try to build a, routine a consistent, routine you,
know try to practice and and really have the have

(01:33:15):
the energy and and the speed required to you, know
not only, improve but to prepare for another opponent that's,
different and you know kind of everybody's been ready to.
Go try to get her to prepare as a starter every,
week no matter who it.

Speaker 21 (01:33:29):
Is like a midstream coaching, change CAN i would, imagine
because a little bit of a certainty as to exactly
how one might purpose things differently from With Brian callan
as the go WHICH i think conceemab.

Speaker 6 (01:33:42):
Leader sometimes the team will get a ball.

Speaker 9 (01:33:44):
From that type Of, YEAH i mean we'll have to
be prepared for. Everything you, know there's a lot of
uh fakes in the history uh with with the with
the coordinator may maybe go for it more on you,
know whatever. SITUATION i just think we all have to
be prepared for whatever that may, be whatever wrinkles the

(01:34:05):
things That mike liked or didn't, like and he's that's
going to be his, prerogative and we'll have to be
prepared for for whatever it is and and try to
execute the keys and try to you, know all the
things that we feel like are important each and every.
Week so there's no way to. Know you can watch
the tape and understand some of the players and the play,
style you, know and however they call the, game they'll

(01:34:29):
they'll call the game quick delivery to be able to
to get it out of his hand and when he.
DECIDES i thought that there's some really good, accuracy some
ball ball placement that allows for good run after catch that,
that you, KNOW i think there's a willingness to stand in.

(01:34:50):
There he's got contact. COURAGE i don't see him staring
at the rush a, lot has the ability to scramble
when when need, be and scramble for first. Out it
doesn't look like he's very. RATTLED i think that his
composure is very good and his demeanor and you, know,
AGAIN i saw a quote from him in preseason that,

(01:35:12):
said you, know he watched his dad get up for
a job at four thirty every morning that he didn't,
like and he figured he could get up that early
for one that he. Did and you, KNOW i think
that that's just so good a reminder for all of
us that that someone that young could could say things that.
Mature so, AGAIN i think that that's a good approach
to his.

Speaker 3 (01:35:31):
Job he goes making some Of Jeffrey simmons this weekend
what was your experience coaching, him and was there any
ways that he made you better as a, coach just
to player that.

Speaker 9 (01:35:38):
Talented and effectly, WELL i mean, YEAH i mean great
players make good. Coaches it really Enjoyed jeffrey. Personally you,
know we've maintained a. Relationship i'm glad that we. Do
playing really, well playing at a high. Level it plays,
Hard he's got great play, demeanor plays a lot of,
snaps but he doesn't you, know the ones that he's

(01:36:00):
in there, for which is a. Lot it's not like
he picks and chooses when he's gonna play. Hard but
ALSO i felt like he always shared the message from
ours instead of staff to the locker. ROOM i think
he was a good leader for. Us you, know it'd
be a huge challenge here this week for for us
to be able to to block them and to neutralize

(01:36:22):
them and try to gain some. Yards like the last
game in the, video the peach's supposed to, said give
every one of them a.

Speaker 4 (01:36:29):
Ball i'm just curious why you said, that, also just
how you feel the.

Speaker 9 (01:36:33):
Culture it was the quickest THING i could do to
get us out of there and get back home instead
of go down the list Of Drake, May Kashan, Boody Marcus.
Jones we recognized all those, guys you, know but you,
know just it feels like a team. WIN i mean
back and forth and the defense stepping up and guys

(01:36:55):
making plays in the second half to help. Us and
you Know Christian ellis who puts so much into it
to hammer the football out and you know, that you, know,
schools you, know continuing to factor on special teams. Again
but now we're you, know we're onto the next, week
and you, know just wanted to try to get, out
get out of there as soon as we, could to

(01:37:15):
get back, home to try to get some rest and
to get onto this.

Speaker 21 (01:37:18):
Week i've had a general discussion this week about running
backs in general and quickness versus.

Speaker 9 (01:37:24):
Speed where do your running back room standing with quickness and?
Speed and what do you think is more important quickness for?
SPEED i just tell them run where they, Ate and
that's the only way THAT i know how to coach
them is to tell them to take care of the.
BALL i think that, speed you, know obviously is a,
relative is a. Distance quickness maybe being able to change

(01:37:46):
direction without having to take too many steps, right being
able to put your foot in the ground and either,
jump cut or or get downhill whatever that may. BE i,
think whatever the play style, is whatever the skill set
is for for each, player it's important that they own
it and they make them their. Own you, Know Derrick,

(01:38:08):
henry for an, example wasn't the quickest, player but he had,
speed and so again we tried to emphasize that for
him and not make him think that he had to
play like a certain you know back that had a
different play.

Speaker 3 (01:38:24):
Style like is it is it true that you reached
out To Brian callen in this?

Speaker 9 (01:38:27):
Weekend that? True? Yeah? Sure why you, know of COURSE i.
DID i, MEAN i don't want to see anybody that
shares a job with, you you know WHAT i, mean
get get let. Go that's not the you, know that's
a that's a that's a tough, feeling you, know with
family and school and you, know whether it's in college
or pro, like we're in the media every single, day
and there's a human element to this and, that, UH

(01:38:51):
i don't want to. FORGET i just remember all those
coaches that were people that reached out after AFTER i
was let, Go and you, KNOW i think that that's
important because nobody texts when you, lose they all text
when you. Win so that's a good reminder like.

Speaker 6 (01:39:07):
When when you were, like, Oh i'm sure it's stun a.
Lot when you look at where you are, now are
you kind of grateful to way?

Speaker 9 (01:39:12):
Things, Well i'm grateful for another opportunity and being here
and love, coaching love being here and everything. ELSE i
was grateful For kevin And andrew and then The haslams
for having me In. Cleveland and you just hope that
if you get another shot and another, opportunity you, know
like we tell our, players be ready for it and

(01:39:33):
take advantage of. It you keep been Touching Chucker.

Speaker 3 (01:39:36):
SIMMONS i think you said some, there and you pass
about other players. Too let's all look like just kind
of checking on the, family checking out how.

Speaker 9 (01:39:42):
They're, doing how they're, doing and thank, them you, know thank, them,
uh thank them for what they did while we were
together and help, me you, know be a. Coach and
whether they have a good game or there's something going
on or you, know whether they had a you, know

(01:40:05):
something happened in their life or there was some adversity
or some POSITIVE i, mean no different than you would
anybody else that you had a relationship.

Speaker 6 (01:40:13):
With like when you heard the news That brian had
been fired this week of what was your reaction and
were you?

Speaker 9 (01:40:18):
SURPRISED i didn't have a you, know, AGAIN i just
had a focus here and, again the surprises in our
business shouldn't be. Surprises there's just. Everything things happen in this.
League that's a decision that they. MADE i didn't have

(01:40:38):
a particular reaction to, it other than trying to get
ready for the game On, sunday.

Speaker 7 (01:40:45):
Still three weeks basically from the trade.

Speaker 16 (01:40:49):
Deadline But i'm, curious given where you guys sit in
the standings and how you've, played if that at all
impacts how aggressive you'll be in trying to acquire.

Speaker 9 (01:40:58):
TALENT i don't know if that has a bearing on.
Anything we'll just continue to try, to you, know strengthen
the roster each and every. Day sometimes those are small,
moves maybe bigger. Ones BUT i don't think that the right,
now those conversations are centered around what our record is.

(01:41:23):
CURRENTLY i don't think that that's something that really bears into.
It we're building something and if any of those things
can help us build and strengthen us and allow us
for long term consistent, success THEN i think that's what
we should try to.

Speaker 7 (01:41:39):
Do you said On, monday some things are important and
other things are.

Speaker 5 (01:41:42):
Interesting you like?

Speaker 14 (01:41:44):
That?

Speaker 9 (01:41:44):
HUH i?

Speaker 12 (01:41:45):
Did actually do you also talk to the players about
that sort of, thing knowing that they could get amped
up for, you specifically to try to win this game In.

Speaker 9 (01:41:53):
Tennessee, yeah this Isn't we're not trying to win one
for the gipper. Here we're just trying to make sure
that these guys are focused on. Improving AND i think
that they. ARE i think they're they're locked in and and,
hopefully you, know we can get them as prepared as
we possibly can between now And, sunday.

Speaker 6 (01:42:11):
Grown as a coach and a. Person based on your
time And, tennessey.

Speaker 9 (01:42:17):
You guys always ask me the same, question like some reflective.
Question it's you know WHAT i? MEAN i just you
try to. Learn every day you try to. Learn don't
forget how important and critical the relationships are with the,
players how important the players are to this. THING i
think building a program of people that you, know believe
in a common goal THAT i want to try, to

(01:42:38):
uh support the program that we're building in positive, ways
help them. Grow how DO i support? Them who do
how can we develop, Them how can we develop young
coaches and young players and young scouts and everything?

Speaker 3 (01:42:51):
Else, second second, time how much has this affirmed you
wanting to be a head coach and enjoying being an head?

Speaker 9 (01:42:59):
Coach? Jeff WHAT i? Mean it's hard to enjoy? It
ADMITTEDLY i think it's hard to enjoy, It but you
KNOW i. DIDN'T i knew ONCE i got To cleveland
that there was you, KNOW i was sure that nothing
ELSE i wanted to do than to have that another
opportunity IF i could get. It AND i think you

(01:43:20):
have to try to enjoy find different ways to enjoy,
it you, know and and the good h and the,
bad you, know having been through, Both so go. Ahead
how do you see the quarterbacks role in terms of
helping your team estoplishing the?

Speaker 12 (01:43:35):
Run?

Speaker 9 (01:43:36):
YEAH i think that's a great. QUESTION i had that
conversation with With drake On monday and his encouragement and
how he can continue to encourage a group of linemen
players that line up in front of, them that have
done a fairly good job of protecting. Him we know
how important and critical that. Is but also explaining and

(01:43:59):
encouraging and also keeping everybody on the same page as
we come, up and you, know we have our different you,
KNOW id system that we're working to and making sure
that everybody's on the same, page making sure that the
call is, clean and making sure that the run alert
is the one that we want to get. To and
so the quarterback can have a critical role in the run.

(01:44:19):
Game it takes all eleven and uh and certainly starts
with the. Quarterback but BUT i appreciate. That thank.

Speaker 21 (01:44:24):
You just to, Clarifying, mike could you be hard to,
do hard to, coach.

Speaker 9 (01:44:29):
The hard to? ENJOY i.

Speaker 6 (01:44:31):
Enjoy all, right That's mike Rabel Is wednesday press. Conference.

Speaker 22 (01:44:37):
ANYTHING i, MEAN i do like the way here we,
are we back there we, are the VERBAL i do
like the way he kind of spars with us a little,
bit and it's not like confrontational in any.

Speaker 3 (01:44:55):
Way it seems like more. Lighthearted but you, know like
you guys asked me the same, point you, know that
kind of stuff and conversation he was, Asked, yeah he
was asked about the, comment WHICH I i did kind
of enjoy his comment about you, know it's interesting and,
important you know the fact that he's the Former titans.
Coach going back To nashville to coach against The, titans

(01:45:15):
and he's like you like that, one? Huh And fred
you were, like you like, that like the Old Kirk cousins.
Thing BUT i just think he's not giving a lot
of state. SECRETS i just THINK i find his conversational
tone a lot easier to deal with on a day
to day basis Than, BILL i, mean AND i would

(01:45:37):
probably FIND i, MEAN i Found girod a lot easier
to deal with on a day to day basis Than bill.
Too BUT i just feel Like mike is a little bit, more,
yeah sort of.

Speaker 6 (01:45:46):
FOCUSED i don't Think mike has the disdain for the,
media and you know that he.

Speaker 3 (01:45:51):
Doesn't, yeah, no not. NO i don't think very many
people had the disdain That bill had for the. Media
but you, Know i'm sure That mike gets frustrat with
us a, lot you, know right out of the, chute you,
know the first, question and this is all people are
talking about, nationally Right i'm listening TO espn this. Morning
there was a segment On Get up about The patriots

(01:46:13):
in first place and can they dethrone The? Bills and
Then STEPHEN. A smith same thing on First. Take so
this is a national. Story by the, way let me
take this opportunity BEFORE i get on with my point
to say to, you, yes you, asked and we went
back and forth about this heading into The buffalo, game

(01:46:36):
what A patriots win would do to change AND i
sort of said In buffalo would be a blip on the,
radar AND i think that that's sort of been. Accurate but,
nationally your point was people are going to start talking
about Is Drake may worthy of Dethroning? Buffalo and you were.
RIGHT i was, wrong you were, Right SO i just

(01:46:56):
like to be, Fair. FRED i mean, AGAIN i tell
people this all the. Time when you talk for a,
living you're not always going to be right. Right there's no,
shame and you have to say things and there's no
shame and admitting when you got one, right admitting when
you got one. Wrong sometimes it. HAPPENS i think In
buffalo they're sort of worried about themselves and they still
think that they're the class of THE Afc, east if

(01:47:18):
not THE afc.

Speaker 6 (01:47:19):
In, general less worried about.

Speaker 3 (01:47:20):
Us but nationally they are doing exactly what you thought
might happen by the way That Drake may is. Playing
but just like that that whole that whole question right
out of the shoot That karen asks about being in first,
place and he's, like you, know they're not going to
cancel the rest of the. Season you, know he's he
wants to downplay. It he wants to keep the guys

(01:47:42):
on the, uh on the task at.

Speaker 6 (01:47:44):
Hand deuce has gone to the locker. Room SO i
don't think we'll see him no.

Speaker 9 (01:47:49):
More no, no.

Speaker 3 (01:47:52):
Because it was a little later, today you, know and
and so the. Show BUT i, MEAN i, thought you,
know there wasn't a ton on that bone there For mike,
today the last. Question but he did talk To Brian,
callaghan WHICH i thought was, interesting you. Know AND i
had seen that because he just to let people know
sort of the inner. Workings mike did a call with

(01:48:14):
The tennessee media prior to doing his his press conference,
today AND i had seen some of The tennessee writers
had tweeted that quote out that he had said that
he had reached out To Brian.

Speaker 6 (01:48:25):
Callen the last.

Speaker 2 (01:48:27):
Question from one of the media, was you, know what
role does Can drake play in helping the running game get?
Better And rabel, said, oh that's a good. Question it's
something that we just talked To drake About SO i
think we'll be getting a lot of stories, Now uh people.

Speaker 6 (01:48:43):
Running, Okay Oh i've.

Speaker 2 (01:48:45):
Got i've got today's story from a lot of your,
people Actually evans. PEOPLE i was going to, say not my,
people Actually evans. People so, YEAH i not a really
huge nose noteworthy press. Conference but you, know it's just
good to they're interesting now a little bit you get

(01:49:06):
something out of.

Speaker 3 (01:49:06):
It, well it's like WHAT i talked about a little bit.
Yesterday it's it's sort of nice and refreshing to talk
about the team big picture in terms of you, know
like we're talking about the trade deadline that's still three weeks,
away four weeks, away whatever it, is and adding and
bolstering for a run at the division, title for home

(01:49:27):
playoff game, potential and you, know being ahead of. Schedule
it's nice to talk about things that might deril that
as opposed to can we just show some improvement that
would be a you, know we're now move past, that
which is, great.

Speaker 6 (01:49:40):
Right jackie And auber has The.

Speaker 2 (01:49:44):
Titans version Of Stutter stiff that has become a weekly
email for. Him this is The titans edition Stutter. Stiff Cam, Ward.

Speaker 3 (01:49:54):
I'm gonna say, Stud, Okay Van, Jefferson stiff J. C.
LATHAM i don't know much about, him you, know other
than WHAT i talked about, Earlier But i'm gonna say
stiff based On Jeffrey.

Speaker 2 (01:50:06):
Simmons, YEAH i think the next, One Jeffrey. Simmons we
got the stud in the far, Finally Lajarious Snead.

Speaker 3 (01:50:14):
Stud you know HE a lot of these guys fall in,
between but that's not the way the game is set.
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Know you gave me a trivia question before ABOUT i don't.
KNOW i don't know if you have that. Answer oh darn,
It i'm gonna. Guess hold, on let me get let
me get. There we had rushing? Touchdowns Uh IN o,

(01:50:37):
Two i'm GONNA i don't know the answer to this
either one of, these But i'm gonna have. Guesses, Okay
i'm going to Guess Antoine smith IN o, two AND
i really don't know this other. One Le Garrett, Blunt,

(01:50:58):
OKAY i can tell you that you're wrong, Both CAN?
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Speaker 6 (01:51:02):
TWO i don't, Know let me let me just darn.

Speaker 3 (01:51:05):
It DID i talk about. It if you can't find,
it it's not THAT i, know BUT i.

Speaker 2 (01:51:10):
Wanted i'll give you one of the answers To Tom.
Brady OH i think that WAS o. Two OH i
should have known. THAT i should have known. That that's
a fairly memorable. Touchdown yeah oh.

Speaker 3 (01:51:24):
Two, yeah let me.

Speaker 6 (01:51:26):
See but the other one good.

Speaker 3 (01:51:28):
Question that's, uh that's good.

Speaker 6 (01:51:30):
Stuff why CAN'T i find? This see this is an, example.
Folks you think we don't get a lot of, emails.

Speaker 3 (01:51:38):
But fred can't even find it right, right pointing through
so many may maybe we'll Go James, White, no.

Speaker 9 (01:51:46):
Was it?

Speaker 3 (01:51:46):
Seventeen that?

Speaker 9 (01:51:48):
Game?

Speaker 6 (01:51:49):
Eighteen, Yeah i've lost, it all, Right i've lost.

Speaker 3 (01:51:53):
It it's maybe that guy will send another one back
in with.

Speaker 2 (01:51:56):
It so if you're the person who sent, THAT i
THINK i forget who. Was if you're the person who's
sent in that, email why don't you resend? It and
he'll get to the top of A. Q, Yeah jake
And Melbourne australia rights. In he wants to talk About Grant,
delpit the safety out of The, browns a cut candidate

(01:52:17):
during the off, season but it's had a strong start
as one more year left and his deal should be
a target as a trade.

Speaker 6 (01:52:22):
Candidate that's a position of.

Speaker 3 (01:52:24):
Need, YEAH i MEAN I i'm not against any of these.
OPTIONS i think that they need depth in the secondary
linebacker and we talked about edge. Rusher they need running.
Backs i'm Not kyle And.

Speaker 2 (01:52:40):
Pembroke we were talking about this off Air Jacoby myers
as a trade candidate that.

Speaker 3 (01:52:46):
One i'm not is interested, in but not because Of Jacoby. Myers,
yes you, know we Love jacoby AND i just think
he's another like what you. Have AND i think you
already have sort of relation chips with the, quarterback and
now if you can make a major upgrade and bring
in AN Aj brown like, that to me is something
you need to think. About BUT i, mean is how

(01:53:09):
much better Is Jakoby myers than what you? Have i'm
not talking about, Stats i'm talking about. Player.

Speaker 6 (01:53:13):
Yep, YEAH i didn't. THINK i didn't look at. HIM
i look Like paul.

Speaker 2 (01:53:17):
SAID i Love Jacoby, myers would love to have him
back and his, dad but he's not the complimentary.

Speaker 6 (01:53:23):
RECEIVER i think we're looking.

Speaker 7 (01:53:25):
For the trivia email is back at the.

Speaker 6 (01:53:27):
TOP i got, IT i got, It i'll get, it,
Ye so go along over.

Speaker 2 (01:53:35):
Answers for the trivia question WAS o Two Tom brady
ten yard rush in the third, quarter and then in
eighteen it Was James devlin a one yard rush in
the second.

Speaker 3 (01:53:45):
Quarter, definitely that's a great trivia. Question never would have Gotten.

Speaker 6 (01:53:49):
So That's tom and The berkshire is get that man
A t?

Speaker 23 (01:53:52):
Shirt, Sorry i'm costing us. Money, no we got to
get rid of THE t, shirts, right we got to
get rid of THE ta, SURE i got to be.
Better let's see what's going on in the. Phones oh THERE'S.

Speaker 3 (01:54:05):
I can tell you they lost the, GAME i know
two twenty four to seven on A monday. Night, yep
that's that's. Correct This paul's just. Stop you didn't get.

Speaker 6 (01:54:13):
It spencer And Penn. State what's what's?

Speaker 9 (01:54:16):
Up?

Speaker 6 (01:54:16):
Spencer what's go?

Speaker 18 (01:54:19):
On?

Speaker 24 (01:54:19):
Guys thanks for taking my?

Speaker 5 (01:54:20):
Call who love the?

Speaker 6 (01:54:21):
Show thank?

Speaker 24 (01:54:22):
You my dad's been a longtime listener all the way
back TO psw in progress and now my brother AND
i are At Penn state and we both. Listen it's
a family FROM i was just a quick, question who's
your favorite all time Favorite patriot that came From Penn.
State some of my r mentions would Be Todd, Rucci Sam,

(01:54:42):
Dash Rich, Ormberger, ormberger and of Course Chris, hogan although
he played.

Speaker 5 (01:54:49):
Lacrosse that's a good.

Speaker 24 (01:54:51):
One so one more. Thing my dad's birthday is coming
up in Mid. November he's been a loyal listener and
raised Two pats, fans AND i know he'd love to
get his hands on A patriots And FILTER t.

Speaker 6 (01:55:02):
Shirt but we'll see what we can do about.

Speaker 3 (01:55:04):
It we're just giving him away.

Speaker 9 (01:55:06):
NOW i like.

Speaker 3 (01:55:06):
It, yeah you.

Speaker 24 (01:55:09):
Guys keep the.

Speaker 6 (01:55:10):
Work we are all, right, Thanks.

Speaker 2 (01:55:12):
SPENCER i mean of, LIKE i don't know all the
players that were From Penn, state but of the ones he,
Mentioned i'd Say Sam gash would be my.

Speaker 3 (01:55:19):
FAVORITE i would, Agree AND i thought, this so my
answer is going to Be Michael. Timpson. MICHAEL i Thought
Michael timpson was A Penn state. Guy just looked it.

Speaker 23 (01:55:27):
Up he Is.

Speaker 3 (01:55:29):
Michael. Timpson, okay you might he was wonder like player
in the.

Speaker 6 (01:55:34):
Sixties if there were Some Penn Steak.

Speaker 3 (01:55:35):
I'm sure there Were Penn. State, yeah probably a linebacker or.

Speaker 6 (01:55:39):
Two, no, yeah but, yeah of that, List, SAM i
was going.

Speaker 3 (01:55:43):
To Ask, spencer, like who's going to be the new?
Coach James. Franklin, YEAH i don't be seeing him no.

Speaker 6 (01:55:49):
More imagine that getting fifty million dollars to go.

Speaker 3 (01:55:53):
Away, YEAH i mean That's i'd be, like see the
absurdity of the college football in. General but just think
like three weeks, ago AND i saw a million people
had this tweeted about. This but three weeks, ago they
had a touchdown lead in overtime as the number three
team in the country Against oregon in a game they

(01:56:14):
ultimately ended up. Losing and they've lost two more since
then to teams that they had no business, losing TO
ucla And. Northwestern but three weeks, ago fred they were
one defensive stop away from probably being the number two
team in the. Country last, year they were in the
college football. PLAYOFFS i think they were in the final.
Four and now the guy's out of a job three weeks.

(01:56:36):
Later that's amazing to. Me And i'm not necessarily saying
That Penn state's ridiculous for doing, it because he's had
a hard time beating anybody of any. Substance their record
against top ten teams is, abysmal top five, teams, whatever
and That oregon game well.

Speaker 6 (01:56:55):
STUNG i, mean there's always been firings in.

Speaker 3 (01:56:59):
Middies has been a lot of mid season in college this, year, especially.

Speaker 2 (01:57:02):
Right and do you think it's gonna get worse because
now it's like a pro. Program now now they're paying
kids and the money is, there and they boosters have
more control because they're the ones spending the money and.

Speaker 3 (01:57:13):
They can do it above, board, Right, like, OH i
got to pay a fifty million dollar? Buyout, yeah all,
right you don't have to pretend that you're not getting
it from these boosters.

Speaker 6 (01:57:22):
Anymore you, know If i'm paying for his, buyout what
say DO i have in the new next head? COACH i,
MEAN I.

Speaker 2 (01:57:30):
I know a lot like these peers got his his
work cutout For, yeah he's he's got about the head
of the.

Speaker 3 (01:57:37):
He's got he's got no. Shot and it's not his
it's not his fault.

Speaker 6 (01:57:40):
Fall.

Speaker 3 (01:57:41):
Yeah but and people miss mistake this all the, time
a little late in the show to bring up something like.
This but there's going to be tremendous interest in college
football and in college basketball there always, is especially, nationwide
maybe not as much around here for. Us but people
confuse that with OH i thought was going to ruin the.
Game it has ruined the Game i'm sorry it has

(01:58:04):
like it's not the same with all this transferring and
free agency and money going back and forth and all
of this. Stuff, yeah we're gonna keep watching because we
love football and we're gonna keep and we love the
college basketball, tournament you, know like and again not so
much In. Boston this is more of a nationwide. Thing you,
know you're not going to ruin basketball for like The Kansas,

(01:58:25):
jayhawks you, know by doing this. Stuff but it's not
as good a. Product it's not as it's not as
good to if you were like watching this, Stuff fred
and you have to see like ten guys that you
really enjoy watching in football in the twenty twenty five,
season and they just. Leave even if you have a great.
Program it's just the nature of the. Business that's good for. Anybody,

(01:58:46):
right one.

Speaker 6 (01:58:47):
More email to close out the. Show this Is rick And.

Speaker 2 (01:58:49):
Louisville have to express what many others that listen watch
probably think right. Now i'm going through one horrific storm after.
Another i'm not saying that to get. SYMPATHY i know
this is The Doctor phil's. SHOW i just want to
express my gratitude towards all of, you which includes the
people behind the scenes that we don't see or. Hear
your show does what sports should, do give us an
escape from, life which is the way which is really

(01:59:13):
hard these.

Speaker 6 (01:59:13):
Days thank you for everything you.

Speaker 2 (01:59:15):
Do, yes the x'es and o's are the meat and
potatoes of the, Show but the way you guys present
stuff leaves me. Laughing sometimes it gives me just a
break from the next possible tornado heading down my.

Speaker 3 (01:59:25):
Path oh, man the.

Speaker 2 (01:59:26):
Pick segment is my, favorite AND i love to listen
To fred try and show his expertise explaining the sharps
or taking a hook that isn't, there Then paul trying
to explain it is even. Funnier keep this. Up LIKE i,
SAID i know there are many out there that feel
the WAY i. DO i HOPE i get to run
into you this. Weekend let's go take care of business
and come home five to. Two, Rick you're who we

(01:59:48):
do it.

Speaker 3 (01:59:48):
For, yeah and stay. Safe and there has been a
lot of. Weather i'm a little bit more in tune
with some of these storms. DOWNSIDE i Think i'm talking
about his own personal.

Speaker 6 (01:59:58):
Storm oh, NO i, KNOW i.

Speaker 3 (01:59:59):
Know but the weather has been LIKE i told, you
like they have like a parade every, week and it
was so bad In charleston last week they had to cancel.

Speaker 9 (02:00:07):
It.

Speaker 3 (02:00:07):
Yeah, so and there's been a couple of like near
hurricanes that have sort of veered off into the into the.
Ocean yeah, NO i know What rick's talking. About he's
been a long time listener, too so, yeah, yep hang in.

Speaker 6 (02:00:19):
There all, right that's going to be it for this
edition Of Patriots. Unfiltered we'll be back tomorrow at. Noon
it's a big. Day we got, picks any. Preview how
did we do as a.

Speaker 3 (02:00:29):
Group i'll just say THAT i am not in last place.
Anymore oh, okay starting to make my move and make
my move On Johnny.

Speaker 6 (02:00:39):
Chan, okay all, right we'll be back. Tomorrow, hey this Is.

Speaker 7 (02:00:45):
Alex thanks for tuning into the.

Speaker 6 (02:00:46):
Show if you really want to help, us make.

Speaker 9 (02:00:48):
Sure you like us On Apple, Podcasts, spotify or wherever
you get your.

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