Patriots Unfiltered 10/8: Saints Preview, Vrabel Presser and Reaction, Locker Room/Team Updates

Tune-in as we turn the page to the Patriots Week 6 road matchup against the New Orleans Saints. We talk about the speedy threats of both Chris Olave and Rashid Shaheed in the Saints WR room, and their defense's ability to force turnovers on a game-to-game basis. We watch and react to Head Coach Mike Vrabel's press conference and share our observations of his comments on penalties, interim defensive coordinator Zak Kuhr and more. Plus, Deuce reports back from the locker room on what players were saying about Sunday's matchup.

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 3 (00:21):
Mike and I just putting up pants back on. Since
the postgame shot man.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
We were we were all in the New England Patriots
are on the rise.

Speaker 4 (00:28):
Because it was on to come. But I didn't think
the schooler one was that egregious.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Oh no, it was.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
He was out of bounds.

Speaker 5 (00:35):
I know.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
It was was like three steps out about. He barely
hit him. Look at it.

Speaker 4 (00:39):
Again, he didn't seven times they launched.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
He was already.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
I don't care that he didn't launch. He hit it
in the head.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Finished, And you're just gonna interrupt say and.

Speaker 4 (00:47):
He didn't hit him. That wasn't that egregious.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
He's just not gonna let me talk. I'm trying to
explain what I saw, and you won't let me.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
Can we just move on?

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Won't do that?

Speaker 4 (00:55):
All right? How many times are you going to say
he didn't hit him in the head.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
I'm going to give my opinion on the If you
let me fine, is that okay? If you let me talk,
I can have one That's all I'm saying is can
I just give it seven times?

Speaker 3 (01:08):
You didn't think it was a penalty? I mean, I
get it. God Like, can we just say like it
was a great win and just move on? Like, like,
why don't we have to be like, Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
We're not going to talk about the game. How's Barth doing?
Is he? Okay?

Speaker 6 (01:19):
Like he's doing her soil his pants travel so he's
watching it at home?

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Does his mother yell at him to keep it? Alice
made me love.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
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Speaker 2 (01:36):
All Right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Wednesday here
at Jillette Stadium, a rainy day here in Foxborough. We
always need to rain, we do. I don't mind the
rains as long as it's not on the weekend. That's
good with me.

Speaker 5 (01:50):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
But we're talking about still in the glow of the
wind Sunday night. But we're also turning the page because
it's when and we're looking ahead to the New Orleans Saints,
who I think have been more than competitive that I
thought they would be scrappy. So you better watch out.

(02:11):
You better watch out. If Bill Parcells would say, don't
take the cheese, Yeah, don't take the cheese. This could
be a trap game.

Speaker 7 (02:19):
I spent the morning watching a little of them, and
thing that stood out to me is how bad their
special teams are. I mean, they had like the first
half against Seattle, it was like a punt return touchdown,
a blocked punt, a kickoff return to like their own forty,
so you know, and then they were in like a
twenty eight three hole or whatever it was. So that
might be an area the Patriots could look to pick
up some field positions, some yardage. Marcus Jones. Of course

(02:42):
we talked about the kickoff return, figuring out how they're.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Gonna get that out with Gibbee out.

Speaker 5 (02:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
So it's Deuce, it's Evan, it's Paul, it's me, it's
Alex and the booth and we'll be talking Patriots for
the next couple hours. Mike Vrabel at twelve fifty five,
wyll be coming on. Has that's become our Wednesday tradition.
See what the coach has to say, See how he's
turning the page. So any anything that's the key to.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
The week, right, Yeah, you got to turn the page.
You got to get ready for a team that you
should beat on the road. Fred's right, they've had a
couple of competitive games, so if you don't show up
to play, you can lose in that league. I mean,
these teams are not that far apart. You know, the
worst teams and the best teams are not like It's
not like college where you can bring your your B

(03:28):
or C game and get by because your talent is
just that much better.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
That's the key to the week. Both mayking sure you're
ready to play.

Speaker 7 (03:34):
I mean both of the first two games at home
where you know they're going to the end zone and
the first one and the second one they got stop
kind of midfield on the last drive. You know, even
the Bills, it's a it's a two point game in
the fourth quarter. So I think there's plenty of little
stats and numbers for able to put up there and
be like, you know, these guys, these guys are are scrappy.
I don't think that you know, Spencer Rattlers is anything special,

(03:56):
but they have some speed with the receivers that they have,
and you know those old veterans that are just the
holdovers from the old Saint days.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Somehow it's there.

Speaker 7 (04:03):
They're still there, you know, on both sides of the ball,
with Davis and Cam Jordan and you know, of course
the running back Cama Camara.

Speaker 6 (04:12):
Yeah, yeah, they have like sneaky good skill talent. Yeah,
I don't think they have the quarterback and I don't
their offensive line is kind of in shambles right now,
which if you want to project the Patriots blowout, Patriots
defensive line taking over this game against the Saints offensive
line is like how we get to that point? But
Camara's still got it, Like, you know, he's not necessarily

(04:34):
as explosive as he was earlier on in his career,
but he can still run the ball, still breaks tackles
at an insane rate. Rashid Shaheed's like one of the
most underrated receivers in football, had a breakout game last week.

Speaker 8 (04:46):
Agent next year, I saw you highlight that little speed.

Speaker 6 (04:50):
Chris Olave, solid player, solid receiver. Cooks is still you
know back now with New Orleans. So it's not a
team that doesn't have some name brand and talent. You know,
DU's mentioned the guys on defense with you know, Cam Jordan, Demartin,
Jovis it's not.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
A bad tight end.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah, tight end tight ends have given the Patriots some trouble.

Speaker 6 (05:10):
Yeah, it's a first time head coach, it's a quarterback
that's probably not their future.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (05:16):
And that's you know, advantage Patriots big time in those categories.
But it's not a team that's you know, deprived of talent,
like they do have some players on this roster.

Speaker 7 (05:25):
You know, we kind of like to stay out to
me a couple of times. Is kool Aid ch Industry
the rookie cornerback, kind of big physical guy. He's been
making some plays.

Speaker 5 (05:34):
You know.

Speaker 7 (05:34):
Another interesting thing is that Brandon Staley is the defensive coordinators.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
That's a fangio guy. I'm not sure he has the
exact horses.

Speaker 7 (05:42):
Right now for that scheme that he's well known for,
but a lot of his own coverage and you know,
I think what I'd like to see is just what's
the counter punches. There's two areas. It's in the receiving game.
You know, I think teams are going to continue to
focus on Hunter and Henry and Diggs. You know, can
another guy kind of step up and make up for
that loss? If the team says, you know, we're just

(06:02):
going to take digs away. You beat us with Demario Douglas,
beat us with you.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Know, Matt Collins or Kyle Williams or you know any
of those guys.

Speaker 7 (06:09):
And then I think the biggest question and the hardest
one to answer, is the running game, like how do.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
You what do you do?

Speaker 7 (06:13):
Are you ready to give a bunch of volume carries
back to Remandra and let him be the guy like
he's been, you know, over the last I think the
last couple of years when they had injuries there, Remember
Ezekiel Elliott I think was the last man standing when
it was just all him. Is Travon Henderson ready to
step up? And and you know, so I don't know
if you can get by with just those two guys.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Bring up Jennings, they activate him.

Speaker 7 (06:35):
So they signed a practice squad guy yesterday, which I
thought was interesting because maybe it does point to I
wonder if Rabel's system is one that if you're on
a practice squad and we've had you since training camp
and an injury happens, we want to bring you up.
We want to stay in house. We don't want to
immediately go outside. Now, maybe they're trying to cook something
up sign somebody, trade for somebody, something like that.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
But you jumped over to the Patriots, But I want
to go back to the Saints for said, because they
have a young head coach. Yeah, Kellen Moore. What do
we think of him in terms of, you know, being
that game strategist in you know, cooking up schemes.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
I just look at it as rattler.

Speaker 7 (07:13):
I mean, I see, you can talk all about schemes,
but if you don't have a quarterback who can really
execute at a high level and push the ball down
the field, I mean, he's I think Paul said initially,
it's it's a lot of underneath stuff. I think Olave
is the only one, or sorry, it's rich Shaheed is
the only one avering more than ten yards of you know, a.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Catch, and that's only because of his bond that he
caught last week. I mean, I mean a lot of
a seven point four yards to catch. Now, like tackle,
that's a good day for a running back.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Yeah, come up and tackle.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (07:41):
I think that you know what they're they're set up
is really that Kellen Moore is running the offense and
Brandon Staley is running the defense. So he hired a
guy in Stale who as head coaching experience and has
defensive coordinator experience so that he can you know, be
in the lab and call the plays. So Kellen Moore
is calling the offense himself, and so he's really that's
like kind of how they divvied this up. Staley. I

(08:04):
know that he had caught a lot of heat as
a head coach and ended up, you know, getting fired
by the Chargers. But he has a really sophisticated defensive scheme.
They play a lot of match coverage, a zone match,
so it's it's sophisticated, it's complex. You know, Duce mentioned Fangio.
It is from that tree. So they're playing a lot
of quarters match quarters this year, and so they they're

(08:26):
gonna kind of spin the dial on you a little
bit on the defensive side of the ball. It's a
good scheme.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
It's interesting because you say it's a sophisticated defense. But
when Staley was with the Charges, wasn't he a kind
of a conservative head coach?

Speaker 6 (08:39):
No, total opposite, right.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Maybe I got him mixed up with somebody else.

Speaker 6 (08:43):
He was driven by the nerds.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
He put the fourth down on the map.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
He was really one of those guys.

Speaker 6 (08:48):
Yeah, and that's what ended up being his demise. But defensively,
you know, they play a lot of two high safeties,
and they really play a lot of zone, but it's
match zone where if you run a vertical route then
it gets covered like it's man to man, but if
you run underneath the defense, it gets covered like a zone.
So it's a it's a sophisticated, kind of complex defensive

(09:09):
system that they run, which you know obviously is stressful
on their players and they have to learn it and
all that kind of stuff. But at the same time,
it's it's the hit scheme, you know. Defensively, you know,
it's Fangio's tree and and they're doing a lot of
those different things. So it's it's fun to watch their
defense on film because of that. They run a lot
of different scheme and exotic things, especially third downs that

(09:32):
even gave Josh Allen some problems a couple of weeks ago.
You know, just nobody open like taking sacks because they're
they're not getting receivers open against the defense, So it's
a it's sneaky. It's again, I'm not like trying to
pipe them up like they're this.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
I've already taught myself and to be nervous about this game.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
So I three of you are getting me nervous. I'm
not nervous.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
I really think it's in the NFL, it's hard to
be a team that can't do anything right. Yeah, like
even the bad teams can do something right. They're bad
because they don't do enough right, but there's always something
that they can do pretty well.

Speaker 6 (10:05):
Yeah, you know, and let's talking about it.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yeah, that's why I said the thing about it's not
college where just the gulf is enormous between the haves
and the have nots. This might be one of the
lower echelon teams, but they still have players. I just
don't believe in Spencer Rattler, you know, which is why
I don't think that they have much of a shot.
But you know, the more you guys are talking, and
I'm just like kind of like filling in the gaps.

(10:28):
You know, Chase Young at one time was considered one
of the mere young edge guys. You know, he's been
a disappointment, you know, for sure, but there is some
individual talent on the defense that Evan talked about. I'm
curious your thoughts on Kellen Moore. I've always kind of
thought of. I think he has a reputation of being
a really good offensive coordinator and kind of an innovative guy.

(10:51):
I kind of think his offenses have been disappointing. You know,
when he was with the Chargers. You know, he's supposed
to have fixed Herbert. I don't really think he did.
He was a dow was for a while. I don't
know is he that good.

Speaker 5 (11:02):
I mean, from a.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Skinatics that point's certainly out of it.

Speaker 6 (11:05):
So he's bunded his scheme now with what Jason Garrett
was running with the Cowboys, and now he's running what
Philly ran last year and some West Coast principles and
some of their offense you know from the gun too,
like Rattlers run the ball by design quite a bit.
And so I don't think that it's like I wasn't
like blown away by watching their scheme, but their offensive

(11:27):
line is so bad that I just like, when it
comes to scheme, if you can't block, it's hard to
start like dressing things up and get guys open with
scheme and all that kind of stuff, because you just
don't have the time back there to let it plays develop.
But I wouldn't say he's like, you know, elite or
anything like that as a play caller or you know,
an offensive architect. But every once in a while, there

(11:50):
was some things that they ran that I was like, oh, okay,
you know, I see what you're doing. Like they especially
the quarterback design runs and the RPOs and that kind
of stuff.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
We'll get right into the emails because you know, we've
got vrabel coming up, and so we want to make
sure we get people in here and about the game.
Matt and Wichita. He says, I'll start by saying, this
is a team that Patriot should absolutely be able to
handle with that set. I'm a bit concerned with how
the Saints run their offense. They funnel a lot of
the passing offense through Kamara at running back and Johnson

(12:19):
at tight end. If there's a clear area that the
Patriots defense has struggle with, it's been linebackers playing in coverage.
The linebackers will likely have to step up this week
versus a team that likes to throw to the tight
ends and running backs a whole bunch.

Speaker 5 (12:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (12:33):
I mean I throw the safeties in that group too.
I think the safeties really on the tight ends has
been a matchup that teams have taken advantage of.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Going back to last week too with Kincaid.

Speaker 7 (12:41):
But yeah, the tight ends have been an issue since
training camp, joint practices. Every game probably highlights, you know,
where they're going to have to get better when they
have a chance in the offseason to improve a little bit.
But I don't know, Kamara, he still looks the part
like if you just look at him not moving, I'm like,
he still looks like an elite, you know, but he
doesn't quite move the same way he once did.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
He doesn't scare me a lot. It's just it's really.

Speaker 7 (13:05):
I think the like I said at the beginning, I
think you win this game in the margins. You dominate
on special teams, you tackle well, you know, you make
everything hard for them. I think over the last couple
of years we've gotten a crash course in what it's
like to be a bad football team and what needs
to happen for a football team bad football team to win.
And the Patriots have to avoid doing those things that
over the last couple of years gave the Patriots opportunities

(13:27):
to win with stupid turnovers, you know, a couple of
broken tackles, a big play to Shahed.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
You know, Seattle just that's how Seattle did it.

Speaker 7 (13:34):
They just raced out big plays on special teams, finished
with touchdowns and you know they never look back. But
otherwise all these games have been fairly close, and they
won last week.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
BB and NH says, wondering how you think Kamara will
fare against our run defense. We're the only team in
the league to have not allowed a fifty yard rushing
game from a running back through the first five. Does
that say more about our talent or the lack thereof
of our prior opponents?

Speaker 6 (13:56):
I mean, Buffalo, the best run offense in the league
coming into the.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
Defense has been good.

Speaker 7 (14:00):
I'm starting to believe. I'm starting to believe. I mean
I was skeptical early on. I think early you know,
like I said, stats sometimes can be deceiving, matchups can
be deceiving, you know, even like Ashtrion Genty looks a
lot better now than he did in Week one. But
I'm starting to believe in those guys, and you know,
there are there are going to be some plays.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
To be made.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
How does Tavia help versatility?

Speaker 6 (14:20):
I think I thought he helped a little bit last
week too. I thought, you know, early downs, and not
to pick on Christian Ellis, but I think he's just
sturdier and just a better run defender than Christian Ellis.
And even if it's just like a first and second
down roll, or you know, if they go into big
personnel you know, twelve, you know, twenty one, like those
types of sets where they have multiple tight ends on

(14:40):
the field, I think Tavia is just better i'd stopping
the run than a guy like Kristianellis. I love how
Jack Gibbons plays. He plays with his hair on fire,
but he can play a little bit too much recklessly
and so like DIVI, just being kind of like a
steady gap plugging linebacker I think could be helpful.

Speaker 7 (14:58):
My bigger question is just to he gonna be on
the field and Nickel with Spallane as the two off
the ball guys. Yeah, I think we saw more of
them last week when they would go into base and
they would put him on the edge, and I thought
he was pretty good there. He lost it once but
it wasn't a huge gain.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
But he's a physical guy.

Speaker 7 (15:13):
It's just they don't have a lot of depth on
the edge, and especially with Chase on out and now
we don't know what's going on with Keyon White.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
You know, he had an elbow injury in the game.

Speaker 7 (15:20):
So I think he really just helps pad some of
that uncertainty on the edge.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Give you some options, okay, blue Kwala, David writes in
if the Patriots go down to the Saints and play
an okay game and end up losing, would that be
the defining moment to what this team and overall season
will be. We get hot then cold, up then down.
Sorry if you all have disgusted, I never get to
listen to Live, so I have to wait till it's
on Spotify.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
I hope not. I hope not.

Speaker 7 (15:44):
Yeah, I mean, I you know, I don't really feel
like it's been like that. I mean the last couple
of weeks. It feels like it's kind of been kind.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
Of building a little bit of building.

Speaker 8 (15:51):
Yeah, so we'll see.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
But this is a great I mean, I love to hear.
I'd love to hear what the stat is, Paul.

Speaker 7 (15:55):
You had a great stat last week, I think from
Felgi about Rabel's record as the big time favorite. What's
this record as a big time underdog to those games?
You know, just a little bit of a little bit
of a stat too.

Speaker 4 (16:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
I don't know what the numbers are as a favorite,
but yeah, I mean that it played out. You know,
he was four and four as a touchdown plus underdog
and now he's five and four. Yeah, in that scenario,
while the rest of the league has a winning percentage
of seventeen percent during that time.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah. Yeah, Well, Paul, we were talking before the show.
One of your guys on the radio, Joe Murray, pointed
out last night that in the history of the Patriots
regular season, they have never won three road games in
a row, you know, stretch of you know, three in
a row. So I thought that was interesting. It's I

(16:43):
can understand that's pretty hard. It's hard to do in
the NFL to go on the road and win three
straight road games.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
Regular season, and you're talking about three and three straight weeks,
three straight weeks. I know that you knew that, but
I would just want to make sure that fans, you know,
they went undefeated in O seven, I think they won
three r They didn't have.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Three in a row during that season. So did we
fight out how many times they've had the opportunity.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
No.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
I did quick AI search and it said that that
is completely able to quantify that, but it has happened,
so I'm sure that I'm not doing it right.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
It's user error.

Speaker 6 (17:19):
Yeah, it's a it's a good point. I mean, we
don't play in the games, and we feel these some
of these road trips and like it's also New Orleans
and then it's Nashville. So it's like you got to
be disciplined, like you got to be like ready, and
you got to be locked in, you know, in these situations.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Like I mean, it's more likely that in this three
road game stretch they'll lose one then win all three,
right probably statistically.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
I mean, I just feel like I'm like Bizarro Paul,
Like I can't see them losing one of these two games,
the Cleveland game, even though it's at home. I can
see a scenario where that game could be trouble because
I think that they could muck you down into low
scoring game because they play good defense. I just don't
see either one of these two teams having what it
takes to beat them. But you guys have done a

(18:08):
good job in the first eighteen minutes of the show
convincing me that it can happen.

Speaker 4 (18:12):
No, because they shouldn't.

Speaker 6 (18:13):
They shouldn't lose the game, Like we're all in agreement
with that.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
But you know skill line early line three and a
half Patriots, Yeah, six and a half.

Speaker 6 (18:22):
I'll just give like a quick like non Patriots example
in London last weekend, apparently Jordan Addison like skipped a
team walkthrough to go like sight seeing in London and
they suspended him for like the first half of the
game or something like that.

Speaker 4 (18:38):
It's like Coleman got suspended from showing up.

Speaker 6 (18:41):
And I'm not saying like I'm using a different team
on purpose, because I'm not saying any of our guys
would do that, But when you go to happens, Yeah,
these cities that are fun to be in, Like that's
a discipline thing, like you have to is the everybody
locked in as everyone ready to play, Like I don't
think it's because the Saints are good enough to beat
the Patriots straight up. But if it's a second straight

(19:03):
road trip and you got home late on Monday morning and.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
It's just, yeah, it started sloppy.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
I just look at the you know the cliche like
if they if you want to be sloppy and you
want to turn the ball over, you can lose you
can lose to anybody. The Giants are not a great team,
and they were dominating the Saints last week until they
decided to turn the ball over on five consecutive possessions
and all of a sudden, they're down two scores and
they lose.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
Yeah, like it can happen.

Speaker 7 (19:28):
Jules from upstairs chimes in, again, this is from AI,
so it could be wrong. But twenty seventeen, three consecutive
road games in December, Bills, Dolphins, Steelers, So that sound
right to you, guys. In twenty twenty Chargers Rams Dolphins.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
They didn't win them, Yeah, but they had three games
they had they had an opportunity to win three.

Speaker 6 (19:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:47):
That's also yeah, it says it's happened several times now.

Speaker 6 (19:50):
Yeah, they're right right about twenty seventeen Bill's Dolphins, Steelers.
They lost that they lost to Miami. Twenty seven twenty,
they be Pittsburgh and they beat Buffalo. Was that the
I remember the twenty seven twenty game against Miami because
it was on my birthday and I had like the
whole night plan because the Patriots are playing on Monday

(20:11):
night football on my birthday. And then they lost the
Dolphins and I yeah, twenty seven twenty.

Speaker 4 (20:17):
I lost my fun.

Speaker 5 (20:18):
They lost.

Speaker 6 (20:21):
Really it was like.

Speaker 5 (20:24):
Night.

Speaker 6 (20:24):
Yeah, and they did not play well either. It was
they they played, you know, for Brady, they played slot.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Yeah, uh, Franklin and Baltimore. I agree, Rattler is not
a quarterback the Patriots should fear, so naturally comes Sunday,
it'll have his best game as a pro and made
to look like the second coming of Breeze. I can't
tell you how many times the Patriots have gone against
a functional starter, only to be shocked that they played
better than we expect. Gino Smith anyone, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
Geno Smith is light years better than this.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yes, yeah.

Speaker 7 (20:51):
And I would just say I'm in the I'm in
the honeymoon phase right now with this defense of like
being like they're too aggressive to like let anybody sit
back there. And you know, I kind of agree with
the general sentiment when back when, you know, you kind
of sit there and build the wall and have some time.
I mean, I never love that on early downs, and
you know, now it feels like they're coming to get
these guys.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
So I just like that. I like that approach for.

Speaker 7 (21:11):
A number of reasons, including avoiding a letdown, Like you're
just you're gonna go there and be aggressive, like just
you want to fly around and make mistakes one hundred
miles an hour. And I just I think it's maybe
harder to have a letdown when you that's your playing
style and how you're going to go into an attitude
of aggression him just we're gonna leave it all out there.

Speaker 6 (21:26):
And that's why when the email was asking, like I
think Kamara is a potential mismatch against their linebackers, But
are you going to trust Rattler to like sit there
and read it out and get to the matchup and
then like consistently make those decisions over and over again?
And even if he does, Like how many yards are
they really going to generate off of little angle routes

(21:47):
out of the backfield to Alvin Kamara swing pass it?
Like it's one thing you know that in Miami a
Chan broke a tackle and goes thirty yards to a touchdown.
I don't know if that's in Kamara's bag anymore. Yeah,
you know, so if it's like eight or not ten
yards at a time, I just I don't know if
you win that.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Way to you a point in Mike's point, he's averaging
four and a half yards pretty catch, yeah on seventeen catches.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
Okay, per catch. Yeah, so he's.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
Not breaking off a lot of those thirty yard you
know angle routes. One other guy. You know, I'm thinking
back to the last I think it was the last
time they played the Saints here. It was a Mac
Jones game and it was a mess. Right yeah, now
thinking of like Taysom Hill, yep was it was a
factor in that game of fight.

Speaker 8 (22:34):
Another one of the guys.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
He's back. He came back last week, which.

Speaker 6 (22:37):
Is what so strange that he's still on the team.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
Yeah, I thought you were making fun of me for
like bringing out Taysom Hill. Now they used to, they
used to want they used to last week a little bit. Yeah, sure,
which is he threw pass yeah yeah.

Speaker 6 (22:49):
And it's so bizarre to me because I think Spencer
Ratler is a better runner and so like there you go,
and I get it, Taysom Hill.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
Is bigger and he's the power guy.

Speaker 6 (22:58):
Yeah, but like they go to ta a Mill on
these design quarterback runs and I'm like I was the defense,
I'd be like bring it, like cool.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
I used to say that when he did this when
Drew Brees was still there.

Speaker 6 (23:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
I used to say if I was the opponent, I'd
be thrilled every time they do it. Yeah, you're taking
a Hall of Fame quarterback off the field to let
him run.

Speaker 7 (23:17):
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, you pequed my interest, Paul, I
get it. I think I blocked that game out like many.

Speaker 6 (23:22):
Of Oh, it was a it was a blove.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
Well, there were two games that I that I'm thinking of,
and I think that the New Orleans won. I think
they beat him twice.

Speaker 6 (23:31):
The Saints. One against Mac Jenns boxbook. He threw picked
six like very early on in.

Speaker 4 (23:35):
The the second half.

Speaker 7 (23:36):
Yeah, twenty three, twenty twenty three, October thirty four to
thirty four to That.

Speaker 6 (23:41):
Was right after I was Dallas and New Orleans back
to back.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Was there another game he lost him in twenty one
as well?

Speaker 3 (23:47):
The twenty eight thirteen game was Jameis Winston, I believe,
and Taysom Hill ran like they ran the clock out
of the end.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
YEP.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
It was twenty one thirteen and they just ran the
ball down the field and Taysom Hill ended that drive
and ended the game with a touchdown. So there was
two different games that I was thinking.

Speaker 7 (24:05):
Of, thirty four to nothing. It started off halfway through
the first quarter with a Honey Badger twenty seven yard
picked six.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
Yeah, and I think they had another one and like
a John hu Smith like served up on a platter
kind of pick.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Foster Moreau, oh fostered.

Speaker 4 (24:20):
The island of Foster more.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Dark days.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
But when Evan brought up the angle Rau for Camara,
I think that he had one of those. And I
think Jamis Winston may have hit him for one of
those in one of those two games. Like all the
things that you would go in and say, well, you
can't let Kamara do this, man, Let's say let Kamara
do that.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Let's see who's this Robin Coventry. I'm brimming with confidence
after this weekend and hoping for an unbeaten October. However,
if you could guarantee a winning streak of three games
in a row, which would you choose? There's four options, Saints, Titans, Browns, Falcons, Bucks, Jets, Bengals, Giants, Bills,

(25:02):
or Ravens, Jets, Dolphins three in a row.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
Probably Bengals, Giants, Bills, because that would be you sweep
Buffalo and you you should win the division if you could.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Sweep what about raven Jets Dolphins? So you end the season.

Speaker 7 (25:16):
I mean that's appealing to me, but there are also
two crappy teams at the end, and you know, I
win at Ravens is even I don't care when it's
like That's.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
Why I always say, and it's hard because you don't
know how it's gonna win full but the whole. And
I know you weren't doing this yesterday. You were just
kind of playing the role, but like the whole. Like
if you told me they were going to be three
and two before well, yeah, if you told me before
the season started they were going to be three and two,
I'd be thrilled. But did you tell me that two
of the wins were going to be at Miami and
at Buffalo, Because then I would say, I don't want

(25:45):
to be three and two.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
I want to be better.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
I want to be at least four and one, at
least if I if I won the two hardest games
on paper on the schedule. Mm hm, like that's you know,
I lost to Vegas. Like that's not good.

Speaker 8 (25:57):
That's not good, Bob.

Speaker 6 (25:58):
I just that opener. I am still trying to figure
out like what from the game plan perspective, like what
was what were they doing?

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Lets it felt like you woke up and you're like, oh, crap,
the games today.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
We got to put a game.

Speaker 6 (26:15):
Defensively just like running blitz it after blitz after blitz,
and then offensively it was like it was like line
and they're just training camp offense with no and the
next week it doesn't matter now, like yeah, but like
it right.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
It was the first game and maybe you know, yeah, yeah,
but like.

Speaker 6 (26:35):
It was so opposite. Like offensively, it was the first
game and they came out like very vanilla, and then
defensively they did the total opposite and they just came
after Guno Smith and we're running all these crazy like
double corner blitzes and like all this stuff. And so
like if you wanted to just go the extension of
the preseason route, wouldn't you think you would do it
on both sides of the ball.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Right, we'll grab jos He says, My wife's pregnant with
our first child, doing January congratulations, and we're searching for
boys names. She's already vetoed Brady and Julian, so any
sneaky suggestions I can put on the table Drake Bronk Kronk,

(27:16):
Like look at your family, and you know, instead of
these wacky names like and whatever, you do, give the
kid a name knowing that someday he's going to be
an adult. You know, no no Scooter or you know,
all these all these little names that it's cute when
you're two years old, but someday you're going to be

(27:36):
thirty and you know, like tell me about it. Yeah,
Like some of these parents, they just think their kid's
going to be a kid for the rest of their
life and they give him this name that is not
an adult name. It's not appropriate.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Fred should come back around.

Speaker 8 (27:51):
I mean Fred, there's out there.

Speaker 9 (27:53):
You know.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Fred's okay, Fred's the guy next door name.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Baby's like a little baby Fred.

Speaker 5 (27:59):
I I don't.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Particularly love Fred, That's hilarious. I prefer to go by
Jake Steele.

Speaker 7 (28:08):
I think Mike's are MIC's are dying down too, Like
there was Mike's everywhere in my generation. Like I mean,
I were four of us on the hockey team in
my roommate was a Mic for four years.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Mike is ageless, Mike Mike goes like Mike is just cast.

Speaker 10 (28:20):
Sometimes I don't know who you can wear many velder
there's Reese, there's Rabel, there.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
Are I mean, but I'm like Fred, I kind of
gravitate to the traditional names. I think there's a reason why,
you know, people have been named that for one hundred
two hundred years.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yeah, Like if there's like a great grandfather or grandmother
and your family that you want to resurrect, I think
that's cool, like keep the name going, that's your family.
But these you know, oh, we're gonna name our daughter Tuesday, and.

Speaker 6 (28:50):
Why because Wednesday?

Speaker 2 (28:54):
You know, like I think I think names should have meaning,
meaning and not just oh they sound cool to say.

Speaker 6 (29:01):
Yeah it was the celebrity named their kid apple, Yeah,
not the other.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
You know, our child special, So we're going to give
them a specially like get over it.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Like we wanted to name our kids something that was
a little bit different, angry about, not too weird.

Speaker 7 (29:18):
So my kids are Tyson and Campbell, and you know
they're like kind of common, but that's weird.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
I was waiting unique enough that you know what's going on.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
And Campbell it's a lot of souper. We love American
food things.

Speaker 6 (29:32):
That's what we were watching Monday Night Football the other night,
and Tyson Campbell was playing for the Jaguars, and Jess
was like, oh, Tyson Campbell, and I.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
What about the receiver from the.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Family.

Speaker 6 (29:44):
No, Jordan Tyson, but it's t y s o N.

Speaker 8 (29:49):
That's how I spelled.

Speaker 6 (29:50):
That's how your c y s O N.

Speaker 8 (29:52):
Yeah, well, how else would you spell Tyson?

Speaker 6 (29:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Nowadays get through.

Speaker 6 (30:00):
I don't think I ever meant anybody.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
So we got a Campbell first, you know, first picked
last year.

Speaker 8 (30:04):
We got a Tyson this year. That will work great
for me.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
All right? A five five patch five hundred is the
hot line. You can see it on the screen. Uh,
let's go see what people have to say. We'll start
with Anthony and Seattle. What's up Anthony, Hey, hey, hey,
uh I.

Speaker 11 (30:21):
Have two quick things that'll get off the line. One thing,
this might be more of a heavy thing. I'm curious
to know. Are you still seeing kind.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
Of get open on film?

Speaker 11 (30:31):
And it's just it seems like to be this unchanted
thing where him and like the next of the you
know one speaking thing about the May night, it was
I think the first touchdown of the night was about
to happen when they rolled out to the left and
we're gonna get Pop in the hands and the deal
defender just barely deflected. And I'm just curious, like the

(30:52):
just seeing that up to and is that like encouraging
a kind of.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Is popcast? Okay?

Speaker 4 (31:01):
Thanks?

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Your speaker's phone sucks a little bit.

Speaker 6 (31:03):
I thought this was Pop's best game on tape.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
I thought he was just in the blocking game too.

Speaker 6 (31:09):
Yeah, I thought the best overall game he played this year.
He ran a really good route on one of the
rolling pockets where he like kind of set up the
defender got up, the field broke and kind of you know,
came back to the quarterback along the sideline. He was
wide open on one of the blitzes, might have been
the coffee House deuce, might have been the coffee House

(31:30):
and Drake just you know, left the pocket, but he
was on a slant right behind the blitz and he
was open in the middle of the field. And then
the blocking threw on Stefan Diggs's thirty yard catch was
the same as the one he threw the week before
for Hunter Henry giving effort in the blocking game caught
a screen was opened a couple of times down the field.
I thought this was much much better, Like the route

(31:52):
running like the one the catch he made along the sideline,
like terrific catch. That's a great catch. And I don't
think that's really his game. No, you know, toe tap
and extension and.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
Great body can gut it route.

Speaker 6 (32:04):
So yeah, I mean, look, I don't know if he's
going to come in and catch ten passes this week.
I'm not saying that, but if you wanted to look
for like what the caller was talking about, just like
little things that he's doing well that might catch Todd
Downing and Josh mcdaniels's eye, I would say that that
happened in the Buffalo game.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Would he be your choice?

Speaker 7 (32:22):
If you had to say, who's the next Patriot receiver
other than Dixon Henry to have five or more catches?

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Would you say on that?

Speaker 6 (32:30):
Yeah, maybe I could. I could see Pop having a
breakout game at some point. I don't know if it
will be consistent, Like breakout might not be the right word,
but like having like one of those like peak Pop
games where he's involved and he's getting the ball.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Do you think teams are going to have to change
how they look at Diggs now?

Speaker 3 (32:47):
Like well, that's what I was wanting to as Mike
was asking that question. You know, that's what I was
thinking at some point because Digs is now I mean,
I know the Diggs is, Dix is an elite talent. Like,
so you can say all you want, we're gonna take
Digs out, and he's probably still gonna get his because
he's that good. I mean, that's been his whole career.

(33:07):
He's been a volume catch guy. But at some point
someone's gonna say, well, we're gonna have to make someone
else beat us on the key place. You know, on
those third downs and even fourth downs. We're gonna make
sure that he's not open, so you're gonna have to
throw it to somebody else, is it, Douglas? You know
the way you guys talked about Mac Collins the other day,

(33:29):
like he ran a lot of for the love of
the game, right, you know, like just sort of occupy it,
you know, do you sort of reward him one of
these weeks and say, you know, this might be this
might be a week we can get him four or
five catches, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (33:41):
And he's one of those guys too that puts on
the Chris Hogan a visibility cloak every once in a while,
where like he's like the fourth guy in the progression
and they just kind of forget to cover him. Yeah,
so that could happen with Mac Collins maybe more down
the field, and that.

Speaker 7 (33:54):
Got people down the field maybe you know potential. So
maybe at some point, I just don't Yeah, like you said,
I don't see and volume one of Booty? You know,
does Booty have any ability to have a volume game
and really step up?

Speaker 4 (34:06):
He did in week one?

Speaker 8 (34:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Yeah, Mike and Long Island? What's up? Mike? Hey?

Speaker 12 (34:17):
Hey, uh so I know you got picked tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (34:21):
Try to keep it quick.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Please?

Speaker 13 (34:23):
Three questions about Marcus Joe When is he eligible for
an extension?

Speaker 2 (34:29):
And would you yeah? Right now?

Speaker 5 (34:32):
Two?

Speaker 1 (34:33):
Nice, he's eligible right now?

Speaker 12 (34:35):
Who is the more valuable player Christian Gonzalez the corner
or the versatility of Marcus Jones? And three?

Speaker 13 (34:43):
Who is more electric Marcus Jones with the ball in
ten or uh that guy Brian boot ball hit with
his calls. I'll think of one.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Well, Brian, and he's making fun of Brian the caller.
I think Gonzales is more valuable.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
As the resident president of the Marcus Jones Fan Club.
Gonzalez is a more valuable player I think.

Speaker 7 (35:06):
I think, yeah, Marcus Jones is this is his last
year of his rookie deal, so he'll be a free
agent and he's one of the few current starters that
will be up. I think it's a good question. I
think he played really well last week. So it's hard
to sit here and say, oh, I.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
Don't know one of his better games I think in
the secondary.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Yeah, me too.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
That's exactly because I have been pretty critical of him
at times as a defensive back. I thought he was
really good in that game play down the field. I
know it was Coleman.

Speaker 4 (35:32):
I know he's not that good, but that's the that's
still giving up a lot of size. Yeah, you know,
I thought he was really really good in that.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Yes, that's the thing for me.

Speaker 7 (35:40):
I just I wonder defensively what their preference is because
he's sticky.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
He looked great, but he's.

Speaker 7 (35:46):
Always going to be five foot eight and he's always
going to have a target on him When they have
a big receiver. That's always going to be a matchup
that opponents try to take advantage of, and sometimes they
will and sometimes they won't.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
Last week, he made some plays.

Speaker 7 (35:57):
There have been other examples where he hasn't made those
plays and you just see somebody go up and get it.
So I'm really kind of on the fence. I love
I love the person the leadership vote to captain this year.
He's an elite punt returner. I'd be looking and it
goes a long way, So I think there, I think
there should be a spot. I just I wonder if
maybe they also bring in another guy to kind of
help him with the slot a little bit some of
the matchups. Maybe you can pull back on that and

(36:19):
then maybe put him on kickoff return, you know that
that maybe that's a better way to spread him around
a little bit.

Speaker 6 (36:24):
Yeah, I I would be I mean, I'm big Marcus
Jones fan. I think he plays much bigger than his
size and I totally maybe tackles extremely well at his size.
And I think in man coverage he's really been mostly
really good. I mean, when you have to cover Shakir
on a crossing route and there's no help, like I mean,
that's a hot that's one on one, like literally training

(36:45):
camp one on ones, you know like that that's hard
to do. But he's he's a good player. Now ideally,
is he maybe like your third and a half corner,
where like in some matchups he plays a little bit
more in the nickel than other matchups. Like yeah, yeah,
I could hear that, but I think with the value
that he brings as a returner, like, it's more than
valuable enough to give him a second contract between the

(37:08):
two of him playing a role on defense and being
an all pro caliber punt returner. It's yeah, I mean
one of fifty three spots. I think we can give
one to the guy like that.

Speaker 7 (37:19):
Yeah, I mean a couple a little more, if everybody's
okay with a little more, you know, free agent talk
of just you know, Austin Hooper will be up like
you know, do you?

Speaker 1 (37:26):
I mean, I like him.

Speaker 7 (37:27):
I think he's a good complimentary piece to you. At
some point though, say we got to get younger at
the tight end position. We need to add maybe a
little bit more of a raw, dynamic kind of threat.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
I would expect tight end to be near the top
of their draft list next year.

Speaker 6 (37:41):
It's not a great class. So they've had some really
good tight end classes the last couple of years, and
this is not shaping up to be one of them,
so that's a factor. But I just wonder with Hooper,
he's such a pro that, like I don't know if
he would necessarily like raise a stink if he's not
playing as much as he's playing now, right, Like if

(38:02):
he comes, if they draft a tight end and let's
say that tight end ends up developing and is better
than Austin Hooper and he really becomes like the third
tight end, but maybe they use him in goal line
and like short yardage blocking and things like that, Like
he's not one of those types of guys that's gonna
be like you know, down in the dumps and like
it's always cancer.

Speaker 7 (38:22):
Injury position too, Like it feels like you always are
going to lose one of those guys for some portion
of the season. And of course your guy Tonga too,
and Chase on a couple of you know, just there's
not a lot of free agents next year, which I.

Speaker 6 (38:33):
Like, and you just have to pay improves.

Speaker 5 (38:35):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
So we Gino from New Jersey just want to say,
appreciate you guys for all that you do, especially Paul
and Evan. Thanks to Evan and his ball knowledge, I'm
able to properly have conversations with people and break down
the play calling of what the team does. And thanks
to Paul, I'm able to properly be snarky and counter
argue with people if I don't agree with their takes
and tell them how wrong they are. You guys are

(38:57):
amazing at what you do, and keep up the great work.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
Something told me that was going to be a backhanded compliment,
but I don't take it.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
You don't take it? Yes, uh, Tim our friend from
Duncan great win Sunday night, best winning a long time.
I think we all need to give Paul Parrillo the
props he deserves for calling the outcome of the game
throughout the week, whether it was on Get Filtered or
Patriots All Access. He was confident the Patriots would pull
the upset as most everyone who's picking against them. Just

(39:26):
showed how well he knows the team and how they
are trending. So on All Access, were you the only
one that picked the Patriots?

Speaker 4 (39:33):
Well, it's just Mike and I. You know, Steven say
Steve Berry.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Steve doesn't really make a pick, but he gets mad
at Mike and I if we happen to pick against him.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Sim and a dagger to the heart for Reese to.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
Get hear you the Patriots. So I believe in the
entire time. And then we've been doing it together probably
for close to ten years now. I don't ever remember
a time, not a single time, that I picked the
Patriots when he didn't. Now, normally it's Patriots all Access.
We normally picked the Patriots. I mean, it is what
it is. But usually when we pick against them, it's

(40:04):
a pretty obvious spot to pick against them, and we
both do.

Speaker 4 (40:09):
This one he picked up, he was he was still
score score. My score was thirty four to thirty three,
so not really close.

Speaker 8 (40:16):
Mike's was the team.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
I think he said they were going to lose twenty
seven to twenty something like that, which I mean he
actually had a closer view with the game, like you
had to drink me I did. I fen't think it
was going to go down to the last drive. Shoot,
there's not a lot of stuff. There's not a lot
of stuff that happened that I kind of. I thought
the Patriots would run the ball, well, I thought I

(40:39):
didn't think they could rely on turnovers like you know,
they ended up getting three of them, three takeaways, So
I mean I got it. I guess I'll take it,
but it wasn't really you know, it wasn't a great prediction.

Speaker 7 (40:51):
But it's even more remarkable when you look at how
good Buffalo has been at home, and how long it's
been since they've lost their how clean they played football there.
You know, it's just a really hard place to to win.

Speaker 4 (41:01):
Knock them all, but I did.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
There was something about the way Miami was, I mean,
the way Buffalo was playing that I said, they don't
look like they're really locked in. Yeah, I felt that
if they weren't locked in against the Patriots.

Speaker 7 (41:14):
Do you think that this might be kind of an
epidemic for some of these teams right now?

Speaker 1 (41:18):
Because the Chiefs and.

Speaker 7 (41:19):
The Raid, it's like they're also good for so long
that maybe I don't know, I'm just spitballing of like
holes are starting to pop, or you're just kind of
getting bored.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
I have a different time, and this one might come
back and hot me. I think the Chiefs demise has
been grossly exaggerated. I'm not if I was a Kansas
City fan, I wouldn't be overly worried right now. Then
maybe I'm whistling past the graveyard.

Speaker 6 (41:39):
No, I would agree, but.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
I think Rice is gonna go I think their offense
has already looked exponentially better with Worthy back.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
Yeah, when you.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
Get Rice there too, then Kelsey goes back to what
he should be at this stage of his career and
like sort of a spare part that they you know,
I think the offense really look good again.

Speaker 4 (41:57):
The other night, it's two games in a row.

Speaker 3 (41:59):
They scored twenty eight and they threw a pick six
on the goal line, one hundred yard picked six, so
they probably should have had in the thirties for the
second consecutive game. Mahmes made a mistake and they lost.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
For the Patriots seasons like this over the twenty years though,
where they.

Speaker 7 (42:12):
Got off to a I'm just like, I mean, I
like a two and three start, and.

Speaker 4 (42:16):
They were like one.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
I think they were one in two and five fourteen.
You know, at fourteen they were two and two.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
Kind of you.

Speaker 10 (42:23):
Know, they're not good anymore, but yeah, that's I guess
That's what one of the points I was asking was, like,
is it did they get a little board earlier in
the season, and they're just like, man, we just played
in February, Like we got to be right back out there.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
Were who Chiefs are losing?

Speaker 6 (42:36):
Like, have they lost to like a bad team?

Speaker 2 (42:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (42:40):
No, No, I mean, I mean whatever you think of Jacksonville.

Speaker 4 (42:44):
H I mean the four and one Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
Yeah, they lost to the Chargers, who were playing really
well before they lost their entire offensive line the Eagles,
and they lost to the Eagles when good Kelsey dropped
a touchdown.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
Now they got to play Detroit this week. They could
be two and four.

Speaker 6 (42:58):
Yeah, but if you look at DVA, they're like one
of the best two and three teams in the history
of the NFL.

Speaker 4 (43:04):
So like Jack's Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
Like I had a guy email me yesterday, one of
my buddies, and he was like, you know, this kind
of reminds me just one of those Patriots ys where
it ain't happening for them. I was like, yeah, I
wouldn't write them off just yet.

Speaker 6 (43:16):
Well, not happening for them is them winning eleven games, right.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
But I think they're still gonna win eleven games. They
might not win fifteen. Like, obviously they're not gonna win fifteen.
They've already lost three idiots.

Speaker 6 (43:27):
But okay, thought Tyson was spelt different.

Speaker 14 (43:30):
T I T A I Dash Scooter Steele in Nantucket,
writing in later that was well done.

Speaker 5 (43:40):
Star.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
It gets better even Evan in the Bills game. Was
Drake bailing out of the pocket or was it more
of a design rollout? I've been paying close attention to
rollouts and escaping ever since my dad, Jake left from
Milk and never returned.

Speaker 6 (43:54):
How do I answer that, j Steele?

Speaker 2 (43:56):
I go, I think a lot of them were bailing out, right, Yeah, I.

Speaker 6 (44:00):
Think he bailed out. And this is something we talked
a little bit about on Catch twenty two. And uh,
you know, I think it's the quarterbacks nowadays when they
see free runners on blitzers, they're not standing in the pocket.
They're not hanging out. Okay, So like a lot of
people want to see him, you know, beat the blitz
with the pass and stand in the pocket, and he

(44:20):
throws the slant right behind the blitzer, and YadA, YadA, YadA, like,
go watch Alan, go watch Mahomes, go watch Lamar, go
watch Jordan Love. Like these guys don't play like that anymore.
And I'm not saying that that's right or wrong. Like
the old quarterback coaches would say, we have a slant
right behind the blitz, you know, just stand in the pocket,

(44:42):
take the hit and throw the slant. They might be
right that that might be a cleaner way of playing quarterback.
These these guys like Drake that are mobile, that are athletes,
they're not going to play that way. They're just not.
They're gonna get outside the pocket, they're gonna get on
the move, and they're gonna make a play. And that's
just the way it is nowadays. So there was a
handful of times in this game where he either sensed

(45:05):
pressure or there was legitimate pressure and he just bailed.
He got out of dodge, and yeah, he probably missed
some throws you know in structure as a result, but
he also hit a thirty two yard bomb just Stefon
digs off platform.

Speaker 7 (45:20):
So it's like, well, that's like, what would you choose
as a defense, like, you know, to give up the
little slant that you know or he extends to play
And now you're looking at some of the plays we
saw me, like, what would you pick?

Speaker 4 (45:30):
I'm going to button hook you.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
If I were Buffalo, I would take my chances with
exactly the way the game unfolded and said, let's see
you complete those passes.

Speaker 4 (45:38):
Again, because I think the first time I think he.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
Was exceptional in the second half of that game, and
I think Stefan Diggs was was every bit as exceptional.

Speaker 6 (45:45):
That's why I said, like, I'm not this isn't like
you old timers, Like this isn't one of the like
you they that might be the right way to do it, right,
I'm just telling you that like the elite quarterbacks in
the league today, they don't do it like that. Like
they don't They're not brady, They're not standing there staring
down the barrel and they're just going to replace the

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blitz with the ball like that's that old adage. They
don't do it like that anymore.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
For better or worse, Barton Poland shout out to Andy Borregalis,
the absolute cohonies on that man. I know that fifty
two isn't maybe that impressive in today's NFL, but with
his struggles in the situation of that kick, I don't
think he could have kicked it more perfectly. I'm dead serious.
That kick would have been good from seventy I've never
seen a ball hit the net that high on a

(46:31):
fifty plus yard field goal, and it was perfectly in
the middle. And then he followed it up with an
absolutely perfect kickoff.

Speaker 4 (46:37):
They agree about the kickoff.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
That was an underrated, like game ender, there's no chance
that they're scoring after that kick.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
Yeah, we did a.

Speaker 6 (46:46):
Little bit on catch twenty two because Barringer. I can
only imagine had the three had the seventy three yard
punt on Buffalo's final drive that put them on a
long field, which was a huge field position win. And
then Borgales drills the game winner and then has a
really good kickoff on the ensuing kickoff, and then they
actually drew a hold on the kickoff too, so that

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drive started at Buffalo's eighteen yard line. They like nowadays,
you return the ball to the thirty five yard line.
They only need a field goal to tie the game.
It's two first downs and you know, a twenty yard
bomb by Allen and they're in field goal.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
Range right like he kicked that down to you know,
between the one and the two, if you know, if
he's off a little bit and that goes in the
end zone and they get the they don't have any
time come off the clock and they get the ball
to the thirty five.

Speaker 4 (47:31):
He landed it perfectly.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
That was a perfect kickoff, and you can trast that
to the Miami one where you know.

Speaker 6 (47:38):
You and Barthur Kindred spirits.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
But I think that that was an underrated big play
in the game. His kickoff at the end the fifty
two yard are they get made at an astronomical rate
in the league, Like yeah, I mean these guys are
just really good. I say this all the time. I
just need a kicker who makes the kicks when he
needs to make. He missed two extra points. It's not
like he's missed seven field goals. It's not like Chad
right on his rookie year he missed two extra points

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one game.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
They got it, they kick it.

Speaker 4 (48:04):
Be fine. Yeah, I'm not worried about it.

Speaker 7 (48:06):
Just highlight to the number of rookies that are playing,
you know, and it's not all like, oh, they're not
all Pro Bowlers right now. But just going from being
such an old team bad drafts, you feel encouraged just
about the youth and especially the experience that the youth
guys got winning up in Buffalo, you know, to check
that off. Frabel said it was something his dad pointed
out to me. Where the left side of your line

(48:27):
is starting, you're got a starting safety who's going to
play every snap, you know. So it's just it's exactly
what this team needed. Hopefully all those guys continue to
develop and become good players. And then I think you're
really talking about the Patriots having some staying power.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Uh, Mike Wrights saying everybody he calls himself Sweeney in Providence. Evan,
you're going raving, okay, off to the locker room and Mike.

Speaker 4 (48:51):
Rabel indoor practice today.

Speaker 11 (48:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (48:54):
Right.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
As a lifelong Pats fan that was raised in Buffalo,
I have the habit of listening to the popular Bills
podcasts and radio shows before and after a Bill's Patriots matchup.
This habit has been a depressing one for half a
decade now, but Sunday Night's game has shifted the dynamic.
Bill's media is spending a good portion of their time

(49:15):
discussing how the Bill's got a taste of their own
Josh Allen medicine courtesy of Drake May and how the
comparison of Drake to Josh look very real. What's more,
it's just a few weeks ago Paul was cursing the
idea of penciling in wins, but as of this week,
that's exactly what the Bills mafia is doing with the
Patriots schedule. We have one of the best teams in

(49:36):
the league sweating a little bit and that is a
very satisfying outcome. Love you guys. Keep it up. We've
got our eye. And what should we name the Sunday
Night What should we name the Sunday Night game? That
Drake's Game or D's coming out? I don't have a name.

Speaker 8 (49:52):
No, I'll get back to you on that one.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
No name. It's not a game with a name.

Speaker 4 (49:56):
Like, there's nothing like usually the name games.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
Something really out of the ordinary happens, you know, and
aside from an upset.

Speaker 4 (50:04):
I'm like, you don't want to just call the upset?

Speaker 2 (50:06):
Yeah, we beat the Bills. That was out of the ordinary.

Speaker 4 (50:08):
Not really.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
Well, it could end up being the passing of the
torch game.

Speaker 4 (50:13):
Oh well, I think in three years you might be
able to give it a name. Yeah yeah, if that happens.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
Drake and Stuff coming out party?

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
How about the penalty fast I just I mean everyone
seems mind for like twenty five penalties. How about the
penalty fest tie too? Not as the Sean Hockey League game,
there's a lot of them. We came to watch you, bro.

Speaker 7 (50:36):
I just, I mean, I everyone's got to meet those
comparisons to who Drake is like. But I just Josh
Allen is such a tank, like I just I can't.
That's where the comparisons end. Like, yes, they're good on
the run and they can throw the ball and they're
rolling out, but that's where it kind of departs from me.
And you know, in some ways it hasn't come to
fruition yet with Josh Allen.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
But I keep saying I said it to you before, Paul.

Speaker 7 (50:57):
It's like it feels like a matter of time at
some point before he just gets whacked and has a
big injury.

Speaker 4 (51:01):
Oh I say this.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
I don't want it to happen those guys, But I
feel like the other night Dake definitely took some shit,
does not protect himself well when he runs.

Speaker 7 (51:08):
But like it's different in that Josh Allen is ready
to take that car, and I feel like Drake should
develop the weight, but he's more of like sleek and
if you can get away to slide and get out
of it, you know, like Josh has no problem with
just I'm going right through everybody. I don't care and
you know it hasn't come up to be a problem
for him yet, but.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
It's it's like he predetermines, I'm going to be a
power runner on this on this particular.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Right, Drake doesn't have that gene. He's taking some big hands.

Speaker 4 (51:31):
I think Drake runs with the power.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
But I do think the comparisons are to me, they're
pretty pretty evident. I mean, I think they play in
a very similar style. They both have excellent arms. I
think Alan is bigger and definitely stronger. But I mean
I understand why coming out of North Carolina people made
those comparisons.

Speaker 4 (51:51):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
I think there's a lot of similarities to the way
they want to play.

Speaker 7 (51:55):
I guess just my hope is that Drake can continue
to learn not to take contact but still be a
fact with his legs and keep moments, get down, protect yourself,
will pick up first downs and you know, avoid the
big hits like I mean, he got smoked on that.
It was one run that he really got here like
in the air and the guy kind of hit him
mid air.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
And I mean it wasn't it wasn't James Cook when
he was already down contact, but it was it was good.

Speaker 4 (52:15):
It was big contents of my favorite hits of all time.
I just I'm telling you so hard, like just how
aggressive it was.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
And James Cook was like, here you go, wrap the boom.

Speaker 4 (52:26):
What happened was I thought he was giving the ball
to Josh.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
Yeah right, it's a play fucker kill him. A lot
of emails coming in calls. We'll get to them in
a second.

Speaker 5 (52:37):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Jeff and Canada, my son is a senior in high
school and only listens when I have it on the
car your show. However, he loves the Mike Dusseau song,
the one that uses the Dak Prescott here we Go.
I often hear him singing and around the house. Last
night he asked me what episode it was and I
couldn't find it. If possible, can you play it or
put it up as a short on YouTube so he

(52:59):
can screen grab it. Also, remind me the name of
the lady in New Hampshire who created this music. I
want her to get her props for creating a song.
Even gen Z likes, yeah, that's chill.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
I know we've had a couple of kids.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
We have that here we Go Drake may I mean
Dak Prescott. Yeah, we have that song.

Speaker 7 (53:18):
We can play when I get back from locker room.
If you want to look for it, just look on
sounder to Douce, I think.

Speaker 4 (53:25):
Okay, here we go, might do so shout out.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
All right, uh eight five five pass five hundred. We're
waiting for Mike Rabel. He should be coming up any
minute now. But let's quickly go to Randy in Providence.
What's up Randy?

Speaker 13 (53:44):
Hey, So a couple quick things. Number One, I think
games is game, Like everybody's talking about the reception of
the targets, the yards. But Matt he was the consummate
teammate and felt like even when the defense was coming
off the field, he was there up in their face,
telling him a great job, you know, stuff like that.

(54:06):
And I thought that kind of got a little bit
glossed over because of all the great numbers that he
put up, you know. And it's there was a lot
of talk about him being a locker room problem, trying
to hear him being signed, and I think he's just
the complete opposite there. And given his history in Buffalo,
I just hope that continues and it wasn't a specific
Buffalo thing. And then on the running backs, I turned

(54:30):
tune in a little bit late you guys might have
covered this. Do you think there's a running back on
the market that they'd be looking at, because there are
a couple of teams with good running backs that don't
have a good outlook, namely you know, Derrick Henry has
got to be the obvious one, right and then Alvin Kamara.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Also, Yeah, I mean we did talk about that a
little bit yesterday, thanks Randy.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
People really think the Ravens are going to unplug the season? Oh,
like they're not even going to show up for the
rest of the schedule.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Oh, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (54:58):
There's still the odds on favorite to when the ac
all that.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
Yeah, Paul thinks it's too early. The deadline is what
two weeks.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
No, I'm not interested in Derreck Henry and I whatever.
But I'm just I'm trying to figure out why Baltimore
is going to say, well, we three weeks ago, we
thought we were a super Bowl team. It hasn't worked
out because we had a couple of injuries, so we
might as well just pack it in and trade everybody,
all right, I don't see that happening. Take Kyle Hamilton now,
maybe three weeks from now, if they lose three more
in a row and at one and seven that's different.

Speaker 7 (55:26):
Yeah, I mean I think he's the model. I mean,
you want an early down guy, but I mean that's effective.
He's been fumbling.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
If you like Rimandra Stevens is fum, you love Derek Henry.

Speaker 7 (55:37):
You know, it's that's what we talked about, is you know,
is Terrell Jennings is gonna get a chance? I like
there's part of me that thinks that that's the kind
of program very able wants that. If you're on the
practice squad and somebody gets hurt on the roster you've
been working here. You know, maybe I'm wrong, but I
see that as all right, this is going to be
the But.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
Do you think if if we see a continuation of
the effectiveness of Diggs and Booty and the receivers get
more into the will it help the running game? I
mean not that I think we're averaging like over four
yard to carry right now. No, we're not.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
I don't think sure exactly what that is. But they're bad.
I mean, they're the worst rushing team in the EAD.

Speaker 4 (56:12):
But do you think could age yea three seven three
point seven?

Speaker 2 (56:18):
But could it get better if if the pass, if
the passing game continues to be that threat that teams
have to be like, oh.

Speaker 8 (56:25):
Yeah, well that's why.

Speaker 7 (56:26):
I just I see it as the most critical component
for the offense to develop here in the coming weeks.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
And it would be worse than that if it weren't
from May. Hey average is over four big runs.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
Yeah, yeah, it's uh.

Speaker 7 (56:37):
I mean, I think Paul brought up Jamichael Hasty, who's
been around. I just thought because he was here here.
I mean, but there's some veterans kind of guy no socks.
Brings up Gus Edwards, the gust Buss, like just a
proven NFL type I think would would make sense. Mike
has mentioned Zach Moss. I think some of those kinds.
I don't want to invest anything and get Derek Henry.

(56:59):
I mean, obviously Derek Henry is a far superior player
to any of the guys that we're talking about, but
that costs you something to get him, something to pay him, like.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
Like Stephen Jackson, I don't care about.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
Like the ghost the ghost of Stephen Jackson. Like the
course of Stephen Jackson game. You know, he has some
big runs for touchdowns even this year.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
Henry.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
Yeah, you know, but it hasn't been overly effective on
a down to down basis, and it's there's some statistical breakdowns.
I think that would open your eyes for how much
Baltimore struggled with him, not just the fumbles.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
Danny and Daytona, what's up, Danny?

Speaker 7 (57:35):
Heyman, yell, Now we can't.

Speaker 4 (57:45):
I just have a take.

Speaker 15 (57:47):
I like how the team. I like how the team played.

Speaker 14 (57:51):
They did.

Speaker 15 (57:53):
Really issue I would have is how the defense had
too many penalties. There was a lot of there was
a lot of bonehead plays that they had made, and
I wasn't too crazy about that. When they get your
Jake Paul on that and then the other Jake. Do
you guys like how they're they're doing on the offense.
They're kind of mixing in the different different plays, the

(58:14):
different passing council.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
Yes, yeah, I just I like the way Drake May
and Stefan dis played the other night.

Speaker 4 (58:23):
I didn't really see much.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
I think. I think Josh McDaniels is doing a good job.
I do. Yep, all right, thanks Danny, thanks for the call.

Speaker 4 (58:34):
Uh yeah, penalties were you know, yeah, the penalties on defense,
the three fifteen yard penalties. You can't have that now,
I mean, maybe maybe you can excuse one, but not three. Yeah,
that's too much.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
Jacob and Nashville. I feel like a very undertalked about
result from the win this weekend is that we are
finally out of the hell that was Patriot fan fracture,
gone to the days of fans rooting for Joe Milton,
Malik Cunningham and Bailey's Appy. Evan had talked about Drake
Maye's elite arm talent that was different than the power

(59:06):
of Milton's elite armed strength. Can y'all talk a little
bit about the different throws he saw from Drake's touch,
power and accuracy. Well, Evan's not here right.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
Now, out your pick, but I mean we've been talking
about it like that's that was the game. The game
was Drake May's ability to make throws off platform as
he's running to the sideline, as he's falling out of bounds,
as he's being dragged down by a defender, little little
dumpoffs while getting hit, slight moves in the pocket on

(59:37):
the ball to Booty on the last drive. It was
the total package, Drake may I don't really know if
any if there was really too much in terms of
the Joe Milton stuff like the elite Cunningham that was
Mac Jones. Like since May's been here, I don't know
if there's been much of a fracture among Patriots fans
about who should be the quarterback.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
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Speaker 7 (01:00:36):
It looks like huh, yeah, I was just gonna say
I mentioned kool Aid McKinstry.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
He won Defensive Player of the Week for last week.

Speaker 7 (01:00:43):
Two picks right, two picks at the end of Yeah,
he's a physical guy. I mean that's somebody that you know.
I don't think they're really a man match kind of
team where he's going to follow anybody. But I think
he's a good young player for them, and he'll probably
see plenty of stuff on things that would guess.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Matthew thinks the game should have been called snow Melts
in May. You know, I know they were wearing their
rival rings, but that won't it's you won't. It's hard
to remember that five years from now that oh yeah,
they were wearing those white uniforms. If it was snowing
that day, that had been different.

Speaker 7 (01:01:16):
Like Drake and Staph do Buffalo that was that was it,
those two guys going nuts.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
And Oliver in London thinks it should be called the
Drake Digs one out of nowhere. That doesn't really catch. Yeah,
it doesn't have the ring of Harper's muff no, or.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
The the wind game Yeah, snowball, the I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
Know, yeah, Corpse of Stephen Jackson game.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
Right, I'm going to be I'm going to be smarter
than everybody else and kickoff an overtime game.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Marvin writes in Marvin's a Good Friend. He makes great
cornhole custom cornhole he's unbelievable. Yeah, he says. My daughter, Meredith,
is an only child, so that Turner name lineage would
die out when I pass away. So Meredith decided to
name her first son, my first grandson, with Turner as
his first name. See that's what I'm talking about. That

(01:02:10):
that's great, that has meaning. I can't tell you how
great that made me feel when she told me that's
what they're gonna do. And Paul, did you catch the
Emmy tribute to Earth Wind and Fire? It was awesome?

Speaker 4 (01:02:20):
Of course I did. Thanks for asking.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
Appreciate you an alert for that or no, I did.
I watched a little of it. They're just they're just tremendous. Yeah, Like,
I don't know how you cannot be in a good
mood listening to those songs.

Speaker 8 (01:02:34):
Totally. What song came on when we were over at
a red robin last week, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
You're your genre. That something came on.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
I forget what.

Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
Oh it was a tailor remix. I think it was
a tailor dance song.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
But the next day, tip Andre Tippet walked through our
office and he was singing an earth Wind and Fire sung.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
Did you watched last night?

Speaker 5 (01:02:50):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
Yeah, I guess I started, he going, did I? And
then of course he tells me the story. He goes,
did I tell you about the time I was in
the fourth Son with Philip Bailey? Like, okay, Tip, you're cool.

Speaker 5 (01:02:58):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
Kelly says, my son's name is Booker. What do you think, Fred?
His middle name is Bear, after his grandfather, So his
name is Booker Bear. I would have preferred you name
his first name Bear after his grandfather, so I wo
have his middle name.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
I went the middle name too, but he's will is
named after both of his grandfathers, William, Alphonse. When I
told my father that, he goes, don't do that to him.
He goes, he doesn't need that. I go, it's just
a middle name.

Speaker 10 (01:03:28):
Dad, jeez, well my my mylon I could.

Speaker 4 (01:03:32):
I always kind of liked it too. It was different.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
I mean I had, like my parents were Alphonse in Virginia,
two like names that were a little a little different
old country now definitely older.

Speaker 4 (01:03:42):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:03:42):
Well, my grandfather, the Ted Williams, was Clarence and everyone
knew him as Ding. But my dad put Clarence in
the mix briefly, and my mom was like, no, Clarence, No, Clarence.

Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
You imagine no Clarence Clarence. You imagine me Clarence Clarence
do so. We were nobody knew Clarence anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
Right, My great on her first time Clarents do so.
My great aunt's first name was Auxilia and her husband,
uh last name was Salvatore. So it was Auxilia Salvatore.
I thought that was that's a good name, that's a
good solid name.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Well, you know, Clarence's dad was Fred.

Speaker 7 (01:04:16):
It was Fred do So, my great grandfather was a
Fred dou Seller.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
Of course you have someone named Fred. He's variable.

Speaker 4 (01:04:27):
How do you feel since.

Speaker 6 (01:04:28):
He's taken over, Zach has kind of progressed in the
him's play calling duties.

Speaker 16 (01:04:34):
I think everybody over there has done really good job
as far as just organizationally, the communication to put the
plan together, the efficiency to put a plan together, and
the practice preparation and everything else. And you know, I
think he's again, there's no perfect call. I've said this
millions of times, and I as long as our personnel

(01:04:56):
is in the game and the call gets in there
and it's decisive and one that the players understand, uh,
then it's.

Speaker 5 (01:05:04):
A good call.

Speaker 16 (01:05:05):
And we'll have good execution and sometimes we won't have
such great execution. But I mean, I do think that
we haven't had any trouble with those we haven't been
you know, press, we've been in two minute situations. We've
been in you know, third down, we've been you know,
we've stayed in personnel groups, we've changed personnel groups. So,
you know, I think Zach's you know, doing doing a

(01:05:28):
good job, and one need to do a great job
this week for what they do offensively.

Speaker 17 (01:05:32):
Mike, you've talked to us about your input, uh here
and there on offense. What's your level of involved with
the defensive keep playing?

Speaker 5 (01:05:38):
I think it stays the same.

Speaker 16 (01:05:40):
It's I'm trying to be in a lot of different
places and try to.

Speaker 5 (01:05:45):
Help where I can.

Speaker 16 (01:05:46):
I enjoy being you know, defensively, and certainly help offensively
when I can so special teams wise, I think I
try to help where I can talk to both working.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Guys harder after a win, being able to do that.

Speaker 18 (01:06:01):
Past how do you handle an emotional game like that
as far as getting.

Speaker 16 (01:06:06):
Them back mentally, practice and you know, go through meetings,
you focus on new opponent. We don't really know this opponent.
I would say it's as new for a lot of
players here and maybe some coaches here as far as
you know their personnel and what they do and their
skill players offensively and a lave and you know Shaheed

(01:06:26):
and how good Kamara is and Miller coming on and
running as hard as he did. They got all all
their tight ends are available and up ready to go.
So we'll have to understand the difference between Jennings and
you know, when when Taysom's in the game or Moreau
and you know, right on down the line defensively, so
it's a big physical front. You know, I've always you know,

(01:06:50):
appreciated the way to Mario Davis plays the game. And
you know, corners are active, big long play the football
at twenty four PBUs on a season as defense, so
they're creating turnovers.

Speaker 5 (01:07:02):
And that was the difference in the last week's game.

Speaker 7 (01:07:04):
Like there are some of the treats that Terrell Jennings
has that has helped him stick around.

Speaker 16 (01:07:09):
Oh well, I think he's a great teammate. I think
he cares about the team. He's able to play on
special teams, he's able to play on a fourth down.
I think he's got a toughness to him, and I
think he's improved.

Speaker 18 (01:07:22):
Like when you put yourself in the shoes of the players, Uh,
can it be a challenge to show the same energy
and resolve the week after having such a big week
and a big emotional win on Sunday night can be
tough the match at the coming week.

Speaker 8 (01:07:35):
You know, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:07:37):
We have a job to do. It's same every week.
You know, we try to do.

Speaker 16 (01:07:41):
I think that if we are consistent each and every week,
and I think it allows us to you know, get
past some of those things. We're disappointed after we lost,
disappointed after you know, happy when we won, disappointed when
we lost. And you know, I think we've responded, and
you know, we want have to, you know, make sure
that we're we're doing everything that we possibly can to

(01:08:03):
prepare to go on and handle another tough environment and
just you know, being able to handle the road environment
and the crowd noise and everything else. I'm sure they'll
be excited, you know, they played really well last week.
I'm sure they'll have the same great support that they
always have in the dome.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
I know you guys had a money micro practice thought yesterday,
but is that a position you would continue to look
to add to whip Gibson's injury, and.

Speaker 5 (01:08:29):
Then we're continued.

Speaker 16 (01:08:30):
I think they'll probably hopefully look everywhere where we if
there's somebody that we feel like can help us, whether
that's at running back or any other position.

Speaker 5 (01:08:39):
But right now, nothing new to add.

Speaker 11 (01:08:43):
Leads the team defensives nowase, I know a lot we.

Speaker 5 (01:08:48):
Disease.

Speaker 17 (01:08:49):
What are some things that you've done for your trust
play Bill?

Speaker 16 (01:08:54):
I think he, you know, good communicator, He's good in
a open field. He's been able to handle a lot
of volume, take care of his body. It hasn't been
been perfect, but you feel like he's just you know,
some snaps. I'm sure he'd like to have back, but
there's been a it hasn't been too big for him

(01:09:15):
and he and he stayed stayed healthy.

Speaker 5 (01:09:17):
So that's the biggest thing. Mike. What are some of
the things that you've seen Spencer Radler do? Gonna meet him?
All comes out really quick.

Speaker 16 (01:09:25):
I think that they he's decisive with the football, and
I think he also was really good when he runs it.
You know, they designed some plays for him to run. Uh,
he's been good in that regard and Uh, then he's
also there's been some play extensions where you know, he's
been able to get out of there pretty quickly, and

(01:09:45):
and so I think the decisiveness is continuing to show
up and improve. And you know, they played well in
Buffalo and had you know, it was a one score game.
In the fourth quarter, they rough the punter and that
was pretty much the end of it. And then obviously
they got down last week. I think it was an

(01:10:06):
impressive job on their parts and and Kellen's job and
be down fourteen to three and come storming back and
hit a big play and then create some turnovers.

Speaker 19 (01:10:18):
Alvin Camorrow specifically, I'm looking back on this last game,
how how is.

Speaker 4 (01:10:22):
The Deacon's able to stop James Cook?

Speaker 5 (01:10:26):
And how to getting the message yourself the louder. Now
we're just worried about Alvin Kamara and Miller.

Speaker 6 (01:10:33):
Well and say, how can you build a cross up?

Speaker 16 (01:10:35):
We'll have to do it over again, and we'll have
to to work due to week to build a wall,
to set.

Speaker 5 (01:10:39):
An edge and to swarm and tackle and be able.

Speaker 16 (01:10:43):
To fit the runs up that they'll probably have in
a scheme and everything else. But you know, what you
did one week certainly doesn't guarantee what you're going to
do the next week, positively or negatively.

Speaker 5 (01:10:54):
So you know, they do a good job.

Speaker 16 (01:10:57):
They're on the ball, they have you know, runs out
of tempo, they have shots out of tempo.

Speaker 5 (01:11:03):
You know they're under center, they're in the gun and
the pistol. So that's there's a lot, a lot.

Speaker 16 (01:11:07):
To be able to get ready for formationally, so things
that we'll have to be ready for.

Speaker 18 (01:11:13):
It seems like you're it seems like to do with
the defensive touch on the wow to involve motion.

Speaker 4 (01:11:17):
Want of your therts been any kind of theme in
those and what do you have to do?

Speaker 5 (01:11:20):
Basically, I just communicate and understand it.

Speaker 16 (01:11:23):
Those are all scheme plays and that you know, that's
what we're gonna get, and we have to do a
better job in the red zone of communicating and anticipating
what that is. I don't think they're just gonna line
you know, line up and run a play. You know,
I mean there's gonna be something involved that that grabs
your eyes, it grabs your attention, you know, misdirection, you know,

(01:11:47):
I don't know what the plays are. I can just
try to explain what the concepts are gonna be on.
You know they're going to change him a little bit
each week, but you know, when you look around, that's
kind of what it is like with tidewings down out.

Speaker 6 (01:11:59):
What do you like about the captains on this team
because of them setting the standard and the communication between
coaches and the team.

Speaker 16 (01:12:07):
Yeah, I think they do a good job of relaying
the message that we try to create each week. And
I think they do a good job of bringing some
things that maybe some other players or some younger players
may have throughout the week to me, and my job
is to listen. My job is to try to make

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a decision that's best for.

Speaker 5 (01:12:30):
The team, but to try to listen to them. Not
that I'm always gonna.

Speaker 16 (01:12:34):
Do everything that you know they ask, but I do
appreciate them coming and sharing some of those thoughts from
the rest of the team.

Speaker 17 (01:12:43):
But it's only been a five game sample with a
new head coach, do you get a sense at all
holistically like cal Kellen and his staff, one of them
play games they win.

Speaker 5 (01:12:53):
Yeah, I mean I think that they want to run
the football. I think they do.

Speaker 16 (01:12:56):
I think they want to use tempo on on their terms,
which they've done a great job of. I think they
want to make you prepare for a lot, and I
think they they've got a lot of speed on the
edges and that they're that they're trying to create. But also,
you know, understand with a young quarterback that they want
to be able to try to get it out of

(01:13:17):
his hand just from a numbers wise and not sit
there and hold it. So they've been successful with that.
Try to keep it in third and third and manageable
like the.

Speaker 7 (01:13:25):
Running game at this point is like the running game
at this point is toward the bottom of the league.

Speaker 19 (01:13:30):
Twenty seventh break, wondering how you can improve on that.

Speaker 5 (01:13:34):
Obviously the passing game.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
Has been much stronger.

Speaker 16 (01:13:37):
Just keep working at it, you know, I'm with you,
We understand that, and it's got to be better, you know,
it has to be better at the line of scrimmage
at the second level, you know, and then continue to
try to finish to break some of these and we've
had some good runs.

Speaker 5 (01:13:52):
It's just the you know, not enough of them, not enough.

Speaker 16 (01:13:59):
You know, double it runs, you know, and that help
your your average. So again I think that, you know,
we got to stop talking about being one guy away
or one block away. And I think that was a
big theme from last week, and they don't have to fix.

Speaker 19 (01:14:17):
You said that, you you said that you've learned that penalties.

Speaker 20 (01:14:21):
Are not a strong indicator of wins. How did that
information change your approach to coaching that area.

Speaker 16 (01:14:27):
Well, it's it's not that that that we don't care
about penalties, right, We want to make great decisions, and
but I also understand that team fouls are ones that
happened before the snap, Like we have to be better
on you know, on hunters communicating with the official and
you know, thinking that we got you know, hoping we

(01:14:48):
got that cleaned up. We don't want to line up
off sides. We don't want to extend drives competition fouls,
and we ask them to play full tilt to the tackle.
But then there's a line there and we have to
we have to you know, we have to play by
two things. The whistle, right. I just don't understand how
a professional athlete could could assume that anybody in this

(01:15:10):
league was down and we're gonna play to the whistle,
and we're gonna play to two feet in the white,
and we we have to you know, pass rush and
not hit the quarterback in the head. Can't hit him
in the knees. And then when you know another player
has the iss two feet in the white, we can't
hit him or give the appearance you know that we're

(01:15:31):
we're hitting him. I think Schooler ran over there and
stood there, and then the same guy got tackled by
Marcus and the officials saw that, and you know, so
again you just have to understand kind of what they're
looking at.

Speaker 5 (01:15:47):
But we have to play aggressive.

Speaker 16 (01:15:49):
I think that there has to be an aggressiveness of
the way that we play, but also that comes into
the decision making and when too, to make a great decision.
And you know, it's hard for me to sit here
and fault Josh, you know from last week and there's
no whistle and running backs acting like he's gonna flip

(01:16:09):
the ball back to the quarterback. And I mean, certainly
would have liked to not had a penalty call, but
I can see it both ways.

Speaker 5 (01:16:19):
Uh just ask that they, you know, blow to whistle.

Speaker 16 (01:16:22):
And it's an easy way for us to say that
the play's over and that our efforts need to stop.

Speaker 5 (01:16:28):
And but I don't know how else to coach it.

Speaker 16 (01:16:31):
I don't know how else to coach professional players and
on defense in this league, with the type of athletes
that you know you're going against, it's it's hard to
bring them down. One guy, they keep running, they bounce
in next thing, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:16:43):
You know.

Speaker 16 (01:16:44):
So again, we'll keep coaching it. And it's not that
it's not important. It's it's important, but it's also there's
a something behind it. I'll tell you every ex player run.

Speaker 5 (01:16:57):
We gotta have Taylor track this.

Speaker 16 (01:16:59):
Every ex player running this league, there's probably a hold,
you know what I mean? Like that just that they
don't call it, that they don't miss however they don't
see or they don't feel like they should call it.
That's that's kind of what happens. And so you want
to be aggressive certainly, just not reckless.

Speaker 5 (01:17:15):
Like I do about you guys. You have said the
players and either earn their role. For the players who
are currently on the Show team or Scott.

Speaker 16 (01:17:22):
Team, what things you do to earn a row to
be with the regulars outside?

Speaker 5 (01:17:28):
Well, I think it's twofold.

Speaker 16 (01:17:29):
I think it's one based on who's in front of
them and the health of that player. Uh Two, prepare
as a starter each and every week, continue to to
improve and get recognized and you know, three take advantage
of their opportunities when it comes. And so, you know,
we have a lot of guys that are getting better
and improving in that area, and I you know, that's

(01:17:51):
that's valuable. It's valuable for us to be able to
rep against them, and also valuable, very valuable for them
to improve and get those practice reps. So hopefully when
we need them or they earn the opportunity, they'll be ready.

Speaker 5 (01:18:07):
Thank you.

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locker room right now. We just heard Mike Frame. Not
a lot of headline news, but I thought it was
very interesting. And he stuck up, stood up for Farmer,

(01:22:02):
saying that the whistle.

Speaker 4 (01:22:04):
Had for everybody, especially that one.

Speaker 2 (01:22:06):
Yeah, the whistle had not blown. And you know, his
point is, how in the NFL do you know the
play is dead unless the whistle blows? So he goes,
that's the way we coach it. You play to the whistle.

Speaker 3 (01:22:17):
So I you know, so if I'm going to take
that so, I understand me more than anyone understands bitching
about the refs frustration specifically towards the refs.

Speaker 5 (01:22:28):
Right, that's what I do.

Speaker 3 (01:22:32):
But if you're going to take that, like super literally
what he said, I wouldn't expect the penalties to stop
because if he's thinking that that's okay, like I said,
I think I said yesterday. There's an argument to be
made that that was unnecessary roughness even if the whistle
hadn't blown, you.

Speaker 4 (01:22:48):
Know, even if he was like.

Speaker 3 (01:22:50):
Helm right, I mean, he's like you clearly see he's
down and tied it up with somebody else. You don't
have to come in and light him up, do you
know what I mean? You can come in and just
sort of like fall on the pile if you think
he's still up and the whistle hasn't blown.

Speaker 4 (01:23:02):
Yeah, he came in and buried him. But well, if
that's okay, if that's how you're coaching it. Again, I'm
taking it super literally. And I know he's not coaching
it this way, but if he were coaching it that way, like, Okay,
that's a good play, don't expect the penalties to stop.

Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
But I think the other messages to the ref like
don't forget to blow the whistle.

Speaker 3 (01:23:24):
Yeah, obviously I don't have the coch I mean, I'm
going to assume he's right about that.

Speaker 4 (01:23:28):
We can't. I can't get that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:30):
A lot of people said that, like, but I don't
hear the whistle on every play?

Speaker 3 (01:23:33):
No, you almost never hear the whistle, Yeah, unless you're
there I mean maybe if you're there you can hear
the whistle.

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
But yeah, so but I thought that was interesting. That's
really the only takeaway I had. You know, everything was
pretty vanilla.

Speaker 3 (01:23:47):
Yeah, I mean I think he sort of recognizes the
running back situation, but you know he's being more more
Belichick like there more generic.

Speaker 4 (01:23:56):
Yeah, we're always looking to look a team and sure.

Speaker 2 (01:23:59):
Looking for a way to improve.

Speaker 5 (01:24:02):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:24:02):
He was asked the question that we've sort of been
talking about out a theme kind of of the day,
turning the page to the next game, and you know,
is that a challenge and you know it's like we
do that every week, you know what. So a lot
of a lot of Belichick kind of mentality there. But yeah,
just regular Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
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I hope everything's all right. Sean's in Vancouver. What's up Sean? Sean?

Speaker 3 (01:24:49):
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Speaker 5 (01:25:03):
There you go.

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And honestly, it felt a little bit better because I
think we all kind of had the same thought that
we don't know if we have a quarterback.

Speaker 22 (01:25:19):
We don't know.

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all right, we'll talk about that tomorrow. Thanks for appreciate it,
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something to him afterwards because usually those are for me.
We have kind of like you know, when you do
a lot of prempo game shows together, Fred, you kind
of get a feel for each other.

Speaker 4 (01:27:04):
Well, Mike is very subtle with those.

Speaker 2 (01:27:06):
Well, Andrew, if you promise to wear a T shirt
all over the world, we can certainly arrange for that.
So Alex, why don't you keep that email from Andrew
and we'll see what we can do for him. So
lots of emails, Josh says, some of them how to
beat New Orleans. He calls himself Wisco Glenn. Okay, I

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don't know why I called him, Josh. The Saints are
not good against the run. The Giants opened good holes
for scatter Bowl last week. Paul's right. The Gints gave
the ball away a lot and they could have dominated
possession time. Giants have good weapons, but seem to stall
in the red zone because they can't run with power
or play in a compacted field. What if the play

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what if we play five to six dbs in this game?
Make Rattler win with his arm?

Speaker 4 (01:28:01):
Okayait man, if you want to make Rattler beat you,
wouldn't you play bas defense?

Speaker 5 (01:28:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:28:08):
Take away the run right, you know, dare him to
throw right right, put it in his head. If you
do five to six DB's all the time, they're going
to try Hendre Miller at you in Alvin Kamara. Now,
I think the Patriots have been really good in run defense.
Maybe they feel comfortable stopping it with you know, less
than their their base package in terms of personnel. But

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just if you're trying to put the game in the
quarterback's hands, you want to dare him to throw. You
put big bodies out there and stop the run.

Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
Let's see Jordan wants to call the game in Buffalo
in honor Stefan's huge performance. What about the ghost of
Stefan games? Stefan comes back to haunt them. Yeah, if
you have to explain it, it doesn't work. Yeah, so
I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:29:00):
I think they just have to be really quick.

Speaker 2 (01:29:04):
Yeah, yeah, Like, and I think there.

Speaker 3 (01:29:07):
Has to be something like Harper's Muff game, Like it's
an obscure player who had one very specific gaff in
the game that turned the game.

Speaker 4 (01:29:17):
Yep, you know, this was just kind of.

Speaker 3 (01:29:20):
This was a regular foot I think that's probably the
best part of the Patriots win is that there's nothing
like that that you point to. There's not like a weird, right,
you know, fluky kind of asterisk that you're looking to
attach to the game. It was just two good teams
playing against each other, and the Patriots made the plays

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at the end of the game to win it.

Speaker 5 (01:29:42):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:29:44):
Matt and Wichita, can we make a storyline out of
nothing by noticing that Rabels seemed to give a little
extra love to Demario Davis. The report out in New
Orleans is that they are interested in trading Vets. He
meets the definition in linebackers seem to be a position
of need.

Speaker 4 (01:30:00):
Yeah, now that's a team you know.

Speaker 3 (01:30:02):
I know someone you know about the running backs and
they mentioned Camara, like New Orleans is a team that
I could absolutely see being in that market.

Speaker 4 (01:30:11):
You know, come come Halloween.

Speaker 3 (01:30:12):
You know that the trade deadlines usually I think it's
between week eight and nine, somewhere in that maybe November
first era area. That one yet to Mario Davis. You know,
he's a good player. It's been a good player for
a long time. Absolutely, I'd be interested in, as Mike says,
I'd be interested in upgrading the team and in any

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way that I feel we could.

Speaker 2 (01:30:36):
Josh is on the line. He's from Missouri. Hey Josh, Hey,
what's up?

Speaker 9 (01:30:40):
Brother? Hey? I just wanted to say, man, how does
it feel to have a number one receiver again? I
know we haven't had a receiver with back to back
one hundred yard games since Julian Edelman. So that felt
pretty good, and I wanted to see how you guys
felt about being above that red line right now, going

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the playoffs right now, and that feels great.

Speaker 2 (01:31:04):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, yes, your first point, and thanks
for the call, Josh. The luxury of having that wide
receiver one, it's it is a good thing. It's it.
It's a relief to know that, Okay, if nothing else,
you've got this playmaker in your wide receiver room that
you know, hopefully you can count on every game. It's

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a it's a big not every team has it. I
mean there are a lot of good wide receivers in
the league, but I would say, what maybe little over
half the teams have one.

Speaker 3 (01:31:39):
Top flight receivers. I mean I have to go back
and look, but yeah, I mean there are good wide
receivers in that league. Yeah, I mean kind of everybody
has one.

Speaker 5 (01:31:47):
You think.

Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
I mean we haven't, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:31:50):
I mean I'm not necessarily saying every single team, but yeah,
I mean yeah, I mean you have a guy that
that you would say, oh, he's our number one.

Speaker 2 (01:31:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:32:02):
So with a few except very few exceptions, I would
I would think. But I think he's been really good.
I think he's been better than like this past week,
certainly better than I was expecting. I didn't think there
was that kind of yards after the catch and that
kind of explosiveness with the ball in his hands. He
made a lot of guys missing that game. I wasn't
expecting those kinds of plays. In terms of the volume,

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I did expect that. I thought he would catch, you know,
somewhere between you know, five and eight passes a game,
be around one thousand yards at the end of the year,
average under ten yards to catch. Last game, this pass game,
it was a lot better than that. You know, one
hundred and forty yards and you know, play after play

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fourteen plus yards to catch. I don't know if you
can rely on that every week. You know, that's not
really realistic. But the one game when you needed him,
he absolutely delivered.

Speaker 5 (01:32:59):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:33:00):
Artist in Saint Louis wants to earn a T shirt,
so he has a trivia game. He says, for the
Mammoth of Memory, mister Paul Perrillo, Let's see if you
can get four out of six correct, he says. In
nineteen ninety six, Droup ledso led the Patriots to an
eleven and five season and their second Super Bowl appearance.
Who did the Patriots beat in the AFC Championship Game

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and what was the final score?

Speaker 4 (01:33:22):
Well, that's easy, Jacksonville twenty to.

Speaker 2 (01:33:25):
You got it?

Speaker 5 (01:33:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:33:27):
Tom Brady threw a combined six hundred and fourteen regular
and postseason touchdown passes during his twenty seasons with the
New England Patriots. Can you name the players who caught
his very first and very last touchdown pass?

Speaker 4 (01:33:40):
No, I can tell you.

Speaker 3 (01:33:41):
Terry Glenn was the first. YEP, I could not tell
you the last, but his last touchdown pass as a
pro or with the Patriots.

Speaker 2 (01:33:53):
I'm trying to.

Speaker 4 (01:33:54):
Ask, I'm gonna guess somebody with the Patriots all I'm
just gonna I'm gonna guess Edelman.

Speaker 2 (01:34:00):
That's correct. That was a guest Glenn and one against
the Chargers. Edelman in nineteen against the Dolphins.

Speaker 4 (01:34:06):
I can still I can still see Terry Glenn later
two horizontally.

Speaker 2 (01:34:10):
What offensive lineman holds the record for the most starts
in a game with the New England Patriots, Bruce Armstrong.
That's right. He started two hundred and twelve games and
that's three out of three. In twenty sixteen, Tom Brady
faced a four game suspension to start the season. When
Brady came back, he led the Patriots to a fourteen

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and two season and their fifth Super Bowl title. Who
was the first team Brady and the Patriots played coming
off that suspension? And what was the final score?

Speaker 3 (01:34:42):
I can tell you it's Cleveland, but I Cleveland's correct.
I'll tell you the final score.

Speaker 2 (01:34:45):
A lot of threes in the score thirty three to three. Oh,
thirty three to thirteen. Okay, so I'll give you three
and a half, all right. In the infamous twenty eight
three Super Bowl fifty one comeback, Tom Brady led the
Patriots on a seventy five yard thirteen play drive that
ended in their first touchdown in the third quarter, which

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would start the Patriots comeback. Who was the player to
catch that touchdown pass?

Speaker 4 (01:35:12):
James White?

Speaker 2 (01:35:13):
That's right, five yard pass, four and a half. Tom
Brady played a franchise record twenty seasons with the Newican Patriots.
There are three players tied for second most with sixteen seasons.
Can you name those three players?

Speaker 4 (01:35:30):
Three players that played sixteen seasons for the Patriots? Yep,
Steve Grogan that's one, Julius Adam two, Stanley.

Speaker 2 (01:35:39):
Morgan ooh, Matthew Slater.

Speaker 4 (01:35:42):
Oh, I should have gotten Slater. But that's typical of me.

Speaker 3 (01:35:45):
Forget the guy who just played, and remember the guys
that played fifty years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:35:49):
But you wanted four out of six. He got four
and a half, so too bad. No T shirt, Curtis.

Speaker 4 (01:35:54):
I think I should get two thirds for the last one.
I got two out of the three.

Speaker 2 (01:35:56):
That's true, so closer to five than four. So sorry, Churs,
you don't get a shirt.

Speaker 4 (01:36:02):
You're not going to give him a T shirt.

Speaker 2 (01:36:04):
Give my T shirt up to Alex and Matt if
they want to give him a T shirt, they can
give a T shirt. Good job, Alex, pending availability, we'll
get morel on it. He's back on the phone and
in his truck. It's Eldred in North Carolina. What's up, Eldred? Hey,
that's all y'all doing? All right?

Speaker 22 (01:36:25):
Yes, Sorr, I hit the button instead of hitting the
hitting a hitting the other thing.

Speaker 2 (01:36:28):
On my head stick so I could not toe.

Speaker 22 (01:36:30):
Hey, the name of the game should be d free beefine.

Speaker 4 (01:36:35):
He hated thigs revenge game.

Speaker 3 (01:36:37):
That would work, You know, short, sweet, everybody knows exactly
what you're talking about that would that would have that
would have potential?

Speaker 14 (01:36:44):
You think?

Speaker 5 (01:36:45):
So?

Speaker 22 (01:36:45):
Okay, Uh, they talking about half back serve somebody to
the practice squad? Do you know anything about just uh whatever?

Speaker 5 (01:36:55):
Guy?

Speaker 22 (01:36:55):
I think it's abn.

Speaker 3 (01:36:57):
Yeah, Jay or the new running back on the Corbyn
something on the practice squad. He's got a little he's
got a little experience. He's been in the league. Not
really anything extensive though, but he's been. I think he's
been with three different teams. I think he played like
six games for the Giants or something like that.

Speaker 7 (01:37:19):
Okay, I just wonder.

Speaker 5 (01:37:21):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 22 (01:37:23):
I hope, like I said, I hope we get uh
a J.

Speaker 5 (01:37:25):
A J.

Speaker 12 (01:37:26):
Brown, Cause, like I said, anybody keeps talking about it,
but he won't out.

Speaker 22 (01:37:30):
But I guess I haven't heard it yet though, right.

Speaker 11 (01:37:34):
Especially No, I.

Speaker 3 (01:37:35):
Mean we we've heard about A. J. Brown tweeting and
whatnot after games. I just don't see the Eagles trading him.
Like the Eagles are a Super Bowl contender. I don't
see them. Yeah, I don't see them trading.

Speaker 22 (01:37:48):
I'm not getting used right, He's not getting used right.

Speaker 4 (01:37:50):
Well, he gets he gets used plenty just.

Speaker 20 (01:37:52):
Running running, But like like the game they should have beat.

Speaker 22 (01:37:56):
They should have won that game. Sunday Herts just go
through him twice.

Speaker 2 (01:37:59):
He's a wild Yeah it was downfield, down that middle one.

Speaker 5 (01:38:03):
Yeah, downfield. Yeah, that would have won the game.

Speaker 11 (01:38:06):
Yeah, all right, my people, all.

Speaker 2 (01:38:07):
Right, thanks Eldred. I meant to as Eldred where his
name came from. That's a good name, Eldred. Yeah. You
don't hear a lot of people with the name Eldred,
but when you grow up an adult, like, it's a
proper name to be called Eldred. It's a very southern name, Eldred,
very southern name. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:38:29):
Well he's a Southern dude.

Speaker 2 (01:38:30):
Ivan's in California.

Speaker 22 (01:38:34):
Hey, gentlemen, how you doing today?

Speaker 5 (01:38:35):
Good, good, quick football thing.

Speaker 22 (01:38:39):
But before I do that, I do want to give
you some flowers. I want to do as a Pats
fan and a little bit more than a casual one.
I like to geek out on all the different behind
the scenes and what you guys do, as far as
the interviews the coaches, the kind of the fun questions
you ask the players, get to see their personalities. I
think you don't do really a great job. So I

(01:39:00):
appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (01:39:01):
Thank you that I'll pass it along.

Speaker 22 (01:39:03):
And absolutely, and then as far as the football thing,
digs from me from where I stand, like the way
Digs is right now, a healthy Digs, which is honestly
a modern miracle. He's the number one. So for me,
I think we're still you know, we're still another draft
away in a free agent class of really building the

(01:39:24):
team the way we wanted to. So I want to
hold onto the assets unless you know, somebody blows us away.
I think we're just fine with I mean, he's talking
about AJ Brown. I just think what it's going to
cost to get him, we would be best serves to hold.

Speaker 1 (01:39:38):
On to it.

Speaker 22 (01:39:38):
So I will, with that said, I will get off
line and go past.

Speaker 2 (01:39:43):
All right, thanks, Ivan, appreciate it. He's saying, stay pat.

Speaker 4 (01:39:47):
Yeah, I would.

Speaker 3 (01:39:48):
I mean, if you could get AJ Brown, I think
you have the makings of a very dangerous offense. But
I mean I'm not I'm not saying I would do
whatever it takes to get AJ Brown. I mean it
would be a little bit. It would cause me to
hesitate a little bit based on the fact that this

(01:40:09):
is a guy who was in the midst of a
Super Bowl run last year and was unhappy at times
and certainly is on the reigning Super Bowl champ who's
poised to make another run and seemingly unhappy again.

Speaker 23 (01:40:21):
That would cause me to hesitate a little bit. Yep,
how would you feel about it, Freddy? I would agree,
I would agree, you know, I would hesitate.

Speaker 4 (01:40:32):
Yeah, now, I would do it. I think he's young enough.

Speaker 3 (01:40:37):
That you know, I wouldn't worry, like, well, I'm just
going to get him at the end of his career
and he's going to be you know, he could fall off.
I think he's still in his prime. I mean, I
don't think it would cost that much. Yeah, I don't
think it would.

Speaker 4 (01:40:51):
Cost you at first. I think you could probably get
him for a second.

Speaker 2 (01:40:54):
But you know Ivan's point. You know, they're a free
agent class in the draft class away. You know, they
really need to there's still pieces that they need to
build here. And is that say, like that one of.

Speaker 3 (01:41:07):
The pieces that they need to build with. That's what
I'm saying, that he would be a piece, like it's
not a thirty four year old receiver.

Speaker 4 (01:41:12):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (01:41:13):
So you have to sign him?

Speaker 3 (01:41:14):
What's signed? Yeah, he's under contract. He's not unhappy with
his contract. He's unhappy with his role. Okay, he wants
the ball, so second round's worth it. I mean, for me,
maybe you couldn't get him for a second rounder. He
went for a first. I mean he went for first,
like with the when he went from Tennessee to Philadelphia.
So I mean I think he's a little older now.

Speaker 2 (01:41:35):
Yeah, maybe's not worth as much.

Speaker 4 (01:41:38):
Just a little bit exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:41:39):
So yeah, yeah, Austin and Oklahoma rights in. I know
there's been talk of Drake getting the MVP if he
keeps playing like he's been, but I think an even
more likely scenario is Vrabel getting the second coach his
second Coach of the Year award. Do you think we
might actually have both the MVP and the Coach of
the Year. I mean, it's possible. So do you think

(01:42:04):
the Colts the Colts coach might be in the running too?

Speaker 4 (01:42:06):
There's a million. Yes, you think of like your favorite
Baker Mayfield m v P four game winning drives, Yeah, no,
I four and one.

Speaker 3 (01:42:18):
He should be considered four last second. So he did
what Drake may did four times?

Speaker 2 (01:42:22):
Yeah this year, yep.

Speaker 4 (01:42:24):
Like I am as excited about Drake may I will
go back to this.

Speaker 3 (01:42:30):
I'm the one that was very stubbornly saying I would
still take him over Jayden Daniels last year when he
hadn't really done a thing. I am enamored with the
skill set. But let's sort of watch him play a
little bit. He had he did it once. I am
very confident in Drake may But you know, m.

Speaker 4 (01:42:52):
VP of the league. Do you think he's been the
MVP of the league right now yet?

Speaker 5 (01:42:56):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:42:56):
Not yet, not yet.

Speaker 3 (01:42:57):
But do you start do you start doing what you
did in second half on a weekly basis?

Speaker 2 (01:43:03):
If he keeps playing the you know, if there's a
big if.

Speaker 4 (01:43:06):
And I'm not criticizing.

Speaker 2 (01:43:08):
And the Patriots win, then he will be in the
in the running. But like you said, Mayfield, Now, think
about Mayfield. Though, as much as I love him, I
think he's the league's better with him in it. He
is streaky, So right now he's on a heater. Yeah,
and then let's see what happened.

Speaker 4 (01:43:25):
You know who else is streaky?

Speaker 2 (01:43:26):
Who's that break?

Speaker 5 (01:43:27):
May Well?

Speaker 2 (01:43:28):
I don't think he's.

Speaker 4 (01:43:29):
Right now he's on a heater.

Speaker 2 (01:43:30):
Yeah, but I don't think he's been around long enough
to be cult street.

Speaker 3 (01:43:32):
No, I know, but we're two games removed from him
turning the ball over twice and in a game that
they lost to the Steelers. They had no business losing,
right So, and you know this brings me to a point.
I mentioned this to you off the air, Like again,
the euphoria or what happens Sunday night is overwhelming all

(01:43:54):
of our thoughts about the game. Myself included I am
like I picked up the upset, the upset came through.
I'm really excited about it. So just go to the
last drive and just how quickly and how small, like
the margin for error is so razor thin. The first
play gets blown up. They come in with immediate pressure.

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They're dragging Drake made of the ground, and as he's
falling down, he desperately just throws a pass to Diggs
for twelve yards. Evan said yesterday there was a guy
right there who actually had his back turned.

Speaker 4 (01:44:29):
Let's just say he turns around and picks it off. Yeah,
you know what that play is.

Speaker 3 (01:44:33):
That's the play he made against Pittsburgh in a fourteen
to fourteen game on the game winning drive in the
fourth quarter when he's getting sacked and falling down and
desperately tries to flip it out. Only the Steeler guy
knocked it out of his hands when he tried to
do that, and it was a fumble. Right, That's how
small the margin is.

Speaker 2 (01:44:50):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:44:51):
Like, you make more plays like the one he did
Sunday night, and you become an MVP candidate. You make
more plays like he did against Pittsburgh and you're streaky, right.

Speaker 4 (01:45:02):
You know what I'm saying. You know it's a very
fine line.

Speaker 2 (01:45:04):
Yep. Hector Castellanos from Pennsylvania writes, and just want to
say I agree with you, Paul about what you said yesterday.
We have to give props to New England and how
they beat the Bills, and not that the Bills lost
because they gave it away. When the Patriots played the Steelers,
that is a game where you lose because he gave
it away. The Patriots dominated that game but gave it

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away due to turnovers.

Speaker 3 (01:45:28):
I's I were Pittsburgh, I wouldn't be given. I wouldn't
be doing that either, ye, Like, I think there were
a lot of similarities with those two games from the
other I don't care about the other team.

Speaker 4 (01:45:35):
I only care about my team.

Speaker 2 (01:45:37):
That is not what happened in this game. The bill
Stadium was rocking. The fans were pumped, and the Patriots
came in and played a game where it was a
fight in the Bill's hometown. They made the Bills play
in a way they didn't want to give credit where
credit is due. I loved it, Paul, you were going
off about it, and stay pumped up.

Speaker 3 (01:45:53):
I give all the credits to the Patriots, Yes, but
the Bills did what the Patriots did against Pittsburgh, like
eleven penalties, three turnovers, like they've only themselves to blame
for losing, but the Patriots like like in other words,
I didn't take away all the credit for Pittsburgh for
forcing some of those turnovers, and I'm not taking the

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credit away from the Patriots for making Buffalo play like that.
Like holding calls sometimes are the result of you being
better than the guy who's trying to block you, and
they get back to back holding calls on consecutive drives
in the first half of the game to set up
first and seventeen's.

Speaker 4 (01:46:28):
The Patriots did something to create that. Do you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:46:31):
What I'm saying, I'm not taking the credit away from
the Patriots, and I'm also not taking the credit away
from Pittsburgh in week two oh three or whatever it was.

Speaker 2 (01:46:37):
Yep, Bill and San Diego. I keep hearing that digs
past two games are the first consecutive one hundred plus
yard games by wide receivers in the settlement.

Speaker 4 (01:46:48):
I was waiting for someone to bring this.

Speaker 2 (01:46:49):
Lody had one hundred plus yards in the last game
of twenty four in the first game of this season.

Speaker 4 (01:46:53):
That is correct.

Speaker 2 (01:46:54):
There are no games played between them, so those are
consecutive games. Is there a reason no one is mentioning this? Well,
kind of because it's the whole off season separating.

Speaker 4 (01:47:03):
Yeah, it is different.

Speaker 2 (01:47:04):
Look is the locker room?

Speaker 22 (01:47:07):
What was the mood where the players friendly to that?

Speaker 4 (01:47:10):
None of them look like Deavin Henry.

Speaker 2 (01:47:12):
Hey, Mike, what was it like in the locker.

Speaker 5 (01:47:16):
Room, Mike?

Speaker 2 (01:47:19):
What was it like in the All right, Mike, what
was it like.

Speaker 1 (01:47:28):
You with the locker is?

Speaker 4 (01:47:29):
He's still sweating. He's still sweating.

Speaker 7 (01:47:31):
Now, he's a nice said, come on, a Freddy sweater
on today, little sweater jacket, cardigan.

Speaker 8 (01:47:36):
Perhaps nice, thanks for noticing.

Speaker 7 (01:47:39):
But he's you know, preaching, this is a good team
and we're going against and went right down the list
and yeah, they might be this is the record, but
you know, these are a good team and you know,
anybody can win any week, and preaching that message of
of you know, trying not to take these guys lightly
another chance.

Speaker 2 (01:47:54):
The crowd around them, huge, huge crowd, huge, huge crowd,
jostling and jostling fights. No, not not that happens folks
once in a.

Speaker 1 (01:48:03):
While, it does. No.

Speaker 7 (01:48:04):
So far, it's been really complimentary from the media. You know,
me holding people's mics, others holding my mics, you know,
working as a team to get collaborative, collaborative.

Speaker 4 (01:48:11):
It's nice to collaborating.

Speaker 5 (01:48:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:48:15):
Uh, and you know, shout out Mac Hollins like it's
a little tough when the spillover comes next to like
their lockers and Matt Collins is very understanding kind of Mike.

Speaker 8 (01:48:23):
Is like, you know, thanks Mac for Lennon, Oh, no problem,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:48:25):
So he was very gracious about it.

Speaker 22 (01:48:27):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (01:48:27):
But the the other interview that was interesting was Treel Jennings,
who had a sizeable crowd around him and locker right
next to Antonio. Gibson talked about how they're they're really
close and that you know, Gibson kind of said, this
is your time now, so signs pointing at least in
the locker room, that Terrell Jennings is gonna get some
kind of opportunity.

Speaker 1 (01:48:44):
I'm not sure exactly what that means.

Speaker 4 (01:48:46):
I think someone is because I can't imagine they're going
to go into a game with two running backs.

Speaker 7 (01:48:49):
Yeah so he no, just a we haven't talked to
him much. I mean, he's a practice squad guy, so usually.

Speaker 2 (01:48:55):
Which is Jennings return kicks?

Speaker 7 (01:48:56):
Uh yeah, yeah, a little bit, he said, he's he said,
you know, it's a little bit like like on the
ball as well, So you know, seems excited for his
opportunity and has been making the most out of his
you know, behind the scenes development. Feels like he's really
grown over the last month. So I think that's that's
gonna be interesting one. And then Christian Z also was
the last guy we talked to, and you know, quiet,
I'm gonna shut down everybody, not it's not a time

(01:49:21):
to say, but uh but confident and you know, looking
at some of their explosive players and so our weekly.

Speaker 2 (01:49:27):
I on Evan, where and who was he talking about.

Speaker 7 (01:49:31):
Marcus Jones and Marcus Jones Yeah, yeah, I saw him
talking March and I saw him booty and I also heard.

Speaker 1 (01:49:36):
Him like mentioned like and you just knew how to
get down on that way.

Speaker 7 (01:49:39):
You know, I keep talking about getting down, which we've
talked about. Was you know, really heads up play there.
It's catch the ball on the sidelines and quickly get
down and keep the clock running.

Speaker 4 (01:49:49):
So Evan was another very underrated play.

Speaker 2 (01:49:51):
Yeah, doing his digging with some of the There was
another shout out by Vrabel to Taylor Kyle's in his
OH today today, So Evan reaction and I didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:50:02):
Realize it yet.

Speaker 8 (01:50:02):
We'll have to check in with him.

Speaker 7 (01:50:04):
Hopefully he's not you know, grousing about it or feeling bad.
But Tailor Kyles was in there. He was, you know,
asking questions, jumping in, asking scheme things.

Speaker 8 (01:50:10):
Love that nature.

Speaker 7 (01:50:11):
So he's flying high right now and he's getting ready
to get sapped up to the scouting department.

Speaker 1 (01:50:15):
The mood good, I mean, the energetic media crowd as
there always.

Speaker 7 (01:50:19):
Is on Wednesday, it's always the busiest day. And like
I said, this Diggs has become a weekly occurrence. So
everybody goes right to him right off the top. And
you know when he's a good he's a good interview.
He doesn't some guys are I mean, I look at
good as some guys who give you one sentence that
tells you everything you need to hear and don't really
meander on into sending more and more.

Speaker 2 (01:50:38):
And more from pr You think that's good, right, right.

Speaker 7 (01:50:40):
But but Diggs, I think is a great balance of
he's not clipped with his answers, but he's also doesn't
get himself into telling stories.

Speaker 2 (01:50:48):
And now it's rainy out today, it's very inclement. Whether
ye was it muggy it was.

Speaker 1 (01:50:54):
It was actually was very stude observation of you to
the point where he's the city.

Speaker 7 (01:51:00):
Our wonderful producer that I was in there with. She's like, man,
it's kind of hot in here right now. And she's
from Californa, And I said, wow, that's you know, my
wife's from California. Usually after October you don't hear her
say it's too hot anywhere.

Speaker 4 (01:51:11):
She's cold the whole time.

Speaker 7 (01:51:12):
So but we did, we did comment it was a
little bit muggy. And now they're going out to the bubble,
so I look at a brief walk outside, cool down,
and then back in.

Speaker 2 (01:51:19):
Well, this will be the last year during the week
that you'll be conducting interviews in that locker room because
next year they'll have their new training facility with their
new state of the art custom.

Speaker 3 (01:51:31):
Locker room, so complicate things. The HVAC will be much
better in that new building.

Speaker 7 (01:51:39):
Yeah, yeah, no, it sounds sounds curious what that's all like.
But but yeah, I know, it's just kind of cool
seeing Drake. You know, like you have like these check
ins with him and you see him in the locker
room and he's just like an average dude you don't
really like thinking. You know, now he's coming off a
huge game and it's like, wow, right, this kid's but
he gets a moji.

Speaker 2 (01:51:57):
Obviously, he goes to the podium every week. Yeah, that's
his event ability. But do people approach him a little bit?

Speaker 1 (01:52:03):
Yeah, sure, a little bit here and there. I mean
I see a lot and down like having and be.

Speaker 7 (01:52:06):
Like, you know, I just got a quick question about
the cover two hole shot, you know, like those kind
of things. But he's always kind of got in year
out for the different conversations that are going on, and
you know he'll shut hey yeah, you know, chiming and stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:52:18):
Same thing with Will Campbell.

Speaker 8 (01:52:19):
I noticed Will Campbell this is two weeks in a row.

Speaker 1 (01:52:21):
We've all been around Steph Diggs, were all clamped, you know,
really in tight.

Speaker 8 (01:52:25):
And then you just see Will Campbell kind of walk over.

Speaker 1 (01:52:27):
Last week he was like, what's up, unk, and then
this week he just kind of.

Speaker 7 (01:52:30):
Give We heard from him recently, Will Campbell, No, not really,
not really A couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 3 (01:52:35):
A couple of weeks ago, I seemed to I mean,
I'm not in the locker room every day, so I
don't know a couple of weeks ago, but I seemed
like I felt like we've heard from him on a
regular basis.

Speaker 4 (01:52:45):
Why I think I came in, Uh, those guys have
been good.

Speaker 3 (01:52:47):
The two kids have done a good you know, a
good enough job on that left side. That's that's very promising.

Speaker 7 (01:52:53):
Yeah, yeah, No, I really liked Will Campbell we heard
from I think it was week two that we last
talked to him in the locker room. Usually he's kind
of getting ready and get it now. I mean, Robert
Spleene's like walking out right as we're walking in. He's
an early practice guy. But now I Will Campbell's along
the lines of nice short cliped answers direct, like we
just got to go out there and do our job,
you know, like those kind of thing dominant.

Speaker 2 (01:53:14):
I want to dominate you bad so love it.

Speaker 7 (01:53:17):
Good, good atmosphere, good mojo around the team right now,
and now you just got to keep it going down
there in New Orleans where he says, you said for
they lost two Super Bowls and won one super Bowl
down there in New Orleans.

Speaker 8 (01:53:28):
A lot of Patriots history down there, and that's.

Speaker 2 (01:53:30):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 3 (01:53:31):
I always think it'd be a cool thing for you
to do. Well, you're not going to be there, but
maybe for our.

Speaker 2 (01:53:36):
Content team to do, like whether it was Saturday or
Sunday morning, like early, go out on that field and
stand at the spots where all these great plays happened
for us in that place. You know where vinetary kick,
where ty Law had the interception, where Patton's touchdown, Yeah,
where McGinnis had a sack or you know.

Speaker 8 (01:53:55):
All those something did he do anything in that anything special?

Speaker 3 (01:54:00):
Through two touchdown passes in the first quarter to give
them the league? But that game did not end well, right, just.

Speaker 7 (01:54:05):
Pretending yeah, we're not going to talk about ninety six
And this was where we kicked that experience against the
Bay of to day when we were talking about some
of this stuff, was like, oh yeah, like one in two, like.

Speaker 4 (01:54:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, not great, Yeah, not great. I mean
the rest of the league should have our problems. We're
only one in two in super Bowls that.

Speaker 6 (01:54:25):
Were playing at one play, right, right, We've had so many.

Speaker 7 (01:54:28):
It was random, though, to go to three super Bowls,
I mean, nineteen eighty five, nineteen ninety six, two thousand
and one with onlike whatever. That is like a sixteen
year period, and all three of the super Bowls we
went to just happened. And I know back then it
was only like what.

Speaker 4 (01:54:39):
Three spots, Well, New Orleans was a regular rotation.

Speaker 2 (01:54:42):
Yeah, yeah and now yeah. So also, I would say
that that venue is the site of the greatest super
Bowl halftime event ever, which was you two oh yeah
sure in two thousand and one.

Speaker 4 (01:54:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:54:57):
I don't think anything's come close since, uh, and nothing
was even close before that. Despite what every anybody has
to say about Katie Perry or anything else, that was
the greatest halftime super Bowl act.

Speaker 1 (01:55:11):
And it's a yeah that that that kind of country unity.

Speaker 2 (01:55:15):
Tell me I'm wrong, tell me I'm wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:55:18):
I just think it's an asterisk. Well, I think might
do so when the Whalers could have played based on
the no no no, but based on where the country was.

Speaker 2 (01:55:28):
You know, like the way it was presented and opening
up the and having the flag. It was just yes,
the circumstances, but that always that's part of it.

Speaker 3 (01:55:36):
Yeah, I just thought that it had It's just a
it's a personal thing. I get what Fred's saying, and
I know you two is a popular but I don't
like you too. So like but with the whole ceremony,
the whole but production through the roof, unbelievable, the banners
when they came down with the name victims, names like
it was unbelievably powerful. I wouldn't ever say anything other

(01:55:57):
than what Fred just said, I just you two is
not my thing.

Speaker 2 (01:56:00):
And then you know, like Whitney Houston when she sang
a Star Spangled band, like, what were the circumstances was there?

Speaker 22 (01:56:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:56:07):
I mean again, circumstances made it. You felt more patriotic
at that moment. But like her present day, like unmatched,
nothing's come close.

Speaker 4 (01:56:17):
I don't think it's a tremendous rendition.

Speaker 1 (01:56:20):
I mean not many of those stand out in memory.

Speaker 4 (01:56:22):
I mean, she could blow it is funny that I
can't believe you just said that. It is sort of.

Speaker 3 (01:56:31):
I guess it's a great coincidence that you haven't mean
as much as I don't really care for you two,
you two is an iconic band, and you know, Whitney Houston.
I mean, there are a few people on the planet
who have ever sung that song the way she can,
you know, or could rest in peace that they were
lined up for that.

Speaker 5 (01:56:50):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:56:50):
I don't know if.

Speaker 3 (01:56:52):
Like how when that all like the timing of all
that stuff came down, but you had iconic people for
a very specific time in the country, you know, yeah,
like it would have would it have been less if
it was like some kind of no name singing the
national anthem.

Speaker 4 (01:57:07):
That was like a why by Night?

Speaker 5 (01:57:10):
You know?

Speaker 7 (01:57:10):
Yeah, I mean she, yeah, She's just special the way
she could crush it, And I mean, I don't know, it.

Speaker 1 (01:57:16):
Was just the whole thing. It just felt like the atmosphere,
you know, and like same thing with two thousand and one.

Speaker 2 (01:57:21):
Yep, all right, well listen little trip down New Orleans
memory Lane. We will be back tomorrow with another edition
of Patriots Unfiltered. We'll have picks any preview Paul how
do we do? I didn't have a good feeling even
last week for my picks. I didn't feel good about it.

Speaker 3 (01:57:38):
Just Sam Paul's making a little bit of her Oh
I gotta retire, much like the Bills.

Speaker 2 (01:57:43):
Were starting to hear footsteps.

Speaker 5 (01:57:46):
Not for me.

Speaker 4 (01:57:46):
Much like the Bills, I had a long way to go.

Speaker 2 (01:57:50):
All right, well, we will see it tomorrow. Thanks for
listening today. Hey, this is Alex.

Speaker 1 (01:57:58):
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